Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows
Great points Frank and Bill. Common sense is not as compelling however as the Frank Sinatra syndrome so many people want to "do it my way." FWIW I think TubeMogul started off primarily to gather stats for you from multiple sites. The video uploading is a newer feature, and naturally, it you start there it is easier for them to generate stats, as well as make some moolah off the aggregated content. Aloha, Rox On 7/31/07, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > correct, frank. > > these services ARE valuable though. > > it always comes back to the old point some of us have been making > forever... > which is to look at these video hosting "destination" sites as a way to > leverage the audiences that traffic them. when we talked about "why use > youtube" the point that always rings true is this to tap into the mass > viewer base but with emphasis on bringing those viewers back to your > own > site if they enjoy your content and want to subscribe to you/your > channel(s). the best way to do this is to definately put out content no > matter what the tos are but have your content also hosted on either your > own > host or with services that respect creative commons and/or just have much > better terms for you. as a content producer/distributor, you should > strategically spread your media, so long as you put care in not soley > depending on the youtubes. ideally, uploading teasers/previews or your own > commercials promoting your "shows" or just personal video messages that > involve you in those communities and as people get to know you, they > will follow you.. wherever your home on the net is. > > also, if you are making a show, it can help to upload to many services in > the beginning. if you get popular, then you wont have to do that as much or > at all anymore. that's when you can start having more control. give and > take. play it out. > > for those not interested in promoting shows etc... if you just have > something to say and dont care about tos... you just want to get your > messages out... then thats another reason why these uploader/tracking > services are valuable and time-savers. > > depends on what you want to achieve through your videos. for some, these > services make total sense. > > however, at any point, these services could be killed off unless proper > business relations are made. the youtubes can easily prevent remote/cross > uploads and access to tracking data if they feel it is hurting their bottom > line or breaking terms of service. typically, an API sets the limits of > what can and cannot be done with a service's platform, even if this is not > enforced at this time. > > sull > > On 7/31/07, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > These multi-site uploaders remind me of the multi-site submit companies > > (submit your site to over 10,000 search engines!). Never really worked > for > > me... > > > > For syndication of video, Media RSS is the solution. Manage once, publish > > everywhere. It provides ONE place to manage videos, metadata, and all > > metrics can be consolidated into one place. It provides better control > (at > > least as good as you are going to get nowadays) - if you want a video > > removed, just remove it from your RSS file. Media RSS is also a great > > solution to allow people to watch your video in any player they want. > > > > Unfortunately, most of these video companies require you to upload your > > video (and agree to their TOS), so we are still stuck with the "upload > > your > > video and agree to my TOS problem" until these sites become more open > > networks and accept video feeds. > > > > Just my 2 cents. :) > > > > -Frank > > > > Frank Sinton > > CEO > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mefeedia.com/user/franks/ > > > > http://mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Share video blogs > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > [mailto: > > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ] > > On Behalf Of Rupert > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:41 AM > > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows > > > > I'm really excited by the multi-site uploaders. I've been waiting > > for someone to do this properly. It's important for a lot of > > reasons. Most of all because most people haven't got time to spend > > their lives uploading every video to a dozen di
Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows
her. For vloggers... it's really really simple. Make your videos 320-640 wide... whatever your comfortable with... put your logo/domain name over them in the corner... keep it subtle... put a nice intro and outro on it further pushing your brand. Go ahead and submit it then to every site you can... use video metric. Youtube is for shit... thank god the EFF sued them for needlessly squelching freedom of speach... and Universal for abusive DMCA takedown notices... you're never going to make a decent dime off youtube... but youtube is never going to make your video clips into a movie... or use them in a video commercial for youtube no matter what their TOS are and no matter how good your video is, just as long as you've put your mark all over it. This goes for every single video site and video contest out there. As the creators of the content it doesn't matter what they say you call the shots. You just have to be savy as to leverage your risks. The question you should be asking is... How