RE: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jen and others,

 

I just installed iTunes 12 and played around with it for maybe 10 minutes. 
Without spending more time I would say you can’t see your entire list of songs. 
I have been using iTunes 11 with the sidebar disaled ever since it came out and 
liked it better, but I am not so sure if I like iTunes 12 yet. For one thing I 
think it’s a pitty that the column vbrowser is gone, it was such a great way to 
filter by genre, artist or album.

 

Apps, by the way, is under the more tab. Take note of the shortcut keys. They 
were already there in iTunes 11 and as far as I can tell they haven’t vchanged. 
Here are some of the important ones (this applies to Windows):

 

Alt+1 = Music

Alt+2 = Movies

Alt+7 = Apps

Alt+8 = Tones

 

I like how iTunes 12 seems simpler, but as I said, I really liked the column 
browser. I might have to sit down with one of these weird people (you know, the 
ones with functioning eyeballs) and get them to explain the visual layout in 
details as this might help me understand how to make the most out of this. Of 
course I might also wait until Jonathan figures it all out and does one of his 
awesome Podcasts. OK, are you reading this, Jonathan, Jaws 16 happens to be 
almost out of public beta so get to it *smile*.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread christopher hallsworth
Actually, the column browser is still there, just hidden by default. It is the 
same key command as well; control-b.

Sent from my iPad 

 On 19 Oct 2014, at 07:42, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Jen and others,
  
 I just installed iTunes 12 and played around with it for maybe 10 minutes. 
 Without spending more time I would say you can’t see your entire list of 
 songs. I have been using iTunes 11 with the sidebar disaled ever since it 
 came out and liked it better, but I am not so sure if I like iTunes 12 yet. 
 For one thing I think it’s a pitty that the column vbrowser is gone, it was 
 such a great way to filter by genre, artist or album.
  
 Apps, by the way, is under the more tab. Take note of the shortcut keys. They 
 were already there in iTunes 11 and as far as I can tell they haven’t 
 vchanged. Here are some of the important ones (this applies to Windows):
  
 Alt+1 = Music
 Alt+2 = Movies
 Alt+7 = Apps
 Alt+8 = Tones
  
 I like how iTunes 12 seems simpler, but as I said, I really liked the column 
 browser. I might have to sit down with one of these weird people (you know, 
 the ones with functioning eyeballs) and get them to explain the visual layout 
 in details as this might help me understand how to make the most out of this. 
 Of course I might also wait until Jonathan figures it all out and does one of 
 his awesome Podcasts. OK, are you reading this, Jonathan, Jaws 16 happens to 
 be almost out of public beta so get to it *smile*.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
  
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iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it's
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list
view with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set
the button by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists,
there is an All Artists selection at the very top of the list and if you
select that and then tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by
pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the
list, these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were
radio buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had
to check the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and
bingo, as soon as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and
Album columns and I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just
as before. brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I
always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press
Control+F to jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called
Search Options, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked
by pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to Movies, TV Shows and
then More. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these
might not be there if you don't enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones,
Podcasts etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music,
then the 3 buttons are:

 

My Music - this is your music library with all your ripped CD's and
purchased music

 

Playlists - your Playlists

iTunes Store - takes you to the iTunes Store

 

Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you
are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to Songs and press
enter.

Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist
and then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.

 

One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is
available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where it is
not yet available I don't know if it is under More or if it is another
main radio button like Music, Movies, TV Shows etc.

 

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

 

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Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread christopher hallsworth
The ability to show and hide items has gone as of iTunes 12. For those still 
running 11 I'm talking about the check boxes located in the general section of 
iTunes preferences.

Sent from my iPad 

 On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:25, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello Listers,
  
 OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it’s 
 getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list 
 view with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the 
 button by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there 
 is an “All Artists” selection at the very top of the list and if you select 
 that and then tab once into the list view all songs do show up.
  
 I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:
  
 Songs
 Albums
 Artists
 Composers
 Genres
  
 I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by 
 pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the 
 list, these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were 
 radio buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had 
 to check the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and 
 bingo, as soon as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and 
 Album columns and I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just 
 as before… brilliant!
  
 So, here again is what to look for:
  
 Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I 
 always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press 
 Control+F to jump to that search field.
 Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
 “Search Options”, this is just like iTunes 11.
 Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked 
 by pressing the spacebar.
 After the music radio button if you tab you get to “Movies”, “TV Shows” and 
 then “More”. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
 might not be there if you don’t enable them in Preferences.
 Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
 etc.
 Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
 which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
 then the 3 buttons are:
  
 My Music – this is your music library with all your ripped CD’s and purchased 
 music
  
 Playlists – your Playlists
 iTunes Store – takes you to the iTunes Store
  
 Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select 
 from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is 
 displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you 
 are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to “Songs” and press 
 enter.
 Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist 
 and then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.
  
 One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is 
 available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where it is 
 not yet available I don’t know if it is under “More” or if it is another main 
 radio button like Music, Movies, TV Shows etc.
  
  
 Good luck,
 Sieghard
  
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Another iTunes 12 discovery

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hekllo again,

 

So, one other thing I discovered. You have these radio buttons for Music,
Movies, tV Shows, More etc. If you go to more where you find a lot of the
other stuff like Apps, Books, Tones and so on there is an Edit button. If
you tab to it and activate it and then tab again, you will find checkboxes
and the other items. If you check some of the checkboxes which are not
checked (each checkbox for an item is before the item is announced) then the
item will be listed as a radio button in that main view. For example, if you
want Apps to be a radio button in the main icon list where you have Music,
Movies and More, just activate the Edit button, then tab until you hear
Apps. Now Shift+Tab once to the checkbox before Apps and check it. Now Apps
will be in your main list.

Similarly you can of course uncheck items you don't want and hide them. If
you don't have TV Shows and it's in that series of radio buttons, then just
go to More, tab to the Edit button and activate it. Now tab until you hear
TV Shows, Shift+Tab once, uncheck the box and it will be gone.

 

Also, as Christopher pointed out, the column browser shortcut key apparently
still works, but I believe just as in iTunes 11 you have to select Songs
otherwise the column browser won't work.

 

OK, I now officially like iTunes 12.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Accessable draughts

2014-10-19 Thread Dave Sheridan
Exactly Flor, which is why we shouldn't jump too quickly on occasional poor 
spelling,otherwise we'd be doing so constantly. Interesting though... 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 18 Oct 2014, at 22:28, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 Ah. In Most of the world's English, that is, outside the US, breezes are 
 usually, d r a u g h t s .
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Rivard
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessable draughts
 
 Maybe, but the game I am aware of is D R A U G H T S.  Breezes are D R A F T 
 S.  Both sound alike when using a screen reader.
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Sheridan
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessable draughts
 
 That's a novelty having an American correcting our spelling of english! ☺️
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:36, Christopher huby chrishub...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry my spelling is not grate yes i did mean draughts 
 
 Regards christopher huby 
 
 
 
 On 18 Oct 2014, at 7:47 pm, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 
 What are drafts.  I've never even heard of the game, unless you are 
 referring to, and note the spelling,  draughts, which is like what we call 
 checkers in the United States.  Thanks.
 
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 you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessable draughts
 
 Try DraftsWise.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 19 Oct 2014, at 04:19, Christopher huby chrishub...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: christopher huby christopher.h...@hotmail.co.uk
 Date: 18 October 2014 4:15:35 pm BST
 To: iphone usergroup iOS i...@groups.a11y.us
 Subject: Accessable draughts
 
 Hi does anyone know of a accessable draughts game
 
 Regards 
 
 Christopher huby 
 
 
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RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
OK, I hadn’t check that, but you can now do this in the More tab, just find the 
Edit button and uncheck what you want or now want there. Note that if you hear 
“Apps” and tab to the checkbox after Apps then that is the checkbox that goes 
with the next item, if you want to check or uncheck (hide or unhide) Apps, then 
the checkbox for that is right before it is announced.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghardfor the 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

The ability to show and hide items has gone as of iTunes 12. For those still 
running 11 I'm talking about the check boxes located in the general section of 
iTunes preferences.

Sent from my iPad 


On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:25, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it’s 
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list view 
with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the button 
by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there is an “All 
Artists” selection at the very top of the list and if you select that and then 
tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by pressing 
enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the list, these 
were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were radio buttons. 
So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had to check the Songs 
radio button in order to enable the column browser and bingo, as soon as I did 
so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and Album columns and I can 
select and narrow my music down by any of these just as before… brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I always 
find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press Control+F to 
jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
“Search Options”, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked by 
pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to “Movies”, “TV Shows” and 
then “More”. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
might not be there if you don’t enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
then the 3 buttons are:

 

My Music – this is your music library with all your ripped CD’s and purchased 
music

 

Playlists – your Playlists

iTunes Store – takes you to the iTunes Store

 

Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select 
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is 
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you 
are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to “Songs” and press 
enter.

Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist and 
then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.

 

One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is 
available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where it is not 
yet available I don’t know if it is under “More” or if it is another main radio 
button like Music, Movies, TV Shows etc.

 

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

 

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Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'massuming all the tabbing instructions are for Windows. Just to clarify for 
others reading this, the explanation given below is very similar on the Mac but 
vo-keys works fine. Maybe it wasn'tnecessary to say this but I could see 
somebody reading this description and missing the explanation that this is in 
Windows even though it definitely was stated. I hope nobody will mind if this 
seems redundant to you.
  
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello Listers,
  
 OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it's 
 getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list 
 view with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the 
 button by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there 
 is an All Artists selection at the very top of the list and if you select 
 that and then tab once into the list view all songs do show up.
  
 I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:
  
 Songs
 Albums
 Artists
 Composers
 Genres
  
 I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by 
 pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the 
 list, these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were 
 radio buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had 
 to check the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and 
 bingo, as soon as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and 
 Album columns and I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just 
 as before... brilliant!
  
 So, here again is what to look for:
  
 Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I 
 always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press 
 Control+F to jump to that search field.
 Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
 Search Options, this is just like iTunes 11.
 Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked 
 by pressing the spacebar.
 After the music radio button if you tab you get to Movies, TV Shows and 
 then More. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
 might not be there if you don't enable them in Preferences.
 Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
 etc.
 Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
 which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
 then the 3 buttons are:
  
 My Music - this is your music library with all your ripped CD's and purchased 
 music
  
 Playlists - your Playlists
 iTunes Store - takes you to the iTunes Store
  
 Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select 
 from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is 
 displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you 
 are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to Songs and press 
 enter.
 Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist 
 and then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.
  
 One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is 
 available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where it is 
 not yet available I don't know if it is under More or if it is another main 
 radio button like Music, Movies, TV Shows etc.
  
  
 Good luck,
 Sieghard
  
 
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Re: Opening documents from an attachment

2014-10-19 Thread christopher hallsworth
Homm, how do I open documents attached on my iPad? I couldn't find anything 
related to double tap on. Running 8.0.2 on a Mini 2. Thanks! 

Sent from my iPad 

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 Yes, I have had this problem ever since updating to IOS. Eight. I can locate 
 the attachment and double tap on it all day long it still will not open. He 
 has a success please let me know.
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RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Maybe I should have pointed this out at the beginning, but I do say further
into the email: Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

I'massuming all the tabbing instructions are for Windows. Just to clarify
for others reading this, the explanation given below is very similar on the
Mac but vo-keys works fine. Maybe it wasn'tnecessary to say this but I could
see somebody reading this description and missing the explanation that this
is in Windows even though it definitely was stated. I hope nobody will mind
if this seems redundant to you.

  

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

 

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it's
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list
view with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set
the button by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists,
there is an All Artists selection at the very top of the list and if you
select that and then tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by
pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the
list, these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were
radio buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had
to check the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and
bingo, as soon as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and
Album columns and I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just
as before. brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I
always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press
Control+F to jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called
Search Options, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked
by pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to Movies, TV Shows and
then More. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these
might not be there if you don't enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones,
Podcasts etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music,
then the 3 buttons are:

 

My Music - this is your music library with all your ripped CD's and
purchased music

 

Playlists - your Playlists

iTunes Store - takes you to the iTunes Store

 

Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you
are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to Songs and press
enter.

Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist
and then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.

 

One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is
available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where it is
not yet available I don't know if it is under More or if it is another
main radio button like Music, Movies, TV Shows etc.

 

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Where do I go to get to my device when I wish to sync new music, apps or tones 
to my device?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:25 AM
  Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back


  Hello Listers,

   

  OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it's 
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list view 
with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the button 
by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there is an All 
Artists selection at the very top of the list and if you select that and then 
tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

   

  I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

   

  Songs

  Albums

  Artists

  Composers

  Genres

   

  I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by 
pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the list, 
these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were radio 
buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had to check 
the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and bingo, as soon 
as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and Album columns and 
I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just as before. brilliant!

   

  So, here again is what to look for:

   

  Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I 
always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press 
Control+F to jump to that search field.

  Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
Search Options, this is just like iTunes 11.

  Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked 
by pressing the spacebar.

  After the music radio button if you tab you get to Movies, TV Shows and 
then More. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
might not be there if you don't enable them in Preferences.

  Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
etc.

  Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
then the 3 buttons are:

   

  My Music - this is your music library with all your ripped CD's and purchased 
music

   

  Playlists - your Playlists

  iTunes Store - takes you to the iTunes Store

   

  Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select 
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is 
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you 
are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to Songs and press 
enter.

  Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist 
and then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.

   

  One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is 
available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where it is not 
yet available I don't know if it is under More or if it is another main radio 
button like Music, Movies, TV Shows etc.

   

   

  Good luck,

  Sieghard

   


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Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

2014-10-19 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though
their were a couple I didn't know about.

On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 OK.  I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum again.
 I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot
 claimed that the library and such was under playlists.  It didn't make
 sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source.  Just another example
 of
 you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet.



 So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very
 different.

 I am using Windows 8.1.

 Here are some hot keys that might help:

 control+1 = Music

 Control+2 = Movies

 Control+3 = TV Shows

 Control+4 = Podcasts

 Control+5 = iTunes U

 Control+6 = Auydio Books

 Control+7 = Apps

 Control+8 = Tones

 Control+9 = iTunes Radio

 Control+j = View Options

 Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next

 D = Show Duplicate Items

 Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads



 You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what
 works
 best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc.

 I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible.



 Richard







 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Charles Rivard
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar



 As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes.


 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
 finished,
 you! really! are! finished!

