Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case
Thanks, Anthony, for the article about UCLA's Mexican music collection. Re consistent policies... There is a difference between making copyrighted materials available to enrolled students in a password-protected site (which is the film streaming situation) and putting copyrighted material on the web with free availability to anyone at all. The former case involves educational use as defined in the TEACH act (the legal question being whether they can digitize and stream an entire film, and perhaps whether TEACH covers course management systems in courses that have a standard brick-and-mortar classroom component). The publication of the music collection is untenable unless the music is clearly public domain, or the permissions are obtained. Making digital copies of the non-PD Mexican collection requires recourse to Section 108, which restricts use to the library itself. To me it sounds like what they are doing is perfectly adequate for scholars, who would nevertheless have to come to UCLA to study the full collection. On the other hand, it seems to me that researching the original musicians and publishers of the orphan works would be a part of constructing the history of this type of music, and therefore something the library should investigate or into which it should encourage investigation. Judy Shoaf, probably insufficiently caffeinated VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case
Still waiting to go out for coffee but TEACH does exempt dramatic works from being covered by its provisions and it is hard to think of anything more dramatic than Shakespeare or the well over a thousand of standard fiction feature films UCLA admits to having streamed. Must get caffeine ( and something sweet and unhealthy to go with it). On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote: Thanks for the precision. I meant that by “whether they can digitize and stream an entire film” but did not even recall that it was only dramatic works that are indicated. Judy *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:07 AM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case Judith, In addition to questions of breaking encryption, streaming to bricks and morter institutions and other issues, TEACH could not possibly cover the titles involved in the UCLA case because they were entire dramatic works which are specifically exempted from TEACH. Jessica ( who also needs coffee) On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote: Thanks, Anthony, for the article about UCLA's Mexican music collection. Re consistent policies... There is a difference between making copyrighted materials available to enrolled students in a password-protected site (which is the film streaming situation) and putting copyrighted material on the web with free availability to anyone at all. The former case involves educational use as defined in the TEACH act (the legal question being whether they can digitize and stream an entire film, and perhaps whether TEACH covers course management systems in courses that have a standard brick-and-mortar classroom component). The publication of the music collection is untenable unless the music is clearly public domain, or the permissions are obtained. Making digital copies of the non-PD Mexican collection requires recourse to Section 108, which restricts use to the library itself. To me it sounds like what they are doing is perfectly adequate for scholars, who would nevertheless have to come to UCLA to study the full collection. On the other hand, it seems to me that researching the original musicians and publishers of the orphan works would be a part of constructing the history of this type of music, and therefore something the library should investigate or into which it should encourage investigation. Judy Shoaf, probably insufficiently caffeinated VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case
For the record, as I mentioned here last week, the TEACH Act doesn't seem to exclude the use of dramatic works if they are being used in reasonable and limited portions and satisfy the other conditions outlined in the law. If there's a lawyer in the house that reads the Act differently please speak up. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: Still waiting to go out for coffee but TEACH does exempt dramatic works from being covered by its provisions and it is hard to think of anything more dramatic than Shakespeare or the well over a thousand of standard fiction feature films UCLA admits to having streamed. Must get caffeine ( and something sweet and unhealthy to go with it). On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote: Thanks for the precision. I meant that by “whether they can digitize and stream an entire film” but did not even recall that it was only dramatic works that are indicated. Judy From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:07 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case Judith, In addition to questions of breaking encryption, streaming to bricks and morter institutions and other issues, TEACH could not possibly cover the titles involved in the UCLA case because they were entire dramatic works which are specifically exempted from TEACH. Jessica ( who also needs coffee) On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote: Thanks, Anthony, for the article about UCLA's Mexican music collection. Re consistent policies... There is a difference between making copyrighted materials available to enrolled students in a password-protected site (which is the film streaming situation) and putting copyrighted material on the web with free availability to anyone at all. The former case involves educational use as defined in the TEACH act (the legal question being whether they can digitize and stream an entire film, and perhaps whether TEACH covers course management systems in courses that have a standard brick-and-mortar classroom component). The publication of the music collection is untenable unless the music is clearly public domain, or the permissions are obtained. Making digital copies of the non-PD Mexican collection requires recourse to Section 108, which restricts use to the library itself. To me it sounds like what they are doing is perfectly adequate for scholars, who would nevertheless have to come to UCLA to study the full collection. On the other hand, it seems to me that researching the original musicians and publishers of the orphan works would be a part of constructing the history of this type of music, and therefore something the library should investigate or into which it should encourage investigation. Judy Shoaf, probably insufficiently caffeinated VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Chris Lewis Media Librarian American University Library 202.885.3257 For latest Media Services News visit our blog at http://aulibmedia.blogspot.com Please think twice before printing this e-mail. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation,
