Re: iExplorer for Mac Info

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Eileen,

I have no idea about any Windows license. Honestly, I remember this app being 
free so the price is news to me. I must confess I did not read the link that 
far, as I thought it was still free.

The app is definitely called iExplorer and seems to be the one I have so 
perhaps they've adopted a new model for it.

When I got it, it had already gone through one transition which was a 
name-change. It used to be called iPhone Explorer.

If the site says you get a Windows license as well, then you do. :)

Are you saying at this point, that you cannot back up your iPhone? If this is 
the case then yes, I'd recommend some app like this which can allow you to 
browse your phone, but this is absolutely not the best way (or even a good way) 
to do any kind of system-wide backup.

I'd use iTunes for this. When you do a backup with iTunes, certain crucial 
folders on your device are guaranteed to be backed up so this is really the way 
to go about this if you need to keep your personal data intact.

Remember, I only recommended this app to possibly be able to remove the 
unwanted download of iOS 7 so anything else is way out of the scope of my note. 
:)

I'm sorry I can't be of more help.

Have a great evening and please do let us know how this goes for you.

Thanks,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

Hi Cara, 

I just reviewed iExplorer with the link that you gave me. For those who may be 
interested, the cost for the basic version is $34.95. If I read the info 
correctly, it stated the license was good for both a Mac & PC. Can you confirm 
this Cara? This looks interesting, but I need to see if my iPhone4 is stable 
enough for me to invest the money in the product. So far, it's recovery mode 
from a water spill. It's doing okay, but I want to be sure. 

I will paste the link back in this email just in case others didn't see it in a 
previous post. 

http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/?gclid=CK-W6q2Fg7oCFetxQgodBXQAcA


Best, 
Eileen 

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Re: ESPN APP.

[Pete Nalda]

They have several. Score center and sport center to name two. 

Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Oct 5, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks:
> 
> I am looking for the ESPN app but, for the life of me, I can't find it.  I 
> find everything else concerning ESPN but not the app itself. Any help would 
> be appreciated all over the place.
> 
> Thanks.
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iExplorer for Mac Info

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Cara, 

I just reviewed iExplorer with the link that you gave me. For those who may be 
interested, the cost for the basic version is $34.95. If I read the info 
correctly, it stated the license was good for both a Mac & PC. Can you confirm 
this Cara? This looks interesting, but I need to see if my iPhone4 is stable 
enough for me to invest the money in the product. So far, it's recovery mode 
from a water spill. It's doing okay, but I want to be sure. 

I will paste the link back in this email just in case others didn't see it in a 
previous post. 

http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/?gclid=CK-W6q2Fg7oCFetxQgodBXQAcA


Best, 
Eileen 

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Re: VO sounds

[David Chittenden]

I agree with Christopher and Cara. Mute means mute all sounds.

I would rather see sounds be individually muted in the control panel for those 
who want one set of sounds without any of the other sounds, and the mute switch 
mutes everything except the VO voice. Something like how airplane mode turns 
off all of the radios.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Oct 2013, at 15:56, Brice Smith  wrote:
> 
> I suppose I don't really understand how VO sounds factor into
> disruptions during meetings.
> 
> If you have the mute switch down with VO sounds still on, the ringer
> volume is of course on vibrate. You will only hear a noise if you
> flick right or left on the screen with voiceover, unless you turn VO
> clicks off. What has burned me in the past in meetings is when I've
> failed to turn the VO volume down on the phone with the physical
> volume buttonsso even if I'm in vibrate mode, VO might loudly read
> "10:03, one notification" for the entire room to hear, vibrate mode or
> not. This is why I always turn the vibrate switch on, and I also take
> the added step of turning VO volume down very low before I go
> somewhere.
> 
> But I still don't understand how the VO clicks themselves are
> inconveniencing people. They are not very loud or noticeable. They are
> certainly nowhere near as disrupting as a loud Samantha that hasn't
> been turned down.
> 
> 
>> On 10/6/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute
>> button and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a
>> meeting and realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have
>> to unlock it so I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds
>> off. I don't always want to turn the phone off because I may want to
>> quickly look something up, check for messages or take a quick note. It
>> may be true that the mute button just turns off the ringer and alerts,
>> but those are the sounds a phone makes when VoiceOver isn't on. I think
>> the real purpose of the mute button, as used by sighted users, is to
>> mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The vibration may bother some,
>> but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less bothersome to those
>> around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading an alert.
>> 
>>> On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote:
>>> I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my
>>> favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the
>>> ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds
>>> for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't
>>> on before.
>>> 
>>> For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose
>>> of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make
>>> the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying
>>> than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down
>>> but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it
>>> speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time,
>>> ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch
>>> as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want
>>> total silence, turn the phone off.
>>> 
>>> Brice
>>> 
 On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 Hi Cara,
 
 I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch
 as
 was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where
 people
 actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and
 that
 one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover
 sounds.
 
 As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll
 find
 too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to
 press
 power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off
 with
 a
 3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Cara Quinn
 Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VO sounds
 
 Hi shane,
 
 I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with
 my
 mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the
 sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, I could
 simply
 flip the mute switch.
 
 For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want that
 actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now there are
 a
 whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since we're on the
 subject, I'd also wish I could

RE: Some apps are waiting, and nothing happens

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Antonio,

If an app says "Waiting" and doesn't open it means said app has an update.
Normally if an update doesn't install double tapping on the app will restart
the download/install and if it's successful you can once again use the app.
If it goes back to "Waiting" it means the update process has not completed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Some apps are waiting, and nothing happens

Hello,

I have a few apps that are not behaving properly. Some of them appear on my
home screen, but will not open when I double tap. This includes tap tap see,
and the BARD app.

The phone just sits there, and the apps that it says that it is waiting.

I noticed the problem at around the time of the 7.0 upgrade.

I have since bought an iPhone 5S, transferred my old apps and settings to
the phone, and of course, I am using a version of 7.0. I'm using the latest,
7.0.2.

I do have over 300 apps in this phone , but I don't think that should
matter.

I am using FireTask and I cannot delete projects and tasks within the
project. Haven't tried adding stuff to it yet, so I just know that it cannot
delete.

I am happy to look at other apps that are behaving in the same way. And I
would be interested to see if people have experienced something like this.

Antonio

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Pandora Question

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
Well, the saga continues with my new 5S. When I set up Pandora on my iPhone 4, 
all my stations were in alphabetical order, with the exception of Weird Al 
Yankevic, who was at the top of my station list. Figures, ha ha.

Anyhow, I installed Pandora, got signed in on my 5S and the station order is 
completely scrambled. Is there a way to re-sort them so that they're in 
alphabetical order as I had them originally?  If Weird Al stays at the top it's 
no big deal. 
Thanks,
Tom

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ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.

[Liz and Sammie]

I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get through a
whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station
list.  Has anyone been experiencing this.  Also, my stations at best have
been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing.  Has anyone
experienced this issue as well?  If this keeps up, I am going to renew my
Pandora subscription.  

Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie

Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1


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Re: VO sounds

[Brice Smith]

I suppose I don't really understand how VO sounds factor into
disruptions during meetings.

If you have the mute switch down with VO sounds still on, the ringer
volume is of course on vibrate. You will only hear a noise if you
flick right or left on the screen with voiceover, unless you turn VO
clicks off. What has burned me in the past in meetings is when I've
failed to turn the VO volume down on the phone with the physical
volume buttonsso even if I'm in vibrate mode, VO might loudly read
"10:03, one notification" for the entire room to hear, vibrate mode or
not. This is why I always turn the vibrate switch on, and I also take
the added step of turning VO volume down very low before I go
somewhere.

But I still don't understand how the VO clicks themselves are
inconveniencing people. They are not very loud or noticeable. They are
certainly nowhere near as disrupting as a loud Samantha that hasn't
been turned down.


On 10/6/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute
> button and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a
> meeting and realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have
> to unlock it so I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds
> off. I don't always want to turn the phone off because I may want to
> quickly look something up, check for messages or take a quick note. It
> may be true that the mute button just turns off the ringer and alerts,
> but those are the sounds a phone makes when VoiceOver isn't on. I think
> the real purpose of the mute button, as used by sighted users, is to
> mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The vibration may bother some,
> but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less bothersome to those
> around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading an alert.
>
> On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote:
>> I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my
>> favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the
>> ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds
>> for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't
>> on before.
>>
>> For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose
>> of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make
>> the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying
>> than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down
>> but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it
>> speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time,
>> ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch
>> as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want
>> total silence, turn the phone off.
>>
>> Brice
>>
>> On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Hi Cara,
>>>
>>> I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch
>>> as
>>> was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where
>>> people
>>> actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and
>>> that
>>> one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover
>>> sounds.
>>>
>>> As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll
>>> find
>>> too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to
>>> press
>>> power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off
>>> with
>>> a
>>> 3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Cara Quinn
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: VO sounds
>>>
>>> Hi shane,
>>>
>>> I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with
>>> my
>>> mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the
>>> sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, I could
>>> simply
>>> flip the mute switch.
>>>
>>> For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want that
>>> actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now there are
>>> a
>>> whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since we're on the
>>> subject, I'd also wish I could have my VoiceOver speech obey the mute
>>> switch
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm
>>> glad
>>> that people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd prefer it
>>> to
>>> obey the mute setting. Sometimes having more settings just to have more
>>> settings is not always a desirable or sane thing to do. :)
>>>
>>> Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I won't
>>> make
>>> that mistake again. :)
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>>
>>> Smiles,
>>>
>>> Cara :)
>>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,

Some apps are waiting, and nothing happens

[Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.]

Hello,

I have a few apps that are not behaving properly. Some of them appear on my 
home screen, but will not open when I double tap. This includes tap tap see, 
and the BARD app.

The phone just sits there, and the apps that it says that it is waiting.

I noticed the problem at around the time of the 7.0 upgrade.

I have since bought an iPhone 5S, transferred my old apps and settings to the 
phone, and of course, I am using a version of 7.0. I'm using the latest, 7.0.2.

I do have over 300 apps in this phone , but I don't think that should matter.

I am using FireTask and I cannot delete projects and tasks within the project. 
Haven't tried adding stuff to it yet, so I just know that it cannot delete.

I am happy to look at other apps that are behaving in the same way. And I would 
be interested to see if people have experienced something like this.

Antonio

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Re: Siri and relationships, how to use?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

One thing you can do if you are concerned is to turn on the find my
phone feature. This way if you lose your phone you can have all the
data wiped from it.

On 10/6/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> If someone takes your phone to use it fraudulently then they'll have
> access to your contact information, so I don't think they'll have too
> much trouble getting to this information whether you set up a
> relationship in Siri or not. You could always set up a passcode if
> you're worried about it or get a 5x with the finger print scanner. This
> doesn't provide the greatest amount of security, but it'll keep the
> casual person from doing too much damage with your phone. You have to
> balance security with convenience. It's like the battery issue. If you
> go too far then you're severely limiting the usefulness of your device,
> but it's up to each person where to draw that line.
>
> On 10/02/2013 01:44 PM, marsyc...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Is it safe to do so? What happens if someone take ur device  for
>> fraudulent use?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2 Oct, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you think i know what went wrong now cheers.
>>>
>>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
>>> christopher...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> On 02/10/2013 12:52, Denny Schwab wrote:
 Hello,

 You tell Siri something like Jane Doe is my mother, Sandy Smith is my
 sister, and Jim Dale is my brother.  You need the individual in your
 contact list before doing this though.

 Once set up you can say call my mother, text my sister, and email my
 brother.  I am not sure if there are more options, but these are the
 ones I use.

 Denny

 On 10/2/13, Chris H  wrote:
> Good morning all.
> How exactly do I use the relationships feature of Siri?
> I'm asking this as I asked Siri to text my eldest sister. He then
> asked
> who he should send the message to and that he needs a name, e-mail or
> phone number. However he knows who my eldest sister is and she is in
> my
> contacts. I tried asking him to text my youngest sister but the same
> happened. He also knows who my father is but not tried that yet.
> Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Hi: Does such a program exist for a Windows based system? Also
although a bit slow 7.2 works acceptably fine with a 4. 6.2 was also
slow with the 4 but I didn't hear anyone complaining about that.

On 10/6/13, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:
> Hi Cara,
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look, as I am one of those who want
> to keep the older phone on 1.6.2. It would be nice to get back 3 GB on this
> phone. Luckily, I still have plenty of storage.
>
> Thanks again for supplying the link in your message.
>
> Best,
> Eileen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>
>> HI Eileen,
>>
>> iExplorer is an app which runs on your Mac, which allows you to see your
>> phone's file system and move files to and from it.
>>
>> My thought was that perhaps it might allow people to remove the unwanted
>> OS download from their phone to free up the space they need. Now, I have
>> no idea whether this will work but I thought I'd just put it out there for
>> people.
>>
>> Here's a linkie…
>>
>> http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/?gclid=CK-W6q2Fg7oCFetxQgodBXQAcA
>>
>> Hope this helps some.
>>
>> Smiles,
>>
>> Cara :)
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Eileen Misrahi 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Eileen
>>
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RE: VO sounds

[Cristóbal]

I have missed some phone calls and texts because I'd turned my phone to mute
with the switch, but since the clicks and whatnot are still enabled, I
don’t' realise my phone's wringing or pinging or whatever until later.
Especially if I don't have it on me to notice the vibrations for the alerts.
You turn it to mute and can easily forget about it since you can still
manage the phone with all the VO sounds enabled. 
Not exactly helpful. 
Oh well, just something else to get used to I suppose. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO sounds

I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute button
and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a meeting and
realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have to unlock it so
I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds off. I don't always
want to turn the phone off because I may want to quickly look something up,
check for messages or take a quick note. It may be true that the mute button
just turns off the ringer and alerts, but those are the sounds a phone makes
when VoiceOver isn't on. I think the real purpose of the mute button, as
used by sighted users, is to mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The
vibration may bother some, but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less
bothersome to those around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading
an alert.

On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote:
> I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my 
> favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the 
> ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds 
> for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't 
> on before.
>
> For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose 
> of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make 
> the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying 
> than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down 
> but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it 
> speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time, 
> ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch 
> as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want 
> total silence, turn the phone off.
>
> Brice
>
> On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Cara,
>>
>> I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute 
>> switch as was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several 
>> posts where people actually thought it was nice that now this was no 
>> longer the case and that one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) 
>> yet still get Voiceover sounds.
>>
>> As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think 
>> you'll find too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a 
>> big deal to press power or home to bring up the lock screen and then 
>> to turn speech off with a 3-finger double tap which always has and 
>> still works fine.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Cara Quinn
>> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VO sounds
>>
>> Hi shane,
>>
>> I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked 
>> with my mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to 
>> toggle the sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, 
>> I could simply flip the mute switch.
>>
>> For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want 
>> that actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now 
>> there are a whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since 
>> we're on the subject, I'd also wish I could have my VoiceOver speech 
>> obey the mute switch as well.
>>
>> For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm 
>> glad that people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd 
>> prefer it to obey the mute setting. Sometimes having more settings 
>> just to have more settings is not always a desirable or sane thing to 
>> do. :)
>>
>> Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I 
>> won't make that mistake again. :)
>>
>> Just my thoughts.
>>
>> Smiles,
>>
>> Cara :)
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds
on/off?
>> I currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds 
>> turned off, so I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of 
>> used to hearing both the iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so 
>> I am more or less trying to play around with the different settings.
>> What do you th

Re: VO sounds

[Joanne Chua]

Hi, One can always turn down the volume to zero. If not, one can also
3 fingers double tap to turn speech off. Third option is triple click
on home button to turn vo off.
Beside, one can also choose to use headphone, in that way, no one else
can listen to the anoying voiceover on speaker. Yes, VO is rather
anoying, when its on speaker. :)

On 07/10/2013, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute
> button and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a
> meeting and realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have
> to unlock it so I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds
> off. I don't always want to turn the phone off because I may want to
> quickly look something up, check for messages or take a quick note. It
> may be true that the mute button just turns off the ringer and alerts,
> but those are the sounds a phone makes when VoiceOver isn't on. I think
> the real purpose of the mute button, as used by sighted users, is to
> mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The vibration may bother some,
> but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less bothersome to those
> around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading an alert.
>
> On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote:
>> I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my
>> favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the
>> ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds
>> for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't
>> on before.
>>
>> For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose
>> of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make
>> the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying
>> than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down
>> but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it
>> speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time,
>> ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch
>> as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want
>> total silence, turn the phone off.
>>
>> Brice
>>
>> On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Hi Cara,
>>>
>>> I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch
>>> as
>>> was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where
>>> people
>>> actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and
>>> that
>>> one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover
>>> sounds.
>>>
>>> As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll
>>> find
>>> too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to
>>> press
>>> power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off
>>> with
>>> a
>>> 3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Cara Quinn
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: VO sounds
>>>
>>> Hi shane,
>>>
>>> I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with
>>> my
>>> mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the
>>> sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, I could
>>> simply
>>> flip the mute switch.
>>>
>>> For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want that
>>> actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now there are
>>> a
>>> whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since we're on the
>>> subject, I'd also wish I could have my VoiceOver speech obey the mute
>>> switch
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm
>>> glad
>>> that people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd prefer it
>>> to
>>> obey the mute setting. Sometimes having more settings just to have more
>>> settings is not always a desirable or sane thing to do. :)
>>>
>>> Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I won't
>>> make
>>> that mistake again. :)
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>>
>>> Smiles,
>>>
>>> Cara :)
>>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds
>>> on/off?
>>> I currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds turned
>>> off,
>>> so I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of used to
>>> hearing
>>> both the iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so I am more or less
>>> trying to play around with the different settings.
>>> What do you think of these settings, and how do you prefer to have your
>>> phone set?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: disappointment in music app

[Robert Doc Wright]

That is why I'm disapointed. Its a big hastle if the artist they list under 
the genre you pick only has one track.  I want to see the shuffle option set 
to shuffle everything under the genre I choose.
***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: disappointment in music app


I heard you must choose an artist before the shuffle button we'll show

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
>
> I use the app that comes with the phone.  I opened more then genres and
> chose the genre I wanted and thought I would see an option to shuffle all
> and I couldn't find one.
> ***
>  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
> matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.
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Re: VO sounds

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute 
button and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a 
meeting and realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have 
to unlock it so I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds 
off. I don't always want to turn the phone off because I may want to 
quickly look something up, check for messages or take a quick note. It 
may be true that the mute button just turns off the ringer and alerts, 
but those are the sounds a phone makes when VoiceOver isn't on. I think 
the real purpose of the mute button, as used by sighted users, is to 
mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The vibration may bother some, 
but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less bothersome to those 
around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading an alert.


