Re: newer printers with older macs

2002-10-31 Thread /dev/null

 Ideally you'd built a headless UNIX machine, a tiny one, that could be
 tucked out of the way.
 
 The small Sun SPARC systems make nice print servers, however, they will
 process PostScript very slowly.
 
 It's really too bad that you can't get a fast/cheap PC that will run
 headless. Of course, you can ditch the monitor and keyboard once it has
 been tested and put into production.

would Linux be able to do this?

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Clock check. Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- Scott Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Mon, 22 May 2000 03:08:57 -0400

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was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Luigi Elia
Hi all,
I have a very fast ADSL connection (up to 150 kB/s), but my LC III (20 MB 
Ram  Fpu) and my 
Asante nubus Chipset LC 20028 Nic card (MacCon-A, 32k Ram, 7.3.5 Driver 
(That's what the 
Asante utility displays)) don't really seem to care. Downloading a 2 MB 
attach can take me up to half an hour!
What's the problem? 
Hardware (there's a fpu slot or similar on it) or Software (Drivers are 
from the macmuseum)?
Can I swap the fpu to the card? (does it make any sense?) 
What should be the max speed achievable with my setup?
Thanks in advance...
john 

At 15:23 -0700 on 30/10/02, Desert Fox wrote:

I just wish I had a pile of the 100bT NuBus cards lying around. They 
aren't
PCI 100bT but they are indeed faster than 10bT.

Care to back that up with evidence?  The SCSI bus on most 68K Macs is 
hardly
enough to saturate 10BaseT, much less 100.
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Re: Clock check. Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread /dev/null
speeaking of which

why is it that when Macs get y2k bugs or when the lithium battery goes ( 
i assume its that) the clock turns itself back to January 1945? they 
seem to have a unique way of counting... rather than going back to 1900...

my flatmate's LC II used to regularly say 1954 when he turned it on, 
then he'd re-set, reboot and it'd be fine...

there was a day when i put in a CDR of sound files i'd burned on a PC 
and when i read it into the mac they all came up as January 1945 or 
something weird...

i wondered if it has something to do with the point at which small ints 
cycle back round to 0 ?...

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Gregg Eshelman wrote:
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At 08:31 PM 10/30/2002 -0600, you wrote:
 
 
 Mon, 22 May 2000 03:08:57 -0400
 
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Re: Clock check. Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread /dev/null
sorry i meant short int

m~

/dev/null wrote:
 speeaking of which
 
 why is it that when Macs get y2k bugs or when the lithium battery goes ( 
 i assume its that) the clock turns itself back to January 1945? they 
 seem to have a unique way of counting... rather than going back to 1900...
 
 my flatmate's LC II used to regularly say 1954 when he turned it on, 
 then he'd re-set, reboot and it'd be fine...
 
 there was a day when i put in a CDR of sound files i'd burned on a PC 
 and when i read it into the mac they all came up as January 1945 or 
 something weird...
 
 i wondered if it has something to do with the point at which small ints 
 cycle back round to 0 ?...
 
 m~
 
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--- Scott Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At 08:31 PM 10/30/2002 -0600, you wrote:


Mon, 22 May 2000 03:08:57 -0400

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Re: quik 30 help

2002-10-31 Thread Philip Stortz
thank you!  that's extremely helpful.  i actually seem to have the model without a 
video connector (boo-hoo), but the jumper blocks sound right.  at least now i can play 
with the settings more intelligently and use tattle tech/tech tool to test the effect 
of each setting (though i suspect i'll have to power cycle after each change).  i'm 
also now glad i segregated some of my faster 4m simms (i got a boat load cheap on ebay 
last year), hopefully the board will take advantage of 4m simms.  i suspected the 
large connector was more or less a pass through, i'll have to see if i can make an 
adapter for an ethernet card or just make a custom ethernet adapter that fit's right 
on ( i've got design info for 2 of them from the motorola or ti site, not sure which 
at the moment).

 Different models of the Quik30 may have different jumper configs. The 
 memory size jumper block, 5 pins, lets you select the size of SIMMs 
 installed on the Quik30 board. Jumper 1-2 for no SIMMs, 2-3 for 1M total, 
 or 4-5 for 4M total. The memory wait state jumper 2W, 2 pins, is 
 installed for 2 wait states (110 ns max) or removed for 1 wait state (70 
 ns max). The FPU clock jumper block, 3 pins, is 1-2 MAIN for shared 
 clock (FPU speed == 68030 speed) or 2-3 ALT for separate crystals 
 (typically for a 16MHz FPU combined with a 25MHz 68030).
 
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Whinie Printer Ramblings

2002-10-31 Thread Red Rhino

--- flawed jai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 what the H are they trying to tell me here?
 it's an epson color stylus 640. can I or can't I put
 it on my 68K mac
 II's in system 7.x?

Have you tried Chuck's Driver?
http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/printer.shtml
I think you would be better off with an old laser printer,
you can find them quite reasonably now and after all,
Epson is crap. They still lack drivers for OS X on most of their printers.
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Re: quik 30 help

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- Philip Stortz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thank you!  that's extremely helpful.  i actually
 seem to have the model without a video connector
 (boo-hoo), but the jumper blocks sound right.  at
 least now i can play with the settings more
 intelligently and use tattle tech/tech tool to test
 the effect of each setting (though i suspect i'll
 have to power cycle after each change).

You'll want the Mac OFF while moving the jumpers. :)

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Re: newer printers with older macs

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 01:31 -0500 on 31/10/02, Shannon wrote:

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:09:59PM -0500, the pickle wrote:
 At 20:02 -0800 on 30/10/02, flawed jai wrote:

 i dont care if it takes a long time for the 68k mac to send all its code
 to the printer apparatus before it can print out. time is something i
 have lots of.