 - Original Message -

 From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM

 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar



 Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't
 understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio
 buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows.
 Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what
 happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also
 check
 with vo-space.



 --

 Cheryl



 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

 thrown in the trash!

 Then God gave me a new heart and life:

 His joy for my despairing tears!

 And now, every day:

 This I call to mind,

 and therefore I have hope:

 The steadfast love of the Lord

 never ceases;

 his mercies never come to an end;

 they are new every morning;

 great is your faithfulness.

 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)









 On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 mailto:batsfly...@me.com  wrote:



 I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use
 tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes
 for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc.,
 like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But
 the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me.



 Teresa

 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Yes, the buttons are accessible.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com

 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

 Sent from my iPhone


 On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi David,





 So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet
 upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M?





 Thanks:





 Eileen


 Sent from my iPhone


 On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the
 display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use.
 ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer
 anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more
 (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio,
 exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly
 underneath the bar with the play buttons.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com

 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

 Sent from my iPhone


 On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
 mailto:challswor...@icloud.com  wrote:

 Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for
 those
 accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists.

 On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
 

RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi John,

I am not sure why you think these hot keys wouldn't be native to iTunes 12.
They do work perfectly well and in fact I miswrote earlier because I wrote
Alt+1, Aklt+2 etc. and it is of course Control+1, Control+2 and so on. These
worked in iTunes 11 (at least most of them) and they work even better in
iTunes 12. I am also using Jaws and Richard said he is using Window Eyes so
since they work both for me and for him they can't be Jaws or Window Eyes
specific hot keys.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though
their were a couple I didn't know about.

On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 OK.  I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum
again.
 I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot
 claimed that the library and such was under playlists.  It didn't make
 sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source.  Just another example
 of
 you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet.



 So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very
 different.

 I am using Windows 8.1.

 Here are some hot keys that might help:

 control+1 = Music

 Control+2 = Movies

 Control+3 = TV Shows

 Control+4 = Podcasts

 Control+5 = iTunes U

 Control+6 = Auydio Books

 Control+7 = Apps

 Control+8 = Tones

 Control+9 = iTunes Radio

 Control+j = View Options

 Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next

 D = Show Duplicate Items

 Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads



 You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what
 works
 best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc.

 I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible.



 Richard







 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Charles Rivard
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar



 As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes.


 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
 finished,
 you! really! are! finished!

 - Original Message -

 From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM

 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar



 Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't
 understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio
 buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows.
 Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what
 happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also
 check
 with vo-space.



 --

 Cheryl



 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

 thrown in the trash!

 Then God gave me a new heart and life:

 His joy for my despairing tears!

 And now, every day:

 This I call to mind,

 and therefore I have hope:

 The steadfast love of the Lord

 never ceases;

 his mercies never come to an end;

 they are new every morning;

 great is your faithfulness.

 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)









 On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 mailto:batsfly...@me.com  wrote:



 I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use
 tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes
 for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies,
etc.,
 like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad.
But
 the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me.



 Teresa

 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Yes, the buttons are accessible.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com

 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

 Sent from my iPhone


 On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi David,





 So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet
 upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M?





 Thanks:





 Eileen


 Sent from my iPhone


 On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the
 display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to
use.
 ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer
 anything 

Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

2014-10-19 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
If I implied that I'm sorry. I was trying to say they existed before 12.

On 10/19/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi John,

 I am not sure why you think these hot keys wouldn't be native to iTunes 12.
 They do work perfectly well and in fact I miswrote earlier because I wrote
 Alt+1, Aklt+2 etc. and it is of course Control+1, Control+2 and so on.
 These
 worked in iTunes 11 (at least most of them) and they work even better in
 iTunes 12. I am also using Jaws and Richard said he is using Window Eyes so
 since they work both for me and for him they can't be Jaws or Window Eyes
 specific hot keys.

 Regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:52 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

 As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though
 their were a couple I didn't know about.

 On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 OK.  I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum
 again.
 I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some
 idiot
 claimed that the library and such was under playlists.  It didn't make
 sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source.  Just another example
 of
 you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet.



 So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very
 different.

 I am using Windows 8.1.

 Here are some hot keys that might help:

 control+1 = Music

 Control+2 = Movies

 Control+3 = TV Shows

 Control+4 = Podcasts

 Control+5 = iTunes U

 Control+6 = Auydio Books

 Control+7 = Apps

 Control+8 = Tones

 Control+9 = iTunes Radio

 Control+j = View Options

 Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next

 D = Show Duplicate Items

 Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads



 You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what
 works
 best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc.

 I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible.



 Richard







 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Charles Rivard
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar



 As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes.


 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
 finished,
 you! really! are! finished!

 - Original Message -

 From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM

 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar



 Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't
 understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio
 buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows.
 Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what
 happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also
 check
 with vo-space.



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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

 thrown in the trash!

 Then God gave me a new heart and life:

 His joy for my despairing tears!

 And now, every day:

 This I call to mind,

 and therefore I have hope:

 The steadfast love of the Lord

 never ceases;

 his mercies never come to an end;

 they are new every morning;

 great is your faithfulness.

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 On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 mailto:batsfly...@me.com  wrote:



 I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use
 tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes
 for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies,
 etc.,
 like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad.
 But
 the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me.



 Teresa

 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Yes, the buttons are accessible.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com

 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

 Sent from my iPhone


 On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi David,





 So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet
 upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M?





 Thanks:





 Eileen


 Sent from my iPhone


 On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the
 display. 

karaoke app?

2014-10-19 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
Hi.

does anyone know of a karaoke app that will let you play your own songs either 
from the songs on your phone, or from your iTunes library? I would like 
something with effects.  I already have and use sing, but the only accessible 
way to get your own songs in to the app, seems to be to record the music and I 
would like something where I can import my own stuff in. 

thanks  
regards
Maria and crew from australia
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



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RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Robert,

 

Your iPhone or iPad will show up as a button right after the series of radio
buttons, i.e. Music, Movies etc. Once you get to the More radio button tab
one more time and you are on the button for your device. If your device is
called Robert's iPhone then that is what the button will be called. Once
you activate the button, a tab or 2 gets you into a new treeview with all
your categories or whatever  you want to call them. Gone are the old radio
buttons for Summary, Info, Music, Apps, Tones etc. All of these are now in
that list view. If you want to manage your tones, just go to the first Tones
entry in that treeview and then tab across and you'll find everything else
is about the same as far as the checkboxes for Sync all Ringtones or
Synce selected ringtones and so on. Jaws announces the first item in that
treeview which is Summary as 2 of 21 on my computer. Not sure what 1 of
21 is but you can't go higher than Summary. Once you get past all the stuff
(apps, music, movies etc.) you come to the Info item which used to be
right next to Summary in iTunes 11. After that you find another set of many
of the same things like Apps, Music, Movies and so on and these are
referring to what is on your iPhone. If you select, for example, the second
Tones item and then tab you will come across a bunch of read only items
and eventually you'll find a list of all the tones on your phone whereas the
first Tones shows you all the Tones in your iTunes library with checkmarks
for those which are synced to your phone. After all the items you will then
find a list of your playlists which are synced to your device.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Where do I go to get to my device when I wish to sync new music, apps or
tones to my device?

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:25 AM

Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it's
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list
view with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set
the button by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists,
there is an All Artists selection at the very top of the list and if you
select that and then tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by
pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the
list, these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were
radio buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had
to check the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and
bingo, as soon as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and
Album columns and I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just
as before. brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I
always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press
Control+F to jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called
Search Options, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked
by pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to Movies, TV Shows and
then More. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these
might not be there if you don't enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones,
Podcasts etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music,
then the 3 buttons are:

 

My Music - this is your music library with all your ripped CD's and
purchased music

 

Playlists - your Playlists

iTunes Store - takes you to the iTunes Store

 

Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you
are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to Songs and press
enter.

Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist
and then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.

 

One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is
available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where 

RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Robert,

 

If you connect  your iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch the button to go to your
device will be just one tab over from the More radio button.

 

One thing that has changed here is that there are no longer the radio
buttons for Apps, Music, Tones etc. You now have a treeview with two
sections. At the top you have Summary which gives you all the familiar
information and where you can check for iOS updates, restore, backup and so
on. For some reason Jaws announces this as 2 of 21, there doesn't appear
to be a 1 of 21 at least not something you can go to.

Then after that are things like Apps, Music, Movies and so on. These
are like the radio buttons and if you want to sync Tones just arrow to Tones
and then tab across to Synce all tones or Sync selected tones, make your
selections and then go to File, Device and Sync.

About item 11 of 21 in my treeview is Info which used to be right after the
Summary radio button in iTunes 11. After that are again some of the same
listings as further up in the treeview, things like Music, Movies, TV Shows,
Tones and so on. If you go to one of these and tab you will find a list view
and these are all the items from which ever item you are on which are synced
to your device. At the bottom you find all your Playlists are listed by
name.

 

If you go to Music or Tones in that lower part of the treeview and then
tab across you also find a button called Add To. If I am on Tones and
activate it it opens a list with all my ringtones and I thought you could
maybe add more tones to your phone right from there, but unless this is not
accessible with a screenreader or I haven't figured it out yet, it doesn't
seem to be possible.

 

Once again this is all very nicely accessible and by now I think I already
like iTunes 12 better than iTunes 11 and definitely better than iTunes 10 or
what came before. 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghardyou activatea lithe same

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Where do I go to get to my device when I wish to sync new music, apps or
tones to my device?

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:25 AM

Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it's
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list
view with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set
the button by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists,
there is an All Artists selection at the very top of the list and if you
select that and then tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by
pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the
list, these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were
radio buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had
to check the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and
bingo, as soon as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and
Album columns and I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just
as before. brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I
always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press
Control+F to jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called
Search Options, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked
by pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to Movies, TV Shows and
then More. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these
might not be there if you don't enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones,
Podcasts etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music,
then the 3 buttons are:

 

My Music - this is your music library with all your ripped CD's and
purchased music

 

Playlists - your Playlists

iTunes Store - takes you to the iTunes Store

 

Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you
are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to Songs and press
enter.

Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is 

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2014-10-19 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi,

I have a brick red LifeProof case for the iPhone 5 and arm band accessory for 
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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread alia robinson
Yes you can I’m looking at mine now. 
Make sure this computer is in the popup, then tab over and make sure music is 
checked, then tab over some more and make sure songs is in the pop-up. works 
fine for me. 

Alia


 On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Jen and others,
  
 I just installed iTunes 12 and played around with it for maybe 10 minutes. 
 Without spending more time I would say you can’t see your entire list of 
 songs.

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Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Davy Cuppens
Sieghard 

What screenreader do you use to work with itunes or are you using a mac?
I heard that with windoweyes, there are problems with the latest updates.
Regards
Davy 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

Robert,

 

Your iPhone or iPad will show up as a button right after the series of radio 
buttons, i.e. Music, Movies etc. Once you get to the “More” radio button tab 
one more time and you are on the button for your device. If your device is 
called “Robert’s iPhone” then that is what the button will be called. Once you 
activate the button, a tab or 2 gets you into a new treeview with all your 
categories or whatever  you want to call them. Gone are the old radio buttons 
for Summary, Info, Music, Apps, Tones etc. All of these are now in that list 
view. If you want to manage your tones, just go to the first Tones entry in 
that treeview and then tab across and you’ll find everything else is about the 
same as far as the checkboxes for “Sync all Ringtones” or “Synce selected 
ringtones” and so on. Jaws announces the first item in that treeview which is 
“Summary” as “2 of 21” on my computer. Not sure what 1 of 21 is but you can’t 
go higher than Summary. Once you get past all the stuff (apps, music, movies 
etc.) you come to the “Info” item which used to be right next to Summary in 
iTunes 11. After that you find another set of many of the same things like 
Apps, Music, Movies and so on and these are referring to what is on your 
iPhone. If you select, for example, the second “Tones” item and then tab you 
will come across a bunch of read only items and eventually you’ll find a list 
of all the tones on your phone whereas the first Tones shows you all the Tones 
in your iTunes library with checkmarks for those which are synced to your 
phone. After all the items you will then find a list of your playlists which 
are synced to your device.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Where do I go to get to my device when I wish to sync new music, apps or tones 
to my device?

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:25 AM

  Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

   

  Hello Listers,

   

  OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it’s 
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list view 
with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the button 
by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there is an “All 
Artists” selection at the very top of the list and if you select that and then 
tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

   

  I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

   

  Songs

  Albums

  Artists

  Composers

  Genres

   

  I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by 
pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the list, 
these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were radio 
buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had to check 
the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and bingo, as soon 
as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and Album columns and 
I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just as before… brilliant!

   

  So, here again is what to look for:

   

  Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I 
always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press 
Control+F to jump to that search field.

  Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
“Search Options”, this is just like iTunes 11.

  Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked 
by pressing the spacebar.

  After the music radio button if you tab you get to “Movies”, “TV Shows” and 
then “More”. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
might not be there if you don’t enable them in Preferences.

  Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
etc.

  Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
then the 3 buttons are:

   

  My Music – this is your music library with all your ripped CD’s and purchased 
music

   

  Playlists – your Playlists

  iTunes Store – takes you to the iTunes Store

   

  Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select 
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is 
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list 

adding public holiday to calender

2014-10-19 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi all,

Am i dreaming or what, i thought there is a way to subscribe public holidays on 
to the calender app.
But, for some reason, i can't seems to able to do it, and, google search doen't 
give me the answer i want to.

I pretty much recall that i can do it quite easily on ios.

Can someone take me through the steps again, or, i'm just dreaming? :)

Thanks

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Re: adding public holiday to calender

2014-10-19 Thread Pete Nalda
Hi. I downloaded an app called USAHolidays for free that does this. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

 On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Am i dreaming or what, i thought there is a way to subscribe public holidays 
 on to the calender app.
 But, for some reason, i can't seems to able to do it, and, google search 
 doen't give me the answer i want to.
 
 I pretty much recall that i can do it quite easily on ios.
 
 Can someone take me through the steps again, or, i'm just dreaming? :)
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

2014-10-19 Thread Russ Kiehne
Will anyone be making a podcast on how to access it with various screen readers?

From: christopher hallsworth 
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:29 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

Yes, iTunes 12 is totally accessible, including the icons.

  On 18 Oct 2014, at 21:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi David,


  So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet 
upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? 


