Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over this interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol? If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Brief happens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that she would be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. The Right Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact that they're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, There's a bit more info there. But they're really avoid answering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal. And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it... Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
geez, casey! he's been posted those online again i told him it was bad for our image!On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Devlon-What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content.What he said in theinterview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say?This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making thisstatement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I wouldimagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has aproblem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn'teven know I was there.Personally, I like your pink frilly pantiesthe best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;)Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch overthis interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol?If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Briefhappens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that shewould be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. TheRight Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact thatthey're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote:Hello, There's a bit more info there.But they're really avoidanswering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal.And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote:Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it...Adam Curry clears up concerns that under thePodshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content:http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/ [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.comYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
Hello,I'd need to actually read the contract, but I have a feeling that Adam Curry is using a bit of word play to mislead people. Let me explain.While technically, they don't own the content, it has the effect that they own the content. If PodShow gets exclusive rights to do anything they want with your content forever, and you cannot use your content any more in any way, then, for all intents and purposes, they own your content. Although technically speaking, they don't own it... they just have a certain kind of contract which gives them all the legal rights that they would have if they owned it... and that same contact stripped you of virtuall all the legal rights you had as owner. But, like I said, I'd need to actually read it for myself.See yaOn 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Devlon-What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content.What he said in theinterview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say?This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making thisstatement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I wouldimagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has aproblem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn'teven know I was there.Personally, I like your pink frilly pantiesthe best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;)Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch overthis interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol?If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Briefhappens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that shewould be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. TheRight Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact thatthey're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote:Hello, There's a bit more info there.But they're really avoidanswering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal.And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote:Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it...Adam Curry clears up concerns that under thePodshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content:http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 [...]-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:55:44 +0200, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content. What he said in the interview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say? This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making this statement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I would imagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has a problem. Making a statement like that means nothing. What matters is what the contract says, and he's not sharing their standard contract, so all we can do is guess (and guessing is not in Podshow's favour). I suspect what Charles says is true. That PodShow participants are not signing over ownership, but only irrevocable and perpetual broadcasting rights (and probably a handful of other vital rights). So Curry can sit down and say we don't own their content and be technically correct, he will be incorrect in the eyes of most people (when people say PodShow owns the content they equate ownership rights with the irrevocable, perpetual broadcasting rights). If this is the truth then Curry is not only behaving unethucally, he's also being a moron. But Curry won't disclose the actual wording of the contracts so we can't know the truth. Coincidentally that also makes him a moron. :o) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
that's probably what ot comes down to, yes.do they at least give some sort of royalties if podshow profits from your content?i think audio 'talk show' type content can often become irrelevent after some time passes whereas video is *more likely* to maintain a higer value as time passes. how many people go back and listen to a podcast from a year ago? unless these independent shows include quality music, live performances etc or is not entertainment content, then people would generally have an interest in podcast archives but for those interested in a podshow network, its mostly about entertainment and usually in the form of radio talk shows. so, maybe it doesnt fucking matter who has the rights in actuality and only good for a debate on what is fair to content creators etc. again, video is different in my mind. its possible you have YOU as a visual and that is something you dont nec want to have put out there and remixed and put out of context without your consent (and any other person that is captured). there's my besides the point piece of babble. ;)sullOn 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,I'd need to actually read the contract, but I have a feeling that Adam Curry is using a bit of word play to mislead people. Let me explain.While technically, they don't own the content, it has the effect that they own the