Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
For those working on coverage, you might be interested to know that Friday was also Buy Nothing Day: http://www.adbusters.org/metas/eco/bnd/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Well I think experience helps. I've been a happy Black Friday participant for years - always among the first in the queue. Also planning and making sure your are SUPER EARLY in the queue. I look forward to it all year long - Black Friday and MacWorld Expo San Francisco the second week in January - also coincides with my birthday - are my two favorite holidays. The complaints come from people who did none of the above. If you do not take it seriously and plan in depth, you will have a lousy experience. Plus I live only 30 miles from a Fry's Store - which is unlike any other consumer electronics/computer chain in the world. Although there were good deals at Staples and CompUSA, Fry's had the killer deals. I don't consider my purchases needless consumerism because I need an endless supply of Hard Drives long term as they are now cheaper than DV Tape when obtained at sales like last Friday and other Holidays. I will also be first in the queue the day after Christmas at Fry's and perhaps Staples for some more hard drive deals. None are open yet so only the Maxtor says on the box. Maxtor from Singapore HItachi from Japan I guess Acom Data - Don't know -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Nov 27, 2005, at 6:14 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote: Taylor - where are those hard drives made? Are we paying what we SHOULD be for them? I have a hard time believing that someone, somewhere, isn't paying the price for that cheap hard drive, in cheap labour, environmental destruction, or a dead end minimum wage job in a box store. In canada it's the day after christmas, and its called Boxing Day. I personally hate it - i used to work at a record store called AB Sound that had famous Boxing Day Sales - I saw people get in fist fights over cheap hunks of plastic, yelling at each other over car stereos - it was definitely not cheery. Sounds like your experience was positive, but I found it to be some weird lord of the flies electronics orgy of needless consumerism, basically everything wrong with North American society rolled into a single event. But then again, I'm not looking for a hard drive at the moment/rant Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
Yes. Buy nothing so that you pay more later for the same thing when you need it. Makes a lot of sense. 8 ^ # That is what I call Extreme Liberal Insanity. And I'm as far left as it gets. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Joshua Seiden wrote: For those working on coverage, you might be interested to know that Friday was also Buy Nothing Day: http://www.adbusters.org/metas/eco/bnd/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
Taylor - where are those hard drives made? Are we paying what we SHOULD be for them? I have a hard time believing that someone, somewhere, isn't paying the price for that cheap hard drive, in cheap labour, environmental destruction, or a dead end minimum wage job in a box store. In canada it's the day after christmas, and its called Boxing Day. I personally hate it - i used to work at a record store called AB Sound that had famous Boxing Day Sales - I saw people get in fist fights over cheap hunks of plastic, yelling at each other over car stereos - it was definitely not cheery. Sounds like your experience was positive, but I found it to be some weird lord of the flies electronics orgy of needless consumerism, basically everything wrong with North American society rolled into a single event. But then again, I'm not looking for a hard drive at the moment/rant b On 11/26/05, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Drinking Wednesday.Moderate eating Thursday after Two Football games. Hit the internetto make your PLAN to buy what you need including Christmas presents.Stay up all night - get in line about 2am so you are among FIRST. The line is a social scene. Everyone is very friendly and fun to be with.Work your plan when doors open at 5am so you are FIRST at theregister so you are in and out in a flash. We are talking aboutpaying next to nothing for stuff. I got 600 GB worth of HD space for $60 yesterday. That is a good thing. DV tape would have cost me about$200 for 600 GB of space.I was done by 7 am. Then I drove home to write all you about it. AVideoblog is totally unnecessary for this type of report. --Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, FuturecasterSanta Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.orgRSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMediaiTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Nov 26, 2005, at 2:27 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: So the pattern, if I understand it correctly, is: Wednesday stay up all night drinking. Thursday sleep all morning, then eat all afternoon Thursday/Friday night stand in lines for hours So that Friday morning you can crowd into a store with a huge mass of frenzied people Then stand in line some more to... Pay for more stuff than anyone actually needs! Can someone videoblog a rationale as to why this is all a good thing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:27:17 +0100, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wednesday stay up all night drinking. Thursday sleep all morning, then eat all afternoon Thursday/Friday night stand in lines for hours So that Friday morning you can crowd into a store with a huge mass of frenzied people Then stand in line some more to... Pay for more stuff than anyone actually needs! Can someone videoblog a rationale as to why this is all a good thing? ; ) Hang on, I'll transfer you to the marketing department. :o) - Andreas, who rather likes the idea of Thanksgiving (but not Black Friday) -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
