Re: FTP Server software; Was: Re: LC Road Apple
I guess my point is: To everyone all over the world who advocates the continuing use of vintage Macs, scratch cheap FTP server off the list of practical uses. You should qualify that with 'cheap FTP server *in MacOS*' -- if you slap your favourite Unix on it, voila, you have a cheap FTP server. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When you're in love, the whole world is German! -- Hogan's Heroes -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE... There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very robust or buff FTP server, but it works and it doesn't cost anything. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. -- Tacitus - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE... There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very robust or buff FTP server, but it works and it doesn't cost anything. Does that actually support anything more than a single anonymous user? Nope. But he does seem desperate. :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The world only beats a path to your door when you're in the bathroom. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad
I know many people who would run right out and slap the money down for a G4/Dual G4 with AGP Pro and six or more PCI slots, no matter what it cost, because that is what they want. I'd buy one in a New York minute. I'm already nearly out of slots on my dual 1.25GHz G4. To bring this back on topic, dropping a NuBus slot from the IIci for built-in Ethernet on the Q700 wasn't *such* a bad idea since a lot of people were using one of the slots for Ethernet, but it would have been nice to have your cake and eat it too. And of course then there's the LC-type boxes which other than PDS have no expansion options at all. At least you could put *a* NuBus card in a IIsi with an adaptor. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ACTUAL CLASSIFIED AD: Parachute, used once, never opened, small stain. $100 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Portal
Anyone remember an Interactive Computer Novel called Portal, by Activision, circa 1986? It came on three 800k disks, and it wasn't really a game- you just moved back and forth between different control centers that gave you information that told the story. It was pretty cool for the time. I have the Commodore 64 version (both the Activision 1996 reissue and the original 5.25 floppies), and the book novel, signed by Rob Swigart himself :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To generalize is to be an idiot. -- William Blake -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci won't shut off?
Okay I'll check it out. This doesn't explain why this computer spontaneously started up after being idle for months. Thanks for the tip. No, it doesn't explain that -- my IIci did the same thing and it turned out to be a motherboard fault. I ended up swapping boards with a donor IIci. If the power button seems to be correctly positioned, try replacing the power supply first, and if not, replace the board. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MOVIE IDEA: Ferris Bueller's E-mail Signature -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Dragon's Lair Installation
Anyone have this? I rescued a copy from a thrift recently, picking up all the discs from the shelf, but couldn't find the manual. I have Space Ace by the same people, and you just run it from the CD. There is an optional 'customize to your hardware' that tries to determine the appropriate amount to pre-fetch, best graphics quality, etc., that your hardware supports. I think it's from the main menu. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The world only beats a path to your door when you're in the bathroom. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The Apple //e card only works
Yes if you want to play Lode Runner :-) w00t w00t! Can't see a better reason to own an old Apple or Commodore. ;) Nah, Realm of Impossibility is a better reason to own an old Apple or (particularly) Commodore (since the C64 version has a fabulous soundtrack). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Chemistry is applied theology. -- Augustus Stanley Owsley III -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Mac Plus and MIDI
Sometime ago, someone mentioned a (freely available?) MIDI sequencer package for System 6, and this would be a great use for my Mac Plus. Anyone remember? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /etc/motd: /earth is 98% full. please delete anyone you can. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.
Any exterior physical difference between an LC040 that linux will run on (albeit poorly) and one it won't run on at all? I know for a fact BSD will run until it encounters an FPU call then it Kernel Panics and dies. :) This isn't quite true. On one of the truly defective LC's (a known mask revision), yes. On the others, it will run fine, just slowly. There is a complex but possible alternative way around this using a userland FPU library and recompiling the distribution. This works; it's just a cumbersome installation process. All in all, the $25 I paid for my real 040 for the Q605-LCIII hybrid was totally worth it. I don't know if Linux has a work round for it. Scott already answered this question :-) We should move this to MaX. We get no traffic there :-( -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What is THIS man doing here?! -- Maj. Hochstetter, Hogan's Heroes -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.
Linux itself has FPU emulation, which is why it can work on thinks like a 486SX and such. However, a lot of the LC040s not only don't have an FPU, but are bugged in such a way that FPU emulation like Linux's or SoftFPU just plain won't work. I don't understand the logistics of it, but that's the way it is. It's a known bug in a certain mask revision that prevents the exception handling for FPU instructions from working correctly. The MacOS just works around this but neither Linux nor NetBSD does for some reason. A known workaround for NetBSD on these machines, besides pulling the CPU for a real 040, is to recompile everything with a userland FPU library and while quite cumbersome, this works fine. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gravity is a myth. The Earth just sucks. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: not a newbie btw.
right... i wonder, would it run on a Powerbook Duo230? that is my other machine at the moment - i have it and a LC III, i've thought about putting Linux on them but im really more inclined to stick with the Apple OS's - i've got enough linux boxen as it is! :-) Why not try NetBSD? http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/ I don't think the Duo is supported, but the LC3 is. It's much more mature than Linux on the Mac68k -- it's been around since the early 1990s when it started as MacBSD. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Conscience makes egotists of us all. -- Oscar Wilde -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: not a newbie btw.
I don't think the Duo is supported, but the LC3 is. It's much more mature than Linux on the Mac68k -- it's been around since the early 1990s when it started as MacBSD. can you actually still get copies of MacBSD? Not MacBSD as such -- the codebase was absorbed into NetBSD and became its 68k port. Allen Briggs might have some archival copies around, though (he was one of the original port group, along with people like Lawrence Kesteloot, etc.) Look here for how to contact him: http://www.macbsd.org/macbsd/ -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /etc/motd: /earth is 98% full. please delete anyone you can. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: not a newbie btw.
http://www.macbsd.org/macbsd/ Er, http://www.macbsd.com/macbsd/ -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /etc/motd: /earth is 98% full. please delete anyone you can. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 7100cx pictures
number. Apple used at least two different vendors (Delta and Astec, IIRC) At least three, I have a IIci with a GE PSU. I have a couple of these too. In fact, just anecdotally, I find the GE ones more reliable than the Astec ones. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismograph. -- Ken Kesey - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 68Ks in non-mac mac-stuff.
Its Ensoniq chip was capable of synthesizing fifteen simultaneous musical voices, and it had a separate 64K block of RAM memory dedicated specifically for that purpose. (quoted from the Apple II History). Remember, this was before sampled sound and MP3s. ;-) These little things are important to us former Apple II-ers. I rather like the IIgs -- as a 6502 phr33ak it's great to see the '816 in a practical atmosphere. It's too bad Apple withdrew support from the IIgs so rapidly. :-/ -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- M. L. King, Jr. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Muttley grumble without background and/or other sounds mixed in?