On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote:

I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my
favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the
ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds
for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't
on before.

For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose
of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make
the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying
than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down
but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it
speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time,
ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch
as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want
total silence, turn the phone off.

Brice

On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Cara,

I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch as
was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where
people
actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and that
one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover
sounds.

As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll
find
too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to press
power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off with
a
3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO sounds

Hi shane,

I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with my
mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the
sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, I could simply
flip the mute switch.

For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want that
actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now there are a
whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since we're on the
subject, I'd also wish I could have my VoiceOver speech obey the mute
switch
as well.

For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm glad
that people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd prefer it to
obey the mute setting. Sometimes having more settings just to have more
settings is not always a desirable or sane thing to do. :)

Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I won't make
that mistake again. :)

Just my thoughts.

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark  wrote:

Hi all,
So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds on/off?
I currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds turned off,
so I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of used to hearing
both the iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so I am more or less
trying to play around with the different settings.
What do you think of these settings, and how do you prefer to have your
phone set?
Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Usage question for yo.tv

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Bob,

I hadn't used Yo recently, simply because I haven't had time to watch TV.
Just this list along with some other things are keeping me busy.  I don't
know if the problem is with the sensitivity of the screen in IOS 7 or what
but it keeps jumping all over the place.  I didn't have that problem under
IOS 6. You are right when you say that the screen seems to refresh regularly
and send you flying. 

Hope they fix that because it was a good app.  As I am writing this, I am
listening to it refresh about every minute.  What a pain.

If I can keep it steady long enough, there is a button called "contact us".
I'll try to hit it before I'm bounced somewhere else.  I'm pretty sure they
know about it but I'd still like to report it.

Ron & Danvers
  

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Fenton
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Usage question for yo.tv

Hello Ron:

Based on the note below, I see that you have experience with this program. I
am wondering if you have found a way to prevent the program from refreshing
the screen every minute or so throwing the cursor back up to single-digit
channel numbers. If you have any advice, please pass it along. Thank you for
your help.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Ron Pelletier 
wrote:
> 
> Hi Ioana,
> 
> I will look at it again and let you know.  I haven't used it in a few 
> weeks since I haven't had time to watch TV.  I do remember telling it 
> to locate me.  Then I selected my provider which is Videotron and it 
> came up with all the channels and all the programs.  It takes you to 
> the current date and time as soon as you open it.  I do remember that 
> you can set preferred channels since you probably don't subscribe to all
the channels on the grid.
> I do remember that you can search for a given program and it will 
> display all the channels dates and times when it plays.
> 
> I'll be in touch off list once I have played around with it again. 
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> 
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> Getting back up is LIVING...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Usage question for yo.tv
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> 
> Could you please give me some pointers on or off list about using yo.tv? 
> I set my provider, but bound that the app refreshed to often and 
> confused me. I also did not find a way to customize chanal lign-up.
> Any tips are very welcome. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Ioana
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Installing IOS 7

[Troy Sullivan]

You can bypass it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pinky 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:42 PM
  Subject: Installing IOS 7


  Hi,

   

  When you install IOS 7 do you have to put in a passcode after install or can 
you by pass that option on setup?


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Installing IOS 7

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Hi,

 

When you install IOS 7 do you have to put in a passcode after install or can
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Re: VO sounds

[Brice Smith]

I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my
favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the
ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds
for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't
on before.

For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose
of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make
the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying
than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down
but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it
speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time,
ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch
as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want
total silence, turn the phone off.

Brice

On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Cara,
>
> I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch as
> was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where
> people
> actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and that
> one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover
> sounds.
>
> As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll
> find
> too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to press
> power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off with
> a
> 3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO sounds
>
> Hi shane,
>
> I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with my
> mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the
> sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, I could simply
> flip the mute switch.
>
> For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want that
> actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now there are a
> whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since we're on the
> subject, I'd also wish I could have my VoiceOver speech obey the mute
> switch
> as well.
>
> For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm glad
> that people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd prefer it to
> obey the mute setting. Sometimes having more settings just to have more
> settings is not always a desirable or sane thing to do. :)
>
> Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I won't make
> that mistake again. :)
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Smiles,
>
> Cara :)
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds on/off?
> I currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds turned off,
> so I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of used to hearing
> both the iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so I am more or less
> trying to play around with the different settings.
> What do you think of these settings, and how do you prefer to have your
> phone set?
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: Looking for an accessible card reading app

[Beth G]

I have downloaded the app, and tested. I like it. So far I have not had the 
problem  you  discussed, but your description and solution makes sense. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Beth, Thank you! :)
> 
> Just to add a tiny bit to my last post on this, in the tarot reading, you'll 
> need to explore the screen with your finger to read the cards and their 
> descriptions.
> 
> the screen is laid out like a grid when you do the reading, so you have the 
> three icons for the  cards across the top of the screen from left to right.
> 
> Below them, you have the names of the cards and below that you have whether 
> or not they are inverted.
> 
> Lastly, below that you have the description for each card.
> 
> Now this screen is readable but can be a little finicky at times.
> 
> When you read a card, sometimes the description for the last card before it 
> will read and then the new one will read. So if you look at the past card and 
> then look at the present card, you might hear the name for the past card 
> first, and then hear the name for the present card. Does this make sense?
> 
> This does not always happen. So if you find you're hearing the earlier 
> description, just wait a second and the right one will be spoken for you.
> 
> when you want to go back to the previous screen, in the very bottom left of 
> the screen there is a return to Mystics link.
> 
> Hope this all helps and hope you enjoy the app!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Beth G  wrote:
> 
> Here is what I use and like:
> I just found a great iPhone app that I think you'll enjoy. It's called 
> Horoscope Pro! I hope you enjoy it! It's a great Horoscope app. Daily, 
> Weekly, Monthly horoscopes. Chinese Horoscopes, Dreambook. Love and 
> Friendship Matchers. And more: http://buzlylabs.com/horoscope/
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jen,
>> 
>> check out Mystics on my Hip. It is a cool little app which offers you four 
>> different readings.
>> 
>> • A runes reading
>> 
>> • I Ching
>> 
>> • 3 card Tarot reading
>> 
>> • Fortune Cookie  (fortune and lucky numbers)
>> 
>> Personally I like the Tarot reading. It is simple, using three cards for 
>> past, present and future and is accessible. It tells you the card, whether 
>> it is inverted or not, and gives you a short description of each card.
>> 
>> it is not in-depth by any means but it is a cute fun lil app! :)
>> 
>> I'm curious which app you use now?
>> 
>> Anyway, hope you dig this one and here's the linkie!
>> 
>> Mystics on myHIP by myHIP.com
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mystics-on-myhip/id297869336?mt=8
>> 
>> Have a great day!
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Jen Colley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> I use a horoscope app to read that info but I’m also wondering an app that 
>> is accessible with voice over that will read your terro card reading and 
>> other cool stuff like fortunes. 
>> Does anyone know of an app that will do all this? 
>> Jen 
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Re: VO sounds

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Sieghard,

Yes I turn speech off as you mention but I'm really responding to Shane about 
the question in regard to sounds. For me this is simply nothing but more work 
to do to achieve the results I want. :) So that's all.

Personally if I wanted a blindness-specific device which has all kinds of 
customized functionality which I need to remember, rather than just using the 
device with the more simplified functionality as it is designed for, then I'd 
have opted for something other than the iPhone. :)

I want my mute switch to be a simple and quick mute switch. Know what I mean? :)

If I'm in a meeting and want to mute my phone, I want to mute my phone; not 
need to do a bunch of steps that involve me remembering what to turn off where. 
I just want my phone to be quiet so I can concentrate and contribute and not 
need to find that oops, I guess that set of sounds was still turned on. Know 
what I mean? I really want to flip the simple little switch as it was put there 
for. :)

Anyway, as I said, just responding to Shane's excellent question here. :)

Thanks for your note and have an awesome rest of your Sunday!

Smiles,

Cara :)On Oct 6, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Cara,

I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch as
was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where people
actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and that
one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover sounds.

As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll find
too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to press
power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off with a
3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO sounds

Hi shane,

I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with my
mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the
sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, I could simply
flip the mute switch.

For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want that
actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now there are a
whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since we're on the
subject, I'd also wish I could have my VoiceOver speech obey the mute switch
as well.

For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm glad
that people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd prefer it to
obey the mute setting. Sometimes having more settings just to have more
settings is not always a desirable or sane thing to do. :)

Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I won't make
that mistake again. :)

Just my thoughts.

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark  wrote:

Hi all,
So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds on/off?
I currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds turned off,
so I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of used to hearing
both the iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so I am more or less
trying to play around with the different settings.
What do you think of these settings, and how do you prefer to have your
phone set?
Thanks.  

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Bard question

[Lois Butterfield]

You can try placing 4 fingers at the bottom of the screen.  That may not do
it.  If not, try 3 finger swiping until you get to the last page where the
button is.

Good luck,
Lois


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bard question

I have a Bard app question of my own. I'm running IOS 7.02  on a 4S. I 
downloaded the Bard mobile app and installed it without difficulty. But 
when I opened the app and attempted to double tap the agree button at 
the bottom of the initial licensing screen, nothing happened. If there 
are multiple licensing screens, just how do I quickly get to the end 
without being forced to read all of that verbiage?

Thanks.

Don Roberts


On 10/5/2013 5:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> That depends on where you found the book. If you found it in the wish
> list or in the recently added books list then you can download it
> directly to your phone by just double tapping the download button. If
> you went into browse BARD and found it by searching, going into most
> popular books or anywhere else other than your wish list or the recently
> added books list then you'll need to add it to your wish list first.
> You'll see an add to wish list button instead of a download button in
> these cases. You can then go to your wish list and down load the book
> directly to your phone.
>
> On 10/05/2013 03:29 AM, Shane clark wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I found a book on the Bard app I'd like to download, but I cant't find
>> how to begin the download. Can I download directly through the phone,
>> or do I have to use a pc?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Re: NFB Newsline Login Difficulties

[Tom Lange]

Okay, this is a weird one.  I've confirmed that my credentials are good by 
successfully logging on to

www.nfbnewslineonline.org

and I've uninstalled and reinstalled the app.  Next step I'll try is pairing my 
BrailleNote with the 5S, launching Newsline and logging in without the keypad, 
if that's possible.  If that works I'm a happy camper.  If not, well then, I'll 
have to contact Newsline support and see what they say.  
For now, I'm stumped.  I definitely didn't have this issue when I set up the 
app on my old iPhone 4 and older version of IOS, so I don't understand what's 
going on here. 

Tom

  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert stigile 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 11:56 AM
  Subject: Re: NFB Newsline Login Difficulties


  hi
  I don't have any issues 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:


Hi,
I may have to contact NFB Newsline support about this issue, but thought 
I'd check reading my with you all to see if anyone has had any recent problems 
logging into NFB Newsline using the NFB papersNewsline app on IOS 7. I just 
installed the NFB Newsline app on my iPhone 5S and I know that I've entered my 
credentials correctly, but I still get errors when trying to log in.  Has 
anybody run across this issue recently? If you have had problems and were able 
to resolve them, all suggestions are welcome.  

Thanks in advance.  
Tom


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Re: Looking for an accessible card reading app

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Beth, Thank you! :)

Just to add a tiny bit to my last post on this, in the tarot reading, you'll 
need to explore the screen with your finger to read the cards and their 
descriptions.

the screen is laid out like a grid when you do the reading, so you have the 
three icons for the  cards across the top of the screen from left to right.

Below them, you have the names of the cards and below that you have whether or 
not they are inverted.

Lastly, below that you have the description for each card.

Now this screen is readable but can be a little finicky at times.

When you read a card, sometimes the description for the last card before it 
will read and then the new one will read. So if you look at the past card and 
then look at the present card, you might hear the name for the past card first, 
and then hear the name for the present card. Does this make sense?

This does not always happen. So if you find you're hearing the earlier 
description, just wait a second and the right one will be spoken for you.

when you want to go back to the previous screen, in the very bottom left of the 
screen there is a return to Mystics link.

Hope this all helps and hope you enjoy the app!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Beth G  wrote:

Here is what I use and like:
I just found a great iPhone app that I think you'll enjoy. It's called 
Horoscope Pro! I hope you enjoy it! It's a great Horoscope app. Daily, Weekly, 
Monthly horoscopes. Chinese Horoscopes, Dreambook. Love and Friendship 
Matchers. And more: http://buzlylabs.com/horoscope/


Sent from my iPhone

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Hi Jen,
> 
> check out Mystics on my Hip. It is a cool little app which offers you four 
> different readings.
> 
> • A runes reading
> 
> • I Ching
> 
> • 3 card Tarot reading
> 
> • Fortune Cookie  (fortune and lucky numbers)
> 
> Personally I like the Tarot reading. It is simple, using three cards for 
> past, present and future and is accessible. It tells you the card, whether it 
> is inverted or not, and gives you a short description of each card.
> 
> it is not in-depth by any means but it is a cute fun lil app! :)
> 
> I'm curious which app you use now?
> 
> Anyway, hope you dig this one and here's the linkie!
> 
> Mystics on myHIP by myHIP.com
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mystics-on-myhip/id297869336?mt=8
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Oct 5, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Jen Colley  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I use a horoscope app to read that info but I’m also wondering an app that is 
> accessible with voice over that will read your terro card reading and other 
> cool stuff like fortunes. 
> Does anyone know of an app that will do all this? 
> Jen 
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Re: Bard question

[Donald L. Roberts]

I have a Bard app question of my own. I'm running IOS 7.02  on a 4S. I 
downloaded the Bard mobile app and installed it without difficulty. But 
when I opened the app and attempted to double tap the agree button at 
the bottom of the initial licensing screen, nothing happened. If there 
are multiple licensing screens, just how do I quickly get to the end 
without being forced to read all of that verbiage?


Thanks.

Don Roberts


On 10/5/2013 5:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

That depends on where you found the book. If you found it in the wish
list or in the recently added books list then you can download it
directly to your phone by just double tapping the download button. If
you went into browse BARD and found it by searching, going into most
popular books or anywhere else other than your wish list or the recently
added books list then you'll need to add it to your wish list first.
You'll see an add to wish list button instead of a download button in
these cases. You can then go to your wish list and down load the book
directly to your phone.

