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[Scott Erichsen]

 

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Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?

[Liz And Sammie]

I'm glad you were able to install iTunes successfully. Anything can happen 
between Saturday and today. Maybe Apple fixed the problem that people were 
having with installing iTunes. I sure hope so. I hope it all works out for you.

Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 

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Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

> On Jan 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Carol Pearson  
> wrote:
> 
> Liz,
> 
> I thought I would have the same problems yourself when I went to install 
> iTunes today. It reached about 98% and then just sat there. Anyway, I got 
> away from the computer for some reason and couldn't get back for some while. 
> When I did, it seemed that the install was successful and that, eventually, 
> it did make it.
> 
> I just passed this on for what it's worth. I haven't yet started to use it, 
> by the way, but I can only assume that it really did install correctly.
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 27 Jan 2014, at 06:38 am, Liz And Sammie  
> wrote:
> 
> You have to uninstall iTunes and Apple components to install the latest 
> version of iTunes. You can't copy over an old install with this update. I 
> spent a lot of time yesterday updating iTunes deleting old components and 
> reinstalling things. Plus I had to fix my Outlook 2007 as MobileMe services 
> kept giving me error messages. It was a pain, but at least it's done
> 
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
> 
> 
> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
> Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Ron Pelletier  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> No, with this problem, you can’t re-install over the top because you get a 
>> message that the installation has to stop because you’re missing a DLL file. 
>>  After removing the components, you have to completely remove iTunes and 
>> re-install from scratch.  Believe me, I had enough trouble in the past 24 
>> hours with this update to last me a lifetime.
>>  
>> Ron & Danvers
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mich
>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
>> so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>>  
>> you don't really need to deleate anything I don't think i think you can just 
>> coppy over top of your old install and it should be fine. from Mich.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Jen Colley
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
>> so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>>  
>> I’m not sure what they do but I’m having trouble getting itunes to update 
>> and someone here suggested I remove certain things before reinstalling 
>> itunes and I deleted the email by accident telling me what to delete. 
>>  
>> From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:53 PM
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
>> so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>>  
>> This is the first I’ve heard of these Apple Support options. Can you 
>> describe what they do and how they’re used? Thanks..
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jen Colley
>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:40 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support so 
>> should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>>  
>> Hi, 
>> There is apple mobile device support and apple software support.  Should I 
>> delete both before trying to reinstall itunes or just the apple mobile 
>> device support? 
>> Can I then use apple software updates to reinstall itunes again? 
>> Jen 
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Re: Solara last three fights of lvl 40

[Yolanda]

On 1/26/2014 8:25 PM, Ron Miller wrote:

I can't remember what's facing you. Can you list the party?

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Yolanda
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Subject: Solara last three fights of lvl 40

Any suggestions on a combo that will beat out the last two fights to become lvl 
40 in the quest section?

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Re: Syncing calendar to facebook

[DJ Reese]

David:

Yep must be a bug within the calendar because I followed your directions and 
the Facebook calendar was already selected and birthday's isn't showing up.

DJ Reese

Download and install the new Peachtree Radio fM app available in the 
Android, Apple and Black berry app stores today.
Peachtree Radio FM.  where some listen to remember and some listen to 
forget.
www.peachtreeradiofm.com
- Original Message - 

Double-tap on the calendars button at the centre bottom of the display in 
calendar. Go through the list of calendars and make sure FaceBook is 
selected.

I suspect there may be a bug as my calendar is not displaying FaceBook 
birthdays even though I have this option selected.

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Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Marianne Denning]

Tess, I think you asked a very good question.  I won't open spam or
anything I suspect of being spam and those things do get through at
times.

On 1/27/14, Tess  wrote:
> I hope people aren't upset with me.
>
> For me, I made a mistake, I said I thought it was spam, so I was deleting
> them myself.
>
> I apologize to one and all if I came across myself as upset. I don't mind
> hitting delete keys. I do that with over 50+ emails aday that I get because
> I just don't need to read those emails that don't pertain to me.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Caitlyn and Maggie
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
>
>
>
> it's only blind square.
>
> Caitlyn
>
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it's the way they are
> set up!
>
> tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep
> to somplace other than the list.
>
> I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a
> website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message.
>
> I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to
> why
> I am going there.
>
> so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS
> app?
> why would I go anywhere to find out?
>
> From: Hope Paulos 
>
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
>
>
>
> I work for Fedora Outlier LLC,  and these messages are legitimate.
>
>
> Hope Paulos
>
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
> wrote:
>>
>> These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be
> blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure
> they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have
> a "drum roll please" feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a
> problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting
> the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a
> deal
> if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link
> is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid
> out and easy to navigate with a browser.
>>
>>> On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote:
>>> Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was
>>> auto deleting them.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Alex Hall
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> *Cc:* 
>>> *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
>>>
>>> Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few
>>> sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will
>>> not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like
>>> questionable promotions than helpful messages.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, "Neal Ewers" >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some
 information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page
 to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that
 tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on
 your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I
 have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of
 worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any
 means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10
 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least
 some basic information.

 Neal

 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

 --

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 Junior Partner

 Fedora Outlier, LLC

 Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support

 website

 Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801

 Fax: 888-467-2162

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 Twitter

 Facebook

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 newsletter Hello, everyone,

 It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if
 it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating.
 But before you venture out, che

Re: Face time video calling

[isaac]

You can use the phone number also you and you’re sister can set up iCloud.com 
accounts by going to settings iCloud and enabling the mail option then you can 
create a @iCloud.com account to use for iMessaging and FaceTime.
On Jan 27, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Donald L. Roberts  
wrote:

> My wife who has a fifth generation iPod wants to make video face time calls 
> to her sister who has a second generation iPad.  I know there are some things 
> on both the iPod and iPad which have to be set up for this to work.  I would 
> therefore appreciate someone outlining these steps for me.
> 
> I should also mention that my sister-in-law's iPad is wifi only.  So, am I 
> correct in assuming that the telephone number to use would be her regular 
> cellular number?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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Face time video calling

[Donald L. Roberts]

My wife who has a fifth generation iPod wants to make video face time 
calls to her sister who has a second generation iPad.  I know there are 
some things on both the iPod and iPad which have to be set up for this 
to work.  I would therefore appreciate someone outlining these steps for 
me.


I should also mention that my sister-in-law's iPad is wifi only.  So, am 
I correct in assuming that the telephone number to use would be her 
regular cellular number?


Thanks.

Don Roberts

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RE: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Tess]

I hope people aren't upset with me. 

For me, I made a mistake, I said I thought it was spam, so I was deleting
them myself.

I apologize to one and all if I came across myself as upset. I don't mind
hitting delete keys. I do that with over 50+ emails aday that I get because
I just don't need to read those emails that don't pertain to me.

 

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Caitlyn and Maggie
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

 

it's only blind square.

Caitlyn

 

On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel  wrote:





I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it's the way they are
set up! 

tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep
to somplace other than the list. 

I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a
website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message. 

I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to why
I am going there. 

so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS app?
why would I go anywhere to find out?

From: Hope Paulos   

Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

 

I work for Fedora Outlier LLC,  and these messages are legitimate. 


Hope Paulos

> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
wrote:
> 
> These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be
blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure
they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have
a "drum roll please" feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a
problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting
the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal
if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link
is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid
out and easy to navigate with a browser.
> 
>> On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote:
>> Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was
>> auto deleting them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Alex Hall
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Cc:* 
>> *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
>> 
>> Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few
>> sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will
>> not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like
>> questionable promotions than helpful messages.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, "Neal Ewers" > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some
>>> information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page
>>> to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that
>>> tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on
>>> your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I
>>> have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of
>>> worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any
>>> means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10
>>> apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least
>>> some basic information.
>>> 
>>> Neal
>>> 
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Marcy weinberg
>>> 
>>> Junior Partner
>>> 
>>> Fedora Outlier, LLC
>>> 
>>> Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support
>>> 
>>> website
>>> 
>>> Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801
>>> 
>>> Fax: 888-467-2162
>>> 
>>> ma...@fedoraoutlier.com 
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> 
>>> Facebook
>>> 
>>> blog
>>> 
>>> newsletter Hello, everyone,
>>> 
>>> It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if
>>> it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating.
>>> But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5
>>> on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this!
>>> 
>>> Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka
>>> 
>>> Have a terrific day!
>>> 
>>> Marcy
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Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Fred Olver]

I've seen other items like this and they oftentimes mention that they have a 
top-ten with a link to the site for those who wish to check it out, however 
I've never seen one for each day of the month, or so it seems.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Alfaro" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!


I'm sorry to say that I also find this practice very annoying. I get
this in their email messages as well and I never follow the links and
I'll probably be unsubscribing from that email list because of this. I
understand the intent is to drive up the hit counters for the web site
and that is their choice but I feel if one has info to offer, just do it
without making people plow through a bunch of advertising.



Best Regards,

Rick alfaro

On 1/26/2014 6:02 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:

I find these "hooks" to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and
offer any additional advertising) very annoying.  As others have stated,
if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the
app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind
community.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
- Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004

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Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?

[Carol Pearson]

Liz,

I thought I would have the same problems yourself when I went to install iTunes 
today. It reached about 98% and then just sat there. Anyway, I got away from 
the computer for some reason and couldn't get back for some while. When I did, 
it seemed that the install was successful and that, eventually, it did make it.

I just passed this on for what it's worth. I haven't yet started to use it, by 
the way, but I can only assume that it really did install correctly.



Carol P
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On 27 Jan 2014, at 06:38 am, Liz And Sammie  
wrote:

You have to uninstall iTunes and Apple components to install the latest version 
of iTunes. You can't copy over an old install with this update. I spent a lot 
of time yesterday updating iTunes deleting old components and reinstalling 
things. Plus I had to fix my Outlook 2007 as MobileMe services kept giving me 
error messages. It was a pain, but at least it's done

Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 

http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

> On Jan 26, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> No, with this problem, you can’t re-install over the top because you get a 
> message that the installation has to stop because you’re missing a DLL file.  
> After removing the components, you have to completely remove iTunes and 
> re-install from scratch.  Believe me, I had enough trouble in the past 24 
> hours with this update to last me a lifetime.
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mich
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
> so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>  
> you don't really need to deleate anything I don't think i think you can just 
> coppy over top of your old install and it should be fine. from Mich.
> - Original Message -
> From: Jen Colley
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
> so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>  
> I’m not sure what they do but I’m having trouble getting itunes to update and 
> someone here suggested I remove certain things before reinstalling itunes and 
> I deleted the email by accident telling me what to delete. 
>  
> From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:53 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
> so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>  
> This is the first I’ve heard of these Apple Support options. Can you describe 
> what they do and how they’re used? Thanks..
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jen Colley
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support so 
> should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>  
> Hi, 
> There is apple mobile device support and apple software support.  Should I 
> delete both before trying to reinstall itunes or just the apple mobile device 
> support? 
> Can I then use apple software updates to reinstall itunes again? 
> Jen 
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Let's All Move On

[Scott Rumery]

I would just like to say once and for all that I for one am ready to close this 
thread just like Kara told us to with her post last night. This is why when 
responding to this message I changed the subject line.


