Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
At 19:08 -0400 on 17/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: list, why are you the only one to complain, hmm? I agree, I shouldn't post raising hand about things I do not know about, but most of my posts have been to the effect of what I knew to be CORRECT or most likely correct, as you said. I do know the difference between a PDS and NuBUS slot. However, you honestly expect me to know EVERY machine that has a NuBUS slot and which don't, and Yes. I honestly expect that. I honestly expect that from anyone who purports to be an expert, or comes across with that attitude. You don't get to be an expert by answering a lot of questions. You get to be an expert by answering a lot of them *correctly* and keeping your mouth shut when you don't know, unless you're about 90% certain. When you don't know, you notice what other people have to say and assimilate it as your own knowledge. Oh, and doing some reading on the side doesn't hurt either. You don't really think I knew all this when I joined the list two years ago, do you? am good at, and Macs are just one of them. I know quite a bit, but I do not profess to be an expert by any means. You seem to think I do, though. I may No, but you come across as trying to be one. While you might not claim to be one, your attitude says otherwise. This post proves it. behaved badly. The issue before was that William Ahearn was becoming a conspiracy freak and accusing a contest I created for fun to be a thinly desguised promo for another list even though I specifically noted it was No, the issue before was that you and Nick were posting every three seconds about either 1) nothing or 2) questions that had been answered multiple times, most of which would have been answered if you had both read the FAQ. I will, albeit begrudgingly after this little tantrum, admit that you're far better than you were last time. You have a long way to go, but you've come a long way too. frick and frack, all because fanatics on the list like you didn't want someone besides Pickle to post, or our netiquette wasn't perfect. Well, get That's b.s. and you know it, Deven. And if you're gonna throw out insults on the list, at least spell my name right. There's no capital at the beginning. was kicked off the list, people started fingering him and posting his email People? No, that was Will. All Will. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
Hi, all, This may seem like a silly question, but I've never been afraid to ask. I have a IIci that I believe has a floppy drive that is dying. It hadn't been started up for over 2 years. Every disk that I put in it prompts the message This disk is unreadable by this Macintosh. Do you want to initialize the disk? For the heck of it, I said yes once, but Initialization failed resulting in the disk being ejected. With my SE, the hard drive only boots after the machine is good and warm and I restart a few times. (I know, but it's all backed up and I mostly use it to copy stuff off of 800k floppies.) Here's the question: Might this same kind of approach work for the floppy (re-inserting and ejecting floppies), or will cleaning it with one of those cleaner kits work, or is it time for a trip to RE-PC for a used unit, or is there something else I haven't thought of? I was planning on installing the drivers for the Radius monitor, the modem, the Syquest drive, and my cd player, and clearing some space here, but now nothing will work for installation or emergency start-up. I don't want to cannibalize the SE for the floppy because I was planning on passing the IIci onto someone else, and keeping the SE. It's just too darn cute to give up. TIA. Jane -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
I have a IIci that I believe has a floppy drive that is dying. It hadn't been started up for over 2 years. Every disk that I put in it prompts the message This disk is unreadable by this Macintosh. Do you want to initialize the disk? For the heck of it, I said yes once, but Initialization failed resulting in the disk being ejected. Have you tried to put a vacuum cleaner on the floppy drive? That can do miracles. BTW when cleaning fails you will be able to find a replacement floppy drive very cheap. No need to canabilize your SE. I don't want to cannibalize the SE for the floppy because I was planning on passing the IIci onto someone else, and keeping the SE. It's just too darn cute to give up. And you might end up with a IIci that can only read 800k floppies. BTW if you know how to open that compact, you might wanna replace the hard disk. Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
At 21:33 -0400 on 16/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Extremely hard to overclock, perhaps. I did not look into information about overclocking it, but you'll note it was someone ELSE'S suggestion to overclock it, I just concurred. Difficulty aside, it's possible, if he wants to do it, it's worth a shot. Also, an accelerator board can cost about the same as a motherboard swap if not less. I've shopped around for all kinds of Mac upgrades so I would know. I see you assume I don't, though. You obviously have no idea what the relative pricing of 575 motherboards versus most upgrade cards for the LC-class machines is. Additionally, I never said a IIci cache card, I said an accelerator board that fits in the LC. I know the IIci cache won't work. I mean, sheesh, it says IICI right there, not LC 520. Uhm...you said Turbo 040...that's a IIci cache card. For your information, I have grown a lot more knowledgeable about Macintosh hardware since I last spoke with you, and I do not approve of you referring to me in my