Deleting all nail messages on IOS devices

[Daniel McGee]

Hi all, is there any way one can delete all mail messages using voiceover? By 
this, I mean getting rid of them all at once. Rather than individually.Message 
Hi all, is there any way one can delete all mail messages using voiceover? By 
this, I mean getting rid of them all at once. Rather than individually.Message 
Hi all, is there any way one can delete all mail messages using voiceover? By 
this, I mean getting rid of them all at once. Rather than individually.

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Question about braille displays and compatibility with iPhone six

[Beth G]

Hi,

I'm looking to purchase a braille display and I think I have it narrowed down 
to the edge and the Vario Ultra 20
I'm interested in anyone sauce on which might be a better way to go and pros 
and cons. If this is the archive somewhere, please let me know I did not find it

Thanks
Beth

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Re: iTunes message: iCloud needs upload

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi yes, make sure iCloud Music library is "on" in iPhone settings > music.
> On 16 Aug 2015, at 23:18, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I have signed up for the Apple Music free trial and I am curious about a 
> message Jaws reads with many of my songs. It says “iCloud needs upload”, 
> below is one example:
>  
> Penny Lane, iCloud Need upload, Time 3:02, The Beatles, Album The Beatles 
> 1967 - 1970 [Disc 1], Genre Rock, Track # 2 of 14, not loved
>  
> I just let Jaws speak it and copied this directly from the Jaws speech 
> history. If I right click on the song I see no option to upload the track, 
> but I do have a “Remove download” option in the menu that comes up. In the 
> iTunes preferences in the General tab I do have “Show Apple Music” checked 
> and there is also a checkmark next to an item called “iCloud Music Library” 
> followed by my Apple Id email.
>  
> I like the idea of Apple Music and love the SIRI integration, but I do agree 
> with many reviews and opinions that it is complicated and apparently there 
> are still issues which need to be fixed.
>  
> I used to strictly manage what music I have on my iPhone via iTunes, but 
> after I had to do a factory restore after briefly running a couple of early 
> versions of the iOS 9 beta and downgrading again to 8.4, I have not yet 
> synced any music to my iPhone manually. If I open the music app and go to the 
> “My Music” tab, I see a bunch of music which is all stuff I bought from 
> iTunes, but nothing else. Shouldn’t the music on my laptop which is in my 
> iTunes library upload to my iCloud Music Library and then be available on my 
> iPhone?
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: sending a test

[christopher hallsworth]

Yes this came through
> On 17 Aug 2015, at 04:25, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
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> Just wondering if this is going through.
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Native twitter app question

[Andrea Roveretto]

Hello!
I am starting to use twitter on the phone for the first time, so I 
donwloaded the native app.
Wedll, how does one go to the timelines of the people one follows? I was 
not able to find a way.l..

thanks alot
Andrea

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Re: sending a test

[Terry-Ann Saurmann]

Loud and clear.  Terry

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Subject: sending a test



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Re: Something I hope they fix in the new iOS

[Gmail]

Ah, all right. Maybe I wasn't py enough attention to your message. :)


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I noticed you said you were using the Amazon app. I am talking about the book 
> browser from within the Kindle app. That may account for the difference that 
> were seeing. I never use the Amazon app.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, one way that I found to make the Amazon app play nicely when scrolling 
>> is to put VoiceOver focus on to something, then wait a few seconds while 
>> whatever product page you've just  double-tapped on finishes loading 
>> completely. There aren't any clicks, like you would get in Safari, but just 
>> wait between three and five seconds, and everything should be fine. After 
>> you've found something on the screen to focus on, do your normal 
>> three-finger swipe up, and the pages should start scrolling fine. Hope this 
>> helps.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> I am not a programmer, obviously. And perhaps you are, or know enough about 
>>> it or how Apple does it, to know that Apple couldn't fix it without 
>>> breaking something. I just wonder if there isn't something in common that 
>>> all these programs that don't scroll well for voiceover have. And maybe 
>>> Apple could work around the issue, since these big companies like Amazon 
>>> and Netflix do not seem terribly interested in helping us out. The zite app 
>>> is another. That used to be great then, a couple of years ago, CNN bought 
>>> it. And their programmers broke it. Despite many requests to have it fixed, 
>>> it is still broken. So, it doesn't seem like this is a problem that will go 
>>> away. And it doesn't seem like the big developers are very interested in 
>>> making it go away. I know many people have asked Netflix to make their 
>>> programs more accessible all to no avail, as far as I can see.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I’ve seen those problems. Those are app-specific problems that the 
 developers need to fix. Apple can’t do anything on a system-wide level to 
 fix that, unless they themselves break something.
 
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I am not using the beta, so I am not on the beta users list. I suspect 
> that some who are also here. And that is why I am raising this question. 
> I don't expect an answer as to whether it has been fixed, because we all 
> know about the glorious and stupid nDA for a public beta, which is being 
> violated all over the place in the mainstream. But, never mind. It seems 
> like there are a certain number of apps or things within apps, where 
> voiceover will not scroll. Or the machine will not scroll with voice over 
> enabled using the three finger flick up or the three finger flick left or 
> right. Cases in point are Netflix and the book browser within Amazon 
> Kindle when running it on an iPad. I don't know frankly, if this is an 
> Apple problem or something that the developers  should fix. What I do 
> know, is that if Apple can fix it, it would be great, since the 
> developers are not likely to do so. These are just the things that come 
> immediately to mind. I know I have seen this problem of the device and 
> voiceover not scrolling together, or not scrolling when voiceover is on. 
> And it is a big deal that Apple should fix  if they can,  even if it 
> isn't technically their problem. We, the end-users are the loser.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Something I hope they fix in the new iOS

[Gmail]

Mary, are you talking about the Amazon Kindle app? I thought you were talking 
about the Amazon app, the one that's just called Amazon and is strictly for 
buying products. If you are indeed talking about the Kindle app, I can't help 
you there. I've only used it to read books, not done anything else with it.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ari, 
> I am not sure I understand how this is supposed to work. Go into the book 
> browser on your iPad mini or iPad if you have one. I think just before book 
> categories listing, you will find something that says start a new series. It 
> might be just after all the categories. I honestly don't remember, but I 
> think it is before. Double tap on that new series thing. As you say, there 
> will be no clicks, but the page loads. You will then see that there are 
> certain number of series. In my case, it was said to be 29. If you start 
> flicking through, you will see that voiceover will focus on each one, one 
> after the other. However, if you flick past those series which are available 
> on the first page, and double tap one of them, you will go nowhere, because 
> the focus has not followed the voiceover cursor. So I'm not sure how your 
> scenario fits this scenario.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, one way that I found to make the Amazon app play nicely when scrolling 
>> is to put VoiceOver focus on to something, then wait a few seconds while 
>> whatever product page you've just  double-tapped on finishes loading 
>> completely. There aren't any clicks, like you would get in Safari, but just 
>> wait between three and five seconds, and everything should be fine. After 
>> you've found something on the screen to focus on, do your normal 
>> three-finger swipe up, and the pages should start scrolling fine. Hope this 
>> helps.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> I am not a programmer, obviously. And perhaps you are, or know enough about 
>>> it or how Apple does it, to know that Apple couldn't fix it without 
>>> breaking something. I just wonder if there isn't something in common that 
>>> all these programs that don't scroll well for voiceover have. And maybe 
>>> Apple could work around the issue, since these big companies like Amazon 
>>> and Netflix do not seem terribly interested in helping us out. The zite app 
>>> is another. That used to be great then, a couple of years ago, CNN bought 
>>> it. And their programmers broke it. Despite many requests to have it fixed, 
>>> it is still broken. So, it doesn't seem like this is a problem that will go 
>>> away. And it doesn't seem like the big developers are very interested in 
>>> making it go away. I know many people have asked Netflix to make their 
>>> programs more accessible all to no avail, as far as I can see.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I’ve seen those problems. Those are app-specific problems that the 
 developers need to fix. Apple can’t do anything on a system-wide level to 
 fix that, unless they themselves break something.
 
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I am not using the beta, so I am not on the beta users list. I suspect 
> that some who are also here. And that is why I am raising this question. 
> I don't expect an answer as to whether it has been fixed, because we all 
> know about the glorious and stupid nDA for a public beta, which is being 
> violated all over the place in the mainstream. But, never mind. It seems 
> like there are a certain number of apps or things within apps, where 
> voiceover will not scroll. Or the machine will not scroll with voice over 
> enabled using the three finger flick up or the three finger flick left or 
> right. Cases in point are Netflix and the book browser within Amazon 
> Kindle when running it on an iPad. I don't know frankly, if this is an 
> Apple problem or something that the developers  should fix. What I do 
> know, is that if Apple can fix it, it would be great, since the 
> developers are not likely to do so. These are just the things that come 
> immediately to mind. I know I have seen this problem of the device and 
> voiceover not scrolling together, or not scrolling when voiceover is on. 
> And it is a big deal that Apple should fix  if they can,  even if it 
> isn't technically their problem. We, the end-users are the loser.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Downgrading App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gary,

 

You can uninstall iTunes and reinstall an older version, there are definitely 
download sites where you can get them. However, ultimately you are better off 
with the newer versions, accessibility issues will hopefully get fixed soon and 
apart from this app thing iTunes 12 is pretty OK.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downgrading App

 

Thanks very much for this.  I wish it were possible to downgrade iTunes .