I'm seeking the Don Messick Muttley grumble without background and/or other sounds mixed in (I note that the Muttley snicker is indeed there at 80sNostalgia.com - Classic TV - Dastardly Muttley - Sounds by itself with no other sounds added in a .wav file, but unfortunately the Muttley grumble isn't there by itself). It's pretty easy to trim down, though. Speaking of Don Messick and Muttley, how about Don Messick as *Mumbly*? Anyone found any Mumbly sounds? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- FORTUNE: You're wise, but not wise enough not to read this sort of drivel. - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Making choices
I'm sure you're all aware of the campaign by Rick Bauer to destroy Low End Mac by telling our advertisers what a terrible site we are for allowing our writers to share some opinions Mr. Bauer disagreed with. http://www.lowendmac.com/musings/02/1030.html Man, what a brat. Do you have a postal or E-mail address for Mr. Bauer so we might give him a piece of our collective minds? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TRUE HEADLINE: Prostitutes Appeal to Pope -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCII...dead video?
Since then I've learned that all the LC series have this peculiarity: if the PRAM battery is dead, they boot up all right (you can hear the HD accessing), but the monitor remains black. The 61xx PowerMacs do the same. I dunno why; other Macs (e.g. IIci) will boot with a dead battery just fine, only show 1904 (or 1956) as the date. I had an LCIII that I had to pull the PRAM battery from (don't ask), but it still booted fine and everything. It forgot the date a fair bit, though. ;-) My Q605, though, was a different story when its PRAM battery failed. If you have a volt meter (get a cheap one at Radio Shack) you can check the battery; it should be 3.6V. That's the first thing I do with any problematical LC series or 61xx. If it's dead, you can also get a replacement at Radio Shack (tho they're cheaper from some Mac parts mailorder suppliers). Rat Shock charges about $11, which is ungodly. Even Fry's is half that (the last one I bought was under $6). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Too much of a good thing is wonderful. -- Mae West - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Solid State Storage -and- Compact Video
To quote the web server: Object not found! ITYM, to wit: Quoth the Web Server, 404! -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Why did the chicken cross the Moebius strip? To get to the other ... uh ... -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Localtalk/ethernet bridge
I was reading some of the messgaes refering to solid state storage and in the message from the original poster they mentioned that their LCII was now a localtalk/ethernet bridge. How did they do that? I want to do that but i don't know how as i can only select Localtalk OR ethernet. There's a control panel Apple distributes called LocalTalk Bridge that allows this (it's a free download, just search for it). Alternatively, you can also find a hardware LocalTalk/EtherTalk bridge like the Dayna EtherPrint-T or similar devices. Asante still manufactures theirs. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I see nothing! Nothing! -- Sgt. Schultz, Hogan's Heroes -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: unknown disk images
I have some disk images with a creator of IMGg and a type of GKON. That's the creator code for GraphicConverter, and it's quite possible that they aren't really disk images at all. Probably they end with an .img which is where the confusion lies? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'd love to go out with you, but I've dedicated my life to linguini. - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Amiga developers have much more initiative ;)
Too bad Apple doesn't make a Mac the size of the TX3. Could take one and run Basilisk II on it... Wasn't there a G3-based system called the Yellow Brick that was a miniature PPC server? I seem to remember Yellow Dog trumpeting it a year or so ago. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Look busy. Jesus is coming soon. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Amiga developers have much more initiative ;)
I've just spoken to a guy who is on a team designing and building a 220MHz Motorola Coldfire (cut down 68k thingy that runs FASSSTT) upgrade card for the Commodore Amiga. Don't forget the AmigaOne, also. I love the PowerPC, but an '060-based Classic Mac would have been *sweet*. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What you don't know won't help you much either. -- D. Bennett -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: 2 Mac Iisi Questions
My Mac Iisi: Try the IIsi RAM Muncher INIT. That munches up all of the 1 megabyte Bank A that is not being used by the video buffer. You can also just make a 768K disk cache in the Memory control panel, which has an equivalent effect. Or install an 8*24*GC. :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Life is too important to take seriously. -- Corky Siegel --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OT: A/UX
Bummer about A/UX is lack of 24 bit video support, making the Thunder IIGX cards a regular slug instead of a rocket. A/UX works in 24bpp with my 8*24*GC, but the GC control panel won't, so it's really glacially slow. 16bpp is a better palette-speed compromise anyway. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Greek tailor shop: Euripedes? Yes -- Eumenides? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Rethinking I.E. Browsers
I still use a Win3.1 box now and then. So do I. Ironically, in the earlier context, it *does* run Calmira II. To get back on topic sort of, I once tried to install Win3.1 on VPC but it didn't like it much. I guess I'd need SoftWindows of some earlier incarnation for that. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus video card?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1773385139 Upon looking at the picture my first guess was that it was a PCI-based card. After asking the seller about it his reply was: Actually it is a NUBUS card. High performance video cards for NUBUS macs use the PDS slot, the cards look like PCI but they are not. After looking at the card again I still think it's PCI...anyone out there who can tell me if I'm right or wrong? I don't mind being wrong...just need to be educated. Thanks! The seller is about 80% correct. It is intended for the HPV slot of the 7100, which is NuBus. I have one in my 7100. However, the seller is correct in saying it's not PCI. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. -- 1 Corinthians 8:1 --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System 7.something for x86?
Ehhh, why bother when there's Basilisk II? ;) I like Fusion for DOS, too. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quote for the day: --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Video Card
I have a 12 card in front of me. At one end it says 1999,90 Apple Computer 670-0310. At the other end, 820-0310-05 Macintosh Display 8*24*GC. It HAS two empty 68-pin sockets (for Global??? vram I think). Doesn't seem to be any better than a Radius Precision Color 8*24X. It isn't, without the control panel. Once you have the control panel for the GC installed, your video output speed jumps enormously. Without it, it's just a regular 8*24 (the control panel redirects QuickDraw to the card's firmware and accelerates performance). Trust me, the speed difference *is* noticible. My IIsi flies with it. The disadvantage of it is that you'll get a lot of video artifacting if you're above 7.1, but since all I use is 7.1, that's actually no problem. Again, the control panel is to blame. However, the other neat thing is that it seems to work for Power Macs, too (or at least that's what I've been told); I've been tempted to get another one for my 7100 and see if the ATI Extension accelerates it as others have hinted. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MOVIE IDEA: Ferris Bueller's E-mail Signature -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Video Card
Is this just because Sony makes sure their monitors can handle Mac video? Sony monitors typically use sync on green when needed. Most other companies didn't bother building this capability in. With some DIP switch gyrations, or the proper NEC Mac-NEC multisync converters, the NEC MultiSync XV15+ takes sync-on-green too (I'm using it with two IIcis and a IIsi -- one IIci with motherboard video, the other two with 8*24*GC video cards). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is the business of little minds to shrink. -- Carl Sandburg - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A/UX...is free?