content. If PodShow gets exclusive rights to do anything they want with your content forever, and you cannot use your content any more in any way, then, for all intents and purposes, they own your content. Although technically speaking, they don't own it... they just have a certain kind of contract which gives them all the legal rights that they would have if they owned it... and that same contact stripped you of virtuall all the legal rights you had as owner. But, like I said, I'd need to actually read it for myself.See yaOn 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon-What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content.What he said in theinterview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say?This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making thisstatement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I wouldimagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has aproblem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn'teven know I was there.Personally, I like your pink frilly pantiesthe best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;)Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch overthis interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol?If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Briefhappens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that shewould be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. TheRight Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact thatthey're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote:Hello, There's a bit more info there.But they're really avoidanswering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal.And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote:Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it...Adam Curry clears up concerns that under thePodshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 [...]-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon- What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content. What he said in the interview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say? This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making this statement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I would imagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has a problem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Meh, It just seems dodgy still. If it's in the contract why deny it. But, whatever :) Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn't even know I was there. Personally, I like your pink frilly panties the best... they frame your butt very nicely.Actually Anne has been asking me to wear her pink frilly ones. I don't own any. ;) Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over this interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol? If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Brief happens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that she would be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. The Right Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact that they're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote: Hello, There's a bit more info there. But they're really avoid answering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal. And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it... Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodnesshttp://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcastshttp://8bitme.blogspot.comhttp://devlonduthie.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
also, i think people interested in a podshow type of service are looking for exposure with the hope to land a bigger and better opportunity. well, that's the whole purpose, right? this likely holds more value than the content they will put out while in contract with podshow. its a price you pay for potential money and opportunity. cant have it all!sullOn 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:that's probably what ot comes down to, yes. do they at least give some sort of royalties if podshow profits from your content?i think audio 'talk show' type content can often become irrelevent after some time passes whereas video is *more likely* to maintain a higer value as time passes. how many people go back and listen to a podcast from a year ago? unless these independent shows include quality music, live performances etc or is not entertainment content, then people would generally have an interest in podcast archives but for those interested in a podshow network, its mostly about entertainment and usually in the form of radio talk shows. so, maybe it doesnt fucking matter who has the rights in actuality and only good for a debate on what is fair to content creators etc. again, video is different in my mind. its possible you have YOU as a visual and that is something you dont nec want to have put out there and remixed and put out of context without your consent (and any other person that is captured). there's my besides the point piece of babble. ;)sullOn 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,I'd need to actually read the contract, but I have a feeling that Adam Curry is using a bit of word play to mislead people. Let me explain.While technically, they don't own the content, it has the effect that they own the content. If PodShow gets exclusive rights to do anything they want with your content forever, and you cannot use your content any more in any way, then, for all intents and purposes, they own your content. Although technically speaking, they don't own it... they just have a certain kind of contract which gives them all the legal rights that they would have if they owned it... and that same contact stripped you of virtuall all the legal rights you had as owner. But, like I said, I'd need to actually read it for myself.See yaOn 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon-What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content.What he said in theinterview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say?This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making thisstatement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I wouldimagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has aproblem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn'teven know I was there.Personally, I like your pink frilly pantiesthe best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;)Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch overthis interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol?If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Briefhappens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that shewould be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. TheRight Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact thatthey're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote:Hello, There's a bit more info there.But they're really avoidanswering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal.And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote:Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it...Adam Curry clears
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
