Re: [Videolib] New Library Learning Commons and Media closed reserves
Antonella, Viewing stations - whether it's using an old-fashioned monitor or a new-fangled computer -- are perfectly legal and a fairly common setup in libraries. Well, common except for the snacks. A student is sitting in the Commons watching on a computer with headphones does not turn it into a public performance. Hopefully I'll get down to Angelo again soon to see the new Commons. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] New Library Learning Commons and Media closed reserves
Kind Videolib-L folks, I have what I think is an interesting question for you this morning. Apologies if this issue has been discussed ad nauseam before. I have not searched the list archives for possible answers to this dilemma. I oversee the Media collection in our library, and we have recently opened the doors to our new Learning Commons, equipped with the latest and greatest technology we could afford. Our Learning Commons consist of a wide open space, with couches, chairs, computers, tables, nooks, and plenty of 40-inch wide screen monitors. A faculty member recently placed a couple of our DVDs on closed reserve, and asked if his students could watch them on one of the monitors in our Learning Commons (where the seating is more comfortable, and they could grab a snack from our café with the movie). Before we had a Learning Commons, use of our Media closed reserves was limited to the Media area, where we have a dedicated viewing room with all the necessary equipment. Would we be in violation of copyright laws if we allowed our students to watch our closed reserves in the Learning Commons instead of our Media viewing room? I look forward to your thoughts on this matter. Respectfully, [cid:image001.gif@01CBB315.2AF73400] Antonella Ward Multimedia Support Librarian/Porter Henderson Library Angelo State University Member, Texas Tech University System ASU Station #11013 San Angelo, TX 76909-1013 Phone: (325) 942-2313 Fax: (325) 942-2198 antonella.w...@angelo.edumailto:antonella.w...@angelo.edu Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it. (Samuel Johnson) inline: image001.gifVIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] New Library Learning Commons and Media closed reserves
Dear Anotella, Answering the specific question: if the professor is present and the screening can *only* be seen by the students in the class, I don't see a problem. But if it's open space for everybody and/or he's off downing jello shots, it does violate PPR. *If* it's film studies or any feature film and forgive me for the following, for this is a criticism of the teacher and not you: * * What kind of *^#%$ teacher (and this is why I suggest you should check his alcohol levels) shows film in an open space where there's continuous noise interruptions and temptations of pizza and coffee from the cafe??? What kind of film experience needs comfy chairs? (a Monty Python reference, by the way.) Cinema, like any art, has the ability to change lives, but it's a lot tougher when somebody's shouting across the room to get them a latte or toss them a book. Was Kane's dying words, Earbuds? Did Rhett Butler actually say, Frank, my dear, let's go to Birmingham? Films should be seen in a dark room and the only sound should be coming from the speakers. Trust me, Martin Scorsese's screening room does not have a wet bar. So, the answer is no, for so many, many reasons. Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128 Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 Fax: 201-767-3035 email: milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com www.ontheboweryfilm.com www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Austin 2011: www.amianet.org Join Milestone Film on Facebook! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Antonella Ward antonella.w...@angelo.eduwrote: Kind Videolib-L folks, I have what I think is an interesting question for you this morning. Apologies if this issue has been discussed ad nauseam before. I have not searched the list archives for possible answers to this dilemma. I oversee the Media collection in our library, and we have recently opened the doors to our new Learning Commons, equipped with the latest and greatest technology we could afford. Our Learning Commons consist of a wide open space, with couches, chairs, computers, tables, nooks, and plenty of 40-inch wide screen monitors. A faculty member recently placed a couple of our DVDs on closed reserve, and asked if his students could watch them on one of the monitors in our Learning Commons (where the seating is more comfortable, and they could grab a snack from our café with the movie). Before we had a Learning Commons, use of our Media closed reserves was limited to the Media area, where we have a dedicated viewing room with all the necessary equipment. Would we be in violation of copyright laws if we allowed our students to watch our closed reserves in the Learning Commons instead of our Media viewing room? I look forward to your thoughts on this matter. Respectfully, [image: Description: cid:image001.gif@01C9CD63.2D528950]** * * *Antonella Ward* *Multimedia Support Librarian/Porter Henderson Library* Angelo State University Member, Texas Tech University System ASU Station #11013 San Angelo, TX 76909-1013 Phone: (325) 942-2313 Fax: (325) 942-2198 *antonella.w...@angelo.edu* Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it. *(Samuel Johnson)* VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] New Library Learning Commons and Media closed reserves