Re: [Videolib] Thanks Jessica
Your welcome guys. I think I should set up donations site. Seriously I am not a filmmaker (or a lawyer), but beyond all the legal issues I know the most disturbing part of seeing academics and academic institutions steal your work is that these are the people you assumed were your friends and supporters. I understand that librarians are under a lot of pressure and try hard and I just assume administration will try to save a buck any way they can, but academics who are pushing the concept of pretty much I need to use it so it is fair (use) are the worst part by far. Good luck trying to pin any of them down on what if any limitations there are on them using material without paying for it. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:42 PM, jgra...@comcast.net wrote: Jessica, I want to add my thanks to Richard's. Joanne --Original Message-- From: rb...@earthlink.net Sender: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu To: Jessica Rosner To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu ReplyTo: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Thanks Jessica Sent: May 31, 2011 3:34 PM Thanks Jessica for speaking up for independent filmmakers and distributors on this UCLA case and on other matters throughout the years. - Richard http://richardcohenfilms.com/hurry_tomorrow_history.html http://richardcohenfilms.com/goodcat.htm VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case
I'm engaging here, not challenging, trying not to be my usual glib self. So, Judy, you're OK with the 50 sec. clip aspect of this collection, I take it, even for non-PD recordings? Those orphans, etc.? The rest of it, including full renditions, is available to legitimate UCLA users, and I imagine anyone who wanted to be working on the material in depth would want to be in the collection itself, as you point out. re: Strachwitz/Frontera. The 50 sec. clip combined with the label views of each record, and the indexing, is compelling for research at a distant. That is a related benefit ... the power of digital ... but I guess not specifically about the legalities of copying, 108 and so forth. Fabulous material comes to light because of a combination of the two ... the technology and the law that might allow it's extension. I guess I WANT to push the legalities a bit on this stuff. I am sitting in a room, listening to a recording, in an archive. Do I need to physically be there to hear it? There was a time when a/v collections allowed users to be downstairs and control playback by knobs -- that was perfectly OK. I refer to legitimate users. Don't we have an analogous situation today, just more sophisticated? I must say, it is ironic that in the article Strachwitz is quoted stating that UCLA is chicken to fully digitize. By the way, based on your recent missives, I suggest the coffee first -- then abundant new thoughts will flow. Randal Baier - Original Message - From: Judith P Shoaf jsh...@ufl.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2011 6:43:28 AM Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case Thanks, Anthony, for the article about UCLA's Mexican music collection. Re consistent policies... There is a difference between making copyrighted materials available to enrolled students in a password-protected site (which is the film streaming situation) and putting copyrighted material on the web with free availability to anyone at all. The former case involves educational use as defined in the TEACH act (the legal question being whether they can digitize and stream an entire film, and perhaps whether TEACH covers course management systems in courses that have a standard brick-and-mortar classroom component). The publication of the music collection is untenable unless the music is clearly public domain, or the permissions are obtained. Making digital copies of the non-PD Mexican collection requires recourse to Section 108, which restricts use to the library itself. To me it sounds like what they are doing is perfectly adequate for scholars, who would nevertheless have to come to UCLA to study the full collection. On the other hand, it seems to me that researching the original musicians and publishers of the orphan works would be a part of constructing the history of this type of music, and therefore something the library should investigate or into which it should encourage investigation. Judy Shoaf, probably insufficiently caffeinated VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Thanks Jessica
I propose we chill on this issue for awhile and get on with other pressing issues (at least until the case comes to more definite conclusions) By way of last words on the subject (for now), I humbly (well, maybe not) submit that the UCLA case points precisely and very cogently to the difficulties that can result when libraries and other institutions lack knowledgeable, experienced professional specialists on board to serve as gate-keepers and collection development shepherds for specialized collections. It also points to what happens when administrators (and faculty)get embroiled in practical and professional issues with which they have superficial (and often gapingly inaccurate) information and experience. Gary Handman Your welcome guys. I think I should set up donations site. Seriously I am not a filmmaker (or a lawyer), but beyond all the legal issues I know the most disturbing part of seeing academics and academic institutions steal your work is that these are the people you assumed were your friends and supporters. I understand that librarians are under a lot of pressure and try hard and I just assume administration will try to save a buck any way they can, but academics who are pushing the concept of pretty much I need to use it so it is fair (use) are the worst part by far. Good luck trying to pin any of them down on what if any limitations there are on them using material without paying for it. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:42 PM, jgra...@comcast.net wrote: Jessica, I want to add my thanks to Richard's. Joanne --Original Message-- From: rb...@earthlink.net Sender: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu To: Jessica Rosner To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu ReplyTo: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Thanks Jessica Sent: May 31, 2011 3:34 PM Thanks Jessica for speaking up for independent filmmakers and distributors on this UCLA case and on other matters throughout the years. - Richard http://richardcohenfilms.com/hurry_tomorrow_history.html http://richardcohenfilms.com/goodcat.htm VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA case