On 10/05/2013 03:29 AM, Shane clark wrote:

Hi,
I found a book on the Bard app I'd like to download, but I cant't find
how to begin the download. Can I download directly through the phone,
or do I have to use a pc?
Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: making and receiving calls since the upgrade

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi John,

Can you explain "is not so good when making/receiving calls"? What is your
iPhone doing or not doing? Maybe somebody on the list has recommendations,
but you have to provide specific examples about what is happening.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Of John Gallagher
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 2:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: making and receiving calls since the upgrade

Hi all,
Since the upgrade my iphone 4 s seems not as good when making and 
receiving calls.
First of all to save lots of battery life I went in to settings, 
general accessability then I checked reduce motion to be on as this 
saves lots of battery life.
found this out from a brilliant podcast look at
www.frequencycast.com
my samsung galaxy s iii is far better when making and receiving calls.
hear in the uk I am with vodafone with my iphone and t mobile on the
samsung.
wonder if the iphone 5 is better for making and receiving calls after 
all it's meant to be a phone.

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what reset to use and when?

[Troy Sullivan]

I know there's different methods when resetting the IPhone, I was just curious 
on under what conditions each of them applied?
I know it's necessary to do a power on reset when the phone is frozen (holding 
the home and power at the same time, but when is it necessary to use the reset 
under general? I know there are 2 options, one is just reset which from what I 
understand resets settings to default without aracing data and apps, then 
there's an arace all to wipe the phone clean. When is it necessary to do either 
or?

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Re: Pairing a braille note apex with an iPhone

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hi Alex,

I thought I would chime in with some tips on doing this. 
1. I place the typing mode in standard in order to perform a split double tap 
to get the four zeros in quickly.
2. The pair button is in the upper right hand corner just under the battery 
percentage. I line myself up with my right index finger before tapping on the 
pair button. 

It usually takes only 1-2 tries to get the Apex paired. Good luck.

Eileen
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:

> Thanks, that's what I thought, but it kept telling me I hadn't done it quick 
> enough, I guess I'll just have to keep trying!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2013, at 20:43, Joseph Lee  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> It is four zero's ().
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/6/13, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What pin do I type into my iPhone when I want to pair it with my braille
>>> note apex, no pin is displayed on the phone.Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

[Gary Petraccaro]

Individual users have individual strengths and weaknesses which will incline
them toward different decisions.  A weakness for one, coupled with a
drawback in an upgrade will mean more than to someone who either has no
interest in the item or has a strength in that area.  Also, as long as there
are upgrades and bug fixes, a decision at x.01 might be reversed or not with
x.04.  No one can tell for sure even though one can hope.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations



I agree that making the download of an upgrade manual is a reasonable
request, and I hope people are sending this request into Apple. I'm not
sure being able to downgrade, at least forever, is so reasonable though.
Apple promises a "it just works" or "a secure, easy to use, worry free
environment". Part of this is getting people on the latest level of the
software. People complain how much malware there is on Android and Windows
or how hard it is to find an Android phone with the latest and greatest
operating system and accessibility software and so on. Apple battles
security vulnerabilities and issues created by fragmentation by making it
as easy as possible for people to move up to the latest and greatest
software and encouraging them to do it. IMHO, if people are unhappy with
IOS 7 then they should be complaining about IOS 7 and how Apple didn't
deliver on it's promises with a new OS and not how they can't go back to
IOS 6 or how IOS 7 got on their phone in the first place.

You say IOS 7 is sluggish on your family members iPhone 4. Was it also
sluggish with IOS 6?

Also, I've never heard a lot of grumbling about Windows pushing updates
out to people's PC's without their knowledge mostly because I don't ever
recall a time when this wasn't a configurable option. I'm not sure
analogies with Windows go very far though. The Apple business model and
ecosystem is very different than that of Microsoft and the PC. The fact
that you get your PC from one company and the operating system from
another is one such case. Note that Microsoft is changing it's business
model and adapting some of the same characteristics of Apple's wildly
successful model. It isn't a coincidence that Microsoft has gotten into
the business of making their own tablet hardware and just bought a smart
phone handset manufacturer. Of course, Google got into the hardware
business themselves not too long ago, and I read an article recently on
how Android is pushing out upgrades on it's phones behind the scenes to
battle malware and fragmentation in the Android ecosystem.

On 10/04/2013 05:03 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

Hi Chris,

All analogies aside, I must say that while I personally am not
experiencing
any showstoppers with iOS 7, I think being able to downgrade, or at least
disable the automatic download, is a pretty reasonable request. I
personally
agree with Jonathan's post and don't see why listers object to that
request.
A sighted family member has an iPhone 4 with iOS 7 and when I turn on VO
to
help them, I definitely notice a lot of sluggishness.

In the past Microsoft has been chastised for automatically installing
updates to the Windows update engine itself without a user's consent. So
I
don't think Pablo's request is out of the ordinary by any means.

Grant

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Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: October 4, 2013 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

Well, I think it's a bad analogy. I think a better analogy is that I want
to
buy a home in a maintained community where I don't have to worry about
security or maintenance. The community will keep my walls fresh and
clean.
My carpeting will be replaced for me on a regular basis. My lawn will be
mowed and trimmed for me. Now to save costs and make sure all of the
houses
in the community look as nice as possible, I don't get to choose exactly
when my home will be painted or the carpeting replaced, and I have
limited
choices of colors. I'm OK if the maintenance crew needs to keep some
paint
and supplies in one of my closets.

On 10/04/2013 02:40 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Wow, this issue made me think about a situation very similar. For
example, I have a little home, One bed room, one bathroom, a little
kitchen and a little living room together. Even though, it is my home,
I am the owner of my great home. I clean and put my home nice every
day. I had to work very hard to buy this little home, and I love my
home. even though, one day, The god apple said.
Every body has to paint their homes of red, and I think, oh no, I
don't like the red color, no for my walls, it is a very stressful
color, and I said no. But God apple sent a group of solders to my
home, and they broke my door, and put in my bathroom, the gallons of
paint, red paint, brushes, and steps,

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Gary Petraccaro]

Now that you mention it, my phone when charging is locked.

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


  Well this issue changes by the day.  Even on 1% battery, without charger, my 
iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02.  So contrary to what David C. has 
stated, it looks as if the charger is now irrelevant. Which is odd, because I 
was able to stop the download a few days ago by disconnecting the charger, so 
something has changed.  My tests also suggest that the unit downloads the 
update whether locked or not. So it seems the only way to stop this download 
now is to turn WiFi off.  And who knows, Apple may be able to remove that 
barrier for those of us holding out...?



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RE: iTunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Is this on a PC or a Mac? If it's on a PC I assume you accidently installed
both iTunes 11.1 and the iCloud Control Panel.
You might want to check in Programs and Features and see if iCloud is
installed in your list of installed programs (they are presented in
alphabetical order).

Regards,
Sieghard

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Of simon wong
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes

Hi all, since updating to version 11.1 I keep getting this dialog box to
enter a iCloud account, but I do not have one, how do I get rid of this
annoying message?

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hi Cara,

Thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look, as I am one of those who want to 
keep the older phone on 1.6.2. It would be nice to get back 3 GB on this phone. 
Luckily, I still have plenty of storage. 

Thanks again for supplying the link in your message.

Best,
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> HI Eileen,
> 
> iExplorer is an app which runs on your Mac, which allows you to see your 
> phone's file system and move files to and from it.
> 
> My thought was that perhaps it might allow people to remove the unwanted OS 
> download from their phone to free up the space they need. Now, I have no idea 
> whether this will work but I thought I'd just put it out there for people.
> 
> Here's a linkie…
> 
> http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/?gclid=CK-W6q2Fg7oCFetxQgodBXQAcA
> 
> Hope this helps some.
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Eileen
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RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

How do you know it's downloading?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ierne
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

 

Well this issue changes by the day.  Even on 1% battery, without charger, my
iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02.  So contrary to what David C. has
stated, it looks as if the charger is now irrelevant. Which is odd, because
I was able to stop the download a few days ago by disconnecting the charger,
so something has changed.  My tests also suggest that the unit downloads the
update whether locked or not. So it seems the only way to stop this download
now is to turn WiFi off.  And who knows, Apple may be able to remove that
barrier for those of us holding out...?

 

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RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Raul,

I doubt it, iClean overwrites already deleted space with jibberish and
basically fills up your phone, at the end you get a message that your
storage is completely full, you tap OK, then iClean deletes what it
previously overwrote and while it can free up some space, its main claim is
with respect to security since somebody could theoretically recover things
which were previously deleted.


Regards,
Sieghard




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? 
Does the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc
space so that an app such as this might be able to clean it out? I have the
app, but I don't have a device with iOS 7 pending on it.

--
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user ID: rau47

On 10/6/2013 8:36 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
> Raul, anybody is saying that IOs 7 install by itself. That every body 
> is saying that IOs 7 is downloading by itself, filling space memory in 
> our devices. The way to empty this space, is installing IOs 7, because 
> is no way to delete the data downloaded by itself. Is true that we 
> have to agree for the instalation, but apple never asked about 
> agreement to download and fill memory space in our devices.
> .
> - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing 
> iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>
>
>> Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not 
>> complaining about . I don't believe there is a way this can be 
>> done without the user's knowledge or on purpose intervention. Not 
>> only do you have to tap the install button, you have to tap agree, 
>> and then agree a second time. Of course with Voice Over, it's double 
>> tap. After that, the phone goes quiet during the installation process 
>> and eventually reboots using iOS 7 and you are asked to continue and 
>> that's the part which shows up in many different languages. So, none 
>> of this is automagic. I have yet to read a real case situation where 
>> this has happened to someone. Also, I think it would be all over the 
>> news if it had. So, I think we are safe from the big bad Apple 
>> downloading and installing iOS 7 without our consent. Downloading it 
>> yes, installing it, no.
>>
>> --
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>> A neutron walks into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a 
>> drink?." The bartender says, "For you, no charge". Bazinga - Sheldon 
>> Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>>
>> On 10/4/2013 9:08 AM, Neal Ewers wrote:
>>> Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple 
>>> would load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or 
>>> other buttons as well? To hear people tell it, this magically 
>>> happens in the night with no knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we 
>>> lay this one to rest at last, but then I think that's what your 
>>> previous message actually did. I was just curious if this had 
>>> actually happened to anyone though I cannot think that it has.
>>>
>>> Neal
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now 
>>> forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>>>
>>> Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it 
>>> half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty 
>>> thinker?
>>> It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of 
>>> a half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but 
>>> seriously dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that 
>>> is true, then why did you update? I'm not talking about the fact 
>>> that Apple downloaded the iOS on your phone to be ready, I'm talking 
>>> about your willingness to choose to instal, choose to agree to the 
>>> terms that I bet you didn't read, and then choose to use iOS7. Apple 
>>> didn't force your fingers to tap the install and the agree button. 
>>> And in face, there are two agree buttons just to make sure. So, my 
>>> friend, you had a choice to upgrade. Now live with it.
>>> if this
>>> sounds harsh, so be it. If you look at the glass as half-full you 
>>> will see that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does have a lot of nice things 
>>> to offer.
>>> Also,
>>> the bugs will get worked out given some time. yes, Apple may have 
>>> pushed it out quickly, but seriously, the majority of the millions 
>>> of users who use the iPh

RE: Audible app not showing purchased books

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ricardo,

It's a 3-finger swipe down which does the refresh, same gesture you use in
mail, Downcast and other apps where you can refresh the content.

Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:38 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Audible app not showing purchased books

Hi,

A 3 finger swipe up from the main page also refreshes the app.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Hi Tom,
> Assuming that you are signed in two audible on the audible app, and you
have selected your library and cloud, go to settings. And in there, you
should find a button that will let you refresh your library. It's kind of
strange that they've hidden this away and settings, since it used to be
right on the opening screen after you were signed in and had selected your
library. But it does work. Good luck.
> Mary
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "Tom Rash"  wrote:
> 
>> How can I get access to my purchased books with the Audible app?  I
select cloud and am only seeing excerpts. 
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RE: VO sounds

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Cara,

I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute switch as
was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several posts where people
actually thought it was nice that now this was no longer the case and that
one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) yet still get Voiceover sounds.

As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think you'll find
too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a big deal to press
power or home to bring up the lock screen and then to turn speech off with a
3-finger double tap which always has and still works fine.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO sounds

Hi shane,

I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with my
mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the
sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, I could simply
flip the mute switch.

For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want that
actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now there are a
whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since we're on the
subject, I'd also wish I could have my VoiceOver speech obey the mute switch
as well.

For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm glad
that people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd prefer it to
obey the mute setting. Sometimes having more settings just to have more
settings is not always a desirable or sane thing to do. :)

Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I won't make
that mistake again. :)

Just my thoughts.

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark  wrote:

Hi all,
So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds on/off?
I currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds turned off,
so I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of used to hearing
both the iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so I am more or less
trying to play around with the different settings.
What do you think of these settings, and how do you prefer to have your
phone set?
Thanks.  

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Voice dream reader question

[denise avant]

Hi,
Well that is because I was in a bit of a hurry. So I didn't really explain 
things as thoroughly as I could have. I heard that Braille doesn't show up in 
pages under iOS 7. I don't know if this is still true for 7.02.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Aman Singer  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Denise.
> Thanks for the explanation and I'm sorry I didn't get what you were saying. 
> First, you can use the iOS voices with VoiceDream as reading voices. That, as 
> I said, is available in the voice store part of the app. For what you're 
> trying to do, though, I generally use pages, though this is slow. I would use 
> another app since VoiceDream offers no real advantages for this type of work, 
> in my view. Where VoiceDream really shines is in the reading of long files 
> aloud and occasional stops to look at things in braille. For short files 
> where one may want to switch back and forth between braille and speech quite 
> often, as with handouts, conference papers, agendas, etc, other apps may do 
> better. I  would be pleased to be corrected about this. Sorry again for not 
> getting things clear.
> Aman
> 
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 9:23 PM, denise avant  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Aman,
>> Thanks for trying to help me address my issue. I had heard that you could 
>> use the ios voices, namely Samantha in my case to read files. And you could 
>> thus use your Braille display along with it. So, here's what I was trying to 
>> do. I had a bunch of word files in Voice Dream, and I was at a seminar. I 
>> was trying to bring them up in the app and use both the speech and Brille 
>> depending on the circumstance during the lecture.
>> I noticed in the past that even with the read all gesture, I could not use 
>> files in voice dream, and therefore, I was asking if I needed to change some 
>> setting. I confess that I have not use the app in this way, as I usually use 
>> the tts voices just to listen.
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Aman Singer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> If you're using iOS 7, you can use Samantha by selecting it in the
>>> voice store. If you're using 6.x, you'll probably want to use
>>> VoiceOver itself, in which case you may want to try iBooks since, to
>>> my knowledge, the only thing VoiceDream offers to people who want to
>>> use VoiceOver is better file format support and better ways to add
>>> books.
>>> Aman
>>> 
 On 10/5/13, denise avant  wrote:
 No, but I want to use Samantha the iOS voice and not the voice on the
 program itself. I want to read MBraille but I also want to use that voice
 and want to make sure I read all the text. I have had a little problem with
 that.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 5, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Aman Singer  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> No, you should just need to hit "play". Are you having any specific
> difficulties? Is it stopping, for example, or is it crashing?
> Aman
> 
>> On 10/5/13, denise avant  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I am wondering if I have to change any settings to make voice dream
>> while
>> using the Samantha voice read all of the text from start to finish? Can
>> anyone advise? Thank you
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Looking for an accessible card reading app

[Beth G]

Here is what I use and like:
I just found a great iPhone app that I think you'll enjoy. It's called 
Horoscope Pro! I hope you enjoy it! It's a great Horoscope app. Daily, Weekly, 
Monthly horoscopes. Chinese Horoscopes, Dreambook. Love and Friendship 
Matchers. And more: http://buzlylabs.com/horoscope/


Sent from my iPhone

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jen,
> 
> check out Mystics on my Hip. It is a cool little app which offers you four 
> different readings.
> 
> • A runes reading
> 
> • I Ching
> 
> • 3 card Tarot reading
> 
> • Fortune Cookie  (fortune and lucky numbers)
> 
> Personally I like the Tarot reading. It is simple, using three cards for 
> past, present and future and is accessible. It tells you the card, whether it 
> is inverted or not, and gives you a short description of each card.
> 
> it is not in-depth by any means but it is a cute fun lil app! :)
> 
> I'm curious which app you use now?
> 
> Anyway, hope you dig this one and here's the linkie!
> 
> Mystics on myHIP by myHIP.com
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mystics-on-myhip/id297869336?mt=8
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Oct 5, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Jen Colley  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I use a horoscope app to read that info but I’m also wondering an app that is 
> accessible with voice over that will read your terro card reading and other 
> cool stuff like fortunes. 
> Does anyone know of an app that will do all this? 
> Jen 
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Re: Looking for an accessible card reading app

[Beth G]

Thanks. I am anxious to try this.  I use a horiscope app but need to look at 
the exact name and developer 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jen,
> 
> check out Mystics on my Hip. It is a cool little app which offers you four 
> different readings.