 Especially if you dedicate something like a IIci as a print server, so
 none of the other computers have to wait and the print server can do
 all the processing.

The client will still have to send a lot of PostScript data.

Remember that a lot of software spits out really inefficient PostScript.

I have seen pages that should take about 15K of PostScript, end up in
the megabytes. Don Lancaster used to rant about that in his magazine
columns/books.

Eh, sending a meg or two of PostScript over Ethernet is still a lot faster (and
can be done better in the background) than trying to spool up a print job
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Re: Clock check. Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 09:34 + on 31/10/02, /dev/null wrote:

my flatmate's LC II used to regularly say 1954 when he turned it on,
then he'd re-set, reboot and it'd be fine...

The date they reset to is the birthday of the CUDA chip programmer.
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Re: Clock check. Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread /dev/null


the pickle wrote:
 At 09:34 + on 31/10/02, /dev/null wrote:
 
 
my flatmate's LC II used to regularly say 1954 when he turned it on,
then he'd re-set, reboot and it'd be fine...
 
 
 The date they reset to is the birthday of the CUDA chip programmer.

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread luigi . elia
Hì pickle,
Yes indeed I have an Alcatel ADSL Modem for Voice over IP (dhcp server)
which probably is an autonegotiator! My email client (musashi 3) is too
particularly slow compared to eudoralite. I'll test eudora with a bigger-than-normal
file.
Are there walkarounds? (The Modem belongs to the phone company, so it's
not changeable)
cheers
john
the pickle wrote:
I have a very fast ADSL connection (up to 150 kB/s), but my LC III (20
MB
Ram  Fpu) and my
Asante nubus Chipset LC 20028 Nic card (MacCon-A, 32k Ram, 7.3.5 Driver
(That's what the
Asante utility displays)) don't really seem to care. Downloading a 2 MB
attach can take me up to half an hour!

Any chance you have that set up on any autonegotiating Ethernet hardware?
Asante cards seem to particularly hate trying to autonegotiate speeds and
duplexing.
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Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Robyn Lyons
Pretty much playing with it is all I wanted to do. I have a few IIcis a 
IIcx, Q700, and a IIfx just kind of laying around. I figured I might as 
well use one to experiment with.

It's too bad Apple decided to stop making this software, I hear it was 
excellent.

-Robyn

On Monday, May 22, 2000, at 02:08 AM, Scott Holder wrote:

 A/UX is a lot of fun to play with, but unfortunately it's not much use
 beyond that. All it's tools are several years old now and haven't been
 updated in some time. It also doesn't come with any of the GNU 
 development
 tools you'd really need to make it do much useful these days.

 Plus there's all the security issues that have been fixed over the 
 years
 that still exist in it.

 Naturally all this can be hacked in, but it would take a lot of work.

 Having said that, it is incredibly neat. It feels almost like having 
 OS X
 on your 68k Mac, minus all the eye candy. It even has a / drive on 
 the
 desktop. However, unlike OS X, it maintains nearly 100% compatibilty 
 with
 Mac OS fairly natively, right down to most control panels and 
 extensions
 working.

 About the only unfortunate thing is it acts like System 7.0.1 rather 
 than
 7.1.x. There were some software support changes between the two.

 All in all, a cool thing to play with, but probably not very practical 
 for
 making use of these days.

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Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Scott Holder
It was excellent. If they'd kept up development of it they'd have had
the OS that's easy enough for everyone to use, but UNIX for the power
users before the Quadras got big in the market instead of only now when
they're playing catchup to Windows.

It's shame, that's for sure.

Scott Holder

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Pretty much playing with it is all I wanted to do. I have a few IIcis a 
IIcx, Q700, and a IIfx just kind of laying around. I figured I might as 
well use one to experiment with.

It's too bad Apple decided to stop making this software, I hear it was 
excellent.

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Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Terry Mathews
 It's too bad Apple decided to stop making this software, I hear it was
 excellent.

Excellent, yes. But expensive beyond belief (For an OS). By the time you
bought a license for it and AppleShare Pro, you were looking at something
like $5000... As I remember.

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Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

2002-10-31 Thread dan_A

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Having a problem with my 11ci.  While doing a network transfer from 
my S900 it crashed. When I tried to restart the external 1Gb drive 
(which is my startup drive) came up but the internal drive didn't 
appear and couldn't be accessed by Norton, Disk Warrier, Disk First 
Aid. I removed the external SCSI chain and the 040 processor card. No 
luck. Unfortunately I have an old non Mac cd player and can't start 
up without the enabling Spirit extension. I tried zapping the PRAM 
several times. All I got from this was a worse situation; the 
external startup drive would now only come up when the shift key was 
depressed. If I didn't hold the key down I get a startup smile face 
which then goes to chimes of death, black screen, scowling mac. So I 
dumped finder prefs, N.G. I took all the control panels and 
extensions out of their folders and got the black screen. I took the 
folders out and let the sys make new ones. Black screen. I tried 
access with old software on floppies but they come up as unreadable. 
I also tried using a CDRW drive hoping that I could get startup from 
a Norton or DiskWarrier CD, since the drive has the Apple ROMS. No 
success. So I have no access to the remaining external drive except 
with all the inits off.

My specific question, aside from my choking cry for help is: What 
else besides the control and extension folders does the shift key 
depressed cancel out? I remove all the extensions, cps and their 
folders and still can't get a startup if the extension key is not 
held down? The key is seemingly canceling something else that's 
corrupted.

Any ideas will be very appreciated and I hope there are some, because 
I'm out of them at this moment.

