IIci VS Q700. Re: Ripping Video
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have a Q700 yourself or a IIci? I've got both. The Q700 is rather limited with RAM expansion because it only has 4 simm slots to fill. Considering the fact that it is very hard to get 8 mb or higher 30 pin simms for this model and I'm not planning to spend any money on memory, I'm stuck with 20 mb maximum (that's including the 4 mb on board. The IIci has 8 simm slots, allowing 32 mb (8x4 mb). So it's 3 NuBus slots and 8 SIMM slots VS 2 NuBus and 4 SIMM. Now why in Job's name would anyone want a Q700? All it has going for it is the 040 CPU and built in Ethernet. If you're looking to upgrade from a fully packed IIci you have to leave off half your SIMMs and one NuBus card. Not too big a hurt if one's an Ethernet card. But what if you have a video card, a video capture card and a SCSI card like a Jackhammer? That puts the Q700 right out of contention! I wish I knew what Apple was thinking when they hobbled the Q700's expandability like that. :P Now an 040 in the II/IIx/IIfx case with six NuBus slots, 16 SIMM slots, built in 24bit video with dedicated VRAM, built in Ethernet, fast SCSI II, 16bit 44Khz stereo audio in and out, THAT woulda been a real killer Mac. ;) And it probably would've cost $10K just like the IIfx did to start with. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if the inability of 68Ks to turn off the startup RAM tests is a lack-of-software thing, or a lack-of-hardware-support-for-it thing. With a PPC-upgraded 68K, you can turn off the startup RAM test with 8.5 or higher, but the 8.5 Memory control panel doesn't work with an older OS IIRC. The DayStar control panel (at least for the Turbo 601) has the feature to disable the RAM test. That works back to system 7.5, which is the minimum System for the Turbo 601. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci VS Q700. Re: Ripping Video
At 23:37 -0700 on 09/04/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Now an 040 in the II/IIx/IIfx case with six NuBus slots, 16 SIMM slots, built in 24bit video with dedicated VRAM, built in Ethernet, fast SCSI II, 16bit 44Khz stereo audio in and out, THAT woulda been a real killer Mac. ;) And it probably would've You just described the Q9x0 minus the 44KHz audio and one NuBus slot. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
At 23:47 -0700 on 09/04/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: The DayStar control panel (at least for the Turbo 601) has the feature to disable the RAM test. That works back to system 7.5, which is the minimum System for Yeah, but does it work without a card installed? ISTR the Daystar control panels don't work so well without an accelerator in place. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 23:47 -0700 on 09/04/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: The DayStar control panel (at least for the Turbo 601) has the feature to disable the RAM test. That works back to system 7.5, which is the minimum System for Yeah, but does it work without a card installed? ISTR the Daystar control panels don't work so well without an accelerator in place. Would be easy enough for someone to try. :) Drop it in the control panels folder then see if it will run. If it will, check the box to disable the RAM test. Something else to test. Use the Power Central CP for the 030 PowerCache and see if using just the PowerMath switch does anything for integer and floating point benchmarks. Supposedly that setting redirects all SANE math calls from the CPU to the FPU, using the Mac's onboard FPU if it has one and the PowerCache card doesn't. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
Yeah, but does it work without a card installed? ISTR the Daystar control panels don't work so well without an accelerator in place. Would be easy enough for someone to try. :) Drop it in the control panels folder then see if it will run. If it will, check the box to disable the RAM test. Bleah, is this only in the Turbo 601 CP? Something else to test. Use the Power Central CP for the 030 PowerCache and see if using just the PowerMath switch does anything for integer and floating point benchmarks. Supposedly that setting redirects all SANE math calls from the CPU to the FPU, using the Mac's onboard FPU if it has one and the PowerCache card doesn't. I've tried this before and ISTM that it does make a difference (though not as much as cache!) in Snooper benchmarks. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What you don't know won't help you much either. -- D. Bennett -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
