Weather Bug In IOS8

[Gary Petraccaro]

There's a bug in the way Siri works with weather.  I have an iPhone 5.  From 
the screen locked

window, I press the home button and say "weather for (city-name).  When I do
it I get silence or I get two beeps which come so quickly that I couldn't
possibly have made my request.

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Related to my i phone 4s please help!

[ram kalia]

Hello team,
when ever any call comes and if I don't receive it and it gets
disconnected, on my screen apple logo comes and I think it restarts
and voiceover turns on automatically and I am  mback on the lock
screen . I am using I phone 4s with ios 7   please help .
if I   restore it and activate as a  new device,  will I be able to
take backup of my apps after the restore from I tunesand my
contacts and mail are sinced with I cloud will I be able to get them
back or not
Try to answer with full description
thanking you in   advance

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Re: Weather Bug In IOS8

[Charles Rivard]

Is that a weather bug, or is it a Siri bug.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Petraccaro" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:06 AM
Subject: Weather Bug In IOS8


There's a bug in the way Siri works with weather.  I have an iPhone 5.  From
the screen locked
window, I press the home button and say "weather for (city-name).  When I do
it I get silence or I get two beeps which come so quickly that I couldn't
possibly have made my request.

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Re: IOS 8 and MBraille

[RobH.]

AppStore, mBraille, mpaja.com.

R.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: IOS 8 and MBraille


where do I find this keyboard?


Kliphton

> On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
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> I am finding that MBraille is working fine with IOS 8.  No problems with 
> sending texts.
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Re: buying refurbished iPad mini / retina

[RobH.]

A device a year old it is assumed, has been used for the past year; so 
longevity is that advanced at that point.  But it takes a while for it to 
become an issue, and you will probably have traded it in before that.
I've not got into batterie issues yet, even with a 3GS, but I didn't keep it 
that long.  Folks who buy end'of'the'road stuff for under $100, expect its 
remaining term to be limited.

Rh.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 1:47 AM
Subject: buying refurbished iPad mini / retina


Hi all,

I'm curious about the batteries inside refurbished iProducts.  Should I 
consider that battery older or more used up, than if I purchase an iPad mini 
/ retina brand new?

Is this something that should be a big deal?

Thanks, biggest bang for my buck, don'tcha know. ;)
Traci

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Re: Solved: URGENT Cannot activate "agree" button to update Pages on iPad with iOS8

[Cheryl Homiak]

Not really solved, but accomplished. I just kept trying and even unlocked so it 
wasn't fixed in portrait mode. The first time I got it, my session had timed 
out so I had to turn the iPad different ways and tap  for several more minutes. 
Finally got the agree button to work which I think must have meant it was 
somehow in better focus but I have no tip for anybody who gets stuck like this 
except keep trying!

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On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> This is a huge problem! I have 29 updates in the app store but nothing is 
> going to update because I can't press the agree button and get it to 
> activate. And the only way out is to close the app store in the app switcher 
> because all the cancel button does is ask me if I am sure and than take me 
> back to the first page of the agreement when I say "yes". I can of course go 
> to my home screen but I can neither agree to this agreement or cancel. when I 
> reopen the app store and start over again to try to update all, the same 
> thing happens. I have tried the keyboard, the braille display, double 
> tapping, holding, even tried to see if I could turn voiceover off and find 
> the button by guessing.
> 
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> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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> And now, every day:
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> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> When I opened Pages, I was given the option to update. I pressed the button 
>> for the App Store and I was given options to download all the related apps. 
>> Then I was presented with an agreement that is 36 pages. An "agree" button 
>> shows at the end of each page. However, I cannot seem to activate the 
>> "agree" button, not on the first page or at the end or anywhere. There 
>> doesn't seem to be any checkbox either and I get no errors. I just can't get 
>> "agree" to activate. But "cancel" will work just fine. Is there something I 
>> need to do or can do to make this work or am I not going to be able to make 
>> purchases from the app store and/or iTunes until this is fixed?
>> 
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>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Notification of text messages on the lock screen

[christopher hallsworth]

This I'm afraid is one of at least thirty bugs found in iOS 8, this documented 
as moderate over at
www.applevis.com
which I encourage you to all visit please to see the bugs that were introduced 
in iOS 8. Thanks!

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 19 Sep 2014, at 22:46, Jim  wrote:

> Sometimes, on the lock screen in iOS 8, I can hear the incoming message tone, 
> but not the subject or the body of the message. In iOS 7, I could hear the 
> tone, followed by the center and the message body of the text message, is 
> there anyway to regain that functionality? Thanks.
> 
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Re: Another voiceover bug in the phone app

[christopher hallsworth]

Voicemail works fine here on an iPhone 4s running iOS 8. In fact I used it 
yesterday to retrieve and delete a voicemail.

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On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:00, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Voicemail works here as well, on an iPhone5. I've gotten that stuck number 
> bug many times, though, and it seems to go away if you just hit the number 
> again. So, if you press 5 and the 5 tone plays on and on, just press 5 a 
> second time and the tone should stop. If not, remove the Phone app from the 
> Ap Switcher. These usually work and I don't need to do a full restart.
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
>> Hi 
>> 
>> I could not reproduce voicemail.  I usevisual voicemail. 
>> The key stuck when passing through digits has been documented but by all 
>> means, tell apple about it. Maybe they'll react faster if they hear from 
>> more people. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Ioana  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> 
>>> When I try to go to the voicemail tab using iOS8 on a 4S, the app closes.  
>>> I did a network reset and a system restore, but this did not solve the 
>>> problem.  The only work around is to turn voiceover off, touch the corner 
>>> where the voicemail icon is, then turn voiceover back on.  I also noticed a 
>>> strange behavior using the dial pad.  Sometimes if I dial a passcode or a 
>>> number while I interact with a voice message requiring me to push a number 
>>> to be transferred somewhere else, I get a constant loud beep that does not 
>>> go away without turning the phone off.  I do not know if anyone else 
>>> noticed such problems or not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It goes without saying that voiceover on iOS8 is the buggiest ever since 
>>> the first release of voiceover several years back.  I can't believe that 
>>> apple chose to overlook all these bugs in spite of the warnings and 
>>> notifications of the beta testers.  It sounds that the genius of apple 
>>> success embodied in seeking perfection or near perfection is now a relic of 
>>> the past.  The bugs are so many and blind users have to search for a work 
>>> around for several important features.  This basically makes me put on hold 
>>> upgrading to iPhone six or six plus because I will be stuck with a buggy 
>>> expensive phone should apple choose to ignore these problems as it did when 
>>> it ignored the recommendations of the beta testers.  This is perhaps a time 
>>> to remember Steve Job who sought perfection before any product was released 
>>> to all sectors of consumers.  May god's mercy be upon him.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Cris
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: What is audio ducking in iOS eight

[christopher hallsworth]

Go to settings > general > accessibility > VoiceOver > rotor and select audio 
ducking.

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On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:01, Anthony Vece  wrote:

> Where is this setting located.
> 
> 
> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> This decreases audio volume when voiceover is speaking, so you can hear 
>> voiceover prompts over your music, etc.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Lea Langley
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 6:27 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What is audio ducking in iOS eight
>> 
>> Hi all, and thank you once again for the help. I hope this will be my last 
>> message concerning iOS 8. I found audio docking in the road rotary and I 
>> don't know what it is at least I put it on my rotor so I could find out 
>> about it and use it if necessary. Thank you all very very much. God bless, 
>> Wren Langley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Jonathan. A very nice, well written book on iOS 8

[christopher hallsworth]

Can I just mention that the book in ePub format works great with the QRead book 
reading program for Windows.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:03, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> Hi Charles, it's available in ePub for use with Voice Dream, iBooks etc. It 
> also comes in accessible PDF, and RTF. One purchase gets all those formats.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 20/09/2014, at 5:50 am, Charles Rivard  wrote:
>> 
>> What format, or formats, is, or are, this book available in, and what is 
>> needed to access it?  Thanks.
>> 
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
>> you! really! are! finished!
>> - Original Message - From: "Les Kriegler" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: Jonathan. A very nice, well written book on iOS 8
>> 
>> 
>> Has the boat been released to the public? I ask because I purchased the 
>> book, but I have not seen any announcements on it's release. Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:36 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, a very nice book indeed!
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
 On 17/09/2014 06:13, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Thanks a lot Neal, really appreciate that a lot, the feedback has been 
 wonderful so far.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
> On 17/09/2014, at 4:41 pm, Neal Ewers  wrote:
> 
> Wow! This is very nice. I feel like I have iOS 8 on my phone already. 
> Thanks very much for all the work that went into this.
> 
> Neal
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Re: Connect your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch using Continuity

[christopher hallsworth]

It should just work. Make sure they're all connected to the same iCloud account 
and wifi network. I got calls working here on my iPhone 4s which doesn't fully 
support continuity and my iPad Mini with Retina which does.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:19, Jim Ruby  wrote:

> I am trying to do with with a ipod touch 5 gen and a iphone 5s I want to
> make and receive calls via the ipod. Any suggestions? Followed all the
> instructions I have found on the web, but still no luck.
> 
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Re: Connect your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch using Continuity

[christopher hallsworth]

You do not need bluetooth to use continuity.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:42, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:

> Just a quick checklist:
> ARe both on same wifi network? is bluetooth on? (Actually not sure if you 
> need this). Are both signed in with same iCloud account?
> HTH,Ioana 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: IOS 8 Released

[Joanne Chua]

Well, with a $100 androy phone you will find that it is more than
likely is not Talkback comparable, because of whatever overlay that
they have on top of Google Stock Androy, and more than likely will
stop at Androy 4.22, which is a crap Androy OS when come to
accessibility. Yes, you can get it work, but is that really worth it,
that is another issue.
Of course, one could argue that it only cost $100, as  compare to
$1000 for an upgrade. If you have that mind set, go ahead, nothing
stopping you on switching over to Androy.
Just bare in mind, whatever phone you choose to get for Androy
platform, make sure you get Androy 4.3 and above. The best entry and
low end level phone for Google Stock Androy is Moto G or Moto E, which
is between $200 and $350 (depending on specific model.

In another word, Androy is good to see, good to touch, is great as a
secondary phone even. But, not all Androy phones are accessible for
the blind. That is the bottom line of the Androy OS.

On 22/09/2014, Ari Moisio  wrote:
> Hi
>
> On the other had one can get Android phones  approx $100  so the backward
> compatibility is not so important.  Also phones with fixed battery have
> much shorter lifespan because replacing the battery will be expensive.
>
>
>
> --
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>
>
>   David Chittenden kirjoitti
>> Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
>> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 10:47:57 +1200
>> From: David Chittenden 
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>>
>> Works with iOS 8 with limitations. Apple does their best to support older
>> hardware, and does a better job than Google and Microsoft. Good luck
>> getting the latest version "of Android working on a four year old Android
>> phone. I also used to have similar problems getting new versions of
>> Windows working on four year old computers.
>>
>> The fact is, technology is always changing. Moore's Law states that device
>> power will double every 18 months. So, a four year old device, such as an
>> iPhone 4S, is the great grandfather to the iphone 6 (three generations
>> ago).
>>
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 10:25, Pablo Morales 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> But the official statement from apple, who is who sold those iPhone 4s,
>>> and
>>> who created IOs8, is that IOs 8, works on iPhone 4s.
>>> So, we should not trust in apple?
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Joanne Chua
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
>>>
>>> Well, first at all, i'm not sure why people will upgrade t heir 4s to
>>> ios8.
>>> There are some key eatures on ios8 that won't be supported by iphone 5c
>>> and
>>> below, and some are quite exclusive to 6 and 6+.
>>> And again, all these support or not supported, for which phones and
>>> which
>>> ios, it is not something new. It is the same old same old arguement from
>>> pretty much the first gen of iphone to now.
>>> People constently have problems reported from an old phone upgraded to
>>> the
>>> new ios.
>>> It is expected.
>>> Apple does say that ios8 can be install on 4s. But if there is no
>>> slaggishness, then, people won't keep upgrading their phone as the new
>>> ios
>>> come out, will they.
>>> Apple do that for a reason, they don't just release a new ios out from
>>> no
>>> where, just because they can.
>>>
>>> If you want to upgrade, that is your choice. But be prepare for te
>>> slaggishness. And, if you do upgrade for a 4s to ios8, and knowing very
>>> well
>>> that there are problems, stop complaining about it either...
>>>
 On 20/09/2014, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
 I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. I've seen posts to this list
 where people have said their 4S's are running sluggishly with IOS 8
 and others who claim it's just fine. The bottom line though is that
 the 4S is supported by IOS 8, so it should run just fine, and if it
 doesn't then Apple needs to fix it.

> On 09/19/2014 09:56 PM, Charles wrote:
> There have been a lot of reports that it might not work on the 4S.
>
> ---
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> finished, you! really! are! finished!
>
>- Original Message -
>*From:* Nishi 
>*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:45 AM
>*Subject:* Re: IOS 8 Released
>
>Hi,
>I have a 32gb Iphone 4s and i have updated to Ios 8.
>..
>
>I must say that i am not happy at all after the update! The phone
> is
>very slow and apps tend to crash a lot!
>V

Re: IOS 8 Released

[Michael Maslo]

4.4 and above on android accessibility is quite good. 4.2 is not bad.

