[videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews

2009-01-11 Thread liza jean
thanks for the address, jay.

guess what - we are both in southwest michigan!


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean dared...@... 
wrote:

 your email address is not available and your websites don't have a 
 contact page - unless i have to have an account with you . . .
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9disc@ wrote:
 
  Liza Jean,
  I guess the profit sharing could work both ways.
  
  As a production company, you are killing yourself with the  
  presentation of your site. It just doesn't look serious. (just 
 being  
  frank here...).
  
  I think I could help you with the presentation of dyna-flix.com.  
  There is no reason for your site to not look incredible. You've 
 got  
  all that scantily clad talent, and it's just sitting there in 
the  
  middle of a white page. If you had a better layout and design, 
and  
  asked people to cruise around and check things out I bet you'd 
be  
  doing much better.
  
  Please take a look in my signature for examples of my work.
  
  If you are interested, give me a shout privately.
  
  That goes for anyone else too.
  
  peace,
  Ron Watson
  http://k9disc.com
  http://pawsitivevybe.com
  http://rescuedogstv.com
  http://k9athlete.com
  
  
  On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:14 AM, liza jean wrote:
  
   there are two of us at dyna-flix.com and after a year and a 
half 
 of
   hard work and 50 fifteen minute chapters on the market as $5
   downloads or 3 on a DVD for $20 we were up to $100 a day in 
sales.
   average. down a little with all the fear out there about money.
  
   most pay sites in our niche sell subscriptions. we prefer
   individual sales with active feedback from our customers thru a
   guestbook and a yahoo group. we tend to get our money back for 
 each
   chapter in the first 48 hours we have it on the market. so we 
own
   our library free and clear. but we don't own much else but a 
pole
   barn.
  
   we currently run advert free on blip as our 150 or so clips 
there 
 are
   nothing more than commercials for our work - getting some 1200 
 views
   a day. but once we finish the toned down (ever so slightly) set 
 of 6
   shows for australian broadcast we might park them on blip and 
 troll
   for a sponsor.
  
   we had invited a third artist into this project. he helped us 
get 
 up
   and running but dropped out. we'd take him back in a heartbeat, 
 but
   he can't wait for the money like we can.
  
   mind you during this year and a half we have been deleted from
   youtube some dozen times in spite of millions of channel views 
 with
   no complaints. seems it might be industrial sabotage of some 
 sort -
   one is likely to find hot competion in a well funded niche.
  
   this year i hope to add ringtones and wallpapers to our product 
 line,
   see about getting into the i-tunes store, and sacrifice 40% of 
the
   sale price to sell some more of our commercials on clips4sale.
  
   we are maybe getting close 1000 true fans level where we will
   venture into the exciting world of profit.
  
   the above is offered in hopes it will help someone else believe 
in
   themselves enough to try.
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9disc@ 
wrote:
   
I don't care about people doing this for me, it's not about 
dog
sports. It's not about me. My stuff was only an example.
   
This is about the concept of profit sharing with producers and
supplementing income of video producers and giving much needed
   help
to community developers.
   
It's the idea that I'm pushing, I don't want to push anybody 
 into
doing anything for me, but I do think this idea has merit and 
 am a
bit confused about the lack of interest on the list here.
   
I hate this kind of communication, email lists, it's so easy 
to 
 get
   a
mixed message.
   
I do like the latter part of your post, Jay, and think you 
are 
 on
   it.
   
I don't think Rosenbaum's piece was very groundbreaking 
either,
   other
than the fact that it was in print (large blog) and it 
 reinforced
what I've believed and have been in the process of doing for a
   couple
years now. And it did so with a little bit of anecdotal 
evidence
   and
experience.
   
I'm not used to seeing my thoughts and ideas in media until
   several
years after they develop.
   
You are right about the passionate hobbyist supporting their
community, but I think it goes further than that. I think 
we're
   all
about to realize just how important community is. We've been
   having
our eyes opened it here Michigan for a few years now and as 
the
economy takes it's final spins around the toilet bowl we're 
all
   going
to get a look at how worthless our lives as consumers feeding 
an
economy have become and how damaging it was to our society.
   
We're all going to want to belong to and we're all going to 
 *need*
   to
belong to something in the near future.
   