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Mark Benson

On Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002, at 23:43 Europe/London, Marten van de 
Kraats wrote:

The whole point of using modern inkjets is their ability to print
high quality photo prints. If it is just for printing small docs, you
might as well use some old hp deskjet/deskwriter or keep a fabled LW
IIg around like I do. A modern inkjet printer that is only a 'great
small-time document printer' just isn't good enough.


Utter pishaw (I did change that word too!). Name me ONE £50 (Euro70?? - 
I'm not gonna ask any of you guys in the US as everything is much 
cheaper there!! ;) ) inkjet that can produce a decent photo quality 
print. That's how much my Lexmark cost (admittedly second hand but it's 
only 1 year old this Xmas). OK if you buy a NEW £80 inkjet printer you 
expect photo printing as standard, at 1200dpi, but a cheap $$ printer 
is not expected to do stuff like that. I also think some people do buy 
inkjets as small-time document printers only, as low cost laser 
printers are too expensive and only do black and white.

When I said they were not too good at photos I didn't meant the output 
is atrociously unacceptable, it's just not on a par with Epson's photo 
printing engine (because Lexmark printers use a lot less ink buy using 
a clever system for dithering, but it's optimised for document colour 
not photo printing). The average unknowing person can't tell the 
difference. From 'sitting on the mantle piece above the fire' distance 
it looks really good on gloss paper, it's just a little flimsy when 
scrutinised. And by 'small time document printer' I meant small 
business, shoulda made that clear I think.

I wouldn't have bought a Lexmark if I'd needed a photo printer, I'd 
have bought an Epson. The fact is my dad has an Epson Photo Stylus that 
is only 9 months old and produces professional quality photos, I can 
use that if I need to. I do a lot of printing of text files, resumes 
and Illustrator drafts as well as other stuff like that that needs 
colour but not photo quality output. My z52 is a great printer for that 
kind of thing and produces black document print and block colour that 
is on a par for sharpness with a low cost laser printer.

I have my doubts about this being true. Considering the costs of both
the ink cartridges and glossy photo paper, having your photo's
developed and printed by some photo shop doesn't seem to be that bad
a deal...


The inherent flexibility of digital photography allows you to cut costs 
by discarding the pictures you don't want before the developing stage. 
This cuts costs all round. Also home users can view pictures on TV or 
the computer meaning you only really have to print them out when you 
want to frame on and stick it over the fireplace or send it to a 
relative or friend.

Besides high quality digital cameras aren't exactly a
bargain either.


3 megapixel cameras, such as the Olympus Camedia C-300 Zoom my mum got 
for here birthday, come in well below £300 for the camera themselves. 
She got the package which included 2 sets of  NiMH batteries, 2 64MB 
Memory cards and a case for £350. The picture quality is exquisite and 
sharp as a pin. Need I got any further?

Good driver, bad driver, what is the point when the printer in
question isn't good enough...


Erm, it's a perfectly good printer thanks, and the drivers are very 
good, as I said. And on the subject of drivers I only have to utter the 
word Epson on OS X lists and see people flee in all directions 
screaming. I think they have gotten it sorted out now but the 
nightmares surrounding support for Epson USB printers with the dawn of 
OS X 10.1 still bring tears to the eyes of grown men...

I'd cull this thread for being off-topic, being the list nanny and all, 
but there are no Mac printing lists (that I know of) so I guess we have 
to talk this over somewhere!

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Mark Benson

On Thursday, Oct 31, 2002, at 00:03 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:


Too bad they're - as you said - crap printers for anything but basic 
text, and
their Mac OS driver history isn't very good.

I didn't say 'crap for anything other than basic text' I said they were 
nt the best photo printers. As for their OS X drivers they have been 
exemplary for me, I had a z12 for 6 months (but got pissed with 
swapping the cartridges, that's what you get for buying a £40 
printer!!) and then sold it and upgraded to a z52, which I bought off 
my flat mate for £50 when he upgraded to a Lexmark laser printer. All 
that time (from 10.0.4, thru 10.1.x to 10.2.1 now) I have had very few 
problems with their drivers. I have also never had any problems getting 
drivers that work with current OS X versions, unlike certain other 
manufacturers beginning with E I could mention!

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Robyn Lyons
When it comes to OSX, Epson can pretty much just kiss my #$%#.  I 
never though much of their OS9 drivers either, the printers I had 
didn't even support desktop printing, and when you have 3 printers 
attached, that is a big deal. Lexmark OTOH supported desktop printing 
and the OSX drivers are really well done. They have the same functions 
as the Windows drivers, only mac-like. When was the last time you could 
say that the Mac drivers were as good as the Win boxh.

Sorry to rant, but Epson is on company that I wouldmumble mumble 
grr.
They do make a great color photo printer though..damn.

-Robyn

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 11:18 AM, Mark Benson wrote:

 Erm, it's a perfectly good printer thanks, and the drivers are very 
 good, as I said. And on the subject of drivers I only have to utter 
 the word Epson on OS X lists and see people flee in all directions 
 screaming. I think they have gotten it sorted out now but the 
 nightmares surrounding support for Epson USB printers with the dawn of 
 OS X 10.1 still bring tears to the eyes of grown men...

 I'd cull this thread for being off-topic, being the list nanny and 
 all, but there are no Mac printing lists (that I know of) so I guess 
 we have to talk this over somewhere!