i've not really followed the story i listened to some of the podcast about it.so, is this (controversy?) about Adam Curry not admitting intracacies of the contract or is it about the contract itself? On 4/5/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon- What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content. What he said in the interview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say? This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making this statement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I would imagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has a problem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Meh, It just seems dodgy still. If it's in the contract why deny it. But, whatever :) Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn't even know I was there. Personally, I like your pink frilly panties the best... they frame your butt very nicely.Actually Anne has been asking me to wear her pink frilly ones. I don't own any. ;) Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over this interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol? If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Brief happens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that she would be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. The Right Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact that they're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote: Hello, There's a bit more info there. But they're really avoid answering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal. And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it... Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodnesshttp://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:26:39 +0200, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you're a businessman trying to promote a product, you choose to do interviews with people who will not give you a negative image. Perhaps this is what he was doing with Geek Brief. Businessmen who behave like that usually have a product they know to be subpar. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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damn that google, can't hide anything. On 4/5/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: geez, casey! he's been posted those online again i told him it was bad for our image! On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon- What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content. What he said in the interview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say? This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making this statement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I would imagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has a problem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible? Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn't even know I was there. Personally, I like your pink frilly panties the best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;) Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over this interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol? If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Brief happens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that she would be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. The Right Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact that they're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote: Hello, There's a bit more info there. But they're really avoid answering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal. And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it... Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
from the reading on keith and the girl, however, a bigger and better opportunity would be difficult as, after the end of your contract with podshow, they retain rights to your brand in perpetuity - your name, your logo, your content during your contract and the content that you made coming into it. your website would be theirs. that was my interpretation. it's just like record labels who sign people up when they are new and then own the rights to their music forever after. podcasting was supposed to be a way to get away from record labels. wasn't that what curry was spouting when he started the thing? of course, many people will be fine with those terms because they are hoping that fame and fortune will offset the negatives and it might. that's an individual choice (one that i wouldn't make but that's me) either way, full disclosure is called for.anneOn 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, i think people interested in a podshow type of service are looking for exposure with the hope to land a bigger and better opportunity. well, that's the whole purpose, right? this likely holds more value than the content they will put out while in contract with podshow. its a price you pay for potential money and opportunity. cant have it all!sull On 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:that's probably what ot comes down to, yes. do they at least give some sort of royalties if podshow profits from your content?i think audio 'talk show' type content can often become irrelevent after some time passes whereas video is *more likely* to maintain a higer value as time passes. how many people go back and listen to a podcast from a year ago? unless these independent shows include quality music, live performances etc or is not entertainment content, then people would generally have an interest in podcast archives but for those interested in a podshow network, its mostly about entertainment and usually in the form of radio talk shows. so, maybe it doesnt fucking matter who has the rights in actuality and only good for a debate on what is fair to content creators etc. again, video is different in my mind. its possible you have YOU as a visual and that is something you dont nec want to have put out there and remixed and put out of context without your consent (and any other person that is captured). there's my besides the point piece of babble. ;)sullOn 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,I'd need to actually read the contract, but I have a feeling that Adam Curry is using a bit of word play to mislead people. Let me explain.While technically, they don't own the content, it has the effect that they own the content. If PodShow gets exclusive rights to do anything they want with your content forever, and you cannot use your content any more in any way, then, for all intents and purposes, they own your content. Although technically speaking, they don't own it... they just have a certain kind of contract which gives them all the legal rights that they would have if they owned it... and that same contact stripped you of virtuall all the legal rights you had as owner. But, like I said, I'd need to actually read it for myself.See yaOn 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon-What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content.What he said in theinterview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say?This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making thisstatement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I wouldimagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has aproblem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn'teven know I was there.Personally, I like your pink frilly pantiesthe best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;)Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch overthis interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol?If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Briefhappens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that shewould be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, what this vlog community needs is a new Monty Python... with men dressed as women and rowdy british comedy. Devlon in panties is a good start. :PI don't see that happening in the near future. Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: geez, casey! he's been posted those online again i told him it was bad for our image! On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon- What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content. What he said in the interview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say? This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making this statement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I would imagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has a problem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible? Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn't even know I was there. Personally, I like your pink frilly panties the best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;) Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon duthied@ wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over this interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol? If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Brief happens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that she would be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. The Right Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact that they're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote: Hello, There's a bit more info there. But they're really avoid answering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal. And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it... Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Anne Walk http://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
Michael Sullivan wrote: i think audio 'talk show' type content can often become irrelevent after some time passes whereas video is *more likely* to maintain a higer value as time passes. how many people go back and listen to a podcast from a year ago? unless these independent shows include quality music, live performances etc or is not entertainment content, then people would generally have an interest in podcast archives but for those interested in a podshow network, its mostly about entertainment and usually in the form of radio talk shows. I know that it is fairly common for a new listener to the Dawn and Drew Show to go back through their archives and listen to plenty of old material, often the entire catalog. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
i can understand the brand and content, but hopefully they let people have another show on their own after a contract is over (and i believe the contracts are short-term). they prob own rights of the name of your podcast, logos etc... but your private name and ability to start a new show should be your right and i'd guess that it is in this case to. On 4/5/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the reading on keith and the girl, however, a bigger and better opportunity would be difficult as, after the end of your contract with podshow, they retain rights to your brand in perpetuity - your name, your logo, your content during your contract and the content that you made coming into it. your website would be theirs. that was my interpretation. it's just like record labels who sign people up when they are new and then own the rights to their music forever after. podcasting was supposed to be a way to get away from record labels. wasn't that what curry was spouting when he started the thing? of course, many people will be fine with those terms because they are hoping that fame and fortune will offset the negatives and it might. that's an individual choice (one that i wouldn't make but that's me) either way, full disclosure is called for.anneOn 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, i think people interested in a podshow type of service are looking for exposure with the hope to land a bigger and better opportunity. well, that's the whole purpose, right? this likely holds more value than the content they will put out while in contract with podshow. its a price you pay for potential money and opportunity. cant have it all!sull On 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:that's probably what ot comes down to, yes. do they at least give some sort of royalties if podshow profits from your content?i think audio 'talk show' type content can often become irrelevent after some time passes whereas video is *more likely* to maintain a higer value as time passes. how many people go back and listen to a podcast from a year ago? unless these independent shows include quality music, live performances etc or is not entertainment content, then people would generally have an interest in podcast archives but for those interested in a podshow network, its mostly about entertainment and usually in the form of radio talk shows. so, maybe it doesnt fucking matter who has the rights in actuality and only good for a debate on what is fair to content creators etc. again, video is different in my mind. its possible you have YOU as a visual and that is something you dont nec want to have put out there and remixed and put out of context without your consent (and any other person that is captured). there's my besides the point piece of babble. ;)sullOn 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,I'd need to actually read the contract, but I have a feeling that Adam Curry is using a bit of word play to mislead people. Let me explain.While technically, they don't own the content, it has the effect that they own the content. If PodShow gets exclusive rights to do anything they want with your content forever, and you cannot use your content any more in any way, then, for all intents and purposes, they own your content. Although technically speaking, they don't own it... they just have a certain kind of contract which gives them all the legal rights that they would have if they owned it... and that same contact stripped you of virtuall all the legal rights you had as owner. But, like I said, I'd need to actually read it for myself.See yaOn 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon-What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content.What he said in theinterview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say?This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making thisstatement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I wouldimagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has aproblem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn'teven know I was there.Personally, I like your pink frilly pantiesthe best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;)Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch overthis interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol?If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