I 

[videoblogging] Re: Really Great Article on Media Trends and the Curation Economy

2009-01-11 Thread duckpondpotter
Jeffrey,

There was an error in the URL you provided for the article.  The actual
link is:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-rosenbaum/5-trends-that-will-change_\
b_155119.html

Nick Friedman
www.DUCKPONDtv.blogspot.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean dared...@... wrote:

 thanx for the article.  so here's a new year resolution for we at
 dyna-flix.com - get on a lot more lists.


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor
 thejeffreytaylor@ wrote:
 
  All of you folks out there wanting to make money off of web-based
 video,
  take a look at Steve Rosenbaum's article here. His #1 prediction is
 that the
  Curation Economy will boom in 2009. Who are the curators? Anyone.
 I just
  wish the money-holders weren't so damn slow on the uptake. Imagine
 what
  would be possible if poeple got this 3 or 4 years ago?
 
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-rosenbaum/5-trends-that-will-
 change_b_155119.html
 
  --
  Jeffrey Taylor
  912 Cole St, #349
  San Francisco, CA  94117
  USA
  Mobile: +14157281264
  Fax: +33177722734
  http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
  http://organicconversations.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Really Great Article on Media Trends and the Curation Economy

2009-01-11 Thread Milt Lee
That article was excellent.  I've been contemplating a technology that 
would make all this happen much sooner.  Suppose (and I'm sure many 
people have) that you had a system where folks could give you a few 
cents every time they looked at a video. 

Let's say you have a site with 10 videos that anybody can watch, and 
then you post 20 or 30 or 100 more that it costs anywhere from 1 cent 
to 10 cents ( or more) for people to watch.  And on your site you have 
a little button that takes folks to another site where they buy 
credits  - $ 5.00 or $ 10.00 at a time.  Then they come back to your 
site, and click on a video that they want to watch, that costs 2 
cents.  They watch it and they are happy, and you've made two cents.

Now when you reach a certain threshold - say $ 10.00, the Flick Bank 
deposits the money in your paypal account.  You can let it gather if 
want.  (Maybe the Flick bank pays interest??)

The way this starts is that somebody puts together the Flick Kicks 
Bank, and starts signing up artists.  Then Flick Kicks starts 
promoting the idea that people should get paid for their work.

The problem that has held this back - that has stopped this process of  
mini-micro payments is that up until now, merchant account or Paypal, 
have charged $ .30 a transaction plus 2.7%.  With this new system, 
Flicks has to pay for the transaction - but only once.  So even though 
$ 5.00 represents 200-250 transactions, there's only one charge at the 
beginning and one that the artist pays, when they get their money.

Anybody want to help me build this?
Milt



[videoblogging] super cheap Xacti video cam on Amazon

2009-01-11 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Hey all
I love my Xacti E1, and Amazon has a really good deal on the E2 today:

http://icanhaz.com/xacticam

In case you are looking for something like this. Had fun with mine on the
waterslides the other week. (they are waterproof)


Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Really Great Article on Media Trends and the Curation Economy

2009-01-11 Thread Jay dedman
 Let's say you have a site with 10 videos that anybody can watch, and
 then you post 20 or 30 or 100 more that it costs anywhere from 1 cent
 to 10 cents ( or more) for people to watch. And on your site you have
 a little button that takes folks to another site where they buy
 credits - $ 5.00 or $ 10.00 at a time. Then they come back to your
 site, and click on a video that they want to watch, that costs 2
 cents. They watch it and they are happy, and you've made two cents.

Looks like it's time to revisit the Micropayments debate.
Clay Shirky in 2000:
http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2000/12/19/micropayments.html
Clay Shirky in 2003: http://www.shirky.com/writings/fame_vs_fortune.html
Scout McCloud rebuttal:
http://www.scottmccloud.com/home/essays/2003-09-micros/micros.html

Our very own Nathan Frietas even made a great site that allowed you to
charge for downloads: http://cruxy.com/
I know he intimately understands shaving pennies fromm online transaction fees.

Jay



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http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
I've got to move my contact us from the homepage menus.

You're not the first to miss them.

peace,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:15 AM, liza jean wrote:

 thanks for the address, jay.

 guess what - we are both in southwest michigan!

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, liza jean dared...@...
 wrote:
 
  your email address is not available and your websites don't have a
  contact page - unless i have to have an account with you . . .
 