Joanne Chua  wrote:
>Well, with a $100 androy phone you will find that it is more than
>likely is not Talkback comparable, because of whatever overlay that
>they have on top of Google Stock Androy, and more than likely will
>stop at Androy 4.22, which is a crap Androy OS when come to
>accessibility. Yes, you can get it work, but is that really worth it,
>that is another issue.
>Of course, one could argue that it only cost $100, as  compare to
>$1000 for an upgrade. If you have that mind set, go ahead, nothing
>stopping you on switching over to Androy.
>Just bare in mind, whatever phone you choose to get for Androy
>platform, make sure you get Androy 4.3 and above. The best entry and
>low end level phone for Google Stock Androy is Moto G or Moto E, which
>is between $200 and $350 (depending on specific model.
>
>In another word, Androy is good to see, good to touch, is great as a
>secondary phone even. But, not all Androy phones are accessible for
>the blind. That is the bottom line of the Androy OS.
>
>On 22/09/2014, Ari Moisio  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> On the other had one can get Android phones  approx $100  so the
>backward
>> compatibility is not so important.  Also phones with fixed battery
>have
>> much shorter lifespan because replacing the battery will be
>expensive.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS
>> Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672
>> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020
>> 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600  B784 D02
>>
>>
>>   David Chittenden kirjoitti
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
>>> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 10:47:57 +1200
>>> From: David Chittenden 
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>>>
>>> Works with iOS 8 with limitations. Apple does their best to support
>older
>>> hardware, and does a better job than Google and Microsoft. Good luck
>>> getting the latest version "of Android working on a four year old
>Android
>>> phone. I also used to have similar problems getting new versions of
>>> Windows working on four year old computers.
>>>
>>> The fact is, technology is always changing. Moore's Law states that
>device
>>> power will double every 18 months. So, a four year old device, such
>as an
>>> iPhone 4S, is the great grandfather to the iphone 6 (three
>generations
>>> ago).
>>>
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On 21 Sep 2014, at 10:25, Pablo Morales 
 wrote:

 But the official statement from apple, who is who sold those iPhone
>4s,
 and
 who created IOs8, is that IOs 8, works on iPhone 4s.
 So, we should not trust in apple?


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:39 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released

 Well, first at all, i'm not sure why people will upgrade t heir 4s
>to
 ios8.
 There are some key eatures on ios8 that won't be supported by
>iphone 5c
 and
 below, and some are quite exclusive to 6 and 6+.
 And again, all these support or not supported, for which phones and
 which
 ios, it is not something new. It is the same old same old arguement
>from
 pretty much the first gen of iphone to now.
 People constently have problems reported from an old phone upgraded
>to
 the
 new ios.
 It is expected.
 Apple does say that ios8 can be install on 4s. But if there is no
 slaggishness, then, people won't keep upgrading their phone as the
>new
 ios
 come out, will they.
 Apple do that for a reason, they don't just release a new ios out
>from
 no
 where, just because they can.

 If you want to upgrade, that is your choice. But be prepare for te
 slaggishness. And, if you do upgrade for a 4s to ios8, and knowing
>very
 well
 that there are problems, stop complaining about it either...

> On 20/09/2014, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. I've seen posts to this
>list
> where people have said their 4S's are running sluggishly with IOS
>8
> and others who claim it's just fine. The bottom line though is
>that
> the 4S is supported by IOS 8, so it should run just fine, and if
>it
> doesn't then Apple needs to fix it.
>
>> On 09/19/2014 09:56 PM, Charles wrote:
>> There have been a lot of reports that it might not work on the
>4S.
>>
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think
>you're
>> finished, you! really! are! finished!
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>*From:* Nishi 
>>*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
>>*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:45 AM
>>*Subject:* Re: IOS 8 Released
>>
>>>

RE: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

[Pablo Morales]

What is trash?
Trash is what we don't need, what we don't use, or what we don't give any
value, also trash is what ever in this category, and that is put in our
property, and that is bothering us.
So, it is trash.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of alia robinson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

I wouldn't call a u2 album *trash* that is kind of overreacting, imo. you
don't want it, delete it. It was freely given, why all the hostility? it's
not like they charged you for it. 

Alia
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Pablo Morales 
wrote:
> 
> Wow, apple thinks that we like this kind of trash in our devices?
> Why they don't ask before do these kind of things?
> Thanks man, now I will remove those things from my music app.

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Re: Sonos and IOS 8.

[Don Breda]

I also have sonos and IOS8 and don't have that problem at all.

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Re: Sonos and IOS 8.

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Annie,

It can occur if you have an awful lot of music stored on your handset, do you 
have a large amount of music stored on your phone itself?



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On 21 Sep 2014, at 23:17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Not my experience. I often have the Sonos app in the app switcher and don't
> notice any unusual battery drain.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Annie Skov Nielsen
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Sonos and IOS 8.
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> Does anyone find that the sonos app is using a lot of power it can drain the
> phone very quickly. It is as if you can not close the sonos app down in app
> switcher. It can use all my battery in 2 hours on a 5s. I am pretty sure it
> is the sonos app.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
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Re: IOS 8 Released

[Ari Moisio]

HI

I think it is other way around; the cheaper phone  or tablet the more 
plain Android.



But i have some spare S60 phones  so i can wait until either IOS or 
Android become accessible enough.




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Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:44:32 +0930
From: Joanne Chua 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Well, with a $100 androy phone you will find that it is more than
likely is not Talkback comparable, because of whatever overlay that
they have on top of Google Stock Androy, and more than likely will
stop at Androy 4.22, which is a crap Androy OS when come to
accessibility. Yes, you can get it work, but is that really worth it,
that is another issue.
Of course, one could argue that it only cost $100, as  compare to
$1000 for an upgrade. If you have that mind set, go ahead, nothing
stopping you on switching over to Androy.
Just bare in mind, whatever phone you choose to get for Androy
platform, make sure you get Androy 4.3 and above. The best entry and
low end level phone for Google Stock Androy is Moto G or Moto E, which
is between $200 and $350 (depending on specific model.

In another word, Androy is good to see, good to touch, is great as a
secondary phone even. But, not all Androy phones are accessible for
the blind. That is the bottom line of the Androy OS.

On 22/09/2014, Ari Moisio  wrote:

Hi

On the other had one can get Android phones  approx $100  so the backward
compatibility is not so important.  Also phones with fixed battery have
much shorter lifespan because replacing the battery will be expensive.



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  David Chittenden kirjoitti

Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 10:47:57 +1200
From: David Chittenden 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 

Works with iOS 8 with limitations. Apple does their best to support older
hardware, and does a better job than Google and Microsoft. Good luck
getting the latest version "of Android working on a four year old Android
phone. I also used to have similar problems getting new versions of
Windows working on four year old computers.

The fact is, technology is always changing. Moore's Law states that device
power will double every 18 months. So, a four year old device, such as an
iPhone 4S, is the great grandfather to the iphone 6 (three generations
ago).

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 21 Sep 2014, at 10:25, Pablo Morales 
wrote:

But the official statement from apple, who is who sold those iPhone 4s,
and
who created IOs8, is that IOs 8, works on iPhone 4s.
So, we should not trust in apple?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Joanne Chua
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released

Well, first at all, i'm not sure why people will upgrade t heir 4s to
ios8.
There are some key eatures on ios8 that won't be supported by iphone 5c
and
below, and some are quite exclusive to 6 and 6+.
And again, all these support or not supported, for which phones and
which
ios, it is not something new. It is the same old same old arguement from
pretty much the first gen of iphone to now.
People constently have problems reported from an old phone upgraded to
the
new ios.
It is expected.
Apple does say that ios8 can be install on 4s. But if there is no
slaggishness, then, people won't keep upgrading their phone as the new
ios
come out, will they.
Apple do that for a reason, they don't just release a new ios out from
no
where, just because they can.

If you want to upgrade, that is your choice. But be prepare for te
slaggishness. And, if you do upgrade for a 4s to ios8, and knowing very
well
that there are problems, stop complaining about it either...


On 20/09/2014, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. I've seen posts to this list
where people have said their 4S's are running sluggishly with IOS 8
and others who claim it's just fine. The bottom line though is that
the 4S is supported by IOS 8, so it should run just fine, and if it
doesn't then Apple needs to fix it.


On 09/19/2014 09:56 PM, Charles wrote:
There have been a lot of reports that it might not work on the 4S.

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   - Original Message -
   *From:* Nishi 
   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
   *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:45 AM
   *Subject:* Re: IOS 8 Released

   Hi,
   I have a 32gb Iphone 4s and i have updated to Ios 8.
   ..

   I must say that i am not happy

RE: Jonathan. A very nice, well written book on iOS 8

[Wendy Alling]

Jonathan, just wanted to say that I enjoyed your book.  Very well done.  My
new iPhone 6 will be in my hands in October!  Can't wait!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:52 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Jonathan. A very nice, well written book on iOS 8

 

Can I just mention that the book in ePub format works great with the QRead
book reading program for Windows.


Sent from my Macbook Pro 

 

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:03, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:





Hi Charles, it's available in ePub for use with Voice Dream, iBooks etc. It
also comes in accessible PDF, and RTF. One purchase gets all those formats.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org  

 

On 20/09/2014, at 5:50 am, Charles Rivard  wrote:

 

What format, or formats, is, or are, this book available in, and what is
needed to access it?  Thanks.

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- Original Message - From: "Les Kriegler" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: Jonathan. A very nice, well written book on iOS 8


Has the boat been released to the public? I ask because I purchased the
book, but I have not seen any announcements on it's release. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone




On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:36 AM, Christopher Hallsworth
 wrote:

Yes, a very nice book indeed!

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu  




On 17/09/2014 06:13, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
Thanks a lot Neal, really appreciate that a lot, the feedback has been
wonderful so far.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org




On 17/09/2014, at 4:41 pm, Neal Ewers  wrote:

Wow! This is very nice. I feel like I have iOS 8 on my phone already. Thanks
very much for all the work that went into this.

Neal

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Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

[MamaPeach]

Isn't this an unnecessary thread now? Seems to have nothing to do with what 
this list is for. One's opinion of whether or not an artist's album is trash 
is totally irrelevant. If you don't like it, remove it and move on.


-Original Message- 
From: Pablo Morales

Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

What is trash?
Trash is what we don't need, what we don't use, or what we don't give any
value, also trash is what ever in this category, and that is put in our
property, and that is bothering us.
So, it is trash.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of alia robinson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

I wouldn't call a u2 album *trash* that is kind of overreacting, imo. you
don't want it, delete it. It was freely given, why all the hostility? it's
not like they charged you for it.

Alia

On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Pablo Morales 

wrote:


Wow, apple thinks that we like this kind of trash in our devices?
Why they don't ask before do these kind of things?
Thanks man, now I will remove those things from my music app.


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Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

[alia robinson]

exactly. It was a gift freely given, and if you don't want it on your devices 
you can delete it in ten seconds, why all the fuss and hostility? 

Alia
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:33 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> Isn't this an unnecessary thread now? Seems to have nothing to do with what 
> this list is for. One's opinion of whether or not an artist's album is trash 
> is totally irrelevant. If you don't like it, remove it and move on.

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Re: going no mail

[Flor Lynch]

I wrote "Googlegroups" so as to be inclusive of a GMail or no GMail 
account. I don't know whether the Google mail UI is accessible or not 
with Safari; but on Windows it's probably best screen-reader accessible 
using firefox.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:11 AM
Subject: Re: going no mail


Dennis has a Gmail account, so doesn't that mean he can log on to the
Google Groups web site and stop having email updates sent to him? I
think I just have the one Google account; and I don't think I have a
separate account for Gmail and another one for Google Groups.

On 09/21/2014 08:35 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:

That doesn't appear to address 'going nomail'.

If the user has a Googlegroups account, they could change their
preferences that way, including unchecking the checkbox for individual
email so that mail will be on the Web only. If they don't have such an
account, then if they still wish to remain subscribed i.e. resume
receiving individidual emails after the time away, then it's up to a
group manager/owner to set things up for them thus.


- Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain"

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: going no mail


Here's something I posted to the list a week or so ago. The only thing
you need to change is to select the don't send email updates option.

I'm not sure what you've tried or what operating system/browser you're
using, but you can go to the link at the bottom of every message to 
this

list, namely

Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone

Now pull down the menu under My Settings and select the first option 
in
that list, i.e. Membership and Email Settings. Now about three tabs 
into

this dialog, you'll see a list of options, and you want to change this
from either send me a daily summary or send me combined updates to 
send

me an email for every update.

Hit the save button and you should be done.

I just tried this with Orca and Firefox and it worked. Things may work 
a

bit differently with your browser and screen reader. Just ask if you
have any questions. This question comes up on the list every few 
weeks,
so you can also look through the archives for messages from Sieghard 
for

a better explanation or one using your browser/screen reader
combination.

On 09/21/2014 06:22 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

how do I go no mail?  thanks.

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Trouble with the itunes store on my iPhone 5c using ios 8

[Jen Colley]

Hi,  
I am trying to make a purchase from the itunes store.  
I can preview the song I want but when I double tap the dollar amount nothing 
happens.  
How do you get the buy song buy song to activate like it did in previous 
versions?  
Jen  

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Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

[Flor Lynch]

Not all of 'us' agree that the U2 album is 'trash'? I quite like it. ;:)

- Original Message - 
From: "Pablo Morales" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today


What is trash?
Trash is what we don't need, what we don't use, or what we don't give 
any

value, also trash is what ever in this category, and that is put in our
property, and that is bothering us.
So, it is trash.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of alia robinson
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

I wouldn't call a u2 album *trash* that is kind of overreacting, imo. 
you
don't want it, delete it. It was freely given, why all the hostility? 
it's

not like they charged you for it.

Alia

On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Pablo Morales 

wrote:


Wow, apple thinks that we like this kind of trash in our devices?
Why they don't ask before do these kind of things?
Thanks man, now I will remove those things from my music app.