All, While I appreciate and respect everyone's right to say what they like on the videolib listserv, can I request that we temper the language to avoid further comments suggesting that the librarians and academics here at UCLA are nothing more than thieves? I am one of those librarians and academics, and we are not intentionally or maliciously out to steal any and all content, regardless of contracts, agreements or law. This is not something we take lightly. Discussions about this case should not include personal attacks. Thank you. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edu - VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA case
I am not attacking individuals but I think the actions and attitudes of UCLA ( and others) speak for themselves. Obviously I know even more than I can post and if I could I know it would make some people on this list even angrier. I understand UCLA personal are somewhat constrained on what they can say, but I would like to know if you agree that streaming entire feature works to students on and off campus even as part of course is ethical ( forgetting legal) and I really wish someone who agrees with this view would explain why it is different from doing the same with a novel, textbook, etc. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Brown, Roger rbr...@oid.ucla.edu wrote: All, While I appreciate and respect everyone's right to say what they like on the videolib listserv, can I request that we temper the language to avoid further comments suggesting that the librarians and academics here at UCLA are nothing more than thieves? I am one of those librarians and academics, and we are not intentionally or maliciously out to steal any and all content, regardless of contracts, agreements or law. This is not something we take lightly. Discussions about this case should not include personal attacks. Thank you. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edu - VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Early Bird registration ends today!
Register Now - Pay Later! Don't miss the 33rd National Media Market October 16-20, 2011 in Las Vegas, Nevada! Today is the last day to take advantage of the Early Bird registration fee of $105, which includes the full conference - luncheons, receptions, program guide, and professional development workshops. For detailed information, please visit our website www.nmm.net or contact me at (520) 743-7735. Ursula Schwarz National Media Market P.O. Box 87410 Tucson, AZ 85754-7410 (520) 743-7735 http://www.nmm.net/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] At the Death House Door
Our copy was also defective so our technician tweeted Kartemquin and got an immediate reply that this was news to them but also a promise that a fully-functioning replacement would be sent quickly. The contact was t...@kartemquin.com On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Meghann Matwichuk mtw...@udel.edu wrote: Good catch, John -- I just pulled our copy of At the Death House Door from the shelf, and noticed the same problem. It happens at 22:35, just before the start of Chapter 7. If their entire batch was replicated with this same problem, I'm guessing Kartemquin has a small nightmare on their hands. I plan on emailing the contact listed here for Distribution and Sales to see what I can learn about getting a working copy: http://www.kartemquin.com/contact/info Christine, re: your Northern Exposure problem -- I can't offer any feedback on that particular title, but we did have the same problem with disc 1 of Justified -- returned after one circ; the disc stopped just a few minutes into the first chapter of the first episode. Buffed it up; no go. Blehhh. Best, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ On 5/27/2011 3:21 PM, CROWLEY, CHRISTINE wrote: *Somewhat related problem. I have purchased four seasons of “Northern Exposure” as a gift for boyfriend. We are in Season Three and discovered that two episodes on a brand new disc are damaged, apparently, and just freeze. You can hear the blu-ray machine grinding away. The rest of the disc is fine. We tried buffing but to no avail. I am wondering if a single disc in a set is able to be returned for replacement. Has anyone else had this experience?* * * *Christine Crowley* Dean of Learning Resources *Northwest Vista College* 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 voice | 210.486.4504 fax *PLEASE NOTE: I AM RETIRING AS OF AUG. 19, 2011* *NEW LIBRARY CONTACT INFO UPON REQUEST* * * “A sense of humor is part of the art of leadership, of getting along with people, of getting things donehttp://thinkexist.com/quotation/a_sense_of_humor_is_part_of_the_art_of_leadership/159947.html”--Dwight David Eisenhower * * *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [ mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.eduvideolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Streepy *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2011 1:41 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* [Videolib] At the Death House Door Hello All Our copy of At the Death House Door (ISBN 1-56580-849-5) stops about 20 minutes into the program and goes back to the menu. If you start the movie from the scene select window it works fine. We sent it back to Amazon and they sent us a new copy which did the EXACT same thing. I am wondering if this happened to any one else? If it did, and you kept the DVD, how did you label the container to make sure people knew how to access the material? Thanks in advance and hope everyone has a fantastic weekend. regards jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Chris Lewis Media Librarian American University Library 202.885.3257 For latest Media Services News visit our blog at http://aulibmedia.blogspot.com Please think twice before printing this e-mail. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that