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9disc@ wrote:
  
   Liza Jean,
   I guess the profit sharing could work both ways.
  
   As a production company, you are killing yourself with the
   presentation of your site. It just doesn't look serious. (just
  being
   frank here...).
  
   I think I could help you with the presentation of dyna-flix.com.
   There is no reason for your site to not look incredible. You've
  got
   all that scantily clad talent, and it's just sitting there in
 the
   middle of a white page. If you had a better layout and design,
 and
   asked people to cruise around and check things out I bet you'd
 be
   doing much better.
  
   Please take a look in my signature for examples of my work.
  
   If you are interested, give me a shout privately.
  
   That goes for anyone else too.
  
   peace,
   Ron Watson
   http://k9disc.com
   http://pawsitivevybe.com
   http://rescuedogstv.com
   http://k9athlete.com
  
  
   On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:14 AM, liza jean wrote:
  
there are two of us at dyna-flix.com and after a year and a
 half
  of
hard work and 50 fifteen minute chapters on the market as $5
downloads or 3 on a DVD for $20 we were up to $100 a day in
 sales.
average. down a little with all the fear out there about money.
   
most pay sites in our niche sell subscriptions. we prefer
individual sales with active feedback from our customers thru a
guestbook and a yahoo group. we tend to get our money back for
  each
chapter in the first 48 hours we have it on the market. so we
 own
our library free and clear. but we don't own much else but a
 pole
barn.
   
we currently run advert free on blip as our 150 or so clips
 there
  are
nothing more than commercials for our work - getting some 1200
  views
a day. but once we finish the toned down (ever so slightly) set
  of 6
shows for australian broadcast we might park them on blip and
  troll
for a sponsor.
   
we had invited a third artist into this project. he helped us
 get
  up
and running but dropped out. we'd take him back in a heartbeat,
  but
he can't wait for the money like we can.
   
mind you during this year and a half we have been deleted from
youtube some dozen times in spite of millions of channel views
  with
no complaints. seems it might be industrial sabotage of some
  sort -
one is likely to find hot competion in a well funded niche.
   
this year i hope to add ringtones and wallpapers to our product
  line,
see about getting into the i-tunes store, and sacrifice 40% of
 the
sale price to sell some more of our commercials on clips4sale.
   
we are maybe getting close 1000 true fans level where we will
venture into the exciting world of profit.
   
the above is offered in hopes it will help someone else believe
 in
themselves enough to try.
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9disc@
 wrote:

 I don't care about people doing this for me, it's not about
 dog
 sports. It's not about me. My stuff was only an example.

 This is about the concept of profit sharing with producers and
 supplementing income of video producers and giving much needed
help
 to community developers.

 It's the idea that I'm pushing, I don't want to push anybody
  into
 doing anything for me, but I do think this idea has merit and
  am a
 bit confused about the lack of interest on the list here.

 I hate this kind of communication, email lists, it's so easy
 to
  get
a
 mixed message.

 I do like the latter part of your post, Jay, and think you
 are
  on
it.

 I don't think Rosenbaum's piece was very groundbreaking
 either,
other
 than the fact that it was in print (large blog) and it
  reinforced
 what I've believed and have been in the process of doing for a
couple
 years now. And it did so with a little bit of anecdotal
 evidence
and
 experience.

 I'm not used to seeing my thoughts and ideas in media until
several
 years after they develop.

 You are right about the passionate hobbyist supporting their
 community, but I think it goes further than that. I think
 we're
all
 about to realize just how important community is. We've been
having
 our eyes opened it here Michigan for a few years now and as
 the
 economy 

[videoblogging] Google Helping Bloggers with Data Portability

2009-01-11 Thread Schlomo Rabinowitz
Supposedly, this should make exporting your blogspot account to another
host, say WordPress, much easier.

Let me know if you try it out! Curious if its seamless or not.

Sent to you by Schlomo Rabinowitz via Google Reader: Google Helping
Bloggers with Data Portability via ReadWriteWeb by Lidija Davis on
1/11/09
Want to move your blog to another publishing platform? Well now Google
has made it easier for you. Last Friday, the Data Liberation Team
announced the Google Blog Converters project on their Open Source Blog.