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RE: IOS 8 Released

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ari,

iOS 8 has quite a few bugs, iOS 7 had some when it launched and quite a lot
of them got fixed and I am pretty sure Apple will fix bugs in iOS 8 as well.
Other than that iOS is super accessible and if you need or want an
accessible phone then there is no reason to wait. There will always be bugs.
As far as I am concerned iOS is more accessible with all these bugs than the
old Windows Mobile was ever with MobileSpeak or Talks. 

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ari Moisio
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released

HI

I think it is other way around; the cheaper phone  or tablet the more 
plain Android.


But i have some spare S60 phones  so i can wait until either IOS or 
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> Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:44:32 +0930
> From: Joanne Chua 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Well, with a $100 androy phone you will find that it is more than
> likely is not Talkback comparable, because of whatever overlay that
> they have on top of Google Stock Androy, and more than likely will
> stop at Androy 4.22, which is a crap Androy OS when come to
> accessibility. Yes, you can get it work, but is that really worth it,
> that is another issue.
> Of course, one could argue that it only cost $100, as  compare to
> $1000 for an upgrade. If you have that mind set, go ahead, nothing
> stopping you on switching over to Androy.
> Just bare in mind, whatever phone you choose to get for Androy
> platform, make sure you get Androy 4.3 and above. The best entry and
> low end level phone for Google Stock Androy is Moto G or Moto E, which
> is between $200 and $350 (depending on specific model.
>
> In another word, Androy is good to see, good to touch, is great as a
> secondary phone even. But, not all Androy phones are accessible for
> the blind. That is the bottom line of the Androy OS.
>
> On 22/09/2014, Ari Moisio  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> On the other had one can get Android phones  approx $100  so the backward
>> compatibility is not so important.  Also phones with fixed battery have
>> much shorter lifespan because replacing the battery will be expensive.
>>
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>>> Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
>>> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 10:47:57 +1200
>>> From: David Chittenden 
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>>>
>>> Works with iOS 8 with limitations. Apple does their best to support
older
>>> hardware, and does a better job than Google and Microsoft. Good luck
>>> getting the latest version "of Android working on a four year old
Android
>>> phone. I also used to have similar problems getting new versions of
>>> Windows working on four year old computers.
>>>
>>> The fact is, technology is always changing. Moore's Law states that
device
>>> power will double every 18 months. So, a four year old device, such as
an
>>> iPhone 4S, is the great grandfather to the iphone 6 (three generations
>>> ago).
>>>
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On 21 Sep 2014, at 10:25, Pablo Morales 
 wrote:

 But the official statement from apple, who is who sold those iPhone 4s,
 and
 who created IOs8, is that IOs 8, works on iPhone 4s.
 So, we should not trust in apple?


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:39 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released

 Well, first at all, i'm not sure why people will upgrade t heir 4s to
 ios8.
 There are some key eatures on ios8 that won't be supported by iphone 5c
 and
 below, and some are quite exclusive to 6 and 6+.
 And again, all these support or not supported, for which phones and
 which
 ios, it is not something new. It is the same old same old arguement
from
 pretty much the first gen of iphone to now.
 People constently have problems reported from an old phone upgraded to
 the
 new ios.
 It is expected.
 Apple does say that ios8 can be install on 4s. But if there is no
 slaggishness, then, people won't keep upgrading their phone as the new
 ios
 come out, will they.
 Apple do that for a reason, they don't just release a new ios out from
 no
 where, just because they can.

 If you want to upgrade, that is your choice. But be prepare for te
 slaggishness. And, if

Re: Trouble with the itunes store on my iPhone 5c using ios 8

[Feliciano G]

I was having a problem with this yesterday. You have to double tap and hold for 
about 3 to 4 seconds.One stop by song graphic comes up, you have to double tap 
and hold once again.it's just another iOS eight bug. :(

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> On Sep 22, 2014, at 3:43 AM, Jen Colley  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I am trying to make a purchase from the itunes store. 
> I can preview the song I want but when I double tap the dollar amount nothing 
> happens. 
> How do you get the buy song buy song to activate like it did in previous 
> versions? 
> Jen 
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Re: The good things in iOS8

[rhondaprincess]

I like all of what you said above. The message was very good,

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Great message.  Thank you for taking the time to post the positive things in
> I O S 8. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Lynda 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The good things in iOS8
> 
> Hi
> 
> I know there have been some bugs, and I know there's been some upset, but I
> wanted to take a moment to recognise the good things in iOS8. 
> 
> I love the direct typing feature. I've been hoping for it for years, and I'm
> so much faster on both the iPad and iPhone as a result. I also love having
> Alex as an option, and having braille as a universal input will make it much
> easier to type in louder environments  
> 
> I'm not saying we shouldn't give them feedback about the bugs, or that we
> shouldn't complain if they don't listen, but we could also recognise the
> things they have done well. And it's also worth noting that a lot of sighted
> people are upset about the bugs in the current release. I'd be wary about
> reading too much into apple's commitment to accessibility based on the
> voiceover bugs in this release. 
> 
> Cheers. 
> 
> Laura
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Stocks in notification center

[Sharon]

Hi all,

I was wondering  if anyone has problems with getting the stokcs out of the
notification center? When I go to setting and notifications, I don't see
stocks  listed to remove it from the notification center, and is there a way
to remove it and  is there no more  tomorrow view?

Thanks,

Sharon

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Questions about KNFB Reader...

[Kerri Kosten]

Hi Everyone:

I am still having a little trouble with KNFB Reader.
Last night, I went to my parents house and tried using the KNFB Reader there.
I did get it to successfully scan a flat letter, but I have a bunch of
paperback books I really want to read that I was hoping I could sort
of use the KNFB reader to read.
I went through the archives on this list and I read how a few people
successfully got results with paperback books but I'm still having a
lot of trouble with paperback books.
I also have not gotten the tilted guidance to stop vibrating at all.
By reading the archives, people are saying it is best to hold the
phone in landscape mode...what does that mean?
Also, people said it is best to hold the phone 10- inches or so above
the page...how high is that?
I guess I'm just feeling frustrated because I still don't think I am
doing it right. Every once in a while I get good results but usually I
end up holding the phone close to the page and yet to get the best
results you are supposed to hold it 10 inches above the page but I
have no idea how high 10 inches is and I still have not gotten the
guidance to completely stop vibrating.
Have you been able to get good/accurate results on a standard, gently
used paperback book?
For someone like me who is having trouble, would purchasing a standscan be best?
Has the standscan made it easier to get accurate results?
Would a standscan help with my wanting to scan and read a paperback book?
Thanks,
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iBook store and ios 8

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all. I feel really stupid, but I can't find the iBook store. It was able to 
be accessed when in the iBook library... but since upgrading to ios 8, I can't 
find it! Lol.  Can someone help? 

Jenifer Barr
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Re: iBook store and ios 8

[Michael Feir]

They've changed that a little. To get out of your library and into the
bookstore, use one of the bottom tabs like features, search  or top
charts. When you want to obtain a book, go right into its entry and
use the button with the price or free that you find in the description
rather than on the store front. I found that to be true in the
appstore also. You have to use the link with the title of the app
first to get into the description page and then look for the button
labelled with the item's price which lets you purchase. Hope that
helps you.

On 9/22/14, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> Hi all. I feel really stupid, but I can't find the iBook store. It was able
> to be accessed when in the iBook library... but since upgrading to ios 8, I
> can't find it! Lol.  Can someone help?
>
> Jenifer Barr
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Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today

[Teresa Cochran]

I like that album, too. I did take it off my iPod, simply because I store books 
and apps and not a lot of music on it. I mostly play music from cloud services. 
But I'll definitely revisit it. It is quite a freebie. :)

Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 3:41 AM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> Not all of 'us' agree that the U2 album is 'trash'? I quite like it. ;:)
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Pablo Morales" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:42 AM
> Subject: RE: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
> 
> 
> What is trash?
> Trash is what we don't need, what we don't use, or what we don't give any
> value, also trash is what ever in this category, and that is put in our
> property, and that is bothering us.
> So, it is trash.
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of alia robinson
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Releases U2 Removal Tool, Today
> 
> I wouldn't call a u2 album *trash* that is kind of overreacting, imo. you
> don't want it, delete it. It was freely given, why all the hostility? it's
> not like they charged you for it.
> 
> Alia
>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Pablo Morales 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, apple thinks that we like this kind of trash in our devices?
>> Why they don't ask before do these kind of things?
>> Thanks man, now I will remove those things from my music app.
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Re: Money Reader in IOS 8

[Cathy]

I do believe that it is faster.
Cathy & Pilot Dog, Tiny:

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Re: Deleting a book in the current version of the audible app

[Cathy]

I called Audible, and I was told by 2 separate people that this is being 
addressed, and will be fixed in the next update.
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Re: Trimming Voice Memos?

[Alex Hall]

I've never trimmed one at all, let alone iOS8. Would you mind providing 
instructions on how the process works? Thank you.
On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:11 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

> I am on iOS 8 and just trimmed of voice memo tonight.I wanted just to trim 
> some off the end I followed the instructions, but had to swipe down I think 
> and then up; then I was able to interact with where I was in the display.
> 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
> 
> The buttons are not labeled in my app, using IOS 7.
> 
>> On 9/21/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> I don't think you are using the same app, as this is fully accessible. I'm
>> talking about the stock Voice Memos app, that comes with iOS devices by
>> default. I've never found any unlabeled buttons or other accessibility
>> problems in it, with the possible exception of this trimming thing.
>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex, I have this app but have never used it. It appears that none
>>> of the buttons are labeled. Can you give me some clues about using it?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Penny
>>> 
 On 9/21/14, Joseph  wrote:
 Hello,
 When I attempted to trim a file, I didn't get any VO feedback when
 pressing
 and holding to move the sliders other than it saying 0. That's been my
 experience.
 
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I've just started playing with the Voice Memos app - I didn't realize
> how
> good the microphone on my 5 was. My only question is whether the trim
> feature is accessible. At first look it appears to not be, but I may
> well
> be missing something. Thanks for any thoughts.
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RE: Money Reader in IOS 8

[Rose Combs]

I tried Money Reader and it works for me too and yes, I could not resist, I
updated the iPhone 4s.  

 

 

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Money Reader in IOS 8

 

Hi Lois,

 

I think Alex's suggestion to completely delete it nd to reinstall would be
my recommendation. I would make sure you remove it from the app switcher
first, then delete and reinstall and see if this fixes the problem. It is
working for me as well and in fact I have the feeling it's faster/more
responsive in iOS 8, but that might just be perception.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Money Reader in IOS 8

 

Have you closed it by removing it from the App Switcher, with camera access
still off, and then launched it?

On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Lois Butterfield 
wrote:

 

Okay, I turned it off.  Now when I launch money reader, it opens and
immediately closes without saying anything.

 

I do appreciate your attempts to help.

 

Thanks,

Lois

 

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From: Alex Hall   

Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Money Reader in IOS 8

 

Try turning off camera access for the app. Next time it launches, it should
ask for permission; let it. I can't think of anything else to try.

On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Lois Butterfield 
wrote:

 

Thanks, but it is on.

 

I can't imagine what happened.

 

Lois

 

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From: Alex Hall   

Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:06 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Money Reader in IOS 8

 

It works here too. Try this: 

1. Open Settings, then go to Privacy, then Camera.

2. In the list of apps, find Money Reader and see if it is on or off.

3. If it is off, double tap to turn it on. This will let the app access the
camera; it sounds like it might not have that permission right now.

On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Lois Butterfield 
wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Am I the only one who has found that Money Reader doesn't work since the
upgrade.  I know of 2 people who say theirs still works.

 

I have deleted and reinstalled with no luck.  This is very discouraging to
say the least.

 

Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Lois

 

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Re: Money Reader in IOS 8

[Lois Butterfield]

I thought I would give an update on my problem.  

I did a backup and restore this morning.  Money reader still does not work.  In 
fact, after I open it, my whole phone seems to be sluggish.  That particular 
app must be corrupted somehow.  By the way, I was restored to IOS 8.

I’m going to investigate new phones today.

Thanks all for your suggestions.

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I do believe that it is faster.
Cathy & Pilot Dog, Tiny:
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Re: Deleting a book in the current version of the audible app

[Cathy]

Thanks for reposting the directions for deleting books in the audible app.  I 
finally found the edit to the left and yes, it was gone when I hit the delete 
button at the right.  That edit button is hard to find.  Again thank you for 
the help.
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RE: Direct touch typing

[Nicki Keck]

So am I, but I'm also getting good at hitting the right keys too.  The more I 
do it, the better I am getting at it.

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I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the difference 
is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a letter for a beat 
before you lift it. I think this keeps you from accidentally entering the wrong 
character as you're sliding your finger around the keyboard. With direct touch 
typing, I think the character is entered if you just tap the character. Direct 
touch typing would be faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the 
character is and can land on it without having to slide your finger around at 
all. . For my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I 
practice direct touch typing.

On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my 
> finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct 
> touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, 
> you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch 
> typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It 
> sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I 
> think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing 
> more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if 
> that makes sense.
>
> Teresa
>
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and 
> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain  > wrote:
>
>> At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either.
>> When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to 
>> enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the 
>> edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character 
>> I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I 
>> guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the 
>> descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me.
>>
>> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>>> Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then 
>>> lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch 
>>> Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be 
>>> immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion 
>>> here?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro
>>>
>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales >>  > 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it?
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 Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth
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 It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead 
 of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap 
 to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the 
 letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard.

 Sent from my Macbook Pro
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 Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct 
 touch typing?
 Thank you.

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Re: The good things in iOS8

[Russ Kiehne]

One thing I like in Ios 8, the music app now tells me how many songs and total 
play time in each playlist.

From: christopher hallsworth 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:10 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: The good things in iOS8

Doesn't work in password fields either. Have to switch to touch typing to do 
this.