> • A runes reading
> 
> • I Ching
> 
> • 3 card Tarot reading
> 
> • Fortune Cookie  (fortune and lucky numbers)
> 
> Personally I like the Tarot reading. It is simple, using three cards for 
> past, present and future and is accessible. It tells you the card, whether it 
> is inverted or not, and gives you a short description of each card.
> 
> it is not in-depth by any means but it is a cute fun lil app! :)
> 
> I'm curious which app you use now?
> 
> Anyway, hope you dig this one and here's the linkie!
> 
> Mystics on myHIP by myHIP.com
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mystics-on-myhip/id297869336?mt=8
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Oct 5, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Jen Colley  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I use a horoscope app to read that info but I’m also wondering an app that is 
> accessible with voice over that will read your terro card reading and other 
> cool stuff like fortunes. 
> Does anyone know of an app that will do all this? 
> Jen 
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RE: BLUETOOTH STEREO HEADPHONES!!!

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Anthony,

Bose has a set, but they are very expensive, but I love them.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

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Subject: BLUETOOTH STEREO HEADPHONES!!!



Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!  Hi Everyone;

I'd like to get a set of Bluetooth stereo headphones.

I think Motorola make a set and the model is the S11.

Am I correct?

And, are their any others?

Thanks
Anthony

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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi,

I very much agree with Cara. This should be taken up with Apple. I don't doubt 
that the iPhone 4 might have some difficulty running iOS 7. Apple does have 
second to none customer service. I bet they will find a way to help.

Robert Carter
On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:13 PM, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:

> Well, the problem is the IOs 7  is making the phone very slow, and is very 
> hard to work on this device, since IOs 7 appeared. If IOs 7  didn't make my 
> iPhone 4  so slow, probably I would not been saying anything. But use an 
> iPhone 4  who takes 22 seconds to open settings, and if I go to mail, 
> contacts, , it takes 14 more seconds to open that part in settings. Is 
> very annoying work like this. I don't care if apple wants to keep updated 
> every body. But the update should not became our devices in devices very hard 
> to be use, or devices that are becoming in unusable devices due the last 
> update.
> Those cases that you explained to us, sound very nice, but if I  don't want 
> to install an update, apple has not right to fill my iPhone memory. It is the 
> memory of my iPhone, no the memory of apple's iPhone. So I paid it, and it is 
> my.
> You know, property rights. If I want to put my iPhone under a drill, it is my 
> iPhone, and I am able to do with it, what ever I want. If I want to put my 
> iPhone inside the pool, it is my iPhone, and I am able to do what ever I want 
> with my iPhone. But apple doesn't have rights to download anything in the 
> memory of my iPhone without my permission. Apple doesn't have right to push 
> me to install an operated system that makes my iPhone so slow, and with 
> bunches of bugs. They don't have rights on my property.
> you know, property rights.
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: ROBERT CARTER
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to address this issue from a historical perspective.
> 
> Since it was founded back in 1976, Apple has always been about moving forward 
> even if that meant canabilizing its own product line. We saw it when they 
> moved from the Apple II to the Mac. Again when they replaced an extremely 
> successful top selling iPod with the iPod Nano.
> 
> Each time a new version of OS X or iOS is released, the previous version is 
> unavailable by the very next day on every piece of hardware that is for sale 
> in an Apple store. Apple moves forward leaving the earlier OS behind.
> 
> If, for whatever reason, you choose to stay with an older version there will 
> always be a price to pay. Stick with Snow Leopard and you will not have 
> iCloud. Stick with iOS 6 and you will have 3 GB less space on your device. 
> Apple wants all of its customers to run the latest version. They are about 
> moving forward. Apple has never apologized for pushing out the latest 
> operating system. It is at the core of Apple's DNA. People who don't 
> understand this don't have a good understanding of Apple's philosophy. This 
> is understandable given that so many people have recently come to Apple 
> devices.
> 
> This approach is extremely successful with the majority already having 
> upgraded to iOS 7. Of course there are bugs but most of us find the 
> advantages outweigh the disadvantages of using the current operating system. 
> Since Apple wants its customers to keep buying products, it will fix the bugs.
> 
> A willingness to move forward or an acceptance  that one pays the price for 
> choosing not to do so is just the way it works. No amount of complaining will 
> change this reality.
> 
> If you decide that 3 GB of space is to much of a price to pay for staying 
> with iOS 6, you could upgrade or you could switch to Android. They, 
> unfortunately, have the opposite problem where many devices cannot or are not 
> allowed to run the latest version of the OS. Like with Apple, this reality is 
> just the way it is. No amount of complaining will change it.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that the 
>> automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should force on 
>> people even though it is also not new since they did the same with iOS 5 and 
>> iOS 6.
>> Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:
>> People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update 
>> takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have 
>> maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn’t leave you with 
>> much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t really fill your device with 
>> music and only use storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or 
>> pictures, then you probably have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case 
>> it’s a mute point if half of that space is used up by the update since 
>> chances are you won’t run out of 

Re: NFB Newsline Login Difficulties

[Anisio Correia]

I, too, am not experencing any problems with the NFB Newsline mobile app using 
iOS 7 on my iPhone 5.

Anisio Correia
Atlanta, Georgia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Robert stigile  wrote:
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> hi
> I don't have any issues 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I may have to contact NFB Newsline support about this issue, but thought I'd 
>> check reading my with you all to see if anyone has had any recent problems 
>> logging into NFB Newsline using the NFB papersNewsline app on IOS 7. I just 
>> installed the NFB Newsline app on my iPhone 5S and I know that I've entered 
>> my credentials correctly, but I still get errors when trying to log in.  Has 
>> anybody run across this issue recently? If you have had problems and were 
>> able to resolve them, all suggestions are welcome.  
>>  
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> Tom
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Re: siri and relationships

[Christina C.]

Yes, I have this same problem. It will ask me which husband.

Christina

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Re: questions about mail

[Christopher Chaltain]

To get the delete button to show up instead of the archive button, go 
into Settings -> Mail, contacts, Calendars and double tap on the account 
you set up. Double tap on the account again and then on the advanced 
button. Now make sure the setting for where to send discarded messages 
is the deleted folder and not the archived folder.


On 10/06/2013 01:46 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Hi all.
I have here some questions about the mail utility in IOs 7.
1. By default, arcade is on, Where or how can it turn off? I need the
button for delete emails.
2. I can't fine where is where we specify how many emails appear on the
screen. I mean, how many emails can be listed in the screen. I have just
50, but I need it for more emails.
Thanks
Pablo

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Cara Quinn]

HI Eileen,

iExplorer is an app which runs on your Mac, which allows you to see your 
phone's file system and move files to and from it.

My thought was that perhaps it might allow people to remove the unwanted OS 
download from their phone to free up the space they need. Now, I have no idea 
whether this will work but I thought I'd just put it out there for people.

Here's a linkie…

http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/?gclid=CK-W6q2Fg7oCFetxQgodBXQAcA

Hope this helps some.

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

Eileen

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Re: Pairing a braille note apex with an iPhone

[Alex Stone]

Thanks, that's what I thought, but it kept telling me I hadn't done it quick 
enough, I guess I'll just have to keep trying!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Oct 2013, at 20:43, Joseph Lee  wrote:
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> Hi,
> It is four zero's ().
> Cheers,
> Joseph
> 
> 
>> On 10/6/13, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What pin do I type into my iPhone when I want to pair it with my braille
>> note apex, no pin is displayed on the phone.Sent from my iPhone
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Moderator Note -was- Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Pablo,

I don't usually offer directed mod notes, but in this case, I'd just like to 
suggest a few things.

Firstly, I'm keeping this on-list as I'd like to state for the record, that I 
agree with you here. So to the list, regardless of your thoughts on Pablo and 
his complaints, I agree with him. -And I'd go further to say that rather than 
call his sentiments ridiculous or whatever names people had for them earlier 
this week, let me remind you all that we don't do name-calling here.

I don't care what your feelings about someone's posts are. There's never an 
excuse here for name-calling. Know what I mean?

You don't need to agree with people, but don't ever disrespect them here. K? 
Thanks! :)

So now on to my other points.

Pablo, it sounds like you're really having serious issues with the performance 
of your iPhone 4 with iOS 7. So I'd suggest that now it's time to talk to Apple 
more closely on this one. I think this list has probably given as much feedback 
on this particular situation as it can possibly give.

So have you considered finding an Apple Store close to you? Perhaps it might 
help you get some piece of mind if you can speak with an Apple employee 
directly. Maybe they can also offer you some suggestions to help you that this 
list may not know.

I know you've already spoken with Apple tech support so that would also be 
another option to follow up with once again.

I know that we all here want each other to have very cool and nicely-working 
devices so we can not only be productive but also enjoy using them. As you say, 
you paid good money for your iDevice and I absolutely agree with and support 
you, that you should have something to show for that. You should have something 
that is not only meeting your needs each day, but something that is also 
bringing joy to your life! :) Know what I mean? if we can't have that, then 
what's the point, right? :)

So again, let me suggest that you now direct your energies into getting in 
touch more closely with Apple and really explaining to them all of your 
concerns and issues you may have, so that you can find some resolution on this. 
What do you think?

Kudos to you for really explaining and sharing your experiences here and also 
for doing this in a way that is maintaining a positive discussion. Yes, you 
have rights and you may have some issues right now. So now it is time to 
continue sharing those with Apple. They are the ones now, who can offer you the 
real help you need…

If you can, please do also consider sharing your experiences when you do take 
this up with Apple further, if you would? Thanks so much! :)

Have an awesome day and talk with you soon!

Smiles,

Cara :)


On Oct 6, 2013, at 12:13 PM, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:

Well, the problem is the IOs 7  is making the phone very slow, and is very hard 
to work on this device, since IOs 7 appeared. If IOs 7  didn't make my iPhone 4 
 so slow, probably I would not been saying anything. But use an iPhone 4  who 
takes 22 seconds to open settings, and if I go to mail, contacts, , it 
takes 14 more seconds to open that part in settings. Is very annoying work like 
this. I don't care if apple wants to keep updated every body. But the update 
should not became our devices in devices very hard to be use, or devices that 
are becoming in unusable devices due the last update.
Those cases that you explained to us, sound very nice, but if I  don't want to 
install an update, apple has not right to fill my iPhone memory. It is the 
memory of my iPhone, no the memory of apple's iPhone. So I paid it, and it is 
my.
You know, property rights. If I want to put my iPhone under a drill, it is my 
iPhone, and I am able to do with it, what ever I want. If I want to put my 
iPhone inside the pool, it is my iPhone, and I am able to do what ever I want 
with my iPhone. But apple doesn't have rights to download anything in the 
memory of my iPhone without my permission. Apple doesn't have right to push me 
to install an operated system that makes my iPhone so slow, and with bunches of 
bugs. They don't have rights on my property.
you know, property rights.
 
 
- Original Message -
From: ROBERT CARTER
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

Hi,

I would like to address this issue from a historical perspective.

Since it was founded back in 1976, Apple has always been about moving forward 
even if that meant canabilizing its own product line. We saw it when they moved 
from the Apple II to the Mac. Again when they replaced an extremely successful 
top selling iPod with the iPod Nano.

Each time a new version of OS X or iOS is released, the previous version is 
unavailable by the very next day on every piece of hardware that is for sale in 
an Apple store. Apple moves forward leaving the earlier OS behind.

If, for whatever reason, you choose to stay with an older version there will 
always be a pric

Re: Pairing a braille note apex with an iPhone

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
It is four zero's ().
Cheers,
Joseph


On 10/6/13, Alex Stone  wrote:
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> note apex, no pin is displayed on the phone.Sent from my iPhone
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Pairing a braille note apex with an iPhone

[Alex Stone]

What pin do I type into my iPhone when I want to pair it with my braille note 
apex, no pin is displayed on the phone.Sent from my iPhone

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Re: voice dream and drop box

[Brett]

Hi,

You first have to go in to settings, tap on Dropbox and enter your dropbox 
details. After you have done this, Dropbox will show up in the add window. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

> On 6 Oct 2013, at 11:33 pm, Cait and Maggie  wrote:
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> How do I get a book from my drop box into voice dream?  I don't see an option 
> for drop box under the "add" option..
> 
> thanks,
> Cait
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Re: VO sounds

[Cara Quinn]

Hi shane,

I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked with my 
mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to toggle the sounds 
off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, I could simply flip the 
mute switch.

For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want that actually 
to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now there are a whole other 
set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since we're on the subject, I'd also 
wish I could have my VoiceOver speech obey the mute switch as well.

For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm glad that 
people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd prefer it to obey the 
mute setting. Sometimes having more settings just to have more settings is not 
always a desirable or sane thing to do. :)

Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I won't make 
that mistake again. :)

Just my thoughts…

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark  wrote:

Hi all,
So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds on/off? I 
currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds turned off, so 
I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of used to hearing both the 
iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so I am more or less trying to play 
around with the different settings.
What do you think of these settings, and how do you prefer to have your phone 
set?
Thanks.  

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iTunes Radio

[Dawn Petty]

thanks, so you do have to create an artist first.  you can’t do an edit from 
the jandre stations

From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

You can create a mixed station very easily in iTunes Radio. Start by creating a 
station based on one artist. Then edit the station, and you'll be able to add 
as many artists, genres or songs as you like. It's a fantastic interface.

Jonathan Mosen
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On 29/09/2013, at 2:30 PM, Dawn Petty  wrote:


  but they have no way to mix stations like pandora does.


  -Original Message- From: Liz And Sammie
  Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

  I love iTunes radio. I tried using iTunes radio on the PC, but I had problems 
accessing it. However, it is very accessible on the phone, and that really is 
all that matters to me. You can create your own stations plus the iTunes radio 
has their own stations of different genres. I think it will give Pandora run 
for their money.

  Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


  Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator

  http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
  Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone


On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Chris H  wrote:

Since we cannot use this in the Uk how is your experience so far with it 
particularly on the PC or Mac? I heard an Applevis podcast demonstrating iTunes 
Radio but only in the Music App and I liked what you can do and it seems very 
accessible.
Any comments welcome. Thanks!

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Re: making and receiving calls since the upgrade

[Pablo Morales]

I got in an iPhone 4  a weird issue. another weird issue. When a call comes 
to my iPhone 4, it never says who is calling. Even though, it appear on the 
screen. Looks like The voice over focus is not taking the text of the caller 
ID.
- Original Message - 
From: "Troy Sullivan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: making and receiving calls since the upgrade


Can you please explain in more detail what issues you are having? On my 
4s, the only issue I am having is when receiving calls is the speaker 
phone does not automatically switch to the earpeace when holding the phone 
to your ear. Well it does, but not right away. This is a known issue and 
from what I understand apple is working on this. I'm not sure about the 5 
series as I don't have it.

Other than that I have no other issues with the phone portion.
- Original Message - 
From: "John Gallagher" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 5:18 AM
Subject: making and receiving calls since the upgrade



Hi all,
Since the upgrade my iphone 4 s seems not as good when making and 
receiving calls.
First of all to save lots of battery life I went in to settings, general 
accessability then I checked reduce motion to be on as this saves lots of 
battery life.

found this out from a brilliant podcast look at
www.frequencycast.com
my samsung galaxy s iii is far better when making and receiving calls.
hear in the uk I am with vodafone with my iphone and t mobile on the 
samsung.
wonder if the iphone 5 is better for making and receiving calls after all 
it's meant to be a phone.


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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

[Pablo Morales]

Well, the problem is the IOs 7  is making the phone very slow, and is very hard 
to work on this device, since IOs 7 appeared. If IOs 7  didn't make my iPhone 4 
 so slow, probably I would not been saying anything. But use an iPhone 4  who 
takes 22 seconds to open settings, and if I go to mail, contacts, , it 
takes 14 more seconds to open that part in settings. Is very annoying work like 
this. I don't care if apple wants to keep updated every body. But the update 
should not became our devices in devices very hard to be use, or devices that 
are becoming in unusable devices due the last update.
Those cases that you explained to us, sound very nice, but if I  don't want to 
install an update, apple has not right to fill my iPhone memory. It is the 
memory of my iPhone, no the memory of apple's iPhone. So I paid it, and it is 
my.
You know, property rights. If I want to put my iPhone under a drill, it is my 
iPhone, and I am able to do with it, what ever I want. If I want to put my 
iPhone inside the pool, it is my iPhone, and I am able to do what ever I want 
with my iPhone. But apple doesn't have rights to download anything in the 
memory of my iPhone without my permission. Apple doesn't have right to push me 
to install an operated system that makes my iPhone so slow, and with bunches of 
bugs. They don't have rights on my property.
you know, property rights.