Google made data portability a lot easier for Blogger users a month ago
and with this announcement it appears they are offering easier
portability solutions to WordPress, Movable Type, and LiveJournal users
as well.
Sponsor


Friday's release provides Python libraries and runnable scripts that
convert between the export formats of the above platforms. Future plans
include synchronization tools between services that don't offer
import/export features as well as support for BlogML.

Google has also released templates for hosting the conversions on
Google App Engine.



Take a look at the examples hosted on Google App Engine:

- Blogger to WordPress
- WordPress to Blogger
- LiveJournal to Blogger
But beware the caveat noted in the readme file:
There is a limit to the size of a downloaded file on appspot.com of 1
MB of data. Thus, these hosted applications should only be used for
reference or for the conversion of small blog export files.
If you're interested in getting involved with the project, take a look
at the source code or join the discussion group here.
Discuss


Things you can do from here:
- Subscribe to ReadWriteWeb using Google Reader
- Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your
favorite sites


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[videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
Hi guys,
I've created a very simple ad for pay to play video on my site and  
I'd like to get some feedback from you all.

http://k9athlete.com/images/stories/onlinejam.jpg

Just your kneejerk reaction. Go with your gut.

What does it make you feel/think?

Could it be effective?

peace,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com





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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Brook Hinton
Honestly, I am totally baffled. I'm not sure what its saying. It looks two
completely random images and a topic heading.

What are you trying to say with it?


___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
I was afraid of that...

I'm trying to avoid putting a monetary value on the ad.

Online instruction is $5 per topic.

Try this...

http://k9athlete.com/images/stories/onlinejam2.jpg





Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 11, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

 Honestly, I am totally baffled. I'm not sure what its saying. It  
 looks two
 completely random images and a topic heading.

 What are you trying to say with it?

 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I understand what you are trying to say, but not through the ad... I'd get
rid of the coke bottles; I think its what is confusing me.

Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com wrote:

   I was afraid of that...

 I'm trying to avoid putting a monetary value on the ad.

 Online instruction is $5 per topic.

 Try this...

 http://k9athlete.com/images/stories/onlinejam2.jpg


 Ron Watson
 http://k9disc.blip.tv
 http://k9disc.com
 http://discdogradio.com
 http://pawsitivevybe.com

 On Jan 11, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

  Honestly, I am totally baffled. I'm not sure what its saying. It
  looks two
  completely random images and a topic heading.
 
  What are you trying to say with it?
 
  ___
  Brook Hinton
  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com
  studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Really Great Article on Media Trends and the Curation Economy

2009-01-11 Thread Brook Hinton
on your site you have
a little button that takes folks to another site where they buy
credits - $ 5.00 or $ 10.00 at a time. Then they come back to your
site, and click on a video that they want to watch, that costs 2
cents. 
Most non-geek/tech/online-most-of-the-time folks will give up if they have
to go to another site then come back or deal with something like credits.
To break through this sort of thing needs an interface that works for people
who don't spend lots of time online and don't understand navigation beyond
the back button and their bookmarks.

I think breakthrough curation sites will use minimalist, simple designs and
interfaces that can be mastered without thought by total novices. Your
grandma who has only used the internet for yahoo mail has to not need to
call anyone for help or look anything up, and feel totally confident that
everything involving money is completely, utterly secure.


Brook



___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Brook Hinton
Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.

___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of  
coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think  
twice about it.

But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques  
mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?

Doesn't make sense to me.

I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and simply -  
visually.

So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?

peace,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

 Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.

 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Kath O'Donnell
what about something really obvious for people - text like 'your spare
change Vs my training video'

I didn't know what the coke bottles or other image were for. maybe u
need to check with the dog list who are your audience? do some market
research with them as they might make the links better?


2009/1/12 Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com:
 People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of
 coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think
 twice about it.

 But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques
 mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?

 Doesn't make sense to me.

 I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and simply -
 visually.

 So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?

 peace,

 Ron Watson
 http://k9disc.blip.tv
 http://k9disc.com
 http://discdogradio.com
 http://pawsitivevybe.com

 On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

 Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.

 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Jay dedman
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com wrote:
 People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of
 coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think
 twice about it.
 But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques
 mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?
 Doesn't make sense to me.
 I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and simply -
 visually.
 So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?