  Thanks:


  Eileen

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:


Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the 
display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. 
,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer 
anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more 
(podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, 
exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly 
underneath the bar with the play buttons. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:


  Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for 
those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists.

On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are 
used to.
Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist.
Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of 
things?

Richard


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Re: adding public holiday to calender

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I used to subscribe to an iCal calendar to get public holidays on my 
iPhone, but now when I double tap the Calendars button in the Calendar 
app, there's a calendar under the Google heading that is called 
something like Holidays in the US. I make sure this is selected, and I 
have the US holidays on my calendar.


Note I still use iCal calendars to get other events on my calendar, such 
as sporting events. Google will take you to all kinds of sources for 
different iCal calendars.


On 10/19/2014 08:26 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:

Hi all,

Am i dreaming or what, i thought there is a way to subscribe public holidays on 
to the calender app.
But, for some reason, i can't seems to able to do it, and, google search doen't 
give me the answer i want to.

I pretty much recall that i can do it quite easily on ios.

Can someone take me through the steps again, or, i'm just dreaming? :)

Thanks



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iTunes 12?

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
So far, I don't see where to check to see if there are any updates to my apps 
or how to sync apps, or, on second thought, should I just sync with summary 
checked in order to update everything at once?  Thanks.  I'm using JAWS 15 and 
Windows XP Pro.

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Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
So soon after release?  I'm still exploring it, and don't feel a need for a 
podcast.

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  Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar


  Will anyone be making a podcast on how to access it with various screen 
readers?

  From: christopher hallsworth 
  Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:29 PM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

  Yes, iTunes 12 is totally accessible, including the icons.

On 18 Oct 2014, at 21:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi David,


So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet 
upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? 


Thanks:


Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

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  Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the 
display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. 
,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer 
anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more 
(podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, 
exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly 
underneath the bar with the play buttons. 

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
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  Sent from my iPhone

  On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for 
those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists.

  On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

  I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are 
used to.
  Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist.
  Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of 
things?

  Richard


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RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Where did youeyes and it works fine.

Richard

hear there are problems with Window-Eyes?

I use Window-

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Sieghard 

 

What screenreader do you use to work with itunes or are you using a mac?

I heard that with windoweyes, there are problems with the latest updates.

Regards

Davy 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:21 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Robert,

 

Your iPhone or iPad will show up as a button right after the series of radio 
buttons, i.e. Music, Movies etc. Once you get to the “More” radio button tab 
one more time and you are on the button for your device. If your device is 
called “Robert’s iPhone” then that is what the button will be called. Once you 
activate the button, a tab or 2 gets you into a new treeview with all your 
categories or whatever  you want to call them. Gone are the old radio buttons 
for Summary, Info, Music, Apps, Tones etc. All of these are now in that list 
view. If you want to manage your tones, just go to the first Tones entry in 
that treeview and then tab across and you’ll find everything else is about the 
same as far as the checkboxes for “Sync all Ringtones” or “Synce selected 
ringtones” and so on. Jaws announces the first item in that treeview which is 
“Summary” as “2 of 21” on my computer. Not sure what 1 of 21 is but you can’t 
go higher than Summary. Once you get past all the stuff (apps, music, movies 
etc.) you come to the “Info” item which used to be right next to Summary in 
iTunes 11. After that you find another set of many of the same things like 
Apps, Music, Movies and so on and these are referring to what is on your 
iPhone. If you select, for example, the second “Tones” item and then tab you 
will come across a bunch of read only items and eventually you’ll find a list 
of all the tones on your phone whereas the first Tones shows you all the Tones 
in your iTunes library with checkmarks for those which are synced to your 
phone. After all the items you will then find a list of your playlists which 
are synced to your device.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Where do I go to get to my device when I wish to sync new music, apps or tones 
to my device?

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:25 AM

Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it’s 
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list view 
with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the button 
by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there is an “All 
Artists” selection at the very top of the list and if you select that and then 
tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by pressing 
enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the list, these 
were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were radio buttons. 
So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had to check the Songs 
radio button in order to enable the column browser and bingo, as soon as I did 
so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and Album columns and I can 
select and narrow my music down by any of these just as before… brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I always 
find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press Control+F to 
jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
“Search Options”, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked by 
pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to “Movies”, “TV Shows” and 
then “More”. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
might not be there if you don’t enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
then the 3 buttons are:

 

Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
This might help in my navigation.  Good reference.  Thanks.

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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:30 AM
  Subject: RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back


  Robert,

   

  If you connect  your iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch the button to go to your 
device will be just one tab over from the More radio button.

   

  One thing that has changed here is that there are no longer the radio buttons 
for Apps, Music, Tones etc. You now have a treeview with two sections. At the 
top you have Summary which gives you all the familiar information and where 
you can check for iOS updates, restore, backup and so on. For some reason Jaws 
announces this as 2 of 21, there doesn't appear to be a 1 of 21 at least 
not something you can go to.

  Then after that are things like Apps, Music, Movies and so on. These 
are like the radio buttons and if you want to sync Tones just arrow to Tones 
and then tab across to Synce all tones or Sync selected tones, make your 
selections and then go to File, Device and Sync.

  About item 11 of 21 in my treeview is Info which used to be right after the 
Summary radio button in iTunes 11. After that are again some of the same 
listings as further up in the treeview, things like Music, Movies, TV Shows, 
Tones and so on. If you go to one of these and tab you will find a list view 
and these are all the items from which ever item you are on which are synced to 
your device. At the bottom you find all your Playlists are listed by name.

   

  If you go to Music or Tones in that lower part of the treeview and then 
tab across you also find a button called Add To. If I am on Tones and 
activate it it opens a list with all my ringtones and I thought you could maybe 
add more tones to your phone right from there, but unless this is not 
accessible with a screenreader or I haven't figured it out yet, it doesn't seem 
to be possible.

   

  Once again this is all very nicely accessible and by now I think I already 
like iTunes 12 better than iTunes 11 and definitely better than iTunes 10 or 
what came before. 

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghardyou activatea lithe same

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:20 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

   

  Where do I go to get to my device when I wish to sync new music, apps or 
tones to my device?

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:25 AM

Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since 
it's getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list 
view with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the 
button by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there is 
an All Artists selection at the very top of the list and if you select that 
and then tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by 
pressing enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the list, 
these were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were radio 
buttons. So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had to check 
the Songs radio button in order to enable the column browser and bingo, as soon 
as I did so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and Album columns and 
I can select and narrow my music down by any of these just as before. brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I 
always find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press 
Control+F to jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
Search Options, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is 
checked by pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to Movies, TV Shows and 
then More. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
might not be there if you don't enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, 
Podcasts etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio 
buttons which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected 
Music, then the 3 buttons are:

 

  

RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar

2014-10-19 Thread Terrie Terlau
Can anyone point me to a list of all hot keys in iTunes? I still remain
baffled by it and would like to make it a friend or at least not a howling
teethgnashing monster (smile)!
Thank you.
Terrie Terlau
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar

Hi John,

I am not sure why you think these hot keys wouldn't be native to iTunes 12.
They do work perfectly well and in fact I miswrote earlier because I wrote
Alt+1, Aklt+2 etc. and it is of course Control+1, Control+2 and so on. These
worked in iTunes 11 (at least most of them) and they work even better in
iTunes 12. I am also using Jaws and Richard said he is using Window Eyes so
since they work both for me and for him they can't be Jaws or Window Eyes
specific hot keys.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar

As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though
their were a couple I didn't know about.

On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 OK.  I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum
again.
 I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot
 claimed that the library and such was under playlists.  It didn't make
 sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source.  Just another example
 of
 you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet.



 So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very
 different.

 I am using Windows 8.1.

 Here are some hot keys that might help:

 control+1 = Music

 Control+2 = Movies

 Control+3 = TV Shows

 Control+4 = Podcasts

 Control+5 = iTunes U

 Control+6 = Auydio Books

 Control+7 = Apps

 Control+8 = Tones

 Control+9 = iTunes Radio

 Control+j = View Options

 Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next

 D = Show Duplicate Items

 Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads



 You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what
 works
 best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc.

 I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible.



 Richard







 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Charles Rivard
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar



 As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes.


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 - Original Message -

 From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM

 Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar



 Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't
 understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio
 buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows.
 Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what
 happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also
 check
 with vo-space.



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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

 thrown in the trash!

 Then God gave me a new heart and life:

 His joy for my despairing tears!

 And now, every day:

 This I call to mind,

 and therefore I have hope:

 The steadfast love of the Lord

 never ceases;

 his mercies never come to an end;

 they are new every morning;

 great is your faithfulness.

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 On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 mailto:batsfly...@me.com  wrote:



 I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use
 tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes
 for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies,
etc.,
 like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad.
But
 the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me.



 Teresa

 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Yes, the buttons are accessible.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com

 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

 Sent from my iPhone


 On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi David,





 So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet
 upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you 

Re: Another iTunes 12 discovery

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
This is a great feature!!  Thanks for the tip.

Now, another question:  Where do I go to find if there are any updates to my 
apps?  So far, I haven't been able to find that important feature.

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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:34 AM
  Subject: Another iTunes 12 discovery


  Hekllo again,

   

  So, one other thing I discovered. You have these radio buttons for Music, 
Movies, tV Shows, More etc. If you go to more where you find a lot of the other 
stuff like Apps, Books, Tones and so on there is an Edit button. If you tab to 
it and activate it and then tab again, you will find checkboxes and the other 
items. If you check some of the checkboxes which are not checked (each checkbox 
for an item is before the item is announced) then the item will be listed as a 
radio button in that main view. For example, if you want Apps to be a radio 
button in the main icon list where you have Music, Movies and More, just 
activate the Edit button, then tab until you hear Apps. Now Shift+Tab once to 
the checkbox before Apps and check it. Now Apps will be in your main list.

  Similarly you can of course uncheck items you don't want and hide them. If 
you don't have TV Shows and it's in that series of radio buttons, then just go 
to More, tab to the Edit button and activate it. Now tab until you hear TV 
Shows, Shift+Tab once, uncheck the box and it will be gone.

   

  Also, as Christopher pointed out, the column browser shortcut key apparently 
still works, but I believe just as in iTunes 11 you have to select Songs 
otherwise the column browser won't work.

   

  OK, I now officially like iTunes 12.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   


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RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar

2014-10-19 Thread Jon C. Pierson
Hi,
I grabbed the below list of shortcut keys from the hotkeys section of iTunes
help (windows version).

Jon

Keyboard shortcuts

You can use keyboard shortcuts to quickly accomplish many tasks in iTunes.
To find the shortcuts for common commands, look in the iTunes menus, or use
the table below as a reference.

Many items in the iTunes window (for example, songs and column headings)
also have shortcut menus that let you do tasks quickly. To see a shortcut
menu,
right-click the item.

To turn on full keyboard navigation, choose Edit  Preferences, click
General, and select Enable full keyboard navigation.

Some screen readers override keyboard combinations built into iTunes; check
the screen reader documentation for instructions on customizing key
combinations.

Playback

table with 2 columns and 20 rows
Action

Shortcut

 
Play the currently selected song

Enter

 
Move forward or backward within a song

Control-Alt-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

 
Listen to the next or previous album in a list

Shift-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

 
Go to the next or previous song in a list

Left Arrow or Right Arrow (or click the Skip Forward or Skip Backward
controls in the upper-left corner of the iTunes window)

 
Go to the next or last chapter (if available)

Control-Shift-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

  
Action

Play the currently selected song

Move forward or backward within a song

Listen to the next or previous album in a list

Go to the next or previous song in a list

Go to the next or last chapter (if available)

Shortcut

Enter

Control-Alt-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

Shift-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

Left Arrow or Right Arrow (or click the Skip Forward or Skip Backward
controls in the upper-left corner of the iTunes window)

Control-Shift-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

Action

Shortcut
table end

Library and playlist

table with 2 columns and 20 rows
Action

Shortcut

 
Select or deselect all the songs in a list

Control-click the checkbox next to a song

 
Create a playlist from a selection of songs

Control-Shift-N

 
Create a new Smart Playlist

Control-Alt-N

 
Refresh the Radio list (when Radio is selected)

F5

 
Refresh a Genius Playlist (when the playlist is selected)

F5

  
Action

Select or deselect all the songs in a list

Create a playlist from a selection of songs

Create a new Smart Playlist

Refresh the Radio list (when Radio is selected)

Refresh a Genius Playlist (when the playlist is selected)

Shortcut

Control-click the checkbox next to a song

Control-Shift-N

Control-Alt-N

F5

F5

Action

Shortcut
table end

iTunes Store

table with 2 columns and 23 rows
Action

Shortcut

 
Go to the next page in the iTunes Store

Control-Right bracket ( ] )

 
Go to the previous page in the iTunes Store

Control-Left bracket ( [ )

 
Check for new podcast episodes (when Podcasts is selected, below Library)

F5

 
Initiate a search in the iTunes Store (from anywhere in iTunes)

Type in Search field and press Shift-Return

 
Open the Store menu

Alt-S

 
Check for app updates (when Apps is selected, below Library)

F5


Action

Go to the next page in the iTunes Store

Go to the previous page in the iTunes Store

Check for new podcast episodes (when Podcasts is selected, below Library)

Initiate a search in the iTunes Store (from anywhere in iTunes)

Open the Store menu

Check for app updates (when Apps is selected, below Library)

Shortcut

Control-Right bracket ( ] )

Control-Left bracket ( [ )

F5

Type in Search field and press Shift-Return

Alt-S

F5

Action

Shortcut
table end

File and window

table with 2 columns and 26 rows
Action

Shortcut

 
Expand or collapse all the triangles in the Radio's Stream list

Control-click a triangle

 
Shrink the iTunes window to show only the playback controls

Click the zoom control in the upper-left corner of the iTunes window

 
In the Get Info window, see the info for the next or previous song in the
list

Alt-N or Alt-P

 
Select the search field

Control-F

 
See more options when a visual effect is showing

Press ?, then press the indicated key to use an option (not all visual
effects support this)

 
Choose artwork for the selected video

While the video is playing, Control-click the movie, and choose Set Poster
Frame

 
Stream audio file at a specific URL to iTunes

Control-U

  
Action

Expand or collapse all the triangles in the Radio's Stream list

Shrink the iTunes window to show only the playback controls

In the Get Info window, see the info for the next or previous song in the
list

Select the search field

See more options when a visual effect is showing

Choose artwork for the selected video

Stream audio file at a specific URL to iTunes

Shortcut

Control-click a triangle

Click the zoom control in the upper-left corner of the iTunes window

Alt-N or Alt-P

Control-F

Press ?, then press the indicated key to use an option (not all visual
effects support this)

While the video is playing, Control-click 

iTunes 12 EQ?