Sent from my Macbook Pro 

On 21 Sep 2014, at 01:31, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:


  I too like the direct touch typing, but noticed that it doesn't work in the 
phone app. I'm puzzled as to why that is.

  Shawn
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On Sep 20, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Laura  wrote:

Hi

I know there have been some bugs, and I know there's been some upset, but I 
wanted to take a moment to recognise the good things in iOS8. 

I love the direct typing feature. I've been hoping for it for years, and 
I'm so much faster on both the iPad and iPhone as a result. I also love having 
Alex as an option, and having braille as a universal input will make it much 
easier to type in louder environments  

I'm not saying we shouldn't give them feedback about the bugs, or that we 
shouldn't complain if they don't listen, but we could also recognise the things 
they have done well. And it's also worth noting that a lot of sighted people 
are upset about the bugs in the current release. I'd be wary about reading too 
much into apple's commitment to accessibility based on the voiceover bugs in 
this release. 

Cheers. 

Laura

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Re: Money Reader in IOS 8

[Russ Kiehne]

I installed Eye Note on my ipod touch 5th generation and not had very good luck 
with it.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Money Reader in IOS 8

At this point, if you are in the United States and don't deal with other 
currencies, EyeNote does an excellent job and it is free. Note the spelling, it 
is eye, the organ for sight, not the letter i.
It is put out by the bureau of Engraving.
Money reader is $9.99 but recognizes something like 40 different currencies.
HTH,
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On Sep 21, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:


  Hey guys,
  Is money reader built in, or is it something i need to download.

  On 9/21/2014 1:36 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

Are you getting any error messages?

When I tried it for the first time, it asked me for permission to use

the camera.  Of course, I said "Yes.", and it has worked flawlessly

since then.  Fact is, I think it works faster than it did with firmware

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   *Subject:* Money Reader in IOS 8



   Hi all,

   Am I the only one who has found that Money Reader doesn’t work since

   the upgrade.  I know of 2 people who say theirs still works.

   I have deleted and reinstalled with no luck.  This is very

   discouraging to say the least.

   Any ideas would be appreciated.

   Thanks,

   Lois

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Re: Money Reader in IOS 8

[Feliciano G]

Hmm should work

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> On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Lois Butterfield  
> wrote:
> 
> I thought I would give an update on my problem. 
>  
> I did a backup and restore this morning.  Money reader still does not work.  
> In fact, after I open it, my whole phone seems to be sluggish.  That 
> particular app must be corrupted somehow.  By the way, I was restored to IOS 
> 8.
>  
> I’m going to investigate new phones today.
>  
> Thanks all for your suggestions.
>  
> Lois
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Re: Direct touch typing

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I don't know why I never tried touch typing in the past. It is so much
faster than the default.

On 9/22/14, Nicki Keck  wrote:
> So am I, but I'm also getting good at hitting the right keys too.  The more
> I do it, the better I am getting at it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>
> I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the
> difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a
> letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from
> accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger
> around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is
> entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster
> if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land
> on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm
> getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch
> typing.
>
> On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my
>> finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct
>> touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing,
>> you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch
>> typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It
>> sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I
>> think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing
>> more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if
>> that makes sense.
>>
>> Teresa
>>
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and
>> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain > > wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either.
>>> When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to
>>> enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the
>>> edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character
>>> I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I
>>> guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the
>>> descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me.
>>>
>>> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then
 lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch
 Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be
 immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion
 here?

 Sent from my Macbook Pro

 On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales >>>  >
 wrote:

> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it?
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*
> On
> Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth
> *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone
> *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing
> It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead
> of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap
> to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the
> letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard.
>
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
> On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin   > wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct
> touch typing?
> Thank you.
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RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kerri,

Maybe it would help if you asked your parents to help as far as guiding your
hand so you know what it feels like when the phone is flat and tilt guidance
stops. Landscape means holding the phone sideways. 10 inches is 1 inch less
(about 2 finger width) less than the height of a regular sheet of paper
which is 8.5 inches wide and 11 inches long.


Best regards,
Sieghard 

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Of Kerri Kosten
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:33 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Questions about KNFB Reader...

Hi Everyone:

I am still having a little trouble with KNFB Reader.
Last night, I went to my parents house and tried using the KNFB Reader
there.
I did get it to successfully scan a flat letter, but I have a bunch of
paperback books I really want to read that I was hoping I could sort
of use the KNFB reader to read.
I went through the archives on this list and I read how a few people
successfully got results with paperback books but I'm still having a
lot of trouble with paperback books.
I also have not gotten the tilted guidance to stop vibrating at all.
By reading the archives, people are saying it is best to hold the
phone in landscape mode...what does that mean?
Also, people said it is best to hold the phone 10- inches or so above
the page...how high is that?
I guess I'm just feeling frustrated because I still don't think I am
doing it right. Every once in a while I get good results but usually I
end up holding the phone close to the page and yet to get the best
results you are supposed to hold it 10 inches above the page but I
have no idea how high 10 inches is and I still have not gotten the
guidance to completely stop vibrating.
Have you been able to get good/accurate results on a standard, gently
used paperback book?
For someone like me who is having trouble, would purchasing a standscan be
best?
Has the standscan made it easier to get accurate results?
Would a standscan help with my wanting to scan and read a paperback book?
Thanks,
Kerri

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Re: Stocks in notification center

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Hi:
Tomorrow is below today. Also I think you can remove the stocks by
deleting all of them. I also did not find them under settings,
notification center.

On 9/22/14, Sharon  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering  if anyone has problems with getting the stokcs out of the
> notification center? When I go to setting and notifications, I don't see
> stocks  listed to remove it from the notification center, and is there a
> way
> to remove it and  is there no more  tomorrow view?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sharon
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Re: buying refurbished iPad mini / retina

[Russ Kiehne]

I saved a lot of money by buying a refurbished ipad mini.  It comes with a 
one year warranty.


-Original Message- 
From: Traci Duncan

Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 5:47 PM
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Subject: buying refurbished iPad mini / retina

Hi all,

I'm curious about the batteries inside refurbished iProducts.  Should I 
consider that battery older or more used up, than if I purchase an iPad mini 
/ retina brand new?


Is this something that should be a big deal?

Thanks, biggest bang for my buck, don'tcha know. ;)
Traci

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Re: Weather Bug In IOS8

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I tried it and had no trouble.

On 9/22/14, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> Is that a weather bug, or is it a Siri bug.
>
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>
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> There's a bug in the way Siri works with weather.  I have an iPhone 5.
> From
> the screen locked
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> do
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Re: buying refurbished iPad mini / retina

[Russ Kiehne]

I bought mine directly from Apple.  With buying from Apple, you get a one 
year warranty.


-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: buying refurbished iPad mini / retina

Hi,

It depends on who you purchase the iPad from. Some suppliers will
replace the battery as part of the refurbishment process whilst others
will leave the original one in but will hopefully provide some
indication as to how long it will last for. Unless your supplier
specificly tells you that a new battery has been installed, you should
assume the battery will be used & will have less life accordingly,
although it is not possible for me to gage how much less.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/21/14, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all,

I'm curious about the batteries inside refurbished iProducts.  Should I
consider that battery older or more used up, than if I purchase an iPad 
mini

/ retina brand new?

Is this something that should be a big deal?

Thanks, biggest bang for my buck, don'tcha know. ;)
Traci

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Re: Weather Bug In IOS8

[Shai]

Hi Gary,
If Siri releases before you are finished with your request, try
keeping the home button held down while you are speaking to Siri and
then releasing. This will allow Siri to take in your full instruction.
Hope that helps.




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RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...

[Gary Bowers]

Hi Kerri,

Paperback books are probably one of the most difficult items to read
successfully with the KNFB Reader. Your goal would be to make the book as
close as possible to a flat document. Obviously, this can be tricky.

It's also possible that the  text on the adjoining page (next to the page
you're trying to read) is confusing the KNFB Reader, causing the tilt
guidance to continually try to correct its focus. You could try covering the
adjoining page with cardboard or thick paper, and setting the camera to
automatic. I would also try turning off the tilt guidance for a few shots.

I have the Stand Scan, but I did not find it to be very helpful with
paperback books. 

Gary



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kerri Kosten
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:33 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Questions about KNFB Reader...

Hi Everyone:

I am still having a little trouble with KNFB Reader.
Last night, I went to my parents house and tried using the KNFB Reader
there.
I did get it to successfully scan a flat letter, but I have a bunch of
paperback books I really want to read that I was hoping I could sort of use
the KNFB reader to read.
I went through the archives on this list and I read how a few people
successfully got results with paperback books but I'm still having a lot of
trouble with paperback books.
I also have not gotten the tilted guidance to stop vibrating at all.
By reading the archives, people are saying it is best to hold the phone in
landscape mode...what does that mean?
Also, people said it is best to hold the phone 10- inches or so above the
page...how high is that?
I guess I'm just feeling frustrated because I still don't think I am doing
it right. Every once in a while I get good results but usually I end up
holding the phone close to the page and yet to get the best results you are
supposed to hold it 10 inches above the page but I have no idea how high 10
inches is and I still have not gotten the guidance to completely stop
vibrating.
Have you been able to get good/accurate results on a standard, gently used
paperback book?
For someone like me who is having trouble, would purchasing a standscan be
best?
Has the standscan made it easier to get accurate results?
Would a standscan help with my wanting to scan and read a paperback book?
Thanks,
Kerri

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RE: Stocks in notification center

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sharon and John,

Now that there are interactive notifications removing and adding items is
done from Notification Centre. Pull down with 3 fingers after touching the
status bar to open the Notification Centre. At the bottom you will find an
Edit button. Double tap it and now you will see the items in the
Notification Centre and there is a Delete button to the left. After the
items that are in Notification Centre are those which are not and also apps
are listed which can be inserted into Notification Centre. 2 examples, if
you have these apps installed, are Audible Stats and Dropbox. If you insert
them you will be able to see your listening statistics in Notification
Centre and you will be able to see a list of recently added and changed
files for Dropbox.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Stocks in notification center

Hi:
Tomorrow is below today. Also I think you can remove the stocks by deleting
all of them. I also did not find them under settings, notification center.

On 9/22/14, Sharon  wrote:
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>
> I was wondering  if anyone has problems with getting the stokcs out of 
> the notification center? When I go to setting and notifications, I 
> don't see stocks  listed to remove it from the notification center, 
> and is there a way to remove it and  is there no more  tomorrow view?
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RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gary,

Tilt guidance has nothing to do with if you have another page next to the
one you are trying to scan or not. Tilt guidance works completely
independently from whether you are even pointing the camera at text or a
blank table top. It is the vibrations you feel if the phone is not held
completely flat (parallel to the table. It vibrates in different ways
depending on whether you are tilting your phone left to right or front to
back, if the phone is held flat it will stop vibrating.

A few people have reported that they are successfully scanning both pages of
an open book together. KNFB Reaer will treat this as 2 separate columns and
read the pages in the correct order. I'll try to find a book and give it a
try.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Of Gary Bowers
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...

Hi Kerri,

Paperback books are probably one of the most difficult items to read
successfully with the KNFB Reader. Your goal would be to make the book as
close as possible to a flat document. Obviously, this can be tricky.

It's also possible that the  text on the adjoining page (next to the page
you're trying to read) is confusing the KNFB Reader, causing the tilt
guidance to continually try to correct its focus. You could try covering the
adjoining page with cardboard or thick paper, and setting the camera to
automatic. I would also try turning off the tilt guidance for a few shots.

I have the Stand Scan, but I did not find it to be very helpful with
paperback books. 

Gary



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Of Kerri Kosten
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:33 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Questions about KNFB Reader...

Hi Everyone:

I am still having a little trouble with KNFB Reader.
Last night, I went to my parents house and tried using the KNFB Reader
there.
I did get it to successfully scan a flat letter, but I have a bunch of
paperback books I really want to read that I was hoping I could sort of use
the KNFB reader to read.
I went through the archives on this list and I read how a few people
successfully got results with paperback books but I'm still having a lot of
trouble with paperback books.
I also have not gotten the tilted guidance to stop vibrating at all.
By reading the archives, people are saying it is best to hold the phone in
landscape mode...what does that mean?
Also, people said it is best to hold the phone 10- inches or so above the
page...how high is that?
I guess I'm just feeling frustrated because I still don't think I am doing
it right. Every once in a while I get good results but usually I end up
holding the phone close to the page and yet to get the best results you are
supposed to hold it 10 inches above the page but I have no idea how high 10
inches is and I still have not gotten the guidance to completely stop
vibrating.
Have you been able to get good/accurate results on a standard, gently used
paperback book?
For someone like me who is having trouble, would purchasing a standscan be
best?
Has the standscan made it easier to get accurate results?
Would a standscan help with my wanting to scan and read a paperback book?
Thanks,
Kerri

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RE: Weather Bug In IOS8

[SSEric]

Gary, I was going to ask too about weather in the notification screen. I
have an iPhone 5 and Touch 5 and cannot get current temperature and
conditions to show on the notification screen.

Any suggestions!

Eric


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Is that a weather bug, or is it a Siri bug.

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Subject: Weather Bug In IOS8


There's a bug in the way Siri works with weather.  I have an iPhone 5.  From
the screen locked
window, I press the home button and say "weather for (city-name).  When I do
it I get silence or I get two beeps which come so quickly that I couldn't
possibly have made my request.

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Re: Bug with braille on screen keyboard and search fields

[christopher hallsworth]

Saw one workaround which is to insert a space after the text. This should make 
the search button available again.

