A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on my
iPhone 6 Plus.

The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay
transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I find
myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week, sometimes
even more.  

The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the ability
to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to install
a store-specific app.

Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of
third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a
passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across the
web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to
third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.

Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering virtualizing
all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as KeyRing
or Stocards.  

Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on my
phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.  

I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when, earlier
today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her
iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a
store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.

To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a
convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good. The
customer was, to put it mildly, furious.  

After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store
reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a store
employee.  

A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it to.

Mark

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Re: Contacting A Moderator

[RobH.]

It is more normal for a list moderator to respond to the listname-owner@ 
address, but this is specifically ignored by the mods here. This is the bit 
I think is wrong, or less than right so to speak.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Contacting A Moderator


Did you ask the moderator directly or on the list?

I did a spot check of the lists I'm on, and I don't see a moderator's
email address in the footer of any of the messages I checked. I don't
include my email address in the footer of any of the lists I moderate or
own. I can't speak for the moderator of this list, but this doesn't seem
to be a standard or common practice.

I know there are people who don't want to follow links, but there is a
contact the owner link on the Google Groups page for this list which you
can get to by following the link in the footer of each message. I'm not
sure I've used it, so I'm not sure if it's set up correctly or not.

On 02/20/2015 06:12 PM, SSEric wrote:
> As I asked a moderator, wouldn't it make sense to put an address in the
> footer information. I did not get an answer, so I guess that one did not
> think so
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Contacting A Moderator
>
> I just sent you that information off list.
>
> On 02/19/2015 01:32 PM, jibberjabber2...@talktalk.net wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>> Can anyone tell me the contact details for any of the moderators?
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>

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Re: Talking atlas for iPad

[RobH.]

Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to pay that 
much until someone says it works as well as they say on the site, and even 
on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're all looking for a 
volunteer with £30 to spare for trying this product.
Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to try it 
and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how much control 
of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent £3/$5 each, it would be worth that 
to know the answer maybe?


JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination with 
geography.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nancy Badger" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
Subject: Talking atlas for iPad


Hello,
I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has had 
any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to buy it until 
I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so expensive. 
Thanks for any help.
Nancy

Sent from my iPad

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Re: iTunes and music on my phone

[Charles Rivard]

On my machine, I cannot get the cursor into the spot to check the 
checkboxes.  Even with using a braille display and the cursor routing 
buttons, pressing in the box won't work.  Not sure if it makes a difference, 
but I'm using JAWS 15 and Windows XP Pro.  Any thoughts or advice?


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From: "Robert Doc Wright" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes and music on my phone


Here is a program that will allow you to copy music and pictures and videos
from your iDevice to your computer.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jd3tg3

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Chaffin" 

To: "VIPhone List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:08 AM
Subject: iTunes and music on my phone


Hello all,
I got a new laptop and after installing iTunes, I proceeded to sync and
backup my phone.
Everything went well, but I noticed that the music I currently have on my
phone did not sync into iTunes.
I found this out by trying to look at my music in iTunes.

Now iTunes told me that my phone had been synced with another computer, and
gave the name of my old laptop, it then said that if I wanted to sync my
music with this iTunes, then I could but it would erase all of the music on
my phone.
My question is, is there a way of adding the music I have on my phone to the
iTunes on my new laptop?

Now I will say that the music on my phone is mp3 files I put on there
myself, and not music I bought from iTunes.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Chris Chaffin


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If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

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is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Eric Oyen]

hello group,

I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question is 
this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of the 
voiceover issues have been resolved?

any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

-eric

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Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Davy Cuppens]

Hey Eric

What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait updating, 
if it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better upgrade then to 
the last version.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Eric Oyen

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
To: Visually impaired phone users
Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

hello group,

I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question 
is this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of 
the voiceover issues have been resolved?


any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

-eric

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Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Eric Oyen]

I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of major 
bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.

-eric

On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

> Hey Eric
> 
> What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait updating, 
> if it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better upgrade then to 
> the last version.
> Regards
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
> To: Visually impaired phone users
> Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?
> 
> hello group,
> 
> I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
> previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question 
> is this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of the 
> voiceover issues have been resolved?
> 
> any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> -eric
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bard question

[Patti Johnson]

Has any one had trouble deleting books from the bard app?   Since I 
don't use it I need to ask this for a friend who says she used to be 
able to delete books but  can't now.

Any idea what is up with this?
Thanks,
Patti

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Re: bard question

[Christopher Chaltain]

No, I haven't had any trouble, and I just deleted a few books the other 
day. Are they trying to delete something from the wish list by any 
chance? Connectivity issues may interfere with this.


On 02/21/2015 07:17 AM, Patti Johnson wrote:

Has any one had trouble deleting books from the bard app?   Since I
don't use it I need to ask this for a friend who says she used to be
able to delete books but  can't now.
Any idea what is up with this?
Thanks,
Patti



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Re: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[Alan Lemly]

Mark, 

Thanks for sharing this. If using apple Pay or any of these smartphone payment 
options that are looming ever closer require me to pass my device to someone 
else, I'm not sure I'll ever use them. My electronics last a long time because 
I'm the one in control of them. There are just too many butterfingers in the 
world. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 2:17 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on my
> iPhone 6 Plus.
> 
> The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay
> transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I find
> myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week, sometimes
> even more.  
> 
> The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the ability
> to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to install
> a store-specific app.
> 
> Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of
> third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a
> passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across the
> web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to
> third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.
> 
> Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering virtualizing
> all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as KeyRing
> or Stocards.  
> 
> Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on my
> phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.  
> 
> I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when, earlier
> today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her
> iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a
> store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.
> 
> To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a
> convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good. The
> customer was, to put it mildly, furious.  
> 
> After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store
> reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a store
> employee.  
> 
> A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it to.
> 
> Mark
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Re: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[Teresa Cochran]

I thought I'd heard that there are kiosks you can use to bump your phone 
against, similar to using AirDrop? I don't think I'd be comfortable handing the 
device to someone, but I have to think that eventually things will be set up so 
you can use a device and do it yourself.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mark, 
> 
> Thanks for sharing this. If using apple Pay or any of these smartphone 
> payment options that are looming ever closer require me to pass my device to 
> someone else, I'm not sure I'll ever use them. My electronics last a long 
> time because I'm the one in control of them. There are just too many 
> butterfingers in the world. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 2:17 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on my
>> iPhone 6 Plus.
>> 
>> The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay
>> transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I find
>> myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week, sometimes
>> even more.  
>> 
>> The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the ability
>> to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to install
>> a store-specific app.
>> 
>> Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of
>> third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a
>> passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across the
>> web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to
>> third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.
>> 
>> Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering virtualizing
>> all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as KeyRing
>> or Stocards.  
>> 
>> Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on my
>> phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.  
>> 
>> I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when, earlier
>> today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her
>> iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a
>> store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.
>> 
>> To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a
>> convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good. The
>> customer was, to put it mildly, furious.  
>> 
>> After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store
>> reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a store
>> employee.  
>> 
>> A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it to.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: very bad fb app update

[jazzyjennifer]

yeah my fb app keeps crashing too. i hate that, when you find a good app 
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Re: very bad fb app update

[Teresa Cochran]

That's very strange. I'm not experiencing any crashes with FB. I must be lucky.

Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:52 AM, jazzyjennifer  wrote:
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> yeah my fb app keeps crashing too. i hate that, when you find a good app that 
> works. and they turn around and up date it and brake it.
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Bard Question

[Patti Johnson]

I don't kow, but I will ask her that question.  Thank you,
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Re: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[Chris Chaffin]

I could be wrong, but isn't the device the clerk uses to scan your rewards card 
on a cord?  Could you not just hold your phone out toward the clerk face up and 
they scan the screen of the phone that way?
Like everybody else, I would be a little nervous just handing over my phone.  
The way I do it now is, I just give the clerk my phone number and they pull up 
my rewards information that way.  To me, that is easy short and sweet!

Chris


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> On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> I thought I'd heard that there are kiosks you can use to bump your phone 
> against, similar to using AirDrop? I don't think I'd be comfortable handing 
> the device to someone, but I have to think that eventually things will be set 
> up so you can use a device and do it yourself.
> 
> Teresa
> 
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> the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Mark, 
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing this. If using apple Pay or any of these smartphone 
>> payment options that are looming ever closer require me to pass my device to 
>> someone else, I'm not sure I'll ever use them. My electronics last a long 
>> time because I'm the one in control of them. There are just too many 
>> butterfingers in the world. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 2:17 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on my
>>> iPhone 6 Plus.
>>> 
>>> The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay
>>> transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I find
>>> myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week, sometimes
>>> even more.  
>>> 
>>> The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the ability
>>> to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to install
>>> a store-specific app.
>>> 
>>> Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of
>>> third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a
>>> passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across the
>>> web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to
>>> third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.
>>> 
>>> Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering virtualizing
>>> all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as KeyRing
>>> or Stocards.  
>>> 
>>> Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on my
>>> phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.  
>>> 
>>> I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when, earlier
>>> today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her
>>> iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a
>>> store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.
>>> 
>>> To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a
>>> convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good. The
>>> customer was, to put it mildly, furious.  
>>> 
>>> After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store
>>> reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a store
>>> employee.  
>>> 
>>> A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it to.
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Re: Help with Bookshare

[Jane]

There is also another app out there called Voice Dream Reaer. I use that in 
conjunction with Read2Go. I use Read2Go for newspapers, and Voice Dream for 
everything else.

Voice Dream lets me read much more quickly--also, you can save the library to 
your computer, meaning you never loose your books--unlike with Read2Go. If 
something goes wrong and you have to re-install Read2Go, your downloaded 
materials are gone. Not so with Voice Dream Reader, as long as you remember to 
save the library.

