Re: kicking myself

[J.S. Garrison]

on 3/12/04 5:22 PM, Eva Kosinski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> ...for getting rid of my macIIci's -- now I have
> someone trying to get a book off some old
> 400k floppies and I don't have a drive that
> can read them.
> 
> -Eva


We LOVE to say "I Told You So".. ;^)


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Re: IIsi hard drive problems... and re "kicking myself"

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Jim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - pop the top cover off the computer. As I recall
> there are two tabs at 
> the rear edge of the top cover which you simply pull
> up on and the lid with unhook and lift off

If nobody has been inside it or if someone has and
put *everything* back, there's a single Phillips
screw in the middle back to remove. Pretty much
standard from the IIcx through all the later 68k
Desktops and Pizza Boxes. (Dunno about the Mac II, IIx
and IIfx.)

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Re: IIsi hard drive problems... and re "kicking myself"

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Gai Early <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> floppies. Have been told that it's the grease in the
> little hard drive 
> motor which thickens if not in use. Any suggestions?
> I have a few short 
> stories on the hard drive...

Take the drive out, hold it flat and twist it back
and forth quickly a few times. The inertia of the
platters will try to keep them still while the rest
of the drive rotates.

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Re: IIsi hard drive problems... and re "kicking myself"

[Alex]

How about just putting the computer on it's side for half a day?

-Alex




On 12-Mar-04, at 10:01 PM, Gai Early wrote:

Next time I turned it on the hard drive wouldn't spin up. It will 
happily load from floppies. Have been told that it's the grease in 
the little hard drive motor which thickens if not in use. Any 
suggestions?
Hi:

Suggestion:

- ensure that you have disconnected the computer from AC power.
- disconnect the monitor and set it aside, especially if it is 
sitting on top of the computer (!)
- pop the top cover off the computer. As I recall there are two tabs 
at the rear edge of the top cover which you simply pull up on and 
the lid with unhook and lift off
- remove the power and signal connectors from the back of the hard drive.
- lift the hard drive out of the computer.
- hold the hard drive in your hand and "snap" it in a circular 
motion around the axis of the hard drive spindle. What you are 
trying to do is the "unstick" the hard drive spindle. There is no 
way to know if and when you have been successful but in my 
experience two or three swift snaps either does the job or you're 
toast.
- reassemble everything, turn on the computer, and see if the drive spins up.

Good luck!!

Jim Foster
President
Macintosh Users East [MaUsE]
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Re: IIsi hard drive problems... and re "kicking myself"

[Jim Foster]

On 12-Mar-04, at 10:01 PM, Gai Early wrote:

Next time I turned it on the hard drive wouldn't spin up. It will 
happily load from floppies. Have been told that it's the grease in the 
little hard drive motor which thickens if not in use. Any suggestions?
Hi:

Suggestion:

- ensure that you have disconnected the computer from AC power.
- disconnect the monitor and set it aside, especially if it is sitting 
on top of the computer (!)
- pop the top cover off the computer. As I recall there are two tabs at 
the rear edge of the top cover which you simply pull up on and the lid 
with unhook and lift off
- remove the power and signal connectors from the back of the hard 
drive.
- lift the hard drive out of the computer.
- hold the hard drive in your hand and "snap" it in a circular motion 
around the axis of the hard drive spindle. What you are trying to do is 
the "unstick" the hard drive spindle. There is no way to know if and 
when you have been successful but in my experience two or three swift 
snaps either does the job or you're toast.
- reassemble everything, turn on the computer, and see if the drive 
spins up.

Good luck!!

Jim Foster
President
Macintosh Users East [MaUsE]
http://www.mause.ca
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IIsi hard drive problems... and re "kicking myself"

[Gai Early]

Hello
I've just joined the list, nice to know some of the older Macs are 
still going strong! I have a IIsi which has a non-responsive hard 
drive... I had to buy a PC (ouch) because my workplace was using them 
and I was doing work at home as well and I needed internet access... 
Turned the IIsi off and it sat for a couple of months. Next time I 
turned it on the hard drive wouldn't spin up. It will happily load from 
floppies. Have been told that it's the grease in the little hard drive 
motor which thickens if not in use. Any suggestions? I have a few short 
stories on the hard drive...

Eva, re your 400k disk problem... maybe someone on the list could help 
to transfer the files to a better medium? Have you looked for data 
recovery services (horribly expensive I know). I am in Australia, but 
on another list there has been info on data recovery by US services - 
let me know if you would like me to post it on this list for you :-)

Gai

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kicking myself

[Eva Kosinski]

...for getting rid of my macIIci's -- now I have
someone trying to get a book off some old
400k floppies and I don't have a drive that
can read them.
-Eva

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Re: hello & hardware for sale

[John Niven]

Nat,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts - I enjoyed it. As I'm sure others 
will point out, the "for sale" part would be more effective sent to the 
LEM Swap list, which you should definitely sign up for. Make sure you 
read the rules first.

What OS do you use on your Classic II? This was my first Mac, and I 
still have it. I have a 2Gb HD installed (rescued from a HP 
workstation), and am running OS 6.0.8L with 10Mb of Ram. Note that the 
"L" version allows the Classic II to break the 8Mb limit of OS 6, due 
(I believe) to the fact that it has no expansion capability :-)

I also have SE/30's. I prefer the Classic II styling but love the 
expansion port so I can put an ethernet card in there. A must for any 
Mac, in these days of networking.

