Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Arianna]

That's great in theory, but all the apps I've tried have a nasty habit of 
breaking lines in the middle of words, which is really irritating.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:

> You can always convert those brf files to text and read them on your IOS 
> device. Depending on what you are reading, if you are sleepy, you're not 
> going to recall what you just read, so whether having to press a physical 
> button or tap/swipe, you are not using time and your cognitive attention 
> efficiently.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Arianna" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> 
> Not to mention that, as far as I know, no app on the iPhone can make any 
> sense of brf files. I have a lot of those in my collection, and the 
> BookSense is the only thing that I know can play them. Well, the only thing 
> that I have, at any rate. Plus, having physical buttons is rather nice. When 
> I want to go back five seconds in a book, and I'm kind of sleepy, the last 
> thing I want to do is fiddle around with a touchscreen. That being said, I 
> will still get the app; but I'll keep my BookSense around, too.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like having 
>> a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the battery 
>> consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my Booksense, and by 
>> pressing just one button, start reading a book right where I left off. No 
>> need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher and bring up my BARD 
>> Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that it's a physical button, 
>> and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting a physical button while 
>> the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I know it's not that hard 
>> to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading again, but it is convenient to 
>> have a device dedicated to my book reading and being only one button away 
>> from reading.
>> 
>> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around. I 
>> can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a lanyard, 
>> so I can just hang it from my neck.
>> 
>> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the BARD 
>> Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my iPhone 
>> and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the BARD Mobile 
>> app.
>> 
>> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
>>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
>>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode 
>>> reader). all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. 
>>> Its been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you 
>>> want reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the 
>>> extra devices on hand.
>>> 
>>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
>>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just 
>>> a phone.
>>> 
>>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
 BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, 
 and
 Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
 why
 one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some 
 may
 still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
 upgrading
 to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf
 Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
 
 I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
 listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
 on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
 my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Cristóbal]

I second the Juice Pack. I got a great deal on a refurbished one a few
months ago for $15.00 and it's worked quite fine. I hafen't had to worry
about being out and about and getting stuck with a dead or close to dead
phone any more. That and dropping and scratching the phone is less of a
concern. I recently had to swap out myoriginal 4S with Sprint for a
reconditioned one since the volume button on it was broken. The replacement
phone I got went straight into the Juice Pack. So when and if I decide to
unload this phone I can get a bit more for it as it's got no scratches or
dings and will come with the battery case. 
I plan on making heavy use of the Bard app when it finally comes out. Having
the extra juice throughout the day will come in quite handy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

Yes. I have one of these, the mophie juice pack case is awesome, as far as
I'm concerned it's the best iphone case you can get.
On Sep 13, 2013, at 6:53 PM, "Rick Alfaro"  wrote:

> Definitely, that would be my first accessory, a case with built-in
battery.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is 
> no longer an issue.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "eric oyen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> 
> there are advantages to using a separate device.
> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks 
> down battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other 
> apps that have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and
barcode reader).
> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its 
> been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you 
> want reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have 
> the extra devices on hand.
> 
> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than 
> just a phone.
> 
> Just something to keep in mind.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded 
>> from BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook 
>> app, and Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard 
>> to imagine why one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense 
>> but I'm sure some may still prefer using a separate device. This is 
>> my plan so I will be upgrading to the 64gb version of the 5s so I 
>> have no issues with space.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let 
>> you listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>> ---
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
>> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  
>> format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  
>> Thanks for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> 
>>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news 
>>> because I know that there are a lot of blind people who have been 
>>> waiting a very log
>> 
>>> time for it.
>>> 
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>> 
 The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
 
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RE: Downcast question Is continuous play of podcasts possible

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Tara,

 

In Downcast you can turn Continuous Playback on when an episode is playing
or you can go to the "More" tab at the bottom right, then tap on Settings
and a little way down right after "Stream on WiFi only" is "Continuous
Play". It is off by default, turn it on in the Settings and it will always
continue to play episodes until you stop it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TaraPrakash
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downcast question Is continuous play of podcasts possible

 

Dear all  i want downcast To play podcasts continuously  I want it to move
to next part cost when one is finished  So that it always is playing some
podcasts or the other. Is it possible? 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Shane clark  wrote:

Ok, so I got a notification earlier saying all feeds were refreshed and no
new episodes were available. So why did I get it out of the blue? Again, I
stream all new episodes, and I'm set to automatically refresh every three
hours. I'm just confused as to why I got this notification when I did... Do
these occur when the app is running in the background or does it have to be
closed? I read the help section, but I'm still trying to get the hang of it.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

Also, remember that if you have downcast set to download only when connected
to a wifi connection which I think is the default then it will not complete
the download until you have said connection.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 13:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downcast question

 

In iOS 6, audio-related apps are only allowed to run in the background for
quite a short time. So if you run the app and then switch to another app,
Downcast can keep going for a bit, fetching your podcasts and updating your
feeds. But if you don't switch back from time to time, it's eventually going
to time out and stop doing that. They implemented the location awareness
feature to get around this. So for example it can be set up to update your
feeds when you arrive at the airport.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 13/09/2013, at 1:51 AM, Shane Clark  wrote:






So it doesn 't refresh without opening the app? I thought that  maybe it
did it by itself, because I thought I got a notification one time before
saying two new items were available without opening the app

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:





Hi,

My guess is that it refreshes when you open the app if it's been 3 hours or
more since the last refresh. Double-tap the rEfresh button near the top of
the screen, and Downcast should do it.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Shane clark  wrote:





Hi,
I have my feeds in Downcast to refresh every 3 hours and in notifications
say new episodes button on, and feed refreshing button on. However, today
around 2:30, I was listening to a podcast, and got done, and just left
Downcast running in the background. I checked it about 30 minutes ago to see
if any new podcast where available, and nothing was available. However, when
I opened up podcast five new episodes all of a sudden became available. Why
is this? Why isn't the podcasts refreshing themselves automatically? I
thought that when you left Downcast Running in the background, and you had
everything set up to automatically refresh, that it would without having to
open up the app.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

[Chuck Dean]

Just to stick in my two cents worth, I'm very happy with my for S screen. I 
have not upgraded to five, I didn't see any advantage. I have an iPad mini, so 
if I need more real estate I use it.
I hope to stick with my for us until it will no longer update, or dies an 
untimely death.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Robin  wrote:

> Are you going On the Record stating that you WILL NOT upgrade to a NEW iPhone 
> if it is 6'' (6 inch) touch screen? Or WILL you follow the pack and upgrade 
> to whatever is the latest incarnation of the iPhone at the time of your next 
> upgrade?
> 
> Just wondering.
> 
> Sent From Berkeley,CA
> At 09:12 PM 9/10/2013, you wrote:
>> Personally, I wouldn't want a phone with a larger screen. If you want a 6 
>> inch screen, why don't you get the iPad Mini with a 7 inch screen? The 
>> iPhone 5 fits very nicely in my hand.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Corey Michael Cook
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Features of the 5S and 5C
>> 
>> For my .02 I saw nothing in the 5s that makes me want to go get one. I am
>> really surprised that they did not increase screen size and try to go after
>> Samsung more.
>> 
>> 
>> Corey Cook
>> Facebook:
>> corey.coo...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C
>> 
>> Hi Karen;
>> 
>> I think that's about it.
>> 
>> I'll wait and see what the 6 has to offer.
>> 
>> Anthony
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:16 PM, "Karen Poulakos" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Will it be the same phone as the 5 is now?  or will new features be added?
>> What are the new features of the 5S, other than the security features i've
>> seen mentioned here?
>>> 
>>> Karen P
>>> - Original Message - From: "Fred Olver" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C
>>> 
>>> 
 Karen, the 5C will replace the 5. It will be offered in 16 and 32 GB
>> models.
 Fred Olver
 
 
 
 Author of Dealing with Vision Loss
 
 
 
 have a look it just makes sense.
 
 http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: "Karen Poulakos"
>> 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 2:52 PM
 Subject: Features of the 5S and 5C
 
 
> I've seen lots of posts about the purchase of these phones, but haven't
>> seen any posts about the features offered.  What is the difference between
>> the two?  I now have the 4S, and was planning on upgrading to the 5, with
>> the hopes that one would be offered at a less expensive price. Someone
>> mentioned the 5 will be no longer available?
> 
> Karen P
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Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

[Robin]

Are you going On the Record stating that you WILL NOT upgrade to a 
NEW iPhone if it is 6'' (6 inch) touch screen? Or WILL you follow the 
pack and upgrade to whatever is the latest incarnation of the iPhone 
at the time of your next upgrade?


Just wondering.

Sent From Berkeley,CA
At 09:12 PM 9/10/2013, you wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't want a phone with a larger screen. If you 
want a 6 inch screen, why don't you get the iPad Mini with a 7 inch 
screen? The iPhone 5 fits very nicely in my hand.


Andy


-Original Message- From: Corey Michael Cook
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Features of the 5S and 5C

For my .02 I saw nothing in the 5s that makes me want to go get one. I am
really surprised that they did not increase screen size and try to go after
Samsung more.


Corey Cook
Facebook:
corey.coo...@gmail.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

Hi Karen;

I think that's about it.

I'll wait and see what the 6 has to offer.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:16 PM, "Karen Poulakos" 
wrote:


Will it be the same phone as the 5 is now?  or will new features be added?

What are the new features of the 5S, other than the security features i've
seen mentioned here?


Karen P
- Original Message - From: "Fred Olver" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C



Karen, the 5C will replace the 5. It will be offered in 16 and 32 GB

models.

Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






- Original Message - From: "Karen Poulakos"



To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: Features of the 5S and 5C



I've seen lots of posts about the purchase of these phones, but haven't

seen any posts about the features offered.  What is the difference between
the two?  I now have the 4S, and was planning on upgrading to the 5, with
the hopes that one would be offered at a less expensive price. Someone
mentioned the 5 will be no longer available?


Karen P
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RE: Features of the 5S and 5C

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, not this year. Multiple high quality voices yes, but maybe next year
we'll see more considering iOS 7 is now 64 Bit etc.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

Does anyone know with all of the new features of iOS 7, will VoiceOver on
iDevices have other options than that of Samantha? How about VoiceOver Alex
from the MAC? Just wondering.

Sent From Berkeley,CA
At 01:28 PM 9/10/2013, you wrote:
>The 5 s has a 64 bit processor and a slightly better camera than the 5. 
>It also has the finger print scanner though I would be very hesitant to 
>use that. The 5 c in basically a plastic version of the iphone 5.
>Original message:
>>I've seen lots of posts about the purchase of these phones, but 
>>haven't seen any posts about the features offered.  What is the 
>>difference between the two?  I now have the 4S, and was planning on 
>>upgrading to the 5, with the hopes that one would be offered at a less 
>>expensive price.  Someone mentioned the 5 will be no longer available?
>
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RE: New Ipad or Ipod Touch?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There will most likely be another Apple event in October for iPad, iPod
Touch and apple TV. Haven't heard too many rumours yet, some are for a
Retina iPad Mini which others believe will not be happening, also there are
rumours for an iPad Maxi which might be a 13" or 14" iPad. I guess we shall
know soon enough.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: New Ipad or Ipod Touch?

Has anyone seen any relia le informatio  on whether or not Apple plans to
release a new Ipad or Ipod Touch.  I prefer the full-sized ipad.  Thanks.

Sent from my iPad

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Great Advanced Text Editing Tutorial for IOS

[Joseph FreeTech]

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know of a great advanced text editing, copying and 
pasting tutorial I just came across. I followed along by launching Safari 
and copying text using the techniques demonstrated within the first few 
minutes, and I gotta say, this was very easy and very effective. I launched 
MBraille and sure enough, the sentences I quickly copied from Safari were on 
the clipboard. For those still struggling with the rotor and copy and paste, 
this well produced podcast is a must. .

Exploring and Demonstrating the Advanced Text Editing Capabilities in iOS 
for VoiceOver Users AppleVis
Direct download URL:
http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast453.mp3

Apple Vis podcast URL:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-and-demonstrating-advanced-text-editing-capabilities-ios-voiceover-users

Joseph


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Re: battery drainage found problem

[May and Noah]

Nope, my signal is at 90 to 100.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On 2013-09-13, at 7:49 PM, "Ed Barnes"  wrote:

> Hi May, one question, if you go into settings, wireless on your iPhone where
> you can connect or discofnnect from your wireless LAN, on the screen where
> you choose a network, what signal strength is your iPhone reporting for your
> network, is it possible that the signal is at a very low percentage so
> maintaining the connection throughout your home is taxing the battery? Just
> a thought.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of May and Noah
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: battery drainage found problem
> 
> Good day everyone.
> 
> First off thanks to everyone that sent in suggestions about how to fix my
> battery drainage issue. Well I found the problem but now I'm stumped again
> and could use some suggestions on how this possibly could be fixed.
> 
>   Here is what I discovered today since I have been keeping an eye on
> what's up with my phone and the battery. After a nice dead phone and then a
> full charge I unplugged the phone today and headed out at 7:20 yesterday
> morning and by 9:30, 2 hours later it was still sitting at 99%. Lets say
> maybe around noon I dropped to 95%. That's totally awesome and what I'm use
> to my phone being like. Ok, so, get back home and we our connected back to
> our wifi and here's where we discovered the problem. When I am connected to
> wifi it's killing my battery. It's dropping maybe 5 to 10% every few
> minutes.
> 
> So we double checked to see if in actually was the wifi so I now have wifi
> off and when I did the battery was sitting at 78% that was maybe around
> midnight. It is now 4 in the morning and my battery is sitting at 76%. So
> I'm pretty sure now that it is wifi that is killing my battery all of a
> sudden.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas on how or why this might be?
> 
> keep in mind that this is probably the same issue on the phone I had until
> recent. Two different phones, two different carriers.at a lost now.
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
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Re: Disappearance Of Text Message Alerts

[Christopher Chaltain]

Have you checked the physical mute button on the side of your phone? 
Make sure it's slid towards the face of your phone.


On 09/13/2013 10:47 PM, Eileens Misrahi wrote:

Hello List,

The alert sound for text messages on my iPhone 4 has disappeared. I have 
checked in settings under sound to see if the alert sound is still selected and 
it is. The sound volume is set to 100'%. Where elbbe can I check to get the 
sound back? Any suggestion is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Eileen


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Disappearance Of Text Message Alerts

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hello List,

The alert sound for text messages on my iPhone 4 has disappeared. I have 
checked in settings under sound to see if the alert sound is still selected and 
it is. The sound volume is set to 100'%. Where elbbe can I check to get the 
sound back? Any suggestion is appreciated. 

Thanks in advance.