Is A/UX free? If it is, where could I get it? Apple still owns copyright on it and they have not released it. I suspect there is some ATT proprietary code in the kernel that they do not have rights to release freely (it's based on System V). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To err is human -- to forgive is not company policy. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
FM Pro 2.1 and System 6
Will FileMaker Pro 2.1 run on System 6.0.8? How much RAM does it need? I'm hoping to use my Mac Plus (with 2.5MB RAM) to do some work using it, but I don't want to go to heroic lengths to get it running if it will be fruitless :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In memory of Commodore Business Machines (1954-1994) --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Not really a Mac, but pretty cool
Apple made a color composite monitor fittingly called the AppleColor Composite Monitor. I guess back then they still liked simplicity. You can get them on ebay for cheap because they weigh A LOT! Thirty pounds as per this guy: Hmm. Turns out I have one in my storage shed. If someone is interested, I'll let it go for cheap (though it is large, so shipping will not be so cheap), but contact me off list to avoid nanny irritation. I don't need it myself. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'd love to go out with you, but I'm braiding my dental floss. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIsi problems
I seem to recall that the IIsi ROM SIMM has some value -- how much do you think it is worth? Bryan Kattwinkel The IIsi (or IIfx) ROM simm in an SE/30 makes it 32 bit clean and allows the SE/30 to run 7.6.1, 8.0, or 8.1. This is not a rumour. I've done it. With internal grayscale. Wait, it *adds* internal greyscale?? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- We won. Every computer in the world is basically a Mac now. -- S. Wozniak - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIsi problems
Not by itself. Several of the XCeed cards, along with the external color monitor port, also included a port for a replacement yoke that gave it internal grayscale. Although both the card and the grayscale adapter are quite rare, the adapter is nearly non existent. Fortunately, someone managed to duplicate it. So, as long as you can find the right card, you too can have internal grayscale. This I knew about, but I was kind of hoping ... :-) I want one! :) Of course, I don't even have an SE/30 (yet?) but it would be nice. I've got an SE/30 that used to be the bootserver for a farm full of Apple IIgs systems. Kind of a neat idea. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Internet is, once again, your friend (I wrote this *before* PacBell!) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Not really a Mac, but pretty cool
Yes, it is true. All Apple computers were color capable. Of course, if your Apple II is on a monochrome monitor like mine, it won't be. -On the IIc: I think the IIc has an RGB monitor port on the back (I know the GS does). Actually it should have composite out too, if memory serves. There are various Apple II and Commodore monitors that will take this signal, or you can plug it into your VCR's video in. But you already knew that. :-) If it does, you should be able to use any Macintosh monitor with it. The IIgs' RGB video output is *not* compatible with any Mac monitor I've encountered, but only its own unique matching monitor (believe me, I've tried). My IIgs likes its own specific monitor, period. But the colour and detail on it is excellent, so it's well worth looking for. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC/Quadra interbreeding....
I'm even using the LC top and the Q bottom, just to complete the image. :-) They are interchangeable?? WOW!!! We could see my Q805 hack get bigger on either side!! The fit isn't perfect, no, but it's pretty good. I actually did this not so much for laughs but because I was striking a compromise. I like the flatter bottom of the Q, but the LC had a nice white case (the Q's was clearly out in the sun too long). So I stuck the LC's top to make it look good, and used the Q bottom to make it flatter. Perhaps I'll spray paint the Q bottom, or try to grind down to white plastic (but this tends to degrade the texture and I don't want to lose that either). However, it *is* more fun to have an LC III than a Q605 :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Immigration is the sincerest form of flattery. -- Jack Paar -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Not really a Mac, but pretty cool
Apple II and Commodore monitors that will take this signal, or you can plug it into your VCR's video in. But you already knew that. :-) You've nailed my apple][ setup. :) Good little monitors the Commodore 1084s Excellent monitors. So are the 1702s. I keep lots on hand, not just for my *real* Commodores, but for my other systems which the Commodore monitors do just dandy for (TI, Apple II, Atari, etc.) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BOND THEME NOW PLAYING: Moonraker -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIsi problems
I seem to recall that the IIsi ROM SIMM has some value -- how much do you think it is worth? Potentially a lot to an SE/30 owner. Perhaps you'd like to test the rumour that it makes an SE/30 32-bit clean, or lend it to someone trustworthy who can? pickle or Gregg might try; I've got an SE/30 sitting around doing nothing too. (Not for sale, tho'.) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 10% of computer users [use] Mac ... the top 10 percent. -- Douglas Adams --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Apple prototype on eBay, wish it was mine!
There's a Power Express on eBay now, 3 days left. That's a 275Mhz G3 with 6 PCI slots and tons of other stuff Apple never had on any Mac they actually shipped. 'scuse me while I mop up the drool. ;) Wish it were mine too. Hope Tom Owad gets it. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Time is what keeps everything from happening at once. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
VideoSpigot
Shortly to become the owner of a brand spanking old VideoSpigot card + software. Anyone know of any gotcha with this thing? I've heard it has issues with QT 1.6.1 but I'd like to know if this has been actually observed by anyone. (I'm just planning to use ScreenPlay only to capture stills and video, not a QT-compliant third-party app.) The target system is a IIci + 24MB RAM, Daystar '030 50MHz, OS 7.1, QT 2.0 (but this is negotiable, since I don't use QT much on it), 8*24*GC video card. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Philosophy will clip an angel's wings. -- John Keats --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520 and the CD Caddy
Ok, perhaps a silly question, but I scored a LC 520 thrift store find this week, and in the front left there is a covered slot named CD Caddy. SCSI Probe says there is a CD-ROM drive in the machine. BUT: Apple CD Player tells me it can't find it, and, if I attempt to put a CD into the caddy, it looks like it's just going to drop in the computer. I'm not being insulting here :-) ... but you know what a caddy is, right? Older CD-ROM drives required the CDs to be put in a special CD caddy carrier which was replaced with the tray on modern drives. Put the CD label-side up into the CD caddy, and insert the caddy into the CD-ROM. Caddies are cheap and regularly turn up at junk swaps and the like. If you know what one is, please disregard me. *grin* -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MOVIE IDEA: Raiders of the Lost E-mail Signature --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: local talk from Powerbook Duo 230 to a G4 tower?