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:14 PM

Subject: RE: Downgrading App

 

Hi Gary,

 

Unfortunately syncing apps to the phone from iTunes is somewhat broken in the 
latest few iTunes versions. It is still possible, but the main list of apps 
which you can choose from doesn’t read properly anymore, although I don’t know 
how other screenreaders handle it. You didn’t say if you use a Mac or PC, all I 
can give you are some pointers for a PC with the latest version of Jaws.

 

Anyhow, first of all, you of course have to connect your phone to the PC, then 
open iTunes and go to your device section. I assume you know how to do this so 
I won’t explain it in more detail, if you don’t know just email me directly and 
I can try to give you more detailed information.

 

Once you activate the “iPhone” button in iTunes, tab a few times until you get 
to the treeview which starts with “Summary”, all you have to do is arrow down 
once to “Apps”.

Now tab four times and you should be in a search edit field which Jaws 
announces as “Search Apps”. Write the name or part of the name of the app you 
want to sync to your phone.

As an example, I just typed “Dream” into the search box. You don’t have to 
press enter or anything, just tab out of the search box, the next thing you 
land on should be a “Clear search text” button.

Tab again and Jaws should say “Apps table list view”.

Tab again and Jaws will now say (in my example) “Apps table list box, Voice 
Dream Reader, read only”.

Tab again and Jaws will announce the size of the app, it will always say “Apps 
table listview”, then the information (the size in this case in Mb) and then 
“read only”.

Now the next tab takes you to where  you want to be. If the app in question is 
not installed on your iPhone, you will now come to the “Install” button. If the 
app is already on your phone, that button will be a “Remove” button.

Activate the install button by pressing the spacebar, now unfortunately focus 
will jump somewhere but if you tab a bunch of times again and find the item 
again, the button will now say “Will Install”. This means you have now selected 
the app to be installed/synced.

You can now tab around until you find the “Apply” button or you can use F6 
which might be faster or you can just go to the File menu with Alt+F, then use 
“v” to go to the “Device” submenu and then select “Sync”.

 

In earlier versions of iTunes all available apps were displayed in a nice 
listview and you could simply arrow down through that list view and each app 
had a checkbox which you could activate with the spacebar. Apps installed on 
your phone would be checked, apps which were not but could be installed were 
not. This way you could go and install or remove as many apps as you wanted all 
at once.

 

 

Hope this works,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downgrading App

 

I don't know if this got out, so appologies for the repost.

I'm trying to restore a specific app to my iPhone.  The accessibility was 
damaged in the most recent version and I want to go backward.  I've deleted the 
latest version and have an earlier version on the PC.  I can't figure out how 
to proceed.  I have checked Google and the archives but either don't see what I 
need or don't understand what I read.

Help appreciated.

 

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sending a test

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Just wondering if this is going through.

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applemusic on the phone.

[Billy Maynard]

hi,

This isn't really a question but, about apple music do you all find that 
when you're flicking with the roter said on for example headings  and you 
hit a heading then flick right or left to go through that elements  then try 
to flick up and down  to do headings again  do you find the roater setting 
moves to actons or that wehn flicking through a search I tend to lose 
track of where it is and ends up odd places in the search list. example: 
Flicking up/down roater set to headings it'll go through like songs, top 
albums, top vidios and sometimes vo seems to lose it's focus or againthe 
roter setting moves from heading to action.


I'd just like to see if this is just me somehow or a problum that 8.4 has 
vo and applemusic.


thanks,
Billy Maynard 


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Airdropping tones?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I've never messed with tones much, especially not outside of iTunes. My 
question is this: could I take an m4r file and use Airdrop to copy it from my 
Mac to an iPhone, then, on the phone, assign that file as a text or ring tone? 
I can make m4r files with no problem, my question is what iOS will do--and will 
let me do--once I Airdrop such a file. Has anyone ever tried this? Am I stuck 
using iTunes? Thanks.

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[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi.  Are there any good podcasts on this twitter client?  Thanks.

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Re: Need help with the Tweetings app

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi Ron.  Let's see if you get this message.  The only setting I can find 
that has to do with the order of tweets is in the look and feel menu in 
the settings in tweetings.  The default setting is relevant and I 
changed mine to 12 hour.  24 hour is another choice.  I don't know if 
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Re: STUIPID, BUT ...

[Alex Hall]

If I recall correctly, control-up will jump you to the top of the screen, and 
control-down will move to the bottom. Don't forget about control-option-k, 
which will enter key describe mode. In this mode anything you press is spoken 
and described instead of actually running commands. Press escape to exit this 
mode.
> On Aug 16, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure which lists you've already seen, but on the off chance this 
> wasn't one of them, there's Apple's list of VoiceOver commands for their 
> bluetooth keyboard at 
> http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html
> 
> In looking at it quickly, I didn't see a command to jump to the bottom of the 
> screen, but I just glanced through it so I can't promise it isn't there.
> 
> On 08/16/2015 05:02 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone wrote:
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>> I don't seem to be hitting on the right answer for my search, which is
>> obviously my fault, but need a list of keyboard commands to use with
>> iOS8 and the Apple keyboard.  I need specifically to do things like jump
>> to the bottom of a screen to get to the buttons in email but, just can't
>> find the right list ...
>> Any help most welcome!
>> Thanks.
>> Carol P
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Re: Downgrading App

[Gary Petraccaro]

Worked like a charm.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:14 PM
  Subject: RE: Downgrading App


  Hi Gary,

   

  Unfortunately syncing apps to the phone from iTunes is somewhat broken in the 
latest few iTunes versions. It is still possible, but the main list of apps 
which you can choose from doesn’t read properly anymore, although I don’t know 
how other screenreaders handle it. You didn’t say if you use a Mac or PC, all I 
can give you are some pointers for a PC with the latest version of Jaws.

   

  Anyhow, first of all, you of course have to connect your phone to the PC, 
then open iTunes and go to your device section. I assume you know how to do 
this so I won’t explain it in more detail, if you don’t know just email me 
directly and I can try to give you more detailed information.

   

  Once you activate the “iPhone” button in iTunes, tab a few times until you 
get to the treeview which starts with “Summary”, all you have to do is arrow 
down once to “Apps”.

  Now tab four times and you should be in a search edit field which Jaws 
announces as “Search Apps”. Write the name or part of the name of the app you 
want to sync to your phone.

  As an example, I just typed “Dream” into the search box. You don’t have to 
press enter or anything, just tab out of the search box, the next thing you 
land on should be a “Clear search text” button.

  Tab again and Jaws should say “Apps table list view”.

  Tab again and Jaws will now say (in my example) “Apps table list box, Voice 
Dream Reader, read only”.

  Tab again and Jaws will announce the size of the app, it will always say 
“Apps table listview”, then the information (the size in this case in Mb) and 
then “read only”.

  Now the next tab takes you to where  you want to be. If the app in question 
is not installed on your iPhone, you will now come to the “Install” button. If 
the app is already on your phone, that button will be a “Remove” button.

  Activate the install button by pressing the spacebar, now unfortunately focus 
will jump somewhere but if you tab a bunch of times again and find the item 
again, the button will now say “Will Install”. This means you have now selected 
the app to be installed/synced.

  You can now tab around until you find the “Apply” button or you can use F6 
which might be faster or you can just go to the File menu with Alt+F, then use 
“v” to go to the “Device” submenu and then select “Sync”.

   

  In earlier versions of iTunes all available apps were displayed in a nice 
listview and you could simply arrow down through that list view and each app 
had a checkbox which you could activate with the spacebar. Apps installed on 
your phone would be checked, apps which were not but could be installed were 
not. This way you could go and install or remove as many apps as you wanted all 
at once.

   

   

  Hope this works,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
  Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 4:36 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Downgrading App

   

  I don't know if this got out, so appologies for the repost.

  I'm trying to restore a specific app to my iPhone.  The accessibility was 
damaged in the most recent version and I want to go backward.  I've deleted the 
latest version and have an earlier version on the PC.  I can't figure out how 
to proceed.  I have checked Google and the archives but either don't see what I 
need or don't understand what I read.

  Help appreciated.

   

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Re: STUIPID, BUT ...

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure which lists you've already seen, but on the off chance this 
wasn't one of them, there's Apple's list of VoiceOver commands for their 
bluetooth keyboard at 
http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/iph6c494dc6.html


In looking at it quickly, I didn't see a command to jump to the bottom 
of the screen, but I just glanced through it so I can't promise it isn't 
there.


On 08/16/2015 05:02 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi all,
I don't seem to be hitting on the right answer for my search, which is
obviously my fault, but need a list of keyboard commands to use with
iOS8 and the Apple keyboard.  I need specifically to do things like jump
to the bottom of a screen to get to the buttons in email but, just can't
find the right list ...
Any help most welcome!
Thanks.
Carol P

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iOS and incorrect TTS voice

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

So I have different languages selected in my language rotor. English US as
my default along with English US as one of my options with Spanish Mexico
and German. 