I apologize if you;ve already read the links I posted today on
Micropayments, but I think they get to the meat of the problem:
Clay Shirky in 2000:
http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2000/12/19/micropayments.html
Clay Shirky in 2003: http://www.shirky.com/writings/fame_vs_fortune.html
Scout McCloud rebuttal:
http://www.scottmccloud.com/home/essays/2003-09-micros/micros.html

Yes, people spend $10 when walking out of the house.
But there just isnt the culture of paying for each little click online.
Doesnt mean it's not possible.
You are just simply fighting the uphill battle of creating new habits.

Before the Obama campaign, giving money online was a rare habit.
He made it a normal part of the online experience.

I dont think any of us really need convincing.
Try your arguments out on your friends who arent media makers.
Take a poll on who would pay to watch your videos.
what hoops would they jump through to get to it...when there are a
billion other websites to entertain for free.

Jay

-- 
http://ryanishungry.com
http://jaydedman.com
917 371 6790


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Really Great Article on Media Trends and the Curation Economy

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
 on your site you have
 a little button that takes folks to another site where they buy
 credits - $ 5.00 or $ 10.00 at a time. Then they come back to your
 site, and click on a video that they want to watch, that costs 2
 cents. 
 Most non-geek/tech/online-most-of-the-time folks will give up if  
 they have
 to go to another site then come back or deal with something like  
 credits.
 To break through this sort of thing needs an interface that works  
 for people
 who don't spend lots of time online and don't understand navigation  
 beyond
 the back button and their bookmarks.

 I think breakthrough curation sites will use minimalist, simple  
 designs and
 interfaces that can be mastered without thought by total novices. Your
 grandma who has only used the internet for yahoo mail has to not  
 need to
 call anyone for help or look anything up, and feel totally  
 confident that
 everything involving money is completely, utterly secure.

I appreciate the comments, Brook.

Actually, the link takes them directly to the shop where the videos  
reside, right to the particular category, which is also linked in a  
menu item. Same exact menu items for each dog sport discipline.

The videos are aptly titled
Japanese Dog Catch - which is a wicked disc dog move that most  
people think is impossible, and most people would love to learn. I  
teach it in 5 minutes to just about anyone and it's as simple as pie.

Front Cross Foundation - an elementary move in Agility, but a  
million ways to teach it and to improve it, shaving seconds off a  
team's time.

Hitting the End of the Dock - something that all dock jumping dogs  
need to do. Many take off 2 feet from the end of the dock. Seeing as  
how inches count in dock diving, adding 2 feet to a jump is HUGE.

And it's actual money, not credits, although I've toyed around with  
that.

Trying to make it as simple as possible, but it's not a simple site.  
It's friggin' HUGE. Perhaps it's too big, I don't know.

This is not personal video either, and it's worth more than 2 cents.

Do you know what it costs to take a seminar with us? With the other  
trainers that will be offering video instruction? It's not cheap, and  
most people come in wanting one or 2 skills.

People drive hundreds of miles to our seminars.

People drive a thousand miles to come train here at our place.

I run into this 'hobbyist' thing and underestimated value all the  
time, and it's frustrating.

Clean Run, an agility Magazine, does $8million in revenue. That's one  
sport. People pay $400 for a couple days of seminar work in Agility.

The economy has tanked, people can't afford that anymore.

That's where we step in.

Sorry to hit the list with this stuff, but you guys are really the  
best resource I have for what I'm trying to do, and if I can dial  
this in it might be a nice model for others.

I know it's not quite a 'videoblogging' topic, but it sure does dance  
around the edges of topicality.

peace,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:

 on your site you have
 a little button that takes folks to another site where they buy
 credits - $ 5.00 or $ 10.00 at a time. Then they come back to your
 site, and click on a video that they want to watch, that costs 2
 cents. 
 Most non-geek/tech/online-most-of-the-time folks will give up if  
 they have
 to go to another site then come back or deal with something like  
 credits.
 To break through this sort of thing needs an interface that works  
 for people
 who don't spend lots of time online and don't understand navigation  
 beyond
 the back button and their bookmarks.

 I think breakthrough curation sites will use minimalist, simple  
 designs and
 interfaces that can be mastered without thought by total novices. Your
 grandma who has only used the internet for yahoo mail has to not  
 need to
 call anyone for help or look anything up, and feel totally  
 confident that
 everything involving money is completely, utterly secure.