Re: [Videolib] UCLA case
Since I have not read all the legal pleadings, it would be helpful if someone from UCLA could post a response to this list explaining exactly what they did do (and I am new to the list so I apologize if this was done before). It would be helpful to hear from someone at UCLA describe what they streamed and how they did it (did they use a proxy server so all students on campus have access and from home or just for specific courses through course management software? Did they stream titles in which they had paid for public performance rights or feature films? How many films did they stream?). Others on this list have made factual statements about what UCLA did, but I don't think I've heard from anyone at UCLA say what they did. Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: 06/01/2011 09:34 AM Subject:Re: [Videolib] UCLA case Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu I am not attacking individuals but I think the actions and attitudes of UCLA ( and others) speak for themselves. Obviously I know even more than I can post and if I could I know it would make some people on this list even angrier. I understand UCLA personal are somewhat constrained on what they can say, but I would like to know if you agree that streaming entire feature works to students on and off campus even as part of course is ethical ( forgetting legal) and I really wish someone who agrees with this view would explain why it is different from doing the same with a novel, textbook, etc. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Brown, Roger rbr...@oid.ucla.edu wrote: All, While I appreciate and respect everyone's right to say what they like on the videolib listserv, can I request that we temper the language to avoid further comments suggesting that the librarians and academics here at UCLA are nothing more than thieves? I am one of those librarians and academics, and we are not intentionally or maliciously out to steal any and all content, regardless of contracts, agreements or law. This is not something we take lightly. Discussions about this case should not include personal attacks. Thank you. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edu - VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Looking for Marguerite Duras video
Hi All, I've had such good fortune lately with help finding videos from this list, let's see what we can do with this plea for help. I'm looking for La Musica (1966 or 1967) by Marguerite Duras. On FNAC.com I see a copy of India Song that says the disc includes bonus material but I can't figure out what. Does anyone know if it's La Musica? Matt Ball Media and Collections Librarian University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 mattb...@virginia.eduhttps://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be4c37bdfc2dcf42URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edu | 434-924-3812 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA case
Hey I am all for that. I think some of their documents are on the AIME site.I can tell for a fact that 99% of the films they streamed did not have Public Performance Rights. Again the list of films they admitted to streaming as of over a year ago was in the 1700 range and included tons of Hollywood feature films, Foreign Films, Classic films and educational documentaries. They did not specifically indicate if they had streamed all those films in their entirety, but their claim was they had the right to and had clearly done it. I would really love to hear someone from UCLA talk about the list of films and how they did it. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:34 PM, matthew.wri...@unlv.edu wrote: Since I have not read all the legal pleadings, it would be helpful if someone from UCLA could post a response to this list explaining exactly what they did do (and I am new to the list so I apologize if this was done before). It would be helpful to hear from someone at UCLA describe what they streamed and how they did it (did they use a proxy server so all students on campus have access and from home or just for specific courses through course management software? Did they stream titles in which they had paid for public performance rights or feature films? How many films did they stream?). Others on this list have made factual statements about what UCLA did, but I don't think I've heard from anyone at UCLA say what they did. Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) From:Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com To:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date:06/01/2011 09:34 AM Subject:Re: [Videolib] UCLA case Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu -- I am not attacking individuals but I think the actions and attitudes of UCLA ( and others) speak for themselves. Obviously I know even more than I can post and if I could I know it would make some people on this list even angrier. I understand UCLA personal are somewhat constrained on what they can say, but I would like to know if you agree that streaming entire feature works to students on and off campus even as part of course is ethical ( forgetting legal) and I really wish someone who agrees with this view would explain why it is different from doing the same with a novel, textbook, etc. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Brown, Roger *rbr...@oid.ucla.edu*rbr...@oid.ucla.edu wrote: All, While I appreciate and respect everyone's right to say what they like on the videolib listserv, can I request that we temper the language to avoid further comments suggesting that the librarians and academics here at UCLA are nothing more than thieves? I am one of those librarians and academics, and we are not intentionally or maliciously out to steal any and all content, regardless of contracts, agreements or law. This is not something we take lightly. Discussions about this case should not include personal attacks. Thank you. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: *310-206-1248* 310-206-1248 fax: *310-206-5392* 310-206-5392* **rbr...@oid.ucla.edu* rbr...@oid.ucla.edu - VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line)* **jessicapros...@gmail.com* jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