Eileen


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Re: a cool external battery

[Scott Davert]

Hi all. I use the Limeade 18000 MAH pack and love it. $99 is a bit
hefty, but I don't regret it. They also have smaller moddels. Here's a
review I wrote on it if anyone is interested.
http://www.applevis.com/accessory-reviews/miscellaneous/limeade-18000-mah-battery-pack-lot-power-money

Scott

On 9/13/13, Brent Harding  wrote:
> I have the 10,000 mah version and I think I paid $10 more for it last year.
>
> The one I have also has a 12 volt output jack, I'm not sure what to use
> for.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph FreeTech" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:06 PM
> Subject: Re: a cool external battery
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just couldn't leave Jo's post as is, so here's more info:
>
> Amazon.com: Anker® Astro E4 13000mAh Portable High Capacity Dual-Port
> External Battery Pack Power Bank Backup Charger for iPhone 5 (Apple adapter
> not included),
> 4S, 4, iPad 4, 3, 2, Mini, iPods, Samsung Galaxy S4, S3, S2, Note 2, HTC
> One, EVO, Thunderbolt, Incredible, Droid DNA, Motorola ATRIX, Droid, Google
> Glass,
> $119.99
> Sale: $43.99  & FREE Shipping.
> Color: Black
> .Huge capacity (13000mAh) delivers 6+ charges to most smartphones or an 80%
> charge to an iPad 3 / 4.
> .Super-fast charge output (5V / 3A total) through dual USB ports (5V / 2A
> and 5V / 1A) allow for simultaneous charging of your iPad, iPhone, Android,
> and more at high speed.
> .Smooth, ebony varnish allows you to power up in style, while 4 status LEDs
> keep you informed of remaining capacity. Built-in flashlight for dark or
> low-light environments.
> .Premium lithium-ion battery ensures quality, supplying 500+ recharge
> cycles
> over a lifetime. With a charge input of 5V / 1.5A, use a 1.5A adapter (not
> included) for fastest charging (6.5 hours).
> .Package contents: Anker® Astro E4 External Battery, USB cable, instruction
> manual.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ5KHJW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BQ5KHJW&linkCode=as2&tag=joeo-2
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joe" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:54 PM
> Subject: RE: a cool external battery
>
>
> I want to add my own recommendation for an external battery I've now been
> using for a while and absolutely love. It's also on Amazon and gets 4.6
> stars out of 664 reviews. I've used it on long road trips and extended air
> travel and have had the capacity to recharge a few different iOS and
> Android
> devices on one charge.
>
>
>
> http://amzn.to/182ARae
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Moop Curran
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: a cool external battery
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I came across this external battery while browsing on amazon. I wanted an
> external battery that wasn't a case because I have a good case anyway, and
> I
> wanted to be able to charge different kinds of ios devices, including my
> iPad. The good thing about this battery is that it won't only charge apple
> devices, it will charge any  device as long as it has a standard usb
> connector. I'll provide the link to the product below, it costs about $40,
> which is reasonable for this kind of product. It's 1 M.A., so it can
> fully charge the iphone 2 and a half times. I hope this information is
> helpful to someone.
>
> Link:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009USAJCC/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i02?ie=UT
> F8
>  TF8&psc=1> &psc=1
>
>
>
>
>
> Courtney
>
>
>
> Sent from my iMac
>
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Scott Davert]

Hi.
A few comments, all in one message so as not to clutter inboxes mmore
than necissary.
regarding battery life, it uses about the same amount as the music app
uses from what I can tell. I'm not sure how that would compare to
iBooks or Nook though, but my guess is that it would use less. You can
lock your screen and keep playing the audio on the BARD app. Not sure
about comparing it to Voice Dream either, since I do not have this
app.
As for Android accessibility, I'd posit that it does indeed have quite
a ways to go. Both in terms of access with speech, but much more so
for braile users. Also, and it could simply be because I'm more aware
of iOS apps, but it  seems like iOS has a lot more development in
terms of apps that we can use than Android. That's not tto say some
people aren't happy with their Android devices, I know they are, I can
only speak for myself in using a Nexus 7 for awhile with 4.3 that I
didn't find it a pleasant experience when using braille. Explore by
Touch also still seems a bit quirky.

Scott

On 9/13/13, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> I am wondering if the Bard app will use less battery then iBooks, Nook or
> the Kindle apps while reading them with voice over.
>
>  Sometimes when I am listening to Pandora, I triple click the home button to
> turn voiceover off to save battery.
>
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Roger Frischenmeyer
>  wrote:
>
>> On 9/13/2013 9:41 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>> Yeah, I think I would listen to more books when the app comes out. I'd
>>> rather have one device to do everything than individual stuff to do one
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker"
>>> 
>>> To: "viphone" 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I partly disagree here.  It depends on the media being played, and how
>>> the content is being delivered really.  for the sake of this topic will
>>> just keep it to audio.  I’ve listened to hours of audiobooks via the
>>> audible app and only lose a few percentage points on my battery life.
>>> The same goes for listening to music stored on the device.  Of course,
>>> streaming audio causes the battery to drain faster.
>>>
>>> I mean, I agree that listening to audio will drain your battery but,
>>> compared with all the other things we do with our phones, this doesn’t
>>> really impact battery life as much.
>>>
>>> As the saying goes though, to each their own.  I much rather have 1 less
>>> device to carry although it means getting an hour a day less out of my
>>> phone before charging.
>>>
>>> JMO.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:57 PM, eric oyen  wrote:
>>>
 there are advantages to using a separate device.
 Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks
 down battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps
 that have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode
 reader). all of these devices are specially designed for that one task.
 Its been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when
 you want reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to
 have the extra devices on hand.

 Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
 device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than
 just a phone.

 Just something to keep in mind.

 -eric

 On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded
> from
> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app,
> and
> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
> why
> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some
> may
> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
> upgrading
> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let
> you
> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
> ---
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act
> now!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> http://www.h

Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Mike Arrigo]

Yes. I have one of these, the mophie juice pack case is awesome, as far as I'm 
concerned it's the best iphone case you can get.
On Sep 13, 2013, at 6:53 PM, "Rick Alfaro"  wrote:

> Definitely, that would be my first accessory, a case with built-in battery.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joseph FreeTech
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no
> longer an issue.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "eric oyen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> 
> there are advantages to using a separate device.
> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
> devices on hand.
> 
> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a 
> phone.
> 
> Just something to keep in mind.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
>> why
>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
>> upgrading
>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>> ---
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
>> on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
>> my
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> 
>>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
>>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very 
>>> log
>> 
>>> time for it.
>>> 
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>> 
 The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
 
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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Joseph FreeTech]

No problem. For next time, the more detail the better.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps


Thanks I was trying to do it from ITunes on my PC.

On 9/13/13, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> If you mean you have not been able to access the list of all apps you have
> Purchased and installed on your IOS device, try this...
>
> To update apps on your IOS device:
> 1. Go to the apps store using your home screen icon. You can also launch 
> the
>
> Apps store by using Siri and saying the following:
> "launch apps store."
> 2. At the very bottom row of icons in the Apps store you will find
> "Updates." Swipe to the right and Double tap on that icon when you find 
> it.
> 3. Wait for a series of tones telling you that your iPhone is loading the
> page.
> 4. Use the 4-finger tap at the top of the screen to be taken to the first
> icon which should be Updates.
> 5. Swipe to the right about 4 times and you should get a listing of all 
> the
>
> apps available for you to update.
> 6. To update a specific app simply swipe to the right until you read the
> details of the desired app and eventually you will reach the "Update X app
> button." Double-tap that Update button to begin the installation of the
> update. When the process is complete, the Update button will change to
> "Open."
> ***7. If you want to review a complete list of all installed apps on your
> IOS device, while on the Updates screen, simply use the 4-finger single 
> tap
>
> to be placed at the top of the screen then swipe to the right and 
> double-tap
>
> on the "Purchased" icon. You will hear a series of sounds informing you 
> that
>
> the page is loading. When the page loads you can simply start from the top
> of the screen and swipe to the right, and eventually you will come across 
> a
>
> listing of every app you have installed on your device.
> Note: When on the updates page, be sure to avoid pressing the "Update all
> button" as it will install all updates at once. This can be useful under
> certain circumstances as you will not have to update a single app at a 
> time,
>
> but sometimes you may not want to update an app as newer changes might
> render the app a bit less useful to a blind IOS user.
>
> Please feel free to reply and request any clarification if necessary as 
> the
>
> information above definitely applies to IOS 6.13, but I'm fairly confident
> the instructions set above will also apply to recent version of the
> iPhone--with a little modification if necessary. (Smile).
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps
>
>
> I've never been able to find the purchased apps list in the store.
> I've definitely looked for it.
>
> On 9/13/13, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>> All true, but if I'm off someplace, nowhere near my computer, the app is
>> there on my phone if I Need it. If I don't need the  space, there's no
>> reason to take it off, in my humble opinion.
>>
>> Chuck (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> Why keep apps on your device that aren't being used and are taking up
>>> space, whether one needs to free up space or not. Once an app is
>>> downloaded, free or paid, to your device it is yours. Apple can not
>>> charge
>>> you for a free app that you have uninstalled and want to reinstall. And
>>> they can not charge again for an app that you have already paid for.
>>> Reinstalling a deleted app is simple.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
 Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a
 folder I call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very
 much. You never know, you might want it  someday.

 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson 
 wrote:

> Hello Tracy,
>
> Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you
> get
> the StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>
>> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps
>> was a sweeping subject for the list of apps.
>>
>> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty
>> much replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of
>> products
>> in my hand, I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've
>> used it to identify pics on my device.
>>
>> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't
>> use them enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for
>> reading mail or long

Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Chuck Dean]

I am wondering if the Bard app will use less battery then iBooks, Nook or the 
Kindle apps while reading them with voice over.

 Sometimes when I am listening to Pandora, I triple click the home button to 
turn voiceover off to save battery.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Roger Frischenmeyer  
wrote:

> On 9/13/2013 9:41 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>> Yeah, I think I would listen to more books when the app comes out. I'd 
>> rather have one device to do everything than individual stuff to do one 
>> thing.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
>> To: "viphone" 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I partly disagree here.  It depends on the media being played, and how the 
>> content is being delivered really.  for the sake of this topic will just 
>> keep it to audio.  I’ve listened to hours of audiobooks via the audible app 
>> and only lose a few percentage points on my battery life.  The same goes for 
>> listening to music stored on the device.  Of course, streaming audio causes 
>> the battery to drain faster.
>> 
>> I mean, I agree that listening to audio will drain your battery but, 
>> compared with all the other things we do with our phones, this doesn’t 
>> really impact battery life as much.
>> 
>> As the saying goes though, to each their own.  I much rather have 1 less 
>> device to carry although it means getting an hour a day less out of my phone 
>> before charging.
>> 
>> JMO.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:57 PM, eric oyen  wrote:
>> 
>>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
>>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
>>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
>>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
>>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
>>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
>>> devices on hand.
>>> 
>>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
>>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a 
>>> phone.
>>> 
>>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
 BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
 Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine why
 one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
 still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
 upgrading
 to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
 
 I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
 listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Scott Rumery" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
 Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
 
 
> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log
 
> time for it.
> 
> Scott Rumery
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
>> 
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Roger Frischenmeyer]

On 9/13/2013 9:41 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
Yeah, I think I would listen to more books when the app comes out. I'd 
rather have one device to do everything than individual stuff to do 
one thing.


- Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 


To: "viphone" 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


Hi,

I partly disagree here.  It depends on the media being played, and how 
the content is being delivered really.  for the sake of this topic 
will just keep it to audio.  I’ve listened to hours of audiobooks via 
the audible app and only lose a few percentage points on my battery 
life.  The same goes for listening to music stored on the device.  Of 
course, streaming audio causes the battery to drain faster.


I mean, I agree that listening to audio will drain your battery but, 
compared with all the other things we do with our phones, this doesn’t 
really impact battery life as much.


As the saying goes though, to each their own.  I much rather have 1 
less device to carry although it means getting an hour a day less out 
of my phone before charging.


JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:57 PM, eric oyen  wrote:


there are advantages to using a separate device.
Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks 
down battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other 
apps that have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and 
barcode reader). all of these devices are specially designed for that 
one task. Its been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a 
pinch, but when you want reliability without sacrificing battery 
life, its better to have the extra devices on hand.


Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than 
just a phone.


Just something to keep in mind.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded 
from
BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook 
app, and
Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to 
imagine why
one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure 
some may
still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
upgrading

to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let 
you

listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format 
formerly on my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Rumery" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news 
because I
know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a 
very log



time for it.

Scott Rumery
On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:


The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.

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Re: text grabber & Prismo question

[Chuck Dean]

I have not found any way to do this with TextGrabber. I wish it had this 
ability, as it is the only thing lacking with this app.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering, have anyone of you listers use any of the  ocr app for multi 
> page scan?
> I'm not talking about few pages, but i'm talking more like a book or such.
> If so, do yu know if text grabber can do it and save as one file?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Joanne Chua
> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
> Send from my iPad
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Re: a cool external battery

[Brent Harding]

I have the 10,000 mah version and I think I paid $10 more for it last year. 
The one I have also has a 12 volt output jack, I'm not sure what to use for.


- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph FreeTech" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: a cool external battery


Hi All,

Just couldn't leave Jo's post as is, so here's more info:

Amazon.com: Anker® Astro E4 13000mAh Portable High Capacity Dual-Port
External Battery Pack Power Bank Backup Charger for iPhone 5 (Apple adapter
not included),
4S, 4, iPad 4, 3, 2, Mini, iPods, Samsung Galaxy S4, S3, S2, Note 2, HTC
One, EVO, Thunderbolt, Incredible, Droid DNA, Motorola ATRIX, Droid, Google
Glass,
$119.99
Sale: $43.99  & FREE Shipping.
Color: Black
.Huge capacity (13000mAh) delivers 6+ charges to most smartphones or an 80%
charge to an iPad 3 / 4.
.Super-fast charge output (5V / 3A total) through dual USB ports (5V / 2A
and 5V / 1A) allow for simultaneous charging of your iPad, iPhone, Android,
and more at high speed.
.Smooth, ebony varnish allows you to power up in style, while 4 status LEDs
keep you informed of remaining capacity. Built-in flashlight for dark or
low-light environments.
.Premium lithium-ion battery ensures quality, supplying 500+ recharge cycles
over a lifetime. With a charge input of 5V / 1.5A, use a 1.5A adapter (not
included) for fastest charging (6.5 hours).
.Package contents: Anker® Astro E4 External Battery, USB cable, instruction
manual.
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Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: a cool external battery


I want to add my own recommendation for an external battery I've now been
using for a while and absolutely love. It's also on Amazon and gets 4.6
stars out of 664 reviews. I've used it on long road trips and extended air
travel and have had the capacity to recharge a few different iOS and Android
devices on one charge.



http://amzn.to/182ARae



Joe



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Moop Curran
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a cool external battery



Hi,

I came across this external battery while browsing on amazon. I wanted an
external battery that wasn't a case because I have a good case anyway, and I
wanted to be able to charge different kinds of ios devices, including my
iPad. The good thing about this battery is that it won't only charge apple
devices, it will charge any  device as long as it has a standard usb
connector. I'll provide the link to the product below, it costs about $40,
which is reasonable for this kind of product. It's 1 M.A., so it can
fully charge the iphone 2 and a half times. I hope this information is
helpful to someone.

Link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009USAJCC/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i02?ie=UT
F8
 &psc=1





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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Thanks I was trying to do it from ITunes on my PC.

On 9/13/13, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> If you mean you have not been able to access the list of all apps you have
> Purchased and installed on your IOS device, try this...
>
> To update apps on your IOS device:
> 1. Go to the apps store using your home screen icon. You can also launch the
>
> Apps store by using Siri and saying the following:
> "launch apps store."
> 2. At the very bottom row of icons in the Apps store you will find
> "Updates." Swipe to the right and Double tap on that icon when you find it.
> 3. Wait for a series of tones telling you that your iPhone is loading the
> page.
> 4. Use the 4-finger tap at the top of the screen to be taken to the first
> icon which should be Updates.
> 5. Swipe to the right about 4 times and you should get a listing of all the
>
> apps available for you to update.
> 6. To update a specific app simply swipe to the right until you read the
> details of the desired app and eventually you will reach the "Update X app
> button." Double-tap that Update button to begin the installation of the
> update. When the process is complete, the Update button will change to
> "Open."
> ***7. If you want to review a complete list of all installed apps on your
> IOS device, while on the Updates screen, simply use the 4-finger single tap
>
> to be placed at the top of the screen then swipe to the right and double-tap
>
> on the "Purchased" icon. You will hear a series of sounds informing you that
>
> the page is loading. When the page loads you can simply start from the top
> of the screen and swipe to the right, and eventually you will come across a
>
> listing of every app you have installed on your device.
> Note: When on the updates page, be sure to avoid pressing the "Update all
> button" as it will install all updates at once. This can be useful under
> certain circumstances as you will not have to update a single app at a time,
>
> but sometimes you may not want to update an app as newer changes might
> render the app a bit less useful to a blind IOS user.
>
> Please feel free to reply and request any clarification if necessary as the
>
> information above definitely applies to IOS 6.13, but I'm fairly confident
> the instructions set above will also apply to recent version of the
> iPhone--with a little modification if necessary. (Smile).
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps
>
>
> I've never been able to find the purchased apps list in the store.
> I've definitely looked for it.
>
> On 9/13/13, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>> All true, but if I'm off someplace, nowhere near my computer, the app is
>> there on my phone if I Need it. If I don't need the  space, there's no
>> reason to take it off, in my humble opinion.
>>
>> Chuck (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> Why keep apps on your device that aren't being used and are taking up
>>> space, whether one needs to free up space or not. Once an app is
>>> downloaded, free or paid, to your device it is yours. Apple can not
>>> charge
>>> you for a free app that you have uninstalled and want to reinstall. And
>>> they can not charge again for an app that you have already paid for.
>>> Reinstalling a deleted app is simple.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
 Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a
 folder I call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very
 much. You never know, you might want it  someday.