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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Marten van de Kraats
Mark,

I am happy that you are so pleased with your Lexmark printer, but the 
fact remains that it is a crap printer, that can't print photo's as 
well as an epson, canon or hp inkjet and is, when it comes to text 
stuff,  much more expensive,  in purchase and definitely in usage, 
than a second hand laser printer (mine cost 12 euro, talk about 
cheap), which has the added advantage of being able to work with 
anything from a floppy driven Mac Plus running system 6 to a dual 
processor G4 running Mac OS Xor a pentium 4 running windows xp or 
linux and all that on the same network.

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Re: Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

2002-10-31 Thread Steve Cunningham
My specific question, aside from my choking cry for help is: What 
else besides the control and extension folders does the shift key 
depressed cancel out? I remove all the extensions, cps and their 
folders and still can't get a startup if the extension key is not 
held down? The key is seemingly canceling something else that's 
corrupted.

You didn't say what System you are using. Some older ones keep extensions 
hanging around loose in the System Folder and even under the later 
Systems, some older extensions still need to go in the System Folder. In 
particular, depending on the make of your 040 card, there might be a 
driver or enabler it needs. Is it still out? If you have trashed the 
old folders and their contents, the System isn't going to rebuild them 
for you. You will need to reinstall the system (which it sounds like you 
can't). If you didn' trash them, try putting them all back and turning 
them up one by one using Extensions Manager.

The old Apple CD-300 drives will boot on the IIci and you can probably 
find one cheap.

BTW, it seems that you are assuming that there is a software/driver 
problem with the internal drive. It may be a hardware problem that caused 
or was caused by the crash which would explain why none of the diagnostic 
programs could see it initially.

Good Luck.

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Re: newer printers with older macs

2002-10-31 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:56:08AM +, /dev/null wrote:
 
  Ideally you'd built a headless UNIX machine, a tiny one, that could be
  tucked out of the way.
  
  The small Sun SPARC systems make nice print servers, however, they will
  process PostScript very slowly.
  
  It's really too bad that you can't get a fast/cheap PC that will run
  headless. Of course, you can ditch the monitor and keyboard once it has
  been tested and put into production.
 
 would Linux be able to do this?

Yep.  My Linux workstation is currently the print server for my LAN,
as I needed to move things around a bit.  I don't really like that,
as I sometimes reboot this system and experiment with it.

The plan is to (soon) move the print server to a Sun SS5 running NetBSD.
It will also be running Apple file sharing.

The downside is that the Suns are older (110 and 170MHz v8 SPARCS)
so some larger print jobs will be slower.

I could put in a cheap PC as an additional server, but workstations are
more reliable, and they can run headless.  Oh, and the Suns are paid for,
and you can snag them on eBay for nearly nothing, kinda like vintag Mac
systems... :)

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Re: newer printers with older macs

2002-10-31 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 06:58:51AM -0500, the pickle wrote:

 Eh, sending a meg or two of PostScript over Ethernet is still a lot faster
 (and can be done better in the background) than trying to spool up a print
 job itself.

...which is why I said it would be better.

I'm just pointing out that you will still wait on an older Mac even
printing over ethernet.

A PostScript job I did the other day was over 100MB.

X by Y inches, N dpi, and M-bits... it adds up really quick, plus the
extra PS overhead.

But yeah, it's much nicer to ship it out over ether to a print server.

If you are going to use GhostScript on a UNIX machine, make sure you
have enough CPU and RAM though, it can take quite a bit, especially if
you are handling multiple jobs and printers.  On the upside, really fast
Linux/BSD print servers can be built cheap.

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Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 03:08:57AM -0400, Scott Holder wrote:

 All in all, a cool thing to play with, but probably not very practical for 
 making use of these days.

Yeah, though I remember actually using it for real in 1992.

A friend of mine in college had an SE/30 which ran Mathematica (no kidding)
and I think he used AUX for some processing that was harder under MacOS.

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Re: Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

2002-10-31 Thread dan_A
At 2:07 PM -0500 on 10/31/02, Steve Cunningham wrote:
.
You didn't say what System you are using. Some older ones keep extensions
hanging around loose in the System Folder and even under the later
Systems, some older extensions still need to go in the System Folder. In
particular, depending on the make of your 040 card, there might be a
driver or enabler it needs. Is it still out? If you have trashed the
old folders and their contents, the System isn't going to rebuild them
for you. You will need to reinstall the system (which it sounds like you
can't). If you didn' trash them, try putting them all back and turning
them up one by one using Extensions Manager.

The old Apple CD-300 drives will boot on the IIci and you can probably
find one cheap.

BTW, it seems that you are assuming that there is a software/driver
problem with the internal drive. It may be a hardware problem that caused
or was caused by the crash which would explain why none of the diagnostic
programs could see it initially.

Good Luck.

Steve

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the cp and extension folder's contents. I moved them to the desktop 
and tried adding some back that would enable me to mount a cd or get 
on the network. The thing is, that even the empty folders in the sys 
folder crashed the machine. I have to look to see if there are any 
loose inits in the sys folder. Is 7.5.1 an OS that tolerates loose 
inits? The 040 card is a Sonnet, which is one of the first things 
that I removed. Made no difference. I also tried using 
MountEverything software which indicated hardware damage to the 
internal drive. This whole thing resulted from a crash... or a crash 
resulted from a hardware glitch. If I can get to the internal drive I 
would be able to see if I can restore the volume or at worst create a 
new volume. But right now I need to repair the software on the 
external drive which disk warrior (installed on that same drive 
unfortunately) indicates to be very out of sync (my words).

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Re: DiskTop [was Mac Explorer: was Mac IIci]

2002-10-31 Thread ELN/rlf9

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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:15:17 EST
Subject: Re: DiskTop [was Mac Explorer' was Mac IIci]

Try DiskTools 3.3 desk accessory, part of DiskTools Collection by 
Rainmaker...found it in various places but can't lay my hand on a url right 
now.   Nice file management utility, views invisible files, etcseems 
similar to DiskTop.   I use it with systems 7.1, 7.6, and 8.