Jane




> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I use this app all the time. First you have to decide if you want to read 
> with voiceover or if you want to read with the audio inside the app. You need 
> to choose this in settings. If you choose the audio inside the app, there is 
> a play/pause button in the middleof the very bottom of the page. Double tap 
> it and it will start playing and read continually. You only have to press the 
> next page but if for some reason you want to skip to the next page or if you 
> are reading in voiceover. I hope this makes sense. Let me know if you have 
> other questions.
> Nancy
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:48 PM, amber8844 .  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list members Please could some of you on this list help me out?
>> I have just now joined bookshare and I purchased the read to go app.
>> Are there any tutorials? Is there any way to read several pages at the
>> time or do you have to click on next page?
>> If there any tips that any one has it will be very appreciated.
>> By the way I am using Ipad air. You may contact me off list if you
>> like. Thanks in advance.
>> Janie
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Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Devin Prater]

I think most of the bugs have been exterminated. Besides that, I think Alex 
alone is worth upgrading for. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
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> I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of major 
> bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Eric
>> 
>> What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait updating, 
>> if it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better upgrade then to 
>> the last version.
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
>> To: Visually impaired phone users
>> Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?
>> 
>> hello group,
>> 
>> I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
>> previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question 
>> is this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of 
>> the voiceover issues have been resolved?
>> 
>> any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> -eric
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Re: Alex question and question about MobileLite

[Gmail]

I'm not sure.


Thanks,
Ari


> On Feb 20, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Rob  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Can the MobileLite be used to airplay music and movies to Apple TV?
> 
>> On 2/20/2015 3:48 PM, Gmail wrote:
>> With the MobileLite, I think there's an option on the main screen of the app 
>> called import. It might be called import/export. Either way, you double tap 
>> on that, and depending on if you're copying to your phone or from your 
>> phone, there will be the appropriate option. It's very accessible, I just 
>> can't remember exactly how to do it. The only things you can copy to and 
>> from your phone are photos and videos in your camera roll.
>> 
>> I plan to figure out how to write the developers to ask them to implement 
>> the standard iOS player controls in there app. Currently, you can't 
>> double-tap and hold the fast forward or rewind buttons to scan through the 
>> file you're playing. Also, there are tends to be some focus issues within 
>> the app if you're trying to flick too things. Exploring the screen with a 
>> finger and split-tapping works much better, but you should have the option 
>> of flicking through things, too.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Regina Alvarado  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Two questions. I downloaded Alex. Still trying to see if he sounds easier 
>>> to listen to for me with my hearing deficit. If I decide I want Samantha 
>>> back, does Alex stay on my phone? Have a lot of room so not a problem, just 
>>> wondering.
>>> 
>>> Second question is about the MobileLite. How do I transfer files from 
>>> iPhone to MobileLite and back? Thanks for any help on either question.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> reggie and Allegra
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Read2Go vs Voice Dream for Periodicals (was: Help with Bookshare)

[Alex Hall]

Out of curiosity, because I never read periodicals, what does Read2Go do that 
makes it easier to read newspapers in than Voice Dream Reader? I've heard one 
or two other people say the same thing, but I can't figure out just what the 
advantage is. Thanks.
> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Jane  wrote:
> 
> There is also another app out there called Voice Dream Reaer. I use that in 
> conjunction with Read2Go. I use Read2Go for newspapers, and Voice Dream for 
> everything else.
> 
> Voice Dream lets me read much more quickly--also, you can save the library to 
> your computer, meaning you never loose your books--unlike with Read2Go. If 
> something goes wrong and you have to re-install Read2Go, your downloaded 
> materials are gone. Not so with Voice Dream Reader, as long as you remember 
> to save the library.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I use this app all the time. First you have to decide if you want to read 
>> with voiceover or if you want to read with the audio inside the app. You 
>> need to choose this in settings. If you choose the audio inside the app, 
>> there is a play/pause button in the middleof the very bottom of the page. 
>> Double tap it and it will start playing and read continually. You only have 
>> to press the next page but if for some reason you want to skip to the next 
>> page or if you are reading in voiceover. I hope this makes sense. Let me 
>> know if you have other questions.
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:48 PM, amber8844 .  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello list members Please could some of you on this list help me out?
>>> I have just now joined bookshare and I purchased the read to go app.
>>> Are there any tutorials? Is there any way to read several pages at the
>>> time or do you have to click on next page?
>>> If there any tips that any one has it will be very appreciated.
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Re: Read2Go vs Voice Dream for Periodicals (was: Help with Bookshare)

[Jane]

Easier to move by headings and skip articles--for me, anyway, using Read2Go.

Of course, there's the NFB Newsline app, and I guess you can do the same thing 
there.

Jane




> On Feb 21, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity, because I never read periodicals, what does Read2Go do that 
> makes it easier to read newspapers in than Voice Dream Reader? I've heard one 
> or two other people say the same thing, but I can't figure out just what the 
> advantage is. Thanks.
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Jane > > wrote:
>> 
>> There is also another app out there called Voice Dream Reaer. I use that in 
>> conjunction with Read2Go. I use Read2Go for newspapers, and Voice Dream for 
>> everything else.
>> 
>> Voice Dream lets me read much more quickly--also, you can save the library 
>> to your computer, meaning you never loose your books--unlike with Read2Go. 
>> If something goes wrong and you have to re-install Read2Go, your downloaded 
>> materials are gone. Not so with Voice Dream Reader, as long as you remember 
>> to save the library.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Nancy Badger >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I use this app all the time. First you have to decide if you want to read 
>>> with voiceover or if you want to read with the audio inside the app. You 
>>> need to choose this in settings. If you choose the audio inside the app, 
>>> there is a play/pause button in the middleof the very bottom of the page. 
>>> Double tap it and it will start playing and read continually. You only have 
>>> to press the next page but if for some reason you want to skip to the next 
>>> page or if you are reading in voiceover. I hope this makes sense. Let me 
>>> know if you have other questions.
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:48 PM, amber8844 . >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello list members Please could some of you on this list help me out?
 I have just now joined bookshare and I purchased the read to go app.
 Are there any tutorials? Is there any way to read several pages at the
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 If there any tips that any one has it will be very appreciated.
 By the way I am using Ipad air. You may contact me off list if you
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Re: Read2Go vs Voice Dream for Periodicals (was: Help with Bookshare)

[Devin Prater]

I know that the android version of the book share platform downloads new 
versions or days of newspapers automatically but I don't know if the iOS 
version does too. Perhaps this would be a good feature request for voicedream. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity, because I never read periodicals, what does Read2Go do that 
> makes it easier to read newspapers in than Voice Dream Reader? I've heard one 
> or two other people say the same thing, but I can't figure out just what the 
> advantage is. Thanks.
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>> There is also another app out there called Voice Dream Reaer. I use that in 
>> conjunction with Read2Go. I use Read2Go for newspapers, and Voice Dream for 
>> everything else.
>> 
>> Voice Dream lets me read much more quickly--also, you can save the library 
>> to your computer, meaning you never loose your books--unlike with Read2Go. 
>> If something goes wrong and you have to re-install Read2Go, your downloaded 
>> materials are gone. Not so with Voice Dream Reader, as long as you remember 
>> to save the library.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I use this app all the time. First you have to decide if you want to read 
>>> with voiceover or if you want to read with the audio inside the app. You 
>>> need to choose this in settings. If you choose the audio inside the app, 
>>> there is a play/pause button in the middleof the very bottom of the page. 
>>> Double tap it and it will start playing and read continually. You only have 
>>> to press the next page but if for some reason you want to skip to the next 
>>> page or if you are reading in voiceover. I hope this makes sense. Let me 
>>> know if you have other questions.
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:48 PM, amber8844 .  wrote:
 
 Hello list members Please could some of you on this list help me out?
 I have just now joined bookshare and I purchased the read to go app.
 Are there any tutorials? Is there any way to read several pages at the
 time or do you have to click on next page?
 If there any tips that any one has it will be very appreciated.
 By the way I am using Ipad air. You may contact me off list if you
 like. Thanks in advance.
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RE: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Devin,

A number of bugs have been fixed, but there also still are some annoying ones 
which have been present ever since the first iOS 8 beta release which means 
they have been reported to Apple now for 9 months and still are not fixed. One 
of these is the fact that you can't move most apps in the bottom row of the 
home screen (the one above the dock). I believe there are alsos till issues 
with Safari and the back button on web pages and a number of issues for braille 
users.

Apple has so far released 5 beta versions of iOS 8.2 and even though 8.2 is not 
even out yet to the public, iOS 8.3 Beta 1 has been released and 8.3 Beta 2 is 
expected next week. 8.3 Beta 1 seems to have fixed a few things, but other 
problems have been introduced so let's ope they get fixed soon.

Jonathan has written an excellent article about the just announced iOS public 
beta program which 9to5Mac has written about and which is expected to start on 
March 11 with a public beta of iOS 8.3. This means I would expect that iOS 8.2 
will be released publically before then, but who knows, maybe iOS 8.2 will 
never become a public release and Apple will stick with 8.1.3 until the publick 
release of 8.3. They are definitely doing things differently and in any case, 
the majority of the new features in the 8.2 beta are about the upcoming Apple 
Watch. Once again Jonathan has blogged about an article which states that while 
iOS 9 which will be announced in a little over 3 months during Apple's world 
wide developer conference will of course have some new features, but focus will 
be heavily about squashing bugs and on getting iOS to be what it used to be, a 
platform which is rock solid, secure and which works well without a lot of 
bugs. I think we do have good things to look forward to this year and quite a 
few Voiceover users will most likely manage to be part of that group of 100,000 
people who will get access to the iOS 8.3 and later iOS 9 public beta. Yes, I 
know people have already asked how they can register for that, but I think we 
just have to wait until Apple announces this officially and those who do want 
to participate better be on the ball since I doubt that once Apple does take 
registrations it will take long for the 100,000 spots to be filled. It would 
actually be nice if Apple set aside 1% or so of these spots specifically for 
Voiceover users maybe by registration via Apple Accessibility, but I doubt that 
will happen and we will just have to compete with everybody else..