 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson 
 wrote:

> Hello Tracy,
>
> Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you
> get
> the StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>
>> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps
>> was a sweeping subject for the list of apps.
>>
>> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty
>> much replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of
>> products
>> in my hand, I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've
>> used it to identify pics on my device.
>>
>> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't
>> use them enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for
>> reading mail or longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've
>> taken a screen shot of an online receipt and have it read it to me.
>>
>> I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText,
>> DocScanner,
>> or SayText.
>>>

Re: Mapsapp question about route options

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm sure someone will help you out with the native Maps app, and I'm 
sure this is doable with the Maps app. Another app you may want to check 
out is the Google Maps app. It's accessible with VoiceOver, and I know 
I've brought up the different route options with it. I understand if you 
don't want to give another GPS app a try though.


On 09/13/2013 08:48 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Hi,

We’re planning a 100 mile drive this weekend, and I’m trying to find a
good route using the Maps app.

After entering the addresses, I get a result that offers “First of 3
suggested routes.”

But  I can’t figure out how to check out the 2 other suggested routes..

Cann someone explain to me how to do this? I’ve tried tapping, swiping,
double-tap-and-holding; seemingly everything. I’m sure it will prove to
be a simple solution.

Thanks. Keith

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Brent Harding]

Yeah, I think I would listen to more books when the app comes out. I'd 
rather have one device to do everything than individual stuff to do one 
thing.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


Hi,

I partly disagree here.  It depends on the media being played, and how the 
content is being delivered really.  for the sake of this topic will just 
keep it to audio.  I’ve listened to hours of audiobooks via the audible app 
and only lose a few percentage points on my battery life.  The same goes for 
listening to music stored on the device.  Of course, streaming audio causes 
the battery to drain faster.


I mean, I agree that listening to audio will drain your battery but, 
compared with all the other things we do with our phones, this doesn’t 
really impact battery life as much.


As the saying goes though, to each their own.  I much rather have 1 less 
device to carry although it means getting an hour a day less out of my phone 
before charging.


JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:57 PM, eric oyen  wrote:


there are advantages to using a separate device.
Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
devices on hand.


Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just 
a phone.


Just something to keep in mind.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:


Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
why

one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
upgrading

to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
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Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Rumery" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval



How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very 
log



time for it.

Scott Rumery
On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:


The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.

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text grabber & Prismo question

[Joanne Chua]

Hi all,

Just wondering, have anyone of you listers use any of the  ocr app for multi 
page scan?
I'm not talking about few pages, but i'm talking more like a book or such.
If so, do yu know if text grabber can do it and save as one file?

Thanks

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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Joseph FreeTech]

Hi John,

If you mean you have not been able to access the list of all apps you have 
Purchased and installed on your IOS device, try this...

To update apps on your IOS device:
1. Go to the apps store using your home screen icon. You can also launch the 
Apps store by using Siri and saying the following:
"launch apps store."
2. At the very bottom row of icons in the Apps store you will find 
"Updates." Swipe to the right and Double tap on that icon when you find it.
3. Wait for a series of tones telling you that your iPhone is loading the 
page.
4. Use the 4-finger tap at the top of the screen to be taken to the first 
icon which should be Updates.
5. Swipe to the right about 4 times and you should get a listing of all the 
apps available for you to update.
6. To update a specific app simply swipe to the right until you read the 
details of the desired app and eventually you will reach the "Update X app 
button." Double-tap that Update button to begin the installation of the 
update. When the process is complete, the Update button will change to 
"Open."
***7. If you want to review a complete list of all installed apps on your 
IOS device, while on the Updates screen, simply use the 4-finger single tap 
to be placed at the top of the screen then swipe to the right and double-tap 
on the "Purchased" icon. You will hear a series of sounds informing you that 
the page is loading. When the page loads you can simply start from the top 
of the screen and swipe to the right, and eventually you will come across a 
listing of every app you have installed on your device.
Note: When on the updates page, be sure to avoid pressing the "Update all 
button" as it will install all updates at once. This can be useful under 
certain circumstances as you will not have to update a single app at a time, 
but sometimes you may not want to update an app as newer changes might 
render the app a bit less useful to a blind IOS user.

Please feel free to reply and request any clarification if necessary as the 
information above definitely applies to IOS 6.13, but I'm fairly confident 
the instructions set above will also apply to recent version of the 
iPhone--with a little modification if necessary. (Smile).

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps


I've never been able to find the purchased apps list in the store.
I've definitely looked for it.

On 9/13/13, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> All true, but if I'm off someplace, nowhere near my computer, the app is
> there on my phone if I Need it. If I don't need the  space, there's no
> reason to take it off, in my humble opinion.
>
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Donna  wrote:
>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Why keep apps on your device that aren't being used and are taking up
>> space, whether one needs to free up space or not. Once an app is
>> downloaded, free or paid, to your device it is yours. Apple can not 
>> charge
>> you for a free app that you have uninstalled and want to reinstall. And
>> they can not charge again for an app that you have already paid for.
>> Reinstalling a deleted app is simple.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>> Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a
>>> folder I call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very
>>> much. You never know, you might want it  someday.
>>>
>>> Chuck (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Tracy,

 Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get
 the StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.

 Cheers,

 Anne


 On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps
> was a sweeping subject for the list of apps.
>
> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty
> much replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products
> in my hand, I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've
> used it to identify pics on my device.
>
> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't
> use them enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for
> reading mail or longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've
> taken a screen shot of an online receipt and have it read it to me.
>
> I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, 
> DocScanner,
> or SayText.
>
> When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time
> having it recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool
> app with impressive technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)
>
> Hopefully that

Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

On your device, open the app store and double tap on the updates tab.  
Purchased is the first thing on the page under the updates heading.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:

> I've never been able to find the purchased apps list in the store.
> I've definitely looked for it.
> 
> On 9/13/13, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>> All true, but if I'm off someplace, nowhere near my computer, the app is
>> there on my phone if I Need it. If I don't need the  space, there's no
>> reason to take it off, in my humble opinion.
>> 
>> Chuck (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> Why keep apps on your device that aren't being used and are taking up
>>> space, whether one needs to free up space or not. Once an app is
>>> downloaded, free or paid, to your device it is yours. Apple can not charge
>>> you for a free app that you have uninstalled and want to reinstall. And
>>> they can not charge again for an app that you have already paid for.
>>> Reinstalling a deleted app is simple.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
 Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a
 folder I call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very
 much. You never know, you might want it  someday.
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson 
 wrote:
 
> Hello Tracy,
> 
> Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get
> the StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
>> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps
>> was a sweeping subject for the list of apps.
>> 
>> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty
>> much replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products
>> in my hand, I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've
>> used it to identify pics on my device.
>> 
>> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't
>> use them enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for
>> reading mail or longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've
>> taken a screen shot of an online receipt and have it read it to me.
>> 
>> I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner,
>> or SayText.
>> 
>> When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time
>> having it recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool
>> app with impressive technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)
>> 
>> Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store
>> history and remind myself which ones I paid for.
>> 
>> Traci
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Re: a cool external battery

[Joseph FreeTech]

Hi All,

Just couldn't leave Jo's post as is, so here's more info:

Amazon.com: Anker® Astro E4 13000mAh Portable High Capacity Dual-Port 
External Battery Pack Power Bank Backup Charger for iPhone 5 (Apple adapter 
not included),
4S, 4, iPad 4, 3, 2, Mini, iPods, Samsung Galaxy S4, S3, S2, Note 2, HTC 
One, EVO, Thunderbolt, Incredible, Droid DNA, Motorola ATRIX, Droid, Google 
Glass,
$119.99
Sale: $43.99  & FREE Shipping.
Color: Black
.Huge capacity (13000mAh) delivers 6+ charges to most smartphones or an 80% 
charge to an iPad 3 / 4.
.Super-fast charge output (5V / 3A total) through dual USB ports (5V / 2A 
and 5V / 1A) allow for simultaneous charging of your iPad, iPhone, Android, 
and more at high speed.
.Smooth, ebony varnish allows you to power up in style, while 4 status LEDs 
keep you informed of remaining capacity. Built-in flashlight for dark or 
low-light environments.
.Premium lithium-ion battery ensures quality, supplying 500+ recharge cycles 
over a lifetime. With a charge input of 5V / 1.5A, use a 1.5A adapter (not 
included) for fastest charging (6.5 hours).
.Package contents: Anker® Astro E4 External Battery, USB cable, instruction 
manual.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ5KHJW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BQ5KHJW&linkCode=as2&tag=joeo-2

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: a cool external battery


I want to add my own recommendation for an external battery I've now been
using for a while and absolutely love. It's also on Amazon and gets 4.6
stars out of 664 reviews. I've used it on long road trips and extended air
travel and have had the capacity to recharge a few different iOS and Android
devices on one charge.



http://amzn.to/182ARae



Joe



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Moop Curran
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a cool external battery



Hi,

I came across this external battery while browsing on amazon. I wanted an
external battery that wasn't a case because I have a good case anyway, and I
wanted to be able to charge different kinds of ios devices, including my
iPad. The good thing about this battery is that it won't only charge apple
devices, it will charge any  device as long as it has a standard usb
connector. I'll provide the link to the product below, it costs about $40,
which is reasonable for this kind of product. It's 1 M.A., so it can
fully charge the iphone 2 and a half times. I hope this information is
helpful to someone.

Link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009USAJCC/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i02?ie=UT
F8
 &psc=1





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Re: Mapsapp question about route options

[Joseph FreeTech]

Unless you are determine to make this work with the IOS app, you can make 
life a little easier on yourself if you use Google maps via Internet 
Explorer and such on your desktop. The interface will give you an option to 
enter beginning and ending address. When you have found a satisfactory path, 
you can copy and paste to a text file and email to yourself or copy and 
paste to Dropbox.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=ll

Joseph

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: Mapsapp question about route options


Hi,

We're planning a 100 mile drive this weekend, and I'm trying to find a good 
route using the Maps app.

After entering the addresses, I get a result that offers "First of 3 
suggested routes."

But  I can't figure out how to check out the 2 other suggested routes..

Cann someone explain to me how to do this? I've tried tapping, swiping, 
double-tap-and-holding; seemingly everything. I'm sure it will prove to be a 
simple solution.

Thanks. Keith

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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I've never been able to find the purchased apps list in the store.
I've definitely looked for it.

On 9/13/13, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> All true, but if I'm off someplace, nowhere near my computer, the app is
> there on my phone if I Need it. If I don't need the  space, there's no
> reason to take it off, in my humble opinion.
>
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Donna  wrote:
>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Why keep apps on your device that aren't being used and are taking up
>> space, whether one needs to free up space or not. Once an app is
>> downloaded, free or paid, to your device it is yours. Apple can not charge
>> you for a free app that you have uninstalled and want to reinstall. And
>> they can not charge again for an app that you have already paid for.
>> Reinstalling a deleted app is simple.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>> Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a
>>> folder I call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very
>>> much. You never know, you might want it  someday.
>>>
>>> Chuck (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Tracy,

 Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get
 the StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.

 Cheers,

 Anne


 On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps
> was a sweeping subject for the list of apps.
>
> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty
> much replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products
> in my hand, I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've
> used it to identify pics on my device.
>
> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't
> use them enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for
> reading mail or longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've
> taken a screen shot of an online receipt and have it read it to me.
>
> I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner,
> or SayText.
>
> When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time
> having it recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool
> app with impressive technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)
>
> Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store
> history and remind myself which ones I paid for.
>
> Traci

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Re: battery drainage found problem

[Alan Paganelli]

I know that when connected to my home network, The lowest I get is a 90 and 
it's usually up around 95%.  I assume other home routers get around the same, 
it's hard to believe that would be the problem.





Alan

Sent from my iPhone 4.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "Ed Barnes"  wrote:

> Hi May, one question, if you go into settings, wireless on your iPhone where
> you can connect or discofnnect from your wireless LAN, on the screen where
> you choose a network, what signal strength is your iPhone reporting for your
> network, is it possible that the signal is at a very low percentage so
> maintaining the connection throughout your home is taxing the battery? Just
> a thought.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of May and Noah
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: battery drainage found problem
> 
> Good day everyone.
> 
> First off thanks to everyone that sent in suggestions about how to fix my
> battery drainage issue. Well I found the problem but now I'm stumped again
> and could use some suggestions on how this possibly could be fixed.
> 
>Here is what I discovered today since I have been keeping an eye on
> what's up with my phone and the battery. After a nice dead phone and then a
> full charge I unplugged the phone today and headed out at 7:20 yesterday
> morning and by 9:30, 2 hours later it was still sitting at 99%. Lets say
> maybe around noon I dropped to 95%. That's totally awesome and what I'm use
> to my phone being like. Ok, so, get back home and we our connected back to
> our wifi and here's where we discovered the problem. When I am connected to
> wifi it's killing my battery. It's dropping maybe 5 to 10% every few
> minutes.
> 
> So we double checked to see if in actually was the wifi so I now have wifi
> off and when I did the battery was sitting at 78% that was maybe around
> midnight. It is now 4 in the morning and my battery is sitting at 76%. So
> I'm pretty sure now that it is wifi that is killing my battery all of a
> sudden.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas on how or why this might be?
> 
> keep in mind that this is probably the same issue on the phone I had until
> recent. Two different phones, two different carriers.at a lost now.
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Yes I have drop box. I have also tried using Down Cast but couldn't
get it to read books or magazines.

On 9/13/13, eric oyen  wrote:
> I know they cost real money right now. THe one thing I see happening is that
> the apps will eventually force the hardware manufacturers to realize that
> they need to lower the price or go out of business.
>
> A case for this is the dedicated currency readers. Those used to cost more
> than $400 and now you can get one for less than $100 (the iBill). THis was a
> direct result of the look-tell money reader app. I have both and I use both,
> though the app is easier to use in a busy environment (such as shopping).
> The iBill does have one feature that I think they are still having a problem
> with on the look-tell app: it can easily tell the difference between
> counterfeit and real currency.
>
>
> oh yeah, I use my braille sense as a GPS navigation tool as the Sendaro
> software includes network updated maps. Its not just my note taker and
> braille reader. Now if I can just find some ham radio apps that would work
> in windows CE, then I would have a nice Ham radio shack and not have to use
> a desktop computer. :)
>
> -eric
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
>
>> Regarding limited incomes... Add up the amount of money spent on your
>> blindness related hardware and compare that to the cost of comparable IOS
>>
>> apps. I'm sure you will find that the hardware devices for the blind will
>>
>> costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars where the apps are a few
>> dollars
>> here and there.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "eric oyen" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>
>>
>> yes, assuming one can afford such a device on a limited income. The other
>>
>> devices I have courtesy of the CCB (as a contract for the state of arizona
>>
>> vocational rehabilitation services).
>>
>> I happen to be an iPhone user/owner myself and like that it does have all
>>
>> these apps available. However, some of them just don't work as well as
>> discrete devices do. For instance, navigon has an interface that is more
>> complicated than it needs to be, and the look-tell money reader requires a
>>
>> background source of light to be useful. The color detector app also needs
>>
>> ambient light to function whereas the stand alone light detector device
>> uses
>> a low power laser. Each device and app have their pros and cons. Me,
>> personally, I would rather have the backup device in case the iPhone gets
>>
>> broken or stolen (which happens more than anyone realizes). Also, the
>> available bar code scanner app for the iPhone (red laser) isn't accessible
>>
>> (it requires someone to see the view finder display to make sure the
>> barcode
>> is centered). So, having the bar code reader (ID Mate) is far more
>> useful.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
>>
>>> Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no
>>> longer an issue.
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "eric oyen" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>>
>>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks
>>> down
>>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
>>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode
>>> reader).
>>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been
>>> my
>>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
>>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the
>>> extra
>>> devices on hand.
>>>
>>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
>>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just
>>>
>>> a
>>> phone.
>>>
>>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>>
 Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded
 from
 BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app,
 and
 Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
 why
 one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some
 may
 still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
 upgrading
 to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.


 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

 I haven't been following this thread.  I

RE: a cool external battery

[Joe]

I want to add my own recommendation for an external battery I've now been
using for a while and absolutely love. It's also on Amazon and gets 4.6
stars out of 664 reviews. I've used it on long road trips and extended air
travel and have had the capacity to recharge a few different iOS and Android
devices on one charge.

 

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Joe

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Moop Curran
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a cool external battery

 

Hi,

I came across this external battery while browsing on amazon. I wanted an
external battery that wasn't a case because I have a good case anyway, and I
wanted to be able to charge different kinds of ios devices, including my
iPad. The good thing about this battery is that it won't only charge apple
devices, it will charge any  device as long as it has a standard usb
connector. I'll provide the link to the product below, it costs about $40,
which is reasonable for this kind of product. It's 1 M.A., so it can
fully charge the iphone 2 and a half times. I hope this information is
helpful to someone.