Re: [Videolib] At the Death House Door
I received a phone call from Jacinta Banks at Kartemquin shortly after sending her an email, and was told that a new / corrected version would be on its way soon. It did sound like this is the first they'd been aware of the problem (she asked a number of questions -- where we'd purchased it from, how long ago, etc.) -- my guess is that it was a bad batch. It is nice that they are so responsive -- if the disc is indeed on it's way, then I'm really impressed. I've not had such a swift response from any other vendors / distributors of 'problem' discs. Best, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 tel:%28302%29%20831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ On 6/1/2011 1:31 PM, Chris Lewis wrote: Our copy was also defective so our technician tweeted Kartemquin and got an immediate reply that this was news to them but also a promise that a fully-functioning replacement would be sent quickly. The contact was t...@kartemquin.com mailto:t...@kartemquin.com On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Meghann Matwichuk mtw...@udel.edu mailto:mtw...@udel.edu wrote: Good catch, John -- I just pulled our copy of At the Death House Door from the shelf, and noticed the same problem. It happens at 22:35, just before the start of Chapter 7. If their entire batch was replicated with this same problem, I'm guessing Kartemquin has a small nightmare on their hands. I plan on emailing the contact listed here for Distribution and Sales to see what I can learn about getting a working copy: http://www.kartemquin.com/contact/info Christine, re: your Northern Exposure problem -- I can't offer any feedback on that particular title, but we did have the same problem with disc 1 of Justified -- returned after one circ; the disc stopped just a few minutes into the first chapter of the first episode. Buffed it up; no go. Blehhh. Best, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 tel:%28302%29%20831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ On 5/27/2011 3:21 PM, CROWLEY, CHRISTINE wrote: *Somewhat related problem. I have purchased four seasons of “Northern Exposure” as a gift for boyfriend. We are in Season Three and discovered that two episodes on a brand new disc are damaged, apparently, and just freeze. You can hear the blu-ray machine grinding away. The rest of the disc is fine. We tried buffing but to no avail. I am wondering if a single disc in a set is able to be returned for replacement. Has anyone else had this experience?* * * *Christine Crowley* Dean of Learning Resources *Northwest Vista College* 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 tel:210.486.4572 voice | 210.486.4504 tel:210.486.4504 fax *PLEASE NOTE: I AM RETIRING AS OF AUG. 19, 2011* *NEW LIBRARY CONTACT INFO UPON REQUEST* * * “A sense of humor is part of the art of leadership, of getting along with people, of getting things done http://thinkexist.com/quotation/a_sense_of_humor_is_part_of_the_art_of_leadership/159947.html”--Dwight David Eisenhower * * *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Streepy *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2011 1:41 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* [Videolib] At the Death House Door Hello All Our copy of At the Death House Door (ISBN 1-56580-849-5) stops about 20 minutes into the program and goes back to the menu. If you start the movie from the scene select window it works fine. We sent it back to Amazon and they sent us a new copy which did the EXACT same thing. I am wondering if this happened to any one else? If it did, and you kept the DVD, how did you label the container to make sure people knew how to access the material? Thanks in advance and hope everyone has a fantastic weekend. regards jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 tel:%28509%29%C2%A0963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the
Re: [Videolib] UCLA case
I wouldn't count on hearing on the record about this from anyone at UCLA for a very long time, if ever. The general policy of most institutions is not to comment on ongoing litigation. That usually means until the appeals process is exhausted. Jana Atkins, B.M., M.L.S. Performing Arts/Multimedia Librarian University of Central Oklahoma Max Chambers Library 100 N. University Edmond, OK 73034 405-974-2949 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:44 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA case Hey I am all for that. I think some of their documents are on the AIME site.I can tell for a fact that 99% of the films they streamed did not have Public Performance Rights. Again the list of films they admitted to streaming as of over a year ago was in the 1700 range and included tons of Hollywood feature films, Foreign Films, Classic films and educational documentaries. They did not specifically indicate if they had streamed all those films in their entirety, but their claim was they had the right to and had clearly done it. I would really love to hear someone from UCLA talk about the list of films and how they did it. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:34 PM, matthew.wri...@unlv.edumailto:matthew.wri...@unlv.edu wrote: Since I have not read all the legal pleadings, it would be helpful if someone from UCLA could post a response to this list explaining exactly what they did do (and I am new to the list so I apologize if this was done before). It would be helpful to hear from someone at UCLA describe what they streamed and how they did it (did they use a proxy server so all students on campus have access and from home or just for specific courses through course management software? Did they stream titles in which they had paid for public performance rights or feature films? How many films did they stream?). Others on this list have made factual statements about what UCLA did, but I don't think I've heard from anyone at UCLA say what they did. Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409tel:%28702%29%20895-2409; (702) 895-2410tel:%28702%29%20895-2410 (fax) From:Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.commailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com To:videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date:06/01/2011 09:34 AM Subject:Re: [Videolib] UCLA case Sent by: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu I am not attacking individuals but I think the actions and attitudes of UCLA ( and others) speak for themselves. Obviously I know even more than I can post and if I could I know it would make some people on this list even angrier. I understand UCLA personal are somewhat constrained on what they can say, but I would like to know if you agree that streaming entire feature works to students on and off campus even as part of course is ethical ( forgetting legal) and I really wish someone who agrees with this view would explain why it is different from doing the same with a novel, textbook, etc. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Brown, Roger rbr...@oid.ucla.edumailto:rbr...@oid.ucla.edu wrote: All, While I appreciate and respect everyone's right to say what they like on the videolib listserv, can I request that we temper the language to avoid further comments suggesting that the librarians and academics here at UCLA are nothing more than thieves? I am one of those librarians and academics, and we are not intentionally or maliciously out to steal any and all content, regardless of contracts, agreements or law. This is not something we take lightly. Discussions about this case should not include personal attacks. Thank you. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248tel:310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392tel:310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edumailto:rbr...@oid.ucla.edu - VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897tel:224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785tel:212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.commailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the
Re: [Videolib] UCLA case
Well their positions as well as the films they admitted streaming are a matter of public record. For those of you who want to see the list of films they admitted to streaming. go to the AIME documents and see the filing exhibits 1-3 dated March 22 of last year. I can see maybe 5% that MIGHT have had PPR rights but as I have said the majority are fiction feature films from studios and small art distributors. More than a few are from companies long out of business , who never even released films on DVD and whose rights on the films expired up to 20 years ago. I would also point out that some of educational films came with a specific prohibition on streaming ( and other things) at the time of purchase. http://www.aime.org/news.php On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jana Atkins jatki...@uco.edu wrote: I wouldn’t count on hearing on the record about this from anyone at UCLA for a very long time, if ever. The general policy of most institutions is not to comment on ongoing litigation. That usually means until the appeals process is exhausted. Jana Atkins, B.M., M.L.S. Performing Arts/Multimedia Librarian University of Central Oklahoma Max Chambers Library 100 N. University Edmond, OK 73034 405-974-2949 *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:44 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] UCLA case Hey I am all for that. I think some of their documents are on the AIME site.I can tell for a fact that 99% of the films they streamed did not have Public Performance Rights. Again the list of films they admitted to streaming as of over a year ago was in the 1700 range and included tons of Hollywood feature films, Foreign Films, Classic films and educational documentaries. They did not specifically indicate if they had streamed all those films in their entirety, but their claim was they had the right to and had clearly done it. I would really love to hear someone from UCLA talk about the list of films and how they did it. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:34 PM, matthew.wri...@unlv.edu wrote: Since I have not read all the legal pleadings, it would be helpful if someone from UCLA could post a response to this list explaining exactly what they did do (and I am new to the list so I apologize if this was done before). It would be helpful to hear from someone at UCLA describe what they streamed and how they did it (did they use a proxy server so all students on campus have access and from home or just for specific courses through course management software? Did they stream titles in which they had paid for public performance rights or feature films? How many films did they stream?). Others on this list have made factual statements about what UCLA did, but I don't think I've heard from anyone at UCLA say what they did. Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) From:Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com To:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date:06/01/2011 09:34 AM Subject:Re: [Videolib] UCLA case Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu -- I am not attacking individuals but I think the actions and attitudes of UCLA ( and others) speak for themselves. Obviously I know even more than I can post and if I could I know it would make some people on this list even angrier. I understand UCLA personal are somewhat constrained on what they can say, but I would like to know if you agree that streaming entire feature works to students on and off campus even as part of course is ethical ( forgetting legal) and I really wish someone who agrees with this view would explain why it is different from doing the same with a novel, textbook, etc. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Brown, Roger rbr...@oid.ucla.edu wrote: All, While I appreciate and respect everyone's right to say what they like on the videolib listserv, can I request that we temper the language to avoid further comments suggesting that the librarians and academics here at UCLA are nothing more than thieves? I am one of those librarians and academics, and we are not intentionally or maliciously out to steal any and all content, regardless of contracts, agreements or law. This is not something we take lightly. Discussions about this case should not include personal attacks. Thank you. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392* *rbr...@oid.ucla.edu - VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection,
Re: [Videolib] UCLA case