2014-10-19 Thread Joseph
Hello,
Is the EQ gone in iTunes 12? If not, would someone please explain how to locate 
it using VO?
TIA.

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bluetooth keyboard stopped working, please help

2014-10-19 Thread Jed Barton

Hey guys,
Alright, i ahve a very concerning problem here.  My bluetooth keyboard 
just quit, and i do not know how to diagnose the issue.  it is saying 
it's connecte via bluetooth, but when i press my arrow keys it says nothing.
I press up, down, left right, nothing.  Any ideas?  This makes no sense. 
 it was working great until friday  I turned it on, and flipped the 
switch on the keyboard.  This is the strange thing it is doing?
I'll lock the screen, then press the right arrow.  The ipad makes a 
click and it says phase time, 1 missed phase time call.  Then it goes 
silent.  When i press the arrow keys, it says nothing.  This just 
doesn't make any sense, and i'm kind of concerned.  Any thoughts?


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more on this bluetooth keyboard issue and my ipad

2014-10-19 Thread Jed Barton

Hey guys,
Trying to diagnose this problem.  When i go in to bluetooth, it sounds 
like it's saying zach keys folio connected.
It just doesn't make sense why it would quit responding when i press the 
arrow keys.
What's even stranger, something ahs to be working, because the volume 
controls on the keyboard work.  Why would the arrow keys just quit. 
Like i said i go up, down, left right, and nothing.


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apple pushing through mandatory ios 8 updates?

2014-10-19 Thread David Gross
I am the poster who started this thread.

I owe a apology, or adjusted update to my original question.

 

My wife tells me this morning that her ios 8 upload  occurred because her
phone a 5s froze, and based upon previous apple advice, she simultaneously
pushed the home key and the button on the upper right of her phone. (sorry,
I don't know the proper term for hat button)

When  the phone restarted, she said the update to ios 8 was initiated.

 

So what exactly did she do to create this circumstance?

 

David Gross

 

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Re: Another iTunes 12 discovery

2014-10-19 Thread Colin Matthews
Hi!
OK having a play using Mac shortcuts if I press command7 that takes me straight 
to Apps and either using VO and arrows or tab I can go through the different 
options!
I also noticed that the button next to the Music button changes depending on 
which option you pick so if choosing command+8 for tones that will be the 
button next to the music one!
And when I picked the Apps its button also said I've got one update so just 
tabbed to the update all button and hit it!
And then just hit that music button to get back there!
HTH Colin

On 19 Oct 2014, at 16:22, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

 This is a great feature!!  Thanks for the tip.
  
 Now, another question:  Where do I go to find if there are any updates to my 
 apps?  So far, I haven't been able to find that important feature.
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Sieghard Weitzel
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:34 AM
 Subject: Another iTunes 12 discovery
 
 Hekllo again,
  
 So, one other thing I discovered. You have these radio buttons for Music, 
 Movies, tV Shows, More etc. If you go to more where you find a lot of the 
 other stuff like Apps, Books, Tones and so on there is an Edit button. If you 
 tab to it and activate it and then tab again, you will find checkboxes and 
 the other items. If you check some of the checkboxes which are not checked 
 (each checkbox for an item is before the item is announced) then the item 
 will be listed as a radio button in that main view. For example, if you want 
 Apps to be a radio button in the main icon list where you have Music, Movies 
 and More, just activate the Edit button, then tab until you hear Apps. Now 
 Shift+Tab once to the checkbox before Apps and check it. Now Apps will be in 
 your main list.
 Similarly you can of course uncheck items you don't want and hide them. If 
 you don't have TV Shows and it's in that series of radio buttons, then just 
 go to More, tab to the Edit button and activate it. Now tab until you hear TV 
 Shows, Shift+Tab once, uncheck the box and it will be gone.
  
 Also, as Christopher pointed out, the column browser shortcut key apparently 
 still works, but I believe just as in iTunes 11 you have to select Songs 
 otherwise the column browser won't work.
  
 OK, I now officially like iTunes 12.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 
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updating apps in iTunes 12 found

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
To check for updates of your apps, if you are using Windows XP Pro and JAWS, 
and this will probably also work with other screen readers because I think it 
is an iTunes command and not a screen reader command, press control along with 
the number 7.  It takes you to apps.  Now tab to, and check, the option you 
want.

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a thought on Jonathan Mosen's I O S 8 book

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
This is not at all a criticism, but a curiosity:  The book was published when 
8.0 came out.  I haven't bought it yet, but probably will.  Here's my question:

As the book came out along with 8.0, will there be, or is it not necessary for 
there to be, an updated version after 8.1 and later updates to the operating 
system to keep the information current?

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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I am using windows 7.  
Jen  

From: Cheryl Homiak 
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that’s a 
wrong assumption because I don’t think you specified this. 

Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do cmd-1 
to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is okay. 

Also make sure the “my Music” radio button is selected. This is another set of 
radio buttons.

You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums is 
what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the popup. 
However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don’t vo-arrow down. Instead 
just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up once if it says 
something like “row 2 albums” when you open the popup. It seems that when I 
open the popup it always shows “row 2 albums” for me no matter what the popup 
is on before I open it but I don’Tt know if this is a default or has something 
to do with how I have it set up. Then don’t do vo-space to close the popup; hit 
return instead. At least this is what works for me. I think this works whether 
or not you are having the column browser show or not. Sometimes you have to 
vo-right-arrow through the window a couple of times to get your bearings of 
where things are. If you can’t find something I’m talking about, post again and 
I’l give it another try. If I have something in my view or sorting different 
from yours, it could cause confusion in trying to explain it. You should be 
able to see the table with all your songs

 


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  On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi,  
  So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a list 
of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there.  
  My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums.  
  I’m using windows and jaws 12.0.  
  Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in the 
side bar?  
  Thanks for any help.  
  Jen  

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iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Greetings,

Because I find it helpful for myself to have the list of shortcuts in a
handy file, I copied everything from the iTunes 12 help menu on keyboard
shortcuts and formatted each section into tables and saved it as an RTF
since that is a universal format that keeps things like tables in tact.

I put it on my DropBox and am copying the link below.  The only thing that
needs correcting I'm sure, is that the command for Switch between viewing
visual effects using the entire screen or in the iTunes window (when
visualizer is on), even though this is a Windows system, the shortcut key
says command+f and since there isn't a command key on a Windows keyboard,
I suspect that should be either control, alt, or Windows, but I am not sure
which it should be  so I left it as Apple listed it.

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iTunes%2012%20shortcuts%20for%2
0common%20commands.rtf

 

HTH,

Richard

 

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RE: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu

2014-10-19 Thread Terrie Terlau
Richard,

Thank you! This is going to help me a great deal, and it will help
others on this list who, like me, have not yet made friends with iTunes.
Now, however, I have a way to do so. I appreciate the time and work involved
in putting this list together and I appreciate tyour kindness in sharing.

Smiles,

Terrie Terlau

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:43 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu

 

Greetings,

Because I find it helpful for myself to have the list of shortcuts in a
handy file, I copied everything from the iTunes 12 help menu on keyboard
shortcuts and formatted each section into tables and saved it as an RTF
since that is a universal format that keeps things like tables in tact.

I put it on my DropBox and am copying the link below.  The only thing that
needs correcting I'm sure, is that the command for Switch between viewing
visual effects using the entire screen or in the iTunes window (when
visualizer is on), even though this is a Windows system, the shortcut key
says command+f and since there isn't a command key on a Windows keyboard,
I suspect that should be either control, alt, or Windows, but I am not sure
which it should be  so I left it as Apple listed it.

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iTunes%2012%20shortcuts%20for%2
0common%20commands.rtf

 

HTH,

Richard

 

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how to reinstall a purchased app

2014-10-19 Thread martin nelson
Hello: having problems with the KNFB Reader, one of the suggestions was to 
remove it and then install it again. How would one do this? I went into the 
purchased apps that appears at the top of the upgrade screen in the appstore 
but found no apps there. If I were to unstall the app and went to download 
again from the appstore where you search for an app, would I be charged again?
Thank you in advance for any help received.
Martin Nelson 

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Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Jen Colley
I found a list of options but tabbing around in windows after I’ve selected an 
option doesn’t display all my songs in a list which is what I want to do.  
It just keeps tabbing me through the options of sort by title artist etc.  
I am using jaws 12 and windows 7 so don’t know if this makes a difference.  
Jen  

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it’s 
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list view 
with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the button 
by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there is an “All 
Artists” selection at the very top of the list and if you select that and then 
tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by pressing 
enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the list, these 
were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were radio buttons. 
So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had to check the Songs 
radio button in order to enable the column browser and bingo, as soon as I did 
so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and Album columns and I can 
select and narrow my music down by any of these just as before… brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I always 
find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press Control+F to 
jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
“Search Options”, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked by 
pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to “Movies”, “TV Shows” and 
then “More”. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
might not be there if you don’t enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
then the 3 buttons are:

 

My Music – this is your music library with all your ripped CD’s and purchased 
music

 

Playlists – your Playlists

iTunes Store – takes you to the iTunes Store

 

Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select 
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is 
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you 
are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to “Songs” and press 
enter.

Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist and 
then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.

 

One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is 
available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where it is not 
yet available I don’t know if it is under “More” or if it is another main radio 
button like Music, Movies, TV Shows etc.

 

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

 

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RE: how to reinstall a purchased app

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
When you search in the app store for any app you have purchased with that
Apple ID, instead of a buy or price button, you will find a download button,
so no, no charge for downloading a previously purchased app.

 

Richard

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how to reinstall a purchased app

 

Hello: having problems with the KNFB Reader, one of the suggestions was to
remove it and then install it again. How would one do this? I went into the
purchased apps that appears at the top of the upgrade screen in the appstore
but found no apps there. If I were to unstall the app and went to download
again from the appstore where you search for an app, would I be charged
again?

Thank you in advance for any help received.

Martin Nelson 

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RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Hi,

Hit control+1 to make sure you are in music, then tab until you get to a button 
that says albums, or songs, or artists, depending on what view you were last in.

Tab once more and you will be in a list box.

Arrow down to songs and hit enter.

Now, that button will switch to songs and if you tab once you should be in the 
list of songs.

 

If it is only showing your recent additions, you may have to do some fiddling 
with that Songs Button.

I’m not completely sure with that one yet.

 

Richard

 

 

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Jen Colley
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

I found a list of options but tabbing around in windows after I’ve selected an 
option doesn’t display all my songs in a list which is what I want to do.  

It just keeps tabbing me through the options of sort by title artist etc.  

I am using jaws 12 and windows 7 so don’t know if this makes a difference.  

Jen  

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:25 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it’s 
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list view 
with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the button 
by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there is an “All 
Artists” selection at the very top of the list and if you select that and then 
tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by pressing 
enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the list, these 
were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were radio buttons. 
So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had to check the Songs 
radio button in order to enable the column browser and bingo, as soon as I did 
so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and Album columns and I can 
select and narrow my music down by any of these just as before… brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I always 
find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press Control+F to 
jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
“Search Options”, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked by 
pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to “Movies”, “TV Shows” and 
then “More”. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
might not be there if you don’t enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
then the 3 buttons are:

 

My Music – this is your music library with all your ripped CD’s and purchased 
music

 

Playlists – your Playlists

iTunes Store – takes you to the iTunes Store

 

Tab once more and you come to a button which is the button where you select 
from the options I mentioned above and this determines how your music is 
displayed. Activate the button and tab once into the list of options. If you 
are like me and you like the column browser, just arrow to “Songs” and press 
enter.

Now if you tab you are in your column browser, first is Genre, then Artist and 
then Album and tab once more to get into your list view of songs.

 

One thing I should mention is that for those of you where iTunes Radio is 
available this might show up somewhere but since I am in Canada where it is not 
yet available I don’t know if it is under “More” or if it is another main radio 
button like Music, Movies, TV Shows etc.

 

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all,

been playing around with the new iTunes, and had a question. I used to love the 
side bar but am getting used to the new layout. I was curious to see if I could 
view iTunes on the mac similar to how I view it on the iPhone as I have a ton 
of music and am playing around with the artists view and albums. One thing I 
noticed and I am sure I am doing something wrong as I am viewing an artist then 
album then track name and if I want to play it I hit return yet some other song 
in my library plays, yet if I use the contextual menu VO shift M the option to 
play the track I am focused on pops up and I hit return on play. Is there a way 
to do this where I might not have VO focused on the right area so I can play 
the track just by hitting return and not using the contextual menu. One thing I 
have noticed is VO j and the table jumping around in album view does not work 
as well and you do have to navigate with VO and do a fair amount of interaction 
to get to the albums under the artist, just a thought. Thanks,
On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 I am using windows 7. 
 Jen 
  
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar
  
 I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that's a 
 wrong assumption because I don't think you specified this.
  
 Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do cmd-1 
 to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is okay.
  
 Also make sure the my Music radio button is selected. This is another set 
 of radio buttons.
  
 You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums is 
 what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the popup. 
 However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don't vo-arrow down. 
 Instead just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up once if it 
 says something like row 2 albums when you open the popup. It seems that 
 when I open the popup it always shows row 2 albums for me no matter what 
 the popup is on before I open it but I don'Tt know if this is a default or 
 has something to do with how I have it set up. Then don't do vo-space to 
 close the popup; hit return instead. At least this is what works for me. I 
 think this works whether or not you are having the column browser show or 
 not. Sometimes you have to vo-right-arrow through the window a couple of 
 times to get your bearings of where things are. If you can't find something 
 I'm talking about, post again and I'l give it another try. If I have 
 something in my view or sorting different from yours, it could cause 
 confusion in trying to explain it. You should be able to see the table with 
 all your songs
  
 
  
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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
  
  
  
  
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
 Hi, 
 So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a list 
 of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there. 
 My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums. 
 I'm using windows and jaws 12.0. 
 Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in the 
 side bar? 
 Thanks for any help. 
 Jen 
  
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RE: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks Terrie,  

I hope you and others do find it useful.

Itunes 12 in some ways is better than 11.

I was able to get to editing my Podcast download options much more easily in
this version.