Subject: Re: Ripping Video From: Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 10:08 PM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Anyone around here know how to get the contents of a video tape on a hard disk, preferably using some old Mac? I know absolutely nothing about this stuff. Buy an 840av, you won't regret it :). It has Analog video and S-VHS in an records 320x240 at 30fps, more than adequate for VCR stuff. 320x240? A bit on the small side, what? Bob F -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone around here know how to get the contents of a video tape on a hard disk, preferably using some old Mac? I know absolutely nothing about this stuff. First off you'd need a Mac with AV or Audio Video features that include AV _input_ and the ability to actually capture the video and audio, not just the ability to run it through the Mac's monitor and speakers. Given that, you're looking at capturing at best 320x420 resolution and using old codecs because any video capture hardware built into NuBus Macs either can't handle the newer ones or software capable of using them doesn't exist to run on them. Even the high-zoot NuBus video capture cards that can do 640x480 at 30fps are limited to the older codecs because of the software thing. About the best NuBus video capture system ever was the Media 100. That puppy took two slots, used a custom breakout cable and the hardware was serialized with each copy of the software keyed to the individual board sets. So unless you get the COMPLETE Media 100 NuBus setup it's completely worthless. I think Media 100 had an upgrade discount to the PCI version if you sent them the breakout cable from your NuBus Media 100 system. I wish Media 100 would release a version of the final NuBus software that isn't locked to the hardware serial and plans for building a breakout cable. That would not cut into their current market because 99.999% of video professionals would sit around waiting for an old NuBus PowerMac and old software without all the latest and greatest FX to chew on their data. It would definately be a big PR coup for the company. :) (It would also make all those sets of NuBus Media 100 boards minus cables and software suddenly worth a few dollars!) On the cheaper end there were some other NuBus video capture cards but I think they're mostly restricted to working with System 7.1 through 7.5.5. Radius made some, so did Cinepack but they dumped the hardware end to concentrate on codec development. Does the LEM videocard list have anything on NuBus video capture products? At any rate you aren't going to be using DivX or MPEG2 or MPEG4 on any NuBus Mac. And it would be very tedious going on anything pre G3 or even the sub 400Mhz G3 range, though you _can_ install a nice PCI capture card and OS 9.x.x on any PCI Mac with a 603/604 and make things work. If you have only one or a few tapes to convert, your best bet is to have some shop do the capture and either put it on DV tape or some DVD recordable that will playback in a normal DVD-ROM or DVD player. If you have a big box of tapes to do then it's worth spending the money for a decently fast Mac (or PC) with a 60+ gig drive and a DVD recorder. (I've seen them hit the $200 mark recently!!!) Or you can go the DivX/MPEG4 route and use plain old CD-R. I've seen some DVD rips to DivX on CD-R that look thisclose in quality to the original. 640x480 resolution is all you really need for playback on a TV. Some people like to use 800x600 for PAL TV but the native resolution for DVD is something like 720x480 for all the major TV systems. DVD playback on a computer doesn't care if its for NTSC, PAL, SEACAM or whatever and usually it's possible to convert the video and shunt it to a composite or S-Video or SCART (common in europe) analog output to display on a TV or record on a VCR wherever you are in the world. On the PC side, the market of freeware utils for ripping, encoding, converting, disabling Macrovision etc, etc is HUGE. There's an app called DVDx that can rip and compress a DVD faster than realtime on an Athlon XP or Pentium 4. It can also do other video files so it's not just for ripping DVD movies. I don't know what's out there for the Mac that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. There just doesn't appear to be much interest in non professional video software for Macs. For a starter, pop this search into dogpile.com +DivX +Macintosh And you'll find what's out there for use with the DivX codec. Note that DivX has nothing to do with DivX the scheme for renting encrypted DVDs that you'd pay for then get to watch as much as you wanted for 24 or 48 hours, then you'd have to pay again or upgrade the Disc to gold which allowed unlimited playing. (That is, unlimited until the DivX scam when belly up and they'll be shutting down their server soon if not already, which will turn all DivX discs into instant coasters.) So if you want to be _cheap_ AND up to date with video, get a PC box. If you want to do this with a Mac, contact someone who specializes in video capture, encoding etc with Macs. :) If you decide to go PC on this project, start with www.divx.com and get their DivX 5.0 codec. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog
Re: Ripping Video
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. Now, I've got a good reason to buy myself a Quad 840AV :-) BTW Is this something that one can do better with newer Macs or are those more aimed at digital video? Yes, and if you're recording onto your computer, it's digital video. Converted from analog of course, but anyone whose into computers and video does plenty of conversion unless they're only working with new stuff shot with a digital video recorder instead of someone's old box of tapes from the back of the hall closet. ;) Whether or not an 840AV will be suitable for what you want to do depends on what you want to do. :) Since they aren't too expensive it won't hurt to get one and try it out. If it doesn't meet your needs then go for a newer Mac (or even a PC) then slap in a USB 2.0 or firewire PCI card and get one of this outfit's products or something similar. http://www.dazzle.com/main.html = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on an OS 9.1/OS X machine (IIRC you have a 9.2 G3 don't you?) and you have the lot sorted :). Heck, if he has that kind of rig, just get one of those USB video capture things plus a USB 2.0 card (even if it has USB built in) or a Firewire capture doohickey and card to match. Depending on where you buy, the whole kit and kaboodle for Mac or PC can be had for around $100 these days and some include some pretty hefty video software too. It's cheap and you'll love the speed and other goodies that're just not possible on a Vintage Mac. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 12:15 AM, the pickle wrote: At 01:09 +0200 on 09/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence) selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site. Will also work, albeit not *quite* as well. Not nearly as well. Call me biased but the 840av is vastly superior :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 08:31 AM, rlf9 wrote: 320x240? A bit on the small side, what? You can do 640x480 as well. The frame rate starts to drop off though. I think it's 4-6fps for that size. 320x240 is fine, you can't really get any more quality out of a VCR video if you make it any larger. The only thing that would make it a problem was if you wanted to watch the video on a big display :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 10:44 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on an OS 9.1/OS X machine (IIRC you have a 9.2 G3 don't you?) and you have the lot sorted :). Heck, if he has that kind of rig, just get one of those USB video capture things plus a USB 2.0 card (even if it has USB built in) or a Firewire capture doohickey and card to match. Depending on where you buy, the whole kit and kaboodle for Mac or PC can be had for around $100 these days and some include some pretty hefty video software too. It's cheap and you'll love the speed and other goodies that're just not possible on a Vintage Mac. You have any *idea* how much a good quality A-D breakout box for FireWire/USB 2.0 *costs*? The last one I saw was nearly $250. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence) selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site. Coincidence indeed ! But I do know a Q700 for sale here in Amsterdam. Heavily finned '040 and an Ethernet card in there. And the usual ugly Q700 case. Off list whereabouts.. Back to video ripping on vintage macs: Is there a Nubus video capture card in existance? Anything Marten could try on his IIfx od IIci? -mart -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence) selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site. Coincidence indeed ! But I do know a Q700 for sale here in Amsterdam. Heavily finned '040 and an Ethernet card in there. And the usual ugly Q700 case. Off list whereabouts.. Huh? That case looks a lot like the IIci. I don't think it is ugly. I have one myself, though I don't use it because of the limited memory upgrade potential. What do you mean with 'finned' btw? Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence) selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site. Coincidence indeed ! But I do know a Q700 for sale here in Amsterdam. Heavily finned '040 and an Ethernet card in there. And the usual ugly Q700 case. Off list whereabouts.. Huh? That case looks a lot like the IIci. I don't think it is ugly. The IIci case is a beauty (albeit somewhat boxy). Lining, striping, details; all is well. The Q700 case has the same dimensions, but the horizontal striping on the front is replaced by an ugly row of smaller ones. It was redesigned to stand like a mini-tower. In my eyes, they only got halfway. I have one myself, though I don't use it because of the limited memory upgrade potential. You have a Q700 yourself or a IIci? What do you mean with 'finned' btw? The processor having folded metal cooling fins attached to it. -mart -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 05:24 PM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Right now I don't use either one of them. I do my scsi stuff on a LC475, which is quite fast and has space for a 32 mb 72 pin simm. I wanna get myself a big quadra with 72 pin simms, so I can fill 'r up real good (i've got some spare 72-pin simms). You can certainly do that on an 840AV :). You can stack in 4 32MB 72-pin SIMMs and get 128MB! Trouble is the RAM tes takes longer than the OS to load (yes, even with OS 8.1 pickle ;) ). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 06:15 PM, mart wrote: The IIci case is a beauty (albeit somewhat boxy). Lining, striping, details; all is well. The Q700 case has the same dimensions, but the horizontal striping on the front is replaced by an ugly row of smaller ones. It was redesigned to stand like a mini-tower. In my eyes, they only got halfway. I think the IIci/Q700 has the inverse problem to the Quadra 8xx and 8x00 Macs. Not so good (although, like the SE/30 is has it's charms ;) ) outside, roomy and well made inside. Anyone who has use a mighty 8 will know it's not a nice case to work in but it looks coool :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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At 19:11 +0100 on 09/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: SIMMs and get 128MB! Trouble is the RAM tes takes longer than the OS to load (yes, even with OS 8.1 pickle ;) ). I wonder if the inability of 68Ks to turn off the startup RAM tests is a lack-of-software thing, or a lack-of-hardware-support-for-it thing. With a PPC-upgraded 68K, you can turn off the startup RAM test with 8.5 or higher, but the 8.5 Memory control panel doesn't work with an older OS IIRC. Perhaps someone could write an extension to disable the tests? Waiting five minutes for an SE/30 to boot with 128MB RAM isn't so fun. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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[...] I wanna get myself a big quadra with 72 pin simms, so I can fill 'r up real good (i've got some spare 72-pin simms). So that's going to be an AV Quadra, I guess. Happy hunting! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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a 68040 does generate heat at 25Mhz. It is just an added benefit to keeping it cool. remember heat is the enemy. Jim F Marten van de Kraats wrote: have one myself, though I don't use it because of the limited memory upgrade potential. What do you mean with 'finned' btw? A heatsink. Why would one need a heatsink for a 25 mhz 66040 in a Mac that already has a cooling fan? Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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The heatsink is to transfer the heat from the CPU to the air, and the fan moves the air away and replaces it with cooler air. The heat transfer is limited by the 'narrowest' part of the system. If the heat can't get out of the chip it would soon look like a dim light bulb. If the air can't get out of the case it will soon be like a small oven, and things will fail. Heat is the enemy. Some of the Windoze machines have fans mounted on the chip heatsink itself, as well as a fan to cool the box! Some even have Peltier devices mounted on the chip, a very inefficient method, but it works. Keep those fuzz bunnies clear of the fan opening ;-) Is it warm in here or is it just me? Kapnkid a 68040 does generate heat at 25Mhz. It is just an added benefit to keeping it cool. remember heat is the enemy. A heatsink. Why would one need a heatsink for a 25 mhz 66040 in a Mac that already has a cooling fan? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Thanks. Funny thing is that I haven't got any big quadra's yet, only a simple 700 because it looked most like the IIci which I find beautiful. I always aimed for II series and compacts (plusses mostly, by far my favourite). On woensdag, april 10, 2002, at 12:06 , mart wrote: [...] I wanna get myself a big quadra with 72 pin simms, so I can fill 'r up real good (i've got some spare 72-pin simms). So that's going to be an AV Quadra, I guess. -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 10:35 PM, James E Freeland wrote: a 68040 does generate heat at 25Mhz. It is just an added benefit to keeping it cool. remember heat is the enemy. My 840av has a 40MHz 040 in it. It has a short stumpy heat-sink (it needs to be to fit under the drive bay moulding) and it whacks out a fair bit of heat. Having said that I got a nasty burn from the edge of my LC040 in my 475 when I out it in but realised (as the machine sounded unusually quiet) I forgot to re-attach the fan. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On woensdag, april 10, 2002, at 12:05 , kapnkid wrote: Some of the Windoze machines have fans mounted on the chip heatsink itself, as well as a fan to cool the box! Some even have Peltier devices mounted on the chip, a very inefficient method, but it works. Keep those fuzz bunnies clear of the fan opening ;-) Is it warm in here or is it just me? That is why I love my iMac DV SE so much. I love that machine not having a fan. I really hate fans. The only Mac in my room with a fan is a LC 475. I only turn it on for burning cd's. a 68040 does generate heat at 25Mhz. I know it does. A 25 Mhz 68030 already runs quite hot. -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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I think the IIci/Q700 has the inverse problem to the Quadra 8xx and 8x00 Macs. Not so good (although, like the SE/30 is has it's charms ;) ) outside, roomy and well made inside. Anyone who has use a mighty 8 will know it's not a nice case to work in but it looks coool :). The classic Mac case I most despise above all else is one they used for the Performa 630 and others like it. The slideout motherboard is cool but I could never get it aligned properly without a lot of fighting, and the whole metal shell idea is aggravating. -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- E pluribus Unix -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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At 23:21 +0100 on 09/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: fair bit of heat. Having said that I got a nasty burn from the edge of my LC040 in my 475 when I out it in but realised (as the machine sounded unusually quiet) I forgot to re-attach the fan. They're not heatsinked, mostly because the LC040 never ran hot enough to need it under normal conditions. Convection alone - especially in that case, which is reasonably flat - clearly wasn't enough to keep the CPU well-cooled. :) the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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At 17:02 -0700 on 09/04/02, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I think the IIci/Q700 has the inverse problem to the Quadra 8xx and 8x00 Macs. Not so good (although, like the SE/30 is has it's charms ;) ) outside, roomy and well made inside. Anyone who has use a mighty 8 will know it's not a nice case to work in but it looks coool :). The classic Mac case I most despise above all else is one they used for the Performa 630 and others like it. The slideout motherboard is cool but I could never get it aligned properly without a lot of fighting, and the whole metal shell idea is aggravating. I've never had problems getting the mobo in or out, but I agree that the case is FAR too heavy for what it is. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 08:31 AM, rlf9 wrote: 320x240? A bit on the small side, what? You can do 640x480 as well. The frame rate starts to drop off though. I think it's 4-6fps for that size. 320x240 is fine, you can't really get any more quality out of a VCR video if you make it any larger. The only thing that would make it a problem was if you wanted to watch the video on a big display :). DVD is 720x480. Super Video CD is 640x480. 320x240 is almost, but not quite as high a resolution as standard Video CD. See www.coolvcd.com for legal VCD and SVCD imports of movies. :) Mostly available in english. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have any *idea* how much a good quality A-D breakout box for FireWire/USB 2.0 *costs*? The last one I saw was nearly $250. Checked macwarehouse.com ? TigerDirect.com has some too but for some reason only their printed catalog tells which works for Win and Mac. I think Dazzle has one with a firewire passthrough plus all the analog video hookups for doing DA/AD conversions and it ain't near $250. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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on 4/8/02 4:08 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone around here know how to get the contents of a video tape on a hard disk, preferably using some old Mac? I know absolutely nothing about this stuff. Marten you need a video capture and edit set up. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On maandag, april 8, 2002, at 11:14 , R.A. Cantrell wrote: on 4/8/02 4:08 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone around here know how to get the contents of a video tape on a hard disk, preferably using some old Mac? I know absolutely nothing about this stuff. Marten you need a video capture and edit set up. ??? -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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At 23:08 +0200 on 08/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Anyone around here know how to get the contents of a video tape on a hard disk, preferably using some old Mac? I know absolutely nothing about this stuff. Something like a Quad 840AV plus a fat hard disk would be my first choice. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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At 23:39 +0200 on 08/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: I suppose that, when I get my hands on a Quad 840AV, the process is simple and I won't need any additional hardware, except a video recorder? Reasonably so, yes. James Wang's excellent AV-FAQ (linked on LEM, I think on the Q840 profile page) will probably help you out if you get stuck at all. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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on 4/8/02 5:25 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW Is this something that one can do better with newer Macs or are those more aimed at digital video? I'm just guessing that a 7600 with adequate ram and drive speed/space would be better than the 840. he connectivity window is a thing to consider. If you have a VCR with composite and S video, then you will want a machine with the same. Newer connectors would not be a plus. (USB Firewire.) -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 10:08 PM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Anyone around here know how to get the contents of a video tape on a hard disk, preferably using some old Mac? I know absolutely nothing about this stuff. Buy an 840av, you won't regret it :). It has Analog video and S-VHS in an records 320x240 at 30fps, more than adequate for VCR stuff. Add the that a NuBus Jackhammer card and a 7200 rpm UltraWide SCSI drive and you have a brilliant AV platform. Run 7.6.1 or 8.1 to get the best, Apple Video player will do basic recording to QT then throw those into iMovie on an OS 9.1/OS X machine (IIRC you have a 9.2 G3 don't you?) and you have the lot sorted :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
On dinsdag, april 9, 2002, at 12:30 , R.A. Cantrell wrote: on 4/8/02 5:25 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW Is this something that one can do better with newer Macs or are those more aimed at digital video? I'm just guessing that a 7600 with adequate ram and drive speed/space would be better than the 840. he connectivity window is a thing to consider. If you have a VCR with composite and S video, then you will want a machine with the same. Newer connectors would not be a plus. (USB Firewire.) -- Thanks. A 7600 is a bit expensive, considering I'm not planning to rip video's on a daily basis. I understand that I can better forget about using one of my iMacs, even though Apple talks a lot about video manipulation these days. Another good reason to keep those old Macs running! Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence) selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
on 4/8/02 6:09 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence) selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site. Marten There's a guy on the Quadlist named Coz who is an expert on the 660av. Give him a shout. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
At 01:09 +0200 on 09/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence) selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site. Will also work, albeit not *quite* as well. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 11:25 PM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Thanks. Now, I've got a good reason to buy myself a Quad 840AV :-) You don't need a good reason - I didn't have one LOL :). BTW Is this something that one can do better with newer Macs or are those more aimed at digital video? The newer PCI PowerMacs such as the 7500, 7600, 8100av and 8500 (may be others too) as well as the AV Beige G3 Towers all have better sampling rates as they are PPC powered but non have the clever circuitry that the 840av has, it really is a testament to what hardware can be made to do. Read thu the 840av bits of James Wang's FAQ as well as the articles on LEM and you'll realise what I mean. The 840av has a dedicated AV sub-system that lifts all load off of the 68040 CPU (which really doesn't cope with that sort of stuff too well) and switches it over to a 66.7MHz ATT Digital Signal Processor and other circuitry. Dashed clever machine, I'm proud to own one myself, as I am to own not one but two SE/30s. Doing analog video via FireWire is excruciatingly expensive, you need a $250 breakout box to do it and it's cheaper to buy an 840av, mine was only £74 after extra RAM :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
on 4/8/02 6:16 PM, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was. Coz disappeared from LEM about a year ago. the pickle I'll bet if you shine the Coz light up into the sky, our hero will answer the call. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ripping Video
I have to agreeYears ago I had a nice 840av and loved the connectivity and ease of use right out of the box. Neatest thing was running the Mac's video signal right to a television set. I am contemplating setting my Mom up with a 6100/av model to replace her ailing and aging WebTV box. Scott -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