Folks, My apologies Jessica and Matthew... BUT! As much as I agree that I'd love to hear UCLA's side and castigate them for their unholy views (my mind wanders to the interview of Lars von Trier on the subject of Adolph Hitler and Albert Speers) of fair use of entire feature films, I caution anyone who suggests someone else should talk about an on-going lawsuit that their institution is facing. Getting a person fired should not be our goal. And Roger, I'm joking in my sentence above, but any distributor is very touchy about the legality of migrating materials (especially with CSS and/or copyright protection) across different platforms without proper authorization from the copyright holder. And until the courts or the copyright office specifically allows this migration of entire films beyond the boundaries of fair use established by prior court cases, theft is actually the legal term the US Copyright law uses in terms of improper digital duplication of an artists' material. It's totally and ugly term and I would never call anyone a thief unless they broke into my house (good luck getting by the hounds of hell) or stole my car, but the internet age has redefined intellectual theft to a level never seen before in history. (Though Mark Twain and Charles Dickens lost a ton of money from unauthorized editions.) It's not for nothing the most popular illegal download site was called Pirate's Bay. And it's not just Warner Brothers or Sony losing huge amounts of money by IP theft. It's a lot of people on this listserv. As a Board of Director of AMIA who represents the studios, archives, libraries and academics, the organization has specifically avoided copyright issues such as these. But it does allow me to hear from all sides of the argument. What the US really needs is a clearing house for use of all materials from copyright holders, royalty fees for this usage (whether its a dollar for students or a million dollars from Microsoft) and government support of distribution (which many countries have extensive support such as France). But until then, I don't think it's personal but the feelings are pretty heated. -- Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128 Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 Fax: 201-767-3035 email: milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com www.ontheboweryfilm.com www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com http://www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Austin 2011: www.amianet.org Join Milestone Film on Facebook! Follow Milestone on Twitter! http://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case
Hi, A link to the press release explaining UCLA's official position can be seen here: http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/campus-to-re-start-streaming-of-15 4601.aspx Legal discussions of various aspects of the case can be found online from Educause to Techdirt to the Sloan Consortium, as well as AIME's site. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edu Message: 2 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:43:43 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA case To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: BANLkTin76Q1tE6Hgv=sf0zz1pftjqf4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey I am all for that. I think some of their documents are on the AIME site.I can tell for a fact that 99% of the films they streamed did not have Public Performance Rights. Again the list of films they admitted to streaming as of over a year ago was in the 1700 range and included tons of Hollywood feature films, Foreign Films, Classic films and educational documentaries. They did not specifically indicate if they had streamed all those films in their entirety, but their claim was they had the right to and had clearly done it. I would really love to hear someone from UCLA talk about the list of films and how they did it. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:34 PM, matthew.wri...@unlv.edu wrote: Since I have not read all the legal pleadings, it would be helpful if someone from UCLA could post a response to this list explaining exactly what they did do (and I am new to the list so I apologize if this was done before). It would be helpful to hear from someone at UCLA describe what they streamed and how they did it (did they use a proxy server so all students on campus have access and from home or just for specific courses through course management software? Did they stream titles in which they had paid for public performance rights or feature films? How many films did they stream?). Others on this list have made factual statements about what UCLA did, but I don't think I've heard from anyone at UCLA say what they did. Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA Case
That link to UCLA's news is incorrect. This should do it: http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/campus-to-re-start-streaming-of-154601.aspx Brown, Roger wrote: Hi, A link to the press release explaining UCLA's official position can be seen here: http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/campus-to-re-start-streaming-of-15 4601.aspx Legal discussions of various aspects of the case can be found online from Educause to Techdirt to the Sloan Consortium, as well as AIME's site. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edu Message: 2 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:43:43 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] UCLA case To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: BANLkTin76Q1tE6Hgv=sf0zz1pftjqf4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey I am all for that. I think some of their documents are on the AIME site.I can tell for a fact that 99% of the films they streamed did not have Public Performance Rights. Again the list of films they admitted to streaming as of over a year ago was in the 1700 range and included tons of Hollywood feature films, Foreign Films, Classic films and educational documentaries. They did not specifically indicate if they had streamed all those films in their entirety, but their claim was they had the right to and had clearly done it. I would really love to hear someone from UCLA talk about the list of films and how they did it. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:34 PM, matthew.wri...@unlv.edu wrote: Since I have not read all the legal pleadings, it would be helpful if someone from UCLA could post a response to this list explaining exactly what they did do (and I am new to the list so I apologize if this was done before). It would be helpful to hear from someone at UCLA describe what they streamed and how they did it (did they use a proxy server so all students on campus have access and from home or just for specific courses through course management software? Did they stream titles in which they had paid for public performance rights or feature films? How many films did they stream?). Others on this list have made factual statements about what UCLA did, but I don't think I've heard from anyone at UCLA say what they did. Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Susan Weber, Librarian Langara College, 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, B.C. V5Y 2Z6 Tel. 604-323-5533 email: swe...@langara.bc.ca VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] UCLA case