 

I just replaced the previous file with each heading having the heading
attribute in case other screen reader support navigating by headings.

 

I hope the link didn't change but just in case, here it is again:

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iTunes%2012%20shortcuts%20for%2
0common%20commands.rtf

 

Richard

 

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Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu

 

Richard,

Thank you! This is going to help me a great deal, and it will help
others on this list who, like me, have not yet made friends with iTunes.
Now, however, I have a way to do so. I appreciate the time and work involved
in putting this list together and I appreciate tyour kindness in sharing.

Smiles,

Terrie Terlau

 

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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:43 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu

 

Greetings,

Because I find it helpful for myself to have the list of shortcuts in a
handy file, I copied everything from the iTunes 12 help menu on keyboard
shortcuts and formatted each section into tables and saved it as an RTF
since that is a universal format that keeps things like tables in tact.

I put it on my DropBox and am copying the link below.  The only thing that
needs correcting I'm sure, is that the command for Switch between viewing
visual effects using the entire screen or in the iTunes window (when
visualizer is on), even though this is a Windows system, the shortcut key
says command+f and since there isn't a command key on a Windows keyboard,
I suspect that should be either control, alt, or Windows, but I am not sure
which it should be  so I left it as Apple listed it.

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iTunes%2012%20shortcuts%20for%2
0common%20commands.rtf

 

HTH,

Richard

 

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Re: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu

2014-10-19 Thread Joseph
Hello List,
Hey Richard, I really appreciate your putting this list together. it will 
really be handy to have. And thanks for doing all the work. Of course help is 
always available to use but still, a big thanks.
 Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 Because I find it helpful for myself to have the list of shortcuts in a handy 
 file, I copied everything from the iTunes 12 help menu on keyboard shortcuts 
 and formatted each section into tables and saved it as an RTF since that is a 
 universal format that keeps things like tables in tact.
 I put it on my DropBox and am copying the link below.  The only thing that 
 needs correcting I'm sure, is that the command for Switch between viewing 
 visual effects using the entire screen or in the iTunes window (when 
 visualizer is on), even though this is a Windows system, the shortcut key 
 says command+f and since there isn't a command key on a Windows keyboard, I 
 suspect that should be either control, alt, or Windows, but I am not sure 
 which it should be  so I left it as Apple listed it.
  
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iTunes%2012%20shortcuts%20for%20common%20commands.rtf
  
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iTunes%2012%20shortcuts%20for%20common%20commands.rtf
  
 HTH,
 Richard
  
 
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library of congress books on the iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
I'm going to be away for a few days, but will not leave without my iPhone 5 
using I O S 8.0.2.  I have some books, unzipped, on my PC and want to put them 
onto my iPhone.  What is the easiest way to do this using iTunes 12?  Thanks.

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Re: how to reinstall a purchased app

2014-10-19 Thread Christine Szostak
Nope, no charge. Just go to search and do a search for KNFBReader. It should be 
the first and will say download. It should automatically start to download once 
you click on it and you will not be recharged.
Have a great afternoon!
Chris
  - Original Message - 
  From: martin nelson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:04 PM
  Subject: how to reinstall a purchased app


  Hello: having problems with the KNFB Reader, one of the suggestions was to 
remove it and then install it again. How would one do this? I went into the 
purchased apps that appears at the top of the upgrade screen in the appstore 
but found no apps there. If I were to unstall the app and went to download 
again from the appstore where you search for an app, would I be charged again?
  Thank you in advance for any help received.
  Martin Nelson 

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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Sorry. I think it would be really helpful if people would put in the subject 
line which iTunes they are using: Windows or Mac. A lot of the general ideas 
are the same but the way to do things is somewhat different.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 I am using windows 7. 
 Jen 
  
 From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar
  
 I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that’s a 
 wrong assumption because I don’t think you specified this.
  
 Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do cmd-1 
 to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is okay.
  
 Also make sure the “my Music” radio button is selected. This is another set 
 of radio buttons.
  
 You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums is 
 what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the popup. 
 However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don’t vo-arrow down. 
 Instead just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up once if it 
 says something like “row 2 albums” when you open the popup. It seems that 
 when I open the popup it always shows “row 2 albums” for me no matter what 
 the popup is on before I open it but I don’Tt know if this is a default or 
 has something to do with how I have it set up. Then don’t do vo-space to 
 close the popup; hit return instead. At least this is what works for me. I 
 think this works whether or not you are having the column browser show or 
 not. Sometimes you have to vo-right-arrow through the window a couple of 
 times to get your bearings of where things are. If you can’t find something 
 I’m talking about, post again and I’l give it another try. If I have 
 something in my view or sorting different from yours, it could cause 
 confusion in trying to explain it. You should be able to see the table with 
 all your songs
  
 
  
 --
 Cheryl
  
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
  
  
  
  
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com 
 mailto:jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
 Hi, 
 So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a list 
 of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there. 
 My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums. 
 I’m using windows and jaws 12.0. 
 Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in the 
 side bar? 
 Thanks for any help. 
 Jen 
  
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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Cherly just assume we are all talking about the latest release
On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 Sorry. I think it would be really helpful if people would put in the subject 
 line which iTunes they are using: Windows or Mac. A lot of the general ideas 
 are the same but the way to do things is somewhat different.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 I am using windows 7. 
 Jen 
  
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar
  
 I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that's a 
 wrong assumption because I don't think you specified this.
  
 Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do 
 cmd-1 to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is 
 okay.
  
 Also make sure the my Music radio button is selected. This is another set 
 of radio buttons.
  
 You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums is 
 what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the popup. 
 However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don't vo-arrow down. 
 Instead just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up once if it 
 says something like row 2 albums when you open the popup. It seems that 
 when I open the popup it always shows row 2 albums for me no matter what 
 the popup is on before I open it but I don'Tt know if this is a default or 
 has something to do with how I have it set up. Then don't do vo-space to 
 close the popup; hit return instead. At least this is what works for me. I 
 think this works whether or not you are having the column browser show or 
 not. Sometimes you have to vo-right-arrow through the window a couple of 
 times to get your bearings of where things are. If you can't find something 
 I'm talking about, post again and I'l give it another try. If I have 
 something in my view or sorting different from yours, it could cause 
 confusion in trying to explain it. You should be able to see the table with 
 all your songs
  
 
  
 --
 Cheryl
  
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
  
  
  
  
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
 Hi, 
 So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a list 
 of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there. 
 My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums. 
 I'm using windows and jaws 12.0. 
 Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in the 
 side bar? 
 Thanks for any help. 
 Jen 
  
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learning handwriting

2014-10-19 Thread Dean Martineau
I am familiar with the excellent app that helps you figure out how to
handwrite on the phone.  I'm wondering if there is a list of the
descriptions of letters and symbols.  As I recall, the app gave them to you
one at a time, but I would like a list to refer to if one exists.



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RE: library of congress books on the iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
The easiest way is to down load them again with the BARd app right onto your
phone.

I'm assuming here that you are using the BARD app for these books.

 

I just tried to find the old file share option under apps and didn't find
it.

 

Maybe someone else has, but this looks problematic without using the app
itself on the phone.

 

I hope you find a workable solution.

 

Richard

 

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Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:36 AM
To: visually impaired phone group
Subject: library of congress books on the iPhone

 

I'm going to be away for a few days, but will not leave without my iPhone 5
using I O S 8.0.2.  I have some books, unzipped, on my PC and want to put
them onto my iPhone.  What is the easiest way to do this using iTunes 12?
Thanks.


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RE: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
She was talking about whether you are using the latest version on a Windows
computer or a Mac computer.

I think she is making a good point.

 

I find the explanations for Mac users not very helpful.  I'm sure the Mac
users find the explanations for Windows users equally unhelpful.

 

I'll try to do this if I start another thread about iTunes.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

 

Cherly just assume we are all talking about the latest release

On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com
mailto:cah4...@icloud.com  wrote:





Sorry. I think it would be really helpful if people would put in the subject
line which iTunes they are using: Windows or Mac. A lot of the general ideas
are the same but the way to do things is somewhat different.

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com
mailto:jencol...@hotmail.com  wrote:

 

Hi,  

I am using windows 7.  

Jen  

 

From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com  

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

 

I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that's a
wrong assumption because I don't think you specified this. 

 

Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do
cmd-1 to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is
okay. 

 

Also make sure the my Music radio button is selected. This is another set
of radio buttons.

 

You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums is
what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the popup.
However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don't vo-arrow down.
Instead just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up once if it
says something like row 2 albums when you open the popup. It seems that
when I open the popup it always shows row 2 albums for me no matter what
the popup is on before I open it but I don'Tt know if this is a default or
has something to do with how I have it set up. Then don't do vo-space to
close the popup; hit return instead. At least this is what works for me. I
think this works whether or not you are having the column browser show or
not. Sometimes you have to vo-right-arrow through the window a couple of
times to get your bearings of where things are. If you can't find something
I'm talking about, post again and I'l give it another try. If I have
something in my view or sorting different from yours, it could cause
confusion in trying to explain it. You should be able to see the table with
all your songs

 

 

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com
mailto:jencol...@hotmail.com  wrote:

 

Hi,  

So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a list
of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there.  

My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums.  

I'm using windows and jaws 12.0.  

Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in the
side bar?  

Thanks for any help.  

Jen  

 

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to Jed bluetooth kb

2014-10-19 Thread Ann Chiappetta
Hi Jed,

Not sure if this will work with your kb, as I have a Logitech M1,  and not
sure if yours has the same toggle commands.

Try pressing the left and right arrow keys together to toggle quick nav on
and off.  I also had to tweak my kb settings and add an extra  kb in kb
settings on my I pad. Now I have to toggle the quick nav on and off
depending on whether or not I'm writing or just tabbing through a page.
Hopefully this bug will be fixed soon.

 

Annie

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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, the latest release. But instructions for Windows iTunes and Mac iTunes are 
not synonomous.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Cherly just assume we are all talking about the latest release
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com 
 mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Sorry. I think it would be really helpful if people would put in the subject 
 line which iTunes they are using: Windows or Mac. A lot of the general ideas 
 are the same but the way to do things is somewhat different.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com 
 mailto:jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 I am using windows 7. 
 Jen 
  
 From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar
  
 I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that's a 
 wrong assumption because I don't think you specified this.
  
 Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do 
 cmd-1 to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is 
 okay.
  
 Also make sure the my Music radio button is selected. This is another set 
 of radio buttons.
  
 You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums 
 is what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the 
 popup. However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don't vo-arrow 
 down. Instead just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up once 
 if it says something like row 2 albums when you open the popup. It seems 
 that when I open the popup it always shows row 2 albums for me no matter 
 what the popup is on before I open it but I don'Tt know if this is a 
 default or has something to do with how I have it set up. Then don't do 
 vo-space to close the popup; hit return instead. At least this is what 
 works for me. I think this works whether or not you are having the column 
 browser show or not. Sometimes you have to vo-right-arrow through the 
 window a couple of times to get your bearings of where things are. If you 
 can't find something I'm talking about, post again and I'l give it another 
 try. If I have something in my view or sorting different from yours, it 
 could cause confusion in trying to explain it. You should be able to see 
 the table with all your songs
  
 
  
 --
 Cheryl
  
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
  
  
  
  
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com 
 mailto:jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
 Hi, 
 So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a 
 list of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there. 
 My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums. 
 I'm using windows and jaws 12.0. 
 Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in the 
 side bar? 
 Thanks for any help. 
 Jen 
  
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Re: learning handwriting

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh, that would be cool! Let me know if you find it. Something I could print out 
in braille and refer to!

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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 I am familiar with the excellent app that helps you figure out how to
 handwrite on the phone.  I'm wondering if there is a list of the
 descriptions of letters and symbols.  As I recall, the app gave them to you
 one at a time, but I would like a list to refer to if one exists.
 
 
 
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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Brian Fischler
My bad I see your point I was referring to the mac. 
On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 Yes, the latest release. But instructions for Windows iTunes and Mac iTunes 
 are not synonomous.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Cherly just assume we are all talking about the latest release
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Sorry. I think it would be really helpful if people would put in the 
 subject line which iTunes they are using: Windows or Mac. A lot of the 
 general ideas are the same but the way to do things is somewhat different.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 I am using windows 7. 
 Jen 
  
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar
  
 I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that's a 
 wrong assumption because I don't think you specified this.
  
 Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do 
 cmd-1 to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is 
 okay.
  
 Also make sure the my Music radio button is selected. This is another 
 set of radio buttons.
  
 You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums 
 is what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the 
 popup. However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don't vo-arrow 
 down. Instead just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up 
 once if it says something like row 2 albums when you open the popup. It 
 seems that when I open the popup it always shows row 2 albums for me no 
 matter what the popup is on before I open it but I don'Tt know if this is 
 a default or has something to do with how I have it set up. Then don't do 
 vo-space to close the popup; hit return instead. At least this is what 
 works for me. I think this works whether or not you are having the column 
 browser show or not. Sometimes you have to vo-right-arrow through the 
 window a couple of times to get your bearings of where things are. If you 
 can't find something I'm talking about, post again and I'l give it another 
 try. If I have something in my view or sorting different from yours, it 
 could cause confusion in trying to explain it. You should be able to see 
 the table with all your songs
  
 
  
 --
 Cheryl
  
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
  
  
  
  
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
 Hi, 
 So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a 
 list of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there. 
 My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums. 
 I'm using windows and jaws 12.0. 
 Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in the 
 side bar? 
 Thanks for any help. 
 Jen 
  
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Re: learning handwriting

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard

Best way I know of would be to use braille to make a hard copy.

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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:07 PM
Subject: learning handwriting


I am familiar with the excellent app that helps you figure out how to
handwrite on the phone.  I'm wondering if there is a list of the
descriptions of letters and symbols.  As I recall, the app gave them to you
one at a time, but I would like a list to refer to if one exists.



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assumptions? No way! - Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
I never assume.  I always try to make my requests clear when mentioning what I 
am using and what I am looking for.  I do not assume.  It is up to the author 
to be specific, not the reader to assume.

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  From: Brian Fischler 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar


  Cherly just assume we are all talking about the latest release

  On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:


Sorry. I think it would be really helpful if people would put in the 
subject line which iTunes they are using: Windows or Mac. A lot of the general 
ideas are the same but the way to do things is somewhat different.