The issue that I have is even though I have Spanish Mexico specifically
selected, The Spanish Spain (Castilian Spanish) is used when I am working in
translation apps like Google Translate or the various dictionary apps where
you can have selected text spoken in Spanish. The same goes for flash card
apps. I haven’t been able to change this behavior from within the individual
apps and like I said, the Spanish I have selected is totally different than
the one being used by all these apps 

I’m wondering if this is a default behavior of iOS and can be considered a
bug of some sort or if it’s something having to do with each individual app
itself? I’m inclined to believe the former as it’s pretty consistent
throughout.

It’s frustrating as the accent I’m aiming for and used to is not the one I’m
being given even though I’ve specifically chosen it and don’t even have the
Spanish Spain in this instance downloaded on to my phone.

I’m studying for federal and state certification for legal and medical
interpretation and use these apps quite a lot for the more arcane
terminology particular to these disciplines. I am already bilingual and run
my own interpretation agency, but am going for specialization in these
particular fields.

Indeed, The Spanish Spain Voiceover comes up when I switch keyboards too.

Has anyone else encountered this issue and have they been able to work out
how to get around it?

 

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Re: Downgrading App

[Gary Petraccaro]

Thanks very much for this.  I wish it were possible to downgrade iTunes .

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:14 PM
  Subject: RE: Downgrading App


  Hi Gary,

   

  Unfortunately syncing apps to the phone from iTunes is somewhat broken in the 
latest few iTunes versions. It is still possible, but the main list of apps 
which you can choose from doesn’t read properly anymore, although I don’t know 
how other screenreaders handle it. You didn’t say if you use a Mac or PC, all I 
can give you are some pointers for a PC with the latest version of Jaws.

   

  Anyhow, first of all, you of course have to connect your phone to the PC, 
then open iTunes and go to your device section. I assume you know how to do 
this so I won’t explain it in more detail, if you don’t know just email me 
directly and I can try to give you more detailed information.

   

  Once you activate the “iPhone” button in iTunes, tab a few times until you 
get to the treeview which starts with “Summary”, all you have to do is arrow 
down once to “Apps”.

  Now tab four times and you should be in a search edit field which Jaws 
announces as “Search Apps”. Write the name or part of the name of the app you 
want to sync to your phone.

  As an example, I just typed “Dream” into the search box. You don’t have to 
press enter or anything, just tab out of the search box, the next thing you 
land on should be a “Clear search text” button.

  Tab again and Jaws should say “Apps table list view”.

  Tab again and Jaws will now say (in my example) “Apps table list box, Voice 
Dream Reader, read only”.

  Tab again and Jaws will announce the size of the app, it will always say 
“Apps table listview”, then the information (the size in this case in Mb) and 
then “read only”.

  Now the next tab takes you to where  you want to be. If the app in question 
is not installed on your iPhone, you will now come to the “Install” button. If 
the app is already on your phone, that button will be a “Remove” button.

  Activate the install button by pressing the spacebar, now unfortunately focus 
will jump somewhere but if you tab a bunch of times again and find the item 
again, the button will now say “Will Install”. This means you have now selected 
the app to be installed/synced.

  You can now tab around until you find the “Apply” button or you can use F6 
which might be faster or you can just go to the File menu with Alt+F, then use 
“v” to go to the “Device” submenu and then select “Sync”.

   

  In earlier versions of iTunes all available apps were displayed in a nice 
listview and you could simply arrow down through that list view and each app 
had a checkbox which you could activate with the spacebar. Apps installed on 
your phone would be checked, apps which were not but could be installed were 
not. This way you could go and install or remove as many apps as you wanted all 
at once.

   

   

  Hope this works,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
  Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 4:36 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Downgrading App

   

  I don't know if this got out, so appologies for the repost.

  I'm trying to restore a specific app to my iPhone.  The accessibility was 
damaged in the most recent version and I want to go backward.  I've deleted the 
latest version and have an earlier version on the PC.  I can't figure out how 
to proceed.  I have checked Google and the archives but either don't see what I 
need or don't understand what I read.

  Help appreciated.

   

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Re: Important Moderator Note - New list policy and a request

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey Cara. Can you write me off list when you get this message? Thanks.

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RE: Downgrading App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gary,

 

Unfortunately syncing apps to the phone from iTunes is somewhat broken in the 
latest few iTunes versions. It is still possible, but the main list of apps 
which you can choose from doesn’t read properly anymore, although I don’t know 
how other screenreaders handle it. You didn’t say if you use a Mac or PC, all I 
can give you are some pointers for a PC with the latest version of Jaws.

 

Anyhow, first of all, you of course have to connect your phone to the PC, then 
open iTunes and go to your device section. I assume you know how to do this so 
I won’t explain it in more detail, if you don’t know just email me directly and 
I can try to give you more detailed information.

 

Once you activate the “iPhone” button in iTunes, tab a few times until you get 
to the treeview which starts with “Summary”, all you have to do is arrow down 
once to “Apps”.

Now tab four times and you should be in a search edit field which Jaws 
announces as “Search Apps”. Write the name or part of the name of the app you 
want to sync to your phone.

As an example, I just typed “Dream” into the search box. You don’t have to 
press enter or anything, just tab out of the search box, the next thing you 
land on should be a “Clear search text” button.

Tab again and Jaws should say “Apps table list view”.

Tab again and Jaws will now say (in my example) “Apps table list box, Voice 
Dream Reader, read only”.

Tab again and Jaws will announce the size of the app, it will always say “Apps 
table listview”, then the information (the size in this case in Mb) and then 
“read only”.

Now the next tab takes you to where  you want to be. If the app in question is 
not installed on your iPhone, you will now come to the “Install” button. If the 
app is already on your phone, that button will be a “Remove” button.

Activate the install button by pressing the spacebar, now unfortunately focus 
will jump somewhere but if you tab a bunch of times again and find the item 
again, the button will now say “Will Install”. This means you have now selected 
the app to be installed/synced.

You can now tab around until you find the “Apply” button or you can use F6 
which might be faster or you can just go to the File menu with Alt+F, then use 
“v” to go to the “Device” submenu and then select “Sync”.

 

In earlier versions of iTunes all available apps were displayed in a nice 
listview and you could simply arrow down through that list view and each app 
had a checkbox which you could activate with the spacebar. Apps installed on 
your phone would be checked, apps which were not but could be installed were 
not. This way you could go and install or remove as many apps as you wanted all 
at once.

 

 

Hope this works,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downgrading App

 

I don't know if this got out, so appologies for the repost.

I'm trying to restore a specific app to my iPhone.  The accessibility was 
damaged in the most recent version and I want to go backward.  I've deleted the 
latest version and have an earlier version on the PC.  I can't figure out how 
to proceed.  I have checked Google and the archives but either don't see what I 
need or don't understand what I read.

Help appreciated.

 

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I don't know if this got out, so appologies for the repost.
I'm trying to restore a specific app to my iPhone.  The accessibility was 
damaged in the most recent version and I want to go backward.  I've deleted the 
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RE: Important Moderator Note - New list policy and a request

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Re: Removing "Connect" from Apple Music and adding back Playlists

[Feliciano Godoy]

Yes, it is a passcode that  you set for restrictions only. Separate from the 
passcode that you set up to unlock your device.

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> On Aug 16, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Thought this might be of interest to some who like to have a Playlists tab 
> again at the bottom of the Music app and get rid of the entire Connect stuff. 
> Here is how you do it:
>  
> 1.   Go to Settings, General, Restrictions
> 2.   At the top it says “Enable Restrictions” and by default this is 
> turned off.
> Turn it on, but be careful since it will ask you for a passcode and as far as 
> I know this is not the same passcode you use to unlock your phone since it 
> asks you to enter a 4-digit passcode and then to reenter it. Make sure you 
> use one you can remember because otherwise if  you ever want to turn the 
> Restrictions back off you can’t do it. I just used the same passcode that I 
> use to unlock my phone.
> 3.   Once you have set a passcode, swipe down the list until you find 
> “Apple Music Connect”.
> 4.   Make sure you get the context, by default all items listed are “On” 
> and that does not mean they are “On” as in “restricted”. At the top the 
> heading says “Allow” so that means if an item is On it is allowed or, in 
> other words, there is no restriction. Turn “Apple Music Connect” off by 
> double tapping on it, then just exit the Settings app or go back to the main 
> settings screen by using the back button or scrub gesture.
> 5.   Now if you go to the Music app, “Connect” is gone from the 5 tabs at 
> the bottom and it is replaced with “Playlists”. This gives you easy access to 
> all your playlists and if you now go to “My Music” the “All Music” and 
> “Playlists” selection is gone since you have all your Playlists accessible 
> via the Playlists tab. You now have the following 5 tabs at the bottom:
>  
> For You
> New
> Radio
> Playlists
> My Music
>  
> From what I have heard on Podcasts so far it appears the Connect feature is 
> little more popular or successful than the old “Ping” service Apple at one 
> point came up with. I think people just want to listen to music and maybe 
> share what they are listening to on Facebook or Twitter, but it seems they 
> don’t care too much about the rest.
>  
> I did, by the way, figure out that I had to turn on “iCloud Music Library” in 
> Settings and Music on my iPhone and now it appears all my artists, albums and 
> songs show up even those where it says “iCloud Needs Upload” in iTunes on my 
> laptop.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Removing books from IBooks on to the hard drive

[DJ Reese]

Hi list:

Once I plug the phone up to the computer and go into iTunes, how do I move my 
iBook purchases to the hard drive?  Thanks!

