date:20150911

2015-09-11 Thread 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone

Hi Carol,

You can charge as long as the battery has power and how much that is depends on 
the capacity of the battery. A 3,200 MAH battery will charge a 5S probably 
close to twice from when you first get the low battery warning at 20%, a 6 
maybe not quite twice and a 6 Plus most likely just once and then maybe a 
little bit. It really depends on the battery, the phone, when you start 
charging and also what you do while it is charging. If, for example, your phone 
is at 20% when you plug it in and you then use a GPS app for a couple of hours 
while it is charging, the phone will use up a lot more power and it will charge 
slower.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

So, could you just clarify how these work.

Once you've charged up the charger and used it with your phone, how many 
more times can you repeat this process?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries


Maria,

Sieghard has confirmed that the Anker Mini 3200mAh will charge your iPhone
at least one full time. I bought one of these models for a friend and it is
about the size of a lipstick. I have the Anker® Astro E1 5200mAh Ultra
Compact Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank with PowerIQ™
Technology and it is a bit larger at about 3 and a half inches long, and
inch and a half wide, and about a half inch deep. Small enough to be easily
transportable in a purse or small bag.

I like the Anker units because even though they use LED lights to display
how far along they are with charging, they automatically begin charging when
connected to either a wall outlet or your computer's USB port and they
automatically turn off when disconnected. They also automatically turn on
when you connect your iDevice to them to be charged using the supplied micro
USB cable.

Good luck with your shopping.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Maria,

Yes, a 3200 MAH battery can easily provide one full charge for an iPhone 6,
probably more like one and a half. The iPhone 6 has an 1,810 MAH battery so
3,200 is plenty.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the Anker products.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Hello list,
I have been following the discussion about external batteries with
interest and I thought to ask you if someone has experience with the
following model:
2nd Gen Astro Mini 3200mAh Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank
with PowerIQ Technology.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords
=[Apple+MFi+Certified]+Anker+2nd+Gen+Astro+Mini+3200mAh+Portable+Charger+Ext
ernal+Battery+Power+Bank+
Please, does anyone know of what size is the battery? It is 3200 mAh
battery, so do you think it would charge Iphone 6, let's say from 3% to
100% just once?
I currently have New Trent iCurve IMP70D 7000mAh External Battery Pack.
I am not sure if this model works with Iphone 6, I have not tried it
yet. I have bought it when I had Iphone 4. The capacity is great, but as
for size, it is not confortable for me to carry it in purse when I
travel, so I need something small in size, but big in capacity.
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

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Re: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries


Sorry, perhaps I haven't explained myself.

I understood the fact that a battery charge would do one or two complete 
charges of your phone.  What I was asking was how many times you can charge 
the charger itself, thus giving 1-2 further charges of your phone?


Sorry if I wasn't clear enough 

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries


Hi Carol,

You can charge as long as the battery has power and how much that is depends 
on the capacity of the battery. A 3,200 MAH battery will charge a 5S 
probably close to twice from when you first get the low battery warning at 
20%, a 6 maybe not quite twice and a 6 Plus most likely just once and then 
maybe a little bit. It really depends on the battery, the phone, when you 
start charging and also what you do while it is charging. If, for example, 
your phone is at 20% when you plug it in and you then use a GPS app for a 
couple of hours while it is charging, the phone will use up a lot more power 
and it will charge slower.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

So, could you just clarify how these work.

Once you've charged up the charger and used it with your phone, how many
more times can you repeat this process?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries


Maria,

Sieghard has confirmed that the Anker Mini 3200mAh will charge your iPhone
at least one full time. I bought one of these models for a friend and it is
about the size of a lipstick. I have the Anker® Astro E1 5200mAh Ultra
Compact Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank with PowerIQ™
Technology and it is a bit larger at about 3 and a half inches long, and
inch and a half wide, and about a half inch deep. Small enough to be easily
transportable in a purse or small bag.

I like the Anker units because even though they use LED lights to display
how far along they are with charging, they automatically begin charging when
connected to either a wall outlet or your computer's USB port and they
automatically turn off when disconnected. They also automatically turn on
when you connect your iDevice to them to be charged using the supplied micro
USB cable.