Link: 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009USAJCC/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i02?ie=UT
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Joseph FreeTech]

Eventually? I think more like they have already done so. . That 
Freedom Scientific pac mate, it is 10 years out of date and hasn't been 
developed in years. In fact, judging from the huge 40% plus discounts, they 
can't get rid of it. I just read a blurb on a podcast website where the 
manufacturer of one of those blindness Note takers is touting their support 
for the RTF file format in their most current firmware. RTF?--What year is 
it again? On your point regarding counterfeit money, well, I've never had a 
problem with this, so I'm assuming that even though the chances exist, its 
not an issue I will have to tackle on a day to day basis, nor even rarely.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "eric oyen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


I know they cost real money right now. THe one thing I see happening is that 
the apps will eventually force the hardware manufacturers to realize that 
they need to lower the price or go out of business.

A case for this is the dedicated currency readers. Those used to cost more 
than $400 and now you can get one for less than $100 (the iBill). THis was a 
direct result of the look-tell money reader app. I have both and I use both, 
though the app is easier to use in a busy environment (such as shopping). 
The iBill does have one feature that I think they are still having a problem 
with on the look-tell app: it can easily tell the difference between 
counterfeit and real currency.


oh yeah, I use my braille sense as a GPS navigation tool as the Sendaro 
software includes network updated maps. Its not just my note taker and 
braille reader. Now if I can just find some ham radio apps that would work 
in windows CE, then I would have a nice Ham radio shack and not have to use 
a desktop computer. :)

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

> Regarding limited incomes... Add up the amount of money spent on your
> blindness related hardware and compare that to the cost of comparable IOS
> apps. I'm sure you will find that the hardware devices for the blind will
> costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars where the apps are a few 
> dollars
> here and there.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "eric oyen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
>
> yes, assuming one can afford such a device on a limited income. The other
> devices I have courtesy of the CCB (as a contract for the state of arizona
> vocational rehabilitation services).
>
> I happen to be an iPhone user/owner myself and like that it does have all
> these apps available. However, some of them just don't work as well as
> discrete devices do. For instance, navigon has an interface that is more
> complicated than it needs to be, and the look-tell money reader requires a
> background source of light to be useful. The color detector app also needs
> ambient light to function whereas the stand alone light detector device 
> uses
> a low power laser. Each device and app have their pros and cons. Me,
> personally, I would rather have the backup device in case the iPhone gets
> broken or stolen (which happens more than anyone realizes). Also, the
> available bar code scanner app for the iPhone (red laser) isn't accessible
> (it requires someone to see the view finder display to make sure the 
> barcode
> is centered). So, having the bar code reader (ID Mate) is far more useful.
>
> -eric
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
>
>> Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no
>> longer an issue.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "eric oyen" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>
>>
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode 
>> reader).
>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been 
>> my
>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the 
>> extra
>> devices on hand.
>>
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just
>> a
>> phone.
>>
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, 
>>> and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
>>> why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some 

Re: Battery usage with Audible app.

[Joanne Chua]

I think it is not so much about the app itself, but its about how you use it. 
One would have thought, apps like audible podcast, music and that will take up 
the same amount of battery. Then, you have other apps, e.g. GPS apps that could 
run in the background, or use location services, that could also take up the 
reasonable amount of battery as well.
Yes, indeed, like Christopher said, one can also use different device for 
different task. That could help saving your battery. However, if you do that, 
what is the need for having an iPhone or iPad? you might just get an EReader, 
daisy player, cheap phone that able you to phone and text, stand alone gps 
unit, etc.
Bare in mind though, average stand alone gps unit could last you somewhare 
around 2 to 4 hours, Average low cost phone could have around 1  or 2 weeks 
stand by time, a daisy player could last you about 10 to 16 hours battery per 
charge, and well, you might get lots more hours from a EReader.
At the end of the day, you will still having battery issue regardless of what 
device you use. Its all about how you use it.
The way i preserve my battery is by making sure i close all the unnecesarry 
apps and remove them from the app switcher and having my screen brightness to 0%
Also, if my battery gets rediculously low, like below 10% for example, i 
usually have my device  on fly mode. Although, to be honest, i'm not sure if 
fly mode does help to preserve some battery.

Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

On 14/09/2013, at 11:01, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> I don't think anyone expressed a concern that the BARD Mobile app would 
> excessibley drain an iPhone battery. I think the point was that when you use 
> multiple devices for various tasks then you will be spreading out your 
> battery drain across multiple devices. This is just one example why someone 
> might want to use a book reader for reading books, an MP3 player to listen to 
> music and an iPhone to test and make phone calls. I don't think there's any 
> concern that the BARD Mobile app or any book reading app in and of itself 
> uses up a lot of battery juice.
> 
> On 09/13/2013 07:00 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all who use audible .com,
>> There has been some concern about battery usage with the upcoming Bart app. 
>> I was curious, how does the audible app do with battery life?
>> I would think it may be comparable to the NLS app.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
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Mapsapp question about route options

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

We're planning a 100 mile drive this weekend, and I'm trying to find a good 
route using the Maps app.

After entering the addresses, I get a result that offers "First of 3 suggested 
routes."

But  I can't figure out how to check out the 2 other suggested routes..

Cann someone explain to me how to do this? I've tried tapping, swiping, 
double-tap-and-holding; seemingly everything. I'm sure it will prove to be a 
simple solution.

Thanks. Keith

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Re: downgrading i-OS

[Bill Gallik]

Of course, what was I thinking earlier today!

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "Chase after the truth like all hell and you'll free yourself, even though 
you never touch its coat tails."

- Clarence Darrow, American Lawyer & Politician, 1857-1938
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris H" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: downgrading i-OS


A backup isn't enough I don't think. That will only backup the contacts, 
settings, etc.




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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[eric oyen]

I know they cost real money right now. THe one thing I see happening is that 
the apps will eventually force the hardware manufacturers to realize that they 
need to lower the price or go out of business. 

A case for this is the dedicated currency readers. Those used to cost more than 
$400 and now you can get one for less than $100 (the iBill). THis was a direct 
result of the look-tell money reader app. I have both and I use both, though 
the app is easier to use in a busy environment (such as shopping). The iBill 
does have one feature that I think they are still having a problem with on the 
look-tell app: it can easily tell the difference between counterfeit and real 
currency.


oh yeah, I use my braille sense as a GPS navigation tool as the Sendaro 
software includes network updated maps. Its not just my note taker and braille 
reader. Now if I can just find some ham radio apps that would work in windows 
CE, then I would have a nice Ham radio shack and not have to use a desktop 
computer. :)

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

> Regarding limited incomes... Add up the amount of money spent on your 
> blindness related hardware and compare that to the cost of comparable IOS 
> apps. I'm sure you will find that the hardware devices for the blind will 
> costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars where the apps are a few dollars 
> here and there.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "eric oyen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> 
> yes, assuming one can afford such a device on a limited income. The other 
> devices I have courtesy of the CCB (as a contract for the state of arizona 
> vocational rehabilitation services).
> 
> I happen to be an iPhone user/owner myself and like that it does have all 
> these apps available. However, some of them just don't work as well as 
> discrete devices do. For instance, navigon has an interface that is more 
> complicated than it needs to be, and the look-tell money reader requires a 
> background source of light to be useful. The color detector app also needs 
> ambient light to function whereas the stand alone light detector device uses 
> a low power laser. Each device and app have their pros and cons. Me, 
> personally, I would rather have the backup device in case the iPhone gets 
> broken or stolen (which happens more than anyone realizes). Also, the 
> available bar code scanner app for the iPhone (red laser) isn't accessible 
> (it requires someone to see the view finder display to make sure the barcode 
> is centered). So, having the bar code reader (ID Mate) is far more useful.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
> 
>> Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no
>> longer an issue.
>> 
>> Joseph
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "eric oyen" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> 
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader).
>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my
>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra
>> devices on hand.
>> 
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just 
>> a
>> phone.
>> 
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
>>> why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
>>> upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>> 
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>> 
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay 

Re: Battery usage with Audible app.

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't think anyone expressed a concern that the BARD Mobile app would 
excessibley drain an iPhone battery. I think the point was that when you 
use multiple devices for various tasks then you will be spreading out 
your battery drain across multiple devices. This is just one example why 
someone might want to use a book reader for reading books, an MP3 player 
to listen to music and an iPhone to test and make phone calls. I don't 
think there's any concern that the BARD Mobile app or any book reading 
app in and of itself uses up a lot of battery juice.


On 09/13/2013 07:00 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:


Hi all who use audible .com,
There has been some concern about battery usage with the upcoming Bart app. I 
was curious, how does the audible app do with battery life?
I would think it may be comparable to the NLS app.





Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.



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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Richard Ring]

Having used an Android tablet and several i devices, I would have to say that 
Android accessibility is almost as good as it was in the iPhone 3GS. Still a 
ways to go in my opinion.


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> This may still be the case, not sure, but the number of blind android users 
> is growing fast, and that's a very good thing. The level of accessibility 
> that is provided is now on the same level, another good thing.
> Original message:
>> One thing that may have enfluenced the NLS is, there are probably more blind 
>> iOS users than android users.
> 
>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro
>> richr...@gmail.com 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Mike Arrigo > > wrote:
> 
> 
>> Hopefully the android version will not be far behind, I actually wish they 
>> would have released them both at the same time.
>> Original message:
> 
> 
>> I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the beta
>> is over and the app has been submitted.
> 
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Rumery
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> 
> 
>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I know
>> that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log time
>> for it.
> 
> 
> 
>> Scott Rumery
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton > > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
> 
> 
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Joseph FreeTech]

That is my exact point.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne gmail " 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


When I'm sleepy I don't care about efficiency.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

You can always convert those brf files to text and read them on your IOS
device. Depending on what you are reading, if you are sleepy, you're not
going to recall what you just read, so whether having to press a physical
button or tap/swipe, you are not using time and your cognitive attention
efficiently.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: "Arianna" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


Not to mention that, as far as I know, no app on the iPhone can make any
sense of brf files. I have a lot of those in my collection, and the
BookSense is the only thing that I know can play them. Well, the only thing
that I have, at any rate. Plus, having physical buttons is rather nice. When

I want to go back five seconds in a book, and I'm kind of sleepy, the last
thing I want to do is fiddle around with a touchscreen. That being said, I
will still get the app; but I'll keep my BookSense around, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
wrote:

> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like having
> a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the battery
> consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my Booksense, and by
> pressing just one button, start reading a book right where I left off. No
> need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher and bring up my BARD
> Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that it's a physical button,
> and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting a physical button while
> the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I know it's not that hard
> to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading again, but it is convenient to

> have a device dedicated to my book reading and being only one button away
> from reading.
>
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around. I
> can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a lanyard,
> so I can just hang it from my neck.
>
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the BARD

> Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my iPhone
> and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the BARD Mobile

> app.
>
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down

>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode
>> reader). all of these devices are specially designed for that one task.
>> Its been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you

>> want reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the

>> extra devices on hand.
>>
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just

>> a phone.
>>
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app,
>>> and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
>>> why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some
>>> may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
>>> upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>>
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>>
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played

>>> on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on

>>> my

RE: Battery usage with Audible app.

[Wayne gmail]

I mainly use it in waiting rooms and while waiting for a cab but I don't
find it to be a problem.  Just a few percent over half hour or so.  Maybe
not even that much.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery usage with Audible app.


Hi all who use audible .com, 
There has been some concern about battery usage with the upcoming Bart app.
I was curious, how does the audible app do with battery life? 
I would think it may be comparable to the NLS app. 





Chuck (mobile)
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RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Wayne gmail]

When I'm sleepy I don't care about efficiency.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

You can always convert those brf files to text and read them on your IOS
device. Depending on what you are reading, if you are sleepy, you're not
going to recall what you just read, so whether having to press a physical
button or tap/swipe, you are not using time and your cognitive attention
efficiently.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: "Arianna" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


Not to mention that, as far as I know, no app on the iPhone can make any 
sense of brf files. I have a lot of those in my collection, and the 
BookSense is the only thing that I know can play them. Well, the only thing 
that I have, at any rate. Plus, having physical buttons is rather nice. When

I want to go back five seconds in a book, and I'm kind of sleepy, the last 
thing I want to do is fiddle around with a touchscreen. That being said, I 
will still get the app; but I'll keep my BookSense around, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:

> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like having 
> a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the battery 
> consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my Booksense, and by 
> pressing just one button, start reading a book right where I left off. No 
> need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher and bring up my BARD 
> Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that it's a physical button, 
> and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting a physical button while 
> the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I know it's not that hard 
> to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading again, but it is convenient to

> have a device dedicated to my book reading and being only one button away 
> from reading.
>
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around. I 
> can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a lanyard, 
> so I can just hang it from my neck.
>
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the BARD

> Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my iPhone 
> and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the BARD Mobile

> app.
>
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down

>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode 
>> reader). all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. 
>> Its been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you

>> want reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the

>> extra devices on hand.
>>
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just

>> a phone.
>>
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, 
>>> and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
>>> why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some 
>>> may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
>>> upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>>
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>>
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played

>>> on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on

>>> my
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, S

RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Wayne gmail]

My wife and I used to joke that all it took to be a properly equipped blind
person was about $50,000.  Over the years that joke became less funny.  I'm
really glad that apps are acting as a force to reign in the cost a bit.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

Regarding limited incomes... Add up the amount of money spent on your
blindness related hardware and compare that to the cost of comparable IOS
apps. I'm sure you will find that the hardware devices for the blind will
costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars where the apps are a few dollars
here and there.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: "eric oyen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


yes, assuming one can afford such a device on a limited income. The other 
devices I have courtesy of the CCB (as a contract for the state of arizona 
vocational rehabilitation services).

I happen to be an iPhone user/owner myself and like that it does have all 
these apps available. However, some of them just don't work as well as 
discrete devices do. For instance, navigon has an interface that is more 
complicated than it needs to be, and the look-tell money reader requires a 
background source of light to be useful. The color detector app also needs 
ambient light to function whereas the stand alone light detector device uses

a low power laser. Each device and app have their pros and cons. Me, 
personally, I would rather have the backup device in case the iPhone gets 
broken or stolen (which happens more than anyone realizes). Also, the 
available bar code scanner app for the iPhone (red laser) isn't accessible 
(it requires someone to see the view finder display to make sure the barcode

is centered). So, having the bar code reader (ID Mate) is far more useful.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

> Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no
> longer an issue.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "eric oyen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
>
> there are advantages to using a separate device.
> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader).
> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my
> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra
> devices on hand.
>
> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just 
> a
> phone.
>
> Just something to keep in mind.
>
> -eric
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
>> why
>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
>> upgrading
>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rick Alfaro
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>
>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>> ---
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
>> on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
>> my
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>
>>
>>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
>>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very
>>> log
>>
>>> time for it.
>>>
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton 

RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Wayne gmail]

And the audio drain is even less if you use wired earphones instead of
Bluetooth.  I'm inclined to use IPhone audio books when out and waiting
because it means carrying fewer devices.  Around the house though the Stream
is better and cheaper to replace if there is a major mishap.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:01 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

Hi,

I partly disagree here.  It depends on the media being played, and how the
content is being delivered really.  for the sake of this topic will just
keep it to audio.  I've listened to hours of audiobooks via the audible app
and only lose a few percentage points on my battery life.  The same goes for
listening to music stored on the device.  Of course, streaming audio causes
the battery to drain faster.

I mean, I agree that listening to audio will drain your battery but,
compared with all the other things we do with our phones, this doesn't
really impact battery life as much.

As the saying goes though, to each their own.  I much rather have 1 less
device to carry although it means getting an hour a day less out of my phone
before charging.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:57 PM, eric oyen  wrote:

> there are advantages to using a separate device.
> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader).
all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my
experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra
devices on hand.
> 
> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a
phone.
> 
> Just something to keep in mind.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded 
>> from BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook 
>> app, and Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard 
>> to imagine why one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense 
>> but I'm sure some may still prefer using a separate device. This is 
>> my plan so I will be upgrading to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no
issues with space.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let 
>> you listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>> ---
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
>> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  
>> format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks
for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> 
>>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news 
>>> because I know that there are a lot of blind people who have been 
>>> waiting a very log
>> 
>>> time for it.
>>> 
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>> 
 The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
 
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RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Wayne gmail]

I wouldn't say no longer an issue.  In addition to my extended battery case,
I've got an ext4ernal battery.  If I use something like Navigon in my
travels and maybe Blind Square and Downcast, even an extended battery could
be drained in pretty short order.  Definitely a lot less of an issue though.
I'll keep my Stream and back up Stream too.  Hmmm, suppose I might have
insecurity issues?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

Definitely, that would be my first accessory, a case with built-in battery.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no
longer an issue.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: "eric oyen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


there are advantages to using a separate device.
Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my
experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra
devices on hand.

Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a
phone.

Just something to keep in mind.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded 
> from BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook 
> app, and Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard 
> to imagine why one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but 
> I'm sure some may still prefer using a separate device. This is my 
> plan so I will be upgrading to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no 
> issues with space.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let 
> you listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
> ---
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format 
> formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for 
> listening!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Rumery" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
>
>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because 
>> I know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a 
>> very log
>
>> time for it.
>>
>> Scott Rumery
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>
>>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
>>>
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a cool external battery

[Moop Curran]

Hi,
I came across this external battery while browsing on amazon. I wanted an 
external battery that wasn't a case because I have a good case anyway, and I 
wanted to be able to charge different kinds of ios devices, including my iPad. 
The good thing about this battery is that it won't only charge apple devices, 
it will charge any  device as long as it has a standard usb connector. I'll 
provide the link to the product below, it costs about $40, which is reasonable 
for this kind of product. It's 1 M.A., so it can fully charge the iphone 2 
and a half times. I hope this information is helpful to someone.
Link: 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009USAJCC/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Courtney  


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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Joseph FreeTech]

Regarding limited incomes... Add up the amount of money spent on your 
blindness related hardware and compare that to the cost of comparable IOS 
apps. I'm sure you will find that the hardware devices for the blind will 
costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars where the apps are a few dollars 
here and there.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "eric oyen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


yes, assuming one can afford such a device on a limited income. The other 
devices I have courtesy of the CCB (as a contract for the state of arizona 
vocational rehabilitation services).

I happen to be an iPhone user/owner myself and like that it does have all 
these apps available. However, some of them just don't work as well as 
discrete devices do. For instance, navigon has an interface that is more 
complicated than it needs to be, and the look-tell money reader requires a 
background source of light to be useful. The color detector app also needs 
ambient light to function whereas the stand alone light detector device uses 
a low power laser. Each device and app have their pros and cons. Me, 
personally, I would rather have the backup device in case the iPhone gets 
broken or stolen (which happens more than anyone realizes). Also, the 
available bar code scanner app for the iPhone (red laser) isn't accessible 
(it requires someone to see the view finder display to make sure the barcode 
is centered). So, having the bar code reader (ID Mate) is far more useful.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

> Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no
> longer an issue.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "eric oyen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
>
> there are advantages to using a separate device.
> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader).
> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my
> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra
> devices on hand.
>
> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just 
> a
> phone.
>
> Just something to keep in mind.
>
> -eric
>
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
>> why
>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
>> upgrading
>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rick Alfaro
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>
>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>> ---
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
>> on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
>> my
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>
>>
>>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
>>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very
>>> log
>>
>>> time for it.
>>>
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>>
 The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Joseph FreeTech]

You can always convert those brf files to text and read them on your IOS 
device. Depending on what you are reading, if you are sleepy, you're not 
going to recall what you just read, so whether having to press a physical 
button or tap/swipe, you are not using time and your cognitive attention 
efficiently.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


Not to mention that, as far as I know, no app on the iPhone can make any 
sense of brf files. I have a lot of those in my collection, and the 
BookSense is the only thing that I know can play them. Well, the only thing 
that I have, at any rate. Plus, having physical buttons is rather nice. When 
I want to go back five seconds in a book, and I'm kind of sleepy, the last 
thing I want to do is fiddle around with a touchscreen. That being said, I 
will still get the app; but I'll keep my BookSense around, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:

> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like having 
> a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the battery 
> consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my Booksense, and by 
> pressing just one button, start reading a book right where I left off. No 
> need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher and bring up my BARD 
> Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that it's a physical button, 
> and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting a physical button while 
> the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I know it's not that hard 
> to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading again, but it is convenient to 
> have a device dedicated to my book reading and being only one button away 
> from reading.
>
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around. I 
> can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a lanyard, 
> so I can just hang it from my neck.
>
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the BARD 
> Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my iPhone 
> and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the BARD Mobile 
> app.
>
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode 
>> reader). all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. 
>> Its been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you 
>> want reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the 
>> extra devices on hand.
>>
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just 
>> a phone.
>>
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, 
>>> and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
>>> why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some 
>>> may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
>>> upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>>
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>>
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
>>> on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
>>> my
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>>
 How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
 know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very 
 log
>>>
 time for it.

 Sc

Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Joseph FreeTech]

I have some of these discrete items you mentioned, and they are gathering 
dust somewhere in my room and office. My color identifier is not as accurate 
as I would like even though it has its own light source. My money counter 
also has a light source of its own, and I find it a chore to have to dig out 
and slide my money in to read. In short, though I have these items, my 
iPod's comparable apps are always my go to resource as they are faster and 
easier to use (with exception of color identifier as itthey all seem to be 
very inaccurate unless you can see). As is, I really dislike taking my cell 
and iPod wherever I go, but because I don't want another contract, I have to 
stick with what I've got until my new contract comes along, but my point is 
"why carry more than you need." With keys, wallet, phone, coins, etc, I 
don't need anymore items in my pockets, which is why my VRS now stays home.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


I still haven't found an easy way to put audio books on the IPhone
which are not Audible books. So without this, I still need my
BookSense.

On 9/13/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like
> having a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the
> battery consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my
> Booksense, and by pressing just one button, start reading a book right
> where I left off. No need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher
> and bring up my BARD Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that
> it's a physical button, and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting
> a physical button while the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I
> know it's not that hard to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading
> again, but it is convenient to have a device dedicated to my book
> reading and being only one button away from reading.
>
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around.
> I can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a
> lanyard, so I can just hang it from my neck.
>
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the
> BARD Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my
> iPhone and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the
> BARD Mobile app.
>
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode 
>> reader).
>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been 
>> my
>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the 
>> extra
>> devices on hand.
>>
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just
>> a phone.
>>
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app,
>>> and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
>>> why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some
>>> may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
>>> upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>>
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>>
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
>>> on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
>>> my
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>>
 How d

Battery usage with Audible app.

[Chuck Dean]

Hi all who use audible .com, 
There has been some concern about battery usage with the upcoming Bart app. I 
was curious, how does the audible app do with battery life? 
I would think it may be comparable to the NLS app. 





Chuck (mobile)
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RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Rick Alfaro]

That's a very good point. One can do it but but not as easy and as straight
forward as it should be.

I'm thinking about the possibility of using DownCast for mp3 audio books but
haven't tried it yet.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

I still haven't found an easy way to put audio books on the IPhone which are
not Audible books. So without this, I still need my BookSense.

On 9/13/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like 
> having a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about 
> the battery consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my 
> Booksense, and by pressing just one button, start reading a book right 
> where I left off. No need to unlock the device, jump to the app 
> switcher and bring up my BARD Mobile app to start reading again. The 
> fact that it's a physical button, and I can just pause/play my reading 
> by hitting a physical button while the Booksense is in my pocket, is 
> also a plus. I know it's not that hard to get the BARD Mobile app to 
> start reading again, but it is convenient to have a device dedicated 
> to my book reading and being only one button away from reading.
>
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around.
> I can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a 
> lanyard, so I can just hang it from my neck.
>
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the 
> BARD Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both 
> my iPhone and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on 
> the BARD Mobile app.
>
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks 
>> down battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other 
>> apps that have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and
barcode reader).
>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its 
>> been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you 
>> want reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have 
>> the extra devices on hand.
>>
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than 
>> just a phone.
>>
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded 
>>> from BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the 
>>> Nook app, and Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, 
>>> it's hard to imagine why one would need devices like the Stream or 
>>> BookSense but I'm sure some may still prefer using a separate 
>>> device. This is my plan so I will be upgrading to the 64gb version 
>>> of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let 
>>> you listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>>
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>>
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
>>> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  
>>> format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  
>>> Thanks for listening!
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>>
 How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news 
 because I know that there are a lot of blind people who have been 
 waiting a very log
>>>
 time for it.

 Scott Rumery
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:

> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
>
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RE: battery drainage found problem

[Ann Byrne]

the techy at the Apple store said battery life was longer if you 
locked the screen.

At 03:40 PM 9/13/2013, you wrote:

Hi,

I had a similar problem and couldn't solve it.  I called my provider and
they changed the channel I was using on the router claiming that probably I
was getting some interference from a recent installion close to me.  Never
had a problem since.

Ron & Danvers


Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: battery drainage found problem

Hi May,

Mine has been draining more quickly lately because it isn't staying
connected to my wireless.  I don't know if the signal is not as strong from
my router, or what is new.  I am hoping that with the new software, whatever
problem is causing this will be fixed.  I think that maybe constantly
connecting and disconnecting is draining the battery.

You might try just checking off and on to see if your WIFI is connected.  If
you see 3G or LTE, you'll know you're not connected to WIFI.

Unfortunately, I don't know of a solution.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of May and Noah
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: battery drainage found problem

Good day everyone.

First off thanks to everyone that sent in suggestions about how to fix my
battery drainage issue. Well I found the problem but now I'm stumped again
and could use some suggestions on how this possibly could be fixed.

Here is what I discovered today since I have been keeping an eye on
what's up with my phone and the battery. After a nice dead phone and then a
full charge I unplugged the phone today and headed out at 7:20 yesterday
morning and by 9:30, 2 hours later it was still sitting at 99%. Lets say
maybe around noon I dropped to 95%. That's totally awesome and what I'm use
to my phone being like. Ok, so, get back home and we our connected back to
our wifi and here's where we discovered the problem. When I am connected to
wifi it's killing my battery. It's dropping maybe 5 to 10% every few
minutes.

So we double checked to see if in actually was the wifi so I now have wifi
off and when I did the battery was sitting at 78% that was maybe around
midnight. It is now 4 in the morning and my battery is sitting at 76%. So
I'm pretty sure now that it is wifi that is killing my battery all of a
sudden.

Does anyone have any ideas on how or why this might be?

keep in mind that this is probably the same issue on the phone I had until
recent. Two different phones, two different carriers.at a lost now.
May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Rick Alfaro]

Definitely, that would be my first accessory, a case with built-in battery.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no
longer an issue.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: "eric oyen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


there are advantages to using a separate device.
Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
devices on hand.

Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a 
phone.

Just something to keep in mind.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
> why
> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
> upgrading
> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
> ---
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
> on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
> my
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Rumery" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
>
>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very 
>> log
>
>> time for it.
>>
>> Scott Rumery
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>
>>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
>>>
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FW: battery drainage found problem

[Ed Barnes]

Hi May, one question, if you go into settings, wireless on your iPhone where
you can connect or discofnnect from your wireless LAN, on the screen where
you choose a network, what signal strength is your iPhone reporting for your
network, is it possible that the signal is at a very low percentage so
maintaining the connection throughout your home is taxing the battery? Just
a thought.


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Of May and Noah
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: battery drainage found problem

Good day everyone.

First off thanks to everyone that sent in suggestions about how to fix my
battery drainage issue. Well I found the problem but now I'm stumped again
and could use some suggestions on how this possibly could be fixed.

Here is what I discovered today since I have been keeping an eye on
what's up with my phone and the battery. After a nice dead phone and then a
full charge I unplugged the phone today and headed out at 7:20 yesterday
morning and by 9:30, 2 hours later it was still sitting at 99%. Lets say
maybe around noon I dropped to 95%. That's totally awesome and what I'm use
to my phone being like. Ok, so, get back home and we our connected back to
our wifi and here's where we discovered the problem. When I am connected to
wifi it's killing my battery. It's dropping maybe 5 to 10% every few
minutes.

So we double checked to see if in actually was the wifi so I now have wifi
off and when I did the battery was sitting at 78% that was maybe around
midnight. It is now 4 in the morning and my battery is sitting at 76%. So
I'm pretty sure now that it is wifi that is killing my battery all of a
sudden.

Does anyone have any ideas on how or why this might be?

keep in mind that this is probably the same issue on the phone I had until
recent. Two different phones, two different carriers.at a lost now.
May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Joe]

Nah, Android same access as iOS? I've got a Nexus 7, and while tons better
than what things used to be, I'd not call it equal. Getting there for sure,
but not a done deal today.

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Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

This may still be the case, not sure, but the number of blind android users
is growing fast, and that's a very good thing. The level of accessibility
that is provided is now on the same level, another good thing.
Original message:
> One thing that may have enfluenced the NLS is, there are probably more 
> blind iOS users than android users.

> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
> Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com 
> 

> On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Mike Arrigo  > wrote:


> Hopefully the android version will not be far behind, I actually wish 
> they would have released them both at the same time.
> Original message:


> I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the 
> beta is over and the app has been submitted.



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> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Scott Rumery
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval



> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because 
> I know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a 
> very log time for it.



> Scott Rumery
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  > wrote:



> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.



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RE: playing music on my iPhone from my network

[Rick Alfaro]

I wish I could give you a step by step but it's one of those programs where
clicking on some of the links appear to do nothing but if you do a screen
redraw and review the screen carefully, you will find other links. Sometimes
you even have to route the mouse cursor to one of the choices and left click
even though it doesn't show up as any type of link or control. Sort of
similar to the kind of stuff you have to do on the Google Voice web pages.

I'm running WindowEyes 8.3 so your milage may vary with other screen readers
meaning your experience may be better or worse.  HTH


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: playing music on my iPhone from my network

can u give us any tips for using the app with the screen reader? on setting
up the folders? this is where I get stuck.

On 9/13/2013 12:31 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I had great success with Tonido, the set of desktop and IOS apps that 
> someone had recommended on this list.
>
> I'm sure you may know that the Apple TV does not support DLNA and I 
> was looking for a solution for being able to access all of my media 
> files on my NAS without having to add them through iTunes. Tonido did the
trick for me.
> After installing the desktop app for Windows and going through the 
> setup, and downloading the IOS app, I'm now able to access my NAS and 
> play to my Apple TV via AirPlay. Works great.
>
> The desktop program is kind of weird with a screen reader but 
> definitely usable with some patience and a good knowledge of your 
> screen reader. You need to use the desktop app to setup your Tonido 
> account and specify which folders you want to share. Once that's done, 
> you don't have to mess with it any more.
>
> Just thought I would update the list for anyone wanting to try Tonido.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:35 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Re: playing music on my iPhone from my network
>
> Hi,
>
> It sure will.  :).  Open iTunes on your PC, enable home sharing, and 
> follow the same steps I stated previously on your IOS device.
>
> hth
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>
> On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:
>
>> Ricardo,
>> Do you know if this procedure will work on iTunes on the PC? I rather 
>> think not, but am checking just in case.
>> Thanks.
>> Terrie
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:31 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Re: playing music on my iPhone from my network
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is pretty straight forward.  Just turn on iTunes homesharing on 
>> your Mac in iTunes and on your IOS device in settings/ music.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I wish to use my iTunes library on my Mac.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Max.
>>>
>>> On 13/09/2013, at 2:11 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
 Yes, it is.

 Where do you want to get your music from?


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

 On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hi,
> is it possible to play music on my iPhone by connecting to my network?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Chuck Dean]

All true, but if I'm off someplace, nowhere near my computer, the app is there 
on my phone if I Need it. If I don't need the  space, there's no reason to take 
it off, in my humble opinion.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Donna  wrote:

> Chuck
> 
> Why keep apps on your device that aren't being used and are taking up space, 
> whether one needs to free up space or not. Once an app is downloaded, free or 
> paid, to your device it is yours. Apple can not charge you for a free app 
> that you have uninstalled and want to reinstall. And they can not charge 
> again for an app that you have already paid for. Reinstalling a deleted app 
> is simple. 
> 
> Donna
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
>> Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a folder 
>> I call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very much. You 
>> never know, you might want it  someday.
>> 
>> Chuck (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Tracy,
>>> 
>>> Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get the 
>>> StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
 :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps was 
 a sweeping subject for the list of apps.
 
 Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty much 
 replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products in my 
 hand, I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've used it to 
 identify pics on my device.
 
 I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't use 
 them enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for reading 
 mail or longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've taken a 
 screen shot of an online receipt and have it read it to me.
 
 I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner, or 
 SayText.
 