Now a wireless ethernet adaptor fitted into a Classic II would be wild 
:-) Any suggestions anybody?

Cheers,
   John
On Friday, March 12, 2004, at 02:00  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey folks!  I just joined this list.  I've been a member of the Compact
Macs mailling list for a while now.  My older Apple collection as it
stands now (these are the ones that are part of *MY* collection, that I
actually use, as opposed to the ones I have sitting in a closet or for
sale):


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hello & hardware for sale

[nathall]

Hey folks!  I just joined this list.  I've been a member of the Compact
Macs mailling list for a while now.  My older Apple collection as it
stands now (these are the ones that are part of *MY* collection, that I
actually use, as opposed to the ones I have sitting in a closet or for
sale):

Computers:
*Apple IIGS- Something that came into my posession as a unit to be sold.
I've wanted one of these since I was 13 years old (I'm now in my 20s), so
I saved it. I need a monitor for it, though, and it's probably too far
removed to be talked about on this list, so
*Macintosh Plus- My grandfather gave me this machine over ten years ago.
Had an external hard drive that died, curiously, shortly after the Plus
itself. I guess it was just meant to be.  Currently AWOL w/ a dead power
supply.
*Macintosh SE/30- Something I grabbed from my selling stock inventory,
just because it's got a 350MB hard drive. But the case has yellowed.  The
only Mac I own with a yellowed case.  Believe it or not, I prefer the
Classic II over the this one.  I don't need or use it's expansion port,
and 128MB of RAM on a compact Mac just seems ridiculous to me.  You can
tell this one has been used (it came originally from the University of
Washington), and I sometimes get the feeling it's going to die on me at
any moment.  I'll gladly take the 2-20% performance loss (depending on
which benchmark you run: video, memory, CPU, etc).  With what I use them
for, it's unnoticable.  Probably the least-used of my collection.
*Macintosh Classic II- A beautiful machine I acquired to replace the dead
Plus.  To this day, I still haven't gotten around to repairing the Plus
with a new power supply, despite it's sentimental value.  I love the
Classic II too much!  The "classic" Mac I use most during the week. Has a
much more 'reliable' and 'solid' feel than the SE/30, and is basically the
same machine minus the expansion slot (which I have no use for) and the
32bit data path.  Used on a daily basis.
*Macintosh IIsi- A recent adoption. Was part of my "for sale" gig and was
a complete system, I took a liking to it, cleaned it up, and I'm beginning
to use it.  Though I have to find a good spot for it in my apartment.
It's got the adapter to convert the PDS expansion slot into a NuBus
expansion slot.
*Macintosh Performa 630CD- Was the second Mac I ever owned after my
grandfather gave me the Plus.  I got it used sometime in the second half
of the 1990's for $30, complete with monitor, keyboard, and mouse, at a
computer shop.  I love this machine, too, and it comes in second as far as
use goes after the Classic II.  I recently nabbed one of those Mac to PC
video adapters from my "for sale" inventory and hooked the Performa up to
a nicer, bigger, beautiful flatscreen PC monitor.  Looks great. :)  I read
somewhere that this was on the "10 Worst Macs Ever Made" list.  And then I
read about someone who owned one of these Macs for years (35,000 hours of
operation?), and when it finally died, she replaced it not with a new Mac,
but with the exact same model.  Obviously, whoever wrote that 10-worst
list never owned one. :) Used on an almost-daily basis.

Hardware:
*SupraExpress 33.6 external modem on the Performa
*ImageWriter II- Originally came with the Plus my grandfather gave me.
Now used for the Classic II, or whatever else I want it for.
*Color StyleWriter 2400- A recent addition.  Actually haven't used it yet,
but it's hooked up to the Performa and ready to go.  I need some ink tanks
for it.
*External 100MB hard drive to complement the internal drive on the Classic
II.  Damn, I love that machine!
*External 80MB hard drive that is currently a floater between systems.
It'll be the permanent drive for the Plus, when it gets fixed.
*Two external 800k floppy drives.  One is on the Classic II, the other
waiting for the Plus to be repaired.

Honorable mention:
*Macintosh SE- One of the older models, with the dual 800k floppy drives.
The case looks good, and I'm thinking about pulling it from the stuff I
have for sale just because.  But I haven't decided yet.  It takes
something special to become a part of my collection. :) Once you're in,
you're in for *life.*



Anyway, I have some hardware available that might be of interest to list
members.  Please respond off-list if anything listed here interests you,
or you are looking for a specific piece of hardware!

Some of the things I am trying to get rid of:

*I have many Macintosh SE's of all configurations, and a few SE/30's.
*I have a Macintosh Centris 650 that works great with a 230MB hard disk,
and 8MB RAM.   This is the computer unit *only*, however.  I do not have a
monitor, keyboard, mouse, or power cable to sell along with it.  Though I
*have* tested it with my own equipment, and it *does* work just fine.
*I have a few of the old external 800k 3.5" disk drives left.
*I have quite a few 14.4kbps and 33.6kbps Global Village external modems,
complete in original packages.
*I have a Mac IIsi case, complete with motherb