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Download and install the new Peachtree Radio fM app available in the 
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Peachtree Radio FM.  where some listen to remember and some listen to 
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Important Moderator Note - New list policy and a request

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Removing "Connect" from Apple Music and adding back Playlists

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

 

Thought this might be of interest to some who like to have a Playlists tab
again at the bottom of the Music app and get rid of the entire Connect
stuff. Here is how you do it:

 

1.   Go to Settings, General, Restrictions

2.   At the top it says "Enable Restrictions" and by default this is
turned off.

Turn it on, but be careful since it will ask you for a passcode and as far
as I know this is not the same passcode you use to unlock your phone since
it asks you to enter a 4-digit passcode and then to reenter it. Make sure
you use one you can remember because otherwise if  you ever want to turn the
Restrictions back off you can't do it. I just used the same passcode that I
use to unlock my phone.

3.   Once you have set a passcode, swipe down the list until you find
"Apple Music Connect".

4.   Make sure you get the context, by default all items listed are "On"
and that does not mean they are "On" as in "restricted". At the top the
heading says "Allow" so that means if an item is On it is allowed or, in
other words, there is no restriction. Turn "Apple Music Connect" off by
double tapping on it, then just exit the Settings app or go back to the main
settings screen by using the back button or scrub gesture.

5.   Now if you go to the Music app, "Connect" is gone from the 5 tabs
at the bottom and it is replaced with "Playlists". This gives you easy
access to all your playlists and if you now go to "My Music" the "All Music"
and "Playlists" selection is gone since you have all your Playlists
accessible via the Playlists tab. You now have the following 5 tabs at the
bottom:

 

For You

New

Radio

Playlists

My Music

 

>From what I have heard on Podcasts so far it appears the Connect feature is
little more popular or successful than the old "Ping" service Apple at one
point came up with. I think people just want to listen to music and maybe
share what they are listening to on Facebook or Twitter, but it seems they
don't care too much about the rest.

 

I did, by the way, figure out that I had to turn on "iCloud Music Library"
in Settings and Music on my iPhone and now it appears all my artists, albums
and songs show up even those where it says "iCloud Needs Upload" in iTunes
on my laptop.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: SlowApple

[Corey Michael Cook]

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SlowApple

Yes and I thought it was just my Internet. I'm glad to know it's not me thank 
you what do you do about it?

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Corey Michael Cook  
> wrote:
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> 
> Is anyone else experiencing an issue where Apple services, such as app
> updates and music, are slow over home internet but have no issue over LTE?
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iTunes message: iCloud needs upload

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello,

 

I have signed up for the Apple Music free trial and I am curious about a
message Jaws reads with many of my songs. It says "iCloud needs upload",
below is one example:

 

Penny Lane, iCloud Need upload, Time 3:02, The Beatles, Album The Beatles
1967 - 1970 [Disc 1], Genre Rock, Track # 2 of 14, not loved

 

I just let Jaws speak it and copied this directly from the Jaws speech
history. If I right click on the song I see no option to upload the track,
but I do have a "Remove download" option in the menu that comes up. In the
iTunes preferences in the General tab I do have "Show Apple Music" checked
and there is also a checkmark next to an item called "iCloud Music Library"
followed by my Apple Id email.

 

I like the idea of Apple Music and love the SIRI integration, but I do agree
with many reviews and opinions that it is complicated and apparently there
are still issues which need to be fixed.

 

I used to strictly manage what music I have on my iPhone via iTunes, but
after I had to do a factory restore after briefly running a couple of early
versions of the iOS 9 beta and downgrading again to 8.4, I have not yet
synced any music to my iPhone manually. If I open the music app and go to
the "My Music" tab, I see a bunch of music which is all stuff I bought from
iTunes, but nothing else. Shouldn't the music on my laptop which is in my
iTunes library upload to my iCloud Music Library and then be available on my
iPhone?

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: SlowApple

[leliastr...@gmail.com]

Yes and I thought it was just my Internet. I'm glad to know it's not me thank 
you what do you do about it?

Lelia 

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STUIPID, BUT ...

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

I don't seem to be hitting on the right answer for my search, which is 
obviously my fault, but need a list of keyboard commands to use with iOS8 and 
the Apple keyboard.  I need specifically to do things like jump to the bottom 
of a screen to get to the buttons in email but, just can't find the right list 
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Any help most welcome!

Thanks.


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RE: KNFB Reader In-App Purchases

[SSEric]

When I search the App Store for KNFB KNFB Reader comes up. I double tap that
and I get the screen with a button for app, developer and reviews. The next
button is price. Another swipe lands me on In-App Purchases. Swipe again and
I and on the bottom tabs starting with Featured. However, if I swipe back
from Featured I do not hear In-App Purchases. I did have someone look at the
screen and In-App Purchases was there.

Just another curiosity... Thanks for advising no in-app purchases.

E


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Haven't seen any in-app purchases so far but maybe Knfb Reader will support
different reading voices, or perhaps it does already. I haven't explored
that. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> I am not aware of any in-app purchases in KNFB Reader.
> What are you referring to?
> Richard
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>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:56 AM, SSEric  wrote:
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>> Can anyone say what these purchases are. I read through the entire
>> description and found nothing.
>> 
>> Thanks!
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RE: ios 9

[Corey Michael Cook]

correct

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Actually, in the past years you were able to preorder a newly announced iPhone 
on the Friday after the keynote, iOS would then be released the week after and 
the new phones would start shipping shortly after that. If the keynote this 
year is on Wednesday, September 9, that would mean you can most likely preorder 
your phone after Midnight on Friday, September 11 and iOS 9 would be released 
to the public on Wednesday, September 16.

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New iOS versions are usually released in the same week the newer generation of 
iPhones are released.  It was always September or October.  So, when the iPhone 
six S comes out, iOS nine will be downloading in the same time, probably two 
days earlier to reduce pressure on the servers.

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No we do not.
> On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:47, Alex Stone  wrote:
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Re: SlowApple

[Alex Stone]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen to you, but it's not happening to me.

On 16/08/2015 22:32, Corey Cook wrote:

It is the strangest thing
And no other service over home Internet is slow
Except for Apple services

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 16, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:

Can't say I've noticed that to be honest.
Cheers
Alex


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RE: SlowApple

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not really, but I do have this issue with Audible downloads. On WiFi they 
sometimes are incredibly slow as in slow like on dial-up and if I turn off WiFi 
while the download is going on and it switches to 3G (no LTE yet where I live) 
it suddenly starts pooring in. Audible support tells me this could be a router 
issue as in a setting in my router and I am actually just waiting to find a 
time when I can talk to their elevated support as they want to connect to my 
computer to take a look at the settings.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Is anyone else experiencing an issue where Apple services, such as app
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Re: SlowApple

[Corey Cook]

It is the strangest thing
And no other service over home Internet is slow
Except for Apple services

Sent from my iPhone

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> Cheers
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RE: ios 9

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Actually, in the past years you were able to preorder a newly announced iPhone 
on the Friday after the keynote, iOS would then be released the week after and 
the new phones would start shipping shortly after that. If the keynote this 
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your phone after Midnight on Friday, September 11 and iOS 9 would be released 
to the public on Wednesday, September 16.

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New iOS versions are usually released in the same week the newer generation of 
iPhones are released.  It was always September or October.  So, when the iPhone 
six S comes out, iOS nine will be downloading in the same time, probably two 
days earlier to reduce pressure on the servers.

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No we do not.
> On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:47, Alex Stone  wrote:
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Re: SlowApple

[Alex Stone]

Can't say I've noticed that to be honest.
Cheers
Alex

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SlowApple

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

I believe each carriers implementation of it varies.
AT&T, for example, it states that you’ll be using wi-fi if your cellular 
coverage is nonexistent or poor.

> On Aug 16, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> I don't think both parties have to be on wireless, but as I said yesterday, 
> I've never knowingly used it.
> Cheers
> Alex
> 
> On 16/08/2015 21:22, Neal Ewers wrote:
>> That's not what I heard from the person at Verizon I talked with yesterday. 
>> It was his contention that if you had a wireless signal, you would be using 
>> wireless and not cellular. But who knows, Verizon does not even have this up 
>> and running yet,. I also wonder if both parties have to be using wireless 
>> before it works? Questions, and very few answers.
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>> 
>> As I understand it, if you have cellular coverage then that will be used 
>> even if you have a wifi connection.
>> Cheers
>> Alex
>> 
>> On 16/08/2015 19:16, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
>>> I have tried the WiFi Calling Feature available with Sprint, but have
>>> noticed no difference in the quality of phone calls made from inside
>>> my home.  Terry
>>> 
>>> --- Original Message - From: "Beverly" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 1:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have Sprint, but I haven't noticed anything.  Anyone who has Sprint,
>>> email me and we can check it out together.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's probably about the same as it would be with good signal. Phone calls
>>> pretty much are what they are unless you had another Sprint person
>>> using it,
>>> and then it might go HD. I discovered they made the error messages sound
>>> really good if you dial the wrong thing, but that's about the only higher
>>> quality thing I heard.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Terry-Ann Saurmann"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I don't notice any difference in the quality of a call
>>> indoors yet via Sprint .  Terry
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Alex Stone" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>>> 
>>> 
>>> here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I
>>> know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything
>>> but a good thing.
>>> Cheers
>>> Alex
>>> 
>>> On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:
 The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of
 those buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good
 everywhere, but the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile
 have enabled this. I think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I
 think the minutes are unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers
 anything but unlimited on calls these days.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
 Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
 
 
 It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing
 up for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.
 