Good luck with your shopping.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Maria,

Yes, a 3200 MAH battery can easily provide one full charge for an iPhone 6,
probably more like one and a half. The iPhone 6 has an 1,810 MAH battery so
3,200 is plenty.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the Anker products.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Hello list,
I have been following the discussion about external batteries with
interest and I thought to ask you if someone has experience with the
following model:
2nd Gen Astro Mini 3200mAh Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank
with PowerIQ Technology.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords
=[Apple+MFi+Certified]+Anker+2nd+Gen+Astro+Mini+3200mAh+Portable+Charger+Ext
ernal+Battery+Power+Bank+
Please, does anyone know of what size is the battery? It is 3200 mAh
battery, so do you think it would charge Iphone 6, let's say from 3% to
100% just once?
I currently have New Trent iCurve IMP70D 7000mAh External Battery Pack.
I am not sure if this model works with Iphone 6, I have not tried it
yet. I have bought it when I had Iphone 4. The capacity is great, but as
for size, it is not confortable for me to carry it in purse when I
travel, so I need something small in size, but big in capacity.
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

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RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

2015-09-11 Thread 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone

No problem. A good external battery is similar to your iPhone's battery and 
probably has a lifecycle of at least 500 charges. It should last you several 
years and eventually you probably notice that while you may have been able to 
charge your phone twice from 20% to 100% you suddenly only get up to 60% or 
something like that the second time around.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Sorry, perhaps I haven't explained myself.

I understood the fact that a battery charge would do one or two complete 
charges of your phone.  What I was asking was how many times you can charge the 
charger itself, thus giving 1-2 further charges of your phone?

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough 

Carol P

- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries


Hi Carol,

You can charge as long as the battery has power and how much that is depends 
on the capacity of the battery. A 3,200 MAH battery will charge a 5S 
probably close to twice from when you first get the low battery warning at 
20%, a 6 maybe not quite twice and a 6 Plus most likely just once and then 
maybe a little bit. It really depends on the battery, the phone, when you 
start charging and also what you do while it is charging. If, for example, 
your phone is at 20% when you plug it in and you then use a GPS app for a 
couple of hours while it is charging, the phone will use up a lot more power 
and it will charge slower.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

So, could you just clarify how these work.

Once you've charged up the charger and used it with your phone, how many
more times can you repeat this process?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries


Maria,

Sieghard has confirmed that the Anker Mini 3200mAh will charge your iPhone
at least one full time. I bought one of these models for a friend and it is
about the size of a lipstick. I have the Anker® Astro E1 5200mAh Ultra
Compact Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank with PowerIQ™
Technology and it is a bit larger at about 3 and a half inches long, and
inch and a half wide, and about a half inch deep. Small enough to be easily
transportable in a purse or small bag.

I like the Anker units because even though they use LED lights to display
how far along they are with charging, they automatically begin charging when
connected to either a wall outlet or your computer's USB port and they
automatically turn off when disconnected. They also automatically turn on
when you connect your iDevice to them to be charged using the supplied micro
USB cable.

Good luck with your shopping.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Maria,

Yes, a 3200 MAH battery can easily provide one full charge for an iPhone 6,
probably more like one and a half. The iPhone 6 has an 1,810 MAH battery so
3,200 is plenty.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the Anker products.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Hello list,
I have been following the discussion about external batteries with
interest and I thought to ask you if someone has experience with the
following model:
2nd Gen Astro Mini 3200mAh Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank
with PowerIQ Technology.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords
=[Apple+MFi+Certified]+Anker+2nd+Gen+Astro+Mini+3200mAh+Portable+Charger+Ext
ernal+Battery+Power+Bank+
Please, does anyone know of what size is the battery? It is 3200 mAh
battery, so do you think it would charge Iphone 6, let's say from 3% to
100% just once?
I currently have New Trent iCurve IMP70D 7000mAh External Battery Pack.
I am not sure if this model works with Iphone 6, I have not tried it
yet. I have bought it when I had Iphone 4. The capacity is great, but as
for size, it is not confortable for me to carry it in purse when I
travel, so I need something small in size, but big in capacity.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Wi

Re: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Great.  That's what I thought would be the case and it's good to have it 
confirmed!  

