Kid-proofing computers

2005-12-21 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi everyone,
I may be getting some old Macs to convert into toddler computers.  I 
would like to know how to make them as kid-proof as possible, software 
and hardware wise.  I will most likely be giving only the computer and 
keyboard/mouse, no printers or modems, etc.  I plan on putting 
educational/fun kid software on them, if I get enough parts for a 
working system or two.  Any suggestions?  Most likely System 7.1 or 
7.5.


Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
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Re: Kid-proofing computers

2005-12-21 Thread Kyle Koerner
Thanks for the suggestions.  I'll look into it - I believe I saw that 
on the System CD for a Performa - let me look.


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On Dec 21, 2005, at 6:37 PM, Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote:

At ease looks GREAT!!! ANd surely useful for a couple tastks I plan to 
do on my IIci running 7.6.


However... I couldnĀ“t find on the page any link or reference to 
download it...


Any helpful hand greatly welcomed!

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On Dec 21, 2005, at 19:01, Thomas wrote:

I've used At Ease which is a control panel that is included in some
Apple Install sets.  It's simple enough and has worked well in an
elementary school setting.  Info:
http://toastytech.com/guis/atease.html




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Mac II resister blown

2005-11-09 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi all,
Got a Mac II today - or, rather, a Mac IIfx in a II case.  Cleaned it, 
replaced PRAM batteries with working ones, and powered on once without 
drives.  PS took a few tries, but did come on.  All seemed well, so I 
turned it off and added drives (1 FD and a 5 60 meg HD.  Turned this 
on, and when the drive started to spin up, a resister, labeled L4 (near 
power connector for HD) became red, smoldered, and went *snap* as I 
quickly unplugged the power.  Is this the drive's fault?  It seems to 
be in the region of the hard drive power connector.


Another, side issue I noticed was some brown gunk coming from the 
processor region.  What is this?  There aren't any capacitors near 
there that could have leaked...


Thanks for any help.

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Re: Mac II resister (inductor?) blown

2005-11-09 Thread Kyle Koerner


On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


on 11/9/05 2:58 PM, Kyle Koerner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Turned this
on, and when the drive started to spin up, a resister, labeled L4 
(near

power connector for HD) became red, smoldered, and went *snap* as I
quickly unplugged the power.

 A 'L' designator is usually used with inductors not resistors.

Rick


Rick,
Sorry, not sure what the actual name is - it's a little square thing 
which I can't tell you more about because it is just a scorched 
block...


The Mac II does power up, just without a hard drive (i have an external 
though).  Funny thing is, my external case (AppleCD 300e) has no 
problem with the 5 drive.


Still, any advice?

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IIfx Mouse problem

2005-11-09 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi all,
In addition to the hard drive power problem with my IIfx board, another 
problem is there too.  When I turn the thing on, there is no mouse 
movement.  Period.  You can use the keyboard to navigate, but no mouse. 
 This happens with different mice/keyboards, different configurations 
(ADB port, keyboards, etc), and even different hard drives with 
different system folders.  Also, Mouse Keys do not work.  They can be 
enabled and the clicking (5 or 0) work, just like on the mouse.  Just 
no linear movement.


Any ideas?
Thanks,
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Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hey all,
Looking into purchasing a Mac II (the original).  There is no hard 
drive installed... i know it is SCSI, but is there anything specific to 
know, like physical size or termination, etc?  Never owned a II 
anything before.


Also, what do you think is a fair price?

Thanks,
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Re: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi Scott,
Thanks for your reply.  Would the bracket from an LC III work?  I have 
a spare.  I would imagine so...


I do not have an extra floppy drive, actually.  The one I will be 
getting only has one drive.  However, most of my disks are 1.4 MB, so 
an 800k drive won't be too much help ;-)


I am working on getting an Apple 8/24 something video card, along with 
a few others... It seems to fit the bill.


I can probably steal some PRAM batteries from other Macs, until I can 
make my own batteries.  I think you are referring to the process of 
using AA batteries soldered together, right?  Or, are the batteries in 
the Mac II soldered in?  It didn't look like it...


Anyone have any idea of value?

Thanks,
Kyle-

On Oct 19, 2005, at 9:18 PM, Scott Baret wrote:


You can put either a 3.5 or a 5.25 hard drive in a
Mac II. I've seen both configurations in action.
Brackets are available for either.

Also make sure you have an additional floppy on hand
in case the one you get has only one drive installed.
Although this isn't necessary it's nice for making
backups of important disks (and when disks get old
they get unreliable so make your backups). A stock
regular II can only use 800K drives though.

I'm currently working on a II myself (it will be a
server for a platoon of compact Macs I recently
acquired). Make sure your II has a good video card and
make sure you know how to solder batteries in. A II
will not start if it doesn't have two good batteries.
It uses the same small 3.6V batteries that most of the
other Macs use.

Scott

--- Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey all,
Looking into purchasing a Mac II (the original).
There is no hard
drive installed... i know it is SCSI, but is there
anything specific to
know, like physical size or termination, etc?  Never
owned a II
anything before.