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

I think most of the bugs have been exterminated. Besides that, I think Alex 
alone is worth upgrading for. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of major 
> bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Eric
>> 
>> What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait updating, 
>> if it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better upgrade then to 
>> the last version.
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
>> To: Visually impaired phone users
>> Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?
>> 
>> hello group,
>> 
>> I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
>> previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question 
>> is this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of 
>> the voiceover issues have been resolved?
>> 
>> any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
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Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Devin Prater]

Well it all depends on if apple listens to the bug reports. If OS X Yosemite is 
one show of apples ability to listen, then voiceover will just have to wait 
until iOS 9.3 or so. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Devin,
> 
> A number of bugs have been fixed, but there also still are some annoying ones 
> which have been present ever since the first iOS 8 beta release which means 
> they have been reported to Apple now for 9 months and still are not fixed. 
> One of these is the fact that you can't move most apps in the bottom row of 
> the home screen (the one above the dock). I believe there are alsos till 
> issues with Safari and the back button on web pages and a number of issues 
> for braille users.
> 
> Apple has so far released 5 beta versions of iOS 8.2 and even though 8.2 is 
> not even out yet to the public, iOS 8.3 Beta 1 has been released and 8.3 Beta 
> 2 is expected next week. 8.3 Beta 1 seems to have fixed a few things, but 
> other problems have been introduced so let's ope they get fixed soon.
> 
> Jonathan has written an excellent article about the just announced iOS public 
> beta program which 9to5Mac has written about and which is expected to start 
> on March 11 with a public beta of iOS 8.3. This means I would expect that iOS 
> 8.2 will be released publically before then, but who knows, maybe iOS 8.2 
> will never become a public release and Apple will stick with 8.1.3 until the 
> publick release of 8.3. They are definitely doing things differently and in 
> any case, the majority of the new features in the 8.2 beta are about the 
> upcoming Apple Watch. Once again Jonathan has blogged about an article which 
> states that while iOS 9 which will be announced in a little over 3 months 
> during Apple's world wide developer conference will of course have some new 
> features, but focus will be heavily about squashing bugs and on getting iOS 
> to be what it used to be, a platform which is rock solid, secure and which 
> works well without a lot of bugs. I think we do have good things to look 
> forward to this year and quite a few Voiceover users will most likely manage 
> to be part of that group of 100,000 people who will get access to the iOS 8.3 
> and later iOS 9 public beta. Yes, I know people have already asked how they 
> can register for that, but I think we just have to wait until Apple announces 
> this officially and those who do want to participate better be on the ball 
> since I doubt that once Apple does take registrations it will take long for 
> the 100,000 spots to be filled. It would actually be nice if Apple set aside 
> 1% or so of these spots specifically for Voiceover users maybe by 
> registration via Apple Accessibility, but I doubt that will happen and we 
> will just have to compete with everybody else..
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?
> 
> I think most of the bugs have been exterminated. Besides that, I think Alex 
> alone is worth upgrading for. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of 
>> major bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Eric
>>> 
>>> What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait 
>>> updating, if it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better 
>>> upgrade then to the last version.
>>> Regards
>>> Davy
>>> 
>>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
>>> To: Visually impaired phone users
>>> Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?
>>> 
>>> hello group,
>>> 
>>> I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
>>> previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question 
>>> is this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of 
>>> the voiceover issues have been resolved?
>>> 
>>> any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
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Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven't read the articles on this public beta yet, but it takes more 
than a public beta to squash bugs. There also has to be a commitment 
from Apple to put resources into fixing the reported bugs. As Sieghard 
says below, many of the bugs we're still seeing now in IOS 8 were 
reported during the beta, so it isn't an issue of Apple not knowing the 
bugs were out there.


Given that this is a public beta and the blind community is so small, 
I'd also be concerned a bit that bugs just affecting the blind VoiceOver 
user might get drowned out by the bugs affecting so many other users. 
Obviously, fixing any bug will help all IOS users, including the blind, 
but Apple will need to continue to be committed to accessibility and fix 
VoiceOver bugs even if they only affect blind users.


On 02/21/2015 11:03 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

Well it all depends on if apple listens to the bug reports. If OS X Yosemite is 
one show of apples ability to listen, then voiceover will just have to wait 
until iOS 9.3 or so.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Devin,

A number of bugs have been fixed, but there also still are some annoying ones 
which have been present ever since the first iOS 8 beta release which means 
they have been reported to Apple now for 9 months and still are not fixed. One 
of these is the fact that you can't move most apps in the bottom row of the 
home screen (the one above the dock). I believe there are alsos till issues 
with Safari and the back button on web pages and a number of issues for braille 
users.

Apple has so far released 5 beta versions of iOS 8.2 and even though 8.2 is not 
even out yet to the public, iOS 8.3 Beta 1 has been released and 8.3 Beta 2 is 
expected next week. 8.3 Beta 1 seems to have fixed a few things, but other 
problems have been introduced so let's ope they get fixed soon.

Jonathan has written an excellent article about the just announced iOS public 
beta program which 9to5Mac has written about and which is expected to start on 
March 11 with a public beta of iOS 8.3. This means I would expect that iOS 8.2 
will be released publically before then, but who knows, maybe iOS 8.2 will 
never become a public release and Apple will stick with 8.1.3 until the publick 
release of 8.3. They are definitely doing things differently and in any case, 
the majority of the new features in the 8.2 beta are about the upcoming Apple 
Watch. Once again Jonathan has blogged about an article which states that while 
iOS 9 which will be announced in a little over 3 months during Apple's world 
wide developer conference will of course have some new features, but focus will 
be heavily about squashing bugs and on getting iOS to be what it used to be, a 
platform which is rock solid, secure and which works well without a lot of 
bugs. I think we do have good things to look forward to th

is year and quite a few Voiceover users will most likely manage to be part of 
that group of 100,000 people who will get access to the iOS 8.3 and later iOS 9 
public beta. Yes, I know people have already asked how they can register for 
that, but I think we just have to wait until Apple announces this officially 
and those who do want to participate better be on the ball since I doubt that 
once Apple does take registrations it will take long for the 100,000 spots to 
be filled. It would actually be nice if Apple set aside 1% or so of these spots 
specifically for Voiceover users maybe by registration via Apple Accessibility, 
but I doubt that will happen and we will just have to compete with everybody 
else..



Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

I think most of the bugs have been exterminated. Besides that, I think Alex 
alone is worth upgrading for.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of major 
bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.

-eric


On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Hey Eric

What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait updating, if 
it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better upgrade then to the 
last version.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
To: Visually impaired phone users
Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

hello group,

I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question is 
this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of the 
voiceover issues have been resolved?

any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

-eric

--

RE: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Sieghard ,

I wish! They owe it to us. We bought a quality product we expect what you so 
well said

but focus will be heavily about squashing bugs and on getting iOS to be what it 
used to be, a platform which is rock solid, secure and which works well 

Ron & Danvers

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

Hi Devin,

A number of bugs have been fixed, but there also still are some annoying ones 
which have been present ever since the first iOS 8 beta release which means 
they have been reported to Apple now for 9 months and still are not fixed. One 
of these is the fact that you can't move most apps in the bottom row of the 
home screen (the one above the dock). I believe there are alsos till issues 
with Safari and the back button on web pages and a number of issues for braille 
users.

Apple has so far released 5 beta versions of iOS 8.2 and even though 8.2 is not 
even out yet to the public, iOS 8.3 Beta 1 has been released and 8.3 Beta 2 is 
expected next week. 8.3 Beta 1 seems to have fixed a few things, but other 
problems have been introduced so let's ope they get fixed soon.

Jonathan has written an excellent article about the just announced iOS public 
beta program which 9to5Mac has written about and which is expected to start on 
March 11 with a public beta of iOS 8.3. This means I would expect that iOS 8.2 
will be released publically before then, but who knows, maybe iOS 8.2 will 
never become a public release and Apple will stick with 8.1.3 until the publick 
release of 8.3. They are definitely doing things differently and in any case, 
the majority of the new features in the 8.2 beta are about the upcoming Apple 
Watch. Once again Jonathan has blogged about an article which states that while 
iOS 9 which will be announced in a little over 3 months during Apple's world 
wide developer conference will of course have some new features, but focus will 
be heavily about squashing bugs and on getting iOS to be what it used to be, a 
platform which is rock solid, secure and which works well without a lot of 
bugs. I think we do have good things to look forward to this year and quite a 
few Voiceover users will most likely manage to be part of that group of 100,000 
people who will get access to the iOS 8.3 and later iOS 9 public beta. Yes, I 
know people have already asked how they can register for that, but I think we 
just have to wait until Apple announces this officially and those who do want 
to participate better be on the ball since I doubt that once Apple does take 
registrations it will take long for the 100,000 spots to be filled. It would 
actually be nice if Apple set aside 1% or so of these spots specifically for 
Voiceover users maybe by registration via Apple Accessibility, but I doubt that 
will happen and we will just have to compete with everybody else..


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

I think most of the bugs have been exterminated. Besides that, I think Alex 
alone is worth upgrading for. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of major 
> bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Eric
>> 
>> What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait updating, 
>> if it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better upgrade then to 
>> the last version.
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
>> To: Visually impaired phone users
>> Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?
>> 
>> hello group,
>> 
>> I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
>> previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question 
>> is this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of 
>> the voiceover issues have been resolved?
>> 
>> any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> -eric
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Re: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[Wayne Merritt]

While this is concerning, I would be more interested to know if the
virtual apps that store reward cards are even accessible to blind/low
vision users. And if so, then how do you transfer your reward cards
from the individual apps to the one that stores them all? Finally,
anyone know of such an app to sore reward cards?

I realize that this thought is after the fact and may not help Mark,
but this is a good reason for having a case on your phone. Granted,
the employee shouldn't have dropped the phone in the first place, but
accidents happen.

Wayne

On 2/21/15, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> I could be wrong, but isn't the device the clerk uses to scan your rewards
> card on a cord?  Could you not just hold your phone out toward the clerk
> face up and they scan the screen of the phone that way?
> Like everybody else, I would be a little nervous just handing over my phone.
>  The way I do it now is, I just give the clerk my phone number and they pull
> up my rewards information that way.  To me, that is easy short and sweet!
>
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>
>> I thought I'd heard that there are kiosks you can use to bump your phone
>> against, similar to using AirDrop? I don't think I'd be comfortable
>> handing the device to someone, but I have to think that eventually things
>> will be set up so you can use a device and do it yourself.
>>
>> Teresa
>>
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing this. If using apple Pay or any of these smartphone
>>> payment options that are looming ever closer require me to pass my device
>>> to someone else, I'm not sure I'll ever use them. My electronics last a
>>> long time because I'm the one in control of them. There are just too many
>>> butterfingers in the world.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Feb 21, 2015, at 2:17 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

 Hello All,

 I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on
 my
 iPhone 6 Plus.