 When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time 
 having it recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool app 
 with impressive technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)
 
 Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store history 
 and remind myself which ones I paid for.
 
 Traci
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I partly disagree here.  It depends on the media being played, and how the 
content is being delivered really.  for the sake of this topic will just keep 
it to audio.  I’ve listened to hours of audiobooks via the audible app and only 
lose a few percentage points on my battery life.  The same goes for listening 
to music stored on the device.  Of course, streaming audio causes the battery 
to drain faster.

I mean, I agree that listening to audio will drain your battery but, compared 
with all the other things we do with our phones, this doesn’t really impact 
battery life as much.

As the saying goes though, to each their own.  I much rather have 1 less device 
to carry although it means getting an hour a day less out of my phone before 
charging.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:57 PM, eric oyen  wrote:

> there are advantages to using a separate device.
> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that have 
> discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). all of 
> these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
> devices on hand.
> 
> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one device, 
> but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a phone.
> 
> Just something to keep in mind.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine why
>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be upgrading
>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>> ---
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> 
>>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I 
>>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log
>> 
>>> time for it.
>>> 
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>> 
 The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
 
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Walking directions with Apple maps

[rhs]

Hi,

 

While I don't really understand the app, I am able to get driving directions
using Siri and the maps app that comes on the Iphone 4s.  It works nicely,
announcing where to turn with multiple warnings, etc..  

 

Today I tried to use this app to give me walking directions.  It came up
with a route but didn't announce turns when I came to them.  Is that to be
expected or is there something different I need to do?

 

Thanks

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Alan Paganelli]

I suspect I'll do the same thing.  I have a Victor reader Stream 1 and when 
it dies I'll see what's available.  I do keep a GPS app on my iPhone even 
though I own 3 GPS systems for the blind.  On the other hand, my iPhone is 
always in my pocket and should I need to find my way back home again at 
least I'm covered and that's a comforting thought for anybody.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


Not to mention that, as far as I know, no app on the iPhone can make any 
sense of brf files. I have a lot of those in my collection, and the 
BookSense is the only thing that I know can play them. Well, the only thing 
that I have, at any rate. Plus, having physical buttons is rather nice. When 
I want to go back five seconds in a book, and I'm kind of sleepy, the last 
thing I want to do is fiddle around with a touchscreen. That being said, I 
will still get the app; but I'll keep my BookSense around, too.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like having 
a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the battery 
consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my Booksense, and by 
pressing just one button, start reading a book right where I left off. No 
need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher and bring up my BARD 
Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that it's a physical button, 
and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting a physical button while 
the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I know it's not that hard 
to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading again, but it is convenient to 
have a device dedicated to my book reading and being only one button away 
from reading.


I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around. I 
can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a lanyard, 
so I can just hang it from my neck.


Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the BARD 
Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my iPhone 
and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the BARD Mobile 
app.


On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:

there are advantages to using a separate device.
Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode 
reader). all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. 
Its been my experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you 
want reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the 
extra devices on hand.


Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just 
a phone.


Just something to keep in mind.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:


Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, 
and
Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
why
one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some 
may
still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
upgrading

to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Rumery" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
Sub

Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Christopher Chaltain]

also, reinstalling an app if you find out later you want to start using 
it, is pretty quick and easy. Just bring it up in the purchased apps 
list in the App Store and double tab on the install button.


On 09/13/2013 04:37 PM, Donna wrote:

Chuck

Why keep apps on your device that aren't being used and are taking up space, 
whether one needs to free up space or not. Once an app is downloaded, free or 
paid, to your device it is yours. Apple can not charge you for a free app that 
you have uninstalled and want to reinstall. And they can not charge again for 
an app that you have already paid for. Reinstalling a deleted app is simple.

Donna

On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:


Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a folder I 
call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very much. You never 
know, you might want it  someday.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:


Hello Tracy,

Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get the 
StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.

Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:


:) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps was a 
sweeping subject for the list of apps.

Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty much 
replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products in my hand, 
I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've used it to identify 
pics on my device.

I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't use them 
enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for reading mail or 
longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've taken a screen shot of an 
online receipt and have it read it to me.

I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner, or 
SayText.

When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time having it 
recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool app with impressive 
technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)

Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store history and 
remind myself which ones I paid for.

Traci


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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Arianna]

Not to mention that, as far as I know, no app on the iPhone can make any sense 
of brf files. I have a lot of those in my collection, and the BookSense is the 
only thing that I know can play them. Well, the only thing that I have, at any 
rate. Plus, having physical buttons is rather nice. When I want to go back five 
seconds in a book, and I'm kind of sleepy, the last thing I want to do is 
fiddle around with a touchscreen. That being said, I will still get the app; 
but I'll keep my BookSense around, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like having a 
> separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the battery 
> consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my Booksense, and by 
> pressing just one button, start reading a book right where I left off. No 
> need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher and bring up my BARD 
> Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that it's a physical button, and 
> I can just pause/play my reading by hitting a physical button while the 
> Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I know it's not that hard to get 
> the BARD Mobile app to start reading again, but it is convenient to have a 
> device dedicated to my book reading and being only one button away from 
> reading.
> 
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around. I can 
> operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a lanyard, so I can 
> just hang it from my neck.
> 
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the BARD 
> Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my iPhone and 
> my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the BARD Mobile app.
> 
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
>> devices on hand.
>> 
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a 
>> phone.
>> 
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>> 
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>> 
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>> 
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>> 
>>> 
 How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
 know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log
>>> 
 time for it.
 
 Scott Rumery
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
 
> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Traci Duncan]

I've only done it a couple times, it gives you a brief description.  Usually 
enough to jog my memory of what the pic is.  Give it a try, it's pretty cool.

And funny enough, I'm not too worried about space, but why have digital 
clutter.  ;)  I do only have the 16gb iPhone.

Thank you to the person that suggested 2 specific apps to keep.  I think for 
now, I'll leave them in iTunes, but take some of them off my iPhone.

Traci

On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:

> Actually, neither of these apps are intended to be used for OCR: optical 
> character recognition.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Isaac Hebert" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps
> 
> 
> Tap Tap is a great app for OCR. Vizwiz is also a great app for OCR.
> The red of the apps you mentioned you can remove.
> 
> On 9/13/13, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:
>> Hi Tracy,
>> 
>> Since each of these apps can be used for different purposes, how about you
>> specify what it is you intend to do with the apps you intend to keep.
>> .
>> 
>> Joseph
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Traci Duncan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:43 AM
>> Subject: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Inside my OCR folder, I have 11 apps.  In an effort to clean up my iPhone 
>> a
>> 
>> bit, could the group offer up their summery on the following apps.
>> 
>> I’ll first list the 2 I use more frequently.
>> Prizmo
>> TapTapSee
>> 
>> I occasionally use:
>> RedLaser
>> VizWiz
>> Reviews, (use to be Consmer.)
>> 
>> Here are the apps I’ve used very little, so don’t really know if they are
>> worth keeping.
>> 
>> DocScanner
>> ImageToText
>> Color ID
>> SayText
>> Recognizer, (regret this app big time)
>> Perfect OCR
>> 
>> 
>> So, my thought was, there are some of you that probably have far more
>> useable experience with these apps, and you may be able to advice me on 
>> keep
>> 
>> or discard.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help, :)
>> Traci
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Re: problem using nfl mobile

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello Les,

The NFL Mobile app has a premium subscription that you can purchase for $5 per 
month.  You are correct, this is a video subscription, not an audio one.
Even though I think that is a really good deal for $5 per month, it does me no 
good sense I can not see the screen.
Plus, the audio is free as long as you are a Verizon customer.

HTH,

Chris Chaffin


From: Les Kriegler 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Cc: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: problem using nfl mobile

This is very helpful. I followed your instructions and actually got a video to 
play when I went to the game Center. I don't expect to see any life e.g. at, as 
the games are not until Sunday. What is interesting is that I contacted 
Verizon, and they would've set me up with a service at five dollars a month. 
They said it was not audio pass, it sounds like they were going to set me up to 
watch the games. I'm not interested in that. So perhaps your instructions will 
finally be the ticket to give me the live broadcast on Sunday.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:15 PM, "Chris Chaffin"  wrote:


  Hello,

  I have found 2 ways of listening to games in the app.

  First way to listen to a game:

  * double tap on the menu button in the top left corner.
  * right flick until you get to teams, and Double tap.
  * Then right flick to the team you want to listen too, and double tap.
  * Then right flick until you come to game center, and double tap.
  * Then there is a listen to audio live button near the bottom of the screen, 
so you might want to go to the bottom of the screen, and left flick up until 
you get to it, then double tap.
  * Most of the time, it then starts playing.
  * But all of the controls are then at the top of the screen.  So then go to 
the top left, and right flick, and you will find a play button, stop button, a 
source button, and even a volume control.

  The source button is where you control which team feed you listen too.
  I think the default is the home team, but you can change it to the away team 
if you like.
  Double tap the source button, then right flick until you get to away and 
double tap.


  The second way I found to listen to games:

  * Double tap the menu button in the upper left of the screen.
  * Right flick and double tap schedule.
  * I just touch the center of the screen, and it normally puts me in a list of 
games for that week.  You can right and left flick until you find the game you 
want.  It also has the time each game starts.
  * So after you find the game you want, just double tap it.
  * Now you will need to find that listen audio live button near the bottom as 
mentioned above and double tap it.
  * As stated above, it normally automatically starts playing at this time for 
me, but as mentioned above, the controls are at the top of the screen.  Just go 
to the upper left and right flick.

  Again, the source button is where you change the team feed you want to listen 
too.

  I hope this has been helpful.

  Chris Chaffin

  From: john riehl 
  Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:27 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: problem using nfl mobile

  Iam new to the list. I downloaded NFL Mobile. I’m a Verizon customer, not an 
NFL pass owner. After going through the sign-in process I got into the app but 
had trouble finding the games. Many of the buttons didn’t seem to be labeled. 
Can someone give me a tip on how to access the actual games using NFL Mobile?  
Thanks. 

  PS There were several apps; I chose the first one that came up on the list, 
which says it was produced by the NFL. 

  Thanks. 

  John riehl

   

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[eric oyen]

yes, assuming one can afford such a device on a limited income. The other 
devices I have courtesy of the CCB (as a contract for the state of arizona 
vocational rehabilitation services).

I happen to be an iPhone user/owner myself and like that it does have all these 
apps available. However, some of them just don't work as well as discrete 
devices do. For instance, navigon has an interface that is more complicated 
than it needs to be, and the look-tell money reader requires a background 
source of light to be useful. The color detector app also needs ambient light 
to function whereas the stand alone light detector device uses a low power 
laser. Each device and app have their pros and cons. Me, personally, I would 
rather have the backup device in case the iPhone gets broken or stolen (which 
happens more than anyone realizes). Also, the available bar code scanner app 
for the iPhone (red laser) isn't accessible (it requires someone to see the 
view finder display to make sure the barcode is centered). So, having the bar 
code reader (ID Mate) is far more useful.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

> Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no 
> longer an issue.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "eric oyen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> 
> there are advantages to using a separate device.
> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
> devices on hand.
> 
> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a 
> phone.
> 
> Just something to keep in mind.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
>> why
>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
>> upgrading
>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>> ---
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
>> on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
>> my
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>> 
>> 
>>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
>>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very 
>>> log
>> 
>>> time for it.
>>> 
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>> 
 The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
 
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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Donna]

Chuck

Why keep apps on your device that aren't being used and are taking up space, 
whether one needs to free up space or not. Once an app is downloaded, free or 
paid, to your device it is yours. Apple can not charge you for a free app that 
you have uninstalled and want to reinstall. And they can not charge again for 
an app that you have already paid for. Reinstalling a deleted app is simple. 

Donna

On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

> Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a folder 
> I call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very much. You 
> never know, you might want it  someday.
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Tracy,
>> 
>> Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get the 
>> StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>>> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps was a 
>>> sweeping subject for the list of apps.
>>> 
>>> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty much 
>>> replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products in my 
>>> hand, I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've used it to 
>>> identify pics on my device.
>>> 
>>> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't use 
>>> them enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for reading 
>>> mail or longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've taken a 
>>> screen shot of an online receipt and have it read it to me.
>>> 
>>> I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner, or 
>>> SayText.
>>> 
>>> When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time 
>>> having it recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool app 
>>> with impressive technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)
>>> 
>>> Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store history 
>>> and remind myself which ones I paid for.
>>> 
>>> Traci
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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Christopher Chaltain]

It's not a big deal either, but deleting apps you aren't using does make 
an update all go faster.


On 09/13/2013 04:04 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:

Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a folder I 
call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very much. You never 
know, you might want it  someday.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:


Hello Tracy,

Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get the 
StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.

Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:


:) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps was a 
sweeping subject for the list of apps.

Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty much 
replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products in my hand, 
I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've used it to identify 
pics on my device.

I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't use them 
enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for reading mail or 
longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've taken a screen shot of an 
online receipt and have it read it to me.

I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner, or 
SayText.

When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time having it 
recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool app with impressive 
technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)

Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store history and 
remind myself which ones I paid for.

Traci


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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Timothy Emmons]

How does it identify pics on your device? I have tap tap see so was just 
curious. Thanks. 
On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Traci Duncan wrote:

> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps was a 
> sweeping subject for the list of apps.
> 
> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty much 
> replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products in my hand, 
> I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've used it to identify 
> pics on my device.
> 
> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't use them 
> enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for reading mail or 
> longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've taken a screen shot of 
> an online receipt and have it read it to me.
> 
> I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner, or 
> SayText.
> 
> When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time having 
> it recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool app with 
> impressive technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)
> 
> Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store history and 
> remind myself which ones I paid for.
> 
> Traci
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Joseph FreeTech  
> wrote:
> 
>> Actually, neither of these apps are intended to be used for OCR: optical 
>> character recognition.
>> 
>> Joseph
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Isaac Hebert" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps
>> 
>> 
>> Tap Tap is a great app for OCR. Vizwiz is also a great app for OCR.
>> The red of the apps you mentioned you can remove.
>> 
>> On 9/13/13, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> 
>>> Since each of these apps can be used for different purposes, how about you
>>> specify what it is you intend to do with the apps you intend to keep.
>>> .
>>> 
>>> Joseph
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Traci Duncan" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:43 AM
>>> Subject: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Inside my OCR folder, I have 11 apps.  In an effort to clean up my iPhone 
>>> a
>>> 
>>> bit, could the group offer up their summery on the following apps.
>>> 
>>> I’ll first list the 2 I use more frequently.
>>> Prizmo
>>> TapTapSee
>>> 
>>> I occasionally use:
>>> RedLaser
>>> VizWiz
>>> Reviews, (use to be Consmer.)
>>> 
>>> Here are the apps I’ve used very little, so don’t really know if they are
>>> worth keeping.
>>> 
>>> DocScanner
>>> ImageToText
>>> Color ID
>>> SayText
>>> Recognizer, (regret this app big time)
>>> Perfect OCR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, my thought was, there are some of you that probably have far more
>>> useable experience with these apps, and you may be able to advice me on 
>>> keep
>>> 
>>> or discard.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help, :)
>>> Traci
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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Chuck Dean]

Unless you are desperate for the space, why delete any apps? I made a folder I 
call junk drawer, which I put apps and that I don't use very much. You never 
know, you might want it  someday.

Chuck (mobile)
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On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Tracy,
> 
> Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get the 
> StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
>> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps was a 
>> sweeping subject for the list of apps.
>> 
>> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty much 
>> replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products in my 
>> hand, I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've used it to 
>> identify pics on my device.
>> 
>> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't use 
>> them enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for reading 
>> mail or longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've taken a screen 
>> shot of an online receipt and have it read it to me.
>> 
>> I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner, or 
>> SayText.
>> 
>> When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time having 
>> it recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool app with 
>> impressive technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)
>> 
>> Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store history and 
>> remind myself which ones I paid for.
>> 
>> Traci
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Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

[Alan Paganelli]

I'm right handed but I use a Bluetooth ear peace on my left side because 
that's the side I used for my dog guide.  And, it left my right hand free. 
Even when using a cane in my right hand I still use the ear peace in my left 
ear.  So I don't use call waiting on my iPhone either.  I turned it off.  If 
I'm talking on the phone, that means I'm busy! call back later.  So I rarely 
use the home button which was why I was curious.  Lastly, thanks to 
everybody for being very helpful and not laughing at me to much. 