No Drinking Wednesday. Moderate eating Thursday after Two Football games. Hit the internet to make your PLAN to buy what you need including Christmas presents. Stay up all night - get in line about 2am so you are among FIRST. The line is a social scene. Everyone is very friendly and fun to be with. Work your plan when doors open at 5am so you are FIRST at the register so you are in and out in a flash. We are talking about paying next to nothing for stuff. I got 600 GB worth of HD space for $60 yesterday. That is a good thing. DV tape would have cost me about $200 for 600 GB of space. I was done by 7 am. Then I drove home to write all you about it. A Videoblog is totally unnecessary for this type of report. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Nov 26, 2005, at 2:27 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: So the pattern, if I understand it correctly, is: Wednesday stay up all night drinking. Thursday sleep all morning, then eat all afternoon Thursday/Friday night stand in lines for hours So that Friday morning you can crowd into a store with a huge mass of frenzied people Then stand in line some more to... Pay for more stuff than anyone actually needs! Can someone videoblog a rationale as to why this is all a good thing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
I thought you were talking about a stock market crash. Google Black Friday (news, links) Black Friday is the day when retailers traditionally get back in the black The Detroit Free Press has included video clips with their story today on Black Friday of locals waiting in the cold early AM to buy stuff cheap. No stampede here. Even if Italy celebrated Thanksgiving and the consumer orgy that starts the day after, today we're having a nationwide general strike.. A nationwide strike - interesting... -Jack http:view-point.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
interesting take on this from Max (audio podcast - he also vlogs) http://feeds.feedburner.com/KarmabanqueRadio?m=257 Jack Olmsted wrote: I thought you were talking about a stock market crash. Google "Black Friday" (news, links) Black Friday is the day when retailers traditionally get back "in the black" The Detroit Free Press has included video clips with their story today on Black Friday of locals waiting in the cold early AM to buy stuff cheap. No stampede here. Even if Italy celebrated Thanksgiving and the consumer orgy that starts the day after, today we're having a nationwide general strike.. A nationwide strike - interesting... -Jack http:view-point.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
On 11/25/05, Jack Olmsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Detroit Free Press has included video clips with their storytoday on Black Friday of locals waiting in the cold early AM to buystuff cheap. Is stuff really that much cheaper, or is this some kind of herd mentality in action? A nationwide strike - interesting... Protesting the inevitable pension cuts, job layoffs, etc. Italy can no longer afford its lifestyle. So, just to slash productivity even more, everybody goes on strike and makes it difficult even for those who want to work to do so.-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
Is the concept of a general-strike long gone in the united states? Its alive and well in many parts of Europe. I dont think the UK has had a pproper general strike since the winter of discontent 1978-79. I wouldnt claim to understand Italian politics but theres historically some kind of people-power (or radical thinking or somthing) in Italy that gets, from time to time, repressed in ways noticably different to elsewhere. I do not know if this also relates to the apparent populatiry of small pirate tv stations in Italy? Anyway I wont argue with Deidre about the causes except to say its all a part of the big 'there is no alternative' move to neo-liberalism and market reform stuff that weve been assured for decades is good for us, but which like anything else has its downsides (and is no miracle cure and is unsustainable but thats just by opinion). Some countries (UK, US, notable others are further ahed on this conversion than others. Its often personalised, eg in the UK its 'thatcherism', but its a general trend really thats been ramping up heavily since World War 2) The post-thanksgiving shopping frenzy sounds much like post-xmas and new-years day sales orgies elsewhere. Some items can be greatly slashed in price on such occasions, and this is compensated for by extra volume of products shifted, or by price-cutting on selected lines but getting people to buy high-profit stuff at the same time. Also once its become traditional then competition kicks in , eveyone slashes prices on that day so if you want to get some money from the masses of shoppers then you gotta join in. I dont know if the timing is also good to help some inventory issues, eg getting rid of certain models of stuff in order to bring the new ranges in for Christmas. Steve of Elbows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/25/05, Jack Olmsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Detroit Free Press has included video clips with their story today on Black Friday of locals waiting in the cold early AM to buy stuff cheap. Is stuff really that much cheaper, or is this some kind of herd mentality in action? A nationwide strike - interesting... Protesting the inevitable pension cuts, job layoffs, etc. Italy can no longer afford its lifestyle. So, just to slash productivity even more, everybody goes on strike and makes it difficult even for those who want to work to do so. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