  - Original Message - 
  From: ROBERT CARTER 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations


  Hi,


  I would like to address this issue from a historical perspective.


  Since it was founded back in 1976, Apple has always been about moving forward 
even if that meant canabilizing its own product line. We saw it when they moved 
from the Apple II to the Mac. Again when they replaced an extremely successful 
top selling iPod with the iPod Nano.


  Each time a new version of OS X or iOS is released, the previous version is 
unavailable by the very next day on every piece of hardware that is for sale in 
an Apple store. Apple moves forward leaving the earlier OS behind.


  If, for whatever reason, you choose to stay with an older version there will 
always be a price to pay. Stick with Snow Leopard and you will not have iCloud. 
Stick with iOS 6 and you will have 3 GB less space on your device. Apple wants 
all of its customers to run the latest version. They are about moving forward. 
Apple has never apologized for pushing out the latest operating system. It is 
at the core of Apple's DNA. People who don't understand this don't have a good 
understanding of Apple's philosophy. This is understandable given that so many 
people have recently come to Apple devices.


  This approach is extremely successful with the majority already having 
upgraded to iOS 7. Of course there are bugs but most of us find the advantages 
outweigh the disadvantages of using the current operating system. Since Apple 
wants its customers to keep buying products, it will fix the bugs.


  A willingness to move forward or an acceptance  that one pays the price for 
choosing not to do so is just the way it works. No amount of complaining will 
change this reality.


  If you decide that 3 GB of space is to much of a price to pay for staying 
with iOS 6, you could upgrade or you could switch to Android. They, 
unfortunately, have the opposite problem where many devices cannot or are not 
allowed to run the latest version of the OS. Like with Apple, this reality is 
just the way it is. No amount of complaining will change it.


  Robert Carter




  On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hello,

Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that the 
automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should force on 
people even though it is also not new since they did the same with iOS 5 and 
iOS 6.

Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update 
takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have maybe 
3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn’t leave you with much. If 
you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t really fill your device with music and only 
use storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you 
probably have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it’s a mute point if 
half of that space is used up by the update since chances are you won’t run out 
of space.

If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder what 
happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff from your phone 
to make room for the update, it is my guess that if you went to Software Update 
in General Settings it would have an “Download and Install” option since it 
could not download the update and if you tried it you would be informed that 
there wasn’t enough spa

Re: iTunes Radio

[Lea Langley]

Hi, there is an audio reviewer audio preview of the songs. It's a button. 
Perhaps that is what she was in when the songs cut off. I found it when I was 
trying to create a station. Hope this helps God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I haven't either. How much is cutting off? When you're creating a station, 
> and you are exploring different genres, you'll get about 15 or 20 second 
> snippets of the songs in that genre, but once you double tap the create 
> station button and access your new station, you get the full songs, at least 
> I do.
> 
>> On 10/06/2013 01:37 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>> Andy, I have not experienced the problem of songs cutting off yet. If it
>> happens, I will let you know.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "Andy Baracco" > > wrote:
>> 
>>> my wife was listening to iTunes radio last night, and she said that
>>> songs would cut off before they finished playing. How do you make it
>>> so you can hear songs all the way through?
>>> Andy
>>> *From:* Eric Whitten 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:59 AM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: iTunes Radio
>>> I use itunes radio more then pandora now. I use pandora for comedy,
>>> since itunes radio does not have comedy. I use it more for music. i
>>> listen to a lot of old school r&B. I think itunes radio is awesome. I
>>> think it is also good to have compitition as far as radio streaming
>>> services go.
>>> Eric Whitten
>>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
 This is due to the agreements Apple has been able to make with the
 music companies, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in the US.
 If you use iTunes Match, you'll get more skips per hour than if you
 don't, but contrary to the conventional wisdom before iTunes Radio's
 release, you don't get unlimited skips. Subscribing to iTunes Match
 also makes iTunes Radio ad free.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org 
 On 3/10/2013, at 2:50 AM, Alan Paganelli
 mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>>
 wrote:
 
> I have found that if I hit the next button to move to the next song,
> you will reach a point where you can't move forward through the
> songs being played and the forward button goes dimmed. Going back
> several songs will then activate the next button again but only
> those few songs so, it does appear that there is a limit on the
> number of times you can jump forward. I'd suspect that the same
> would hold true in reverse.
> ---
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
> 
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
> now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
> everything.
> 
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> 
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
> played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
> formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
> listening!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn"  >
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
> 
> 
>> HI Rose and All,
>> 
>> Try this;
>> 
>> Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured
>> Stations Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area
>> you find, and interact with it as well.
>> 
>> Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to
>> navigate the stations. I've found that though many of them say
>> dimmed, when you navigate back through them once again, they will
>> read properly. This seems like it may be a VO issue.
>> 
>> Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)
>> 
>> Have a great night!
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the
>> problem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
>> 
>> Hi Rose,
>> I see probably the same four stations oasyou. 

Re: NFB Newsline Login Difficulties

[Robert stigile]

hi
I don't have any issues 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I may have to contact NFB Newsline support about this issue, but thought I'd 
> check reading my with you all to see if anyone has had any recent problems 
> logging into NFB Newsline using the NFB papersNewsline app on IOS 7. I just 
> installed the NFB Newsline app on my iPhone 5S and I know that I've entered  
> my credentials correctly, but I still get errors when trying to log in.  Has 
> anybody run across this issue recently? If you have had problems and were 
> able to resolve them, all suggestions are welcome.  
>  
> Thanks in advance. 
> Tom
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VO sounds

[Shane clark]

Hi all,
So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds on/off? I 
currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds turned off, so 
I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of used to hearing both the 
iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so I am more or less trying to play 
around with the different settings.
What do you think of these settings, and how do you prefer to have your phone 
set?
Thanks.  

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Re: making and receiving calls since the upgrade

[Chris H]

Having no issues making and receiving calls on my iPhone 4s with O2. 
Could be a Vodafone thing.


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On 05/10/2013 10:18, John Gallagher wrote:

Hi all,
Since the upgrade my iphone 4 s seems not as good when making and
receiving calls.
First of all to save lots of battery life I went in to settings, general
accessability then I checked reduce motion to be on as this saves lots
of battery life.
found this out from a brilliant podcast look at
www.frequencycast.com
my samsung galaxy s iii is far better when making and receiving calls.
hear in the uk I am with vodafone with my iphone and t mobile on the
samsung.
wonder if the iphone 5 is better for making and receiving calls after
all it's meant to be a phone.



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questions about mail

[Pablo Morales]

Hi all.
I have here some questions about the mail utility in IOs 7.
1. By default, arcade is on, Where or how can it turn off? I need the button 
for delete emails.
2. I can't fine where is where we specify how many emails appear on the screen. 
I mean, how many emails can be listed in the screen. I have just 50, but I need 
it for more emails.
Thanks
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Re: iTunes Radio

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven't either. How much is cutting off? When you're creating a 
station, and you are exploring different genres, you'll get about 15 or 
20 second snippets of the songs in that genre, but once you double tap 
the create station button and access your new station, you get the full 
songs, at least I do.


On 10/06/2013 01:37 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:

Andy, I have not experienced the problem of songs cutting off yet. If it
happens, I will let you know.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "Andy Baracco" mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:


my wife was listening to iTunes radio last night, and she said that
songs would cut off before they finished playing. How do you make it
so you can hear songs all the way through?
Andy
*From:* Eric Whitten 
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:59 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: iTunes Radio
I use itunes radio more then pandora now. I use pandora for comedy,
since itunes radio does not have comedy. I use it more for music. i
listen to a lot of old school r&B. I think itunes radio is awesome. I
think it is also good to have compitition as far as radio streaming
services go.
 Eric Whitten
On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:


This is due to the agreements Apple has been able to make with the
music companies, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in the US.
If you use iTunes Match, you'll get more skips per hour than if you
don't, but contrary to the conventional wisdom before iTunes Radio's
release, you don't get unlimited skips. Subscribing to iTunes Match
also makes iTunes Radio ad free.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org 
On 3/10/2013, at 2:50 AM, Alan Paganelli
mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>>
wrote:


I have found that if I hit the next button to move to the next song,
you will reach a point where you can't move forward through the
songs being played and the forward button goes dimmed. Going back
several songs will then activate the next button again but only
those few songs so, it does appear that there is a limit on the
number of times you can jump forward. I'd suspect that the same
would hold true in reverse.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/

There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
listening!

- Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" mailto:modelc...@gmail.com>>
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio



HI Rose and All,

Try this;

Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured
Stations Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area
you find, and interact with it as well.

Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to
navigate the stations. I've found that though many of them say
dimmed, when you navigate back through them once again, they will
read properly. This seems like it may be a VO issue.

Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)

Have a great night!

Cara :)
On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the
problem.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac,
interacting
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, "Rose Combs" mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set
I assume.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured
stations.
This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at
the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre
or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can
double tap on the create new station button and then it'l

Re: iTunes Radio

[Les Kriegler]

Andy, I have not experienced the problem of songs cutting off yet. If it 
happens, I will let you know.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "Andy Baracco"  wrote:
> 
> my wife was listening to iTunes radio last night, and she said that songs 
> would cut off before they finished playing. How do you make it so you can 
> hear songs all the way through?
>  
> Andy
>  
> From: Eric Whitten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
> I use itunes radio more then pandora now. I use pandora for comedy, since 
> itunes radio does not have comedy. I use it more for music. i listen to a lot 
> of old school r&B. I think itunes radio is awesome. I think it is also good 
> to have compitition as far as radio streaming services go.
>  
>  Eric Whitten
>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> 
>> This is due to the agreements Apple has been able to make with the music 
>> companies, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in the US. If you use 
>> iTunes Match, you'll get more skips per hour than if you don't, but contrary 
>> to the conventional wisdom before iTunes Radio's release, you don't get 
>> unlimited skips. Subscribing to iTunes Match also makes iTunes Radio ad free.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>>  
>>> On 3/10/2013, at 2:50 AM, Alan Paganelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have found that if I hit the next button to move to the next song, you 
>>> will reach a point where you can't move forward through the songs being 
>>> played and the forward button goes dimmed.  Going back several songs will 
>>> then activate the next button again but only those few songs so, it does 
>>> appear that there is a limit on the number of times you can jump forward. 
>>> I'd suspect that the same would hold true in reverse.
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>> 
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>> 
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for  listening!
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
>>> 
>>> 
 HI Rose and All,
 
 Try this;
 
 Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured Stations 
 Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area you find, and 
 interact with it as well.
 
 Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to navigate 
 the stations. I've found that though many of them say dimmed, when you 
 navigate back through them once again, they will read properly. This seems 
 like it may be a VO issue.
 
 Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)
 
 Have a great night!
 
 Cara :)
 On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
 
 Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the 
 problem.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 Hi Rose,
 I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
 with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:
> 
> I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set
> I assume.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
> 
> When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations.
> This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at
> the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre
> or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can
> double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up
> beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.
> 
>> On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
>> All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi
>> something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not
>> found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't li

NFB Newsline Login Difficulties

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I may have to contact NFB Newsline support about this issue, but thought I'd 
check with you all to see if anyone has had any recent problems logging into 
NFB Newsline using the NFB Newsline app on IOS 7. I just installed the NFB 
Newsline app on my iPhone 5S and I know that I've entered my credentials 
correctly, but I still get errors when trying to log in.  Has anybody run 
across this issue recently? If you have had problems and were able to resolve 
them, all suggestions are welcome.  

Thanks in advance.  
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RE: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

[DJ]

I wonder if my suggestion below would help those who are still having the
problem.

Make sure that the setting to change the volume with the buttons is turned
on.
without VO speaking, press the volume down button repeatedly until you hear
no more sound.  You may not be able to hear VO at this point when you touch
the screen.
Do whatever you must to make VO speak again and while VO is speaking
repeatedly press the volume up button to the desired level.
You may at this point still need to increase the other sound volume using
the volume buttons.

DJ


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Phillip Tracy
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

This is also a problem for me.  Can't get the volume up to a reasonable 
level, but all other sounds and VO sounds are distortingly loud.  The voice 
volume will not raise.

Phillip Tracy

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

Hi Recardo, the method you outline does work, but the volume ratio between
Voiceover and the other sounds on the phone is way off.
In other words, the overall volume of the phone is increased, but by the
time you get to where Voiceover is at a comfortable  volume for listening,
other sounds, such as sounds that voiceover makes, are jarringly loud.
Honest, when this happens, the volume of Voiceover cannot be increased above
35% in the rotor.
>From what I have read on various forums, this is a known bug with the 5 S, I
don't know if it is with all 5S's, with no resolution except to reset all
settings to restore the correct Voiceover functionality,, which is quite
unreasonable in my view.
Thanks.



-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:46 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

Hi,

doesn't doing a 2 finger flick up to start VO reading, then pressing the up
volume on the phone turn up the Speech volume?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:

> The only way I could fix the 35% volume problem was to go into settings, 
> General, Reset, Reset all Settings.
>
> This fixed the problem, but only for a day or two, and it happened again.
> I don't know if this effects all 5S's, but to me, this is a truly hideous 
> and horrible bug that makes the phone very difficult to use in some cases.
>
> From: Tom Lange
> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S
>
> Hi,
> I just bought a 5s this afternoon and have been setting it up.  I got the 
> high-quality voice going, then started messing around with the rotor, 
> sound volume, VO volume and so on.  I seem to have gotten things messed up

> so that when I turn the rotor to volume, I can't get the VO volume past 35

> percent. I powered down the phone and restarted it, but the problem still 
> persists.  I remember seeing something about a similar issue a few days 
> back but don't recall what the solution is, if any.  Any tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
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Re: iTunes Radio

[Andy Baracco]

my wife was listening to iTunes radio last night, and she said that songs would 
cut off before they finished playing. How do you make it so you can hear songs 
all the way through?

Andy

From: Eric Whitten 
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
I use itunes radio more then pandora now. I use pandora for comedy, since 
itunes radio does not have comedy. I use it more for music. i listen to a lot 
of old school r&B. I think itunes radio is awesome. I think it is also good to 
have compitition as far as radio streaming services go. 

 Eric Whitten

On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:


  This is due to the agreements Apple has been able to make with the music 
companies, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in the US. If you use 
iTunes Match, you'll get more skips per hour than if you don't, but contrary to 
the conventional wisdom before iTunes Radio's release, you don't get unlimited 
skips. Subscribing to iTunes Match also makes iTunes Radio ad free. 
  Jonathan Mosen
  Mosen Consulting
  Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
  http://Mosen.org

  On 3/10/2013, at 2:50 AM, Alan Paganelli  wrote:


I have found that if I hit the next button to move to the next song, you 
will reach a point where you can't move forward through the songs being played 
and the forward button goes dimmed.  Going back several songs will then 
activate the next button again but only those few songs so, it does appear that 
there is a limit on the number of times you can jump forward. I'd suspect that 
the same would hold true in reverse.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio



  HI Rose and All,

  Try this;

  Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured Stations 
Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area you find, and 
interact with it as well.

  Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to navigate 
the stations. I've found that though many of them say dimmed, when you navigate 
back through them once again, they will read properly. This seems like it may 
be a VO issue.

  Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)

  Have a great night!

  Cara :)
  On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:

  Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the 
problem.



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Mary Otten
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

  Hi Rose,
  I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
  with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
  Mary


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:


I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set
I assume.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations.
This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at
the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre
or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can
double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up
beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.

On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:

  All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi
  something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not
  found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like
  music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.

  I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I
  think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.


  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
  Behalf Of Penny Golden
  

Re: ESPN APP.

[Andy Baracco]

There are several ESPN apps, but I don't think there is one that is just 
called ESPN. Exactly, what is it that you want to do with the app. If you 
just want to watch the games that are carried on ESPN, perhaps Watch ESPN is 
the one that you want.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Noseworthy

Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ESPN APP.

Hi Folks:

I am looking for the ESPN app but, for the life of me, I can't find it.
I find everything else concerning ESPN but not the app itself. Any help
would be appreciated all over the place.

Thanks.

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Re: Opening search on iPhone with braille display

[David Chittenden]

Dots 3 4 5 6 chord is the three finger flick down command on the braille 
display. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Oct 2013, at 9:29, Anisio Correia  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Is there a way to open spotlight search on the iPhone via the braille 
> display? Each time I need to search something, I need to do a 3-finger swipe 
> down on the iphone.  It would be great if I could activate the command from 
> my braille display.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Anisio Correia
> Atlanta, Georgia
> 
> Sent from my iPhon
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RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Cara, 

I just want clarification of iExplorer. My logical brain would indicate that
iExplorer would give me an idea of which apps and resources are using more
data? Please explain and if the app is VO accessible. I am new to all of
this. 

Thanks. 

