Re: [Videolib] streaming justification
Dear Gary I have a side question about what you wrote - does your Anthro Librarian buy DVDs? Ie, did the Antho librarian purchasing the ASP Ethno (DER) collection (outright? Or subscription?) represent new AV purchasing (money) and a new customer/buyer - or is this instead of either the Anthro librarian's acquisition of DVD or your acquisition of DVD? Thanks! Jonathan Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:34 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hi Rhonda Berkeley currently has access to ASP's Theater on Video, which was licensed via the California Digital Library as a consortial buy...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. We also have ASP's Ethnographic Video collection, purchased by our Anthro librarian with $ from a major grant...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. I have gone on record on videolib and elsewhere regarding my serious qualms about buying into curated or pre-assembled collections. These may be useful in some institutions, but at a place like Berkeley, even with rigorous publicity, only a tiny fraction of the collection will ever be used in any respect. That's just the way it goes here... I floated the ASP Dance collection past dance faculty awhile back, and they pretty much sniffed it away: the stuff they wanted simply wasn't represented and they weren't about to shuffle the syllabus to fit the collection. In hard financial times particularly, seems to me that focused selection that pays careful attention to short and long term need (rather than a grab-bag strategy)is the only responsible way to go. Gary Handman By the way, I really respect and like ASP, I just wish they allowed pick-and-choose options regarding their collections. Hi everyone, So, when you are looking at whether to purchase one of the streaming packages, Alexander St., Films Media group, or whatever, what are your justifications ? Do you look at all the usage stats of each title included in the package, and if so, how many uses and of how many of the titles is considered high enough to justify purchasing? What criteria are you using to persuade powers that be that they are worthwhile? Just curious, rhonda Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media Access Services William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| http://library.lmu.eduhttp://library.lmu.edu/ You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians. --Monty Python VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] streaming justification
Hi The Anthro librarian came into a huge chunk of unrestricted donation money and is looking for ways to spend it intelligently. I've bought stuff selectively for that department for years (they tend to be very focused in what they use, even more so since the demise of the visual anthropology specialization in the department). So: Anthro decided to buy the ASP ethnography collection as part of this (despite my dissuasion), and yes, they have been underwriting the acquisition of selected DVDs as well. And no, she hasn't opted for scoring all or part of the DER collection (yet). It's her money...what can I tell you? Oh, wait...I get it, Jon. You want to pitch her as a new (fatted) customer. Well, have at it. Gary Dear Gary I have a side question about what you wrote - does your Anthro Librarian buy DVDs? Ie, did the Antho librarian purchasing the ASP Ethno (DER) collection (outright? Or subscription?) represent new AV purchasing (money) and a new customer/buyer - or is this instead of either the Anthro librarian's acquisition of DVD or your acquisition of DVD? Thanks! Jonathan Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:34 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hi Rhonda Berkeley currently has access to ASP's Theater on Video, which was licensed via the California Digital Library as a consortial buy...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. We also have ASP's Ethnographic Video collection, purchased by our Anthro librarian with $ from a major grant...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. I have gone on record on videolib and elsewhere regarding my serious qualms about buying into curated or pre-assembled collections. These may be useful in some institutions, but at a place like Berkeley, even with rigorous publicity, only a tiny fraction of the collection will ever be used in any respect. That's just the way it goes here... I floated the ASP Dance collection past dance faculty awhile back, and they pretty much sniffed it away: the stuff they wanted simply wasn't represented and they weren't about to shuffle the syllabus to fit the collection. In hard financial times particularly, seems to me that focused selection that pays careful attention to short and long term need (rather than a grab-bag strategy)is the only responsible way to go. Gary Handman By the way, I really respect and like ASP, I just wish they allowed pick-and-choose options regarding their collections. Hi everyone, So, when you are looking at whether to purchase one of the streaming packages, Alexander St., Films Media group, or whatever, what are your justifications ? Do you look at all the usage stats of each title included in the package, and if so, how many uses and of how many of the titles is considered high enough to justify purchasing? What criteria are you using to persuade powers that be that they are worthwhile? Just curious, rhonda Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media Access Services William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| http://library.lmu.eduhttp://library.lmu.edu/ You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians. --Monty Python VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended
Re: [Videolib] streaming justification