 Brett C.
 
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
> Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in
> certain
> locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
> excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.
> 
> I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.
> 
> Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in
> the US
> is offering this ability other than Sprint?
> 
> It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell
> quality was
> when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me
> and
> their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).
> 
> Mark
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RE: ios 9

[Cris Ali]

New iOS versions are usually released in the same week the newer generation of 
iPhones are released.  It was always September or October.  So, when the iPhone 
six S comes out, iOS nine will be downloading in the same time, probably two 
days earlier to reduce pressure on the servers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 3:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: ios 9

No we do not.
> On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:47, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know yet when ios 9 is going to be released? It's usually in 
> September, but I haven't heard anything about a date yet.
> Cheers
> Alex
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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Alex Stone]

I don't think both parties have to be on wireless, but as I said 
yesterday, I've never knowingly used it.

Cheers
Alex

On 16/08/2015 21:22, Neal Ewers wrote:

That's not what I heard from the person at Verizon I talked with yesterday. It 
was his contention that if you had a wireless signal, you would be using 
wireless and not cellular. But who knows, Verizon does not even have this up 
and running yet,. I also wonder if both parties have to be using wireless 
before it works? Questions, and very few answers.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

As I understand it, if you have cellular coverage then that will be used even 
if you have a wifi connection.
Cheers
Alex

On 16/08/2015 19:16, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:

I have tried the WiFi Calling Feature available with Sprint, but have
noticed no difference in the quality of phone calls made from inside
my home.  Terry

--- Original Message - From: "Beverly" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


I have Sprint, but I haven't noticed anything.  Anyone who has Sprint,
email me and we can check it out together.


- Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It's probably about the same as it would be with good signal. Phone calls
pretty much are what they are unless you had another Sprint person
using it,
and then it might go HD. I discovered they made the error messages sound
really good if you dial the wrong thing, but that's about the only higher
quality thing I heard.

- Original Message - From: "Terry-Ann Saurmann"

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


Unfortunately, I don't notice any difference in the quality of a call
indoors yet via Sprint .  Terry

- Original Message - From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I
know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything
but a good thing.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:

The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of
those buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good
everywhere, but the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile
have enabled this. I think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I
think the minutes are unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers
anything but unlimited on calls these days.

- Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing
up for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.

Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in
certain
locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in
the US
is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell
quality was
when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me
and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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RE: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Neal Ewers]

That's not what I heard from the person at Verizon I talked with yesterday. It 
was his contention that if you had a wireless signal, you would be using 
wireless and not cellular. But who knows, Verizon does not even have this up 
and running yet,. I also wonder if both parties have to be using wireless 
before it works? Questions, and very few answers.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

As I understand it, if you have cellular coverage then that will be used even 
if you have a wifi connection.
Cheers
Alex

On 16/08/2015 19:16, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
> I have tried the WiFi Calling Feature available with Sprint, but have 
> noticed no difference in the quality of phone calls made from inside 
> my home.  Terry
>
> --- Original Message - From: "Beverly" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>
>
> I have Sprint, but I haven't noticed anything.  Anyone who has Sprint, 
> email me and we can check it out together.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>
>
> It's probably about the same as it would be with good signal. Phone calls
> pretty much are what they are unless you had another Sprint person 
> using it,
> and then it might go HD. I discovered they made the error messages sound
> really good if you dial the wrong thing, but that's about the only higher
> quality thing I heard.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Terry-Ann Saurmann" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>
>
> Unfortunately, I don't notice any difference in the quality of a call
> indoors yet via Sprint .  Terry
>
> - Original Message - From: "Alex Stone" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>
>
> here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I
> know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything
> but a good thing.
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:
>> The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of 
>> those buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good 
>> everywhere, but the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile 
>> have enabled this. I think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I 
>> think the minutes are unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers 
>> anything but unlimited on calls these days.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
>>
>>
>> It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing 
>> up for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.
>>
>> Brett C.
>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
>>> Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
>>> certain
>>> locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
>>> excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.
>>>
>>> I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in 
>>> the US
>>> is offering this ability other than Sprint?
>>>
>>> It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell 
>>> quality was
>>> when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me 
>>> and
>>> their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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Re: Trivia crack

[Alex Stone]

Thanks for that, I hadn't worked that out yet.
Also, every time I try and link my Facebook account to trivia crack, it 
comes back with an error, which is rather irritating.

Cheers
Alex

On 16/08/2015 18:52, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, if you swipe up with two fingers in mediately after hearing the music 
going didn't get you got the wrong answer, it  read you the incorrect answer, 
then the one that is correct.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Beverly  wrote:

I don't know if this question has come up before, but I would like to know has 
anyone figured out how to read the answers to the trivia crack questions?  I 
mean, when I get an answer wrong, is there a way to find out the correct 
answer?  You may write on or off list.


- Original Message - From: "Jenifer Barr" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Trivia crack


Yes, they did release an update yesterday... it seems to solve the crashing 
issue. (smile)
hth


Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 15, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Dacia Cole  wrote:

I updated on Wednesday and have had problems ever since.  Did they
release an update yesterday?  If so, is it better?  I have a six and
am running the latest IOS 8.41 update.

thanks,

Dacia


On 8/15/15, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
HI.
I have an iPhone 5s and running the latest 8. whatever version... lol, and
not having a problem since the update yesterday. I'lp admit that the one
before a few days ago was crashing... but now am not having problems.
hth


Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:50 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

As I've said before, I'm not experiencing what others are experiencing
with Trivia Crack but that could be because, if I can say this here, I'm
running iOS 9 Beta 3 on my 5S.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:46 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com
 wrote:

If I were anybody who plays the game of Trivia Crack I would not updated,
I did because I saw someone saying that they were having issues so I
wanted to see if I did and I do. Basically, The game has become
unplayable. It crashes, and it's very hard to find the people that you
were playing with. It is just unplayable. At least on my iPhone 5S with I
don't remember what update I think it's 8.4 or something

Lelia

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Alex Stone]

As I understand it, if you have cellular coverage then that will be used 
even if you have a wifi connection.

Cheers
Alex

On 16/08/2015 19:16, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
I have tried the WiFi Calling Feature available with Sprint, but have 
noticed no difference in the quality of phone calls made from inside 
my home.  Terry


--- Original Message - From: "Beverly" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


I have Sprint, but I haven't noticed anything.  Anyone who has Sprint, 
email

me and we can check it out together.


- Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It's probably about the same as it would be with good signal. Phone calls
pretty much are what they are unless you had another Sprint person 
using it,

and then it might go HD. I discovered they made the error messages sound
really good if you dial the wrong thing, but that's about the only higher
quality thing I heard.

- Original Message - From: "Terry-Ann Saurmann" 


To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


Unfortunately, I don't notice any difference in the quality of a call
indoors yet via Sprint .  Terry

- Original Message - From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I
know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything
but a good thing.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:
The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of 
those buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good 
everywhere, but the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile 
have enabled this. I think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I 
think the minutes are unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers 
anything but unlimited on calls these days.


- Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing 
up for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
certain

locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in 
the US

is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell 
quality was
when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me 
and

their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: ios 9

[Alex Stone]

Thanks, that's good enough for me.
Cheers
Alex

On 16/08/2015 20:24, Richard Turner wrote:

Apple has not announced a date for sure.
It sounds like there event may be on September 9 when they announce the next 
iPhone, and the iOS release is usually not long after that, but until Apple 
makes an official announcement, no one really knows.

Richard


On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:47, Alex Stone  wrote:

Does anyone know yet when ios 9 is going to be released? It's usually in 
September, but I haven't heard anything about a date yet.
Cheers
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RE: ios 9

[Richard Turner]

Apple has not announced a date for sure.
It sounds like there event may be on September 9 when they announce the next 
iPhone, and the iOS release is usually not long after that, but until Apple 
makes an official announcement, no one really knows.