Eileen 

-Original Message-
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Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

For Mac users, there is an app called iExplorer, which allows you to look at
the folder structure of your iPhone.

Not sure if this would do any better, but just a thought. :)

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? Does
the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc space
so that an app such as this might be able to clean it out? I have the app,
but I don't have a device with iOS 7 pending on it.

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On 10/6/2013 8:36 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
> Raul, anybody is saying that IOs 7 install by itself. That every body 
> is saying that IOs 7 is downloading by itself, filling space memory in 
> our devices. The way to empty this space, is installing IOs 7, because 
> is no way to delete the data downloaded by itself. Is true that we 
> have to agree for the instalation, but apple never asked about 
> agreement to download and fill memory space in our devices.
> .
> - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing 
> iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
>> Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not 
>> complaining about . I don't believe there is a way this can be 
>> done without the user's knowledge or on purpose intervention. Not 
>> only do you have to tap the install button, you have to tap agree, 
>> and then agree a second time. Of course with Voice Over, it's double 
>> tap. After that, the phone goes quiet during the installation process 
>> and eventually reboots using iOS 7 and you are asked to continue and 
>> that's the part which shows up in many different languages. So, none 
>> of this is automagic. I have yet to read a real case situation where 
>> this has happened to someone. Also, I think it would be all over the 
>> news if it had. So, I think we are safe from the big bad Apple 
>> downloading and installing iOS 7 without our consent. Downloading it 
>> yes, installing it, no.
>> 
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>> drink?." The bartender says, "For you, no charge". Bazinga - Sheldon 
>> Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>> 
>> On 10/4/2013 9:08 AM, Neal Ewers wrote:
>>> Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple 
>>> would load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or 
>>> other buttons as well? To hear people tell it, this magically 
>>> happens in the night with no knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we 
>>> lay this one to rest at last, but then I think that's what your 
>>> previous message actually did. I was just curious if this had 
>>> actually happened to anyone though I cannot think that it has.
>>> 
>>> Neal
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now 
>>> forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>>> 
>>> Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it 
>>> half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty 
>>> thinker?
>>> It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of 
>>> a half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but 
>>> seriously dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that 
>>> is true, then why did you update? I'm not talking about the fact 
>>> that Apple downloaded the iOS on your phone to be ready, I'm talking 
>>> about your willingness to choose to instal, choose to agree to the 
>>> terms that I bet you didn't read, and then choose to use iOS7. Apple 
>>> didn't force your fingers to tap the install and the agree button. 
>>> And in face, there are two agree buttons just to make sure. So, my 
>>> friend, you had a choice to upgrade. Now live with it.
>>> if this
>>> sounds harsh, so be it. If you look at the glass as half-full you 
>>> will see that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does have a lot of nice things 
>>> to offer.
>>> Also,
>>> the bugs will get worked out given some time. yes, Apple may have 
>>> pushed it o

Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Ricardo and Jim,

I can confirm the volume not going above 35% once you turn it down below that 
number.  Jim I did as you, I reset everything to default and went through the 
unpleasant experience of resetting my iPhone.  But I think I have everything 
back the way I want it.  It took a good hour to accomplish this task, but it's 
done!

Les
On Oct 6, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> doesn’t doing a 2 finger flick up to start VO reading, then pressing the up 
> volume on the phone turn up the Speech volume?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
> 
>> The only way I could fix the 35% volume problem was to go into settings, 
>> General, Reset, Reset all Settings.
>> 
>> This fixed the problem, but only for a day or two, and it happened again.
>> I don’t know if this effects all 5S’s, but to me, this is a truly hideous 
>> and horrible bug that makes the phone very difficult to use in some cases.  
>> 
>> From: Tom Lange
>> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I just bought a 5s this afternoon and have been setting it up.  I got the 
>> high-quality voice going, then started messing around with the rotor, sound 
>> volume, VO volume and so on.  I seem to have gotten things messed up so that 
>> when I turn the rotor to volume, I can't get the VO volume past 35 percent. 
>> I powered down the phone and restarted it, but the problem still persists.  
>> I remember seeing something about a similar issue a few days back but don't 
>> recall what the solution is, if any.  Any tips?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
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Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

[Teresa Cochran]

I've had this problem occasionally on both my iPod touches 4 and 5. What I do 
is get everything going, like have VO start reading the apps on the home 
screen, then turn the volume buttons down to the point where I can't hear 
anything, then back up again. This seems to reset all the volume levels.

HtH,
Teresa
On Oct 6, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Ah!
> 
> I see.  I was hoping when the system sounds reached maxium volume, Voiceover 
> volume would keep increasing until the ratio was better balance.  Sorry to 
> hear this didn’t work.  The issue with the Voiceover Volume stuck on 35% 
> seems to be only on the 5s.  I’m not having this problem on my iPad mini or 
> iPhone 5. 
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Recardo, the method you outline does work, but the volume ratio between 
>> Voiceover and the other sounds on the phone is way off.
>> In other words, the overall volume of the phone is increased, but by the 
>> time you get to where Voiceover is at a comfortable  volume for listening, 
>> other sounds, such as sounds that voiceover makes, are jarringly loud.
>> Honest, when this happens, the volume of Voiceover cannot be increased above 
>> 35% in the rotor.
>> From what I have read on various forums, this is a known bug with the 5 S, I 
>> don't know if it is with all 5S's, with no resolution except to reset all 
>> settings to restore the correct Voiceover functionality,, which is quite 
>> unreasonable in my view.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
>> Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:46 AM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> doesn’t doing a 2 finger flick up to start VO reading, then pressing the up 
>> volume on the phone turn up the Speech volume?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
>> 
>>> The only way I could fix the 35% volume problem was to go into settings, 
>>> General, Reset, Reset all Settings.
>>> 
>>> This fixed the problem, but only for a day or two, and it happened again.
>>> I don’t know if this effects all 5S’s, but to me, this is a truly hideous 
>>> and horrible bug that makes the phone very difficult to use in some cases.
>>> 
>>> From: Tom Lange
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:22 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I just bought a 5s this afternoon and have been setting it up.  I got the 
>>> high-quality voice going, then started messing around with the rotor, sound 
>>> volume, VO volume and so on.  I seem to have gotten things messed up so 
>>> that when I turn the rotor to volume, I can't get the VO volume past 35 
>>> percent. I powered down the phone and restarted it, but the problem still 
>>> persists.  I remember seeing something about a similar issue a few days 
>>> back but don't recall what the solution is, if any.  Any tips?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
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Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

[Phillip Tracy]

This is also a problem for me.  Can't get the volume up to a reasonable 
level, but all other sounds and VO sounds are distortingly loud.  The voice 
volume will not raise.


Phillip Tracy

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Fettgather

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

Hi Recardo, the method you outline does work, but the volume ratio between
Voiceover and the other sounds on the phone is way off.
In other words, the overall volume of the phone is increased, but by the
time you get to where Voiceover is at a comfortable  volume for listening,
other sounds, such as sounds that voiceover makes, are jarringly loud.
Honest, when this happens, the volume of Voiceover cannot be increased above
35% in the rotor.

From what I have read on various forums, this is a known bug with the 5 S, I

don't know if it is with all 5S's, with no resolution except to reset all
settings to restore the correct Voiceover functionality,, which is quite
unreasonable in my view.
Thanks.



-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker

Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:46 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

Hi,

doesn’t doing a 2 finger flick up to start VO reading, then pressing the up
volume on the phone turn up the Speech volume?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:

The only way I could fix the 35% volume problem was to go into settings, 
General, Reset, Reset all Settings.


This fixed the problem, but only for a day or two, and it happened again.
I don’t know if this effects all 5S’s, but to me, this is a truly hideous 
and horrible bug that makes the phone very difficult to use in some cases.


From: Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

Hi,
I just bought a 5s this afternoon and have been setting it up.  I got the 
high-quality voice going, then started messing around with the rotor, 
sound volume, VO volume and so on.  I seem to have gotten things messed up 
so that when I turn the rotor to volume, I can't get the VO volume past 35 
percent. I powered down the phone and restarted it, but the problem still 
persists.  I remember seeing something about a similar issue a few days 
back but don't recall what the solution is, if any.  Any tips?


Thanks,

Tom


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Re: Creating folders in iOS 7

[Teresa Cochran]

Hello, Anisio,

Double-tap and hold an app, and move it on top of another one. The screen is 
extremely sensitive on IOS 7 so you might have to try it a few times. Listen 
for the steady tones for several seconds, and then the folder will open. At 
this point, you can change the folder name and move the apps within it, etc.

HtH,
Teresa
On Oct 5, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Anisio Correia  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I can't seem to figure out how to create folders in iOS 7. Apparently, the 
> way I used to do it in previous versions no longer works.
> 
> Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Anisio Correia
> Atlanta, Georgia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Ron Pelletier]

Pablo,

I totally agree with you that Apple has no right to download the IOS on your
equipment without your permission, it was very wrong.  That is one issue.

The next issue is that, you as an individual, don't have to install it until
you have collected all the necessary information to make a decision as to
whether you are ready to install it.  If you installed the IOS 7 on your
iPhone 4 at the very beginning and it is running slower than you expected,
it was your call and this is what you have to live with until they get the
bugs out. I hate to tell you that this could take another month or so if we
go by past performance. I also have to tell you that my iPhone four is a bit
slower, of course, but I accepted that this would happen before I installed
IOS 7 because that was an obvious conclusion. The phone is slower but it is
extremely workable.  

I wish you didn't mix 2 very different issues in the same basket.

Having said all that, this will be my last comment on this subject because
it is getting very old.  Repeating the same thing for the next month until a
fix is available will serve nothing but to annoy other listers. I hope this
topic is put to bed very soon.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 2:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi Ron.
It could happen, because 2 reasons.
1. The IOs is downloaded automatically to the iPhone, without agreement,
without ask, without any warning. Of course, it occupied  space in the
memory, and when we are talking about an iPhone of 16 GB, and iPhone 4 of
16GB, then the space is very important, and the only way to empty that space
that is full with the download of the IOs is just installing the operated
system.
2. I don't know, but when I make an update, I am waiting improvements, no
bugs, not a operated system that works so slow, and operated system that
should be for newer devices, not for devices that has around 4 years. It is
the worse part, the people who has a device of 4 years old, has to update
the operated system, it is a command,  because it is the way to empty the
memory occupied by the IOs download. But at the same way, the new IOs, works
so slow, and with bunches of bugs.
It is the reason why people, like me, didn't have another choice more than
install IOs 7 in the iPhone 4. It could be a way to push the users of iPhone
4 devices to buy new devices.
a good business.
Now, let me ask you something. Ok, we can start from thinking that all new
operated system has bugs. Bugs that are mistakes of the operated system
developer. My question is this. Why the customers has to install, mandatory,
as a, command the new operated systems developed by companies that just send
out new versions of operated system?
Why me as a customer, I have to install the new operated system, why it is a
command, why I have to help apple to improve their IOs, reporting the bugs?
So more than the money that I paid for my device, now they are expecting
from me that I report the bugs and mistakes of their IOs developers?
Why?

- Original Message -
From: "Ron Pelletier" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:51 AM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


> Hi,
>
> My question is: Why are people in such a hurry to download and install 
> a new product?  Isn't it a fact that new software is always buggy? 
> Isn't it true that when a new software comes out, they are not even 
> quite finished taking the bugs out of the old one? Why is it that a 
> lot of big companies are just moving to Windows 7 now?
>
> My suggestion is that, if you want everything perfect, you don't use 
> any high tech device.
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> Getting back up is LIVING...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing 
> iOS
> 6
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>
> Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded.  The rest of those 
> of us who are concerned here either loaded the software and regret it 
> or are waiting and having limited space taken up by whatever got 
> downloaded.
> I'm not at all sure that had I known that I would have trouble 
> entering contacts as has been described on this list, that I would 
> have chosen to buy this phone.  What's easily gotten around by the 
> experienced is not so by a newby.  Now, I came in with my contacts 
> having been transferred from my previous phone.  It's now not as big a 
> deal as it would have been when I was first getting a p

RE: Can't get the picker item to stay in focus when searching the bard website using the app

[DJ]

It is indeed frustrating.  I can't believe this bug wasn't addressed before
the release of the app.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't get the picker item to stay in focus when searching the
bard website using the app

 

It is a bug.

Richard

(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:23 AM, "Jen Colley"  wrote:

Hi,  

I appologize if this was covered but I looked through and didn't see it.  

I have just started to use the bard app.  Last night I was browsing the bard
website within the app.  

I wanted to search for a book by subject so went to that section.  It said
to double tap to activate the picker which I did but I moved my finger up
once to start arrowing through the list and it got to adventure and when I
went up again it bounced me back to the previous link so then flicked right
to get back to the select a subject and double tap to activate the picker
and double tapped and couldn't get the list to appear when I moved my finger
up.  

How do you accomplish this or is this a bug?  

Jen  

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RE: Digit-Eyes and IOS 7

[DJ]

Yes it is still working.  I have no problems with it.

DJ


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Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Digit-Eyes and IOS 7

Hi,

Is this app being supported still.  I tried to use it recently after
updating to IOS 7 but it isn't working.  Anyone still use this app?  Thanks.

Richard
  



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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi,

I would like to address this issue from a historical perspective.

Since it was founded back in 1976, Apple has always been about moving forward 
even if that meant canabilizing its own product line. We saw it when they moved 
from the Apple II to the Mac. Again when they replaced an extremely successful 
top selling iPod with the iPod Nano.

Each time a new version of OS X or iOS is released, the previous version is 
unavailable by the very next day on every piece of hardware that is for sale in 
an Apple store. Apple moves forward leaving the earlier OS behind.

If, for whatever reason, you choose to stay with an older version there will 
always be a price to pay. Stick with Snow Leopard and you will not have iCloud. 
Stick with iOS 6 and you will have 3 GB less space on your device. Apple wants 
all of its customers to run the latest version. They are about moving forward. 
Apple has never apologized for pushing out the latest operating system. It is 
at the core of Apple's DNA. People who don't understand this don't have a good 
understanding of Apple's philosophy. This is understandable given that so many 
people have recently come to Apple devices.

This approach is extremely successful with the majority already having upgraded 
to iOS 7. Of course there are bugs but most of us find the advantages outweigh 
the disadvantages of using the current operating system. Since Apple wants its 
customers to keep buying products, it will fix the bugs.

A willingness to move forward or an acceptance  that one pays the price for 
choosing not to do so is just the way it works. No amount of complaining will 
change this reality.

If you decide that 3 GB of space is to much of a price to pay for staying with 
iOS 6, you could upgrade or you could switch to Android. They, unfortunately, 
have the opposite problem where many devices cannot or are not allowed to run 
the latest version of the OS. Like with Apple, this reality is just the way it 
is. No amount of complaining will change it.

Robert Carter


On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that the 
> automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should force on 
> people even though it is also not new since they did the same with iOS 5 and 
> iOS 6.
>  
> Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:
>  
> People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update takes 
> up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have maybe 3 or 
> 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn’t leave you with much. If 
> you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t really fill your device with music and 
> only use storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you 
> probably have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it’s a mute point 
> if half of that space is used up by the update since chances are you won’t 
> run out of space.
>  
> If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder what 
> happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff from your phone 
> to make room for the update, it is my guess that if you went to Software 
> Update in General Settings it would have an “Download and Install” option 
> since it could not download the update and if you tried it you would be 
> informed that there wasn’t enough space. At that point you would have to take 
> off (un-sync) some music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have 
> on your phone to fill it up should you want to install the update, afterwards 
> you could resync that content.
>  
> So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around. If you 
> have a 16 Gb device and don’t want a new iOS update to download, simply make 
> sure you fill your device with content and only leave maybe less than 2 Gb 
> free for use, this way there is not enough space for the update to download 
> and you are good to go. If you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more 
> then having the just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute 
> point. Should people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple should 
> put something into the Settings which just as you can turn off automatic app 
> updates allows you to turn off automatic iOS update downloads. They could 
> even have this set to On by default since then it’s up to each person who 
> cares enough to not want this to turn it off.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
>  
> a quarter or and have a smaller
> First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via
>  
> is a point, though, regarding space. People complain that if they have .
>  
> OK,
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Re: TapTapSee use for reference material

[Ann Marie Medlar]

I am using IPod4Touch,IOS6. latest version.
When I go to library I want to get about 10 pages from a 500 page reference 
book.  Can I use TapTapSee to take photos of 10 pages store them and then 
access them when I get home?