OK...I think this would be extremely ill-advised, The case is being litigated in the courts; I'm in no mood to have it pleaded on this list. As I said in my last post, I think we need to move on and wait (rather than snipe and endlessly conjecture) Gary Since I have not read all the legal pleadings, it would be helpful if someone from UCLA could post a response to this list explaining exactly what they did do (and I am new to the list so I apologize if this was done before). It would be helpful to hear from someone at UCLA describe what they streamed and how they did it (did they use a proxy server so all students on campus have access and from home or just for specific courses through course management software? Did they stream titles in which they had paid for public performance rights or feature films? How many films did they stream?). Others on this list have made factual statements about what UCLA did, but I don't think I've heard from anyone at UCLA say what they did. Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: 06/01/2011 09:34 AM Subject:Re: [Videolib] UCLA case Sent by:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu I am not attacking individuals but I think the actions and attitudes of UCLA ( and others) speak for themselves. Obviously I know even more than I can post and if I could I know it would make some people on this list even angrier. I understand UCLA personal are somewhat constrained on what they can say, but I would like to know if you agree that streaming entire feature works to students on and off campus even as part of course is ethical ( forgetting legal) and I really wish someone who agrees with this view would explain why it is different from doing the same with a novel, textbook, etc. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Brown, Roger rbr...@oid.ucla.edu wrote: All, While I appreciate and respect everyone's right to say what they like on the videolib listserv, can I request that we temper the language to avoid further comments suggesting that the librarians and academics here at UCLA are nothing more than thieves? I am one of those librarians and academics, and we are not intentionally or maliciously out to steal any and all content, regardless of contracts, agreements or law. This is not something we take lightly. Discussions about this case should not include personal attacks. Thank you. - - Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edu - VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as
[Videolib] And now for something completely different!
Unless I have my dates wrong... today would have been Marilyn Monroe's 85th birthday. Often imitated, never duplicated... she remains an film icon. Spared the horror of ever appearing on Love Boat, Fantasy Island, or a Disney Film... Favorite films? Favorite lines? Why do they always look like hungry rabbits? - All About Eve -deg deg farrelly, Media Librarian Arizona State University P.O. Box 871006 Tempe, Arizona 85287 480.965.1403 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] And now for something completely different!
Hey, thanks for pointing that out. My two favorites of the films she starred in are Gentlemen Prefer Blondeshttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_B36eowsY2qc/TBmR4137MLI/A-A/Dy5-0Zios1c/s400/gentlemen_prefer_blondes_1953.jpg and The Misfitshttp://pics.filmaffinity.com/The_Misfits-276481496-large.jpg . Quote — Don't you know that a man being rich is like a girl being pretty? You wouldn't marry a girl just because she's pretty, but my goodness, doesn't it help? — Marilyn Monroe as Lorelei Lee in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes _ Alex O. Williams Institutional Sales AFD / Typecast Films Seattle, WA . USA ph: 206.322.0882 x.202 | fx: 206.322.4586 arabfilm.com | typecastfilms.com On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu wrote: Unless I have my dates wrong... today would have been Marilyn Monroe's 85th birthday. Often imitated, never duplicated... she remains an film icon. Spared the horror of ever appearing on Love Boat, Fantasy Island, or a Disney Film... Favorite films? Favorite lines? Why do they always look like hungry rabbits? - All About Eve -deg deg farrelly, Media Librarian Arizona State University P.O. Box 871006 Tempe, Arizona 85287 480.965.1403 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] media storage
We are beginning a renovation and expansion of our library and are at the point where we are discussing with our architect storage for our various media - DVDs (the collection is still growing), VHS (the collection is shrinking rapidly), CDs (music and spoken word, not growing, and perhaps shrinking in size a bit), and some audiocassettes that I can't convince faculty to give up. If you were choosing shelving or cabinets for these materials, what would you select? Currently, our media collection is accessible to browsers. VHS and DVDs are stored on shelves; CDs in a cabinet, with overflow on a shelf, along with the audiotapes, next to the cabinet. The DVDs remain in their original cases, a practice we started about 4 years ago and one that increased use of them. Before that, we placed all DVDs in plain black plastic cases. VHS are in plain blue plastic cases. The CDs are little used, except for the ones on the shelves. We want to make the collection as visible to our patrons as we can. If collection size matters, we have about 3000 DVDs, 750 VHS tapes, 1200 CDs, and 50 audiotape sets. We see this as an opportunity to market our collection better, so want to make the right decision for storage. Many thanks for your suggestions!!! Cynthia Steinhoff Anne Arundel Community College Arnold, MD VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