 The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay
 transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I
 find
 myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week,
 sometimes
 even more.

 The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the
 ability
 to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to
 install
 a store-specific app.

 Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of
 third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a
 passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across
 the
 web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to
 third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.

 Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering
 virtualizing
 all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as
 KeyRing
 or Stocards.

 Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on
 my
 phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.

 I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when,
 earlier
 today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her
 iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a
 store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.

 To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a
 convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good.
 The
 customer was, to put it mildly, furious.

 After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store
 reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a
 store
 employee.

 A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it
 to.

 Mark

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Re: bard question

[Wayne Merritt]

I haven't had any trouble deleting from the wish list or current books
I'm reading. I just deleted one yesterday with no issues. How are they
deleting the books?

Wayne

On 2/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> No, I haven't had any trouble, and I just deleted a few books the other
> day. Are they trying to delete something from the wish list by any
> chance? Connectivity issues may interfere with this.
>
> On 02/21/2015 07:17 AM, Patti Johnson wrote:
>> Has any one had trouble deleting books from the bard app?   Since I
>> don't use it I need to ask this for a friend who says she used to be
>> able to delete books but  can't now.
>> Any idea what is up with this?
>> Thanks,
>> Patti
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downloading using bit torrent on iPhone 6

[Larry McCreary]

Hello,
I would appreciate tips on downloading material using bit torrent.  I down’t 
understand how to initiate the download.  I have a key to authorize the 
download.
I would appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks much.

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Re: bard question

[Patti Johnson]

I don't know, she said she has done it before but the book won't delete now.
Patti
On 2/21/2015 12:40 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

I haven't had any trouble deleting from the wish list or current books
I'm reading. I just deleted one yesterday with no issues. How are they
deleting the books?

Wayne

On 2/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

No, I haven't had any trouble, and I just deleted a few books the other
day. Are they trying to delete something from the wish list by any
chance? Connectivity issues may interfere with this.

On 02/21/2015 07:17 AM, Patti Johnson wrote:

Has any one had trouble deleting books from the bard app?   Since I
don't use it I need to ask this for a friend who says she used to be
able to delete books but  can't now.
Any idea what is up with this?
Thanks,
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Re: How do you get the list of options to appear such as sync, eject etc

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Jen,

In iTunes, go to the File menu and choose Devices. All the options are listed 
there.

Best,
Anna


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> Hi, 
> I connected my phone to the computer to sync it today and when it was 
> finished, I couldn’t find the list of options to sync eject etc. 
> I ask, where are they? 
> Jen 
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Re: Following patterns

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Kim,

If you have access to a braille display, Lion -brand works fine. It breaks the 
instructions infto large chunks, though, so it would probably be unmanageable 
with only voiceover. 

Best,
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> Hi,
> 
> Is anyone here a knitter or chrocheter?  If so,what app do you use to read 
> and follow your patterns.  I've tried anumber of them and am not thrilled 
> with any of them.
> 
> If 
> Thanks,
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Re: bard question

[Marianne Denning]

I have not had any problems.  If she forgot, she needs to double tap
on the edit button, find the book she wants to delete and, I believe
swipe left until she hears delete and the title of the book she wants
to delete.  I usually have to double tap once and it says again delete
and the title.  When I double tap again the book is deleted.

On 2/21/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> I don't know, she said she has done it before but the book won't delete
> now.
> Patti
> On 2/21/2015 12:40 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> I haven't had any trouble deleting from the wish list or current books
>> I'm reading. I just deleted one yesterday with no issues. How are they
>> deleting the books?
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 2/21/15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> No, I haven't had any trouble, and I just deleted a few books the other
>>> day. Are they trying to delete something from the wish list by any
>>> chance? Connectivity issues may interfere with this.
>>>
>>> On 02/21/2015 07:17 AM, Patti Johnson wrote:
 Has any one had trouble deleting books from the bard app?   Since I
 don't use it I need to ask this for a friend who says she used to be
 able to delete books but  can't now.
 Any idea what is up with this?
 Thanks,
 Patti

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Re: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[David Chittenden]

No, Apple Pay requires you to touch your iPhone near / to the card terminal on 
the counter while activating the finger print reader in the home button.,

This case sounds like a rushed person handed an iPhone to a shop clerk so the 
clerk could get the details of a shop coupon.

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> On 22 Feb 2015, at 03:45, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mark, 
> 
> Thanks for sharing this. If using apple Pay or any of these smartphone 
> payment options that are looming ever closer require me to pass my device to 
> someone else, I'm not sure I'll ever use them. My electronics last a long 
> time because I'm the one in control of them. There are just too many 
> butterfingers in the world. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 2:17 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on my
>> iPhone 6 Plus.
>> 
>> The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay
>> transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I find
>> myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week, sometimes
>> even more.  
>> 
>> The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the ability
>> to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to install
>> a store-specific app.
>> 
>> Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of
>> third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a
>> passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across the
>> web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to
>> third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.
>> 
>> Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering virtualizing
>> all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as KeyRing
>> or Stocards.  
>> 
>> Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on my
>> phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.  
>> 
>> I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when, earlier
>> today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her
>> iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a
>> store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.
>> 
>> To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a
>> convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good. The
>> customer was, to put it mildly, furious.  
>> 
>> After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store
>> reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a store
>> employee.  
>> 
>> A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it to.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: bard question

[Alan J Paganelli]

In the Bard app, to edit books you no longer want, in the top right hand 
corner of the book shelf is an edit button.  You have to double tap that 
first.  Then you can delete unwanted books with the flick up to delete 
gesture.





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-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard question

No, I haven't had any trouble, and I just deleted a few books the other
day. Are they trying to delete something from the wish list by any
chance? Connectivity issues may interfere with this.

On 02/21/2015 07:17 AM, Patti Johnson wrote:

Has any one had trouble deleting books from the bard app?   Since I
don't use it I need to ask this for a friend who says she used to be
able to delete books but  can't now.
Any idea what is up with this?
Thanks,
Patti



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Re: very bad fb app update

[Alan J Paganelli]

I’m not experiencing any problems with it either.


Regards,
Alan
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available upon request. Thanks for listening!


From: Teresa Cochran 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 6:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: very bad fb app update

That's very strange. I'm not experiencing any crashes with FB. I must be lucky.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:52 AM, jazzyjennifer  wrote:


  yeah my fb app keeps crashing too. i hate that, when you find a good app that 
works. and they turn around and up date it and brake it.

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Re: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes the description below is exactly how it’s done at Starbucks for instance if 
one is scanning their starbucks card from their app.  Hold the phone up clerk 
swipes a device past the face of the phone which is towards them but it never 
leaves the owner’s hand.
I would be very surprised if other equipment configurations would be different 
necessitating the handing over of a device; nor would I ever consent to doing 
such myself.

Robin


From: Chris Chaffin 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You 
Hand It To

I could be wrong, but isn't the device the clerk uses to scan your rewards card 
on a cord?  Could you not just hold your phone out toward the clerk face up and 
they scan the screen of the phone that way?
Like everybody else, I would be a little nervous just handing over my phone.  
The way I do it now is, I just give the clerk my phone number and they pull up 
my rewards information that way.  To me, that is easy short and sweet!

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:


  I thought I'd heard that there are kiosks you can use to bump your phone 
against, similar to using AirDrop? I don't think I'd be comfortable handing the 
device to someone, but I have to think that eventually things will be set up so 
you can use a device and do it yourself.

  Teresa

  "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

  On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Mark, 

Thanks for sharing this. If using apple Pay or any of these smartphone 
payment options that are looming ever closer require me to pass my device to 
someone else, I'm not sure I'll ever use them. My electronics last a long time 
because I'm the one in control of them. There are just too many butterfingers 
in the world. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


  On Feb 21, 2015, at 2:17 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:



  Hello All,



  I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on my

  iPhone 6 Plus.



  The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay

  transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I find

  myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week, sometimes

  even more.  



  The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the ability

  to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to 
install

  a store-specific app.



  Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of

  third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a

  passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across the

  web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to

  third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.



  Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering 
virtualizing

  all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as KeyRing

  or Stocards.  



  Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on my

  phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.  



  I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when, earlier

  today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her

  iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a

  store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.



  To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a

  convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good. 
The

  customer was, to put it mildly, furious.  



  After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store

  reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a store

  employee.  



  A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it 
to.



  Mark



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Re: Talking atlas for iPad

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I volunteer for that one! I'd love to try that app but also think it's too 
expensive 

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:38 AM, RobH.  wrote:
> 
> Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to pay that 
> much until someone says it works as well as they say on the site, and even 
> on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're all looking for a 
> volunteer with £30 to spare for trying this product.
> Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to try it 
> and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how much control 
> of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent £3/$5 each, it would be worth that 
> to know the answer maybe?
> 
> 
> JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination with 
> geography.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Nancy Badger" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
> Subject: Talking atlas for iPad
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has had 
> any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to buy it until 
> I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so expensive. 
> Thanks for any help.
> Nancy
> 
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Re: very bad fb app update

[Donna]

I am having no problems with the latest Facebook update. 
Donna


> On Feb 21, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Alan J Paganelli  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m not experiencing any problems with it either.
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
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> a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
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> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
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> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
> available upon request. Thanks for listening!
>  
> From: Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 6:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: very bad fb app update
>  
> That's very strange. I'm not experiencing any crashes with FB. I must be 
> lucky.
>  
> Teresa
> 
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
> the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:52 AM, jazzyjennifer  wrote:
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>> yeah my fb app keeps crashing too. i hate that, when you find a good app 
>> that works. and they turn around and up date it and brake it.
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How do I add my email outlook 2010 contacts to my contacts in my iPhone 5c

[John Christie]

How Do I add my email Outlook contacts to my iPhone 5c using Windows 7 and
Outlook 2010? I have both ITunes and iCloud on my computer. Thanks allot and
have a good day.

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Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Charles Rivard]

Only 1 percent?  I'd prefer 5.

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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?