Hello,Correct me if I'm wrong but, accounding to what Keith and the Girl said, if you signed up with PodShow then you were forever prevented from making a PodCast/Vlog/etc with anyone else or on your own. ( I.e., all your work now and in the future had to go through them.)Which IMO is a pretty bad deal for the podcaster/vlogger.See yaOn 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, i think people interested in a podshow type of service are looking for exposure with the hope to land a bigger and better opportunity. well, that's the whole purpose, right? this likely holds more value than the content they will put out while in contract with podshow. its a price you pay for potential money and opportunity. cant have it all!sull On 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:that's probably what ot comes down to, yes. do they at least give some sort of royalties if podshow profits from your content?i think audio 'talk show' type content can often become irrelevent after some time passes whereas video is *more likely* to maintain a higer value as time passes. how many people go back and listen to a podcast from a year ago? unless these independent shows include quality music, live performances etc or is not entertainment content, then people would generally have an interest in podcast archives but for those interested in a podshow network, its mostly about entertainment and usually in the form of radio talk shows. so, maybe it doesnt fucking matter who has the rights in actuality and only good for a debate on what is fair to content creators etc. again, video is different in my mind. its possible you have YOU as a visual and that is something you dont nec want to have put out there and remixed and put out of context without your consent (and any other person that is captured). there's my besides the point piece of babble. ;)sullOn 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,I'd need to actually read the contract, but I have a feeling that Adam Curry is using a bit of word play to mislead people. Let me explain.While technically, they don't own the content, it has the effect that they own the content. If PodShow gets exclusive rights to do anything they want with your content forever, and you cannot use your content any more in any way, then, for all intents and purposes, they own your content. Although technically speaking, they don't own it... they just have a certain kind of contract which gives them all the legal rights that they would have if they owned it... and that same contact stripped you of virtuall all the legal rights you had as owner. But, like I said, I'd need to actually read it for myself.See yaOn 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon-What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content.What he said in theinterview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say?This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making thisstatement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I wouldimagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has aproblem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn'teven know I was there.Personally, I like your pink frilly pantiesthe best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;)Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch overthis interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol?If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Briefhappens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that shewould be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. TheRight Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact thatthey're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote:Hello, There's a bit more info there.But they're really avoidanswering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
Hello,True, it wouild be entertaining :-)I'd like see the contracts that Keith and the Girl had sent to them. That would certainly clear things up one way or another.See ya On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to see Keith and the Girl interview Adam Curry aboutthis, but Curry would be an idiot if he did an interview with them.Although they are entertaining, they are also set in their beliefs andthey may just gang up on him.In the end, an interview like that would be about as entertaining as CNN's Crossfire and wouldn't reallydo much to change public opinion on either side.When you're a businessman trying to promote a product, you choose todo interviews with people who will not give you a negative image. Perhaps this is what he was doing with Geek Brief.Caseyhttp://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , Charles Iliya Krempeaux[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'd need to actually read the contract, but I have a feeling thatAdam Curry is using a bit of word play to mislead people.Let me explain. While technically, they don't own the content, it has the effectthat they own the content.If PodShow gets exclusive rights to do anything they want with your content forever, and you cannot use your content any more in any way, then, for all intents and purposes, they own your content. Although technically speaking, they don't own it... they just have a certain kind of contract which gives them all the legal rights that they would have if they owned it... and that same contact stripped you of virtuall all the legal rights you had as owner. But, like I said, I'd need to actually read it for myself. See ya On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon- What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content.What he said in the interview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say?This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making this statement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I would imagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has a problem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible? Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn't even know I was there.Personally, I like your pink frilly panties the best... they frame your butt very nicely. ;) Casey http://www.kitkast.com/--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon duthied@ wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over this interview... what sort of questions do you think you wouldask if you were interviewing your idol?If I was interviewing someone Ilook up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Brief happens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that she would be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. The RightThing to do is just make their standard public. The fact that they'rehiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote:Hello, There's a bit more info there.But they're really avoid answering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal.And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it... Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69[...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Individual