Richard

> On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:47, Alex Stone  wrote:
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> September, but I haven't heard anything about a date yet.
> Cheers
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Re: Something I hope they fix in the new iOS

[Mary Otten]

Yes, I have sent this report to Apple accessibility. I posted it here in the 
hope that those who are on this list and also trying the beta would be passing 
it along to Apple if it's not fixed. I thought I made that clear in my initial 
post.
Mary

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> On Aug 16, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> Did you send this list of things you would like corrected to the 
> accessibility at Apple?  Venting here doesn't get to Apple.  Sending them an 
> e-mail would have more of a chance of getting things done.
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Something I hope they fix in the new iOS
> 
> Hi all,
> I am not using the beta, so I am not on the beta users list. I suspect that 
> some who are also here. And that is why I am raising this question. I don't 
> expect an answer as to whether it has been fixed, because we all know about 
> the glorious and stupid nDA for a public beta, which is being violated all 
> over the place in the mainstream. But, never mind. It seems like there are a 
> certain number of apps or things within apps, where voiceover will not 
> scroll. Or the machine will not scroll with voice over enabled using the 
> three finger flick up or the three finger flick left or right. Cases in point 
> are Netflix and the book browser within Amazon Kindle when running it on an 
> iPad. I don't know frankly, if this is an Apple problem or something that the 
> developers  should fix. What I do know, is that if Apple can fix it, it would 
> be great, since the developers are not likely to do so. These are just the 
> things that come immediately to mind. I know I have seen this problem of the 
> device and voiceover not scrolling together, or not scrolling when voiceover 
> is on. And it is a big deal that Apple should fix  if they can,  even if it 
> isn't technically their problem. We, the end-users are the loser.
> Mary
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Re: Trivia crack

[Beverly]

Thanks for your help. I guess you have to be fast, lol.

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Trivia crack


Yes, if you swipe up with two fingers in mediately after hearing the music 
going didn't get you got the wrong answer, it  read you the incorrect 
answer, then the one that is correct.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Beverly  wrote:

I don't know if this question has come up before, but I would like to know 
has anyone figured out how to read the answers to the trivia crack 
questions?  I mean, when I get an answer wrong, is there a way to find out 
the correct answer?  You may write on or off list.



- Original Message - From: "Jenifer Barr" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Trivia crack


Yes, they did release an update yesterday... it seems to solve the 
crashing issue. (smile)

hth


Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 15, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Dacia Cole  wrote:

I updated on Wednesday and have had problems ever since.  Did they
release an update yesterday?  If so, is it better?  I have a six and
am running the latest IOS 8.41 update.

thanks,

Dacia


On 8/15/15, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
HI.
I have an iPhone 5s and running the latest 8. whatever version... lol, 
and

not having a problem since the update yesterday. I'lp admit that the one
before a few days ago was crashing... but now am not having problems.
hth


Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:50 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
wrote:


As I've said before, I'm not experiencing what others are experiencing
with Trivia Crack but that could be because, if I can say this here, 
I'm

running iOS 9 Beta 3 on my 5S.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
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Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:46 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com
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If I were anybody who plays the game of Trivia Crack I would not 
updated,

I did because I saw someone saying that they were having issues so I
wanted to see if I did and I do. Basically, The game has become
unplayable. It crashes, and it's very hard to find the people that you
were playing with. It is just unplayable. At least on my iPhone 5S 
with I

don't remember what update I think it's 8.4 or something

Lelia

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Re: ios 9

[christopher hallsworth]

No we do not.
> On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:47, Alex Stone  wrote:
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> Does anyone know yet when ios 9 is going to be released? It's usually in 
> September, but I haven't heard anything about a date yet.
> Cheers
> Alex
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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Terry-Ann Saurmann]

I have tried the WiFi Calling Feature available with Sprint, but have 
noticed no difference in the quality of phone calls made from inside my 
home.  Terry


--- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


I have Sprint, but I haven't noticed anything.  Anyone who has Sprint, email
me and we can check it out together.


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From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It's probably about the same as it would be with good signal. Phone calls
pretty much are what they are unless you had another Sprint person using it,
and then it might go HD. I discovered they made the error messages sound
really good if you dial the wrong thing, but that's about the only higher
quality thing I heard.

- Original Message - 
From: "Terry-Ann Saurmann" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


Unfortunately, I don't notice any difference in the quality of a call
indoors yet via Sprint .  Terry

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I
know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything
but a good thing.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:
The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of those 
buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good everywhere, but 
the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile have enabled this. I 
think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I think the minutes are 
unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers anything but unlimited on calls 
these days.


- Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up 
for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
certain

locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the 
US

is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality 
was

when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: KNFB Reader In-App Purchases

[Andy Baracco]

There are no in-app purchases in KNFB Reader.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader In-App Purchases


I am not aware of any in-app purchases in KNFB Reader.
What are you referring to?
Richard





On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:56 AM, SSEric  wrote:

Can anyone say what these purchases are. I read through the entire
description and found nothing.

Thanks!

E


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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Beverly]

I have Sprint, but I haven't noticed anything.  Anyone who has Sprint, email 
me and we can check it out together.



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From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It's probably about the same as it would be with good signal. Phone calls
pretty much are what they are unless you had another Sprint person using it,
and then it might go HD. I discovered they made the error messages sound
really good if you dial the wrong thing, but that's about the only higher
quality thing I heard.

- Original Message - 
From: "Terry-Ann Saurmann" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


Unfortunately, I don't notice any difference in the quality of a call
indoors yet via Sprint .  Terry

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I
know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything
but a good thing.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:
The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of those 
buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good everywhere, but 
the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile have enabled this. I 
think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I think the minutes are 
unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers anything but unlimited on calls 
these days.


- Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up 
for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
certain

locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the 
US

is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality 
was

when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: Trivia crack

[dacia . luck]

Yes, if you swipe up with two fingers in mediately after hearing the music 
going didn't get you got the wrong answer, it  read you the incorrect answer, 
then the one that is correct.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Beverly  wrote:
> 
> I don't know if this question has come up before, but I would like to know 
> has anyone figured out how to read the answers to the trivia crack questions? 
>  I mean, when I get an answer wrong, is there a way to find out the correct 
> answer?  You may write on or off list.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jenifer Barr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 12:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Trivia crack
> 
> 
> Yes, they did release an update yesterday... it seems to solve the crashing 
> issue. (smile)
> hth
> 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Dacia Cole  wrote:
>> 
>> I updated on Wednesday and have had problems ever since.  Did they
>> release an update yesterday?  If so, is it better?  I have a six and
>> am running the latest IOS 8.41 update.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> Dacia
>> 
>>> On 8/15/15, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> HI.
>>> I have an iPhone 5s and running the latest 8. whatever version... lol, and
>>> not having a problem since the update yesterday. I'lp admit that the one
>>> before a few days ago was crashing... but now am not having problems.
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenifer Barr
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:50 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
 
 As I've said before, I'm not experiencing what others are experiencing
 with Trivia Crack but that could be because, if I can say this here, I'm
 running iOS 9 Beta 3 on my 5S.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:46 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
> 
> If I were anybody who plays the game of Trivia Crack I would not updated,
> I did because I saw someone saying that they were having issues so I
> wanted to see if I did and I do. Basically, The game has become
> unplayable. It crashes, and it's very hard to find the people that you
> were playing with. It is just unplayable. At least on my iPhone 5S with I
> don't remember what update I think it's 8.4 or something
> 
> Lelia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Trivia crack

[Beverly]

I don't know if this question has come up before, but I would like to know 
has anyone figured out how to read the answers to the trivia crack 
questions?  I mean, when I get an answer wrong, is there a way to find out 
the correct answer?  You may write on or off list.



- Original Message - 
From: "Jenifer Barr" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Trivia crack


Yes, they did release an update yesterday... it seems to solve the crashing 
issue. (smile)

hth


Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 15, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Dacia Cole  wrote:

I updated on Wednesday and have had problems ever since.  Did they
release an update yesterday?  If so, is it better?  I have a six and
am running the latest IOS 8.41 update.

thanks,

Dacia


On 8/15/15, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
HI.
I have an iPhone 5s and running the latest 8. whatever version... lol, 
and

not having a problem since the update yesterday. I'lp admit that the one
before a few days ago was crashing... but now am not having problems.
hth


Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:50 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
wrote:


As I've said before, I'm not experiencing what others are experiencing
with Trivia Crack but that could be because, if I can say this here, I'm
running iOS 9 Beta 3 on my 5S.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:46 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com
 wrote:

If I were anybody who plays the game of Trivia Crack I would not 
updated,

I did because I saw someone saying that they were having issues so I
wanted to see if I did and I do. Basically, The game has become
unplayable. It crashes, and it's very hard to find the people that you
were playing with. It is just unplayable. At least on my iPhone 5S with 
I

don't remember what update I think it's 8.4 or something

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Chris Smart]

ask your carrier. Bell, Rogers, etc. or do some searching
online.
At 03:33 PM 8/15/2015, you wrote:
Hi,
How do I check to see if this setting is available in my area?
Jen
-Original Message- From: Brent Harding
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature
The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of
those
buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good everywhere,
but
the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile have enabled this.
I
think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I think the minutes
are
unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers anything but unlimited on
calls
these days.
- Original Message - From: "Brett C."