Oops sorry I spelt your name wrong Deirdré. Also I should have said that this stuff has been ramping up since the 70's/80's, not since Wold War 2, as the initial post-war period required big government spending to rebuild many countries. I dunno if the terminology is different it the US. If so the word 'new deal' would probably feature, that old chestnut vs free market stuff. Anyway I could waffle forever on this but now is time for me to listen o my own 'war on text' stuff and not go there on this list. I'll save it for a video that I may get ound to making one of these lifetimes. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the concept of a general-strike long gone in the united states? Its alive and well in many parts of Europe. I dont think the UK has had a pproper general strike since the winter of discontent 1978-79. I wouldnt claim to understand Italian politics but theres historically some kind of people-power (or radical thinking or somthing) in Italy that gets, from time to time, repressed in ways noticably different to elsewhere. I do not know if this also relates to the apparent populatiry of small pirate tv stations in Italy? Anyway I wont argue with Deidre about the causes except to say its all a part of the big 'there is no alternative' move to neo-liberalism and market reform stuff that weve been assured for decades is good for us, but which like anything else has its downsides (and is no miracle cure and is unsustainable but thats just by opinion). Some countries (UK, US, notable others are further ahed on this conversion than others. Its often personalised, eg in the UK its 'thatcherism', but its a general trend really thats been ramping up heavily since World War 2) The post-thanksgiving shopping frenzy sounds much like post-xmas and new-years day sales orgies elsewhere. Some items can be greatly slashed in price on such occasions, and this is compensated for by extra volume of products shifted, or by price-cutting on selected lines but getting people to buy high-profit stuff at the same time. Also once its become traditional then competition kicks in , eveyone slashes prices on that day so if you want to get some money from the masses of shoppers then you gotta join in. I dont know if the timing is also good to help some inventory issues, eg getting rid of certain models of stuff in order to bring the new ranges in for Christmas. Steve of Elbows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/25/05, Jack Olmsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Detroit Free Press has included video clips with their story today on Black Friday of locals waiting in the cold early AM to buy stuff cheap. Is stuff really that much cheaper, or is this some kind of herd mentality in action? A nationwide strike - interesting... Protesting the inevitable pension cuts, job layoffs, etc. Italy can no longer afford its lifestyle. So, just to slash productivity even more, everybody goes on strike and makes it difficult even for those who want to work to do so. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:34:43 +0100, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the concept of a general-strike long gone in the united states? Its alive and well in many parts of Europe. I dont think the UK has had a pproper general strike since the winter of discontent 1978-79. Our last one was in '98 and it sucked a lot. LO (an umbrella org. for 18 unions) called a general strike. They organize 1,4 million people out of a population of 5 million. When them people don't work the country don't work. :o) Anyway I wont argue with Deidre about the causes except to say its all a part of the big 'there is no alternative' move to neo-liberalism and market reform stuff that weve been assured for decades is good for us, but which like anything else has its downsides (and is no miracle cure and is unsustainable but thats just by opinion). Around here it's usually because workers can't get all the vacation they want. A little more pragmatic. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
Many things are the lowest they will be until next Black Friday although we get a few other days close to it like the day after Christmas and Easter and July 4th and Labor Day. It is by no means a herd mentality. But it is HEARD mentality for sure - as in I HEARD (read as in the advertising we study on Thursday including online reports and reviews to make sure models are not really dud bargains. I learned several key Black Friday secrets just by sharing with others in the lines today. One, The Fry's ads are online at the San Jose Mercury and LA Times Websites early evening before the paper hits the street the next morning. I image they are also online in the other Fry's markets' paper's sites. This is did not know at all. I was always trying to find them at the Fry's site instead of at the paper's site. That's a big DUH to me. Talk about overlooking the obvious. Plus it's totally INTERACTIVE. Check it out. http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ads.aspx? adid=2281566advid=32664type= Two, Always ASK for what you are looking for at CompUSA because it is likely to be IN THE BACK. You have to tell even the manager to get it from the back. They are totally clueless about what they have put up for sale. Three, don't worry if you are more than one hundred souls back in the queue. I was about 150 and was first to the register. On the other hand, don't take the queue lightly. You have to be serious about the queue in order to become a Black Friday Winner. That is why there is no sleeping the night before Black Friday. I think it's safe