ScottOn Jan 27, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Marianne Denning  
wrote:

> There are several companies I have learned about because of these
> types of posts.  Why should we, as blind people, be left out of the
> advertising process?  I have received enough information from the
> little bit of information the count down provided to decide if I
> wanted to read further or not.  I think the "advertising" has given me
> additional information about the company and I appreciate it.  Please
> keep sending these emails.
> 
> On 1/27/14, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
>> I'm sorry to say that I also find this practice very annoying. I get
>> this in their email messages as well and I never follow the links and
>> I'll probably be unsubscribing from that email list because of this. I
>> understand the intent is to drive up the hit counters for the web site
>> and that is their choice but I feel if one has info to offer, just do it
>> without making people plow through a bunch of advertising.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Rick alfaro
>> 
>> On 1/26/2014 6:02 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:
>>> I find these "hooks" to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and
>>> offer any additional advertising) very annoying.  As others have stated,
>>> if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the
>>> app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind
>>> community.
>>> 
>>> Holland's Boy, Bill
>>> - "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
>>> - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004
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Re: solara battle tips in arena Re: Areena cheat codes or something?

[David Chittenden]

If you use the same party as the opponent, and both are at the same level, you 
will only win half the time.

The trick is to find the combat party that will defeat the party you are 
challenging.

As I stated in a previous message, Templar, Ranger, Ranger, Druid will defeat 
Bard, Ranger, Ranger, Sorceress, 7 out of 8 attempts.

I also know which combination has a very high chance of defeating Templar, 
Ranger, Ranger, Druid. It is an odd combination which really surprised me when 
I stumbled upon it.

Good luck,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Jan 2014, at 11:40, ramy moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Ok the top areena persons are using
> Bard ranger ranger and sorces 
> I did that but i can not be the 1st
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:33 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ramy,
>> 
>> I assume you're asking how to win your tournament and come in first in your 
>> weekly tournament in the arena. Obviously, you need to rack up the most 
>> points, and you'll do this by winning and not losing battles. Also, once you 
>> defeat an opponent, you can't challenge them for a while.
>> 
>> Therefore, you need to work down through the list and pick battles you're 
>> confident you can win. You need to do this pretty frequently, since you need 
>> to rack up a lot of victories to collect a lot of points. You'll have to 
>> work harder if your heroes are at lower levels than your opponents, since 
>> there are fewer parties you'll be able to challenge.
>> 
>> I'm closing in on level 50, and I haven't come close to winning a tournament 
>> in the last dozen or more levels. I see how it goes, but I just try to 
>> finish in the money, i.e. the top 50. If I'm doing well, I may get more 
>> conservative and try to break into the top ten. If I'm not doing so well, 
>> I'll write off the week and use the tournament as an opportunity to 
>> experiment with different hero combinations.
>> 
>> sorry I wasn't more helpful. I've already posted, and I'm sure you've read, 
>> my tips on looking for good matchups in the arena.
>> 
>>> On 01/26/2014 03:21 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>>> Templar, ranger, ranger, druid defeats that combination seven out of
>>> eight times.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 27 Jan 2014, at 7:43, "Shawn" >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Speaking of being at level 40 I’m right in that area as well, and I’ve
 noticed in the arena all the people at the top have a bard ranger
 ranger and a sorceress, and I can not seem to find a good combination
 to beat that. Anyone have any suggestions?
 thanks
 shawn
 *From:* Ramy Moustafa 
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:17 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Areena cheat codes or something?
 
 Hi all gamers:
 
 I now in level 40, but don’t know the secret for being the 1^st in
 arena, I make the same formation as I see in the 1^st member
 formation, but I still can not be the 1^st ,  my heros are in level
 40, but don’t know what can I do else?
 
 Any guide tips that I must follow?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox

[Alan Paganelli]

Will plain text 2 also work with iPad Air?

Regards,

Alan

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox


Hi, I love Droptext and PlainText 2 the most. Also, as far as I know, 
Plain Text 2 is free for now, but might be changed to a paid app. So, if 
you want to try apps out, now is a good time for this one at least. Write 
2 is another good one which allows you to edit files either on the iDevice 
only or on Dropbox.


--
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You think your life is hard? Just think, there's a turtle out there that 
has been flipped on its back and can't get up. - Sheldon Cooper

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On 1/26/2014 9:17 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

PlainText 2 is also very good, completely VoiceOver friendly and the best
part is that it is free..
NoteMaster is also very good, but it saves the files as .docx even though
there is no formatting supported other than bullets and headings, no 
tabs,
centering, etc.  So, if you want to stick with txt files, my 
recommendation
is PlainText 2, which is the new version of PlainText because it was 
bought

by another company but they seem to be committed to maintaining the
VoiceOver support.

I've not used Nebulous, so that might be just as good.  Does it allow you 
to

organize files in folders?  PlainText 2 does.

Good luck,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Craig Werner
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox

Hello, everyone.

I am looking for a text editor that is VoiceOver-compatible and syncs
files with a Dropbox account.  I am evaluating Nebulous Notes Lite and
will probably buy the no-ads version of Nebulous Notes if I can't find
an editor I like better.  So far, I am very pleased with Nebulous
Notes Lite.  It has an uncluttered interface, a user's manual,
extensive help, VoiceOver-labeled buttons, and the ability to sync
with any textfile the user has placed on Dropbox.  I have heard good
things about Elements and PlainText, but I have no knowledge on how
well these editors work with VoiceOver.  All help is appreciated.

Thank you.

Craig



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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Right. The home screens are always in portrait mode.

Best,
Anna



On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> The home screens don't appear to be in landscape. If I flick from left to 
> right across the long way with the phone held the long way after trying to 
> reorient it I still only get the spelling of one app and the number of apps 
> in it. When going from left to right across the narrow way that is when I get 
> the row of apps so I would think this is still portrait mode. I was thinking 
> I used to be able to have a longer row of apps and flick across the long way 
> on the iPhone but maybe I am confused and that only works on the iPad. I know 
> this worked somewhere but it has been a long time since I tried it. 
> I know that now when I go into braille touch it announces that it is in 
> landscape ode and when I go back to the home screen it says "portrait mode" 
> so I think the home screens are not in landscape mode.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think the writer wrote him instead of Home. So you would open Control 
>> Center by touching above the Home button and sliding your finger upward. I 
>> find the status bar method is more reliable.
>> 
>> To make the phone switch orientation, turn it so a short end is toward the 
>> top if you want portrait, or a long end if you want landscape. Lay it flat, 
>> and then tilt the screen toward you until the screen is perpendicular to the 
>> floor. The orientation should shift. Note that the orientation is always in 
>> landscape on the home screens, however, and in some apps it is locked to 
>> either portrait or landscape.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sure it must be obvious but what is a "him" button? are you using an 
>>> abbreviation or am I just not connecting? I did manage to do it again with 
>>> the status bar. Orientation lock is off but the phone still doesn't go into 
>>> landscape mode when I turn and tilt it. I have no trouble doing the 
>>> notification center with the status bar method.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above 
 the him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, 
 rising in pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch 
 the status bar and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds 
 true for the Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for 
 the tones, and slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger 
 swipe down.
 
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 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> 
> I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for 
> moving an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. 
> First of all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've 
> only managed to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to 
> remove apps from the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from 
> the bottom of the screen to get to the control center seems almost 
> impossible to me and apparently this is the way to get to orientation 
> lock. The one time I got into the control center I tapped to turn the 
> orientation lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect and I can't 
> get back into the control center. Is there any other way to get to the 
> orientation lock? Can somebody give me a tip that will help to open the 
> control center?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
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Re: blocking calls

[Bill Gallik]

Well Alan, as Sieghard has suggested; "Blocked Calls" has different meanings 
depending on the source of the block.

I could contact my mobile provider (AT&T) and, for a fee, ask them to block any 
number of given numbers.  In this case, "Blocked Calls" would mean the calls 
never reach my iPhone (as is the case with the "Blocked Numbers List" with my 
Charter Communications land line.

But all "Blocked Calls" means in the context of the iOS feature is that calls 
from that number(s) are routed into a "Blocked Calls" list in the Voice Mail 
tab of the native phone app.  And Sieghard's thoughts on the matter make 
perfectly sound sense.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another."
- German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: blocking calls


  Bill, blocking a call means just that.  You don't want to talk to that 
person.  All the blocked caller feature does is to kick that caller to voice 
mail.  They can still leave you a voice message but you still can delete it 
with out listening to it.

  Regards,

  Alan

  Please click on: 
  HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Bill Gallik 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: blocking calls


Tom;

When you say, "blocking calls," just exactly what do you mean?  And what 
exactly do you mean when you say this isn't working?

When I block calls the calling party is placed immediately into my voice 
mail to leave a message.  My point is, it really isn't "blocking calls" so much 
as it just means you don't need to answer or ignore the caller.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
- Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Rash 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:18 AM
  Subject: blocking calls


  I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within 
voice mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double 
tap that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something?  

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Re: Syncing calendar to facebook

[David Chittenden]

Double-tap on the calendars button at the centre bottom of the display in 
calendar. Go through the list of calendars and make sure FaceBook is selected. 

I suspect there may be a bug as my calendar is not displaying FaceBook 
birthdays even though I have this option selected. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Jan 2014, at 8:31, "DJ Reese"  wrote:
> 
> Hi list:
> 
> In I O S 6 it was possible to sync the calendar to facebook so you could see 
> who's birthday was on a given day.  How can this be done within I O S 7.04? 
> Thanks!
> 
> DJ Reese
> 
> Download and install the new Peachtree Radio fM app available in the 
> Android, Apple and Black berry app stores today.
> Peachtree Radio FM.  where some listen to remember and some listen to 
> forget.
> www.peachtreeradiofm.com 
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Re: blocking calls

[Bill Gallik]

Great point Sieghard!