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- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Alfaro" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: Features of the 5S and 5C


Same here, I almost always use my index finger for the home button. The 
only

exception to that is if I have need to use the phone one-handed in which
case I use my left thumb.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

The funny thing is, I always hold my iPhone in my left hand as I'm right
handed and so I use my iPhone with my right hand.  I never hit the home 
key
with my thumb.  I figure, they don't call it a thumb scanner, they call it 
a

finger print scanner.   So my thanks to Ricardo for my morning
chuckle.
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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From: "Victor Gouveia" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C



Hi Ricardo,

True, most people don't use their thumbs for Braille reading, but then
there's that silly thing called life that keeps getting in the way of
one's perfectly coiffed digits.

Remember what sets us apart from other animals is the fact that we do 
have



opposable thumbs, hence we tend to use our thumbs more than any other
finger in our repertoire.

In addition, with us being blind, we use our hands more than most people,
so callouses are pretty much a sure thing for us, regardless of which
digit we use to read Braille.

Of course, you do realize that the "reading Braille" was just an example
of the various things we do with our fingers don't you?

I mean, I wasn't being that obtuse, was I?  Smiles.


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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Tracy,

Both Prizmo and Perfect OCR are good apps and worth keeping. If you get the 
StandScan Pro, you'll get amazing results with Prizmo.

Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Sep 2013, at 22:39, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> :) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps was a 
> sweeping subject for the list of apps.
> 
> Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty much 
> replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products in my hand, 
> I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've used it to identify 
> pics on my device.
> 
> I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't use them 
> enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for reading mail or 
> longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've taken a screen shot of 
> an online receipt and have it read it to me.
> 
> I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner, or 
> SayText.
> 
> When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time having 
> it recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool app with 
> impressive technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)
> 
> Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store history and 
> remind myself which ones I paid for.
> 
> Traci

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Joseph FreeTech]

Unless one uses an extended battery and this issue of battery life is no 
longer an issue.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "eric oyen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


there are advantages to using a separate device.
Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
devices on hand.

Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a 
phone.

Just something to keep in mind.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine 
> why
> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be 
> upgrading
> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
> ---
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
> on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
> my
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Rumery" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
>
>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very 
>> log
>
>> time for it.
>>
>> Scott Rumery
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>
>>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
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RE: Features of the 5S and 5C

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

They have already said that you will be able to use multiple finger prints
if a few people need to use the phone.  In that case, you should be able to
use two or three of your own fingers.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donnie Harris
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

Sieghard,
I wonder if there is going to be a way to rescan your finger print in case
of a finger injury, like you just mentioned here.
I do mechanic work all of the time and always have cuts, scrapes etc...
Maybe they will allow a second finger to be scanned just in case of an
injury like this, it could kind of like the imfamous security question on a
secured website.
Just wondering, hopfully they will give some thought to an accident like
this.
I realize there would have to be a password involved or else a thief could
rescan it for their finger print.
Just my 2 cents!
Donnie Harris.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: Features of the 5S and 5C


: Hi Victor,
:
: According to Apple the fingerprint sensor on the iPhone takes a high
: resolution image of the sub epidermal layer of the skin and I think this
may
: avoid some of the issues you are worried about although a cut or scarring
: may effect it. Here is some information I just found:
:
: The most interesting new feature found in the iPhone 5s is undoubtably its
: Touch ID system that scans of users' fingerprints on the device and lets
: them use the fingerprint data to unlock their devices and make purchases
: through the iTunes Store. The Wall Street Journal reports that an unnamed
: Apple spokesperson has provided some important new details about how Touch
: ID will work and how it will keep users' privacy safe.
:
: First, Apple says that it isn't storing full scans of users' fingerprints
on
: the device and is only storing "fingerprint data" that stays encrypted on
: the iPhone 5s processor. Because this data is fragmented pieces of
: information about users' fingerprints rather than full images, Apple says
: that hackers won't be able to reverse engineer the users' original scans
if
: they crack the chip.
:
: Those aren't the only security features Apple has built into Touch ID, of
: course. The company also tells users that they need to create a passcode
: before scanning their fingerprints that they'll need to use when they
reboot
: their phone or if their phone has stayed unlocked for more than two days. 
In
: other words, using your fingerprint alone won't be enough to unlock your
: iPhone in all circumstances. Additionally, Apple has put up a firewall
: between Touch ID and third-part apps so there's no way for a rogue
: application to steal your fingerprint data.
:
: Finally, Apple cautions users that they shouldn't expect Touch ID to work
: perfectly all the time. In particular Apple's engineers found that the
: fingerprint scanner doesn't respond well when users' hands are wet with
: sweat or other liquids. The sensor also has trouble in instances where
: users' fingers have been scarred or disfigured in some way.
:
:
: Regards,
: Sieghard
:
: -Original Message-
: From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
: Of Victor Gouveia
: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:55 AM
: To: viphone@googlegroups.com
: Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C
:
: The only problem I see with a fingerprint scanner is that, while
: fingerprints don't change, the surface of fingers do, especially we, the
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Chuck Dean]

I had not used the MLS books in quite a while, but when I heard that the Bard 
app was going to be released I ordered up a machine to familiarize myself with 
the system. I was amazed at how nice the machine felt. Very solid big buttons 
etc. etc., it was kind of comforting to have a  talking book machine in my hand 
again.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like having a 
> separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the battery 
> consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my Booksense, and by 
> pressing just one button, start reading a book right where I left off. No 
> need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher and bring up my BARD 
> Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that it's a physical button, and 
> I can just pause/play my reading by hitting a physical button while the 
> Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I know it's not that hard to get 
> the BARD Mobile app to start reading again, but it is convenient to have a 
> device dedicated to my book reading and being only one button away from 
> reading.
> 
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around. I can 
> operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a lanyard, so I can 
> just hang it from my neck.
> 
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the BARD 
> Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my iPhone and 
> my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the BARD Mobile app.
> 
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that 
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). 
>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my 
>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want 
>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra 
>> devices on hand.
>> 
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one 
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a 
>> phone.
>> 
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>> 
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>> 
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>> 
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>> 
>>> 
 How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
 know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log
>>> 
 time for it.
 
 Scott Rumery
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
 
> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
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RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Bill Holton]

Do you have Dropbox?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

I still haven't found an easy way to put audio books on the IPhone
which are not Audible books. So without this, I still need my
BookSense.

On 9/13/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like
> having a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the
> battery consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my
> Booksense, and by pressing just one button, start reading a book right
> where I left off. No need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher
> and bring up my BARD Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that
> it's a physical button, and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting
> a physical button while the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I
> know it's not that hard to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading
> again, but it is convenient to have a device dedicated to my book
> reading and being only one button away from reading.
>
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around.
> I can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a
> lanyard, so I can just hang it from my neck.
>
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the
> BARD Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my
> iPhone and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the
> BARD Mobile app.
>
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode
reader).
>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been
my
>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the
extra
>> devices on hand.
>>
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just
>> a phone.
>>
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app,
>>> and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
>>> why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some
>>> may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
>>> upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>>
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>>
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
>>> on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
>>> my
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>>
 How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
 know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very
 log
>>>
 time for it.

 Scott Rumery
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:

> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
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RE: battery drainage found problem

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

I had a similar problem and couldn't solve it.  I called my provider and
they changed the channel I was using on the router claiming that probably I
was getting some interference from a recent installion close to me.  Never
had a problem since.

Ron & Danvers


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Getting back up is LIVING...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: battery drainage found problem

Hi May,

Mine has been draining more quickly lately because it isn't staying
connected to my wireless.  I don't know if the signal is not as strong from
my router, or what is new.  I am hoping that with the new software, whatever
problem is causing this will be fixed.  I think that maybe constantly
connecting and disconnecting is draining the battery.  

You might try just checking off and on to see if your WIFI is connected.  If
you see 3G or LTE, you'll know you're not connected to WIFI.

Unfortunately, I don't know of a solution.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of May and Noah
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: battery drainage found problem

Good day everyone.

First off thanks to everyone that sent in suggestions about how to fix my
battery drainage issue. Well I found the problem but now I'm stumped again
and could use some suggestions on how this possibly could be fixed.

Here is what I discovered today since I have been keeping an eye on
what's up with my phone and the battery. After a nice dead phone and then a
full charge I unplugged the phone today and headed out at 7:20 yesterday
morning and by 9:30, 2 hours later it was still sitting at 99%. Lets say
maybe around noon I dropped to 95%. That's totally awesome and what I'm use
to my phone being like. Ok, so, get back home and we our connected back to
our wifi and here's where we discovered the problem. When I am connected to
wifi it's killing my battery. It's dropping maybe 5 to 10% every few
minutes.

So we double checked to see if in actually was the wifi so I now have wifi
off and when I did the battery was sitting at 78% that was maybe around
midnight. It is now 4 in the morning and my battery is sitting at 76%. So
I'm pretty sure now that it is wifi that is killing my battery all of a
sudden.

Does anyone have any ideas on how or why this might be?

keep in mind that this is probably the same issue on the phone I had until
recent. Two different phones, two different carriers.at a lost now.
May and Prince Noah
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Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps

[Traci Duncan]

:) thank you for the replies so far.  I figured OCR & recognizer apps was a 
sweeping subject for the list of apps.

Let' see, I absolutely love tapTapSee.  It is the app that has pretty much 
replaced vizWiz for me.  I have used it to read names of products in my hand, 
I've used it to read something on the tv screen, and I've used it to identify 
pics on my device.

I think it is mostly the OCR apps that have me overwhelmed.  I don't use them 
enough to know which work really well.  I've used Prizmo for reading mail or 
longer portions of text.  I've also used it when I've taken a screen shot of an 
online receipt and have it read it to me.

I'm just not familiar enough with Perfect OCR, ImageToText, DocScanner, or 
SayText.

When I first got Recognizer, I gave it a whirl, but I had a hard time having it 
recognize similar items of the same type.  It's a very cool app with impressive 
technology, but lol, guess not for me.  :)

Hopefully that answer some questions.  I should look in my store history and 
remind myself which ones I paid for.

Traci
On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:

> Actually, neither of these apps are intended to be used for OCR: optical 
> character recognition.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Isaac Hebert" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps
> 
> 
> Tap Tap is a great app for OCR. Vizwiz is also a great app for OCR.
> The red of the apps you mentioned you can remove.
> 
> On 9/13/13, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:
>> Hi Tracy,
>> 
>> Since each of these apps can be used for different purposes, how about you
>> specify what it is you intend to do with the apps you intend to keep.
>> .
>> 
>> Joseph
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Traci Duncan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:43 AM
>> Subject: Listing OCR & Recognizer apps
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Inside my OCR folder, I have 11 apps.  In an effort to clean up my iPhone 
>> a
>> 
>> bit, could the group offer up their summery on the following apps.
>> 
>> I’ll first list the 2 I use more frequently.
>> Prizmo
>> TapTapSee
>> 
>> I occasionally use:
>> RedLaser
>> VizWiz
>> Reviews, (use to be Consmer.)
>> 
>> Here are the apps I’ve used very little, so don’t really know if they are
>> worth keeping.
>> 
>> DocScanner
>> ImageToText
>> Color ID
>> SayText
>> Recognizer, (regret this app big time)
>> Perfect OCR
>> 
>> 
>> So, my thought was, there are some of you that probably have far more
>> useable experience with these apps, and you may be able to advice me on 
>> keep
>> 
>> or discard.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help, :)
>> Traci
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I still haven't found an easy way to put audio books on the IPhone
which are not Audible books. So without this, I still need my
BookSense.

On 9/13/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like
> having a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the
> battery consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my
> Booksense, and by pressing just one button, start reading a book right
> where I left off. No need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher
> and bring up my BARD Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that
> it's a physical button, and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting
> a physical button while the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I
> know it's not that hard to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading
> again, but it is convenient to have a device dedicated to my book
> reading and being only one button away from reading.
>
> I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around.
> I can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a
> lanyard, so I can just hang it from my neck.
>
> Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the
> BARD Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my
> iPhone and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the
> BARD Mobile app.
>
> On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>> there are advantages to using a separate device.
>> Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down
>> battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that
>> have discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader).
>> all of these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my
>> experience that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want
>> reliability without sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra
>> devices on hand.
>>
>> Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one
>> device, but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just
>> a phone.
>>
>> Just something to keep in mind.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
>>> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app,
>>> and
>>> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine
>>> why
>>> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some
>>> may
>>> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be
>>> upgrading
>>> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
>>> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>>
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>>
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
>>> on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
>>> my
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Rumery" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>>
 How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
 know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very
 log
>>>
 time for it.

 Scott Rumery
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm really looking forward to the BARD Mobile app, but I also like 
having a separate device. In addition to what Eric says below about the 
battery consumption, I also like just being able to pick up my 
Booksense, and by pressing just one button, start reading a book right 
where I left off. No need to unlock the device, jump to the app switcher 
and bring up my BARD Mobile app to start reading again. The fact that 
it's a physical button, and I can just pause/play my reading by hitting 
a physical button while the Booksense is in my pocket, is also a plus. I 
know it's not that hard to get the BARD Mobile app to start reading 
again, but it is convenient to have a device dedicated to my book 
reading and being only one button away from reading.


I also think the booksense is a bit lighter and easier to carry around. 
I can operate it's buttons while it's in my pocket. I also have a 
lanyard, so I can just hang it from my neck.


Would I go out and buy a Booksense if I already had an iPhone and the 
BARD Mobile app? I'm not sure, but I do know that I'll be using both my 
iPhone and my Booksense to read BARD books once I get my hands on the 
BARD Mobile app.


On 09/13/2013 02:57 PM, eric oyen wrote:

there are advantages to using a separate device.
Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that have 
discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). all of 
these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my experience 
that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want reliability without 
sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra devices on hand.

Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one device, 
but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a phone.

Just something to keep in mind.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:


Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine why
one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be upgrading
to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval



How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log



time for it.

Scott Rumery
On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:


The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.

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Re: playing music on my iPhone from my network

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

can u give us any tips for using the app with the screen reader? on 
setting up the folders? this is where I get stuck.


On 9/13/2013 12:31 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

Hi.

I had great success with Tonido, the set of desktop and IOS apps that
someone had recommended on this list.

I'm sure you may know that the Apple TV does not support DLNA and I was
looking for a solution for being able to access all of my media files on my
NAS without having to add them through iTunes. Tonido did the trick for me.
After installing the desktop app for Windows and going through the setup,
and downloading the IOS app, I'm now able to access my NAS and play to my
Apple TV via AirPlay. Works great.

The desktop program is kind of weird with a screen reader but definitely
usable with some patience and a good knowledge of your screen reader. You
need to use the desktop app to setup your Tonido account and specify which
folders you want to share. Once that's done, you don't have to mess with it
any more.

Just thought I would update the list for anyone wanting to try Tonido.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:35 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: playing music on my iPhone from my network

Hi,

It sure will.  :).  Open iTunes on your PC, enable home sharing, and follow
the same steps I stated previously on your IOS device.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:


Ricardo,
Do you know if this procedure will work on iTunes on the PC? I rather
think not, but am checking just in case.
Thanks.
Terrie

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:31 PM
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Subject: Re: playing music on my iPhone from my network

Hi,

This is pretty straight forward.  Just turn on iTunes homesharing on
your Mac in iTunes and on your IOS device in settings/ music.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Agent086b  wrote:


Hi,
I wish to use my iTunes library on my Mac.
Thanks,
Max.

On 13/09/2013, at 2:11 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:


Yes, it is.

Where do you want to get your music from?


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Agent086b  wrote:


Hi,
is it possible to play music on my iPhone by connecting to my network?
Thanks for any advice.
Max.

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

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According to an answer on the list already, it's called BARD Mobile.

On 09/13/2013 02:12 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

Does anybody know what the name of this app will be?
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- Original Message - From: "Russ Kiehne" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval



Wow, that is great news.  I'm really looking forward to this app!

-Original Message- From: Bill Holton
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:03 AM
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I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the
beta
is over and the app has been submitted.


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How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because
I know
that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log
time
for it.

Scott Rumery
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The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[eric oyen]

there are advantages to using a separate device.
Chief among these is battery life on the iPhone. Playing media sucks down 
battery like an old drunk on a bender. Its the same with other apps that have 
discrete devices (trekker breeze, color detector and barcode reader). all of 
these devices are specially designed for that one task. Its been my experience 
that iPhone apps are fine in a pinch, but when you want reliability without 
sacrificing battery life, its better to have the extra devices on hand.

Sure, its convenient to have all your functions and technology in one device, 
but it that device breaks, you are out a whole lot more than just a phone.