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On 20 Sep 2014, at 00:07, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> If I try to write with the new Braille keyboard in a search field such as in 
> inbox search or say in Voicedream etc., the text gets written correctly but 
> the search button used to start the search is dimmed. Only work around I 
> found is to cancel and write with usual keyboard or Bluetooth.
> 
> 
> Did any of you see this bug? IF so, please consider writing to apple about it.
> 
> Best,
> Ioana 
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Dropbox issues with text and Word documents in iOS 7

[Wayne Merritt]

Morning all. I am having some interesting issues with the newest
Dropbox version on my iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2. In a recent Dropbox
update, the ability to have my location saved within a Word document
was added to the app. That was really cool. However, I've noticed that
when viewing Word documents, the first letter in a number of different
lines is missing. I thought it was just with one file, but I opened up
a different file this weekend and found the same situation. I know it
is not the file since all words appear normally. Wehn viewing a text
file, though my position is not retained in the file, all of the text
does show up. Anyone have any ideas why this might be happening? I use
my Braille display with my iPhone in church to read the songs. I've
got quite a few songs saved in separate Word documents. I would hate
to have to create additional text copies of those songs, in order to
read them and have all the text show up, but will if I have to.

Best,
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Re: Bug with braille on screen keyboard and search fields

[christopher hallsworth]

You enable Braille Screen Input in the rotor. To do this go to settings > 
general > accessibility > VoiceOver > rotor and select Braille Screen Input by 
double tapping on it.

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On 20 Sep 2014, at 00:18, Jose Lomeli  wrote:

> How do you activate the Braille keyboard?
> 
> Jose Lomeli
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> If I try to write with the new Braille keyboard in a search field such as in 
>> inbox search or say in Voicedream etc., the text gets written correctly but 
>> the search button used to start the search is dimmed. Only work around I 
>> found is to cancel and write with usual keyboard or Bluetooth.
>> 
>> 
>> Did any of you see this bug? IF so, please consider writing to apple about 
>> it.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ioana 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Weather Bug In IOS8

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I notice that when looking at the forecast for today the times are no longer 
read only the weather conditions.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Sep 2014, at 15:28, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> If Siri releases before you are finished with your request, try
> keeping the home button held down while you are speaking to Siri and
> then releasing. This will allow Siri to take in your full instruction.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/22/14, Gary Petraccaro  wrote:
>> There's a bug in the way Siri works with weather.  I have an iPhone 5.  From
>> 
>> the screen locked
>> window, I press the home button and say "weather for (city-name).  When I
>> do
>> it I get silence or I get two beeps which come so quickly that I couldn't
>> possibly have made my request.
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Re: Questions about KNFB Reader...

[Donna]

Hi All

Does anyone know or tried scanning a handwritten letter to see if the KNFB 
reader can recognize handwritten text? 

Thanks. 

Donna

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> Tilt guidance has nothing to do with if you have another page next to the
> one you are trying to scan or not. Tilt guidance works completely
> independently from whether you are even pointing the camera at text or a
> blank table top. It is the vibrations you feel if the phone is not held
> completely flat (parallel to the table. It vibrates in different ways
> depending on whether you are tilting your phone left to right or front to
> back, if the phone is held flat it will stop vibrating.
> 
> A few people have reported that they are successfully scanning both pages of
> an open book together. KNFB Reaer will treat this as 2 separate columns and
> read the pages in the correct order. I'll try to find a book and give it a
> try.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Gary Bowers
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...
> 
> Hi Kerri,
> 
> Paperback books are probably one of the most difficult items to read
> successfully with the KNFB Reader. Your goal would be to make the book as
> close as possible to a flat document. Obviously, this can be tricky.
> 
> It's also possible that the  text on the adjoining page (next to the page
> you're trying to read) is confusing the KNFB Reader, causing the tilt
> guidance to continually try to correct its focus. You could try covering the
> adjoining page with cardboard or thick paper, and setting the camera to
> automatic. I would also try turning off the tilt guidance for a few shots.
> 
> I have the Stand Scan, but I did not find it to be very helpful with
> paperback books. 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kerri Kosten
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:33 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Questions about KNFB Reader...
> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> I am still having a little trouble with KNFB Reader.
> Last night, I went to my parents house and tried using the KNFB Reader
> there.
> I did get it to successfully scan a flat letter, but I have a bunch of
> paperback books I really want to read that I was hoping I could sort of use
> the KNFB reader to read.
> I went through the archives on this list and I read how a few people
> successfully got results with paperback books but I'm still having a lot of
> trouble with paperback books.
> I also have not gotten the tilted guidance to stop vibrating at all.
> By reading the archives, people are saying it is best to hold the phone in
> landscape mode...what does that mean?
> Also, people said it is best to hold the phone 10- inches or so above the
> page...how high is that?
> I guess I'm just feeling frustrated because I still don't think I am doing
> it right. Every once in a while I get good results but usually I end up
> holding the phone close to the page and yet to get the best results you are
> supposed to hold it 10 inches above the page but I have no idea how high 10
> inches is and I still have not gotten the guidance to completely stop
> vibrating.
> Have you been able to get good/accurate results on a standard, gently used
> paperback book?
> For someone like me who is having trouble, would purchasing a standscan be
> best?
> Has the standscan made it easier to get accurate results?
> Would a standscan help with my wanting to scan and read a paperback book?
> Thanks,
> Kerri
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Re: Questions about KNFB Reader...

[John Diakogeorgiou]

If it can do that then it's really worth the price!

On 9/22/14, Donna  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Does anyone know or tried scanning a handwritten letter to see if the KNFB
> reader can recognize handwritten text?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Donna
>
>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> Tilt guidance has nothing to do with if you have another page next to the
>> one you are trying to scan or not. Tilt guidance works completely
>> independently from whether you are even pointing the camera at text or a
>> blank table top. It is the vibrations you feel if the phone is not held
>> completely flat (parallel to the table. It vibrates in different ways
>> depending on whether you are tilting your phone left to right or front to
>> back, if the phone is held flat it will stop vibrating.
>>
>> A few people have reported that they are successfully scanning both pages
>> of
>> an open book together. KNFB Reaer will treat this as 2 separate columns
>> and
>> read the pages in the correct order. I'll try to find a book and give it
>> a
>> try.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Gary Bowers
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...
>>
>> Hi Kerri,
>>
>> Paperback books are probably one of the most difficult items to read
>> successfully with the KNFB Reader. Your goal would be to make the book as
>> close as possible to a flat document. Obviously, this can be tricky.
>>
>> It's also possible that the  text on the adjoining page (next to the page
>> you're trying to read) is confusing the KNFB Reader, causing the tilt
>> guidance to continually try to correct its focus. You could try covering
>> the
>> adjoining page with cardboard or thick paper, and setting the camera to
>> automatic. I would also try turning off the tilt guidance for a few
>> shots.
>>
>> I have the Stand Scan, but I did not find it to be very helpful with
>> paperback books.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Kerri Kosten
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:33 AM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Questions about KNFB Reader...
>>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> I am still having a little trouble with KNFB Reader.
>> Last night, I went to my parents house and tried using the KNFB Reader
>> there.
>> I did get it to successfully scan a flat letter, but I have a bunch of
>> paperback books I really want to read that I was hoping I could sort of
>> use
>> the KNFB reader to read.
>> I went through the archives on this list and I read how a few people
>> successfully got results with paperback books but I'm still having a lot
>> of
>> trouble with paperback books.
>> I also have not gotten the tilted guidance to stop vibrating at all.
>> By reading the archives, people are saying it is best to hold the phone
>> in
>> landscape mode...what does that mean?
>> Also, people said it is best to hold the phone 10- inches or so above the
>> page...how high is that?
>> I guess I'm just feeling frustrated because I still don't think I am
>> doing
>> it right. Every once in a while I get good results but usually I end up
>> holding the phone close to the page and yet to get the best results you
>> are
>> supposed to hold it 10 inches above the page but I have no idea how high
>> 10
>> inches is and I still have not gotten the guidance to completely stop
>> vibrating.
>> Have you been able to get good/accurate results on a standard, gently
>> used
>> paperback book?
>> For someone like me who is having trouble, would purchasing a standscan
>> be
>> best?
>> Has the standscan made it easier to get accurate results?
>> Would a standscan help with my wanting to scan and read a paperback book?
>> Thanks,
>> Kerri
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Ear-phones stopped working suddenly in iPad mini

[Andrew Lamanche]

Listers,

I was using my retina iPad mini using my ear-phones when all of sudden I lost 
sound.  At first I thought my iPad had frozen.  But when I unplugged the 
ear-phones, I could again hear Voiceover.  I tried another pair of ear-phones 
and the same thing happened.  When I twiddle the jack in the ear-phone jacket, 
I can hear tiny crackling and a semblance of sound for a mini-second.  Do you 
think that my iPad has developed a fault with the ear-phone socket?

Many thanks,

Andrew

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Selling an IPhone

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Does anyone in the U.S. have any experience with any of the companies
which buy IPhones? I have a 64gb 5 that I would like to sell on one of
these sites.

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Appliance Control

[John Diakogeorgiou]

IOS 8 is supposed to have an app which can control appliances, lights,
locks, etc. Does anyone know where this feature is located or how it
works?

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RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...

[Gary Bowers]

Hi Sieghard,

Thanks for the correction. 

Gary
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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...

Hi Gary,

Tilt guidance has nothing to do with if you have another page next to the
one you are trying to scan or not. Tilt guidance works completely
independently from whether you are even pointing the camera at text or a
blank table top. It is the vibrations you feel if the phone is not held
completely flat (parallel to the table. It vibrates in different ways
depending on whether you are tilting your phone left to right or front to
back, if the phone is held flat it will stop vibrating.

A few people have reported that they are successfully scanning both pages of
an open book together. KNFB Reaer will treat this as 2 separate columns and
read the pages in the correct order. I'll try to find a book and give it a
try.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Of Gary Bowers
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...

Hi Kerri,

Paperback books are probably one of the most difficult items to read
successfully with the KNFB Reader. Your goal would be to make the book as
close as possible to a flat document. Obviously, this can be tricky.

It's also possible that the  text on the adjoining page (next to the page
you're trying to read) is confusing the KNFB Reader, causing the tilt
guidance to continually try to correct its focus. You could try covering the
adjoining page with cardboard or thick paper, and setting the camera to
automatic. I would also try turning off the tilt guidance for a few shots.

I have the Stand Scan, but I did not find it to be very helpful with
paperback books. 

Gary



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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:33 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Questions about KNFB Reader...

Hi Everyone:

I am still having a little trouble with KNFB Reader.
Last night, I went to my parents house and tried using the KNFB Reader
there.
I did get it to successfully scan a flat letter, but I have a bunch of
paperback books I really want to read that I was hoping I could sort of use
the KNFB reader to read.
I went through the archives on this list and I read how a few people
successfully got results with paperback books but I'm still having a lot of
trouble with paperback books.
I also have not gotten the tilted guidance to stop vibrating at all.
By reading the archives, people are saying it is best to hold the phone in
landscape mode...what does that mean?
Also, people said it is best to hold the phone 10- inches or so above the
page...how high is that?
I guess I'm just feeling frustrated because I still don't think I am doing
it right. Every once in a while I get good results but usually I end up
holding the phone close to the page and yet to get the best results you are
supposed to hold it 10 inches above the page but I have no idea how high 10
inches is and I still have not gotten the guidance to completely stop
vibrating.
Have you been able to get good/accurate results on a standard, gently used
paperback book?
For someone like me who is having trouble, would purchasing a standscan be
best?
Has the standscan made it easier to get accurate results?
Would a standscan help with my wanting to scan and read a paperback book?
Thanks,
Kerri

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Looking for tamagochi games

[Anne Günther]

Hi
I know there are some apps where you have to care for a virtual 
animal/pet. Can you point me in the direction of some accessible ones?

thanks, Guenni

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Deleting Books in Audible

[Craig Borne]

Hello all,

I noticed that someone commented on how to delete a book in the latest update 
to the Audible.com app (September 2014), but for the life of me, I can’t find 
the original answer detailing how it is done.

There is a “delete” button between “recent” and “refresh,” and then there is a 
“delete” button to the right of the book title I wish to delete.  I’ve tried 
multiple combinations of these buttons to delete the book from my device (not 
my library), and the result is that Audible begins playing the book.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Craig

 

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Re: KNFB reader support

[Richard Turner]

I hope you sent that to KNFB support.
They won't see your note on this list.
Richard
 

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Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:15 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> I wish knfb and iPhone would include the lequento susan which Is
> available on android.
> 
>> On 9/21/14, Mikayla Gephart  wrote:
>> What is their list
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> KNFB reader support is definitely listening to feedback. I've gotten two
>>> nice responses to my messages to their list and to support directly. One
>>> was about the exporting issue and the other was about only having one TTS
>>> voice.
>>> They are looking into adding more voices.
>>> They would like to know people's preferences.
>>> So, if you have the app, and want to encourage them to  include particular
>>> voices in a future update, write support at:
>>> supp...@knfbreader.com
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor
>>> Hugo
>>> 
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Re: Selling an IPhone

[Brent Harding]

I sold a different kind of phone on Glyde. It worked pretty good. They sent 
a box, and I put it in and put it in the mail, and a few days later, money 
was credited to my account.


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Does anyone in the U.S. have any experience with any of the companies
which buy IPhones? I have a 64gb 5 that I would like to sell on one of
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Re: Appliance Control

[Alex Hall]

You mean HomeKit. Yes, iOS8 has it, but no devices yet officially support it. 
It is more of a communications standard so that appliances can hook into Siri 
and a unified control system, but there is no user-facing app yet, it's all 
behind the scenes and brand new for the moment.
On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:59 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:

> IOS 8 is supposed to have an app which can control appliances, lights,
> locks, etc. Does anyone know where this feature is located or how it
> works?
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Re: Selling an IPhone

[Yolanda]

I have always used Gazelle, and found the process smooth.