As a retiree of the former AT&T this should have been obvious to me.  Somehow 
though, I had never given the thought much consideration.

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- "With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another."
- German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 1:21 PM
  Subject: RE: blocking calls


  Hi Bill and Isaac,

   

  Yes, blocked callers still reach your iPhone, but as you experienced, they 
are directly forwarded to voice mail. To me it is obvious that this would have 
to be so since it is an iOS feature and not a carrier feature. Apple is a big 
and probably influential company, but not every carrier in the world would 
immediately block all the numbers every iPhone user puts on their blocked 
caller list. That would mean Apple would somehow communicate this list to 
whoever your carrier is and they would have to block these numbers at the 
switch level at no cost to the user. 

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:43 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: blocking calls

   

  When I installed iOS 7.0 onto my iPhone5 and discovered the "Block Caller" 
feature in Contacts I decided to try blocking my home phone from my mobile 
account.  What resulted when I attempted to call my mobile phone from my home 
phone is that I was placed immediately into Voice Mail with no indication from 
the iPhone that my home phone had ever tried to call.  I figured, "Good Enough."

   

  Then, after receiving several calls that got "normally" routed to my Voice 
Mail, I went into the "Voice Mail" tab for the phone app.  What I found there 
was that the call from my home phone had been routed into a "Blocked Callers" 
list.  I could choose to listen to the message or delete it without any further 
attention being paid to it.

   

  This "Block Caller" feature is not like the block caller features implemented 
at the switches.  With my Charter Communications landline telephone service I 
can identify telephone numbers to quite literally block.  And if you call your 
mobile provider and ask them to block a telephone number, it will indeed be 
blocked in that you'll never know that number ever attempted to contact you.  
This "Block Caller" on iOS 7.??? devices isn't quite that omnipotent, but at 
least you never really have to deal with said calls (or voice mails) if you 
choose to not do so.

  
  Holland's Boy, Bill
  - "With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another."
  - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)

- Original Message - 

From: isaac 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:03 AM

Subject: Re: blocking calls

 

So what you are saying is that when you block the caller it really doesn’t 
block the caller? I thought when you block a caller  they can’t iMessage call 
or FaceTime you.

On Jan 27, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:





  Tom;

   

  When you say, "blocking calls," just exactly what do you mean?  And what 
exactly do you mean when you say this isn't working?

   

  When I block calls the calling party is placed immediately into my voice 
mail to leave a message.  My point is, it really isn't "blocking calls" so much 
as it just means you don't need to answer or ignore the caller.

  
  Holland's Boy, Bill
  - "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
  - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004

- Original Message -

From: Tom Rash

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:18 AM

Subject: blocking calls

 

I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within 
voice mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double 
tap that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something? 

 

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RE: blocked number

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If your call display shows a number as Blocked that means the other party is
blocking their number from showing up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tarapprakash
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blocked number

Dear all. I deleted a number but did never block it. When  receive calls
from that number, my phone shows it as blocked number. I cannot call back on
that number. So, does it mean that when you delete a number Iphone will
block the id for that number? what can I do to avoid that from happening in
case of other contacts? 
Thanks for any inputs.;

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Re: Text of Notes Showing Up in Inbox

[Kimber Gardner]

Thanks for this. I have been trying to stop the emailing of my notes
for a while now and couldn't figure out how to do it.

On 1/25/14, Chris H  wrote:
> Hi
> go to settings mail contacts and calendar double tap on the Gmail
> account and turn off notes.
>
> Regards Chris
>
> On 25/01/2014 17:03, Connie Skeen wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> My friend has an iPhone 5S running latest IOS.  He has a Gmail account.
>> Any note that he creates in the Notes app is automatically showing up in
>> his e-mail inbox.  Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Connie Skeen
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Re: blocking calls

[Alan Paganelli]

Bill, blocking a call means just that.  You don't want to talk to that person.  
All the blocked caller feature does is to kick that caller to voice mail.  They 
can still leave you a voice message but you still can delete it with out 
listening to it.

Regards,

Alan

Please click on: 
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Gallik 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 7:50 AM
  Subject: Re: blocking calls


  Tom;

  When you say, "blocking calls," just exactly what do you mean?  And what 
exactly do you mean when you say this isn't working?

  When I block calls the calling party is placed immediately into my voice mail 
to leave a message.  My point is, it really isn't "blocking calls" so much as 
it just means you don't need to answer or ignore the caller.
  
  Holland's Boy, Bill
  - "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
  - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Rash 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:18 AM
Subject: blocking calls


I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within voice 
mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double tap 
that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something?  

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blocked number

[Tarapprakash]

Dear all. I deleted a number but did never block it. When  receive calls 
from that number, my phone shows it as blocked number. I cannot call back on 
that number. So, does it mean that when you delete a number Iphone will block 
the id for that number? what can I do to avoid that from happening in case of 
other contacts? 
Thanks for any inputs.;

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Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Marianne Denning]

There are several companies I have learned about because of these
types of posts.  Why should we, as blind people, be left out of the
advertising process?  I have received enough information from the
little bit of information the count down provided to decide if I
wanted to read further or not.  I think the "advertising" has given me
additional information about the company and I appreciate it.  Please
keep sending these emails.

On 1/27/14, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
> I'm sorry to say that I also find this practice very annoying. I get
> this in their email messages as well and I never follow the links and
> I'll probably be unsubscribing from that email list because of this. I
> understand the intent is to drive up the hit counters for the web site
> and that is their choice but I feel if one has info to offer, just do it
> without making people plow through a bunch of advertising.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rick alfaro
>
> On 1/26/2014 6:02 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:
>> I find these "hooks" to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and
>> offer any additional advertising) very annoying.  As others have stated,
>> if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the
>> app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind
>> community.
>> 
>> Holland's Boy, Bill
>> - "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
>> - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004
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Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Gary Petraccaro]

I'm pretty much in your group as far as the messages go, but it would be 
nice to see a list of entries for the top ten rather than just a given 
day's.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!


These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be 
blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure 
they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles 
have a "drum roll please" feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't 
have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think 
hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that 
big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to 
follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site 
is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser.


On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote:

Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was
auto deleting them.



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Alex Hall
*Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Cc:* 
*Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few
sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will
not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like
questionable promotions than helpful messages.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, "Neal Ewers" mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>> wrote:


Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some
information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page
to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that
tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on
your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I
have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of
worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any
means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10
apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least
some basic information.

Neal

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg
*Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

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Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support

website

Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801

Fax: 888-467-2162

ma...@fedoraoutlier.com 

Twitter

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newsletter Hello, everyone,

It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if
it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating.
But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5
on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this!

Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka

Have a terrific day!

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Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Rick Alfaro]

Excellent post which reflects my feelings on this. I certainly don't 
intend to ridicule anyone's hard work and don't mind these messages 
being posted here but as you say, just a little more info would attract 
more people for the right reasons.




Best Regards,

Rick alfaro

On 1/26/2014 6:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

I don’t think anyone here is trying to put down the work you guys have done, 
and yes, website traffic is the goal of most blogs and similar services. 
However, this:

Check out this app, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps list: [url]

says nothing except that you only had time to type up a sentence and then paste 
the link. This:

Check out Sendero GPS, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps! With Sendero GPS, you can 
plan routes, explore distant locations, discover nearby points of interest, 
figure out where you are, and so much more! Check out our review: [url]

makes me really want to know more, because that sounds like a great app and I 
want to know what else you have to say about it.

To be very clear: I have no problem whatsoever with you guys posting these app 
picks here, and I even welcome it as it lets newer list members in on some 
possibly useful tools for them to go try. However, when is the last time you 
clicked a link because someone basically said “click this link”? I never do, 
and I’m sure most people don’t, because I have absolutely no idea what the link 
goes to and if it is worth it. Giving us just a one-sentence summary of the 
app, and the app’s name, provides that missing information and will, it seems 
to me, make people more likely to click through to the website. Maybe I’m off 
base here, but those are my opinions. Again, I’m more than fine with you guys 
posting content like this, and would suggest doing it more than once a year, 
but you may want to look at how you are trying to draw people in.
On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:


Hello Christopher,

As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having 
anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because 
I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working 
very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying 
to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is 
done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps 
I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading 
our posts.

Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team 
members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that 
app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which 
in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have 
accomplished this.

When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit 
the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown.

Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip 
its  in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click 
that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair 
for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that 
hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get 
noticed.

I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not 
hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend 
them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize  because it was not my intent.

Scott Rumery

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Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Rick Alfaro]

I'm sorry to say that I also find this practice very annoying. I get 
this in their email messages as well and I never follow the links and 
I'll probably be unsubscribing from that email list because of this. I 
understand the intent is to drive up the hit counters for the web site 
and that is their choice but I feel if one has info to offer, just do it 
without making people plow through a bunch of advertising.




Best Regards,

Rick alfaro

On 1/26/2014 6:02 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:

I find these "hooks" to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and
offer any additional advertising) very annoying.  As others have stated,
if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the
app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind
community.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
- Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004

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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Cheryl Homiak]

The home screens don't appear to be in landscape. If I flick from left to right 
across the long way with the phone held the long way after trying to reorient 
it I still only get the spelling of one app and the number of apps in it. When 
going from left to right across the narrow way that is when I get the row of 
apps so I would think this is still portrait mode. I was thinking I used to be 
able to have a longer row of apps and flick across the long way on the iPhone 
but maybe I am confused and that only works on the iPad. I know this worked 
somewhere but it has been a long time since I tried it. 
I know that now when I go into braille touch it announces that it is in 
landscape ode and when I go back to the home screen it says "portrait mode" so 
I think the home screens are not in landscape mode.