Yeah I like DiskTools too. As for DiskTop, Did a monsta search yesterday 
and came up with the 1987-vintage DiskTop 1.2 in its DA suitcase. 
Unfortunately I didn't save the link. If anyone with a site wants to post 
it, I'll send you the file if you contact me offlist. I really do need to 
get around to making a site tho...

Bob F

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
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 At 10:09 +0200 on 31/10/02, Luigi Elia wrote:

 Any chance you have that set up on any
 autonegotiating Ethernet hardware?
 Asante cards seem to particularly hate trying to
 autonegotiate speeds and
 duplexing.

Any NuBus or LC NICs that can run full duplex?

Luigi, see if you can set your router, switch or
hub manually to 10 Megabit per second and half
duplex on the port your old Mac is connected to.

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Several LC III issues

2002-10-31 Thread Josh Watson
Hi all

Does anyone on this list know if my LC III will run A/UX if i put an FPU
chip in it? It has a lot of RAM and a nice big HD, but I've heard A/UX isn't
the most compatible OS.

Also, I have an old card in my Performa 450 LC III. It comes with
VideoSpigot and Screenplay and is a video capture card. It used to work in
7.1, but I can't get it to work in 7.5. Does anyone know what the card is?
Is it incompatible or has it just broken over the last few years. (I haven't
used it for years and am just trying 7.5 on my mac).

Also, does anyone want to sell me a couple of LC III FPUs and Ethernet
cards? I'm in the UK but could pay shipping if they are cheap.

Thanks for any help
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Re: Several LC III issues

2002-10-31 Thread Mark Benson

On Thursday, Oct 31, 2002, at 22:27 Europe/London, Josh Watson wrote:

 Does anyone on this list know if my LC III will run A/UX if i put an 
 FPU
 chip in it? It has a lot of RAM and a nice big HD, but I've heard A/UX 
 isn't
 the most compatible OS.

A/UX only works on non-AV Quadras and WGS machines IIRC. It will not 
work on compacts (apart from the SE/30), LCs or AV Quadras.

 Also, I have an old card in my Performa 450 LC III. It comes with
 VideoSpigot and Screenplay and is a video capture card. It used to 
 work in
 7.1, but I can't get it to work in 7.5. Does anyone know what the card 
 is?
 Is it incompatible or has it just broken over the last few years. (I 
 haven't
 used it for years and am just trying 7.5 on my mac).

Don't bother with 7.5 on an LCIII, the '030 is too weedy to cope with 
the extra strain and it's a rubbish OS version anyway :).

 Also, does anyone want to sell me a couple of LC III FPUs and Ethernet
 cards? I'm in the UK but could pay shipping if they are cheap.

Try eBay. I know everyone says that but they do come up about once a 
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 17:50 +0100 on 31/10/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes indeed I have an Alcatel ADSL Modem for Voice over IP (dhcp server)
which probably is an autonegotiator! My email client (musashi 3) is too
particularly slow compared to eudoralite. I'll test eudora with a
bigger-than-normal
file.
Are there walkarounds? (The Modem belongs to the phone company, so it's
not changeable)

Stick a 10BaseT hub between the Mac and the modem.
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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 18:58 +0100 on 31/10/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote:

I am happy that you are so pleased with your Lexmark printer, but the
fact remains that it is a crap printer, that can't print photo's as
well as an epson, canon or hp inkjet and is, when it comes to text

...which, after all, is the only reason inkjets are even still around - because
they're far cheaper for colour printing than lasers, despite their poor quality
on uncoated paper.

For text, give me a used LaserWriter any day over a sub-$200 inkjet whose carts
I have to replace every month or two because they dry out so fast.

For photos, well, that's the whole point of this: gimp-print as a print server
on OS X, serving up colour PostScript printer capability to 68K Mac users.

BTW, never trust manufacturer drivers for ANYTHING unless there's no
alternative.  Third-party drivers are almost universally better, *especially*
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 13:18 -0800 on 31/10/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

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 Any chance you have that set up on any
 autonegotiating Ethernet hardware?
 Asante cards seem to particularly hate trying to
 autonegotiate speeds and
 duplexing.

Any NuBus or LC NICs that can run full duplex?

I'm not sure there are any non-PCI cards period that can run full duplex
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Re: Several LC III issues

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 22:27 + on 31/10/02, Josh Watson wrote:

Does anyone on this list know if my LC III will run A/UX if i put an FPU
chip in it? It has a lot of RAM and a nice big HD, but I've heard A/UX isn't
the most compatible OS.

It's very specific in its compatibility, and the LC III isn't one of the ones
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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Marten van de Kraats
For photos, well, that's the whole point of this: gimp-print as a print server
on OS X, serving up colour PostScript printer capability to 68K Mac users.

Gimp print.. is that the  name of a print server for OS X? I looked 
up 'print server' in versiontracker but only got some commercial 
program.
I had a look at this cups stuff and the ghost thing but I didn't know 
what to do with it.
I am following this print server thing with great interest because it 
will open up a way for system 6 Macs to print to newer printers too.


BTW, never trust manufacturer drivers for ANYTHING unless there's no
alternative.  Third-party drivers are almost universally better, *especially*
on OS X.

The 10.2 print engine is greatly improved over 10.1. It is still not 
as efficient as the classic laserwriter software, but it is 
acceptable.