i'll look into this for when i 'adopt' it home i think... might be a little complex for the office setup, although a hardware adapter would be useful I've got a Dayna EtherPrint-T that works great for LocalTalk work. The Mac Plus and IIgs systems bridge through it and share files happily (if somewhat more slowly, since LocalTalk isn't *that* quick). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Know what I hate most? Rhetorical questions. -- Henry N. Camp - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Don't get me wrong, I am really enjoying the multiple digests from Vintage
P.S. What about this naming of computers? Someone told me that if you name your computer, it will give you less trouble and more fun. Any truth to that? I think so (for bonus points, name the person/device these are named after): andrew, IIci (MacOS) mr. t, Mac Plus bil, Commodore 128DCR andy, IIsi jonathan, 7300+G3 victor, VIC-20 thomas, Tomy Tutor jack, C64 dave, Plus/4 woz, Apple IIgs gordon, 486 laptop alex, 486 PC chuck, Commodore PET 2001 irving, Commodore PC-20-III steve, SE/30 nolan, Atari XE GS plus benji, PB1400 rover, Commodore SX-64 fido, HP 95LX spot, NEC 8201A and lorraine, Amiga 500 and stella, Atari VCS sylvia, Sylvania Intellivision sadie, Sega Dreamcast The Unix hosts are named after cities: reykjavik: Solbourne S4100/36 stockholm: Apple Network Server 500/200 thule: IIci (NetBSD) No, I'm not married. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism. - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Holy Double Display, Batman!
Another clue is that the IIgs monitor has a rounded back, whereas the Mac monitor has a square (beveled) back. *And*, the IIgs monitor has a detachable cable. In fact, when I first got a IIgs AppleColor monitor, I was quite irritated to find the cable had been removed and had to scrounge one up. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just another Sojourner of the Dispersion (1 Peter 1:1) - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System 7.1 vs. System 7.1.1 (pro)
Also incidently, 7.1 really flies on an '040 ;) 7.1 really flies on anything. :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- All science is either physics or stamp collecting. -- Ernest Rutherford -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System 7.1 vs. System 7.1.1 (pro)
I don't have documentation at hand at the moment, but as I recall the above description of 7.1.1 is correct: 7.1 + PowerTalk (another much-touted Apple technology that was abandoned so quickly hardly anyone remembers it now--some kind of network conferencing?). It was 7.1.2, I think, that shipped with the first PowerMacs (61xx). Yes. My 7100, at least, has 7.1.2 on its system CD. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it. -- Abbie Hoffman - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System 7.1 vs. System 7.1.1 (pro)
Also incidently, 7.1 really flies on an '040 ;) 7.1 really flies on anything. :-) It doesn't fly on an SE, I downgraded mine to 6.0.8 'cause I got fed up with it taking a few years to boot. I admit I had a few extra extensions installed but, non the less, basic things like the speed at which windows open, close, resize and move around are much slower than System 6. I will admit it is decidedly wwp on a IIci with a Turbo 040, but again 6.0.8 is MUCH faster ;) :P Well, this is true. 6.x just wallops everything else for speed -- my Mac Plus still runs it and it screams, even for a plain jane Plus. But 7.1 is still wonderful. The IIsi and the IIcis and the Fusion PC all adore it. My SE/30 still runs 6.x but for other reasons; AppleShare v2, which I need to netboot GS/OS for the IIgs farm, doesn't like 7.x much. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Why was I born with such contemporaries? -- Oscar Wilde -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
My 'pimped' IIci only has an 8*24*GC, a 1GB Seagate Hawk, 24MB RAM and a Daystar 50MHz '030+FPU, plus a Farallon EtherWave card. It does the job. Pimped meaning what here, please? pimped out being roughly synonymous for tricked out depending on your age, dialect and funky personality. :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quote me as saying I was misquoted. -- Groucho Marx -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Benchmarks and Daystars
For example, the Daystar PowerCentral control panel seems to accelerate FPU performance on the IIci, even with no Daystar hardware installed. Apparently you had the PowerMath switch on. That redirects any SANE math calls normally processed by the CPU to the FPU. It works even with an 030 PowerCache that doesn't have an FPU installed. Evidentially you wrote your benchmark to use SANE functions. SieveAhl is indeed 100% SANE, but it seems strange that SANE wouldn't do that already on the IIci. Doesn't SANE use the FPU if present? The docs I consulted allege that it would (SANE F-traps mapped automatically to equivalent FPU instructions if an '881/'882 is present), and my results bear this out (Ahl 567% with no '882 in the IIsi, but 948% with). Perhaps the PowerMath code is just more efficient at mapping the calls? I guess the logical test for that would be to stick it on a IIsi without an FPU (so that call overhead, not FPU performance, is being tested), and see if SANE performance is similarly accelerated. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There is no Dark Side of the Moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Benchmarks and Daystars
but it seems strange that SANE wouldn't do that already on the IIci. Doesn't SANE use the FPU if present? I have a dim recollection of reading that it depends on which OS it is. You might add OS versions to your suite of tests. :-) I did find OS differences, yes -- the SE/30's FPU score was better on 7.1 than on 6.0.8, for example. The history bears this out, too, since today I found some references in Apple tech docs about an Omega SANE that came out with 7.1 for the IIci. I wonder how one could tell what version of SANE is running. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a great TV movie. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished
I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit unreal. A IIci with 32 mb ram, a 500 mb hd and 33 mhz 68040 is definetely not tricked out. It can contain 4 times as much ram, a much and much larger hard disk and there are faster upgrades (ppc 601) available. I stuck 128MB in my NetBSD IIci and it takes nearly three minutes to get through the start-up RAM check :-) but it never, ever swaps. My 'pimped' IIci only has an 8*24*GC, a 1GB Seagate Hawk, 24MB RAM and a Daystar 50MHz '030+FPU, plus a Farallon EtherWave card. It does the job. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Apathetic dyslexic agnostic: I don't care if there's a dog --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Benchmarks and Daystars