-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)





On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I think the writer wrote him instead of Home. So you would open Control 
> Center by touching above the Home button and sliding your finger upward. I 
> find the status bar method is more reliable.
> 
> To make the phone switch orientation, turn it so a short end is toward the 
> top if you want portrait, or a long end if you want landscape. Lay it flat, 
> and then tilt the screen toward you until the screen is perpendicular to the 
> floor. The orientation should shift. Note that the orientation is always in 
> landscape on the home screens, however, and in some apps it is locked to 
> either portrait or landscape.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure it must be obvious but what is a "him" button? are you using an 
>> abbreviation or am I just not connecting? I did manage to do it again with 
>> the status bar. Orientation lock is off but the phone still doesn't go into 
>> landscape mode when I turn and tilt it. I have no trouble doing the 
>> notification center with the status bar method.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above 
>>> the him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, 
>>> rising in pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch 
>>> the status bar and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds 
>>> true for the Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for 
>>> the tones, and slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger 
>>> swipe down.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 
 I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for 
 moving an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. 
 First of all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've 
 only managed to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to 
 remove apps from the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from 
 the bottom of the screen to get to the control center seems almost 
 impossible to me and apparently this is the way to get to orientation 
 lock. The one time I got into the control center I tapped to turn the 
 orientation lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect and I can't get 
 back into the control center. Is there any other way to get to the 
 orientation lock? Can somebody give me a tip that will help to open the 
 control center?
 
 Thanks.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 "This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness."
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Steve]

Yeah, and I didn't join this list to get advertised and promoted.  I joined 
for a Q&A response where something in the way of knowledge could be 
imparted.


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Rumery" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!


Hello Christopher,

As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having 
anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just 
because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has 
been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say 
that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not 
mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our 
list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on 
this list that might enjoy reading our posts.


Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team 
members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about 
that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of 
writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I 
believe that we have accomplished this.


When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you 
hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a 
countdown.


Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog 
snip its  in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not 
to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that 
it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create 
content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just 
trying to get noticed.


I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will 
not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to 
offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize  because it was not my 
intent.


Scott Rumery

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Re: Guitar App On iOS?

[shaf]

There are lots of them. Search for Guitar in the app store and I'm
sure you'll find lots of free tutorials.

On 1/27/14, Desi Noller  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any accessible Apps that teach
> Guitar picking styles?  I have been playing for many years, but would like
> to learn how to spice up my playing a little.  Any input would be most
> appreciated!
>
> Desi
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Writing WithBraille On iOS

[Scott Rumery]

Hello All,

Here is the app that made it to number four on our countdown of the top ten 
apps of 2013.

I think that you all can guess what this app is just by looking at the subject 
line. For those of us that use Braille on a regular basis this app is a 
definite must have for our iOS devices. Again, I am sorry for those that would 
like me to reveal the name in this message, but I have been told by my team 
leader not to and his reasons make perfect sense to me.

Without a due  here is the link:


http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/fedora-outliers-number-one-app-of-2013-brought-to-you-by-how-to-be-blind-coming-at-number-4-is/

Scott Rumery

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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I think the writer wrote him instead of Home. So you would open Control Center 
by touching above the Home button and sliding your finger upward. I find the 
status bar method is more reliable.

To make the phone switch orientation, turn it so a short end is toward the top 
if you want portrait, or a long end if you want landscape. Lay it flat, and 
then tilt the screen toward you until the screen is perpendicular to the floor. 
The orientation should shift. Note that the orientation is always in landscape 
on the home screens, however, and in some apps it is locked to either portrait 
or landscape.

HTH,
Anna



On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> I'm sure it must be obvious but what is a "him" button? are you using an 
> abbreviation or am I just not connecting? I did manage to do it again with 
> the status bar. Orientation lock is off but the phone still doesn't go into 
> landscape mode when I turn and tilt it. I have no trouble doing the 
> notification center with the status bar method.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above the 
>> him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, rising 
>> in pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch the 
>> status bar and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds true for 
>> the Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for the tones, 
>> and slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger swipe down.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for 
>>> moving an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. 
>>> First of all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've 
>>> only managed to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to 
>>> remove apps from the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from 
>>> the bottom of the screen to get to the control center seems almost 
>>> impossible to me and apparently this is the way to get to orientation lock. 
>>> The one time I got into the control center I tapped to turn the orientation 
>>> lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect and I can't get back into 
>>> the control center. Is there any other way to get to the orientation lock? 
>>> Can somebody give me a tip that will help to open the control center?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Syncing calendar to facebook

[DJ Reese]

Hi list:

In I O S 6 it was possible to sync the calendar to facebook so you could see 
who's birthday was on a given day.  How can this be done within I O S 7.04? 
Thanks!

DJ Reese

Download and install the new Peachtree Radio fM app available in the 
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Peachtree Radio FM.  where some listen to remember and some listen to 
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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Cheryl Homiak]

Oh cool! I didn't know about the home button method! Still can't change 
orientation!

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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)





On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Sorry, auto correct. I meant the home button. 
> 
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure it must be obvious but what is a "him" button? are you using an 
>> abbreviation or am I just not connecting? I did manage to do it again with 
>> the status bar. Orientation lock is off but the phone still doesn't go into 
>> landscape mode when I turn and tilt it. I have no trouble doing the 
>> notification center with the status bar method.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above 
>>> the him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, 
>>> rising in pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch 
>>> the status bar and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds 
>>> true for the Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for 
>>> the tones, and slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger 
>>> swipe down.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 
 I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for 
 moving an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. 
 First of all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've 
 only managed to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to 
 remove apps from the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from 
 the bottom of the screen to get to the control center seems almost 
 impossible to me and apparently this is the way to get to orientation 
 lock. The one time I got into the control center I tapped to turn the 
 orientation lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect and I can't get 
 back into the control center. Is there any other way to get to the 
 orientation lock? Can somebody give me a tip that will help to open the 
 control center?
 
 Thanks.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 "This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness."
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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Cheryl Homiak]

Good tipe about the braille display - thanks! And I am getting better at doing 
it from the status bar. But turning orientation lock on and off does not at all 
seem to be allowing me to change orientation between portrait and landscape.

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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)





On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> One thing to add: If you're using a braille display, you can use dots 
> 2-5-space from anywhere to go into the control center.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above the 
>> him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, rising 
>> in pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch the 
>> status bar and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds true for 
>> the Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for the tones, 
>> and slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger swipe down.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for 
>>> moving an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. 
>>> First of all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've 
>>> only managed to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to 
>>> remove apps from the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from 
>>> the bottom of the screen to get to the control center seems almost 
>>> impossible to me and apparently this is the way to get to orientation lock. 
>>> The one time I got into the control center I tapped to turn the orientation 
>>> lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect and I can't get back into 
>>> the control center. Is there any other way to get to the orientation lock? 
>>> Can somebody give me a tip that will help to open the control center?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Alex Hall]

Sorry, auto correct. I meant the home button. 

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On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> I'm sure it must be obvious but what is a "him" button? are you using an 
> abbreviation or am I just not connecting? I did manage to do it again with 
> the status bar. Orientation lock is off but the phone still doesn't go into 
> landscape mode when I turn and tilt it. I have no trouble doing the 
> notification center with the status bar method.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above the 
>> him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, rising 
>> in pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch the 
>> status bar and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds true for 
>> the Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for the tones, 
>> and slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger swipe down.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for 
>>> moving an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. 
>>> First of all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've 
>>> only managed to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to 
>>> remove apps from the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from 
>>> the bottom of the screen to get to the control center seems almost 
>>> impossible to me and apparently this is the way to get to orientation lock. 
>>> The one time I got into the control center I tapped to turn the orientation 
>>> lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect and I can't get back into 
>>> the control center. Is there any other way to get to the orientation lock? 
>>> Can somebody give me a tip that will help to open the control center?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Teresa Cochran]

One thing to add: If you’re using a braille display, you can use dots 2-5-space 
from anywhere to go into the control center.

HtH,
Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above the 
> him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, rising 
> in pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch the 
> status bar and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds true for 
> the Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for the tones, 
> and slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger swipe down.
> 
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for 
>> moving an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. 
>> First of all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've 
>> only managed to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to 
>> remove apps from the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from 
>> the bottom of the screen to get to the control center seems almost 
>> impossible to me and apparently this is the way to get to orientation lock. 
>> The one time I got into the control center I tapped to turn the orientation 
>> lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect and I can't get back into the 
>> control center. Is there any other way to get to the orientation lock? Can 
>> somebody give me a tip that will help to open the control center?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: blocking calls

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Bill and Isaac,

 

Yes, blocked callers still reach your iPhone, but as you experienced, they
are directly forwarded to voice mail. To me it is obvious that this would
have to be so since it is an iOS feature and not a carrier feature. Apple is
a big and probably influential company, but not every carrier in the world
would immediately block all the numbers every iPhone user puts on their
blocked caller list. That would mean Apple would somehow communicate this
list to whoever your carrier is and they would have to block these numbers
at the switch level at no cost to the user. 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: blocking calls

 

When I installed iOS 7.0 onto my iPhone5 and discovered the "Block Caller"
feature in Contacts I decided to try blocking my home phone from my mobile
account.  What resulted when I attempted to call my mobile phone from my
home phone is that I was placed immediately into Voice Mail with no
indication from the iPhone that my home phone had ever tried to call.  I
figured, "Good Enough."

 

Then, after receiving several calls that got "normally" routed to my Voice
Mail, I went into the "Voice Mail" tab for the phone app.  What I found
there was that the call from my home phone had been routed into a "Blocked
Callers" list.  I could choose to listen to the message or delete it without
any further attention being paid to it.

 

This "Block Caller" feature is not like the block caller features
implemented at the switches.  With my Charter Communications landline
telephone service I can identify telephone numbers to quite literally block.
And if you call your mobile provider and ask them to block a telephone
number, it will indeed be blocked in that you'll never know that number ever
attempted to contact you.  This "Block Caller" on iOS 7.??? devices isn't
quite that omnipotent, but at least you never really have to deal with said
calls (or voice mails) if you choose to not do so.


Holland's Boy, Bill
- "With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in
another."
- German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)

- Original Message - 

From: isaac   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:03 AM

Subject: Re: blocking calls

 

So what you are saying is that when you block the caller it really doesn’t
block the caller? I thought when you block a caller  they can’t iMessage
call or FaceTime you.

On Jan 27, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@charter.net> > wrote:





Tom;

 

When you say, "blocking calls," just exactly what do you mean?  And what
exactly do you mean when you say this isn't working?

 

When I block calls the calling party is placed immediately into my voice
mail to leave a message.  My point is, it really isn't "blocking calls" so
much as it just means you don't need to answer or ignore the caller.


Holland's Boy, Bill
- "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
- Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004

- Original Message -

From: Tom Rash  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:18 AM

Subject: blocking calls

 

I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within voice
mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double
tap that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something? 

 

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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Cheryl Homiak]

I'm sure it must be obvious but what is a "him" button? are you using an 
abbreviation or am I just not connecting? I did manage to do it again with the 
status bar. Orientation lock is off but the phone still doesn't go into 
landscape mode when I turn and tilt it. I have no trouble doing the 
notification center with the status bar method.