How do I save pages for future reference?
Any ideas appreciated.
Thanks,
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Re: Track This under IOS 7?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I also needed to change the carrier in Track This using iOS 7, and I was able 
to do it. I think I chose Edit, then the option to edit the package, then a 
button to select a carrier. I double-tapped the correct carrier and chose 
something like Done or Save, and it worked. So I don't think your problem is 
because of iOS 7. Try emptying the app switcher and rebooting the phone. 
HOpefully that will help.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 2, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Donald Moore"  wrote:

> Hi, I just tried to enter a tracking number into the track this app.  It's a
> number that closely resembles a post office tracking number but is, in fact,
> a FedEx number.
> 
> When trying to choose my carrier by double tapping I get that's been
> automatically chosen.  It chooses the post office.  When I go in to edit the
> record, which used to work, it no longer does and I get bounced out of track
> this.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Sorry for the ramble.
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RE: PLANTRONICS BACKBEAT2 BLUETOOTH STEREO HEADPHONES!!!

[DJ]

Press and hold the button on the right ear while you are listening to music
until you hear a beep (probably about 2 seconds).  It is a toggle.

DJ


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Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: PLANTRONICS BACKBEAT2 BLUETOOTH STEREO HEADPHONES!!!

Hi Everyone;

I purchased these headphones last night from Verizon.

But, you can only try them if you purchase them.
I never heard of anything so ridiculous.

Unfortunately, they don't have any bass.

Am I missing an adjustment?

I went into the music EQ and boosted the bass.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Anthony
Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!  

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Re: siri and relationships

[alia robinson]

It does that to me too, puts my name and my husband's name. I am no one's 
husband! 

Alia
On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:36 AM, Negoslav Sabev  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have created relationship for my wife using Syri. Everything went normaly. 
> Later I added her maiden name to her contact. Since then when I use Syri to 
> call her saying "call wife", Syri, she acts funny by asking "wich wife". So 
> how to remove relationship without turn Syri off and back on?

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Cara Quinn]

For Mac users, there is an app called iExplorer, which allows you to look at 
the folder structure of your iPhone.

Not sure if this would do any better, but just a thought. :)

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? Does 
the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc space so 
that an app such as this might be able to clean it out? I have the app, but I 
don't have a device with iOS 7 pending on it.

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On 10/6/2013 8:36 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
> Raul, anybody is saying that IOs 7 install by itself. That every body is
> saying that IOs 7 is downloading by itself, filling space memory in our
> devices. The way to empty this space, is installing IOs 7, because is no
> way to delete the data downloaded by itself. Is true that we have to
> agree for the instalation, but apple never asked about agreement to
> download and fill memory space in our devices.
> .
> - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
> iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
>> Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not
>> complaining about . I don't believe there is a way this can be
>> done without the user's knowledge or on purpose intervention. Not only
>> do you have to tap the install button, you have to tap agree, and then
>> agree a second time. Of course with Voice Over, it's double tap. After
>> that, the phone goes quiet during the installation process and
>> eventually reboots using iOS 7 and you are asked to continue and
>> that's the part which shows up in many different languages. So, none
>> of this is automagic. I have yet to read a real case situation where
>> this has happened to someone. Also, I think it would be all over the
>> news if it had. So, I think we are safe from the big bad Apple
>> downloading and installing iOS 7 without our consent. Downloading it
>> yes, installing it, no.
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> A neutron walks into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a
>> drink?." The bartender says, "For you, no charge". Bazinga - Sheldon
>> Cooper
>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>> 
>> On 10/4/2013 9:08 AM, Neal Ewers wrote:
>>> Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would
>>> load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or other
>>> buttons
>>> as well? To hear people tell it, this magically happens in the night
>>> with no
>>> knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we lay this one to rest at last, but
>>> then I think that's what your previous message actually did. I was just
>>> curious if this had actually happened to anyone though I cannot think
>>> that
>>> it has.
>>> 
>>> Neal
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
>>> iOS 6
>>> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>>> 
>>> Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it
>>> half-empty
>>> for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker?
>>> It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a
>>> half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but
>>> seriously
>>> dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that is true,
>>> then why
>>> did you update? I'm not talking about the fact that Apple downloaded
>>> the iOS
>>> on your phone to be ready, I'm talking about your willingness to
>>> choose to
>>> instal, choose to agree to the terms that I bet you didn't read, and
>>> then
>>> choose to use iOS7. Apple didn't force your fingers to tap the
>>> install and
>>> the agree button. And in face, there are two agree buttons just to make
>>> sure. So, my friend, you had a choice to upgrade. Now live with it.
>>> if this
>>> sounds harsh, so be it. If you look at the glass as half-full you
>>> will see
>>> that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does have a lot of nice things to offer.
>>> Also,
>>> the bugs will get worked out given some time. yes, Apple may have
>>> pushed it
>>> out quickly, but seriously, the majority of the millions of users who
>>> use
>>> the iPhone daily love it fine and don't complain about it because
>>> it's what
>>> they want.
>>> 
>>> This isn't a personal attack on you, obviously you have the right to
>>> express
>>> your opinion, and that's what I'm doing as well, but maybe you should
>>> consider that there is good in the new release and not all bad.
>>> You did the exact same thing with iOS 6 when you upgraded to it. So,
>>> this
>>> leads me to believe that you always think negativel

Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

[Ricardo Walker]

Ah!

I see.  I was hoping when the system sounds reached maxium volume, Voiceover 
volume would keep increasing until the ratio was better balance.  Sorry to hear 
this didn’t work.  The issue with the Voiceover Volume stuck on 35% seems to be 
only on the 5s.  I’m not having this problem on my iPad mini or iPhone 5. 

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:

> Hi Recardo, the method you outline does work, but the volume ratio between 
> Voiceover and the other sounds on the phone is way off.
> In other words, the overall volume of the phone is increased, but by the time 
> you get to where Voiceover is at a comfortable  volume for listening, other 
> sounds, such as sounds that voiceover makes, are jarringly loud.
> Honest, when this happens, the volume of Voiceover cannot be increased above 
> 35% in the rotor.
> From what I have read on various forums, this is a known bug with the 5 S, I 
> don't know if it is with all 5S's, with no resolution except to reset all 
> settings to restore the correct Voiceover functionality,, which is quite 
> unreasonable in my view.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:46 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S
> 
> Hi,
> 
> doesn’t doing a 2 finger flick up to start VO reading, then pressing the up 
> volume on the phone turn up the Speech volume?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:
> 
>> The only way I could fix the 35% volume problem was to go into settings, 
>> General, Reset, Reset all Settings.
>> 
>> This fixed the problem, but only for a day or two, and it happened again.
>> I don’t know if this effects all 5S’s, but to me, this is a truly hideous 
>> and horrible bug that makes the phone very difficult to use in some cases.
>> 
>> From: Tom Lange
>> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I just bought a 5s this afternoon and have been setting it up.  I got the 
>> high-quality voice going, then started messing around with the rotor, sound 
>> volume, VO volume and so on.  I seem to have gotten things messed up so that 
>> when I turn the rotor to volume, I can't get the VO volume past 35 percent. 
>> I powered down the phone and restarted it, but the problem still persists.  
>> I remember seeing something about a similar issue a few days back but don't 
>> recall what the solution is, if any.  Any tips?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Christopher Chaltain]

He's talking about the iPhone 4 and not the iPhone 4S, at least the way 
I read it. It's true the 4S is still being manufactured, while the 
iPhone 4 is not, but the 4S is quite a bit more powerful than the iPhone 4.


On 10/06/2013 09:47 AM, Troy Sullivan wrote:

He is also claiming that the 4 series doesn't work well and is very
sluggish with ios7, I don't think apple would still be manufacturing the
4s if this were the case.
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



I don't think it's a fact that new software is always buggy. That
depends a lot on the software and the testing the software went
through before it was released. The process of finding and fixing bugs
is on going, so there's no guarantee that any particular bugs will be
fixed in a given update or that new bugs won't be introduced as other
bugs are fixed.

Companies aren't moving slowly to windows 7 because they were waiting
for the bugs to get ironed out, if that's what you're implying. Large
companies need to train support staff on a new OS, they need to verify
that all of the applications they need to do their job works on the
new OS, they need to develop a roll out plan to upgrade systems to the
new operating system, they need to develop training materials for
employees that will be moving to the new OS, they need to make an
investment in their hardware to ensure it'll run the new OS and so on.
this all takes time and money, so companies schedule this very
carefully and don't do it lightly.

One reason I consider moving up to a new level of software is for
accessibility improvements. If the software I'm using right now has
some accessibility issues, and I have some reason to think the newer
version may address these issues then I'll move up more quickly. Lotus
products are a good example of this for me. Also, if you're going to
have to move up anyway, such as if the company you're working for is
rolling out a new version, or Apple is encouraging everyone to move up
to the latest OS, then the earlier you move up and start reporting
bugs the sooner you'll get those bugs worked out.

New features are also a reason to move up to a new version of
software. I know I've made a decision to move up to a new version of
an application if it had a feature in it I really wanted, and I was
willing to put up with some buggy behavior to get that new
functionality. Windows 7, IOS 7, Lotus Notes 8, Ubuntu 12.04 are a few
examples I can think of off the top of my head.

Of course, if we're talking about Apple then there's also a push from
Apple to move up to the latest and greatest. they encourage us to do
this by pushing out the latest updates, not signing older versions of
the OS so rolling back is not an option, dropping support for older
versions of the OS and so on. A lot of the discussion on list is not
regrets from moving up but rather Apple's push to get everyone on the
latest OS within days of it's release.

On 10/05/2013 11:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi,

My question is: Why are people in such a hurry to download and
install a new
product?  Isn't it a fact that new software is always buggy? Isn't it
true
that when a new software comes out, they are not even quite finished
taking
the bugs out of the old one? Why is it that a lot of big companies
are just
moving to Windows 7 now?

My suggestion is that, if you want everything perfect, you don't use any
high tech device.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded.  The rest of
those of us
who are concerned here either loaded the software and regret it or are
waiting and having limited space taken up by whatever got downloaded.
I'm not at all sure that had I known that I would have trouble entering
contacts as has been described on this list, that I would have chosen
to buy
this phone.  What's easily gotten around by the experienced is not so
by a
newby.  Now, I came in with my contacts having been transferred from my
previous phone.  It's now not as big a deal as it would have been
when I was
first getting a phone and entering most of my contacts, but it might
very
easily not have been that way.  I want a phone that's a convenience
not a
chore.  I use a computer and don't tinker much.  This looks like a
decided
step backwards.


- Original Message -
From: "Neal Ewers" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Raul. Nice post, and a ques

Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

[Jim Fettgather]

Hi Recardo, the method you outline does work, but the volume ratio between 
Voiceover and the other sounds on the phone is way off.
In other words, the overall volume of the phone is increased, but by the 
time you get to where Voiceover is at a comfortable  volume for listening, 
other sounds, such as sounds that voiceover makes, are jarringly loud.
Honest, when this happens, the volume of Voiceover cannot be increased above 
35% in the rotor.
From what I have read on various forums, this is a known bug with the 5 S, I 
don't know if it is with all 5S's, with no resolution except to reset all 
settings to restore the correct Voiceover functionality,, which is quite 
unreasonable in my view.

Thanks.



-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker

Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:46 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

Hi,

doesn’t doing a 2 finger flick up to start VO reading, then pressing the up 
volume on the phone turn up the Speech volume?


Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:

The only way I could fix the 35% volume problem was to go into settings, 
General, Reset, Reset all Settings.


This fixed the problem, but only for a day or two, and it happened again.
I don’t know if this effects all 5S’s, but to me, this is a truly hideous 
and horrible bug that makes the phone very difficult to use in some cases.


From: Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

Hi,
I just bought a 5s this afternoon and have been setting it up.  I got the 
high-quality voice going, then started messing around with the rotor, 
sound volume, VO volume and so on.  I seem to have gotten things messed up 
so that when I turn the rotor to volume, I can't get the VO volume past 35 
percent. I powered down the phone and restarted it, but the problem still 
persists.  I remember seeing something about a similar issue a few days 
back but don't recall what the solution is, if any.  Any tips?


Thanks,

Tom


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Re: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

doesn’t doing a 2 finger flick up to start VO reading, then pressing the up 
volume on the phone turn up the Speech volume?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Jim Fettgather  wrote:

> The only way I could fix the 35% volume problem was to go into settings, 
> General, Reset, Reset all Settings.
>  
> This fixed the problem, but only for a day or two, and it happened again.
> I don’t know if this effects all 5S’s, but to me, this is a truly hideous and 
> horrible bug that makes the phone very difficult to use in some cases.  
>  
> From: Tom Lange
> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: VoiceOver Volume in Rotor on 5S
>  
> Hi,
> I just bought a 5s this afternoon and have been setting it up.  I got the 
> high-quality voice going, then started messing around with the rotor, sound 
> volume, VO volume and so on.  I seem to have gotten things messed up so that 
> when I turn the rotor to volume, I can't get the VO volume past 35 percent. I 
> powered down the phone and restarted it, but the problem still persists.  I 
> remember seeing something about a similar issue a few days back but don't 
> recall what the solution is, if any.  Any tips?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Tom
>  
>  
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Troy Sullivan]

He is also claiming that the 4 series doesn't work well and is very sluggish 
with ios7, I don't think apple would still be manufacturing the 4s if this 
were the case.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



I don't think it's a fact that new software is always buggy. That depends a 
lot on the software and the testing the software went through before it was 
released. The process of finding and fixing bugs is on going, so there's no 
guarantee that any particular bugs will be fixed in a given update or that 
new bugs won't be introduced as other bugs are fixed.


Companies aren't moving slowly to windows 7 because they were waiting for 
the bugs to get ironed out, if that's what you're implying. Large 
companies need to train support staff on a new OS, they need to verify 
that all of the applications they need to do their job works on the new 
OS, they need to develop a roll out plan to upgrade systems to the new 
operating system, they need to develop training materials for employees 
that will be moving to the new OS, they need to make an investment in 
their hardware to ensure it'll run the new OS and so on. this all takes 
time and money, so companies schedule this very carefully and don't do it 
lightly.


One reason I consider moving up to a new level of software is for 
accessibility improvements. If the software I'm using right now has some 
accessibility issues, and I have some reason to think the newer version 
may address these issues then I'll move up more quickly. Lotus products 
are a good example of this for me. Also, if you're going to have to move 
up anyway, such as if the company you're working for is rolling out a new 
version, or Apple is encouraging everyone to move up to the latest OS, 
then the earlier you move up and start reporting bugs the sooner you'll 
get those bugs worked out.


New features are also a reason to move up to a new version of software. I 
know I've made a decision to move up to a new version of an application if 
it had a feature in it I really wanted, and I was willing to put up with 
some buggy behavior to get that new functionality. Windows 7, IOS 7, Lotus 
Notes 8, Ubuntu 12.04 are a few examples I can think of off the top of my 
head.


Of course, if we're talking about Apple then there's also a push from 
Apple to move up to the latest and greatest. they encourage us to do this 
by pushing out the latest updates, not signing older versions of the OS so 
rolling back is not an option, dropping support for older versions of the 
OS and so on. A lot of the discussion on list is not regrets from moving 
up but rather Apple's push to get everyone on the latest OS within days of 
it's release.


On 10/05/2013 11:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi,

My question is: Why are people in such a hurry to download and install a 
new
product?  Isn't it a fact that new software is always buggy? Isn't it 
true
that when a new software comes out, they are not even quite finished 
taking
the bugs out of the old one? Why is it that a lot of big companies are 
just

moving to Windows 7 now?

My suggestion is that, if you want everything perfect, you don't use any
high tech device.

Ron & Danvers

Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 
6

holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded.  The rest of those of 
us

who are concerned here either loaded the software and regret it or are
waiting and having limited space taken up by whatever got downloaded.
I'm not at all sure that had I known that I would have trouble entering
contacts as has been described on this list, that I would have chosen to 
buy
this phone.  What's easily gotten around by the experienced is not so by 
a

newby.  Now, I came in with my contacts having been transferred from my
previous phone.  It's now not as big a deal as it would have been when I 
was

first getting a phone and entering most of my contacts, but it might very
easily not have been that way.  I want a phone that's a convenience not a
chore.  I use a computer and don't tinker much.  This looks like a 
decided

step backwards.


- Original Message -
From: "Neal Ewers" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 
6

holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would
load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or other
buttons
as well? To hear people tell it, this magically happens in the night 
with

no
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Re: My phone no longer recognizes me!

[Troy Sullivan]

Yes, resetting your settings probably caused this issue.
I can't remember the steps on adding your name so she knows who you are.

- Original Message - 
From: "hannah day" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: My phone no longer recognizes me!


Jim i've got a simular problem my phone has stopped calling me also and
i don't no what the issue is . i called my self hannah banarna in seri
and he no longer calls me this and i don't no how to get him back

I reseted my net work settings a few days agoe wunder if this has
anything to do with it?