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

No problem. A good external battery is similar to your iPhone's battery and 
probably has a lifecycle of at least 500 charges. It should last you several 
years and eventually you probably notice that while you may have been able 
to charge your phone twice from 20% to 100% you suddenly only get up to 60% 
or something like that the second time around.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Sorry, perhaps I haven't explained myself.

I understood the fact that a battery charge would do one or two complete 
charges of your phone.  What I was asking was how many times you can charge 
the charger itself, thus giving 1-2 further charges of your phone?

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough 

Carol P

- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Hi Carol,

You can charge as long as the battery has power and how much that is depends
on the capacity of the battery. A 3,200 MAH battery will charge a 5S
probably close to twice from when you first get the low battery warning at
20%, a 6 maybe not quite twice and a 6 Plus most likely just once and then
maybe a little bit. It really depends on the battery, the phone, when you
start charging and also what you do while it is charging. If, for example,
your phone is at 20% when you plug it in and you then use a GPS app for a
couple of hours while it is charging, the phone will use up a lot more power
and it will charge slower.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

So, could you just clarify how these work.

Once you've charged up the charger and used it with your phone, how many
more times can you repeat this process?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Lemly" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Maria,

Sieghard has confirmed that the Anker Mini 3200mAh will charge your iPhone
at least one full time. I bought one of these models for a friend and it is
about the size of a lipstick. I have the Anker® Astro E1 5200mAh Ultra
Compact Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank with PowerIQ™
Technology and it is a bit larger at about 3 and a half inches long, and
inch and a half wide, and about a half inch deep. Small enough to be easily
transportable in a purse or small bag.

I like the Anker units because even though they use LED lights to display
how far along they are with charging, they automatically begin charging when
connected to either a wall outlet or your computer's USB port and they
automatically turn off when disconnected. They also automatically turn on
when you connect your iDevice to them to be charged using the supplied micro
USB cable.

Good luck with your shopping.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Maria,

Yes, a 3200 MAH battery can easily provide one full charge for an iPhone 6,
probably more like one and a half. The iPhone 6 has an 1,810 MAH battery so
3,200 is plenty.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the Anker products.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please, I would like to know more about external batteries

Hello list,
I have been following the discussion about external batteries with
interest and I thought to ask you if someone has experience with the
following model:
2nd Gen Astro Mini 3200mAh Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank
with PowerIQ Technology.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords
=[Apple+MFi+Certified]+Anker+2nd+Gen+Astro+Mini+3200mAh+Portable+Charger+Ext
ernal+Battery+Power+Bank+
Please, does anyone know of what size is the battery? It is 3200 mAh
battery, so do you think it would charge Iphone 6, let's say from 3% to
100% just once?
I currently have New Trent iCurve IMP70D 7000mAh External Battery Pack.
I am not sure if this model works with Iph

Main Menu

2015-09-11 Thread Gary Petraccaro

Main Menu is available in the iTunes Store.  Can someone give a lead on how to 
access that so as to subscribe?
Thanks.

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Unable to update apps since updating iOS

2015-09-11 Thread Kimber Gardner

Hi All,

Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
a connecting message but nothing more.

I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
avail.

Any ideas what might be going on?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Kimber


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A Question About Purchasing Descriptive Video Service Enabled Movies from iTunes

2015-09-11 Thread 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone

Guys

It seems ridiculous that there are described movies in the iTunes store which 
don’t say they are described. If it doesn’t say that they are, they may as well 
not bother having them.

I am going to write to Apple Accessibility about this. Anyone else feel free to 
join in.



Obviously, it is great that people like Netflix are introducing described 
content, but if these tracks are available, why aren’t they being included by 
all the providers? Perhaps Amazon might like to join in? I won’t hold my breath.

Here in the UK, streaming services are excluded from the duty on broadcasters 
to provide a proportion of content with description. If this is how we are all 
going to watch TV, then why shouldn't it be subject to the same regulation?

I feel a rant coming on.