Thanks.


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On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above the 
> him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, rising 
> in pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch the 
> status bar and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds true for 
> the Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for the tones, 
> and slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger swipe down.
> 
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for 
>> moving an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. 
>> First of all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've 
>> only managed to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to 
>> remove apps from the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from 
>> the bottom of the screen to get to the control center seems almost 
>> impossible to me and apparently this is the way to get to orientation lock. 
>> The one time I got into the control center I tapped to turn the orientation 
>> lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect and I can't get back into the 
>> control center. Is there any other way to get to the orientation lock? Can 
>> somebody give me a tip that will help to open the control center?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Orientation lock: iOS7

[Alex Hall]

There are two ways in iOS7. First, the one you managed: touch just above the 
him button and leave your finger there until you hear two pop sounds, rising in 
pitch. Then, slide your finger straight up. Alternatively, touch the status bar 
and swipe three fingers up. Incidentally, the same holds true for the 
Notifications Center - touch the top of the screen, wait for the tones, and 
slide down, or touch the status bar and do a three-finger swipe down.

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On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for moving 
> an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. First of 
> all, is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've only managed 
> to do it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to remove apps from 
> the app switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from the bottom of the 
> screen to get to the control center seems almost impossible to me and 
> apparently this is the way to get to orientation lock. The one time I got 
> into the control center I tapped to turn the orientation lock off but it 
> didn't seem to have any effect and I can't get back into the control center. 
> Is there any other way to get to the orientation lock? Can somebody give me a 
> tip that will help to open the control center?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: About itunes

[Chris H]

And dare I say Apple themselves recommend Window-Eyes for their iTunes 
program. Look somewhere on their website and it will tell you just that.


Regards Chris

On 27/01/2014 14:03, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi, in addition, as newer versions of iTunes are released, they will
only work good with newer versions of screen reader programs. If you
can't afford the newest Jaws 15 upgrade, you could consider switching to
Window-Eyes, which is now free if you have Office 2010 or newer
installed. See http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com if you want to know
more about that. The 8.4 version of Window-Eyes and the latest iTunes
work well together on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.

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On 1/26/2014 6:20 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi,

You’re right.  JAWS 13 does not claim to support Windows 8.  Freedom, to
my knowledge, only started supporting Windows 8 in version 14 and, it
had problems.  If at all possible, I would suggest going to JAWS 15 with
Windows 8.

Ron & Danvers

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:24 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: About itunes

I am using Windows 8.1 and Window-Eyes and having no problems.

I did not know that JAWS 13 would work with Windows 8.

Have you tried NVDA as an alternative?

Or, unload JAWS and run Narrator then iTunes and see if it keeps running.

Then you can tell if it is an issue with iTunes, or with JAWS.

HTH,


Richard

(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)


On Jan 26, 2014, at 12:17 PM, "Carol anne et al"
mailto:carol.anne.protec...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Every time I sign into itunes, after about 5 minutes, it says
windows is having a problem, the programme needs to close. And then
it shuts out of itunes. Its driving me crazy. Anyone else
experiencing this? I’m using jaws 13 and windows 8.

And I just updated itunes on Friday to the latest version so that I
could use Itunes match.

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Orientation lock: iOS7

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi all.

I was trying to unlock orientation because I wanted landscape mode for moving 
an app into a folder that was hard to get to with portrait mode. First of all, 
is there any easy way to get into the control center? I've only managed to do 
it once and I thik that was an accident; swiping up to remove apps from the app 
switcher gives me no problem but swiping up from the bottom of the screen to 
get to the control center seems almost impossible to me and apparently this is 
the way to get to orientation lock. The one time I got into the control center 
I tapped to turn the orientation lock off but it didn't seem to have any effect 
and I can't get back into the control center. Is there any other way to get to 
the orientation lock? Can somebody give me a tip that will help to open the 
control center?

Thanks.

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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)





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Guitar App On iOS?

[Desi Noller]

Hi Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any accessible Apps that teach 
Guitar picking styles?  I have been playing for many years, but would like to 
learn how to spice up my playing a little.  Any input would be most appreciated!

Desi

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Re: Accessible twitter apps

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, I'm not seeing this in TweetList.

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On 1/23/2014 5:49 AM, Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan wrote:

Did anyone else recognize that the sound that is played when new tweets
arrive isn't played anymore although sound effects are turned on? Another
thing is that the number of tweets is only spoken occasionally, not always.
The VoiceOver bug that's mentioned in the update notes (cursor  jumps back
to top of list when interacting with a tweet) doesn't seem to be fixed. But
the worst thing is that I can't seem to read older tweets. In the previous
version, you had this "load more" element that was shown after approximately
99 tweets. This isn't directly visibl!a anymore. Now, you read tweet number
99, and afterwards, it says "read more". But I don't know how to double-tab
on this. When you move to the right, you can only read the older tweets. Can
anyone help? Thanks!


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From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible twitter apps


It supports streaming, so timelines are updated as soon as tweets arrive.
The notifications I was talking about are push notifications. Tweetlist
checks every few minutes and alerts you, but Twitterrific is always waiting,
so can push an alert immediately. It also supports more than mentions and
DMs - it does follows, favorites of your tweets, and retweets even where you
are not mentioned.
On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:


Alex,
Can you explain that real time notification further? Do you mean it
gives you push notifications, or that it updates the timelines of new
tweets quicker than TweetList? Please explain.

Regards,
Wayne

On 1/22/14, Alex Hall  wrote:

Just some corrections here. Tweetlist is a great app, but twitterrific
has
most of the functionality you say you prefer in Tweetlist. It has
separate
tweets, mentions, and messages views, it *can* show everything in one
list
but you can turn that off, you can retweet, reply, and so on without
opening
a tweet, it fully supports managing lists (as of today), and it supports
live streaming. Both apps cost about the same, though Twitterrific is on
sale for $0.99 for a limited time, so you may just want to grab both. My
only gripe with Twitterrific is that you have to open a link in the
in-app
browser before you can send the link to a read later service, but other
than
that it does everything Tweetlist does. In fact, it goes a step further,
giving real-time notifications, instead of the interval-based checking
Tweetlist does.
On Jan 22, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:


For what it's worht, TweetList put out an updated app not long ago and
it is now called TweetList 4, which is version 4. This is important
since it works with the newer twitterAPI's and better on iOS 7.
TweetList works great if you use lists in Twitter. I like it a lot
since there are gestures you can use to bring up different things, so
I don't have to open a tweet if I want to retweet it or open its
linked URL. Other apps may have different ways of doing this, but I
like how TweetList 4 does it. I also like the different tabs at the
bottom of the screen, for my home timeline, and other specific tabs
just for mentions and direct messages. I would rather have these
categories be in different tabs verses mixed up in one big lump. Your
milage may vary, :)

Wayne

On 1/22/14, isaac  wrote:

First there is a app called tweet list  and then there is twitterific.
I
use
twitterific for my every day twitter use. It is very accessible  with
voiceover.
On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Carla Laesch Etheredge
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Hi, was wondering what other twitter apps that work good? I've tried
the
twitter for iPhone, but hv trouble with it. Can any1 suggest some
other
apps? Thanks, Carla

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Re: Accessible twitter apps

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Twitterific is the app I use on a dayley bases.
On Jan 27, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

> Hi, no doubt you will get a lot of responses. TweetList4 and Twitterific5 are 
> the two Twitter apps I use.
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>> Hi, was wondering what other twitter apps that work good? I've tried the 
>> twitter for iPhone, but hv trouble with it. Can any1 suggest some other 
>> apps? Thanks, Carla
>> 
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Re: Accessible twitter apps

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Hi, no doubt you will get a lot of responses. TweetList4 and 
Twitterific5 are the two Twitter apps I use.


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On 1/22/2014 12:33 PM, Carla Laesch Etheredge wrote:

Hi, was wondering what other twitter apps that work good? I've tried the 
twitter for iPhone, but hv trouble with it. Can any1 suggest some other apps? 
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Re: blocking calls

[Bill Gallik]

When I installed iOS 7.0 onto my iPhone5 and discovered the "Block Caller" 
feature in Contacts I decided to try blocking my home phone from my mobile 
account.  What resulted when I attempted to call my mobile phone from my home 
phone is that I was placed immediately into Voice Mail with no indication from 
the iPhone that my home phone had ever tried to call.  I figured, "Good Enough."

Then, after receiving several calls that got "normally" routed to my Voice 
Mail, I went into the "Voice Mail" tab for the phone app.  What I found there 
was that the call from my home phone had been routed into a "Blocked Callers" 
list.  I could choose to listen to the message or delete it without any further 
attention being paid to it.

This "Block Caller" feature is not like the block caller features implemented 
at the switches.  With my Charter Communications landline telephone service I 
can identify telephone numbers to quite literally block.  And if you call your 
mobile provider and ask them to block a telephone number, it will indeed be 
blocked in that you'll never know that number ever attempted to contact you.  
This "Block Caller" on iOS 7.??? devices isn't quite that omnipotent, but at 
least you never really have to deal with said calls (or voice mails) if you 
choose to not do so.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another."
- German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
  - Original Message - 
  From: isaac 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:03 AM
  Subject: Re: blocking calls


  So what you are saying is that when you block the caller it really doesn't 
block the caller? I thought when you block a caller  they can't iMessage call 
or FaceTime you.

  On Jan 27, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:


Tom;

When you say, "blocking calls," just exactly what do you mean?  And what 
exactly do you mean when you say this isn't working?

When I block calls the calling party is placed immediately into my voice 
mail to leave a message.  My point is, it really isn't "blocking calls" so much 
as it just means you don't need to answer or ignore the caller.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
- Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004
  - Original Message -
  From: Tom Rash
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:18 AM
  Subject: blocking calls


  I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within 
voice mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double 
tap that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something? 


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Re: leave home

[RobH.]

This is all I wanted to see really, but bet the 3 of us get slayed for 
saying so;  hardly seems fair does it.

Sigh!  Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Mitchel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: leave home


wow! that was so easy! smiles, and all the BS and hype and mystery! smiles! 
t

From: Caitlyn and Maggie
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

it's only blind square.
Caitlyn

On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel  wrote:


  I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it's the way they are 
set up!
  tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like 
sheep to somplace other than the list.
  I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to 
a website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message.
  I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to 
why I am going there.
  so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS 
app? why would I go anywhere to find out?
  From: Hope Paulos
  Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

  I work for Fedora Outlier LLC,  and these messages are legitimate.