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which buy IPhones? I have a 64gb 5 that I would like to sell on one of
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Re: Questions about KNFB Reader...

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The KNFB manual states that it can't recognize handwritten text.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Gary Bowers  wrote:

> Hi Sieghard,
> 
> Thanks for the correction. 
> 
> Gary
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> Tilt guidance has nothing to do with if you have another page next to the
> one you are trying to scan or not. Tilt guidance works completely
> independently from whether you are even pointing the camera at text or a
> blank table top. It is the vibrations you feel if the phone is not held
> completely flat (parallel to the table. It vibrates in different ways
> depending on whether you are tilting your phone left to right or front to
> back, if the phone is held flat it will stop vibrating.
> 
> A few people have reported that they are successfully scanning both pages of
> an open book together. KNFB Reaer will treat this as 2 separate columns and
> read the pages in the correct order. I'll try to find a book and give it a
> try.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Gary Bowers
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Questions about KNFB Reader...
> 
> Hi Kerri,
> 
> Paperback books are probably one of the most difficult items to read
> successfully with the KNFB Reader. Your goal would be to make the book as
> close as possible to a flat document. Obviously, this can be tricky.
> 
> It's also possible that the  text on the adjoining page (next to the page
> you're trying to read) is confusing the KNFB Reader, causing the tilt
> guidance to continually try to correct its focus. You could try covering the
> adjoining page with cardboard or thick paper, and setting the camera to
> automatic. I would also try turning off the tilt guidance for a few shots.
> 
> I have the Stand Scan, but I did not find it to be very helpful with
> paperback books. 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kerri Kosten
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:33 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Questions about KNFB Reader...
> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> I am still having a little trouble with KNFB Reader.
> Last night, I went to my parents house and tried using the KNFB Reader
> there.
> I did get it to successfully scan a flat letter, but I have a bunch of
> paperback books I really want to read that I was hoping I could sort of use
> the KNFB reader to read.
> I went through the archives on this list and I read how a few people
> successfully got results with paperback books but I'm still having a lot of
> trouble with paperback books.
> I also have not gotten the tilted guidance to stop vibrating at all.
> By reading the archives, people are saying it is best to hold the phone in
> landscape mode...what does that mean?
> Also, people said it is best to hold the phone 10- inches or so above the
> page...how high is that?
> I guess I'm just feeling frustrated because I still don't think I am doing
> it right. Every once in a while I get good results but usually I end up
> holding the phone close to the page and yet to get the best results you are
> supposed to hold it 10 inches above the page but I have no idea how high 10
> inches is and I still have not gotten the guidance to completely stop
> vibrating.
> Have you been able to get good/accurate results on a standard, gently used
> paperback book?
> For someone like me who is having trouble, would purchasing a standscan be
> best?
> Has the standscan made it easier to get accurate results?
> Would a standscan help with my wanting to scan and read a paperback book?
> Thanks,
> Kerri
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Re: Direct touch typing

[Kerri]

I wanted to know also what direct touch typing is but it certainly isn't a joke.
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On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> So, it is a joke?
> 
> Take care
> 
> 21. sep. 2014 kl. 21:23 skrev Alan Paganelli :
> 
> I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe 
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> 
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> the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is 
> that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is 
> entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you 
> want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the 
> key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching 
> the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other 
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KNFB Reader crashing on iPhone6

[Graham Roby]

Hi, 

 

Is anyone else experiencing the fantastic KNFB Reader constantly crashing on
their iPhone6? 

Interestingly I installed it on my iPhone5 and it worked flawlessly. 

 

Kind regards

 

Graham

 

 

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Logistics of Taking Picture with KNFB Reader

[Sherry Wells]

Hello all,

Per the podcast on KNFB Reader, you can place 2 fingers on the take picture
button then lift one to take a picture.  This is part of the app designed to
make it easier to take a picture without moving your phone.  The take
picture button is quite large, taking up most of the left side of the phone.

Now, having said all this, I do not have KNFB Reader yet.  I am basing this
info on 2 podcasts  plus info I have read about the app.  Someone who has it
could verify that this works.

Regards,
Sherry Wells


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RE: iOS 8 and status update on Facebook a bug?

[Randi Shelton]

I just noticed that a few minutes ago for the first time. I use a braille
display and was able to type my status, but VOICEOver turned itself off/on
for a second...



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Beth G
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 8 and status update on Facebook a bug?

Hi,

This may have already been reported or talked about. However, when I double
tap status in Facebook so I can then dictate a status, voiceover completely
goes away. Siri says it is still on, but there is no speech. I have to shut
off my phone and turn it back on for voiceover to come back. Is anyone else
had this problem?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Logistics of Taking Picture with KNFB Reader

[Sherry Wells]

Hello all,

Per the podcast on KNFB Reader, you can place 2 fingers on the take picture 
button then lift one to take a picture.  This is part of the app designed to 
make it easier to take a picture without moving your phone.  The take 
picture button is quite large, taking up most of the left side of the phone.


Now, having said all this, I do not have KNFB Reader yet.  I am basing this 
info on 2 podcasts  plus info I have read about the app.  Someone who has it 
could verify that this works.


Regards,
Sherry Wells

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 3:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

Hi Rob,

I tried the volume button in KNFB Reader and at least for me it doesn't seem 
to work. ?But in any case, I actually find pushing the volume button is more 
likely to make me move the phone than a double tap or split tap. The 
iPhone's touch screen really requires a very light touch and with a bit of 
practice you can do a double tap and barely touch the screen.


What I haven't tried yet is to use the headset. This is probably the best 
method for taking a picture as you can press the middle part of the headset 
to take the picture or start/stop video recording and you don't even have to 
touch your phone at all or press any button.


As for holding the phone, I just hold it in my left hand gripping just the 
bottom half of the phone from underneath and I find this quite natural and 
then my right hand is free to do the tapping.



Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of RobH.

Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

I just read this and had this image, begging a question:-

Holding your phone in this unnatural position over a document, and feeling 
about the screen for buttons, and double tapping them to activate them...
so how do you hold your orientation while fiddling with controls, and why 
don't this cause camera shake when doing the double tap to take the picture, 
don't the volume button shutter mehcanism work for this?


It just struck me how such a combination of things at once could indeed make 
the whole process a little shaky and flaky to some.


I was glad when I discovered the volume button could be used for the camera, 
since I never did any good trying to take photos while fiddling on the 
screen and tapping.


JMO, RobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions


At one point on the AppleVis podcast, the demonstrator mentioned that it was
important to first touch the screen with a finger to bring focus there, then
to do a double tap. I don’t know if this is related to what you’re talking
about, but it may be worth a try.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BrianMiller
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

Thanks Sieghard… I use the two-finger double-tap all the time in other
contexts, though… It’s like there are two layers of activity going on at the
same time… One layer is the text being read to me, and the other layer is
the app elements.  I can flick right and left and find a play/pause button,
or a next and back button, but it absolutely will not respond to a
two-finger double-tap.  Is there a setting I need to toggle to make this
work?

Thanks,

Brian M


From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

Hi Brian,

First of all, in my opinion KNFB Reader is not designed to read a 300 page
book by doing free-hand scans of each page or even double page. If you are
indeed scanning entire bvooks I think a flatbed scanner is still the way to
go.

As far as using a 2-finger double tap to stop and start reading that does
work for me. I suspect you don’t do the gesture quite correctly. If
Voiceover tells you what is on the screen maybe it is just registering as a
single 2-finger tap.

I find it easiest to hold the phone with one hand and to use the other to do
my tapping. Having tilt feedback on I think works great and I occasionally
use the field of view report. Fortunately I find it not too difficult to
hold the phne level and usually within 5 degrees skew which doesn’t seem to
effect the scan quality very much if at all. I guess everybody is different
here just as people use different methods to hold the phone and type, it is
something we all have to figure out for ourselves.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegr

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

[Karl Smith]

I spoke to the KNFBR folks at the NFB convention about using the volume button 
for picture taking and they said that Apple was going to restrict third party 
developers from using this control so they weren’t going to put it into the app.

 

Karl

 

 

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4304 South El Camino St.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

Hi Rob, I think, in a blindness specific app, if the volume control took 
pictures, there would be a lot of erroneous pictures being taken as people 
adjust the volume of their speech.

They have guarded against jitter to some extent by introducing a very small 
delay between when you double tap the "Take Picture" button and when the 
picture is taken.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 21/09/2014, at 8:33 pm, RobH.  wrote:

 

I just read this and had this image, begging a question:-

Holding your phone in this unnatural position over a document, and feeling 
about the screen for buttons, and double tapping them to activate them... 
so how do you hold your orientation while fiddling with controls, and why 
don't this cause camera shake when doing the double tap to take the picture, 
don't the volume button shutter mehcanism work for this?

It just struck me how such a combination of things at once could indeed make 
the whole process a little shaky and flaky to some.

I was glad when I discovered the volume button could be used for the camera, 
since I never did any good trying to take photos while fiddling on the 
screen and tapping.

JMO, RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions


At one point on the AppleVis podcast, the demonstrator mentioned that it was 
important to first touch the screen with a finger to bring focus there, then 
to do a double tap. I don’t know if this is related to what you’re talking 
about, but it may be worth a try.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of BrianMiller
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

Thanks Sieghard… I use the two-finger double-tap all the time in other 
contexts, though… It’s like there are two layers of activity going on at the 
same time… One layer is the text being read to me, and the other layer is 
the app elements.  I can flick right and left and find a play/pause button, 
or a next and back button, but it absolutely will not respond to a 
two-finger double-tap.  Is there a setting I need to toggle to make this 
work?

Thanks,

Brian M


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

Hi Brian,

First of all, in my opinion KNFB Reader is not designed to read a 300 page 
book by doing free-hand scans of each page or even double page. If you are 
indeed scanning entire bvooks I think a flatbed scanner is still the way to 
go.

As far as using a 2-finger double tap to stop and start reading that does 
work for me. I suspect you don’t do the gesture quite correctly. If 
Voiceover tells you what is on the screen maybe it is just registering as a 
single 2-finger tap.

I find it easiest to hold the phone with one hand and to use the other to do 
my tapping. Having tilt feedback on I think works great and I occasionally 
use the field of view report. Fortunately I find it not too difficult to 
hold the phne level and usually within 5 degrees skew which doesn’t seem to 
effect the scan quality very much if at all. I guess everybody is different 
here just as people use different methods to hold the phone and type, it is 
something we all have to figure out for ourselves.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

I just purchased the KNFB reader app this morning and have experimented a 
little bit with it… I scanned some food packages and some loose pages and a 
number of pages of a book, and I think there is a lot of potential with this 
app, but a few things I either haven’t figured ou

RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

[Sandy Finley]

Try searching for KNFB only and see how many results you find. Worked for
me. HTH

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

Ok guys, but I am searching in the appstore for knfb reader, and appears
something like leo or something like that. It is the only result related
with knfb reader. Any clue searching this app in the app store?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

Sieghard,

 

I found exactly what you did. The company did not let us down. Its really
worth its money.  It sounded a bit expensive at the beginning but, when you
see what it does, its worth every penny.  I'm about to delete all the others
also.

I still would like the vibrator to work in the vertical to position for
documents mounted on the wall or bulletin boards.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

I purchased KNFB Reader this morning and tried it with a few printed
documents including a plain letter asking for a donation, an invoice and
something else. I used the phone in portrait mode and also had the letter
size document in portrait mode. KNFB Reader did an outstanding job on the
letter and I had very good results from the invoice and the other document.
The app is outstanding and I have already deleted Prizmo and Text Grabber
from my phone since I don't see myself using them any more now that I have
KNFB Reader.

 

The tilt feedback via vibrations is very useful and the field of view report
is amazing. The fact that it tells you whether you are holding the phone
even the slightest little bit turned with respect to the page qlong with
which edges are visible is awesome.

As Jonathan already pointed out the recognition is lightning fast and what I
really like is how simple the app is. They have definitely outdone
themselves with that app.

I have yet to put it through its paces in other situations, but I am already
very happy about my $100 investment as I know that it will be of much use in
the years to come.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

I contacted support at KNFB Reader and was advised to use portrait mode if
possible, both for the document layout and with the phone.

On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kayaker  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying that
taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a portrait improves
results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels lost is on the
order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides to meaningless
background if a full portrait page is in view in landscape

 

I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue.
Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels.

 

 

-k

Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
questions.

 

 

 

On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

 

There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better results.

I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille Press.
it does a great job of helping a blind person understand photography.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org  

 

On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom 
wrote:

 

I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of the
document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they've been thinking
there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not hold the phone
with the camera pointing to the top of the document but rather as if i had
it in landscape mode?

/Krister

 

18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen :

 

Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what you're doing,
but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the phone
lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by putting a page of
text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or visually. Then
hold the phone sideways a few centimetres above the page. Use the vibration
feedback so that the phone stops vibrating, indicating you have the angle
right, then take the picture. For further feedback before you take the
picture, you might use the field of view report, particularly in the early
stages.

Good luck. This thing really rocks s

KNFB Reader crashing on iPhone6

[Graham]

Hi, 

Is anyone else experiencing the fantastic KNFB Reader constantly crashing on 
their iPhone6? 
Interestingly I installed it on my iPhone5 and it worked flawlessly. 

Kind regards

Graham

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Logistics of Taking Picture with KNFB Reader

[Sherry Wells]

Hello all,

Per the podcast on KNFB Reader, you can place 2 fingers on the take picture
button then lift one to take a picture.  This is part of the app designed to
make it easier to take a picture without moving your phone.  The take
picture button is quite large, taking up most of the left side of the phone.