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing
up for
some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.
Brett C.
On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M.
Taylor  wrote:
Hello All,
Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my
Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in
certain
locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they
have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.
I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless
phone.
Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in
the US
is offering this ability other than Sprint?
It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality
was
when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me
and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).
Mark
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Re: iOS 8.4.1

[Harry Bell]

I spoke too soon praising iOS 8.4.1!!  have updated my Mac to Yosemite latest 
and itunes 12.2.2 - and the results are terrible!! Before the update to iTunes, 
I had about 20 tracks Mis-categorised as Apple Music, which in reality had been 
uploaded from CD. Now there are suddenly THOUSANDS of tracks Mis-labelled as 
Apple Music!! Of course, this does mean that my iPhone 5S with iOS 8.4.1 no 
longer throws up "This item cannot be downloaded" - but only because I am still 
within the 3 month free trial period. But once that period is up, I assume they 
will no longer play. 
What a shambles! I do hope Apple will fix this problem some time soon?
Regards
Harry Bell

 

> On 13 Aug 2015, at 19:28, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hooray! iOS 8.4.1 update seems to have fixed my major iTunes Match problem of 
> hundreds of Matched and Uploaded albums refusing to play ("This item cannot 
> be downloaded") on iPhone/iPad. What a relief! Now I can enjoy iTunes Match - 
> which is what it is supposed to be about! One Relieved Bunny
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Need help with the Tweetings app

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi all,

 

Anyone know how I could reverse the order  of the way tweets appear?  I
would like to see them in chronological order and not reversed.  I would
like to pick up where I left off.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance

 

Ron & Danvers   

 

A blind person asked St. Anthony, "Can there be anything worse than losing
eye sight?"

He replied, "Yes, losing your vision!"

 

 

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RE: Something I hope they fix in the new iOS

[Ron Pelletier]

Mary,

Did you send this list of things you would like corrected to the accessibility 
at Apple?  Venting here doesn't get to Apple.  Sending them an e-mail would 
have more of a chance of getting things done.

Ron & Danvers

-Original Message-
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Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Something I hope they fix in the new iOS

Hi all,
I am not using the beta, so I am not on the beta users list. I suspect that 
some who are also here. And that is why I am raising this question. I don't 
expect an answer as to whether it has been fixed, because we all know about the 
glorious and stupid nDA for a public beta, which is being violated all over the 
place in the mainstream. But, never mind. It seems like there are a certain 
number of apps or things within apps, where voiceover will not scroll. Or the 
machine will not scroll with voice over enabled using the three finger flick up 
or the three finger flick left or right. Cases in point are Netflix and the 
book browser within Amazon Kindle when running it on an iPad. I don't know 
frankly, if this is an Apple problem or something that the developers  should 
fix. What I do know, is that if Apple can fix it, it would be great, since the 
developers are not likely to do so. These are just the things that come 
immediately to mind. I know I have seen this problem of the device and 
voiceover not scrolling together, or not scrolling when voiceover is on. And it 
is a big deal that Apple should fix  if they can,  even if it isn't technically 
their problem. We, the end-users are the loser.
Mary

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Re: KNFB Reader In-App Purchases

[Tom Lange]

Haven't seen any in-app purchases so far but maybe Knfb Reader will support 
different reading voices, or perhaps it does already. I haven't explored that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am not aware of any in-app purchases in KNFB Reader.
> What are you referring to?
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:56 AM, SSEric  wrote:
>> 
>> Can anyone say what these purchases are. I read through the entire
>> description and found nothing.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> E
>> 
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Re: New Moderator Needed?

[Daniel McGee]

The link that Christopher provided should get you started. A Google search 
should as well.
I think the subscribe address is 

mac4thebl...@freelists.org 

Just type subscribed in the subject line and confirm the subscription process 
by replying to the email you get sent.
Please look il the Lists info via Google because it's been quite a long time 
that I've sent the address info that I could of God it slightly wrong. 

Hopefully, Google is your friend here. 

Good luck 



> On 16 Aug 2015, at 13:15, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> It was easy enough to find with Google, i.e. 
> http://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
> 
>> On 08/16/2015 05:43 AM, janet wright wrote:
>> what is the subscribe info for mac for the blind list?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing
>> to wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
>> -Original Message- From: Daniel McGee
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New Moderator Needed?
>> 
>> Have been a member of mac4theblind for some years now and really enjoy
>> this alternative list. Be great to see some members subscribe over there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Aug 2015, at 03:55, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I run a group called blind apples week talk about the iPhone iPad
>>> and Mac but it's mainly iPhone questions currently right now. And we
>>> also talk about the Apple watch. So if you're interested enjoying you
>>> can definitely write me off list at the Address of
>>> jhud7...@gmail.com
 On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Christopher Chaltain
  wrote:
 
 I'd be interested in other list alternatives for the iPhone. I'm not
 a Mac user, so I don't want a generic Apple list. I joined another
 list briefly, but although it was tightly moderated, which I usually
 appreciate, the list owner was a bit too heavy handed. The recent
 glut of off topic lists, Windows 10 and the braille watch are the two
 threads that come to mind, has me thinking another list might be a
 better use of my time.
 
> On 08/15/2015 06:03 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> Well, there is always the peel the apple list, and plenty more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard Turner
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>> Dulce,
>> 
>> The only way someone can take over as Moderator is if Cara Quinn gives
>> them the passwords and all that.
>> 
>> So, until we hear from Cara, nothing can be done.
>> 
>> That is, unless you know something I don’t.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dulce Muccio
>> Weisenborn
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 15, 2015 3:11 PM
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>> *Subject:* New Moderator Needed?
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Re: KNFB Reader In-App Purchases

[Richard Turner]

I am not aware of any in-app purchases in KNFB Reader.
What are you referring to?
Richard




> On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:56 AM, SSEric  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone say what these purchases are. I read through the entire
> description and found nothing.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> E
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Re: Apple Tv

[Fred Olver]

Jonathon Mosen just came out with a book about the Apple Tv. I don't know what 
his website is but I'm sure someone will be able to give it to you.

Fred Olver
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  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:49 PM
  Subject: Apple Tv


  I know this list is all about the iPhone but I was wondering if anyone can 
tell me where to go to find out more about apple tv? I have been looking into 
it and roku and trying to find something accessible

  Thanks

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Re: Update did not fix trivia crack problems.

[Lisa Soulor]

There wasw one yesterday, the 15th, and I thought I saw one earlier this week.
Lisa

On 8/15/15, leliastr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I just updated my iPhone 5S to the latest update and I uninstalled and
> reinstalled trivia crack and it still doesn't work for me either. It is
> unplayable.
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:58 PM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I uninstall the app, and reinstalled it, it did not work. It is still
>> being rather Hankey, and annoying. It has stopped kicking me out almost
>> every time, but it's still very difficult to navigate. I do not like this.
>> They only sort of fixed it, but really they didn't.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Dave  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, have you tryed, uninstalling the app, and reinstalling it again?
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Lisa Soulor
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Update did not fix trivia crack problems.
>>>
>>> I have automatic updates and got both Trivia Crack updates. I have no
>>> problems, I just played this afternoon.
>>> Lisa
>>>
 On 8/15/15, dacia.l...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi, the trivia crack up did not fix the problems. I'm still having the
 same
 difficulties. Our others having them?

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Re: New Moderator Needed?

[Christopher Chaltain]

It was easy enough to find with Google, i.e. 
http://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind


On 08/16/2015 05:43 AM, janet wright wrote:

what is the subscribe info for mac for the blind list?



*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing
to wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
-Original Message- From: Daniel McGee
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:28 PM
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Subject: Re: New Moderator Needed?

Have been a member of mac4theblind for some years now and really enjoy
this alternative list. Be great to see some members subscribe over there.




On 16 Aug 2015, at 03:55, joseph hudson  wrote:

Hi, I run a group called blind apples week talk about the iPhone iPad
and Mac but it's mainly iPhone questions currently right now. And we
also talk about the Apple watch. So if you're interested enjoying you
can definitely write me off list at the Address of
jhud7...@gmail.com

On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Christopher Chaltain
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I'd be interested in other list alternatives for the iPhone. I'm not
a Mac user, so I don't want a generic Apple list. I joined another
list briefly, but although it was tightly moderated, which I usually
appreciate, the list owner was a bit too heavy handed. The recent
glut of off topic lists, Windows 10 and the braille watch are the two
threads that come to mind, has me thinking another list might be a
better use of my time.


On 08/15/2015 06:03 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
Well, there is always the peel the apple list, and plenty more.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Dulce,

The only way someone can take over as Moderator is if Cara Quinn gives
them the passwords and all that.

So, until we hear from Cara, nothing can be done.

That is, unless you know something I don’t.

Richard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Weisenborn
*Sent:* Saturday, August 15, 2015 3:11 PM
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*Subject:* New Moderator Needed?

Is there anyone on the list interested in moderating the list so that
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Re: New Moderator Needed?

[janet wright]

what is the subscribe info for mac for the blind list?



*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
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Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:28 PM
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Have been a member of mac4theblind for some years now and really enjoy this 
alternative list. Be great to see some members subscribe over there.





On 16 Aug 2015, at 03:55, joseph hudson  wrote:

Hi, I run a group called blind apples week talk about the iPhone iPad and 
Mac but it's mainly iPhone questions currently right now. And we also talk 
about the Apple watch. So if you're interested enjoying you can definitely 
write me off list at the Address of

jhud7...@gmail.com
On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
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I'd be interested in other list alternatives for the iPhone. I'm not a 
Mac user, so I don't want a generic Apple list. I joined another list 
briefly, but although it was tightly moderated, which I usually 
appreciate, the list owner was a bit too heavy handed. The recent glut of 
off topic lists, Windows 10 and the braille watch are the two threads 
that come to mind, has me thinking another list might be a better use of 
my time.