While trying to benchmark Fusion PC (as a IIci) on my AMD DOS PC, I threw together a small implementation of the Sieve of Eratosthenes and Ahl's Simple Benchmark to test integer and FPU performance. Like everything else in my life, this snowballed, so here is the fruit of my labours for people who are interested in benchmarking their 68K Macintosh. http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/mac/ahl/ The reference is a Mac Plus running 6.0.8 with 2.5MB RAM and the stock 8MHz 68000 CPU. However, to make it really vintage, I tested it against a Mac Plus running System 1.1 and it worked! 512K RAM recommended. Just to prove I have a sense of humour, the benchmark is in Modula-2. Some of the tests ran on my classic Mac stable had rather startling results. For example, the Daystar PowerCentral control panel seems to accelerate FPU performance on the IIci, even with no Daystar hardware installed. Comments? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There's an old proverb that says just about whatever you want it to. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Whining Drives
Does anyone have experience with Seagate ST15150N drives? Is it normal for them to be incredibly noisy in a whiney sort of way? I'm not complaining because these came in a two-drive SCSI enclosure that I thought to contain no working drives whatsoever. But these two drives both seem to work. They are just so noisy, I can't imagine anyone working in a room with them and it makes me wonder whether I should even trust data on them. It is an obscenely loud drive, yes. It is also faster than greased lightning and generates enough heat to contribute to global warning. Keep it well ventilated. The ST15150N is a real hot-rod in both speed and temperature. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is necessary to have purpose. -- Alice #1, Star Trek I, Mudd -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci doesn't mount
1. Currently, when I boot my IIci with an external HD attached, the icon for the external SCSI disc doesn't show up. The disc has a large 2 GB Hfs partition, nothing else, SCSI IDs aren't changed, and the disc works fine connected to the PMac (both underMacOS as hfsutil) William already suggested Mt. Everything which would be my first guess to see if the drive is okay, also. If you have Drive Setup there, I'd fire that up and make sure the drive's automount flags are also set, and check that the partitions are okay, including the driver. I think I know the cause, I had a problem with my DayStar accel(using powercentral made booting NetBSD impossible), and tried to remove its software as a MacOS nitwit. I probably removed something I shouldn't have :-) I already tried to install a minimal 7.5.5 over it, but that didn't help. Try blasting the MacOS partition from a boot floppy and re-installing a minimal System. I prefer 7.1 for this, though obviously it's not free for download (I'm lucky to have a real retail box of 7.1 install floppies). Installing another system over another system, unless you really mean to upgrade, is considered bad mojo. 2. Same IIci, same 2Gb external SCSI but before the above problems arose; It refuses to boot from that external SCSI :-) It did before, but then the system disc was a 200 MB partition, not the whole disc. The NetBSD docs mention that the booter has a problem with booting partitions that extend the first so-and-so much MBs. (+/- 300 MB IIRC). Does that also apply to MacOS? You mean the FAQ? That's very old news. My NetBSD partition is almost 2GB in size and has no problem starting up from the Booter. I'm running 1.5.2 and 1.11g (I think, have to check) of the Booter app. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The reader this message encounters not failing to understand is cursed. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8*24GC Software
At 09:13 +1000 on 21/06/02, Vaughan Bromfield wrote: I recently found an extension called 8_24 GC QuickTime_ Video on the If anyone figures out what this is, exactly, I'm interested in knowing... The control panel can be had from Apple for free, and it's newer, I think. Well, I tried the QuickTime extension out with the 7.0.1 GC control panel and it hung during bootup, so I guess it's not compatible with 7.0.1. I'll grab 7.0 and try it later. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, Jim. -- M:I -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8*24GC Software
I, too, would love to see that GC QuickTime file. If it's an accelerator for QuickTime under a GC, I'd *really* love to see it. Cameron Kaiser Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you see it at: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/download/8-24GC_QuicktimeVideoExt/. It came with control panel 7.0. Is it compatible with control panel 7.0.1? I've got it downloaded and I'll try it out this weekend sometime. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What is THIS man doing here?! -- Maj. Hochstetter, Hogan's Heroes -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8*24GC Software
If anybody has an 8*24GC card for (real) cheap I'd be interested in getting one for my IIfx. If you got one I'm not sure you would be pleased with it. It's a rather finicky card, subject to all sorts of OS and other limitations. See Worth of 8*24GC card links at my site. I seem to be the GC's only proponent around here, but I love them, and all of my NuBus systems have one as their primary video card. Noticibly faster video paints and access, and nice colour. And since I never use anything above 7.1 on these fellas, it's no compatiblity problem at all. I, too, would love to see that GC QuickTime file. If it's an accelerator for QuickTime under a GC, I'd *really* love to see it. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Due to budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off. - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AAUI networking
Why not buy a 10 pack kit of PhoneNet adaptors from eBay (I did), and connect the Macs via printer port? A good kit will have the terminators and the lines. Because it's RIDICULOUSLY slow compared to Ethernet except on maybe an SE. It is cheap and easy, though. I have half the apartment on LocalTalk now that I have a working bridge and the total cost was around $5 for a 50' length of 4-conductor phone wire. People are just giving PhoneNet boxes away :-) The speed ain't so good, but it's really convenient. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The older a man gets, the farther he had to walk to school as a boy. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AAUI networking
Well, when you add the PC, go to miramarsys.com, and they have a AppleTalk software fo the PC. I know, I use it all the time I've got a LocalTalk card for my 486 that has been fabulous. In fact, I never bothered to get its NIC running because the LocalTalk connection has been all I needed to share files and even print to the LaserWriter right from DOS. Total cost: $0.00 (someone was getting rid of the LT card). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Any clod can have the facts, but having an opinion is an art. -- C. McCabe - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
System 6 programmers ...