  Hope Paulos

  > On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:
  >
  > These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to 
be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure 
they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have 
a "drum roll please" feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a 
problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting 
the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal 
if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link 
is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid 
out and easy to navigate with a browser.
  >
  >> On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote:
  >> Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was
  >> auto deleting them.
  >>
  >> 
  >>
  >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
  >> Behalf Of *Alex Hall
  >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM
  >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
  >> *Cc:* 
  >> *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
  >>
  >> Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few
  >> sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, 
will
  >> not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like
  >> questionable promotions than helpful messages.
  >>
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >>
  >>
  >> On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, "Neal Ewers" > > wrote:
  >>
  >>> Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some
  >>> information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page
  >>> to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that
  >>> tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on
  >>> your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I
  >>> have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of
  >>> worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any
  >>> means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10
  >>> apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least
  >>> some basic information.
  >>>
  >>> Neal
  >>>
  >>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
  >>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg
  >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM
  >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
  >>> *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
  >>>
  >>> --
  >>>
  >>> Marcy weinberg
  >>>
  >>> Junior Partner
  >>>
  >>> Fedora Outlier, LLC
  >>>
  >>> Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support
  >>>
  >>> website
  >>>
  >>> Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801
  >>>
  >>> Fax: 888-467-2162
  >>>
  >>> ma...@fedoraoutlier.com 
  >>>
  >>> Twitter
  >>>
  >>> Facebook
  >>>
  >>> blog
  >>>
  >>> newsletter Hello, everyone,
  >>>
  >>> It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if
  >>> it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating.
  >>> But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5
  >>> on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this!
  >>>
  >>> Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka
  >>>
  >>> Have a terrific day!
  >>>
  >>> Marcy
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Re: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox

[Craig Werner]

Candy, I like Nebulous Notes as well.  I just bought the
non-ad-sponsored version to support the developer.

I want to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread.  I
welcome additional thoughts.  In a couple of days, I plan to send a
summary of my findings to the list.  So far, I have looked at Nebulous
Notes, Notesy, Droptext, and Write 2.

Craig

On 1/27/14, Candy  wrote:
>  I have only used nebulous notes for a couple of days, but, so far,
> I really like it.  It is not cluttered, and you have edit very easily.
> On 1/27/2014 8:10 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> Hi, I love Droptext and PlainText 2 the most. Also, as far as I know,
>> Plain Text 2 is free for now, but might be changed to a paid app. So,
>> if you want to try apps out, now is a good time for this one at least.
>> Write 2 is another good one which allows you to edit files either on
>> the iDevice only or on Dropbox.
>>
>> --
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>> You think your life is hard? Just think, there's a turtle out there
>> that has been flipped on its back and can't get up. - Sheldon Cooper
>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>>
>> On 1/26/2014 9:17 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> PlainText 2 is also very good, completely VoiceOver friendly and the
>>> best
>>> part is that it is free..
>>> NoteMaster is also very good, but it saves the files as .docx even
>>> though
>>> there is no formatting supported other than bullets and headings, no
>>> tabs,
>>> centering, etc.  So, if you want to stick with txt files, my
>>> recommendation
>>> is PlainText 2, which is the new version of PlainText because it was
>>> bought
>>> by another company but they seem to be committed to maintaining the
>>> VoiceOver support.
>>>
>>> I've not used Nebulous, so that might be just as good.  Does it allow
>>> you to
>>> organize files in folders?  PlainText 2 does.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Craig Werner
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:42 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox
>>>
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>>
>>> I am looking for a text editor that is VoiceOver-compatible and syncs
>>> files with a Dropbox account.  I am evaluating Nebulous Notes Lite and
>>> will probably buy the no-ads version of Nebulous Notes if I can't find
>>> an editor I like better.  So far, I am very pleased with Nebulous
>>> Notes Lite.  It has an uncluttered interface, a user's manual,
>>> extensive help, VoiceOver-labeled buttons, and the ability to sync
>>> with any textfile the user has placed on Dropbox.  I have heard good
>>> things about Elements and PlainText, but I have no knowledge on how
>>> well these editors work with VoiceOver.  All help is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>
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RE: blocking calls

[Tom Rash]

Sorry everyone.  False alarm.  Thanks for your help.  I was getting a call
from somewhere like the Virgin Islands.  They wouldn't leave a message and
would call between midnight and 5 A.M.  I never answered the call.  Looks
like some telemarketer or something.  Anyway i blocked the call, and then
the next day I got a call from that number again.  On closer observation the
number was the same except for the last two digits.  So some sort of
telemarketer or something, but the original number was blocked.  Looks like
they're trying to sneak in with a different number.  I just blocked that one
too.  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of isaac
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: blocking calls


So what you are saying is that when you block the caller it really doesn’t
block the caller? I thought when you block a caller  they can’t iMessage
call or FaceTime you.

On Jan 27, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:


Tom;
 
When you say, "blocking calls," just exactly what do you mean?  And what
exactly do you mean when you say this isn't working?
 
When I block calls the calling party is placed immediately into my voice
mail to leave a message.  My point is, it really isn't "blocking calls" so
much as it just means you don't need to answer or ignore the caller.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
- Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004

- Original Message -
From: Tom Rash  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:18 AM
Subject: blocking calls

I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within voice
mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double
tap that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something? 

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Re: blocking calls

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So what you are saying is that when you block the caller it really doesn’t 
block the caller? I thought when you block a caller  they can’t iMessage call 
or FaceTime you.
On Jan 27, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:

> Tom;
>  
> When you say, "blocking calls," just exactly what do you mean?  And what 
> exactly do you mean when you say this isn't working?
>  
> When I block calls the calling party is placed immediately into my voice mail 
> to leave a message.  My point is, it really isn't "blocking calls" so much as 
> it just means you don't need to answer or ignore the caller.
> 
> Holland's Boy, Bill
> - "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
> - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004
> - Original Message -
> From: Tom Rash
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:18 AM
> Subject: blocking calls
> 
> I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within voice 
> mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double tap 
> that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something? 
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Re: blocking calls

[Bill Gallik]

Tom;

When you say, "blocking calls," just exactly what do you mean?  And what 
exactly do you mean when you say this isn't working?

When I block calls the calling party is placed immediately into my voice mail 
to leave a message.  My point is, it really isn't "blocking calls" so much as 
it just means you don't need to answer or ignore the caller.

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter."
- Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer & Dramatist, 1935-2004
  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:18 AM
  Subject: blocking calls


  I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within voice 
mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double tap 
that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something?  

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Re: I need some help with redeeming an app please.

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello Isaac and all,
when I touch the botton right of the screen, there is the update button. 
By swipping left I am getting too many apps to go through.

Thanks for help.
Regards
Maria
On 27.1.2014 16:23, isaac wrote:

To get to the redeem button I usually touch the bottom right of the screen then 
swipe left to get to the redeem button
On Jan 27, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Mária Orovčíková  
wrote:


Hello list,
please does anyone know of any quicker way how to get to "redeem button" in the 
App store?
After  clicking "featured" it takes me ages to get to "redeem button" by 
flicking right/left.
So if there is someone knowing the trick how to do that, please let me know.
I do not want to use Itunes for all that.
Thanks for help.
Maria

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Re: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox

[Candy]

I have only used nebulous notes for a couple of days, but, so far, 
I really like it.  It is not cluttered, and you have edit very easily.

On 1/27/2014 8:10 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, I love Droptext and PlainText 2 the most. Also, as far as I know, 
Plain Text 2 is free for now, but might be changed to a paid app. So, 
if you want to try apps out, now is a good time for this one at least. 
Write 2 is another good one which allows you to edit files either on 
the iDevice only or on Dropbox.


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On 1/26/2014 9:17 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
PlainText 2 is also very good, completely VoiceOver friendly and the 
best

part is that it is free..
NoteMaster is also very good, but it saves the files as .docx even 
though
there is no formatting supported other than bullets and headings, no 
tabs,
centering, etc.  So, if you want to stick with txt files, my 
recommendation
is PlainText 2, which is the new version of PlainText because it was 
bought

by another company but they seem to be committed to maintaining the
VoiceOver support.

I've not used Nebulous, so that might be just as good.  Does it allow 
you to

organize files in folders?  PlainText 2 does.

Good luck,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Craig Werner
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox

Hello, everyone.

I am looking for a text editor that is VoiceOver-compatible and syncs
files with a Dropbox account.  I am evaluating Nebulous Notes Lite and
will probably buy the no-ads version of Nebulous Notes if I can't find
an editor I like better.  So far, I am very pleased with Nebulous
Notes Lite.  It has an uncluttered interface, a user's manual,
extensive help, VoiceOver-labeled buttons, and the ability to sync
with any textfile the user has placed on Dropbox.  I have heard good
things about Elements and PlainText, but I have no knowledge on how
well these editors work with VoiceOver.  All help is appreciated.

Thank you.

Craig





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Re: leave home

[Dave Mitchel]

wow! that was so easy! smiles, and all the BS and hype and mystery! smiles! t

From: Caitlyn and Maggie 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

it’s only blind square. 
Caitlyn

On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel  wrote:


  I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it’s the way they are set 
up! 
  tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep 
to somplace other than the list. 
  I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a 
website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message. 
  I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to why 
I am going there. 
  so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS app? 
why would I go anywhere to find out?
  From: Hope Paulos 
  Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

  I work for Fedora Outlier LLC,  and these messages are legitimate. 


  Hope Paulos

  > On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:
  > 
  > These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be 
blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're 
trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a "drum 
roll please" feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with 
these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key 
on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't 
interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much 
hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to 
navigate with a browser.
  > 
  >> On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote:
  >> Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was
  >> auto deleting them.
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
  >> Behalf Of *Alex Hall
  >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM
  >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
  >> *Cc:* 
  >> *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
  >> 
  >> Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few
  >> sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will
  >> not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like
  >> questionable promotions than helpful messages.
  >> 
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >> 
  >> 
  >> On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, "Neal Ewers" > > wrote:
  >> 
  >>> Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some
  >>> information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page
  >>> to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that
  >>> tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on
  >>> your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I
  >>> have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of
  >>> worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any
  >>> means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10
  >>> apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least
  >>> some basic information.
  >>> 
  >>> Neal
  >>> 
  >>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
  >>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg
  >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM
  >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
  >>> *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
  >>> 
  >>> --
  >>> 
  >>> Marcy weinberg
  >>> 
  >>> Junior Partner
  >>> 
  >>> Fedora Outlier, LLC
  >>> 
  >>> Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support
  >>> 
  >>> website
  >>> 
  >>> Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801
  >>> 
  >>> Fax: 888-467-2162
  >>> 
  >>> ma...@fedoraoutlier.com 
  >>> 
  >>> Twitter
  >>> 
  >>> Facebook
  >>> 
  >>> blog
  >>> 
  >>> newsletter Hello, everyone,
  >>> 
  >>> It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if
  >>> it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating.
  >>> But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5
  >>> on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this!
  >>> 
  >>> Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka
  >>> 
  >>> Have a terrific day!
  >>> 
  >>> Marcy
  >>> 
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Re: I need some help with redeeming an app please.