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On 03/10/2013 07:50, Jim Portillo wrote:

Hi there,

I’m hoping someone might have a good answer for me.

If you recall, I emailed mentioning that there had been a change
regarding my own personal contact information in my contacts list on my
IPhone.

Well, when I was using Siri, I noticed it no longer called me by name
and didn’t seem to know who I was.  Also, I noticed that when I’d look
in my contacts list, before actually going through the list, it would
say something like “My number” and then say my number.  This time, it no
longer presents my number.

Did I somehow unregister my phone or do something with the information
my phone had about me?  How do I recover it?

Do I have to do something via Itunes, or go somewhere in the settings?

Any help would be appreciated, please.  Thank you.

Jim

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Re: iTunes

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Your iCloud account is the same as your Apple ID and password.  Just type tose 
in and press ok.

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On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:08 AM, simon wong  wrote:

> Hi all, since updating to version 11.1 I keep getting this dialog box to 
> enter a iCloud account, but I do not have one, how do I get rid of this 
> annoying message?
> 
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Re: Audible app not showing purchased books

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

A 3 finger swipe up from the main page also refreshes the app.

hth

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On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Hi Tom,
> Assuming that you are signed in two audible on the audible app, and you have 
> selected your library and cloud, go to settings. And in there, you should 
> find a button that will let you refresh your library. It's kind of strange 
> that they've hidden this away and settings, since it used to be right on the 
> opening screen after you were signed in and had selected your library. But it 
> does work. Good luck.
> Mary
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "Tom Rash"  wrote:
> 
>> How can I get access to my purchased books with the Audible app?  I select 
>> cloud and am only seeing excerpts. 
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Re: making and receiving calls since the upgrade

[Troy Sullivan]

Can you please explain in more detail what issues you are having? On my 4s, 
the only issue I am having is when receiving calls is the speaker phone does 
not automatically switch to the earpeace when holding the phone to your ear. 
Well it does, but not right away. This is a known issue and from what I 
understand apple is working on this. I'm not sure about the 5 series as I 
don't have it.

Other than that I have no other issues with the phone portion.
- Original Message - 
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Subject: making and receiving calls since the upgrade



Hi all,
Since the upgrade my iphone 4 s seems not as good when making and 
receiving calls.
First of all to save lots of battery life I went in to settings, general 
accessability then I checked reduce motion to be on as this saves lots of 
battery life.

found this out from a brilliant podcast look at
www.frequencycast.com
my samsung galaxy s iii is far better when making and receiving calls.
hear in the uk I am with vodafone with my iphone and t mobile on the 
samsung.
wonder if the iphone 5 is better for making and receiving calls after all 
it's meant to be a phone.


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Re: ESPN APP.

[Fred Olver]

Jim, which one? I have several on my phone, when I first saw your post, I 
was wondering if you meant the one for ESPN radio, you ought to be able to 
type in ESPN and get the list of all their apps.


Fred Olver



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have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Noseworthy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: ESPN APP.



Hi Folks:

I am looking for the ESPN app but, for the life of me, I can't find it.  I 
find everything else concerning ESPN but not the app itself. Any help 
would be appreciated all over the place.


Thanks.

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Re: Phone is frozen, how do I fix this?

[Troy Sullivan]

Just to note, one thing I do to see if my phone is on or off without speach 
is to toggle the mute switch, When flipped down to mute you should feel the 
phone do a short vibration.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Phone is frozen, how do I fix this?


Hi,

Do you know for sure that the battery hasn't run out of charge? Are
you able to confirm visually that the phone is not off? In these
situations it's usually worth connecting the phone to a wall outlet
and leaving it for a few minutes, just to double check that a charge
won't solve the problem as it would be a shame to go through the
restore process if the problem was a simple low battery related one.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 10/2/13, hannah day  wrote:

Jen i had this once before on my old phone  a restore should fix this
or you could try and hold down the power button and the home key at the
same timee for about 10 seckons and the phone should reboot if not i
would do a restre in itunes if this isn't possible chat soon hannah


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On 02/10/2013 14:12, Jen Colley wrote:

Hi,
All of a sudden my phone is saying nothing and the battery is not dead.
It’s like it’s off but when I turn it on nothing happens.
I’ve had this problem once before but I forget what was done to get it
right once again.
Jen

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

[Troy Sullivan]

Someone had mentioned on this list that IClean did not seem to work well 
with ios7, however it is working fine on my IPhone4s.
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? 
Does the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc 
space so that an app such as this might be able to clean it out? I have 
the app, but I don't have a device with iOS 7 pending on it.


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On 10/6/2013 8:36 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Raul, anybody is saying that IOs 7 install by itself. That every body is
saying that IOs 7 is downloading by itself, filling space memory in our
devices. The way to empty this space, is installing IOs 7, because is no
way to delete the data downloaded by itself. Is true that we have to
agree for the instalation, but apple never asked about agreement to
download and fill memory space in our devices.
.
- Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not
complaining about . I don't believe there is a way this can be
done without the user's knowledge or on purpose intervention. Not only
do you have to tap the install button, you have to tap agree, and then
agree a second time. Of course with Voice Over, it's double tap. After
that, the phone goes quiet during the installation process and
eventually reboots using iOS 7 and you are asked to continue and
that's the part which shows up in many different languages. So, none
of this is automagic. I have yet to read a real case situation where
this has happened to someone. Also, I think it would be all over the
news if it had. So, I think we are safe from the big bad Apple
downloading and installing iOS 7 without our consent. Downloading it
yes, installing it, no.

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On 10/4/2013 9:08 AM, Neal Ewers wrote:
Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple 
would

load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or other
buttons
as well? To hear people tell it, this magically happens in the night
with no
knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we lay this one to rest at last, 
but

then I think that's what your previous message actually did. I was just
curious if this had actually happened to anyone though I cannot think
that
it has.

Neal
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Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it
half-empty
for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker?
It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a
half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but
seriously
dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that is true,
then why
did you update? I'm not talking about the fact that Apple downloaded
the iOS
on your phone to be ready, I'm talking about your willingness to
choose to
instal, choose to agree to the terms that I bet you didn't read, and
then
choose to use iOS7. Apple didn't force your fingers to tap the
install and
the agree button. And in face, there are two agree buttons just to make
sure. So, my friend, you had a choice to upgrade. Now live with it.
if this
sounds harsh, so be it. If you look at the glass as half-full you
will see
that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does have a lot of nice things to offer.
Also,
the bugs will get worked out given some time. yes, Apple may have
pushed it
out quickly, but seriously, the majority of the millions of users who
use
the iPhone daily love it fine and don't complain about it because
it's what
they want.

This isn't a personal attack on you, obviously you have the right to
express
your opinion, and that's what I'm doing as well, but maybe you should
consider that there is good in the new release and not all bad.
You did the exact same thing with iOS 6 when you upgraded to it. So,
this
leads me to believe that you always think negatively. If you hate
Apple and
iPhones so much, why do you even bother having one?


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got to
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Re: Opening search on iPhone with braille display

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

My question is: Will this command work on the Mac side too? I'm not at a 
location that I can test it out immediately. 

Thanks. 

Eileen 
On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> space+ dot 3 4 5 6 should let you into search field.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den Oct 4, 2013 kl. 10:29 PM skrev Anisio Correia 
> :
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Is there a way to open spotlight search on the iPhone via the braille 
>> display? Each time I need to search something, I need to do a 3-finger swipe 
>> down on the iphone.  It would be great if I could activate the command from 
>> my braille display.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> 
>> Anisio Correia
>> Atlanta, Georgia
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhon
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Re: iTunes Radio

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree with your points, but there's never been a lack of competition 
for Pandora in the radio streaming space. A lot of what I like about 
iTunes Radio though has to do with it's integration into the OS, the 
lock screen, the Control Center and so on. I wonder how much of this is 
available to Apple's competition.


On 10/02/2013 09:59 AM, Eric Whitten wrote:

I use itunes radio more then pandora now. I use pandora for comedy,
since itunes radio does not have comedy. I use it more for music. i
listen to a lot of old school r&B. I think itunes radio is awesome. I
think it is also good to have compitition as far as radio streaming
services go.

  Eric Whitten
On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:


This is due to the agreements Apple has been able to make with the
music companies, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in the US.
If you use iTunes Match, you'll get more skips per hour than if you
don't, but contrary to the conventional wisdom before iTunes Radio's
release, you don't get unlimited skips. Subscribing to iTunes Match
also makes iTunes Radio ad free.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org 

On 3/10/2013, at 2:50 AM, Alan Paganelli mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>> wrote:


I have found that if I hit the next button to move to the next song,
you will reach a point where you can't move forward through the songs
being played and the forward button goes dimmed.  Going back several
songs will then activate the next button again but only those few
songs so, it does appear that there is a limit on the number of times
you can jump forward. I'd suspect that the same would hold true in
reverse.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/

There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly
on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" mailto:modelc...@gmail.com>>
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio



HI Rose and All,

Try this;

Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured
Stations Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area
you find, and interact with it as well.

Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to
navigate the stations. I've found that though many of them say
dimmed, when you navigate back through them once again, they will
read properly. This seems like it may be a VO issue.

Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)

Have a great night!

Cara :)
On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the
problem.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac,
interacting
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, "Rose Combs" mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set
I assume.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations.
This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at
the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre
or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can
double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up
beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.

On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:

All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi
something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not
found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like
music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.

I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I
think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegrou

Re: Can't get the picker item to stay in focus when searching the bard website using the app

[Richard Turner]

It is a bug.

Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:23 AM, "Jen Colley"  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I appologize if this was covered but I looked through and didn’t see it. 
> I have just started to use the bard app.  Last night I was browsing the bard 
> website within the app. 
> I wanted to search for a book by subject so went to that section.  It said to 
> double tap to activate the picker which I did but I moved my finger up once 
> to start arrowing through the list and it got to adventure and when I went up 
> again it bounced me back to the previous link so then flicked right to get 
> back to the select a subject and double tap to activate the picker and double 
> tapped and couldn’t get the list to appear when I moved my finger up. 
> How do you accomplish this or is this a bug? 
> Jen 
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Re: Siri and relationships, how to use?

[Christopher Chaltain]

If someone takes your phone to use it fraudulently then they'll have 
access to your contact information, so I don't think they'll have too 
much trouble getting to this information whether you set up a 
relationship in Siri or not. You could always set up a passcode if 
you're worried about it or get a 5x with the finger print scanner. This 
doesn't provide the greatest amount of security, but it'll keep the 
casual person from doing too much damage with your phone. You have to 
balance security with convenience. It's like the battery issue. If you 
go too far then you're severely limiting the usefulness of your device, 
but it's up to each person where to draw that line.


On 10/02/2013 01:44 PM, marsyc...@gmail.com wrote:

Is it safe to do so? What happens if someone take ur device  for fraudulent use?

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Oct, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:


Thank you think i know what went wrong now cheers.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 02/10/2013 12:52, Denny Schwab wrote:

Hello,

You tell Siri something like Jane Doe is my mother, Sandy Smith is my
sister, and Jim Dale is my brother.  You need the individual in your
contact list before doing this though.

Once set up you can say call my mother, text my sister, and email my
brother.  I am not sure if there are more options, but these are the
ones I use.

Denny

On 10/2/13, Chris H  wrote:

Good morning all.
How exactly do I use the relationships feature of Siri?
I'm asking this as I asked Siri to text my eldest sister. He then asked
who he should send the message to and that he needs a name, e-mail or
phone number. However he knows who my eldest sister is and she is in my
contacts. I tried asking him to text my youngest sister but the same
happened. He also knows who my father is but not tried that yet.
Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Opening search on iPhone with braille display

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

space+ dot 3 4 5 6 should let you into search field.

Best regards Annie.
Den Oct 4, 2013 kl. 10:29 PM skrev Anisio Correia :

> Hello all,
> 
> Is there a way to open spotlight search on the iPhone via the braille 
> display? Each time I need to search something, I need to do a 3-finger swipe 
> down on the iphone.  It would be great if I could activate the command from 
> my braille display.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Anisio Correia
> Atlanta, Georgia
> 
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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree that making the download of an upgrade manual is a reasonable 
request, and I hope people are sending this request into Apple. I'm not 
sure being able to downgrade, at least forever, is so reasonable though. 
Apple promises a "it just works" or "a secure, easy to use, worry free 
environment". Part of this is getting people on the latest level of the 
software. People complain how much malware there is on Android and 
Windows or how hard it is to find an Android phone with the latest and 
greatest operating system and accessibility software and so on. Apple 
battles security vulnerabilities and issues created by fragmentation by 
making it as easy as possible for people to move up to the latest and 
greatest software and encouraging them to do it. IMHO, if people are 
unhappy with IOS 7 then they should be complaining about IOS 7 and how 
Apple didn't deliver on it's promises with a new OS and not how they 
can't go back to IOS 6 or how IOS 7 got on their phone in the first place.


You say IOS 7 is sluggish on your family members iPhone 4. Was it also 
sluggish with IOS 6?


Also, I've never heard a lot of grumbling about Windows pushing updates 
out to people's PC's without their knowledge mostly because I don't ever 
recall a time when this wasn't a configurable option. I'm not sure 
analogies with Windows go very far though. The Apple business model and 
ecosystem is very different than that of Microsoft and the PC. The fact 
that you get your PC from one company and the operating system from 
another is one such case. Note that Microsoft is changing it's business 
model and adapting some of the same characteristics of Apple's wildly 
successful model. It isn't a coincidence that Microsoft has gotten into 
the business of making their own tablet hardware and just bought a smart 
phone handset manufacturer. Of course, Google got into the hardware 
business themselves not too long ago, and I read an article recently on 
how Android is pushing out upgrades on it's phones behind the scenes to 
battle malware and fragmentation in the Android ecosystem.


On 10/04/2013 05:03 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

Hi Chris,

All analogies aside, I must say that while I personally am not experiencing
any showstoppers with iOS 7, I think being able to downgrade, or at least
disable the automatic download, is a pretty reasonable request. I personally
agree with Jonathan's post and don't see why listers object to that request.
A sighted family member has an iPhone 4 with iOS 7 and when I turn on VO to
help them, I definitely notice a lot of sluggishness.

In the past Microsoft has been chastised for automatically installing
updates to the Windows update engine itself without a user's consent. So I
don't think Pablo's request is out of the ordinary by any means.

Grant

-Original Message-
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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: October 4, 2013 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

Well, I think it's a bad analogy. I think a better analogy is that I want to
buy a home in a maintained community where I don't have to worry about
security or maintenance. The community will keep my walls fresh and clean.
My carpeting will be replaced for me on a regular basis. My lawn will be
mowed and trimmed for me. Now to save costs and make sure all of the houses
in the community look as nice as possible, I don't get to choose exactly
when my home will be painted or the carpeting replaced, and I have limited
choices of colors. I'm OK if the maintenance crew needs to keep some paint
and supplies in one of my closets.

On 10/04/2013 02:40 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Wow, this issue made me think about a situation very similar. For
example, I have a little home, One bed room, one bathroom, a little
kitchen and a little living room together. Even though, it is my home,
I am the owner of my great home. I clean and put my home nice every
day. I had to work very hard to buy this little home, and I love my
home. even though, one day, The god apple said.
Every body has to paint their homes of red, and I think, oh no, I
don't like the red color, no for my walls, it is a very stressful
color, and I said no. But God apple sent a group of solders to my
home, and they broke my door, and put in my bathroom, the gallons of
paint, red paint, brushes, and steps, the whole tools to paint my
home. Now I got my bathroom full of things that I don't want to use,
but I am not able to take this things out of my home.
The only way that I have to do it, is paint my home of red, and no
matter if I don't like this color, no matter if this color doesn't
match with my furniture's, no matter if this color make me stressed.
Do you think that is fir?
do you think that is legal?
I don't see it legal, and I don't see it fir.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Sieghard Weitzel 
 *To:* viphone@googlegr

Re: A couple of Kindle questions

[kliphton]

HOw do you back up your books in iTunes?  I have tried this with no success.
Kliphton Senior
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On Oct 4, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Alan Paganelli  wrote:

> The Kindle app for iPhone works well and you can backup your books to your 
> computer via iTunes.
> ---
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
> 
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! Move 
> out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> 
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Donald L. Roberts" 
> 
> To: "Viphone" 
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:17 AM
> Subject: A couple of Kindle questions
> 
> 
>> I haven't yet used the Kindle IOS app. Also, I haven't yet upgraded to IOS 7.
>> 
>> I plan to buy a Kindle book and am wondering whether I can load the book 
>> both on the IOS app and also on the accessible Kindle for PC. I am also 
>> wondering if either of the two apps has a mechanism for continuous reading. 
>> The original Kindle for PC had no such command.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
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