old screen name as a sign of ignorance. I would prefer you call I'll keep referring to you as BenjiOak until you stop displaying the ignorance and attitude that last got you booted from this list. Back to the topic. Accelerator Cards ARE a worthwhile venture. I've installed a Turbo 040 in my IIci, and the speed boost is incredible. Coupled with a Yeah, but you can get a Q650 mobo for less... The IIci cache cards are among the ONLY accelerators that are sort of worthwhile, because they're the only ones that aren't ridiculously overpriced. You can usually get them for about $20-30. Unfortunately, they only work in the II-series Macs, which means they're useless for any LC-class Mac as the 520 is. they run LINUX and mac emulators). A motherboard upgrade to a LC68040 is not going to provide very good performance, and, as someone else suggested, You haven't actually ever USED a 575, have you? It kicks a 520 to the curb and then eats it for breakfast. need a PDS one, which is another obstacle in purchasing one. And finding a 68040 chip at a good speed will be hard enough, and then there's the cost of No it won't. $15 max. And even the LC040 kills an 030 WITH an FPU on math tasks. Don't believe me? Get Speedometer and see for yourself. Remember that opinions besides your own are still valid. Note that I speak in We're not talking about opinions here. We're talking about facts. Yours are wrong. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
At 23:31 -0700 on 16/09/01, Jane Thompson wrote: I have a IIci that I believe has a floppy drive that is dying. It hadn't been started up for over 2 years. Every disk that I put in it prompts the message This disk is unreadable by this Macintosh. Do you want to initialize the disk? For the heck of it, I said yes once, but Initialization failed resulting in the disk being ejected. You might have a dirty drive. Try cleaning it up a bit. Directions are in the FAQ. If that doesn't do it, the heads could be misaligned, but it's easier to just replace the drive than re-align the heads. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
I've a friend with an LC 520. It's too slow for her, and I want to slide a board into it to make it go-faster. Other than a daughtercard, what motherboard fits right in with no hacks and speeds it up? JEff eBay usually has several 575 motherboards listed as Color Classic upgrades. Should slide right in and replace the 520 board. Some of the boards on eBay come with the max ram (36mb). If you are running System 7.1, you might need different enablers (see the FAQ for details on that). I've done a couple of these, and it takes me longer to find my 7.1 disks than to replace the boards. In my humble opnion, this would be the the fastest, easiest, and cheapest way to go. Good Luck, Steve -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IIci cache cards are among the ONLY accelerators that are sort of worthwhile, because they're the only ones that aren't ridiculously overpriced. You can usually get them for about $20-30. Unfortunately, they only work in the II-series Macs, which means they're useless for any LC-class Mac as the 520 is. We're not talking about opinions here. We're talking about facts. Speaking of FACTS. The manual I have for the 030 PowerCache shows an adaptor for the LC pizzabox Macs. So your fact that they only work in the II series is wrong. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
At 08:51 -0700 on 17/09/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Speaking of FACTS. The manual I have for the 030 PowerCache shows an adaptor for the LC pizzabox Macs. So your fact that they only work in the II series is wrong. :P smirk When someone can produce evidence that these were made, instead of just conceptualised in a manual, I'll believe it :) BTW, if there is such an adapter, it should work fine for the Turbo 040 and Turbo 601 too, though I can't for the life of me imagine why someone would put a T601 into an LC... p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
Ok, so I've made some mistakes. However, I'd prefer you would at least refer to me by my real name. I deserve that much respect. I know you to an intelligent person so I hope you can understand that. I respect you and I hope you can do the same. I only want to help people out. Like I said, it's been posted that I shouldn't speak because I don't know as much as you! If that's the case, why isn't this the Ask Pickle list? This is a COMMUNITY. People can make mistakes without being treated like the antichrist. -- Deven Gallo -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
See? Even you gods make MISTAKES sometimes. Jeez. -- Deven Gallo --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IIci cache cards are among the ONLY accelerators that are sort of worthwhile, because they're the only ones that aren't ridiculously overpriced. You can usually get them for about $20-30. Unfortunately, they only work in the II-series Macs, which means they're useless for any LC-class Mac as the 520 is. We're not talking about opinions here. We're talking about facts. Speaking of FACTS. The manual I have for the 030 PowerCache shows an adaptor for the LC pizzabox Macs. So your fact that they only work in the II series is wrong. :P -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
PowerCache in an LC. Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That isn't what I was told by the guys at MacVizion, who know quite a bit about 68k Mac upgrades .. they said you need a different adapter board from Daystar to use the Turbo 601. -- Deven Gallo To allay the suspicions of the Sceptical Pickle, has anyone seen a real, live DayStar 030 PowerCache adaptor for the LC series? (And/or one for the Turbo 040 or Turbo 601.) According to Sceptical Pickle, pictures in the installation manuals don't count. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