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Marten van de Kraats
At 17:18 + on 31/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:

expect photo printing as standard, at 1200dpi, but a cheap $$ printer
is not expected to do stuff like that. I also think some people do buy
inkjets as small-time document printers only, as low cost laser
printers are too expensive and only do black and white.

Find me a low-cost inkjet that doesn't dry out its ink tanks every two months
that prints better quality than a used LaserWriter II-series and I'll believe
that.


Find me a low-cost inkjet that prints 4000 pages out of one ink cartridge...

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 01:43 +0100 on 01/11/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote:

For photos, well, that's the whole point of this: gimp-print as a print server
on OS X, serving up colour PostScript printer capability to 68K Mac users.

Gimp print.. is that the  name of a print server for OS X? I looked

The driver package.

I had a look at this cups stuff and the ghost thing but I didn't know
what to do with it.

Just install it.

The 10.2 print engine is greatly improved over 10.1. It is still not
as efficient as the classic laserwriter software, but it is
acceptable.

Right, but my point is that manufacturer drivers (Epson, HP, Lexmark, Canon,
whoever) are almost universally inferior to the ones in the gimp-print package.
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was: Nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Luigi Elia
 The pickle wrote:

 Any chance you have that set up on any
 autonegotiating Ethernet hardware?
 Asante cards seem to particularly hate trying to
 autonegotiate speeds and
 duplexing.

Gregg wrote:
Any NuBus or LC NICs that can run full duplex?

Luigi, see if you can set your router, switch or
hub manually to 10 Megabit per second and half
duplex on the port your old Mac is connected to.


I'm sorry Gregg, but my ADSL modem stands alone. It's connected to the 
phone line and a splitter for doin' voice over IP calls and I can't really 
change any setting on it as it's not installed on any machine. From the 
modem goes an Rj45 to my NiC...
Tomorrow I'll test the downloading with Eudora, as I have a sentry that the 
email client could be the source of these long downloads
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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Mark Benson

On Friday, Nov 1, 2002, at 00:26 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:

 ...which, after all, is the only reason inkjets are even still around 
 - because
 they're far cheaper for colour printing than lasers, despite their 
 poor quality
 on uncoated paper.

At least I don't need 3 men and a fork truck to move my Lexmark ;).

 For text, give me a used LaserWriter any day over a sub-$200 inkjet 
 whose carts
 I have to replace every month or two because they dry out so fast.

Yes. But it your resume has a photo in like mine it don' look too goo 
in BW. I also do a lot of work in Illustrator that requires colour 
drafts (no I do - really !!). Hence why I have an inkjet.

 For photos, well, that's the whole point of this: gimp-print as a 
 print server
 on OS X, serving up colour PostScript printer capability to 68K Mac 
 users.

What gets me is OS X throws everything in Postscript. Are all it's 
print jobs in PS format before they hit CUPS?

 BTW, never trust manufacturer drivers for ANYTHING unless there's no
 alternative.  Third-party drivers are almost universally better, 
 *especially*
 on OS X.

The whole reason 3rd party drivers crop up are usually due to 
manufacturers driver being poor. Hence WHY they are always better.

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Mark Benson

On Friday, Nov 1, 2002, at 00:24 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:

 Find me a low-cost inkjet that doesn't dry out its ink tanks every two 
 months
 that prints better quality than a used LaserWriter II-series and I'll 
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 that.

In colour...?

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Marten van de Kraats
The big question:
Has anyone been able to print from his or 68k Mac to a new inkjet 
using a os x/bsd/linux/windows print server yet?

I would love to try but I do not own a usb inkjet right now.

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Marten van de Kraats


  For photos, well, that's the whole point of this: gimp-print as a
  print server
  on OS X, serving up colour PostScript printer capability to 68K Mac
  users.

What gets me is OS X throws everything in Postscript. Are all it's
print jobs in PS format before they hit CUPS?

In 10.1 os x threw everything in pdf and then converted it to 
postscript. Did this change in 10.2 ? Does this change with cups?

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 03:26 +0100 on 01/11/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote:



  For photos, well, that's the whole point of this: gimp-print as a
  print server
  on OS X, serving up colour PostScript printer capability to 68K Mac
  users.

What gets me is OS X throws everything in Postscript. Are all it's
print jobs in PS format before they hit CUPS?

In 10.1 os x threw everything in pdf and then converted it to
postscript. Did this change in 10.2 ? Does this change with cups?

I dunno 'bout printing, but PDF is the default format for screen shots unless
you change it...
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Re: Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

2002-10-31 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 10/31/02 6:57 PM, Vintage Macs wrote:

My specific question, aside from my choking cry for help is: What 
else besides the control and extension folders does the shift key 
depressed cancel out? I remove all the extensions, cps and their 
folders and still can't get a startup if the extension key is not 
held down? The key is seemingly canceling something else that's 
corrupted.

Did you remove the AppleShare Prep and AppleTalk preference files? Or 
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Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Robyn Lyons
I kind of remember seeing screenshots in Macworld circa '93. Does 
anyone know where one can get a copy. Mostly for nostalgia.

-Robyn

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 12:23 PM, Charles Shannon Hendrix 
wrote:

 All in all, a cool thing to play with, but probably not very 
 practical for
 making use of these days.

 Yeah, though I remember actually using it for real in 1992.

 A friend of mine in college had an SE/30 which ran Mathematica (no 
 kidding)
 and I think he used AUX for some processing that was harder under 
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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Robyn Lyons
GAHHH! THE BLACK SPOT:)

-Robyn

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 01:41 PM, Mark Benson wrote:

 OK this is starting to get nasty now. Can we call a halt please and
 take this back to issues regarding using new printers with old Macs
 please, I think we have, discussed it to it maximum extent now, people
 are starting to get personal and gang up on the side of their favorite
 printer manufacturer and that has all the makings of it descending into
 a flame war.