to say that it is unwise to go to bed Thanksgiving evening. After an amazing meal that ended about 8:15 pm, I stayed up with PBS NOVA's Hitler's Sunken Secret, new Prime Time CBS HDTV mysteries (CSI Without A Trace), a South Park Thanksgiving Special featuring a rewrite of The Miracle Worker staring Timmy in SD, David Letterman back in HD and hit a quart of Coffee Silk® Soylatte™ (about the equivalent of two cups of mild coffee) about 1:30 after Craig in SD. Then I was good to go. Don't even feel sleepy now at 10:41 am. It's really a cultural historical event in America. It has a very large entertainment factor. Sharing deal stories with strangers is really an amazing phenomenon. Everyone is in a party mood. And when the doors open, it's every shopper for him or her self. There's no thrill like the sight of a free 80 GB or 200 GB drive for $30 waiting for you with open arms in a cart full of more for everyone behind you. After the prelims with your fellow shoppers, it's a sort of Parasocial Interaction not unlike television where you have the illusion of interaction with inanimate objects. (JK) Today I bought 600 GB worth of hard drive space for about $60 after rebates. Is that cheap enough for you? Yes 10¢ per GB. DV Tape costs more than 20¢ a GB. Purchase details in my Black Friday Deals post. I will be very surprised if Fry's doesn't open at 4 am next year, 3 am in '07, 2 am in '08, 1 am in '09 and midnight in 2010. Bring it on. Some of us live for Black Friday every year. It's the bomb. Let's hear some more amazing Black Friday tails here you 1600 readers. -- Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903 New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 On Nov 25, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: Is stuff really that much cheaper, or is this some kind of herd mentality in action? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:02:08 +0100, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's hear some more amazing Black Friday tails here you 1600 readers. First Meiser didn't want to split hares and now you want tails. What's up with you guys and animals? Anyway, I've been celebrating Buy Nothing Day today[1]. :o) URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buy_Nothing_Day - Andreas [1] Yes, I know it's not until tomorrow in Europe, but I'm going out tomorrow and if I don't buy stuff, I don't eat! -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
I dont like the way Apple groom the hairy gnarly long tail, or draw eyes on the invisible face of the future. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:02:08 +0100, Kunga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's hear some more amazing Black Friday tails here you 1600 readers. First Meiser didn't want to split hares and now you want tails. What's up with you guys and animals? Anyway, I've been celebrating Buy Nothing Day today[1]. :o) URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buy_Nothing_Day - Andreas [1] Yes, I know it's not until tomorrow in Europe, but I'm going out tomorrow and if I don't buy stuff, I don't eat! -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Covering Black Friday
The concept isn't just gone, it's illegal. Americans don't go on strike, we go shopping!! Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the concept of a general-strike long gone in the united states? Its alive and well in many parts of Europe. I dont think the UK has had a pproper general strike since the winter of discontent 1978-79. I wouldnt claim to understand Italian politics but theres historically some kind of people-power (or radical thinking or somthing) in Italy that gets, from time to time, repressed in ways noticably different to elsewhere. I do not know if this also relates to the apparent populatiry of small pirate tv stations in Italy? Anyway I wont argue with Deidre about the causes except to say its all a part of the big 'there is no alternative' move to neo-liberalism and market reform stuff that weve been assured for decades is good for us, but which like anything else has its downsides (and is no miracle cure and is unsustainable but thats just by opinion). Some countries (UK, US, notable others are further ahed on this conversion than others. Its often personalised, eg in the UK its 'thatcherism', but its a general trend really thats been ramping up heavily since World War 2) The post-thanksgiving shopping frenzy sounds much like post-xmas and new-years day sales orgies elsewhere. Some items can be greatly slashed in price on such occasions, and this is compensated for by extra volume of products shifted, or by price-cutting on selected lines but getting people to buy high-profit stuff at the same time. Also once its become traditional then competition kicks in , eveyone slashes prices on that day so if you want to get some money from the masses of shoppers then you gotta join in. I dont know if the timing is also good to help some inventory issues, eg getting rid of certain models of stuff in order to bring the new ranges in for Christmas. Steve of Elbows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/25/05, Jack Olmsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Detroit Free Press has included video clips with their story today on Black Friday of locals waiting in the cold early AM to buy stuff cheap. Is stuff really that much cheaper, or is this some kind of herd mentality in action? A nationwide strike - interesting... Protesting the inevitable pension cuts, job layoffs, etc. Italy can no longer afford its lifestyle. So, just to slash productivity even more, everybody goes on strike and makes it difficult even for those who want to work to do so. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