-- 
Cheryl


I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)








  On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:


  Hi,  
  I am using windows 7.  
  Jen  

  From: Cheryl Homiak 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

  I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that's 
a wrong assumption because I don't think you specified this. 

  Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do 
cmd-1 to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is 
okay. 

  Also make sure the my Music radio button is selected. This is another 
set of radio buttons.

  You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums 
is what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the popup. 
However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don't vo-arrow down. Instead 
just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up once if it says 
something like row 2 albums when you open the popup. It seems that when I 
open the popup it always shows row 2 albums for me no matter what the popup 
is on before I open it but I don'Tt know if this is a default or has something 
to do with how I have it set up. Then don't do vo-space to close the popup; hit 
return instead. At least this is what works for me. I think this works whether 
or not you are having the column browser show or not. Sometimes you have to 
vo-right-arrow through the window a couple of times to get your bearings of 
where things are. If you can't find something I'm talking about, post again and 
I'l give it another try. If I have something in my view or sorting different 
from yours, it could cause confusion in trying to explain it. You should be 
able to see the table with all your songs




  -- 
  Cheryl

  I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
  I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
  thrown in the trash!
  Then God gave me a new heart and life:
  His joy for my despairing tears!
  And now, every day:
  This I call to mind,
  and therefore I have hope:
  The steadfast love of the Lord
  never ceases;
  his mercies never come to an end;
  they are new every morning;
  great is your faithfulness.
  (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,  
So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a 
list of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there.  
My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums.  
I'm using windows and jaws 12.0.  
Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in 
the side bar?  
Thanks for any help.  
Jen  

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Re: learning handwriting

2014-10-19 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Dean,
Are you thinking of ,
DoItWrite for iPhone.
I checked the below web page and there is no page that contains the text 
used to describe the letters.

It costs,
$1.99 USD
Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters, and numbers for use with 
iOS 7's VoiceOver handwriting feature!


This app is primarily intended for the blind or visually impaired, teachers 
or instructors of same, and other users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader.


Many blind or visually impaired people are not familiar with the shapes of 
printed letters or numbers. DoItWrite teaches you how to draw them in a 
simple way that has the best chance of being correctly recognized by 
VoiceOver, even if you have never learned the shapes of the characters 
previously. Once you get them down, practice your speed and accuracy with a 
fun game to blast characters as they tumble down the screen!

.Learn how to activate the VoiceOver handwriting feature in iOS 7
.Learn how to draw lowercase and uppercase letters, as well as numbers in a 
simple and accurate way.
.Practice your newly acquired skills by blasting letters and numbers as 
they tumble down the screen.
.Use the app to improve your onscreen typing skills by using the keyboard 
during game play.

.Automatic feedback and coach via audio queues and speech output.
.DoItWrite automatically detects when VoiceOver is not running, and permits 
the tutorial to be browsed with the onscreen keyboard. Great for sighted 
teachers and tutors!

.Share your game scores with others.
.Many ways to customize your  learning experience.
.Requires iOS 7
http://dracoent.com/Iphone/DoItWrite


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App Store continually crashing with iPad mini

2014-10-19 Thread Graham Roby
Hi,
I have just purchased a new iPad Mini with retina display. when I search for an 
app in the Apple App Store the app keeps crashing. I am running iOS 7 .11.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Kind regards

Graham 

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Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation

2014-10-19 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
I got the app other day as well. It's not going off for me right now. I'll have 
to check to see why. It was before so I don't know what happened. I did set my 
schedule for 6 AM to 10 PM each day.

Rebecca and Zeb
rilni...@gmail.com
Sent from my iphone 

On Oct 14, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net wrote:

Hi
 
Like you, I also bought the app yesterday.  Some interesting observations for 
me was the fact that you have to choose between voice and audio signal.  Both 
can not happen, but not a stopper for me though.  What I would have liked more 
is the fact that the audio signal chosen, would indicate the real hour, e.g. 
striking 8 times for 8 o'clock.  This does not happen though, so if one were to 
choose only the audio signal for the hourly anouncement, you would not really 
know what the time is, unless you had the voice option set up for any other 
anouncements, like the half hour and so on.  Another interesting thing is that, 
if I set it up to go to sleep at 8 o'clock at night, it will still anounce the 
half past 8 time slot, after which it will go to sleep.  It's also interesting 
that the clock control is a different voice from the one you can choose to 
anounce the hour.  I have chosen the male voice, and that particular one only 
works on the options you choose to let him speak, but not in the clock control 
option where you can actually hear the time.  It still is a nice app, in my 
opinion, especially as one can set the times for the clock to actually work, 
and also can silence it with the do-not-disturb option under settings.
 
Regards
 
Jan Kleinhans
- Original Message -
From: Raul A. Gallegos
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation

I just purchased qoo. Yes the app is free but for 1.99 you get more sounds and 
no ads. The link follows. 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ckrono.qoo-cuckoo-on-your/id728515737?mt=8
 On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Have you tried Qoo which is free and works quite well at least on my end. The 
 app is easy to use, all controls speak no problem with VoiceOver and there 
 are different sound themes as well as two voices to choose from. That's q o o 
 not c or k o o.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 13/10/2014 15:14, Paula Mack wrote:
 I want to apologize for steering anyone wrong with my recommendation of the 
 timely  app.
 As I mentioned in my previous message, I was very upset about chime no 
 longer being in the App Store. It seemed at first, as if timely would solve 
 the problem. However, it doesn't seem to maintain the settings. I have 
 received a refund and I am going to try to get chime from my computer.
 I hope that other people can do the same. and the iTunes will let us all 
 restore it. If not, maybe someone else will have better luck at finding a 
 substitute than I did. I tried a  few and none of them were good.
 
 Regards,
 Paula Mack
 
 
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RE: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
The thing that disappointed me was that it said it had the Big Ben chime.

However, if you choose that, you get a single gong at the quarter, half and 
three quarters passed the hour, or the entire chime sequence with a single gong 
on the hour.  So, I guess it is always one o’clock with this app.

It is misleading to indicate you have the Big Ben chime, when in every other 
app and with any clock that has the chime, you get the appropriate portion of 
the app for each part of the hour and the gongs strike one for each hour on the 
hour with the entire melody.

 

I requested and received a refund from the app store.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Ilniski
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation

 

I got the app other day as well. It's not going off for me right now. I'll have 
to check to see why. It was before so I don't know what happened. I did set my 
schedule for 6 AM to 10 PM each day.

Rebecca and Zeb

rilni...@gmail.com mailto:rilni...@gmail.com 

Sent from my iphone 


On Oct 14, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net 
mailto:jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net  wrote:

Hi

 

Like you, I also bought the app yesterday.  Some interesting observations for 
me was the fact that you have to choose between voice and audio signal.  Both 
can not happen, but not a stopper for me though.  What I would have liked more 
is the fact that the audio signal chosen, would indicate the real hour, e.g. 
striking 8 times for 8 o'clock.  This does not happen though, so if one were to 
choose only the audio signal for the hourly anouncement, you would not really 
know what the time is, unless you had the voice option set up for any other 
anouncements, like the half hour and so on.  Another interesting thing is that, 
if I set it up to go to sleep at 8 o'clock at night, it will still anounce the 
half past 8 time slot, after which it will go to sleep.  It's also interesting 
that the clock control is a different voice from the one you can choose to 
anounce the hour.  I have chosen the male voice, and that particular one only 
works on the options you choose to let him speak, but not in the clock control 
option where you can actually hear the time.  It still is a nice app, in my 
opinion, especially as one can set the times for the clock to actually work, 
and also can silence it with the do-not-disturb option under settings.

 

Regards

 

Jan Kleinhans

- Original Message - 

From: Raul A. Gallegos mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:59 PM

Subject: Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation

 

I just purchased qoo. Yes the app is free but for 1.99 you get more sounds and 
no ads. The link follows. 

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ckrono.qoo-cuckoo-on-your/id728515737?mt=8

On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com  wrote:

Have you tried Qoo which is free and works quite well at least on my end. The 
app is easy to use, all controls speak no problem with VoiceOver and there are 
different sound themes as well as two voices to choose from. That's q o o not c 
or k o o.


Sent from my laptop

On 13/10/2014 15:14, Paula Mack wrote:



I want to apologize for steering anyone wrong with my recommendation of the 
timely  app.

As I mentioned in my previous message, I was very upset about chime no longer 
being in the App Store. It seemed at first, as if timely would solve the 
problem. However, it doesn't seem to maintain the settings. I have received a 
refund and I am going to try to get chime from my computer.

I hope that other people can do the same. and the iTunes will let us all 
restore it. If not, maybe someone else will have better luck at finding a 
substitute than I did. I tried a  few and none of them were good.

 

Regards,

Paula Mack

 


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Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I'm not going to bother with a refund because I like the app overall. 
When I contacted them they said this is something to do with Apple 
restricting the duration of sounds used in notifications. When I 
challenged them they said other apps must do it a different way but they 
didn't know how. On the positive side they said they would look into the 
sounds again now iOS 8 is here and is more open to developers.


On 19/10/2014 20:26, Richard Turner wrote:

The thing that disappointed me was that it said it had the Big Ben chime.

However, if you choose that, you get a single gong at the quarter, half and 
three quarters passed the hour, or the entire chime sequence with a single gong 
on the hour.  So, I guess it is always one o’clock with this app.

It is misleading to indicate you have the Big Ben chime, when in every other 
app and with any clock that has the chime, you get the appropriate portion of 
the app for each part of the hour and the gongs strike one for each hour on the 
hour with the entire melody.



I requested and received a refund from the app store.



Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Ilniski
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation



I got the app other day as well. It's not going off for me right now. I'll have 
to check to see why. It was before so I don't know what happened. I did set my 
schedule for 6 AM to 10 PM each day.

Rebecca and Zeb

rilni...@gmail.com mailto:rilni...@gmail.com

Sent from my iphone


On Oct 14, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net 
mailto:jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net  wrote:

Hi



Like you, I also bought the app yesterday.  Some interesting observations for me was the fact that you have to choose between voice and audio signal.  Both can not happen, but not a stopper for me though.  What I would have liked more is the fact that the audio signal chosen, would indicate the real hour, e.g. striking 8 times for 8 o'clock.  This does not happen though, so if one were to choose only the audio signal for the hourly anouncement, you would not really know what the time is, unless you had the voice option set up for any other anouncements, like the half hour and so on.  Another interesting thing is that, if I set it up to go to sleep at 8 o'clock at night, it will still anounce the half past 8 time slot, after which it will go to sleep.  It's also interesting that the clock control is a different voice from the one you can choose to anounce the hour.  I have chosen the male voice, and that particular one only works on the options you choose to let him speak, but not 

in the clock control option where you can actually hear the time.  It still is 
a nice app, in my opinion, especially as one can set the times for the clock to 
actually work, and also can silence it with the do-not-disturb option under 
settings.




Regards



Jan Kleinhans

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:59 PM

Subject: Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation



I just purchased qoo. Yes the app is free but for 1.99 you get more sounds and 
no ads. The link follows.



https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ckrono.qoo-cuckoo-on-your/id728515737?mt=8

On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com  wrote:

Have you tried Qoo which is free and works quite well at least on my end. The 
app is easy to use, all controls speak no problem with VoiceOver and there are 
different sound themes as well as two voices to choose from. That's q o o not c 
or k o o.


Sent from my laptop

On 13/10/2014 15:14, Paula Mack wrote:



I want to apologize for steering anyone wrong with my recommendation of the 
timely  app.

As I mentioned in my previous message, I was very upset about chime no longer 
being in the App Store. It seemed at first, as if timely would solve the 
problem. However, it doesn't seem to maintain the settings. I have received a 
refund and I am going to try to get chime from my computer.

I hope that other people can do the same. and the iTunes will let us all 
restore it. If not, maybe someone else will have better luck at finding a 
substitute than I did. I tried a  few and none of them were good.



Regards,

Paula Mack






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Re: Question on Yahoo Fantasy football

2014-10-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Keith, the one thing in the app that does not work with VoiceOver is when you 
click on a player and try and read an update or stats. Yahoo is still working 
on making that accessible, and they are aware of the constant app crashing in 
IOS 8 issue with VO and they are pretty sure it is an IOS issue and not a Yahoo 
issue. Hope this helps.
On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using the Yahoo fantasy app for fantasy football. I noticed that there 
 are updates on the players, giving information on their last game and what 
 they are expected to do in the pending game.my cited wife can read these 
 updates, but I cannot read them with voiceover.I have tried the two finger 
 swipe down and the two finger swipe up commands, all to no avail.
 
 I am using an iPhone 5S with iOS 8.02. Has anyone else figured out how to 
 read these updates?
 
 Thanks for your help
 
 Keep
 
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RE: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Interesting, I never got a response from them when I inquired about that, which 
is why I went for a refund.
Had they bothered to respond to my question with that response, I would not 
have asked for a refund.

I don't think they will be bankrupted by not having my $1.99.

Richard

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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation

I'm not going to bother with a refund because I like the app overall. 
When I contacted them they said this is something to do with Apple 
restricting the duration of sounds used in notifications. When I 
challenged them they said other apps must do it a different way but they 
didn't know how. On the positive side they said they would look into the 
sounds again now iOS 8 is here and is more open to developers.

On 19/10/2014 20:26, Richard Turner wrote:
 The thing that disappointed me was that it said it had the Big Ben chime.

 However, if you choose that, you get a single gong at the quarter, half and 
 three quarters passed the hour, or the entire chime sequence with a single 
 gong on the hour.  So, I guess it is always one o’clock with this app.

 It is misleading to indicate you have the Big Ben chime, when in every other 
 app and with any clock that has the chime, you get the appropriate portion of 
 the app for each part of the hour and the gongs strike one for each hour on 
 the hour with the entire melody.



 I requested and received a refund from the app store.



 Richard





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Rebecca Ilniski
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation



 I got the app other day as well. It's not going off for me right now. I'll 
 have to check to see why. It was before so I don't know what happened. I did 
 set my schedule for 6 AM to 10 PM each day.