Just something to keep in mind.

-eric

On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:

> Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
> BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
> Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine why
> one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
> still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be upgrading
> to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
> ---
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
> 
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> 
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Rumery" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
> 
> 
>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I 
>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log
> 
>> time for it.
>> 
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>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
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>>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Alan Paganelli]

Does anybody know what the name of this app will be?
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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

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the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Russ Kiehne" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval



Wow, that is great news.  I'm really looking forward to this app!

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Holton

Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the beta
is over and the app has been submitted.


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Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I 
know

that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log time
for it.

Scott Rumery
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Re: downgrading i-OS

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven't done this myself, but from earlier discussions on list and a 
bit of research via Google in the past, you'll either need a signed copy 
of the firmware from Apple, which you can usually still get for a week 
or so after a new version of IOS has been released, or you need to save 
your shsh blob before upgrading. Here's just one place where you can 
read a bit more: http://www.ijailbreak.com/how-to-downgrade/


On 09/13/2013 02:02 PM, Chris H wrote:

A backup isn't enough I don't think. That will only backup the contacts,
settings, etc.

On 13/09/2013 19:34, Bill Gallik wrote:

Isn't it possible to save the iPhone backup residing on the computer to
a designated folder and then move it back into the "official" backup
location if it is necessary to get back to the current iOS?  That's what
I'd try to do.

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- "Chase after the truth like all hell and you'll free yourself, even
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- Clarence Darrow, American Lawyer & Politician, 1857-1938
- Original Message - From: "Rami" 
To: 
Cc: "Alan Paganelli" 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:55 PM
Subject: downgrading i-OS



Hello
as we already know, i-OS 7 will be out next weak. i actually intend to
upgrade, but i heard that apple changed the voices. in case the Arabic
voice was not as good as the current one, will there be a way for me
to downgrade to 6.1.3 again? if yes, how can i do this?
thanks in advance.

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Mike Arrigo]

This may still be the case, not sure, but the number of blind android 
users is growing fast, and that's a very good thing. The level of 
accessibility that is provided is now on the same level, another good thing.

Original message:
One thing that may have enfluenced the NLS is, there are probably more 
blind iOS users than android users.



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On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Mike Arrigo > wrote:



Hopefully the android version will not be far behind, I actually wish 
they would have released them both at the same time.

Original message:




I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the beta
is over and the app has been submitted.





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How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I know
that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log time
for it.





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On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton > wrote:





The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.





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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[John Diakogeorgiou]

That was already asked and answered in the thread.

On 9/13/13, Alan Paganelli  wrote:
> Does anybody know what the name of this app will be?
> ---
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
>
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Russ Kiehne" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
>
>> Wow, that is great news.  I'm really looking forward to this app!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Holton
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>
>> I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the
>> beta
>> is over and the app has been submitted.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Scott Rumery
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>
>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
>> know
>> that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log
>> time
>> for it.
>>
>> Scott Rumery
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>
>>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
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Downcast question Is continuous play of podcasts possible

[TaraPrakash]

Dear all  i want downcast To play podcasts continuously  I want it to move to 
next part cost when one is finished  So that it always is playing some podcasts 
or the other. Is it possible? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Shane clark  wrote:

> Ok, so I got a notification earlier saying all feeds were refreshed and no 
> new episodes were available. So why did I get it out of the blue? Again, I 
> stream all new episodes, and I'm set to automatically refresh every three 
> hours. I'm just confused as to why I got this notification when I did... Do 
> these occur when the app is running in the background or does it have to be 
> closed? I read the help section, but I'm still trying to get the hang of it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:
> 
>> Also, remember that if you have downcast set to download only when connected 
>> to a wifi connection which I think is the default then it will not complete 
>> the download until you have said connection.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 13:20
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Downcast question
>>  
>> In iOS 6, audio-related apps are only allowed to run in the background for 
>> quite a short time. So if you run the app and then switch to another app, 
>> Downcast can keep going for a bit, fetching your podcasts and updating your 
>> feeds. But if you don't switch back from time to time, it's eventually going 
>> to time out and stop doing that. They implemented the location awareness 
>> feature to get around this. So for example it can be set up to update your 
>> feeds when you arrive at the airport.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>>  
>> On 13/09/2013, at 1:51 AM, Shane Clark  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So it doesn 't refresh without opening the app? I thought that  maybe it  
>> did it by itself, because I thought I got a notification one time before 
>> saying two new items were available without opening the app
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My guess is that it refreshes when you open the app if it's been 3 hours or 
>> more since the last refresh. Double-tap the rEfresh button near the top of 
>> the screen, and Downcast should do it.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Shane clark  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I have my feeds in Downcast to refresh every 3 hours and in notifications 
>> say new episodes button on, and feed refreshing button on. However, today 
>> around 2:30, I was listening to a podcast, and got done, and just left 
>> Downcast running in the background. I checked it about 30 minutes ago to see 
>> if any new podcast where available, and nothing was available… However, when 
>> I opened up podcast five new episodes all of a sudden became available… Why 
>> is this? Why isn't the podcasts refreshing themselves automatically? I 
>> thought that when you left Downcast Running in the background, and you had 
>> everything set up to automatically refresh, that it would without having to 
>> open up the app.
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Rick Alfaro]

I believe it is called Bard Mobile.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

Does anybody know what the name of this app will be?
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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

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Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

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- Original Message -
From: "Russ Kiehne" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


> Wow, that is great news.  I'm really looking forward to this app!
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Bill Holton
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
> I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the beta
> is over and the app has been submitted.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Scott Rumery
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I 
> know
> that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log time
> for it.
>
> Scott Rumery
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>
>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
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Re: problem using nfl mobile

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello,

I have found 2 ways of listening to games in the app.

First way to listen to a game:

* double tap on the menu button in the top left corner.
* right flick until you get to teams, and Double tap.
* Then right flick to the team you want to listen too, and double tap.
* Then right flick until you come to game center, and double tap.
* Then there is a listen to audio live button near the bottom of the screen, so 
you might want to go to the bottom of the screen, and left flick up until you 
get to it, then double tap.
* Most of the time, it then starts playing.
* But all of the controls are then at the top of the screen.  So then go to the 
top left, and right flick, and you will find a play button, stop button, a 
source button, and even a volume control.

The source button is where you control which team feed you listen too.
I think the default is the home team, but you can change it to the away team if 
you like.
Double tap the source button, then right flick until you get to away and double 
tap.


The second way I found to listen to games:

* Double tap the menu button in the upper left of the screen.
* Right flick and double tap schedule.
* I just touch the center of the screen, and it normally puts me in a list of 
games for that week.  You can right and left flick until you find the game you 
want.  It also has the time each game starts.
* So after you find the game you want, just double tap it.
* Now you will need to find that listen audio live button near the bottom as 
mentioned above and double tap it.
* As stated above, it normally automatically starts playing at this time for 
me, but as mentioned above, the controls are at the top of the screen.  Just go 
to the upper left and right flick.

Again, the source button is where you change the team feed you want to listen 
too.

I hope this has been helpful.

Chris Chaffin

From: john riehl 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: problem using nfl mobile

Iam new to the list. I downloaded NFL Mobile. I’m a Verizon customer, not an 
NFL pass owner. After going through the sign-in process I got into the app but 
had trouble finding the games. Many of the buttons didn’t seem to be labeled. 
Can someone give me a tip on how to access the actual games using NFL Mobile?  
Thanks. 

PS There were several apps; I chose the first one that came up on the list, 
which says it was produced by the NFL. 

Thanks. 

John riehl

 

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RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes, it's the official app from NLS so we can read books downloaded from
BARD on our iDevices. Between this app, the Kindle app, the Nook app, and
Voice Dream Reader or Read2Go for BookShare books, it's hard to imagine why
one would need devices like the Stream or BookSense but I'm sure some may
still prefer using a separate device. This is my plan so I will be upgrading
to the 64gb version of the 5s so I have no issues with space.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
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- Original Message -
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Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I 
> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log

> time for it.
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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Alan Paganelli]

I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you 
listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?

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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval


How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I 
know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log 
time for it.


Scott Rumery
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The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't want to put words in Mike's mouth, but I suspect he isn't saying 
that iPhone users should have been made to wait but rather that NLS 
would have put the resources and schedules in place so that they'd 	both 
be ready at the same time.


On 09/13/2013 11:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

What would have been the point of having IOS users wait for an Android version 
of the app to be completed?

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On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:


Hopefully the android version will not be far behind, I actually wish they 
would have released them both at the same time.
Original message:

I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the beta
is over and the app has been submitted.




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How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I know
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The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.



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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

any idea how long it takes apple to approve apps?
On 9/13/2013 9:29 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:

That is great news. Thanks for the info.

On 9/13/13, Scott Rumery  wrote:

Okay that is such awesome news. I can't wait to give it a try.

Scott
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I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the
beta
is over and the app has been submitted.


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How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
know
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Re: downgrading i-OS

[Chris H]

A backup isn't enough I don't think. That will only backup the contacts, 
settings, etc.


On 13/09/2013 19:34, Bill Gallik wrote:

Isn't it possible to save the iPhone backup residing on the computer to
a designated folder and then move it back into the "official" backup
location if it is necessary to get back to the current iOS?  That's what
I'd try to do.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "Chase after the truth like all hell and you'll free yourself, even
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- Original Message - From: "Rami" 
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Cc: "Alan Paganelli" 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:55 PM
Subject: downgrading i-OS



Hello
as we already know, i-OS 7 will be out next weak. i actually intend to
upgrade, but i heard that apple changed the voices. in case the Arabic
voice was not as good as the current one, will there be a way for me
to downgrade to 6.1.3 again? if yes, how can i do this?
thanks in advance.

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RE: playing music on my iPhone from my network

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi.

I had great success with Tonido, the set of desktop and IOS apps that
someone had recommended on this list.

I'm sure you may know that the Apple TV does not support DLNA and I was
looking for a solution for being able to access all of my media files on my
NAS without having to add them through iTunes. Tonido did the trick for me.
After installing the desktop app for Windows and going through the setup,
and downloading the IOS app, I'm now able to access my NAS and play to my
Apple TV via AirPlay. Works great.

The desktop program is kind of weird with a screen reader but definitely
usable with some patience and a good knowledge of your screen reader. You
need to use the desktop app to setup your Tonido account and specify which
folders you want to share. Once that's done, you don't have to mess with it
any more.

Just thought I would update the list for anyone wanting to try Tonido.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Subject: Re: playing music on my iPhone from my network

Hi,

It sure will.  :).  Open iTunes on your PC, enable home sharing, and follow
the same steps I stated previously on your IOS device.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:

> Ricardo,
> Do you know if this procedure will work on iTunes on the PC? I rather 
> think not, but am checking just in case.
> Thanks.
> Terrie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:31 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Re: playing music on my iPhone from my network
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is pretty straight forward.  Just turn on iTunes homesharing on 
> your Mac in iTunes and on your IOS device in settings/ music.
> 
> hth
> 
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> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> 
> On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I wish to use my iTunes library on my Mac.
>> Thanks,
>> Max.
>> 
>> On 13/09/2013, at 2:11 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it is.
>>> 
>>> Where do you want to get your music from?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!
>>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 is it possible to play music on my iPhone by connecting to my network?
 Thanks for any advice.
 Max.
 
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Re: Question about Siri in iOS 7

[Alan Paganelli]

What about it?  I'm with AT&T.  Am I missing something?
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- Original Message - 
From: "Anthony Vece" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Question about Siri in iOS 7


Hey Alan;

Don't forget about VERIZON.

Anthony



Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On Sep 12, 2013, at 2:15 PM, "Alan Paganelli"  
wrote:


According to yesterdays presentation, he said "we have created a new voice 
for siri and then let us hear a short bit of speech from both voices. 
They did not sound like any I have heard before so I can only assume they 
are totally new.  We'll have until at least next weekend to find out when 
somebody on the list is lucky enough to lay hands on a 5S.  I wouldn't 
want to be a worker at an Apple or AT&T store this weekend.

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- Original Message - From: "Josh Eubank" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:24 PM
Subject: Question about Siri in iOS 7


I just had a quick question for anyone who may be able to answer it. I 
just downloaded vocalizer expressive for my screen reader last night. When 
I listened to both Tom and Samantha who I thought we're going to be the 
new voices for Siri and iOS 7 what I was hearing did not seem to match 
what I heard from Siri during the Apple keynote from yesterday or the WWDC 
event in June. Now, when I say Samantha, I mean the improved female voice. 
To me it sounds like an improved version of Samantha but the Samantha that 
I have a vocalizer expensive sounds just the same as before. And Tom 
doesn't match the mail voice either. So I just wondered And sorry that was 
supposed to say the Samantha that is in vocalizer expressive. Also, again, 
the mail voice shown during the presentation from Apple does not match 
Tom's voice either. So I'm confused I don't understand what's going on. Is 
Apple not using the vocalizer expressive voices anymore? Thanks a lot


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

[Alan Paganelli]

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- Original Message - 
From: "Anthony Vece" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C


Hi Alan;

I had an iPhone 4S.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On Sep 12, 2013, at 3:53 PM, "Alan Paganelli"  
wrote:


That's interesting you saying you have an iPhone 5 and you said you should 
of stuck with the iPhone 4.  May I ask what makes you say that?

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- Original Message - From: "Anthony Vece" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C


Hi Chris;

I have the 5 with Verizon and, i'm staying put also.

Now that I look back on it I should have stayed with the 4.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


I'm sticking with my 4S for now. Maybe I'll be tempted to upgrade before 
the next iPhone comes out, but I'm not unhappy with my iPhone 4S, and I 
don't see anything in the 5S right now that compels me to upgrade. I 
don't see this as a failing of Apple, and I'm not passing judgment on 
anyone who does choose to upgrade. The 4S just meets my needs right now, 
and I personally don't see a reason to spend the money to get a 5S.


On 09/11/2013 05:41 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

You would be going up 2 models.  It probably would be worth it.  If it
were me, and I was going from a 4S to a 5S I'd do it.  Sense I'm going
from a 4 to a 5S I'm for sure going to do it.
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- Original Message - From: "Tess" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: Features of the 5S and 5C



I am torn myself.
I have the 4S, and waited until this came out, but I am wondering if
it is
really worth spending money for it, or just wait until another year or 
so

and see if something else comes afloat.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Features of the 5S and 5C

Those are my views as well. This will be a great upgrade for those of 
us

that are on the 4s cycle and eligible for an upgrade with their
carrier of
choice. For those on an iPhone 5, although the 5s has some really nice
improvements, it probably wouldn't be worth paying full price for one 
and

would make more sense waiting a year for the iPhone 6.  I'm definitely
going
for the 5s but I have to admit thatg I'm somewhat disappointed that
there's
no pre-order possible for that model. Not sure but I believe Apple's
thinking behind that is wanting to create more excitement and crazy
lines at
the retail stores.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Features of the 5S and 5C

Hi, these are my thoughts as well. When I got the 4S in February last
year
and then saw the 5 out later that year it wasn't worth it to upgrade. 
Not

only that, but it was too soon money-wise, but with the differences
between
4S and 5S, and the time elapsed, it's worth it to me and I'll be 
getting
this one. I'm looking forward to the new 64-bit chip and a better 
camera.

The fingerprint capabilities is also a nice thing to me.

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On 9/10/2013 10:14 PM, David Chittenden wrote:

The 5c is the same internally as

RE: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[Rick Alfaro]

It can really vary. From experience I've had beta testing other apps, it can
be as quick as one week but definitely can go longer. With the release of
IOS 7, I would imagine they must be flooded with updates so it wouldn't
surprise me if it took a while.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

any idea how long it takes apple to approve apps?
On 9/13/2013 9:29 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:
> That is great news. Thanks for the info.
>
> On 9/13/13, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>> Okay that is such awesome news. I can't wait to give it a try.
>>
>> Scott
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:03 AM, "Bill Holton"  wrote:
>>
>>> I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that 
>>> the beta is over and the app has been submitted.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Behalf Of Scott Rumery
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>>>
>>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news 
>>> because I know that there are a lot of blind people who have been 
>>> waiting a very log time for it.
>>>
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>>
 The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Yes

On 9/13/13, Alan Paganelli  wrote:
> I haven't been following this thread.  Is this an app which will let you
> listen to NLS talking books on an iPhone for example?
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> Alan
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Rumery" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
>
>
>> How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I
>> know that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log
>>
>> time for it.
>>
>> Scott Rumery
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>
>>> The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
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