At 13:16 -0400 on 17/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That isn't what I was told by the guys at MacVizion, who know quite a bit about 68k Mac upgrades .. they said you need a different adapter board from Daystar to use the Turbo 601. Well, they're wrong. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
Ok, so I've made some mistakes. However, I'd prefer you would at least refer to me by my real name. I deserve that much respect. I know you to an intelligent person so I hope you can understand that. I respect you and I hope you can do the same. I only want to help people out. Like I said, it's been posted that I shouldn't speak because I don't know as much as you! If that's the case, why isn't this the Ask Pickle list? This is a COMMUNITY. People can make mistakes without being treated like the antichrist. If everybody on this list would be posting answers about subjects they don't know anything about it would become pretty messy around here. Most (mentally) grown ups know that and don't come forward unless they know the answer to something. There is always a chance that it is the wrong answer, but they know mostly enough about the subject to be somewhere close to the truth. If people like yourself that don't know the difference between a LC PDS and a Nubus slot, and don't know which processors the various machines have (yeah, I remember last weeks mails), continue bombarding the list with bullshit then that is irritating for the people who know better and confusing for the people that are waiting for the right answer. I don't know why you insist on getting respect. You must be a very insecure little boy. Respect is something you must earn, it is not something that is handed out for free. The only things free in this world are sun, rain and air. I admit earning respect will be a bit tougher for you than for most other people on this list, because you have behaved very bad in the past and people remember stuff like that. Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
You obviously deserve no respect of mine, calling me an insecure little boy and with your constant insults. If it's such a hassle to the rest of the list, why are you the only one to complain, hmm? I agree, I shouldn't post about things I do not know about, but most of my posts have been to the effect of what I knew to be CORRECT or most likely correct, as you said. I do know the difference between a PDS and NuBUS slot. However, you honestly expect me to know EVERY machine that has a NuBUS slot and which don't, and I'm stupid for NOT knowing it? Like I said, I have a vast array of things I am good at, and Macs are just one of them. I know quite a bit, but I do not profess to be an expert by any means. You seem to think I do, though. I may have made some postings you didn't approve of before, but that doesn't mean I behaved badly. The issue before was that William Ahearn was becoming a conspiracy freak and accusing a contest I created for fun to be a thinly desguised promo for another list even though I specifically noted it was ONLY FOR THE VINTAGE MACS LIST. This led to Nick and I being banned and named frick and frack, all because fanatics on the list like you didn't want someone besides Pickle to post, or our netiquette wasn't perfect. Well, get used to it, there's a world outside your little sacred list and not everyone agrees with you. Funny how I'm being called immature, while as soon as Nick was kicked off the list, people started fingering him and posting his email address and information, and there were comments that people were trying to find his home address and were going to post it to the list for anyone to abuse him. Next was the remark about rigging up a IIci to ping his system incessantly. Over what? misquoting an email? What the hell? If this is MATURITY, I'll be happy to stay an insecure little child, thanks. I've obviously learned much more about being a sensible and friendly person in my 17 years on this planet than you have, seeing as your first remarks to me were hostile form the start. I respect Pickle and the others, but I do not at all agree with your assertment that no one should try to help others to the best of their abilities EXCEPT PICKLE. I reiterate. Why isn't this called the Ask Pickle or Get Abused list? /RANT. Thanks for listening. -- Deven Gallo In a message dated 9/17/01 4:01:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If everybody on this list would be posting answers about subjects they don't know anything about it would become pretty messy around here. Most (mentally) grown ups know that and don't come forward unless they know the answer to something. There is always a chance that it is the wrong answer, but they know mostly enough about the subject to be somewhere close to the truth. If people like yourself that don't know the difference between a LC PDS and a Nubus slot, and don't know which processors the various machines have (yeah, I remember last weeks mails), continue bombarding the list with bullshit then that is irritating for the people who know better and confusing for the people that are waiting for the right answer. I don't know why you insist on getting respect. You must be a very insecure little boy. Respect is something you must earn, it is not something that is handed out for free. The only things free in this world are sun, rain and air. I admit earning respect will be a bit tougher for you than for most other people on this list, because you have behaved very bad in the past and people remember stuff like that. Marten -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