Hi Devin,

A number of bugs have been fixed, but there also still are some annoying 
ones which have been present ever since the first iOS 8 beta release which 
means they have been reported to Apple now for 9 months and still are not 
fixed. One of these is the fact that you can't move most apps in the bottom 
row of the home screen (the one above the dock). I believe there are alsos 
till issues with Safari and the back button on web pages and a number of 
issues for braille users.


Apple has so far released 5 beta versions of iOS 8.2 and even though 8.2 is 
not even out yet to the public, iOS 8.3 Beta 1 has been released and 8.3 
Beta 2 is expected next week. 8.3 Beta 1 seems to have fixed a few things, 
but other problems have been introduced so let's ope they get fixed soon.


Jonathan has written an excellent article about the just announced iOS 
public beta program which 9to5Mac has written about and which is expected to 
start on March 11 with a public beta of iOS 8.3. This means I would expect 
that iOS 8.2 will be released publically before then, but who knows, maybe 
iOS 8.2 will never become a public release and Apple will stick with 8.1.3 
until the publick release of 8.3. They are definitely doing things 
differently and in any case, the majority of the new features in the 8.2 
beta are about the upcoming Apple Watch. Once again Jonathan has blogged 
about an article which states that while iOS 9 which will be announced in a 
little over 3 months during Apple's world wide developer conference will of 
course have some new features, but focus will be heavily about squashing 
bugs and on getting iOS to be what it used to be, a platform which is rock 
solid, secure and which works well without a lot of bugs. I think we do have 
good things to look forward to this year and quite a few Voiceover users 
will most likely manage to be part of that group of 100,000 people who will 
get access to the iOS 8.3 and later iOS 9 public beta. Yes, I know people 
have already asked how they can register for that, but I think we just have 
to wait until Apple announces this officially and those who do want to 
participate better be on the ball since I doubt that once Apple does take 
registrations it will take long for the 100,000 spots to be filled. It would 
actually be nice if Apple set aside 1% or so of these spots specifically for 
Voiceover users maybe by registration via Apple Accessibility, but I doubt 
that will happen and we will just have to compete with everybody else..



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Devin Prater

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

I think most of the bugs have been exterminated. Besides that, I think Alex 
alone is worth upgrading for.


Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of 
major bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.


-eric


On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Hey Eric

What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait 
updating, if it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better 
upgrade then to the last version.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
To: Visually impaired phone users
Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

hello group,

I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw 
in previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my 
question is this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? 
How many of the voiceover issues have been resolved?


any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

-eric

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RE: Talking atlas for iPad

[Neal Ewers]

I would try it, but I am not sure it works on the iPhone. It only mentions 
iPad, etc.

Neal


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad

I volunteer for that one! I'd love to try that app but also think it's too 
expensive 

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:38 AM, RobH.  wrote:
> 
> Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to 
> pay that much until someone says it works as well as they say on the 
> site, and even on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're 
> all looking for a volunteer with  30 to spare for trying this product.
> Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to 
> try it and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how 
> much control of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent  3/$5 each, it 
> would be worth that to know the answer maybe?
> 
> 
> JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination 
> with geography.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nancy Badger" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
> Subject: Talking atlas for iPad
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has 
> had any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to 
> buy it until I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so 
> expensive.
> Thanks for any help.
> Nancy
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Saving documents in icloud in voice dream writer

[Andrew Lamanche]

Listers,

What is your experience of saving documents into icloud in voice dream writer?  
I assumed since this facility existed that I could save a document into iCloud 
and once it's saved, I could then open it on my mac or another iDevice, add 
some text, and then open it again in voice dream writer.  But this doesn't seem 
to be the case.  Voice dream writer saves versions of the document in icloud 
giving them numbers after the name but I can't open them on my mac to edit them 
or add content.  I am also struggling to find a way of closing a document in 
voice dream writer.  There doesn't seem to be a way of doing so at all.  I am 
struggling to understand how icloud function is supposed to work in voice dream 
writer.  I've read the help file but it doesn't seem to make things clear. I 
wrote to the developer a few days ago but as yet I've not heard.

Andrew

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Re: downloading using bit torrent on iPhone 6

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

Not possible on iOS unless you're jailbroken unfortunately. There are
some websites that have web based torrent clients but IMO they're more
hassle than they're worth.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/21/15, Larry McCreary  wrote:
> Hello,
> I would appreciate tips on downloading material using bit torrent.  I down’t
> understand how to initiate the download.  I have a key to authorize the
> download.
> I would appreciate any suggestions.
> Thanks much.
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RE: Talking atlas for iPad

[Neal Ewers]

For those who wonder if this is accessible, I'm guessing some of you have read 
the applevis blurb. If not, here it is. You may not be able to get more 
accessible than this.

Accessibility Comments: 

totally accessible app. self voicing. with gestures, external keyboard and 
labelled buttons.

VoiceOver Performance: 

VoiceOver reads all page elements.

Button Labeling: 

All buttons are clearly labeled.

Usability: 

The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver and is easy to navigate and use.

My only question is this. If it is a self voicing app and VoiceOver works well 
with it, when would one use VoiceOver and when the self voicing part of the app?

Neal

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I would try it, but I am not sure it works on the iPhone. It only mentions 
iPad, etc.

Neal


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John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad

I volunteer for that one! I'd love to try that app but also think it's too 
expensive 

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:38 AM, RobH.  wrote:
> 
> Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to 
> pay that much until someone says it works as well as they say on the 
> site, and even on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're 
> all looking for a volunteer with  30 to spare for trying this product.
> Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to 
> try it and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how 
> much control of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent  3/$5 each, it 
> would be worth that to know the answer maybe?
> 
> 
> JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination 
> with geography.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nancy Badger" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
> Subject: Talking atlas for iPad
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has 
> had any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to 
> buy it until I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so 
> expensive.
> Thanks for any help.
> Nancy
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Velasense technology may be a big jump for people who are blind, etc.

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
As Neal Ewers said, 
"Hi, this is a suite of products in one app that allows people to do a number 
of things like get directions, do facial recognition, read bar codes and much 
more. I think it is currently only on Verizon, but I may well be wrong about 
that. I am told by someone at Verizon that this is now on Android and will be 
ported to Apple devices."





 

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  From: Devin Prater 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 9:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Velasense technology may be a big jump for people who are blind, 
etc.


  What exactly  will this provide, and will this be for iOS or not?

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 20, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:


Hi. Back in June, 2012, I was part of a focus group that got to test a 
suite of apps that were running on Verizon Android phones, and though I thought 
the app suite was a nice concept and was pretty cool, I wasn't wowed by it. At 
the CSUN conference in 2013, I became aware that this suite was to be called 
Velasense and I had a chance to test it again; in fact, I've been in regular 
contact with one of the developers ever since and have met with him to check it 
out and see how it's evolved. Today, I met with that same developer and one of 
his teammates to see the release candidate for Velasense which will roll out 
very soon. As a confirmed Apple/IOS/Voiceover fan, I have to say that what I 
saw of Velasense was pretty darn impressive.  To be sure, there are still some 
things that need to be tightened up and some usability tweaks that could be 
implemented, but the developers showed me and my coworker that they're very 
committed to developing a good, solid package and that they're really 
responsive to end-user feedback. Would I switch to the package after  it rolls 
out? No, not right away at least; I've got too much time and money invested to 
throw away my iPhone 6 and all the apps that I've bought over the past five 
years. Until today, I've been telling my students who are struggling  and 
frustrated with Android phones and Talkback to scrap what they've got and 
switch to Apple. Now, if they're already on Verizon, and they have a decent 
phone, especially something like the Galaxy S5, they don't have to switch; they 
will soon be able to go to the Google Play store or whatever it's called, 
download and install Velasense, run the quick tutorial and get right into 
Velasense fairly quickly. Just as there are alternatives to JAWS or 
Window-Eyes, Velasense  could represent a viable alternative to the Apple 
ecosystem, and healthy competition is always a good thing in my view.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Neal Ewers  wrote:


  Hi, this is a suite of products in one app that allows people to do a 
number of things like get directions, do facial recognition, read bar codes and 
much more. I think it is currently only on Verizon, but I may well be wrong 
about that. I am told by someone at Verizon that this is now on Android and 
will be ported to Apple devices.



  There are two links below.



  First is a short video that gives you information about what this app 
does. The second is a short description of the app.



  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Y7Dk_Lysg 



  A limited description can be found at

  http://www.velasense.com/ 





  Neal




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RE: How do I add my email outlook 2010 contacts to my contacts in my iPhone 5c

[Rob]

There are check boxes in iTunes to indicate whether you want to sync your 
contacts, calendar, etc.  Check the ones you want.  Then sync your iPhone with 
your PC.

Rob

 

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Subject: How do I add my email outlook 2010 contacts to my contacts in my 
iPhone 5c

 

How Do I add my email Outlook contacts to my iPhone 5c using Windows 7 and 
Outlook 2010? I have both ITunes and iCloud on my computer. Thanks allot and 
have a good day.

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exporting from Voice Notes app?

[Charles Rivard]

I've made a few experimental podcasts that I'd like to transfer from the Voice 
Notes app on my iPhone 6 onto my PC for editing.  Is there a way to do this?  
Or, how accessible, and how are the trimming and editing features of Voice 
Notes used?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: Talking atlas for iPad

[RobH.]

A very good question, and hoping someone finds out so the rest of us can 
take the plunge.
- Original Message - 
From: "Neal Ewers" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: Talking atlas for iPad


For those who wonder if this is accessible, I'm guessing some of you have 
read the applevis blurb. If not, here it is. You may not be able to get more 
accessible than this.

Accessibility Comments:

totally accessible app. self voicing. with gestures, external keyboard and 
labelled buttons.

VoiceOver Performance:

VoiceOver reads all page elements.

Button Labeling:

All buttons are clearly labeled.

Usability:

The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver and is easy to navigate and use.

My only question is this. If it is a self voicing app and VoiceOver works 
well with it, when would one use VoiceOver and when the self voicing part of 
the app?

Neal

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Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking atlas for iPad

I would try it, but I am not sure it works on the iPhone. It only mentions 
iPad, etc.