can I use these tools like youtube like they use me. I don't ultimately know how sucessful thepan.orgs highly experimental 15 second interstitials were, but I personally loved them and I see all sorts of opportunities to self promote and guerilla market and find an audience on youtube. Peace, -Mike mmeiser.com/blog mefeedia.com On 7/31/07, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > correct, frank. > > these services ARE valuable though. > > it always comes back to the old point some of us have been making forever... > which is to look at these video hosting "destination" sites as a way to > leverage the audiences that traffic them. when we talked about "why use > youtube" the point that always rings true is this to tap into the mass > viewer base but with emphasis on bringing those viewers back to your own > site if they enjoy your content and want to subscribe to you/your > channel(s). the best way to do this is to definately put out content no > matter what the tos are but have your content also hosted on either your own > host or with services that respect creative commons and/or just have much > better terms for you. as a content producer/distributor, you should > strategically spread your media, so long as you put care in not soley > depending on the youtubes. ideally, uploading teasers/previews or your own > commercials promoting your "shows" or just personal video messages that > involve you in those communities and as people get to know you, they > will follow you.. wherever your home on the net is. > > also, if you are making a show, it can help to upload to many services in > the beginning. if you get popular, then you wont have to do that as much or > at all anymore. that's when you can start having more control. give and > take. play it out. > > for those not interested in promoting shows etc... if you just have > something to say and dont care about tos... you just want to get your > messages out... then thats another reason why these uploader/tracking > services are valuable and time-savers. > > depends on what you want to achieve through your videos. for some, these > services make total sense. > > however, at any point, these services could be killed off unless proper > business relations are made. the youtubes can easily prevent remote/cross > uploads and access to tracking data if they feel it is hurting their bottom > line or breaking terms of service. typically, an API sets the limits of > what can and cannot be done with a service's platform, even if this is not > enforced at this time. > > sull > > On 7/31/07, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > These multi-site uploaders remind me of the multi-site submit companies > > (submit your site to over 10,000 search engines!). Never really worked for > > me... > > > > For syndication of video, Media RSS is the solution. Manage once, publish > > everywhere. It provides ONE place to manage videos, metadata, and all > > metrics can be consolidated into one place. It provides better control (at > > least as good as you are going to get nowadays) - if you want a video > > removed, just remove it from your RSS file. Media RSS is also a great > > solution to allow people to watch your video in any player they want. > > > > Unfortunately, most of these video companies require you to upload your > > video (and agree to their TOS), so we are still stuck with the "upload > > your > > video and agree to my TOS problem" until these sites become more open > > networks and accept video feeds. > > > > Just my 2 cents. :) > > > > -Frank > > > > Frank Sinton > > CEO &g
Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows
correct, frank. these services ARE valuable though. it always comes back to the old point some of us have been making forever... which is to look at these video hosting "destination" sites as a way to leverage the audiences that traffic them. when we talked about "why use youtube" the point that always rings true is this to tap into the mass viewer base but with emphasis on bringing those viewers back to your own site if they enjoy your content and want to subscribe to you/your channel(s). the best way to do this is to definately put out content no matter what the tos are but have your content also hosted on either your own host or with services that respect creative commons and/or just have much better terms for you. as a content producer/distributor, you should strategically spread your media, so long as you put care in not soley depending on the youtubes. ideally, uploading teasers/previews or your own commercials promoting your "shows" or just personal video messages that involve you in those communities and as people get to know you, they will follow you.. wherever your home on the net is. also, if you are making a show, it can help to upload to many services in the beginning. if you get popular, then you wont have to do that as much or at all anymore. that's when you can start having more control. give and take. play it out. for those not interested in promoting shows etc... if you just have something to say and dont care about tos... you just want to get your messages out... then thats another reason why these uploader/tracking services are valuable and time-savers. depends on what you want to achieve through your videos. for some, these services make total sense. however, at any point, these services could be killed off unless proper business relations are made. the youtubes can easily prevent