On 08/15/2015 06:03 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
Well, there is always the peel the apple list, and plenty more.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Dulce,

The only way someone can take over as Moderator is if Cara Quinn gives
them the passwords and all that.

So, until we hear from Cara, nothing can be done.

That is, unless you know something I don’t.

Richard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dulce Muccio 
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*Sent:* Saturday, August 15, 2015 3:11 PM
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*Subject:* New Moderator Needed?

Is there anyone on the list interested in moderating the list so that
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Re: New Moderator Needed?

[Alex Stone]

Why not provide the subscribe details then?
Cheers
Alex

On 16/08/2015 04:28, Daniel McGee wrote:

Have been a member of mac4theblind for some years now and really enjoy this 
alternative list. Be great to see some members subscribe over there.




On 16 Aug 2015, at 03:55, joseph hudson  wrote:

Hi, I run a group called blind apples week talk about the iPhone iPad and Mac 
but it's mainly iPhone questions currently right now. And we also talk about 
the Apple watch. So if you're interested enjoying you can definitely write me 
off list at the Address of
jhud7...@gmail.com

On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I'd be interested in other list alternatives for the iPhone. I'm not a Mac 
user, so I don't want a generic Apple list. I joined another list briefly, but 
although it was tightly moderated, which I usually appreciate, the list owner 
was a bit too heavy handed. The recent glut of off topic lists, Windows 10 and 
the braille watch are the two threads that come to mind, has me thinking 
another list might be a better use of my time.


On 08/15/2015 06:03 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
Well, there is always the peel the apple list, and plenty more.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Dulce,

The only way someone can take over as Moderator is if Cara Quinn gives
them the passwords and all that.

So, until we hear from Cara, nothing can be done.

That is, unless you know something I don’t.

Richard

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Is there anyone on the list interested in moderating the list so that
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Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

[Alex Stone]

Carla, with you all the way there. I can't understand why anyone who is 
a Braille wouldn't want a Braille smart watch.

Cheers
Alex

On 16/08/2015 10:24, Carla Savage wrote:

Hi,
Well, I for one will be doing further research on this.  It's the case of 
different strokes for different folks.

I love braille and am currently typing this on a Seika Mini.  'so for me, 
having the abbility to privately read things whilst on the go is really 
important.  Although i could carry my Seika around with me, I don't as I am 
concerned about getting it damaged by the weather or knocking it whilst 
travelling. It's fine when I'm out and about whilst sitting somewhere. Still, I 
will wait and see what happens. I'd love to try one out.
Best,
Carla.
  


Sent from my iPhone


On 15 Aug 2015, at 8:10 pm, christopher hallsworth  
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Richard I am not the moderator but I think so long as there is a connection 
with iDevices then it should be fine to post such information. Keep them coming 
for now until they ask you to stop.

On 15 Aug 2015, at 18:34, Richard Turner  wrote:

My apologies to the list for introducing this topic.
I forgot how too many people like to go off the deep end with no information 
and waste everyone's time with their speculations and condemnations.

I thought the rules of this list was that if you don't have anything of 
substance to contribute to a topic, you should remain silent.

1.   I will delete all messages on this topic from now on.

2.  I will not post anything about potential new devices ever again.

Richard

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ios 9

[Alex Stone]

Does anyone know yet when ios 9 is going to be released? It's usually in 
September, but I haven't heard anything about a date yet.

Cheers
Alex

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Playlist question in applemusic

[Anne Günther]

Hi
I'd like to know if there's a actual reason for some strange playlist 
behvior or if it's applemusic not properly working.
If I open the mini player and go to the more options. I have in one 
playlist the option to delete that specific title from that playlist. In 
another playlist this option doesn't show up. Both playlists are self 
created.

Does that make sense to anyone else?
Guenni

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Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

[Carla Savage]

Hi, 
Well, I for one will be doing further research on this.  It's the case of 
different strokes for different folks.  

I love braille and am currently typing this on a Seika Mini.  'so for me, 
having the abbility to privately read things whilst on the go is really 
important.  Although i could carry my Seika around with me, I don't as I am 
concerned about getting it damaged by the weather or knocking it whilst 
travelling. It's fine when I'm out and about whilst sitting somewhere. Still, I 
will wait and see what happens. I'd love to try one out. 
Best, 
Carla. 
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 8:10 pm, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Richard I am not the moderator but I think so long as there is a connection 
> with iDevices then it should be fine to post such information. Keep them 
> coming for now until they ask you to stop.
>> On 15 Aug 2015, at 18:34, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> My apologies to the list for introducing this topic.
>> I forgot how too many people like to go off the deep end with no information 
>> and waste everyone's time with their speculations and condemnations.
>> 
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>> 1.   I will delete all messages on this topic from now on.
>> 
>> 2.  I will not post anything about potential new devices ever again.
>> 
>> Richard
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Have written you off list.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Lamanche" 

To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Hi Carol,

I've written to one of the tech people at HIMS to let them know about the 
lag in writing and correcting text using Smart Beetle.  I am not sure - nor 
do I hold my breath - whether they will take note of the problem.  But I 
thought I'd let them know anyway because that's quite a point against buying 
their product which otherwise is very attractive.


I will write to accessibility at Apple as I always do when I encounter the 
problem.  I haven't done so so far because I wasn't sure whose patch it is. 
it's getting rather confusing who is responsible for what.


Please keep my e-mail in your contacts and let me know what you've found 
out.  And maybe if you wish, please send me your e-mail address for my 
records privately.  I will keep in touch with respect to Smart Beetle.


Best wishes

Andrew
On 15 Aug 2015, at 20:05, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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Hi Andrew,

Thanks so much for doing the test for me.

I wasn't surprised by your results because we have Braille Sense machines 
here and had experienced this lag.  There are two reasons why I wanted to 
add the Smart Beetle, partily because it's that much smaller for taking 
around and, secondly, because I was hoping the lag would have been solved 
by the introduction of the Beetle.


However, all is not yet lost because I think there probably will soon be a 
new driver and, well, I'm just holding on and hoping that this will solve 
at least a good part of the lagging.  I have mentioned this to the 
Accessability Team at


accessibil...@apple.com

and I'd really advise you to do the same just as soon as you can.

I'm also going to double check with HIMS that Apple are supposed to do the 
driver and not HIMS themselves.


If you're not a very fast Braillist then all may well not be lost for you, 
especially if you're prepared to make that cuppa whilst you wait for the 
translation.  I feel fairly sure that the problem is the same whether 
you're copying from the clipboard or writing in "real time", and it's a 
lag in translation, I think.  However, I'm not the expert, so we'll just 
go on telling them all what we know and what's important to us.  


I will write to the Accessability Team again myself to highlight this 
issue, in view of the recent introduction of Smart Beetle and what I've 
gleaned so far, so then they can't be saying they didn't know all about 
it.  . . ..


By the way, if we're rather pushing this on list and it's preferred we 
take it off list then please, George or someone, tell us that this is the 
case.


I know Jackie is interested, but would hate to bore everyone to death. 
Anyway, folks, please feel free to use that delete key!  


Please keep in touch with me with any developments, Andrew, and I'll do 
the same.


Cheers and thanks for your input on this.

Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" 
To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Dear Carol,

I’m afraid I’ve got bad news.  I’ve done the test as  you’ve asked me to 
and there is quite a considerable lag in both instances: using the text 
input straight into the edit field and using the clipboard method.  This 
is disappointing.  I’m not the fastest Braille writer and yet the lag was 
definitely there even though the text was quite short.  also, I found 
editing a document quite a laborious task again because of the lag.  It 
took sometimes a few seconds for the cursor to route to the right letter 
and when inserting a letter or letters again it took a few seconds for the 
text to appear on the display.  Very disappointed.


One more thing I want to try is pairing the Smart Beetle with my iPhone as 
a bluetooth keyboard and inputing the text from that mode to see whether 
it is the Braille mode that slows it down.  Apparently it is possible to 
use combo mode with smart beetle, i.e. pairing it both as a Braille 
display and as a bluetooth keyboard and then changing how you use it using 
a shortcut key.  I will have to read some more about it.  In a way, I’m 
anxious now that I made a wrong choice and yet I would have struggled to 
raise more finances for a more expensive product.  Maybe not all is lost 
and maybe, just maybe, HIMS will improve their software, and maybe once 
Apple incorporates Smart Beetle driver into its OS it will speed things 
up.


Sorry I have no better news.

Andrew
On 14 Aug 2015, at 22:58, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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Hi Andrew,

Hmm!  Wish S&S had their act together before my demo.  I'd thought, 
maybe, the use of the Braille Sense, in the manual was perhaps an 
oversight in not correcting stuff ... as this happens ... but it wasn't, 
I gather.


The other reason that would make

KNFB Reader In-App Purchases

[SSEric]

Can anyone say what these purchases are. I read through the entire
description and found nothing.

Thanks!

E


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