Also, what do you think is a fair price?

Thanks,
Kyle-





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Re: Mac II Hard drive

2005-10-19 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi Shaun,

I have a 160 meg drive from an LC 475 that I could probably spare, at 
least long enough for the project I am using this thing for.


$40 - $50 shipped is in the range I am paying.  It seems like a cool 
lil' machine.  By the way, I have never seen one on eBay to check 
prices against.



Thanks,
Kyle-


On Oct 19, 2005, at 9:03 PM, Shaun Reynolds wrote:


Hi Kyle,

I don't know too much about termination for an internal SCSI HD, but I
can say that the II case will accept any 3.5 or a half-height 5.25
drive. You'd want a 50-pin SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 (I know the SCSI-1 will
work, not sure about SCSI-2) connector. I do believe that SCSI-2 also
has a 50-pin connector. Someone can jump in and correct me on this...

Because of the age of the machine, I cannot personally see paying more
than $50 including shipping for a Mac II. Of course, I don't know what
these machines are worth, and if they ARE worth more, then I am a
cheapskate. :)

Best,

 -Shaun


On 10/19/05, Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey all,
Looking into purchasing a Mac II (the original).  There is no hard
drive installed... i know it is SCSI, but is there anything specific 
to

know, like physical size or termination, etc?  Never owned a II
anything before.

Also, what do you think is a fair price?

Thanks,
Kyle-






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Re: forcing macos to boot (or a lesson from the school of hard knocks... take your pick)

2005-09-19 Thread Kyle Koerner


On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Samual Acorn wrote:


 and typed 'G' and pressed enter to
close the debugger...



Sam,
I learned about this a few months ago with an LC III and a similar 
situation with System 7.1...  Once you entered the debugger and pressed 
G, it started up, and you were greeted with system errors.  On mine, I 
was able to bypass those with the debug-g thing too.  A very handy 
trick, at least in my opinion.


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Top/Bottom Posting (Was: Broken LC)

2005-08-20 Thread Kyle Koerner


On Aug 20, 2005, at 12:16 PM, Samual Acorn wrote:

and this is the only list that has gotten its
panties in a wad about top replies... and considering im 'mod' on more
than a handfull of them apparently they have no problems with top
replies...


Oh, but there was a long, somewhat heated debate about it in the iMac  
list too - here is one of the links in the archive... you can dig up  
more of the topic if you like. http://www.mail-archive.com/imac-list% 
40mail.maclaunch.com/msg20629.html


I prefer bottom posting, but i also believe you should only quote the  
most recent message... not the whole thing.


Cutting the footers is preferred - not doing so generally makes you  
look like a newbie, at least in my opinion.


It's not THAT big of a deal, folks, it's just personal taste i guess.

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Re: Top/Bottom Posting (Was: Broken LC)

2005-08-20 Thread Kyle Koerner


On Aug 20, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Samual Acorn wrote:


i agree that its a personal preference... just blew me away that some
folk decided to get that upset and picky about it... as a side note; i
consider not cutting footers being lazy as apposed to being a
newbie... and i have gotten 'lazy' down to a fine art ;)  [no caps...
bad spelling... minimal punctuation...]



Heh, I think I was the one that changed it and helped to start this  
whole thing...  oh well.


Any by the way, if anyone was following the LC portion of this  
thread, the LC III now works.  It turned out to be system software  
problem, not a SCSI issue at all.  Go figure.


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Re: Broken LC

2005-08-18 Thread Kyle Koerner



On Aug 18, 2005, at 3:10 AM, Samual Acorn wrote:

(top posting fixed)



On 15/08/05, Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All
I asked about networking my old LCs together a little while earlier.
Well, now the LC III's hard drive died.  I had it in an external box
to copy some info to a Performa, and I accidently left it on for a
week straight.  Anyway, now the LC III won't boot.  I have put the
drive from my LC 520 (7.5.3) in the III, and it refuses to boot -
just the ? .  However, if I put the good drive in an external SCSI
box, and then power on the LC with no internal drive, it will work
just fine.

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Kyle-




bad internal cable? bad scsi termination?
try zapping the pram and see what it does... option-apple-p-r on power
up... (i think thats the right key-sequence)

btw, left it on as in powered on? (that shouldnt have caused any
problems) or left it on as in connected?  (that shouldnt have
either... but...)



Well, i tried the PRAM , that didn't help.  I'm not sure how you  
would terminate the internal drive... its the only drive in there.


The drive died because I put it in an external SCSI box to copy some  
files, but when I finished with the computer, I forgot to turn off  
the external box, and the drive ended up being left on for a full  
week, while the computer was shut down.


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Re: Broken LC

2005-08-18 Thread Kyle Koerner
Ah, sorry about the top-posting thing, i thought that it was  
customary to post on the bottom (we had a big debate on this in the  
iMac LEM list).  Anyway, the deal with the hard drive is as follows.   
I REMOVED the internal drive from the LC III, then I put it into an  
external SCSI box.  I connected the SCSI box to my LC 520.  (I wanted  
to copy files form one drive to the other).  I turned OFF the LC 520,  
but forgot to turn off the SCSI box that contained the LC III's  
INTERNAL hard drive.