 Rebecca and Zeb

 rilni...@gmail.com mailto:rilni...@gmail.com

 Sent from my iphone


 On Oct 14, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Jan Kleinhans jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net 
 mailto:jhkleinh...@telkomsa.net  wrote:

 Hi



 Like you, I also bought the app yesterday.  Some interesting observations for 
 me was the fact that you have to choose between voice and audio signal.  Both 
 can not happen, but not a stopper for me though.  What I would have liked 
 more is the fact that the audio signal chosen, would indicate the real hour, 
 e.g. striking 8 times for 8 o'clock.  This does not happen though, so if one 
 were to choose only the audio signal for the hourly anouncement, you would 
 not really know what the time is, unless you had the voice option set up for 
 any other anouncements, like the half hour and so on.  Another interesting 
 thing is that, if I set it up to go to sleep at 8 o'clock at night, it will 
 still anounce the half past 8 time slot, after which it will go to sleep.  
 It's also interesting that the clock control is a different voice from the 
 one you can choose to anounce the hour.  I have chosen the male voice, and 
 that particular one only works on the options you choose to let him speak, 
 but not 
in the clock control option where you can actually hear the time.  It still is 
a nice app, in my opinion, especially as one can set the times for the clock to 
actually work, and also can silence it with the do-not-disturb option under 
settings.



 Regards



 Jan Kleinhans

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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:59 PM

 Subject: Re: Qoo was Re: About timely: I am revoking my recommendation



 I just purchased qoo. Yes the app is free but for 1.99 you get more sounds 
 and no ads. The link follows.



 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ckrono.qoo-cuckoo-on-your/id728515737?mt=8

 On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 mailto:challswor...@icloud.com  wrote:

 Have you tried Qoo which is free and works quite well at least on my end. The 
 app is easy to use, all controls speak no problem with VoiceOver and there 
 are different sound themes as well as two voices to choose from. That's q o o 
 not c or k o o.


 Sent from my laptop

 On 13/10/2014 15:14, Paula Mack wrote:



 I want to apologize for steering anyone wrong with my recommendation of the 
 timely  app.

 As I mentioned in my previous message, I was very upset about chime no longer 
 being in the App Store. It seemed at first, as if timely would solve the 
 problem. However, it doesn't seem to maintain the settings. I have received a 
 refund and I am going to try to get chime from my computer.

 I hope that other people can do the same. and the iTunes will let us all 
 restore it. If not, 

Re: library of congress books on the iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Rivard
The text field won't open in the BARD app.  I cannot do a search for the books 
using either the on screen keyboard or an Apple Bluetooth keyboard.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 The easiest way is to down load them again with the BARd app right onto your 
 phone.
 I’m assuming here that you are using the BARD app for these books.
  
 I just tried to find the old file share option under apps and didn’t find it.
  
 Maybe someone else has, but this looks problematic without using the app 
 itself on the phone.
  
 I hope you find a workable solution.
  
 Richard
  
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 Subject: library of congress books on the iPhone
  
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 using I O S 8.0.2.  I have some books, unzipped, on my PC and want to put 
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Help with a braille note apexhello I have a friend who is using a braille note apex and an iPhone 4 ass and she is having trouble getting the braille note apex to be seen to connected via Bluetooth an

2014-10-19 Thread Johnna Simmons


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Re: Opening documents from an attachment

2014-10-19 Thread David Chittenden
This relates to the VO not moving the visual display as VO focus is moved. 
Though somewhat tedious, the workaround is quite simple and doable in this case.

All attachments are displayed at the end of the message. Therefore, move the 
visual display to the end by using the three-finger vertical flick until VO 
announces ,page n of n as being the same number. now, merely locate the 
attachment button on the display and double-tap. It opens when it is visible on 
the display. Note: this is the same problem that is experienced with large 
websites in Safari. In that case, it is oftem much more complicated to find the 
correct page to show on the visual display.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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 On 19 Oct 2014, at 12:41, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I have had this problem ever since updating to IOS. Eight. I can locate 
 the attachment and double tap on it all day long it still will not open. He 
 has a success please let me know.
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Johnna Simmons johnnas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all, I have an iphone 5 c and é since I updated to Ios 8 I cannot open 
 email attachments. Anyó else having this problem? 
 
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RE: library of congress books on the iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Do a three finger swipe up to bring that part of the screen into view.

Then, when you double tap on the serach field it will open.

You may have to swipe up a couple times.

Good luck,

Richard

 

 

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Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: library of congress books on the iPhone

 

The text field won't open in the BARD app.  I cannot do a search for the books 
using either the on screen keyboard or an Apple Bluetooth keyboard.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com 
mailto:rich...@turner42.com  wrote:

The easiest way is to down load them again with the BARd app right onto your 
phone.

I’m assuming here that you are using the BARD app for these books.

 

I just tried to find the old file share option under apps and didn’t find it.

 

Maybe someone else has, but this looks problematic without using the app itself 
on the phone.

 

I hope you find a workable solution.

 

Richard

 

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Subject: library of congress books on the iPhone

 

I'm going to be away for a few days, but will not leave without my iPhone 5 
using I O S 8.0.2.  I have some books, unzipped, on my PC and want to put them 
onto my iPhone.  What is the easiest way to do this using iTunes 12?  Thanks.


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Re: Opening documents from an attachment

2014-10-19 Thread David Chittenden
If double-tapping does not work, split-tapping always works for me.

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 You need to three-finger swipe up until you reach the last page, then find 
 the attachment with your finger and double-tap it. You literally need to 
 place your finger on the attachment and double-tap it, not swipe to it.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
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 email attachments. Anyó else having this problem? 
 
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Removing duplicated songs on iPhone five

2014-10-19 Thread Danney Yates
I need to go in and clean out a lot of music from my iPhone. Although the 
customer rep at Verizon says you can do it directly on the iPhone I think I am 
going to have to go to iTunes to accomplish this. Isn't there a way to pull up 
all the duplicated songs while in iTunes and remove them all at once?

Any ideas would be appreciated
Danny

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Re: App Store continually crashing with iPad mini

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

This appears to be fixed in iOS 8 but hold of as 8.1 will be out tomorrow.

On 19/10/2014 20:10, Graham Roby wrote:

Hi,
I have just purchased a new iPad Mini with retina display. when I search for an 
app in the Apple App Store the app keeps crashing. I am running iOS 7 .11.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Kind regards

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RE: Removing duplicated songs on iPhone five

2014-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Under Windows, bring up the view menu and the letter d will show duplicates.
This works if you have songs selected.
If you have duplicate albums, I suspect it would also work.

Richard


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Subject: Removing duplicated songs on iPhone five

I need to go in and clean out a lot of music from my iPhone. Although the
customer rep at Verizon says you can do it directly on the iPhone I think I
am going to have to go to iTunes to accomplish this. Isn't there a way to
pull up all the duplicated songs while in iTunes and remove them all at
once?

Any ideas would be appreciated
Danny

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Re: learning handwriting

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
This would be true if there was a text file that could be converted to braille. 
As far as I know there is not.

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 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 
 Best way I know of would be to use braille to make a hard copy.
 
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Re: App Store continually crashing with iPad mini

2014-10-19 Thread Graham
Hi Chris,
Thanks I didn't know this was a bug as it does not happen to me on my iPhone.

Sent from my iPad

 On 19 Oct 2014, at 21:05, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 This appears to be fixed in iOS 8 but hold of as 8.1 will be out tomorrow.
 
 On 19/10/2014 20:10, Graham Roby wrote:
 Hi,
 I have just purchased a new iPad Mini with retina display. when I search for 
 an app in the Apple App Store the app keeps crashing. I am running iOS 7 .11.
 
 Has anyone else experienced this?
 
 Kind regards
 
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Re: a thought on Jonathan Mosen's I O S 8 book

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Yeah, good idea, especially with one feature that is actually new in 
8.1, the ability to send and receive regular text sms messages from and 
to iPad, iPod Touch and Macs running OS X Yosemite.


On 19/10/2014 17:29, Charles Rivard wrote:

This is not at all a criticism, but a curiosity:  The book was published when 
8.0 came out.  I haven't bought it yet, but probably will.  Here's my question:

As the book came out along with 8.0, will there be, or is it not necessary for 
there to be, an updated version after 8.1 and later updates to the operating 
system to keep the information current?

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IOS 8 and the iPod Touch 5

2014-10-19 Thread Christine Szostak
HI All,
  Has anyone upgraded to IOS 8 on an iPod Touch 5. If so, what is your 
experience like (e.g., major problems, sluggishness...). I am apprehensive 
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Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Knowing the screen reader being used in Windows would also be good information.

Christopher (CJ) on the move
Chaltain at Gmail

 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Yes, the latest release. But instructions for Windows iTunes and Mac iTunes 
 are not synonomous.
 
 -- 
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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Cherly just assume we are all talking about the latest release
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Sorry. I think it would be really helpful if people would put in the 
 subject line which iTunes they are using: Windows or Mac. A lot of the 
 general ideas are the same but the way to do things is somewhat different.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 I am using windows 7. 
 Jen 
  
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Help navigating itunes 12 with no side bar
  
 I am assuming you are using iTunes on the Mac, not Windows. Maybe that’s a 
 wrong assumption because I don’t think you specified this.
  
 Here is what you do. Make sure the music radio button is selected or do 
 cmd-1 to have it selected. If you are seeing albums, then this probably is 
 okay.
  
 Also make sure the “my Music” radio button is selected. This is another 
 set of radio buttons.
  
 You will then find a pop-up further to the right and I would think albums 
 is what you are on since you are seeing albums. Do vo-space to open the 
 popup. However, this is more like a table in a pop-up so don’t vo-arrow 
 down. Instead just arrow to what you want. Songs should be arrowing up 
 once if it says something like “row 2 albums” when you open the popup. It 
 seems that when I open the popup it always shows “row 2 albums” for me no 
 matter what the popup is on before I open it but I don’Tt know if this is 
 a default or has something to do with how I have it set up. Then don’t do 
 vo-space to close the popup; hit return instead. At least this is what 
 works for me. I think this works whether or not you are having the column 
 browser show or not. Sometimes you have to vo-right-arrow through the 
 window a couple of times to get your bearings of where things are. If you 
 can’t find something I’m talking about, post again and I’l give it another 
 try. If I have something in my view or sorting different from yours, it 
 could cause confusion in trying to explain it. You should be able to see 
 the table with all your songs
  
 
  
 --
 Cheryl
  
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
  
  
  
  
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
 Hi, 
 So I want to see my entire list of songs not in albums but just like a 
 list of the music like you could previously when the side bar was there. 
 My music and music is checked but all it shows is a list of albums. 
 I’m using windows and jaws 12.0. 
 Also how do you find apps and everything else that you used to see in the 
 side bar? 
 Thanks for any help. 
 Jen 
  
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Re: Opening documents from an attachment

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Well thank you, even though I've now sent the report in to Apple 
Accessibility.


On 19/10/2014 20:51, David Chittenden wrote:

This relates to the VO not moving the visual display as VO focus is moved. 
Though somewhat tedious, the workaround is quite simple and doable in this case.

All attachments are displayed at the end of the message. Therefore, move the 
visual display to the end by using the three-finger vertical flick until VO 
announces ,page n of n as being the same number. now, merely locate the 
attachment button on the display and double-tap. It opens when it is visible on 
the display. Note: this is the same problem that is experienced with large 
websites in Safari. In that case, it is oftem much more complicated to find the 
correct page to show on the visual display.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone


On 19 Oct 2014, at 12:41, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I have had this problem ever since updating to IOS. Eight. I can locate 
the attachment and double tap on it all day long it still will not open. He has 
a success please let me know.

On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Johnna Simmons johnnas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all, I have an iphone 5 c and é since I updated to Ios 8 I cannot open 
email attachments. Anyó else having this problem?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: App Store continually crashing with iPad mini

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Come to think of it, I had the same problem when i ran 7 on my Mini.

On 19/10/2014 21:22, Graham wrote:

Hi Chris,
Thanks I didn't know this was a bug as it does not happen to me on my iPhone.

Sent from my iPad


On 19 Oct 2014, at 21:05, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

This appears to be fixed in iOS 8 but hold of as 8.1 will be out tomorrow.


On 19/10/2014 20:10, Graham Roby wrote:
Hi,
I have just purchased a new iPad Mini with retina display. when I search for an 
app in the Apple App Store the app keeps crashing. I am running iOS 7 .11.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Kind regards

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I feel stupid for asking this but I can't remember how to add things from the itunes more button to my main screen

2014-10-19 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I got my music problem all fixed now but now I want to add apps and internet 
radio to my main screen and I know someone posted and thought I’d saved the 
email but apparently not so can someone please tell me how to do this?  
Thanks.  
Jen  

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Re: IOS 8 and the iPod Touch 5

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Well, I would hold off anyway, a major update will be out tomorrow that 
will hopefully correct bugs and improve performance especially on older 
devices.


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HI All,
   Has anyone upgraded to IOS 8 on an iPod Touch 5. If so, what is your 
experience like (e.g., major problems, sluggishness...). I am apprehensive 
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having with various apps and features on this list.
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Re: IOS 8 and the iPod Touch 5

2014-10-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
I mostly have problems with Voiceover restarting and sometimes have to reboot. 
Knowing what I know now, I'd recommend holding off on updating and see if the 
instability is resolved in the update.

HtH,
Teresa

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 Well, I would hold off anyway, a major update will be out tomorrow that will 
 hopefully correct bugs and improve performance especially on older devices.
 
 On 19/10/2014 21:48, Christine Szostak wrote:
 HI All,
   Has anyone upgraded to IOS 8 on an iPod Touch 5. If so, what is your 
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 about doing the upgrade given all of the negative sounding results folks are 
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 Have a nice afternoon!
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Re: App Store continually crashing with iPad mini

2014-10-19 Thread Graham
Hi Christopher, 

Fingers crossed for tomorrow then.

Apart from this little annoyance I'm loving this smaller ipad. 

Warm regards

Graham 


Sent from my iPad

 On 19 Oct 2014, at 21:54, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Come to think of it, I had the same problem when i ran 7 on my Mini.
 
 On 19/10/2014 21:22, Graham wrote:
 Hi Chris,
 Thanks I didn't know this was a bug as it does not happen to me on my iPhone.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19 Oct 2014, at 21:05, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 This appears to be fixed in iOS 8 but hold of as 8.1 will be out tomorrow.
 
 On 19/10/2014 20:10, Graham Roby wrote:
 Hi,
 I have just purchased a new iPad Mini with retina display. when I search 
 for an app in the Apple App Store the app keeps crashing. I am running iOS 
 7 .11.
 
