[videoblogging] Re: job for videoblogger
*Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
Re: [videoblogging] Re: job for videoblogger
I don't have a degree either Heath and I've gotten a couple of jobs in the past that said they required a degree. I just applied anyway and showed them in the interview that they weren't going to find anyone with a degree who could do the job better. - Verdi On 3/21/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yeah. I saw that, and thought the same damn thing, Heath. I went to university, but seeing stuff like that makes me mad. I suppose you could laugh - the irony of linking videoblogging, poverty and specifying a mandatory degree is pretty absurd, so maybe they're just kidding. Send in a video application and make that point, maybe. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 21 Mar 2007, at 19:32, Heath wrote: *Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: job for videoblogger
Often find the whole charity business pretty obsurd, especially with charities that reach the size and atature, and use the same PR, as corporations. I imagine there are whole sectors where a degree is still the norm, and well I dont know so much about this stuff really, Im hoping to learn more when I visit old uni friends, one of whom works for a charity and the other in government. Education has a powrful historical link with what responsibilities you are allowed, who is allowed to touch the levers of various important institutions and fabric of society ironing machines. Here in the UK class mobility has ground to a halt again, and higher education will become more entwined with class and wealth again. No matter all the hype, our leaders have the habit of having gone to the best schools, where they are surely indoctrinated with the confidence that they are the future rulers. Doesnt seem so different in the USA from what Ive seen. Yeah sure anybody can become president, right, thats why the last race was between 2 skull boners. Oops there I go ranting again Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. I saw that, and thought the same damn thing, Heath. I went to university, but seeing stuff like that makes me mad. I suppose you could laugh - the irony of linking videoblogging, poverty and specifying a mandatory degree is pretty absurd, so maybe they're just kidding. Send in a video application and make that point, maybe. Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 21 Mar 2007, at 19:32, Heath wrote: *Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: job for videoblogger
Yeah, I know, I just got in rant mode and went forth.it's just been a pet peeve of mine for a while.and I know and I want people with degrees in most cases, like a doctor, etcjust struck a nerve, I am all better now ;) And I have gotten a few jobs as welllike I said, just a pet peevethe funny thing is I keep talking about going back to school but I know if I do I would want to for film or something but then part of me thinks, why I am making film now, etc, etc.it's Wed what can I say, my hormones are all out of whack... ;) Heath (a bit calmer now, but still fighting against paper!) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have a degree either Heath and I've gotten a couple of jobs in the past that said they required a degree. I just applied anyway and showed them in the interview that they weren't going to find anyone with a degree who could do the job better. - Verdi On 3/21/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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i have a degree but the reason i've gotten any work in the last 2 years was because i'm a videoblogger! ; ) On 21 Mar 2007 14:59:58 -0700, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I know, I just got in rant mode and went forth.it's just been a pet peeve of mine for a while.and I know and I want people with degrees in most cases, like a doctor, etcjust struck a nerve, I am all better now ;) And I have gotten a few jobs as welllike I said, just a pet peevethe funny thing is I keep talking about going back to school but I know if I do I would want to for film or something but then part of me thinks, why I am making film now, etc, etc.it's Wed what can I say, my hormones are all out of whack... ;) Heath (a bit calmer now, but still fighting against paper!) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have a degree either Heath and I've gotten a couple of jobs in the past that said they required a degree. I just applied anyway and showed them in the interview that they weren't going to find anyone with a degree who could do the job better. - Verdi On 3/21/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June -- http://michaelverdi.com http://spinxpress.com http://freevlog.org Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Pixelodeon-June 9th 10th American Film Institute (AFI) LA, CA From the Computer Screen to the Big Screen http://pixelodeonfest.com/ -- Author of Secrets of Videoblogging http://tinyurl.com/me4vs Me http://RyanEdit.com, http://RyanIsHungry.com Educate http://FreeVlog.org, http://Node101.org Community Capitalism http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com iChat/AIM VideoRodeo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: job for videoblogger
I'm with you Heath on this one. I think Verdi's advice is sound and if you are interested in the job to give it a shot. Make a demo movie for them. I've had that happen to me many times. I had the knowledge and practical know-how. Didn't have the degree. I would get turned down. My feeling is they will hire someone who has a degree who will do a google search for videoblogging grab enough lingo to bs the interview and then try to figure it out after they get the job. Might be a few lurkers doing that just now for corporate M$M. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
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Mandatory degree = you are trained to think and be inside the box. Nevermind. Hehehe. Jan On 3/21/07, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you Heath on this one. I think Verdi's advice is sound and if you are interested in the job to give it a shot. Make a demo movie for them. I've had that happen to me many times. I had the knowledge and practical know-how. Didn't have the degree. I would get turned down. My feeling is they will hire someone who has a degree who will do a google search for videoblogging grab enough lingo to bs the interview and then try to figure it out after they get the job. Might be a few lurkers doing that just now for corporate M$M. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: job for videoblogger
That's a great opportunity for someone who wants to help poverty out. I think vlogging is something you don't have to come into the office for either. If I didn't have a full time firefighting career in NYC, had FCP 5 skills, and perhaps a journalism course somewhere I would give it a try. I have a BFA in Painting Drawing that I paid for myself in 5 years of college. Paid in full by doing three years in the US Army. For someone with college bills, rent, and a normal life though, I think it would take some good back up from mom pop, doing anything in the arts. Francisco --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you Heath on this one. I think Verdi's advice is sound and if you are interested in the job to give it a shot. Make a demo movie for them. I've had that happen to me many times. I had the knowledge and practical know-how. Didn't have the degree. I would get turned down. My feeling is they will hire someone who has a degree who will do a google search for videoblogging grab enough lingo to bs the interview and then try to figure it out after they get the job. Might be a few lurkers doing that just now for corporate M$M. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: *Bachelor Degree mandatory Great, just great now not only can I not get ahead in the corpatre world because I don't have a degree, (was busy going to war and learning life leason's first hand) but I can't vlog for a living for a grass roots campaign because I don't have a @[EMAIL PROTECTED] piece of paper. just great. My wife works for an organizantion here in Cincinnati www.cincinnatiworks.org and we (they) are working on the very issue of poverty, she doesn't have a degree and a few on the staff don't. and they are doing a damn good job of fighting poverty one person at a time. People in poverty don't need a piece of paper, they need hope, and they need to learn it and they need to learn that they can break the cycle and they need to hear from people who have done it and continue to do it, one day at a time. And you can do that without a piece of paper. And just to be clear I am not dismissing the work involved to get a higher degree, my beef is for something like a vlog I need a degree. I mean honestly how could having a degree in this situation make me a better vlogger or help communicate to the masses better? Heath (ranting against paper since 1986) http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Beth Kanter sent this to me: http://one.org/node/260 Jay ___ The ONE Campaign is seeking a Video Blogger to communicate and engage our 2.4M and growing membership in the fight against global poverty. Requirements: *1-2 years of experience in video blogging and/or significant familiarity with video blogging techniques *1-2 years of experience working on Internet based campaigns, specifically for political organizations or issue advocacy highly preferred *User of and/or understanding of new video sharing services including YouTube, Google Video and others *Exposure to video/film use in communication and advocacy contexts *Bachelor Degree mandatory -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