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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:33:41 +0200, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Businessmen who behave like that usually have a product they know to be subpar. I disagree. Part of being in a cutting edge business is confidentiality. The last thing you want is your competition knowing all the details of your business. That's not what you said. You said: When you're a businessman trying to promote a product, you choose to do interviews with people who will not give you a negative image. Perhaps this is what he was doing with Geek Brief. That's not about confidentiality. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
Hello,Originally (at least from my perspective), after listening to this...http://shitecom.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=73950 ...this was about the contract being bad. The PodShow and Adam Curry were OK. But they did nothing wrong. It's just that it was my/our opinion that the contract was bad. But you didn't have to sign it, so things were OK. But after hearing this...http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69...I/we then starting having a problem with Adam Curry. And starting question his character. And that's what this discussion has now evolved into.See yaOn 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've not really followed the story i listened to some of the podcast about it.so, is this (controversy?) about Adam Curry not admitting intracacies of the contract or is it about the contract itself? On 4/5/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devlon- What I said was Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content. What he said in the interview was content isn't owned by us it's owned by the producers. That said... what else does he need to say? This was the biggest concern addressed by Keith and the Girl... and by making this statement on GeekBrief.tv, he has made a public statement that I would imagine can hold him accountable in a court of law if someone has a problem. What else do you want him to do... swear on the bible?Meh, It just seems dodgy still. If it's in the contract why deny it. But, whatever :) Devlon, I'm a fracking ninja... if I'm in your bedroom, you wouldn't even know I was there. Personally, I like your pink frilly panties the best... they frame your butt very nicely.Actually Anne has been asking me to wear her pink frilly ones. I don't own any. ;) Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have steered away from the question all together not opened with it 'so we can clear all the doubts once and for all...' And how'd you know I wore panties today? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax guys, there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over this interview... what sort of questions do you think you would ask if you were interviewing your idol? If I was interviewing someone I look up to... like Kyle McLaughlin or Bill Shatner... I doubt I would ask too many controversial questions. There are two sides to every story and Cali from Geek Brief happens to like Podshow and Adam Curry... so why is it so wrong that she would be happy to promote the system and its' founder? Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup solitude@ wrote: Which is total BS. It's a classic Old Corporation approach. The Right Thing to do is just make their standard public. The fact that they're hiding it makes me pretty sure it's pretty bad. - Andreas On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:19:23 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux supercanadian@ wrote: Hello, There's a bit more info there. But they're really avoid answering questions there too. See ya On 4/5/06, john coffey jimmycrackhead2000@ wrote: What a load of crap! Geekbrief is totally swingin on Adams you know what! For a more objective talk check out Podcast 411 http://media24a.libsyn.com/podcasts/podcast411/411_060308.mp3 http://www.jchtv.com/ --- Devlon duthied@ wrote: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 She's a podshow 'gal. And it showswhere's the hard questions? On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon mskitka@ wrote: Thought this was interesting and that others might enjoy it... Adam Curry clears up concerns that under the Podshow contract he owns all Podshow producers' content: http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 Casey http://www.kitkast.com/ [...]-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @ reptile.casupercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:21:31 +0200, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas- I'm not contradicting myself, I'm discussing two seperate points: 1- Business confidentiality to protect a company's individuality (i.e. not divulging specific information so that your company remains on the cutting edge of it's domain); You added this point in your reply to me. Since you hadn't brought it up in your first e-mail I obviously wasn't replying to it. I don't have a time machine. 2- Interview strategies to promote a positive image (i.e. only doing interviews with people who you know and trust... do you think President Bush would ever do an interview with Michael Moore? I don't think so). And I'm telling you that businessmen who pursue this trategy usually have a product they know is subpar. After all if the product was fine they would be able to defend it. President Bush is a special case. He probably wouldn't do an interview with Michael Moore because he is following a strategy of only speaking to his yes-men. And his credibility has suffered greatly as a result. You always see companies/people marked as the bad guy show up for interviews where they know they'll be attacked. It is better than the alternative (staying quiet and let the media angle the story after their liking, or only speaking to yes-men and be called on it). Only speaking to those who already favour you haven't been a viable strategy since the 50s. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