Hopefully that is clear... I'm not sure how else to say it.

Now, that was left on ALL WEEK, causing that drive to die.  Now, the  
LC III won't boot, even with another hard drive on the internal SCSI  
cable.  With an external SCSI drive, it boots fine.


Kyle-

On Aug 18, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Samual Acorn wrote:


top posting fixed?

ok.. confused... how would leaving an external harddrive turned on
keep the internal turned on... arent the power and data cables
seperate??  if the internal was left spinning (powered) by the power
supply in the external box and the scsi bus on this comp still works i
would check the power cable...

or... is it the external that is damaged from being left on for a
week? (that -still- shouldnt have been a problem... the drive would
have just sat idle)

either you arent wording this correctly or i have completely jumped
the tracks on this one cos i am lost...

On 18/08/05, Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On Aug 18, 2005, at 3:10 AM, Samual Acorn wrote:

(top posting fixed)




On 15/08/05, Kyle Koerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi All
I asked about networking my old LCs together a little while  
earlier.
Well, now the LC III's hard drive died.  I had it in an external  
box

to copy some info to a Performa, and I accidently left it on for a
week straight.  Anyway, now the LC III won't boot.  I have put the
drive from my LC 520 (7.5.3) in the III, and it refuses to boot -
just the ? .  However, if I put the good drive in an external SCSI
box, and then power on the LC with no internal drive, it will work
just fine.

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Kyle-






bad internal cable? bad scsi termination?
try zapping the pram and see what it does... option-apple-p-r on  
power

up... (i think thats the right key-sequence)

btw, left it on as in powered on? (that shouldnt have caused any
problems) or left it on as in connected?  (that shouldnt have
either... but...)




Well, i tried the PRAM , that didn't help.  I'm not sure how you
would terminate the internal drive... its the only drive in there.

The drive died because I put it in an external SCSI box to copy some
files, but when I finished with the computer, I forgot to turn off
the external box, and the drive ended up being left on for a full
week, while the computer was shut down.

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Broken LC

2005-08-15 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi All,
I asked about networking my old LCs together a little while earlier.   
Well, now the LC III's hard drive died.  I had it in an external box  
to copy some info to a Performa, and I accidently left it on for a  
week straight.  Anyway, now the LC III won't boot.  I have put the  
drive from my LC 520 (7.5.3) in the III, and it refuses to boot -  
just the ? .  However, if I put the good drive in an external SCSI  
box, and then power on the LC with no internal drive, it will work  
just fine.


Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Kyle-

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Re: Networking LCs

2005-07-27 Thread Kyle Koerner


On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Louis Labrie wrote:


Well not sure about remotely in system 7, but if you have a keyboard
connected to it or have a spare to connect to it. When you want to
shut it down hit the power key then the enter key and that will do it.

Ethernet is the best way to go, But if you need them I have plenty of
Phonenet adapters for localtalk. $3 each or $10 for 4 + shipping



Is there any way to remotely shut down the III properly, not just
cutting the power to it?




Thanks for the advice - everyone!  I may eventually go with Ethernet 
PDS cards (but I understand you need a right angle adapter, which I 
don't have).  For some reason, hitting the power key does nothing on 
the LC III.  I tried putting its HD in my SCSI box attached to my 520.  
I then booted off of it (7.0 or .1), and using the power key produces 
nothing  You must use the special menu.  I don't quite understand that 
one...


Kyle-


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Networking LCs

2005-07-26 Thread Kyle Koerner

Hi All-
First message here, but I've been around for a few weeks.

I have two LCs - a III and a 520 (AIO).  The III runs headless, and has 
System 7.0 or 7.1 on it.  5MB RAM.  My 520 has 7.5.3 and 12 MB of RAM.


I was able to set up a simple network with the printer ports and a 
serial cable (with the III's HD in a SCSI box). The III is the server 
and the 520 is the client.  I use the III's HD for storage, mainly.  I 
have no way to shut it down properly - it is always shut down with the 
switch in the back after I'm done.  I also have a Daystar Genesis 
(although not working right now) and a Stylewriter 2400.  Is there any 
way to get these items into the network?  (when the daystar is fixed)


My questions:  Is there a better way to do this whole thing?

How should I connect the 2400?  Can I hook it up to the III and share 
the printer that way, or just directly into the 520?  Which way would 
be faster?  Note, the LC III seems to have desktop printing capability 
while the 520 doesn't.


Is there a way to access floppy disks put into the III?  What about a 
SCSI CD-ROM drive?  That is, access a floppy/CD attached to the II from 
the 520's desktop?


Is there any way to remotely shut down the III properly, not just 
cutting the power to it?


Does this make sense to anybody, or am I asking too much from these old 
machines?


Any help/advice/links would be great.
Kyle-


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