Now, having said all this, I do not have KNFB Reader yet.  I am basing this
info on 2 podcasts  plus info I have read about the app.  Someone who has it
could verify that this works.

Regards,
Sherry Wells

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 3:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

Hi Rob,

I tried the volume button in KNFB Reader and at least for me it doesn't seem
to work. ?But in any case, I actually find pushing the volume button is more
likely to make me move the phone than a double tap or split tap. The
iPhone's touch screen really requires a very light touch and with a bit of
practice you can do a double tap and barely touch the screen.

What I haven't tried yet is to use the headset. This is probably the best
method for taking a picture as you can press the middle part of the headset
to take the picture or start/stop video recording and you don't even have to
touch your phone at all or press any button.

As for holding the phone, I just hold it in my left hand gripping just the
bottom half of the phone from underneath and I find this quite natural and
then my right hand is free to do the tapping.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of RobH.
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

I just read this and had this image, begging a question:-

Holding your phone in this unnatural position over a document, and feeling
about the screen for buttons, and double tapping them to activate them...
so how do you hold your orientation while fiddling with controls, and why
don't this cause camera shake when doing the double tap to take the picture,
don't the volume button shutter mehcanism work for this?

It just struck me how such a combination of things at once could indeed make
the whole process a little shaky and flaky to some.

I was glad when I discovered the volume button could be used for the camera,
since I never did any good trying to take photos while fiddling on the
screen and tapping.

JMO, RobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions


At one point on the AppleVis podcast, the demonstrator mentioned that it was
important to first touch the screen with a finger to bring focus there, then
to do a double tap. I don’t know if this is related to what you’re talking
about, but it may be worth a try.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BrianMiller
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

Thanks Sieghard… I use the two-finger double-tap all the time in other
contexts, though… It’s like there are two layers of activity going on at the
same time… One layer is the text being read to me, and the other layer is
the app elements.  I can flick right and left and find a play/pause button,
or a next and back button, but it absolutely will not respond to a
two-finger double-tap.  Is there a setting I need to toggle to make this
work?

Thanks,

Brian M


From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

Hi Brian,

First of all, in my opinion KNFB Reader is not designed to read a 300 page
book by doing free-hand scans of each page or even double page. If you are
indeed scanning entire bvooks I think a flatbed scanner is still the way to
go.

As far as using a 2-finger double tap to stop and start reading that does
work for me. I suspect you don’t do the gesture quite correctly. If
Voiceover tells you what is on the screen maybe it is just registering as a
single 2-finger tap.

I find it easiest to hold the phone with one hand and to use the other to do
my tapping. Having tilt feedback on I think works great and I occasionally
use the field of view report. Fortunately I find it not too difficult to
hold the phne level and usually within 5 degrees skew which doesn’t seem to
effect the scan quality very much if at all. I guess everybody is different
here just as people use different methods to hold the phone and type, it is
something we all have to figure out for ourselves.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMi

RE: How to solve an issue in iOS 8.0 which makes Bluetooth keyboards not working

[Mary-Jo Lord]

Hi Cheryl,
 
Thanks for this great information. The keyboard issue is one of the reasons
I haven't upgraded yet. What are l1 and b7?
 
Thanks.
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: How to solve an issue in iOS 8.0 which makes Bluetooth
keyboards not working


I am forwarding this because it possibly might help people with bluetooth
keyboard issues with other keyboards. 

-- 
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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
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Begin forwarded message:


Dear our valued RiVO customers, 

We have found a small but serious issue in iOS 8.0 which could make any
Bluetooth keyboards including RiVO not working. If you suffer from the
issue, please read on. You may read the text in this email or follow the
link to read it from web browser.

RiVO Troubleshooting tip: An
 issue in iOS 8.0 which makes Bluetooth keyboards not working

There is a small bug in iOS 8.0, which makes all the Bluetooth keyboards
including RiVO not working for VoiceOver except a few functions. We have
found a way to cope with it although not a neat one. Once the problem
disappears, however, it doesn't appear again unless you change the iPhone
Language in Settings, General, Language & Region. To make the problem
disappear from your iPhone, follow the steps below:


a. If you use just one software keyboard in iPhone, temporarily add another
in Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards, Add New Keyboard. You may add
arbitrary one.

b. Open the Notes app.

c. Create a new note.

d. Hold down L1 and press B7 to turn off the quick navigation option.

e. Press L3 to turn RiVO into typing mode.

f. Hold down L1 and press L3 a few times to cycle through the list of
software keyboards.

g. Hold down L1 and press B7 to turn on the quick navigation option.

h. Now RiVO should work fine. If you want, you may delete the software
keyboard temporarily added at Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards.

Thanks.
Best regards,

RiVO team at Mobience

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Facebook: facebook.com/mobience


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RE: How to solve an issue in iOS 8.0 which makes Bluetooth keyboards not working

[Mary-Jo Lord]

Hi,
 
I don't have a RiVo  keyboard. I have an Apple keyboard and a Braille Pen
12. I don't have keys beginning with the letter l with numbers after them
for any of those commands. Am I to assume that I should just add another
software keyboard and cycle through them with the on screen keyboard and
that would solve the problem?
 
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 9:52 AM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Fwd: How to solve an issue in iOS 8.0 which makes Bluetooth
keyboards not working


Thanks to Cheryl for forwarding this.
If you do not have the RiVO keyboard, just use the on screen keyboard and
double-tap and hold on the "next keyboard" button to the right of the
numbers button in the lower left of the screen.
Once you have added the extra software keyboard and gone through the steps
below, at least for me and at least one other person, the bluetooth keyboard
is working again, which is what I am writing this message on.
Thanks to the RiVo team for figuring this out.  Perhaps Apple should hire
them.


RiVO Troubleshooting tip: An
 issue in iOS 8.0 which makes Bluetooth keyboards not working

There is a small bug in iOS 8.0, which makes all the Bluetooth keyboards
including RiVO not working for VoiceOver except a few functions. We have
found a way to cope with it although not a neat one. Once the problem
disappears, however, it doesn't appear again unless you change the iPhone
Language in Settings, General, Language & Region. To make the problem
disappear from your iPhone, follow the steps below:


a. If you use just one software keyboard in iPhone, temporarily add another
in Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards, Add New Keyboard. You may add
arbitrary one.

b. Open the Notes app.

c. Create a new note.

d. Hold down L1 and press B7 to turn off the quick navigation option.

e. Press L3 to turn RiVO into typing mode.

f. Hold down L1 and press L3 a few times to cycle through the list of
software keyboards.

g. Hold down L1 and press B7 to turn on the quick navigation option.

h. Now RiVO should work fine. If you want, you may delete the software
keyboard temporarily added at Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards.

Thanks.
Best regards,

RiVO team at Mobience

RiVO: mobience.com/rivo
Twitter: twitter.com/mobience
Facebook: facebook.com/mobience




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Re: ICloud for windows 4.0

[Oriol Gómez]

how do you access icloud drive?

On 9/21/14, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> I installed the new verison of Iclod for Windows released just this
> week. There were no conflicts and I now have my Icloudmail and an
> Icloud drive on my windows lap top.
>
> On 9/20/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> No, I completely removed it.  I never found it all that accessible on a
>> Windows machine.
>>
>> But, that was probably early version 3 or late version 2.
>>
>>
>>
>> I back up to my computer and then back the computer up to an external
>> drive,
>> so I never felt a huge need to fight with iCloud.
>>
>>
>>
>> But, I've read elsewhere about this kind of error.
>>
>>
>>
>> You might google the exact phrasing of the error and see what you find.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: ICloud for windows 4.0
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.  Are you currently running a version of ICloud?  I'm running
>>
>> ICloud version 3.x, I assume the last version of version 3 with no
>> problems.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: ICloud for windows 4.0
>>
>>
>>
>> There has been a conflict with iCloud for Windows for a while now.
>>
>> I ended up uninstalling it several versions ago when I got a similar
>> error
>> and I have not seen that error again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: ICloud for windows 4.0
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this is on topic.  I ran apple software update and updated ICloud
>> to
>> 4.0.  When I restarted, I got an error saying something like a library
>> couldn't be found and it had something to do with a program that had
>> "bookmark" in its name.  Has anyone else experienced it.  I restored my
>> pc
>> to a point before the update and all is well now.
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Braille Keyboard in iOs8

[Sandy Finley]

When I calibrate the dots on the Braille keyboard there is a difference in
Table and Away modes. In Table mode dots 1, 2, and 3 appear on the right of
the cell; in Away mode they appear on the left. This means that the Table
Mode produces a backwards Braille cell. Is anyone else having this issue? 

 

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Re: KNFB Reader crashing on iPhone6

[Alex Hall]

I don't have the app, but sometimes a new app will crash upon being opened. 
Normally, simply turning your phone completely off (by holding the lock button, 
then double tapping the "slide to power off" button) and then back on is enough 
to fix this problem. Give that a try and see if the crashing continues.
On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:43 AM, Graham Roby  wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> Is anyone else experiencing the fantastic KNFB Reader constantly crashing on 
> their iPhone6?
> Interestingly I installed it on my iPhone5 and it worked flawlessly.
>  
> Kind regards
>  
> Graham
>  
>  
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Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

[Kimberly Carmichael]

I just tried to share K in F be reader with someone on my family share plan. I 
went to my purchases, and went under my name and then downloaded it to that 
person's device. It's been said that this app is no longer shared with you and 
you must purchase it from the app store.I would have gone to family share 
purchases, but the button is dimmed. Can anybody tell me how I can share this 
app?

Thanks

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Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Deb, it's just another app in this regard and it is also enabled for the 
> new iOS 8 family sharing.
> Bonnie and I share an account and I was able to put it on her phone without 
> issues.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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> 
>> On 19/09/2014, at 4:02 am, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Does the KNFB Reader have a limited number of installs or is it
>> available to all phones on the account? Asking because I do plan to
>> upgrade but it will be a few weeks. I'd buy it now and use it on my 5S
>> if it has unlimited installations as most do.
>> 
>>> On 9/18/14, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>> What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of gibberish
>>> and some readable text but not much. Is there a technique for this? Does the
>>> reader give some kind of feedback when all text's detected? Anyways now i
>>> know that it's me and not the app that's stupid.:-)
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 18 sep 2014 kl. 17:37 skrev Harry Bell :
 
 I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it really is
 pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on a small bread mix
 bag where the text was incredibly tiny and brown on a beige background.
 The results were very quick and about 95% accurate! Harry
 
 
 
 On 18 Sep 2014, at 13:23, Anthony Vece >>> > wrote:
 
> Eileen;
> 
> I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s.
> 
> If and, when I do, I'let everyone know.
> 
> 
> Sentence from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
> 
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this time, I'm
>> going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on which iPhone 6 I
>> will purchase. This is my question to this thread. For those who invest
>> in the KNFB Reader app and have purchased either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus,
>> it would be terrific to post on the accuracy of the app in comparison to
>> the phone that they originally installed the app on. Also, if one can
>> also comment on the use of the app with the 6 plus in particular because
>> of the optical stabilization. ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if
>> your use of the app was with the StandScan or with some other type of
>> stand.
>> 
>> Thanks so much for your first impressions.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G > > wrote:
>> 
>>> It is now available on the app store to download.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Regards, Feliciano
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from the Super-iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller" >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Jonathan,
 So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store?
 
 Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you just
 holding the phone over the page or item?
 
 Thanks so much, this is very encouraging!
 
 Brian M
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
 
 I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my
 iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed.
 I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it
 came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly well. It
 read the page of a book perfectly, and it read a letter I received in
 the mail. The feedback one gets via vibration to line up the picture
 is incredibly helpful. Yo

Re: phone doesn't vibrate

[Kerri]

yes, it most certainly is a bug, I encounter the same issue.
***
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On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Has anyone tested this with VoiceOver disabled?
> On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:29 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
>> Correct, this was not the case in any of the previous iOS versions. 
>> Therefore, it is a bug.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 14:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This may be another of the iOS 8 bugs.
>>> I just tested my work iPhone 5 and if I have vibrate on ring on and vibrate
>>> on silent on, I get exactly what you get.  If the phone is not muted, it
>>> both vibrates and rings.
>>> If I mute it, then it vibrates once and then VoiceOver says "accept."
>>> If I set the vibration to off for ring, but on for silent, then when the
>>> phone is muted it vibrates until it gets answered or the person hangs up.
>>> It does the same on my personal 5S.
>>> 
>>> So, I think in iOS 8, if you want it to vibrate when muted, you have to set
>>> vibrate on ring to off and have vibrate on silent on.
>>> 
>>> I am pretty sure this was not the case in iOS 7, but I could be wrong.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> It is probably worth reporting it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Rebecca Ilniski
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:16 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: phone doesn't vibrate
>>> 
>>> Hi all.  I'm having an issue with my i phone 5S that has started 
>>> happening recently.  If my phone is not on mute, it will ring and 
>>> vibrate just fine.  If it's muted, the phone will not vibrate.  It will 
>>> only vibrate one time and then the caller ID comes up where you have to 
>>> accept or decline.  It will not continue bvibrating to let me know the 
>>> phone is receiving a call.  I went in to the settings and both the 
>>> sounds vibrate on silent is on as well as the other setting that has to 
>>> do with vibrating.  I've been dealing with the apple accessibility and 
>>> had to restore my phone which didn't fix the issue.  I also lost the 
>>> Alex voice and have to redownload.  I'm not a happy camper and am 
>>> considering going to the TMobile store and getting a diffferent 5S or 
>>> something.  Anyone else seen this behavior and is it a bug?  Any ideas 
>>> on how to fix it?  I can't have a phone that doesn't vibrate on silent.  
>>> It will vibrate for the alerts that come across.
>>> 
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Re: alex

[Kerri]

I couldn't agree more, I trashed him an went navy to Samantha on the phone (a 
5S) bu ton the iPad mini 2.PS, I'm new here, please bear with me or give me the 
boot, you decide grin.