Hey, System 6 programmers (all four of you), Anyone remember how the mst# resource works and/or is laid out for accepting open and quit events? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing. -- R. L. Ash - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System problem
Please, please, move this thread to MaX! We really do love new users there and won't abuse them too roughly! OK, when I installed A/UX on my IIci yesterday I partitioned the disk up with 256MB surplus for a non-A/UX System (separate from the MacPartition). I installed Sys 6.0.8 on it and was thoroughly impressed to get a 10 second boot cycle on a hot reset and an 18 second boot from cold. I now have a problem that I can't get it to boot the A/UX System 7 partition, no matter how many times I tell it to in System 6. What do I do? Hmm -- haven't tried the booter in System 6, but if you're not 32-bit clean, you may be SOL. See what it does. I don't know if the booter even works in 6.x. On my System 7.1 IIci, I have an alias to the booter on the MacPartition in the Startup Items folder of the main MacOS partition. A/UX really doesn't care which partition is booting it. The reason I have the MacPartition and my main MacOS partition separated is actually for upgrades which may merrily destroy your main MacOS partition if you don't give them the MacPartition to work on. The 3.1 upgrade is one such (notorious) example. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Obscenity is the last refuge of a weak mind. -- Bonnie Fortney - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A/UX
OK, I am going to try this the newbie way. Does anyone know where there are step by step installation instructions for A/UX that are written for beginners? I have tried reading the FAQ Gregg posted but it, as he said, is real info overload. Well, I have my own notes posted at http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/os/aux/ It's not really step by step but it may help. Of course, this is really better off in MaX where we have hardly any traffic and would welcome a new, relevant discussion thread, hint hint :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There is no Dark Side of the Moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A/UX Stage II
Please, please, move this into MaX list! Others will benefit! :-) I installed A/UX all fine and well but it refuses to work with my CD drive as it's not an Apple drive. I know it works with the CD-ROM 5.3.1 INIT but I don't know how to get A/UX to load that on booting into the A/UX'd Mac OS. I need the CD Drive to do the 3.1 update, unless I AppleTalk it of another Mac but having a functioning CD Drive would be a general bonus anyway. Very simple. Assuming you have not configured users to have individual System Folders, boot A/UX and go into the System Folder on / (not on the MacPartition or on any other MacOS partitions). Place your INITs, CDEVs, etc., into the Extensions folder there. Please be very careful about this, as 32-bit dirty INITs may very likely cause you to be *unable* to get back into A/UX. I found this out the hard way with the 8*24*GC CDEV. You'll have to undergo the harrowing experience of rooting around in the Launcher shell. The other thing is how do I configure all the server services, do they have MacOS tools or are they all text file based? They are typically text file based. Make sure inetd is starting (it's enabled by switching it on in /etc/inittab, I think). Then modify /etc/inetd.conf -- warning: it isn't terribly current in its format. Lastly, are there any archives of pre-compiled A/UX software? I am useless at compiling stuff and also didn't install any of the programming tools. Naughty. ftp.mayn.de had a few on their jagubox mirror. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The best defense against logic is ignorance. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A/UX Stage II
Very simple. Assuming you have not configured users to have individual System Folders, boot A/UX and go into the System Folder on / (not on the MacPartition or on any other MacOS partitions). Place your INITs, CDEVs, etc., into the Extensions folder there. Er, Extensions, Control Panels, you know what I meant. :-P -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MOVIE IDEA: Raiders of the Lost E-mail Signature --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A/UX Problem
I'm trying to install 3.0.1 on my IIci. I have an external Apple CD300 (borrowed form my 840av) hung on the machine in a jury rig and it definitely works. I boot the machine form the A/UX Boot Install floppy and it just brings up a blank desktop with no drives or anything and nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? You do have the CD in the CD drive, right? (Just checking :-) How much memory is installed in the IIci? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Well done is better than well said. -- Benjamin Franklin --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A/UX Problem
You do have the CD in the CD drive, right? (Just checking :-) Yeh, thanks for that ;) How much memory is installed in the IIci? 8MB, do I need more? I don't *think* so but just to point out, my A/UX IIci has 24MB in it. With 30-pin RAM being so cheap I'd put some more in it anyway, whether or not you get A/UX running. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- How are you gentlemen? All your base are belong to us! - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Dayna EtherPrint-T and AppleShare
Will a Dayna EtherPrint-T work for connecting, say, a LocalTalk Mac into an EtherTalk network, or does it only work for printers? In other words, is it a true LocalTalk-to-EtherTalk bridge? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The whippings shall continue until morale improves. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Dayna EtherPrint-T and AppleShare
I had my IIfx connected to my network via a Dayna Mini Etherprint. I assume it was able to see all the AppleTalk file servers you had? My Dayna has 2 ports. I had the IIfx and a LaserWriter connected to the Dayna, and the Dayna hooked into a hub, which is hooked into a switch, which is connected to a router. What if I have one port and several PhoneNet boxes? Will all the machines connected to the single LocalTalk port still see everything? -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Okay, who stopped payment on my reality check? - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Apple IIGS / Mac Network
Presumably, they were somehow booting across the network, from the Mac II? Yes, they were. I have a SE/30 and a IIgs that were originally configured this way, and the IIgs can netboot from the SE/30. I've never been able to get the IIgs to boot into GS/OS but it will come up in ProDOS. Only ROM 03 IIgs systems can netboot. Set the boot slot in the Control Panel to AppleTalk and it will immediately seek out a compatible server. Once it gets its bootblock, it will ask for a username and password, and continue loading from the server. The SE/30 has 6.0.8, AppleShare v2, Apple II boot blocks, and various Apple II apps on board. I believe AppleShare v3 was the last version to support Apple II netbooting, so modern Macs are no longer capable of this. Of course, now that the IIgs has its own hard disk, I no longer need to do this trick, but it's still neat. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In independent studies, research was found to cause cancer in rats. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
Yeah, but does it work without a card installed? ISTR the Daystar control panels don't work so well without an accelerator in place. Would be easy enough for someone to try. :) Drop it in the control panels folder then see if it will run. If it will, check the box to disable the RAM test. Bleah, is this only in the Turbo 601 CP? Something else to test. Use the Power Central CP for the 030 PowerCache and see if using just the PowerMath switch does anything for integer and floating point benchmarks. Supposedly that setting redirects all SANE math calls from the CPU to the FPU, using the Mac's onboard FPU if it has one and the PowerCache card doesn't. I've tried this before and ISTM that it does make a difference (though not as much as cache!) in Snooper benchmarks. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What you don't know won't help you much either. -- D. Bennett -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
I think the IIci/Q700 has the inverse problem to the Quadra 8xx and 8x00 Macs. Not so good (although, like the SE/30 is has it's charms ;) ) outside, roomy and well made inside. Anyone who has use a mighty 8 will know it's not a nice case to work in but it looks coool :). The classic Mac case I most despise above all else is one they used for the Performa 630 and others like it. The slideout motherboard is cool but I could never get it aligned properly without a lot of fighting, and the whole metal shell idea is aggravating. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- E pluribus Unix -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: looking for email/network help
Thanks, can you tell me what to look for in a Ethernet card for the IIci? Myself, I like the Farallon EtherWave NuBus cards. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Klein bottle for immediate occupancy; inquire within. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci hotrodding
--oh--and make sure you get a rocket and the mission control software that goes with it. then you can have the roar of the engines, when you start it up. [ pickle, you explain it to them] Heh heh heh heh...what a great sound. Quite possibly the most hardcore, badass startup sound ever to grace a Macintosh or accelerator card. If you've never heard it, you should buy a Rocket just for the fun of listening to that startup sound. It even makes crashes exciting because when you crash, it means you're that much closer to hearing it again. Is this sound just a resource? Perhaps it could be extracted from the Rocket extension/CDEV/whatever so we all can share in the joy. :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- FORTUNE: Good day for romance, but try a single person this time. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Another IIci question
And pretty much any of them are outrageously fast with System 6. (The Turbo 601s won't work with 6, but the rest of the Daystars for the IIci will.) The DayStar 030 PowerCache also works with A/UX! :) Ooo! I'll have to try that! -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Eggheads unite! You have nothing to lose but your yolks. -- Adlai Stevenson -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mouse Systems Corp.'s A+ Mouse ADB ?