remote/cross uploads and access to tracking data if they feel it is hurting their bottom line or breaking terms of service. typically, an API sets the limits of what can and cannot be done with a service's platform, even if this is not enforced at this time. sull On 7/31/07, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > These multi-site uploaders remind me of the multi-site submit companies > (submit your site to over 10,000 search engines!). Never really worked for > me... > > For syndication of video, Media RSS is the solution. Manage once, publish > everywhere. It provides ONE place to manage videos, metadata, and all > metrics can be consolidated into one place. It provides better control (at > least as good as you are going to get nowadays) - if you want a video > removed, just remove it from your RSS file. Media RSS is also a great > solution to allow people to watch your video in any player they want. > > Unfortunately, most of these video companies require you to upload your > video (and agree to their TOS), so we are still stuck with the "upload > your > video and agree to my TOS problem" until these sites become more open > networks and accept video feeds. > > Just my 2 cents. :) > > -Frank > > Frank Sinton > CEO > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mefeedia.com/user/franks/ > > http://mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Share video blogs > > > -Original Message- > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ] > On Behalf Of Rupert > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:41 AM > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows > > I'm really excited by the multi-site uploaders. I've been waiting > for someone to do this properly. It's important for a lot of > reasons. Most of all because most people haven't got time to spend > their lives uploading every video to a dozen different sites, > entering Titles, Descriptions, tags, etc on each one. So you end up > missing out on all the people who frequent sites you haven't uploaded > to. I'd far rather spend that time finding other people's videos, > watching them and connecting. > > To reply to J Rhett Aultman: > Obviously, it's just the ease of use and range of sites they offer > that will make them attractive or not. As far as I'm concerned, > progress is all about automation of all the things that have > traditionally taken a very long time in making and publishing a > videoblog. > Blip has great crossposting options, but doesn't let you upload to > competitors like youtube - except your myspace blog (not to Myspace > Video). > Veoh has a more limited range of sites you can cross-post to than > those listed by Eric today - and they slap a logo on the front of > your video. Plus they screwed up all my audio - put it out of sync, > but Halcyon said a cou
RE: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows
These multi-site uploaders remind me of the multi-site submit companies (submit your site to over 10,000 search engines!). Never really worked for me... For syndication of video, Media RSS is the solution. Manage once, publish everywhere. It provides ONE place to manage videos, metadata, and all metrics can be consolidated into one place. It provides better control (at least as good as you are going to get nowadays) - if you want a video removed, just remove it from your RSS file. Media RSS is also a great solution to allow people to watch your video in any player they want. Unfortunately, most of these video companies require you to upload your video (and agree to their TOS), so we are still stuck with the "upload your video and agree to my TOS problem" until these sites become more open networks and accept video feeds. Just my 2 cents. :) -Frank Frank Sinton CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mefeedia.com/user/franks/ http://mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Share video blogs -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rupert Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:41 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows I'm really excited by the multi-site uploaders. I've been waiting for someone to do this properly. It's important for a lot of reasons. Most of all because most people haven't got time to spend their lives uploading every video to a dozen different sites, entering Titles, Descriptions, tags, etc on each one. So you end up missing out on all the people who frequent sites you haven't uploaded to. I'd far rather spend that time finding other people's videos, watching them and connecting. To reply to J Rhett Aultman: Obviously, it's just the ease of use and range of sites they offer that will make them attractive or not. As far as I'm concerned, progress is all about automation of all the things that have traditionally taken a very long time in making and publishing a videoblog. Blip has great crossposting options, but doesn't let you upload to competitors like youtube - except your myspace blog (not to Myspace Video). Veoh has a more limited range of sites you can cross-post to than those listed by Eric today - and they slap a logo on the front of your video. Plus they screwed up all my audio - put it out of sync, but Halcyon said a couple of weeks ago that it works well for him. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 31 Jul 2007, at 17:19, J. Rhett Aultman wrote: What makes these sites a preferable choice to other places offering similar features? Places like Veoh have offered these kinds of syndication, and Blip.tv also has similar features. Why would I want to use these sites over others? -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime > just read this on Shelly Palmer's Media 3.0 site. you can sign up for > a daily email from him. i find it very useful and concise. thx, eric. > > > VIDMETRIX has launched its own multi-site video uploader. The tool > will allow video publishers to automatically distribute their content > to seven video-sharing sites: YouTube, MySpace, Metacafe, Google, > Yahoo, Revver, and Veoh. Tubemogul, which announced a multi-site > uploader last week, is adding 3 new distribution sites to its service > today, bringing its total reach to 9 video-sharing sites. > > > MY DAMN CHANNEL is a new online video destination launching this > morning. The site will emphasize professional, episodic content, and > promises to "disrupt media" by giving content creators artistic > freedom. The early roster of professionals includes comedian Harry > Shearer, producer Don Was, actor Paul Reiser, and "Web phenom" Andy > Milonakis. MDC will syndicate its content across video-sharing sites, > and collect advertising revenue. The site has signed a distribution > deal with YouTube. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows
I'm really excited by the multi-site uploaders. I've been waiting for someone to do this properly. It's important for a lot of reasons. Most of all because most people haven't got time to spend their lives uploading every video to a dozen different sites, entering Titles, Descriptions, tags, etc on each one. So you end up missing out on all the people who frequent sites you haven't uploaded to. I'd far rather spend that time finding other people's videos, watching them and connecting. To reply to J Rhett Aultman: Obviously, it's just the ease of use and range of sites they offer that will make them attractive or not. As far as I'm concerned, progress is all about automation of all the things that have traditionally taken a very long time in making and publishing a videoblog. Blip has great crossposting options, but doesn't let you upload to competitors like youtube - except your myspace blog (not to Myspace Video). Veoh has a more limited range of sites you can cross-post to than those listed by Eric today - and they slap a logo on the front of your video. Plus they screwed up all my audio - put it out of sync, but Halcyon said a couple of weeks ago that it works well for him. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 31 Jul 2007, at 17:19, J. Rhett Aultman wrote: What makes these sites a preferable choice to other places offering similar features? Places like Veoh have offered these kinds of syndication, and Blip.tv also has similar features. Why would I want to use these sites over others? -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime > just read this on Shelly Palmer's Media 3.0 site. you can sign up for > a daily email from him. i find it very useful and concise. thx, eric. > > > VIDMETRIX has launched its own multi-site video uploader. The tool > will allow video publishers to automatically distribute their content > to seven video-sharing sites: YouTube, MySpace, Metacafe, Google, > Yahoo, Revver, and Veoh. Tubemogul, which announced a multi-site > uploader last week, is adding 3 new distribution sites to its service > today, bringing its total reach to 9 video-sharing sites. > > > MY DAMN CHANNEL is a new online video destination launching this > morning. The site will emphasize professional, episodic content, and > promises to disrupt media by giving content creators artistic > freedom. The early roster of professionals includes comedian Harry > Shearer, producer Don Was, actor Paul Reiser, and Web phenom Andy > Milonakis. MDC will syndicate its content across video-sharing sites, > and collect advertising revenue. The site has signed a distribution > deal with YouTube. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows
What makes these sites a preferable choice to other places offering similar features? Places like Veoh have offered these kinds of syndication, and Blip.tv also has similar features. Why would I want to use these sites over others? -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime > just read this on Shelly Palmer's Media 3.0 site. you can sign up for > a daily email from him. i find it very useful and concise. thx, eric. > > > VIDMETRIX has launched its own multi-site video uploader. The tool > will allow video publishers to automatically distribute their content > to seven video-sharing sites: YouTube, MySpace, Metacafe, Google, > Yahoo, Revver, and Veoh. Tubemogul, which announced a multi-site > uploader last week, is adding 3 new distribution sites to its service > today, bringing its total reach to 9 video-sharing sites. > > > MY DAMN CHANNEL is a new online video destination launching this > morning. The site will emphasize professional, episodic content, and > promises to disrupt media by giving content creators artistic > freedom. The early roster of professionals includes comedian Harry > Shearer, producer Don Was, actor Paul Reiser, and Web phenom Andy > Milonakis. MDC will syndicate its content across video-sharing sites, > and collect advertising revenue. The site has signed a distribution > deal with YouTube. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
Re: [videoblogging] new ways to distribute your shows
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