Neal


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad

I volunteer for that one! I'd love to try that app but also think it's too 
expensive

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:38 AM, RobH.  wrote:
>
> Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to
> pay that much until someone says it works as well as they say on the
> site, and even on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're
> all looking for a volunteer with  30 to spare for trying this product.
> Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to
> try it and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how
> much control of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent  3/$5 each, it
> would be worth that to know the answer maybe?
>
>
> JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination
> with geography.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nancy Badger" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
> Subject: Talking atlas for iPad
>
>
> Hello,
> I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has
> had any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to
> buy it until I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so 
> expensive.
> Thanks for any help.
> Nancy
>
> Sent from my iPad
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RE: Talking atlas for iPad

[Jim Ruby]

I thought if you searched for an app in the app store on your iphone if an app 
was not compatible it would not show up or give you a warning and not install.

Keep in mind apple gives you two weeks to try a product, but I think the price 
is to high and on top of that in app purchases for a trivia game? For that 
price you should get both.

Just my opinion.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
RobH.
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad

Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to pay that 
much until someone says it works as well as they say on the site, and even 
on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're all looking for a 
volunteer with £30 to spare for trying this product.
Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to try it 
and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how much control 
of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent £3/$5 each, it would be worth that 
to know the answer maybe?


JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination with 
geography.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nancy Badger" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
Subject: Talking atlas for iPad


Hello,
I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has had 
any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to buy it until 
I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so expensive. 
Thanks for any help.
Nancy

Sent from my iPad

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Re: Saving documents in icloud in voice dream writer

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Andrew,

I've been able to do just as you say - open a file in Writer, make changes, 
then open that file on my computer and edit. I've also started a file on the 
computer and opened it in Writer. I wonder if you have multiple edits and might 
have better luck if you deleted all but the most recent one.

I have had a problem where the last thing I typed in Writer wasn't saved. I 
wish there was a way to close a file when I'm done with it in Writer, but the 
only option seems to be opening a different file.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Best,
Anna



> On Feb 21, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> What is your experience of saving documents into icloud in voice dream 
> writer?  I assumed since this facility existed that I could save a document 
> into iCloud and once it's saved, I could then open it on my mac or another 
> iDevice, add some text, and then open it again in voice dream writer.  But 
> this doesn't seem to be the case.  Voice dream writer saves versions of the 
> document in icloud giving them numbers after the name but I can't open them 
> on my mac to edit them or add content.  I am also struggling to find a way of 
> closing a document in voice dream writer.  There doesn't seem to be a way of 
> doing so at all.  I am struggling to understand how icloud function is 
> supposed to work in voice dream writer.  I've read the help file but it 
> doesn't seem to make things clear. I wrote to the developer a few days ago 
> but as yet I've not heard.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Read2Go vs Voice Dream for Periodicals (was: Help with Bookshare)

[leliastr...@gmail.com]

Would I be correct in saying that you cannot use voice dream reader with a 
braille display? I know I tried it before and it didn't work that well. But I 
could be wrong. Just curious

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I know that the android version of the book share platform downloads new 
> versions or days of newspapers automatically but I don't know if the iOS 
> version does too. Perhaps this would be a good feature request for 
> voicedream. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, because I never read periodicals, what does Read2Go do 
>> that makes it easier to read newspapers in than Voice Dream Reader? I've 
>> heard one or two other people say the same thing, but I can't figure out 
>> just what the advantage is. Thanks.
>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Jane  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is also another app out there called Voice Dream Reaer. I use that in 
>>> conjunction with Read2Go. I use Read2Go for newspapers, and Voice Dream for 
>>> everything else.
>>> 
>>> Voice Dream lets me read much more quickly--also, you can save the library 
>>> to your computer, meaning you never loose your books--unlike with Read2Go. 
>>> If something goes wrong and you have to re-install Read2Go, your downloaded 
>>> materials are gone. Not so with Voice Dream Reader, as long as you remember 
>>> to save the library.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I use this app all the time. First you have to decide if you want to read 
 with voiceover or if you want to read with the audio inside the app. You 
 need to choose this in settings. If you choose the audio inside the app, 
 there is a play/pause button in the middleof the very bottom of the page. 
 Double tap it and it will start playing and read continually. You only 
 have to press the next page but if for some reason you want to skip to the 
 next page or if you are reading in voiceover. I hope this makes sense. Let 
 me know if you have other questions.
 Nancy
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:48 PM, amber8844 .  wrote:
> 
> Hello list members Please could some of you on this list help me out?
> I have just now joined bookshare and I purchased the read to go app.
> Are there any tutorials? Is there any way to read several pages at the
> time or do you have to click on next page?
> If there any tips that any one has it will be very appreciated.
> By the way I am using Ipad air. You may contact me off list if you
> like. Thanks in advance.
> Janie
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RE: Talking atlas for iPad

[Neal Ewers]

Ah Jim, What a capital idea. You're right. I searched for it on my iPhone and 
it did not show up. I guess that answers that. I tried it with and without a 
space between the words and the list was blank.

Neal




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Ruby
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking atlas for iPad

I thought if you searched for an app in the app store on your iphone if an app 
was not compatible it would not show up or give you a warning and not install.

Keep in mind apple gives you two weeks to try a product, but I think the price 
is to high and on top of that in app purchases for a trivia game? For that 
price you should get both.

Just my opinion.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
RobH.
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad

Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to pay that 
much until someone says it works as well as they say on the site, and even on 
Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're all looking for a volunteer 
with  30 to spare for trying this product.
Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to try it and 
report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how much control of 
amount one has;  but if ten of us sent  3/$5 each, it would be worth that to 
know the answer maybe?


JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination with 
geography.
- Original Message -
From: "Nancy Badger" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
Subject: Talking atlas for iPad


Hello,
I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has had any 
experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to buy it until I find 
some one who has had experience with it since it is so expensive. 
Thanks for any help.
Nancy

Sent from my iPad

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Re: Read2Go vs Voice Dream for Periodicals (was: Help with Bookshare)

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Lelia,

You can use a braille display with Voice Dream Reader. The only problem is that 
when you switch screens, you see a percentage of where you are in the file, and 
you have to wait a couple of seconds for it to go away. So it’s annoying, but 
usable.

Best,
Anna


> On Feb 21, 2015, at 4:54 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
> 
> Would I be correct in saying that you cannot use voice dream reader with a 
> braille display? I know I tried it before and it didn't work that well. But I 
> could be wrong. Just curious
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Devin Prater  > wrote:
> 
>> I know that the android version of the book share platform downloads new 
>> versions or days of newspapers automatically but I don't know if the iOS 
>> version does too. Perhaps this would be a good feature request for 
>> voicedream. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Out of curiosity, because I never read periodicals, what does Read2Go do 
>>> that makes it easier to read newspapers in than Voice Dream Reader? I've 
>>> heard one or two other people say the same thing, but I can't figure out 
>>> just what the advantage is. Thanks.
 On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Jane >>> > wrote:
 
 There is also another app out there called Voice Dream Reaer. I use that 
 in conjunction with Read2Go. I use Read2Go for newspapers, and Voice Dream 
 for everything else.
 
 Voice Dream lets me read much more quickly--also, you can save the library 
 to your computer, meaning you never loose your books--unlike with Read2Go. 
 If something goes wrong and you have to re-install Read2Go, your 
 downloaded materials are gone. Not so with Voice Dream Reader, as long as 
 you remember to save the library.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Nancy Badger  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I use this app all the time. First you have to decide if you want to read 
> with voiceover or if you want to read with the audio inside the app. You 
> need to choose this in settings. If you choose the audio inside the app, 
> there is a play/pause button in the middleof the very bottom of the page. 
> Double tap it and it will start playing and read continually. You only 
> have to press the next page but if for some reason you want to skip to 
> the next page or if you are reading in voiceover. I hope this makes 
> sense. Let me know if you have other questions.
> Nancy
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:48 PM, amber8844 . > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list members Please could some of you on this list help me out?
>> I have just now joined bookshare and I purchased the read to go app.
>> Are there any tutorials? Is there any way to read several pages at the
>> time or do you have to click on next page?
>> If there any tips that any one has it will be very appreciated.
>> By the way I am using Ipad air. You may contact me off list if you
>> like. Thanks in advance.
>> Janie
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iPhone not speaking properly

[KristeenHughes]

My iPhone 6 with the latest iOS was working properly earlier today. I locked it 
and set it aside. When I tried to use it awhile ago, it would not speak to me 
when pressing the home button or the power button to unlock it. I have no 
sounds unless I press and hold the home button. Then I get Siri and sometimes 
the VO message that says, “tap to start Siri”, but when I then press the home 
key again so that I can unlock the phone, all is silent, no VO, no beeps or 
clicks.

I can’t reboot the phone. It will not allow it.

I connected it to my computer and all looks okay. I then ejected it and 
unplugged it and all is the same. Siri is now not available because my pass 
code is needed after a restart, but since there is no speech, I can’t enter it. 
Pressing the home key results in silence. When I connect the iPhone there isn’t 
the usual connecting sound.

I have connected it to the computer again because I want to restore it, but I 
can’t do that because it says I have to turn off the “find my iPhone” from the 
phone, which I can’t manage without speech. Am I stuck, or is there something 
else I can do that doesn’t require sighted assistance?

Thanks.

Kristeen

.  an

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Seri

[Donna]

Hi All,

I'm trying to help a friend who is a new iPhone user setup her iPhone. We are 
corresponding by email. 

Can someone refresh my memory; when a person has a new out of the box iPhone, 
is Seri already turned on? If not, is there an easy to turn Seri on without 
having to first go into settings. 

Hoping to be able to make things easy for me and my friend before frustration 
takes over. 

Thanks in advance. 

Donna

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RE: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[Rose Combs]

Well, that is one worry I don't have, since I can't get a fingerprint on my 6 
and have tried more than once, Apple pay and reward are out for me, and give me 
no reason to hand my phone to a clerk!  


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M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand 
It To

Hello All,

I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on my
iPhone 6 Plus.

The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay
transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I find
myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week, sometimes
even more.  

The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the ability
to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to install
a store-specific app.

Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of
third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a
passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across the
web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to
third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.

Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering virtualizing
all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as KeyRing
or Stocards.  

Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on my
phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.  

I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when, earlier
today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her
iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a
store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.

To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a
convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good. The
customer was, to put it mildly, furious.  

After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store
reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a store
employee.  

A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it to.

Mark

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RE: very bad fb app update

[Rose Combs]

Well I can read about 10 to 15 stories and then mine crashes also but that is 
nothing new has been that way forever for me.  


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jazzyjennifer
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Subject: Re: very bad fb app update

yeah my fb app keeps crashing too. i hate that, when you find a good app 
that works. and they turn around and up date it and brake it.

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Re: Seri

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

It depends on what you mean by out of the box. If you've gone through
the setup process and enabled Siri then yes, it's on. If the phone is
sitting at the setup screen and you're wanting to use Siri to launch
VoiceOver then it may or may not work depending on the SIM. Best to
give it a go and see what happens, alternatively if the aim is to turn
VO on you could give tripple click home a go.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/21/15, Donna  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm trying to help a friend who is a new iPhone user setup her iPhone. We
> are corresponding by email.
>
> Can someone refresh my memory; when a person has a new out of the box
> iPhone, is Seri already turned on? If not, is there an easy to turn Seri on
> without having to first go into settings.
>
> Hoping to be able to make things easy for me and my friend before
> frustration takes over.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Donna
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Re: iPhone not speaking properly

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

Have you tried pressing the home button once to get to the lock screen
then doing tripple click home? If you can hear VO sounds but no
speech, try a three finger double tap. What happens when you try to
reboot the phone?

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/21/15, KristeenHughes  wrote:
> My iPhone 6 with the latest iOS was working properly earlier today. I locked
> it and set it aside. When I tried to use it awhile ago, it would not speak
> to me when pressing the home button or the power button to unlock it. I have
> no sounds unless I press and hold the home button. Then I get Siri and
> sometimes the VO message that says, “tap to start Siri”, but when I then
> press the home key again so that I can unlock the phone, all is silent, no
> VO, no beeps or clicks.
>
> I can’t reboot the phone. It will not allow it.
>
> I connected it to my computer and all looks okay. I then ejected it and
> unplugged it and all is the same. Siri is now not available because my pass
> code is needed after a restart, but since there is no speech, I can’t enter
> it. Pressing the home key results in silence. When I connect the iPhone
> there isn’t the usual connecting sound.
>
> I have connected it to the computer again because I want to restore it, but
> I can’t do that because it says I have to turn off the “find my iPhone” from
> the phone, which I can’t manage without speech. Am I stuck, or is there
> something else I can do that doesn’t require sighted assistance?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kristeen
>
> .  an
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Re: Talking atlas for iPad

[Andy Baracco]

iPhone apps will work on the iPad, but not vice versa.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Neal Ewers

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking atlas for iPad

I would try it, but I am not sure it works on the iPhone. It only mentions 
iPad, etc.


Neal


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of John Diakogeorgiou

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad

I volunteer for that one! I'd love to try that app but also think it's too 
expensive


John Diakogeorgiou


On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:38 AM, RobH.  wrote:

Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to
pay that much until someone says it works as well as they say on the
site, and even on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're
all looking for a volunteer with  30 to spare for trying this product.
Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to
try it and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how
much control of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent  3/$5 each, it
would be worth that to know the answer maybe?


JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination
with geography.
- Original Message -
From: "Nancy Badger" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
Subject: Talking atlas for iPad


Hello,
I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has
had any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to
buy it until I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so 
expensive.

Thanks for any help.
Nancy

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Re: Seri

[Charles Rivard]

Plug the iPhone into the charger, and the charger into the wall, or plug the 
charging cable into the computer's USB port and wait for a minute or so. 
Then press the home button 3 times quickly.  Voice-Over should come on.  You 
have to go into settings, then into general settings, then into Siri 
settings after Voice-Over has started if you cannot see what's on the 
screen.  HTH.


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Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:54 PM
Subject: Seri


Hi All,

I'm trying to help a friend who is a new iPhone user setup her iPhone. We 
are corresponding by email.


Can someone refresh my memory; when a person has a new out of the box 
iPhone, is Seri already turned on? If not, is there an easy to turn Seri on 
without having to first go into settings.


Hoping to be able to make things easy for me and my friend before 
frustration takes over.


Thanks in advance.

Donna

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Sound Distortion on Downcast

[Joe]

Hi, for some reason I'm getting sound distortion on Downcast. The volume
comes off much louder than my iPhone system volume even though it's at
something like 50%. I'm sure it's user error, but I'm not sure how to turn
up the Downcast volume to something comfortable that does not mess with
Voiceover volume. Hope that makes sense? Thanks in advance for any
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Re: iPhone not speaking properly

[Alex Hall]

Tell Siri to "turn VoiceOver on". I know it needs that passcode, but if you 
remember where the buttons are, you should be able to enter it by feel alone. 
I've had to do that in the past, and it's certainly doable. I doubt you need to 
restore anything, just get Siri up and then tell it to turn VoiceOver on. You 
could also try disabling VoiceOver through iTunes, syncing, then re-enabling it 
and syncing again. I've never tried that, but it beats a full restore.
> On Feb 21, 2015, at 6:44 PM, KristeenHughes  wrote:
> 
> My iPhone 6 with the latest iOS was working properly earlier today. I locked 
> it and set it aside. When I tried to use it awhile ago, it would not speak to 
> me when pressing the home button or the power button to unlock it. I have no 
> sounds unless I press and hold the home button. Then I get Siri and sometimes 
> the VO message that says, “tap to start Siri”, but when I then press the home 
> key again so that I can unlock the phone, all is silent, no VO, no beeps or 
> clicks.
> 
> I can’t reboot the phone. It will not allow it.
> 
> I connected it to my computer and all looks okay. I then ejected it and 
> unplugged it and all is the same. Siri is now not available because my pass 
> code is needed after a restart, but since there is no speech, I can’t enter 
> it. Pressing the home key results in silence. When I connect the iPhone there 
> isn’t the usual connecting sound.
> 
> I have connected it to the computer again because I want to restore it, but I 
> can’t do that because it says I have to turn off the “find my iPhone” from 
> the phone, which I can’t manage without speech. Am I stuck, or is there 
> something else I can do that doesn’t require sighted assistance?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> .  an
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Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

[Mary Anne Lynskey]

Yeah, forget about the stupid watch and get back to business instead of 
pushing that stupid watch all over the media. You know, I used my iPod 
3rd generation the other day to play D W. It is iOS 6, still marvelous. 
Let's hope that Steve sends down some kick-butt inspiration to these 
guys to get things to where they used to be.


Mary Anne
On 2/21/2015 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Devin,

A number of bugs have been fixed, but there also still are some annoying ones 
which have been present ever since the first iOS 8 beta release which means 
they have been reported to Apple now for 9 months and still are not fixed. One 
of these is the fact that you can't move most apps in the bottom row of the 
home screen (the one above the dock). I believe there are alsos till issues 
with Safari and the back button on web pages and a number of issues for braille 
users.

Apple has so far released 5 beta versions of iOS 8.2 and even though 8.2 is not 
even out yet to the public, iOS 8.3 Beta 1 has been released and 8.3 Beta 2 is 
expected next week. 8.3 Beta 1 seems to have fixed a few things, but other 
problems have been introduced so let's ope they get fixed soon.

Jonathan has written an excellent article about the just announced iOS public 
beta program which 9to5Mac has written about and which is expected to start on 
March 11 with a public beta of iOS 8.3. This means I would expect that iOS 8.2 
will be released publically before then, but who knows, maybe iOS 8.2 will 
never become a public release and Apple will stick with 8.1.3 until the publick 
release of 8.3. They are definitely doing things differently and in any case, 
the majority of the new features in the 8.2 beta are about the upcoming Apple 
Watch. Once again Jonathan has blogged about an article which states that while 
iOS 9 which will be announced in a little over 3 months during Apple's world 
wide developer conference will of course have some new features, but focus will 
be heavily about squashing bugs and on getting iOS to be what it used to be, a 
platform which is rock solid, secure and which works well without a lot of 
bugs. I think we do have good things to look forward to this year and quite a 
few Voiceover users will most likely manage to be part of that group of 100,000 
people who will get access to the iOS 8.3 and later iOS 9 public beta. Yes, I 
know people have already asked how they can register for that, but I think we 
just have to wait until Apple announces this officially and those who do want 
to participate better be on the ball since I doubt that once Apple does take 
registrations it will take long for the 100,000 spots to be filled. It would 
actually be nice if Apple set aside 1% or so of these spots specifically for 
Voiceover users maybe by registration via Apple Accessibility, but I doubt that 
will happen and we will just have to compete with everybody else..


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

I think most of the bugs have been exterminated. Besides that, I think Alex 
alone is worth upgrading for.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of major 
bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.

-eric


On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Hey Eric

What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait updating, if 
it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better upgrade then to the 
last version.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
To: Visually impaired phone users
Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

hello group,

I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question is 
this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of the 
voiceover issues have been resolved?

any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

-eric

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Re: Cataguggle

[Mary Anne Lynskey]

It was such a charming pod cast. Just love listening to her play the game!
On 2/21/2015 12:40 AM, leliastr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Marianne, the young lady's name is Lulu

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 20, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey  wrote:

I found a podcast where a charming woman described playing cataguggle. I'd like 
to know who that was so that I can challenge, not that I am very goo. I have a 
question though. Sometimes I lose the music after winding up to get the 
cataguggle to fly and don't know why or how this happens. Any help?

I had to grin because the game is rated for ages 4 through 8 or something 
like that. But it's a stress reliever and besides, I can't grow up!

Mary Anne

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Re: Talking atlas for iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

There's some confusion over searching in the App Store. If you double 
tap the search button then what you say may be true, but this isn't the 
same as looking for the suggestion that you get when you just start 
typing in the search field.


Also, the two week return policy you refer to doesn't apply to downloads 
from the App Store. Here's a link to Apple's official return policy 
http://store.apple.com/us/help/returns_refund


On 02/21/2015 04:27 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:

I thought if you searched for an app in the app store on your iphone if an app 
was not compatible it would not show up or give you a warning and not install.