 Brook

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 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

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Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
 what about something really obvious for people - text like 'your spare
 change Vs my training video'

 I didn't know what the coke bottles or other image were for. maybe u
 need to check with the dog list who are your audience? do some market
 research with them as they might make the links better?

Thanks Kath, appreciate it. Better idea. Perhaps Abe Lincoln, or a  
five spot...

I know you guys don't care about dog sports, that's cool and I  
understand that, but this is not only about dog sports though.

This is about monetizing instructional video - any instructional video.

Anyway, thanks for shooting it down so quickly and deftly and for the  
positive commentary about improving it.

peace,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:



 2009/1/12 Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com:
  People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of
  coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think
  twice about it.
 
  But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques
  mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?
 
  Doesn't make sense to me.
 
  I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and  
 simply -
  visually.
 
  So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?
 
  peace,
 
  Ron Watson
  http://k9disc.blip.tv
  http://k9disc.com
  http://discdogradio.com
  http://pawsitivevybe.com
 
  On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:
 
  Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.
 
  ___
  Brook Hinton
  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com
  studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
 
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[videoblogging] Dreamhost JW Flash Player

2009-01-11 Thread Rupert
It's 4am and I'm about to go to catch a ferry to Vancouver for a  
breakfast with David Howell and Jeff Pulver and 50 social media  
vampires, so my brain is a bit foggy, which is why I actually read  
the Dreamhost newsletter for once.  Also, it had a poop theme, which  
sort of sucked me in.
Anyway, the guy who writes it had something to say about the JW Flash  
Video Player, so I thought I'd just copy   paste it.  It looked kind  
of interesting - but forgive me if it's not, my brain is still in  
lizard stage (although impressively able to type and spell, no?)

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv


4.  New.. Version of the Flash Video Player!

I don't have any more stories about poop or Oklahoma.

But, I do have a new version of Jeroen's Flash Video Player (v4.3) at
our http://media.dreamhost.com/ site, available to all Happy DreamHost
Customers!

With such amazing new features as:

  * The ability to switch between HD and SD versions of a video
  * The ability to put ads around your video
  * The ability to do other things, explained here:

 http://www.longtailvideo.com/players/jw-flv-player/

Remember, if you're not so technical, we've got a super-easy flash
converter available right from our web panel at:

 https://panel.dreamhost.com/?tree=goodies.media

Which will do everything for you, and then send you an email when it's
done with the HTML code snippet you need to embed the (new) flash video
player right into your website or blog post!



Re: [videoblogging] Pay to Play Ad:

2009-01-11 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Like I said, I understand your message (and dont think its a bad one at
all), just the coke bottles didnt work for me.
There is definitely money in online education/instruction. For video, it
will be even more so. It's a good niche to get into.

I'm just a cat person is all!

Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com wrote:

what about something really obvious for people - text like 'your spare
  change Vs my training video'
 
  I didn't know what the coke bottles or other image were for. maybe u
  need to check with the dog list who are your audience? do some market
  research with them as they might make the links better?

 Thanks Kath, appreciate it. Better idea. Perhaps Abe Lincoln, or a
 five spot...

 I know you guys don't care about dog sports, that's cool and I
 understand that, but this is not only about dog sports though.

 This is about monetizing instructional video - any instructional video.

 Anyway, thanks for shooting it down so quickly and deftly and for the
 positive commentary about improving it.

 peace,
 Ron Watson
 http://k9disc.blip.tv
 http://k9disc.com
 http://discdogradio.com
 http://pawsitivevybe.com

 On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:

 
 
  2009/1/12 Ron Watson k9d...@mac.com k9disc%40mac.com:
   People will spend $5 at the gas station on a candy bar, bottle of
   coke and bag of chips, and they'll do it over and over - never think
   twice about it.
  
   But to download professional instruction, to get training techniques
   mainlined to them, $5 is prohibitively expensive?
  
   Doesn't make sense to me.
  
   I want to draw attention to that comparison very quickly and
  simply -
   visually.
  
   So what do I use for the comparison? Or is that entire concept bunk?
  
   peace,
  
   Ron Watson
   http://k9disc.blip.tv
   http://k9disc.com
   http://discdogradio.com
   http://pawsitivevybe.com
  
   On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:
  
   Yeah the coke bottles are completely confusing.
  