Do you run statistics on use of these things? In my experience, anecdotal evidence (or unsolicited individual testimonials)are not really sufficient to justify the acquisition of expensive curated collections. gary Admittedly, we are a community college and don't have the demand for higher level resources on a regular basis, but I bought both the Dance and Theatre collections from ASP and the faculty are very happy with them. Of course, the collections don't include everything, but we also have FMG's academic collection and that seems to fill in the gaps nicely. Christine Crowley Dean of Learning Resources Adjunct Faculty, Theatre Northwest Vista College 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 voice 210.486.4504 fax We will either find a way, or make one.--Hannibal -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:34 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hi Rhonda Berkeley currently has access to ASP's Theater on Video, which was licensed via the California Digital Library as a consortial buy...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. We also have ASP's Ethnographic Video collection, purchased by our Anthro librarian with $ from a major grant...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. I have gone on record on videolib and elsewhere regarding my serious qualms about buying into curated or pre-assembled collections. These may be useful in some institutions, but at a place like Berkeley, even with rigorous publicity, only a tiny fraction of the collection will ever be used in any respect. That's just the way it goes here... I floated the ASP Dance collection past dance faculty awhile back, and they pretty much sniffed it away: the stuff they wanted simply wasn't represented and they weren't about to shuffle the syllabus to fit the collection. In hard financial times particularly, seems to me that focused selection that pays careful attention to short and long term need (rather than a grab-bag strategy)is the only responsible way to go. Gary Handman By the way, I really respect and like ASP, I just wish they allowed pick-and-choose options regarding their collections. Hi everyone, So, when you are looking at whether to purchase one of the streaming packages, Alexander St., Films Media group, or whatever, what are your justifications ? Do you look at all the usage stats of each title included in the package, and if so, how many uses and of how many of the titles is considered high enough to justify purchasing? What criteria are you using to persuade powers that be that they are worthwhile? Just curious, rhonda Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media Access Services William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| http://library.lmu.eduhttp://library.lmu.edu/ You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians. --Monty Python VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center
Re: [Videolib] streaming justification
Thanks, no I was more interested in what trend it may or may not represent re what is happening to AV purchasing - ie are new people buying/licensing material w/ the new media options, and/or are they buying w/ new money Ie is ASP additive to our business (potentially), or frightful competition? JM Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:14 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hi The Anthro librarian came into a huge chunk of unrestricted donation money and is looking for ways to spend it intelligently. I've bought stuff selectively for that department for years (they tend to be very focused in what they use, even more so since the demise of the visual anthropology specialization in the department). So: Anthro decided to buy the ASP ethnography collection as part of this (despite my dissuasion), and yes, they have been underwriting the acquisition of selected DVDs as well. And no, she hasn't opted for scoring all or part of the DER collection (yet). It's her money...what can I tell you? Oh, wait...I get it, Jon. You want to pitch her as a new (fatted) customer. Well, have at it. Gary Dear Gary I have a side question about what you wrote - does your Anthro Librarian buy DVDs? Ie, did the Antho librarian purchasing the ASP Ethno (DER) collection (outright? Or subscription?) represent new AV purchasing (money) and a new customer/buyer - or is this instead of either the Anthro librarian's acquisition of DVD or your acquisition of DVD? Thanks! Jonathan Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:34 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hi Rhonda Berkeley currently has access to ASP's Theater on Video, which was licensed via the California Digital Library as a consortial buy...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. We also have ASP's Ethnographic Video collection, purchased by our Anthro librarian with $ from a major grant...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. I have gone on record on videolib and elsewhere regarding my serious qualms about buying into curated or pre-assembled collections. These may be useful in some institutions, but at a place like Berkeley, even with rigorous publicity, only a tiny fraction of the collection will ever be used in any respect. That's just the way it goes here... I floated the ASP Dance collection past dance faculty awhile back, and they pretty much sniffed it away: the stuff they wanted simply wasn't represented and they weren't about to shuffle the syllabus to fit the collection. In hard financial times particularly, seems to me that focused selection that pays careful attention to short and long term need (rather than a grab-bag strategy)is the only responsible way to go. Gary Handman By the way, I really respect and like ASP, I just wish they allowed pick-and-choose options regarding their collections. Hi everyone, So, when you are looking at whether to purchase one of the streaming packages, Alexander St., Films Media group, or whatever, what are your justifications ? Do you look at all the usage stats of each title included in the package, and if so, how many uses and of how many of the titles is considered high enough to justify purchasing? What criteria are you using to persuade powers that be that they are worthwhile? Just curious, rhonda Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media Access Services William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, | CA 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| http://library.lmu.eduhttp://library.lmu.edu/ You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians. --Monty Python VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational
Re: [Videolib] streaming justification
I'm interested in products that are streaming because I don't have the money to replace the same titles every time the next greatest format comes along. We would still like to replace some VHS and laserdisc. Also to support distance programs we need more online products and interest in video to support teaching seems to keep growing. I was excited to hear about ASP's plans to allow title-by-title selection in Filmakers Library Online. Apparently this was announced at ALA Midwinter, but I haven't seen anything yet that it is an available option right now, just plans. On the other hand, I'm appalled by the pricing that Swank has been promoting for Digital Campus and the limitation of delivery to a specific class is not useful for building a collection. I'm going to watch a demo of it again tomorrow anyway and think about whether it is a last ditch solution to some knotty problems related to films on Reserve. Anybody already using Swank and care to comment? Lauren Lauren Corbett Director of Resource Services, Z. Smith Reynolds Library Ph: 336-758-6136 -Original Message- From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu [mailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:44 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hey Jon With all due respects to ASP, it is my opinion that the stuff they're vending is in no way competitive to what the Icaruses, Bullfrogs, WMMs and New Days of the world are selling. Unless...librarians get really stupid (or cowed)and decide that they're going to begin buying because the delivery mechanisms and platforms are sexy and attractive (rather than the content). Gary Thanks, no I was more interested in what trend it may or may not represent re what is happening to AV purchasing - ie are new people buying/licensing material w/ the new media options, and/or are they buying w/ new money Ie is ASP additive to our business (potentially), or frightful competition? JM Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:14 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hi The Anthro librarian came into a huge chunk of unrestricted donation money and is looking for ways to spend it intelligently. I've bought stuff selectively for that department for years (they tend to be very focused in what they use, even more so since the demise of the visual anthropology specialization in the department). So: Anthro decided to buy the ASP ethnography collection as part of this (despite my dissuasion), and yes, they have been underwriting the acquisition of selected DVDs as well. And no, she hasn't opted for scoring all or part of the DER collection (yet). It's her money...what can I tell you? Oh, wait...I get it, Jon. You want to pitch her as a new (fatted) customer. Well, have at it. Gary Dear Gary I have a side question about what you wrote - does your Anthro Librarian buy DVDs? Ie, did the Antho librarian purchasing the ASP Ethno (DER) collection (outright? Or subscription?) represent new AV purchasing (money) and a new customer/buyer - or is this instead of either the Anthro librarian's acquisition of DVD or your acquisition of DVD? Thanks! Jonathan Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:34 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hi Rhonda Berkeley currently has access to ASP's Theater on Video, which was licensed via the California Digital Library as a consortial buy...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. We also have ASP's Ethnographic Video collection, purchased by our Anthro librarian with $ from a major grant...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. I have gone on record on videolib and elsewhere regarding my serious qualms about buying into curated or pre-assembled collections. These may be useful in some institutions, but at a place like Berkeley, even with rigorous publicity, only a tiny fraction of the collection will ever be used in any respect. That's just the way it goes here... I floated the ASP Dance collection past dance faculty awhile back, and they pretty much sniffed it away: the stuff they wanted simply wasn't represented and they weren't about to shuffle
Re: [Videolib] streaming justification
Lauren, What makes you think that just because you have a title streaming doesn't mean you won't have to buy it again? Computers go out of date, this file system is no longer supported, new editions of the same title come out-or a higher def format is now available. In an ideal world yes, a streamed program would end the replacement/update game, but I'm not sold that that will be the case and I believe we will be updating formats for the foreseeable future. Not only that many streaming products, have to be paid for annually so you may not be replacing the title but you are certainly paying for that title each year if you are purchasing as a subscription. (ASP offers them annually licensed as well as one time purchase w/perpetual rights--which is a nice option, but not allow streaming providers work like this). And yes, I am aware that other companies are offering streaming files for purchase individually and I applaud them for that. Myles Jaeschke Tulsa City County Library Media Collections -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Corbett, Lauren E. Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:02 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification I'm interested in products that are streaming because I don't have the money to replace the same titles every time the next greatest format comes along. We would still like to replace some VHS and laserdisc. Also to support distance programs we need more online products and interest in video to support teaching seems to keep growing. I was excited to hear about ASP's plans to allow title-by-title selection in Filmakers Library Online. Apparently this was announced at ALA Midwinter, but I haven't seen anything yet that it is an available option right now, just plans. On the other hand, I'm appalled by the pricing that Swank has been promoting for Digital Campus and the limitation of delivery to a specific class is not useful for building a collection. I'm going to watch a demo of it again tomorrow anyway and think about whether it is a last ditch solution to some knotty problems related to films on Reserve. Anybody already using Swank and care to comment? Lauren Lauren Corbett Director of Resource Services, Z. Smith Reynolds Library Ph: 336-758-6136 -Original Message- From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu [mailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:44 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hey Jon With all due respects to ASP, it is my opinion that the stuff they're vending is in no way competitive to what the Icaruses, Bullfrogs, WMMs and New Days of the world are selling. Unless...librarians get really stupid (or cowed)and decide that they're going to begin buying because the delivery mechanisms and platforms are sexy and attractive (rather than the content). Gary Thanks, no I was more interested in what trend it may or may not represent re what is happening to AV purchasing - ie are new people buying/licensing material w/ the new media options, and/or are they buying w/ new money Ie is ASP additive to our business (potentially), or frightful competition? JM Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:14 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming justification Hi The Anthro librarian came into a huge chunk of unrestricted donation money and is looking for ways to spend it intelligently. I've bought stuff selectively for that department for years (they tend to be very focused in what they use, even more so since the demise of the visual anthropology specialization in the department). So: Anthro decided to buy the ASP ethnography collection as part of this (despite my dissuasion), and yes, they have been underwriting the acquisition of selected DVDs as well. And no, she hasn't opted for scoring all or part of the DER collection (yet). It's her money...what can I tell you? Oh, wait...I get it, Jon. You want to pitch her as a new (fatted) customer. Well, have at it. Gary Dear Gary I have a side question about what you wrote - does your Anthro Librarian buy DVDs? Ie, did the Antho librarian purchasing the ASP Ethno (DER) collection (outright? Or subscription?) represent new AV purchasing (money) and a new customer/buyer - or is this instead of either the Anthro librarian's acquisition of DVD or your acquisition of DVD? Thanks! Jonathan Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor
Re: [Videolib] streaming justification
Although I agree with Gary about not wanting to give up collection development decisions wholesale, I decided best thing to do about streamed video was to jump in big, so we're starting with some of the Alexander Street dbs. Packages were selected based on: anticipated interest and therefore likely usage, recognized content, average cost of the included titles if we were to buy the DVDs, how many of those titles would we purchase if money were no option, and a magic 8 ball. The option to purchase collections got me further than the subscription options because we have a pot of one-time soft money. I was up front that the break-even on purchase vs subscription is about 8 years. (Annual maintenance fees magically don't count.) I find this division a bit outdated, but figure I might as well milk it to benefit the collection. Now I'm working my way through getting approvals to purchase licenses from the other main vendors that we buy from, not because I necessarily want to buy streamed video from them yet, but so that it will make it easy for me to quickly license individual titles when the need arises. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] streaming justification
Hi Rhonda Berkeley currently has access to ASP's Theater on Video, which was licensed via the California Digital Library as a consortial buy...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. We also have ASP's Ethnographic Video collection, purchased by our Anthro librarian with $ from a major grant...I was not a strong supporter, but I was out-voted. I have gone on record on videolib and elsewhere regarding my serious qualms about buying into curated or pre-assembled collections. These may be useful in some institutions, but at a place like Berkeley, even with rigorous publicity, only a tiny fraction of the collection will ever be used in any respect. That's just the way it goes here... I floated the ASP Dance collection past dance faculty awhile back, and they pretty much sniffed it away: the stuff they wanted simply wasn't represented and they weren't about to shuffle the syllabus to fit the collection. In hard financial times particularly, seems to me that focused selection that pays careful attention to short and long term need (rather than a grab-bag strategy)is the only responsible way to go. Gary Handman By the way, I really respect and like ASP, I just wish they allowed pick-and-choose options regarding their collections. Hi everyone, So, when you are looking at whether to purchase one of the streaming packages, Alexander St., Films Media group, or whatever, what are your justifications ? Do you look at all the usage stats of each title included in the package, and if so, how many uses and of how many of the titles is considered high enough to justify purchasing? What criteria are you using to persuade powers that be that they are worthwhile? Just curious, rhonda Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media Access Services William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| http://library.lmu.eduhttp://library.lmu.edu/ You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians. --Monty Python VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