[isaac]

To get to the redeem button I usually touch the bottom right of the screen then 
swipe left to get to the redeem button
On Jan 27, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Mária Orovčíková  
wrote:

> Hello list,
> please does anyone know of any quicker way how to get to "redeem button" in 
> the App store?
> After  clicking "featured" it takes me ages to get to "redeem button" by 
> flicking right/left.
> So if there is someone knowing the trick how to do that, please let me know.
> I do not want to use Itunes for all that.
> Thanks for help.
> Maria
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Re: Accessible twitter apps

[Jonathan Mosen]

One major issue with Twitterific is that it doesn't sync your read place in 
lists. No big deal if you don't use Twitter lists, but many power users of 
Twitter do.
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On 23/01/2014, at 8:01 am, Serena Nickell  wrote:

> Twitterific is good and accessible.  It's a paid app.  
> Serena
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Carla Laesch Etheredge 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, was wondering what other twitter apps that work good? I've tried the 
>> twitter for iPhone, but hv trouble with it. Can any1 suggest some other 
>> apps? Thanks, Carla 
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Re: Accessible pdf translator app

[Wayne Merritt]

If you open the file within Voice Dream Reader, you should be able to
read it with no issues. Some PDF files are based off of graphics. If
this is the case wit your file, then you may have some issues when
translating it. Voice Dream Reader is available for $9.99, and is well
worth the price if you do a lot of document reading on your phone, or
like to extract text from online articles.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 1/17/14, Akbar Ega  wrote:
> Hi list..
> As subject, is there any accessible app to translate my PDF file?
> Thanks in advance..
>
> Regards,
> Akbar Ega
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Re: blocking calls

[Wayne Merritt]

You might try going to the Recent Calls tab, then double tap the more
info button beside the entry, then go to the bottom of that screen and
you should find the Block Call button. If it has already been blocked,
then there will be an unblock call button.

Regards,
Wayne

On 1/27/14, isaac  wrote:
> I think the caller has to be in you're contacts.
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
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>> I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within
>> voice mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I
>> double tap that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing
>> something?
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Re: blocking calls

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I think the caller has to be in you're contacts.
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> mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double tap 
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Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

it’s only blind square.
Caitlyn

On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel  wrote:

> I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it’s the way they are set 
> up!
> tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep 
> to somplace other than the list.
> I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a 
> website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message.
> I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to why 
> I am going there.
> so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS app? 
> why would I go anywhere to find out?
> From: Hope Paulos
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
>  
> I work for Fedora Outlier LLC,  and these messages are legitimate. 
> 
> 
> Hope Paulos
> 
> > On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be 
> > blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure 
> > they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have 
> > a "drum roll please" feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a 
> > problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting 
> > the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a 
> > deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a 
> > link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply 
> > laid out and easy to navigate with a browser.
> > 
> >> On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote:
> >> Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was
> >> auto deleting them.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> >> Behalf Of *Alex Hall
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM
> >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> *Cc:* 
> >> *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
> >> 
> >> Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few
> >> sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will
> >> not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like
> >> questionable promotions than helpful messages.
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, "Neal Ewers"  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some
> >>> information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page
> >>> to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that
> >>> tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on
> >>> your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I
> >>> have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of
> >>> worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any
> >>> means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10
> >>> apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least
> >>> some basic information.
> >>> 
> >>> Neal
> >>> 
> >>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg
> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM
> >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >>> *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> 
> >>> Marcy weinberg
> >>> 
> >>> Junior Partner
> >>> 
> >>> Fedora Outlier, LLC
> >>> 
> >>> Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support
> >>> 
> >>> website
> >>> 
> >>> Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801
> >>> 
> >>> Fax: 888-467-2162
> >>> 
> >>> ma...@fedoraoutlier.com 
> >>> 
> >>> Twitter
> >>> 
> >>> Facebook
> >>> 
> >>> blog
> >>> 
> >>> newsletter Hello, everyone,
> >>> 
> >>> It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if
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Re: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, I love Droptext and PlainText 2 the most. Also, as far as I know, 
Plain Text 2 is free for now, but might be changed to a paid app. So, if 
you want to try apps out, now is a good time for this one at least. 
Write 2 is another good one which allows you to edit files either on the 
iDevice only or on Dropbox.


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On 1/26/2014 9:17 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

PlainText 2 is also very good, completely VoiceOver friendly and the best
part is that it is free..
NoteMaster is also very good, but it saves the files as .docx even though
there is no formatting supported other than bullets and headings, no tabs,
centering, etc.  So, if you want to stick with txt files, my recommendation
is PlainText 2, which is the new version of PlainText because it was bought
by another company but they seem to be committed to maintaining the
VoiceOver support.

I've not used Nebulous, so that might be just as good.  Does it allow you to
organize files in folders?  PlainText 2 does.

Good luck,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Craig Werner
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for Text Editor that Syncs with Dropbox

Hello, everyone.

I am looking for a text editor that is VoiceOver-compatible and syncs
files with a Dropbox account.  I am evaluating Nebulous Notes Lite and
will probably buy the no-ads version of Nebulous Notes if I can't find
an editor I like better.  So far, I am very pleased with Nebulous
Notes Lite.  It has an uncluttered interface, a user's manual,
extensive help, VoiceOver-labeled buttons, and the ability to sync
with any textfile the user has placed on Dropbox.  I have heard good
things about Elements and PlainText, but I have no knowledge on how
well these editors work with VoiceOver.  All help is appreciated.

Thank you.

Craig



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blocking calls

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I'm trying to block a call on my iPhone 4S.  I go to more info within voice
mail and flick through to the right where I land on block call.  I double
tap that.  The number doesn't seem to get blocked.  Am I missing something?

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Re: Focus 40 vs brailliant BI40

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Hi, one thing which is interesting about the Focus 14 vs the 40 is that 
the scroll buttons on the front are placed differently. On the longer 40 
cell display, the pan buttons are on the extreme left and right, while 
on the 14 cell shorter display, they are more toward the middle. I find 
that the button placement in the middle is better, I just don't care for 
the smaller size displays. I like 32 or 40 for my reading needs.


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On 1/27/2014 7:56 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Hi. I will be getting a Focus 14 Blue soon. Though I haven't used one
with the iPhone in awhile, I know people who do so everyday and who
have no trouble. I'm sure there are quirks with how Braille in iOS
works with a display, but I wouldn't let this stop you. I don't want
to steer you wrong though, so perhaps others with Focus Bluetooth
displays can offer something here. I know that I am very much looking
forward to having and using Braille on the go. I chose the Focus since
it feels great to my fingers and it has a range of controls I can use
to move around on my phone, even when starting or stopping media.

Kind regards,
Wayne Merritt

On 1/26/14, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:

Hi.

I am a fan of brailleant bi 32. I also own a focus 40 blue. If you will need
to use it most for the mac, focus 40 will be ok, but not for IPhone, because
apple has destroyed the functionality with the buttons to go a display line
up and down, so you can only go to next display line with the little button
in the wright corner of the display on the front, and it is not very good
when reading a lot and quickly.

Best regards Annie.
Den 24 Jan 2014 kl. 05:27 skrev Wes :


Hi.
I was looking at the Focus 40 and the brilliant BI for my iPhone and Mac.
What are the differences between the two, and which one is better in your
opinion?  Thanks!

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Re: Focus 40 vs brailliant BI40

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello, I must agree with what you say below. Although you can easily 
press space with dot 5 to scroll forward, it makes it kind of difficult 
to advance right when your fingers are on the display. Reaching the pan 
forward button on the very front and right is a bit of a stretch. Other 
than that, the Focus 40 is a great display. I have it and love it except 
for that annoying little thing. I have considered trading it for the 
Brailliant, but it's only been a thought so far.


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On 1/26/2014 7:55 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

Hi.

I am a fan of brailleant bi 32. I also own a focus 40 blue. If you will
need to use it most for the mac, focus 40 will be ok, but not for
IPhone, because apple has destroyed the functionality with the buttons
to go a display line up and down, so you can only go to next display
line with the little button in the wright corner of the display on the
front, and it is not very good when reading a lot and quickly.

Best regards Annie.
Den 24 Jan 2014 kl. 05:27 skrev Wes mailto:wessmith...@gmail.com>>:


Hi.
I was looking at the Focus 40 and the brilliant BI for my iPhone and
Mac.  What are the differences between the two, and which one is
better in your opinion?  Thanks!

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Re: About itunes

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, in addition, as newer versions of iTunes are released, they will 
only work good with newer versions of screen reader programs. If you 
can't afford the newest Jaws 15 upgrade, you could consider switching to 
Window-Eyes, which is now free if you have Office 2010 or newer 
installed. See http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com if you want to know 
more about that. The 8.4 version of Window-Eyes and the latest iTunes 
work well together on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.


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On 1/26/2014 6:20 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi,

You’re right.  JAWS 13 does not claim to support Windows 8.  Freedom, to
my knowledge, only started supporting Windows 8 in version 14 and, it
had problems.  If at all possible, I would suggest going to JAWS 15 with
Windows 8.

Ron & Danvers

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:24 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: About itunes

I am using Windows 8.1 and Window-Eyes and having no problems.

I did not know that JAWS 13 would work with Windows 8.

Have you tried NVDA as an alternative?

Or, unload JAWS and run Narrator then iTunes and see if it keeps running.

Then you can tell if it is an issue with iTunes, or with JAWS.

HTH,


Richard

(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)


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Every time I sign into itunes, after about 5 minutes, it says
windows is having a problem, the programme needs to close. And then
it shuts out of itunes. Its driving me crazy. Anyone else
experiencing this? I’m using jaws 13 and windows 8.