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On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> He doesn't sound as good as he does on the Mac. 
> 
> Sent from my iPod 5
> 
> keychat/google talk:
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
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> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 14:12, Alan Paganelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've downloaded Alex on both my 5s and iPad Air.  For an 869 meg download I 
>> was expecting to be wowed.  I can't in all honesty say that this was the 
>> case.  He just doesn't sound as natural as the hype said he would.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: alex
>> 
>> 
>> What iDevice do you have? Alex, even though it sucks, runs only on 64bit 
>> processors. They should've made it for other devices too like it sounded 
>> like they were going to do in the first place.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Corey Michael Cook  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have and it is not there
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Facebook:
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Jim Ruby
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 7:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: alex
>>> 
>>> Go to settings/ general/ accessability/ voice over/ speech/
>>> 
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>>> Of Corey Michael Cook
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:50 PM
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>>> 
>>> How do you get alex?
>>> 
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Re: alex

[Wes Smith]

Restart Voiceover

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> I've downloaded Alex onto my iPad mini, which has the right kind of chip, and 
> although Alex is present in the voice rotor and it is selected in Voiceover 
> settings as default US voice, I can't hear him. Instead i hear Samantha.  Has 
> anyone else had this experience?
> 
> Andrew
>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 05:56, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, I don't really like Alex on the Mac but he's okay with me on my 
>> iPhone.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:23 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> He doesn't sound as good as he does on the Mac. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod 5
>>> 
>>> keychat/google talk:
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>> primary email:
>>> d.pra...@me.com
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>>> devinpra...@live.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 14:12, Alan Paganelli  
 wrote:
 
 I've downloaded Alex on both my 5s and iPad Air.  For an 869 meg download 
 I was expecting to be wowed.  I can't in all honesty say that this was the 
 case.  He just doesn't sound as natural as the hype said he would.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
 my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:38 PM
 Subject: Re: alex
 
 
 What iDevice do you have? Alex, even though it sucks, runs only on 64bit 
 processors. They should've made it for other devices too like it sounded 
 like they were going to do in the first place.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Corey Michael Cook  
> wrote:
> 
> I have and it is not there
> 
> 
> Corey Cook
> Facebook:
> corey.coo...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 7:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: alex
> 
> Go to settings/ general/ accessability/ voice over/ speech/
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Corey Michael Cook
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> How do you get alex?
> 
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New member

[Donna]

I soon will be getting a I phone and know not much is this a list 
where I may get help when I need it?

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Re: Braille Keyboard in iOs8

[Alex Hall]

Yes, and no matter what I do I can't get things to come out normally. I thought 
it was just me; glad to know others are having this problem, even if it proves 
to be yet one more bug.
On Sep 21, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Sandy Finley  wrote:

> When I calibrate the dots on the Braille keyboard there is a difference in 
> Table and Away modes. In Table mode dots 1, 2, and 3 appear on the right of 
> the cell; in Away mode they appear on the left. This means that the Table 
> Mode produces a backwards Braille cell. Is anyone else having this issue?
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Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

[Christopher huby]

This app sounds very good however why would like to noise does it use the 
Internet to translate what it has taken a photograph of and if so is there a 
way you can do it off-line



On 18 Sep 2014, at 9:37 pm, Chuck Dean  wrote:

Here's a link to the cayenne FB reader apps page in the App Store:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=8

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Ron Pelletier  
> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
>  
> What is the app called in the app store? I searched for KNFB and didn’t find 
> anything. Perhaps its not in the Canadian app store yet. I, for sure am 
> getting it when I can find it
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Mosen
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> Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
>  
> I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my iPhone 5s. 
> I couldn't be more impressed.
> I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it came to 
> reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly well. It read the page of 
> a book perfectly, and it read a letter I received in the mail. The feedback 
> one gets via vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful. You can 
> use the field of view report if you need to for even more information about 
> camera positioning and angle.
> And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting speech.
> It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations. Certainly 
> it's possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing this simple, fast, or 
> accurate without any additional aids. Outstanding stuff.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Sorry, more questions

[Eve]

Hi All,

I have three questions that I can't resolve.  I got my IPhone 5 on Wednesday 
and I love it!
First:  I can connect my iPhone to the computer, but can't add ringtones. 
It's like the computer keyboard freezes up, and I can't do anything.


Second:  How do you erase text and voicemail messages?

When I got the phone, I had someone at the Verizon store turn on voiceover 
for me as well as create an apple id.  Are there any other settings that I 
should change?

Thanks so much.  You guys are always so helpful!

Eve

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Re: New member

[Alex Hall]

Welcome to the list. Yes, you can ask any questions you have on here. I'd also 
suggest that you look at www.applevis.com for even more resources - guides, 
podcasts, forums, and more, plus accessibility-centered app reviews
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RE: Ear-phones stopped working suddenly in iPad mini

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is possible, but not likely. Most likely just the sound volume got turned
to 0 somehow. iDevices keep track of earphone volume and speaker volume
separately which explains why the external speaker is working. Here is what
you should try:

Go to your home screen
Plug in your earphones and do a 2-finger swipe up. This will cause Voiceover
to start reading from the top.
Now repeatedly press the volume up button onl your headset and see if the
volume comes back.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:52 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Ear-phones stopped working suddenly in iPad mini

Listers,

I was using my retina iPad mini using my ear-phones when all of sudden I
lost sound.  At first I thought my iPad had frozen.  But when I unplugged
the ear-phones, I could again hear Voiceover.  I tried another pair of
ear-phones and the same thing happened.  When I twiddle the jack in the
ear-phone jacket, I can hear tiny crackling and a semblance of sound for a
mini-second.  Do you think that my iPad has developed a fault with the
ear-phone socket?

Many thanks,

Andrew

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RE: Deleting Books in Audible

[Sieghard Weitzel]

1.   Double tap the top delete button (to the left of refresh)

2.   Now you first have to double tap on Edit Mode. There will be an Edit 
Mode button to the left of each title near the edge of the screen. I at least 
can’t swipe to that button, I have to find it by moving my finger straight to 
the left from the title I want to delete. When you find it, double tap it.

3.   Now double tap the delete button to the right of the book title.

 

 


Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Craig Borne
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Deleting Books in Audible

 

Hello all,

I noticed that someone commented on how to delete a book in the latest update 
to the Audible.com app (September 2014), but for the life of me, I can’t find 
the original answer detailing how it is done.

There is a “delete” button between “recent” and “refresh,” and then there is a 
“delete” button to the right of the book title I wish to delete.  I’ve tried 
multiple combinations of these buttons to delete the book from my device (not 
my library), and the result is that Audible begins playing the book.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Craig

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Just type knfb and not with the reader added and should find it as I did;
but, hadn't bought it yet.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

Ok guys, but I am searching in the appstore for knfb reader, and appears
something like leo or something like that. It is the only result related
with knfb reader. Any clue searching this app in the app store?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

Sieghard,

 

I found exactly what you did. The company did not let us down. Its really
worth its money.  It sounded a bit expensive at the beginning but, when you
see what it does, its worth every penny.  I'm about to delete all the others
also.

I still would like the vibrator to work in the vertical to position for
documents mounted on the wall or bulletin boards.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

I purchased KNFB Reader this morning and tried it with a few printed
documents including a plain letter asking for a donation, an invoice and
something else. I used the phone in portrait mode and also had the letter
size document in portrait mode. KNFB Reader did an outstanding job on the
letter and I had very good results from the invoice and the other document.
The app is outstanding and I have already deleted Prizmo and Text Grabber
from my phone since I don't see myself using them any more now that I have
KNFB Reader.

 

The tilt feedback via vibrations is very useful and the field of view report
is amazing. The fact that it tells you whether you are holding the phone
even the slightest little bit turned with respect to the page qlong with
which edges are visible is awesome.

As Jonathan already pointed out the recognition is lightning fast and what I
really like is how simple the app is. They have definitely outdone
themselves with that app.

I have yet to put it through its paces in other situations, but I am already
very happy about my $100 investment as I know that it will be of much use in
the years to come.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

I contacted support at KNFB Reader and was advised to use portrait mode if
possible, both for the document layout and with the phone.

On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kayaker  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying that
taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a portrait improves
results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels lost is on the
order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides to meaningless
background if a full portrait page is in view in landscape

 

I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue.
Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels.

 

 

-k

Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
questions.

 

 

 

On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

 

There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better results.

I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille Press.
it does a great job of helping a blind person understand photography.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org  

 

On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom 
wrote:

 

I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of the
document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they've been thinking
there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not hold the phone
with the camera pointing to the top of the document but rather as if i had
it in landscape mode?

/Krister

 

18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen :

 

Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what you're doing,
but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the phone
lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by putting a page of
text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or visually. Then
hold the phone sideways a few centimetres above the page. Use the vibration
feedback so that the phone stops vibrating, indicating you have the angle
right, then take the picture. For further feedback before you take the
picture, you might use the field of view report, particularly in the early
stages.

Good luck. 

Re: bluetooth keyboard and IOS 8

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello, your control and option keys are next to function in command which are 
on the left and right hand side of the keyboard. Command will be the right hand 
and function will be the left-hand Side of the keyboard
On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Charles Rivard  wrote:

> I very recently got an Apple Bluetooth keyboard, so am not used to the 
> layout.  Which is the V-O key?
> 
> Unfortunately, I left it at a neighbor's house before getting the upgrade, so 
> will have to retrieve it tomorrow.
> 
> ---
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> you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message - From: "Frank Ventura" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:33 PM
> Subject: RE: bluetooth keyboard and IOS 8
> 
> 
> Has anyone figured out how to activate the home button via the keyboard in 
> iOS 8. Previously you could do VO H and it would work but now it just says 
> something about  a heading?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Deb Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard and IOS 8
> 
> Use Quick Nav to get most of the voiceover commands. You'll have to turn 
> quick nav off to type. Pay attention because voiceover may restart 
> occasionally in all this. Big nuisance but you might be able to work around 
> it in this way.
> 
> On 9/17/14, Ray T. Mahorney  wrote:
>> well folks I made the mistake of upgrading and with the amazon basics
>> keyboard the vo commands are not functioning.
>> 
>> 
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 22:40
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: bluetooth keyboard and IOS 8
>> 
>> Robert,
>> 
>> Fairly wide spread and apparently inconsistent bluetooth keyboard
>> problems have been one of the issues many of the bug reports have been
>> focused on. I posted several messages which theoretically were in
>> violation of the NDA I agreed to when I signed up for my developer
>> account and pointed out some of the bugs. I along with several others
>> repeatedly warned people not to upgrade right away and to be fully
>> informed about the bugs. Now that you have upgraded you will have to
>> live with it until Apple fixes it. I know others who say Vo bluetooth
>> commands don't work for them. I have an iPhone 5S and a Logitech K811
>> bluetooth keyboard and Vo commands work for me just fine. My only
>> issue seems to be that I have to turn quick nav off in order to type
>> anything in any edit field, apart from that it's working OK.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: bluetooth keyboard and IOS 8
>> 
>> Ever since upgrading I can no longer use the voiceover keyboard commands.
>> the only ones that work are the arrow keys and the rotor.  I even
>> tried forgetting the device, shutting down the phone, turning it on
>> and pairing the keyboard again the only keys that seem to work are the
>> arrow keys, escape and caps lock.
>> 
>> ***
>> If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
>> learning start?
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RE: Appliance Control

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, it will be interesting to see what companies will be showing at the
next Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas in January. Developers both for
hardware and for apps had access to iOS 8 Beta since June and hopefully
we'll start seeing devices soon.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Appliance Control

 

You mean HomeKit. Yes, iOS8 has it, but no devices yet officially support
it. It is more of a communications standard so that appliances can hook into
Siri and a unified control system, but there is no user-facing app yet, it's
all behind the scenes and brand new for the moment.

On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:59 AM, John Diakogeorgiou mailto:jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> > wrote:





IOS 8 is supposed to have an app which can control appliances, lights,
locks, etc. Does anyone know where this feature is located or how it
works?

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RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

All OCR is done on the device, in fact, you can put your phone in Airplane Mode 
and it still works just the same.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher huby
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

This app sounds very good however why would like to noise does it use the 
Internet to translate what it has taken a photograph of and if so is there a 
way you can do it off-line

 


On 18 Sep 2014, at 9:37 pm, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Here's a link to the cayenne FB reader apps page in the App Store:

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=8

Chuck (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Ron Pelletier mailto:ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> > wrote:

Jonathan,

 

What is the app called in the app store? I searched for KNFB and didn’t find 
anything. Perhaps its not in the Canadian app store yet. I, for sure am getting 
it when I can find it

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my iPhone 5s. I 
couldn't be more impressed.

I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it came to 
reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly well. It read the page of a 
book perfectly, and it read a letter I received in the mail. The feedback one 
gets via vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful. You can use 
the field of view report if you need to for even more information about camera 
positioning and angle.

And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting speech.

It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations. Certainly it's 
possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing this simple, fast, or 
accurate without any additional aids. Outstanding stuff.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

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KNFB Reader

[Judy Holloway]

Hi. I bought the KNFB reader and I think it is excellent! I am using an
iPhone 5 with IOS 7 because I haven't upgraded yet. I thought Prizmo met my
needs but the KNFB reader works much better, and it has a file structure for
saving documents. I was put off by the price but the KNFB readers delivers. 

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 



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