   ___
   Brook Hinton
   film/video/audio art
   www.brookhinton.com
   studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
  
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Re: [videoblogging] super cheap Xacti video cam on Amazon

2009-01-11 Thread Rupert
Thanks!
I've been meaning to buy a Xacti for a while, and I was thinking that  
a waterproof E1 would serve me well up here in the Pacific Northwest  
winter.  (Seems the trick is not to totally immerse it too much, or  
the screen dies)
Also, I've loved the quality of the footage that people get with  
their E1s.

But I saw David Howell today in Vancouver, and he had a Xacti HD100.   
It shoots great video.  If you haven't seen his recent video shot at  
English Bay in Vancouver with it, you should check it out - some of  
the shots are stunning.  Admittedly, most of the imagemaking is done  
by the person making the image, not the camera... but anyway, he said  
he got his HD100 at Walmart for...
$99.00

Maybe he was yanking my chain.

$99 for an HD camera that shoots stuff that good.  Must have been a  
clearance sale or something.  Or a mistake.
I've done 10 hours of travelling today so I'm too tired to check on  
Walmart.com to see if that offer's still on - but it might be worth  
checking out what they have, and for how much.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv

On 11-Jan-09, at 12:39 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote:

Hey all
I love my Xacti E1, and Amazon has a really good deal on the E2 today:

http://icanhaz.com/xacticam

In case you are looking for something like this. Had fun with mine on  
the
waterslides the other week. (they are waterproof)

Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat

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Re: [videoblogging] super cheap Xacti video cam on Amazon

2009-01-11 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I agree, a great camera that you dont mind not being too delicate with it...
and not too surprised he found such a good deal -- they make new models of
these xactis at a pretty steady clip so the older model (which is usually
only last years model) tend to get these good online deals.

Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
AIM:schlomochat


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote:

   Thanks!
 I've been meaning to buy a Xacti for a while, and I was thinking that
 a waterproof E1 would serve me well up here in the Pacific Northwest
 winter. (Seems the trick is not to totally immerse it too much, or
 the screen dies)
 Also, I've loved the quality of the footage that people get with
 their E1s.

 But I saw David Howell today in Vancouver, and he had a Xacti HD100.
 It shoots great video. If you haven't seen his recent video shot at
 English Bay in Vancouver with it, you should check it out - some of
 the shots are stunning. Admittedly, most of the imagemaking is done
 by the person making the image, not the camera... but anyway, he said
 he got his HD100 at Walmart for...
 $99.00

 Maybe he was yanking my chain.

 $99 for an HD camera that shoots stuff that good. Must have been a
 clearance sale or something. Or a mistake.
 I've done 10 hours of travelling today so I'm too tired to check on
 Walmart.com to see if that offer's still on - but it might be worth
 checking out what they have, and for how much.

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv


 On 11-Jan-09, at 12:39 PM, schlomo rabinowitz wrote:

 Hey all
 I love my Xacti E1, and Amazon has a really good deal on the E2 today:

 http://icanhaz.com/xacticam

 In case you are looking for something like this. Had fun with mine on
 the
 waterslides the other week. (they are waterproof)

 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomo.tv - finally moving to wordpress
 http://hatfactory.net - relaxed coworking
 AIM:schlomochat

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[videoblogging] Joomla Video Hosting and Social Network

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Watson
The dreamhost post and an email I received at the same time, reminded  
me of this thread about Joomla as a video host. I also just happen to  
be cutting screenshots for a powerpoint presentation.

So...
Back to the early days of December myfirstmemory was asking about  
video uploading to joomla.

One of the things I mentioned was HWDvideoshare ( http:// 
hwdmediashare.co.uk/ ) .

One of the responses was that it was too ugly to use.

Here's how it wound up looking for me:

http://k9athlete.com/images/stories/devscreenshots/videoplex.jpg

I changed the site back to blue, so I'll have to skin it again, but  
it's real nice looking, I think.

It also does JW player, to whatever specs are available on the player  
at present.

Perl uploader, mencoder, ffmpeg... it's a pretty nice solution.

I'm still on a shared server, so I've not been able to get it all up  
and running...

It should handle user generated submissions for myfirstmemory and  
will be handling them for my site.