Best

Adrienne

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Re: A new adventure with the IPhone and VarioUltra

Baum has very good support. They also have a list.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
>  
> First, Apple doesn’t do a great job with braille, so you have to get used to 
> some odd behaviors.
> For example, enter the word “toast” in contracted braille using the “S T” 
> sign.
> If you hit space immediately after the S T sign, you will be fine.
> But, if you hesitate more than about a half a second, you will get “toastill” 
> because it is going to expand the contraction “s t” into the word still.
>  
> You don’t get 8 dots when you are using contracted braille.  So, the 7,8 will 
> be gone unless it is the cursor.
>  
> You should be able to pan to the right like you would reading a document. 
> I have not yet gotten to use the Vario Ultra, but that is the normal way to  
> read through text.
> If you want to skip down a line, you would need to adjust the rotor to lines 
> and use space plus dots 3 or 6 I believe.
>  
> Supposedly, BAUM USA will provide support if you call them.  That might be 
> faster than waiting for replies on this list.
>  
> Also, make sure you have firmware version 1.3 installed.  It will make paring 
> with your computer much better since it isn’t supposed to randomly change 
> which channel you are connecting through.
>  
> Later,
> Richard
>  
> Enjoy,
> Richard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Portillo
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; 'Richard Turner' 
> Subject: RE: A new adventure with the IPhone and VarioUltra
>  
> Hi Richard and list,
>  
> Great to hear from you.  I’m new to using one of these babies.
>  
> I’ve been reading the users guide and have been familiarizing myself with it 
> and its layout.  It’s very, very cool; however, I’m quite frustrated because 
> I still don’t know what I’m doing.
> For instance, I paired it to my IPhone, but when I input text, it is doing 
> some very funky things.  I don’t know what settings I need to use.  When I 
> use Braille on a regular basis, I’m so used to writing in Grade 2 Braille but 
> don’t know if that’s the thing to do or not with this machine and on the 
> IPhone.  It was entering some weird things.
>  
> I have the output setting to be uncontracted eight dot braille, but I also 
> know there’s a toggle command to change it to contracted Braille.  I notice 
> when I do that command, dots 7 and 8 go away.  Interesting.
> But, what do I do about inputting data?
> Also, I’m not quite sure how to advance the display to the next line, as it’s 
> only a 20 cell display.
>  
> I’m having fun figuring it out, but I definitely need some help here.
>  
> I also want to pair it with my JAWS computer and tablet, but one step at a 
> time.  Any help with settings and such would greatly be appreciated.
> Such a cool machine!!
> Jim
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A new adventure with the IPhone and VarioUltra
>  
>  
> Just go through all the settings in the braille settings page and figure out 
> what you want.
> I do recommend turning on the one that says show keyboard, or something like 
> that. The command is space plus SH sign to toggle the onscreen keyboard, 
> otherwise, while the braille display is connected, you won't be able to bring 
> up the onscreen keyboard.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:36 AM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
> 
> Aside from just pairing it, will I need to go to any special settings on the 
> actual phone? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6!
> 
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Not only will you be able to do contracted braille and all that good stuff, 
> but you can do UEB which becomes the standard on January 4, 2016.
> Just remember to pair the display by going into settings, general, 
> accessibility, VoiceOver, Braille.
> Explore those settings because that is where you determine your input and 
> output settings, etc.
> Enjoy,
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 6:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim.
>  
> Here is a link to a list of comon braille commands:
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202132
> I think there has been added a few since this list. Feel free to ask any 
> question you have. I hope you enjoy your new display.
>  
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 10/09/2015 kl. 09.20 skrev Jim Portillo :
>  
> Hello everyone,
>  
> Well, I did it, and I think I’m going to be happy I did.  I got a 20 cell 
> VarioUltra so that I can use with things like my tablet and IPhone.  However, 
> I have never used one of these Braille displays with the phone and have 
> absolutely no idea what I’m doing.  I literally got it a few hours ago, so 
> I’m still playing with and learning the machine.  However, if any users could 
> help me get started