Cool down, take a shower or something, I only tried to tell you a bit about how this mailing list normally works. Nobody here is abusing anybody and this isn't the 'ask the pickle' list either. And now I'm going to stop writing about this, because I said what I needed to say and I don't wanna waste anymore bandwith on the subject. Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PowerCache in an LC. Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
To allay the suspicions of the Sceptical Pickle, has anyone seen a real, live DayStar 030 PowerCache adaptor for the LC series? (And/or one for the Turbo 040 or Turbo 601.) According to Sceptical Pickle, pictures in the installation manuals don't count. :P I've never seen one. But, one thing that may help, though it wouldn't be decisive proof... Is the picture in the manual an actual photo, or, a drawing? Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
BTW, I just saw the PowerPC Upgrade motherboards on MicroMac.com, with 75mhz or 90mhz PPC processors. Just a note: Don't buy these; they want $500 for them. What crap! You can get 4 powermacs for that price.. -- Deven Gallo -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
Sounds good, but for the cost of the 550 mobo and a 68040 chip at 33mhz or higher, you could buy two accelerators. Those are really a better buy unless you're dead set on stability .. or you need a higher RAM ceiling. I'm very happy with the performance on my IIci with the Daystar Turbo 040-40mhz card. -- Deven PDS Gallo In a message dated 9/16/01 1:39:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LC or Performa 550 bumps it to 33Mhz and has a socket for a 68882 FPU chip. So does the 520. You could also drop in a network card with an FPU on it. The LC575 will just slide in too, that has an LC040 which can be swapped out for a full 040 that has the FPU. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good, but for the cost of the 550 mobo and a 68040 chip at 33mhz or higher, you could buy two accelerators. Those are really a better buy unless you're dead set on stability .. or you need a higher RAM ceiling. I'm very happy with the performance on my IIci with the Daystar Turbo 040-40mhz card. -- Deven PDS Gallo The 575 board with 601 upgrade (AKA the Mystic upgrade when used in a Color Classic or Color Classic II) will still be plenty expensive. The LC520 can be overclocked to 33Mhz then a DayStar LC adaptor can be used to plug in a 50Mhz 030 PowerCache or a Turbo 040. I'm a bit iffy on knowing what 601 upgrades work in the 030 based LC series. Would the Turbo 601 work with the adaptor for the 030 PowerCache and Turbo 040? Is there one that plugs directly into the LC PDS and lays down against the logicboard like the LC network cards? = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
At 18:03 -0400 on 16/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good, but for the cost of the 550 mobo and a 68040 chip at 33mhz or higher, you could buy two accelerators. Those are really a better buy unless No you can't. A 575 board will be about $10-30 depending on source. Any accelerator that works with the 520 will be $30 and up. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
At 20:08 -0400 on 16/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, overclocking and adding an upgrade board is a good way to go. I'd say overclock it to the max it can go and be stable, upgrade the RAM to 32mb or more, add a big hard disk, a CDROM, and install a Turbo 040-33 or -40. As for the 601 card, it's NOT worth it. They're extremely hard to get, require a special adapter to the best of my knowledge, and that adapter has NO NUBUS SLOTS so if the 520 doesn't have a NuBUS slot to use, you're pretty much screwed. So, OC + Turbo 040 + RAM 32mb is the best bet. You are talking out of your nether regions yet again, BenjiOak. First off, the 520 is a difficult machine to overclock. If you had bothered to read Marc's overclocking site you'd know this. Second, there are no adapters for IIci cache cards to go in anything but a II series, unless JAG has seen something in his years at Goodwill that no one else has ever heard of. Third, there are no NuBus slots in any Mac all-in-one. Fourth, adding an upgrade board is almost NEVER a worthwhile expenditure. As I've said about a hundred times in the past week and a half, the upgrade cards for the various LC-slot Macs are universally more expensive than a motherboard swap would be. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
I was referring to the cost of MicroMac's Logic Board Tradeup service .. world's worst service I've heard of. LC 520 replacement: $500-$600 for a PowerMac board, and a $100 deposit they only refund once they get your old mobo. What crap. However, it'll still be more trouble to get a 68040 chip in the place of the LC68040 chip .. plus that will all cost more to ship as the company will take it as an excuse to charge extra for 2 items .. -- Deven Gallo In a message dated 9/16/01 7:42:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No you can't. A 575 board will be about $10-30 depending on source. Any accelerator that works with the 520 will be $30 and up. p -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second, there are no adapters for IIci cache cards to go in anything but a II series, unless JAG has seen something in his years at Goodwill that no one else has ever heard of. My 030 PowerCache manual shows an adaptor for the LC pizza boxes. :) I have no idea if it works with the Turbo 040 or 601. Probably not enough room. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