And I just updated itunes on Friday to the latest version so that I
could use Itunes match.

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Re: Vizwiz Contact info from the website

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, this is why I support and understand why a similar app, Tap Tap See 
has now started charging for their services.


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On 1/26/2014 8:29 PM, Eric Caron wrote:


Hi listers,

I tried yet again to send a picture and question with VizWiz and to my
surprise I got a answer.  I'm not positive the question recording
workek, but still this is the best result I've gotten in a long time.

I also wrote to support and got a thoughtful and positive response back.

I hope that VizWiz can improve and mature as a app.  It seems that they
are also hurting from lack of funding and other changes making it
difficult to reply to the requests.

Eric Caron



On Jan 26, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Nimit mailto:kaur.ni...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello, Everyone, With all the talk about vizwiz, I decided to hunt for
their contact info.   I went to app store, typed vizwiz in the search
tab and when It showed up, I double tapped it. I double tapped on
reviews and app support.  It brought me to their website I clicked on
contact us and here's what I am finding and I selected and copied
using my braille display as it was easy that way.   Here it is:


  We'd love to hear your feedback!

Please send us your questions, comments, rants and raves via the
addresses below:

  * Email: v...@vizwiz.org 
  * Twitter: @rochci 
  * ROC HCI: hci.cs.rochester.edu 
  * Hope many people contact them and I tried with no luck.  I will do
again, so just wanted to pass it along.  Have a good day! Sent
from my super iPhone



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Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!

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Hello. I'd like to echo what Cara has so elegantly stated below. Also, I 
have given the members of Fedora Outlier permission to post on list 
regarding the apps in question. To be blunt, if it's something you don't 
like or agree with, either delete it, or write them privately.


Again, if it's something which you feel has crossed the list policy 
line, please please write me and/or Cara privately, forward the message, 
ETC. We will deal with it, or tell you it's approved, or tell you it's 
not. In either case, it helps keep list traffic down.


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On 1/27/2014 1:48 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

Hi all,

Apologies for the delay in this posting.

OMG! I cannot believe the bandwidth generated from this completely
innocent, well-meaning and helpful original topic.

Before I get started here, let me just establish that not only should
this thread be closed now but if you feel you really need to snipe back
at me for this post, either do it off-list or you will not be allowed to
post here again, no questions asked.

I welcome your comments off the list (agree or disagree) but not on the
list. So remember, when you click send, if you simply want to spout off
against me, the list or its policies, make sure it is a private note to
me or Raul.

Okay, now that that is out of the way, for those who are comparing this
to some kind of 'high-powered' sales pitch? Respectfully, you seem not
to have experienced a true high-powered pitch.

This thread was nothing of the sort and the incredible amount of
unnecessary and negative traffic this has generated is simply over the
top and not welcome here.

I love this community but for God's sake, it never ceases to amaze me
the kinds of things people will look for to complain about and the
vehemence with which the complaints are put forth.

I'm simply saying 'enough!' Move on and leave this.

the original poster and blog were trying to offer something constructive
and useful and instead of responses in that spirit, much of what has
made up this thread is just negative noise.

My personal apologies go out to everyone behind the blog where this
article is hosted as well as to the people who have supported the
poster's right to post here.

This type of thing is perfectly legit on this list.

If anyone has any questions or issues in future, where they find
themselves concerned whether or not a message may or may not be spam;

1 Consider writing us, the list moderators. (myself and Raul)

2 Consider writing the poster themselves if you know that they are a
legitimate list participant. Otherwise see number 1 above.

3 Ignore the message and move on. Simple as that.

None of the above options includes taking it upon yourself to
righteously call the poster(s) out and essentially publicly chastise them.

I hope this makes this crystal clear so we do not run into this on-list
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with me or Raul.

Now, know that we both do have lives so do not expect your concerns to
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Those are the folks I have time for.

If you feel that I've not gotten back with you when I should have then
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I simply want what is best for this list and every person on it. So
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Re: Focus 40 vs brailliant BI40

[Wayne Merritt]

Hi. I will be getting a Focus 14 Blue soon. Though I haven't used one
with the iPhone in awhile, I know people who do so everyday and who
have no trouble. I'm sure there are quirks with how Braille in iOS
works with a display, but I wouldn't let this stop you. I don't want
to steer you wrong though, so perhaps others with Focus Bluetooth
displays can offer something here. I know that I am very much looking
forward to having and using Braille on the go. I chose the Focus since
it feels great to my fingers and it has a range of controls I can use
to move around on my phone, even when starting or stopping media.

Kind regards,
Wayne Merritt

On 1/26/14, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I am a fan of brailleant bi 32. I also own a focus 40 blue. If you will need
> to use it most for the mac, focus 40 will be ok, but not for IPhone, because
> apple has destroyed the functionality with the buttons to go a display line
> up and down, so you can only go to next display line with the little button
> in the wright corner of the display on the front, and it is not very good
> when reading a lot and quickly.
>
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 24 Jan 2014 kl. 05:27 skrev Wes :
>
>> Hi.
>> I was looking at the Focus 40 and the brilliant BI for my iPhone and Mac.
>> What are the differences between the two, and which one is better in your
>> opinion?  Thanks!
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I need some help with redeeming an app please.

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello list,
please does anyone know of any quicker way how to get to "redeem button" 
in the App store?
After  clicking "featured" it takes me ages to get to "redeem button" by 
flicking right/left.

So if there is someone knowing the trick how to do that, please let me know.
I do not want to use Itunes for all that.
Thanks for help.
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Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?

[Liz And Sammie]

Yes, you can use the Apple software update program to download the new version 
of iTunes once you uninstall your old version of iTunes and the Apple 
components on your computer.

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> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:54 AM, "Jen Colley"  wrote:
> 
> Can I download a new version of itunes through the apple software updates 
> program?
> Jen
> 
> -Original Message- From: Liz And Sammie
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
> so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
> 
> I kept the Apple software updates program, but you can uninstall but if you 
> want to. The main thing is to uninstall iTunes and any components related to 
> it such as Bonjour Apple application support etc. As someone else said, 
> uninstalling anything Apple on your computer would not be a bad idea it will 
> come back when you reinstall iTunes. t
> 
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
> 
> 
> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator
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> Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:38 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I would highly suggest deleting all the Apple software and
>> reinstalling from scratch. My problem was different than yours but it
>> solved it. I went as far az cleaning the registry as well. You
>> probably don't need to do that though. Also doing this doesn't cause
>> you to lose your ITunes settings.
>> 
>>> On 1/26/14, Jen Colley  wrote:
>>> Ok, did you leave the apple software updates thing or did you remove that
>>> too?
>>> Jen
>>> I just don’t want to lose anything though it’s all on my phone.
>>> Jen
>>> 
>>> From: Ron Pelletier
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support
>>> so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I deleted everything that was Apple including these two.  They will all come
>>> back when you re-install from a fresh download.  I didn’t lose any data.
>>> When you do a backup, it will warn you that you need to copy your apps on
>>> your iPhone to iTunes if you want them to be brought back in case you need
>>> to restore.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ron & Danvers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Jen Colley
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:40 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support so
>>> should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There is apple mobile device support and apple software support.  Should I
>>> delete both before trying to reinstall itunes or just the apple mobile
>>> device support?
>>> 
>>> Can I then use apple software updates to reinstall itunes again?
>>> 
>>> Jen
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Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?

[Jen Colley]

Can I download a new version of itunes through the apple software updates 
program?

Jen

-Original Message- 
From: Liz And Sammie

Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?


I kept the Apple software updates program, but you can uninstall but if you 
want to. The main thing is to uninstall iTunes and any components related to 
it such as Bonjour Apple application support etc. As someone else said, 
uninstalling anything Apple on your computer would not be a bad idea it will 
come back when you reinstall iTunes. t


Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator

http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:38 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
wrote:


I would highly suggest deleting all the Apple software and
reinstalling from scratch. My problem was different than yours but it
solved it. I went as far az cleaning the registry as well. You
probably don't need to do that though. Also doing this doesn't cause
you to lose your ITunes settings.


On 1/26/14, Jen Colley  wrote:
Ok, did you leave the apple software updates thing or did you remove that
too?
Jen
I just don’t want to lose anything though it’s all on my phone.
Jen

From: Ron Pelletier
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: There is apple software support and apple mobile device 
support

so should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?

Hi,



I deleted everything that was Apple including these two.  They will all 
come

back when you re-install from a fresh download.  I didn’t lose any data.
When you do a backup, it will warn you that you need to copy your apps on
your iPhone to iTunes if you want them to be brought back in case you 
need

to restore.



Ron & Danvers





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Jen Colley
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: There is apple software support and apple mobile device support 
so

should I delete both before reinstalling itunes?



Hi,

There is apple mobile device support and apple software support.  Should 
I

delete both before trying to reinstall itunes or just the apple mobile
device support?

Can I then use apple software updates to reinstall itunes again?

Jen

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RE: The iPhone 5 as a Blogging Tool

[Tracy]

Hi Craig
I use the wordpress app, and it is very accessible. You can do pretty much
everything you can do in the wordpress interface, from within the wordpress
app.

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Subject: RE: The iPhone 5 as a Blogging Tool

Craig,

I don't know about the accessibility of the WordPress app; however, I think
WordPress still allows you to post entries using e-mail. That's not
iPhone-specific. It just seems like a neat feature in general.

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Subject: The iPhone 5 as a Blogging Tool

Hello, everyone.

I plan to start a blog soon.  I am evaluating text editors to use with my
iPhone 5.  Of course, I also need a Blog site.  Are there sites that lend
themselves well to having text sent to them from an iPhone?
Good VoiceOver compatibility is essential.

Thank you.

Craig

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Imessages issue, help please.

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello all,
I want to send an imessage to someone, but when I add her phone number, 
It does not say I am sending an imessage, so I am not sure if it is 
going to be sent as an imessage or a regular message.
On the other hand, when that person send me a reply, she can see it is 
going to be sent as an Imessage.

I have this issue with a particular person only and no one else.
I turned Imessages off and back on, removed that person from my contact 
list and readded her back, but it did not help at all.
I am using Iphone 4 and she is using Iphone 5, but do not think that 
matters because I can send imessages to other people without any issues.
I also do not think there has been something wrong with her phone 
because she can send/receive messages to me and other people.

Please, does anyone know how to solve this?
Thank you for your help.
Regards
Maria

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