After all if the product was fine theywould be able to defend it.in private meetings, sure. on an entertainment venue, not always true.you can proeprly defend but if an insult or other negative trajectory by the 'host' is more entertaining, then guess who wins? On 4/5/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:21:31 +0200, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Andreas- I'm not contradicting myself, I'm discussing two seperate points: 1- Business confidentiality to protect a company's individuality (i.e. not divulging specific information so that your company remains on the cutting edge of it's domain);You added this point in your reply to me. Since you hadn't brought it up in your first e-mail I obviously wasn't replying to it. I don't have atime machine. 2- Interview strategies to promote a positive image (i.e. only doing interviews with people who you know and trust... do you think President Bush would ever do an interview with Michael Moore?I don't think so).And I'm telling you that businessmen who pursue this trategy usually havea product they know is subpar. After all if the product was fine they would be able to defend it.President Bush is a special case. He probably wouldn't do an interviewwith Michael Moore because he is following a strategy of only speaking tohis yes-men. And his credibility has suffered greatly as a result. You always see companies/people marked as the bad guy show up for interviewswhere they know they'll be attacked. It is better than the alternative(staying quiet and let the media angle the story after their liking, or only speaking to yes-men and be called on it). Only speaking to those whoalready favour you haven't been a viable strategy since the 50s.--Andreas Haugstrup PedersenURL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sull http://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:47:43 +0200, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all if the product was fine they would be able to defend it. in private meetings, sure. on an entertainment venue, not always true. you can proeprly defend but if an insult or other negative trajectory by the 'host' is more entertaining, then guess who wins? That's the game. You still win more by showing up and getting slammed with unfounded accusations than you gain from staying away. That is why these tabloid journalists still have jobs as sad as that may be. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
Hello,On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I'm telling you that businessmen who pursue this trategy usually have a product they know is subpar. After all if the product was fine they would be able to defend it.If you programmed software that would make you a billionaire, wouldyou give away the code so that everyone can benefit on your unique idea?I don't think so.Actually alot of people do it. (Myself included.) It's call Free and Open Source software. Some examples include:LinuxApacheBind FirefoxThe GIMPCinepaintPHPBlender SynfigGNOMEAsteriskOpenOfficeVideoLAN WordpressThis is an extremely incomplete list since there are MILLIONS of Free and Open Source software packages out there. (You may very well be using Free and Open Source software and not even realize it.) The Internet would NOT exist if it weren't for Free and Open Source software. See http://fsf.org/ for more info (although it's probably more geared towards programmers, software engineers, and computer scientists).(And just to say it explicitly, you can make alot of money even if you make Free and Open Source software.) See ya[...]-- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @ reptile.casupercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
Hello,Good point.On 4/5/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all if the product was fine theywould be able to defend it. in private meetings, sure. on an entertainment venue, not always true.you can proeprly defend but if an insult or other negative trajectory by the 'host' is more entertaining, then guess who wins? On 4/5/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:21:31 +0200, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Andreas- I'm not contradicting myself, I'm discussing two seperate points: 1- Business confidentiality to protect a company's individuality (i.e. not divulging specific information so that your company remains on the cutting edge of it's domain);You added this point in your reply to me. Since you hadn't brought it up in your first e-mail I obviously wasn't replying to it. I don't have atime machine. 2- Interview strategies to promote a positive image (i.e. only doing interviews with people who you know and trust... do you think President Bush would ever do an interview with Michael Moore?I don't think so).And I'm telling you that businessmen who pursue this trategy usually havea product they know is subpar. After all if the product was fine they would be able to defend it.President Bush is a special case. He probably wouldn't do an interviewwith Michael Moore because he is following a strategy of only speaking tohis yes-men. And his credibility has suffered greatly as a result. You always see companies/people marked as the bad guy show up for interviewswhere they know they'll be attacked. It is better than the alternative(staying quiet and let the media angle the story after their liking, or only speaking to yes-men and be called on it). Only speaking to those whoalready favour you haven't been a viable strategy since the 50s.[...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.comdeveloper weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
For whoever hasn't become bored with the debate, I posted a comment on the GeekBrief.tv post about the interview asking for some clarification. She did reply. http://geekbrief.podshow.com/?p=69 It all boils down to reading what you are signing. If all this debate has done is made people more aware, then that's cool. If Podshow wants to make a contract like they do (or don't) then so be it. My initial point was this bush-style interview was a farce as far as addressing the topic. ...my two cents. On 4/5/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On 4/5/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I'm telling you that businessmen who pursue this trategy usually have a product they know is subpar. After all if the product was fine they would be able to defend it. If you programmed software that would make you a billionaire, would you give away the code so that everyone can benefit on your unique idea? I don't think so. Actually alot of people do it. (Myself included.) It's call Free and Open Source software. Some examples include: Linux Apache Bind Firefox The GIMP Cinepaint PHP Blender Synfig GNOME Asterisk OpenOffice VideoLAN WordpressThis is an extremely incomplete list since there are MILLIONS of Free and Open Source software packages out there. (You may very well be using Free and Open Source software and not even realize it.) The Internet would NOT exist if it weren't for Free and Open Source software. See http://fsf.org/ for more info (although it's probably more geared towards programmers, software engineers, and computer scientists). (And just to say it explicitly, you can make alot of money even if you make Free and Open Source software.) See ya [...] -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com - blogs, vlogs and video goodness http://mefeedia.com - The easiest way to find free video podcasts http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://devlonduthie.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Adam Curry on GeekBrief.tv
not always ;-)home turf helps.On 4/5/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:47:43 +0200, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all if the product was fine they would be able to defend it. in private meetings, sure. on an entertainment venue, not always true. you can proeprly defend but if an insult or other negative trajectory by the 'host' is more entertaining, then guess who wins?That's the game. You still win more by showing up and getting slammed with unfounded accusations than you gain from staying away. That is why thesetabloid journalists still have jobs as sad as that may be.--Andreas Haugstrup PedersenURL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