Dear Antonella, I wouldn't consider it a violation then. Dennis On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Antonella Ward antonella.w...@angelo.eduwrote: Hello Dennis, Thank you so much for your thoughts. In rereading my message, I realize I may not have been clear about the checking out of our Media closed reserves. The students are not expected to come in bunches to the library to watch these DVDs. When an item is placed on closed reserve in our library, we allow one student at a time to check them out (the professor at this point is nowhere in the picture). Prior to the addition of our Learning Commons, there was only one place equipped for students to watch our Media closed reserve DVDs, and that was our viewing room. There have been instances where two or three students showed up at the same time, wanting to watch a DVD on closed reserve, and we’ve never turned them away (if that’s when they are available to watch the item on reserve for their class assignment, then that’s when they are going to have access to it). In the new environment, we would still check out the item to one student, and require then to use headphone, which we would also provide and check out to them. Would you still consider this scenario a violation of copyright law? Thanks, *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Doros *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:08 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] New Library Learning Commons and Media closed reserves Dear Anotella, Answering the specific question: if the professor is present and the screening can *only* be seen by the students in the class, I don't see a problem. But if it's open space for everybody and/or he's off downing jello shots, it does violate PPR. *If* it's film studies or any feature film and forgive me for the following, for this is a criticism of the teacher and not you: What kind of *^#%$ teacher (and this is why I suggest you should check his alcohol levels) shows film in an open space where there's continuous noise interruptions and temptations of pizza and coffee from the cafe??? What kind of film experience needs comfy chairs? (a Monty Python reference, by the way.) Cinema, like any art, has the ability to change lives, but it's a lot tougher when somebody's shouting across the room to get them a latte or toss them a book. Was Kane's dying words, Earbuds? Did Rhett Butler actually say, Frank, my dear, let's go to Birmingham? Films should be seen in a dark room and the only sound should be coming from the speakers. Trust me, Martin Scorsese's screening room does not have a wet bar. So, the answer is no, for so many, many reasons. Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128 Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 Fax: 201-767-3035 email: milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com www.ontheboweryfilm.com www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Austin 2011: www.amianet.org Join Milestone Film on Facebook! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Antonella Ward antonella.w...@angelo.edu wrote: Kind Videolib-L folks, I have what I think is an interesting question for you this morning. Apologies if this issue has been discussed ad nauseam before. I have not searched the list archives for possible answers to this dilemma. I oversee the Media collection in our library, and we have recently opened the doors to our new Learning Commons, equipped with the latest and greatest technology we could afford. Our Learning Commons consist of a wide open space, with couches, chairs, computers, tables, nooks, and plenty of 40-inch wide screen monitors. A faculty member recently placed a couple of our DVDs on closed reserve, and asked if his students could watch them on one of the monitors in our Learning Commons (where the seating is more comfortable, and they could grab a snack from our café with the movie). Before we had a Learning Commons, use of our Media closed reserves was limited to the Media area, where we have a dedicated viewing room with all the necessary equipment. Would we be in violation of copyright laws if we allowed our students to watch our closed reserves in the Learning Commons instead of our Media viewing room? I look forward to your thoughts on this matter. Respectfully, [image: Description: cid:image001.gif@01C9CD63.2D528950] * * *Antonella Ward* *Multimedia Support Librarian/Porter Henderson Library* Angelo State University Member, Texas Tech University System ASU Station #11013 San Angelo, TX 76909-1013 Phone: (325) 942-2313 Fax: (325) 942-2198 *antonella.w...@angelo.edu* Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon
Re: [Videolib] New Library Learning Commons and Media closed reserves
Dear Steven, Actually, my job is to analyze shots, sound, etc. I first have to see them as a whole but then for months I have to look at films frame by frame down to the dust and scratch marks and though I may have trouble recognizing Bette Davis, I'm very good at guessing who the cinematographer is by just watching a scene. That's my lunacy. But my success in my job as an archivist is because I'm watching it in a quiet, dark room, except for when the beagles see a dog walking by the house. I can always tell the students who have a key to the projection room and watch films over and over again. We may marry later in life (and that's becoming an outdated stereotype with the generation after me) but we know film. As for Scorsese, he's definitely New York and only New York. Your image of Hollywood can safely be kept alive, though I don't have the experience to prove or disprove. Dennis On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Milewski, Steven smile...@utk.edu wrote: I’m going to throw my hat in the ring and disagree on some on the points below, and I’m not trying to pick on Dennis If the set-up in the commons has the screen pointed away from the masses (or in an alcove) and/or the student is listening to it in such a way that the sound is not broadcast (earphones) then it is not “open to the public”. A viewing session by a patron should not have to be in a hermetically sealed mayonnaise jar. “Films should be seen in the dark and the only sound should be coming from the speakers” - Students are not always seeking a “film experience” when they are watching a film (even a feature film) particularly for a film studies class. They are often analyzing the shots, use of lighting, comparing scenes, sound effects, etc. They are doing this because it is going to be required in a report, paper or test, not because they choose to relax and enjoy this particular video. Note taking and writing often accompany it with its required light(and yes sometimes coffee). I will say that doing this in a commons environment wouldn’t be my particular first choice. I don’t know the details of the “closed reserve” that Anotella is talking about – I’m assuming they are library copies not personal copies. I am also a little disappointed to hear about Scorsese’s lack of a wet bar. Not because I would approve (or disapprove), but because I have a certain image of Hollywood. Steven Steven Milewski Digital Media Technologies Librarian Hodges Library Integrated User Services 865 - 974 - 2647 smile...@utk.edu *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Doros *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:08 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] New Library Learning Commons and Media closed reserves Dear Anotella, Answering the specific question: if the professor is present and the screening can *only* be seen by the students in the class, I don't see a problem. But if it's open space for everybody and/or he's off downing jello shots, it does violate PPR. *If* it's film studies or any feature film and forgive me for the following, for this is a criticism of the teacher and not you: What kind of *^#%$ teacher (and this is why I suggest you should check his alcohol levels) shows film in an open space where there's continuous noise interruptions and temptations of pizza and coffee from the cafe??? What kind of film experience needs comfy chairs? (a Monty Python reference, by the way.) Cinema, like any art, has the ability to change lives, but it's a lot tougher when somebody's shouting across the room to get them a latte or toss them a book. Was Kane's dying words, Earbuds? Did Rhett Butler actually say, Frank, my dear, let's go to Birmingham? Films should be seen in a dark room and the only sound should be coming from the speakers. Trust me, Martin Scorsese's screening room does not have a wet bar. So, the answer is no, for so many, many reasons. Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128 Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 Fax: 201-767-3035 email: milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com www.ontheboweryfilm.com www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Austin 2011: www.amianet.org Join Milestone Film on Facebook! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Antonella Ward antonella.w...@angelo.edu wrote: Kind Videolib-L folks, I have what I think is an interesting question for you this morning. Apologies if this issue has been discussed ad nauseam before. I have not searched the list archives for possible answers to this dilemma. I oversee the Media collection in our library, and we have recently opened the doors to our new Learning Commons, equipped with the latest and greatest technology we could afford. Our Learning Commons consist of a wide