Re: Force Touch gets redefined in the iPhone 6s with 3D Touch

2015-09-11 Thread Devin Prater

I think Apple accessibility aren't nearly as strong as they once were, judging 
by how many bugs have been in iOS since 7. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> They haven't seen it yet? Clearly, I don't get something. I thought the 
> accessibility team were the people who monitored how voiceover got 
> implemented or got taken into account when things were done. If they haven't 
> seen it, who the heck is making sure voiceover is properly taken into account 
> if possible? Color me confused.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:27 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I asked Apple accessibility and since they haven't seen it yet they are 
>> wondering the same.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is an interesting article. I keep wondering how they will efficiently 
>>> implement voiceover in conjunction with this new technology. Reading this 
>>> article, it seems like it might be hard to do, especially with the Peak 
>>> part.
>>> Mary 
>>> http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/10/force-touch-gets-redefined-in-the-iphone-6s-with-3d-touch
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Rich Ring

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that 
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the other 
apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game 
> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through the 
> mac or PC.
> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look 
> like I am.
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Re: QUESTION ABOUT USING GPS APPS

2015-09-11 Thread Richard Turner

Bus stops depend on the city you are in, and how much the bus service makes 
their gps info available.
Blind Square has tons of bus stops where I live.
Whether they will announce automatically, I am not sure since I keep mine set 
to not announce everything because I don't want all that information being 
spoken all the time.
But, I do know I can search for bus stops nearby, or even by their stop ID.
Richard

M



> On Sep 11, 2015, at 12:42 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
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> 
> My experience with Blindsquare is that unless someone has been to a position 
> before and marked it as a public POI,  it'll not show, 
> so bus stops would be a prime contender for this ommition.  There are 
> separate apps for bus stops and stations mind,  but it is not 
> something I'd use blindsquare to depend on for.
> Indeed, on the time I tried it,  it had a train station marked which was a 
> rarely used unattended station, while the main one in 
> town wasn't listed at all.  Also,  I did find a few POI's called bus stop,  
> but guess thoese were personal and had no right being 
> made public.
> 
> So choosing the right app for the job is going to be the thing.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "R Van Lant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 6:04 AM
> Subject: QUESTION ABOUT USING GPS APPS
> 
> 
> To date,  the only gps-like app that I have used is Sendero Look Around.
> I'm really wanting to try Blind Square and other apps, but I'm wondering how
> these work if your phone automatically locks the screen after 5 minutes.  Do
> the gps apps keep the screen from locking?  What are best practices around
> this?  I'd really like to have something that tells me about stores I'm
> passing and points of interest such as particular bus stops, since it's hard
> to find the ones that are in the middle of a block.  What can you tell me?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: QUESTION ABOUT USING GPS APPS

2015-09-11 Thread Terje Strømberg

You can make POI’s for bus stops i.e. the same as «favorites/own places». 
Personally i use a bus route that is only 5-6 stops. Had to call the bus 
support to get the adresses right after setting a bus stop as a favorite. Blind 
Square sometimes save it as an unknown adress for me, so i had to call to give 
it the right bus stop name. This is for routes that don’t have an app Blind 
Square can use.

Take care


11. sep. 2015 kl. 14:33 skrev Richard Turner :

Bus stops depend on the city you are in, and how much the bus service makes 
their gps info available.
Blind Square has tons of bus stops where I live.
Whether they will announce automatically, I am not sure since I keep mine set 
to not announce everything because I don't want all that information being 
spoken all the time.
But, I do know I can search for bus stops nearby, or even by their stop ID.
Richard

M



> On Sep 11, 2015, at 12:42 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
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> 
> My experience with Blindsquare is that unless someone has been to a position 
> before and marked it as a public POI,  it'll not show, 
> so bus stops would be a prime contender for this ommition.  There are 
> separate apps for bus stops and stations mind,  but it is not 
> something I'd use blindsquare to depend on for.
> Indeed, on the time I tried it,  it had a train station marked which was a 
> rarely used unattended station, while the main one in 
> town wasn't listed at all.  Also,  I did find a few POI's called bus stop,  
> but guess thoese were personal and had no right being 
> made public.
> 
> So choosing the right app for the job is going to be the thing.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "R Van Lant" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 6:04 AM
> Subject: QUESTION ABOUT USING GPS APPS
> 
> 
> To date,  the only gps-like app that I have used is Sendero Look Around.
> I'm really wanting to try Blind Square and other apps, but I'm wondering how
> these work if your phone automatically locks the screen after 5 minutes.  Do
> the gps apps keep the screen from locking?  What are best practices around
> this?  I'd really like to have something that tells me about stores I'm
> passing and points of interest such as particular bus stops, since it's hard
> to find the ones that are in the middle of a block.  What can you tell me?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
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Apple Accessibility lately (was: Force Touch gets redefined in the iPhone 6s with 3D Touch)