Keep in mind apple gives you two weeks to try a product, but I think the price 
is to high and on top of that in app purchases for a trivia game? For that 
price you should get both.

Just my opinion.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
RobH.
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad

Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to pay that
much until someone says it works as well as they say on the site, and even
on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're all looking for a
volunteer with £30 to spare for trying this product.
Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to try it
and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how much control
of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent £3/$5 each, it would be worth that
to know the answer maybe?


JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination with
geography.
- Original Message -
From: "Nancy Badger" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
Subject: Talking atlas for iPad


Hello,
I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has had
any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to buy it until
I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so expensive.
Thanks for any help.
Nancy

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Re: Read2Go vs Voice Dream for Periodicals (was: Help with Bookshare)

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Anna, I've gotten into the habit of pressing a cursor routing key when that 
percentage comes up. That makes it disappear and I can get on with reading just 
a bit more quickly. 
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 22/02/2015, at 12:23 pm, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Lelia,
> 
> You can use a braille display with Voice Dream Reader. The only problem is 
> that when you switch screens, you see a percentage of where you are in the 
> file, and you have to wait a couple of seconds for it to go away. So it’s 
> annoying, but usable.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 4:54 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com 
>>  > > wrote:
>> 
>> Would I be correct in saying that you cannot use voice dream reader with a 
>> braille display? I know I tried it before and it didn't work that well. But 
>> I could be wrong. Just curious
>> 
>> Lelia 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Devin Prater > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I know that the android version of the book share platform downloads new 
>>> versions or days of newspapers automatically but I don't know if the iOS 
>>> version does too. Perhaps this would be a good feature request for 
>>> voicedream. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Out of curiosity, because I never read periodicals, what does Read2Go do 
 that makes it easier to read newspapers in than Voice Dream Reader? I've 
 heard one or two other people say the same thing, but I can't figure out 
 just what the advantage is. Thanks.
> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Jane  > wrote:
> 
> There is also another app out there called Voice Dream Reaer. I use that 
> in conjunction with Read2Go. I use Read2Go for newspapers, and Voice 
> Dream for everything else.
> 
> Voice Dream lets me read much more quickly--also, you can save the 
> library to your computer, meaning you never loose your books--unlike with 
> Read2Go. If something goes wrong and you have to re-install Read2Go, your 
> downloaded materials are gone. Not so with Voice Dream Reader, as long as 
> you remember to save the library.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Nancy Badger > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I use this app all the time. First you have to decide if you want to 
>> read with voiceover or if you want to read with the audio inside the 
>> app. You need to choose this in settings. If you choose the audio inside 
>> the app, there is a play/pause button in the middleof the very bottom of 
>> the page. Double tap it and it will start playing and read continually. 
>> You only have to press the next page but if for some reason you want to 
>> skip to the next page or if you are reading in voiceover. I hope this 
>> makes sense. Let me know if you have other questions.
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:48 PM, amber8844 . >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello list members Please could some of you on this list help me out?
>>> I have just now joined bookshare and I purchased the read to go app.
>>> Are there any tutorials? Is there any way to read several pages at the
>>> time or do you have to click on next page?
>>> If there any tips that any one has it will be very appreciated.
>>> By the way I am using Ipad air. You may contact me off list if you
>>> like. Thanks in advance.
>>> Janie
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Re: Sound Distortion on Downcast

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Joe, if you go into Downcast settings, you can boost Downcast's volume with 
a slider control. Maybe what has happened is that that slider has been set 
quite high. I have heard it distort if it is set to a high level and the 
podcast you're listening to is recorded at normal volume.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 22/02/2015, at 2:02 pm, Joe  wrote:
> 
> Hi, for some reason I'm getting sound distortion on Downcast. The volume
> comes off much louder than my iPhone system volume even though it's at
> something like 50%. I'm sure it's user error, but I'm not sure how to turn
> up the Downcast volume to something comfortable that does not mess with
> Voiceover volume. Hope that makes sense? Thanks in advance for any
> tips.--Joe
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RE: Sound Distortion on Downcast

[Cristóbal]

You beat me to the punch Jonathan. This was what I was going to mention. This 
is especially noticeable in the lower bitrate podcasts. I have my global 
setting at +1 (67%) for example. Anything higher and sound quality really 
begins to crap out. There’s always the volume slider in the podcast itself 
should there be a need to raise the volume of a particular file which usually 
doesn’t’ cause the distortion.

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sound Distortion on Downcast

 

Hi Joe, if you go into Downcast settings, you can boost Downcast's volume with 
a slider control. Maybe what has happened is that that slider has been set 
quite high. I have heard it distort if it is set to a high level and the 
podcast you're listening to is recorded at normal volume.

Jonathan Mosen

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On 22/02/2015, at 2:02 pm, Joe  wrote:

 

Hi, for some reason I'm getting sound distortion on Downcast. The volume
comes off much louder than my iPhone system volume even though it's at
something like 50%. I'm sure it's user error, but I'm not sure how to turn
up the Downcast volume to something comfortable that does not mess with
Voiceover volume. Hope that makes sense? Thanks in advance for any
tips.--Joe

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Re: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You Hand It To

[Wayne Merritt]

The only times I have given my phone to store or restaurant personnel
were when using he Amazon Local app, so they could get the displayed
coupon code. Once they got the code, they gave the phone back to me.

Wayne

On 2/21/15, Rose Combs  wrote:
> Well, that is one worry I don't have, since I can't get a fingerprint on my
> 6 and have tried more than once, Apple pay and reward are out for me, and
> give me no reason to hand my phone to a clerk!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Virtual Reward Card On Your iPhone 6 Plus, Be Careful Who You
> Hand It To
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am absolutely in love with the Passbook App and Apple Pay feature on my
> iPhone 6 Plus.
>
> The number of brick & mortar stores in my area that accept Apple Pay
> transactions via the NFC protocol is relatively high.  As a result, I find
> myself using my iPhone to make purchases at least once a week, sometimes
> even more.
>
> The one thing I would like to see added to the Passbook app is the ability
> to quickly and easily add store reward cards without first having to
> install
> a store-specific app.
>
> Now I am well aware of the fact that there are a growing number of
> third-party apps and websites that will facilitate the creation of a
> passbook pass, however, given the recent data security breeches across the
> web, I am reluctant to give out any private purchasing information to
> third-party, and as far as I am concerned, unvetted entities.
>
> Given my recent success with Passbook, I have been considering virtualizing
> all of my store-specific reward cards by installing an app such as KeyRing
> or Stocards.
>
> Using such an app would allow me to quickly display the virtual card on my
> phone's display allowing it to be scanned at the time of purchase.
>
> I was planning on downloading a few such apps this evening when, earlier
> today, while in a brick & mortar store, I witnessed a customer hand her
> iPhone 6 Plus, with a virtual reward card displayed on the screen, to a
> store employee in order for the employee to scan the bar code.
>
> To everyone's surprise, the employee dropped the iPhone.  Because of a
> convergence of circumstances, the phone landed on the floor.  Not good. The
> customer was, to put it mildly, furious.
>
> After having seen this, I'm not certain if I want to use virtual store
> reward cards if doing so means that I must first hand my device to a store
> employee.
>
> A virtual reward card on your iPhone 6 Plus, be careful who you hand it to.
>
> Mark
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App refunds totally possible was Re: Talking atlas for iPad

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi Christopher and everyone else, 

Just wanted to state again that apple totally allows refunds for app store or 
any other online purchases.  
Here's a link detailing how to do this. I have repeatedly made use of this 
procedure. 
http://ioshacker.com/how-to/get-refund-app-purchased-app-store 
Hope this helps. 
Ioana  



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:41 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> There's some confusion over searching in the App Store. If you double tap the 
> search button then what you say may be true, but this isn't the same as 
> looking for the suggestion that you get when you just start typing in the 
> search field.
> 
> Also, the two week return policy you refer to doesn't apply to downloads from 
> the App Store. Here's a link to Apple's official return policy 
> http://store.apple.com/us/help/returns_refund
> 
>> On 02/21/2015 04:27 PM, Jim Ruby wrote:
>> I thought if you searched for an app in the app store on your iphone if an 
>> app was not compatible it would not show up or give you a warning and not 
>> install.
>> 
>> Keep in mind apple gives you two weeks to try a product, but I think the 
>> price is to high and on top of that in app purchases for a trivia game? For 
>> that price you should get both.
>> 
>> Just my opinion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of RobH.
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad
>> 
>> Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to pay that
>> much until someone says it works as well as they say on the site, and even
>> on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're all looking for a
>> volunteer with £30 to spare for trying this product.
>> Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to try it
>> and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how much control
>> of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent £3/$5 each, it would be worth that
>> to know the answer maybe?
>> 
>> 
>> JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination with
>> geography.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Nancy Badger" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
>> Subject: Talking atlas for iPad
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has had
>> any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to buy it until
>> I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so expensive.
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Talking atlas for iPad

[RobH.]

The in'app purchase includes the map of India as well as the game.  But as 
you say, still more than I want to splash out before getting first hand 
feedback how it fairs.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Ruby" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:27 PM
Subject: RE: Talking atlas for iPad


I thought if you searched for an app in the app store on your iphone if an 
app was not compatible it would not show up or give you a warning and not 
install.

Keep in mind apple gives you two weeks to try a product, but I think the 
price is to high and on top of that in app purchases for a trivia game? For 
that price you should get both.

Just my opinion.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of RobH.
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking atlas for iPad

Several have asked this, including me.  And no,  none of us want to pay that
much until someone says it works as well as they say on the site, and even
on Applevis where the link first showed up.  So we're all looking for a
volunteer with £30 to spare for trying this product.
Pity we couldn't all gift a proportion of the cost to a volunteer to try it
and report back publically. I've not tried gifting to know how much control
of amount one has;  but if ten of us sent £3/$5 each, it would be worth that
to know the answer maybe?


JMO,  RobH, who'd also like this.  Had a long'standing fascination with
geography.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nancy Badger" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:42 AM
Subject: Talking atlas for iPad


Hello,
I just found this app in the App Store. I was wondering if anyone has had
any experience with it. Is it truly accessible? I don't want to buy it until
I find some one who has had experience with it since it is so expensive.
Thanks for any help.
Nancy

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