 Has anyone else experienced this?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Graham
 
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Re: library of congress books on the iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
On your Bluetooth keyboard, turn QuickNav off by pressing the left and 
right-arrow keys at the same time. This will let you type in text fields. I 
leave this setting as it is, and use VO keys on the external keyboard with 
arrow keys, because I decided that it's more convenient. You can also toggle 
this on and off as you need to.
Teresa

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 On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 
 The text field won't open in the BARD app.  I cannot do a search for the 
 books using either the on screen keyboard or an Apple Bluetooth keyboard.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 The easiest way is to down load them again with the BARd app right onto your 
 phone.
 I’m assuming here that you are using the BARD app for these books.
  
 I just tried to find the old file share option under apps and didn’t find it.
  
 Maybe someone else has, but this looks problematic without using the app 
 itself on the phone.
  
 I hope you find a workable solution.
  
 Richard
  
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 I'm going to be away for a few days, but will not leave without my iPhone 5 
 using I O S 8.0.2.  I have some books, unzipped, on my PC and want to put 
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wandwhch.how can i add ring tones in itunes12

2014-10-19 Thread ramy moustafa


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RE: IOS 8 and the iPod Touch 5

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Christine,

 

I updated my wife’s iPod /Touch Fifth gen and the experience is not much 
different than it is omn my 5S. It might be a touch slower, but it’s nothing 
obvious at least not for me. As others reported you may occasionally deal with 
Voiceover restarting, but I don’t find it happens a lot.

 

I would definitely wait and upgrade after tomorrow (give it a day or two 
especially if you are upgrading from 7 to 8 and if you can do it via iTunes 
then I recommend that. I also highly recommend you at least quit all apps from 
the app switcher and do a reboot right before doing the u pdate. Of course you 
should also do a sync and backup if you use iTunes or at least do an iCloud 
backup if you don’t.

 

It is my understanding that tomorrow’s iOS 8.1 version will be updated from iOS 
8.1 Beta 2 which developers had a chance to download for the last week or so. 
Let’s hope there will be a few more fixes for some of the Voiceover bugs. There 
are a few fixes in 8.1 Beta 2, but I won’t say more except that some of the 
major Voiceover issues still are a problem, but maybe the public release 
tomorrow addresses some of these.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Teresa Cochran
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 8 and the iPod Touch 5

 

I mostly have problems with Voiceover restarting and sometimes have to reboot. 
Knowing what I know now, I'd recommend holding off on updating and see if the 
instability is resolved in the update.

 

HtH,

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


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mailto:challswor...@icloud.com  wrote:

Well, I would hold off anyway, a major update will be out tomorrow that will 
hopefully correct bugs and improve performance especially on older devices.

On 19/10/2014 21:48, Christine Szostak wrote:



HI All,

  Has anyone upgraded to IOS 8 on an iPod Touch 5. If so, what is your 
experience like (e.g., major problems, sluggishness...). I am apprehensive 
about doing the upgrade given all of the negative sounding results folks are 
having with various apps and features on this list.

Have a nice afternoon!

Chris

Christine M. Szostak, PhD

Assistant Professor

Department of Psychology

Shorter University

Rome, Georgia

szosta...@osu.edu mailto:szosta...@osu.edu 

 

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RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I am using the public beta of Jaws 16.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Sieghard 

 

What screenreader do you use to work with itunes or are you using a mac?

I heard that with windoweyes, there are problems with the latest updates.

Regards

Davy 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:21 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Robert,

 

Your iPhone or iPad will show up as a button right after the series of radio 
buttons, i.e. Music, Movies etc. Once you get to the “More” radio button tab 
one more time and you are on the button for your device. If your device is 
called “Robert’s iPhone” then that is what the button will be called. Once you 
activate the button, a tab or 2 gets you into a new treeview with all your 
categories or whatever  you want to call them. Gone are the old radio buttons 
for Summary, Info, Music, Apps, Tones etc. All of these are now in that list 
view. If you want to manage your tones, just go to the first Tones entry in 
that treeview and then tab across and you’ll find everything else is about the 
same as far as the checkboxes for “Sync all Ringtones” or “Synce selected 
ringtones” and so on. Jaws announces the first item in that treeview which is 
“Summary” as “2 of 21” on my computer. Not sure what 1 of 21 is but you can’t 
go higher than Summary. Once you get past all the stuff (apps, music, movies 
etc.) you come to the “Info” item which used to be right next to Summary in 
iTunes 11. After that you find another set of many of the same things like 
Apps, Music, Movies and so on and these are referring to what is on your 
iPhone. If you select, for example, the second “Tones” item and then tab you 
will come across a bunch of read only items and eventually you’ll find a list 
of all the tones on your phone whereas the first Tones shows you all the Tones 
in your iTunes library with checkmarks for those which are synced to your 
phone. After all the items you will then find a list of your playlists which 
are synced to your device.

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Where do I go to get to my device when I wish to sync new music, apps or tones 
to my device?

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:25 AM

Subject: iTunes 12 - I take it all back

 

Hello Listers,

 

OK, so after playing around with iTunes 12 and finally closing it since it’s 
getting late I reopened it to have another look and I suddenly had my list view 
with all my 4,000+ songs. So I looked and realized that when you set the button 
by which you filter how you want to see your music to artists, there is an “All 
Artists” selection at the very top of the list and if you select that and then 
tab once into the list view all songs do show up.

 

I then went back into the list of selections which are as follows:

 

Songs

Albums

Artists

Composers

Genres

 

I realized that while these now are in a list you have to activate by pressing 
enter or the space bar on the button and then tab once into the list, these 
were all the same choices as were in iTunes 11 where they were radio buttons. 
So I thought why not select Songs since in iTunes 11 you had to check the Songs 
radio button in order to enable the column browser and bingo, as soon as I did 
so my column browser was back with Genre, Artist and Album columns and I can 
select and narrow my music down by any of these just as before… brilliant!

 

So, here again is what to look for:

 

Make sure you press Alt+1 in Windows or check the Music radio button. I always 
find that the search edit box is a good place to start, just press Control+F to 
jump to that search field.

Once you are in the search field, tab once and you are on a button called 
“Search Options”, this is just like iTunes 11.

Tab once more and you are on the Music radio button, make sure it is checked by 
pressing the spacebar.

After the music radio button if you tab you get to “Movies”, “TV Shows” and 
then “More”. I am not sure if everybody has Movies and TV Shows or if these 
might not be there if you don’t enable them in Preferences.

Anyhow, More is where you find things like Apps, Audio Books, Tones, Podcasts 
etc.

Once you tab past the More radio button, you have 3 additional radio buttons 
which are specific to what you selected before, e.g. if you selected Music, 
then the 3 buttons are:


RE: wandwhch.how can i add ring tones in itunes12

2014-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ramy,

The process is identical to iTunes 11. Make sure your ringtone has been
added to your tones library in iTunes first. Now do the following:

1. Connect your device, activate the iPhone button to go to your device.
2. In the treeview which starts with Summary go to the first listing for
Tones.
3. Tab a few times and select either to Sync all tones or Sync selected
tones.
4. If you selected to Sync all tones then just go to File, Device and
Sync. If you chose to sync only selected tones tab some more until you get
to the treeview where all your tones are listed. Check the ones you want to
sync and then do the sync. Like I said, the process is identical, only
difference is that in iTunes 11 things like Apps, Music, Tones and so on
were radio buttons once you went to your device section, now they are items
in a treeview and you can simply arrow to them and then tab to the relevant
controls.


Regards,
Sieghard


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An iPad List!

2014-10-19 Thread Noe Villeda
Hello listers,

My best friend just upgraded to an iPad mini 4th generation.
Is there a list for specifically iPad users using voiceover.

He is also looking for a good app to record sound files with voiceover and then 
transfer them to the computer.

I'd appreciate any information.

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Re: a thought on Jonathan Mosen's I O S 8 book

2014-10-19 Thread Wayne Merritt
If the updates are significant, then probably so. As I recall, there
was at least one update to his book last year on iOS 7 after the book
was officially released.

Wayne

On 10/19/14, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 Yeah, good idea, especially with one feature that is actually new in
 8.1, the ability to send and receive regular text sms messages from and
 to iPad, iPod Touch and Macs running OS X Yosemite.

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 This is not at all a criticism, but a curiosity:  The book was published
 when 8.0 came out.  I haven't bought it yet, but probably will.  Here's my
 question:

 As the book came out along with 8.0, will there be, or is it not necessary
 for there to be, an updated version after 8.1 and later updates to the
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Re: library of congress books on the iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Chris Chaffin


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Do a three finger swipe up to bring that part of the screen into view.
 Then, when you double tap on the serach field it will open.
 You may have to swipe up a couple times.
 Good luck,
 Richard
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Charles Rivard
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: library of congress books on the iPhone
  
 The text field won't open in the BARD app.  I cannot do a search for the 
 books using either the on screen keyboard or an Apple Bluetooth keyboard.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 The easiest way is to down load them again with the BARd app right onto your 
 phone.
 I’m assuming here that you are using the BARD app for these books.
  
 I just tried to find the old file share option under apps and didn’t find it.
  
 Maybe someone else has, but this looks problematic without using the app 
 itself on the phone.
  
 I hope you find a workable solution.
  
 Richard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Charles Rivard
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:36 AM
 To: visually impaired phone group
 Subject: library of congress books on the iPhone
  
 I'm going to be away for a few days, but will not leave without my iPhone 5 
 using I O S 8.0.2.  I have some books, unzipped, on my PC and want to put 
 them onto my iPhone.  What is the easiest way to do this using iTunes 12?  
 Thanks.
 
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Re: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu

2014-10-19 Thread Wren Langley
Hi, I clicked on the link because I wanted to get the file. But when I when I 
clicked on it and it went into Safari and said error unable to read document I 
tried opening it it invoice dream and got the same result. Could someone please 
tell me how to download this file thank you very much. God bless, Wren Langley 
PS. If this is hijacking a thread please tell me

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 On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Terrie, 
 I hope you and others do find it useful.
 Itunes 12 in some ways is better than 11.
 I was able to get to editing my Podcast download options much more easily in 
 this version.
  
 I just replaced the previous file with each heading having the heading 
 attribute in case other screen reader support navigating by headings.
  
 I hope the link didn’t change but just in case, here it is again:
  
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iTunes%2012%20shortcuts%20for%20common%20commands.rtf
  
 Richard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu
  
 Richard,
 Thank you! This is going to help me a great deal, and it will help others 
 on this list who, like me, have not yet made friends with iTunes. Now, 
 however, I have a way to do so. I appreciate the time and work involved in 
 putting this list together and I appreciate tyour kindness in sharing.
 Smiles,
 Terrie Terlau
  
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 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:43 PM
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 Subject: iTunes shortcuts in RTF from the iTunes 12 help menu
  
 Greetings,
 Because I find it helpful for myself to have the list of shortcuts in a handy 
 file, I copied everything from the iTunes 12 help menu on keyboard shortcuts 
 and formatted each section into tables and saved it as an RTF since that is a 
 universal format that keeps things like tables in tact.
 I put it on my DropBox and am copying the link below.  The only thing that 
 needs correcting I’m sure, is that the command for “Switch between viewing 
 visual effects using the entire screen or in the iTunes window (when 
 visualizer is on), even though this is a Windows system, the shortcut key 
 says “command+f” and since there isn’t a command key on a Windows keyboard, I 
 suspect that should be either control, alt, or Windows, but I am not sure 
 which it should be  so I left it as Apple listed it.
  
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iTunes%2012%20shortcuts%20for%20common%20commands.rtf
  
 HTH,
 Richard
  
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Re: library of congress books on the iPhone

2014-10-19 Thread Chris Chaffin

I have never used iTunes to transfer any BARD books to my phone.  If on my 
computer, I have put the zip file in dropbox and synced it to my phone that way.
But for the most part, I go on the site on my computer and add whatever books 
to my wish list, then you can just download them to your phone using the app.
I have done the same thing using the browser in the app, but with the focus 
issues in ios 8, it is easier for me just to use my computer until apple fixes 
the bugs in ios 8.

Hope this helps.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Do a three finger swipe up to bring that part of the screen into view.
 Then, when you double tap on the serach field it will open.
 You may have to swipe up a couple times.
 Good luck,
 Richard
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Charles Rivard
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: library of congress books on the iPhone
  
 The text field won't open in the BARD app.  I cannot do a search for the 
 books using either the on screen keyboard or an Apple Bluetooth keyboard.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 The easiest way is to down load them again with the BARd app right onto your 
 phone.
 I’m assuming here that you are using the BARD app for these books.
  
 I just tried to find the old file share option under apps and didn’t find it.
  
 Maybe someone else has, but this looks problematic without using the app 
 itself on the phone.
  
 I hope you find a workable solution.
  
 Richard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:36 AM
 To: visually impaired phone group
 Subject: library of congress books on the iPhone
  
 I'm going to be away for a few days, but will not leave without my iPhone 5 
 using I O S 8.0.2.  I have some books, unzipped, on my PC and want to put 
 them onto my iPhone.  What is the easiest way to do this using iTunes 12?  
 Thanks.
 
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How can I re-download my voice dream voices without repurchasing them

2014-10-19 Thread Wren Langley
 hi all and thank you very very much for the help. I had to set up my iPhone as 
a new iPhone. When I downloaded voice dream I went to my voices and it asked me 
if I wanted to buy them. Is there a way that I can restore them without 
repurchasing them? If so. How do I do this? Thank you very much again for the 
very much appreciated help. Because I hope that I don't have to repurchase 
themGod bless, Wren Langley

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ios8 braille input question

2014-10-19 Thread Donald Bishop
I’ve gotten the braille input to work, but a couple questions.  

If writing a message, for example, once I enter a name into the “to” field, how 
do I select that from the supplied suggestions? 

Related to this, how do i move to the next element such as message content to 
enter data in braille?

Do I need to end the braille input to move to the next field with the normal 
onscreen keyboard?

Thanks,
Don

 

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Re: How can I re-download my voice dream voices without repurchasing them

2014-10-19 Thread Barry Abbott
Just bye them. It will recognize that you have already purchased the voice and 
give you the option to download.
Barry
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 hi all and thank you very very much for the help. I had to set up my iPhone 
 as a new iPhone. When I downloaded voice dream I went to my voices and it 
 asked me if I wanted to buy them. Is there a way that I can restore them 
 without repurchasing them? If so. How do I do this? Thank you very much again 
 for the very much appreciated help. Because I hope that I don't have to 
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