I know it's a little late, a month later and all, but my memory was  
jogged and it was sitting right in front of me.

I think it's worth taking another look at.

Peace,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:55 PM, myfirstmemorydotorg wrote:

 Hey there,

 so you are using JomSocial.
 Did you also try Community Builder and if so, any feedback?

 Have you considered having people contribute video, and if so, how?

 Cheers,
 MyFirstMemory.org

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9d...@... wrote:
 
  Joomla as Video Portal
  ---
  Here's something that I don't know if any of you know about.
  http://hwdmediashare.co.uk
 
  From the website:
 
  hwdVideoShare is a powerful video gallery for Joomla that allows  
 you
  to display video media in an organised and managable layout on the
  Internet. hwdVideoShare can handle the uploading, server-side
  processing and playback of large video media in all popular  
 formats. 
 
  I'm looking at this for the 'large project' I've been talking about
  for the last year or so, but it's an alpha release right now, and  
 the
  current styling is not very good. The developer seems to be the  
 bomb,
  though, he's making it happen real quick and has a great reputation
  for delivering outstanding support very quickly. From what I can  
 see,
  that's an understatement.
 
  I'm not sure which direction I'm going to go, but this is a  
 possibility.
 
  There is also a real nice video tool for joomla, called All Videos
  Reloaded: http://allvideos.fritz-elfert.de/
 
  Very cool stuff.
 
  Joomla is becoming much more robust, and is really starting to
  embrace media and social networking.
 
  Check out my old standard: http://k9disc.com .
 
  If you goto Main MenuConnectDisc Dog Cantina to see a brand
  spankin' new Social Networking component, JomSocial, in action.
 
  I think it looks pretty slick and has been well received by the disc
  dog community.
 
  I'm not real happy with the organizational structure, but I'm about
  ready to wrap it into that 'large project'.
 
  More on the 'large project'
  ---
  I'm in the process of creating a dog sport community, not unlike
  k9disc.com - but BIGGER - that will feature pay to play  
 instructional
  video, a facebook-esque social network, affiliate vendor support,  
 and
  online magazine.
 
  If anyone is interested in discussing Joomla as a media/social
  network platform, I'd be happy to engage in that conversation. I've
  been buried in the application for a few months now, and have a lot
  of information to share.
 
  I think Joomla has been overlooked and is under-appreciated
  application by this community, and would really like to see a little
  focus put on it by some of you serious video geeks.
 
  I sure could use someone to bounce ideas off of.
 
  peace,
  Ron Watson
  http://k9disc.blip.tv
  http://k9disc.com
  http://discdogradio.com
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Re: [videoblogging] super cheap Xacti video cam on Amazon

2009-01-11 Thread Andrew Darlow
Thank you Rupert, that video by David Howell is STUNNING!

Too bad that there is no external mic. Looks like the HD1000 is the  
least expensive Xacti ($400-500) with that.

There is a great thread on external mics and the Xacti's here:
http://tinyurl.com/8ane5c

All the best,

Andrew
--
Andrew Darlow
Editor, The Imaging Buffet
http://www.imagingbuffet.com
Author, 301 Inkjet Tips and Techniques:
An Essential Printing Resource for Photographers - http:// 
www.inkjettips.com


On Jan 12, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Rupert wrote:

 Thanks!
 I've been meaning to buy a Xacti for a while, and I was thinking that
 a waterproof E1 would serve me well up here in the Pacific Northwest
 winter. (Seems the trick is not to totally immerse it too much, or
 the screen dies)
 Also, I've loved the quality of the footage that people get with
 their E1s.

 But I saw David Howell today in Vancouver, and he had a Xacti HD100.
 It shoots great video. If you haven't seen his recent video shot at
 English Bay in Vancouver with it, you should check it out - some of
 the shots are stunning. Admittedly, most of the imagemaking is done
 by the person making the image, not the camera... but anyway, he said
 he got his HD100 at Walmart for...
 $99.00

 Maybe he was yanking my chain.

 $99 for an HD camera that shoots stuff that good. Must have been a
 clearance sale or something. Or a mistake.
 I've done 10 hours of travelling today so I'm too tired to check on
 Walmart.com to see if that offer's still on - but it might be worth
 checking out what they have, and for how much.

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv
 .


 

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