 And before you ask I'm not reacting like this because Marten is dissing
 my choice of printer ;).

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hì pickle,
 Yes indeed I have an Alcatel ADSL Modem for Voice
 over IP (dhcp server)
 which probably is an autonegotiator! My email client
 (musashi 3) is too
 particularly slow compared to eudoralite. I'll test
 eudora with a bigger-than-normal
 file.
 Are there walkarounds? (The Modem belongs to the
 phone company, so it's not changeable)

http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/support.htm

Driver updates and User's Guides for Alcatel DSL
modems. There you should find how to access the
modem's settings, most likely by using a Web
browser or a Telnet application pointed to the
modem/router's IP address. 'Course your phone company
may have set a password on the hardware, but it's
worth a try. :) If there is a password, call your
DSL provider and tell them you need the one port (if
it has more than one) set to 10Mbit half duplex.

At the least, update the drivers for it on the
computer it's connected to.

Another way around it is to get a 10/100 managed
switch with several ports. That way you can connect
the DSL modem to the switch and program the switch
ports for what's connected to each one. The switch
will properly autonegotiate with the modem.

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:43:33AM +0100, Marten van de Kraats wrote:

 For photos, well, that's the whole point of this: gimp-print as a print
 server on OS X, serving up colour PostScript printer capability to 68K Mac
 users.
 
 Gimp print.. is that the  name of a print server for OS X? I looked 
 up 'print server' in versiontracker but only got some commercial 
 program.

Gimp-print is a set of drivers for The Gimp and GhostScript.

There is a story behind this, naturally.

There is a program called The Gimp that is basically a free alternative
to Photoshop, written primarily on Linux systems, but will run on Windows,
*BSD, Solaris, etc.

Because the printing situation for UNIX sucks, two things happened:
gimp-print was created as a plugin for The Gimp to get good color output
on lot's of printers whose UNIX drivers support was poor or non-existing.
It eventually got to where the Gimp drivers were better than the originals
in some areas.

Since a lot of people wanted this quality of drivers for GhostScript too,
gimp-print was modified to work as a set of drivers for that too.

Then CUPS come along and, naturally, the gimp-print enhanced GhostScript
is a perfect fit for it.

Clear as mud now, eh?  :)

 I had a look at this cups stuff and the ghost thing but I didn't know what
 to do with it.  I am following this print server thing with great interest
 because it will open up a way for system 6 Macs to print to newer printers
 too.

The pieces of all this have been around for many years, but it wasn't
until recently that it started coming together as a whole.

Apple has chosen CUPS for OS/X printing (they just created a pretty
interface for it), and the project is really gaining ground.  I don't know
if they will integrate GhostScript and Gimp-Print into the whole or not.
It would seem like a good idea.  Of course, Apple is in bed with Adobe,
so that's probably a hard sell for them.

Going off-track a moment, it would make a lot of sense for the printer
industry to just write drivers for the CUPS/GhostScript system.  That way
a single driver would support all systems (CUPS can be ported widely) and
there would be no more time/resource excuses for only supporting Windows.

(smack) OK, I'm awake.

There are a number of ways you can go to get a CUPS system running,
depending on your needs.  While it has support for enterprise-wide
printing, you need not mess with any of that if you don't need it.

What would be nice is if someone would write a CUPS IPP driver for
MacOS 6-9.  


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Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Scott Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It was excellent. If they'd kept up development of
 it they'd have had
 the OS that's easy enough for everyone to use, but
 UNIX for the power
 users before the Quadras got big in the market
 instead of only now when
 they're playing catchup to Windows.

Playing catchup to Free BSD, Open BSD and Linux. :)
There are some features in Windows that Apple has been
playing catchup on since 1995... But overall I'd
call it a draw. I remember the first OS 8 ads claiming
several new features that Win95 had first.

 It's shame, that's for sure.

Yes, a shame that Apple tried to go in so many
directions at once in the immediate pre-Jobs Return
period. The direction of the company was a muddle,
practically every new Mac model had a completely
different design team and there was the madness of
creating different models based upon what software
shipped with them. Wasn't it Packard Bell that
started that dumb idea? I always called them
Packaged Hell. ;)

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I finally got my old Epson 800 printing today after
dripping Windex down the pipe that connects to the ink
tank, scrubbing the rubber cap for the printhead and
the rubber wiper blade with wet cotton swabs, using
a syringe to saturate the ink sucker that's supposed
to prime the printhead and many, many times of
removing
and replacing the ink tank and moving the printhead
with the power off to force it to try priming the
printhead. I was happy to finally see the thing NOT
beep and turn on the Ink Out light and get a self test
printout out of it.

So? Anyone wanna buy an Epson Stylus 800 with a full
ink tank? :P Heh, it's gonna go with the next
el-cheapo
PC box I slap together to sell cheap so I can add the
cash to my Buy myself more Macintosh bits fund. :)

I'll be quite happy to never lay hands on another
Epson, thank you! The shop I worked for sold
Epson ink, LOTS of Epson ink. We also sold many new
Epson printers to replace Epsons with terminally
clogged printheads.

In contrast, the Canon BJ620 was a breeze. I just
removed the printhead (take a lesson there, Epson!)
and _washed it out_ under the kitchen faucet. I shook
out as much of the water as I could then wiped it
off with paper towels. After reinstalling it and
four freshly refilled ink tanks, which unlike Epson
are designed to _not cause a failure_ when removed
and replaced, and it only took a few times of turning
the printer on and off before it had ink sucked
through
the squeaky clean printhead. :)

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- Robyn Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry to rant, but Epson is on company that I
 wouldmumble mumble 
 grr.
 They do make a great color photo printer
 though..damn.