The other one is the sensor. It most likely needs a special mouse pad. I spoke to a guy not so long ago, or it may have been on a list, that had a few Mouse Systems optical mice. They have metal mouse pads with dots on IIRC. The Mouse Systems mouse that I have connected to my Solbourne S4100/36 has a metal mouse pad with a dark silver ink grid on it. It won't work with anything else. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are few problems that the liberal usage of high explosives can't cure. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SCSI, DMA, performance: IIfx vs other Macs
Ah, yes. The high performance 6502 like I have in my pre-Macintosh Atari 800? ;-)The speed gain was from relieving the CPU of IO housekeeping. The 6502 also ran both the most successful '2nd generation' personal computers, the BBC Mirco (mostly successful in UK and Austrailia) and the Apple // which I'm sure no-one here has heard of ;). I have only ever seen one Apple // in passing but I have 2 BBC Master 128 machines (the last and best BBC Micro) under my desk :). And don't forget the Commodore 64, which still holds the Guinness record for the most successful single computer model of all time. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Army needs leaders the way a foot needs a big toe. -- Bill Murray -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: List administrivia
For the first time in the four year history of these lists (Quadlist, our first, was launched on November 10, 1997), someone is threatening legal action after being banned several times from one of our lists. What a jerk. Let us know how we can help if he makes good on the threat. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In memory of Greg Morris --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Apple IIgs
Is this the list for info/help on the Apple IIgs? If not, could someone direct me to one, please? Probably not, try the classiccmp list: http://www.classiccmp.org/ But anyway, We received one of these, with an 800k floppy drive. I can plug an ADB keyboard and mouse into it but don't know where to go from there. It chimes twice when starting up and the light on the front panel is green. I can't get a display on an Apple 14 monitor. What type of monitor are you using, a Mac monitor or a real IIgs monitor? Do you have the right cable? What happens when you plug a composite monitor (many TVs and VCRs can take this signal) into the composite output? Where can I find manuals for this? What troubleshooting do I need to perform on this (kinda cool) relic? What are the uses for one of these nowadays, aside from collector's wanting them? You can stick a hard drive and some extra RAM in it, run GS/OS, and have a nice little word processor or with Marinetti even surf the web. Plus there's all the old Apple ][ stuff you can run on it like AppleWorks and those terrible games that I prefer to play on my Commodore 64 :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Xerox never comes up with anything original. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: blocking ad servers
What was the no answering? That you can't use wildcards, or that using one wouldn't block all flycast traffic? Using one would work (ostensibly) but OpenTransport doesn't support it. At least, it looks like it *should* work, right? :-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- He whose face gives no light, shall never become a star. -- William Blake -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Blocking ad-servers?
apps from trying to download anything from these two servers. Both Netscape and IE just sit there forever trying to download some file that doesn't exist. I assume it works on Windows (I put them in the hosts file last night but haven't tried it yet.) but when I tried those lines on the Mac it just hollered about js-adex3.flycast.com being an invalid type. Yay! Another business as usual useless error message. :P OpenTransport uses a nonstandard hosts file (surprise, surprise). You have to put it in this form: hostname.domain.com A dotted0.quad0.address0.here0 example, js-adex3.flycast.comA 127.0.0.1 This is reminiscent of a name server file you'd feed Unix named except that there's no TTL field. However, calling it a hosts file is a misnomer because amazingly Windows actually plays fair and uses the same format as Unix hosts would, which AFAIK is where the file originated. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ADB joysticks at Fry's San Diego: $1.99
I found MacALLY ADB joysticks at Fry's San Diego for $1.99 each -- get them while they last. Which model? How many buttons? It's the older two button one, white with orange fire-buttons and an ADB pass-through for your mouse. I don't know the model number. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Generating random numbers is too important to be left to chance. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Where has my mind gone?
I'm drawing a blank here... I just read this cartoon that made a reference to Where have all my files gone? I recall that being something to do with the update from System 7 to OS 8, but for the life of me I can't remember WHAT, and Google's no help! Someone please tell me so I can quit agonizing over it. Because I have nothing better to do. As I have nothing better to do either, you're referring to the text file that Mac OS 8.0 or lower sees on HFS+ volumes (instead of the file system). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing, but mean your mother. --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Transferring stuff from 2gs to Macs
I have obtained an old apple 2gs and a 2ci. I would like to transfer a few things forward from the old 5 disks onto floppys- and then ultimately onward to my 950. I have an external drive for each size and have connected them to the 2gs and / or the 2ci. Problem: can't get the 800k floppy to read from the 2gs and can't get the 5 disks to read from the 2ci.Is there anybody here that could nursemaid me through transferring info from those older than old dinosaurs. ACK! DO NOT CONNECT THE 5.25 DRIVES TO A MAC! You're lucky you haven't fried your floppy controller already! You'll have to transfer these files over 3.5 disks in the IIci. Use GS/OS or a program like Copy II+ on the GS to copy the files from the 5.25 disks onto a ProDOS 3.5 disk, and with Apple File Exchange or PC Exchange, these should be directly readable in the Mac. Don't use DOS 3.3 disks for this. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In youth we learn; in age we understand. -- Von Ebner-Eschenbach --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
OT: eMate 300
Definitely OT, but also definitely Apple. Does anyone know of, or have a connection for, eMate spare parts? I've picked up an eMate 300 with a cracked LCD but otherwise intact. Thanks! -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The best of all: God is with us. -- John Wesley -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: old macs/new RAM
old machine or is stuck using the original specs? I have an old 4400 too that I'd like to try to upgrade. But old RAM seems a little expensive or hard to find. At least up here in Canada. The 4400 uses standard edo ram. Must be pretty cheap, those modules were also used in most wintel pc's back then. I am not sure about the 7200 dimm's. The 7200 requires FPM Apple 168-pin DIMMs, not EDO (in fact, EDO may cause permanent damage). They should be 70ns or better (I recommend 60). FPM is quite cheap these days, relatively speaking. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Really WOW! I'm shallow TOO! --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Speaking of Mobo Swapping..