For my Compaq A3000 (a Lexmark scanner/copyer/printer
in mufti) I can either print with the black cartridge
and a three color cartridge or I can replace the black
cartridge with a photo cartridge containing Black,
Light Magenta and Light Cyan for six color printing.
It does so good at copying color photos, I don't see
how it could be much better with six colors. :)

Some printers do seven color printing, adding a
light black to the mix for better detail in dark
areas.

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Re: Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Tried connecting the dead internal drive to your
S900 to see if it can be seen there? Make sure the
internal drive is actually spinning.

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Robyn Lyons
First attempt, try going to http://192.168.100.1  That is a rather 
common modem (both cable, dsl) configuration address.

-Robyn

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 11:06 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

 Driver updates and User's Guides for Alcatel DSL
 modems. There you should find how to access the
 modem's settings, most likely by using a Web
 browser or a Telnet application pointed to the
 modem/router's IP address. 'Course your phone company
 may have set a password on the hardware, but it's
 worth a try. :) If there is a password, call your
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Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Desert Fox
I wish I would have bought the Workgroup Server 95 instead of the Workgroup
Server 60 I bought way back when. I was steered away from the 95 due to it's
UNIX base and concern that the staff would be unable to handle crashes in my
absence. However, after running A/UX 3.1.1 on a Quadra 650 and that very
Workgroup Server 60 (which is a 25Mhz model with full 040), I am really
sorry that I didn't go that way.

It doesn't crash! And although AppleShare Pro isn't a speed daemon today, it
would have been great back then! Instead I dealt with AppleShare 4.0, System
7.1, and the assorted random crashes.

Now that I have these two A/UX 3.1.1 installations running on 040s with max
RAM and a 3.0.2 installed on a IICX with 80MB RAM, I think I will actually
be able to use them for menial tasks that they are perfect for. Heck if
nothing else, I've got a telnet terminal window available to watch packet
traffic on my router ports. Plus I get to play with a bunch of old software
that was collecting an equal amount of dust until recently. Remember Live
Picture? Wild program.

Bummer about A/UX is lack of 24 bit video support, making the Thunder IIGX
cards a regular slug instead of a rocket.

I'm in the process of getting all the Apache, BIND, and other apps I want to
pound on updated and running.

The old version of Retrospect (2.0Ci A/UX) probably works better than
Retrospect 5!


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on 10/31/02 9:36 PM, Robyn Lyons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled:

 I kind of remember seeing screenshots in Macworld circa '93. Does
 anyone know where one can get a copy. Mostly for nostalgia.
 
 -Robyn
 
 On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 12:23 PM, Charles Shannon Hendrix
 wrote:
 
 All in all, a cool thing to play with, but probably not very
 practical for
 making use of these days.
 
 Yeah, though I remember actually using it for real in 1992.
 
 A friend of mine in college had an SE/30 which ran Mathematica (no
 kidding)
 and I think he used AUX for some processing that was harder under
 MacOS.
 


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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 The big question:
 Has anyone been able to print from his or 68k Mac to
 a new inkjet 
 using a os x/bsd/linux/windows print server yet?
 
 I would love to try but I do not own a usb inkjet
 right now.

Might be able to with one such as the Xerox Docuprint
M760 (Not the M750!). But I dunno about printing
from a 68k. Most likely can from a PowerMac.

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Robyn Lyons
As I said, Compaq/Lemark printers were really good. No Epson for color 
photo printing, but they handled most print jobs well, and you did get 
above average color quality. We use them (an A4000 right now) as our 
store fax, copier, and printer. We print color sale tags with them too. 
We recieve an average of 15 faxes a day. 4-5 pages of sale tags, and 
only need to replace to cart every few months. Cheap Lexmarks suck 
though, and Compaq did have a killer warranty in place, they would 
overnight you a new printer and all you had to do is pack up the old 
one and send it back prepaid in the box they sent.

I'd still rather have an Apple LaserWriter 12/660PS thoguh. I'd sell my 
right foot for one, and I use that foot a lot!

-Robyn

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 For my Compaq A3000 (a Lexmark scanner/copyer/printer
 in mufti) I can either print with the black cartridge
 and a three color cartridge or I can replace the black
 cartridge with a photo cartridge containing Black,
 Light Magenta and Light Cyan for six color printing.
 It does so good at copying color photos, I don't see
 how it could be much better with six colors. :)


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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I know GIMP is GNU Image Manipulation Program.
(It's crazy interface where _everything_ is all
off a single menu accessed by a rightclick turned
me off it right away.)

Ghostscript got that name from being a clone of
Adobe PostScript.

So what does CUPS stand for?

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Randy Beaudreault
The big question:
Has anyone been able to print from his or 68k Mac to a new inkjet
using a os x/bsd/linux/windows print server yet?

On this topic, what would I need to setup a print server using 
NetBSD, a Quadra, a Personal LaserWriter 300, and a Color StyleWriter 
2500.  I may not be able to run a print server from my G4 yet, but I 
can try one of my Quadras.
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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

2002-10-31 Thread Robyn Lyons
I believe that would be Common Unix Printing System (or Service, i 
forgot which).

-Robyn

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 So what does CUPS stand for?


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Re: OT: A/UX

2002-10-31 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Bummer about A/UX is lack of 24 bit video support, making the Thunder IIGX
 cards a regular slug instead of a rocket.

A/UX works in 24bpp with my 8*24*GC, but the GC control panel won't, so it's
really glacially slow. 16bpp is a better palette-speed compromise anyway.

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