I've got both a loaner 7100 and my IIci open, and I'm unconvinced. Yes, much of the slots are in the same place, like Terry said, but the boards are not all that much alike in my opinion. Does Apple actually say these are the same form factor? I could accept (grudgingly) that they have *similar* appearances but I'm rather doubtful of anything more than that ;-) The IIci, IIcx, Q700, C650, Q800, and 7100 are all the same mobo. The Q700 and later have an AAUI connector and the 7100 has the HDI-45 video, so obviously the back panel will require a bit of modification, but they're all the exact same layout, whether YOU believe it or not. There's no need to be snotty about this -- I just don't share your opinion. I think they're similar but I don't consider them the same. If on the other hand Apple actually says these are the same motherboard, then I'll respectfully recant. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Conceit causes more conversation than wit. -- LaRouchefoucauld - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: TCP/IP Problem
You may have to enable telnet on the server. I've setup NetBSD and Debian Linux and one of them needed this. I think it's in the main rc.conf file or equivalent. NetBSD has the rc.conf file, but in either case uncommenting the appropriate entry in /etc/inetd.conf should do the trick. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The moon may be smaller than the Earth, but it's farther away. - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Speaking of Mobo Swapping..
Check the FAQ; the IIci is a common form factor for several later mobos including the 7100. I hope you mean the Q700, because the 7100 it is *not* :-) It actually is... I've got both a loaner 7100 and my IIci open, and I'm unconvinced. Yes, much of the slots are in the same place, like Terry said, but the boards are not all that much alike in my opinion. Does Apple actually say these are the same form factor? I could accept (grudgingly) that they have *similar* appearances but I'm rather doubtful of anything more than that ;-) -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you cannot convince them, confuse them. -- Harry S Truman --- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stupid email trick warning.
Today I got an email from one Steven Pinette entitles Dialog letter june. The text of this letter reads: Hi! How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice See you later. Thanks This is SirCam. Symantic's SARC has a rather nice explanation of it. A friend of mine was hit by it recently. Macs have nothing to fear. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ACTUAL CLASSIFIED AD: Parachute, used once, never opened, small stain. $100 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Download .sit file via PC
What is the earliest version of Mac OS that PC exchange will work with? I'm using PC Exchange with 7.1 (both a clean and 7.5-tainted install). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Experience varies directly with amount of equipment ruined. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stuffit Expander
I thought 5.5 required 7.1P or 7.1.1? It will work It requires 7.5, I think. Works just fine with 7.1.3 Yeah, it works fine with 7.1.x but the installer won't run on anything less than 7.5.x, IIRC. Are you sure? I've installed it on my 7.1 IIci without a problem (use it frequently, in fact). -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesus at a disco: Help! I've risen and I can't get down! - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stuffit Expander
Works just fine with 7.1.3 Yeah, it works fine with 7.1.x but the installer won't run on anything less than 7.5.x, IIRC. Are you sure? I've installed it on my 7.1 IIci without a problem (use it frequently, in fact). http://net68000.freeshell.org/stuffitexpander5.html But I didn't do anything of the kind, though. It just worked. Although I have a lot of funky extensions on that system, so it wasn't exactly a clean 7.1 -- several stolen from 7.5.5, in fact -- maybe that's why. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? -- Groucho Marx - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My ISP
Interestingmy ISP says that unless you are running Eudora 5+ or running the latest and greatest there is no support for you [...] However, since most are just PPP providers, support only means customer support for getting the app running. As far as ISPs go, they shouldn't care what the software is as long as it speaks TCP/IP. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A witty saying proves nothing. -- Voltaire - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 6214 Mac
A Commodore 64 is better than all those inferior little things. :-P Commodore 64 user since 1984 and still using a 128D, Cameron, Is the 128D the model with a separate keyboard CPU?... Looks sort-of-similar to an Amiga 1000? That's the one. They come in two forms, a European 128D that's all plastic, has the 1571 internal disk drive on a separate board from the system board, and has a carrying handle and fan, and the more common American and later European 128DCR (D Cost Reduced) that has a mostly metal case, a unified system board, and no handle or fan. Any American 128D you will see is just about guaranteed to be a DCR. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Workers of the world, stand up! You have nothing to lose but your chairs. -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: linux m68k
Ok, I've had enough and now I have to add my $.11. Why are you bothering with Linux? NetBSD is the one to go with on 68k Macs. I've put it on my IIci and Q800 and both run flawlessly. Why go with linux? NetBSD is a mature UNIX for 68k Macs. The only drawback to it is the non-support for the oddball machines, IIvx and Q950, and non-FPU Quadra/Centris/LC machines. For further reference try here: http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/ I definitely agree -- satisfied user of NetBSD on a IIci with a Daystar '030 50MHz, Quantum Empire 2.05GB, 128MB RAM, and two Farallon EtherWave NuBus NICs. I like this computer, and NetBSD drives it well. It serves the internal network's DNS and AppleTalk, soon will do POP, and runs a web and gopher gateway to boot. Linux/68k is experimental and fraught with peril, but NetBSD is mature, developed and supported. Plus eminently more secure, coming from the same lineage that developed OpenBSD (one tough box to crack), and smaller and more compact since it doesn't suffer from the bloat infesting today's Linux distros. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Never blame on malice what can be blamed on abject idiocy. - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 6214 Mac
A computer is a computer, and any computer is better than no computer, ... unless it is a Commodore, ... or a PC JR., or a CPM,... a 286 or ... well ... ah forget about it. A Commodore 64 is better than all those inferior little things. :-P Commodore 64 user since 1984 and still using a 128D, So you ARE that Cameron Kaiser! No, just 'a' Cameron Kaiser, we come in six packs. ;-) Actually, I know of at least two other unrelated Cameron Kaisers on the Net, but they haven't horned in on my C64 territory yet. :-P -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In memory of Howard Caine -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 6214 Mac
I have Paint and Pony and Freddie The Fish on my Mac 6214 at school and the kids love playing with it, while I am combing out their hair of head lice. A computer is a computer, and any computer is better than no computer, ... unless it is a Commodore, ... or a PC JR., or a CPM,... a 286 or ... well ... ah forget about it. A Commodore 64 is better than all those inferior little things. :-P Commodore 64 user since 1984 and still using a 128D, -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This signature is free of dihydrogen monoxide! Ban it now! www.dhmo.org -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: GD-ROMs (Dreamcast) and the Mac
Anyone know of a program that burns GD-ROMs (no, that's not a typo) on the Mac, like DiskJuggler does on the PC? I want to burn NetBSD/dreamcast onto a CD to play with it, but the bootable CD image is not iso9660. (For info on NetBSD/dreamcast, see http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/dreamcast/ .) Dunno about for Mac, but Nero Burning ROM for Win That's the problem -- I don't own a Windows system. Closest I come is two DOS boxes I use for RD and old DOS games. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Everything is permissible, but not everything is expedient. -- 1 Cor 6:12 -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