2015-09-11 Thread Alex Hall

I'd argue that point. Consider that, since iOS7, the accessibility team has 
been working on VoiceOver for tvOS and watchOS, two things no one even knew 
were coming but which must have been in the works for years. They've also done 
a lot on OS X in terms of dictation, plus the other accessibility features 
across all Apple's devices. Remember that accessibility isn't just VoiceOver; 
it's dictation, zoom, gray scale, color filtering, white point, reduce motion, 
switch control, guided access, and plenty more, and that's now across four 
operating systems and a bunch of devices. This all says nothing of the new 
features they've added, like extending the rotor, adding braille input directly 
to VoiceOver, porting the Alex voice to iOS, and, well, I don't have to re-list 
all the recent accessibility features of all Apple'd devices. Yes, there are 
bugs, but that seems more of an indication that they need to hire more people, 
not that they're "not strong anymore". They've just focused more on making sure 
*all* Apple products are accessible, and there are only so many hours in a day. 
Remember, too, what a disaster iOS8.0 was for sighted users? It's not like 
accessibility was the only area affected; news sites all across the web were 
lambasting Apple for iOS8.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 08:05, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I think Apple accessibility aren't nearly as strong as they once were, 
> judging by how many bugs have been in iOS since 7. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> They haven't seen it yet? Clearly, I don't get something. I thought the 
>> accessibility team were the people who monitored how voiceover got 
>> implemented or got taken into account when things were done. If they haven't 
>> seen it, who the heck is making sure voiceover is properly taken into 
>> account if possible? Color me confused.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:27 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I asked Apple accessibility and since they haven't seen it yet they are 
>>> wondering the same.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 This is an interesting article. I keep wondering how they will efficiently 
 implement voiceover in conjunction with this new technology. Reading this 
 article, it seems like it might be hard to do, especially with the Peak 
 part.
 Mary 
 http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/10/force-touch-gets-redefined-in-the-iphone-6s-with-3d-touch
 
 
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Wayne Merritt

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
> And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
> doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
> other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game
>> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through
>> the mac or PC.
>> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look
>> like I am.
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Re: Force Touch gets redefined in the iPhone 6s with 3D Touch

I disagree with you. The problems which Apple had with 8.0 were
company wide. That is why Apple spent most of it's efforts getting rid
of bugs for 9.0 instead of new features.

On 9/11/15, Devin Prater  wrote:
> I think Apple accessibility aren't nearly as strong as they once were,
> judging by how many bugs have been in iOS since 7.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> They haven't seen it yet? Clearly, I don't get something. I thought the
>> accessibility team were the people who monitored how voiceover got
>> implemented or got taken into account when things were done. If they
>> haven't seen it, who the heck is making sure voiceover is properly taken
>> into account if possible? Color me confused.
>> Mary
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:27 PM, John Diakogeorgiou 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I asked Apple accessibility and since they haven't seen it yet they are
>>> wondering the same.
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
 On Sep 10, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 This is an interesting article. I keep wondering how they will
 efficiently implement voiceover in conjunction with this new technology.
 Reading this article, it seems like it might be hard to do, especially
 with the Peak part.
 Mary
 http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/10/force-touch-gets-redefined-in-the-iphone-6s-with-3d-touch


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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. So 
until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
computer, I suppose.
Hopefully it’ll be added soon.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
> apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
> Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
> repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
> broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
> want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
> than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
> a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
> my home team without jumping through hoops.
> 
> Wayne
> 
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>> And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
>> doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
>> other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game
>>> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through
>>> the mac or PC.
>>> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look
>>> like I am.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

2015-09-11 Thread Brian Moore


and where might I find me one of these in Canada?
I baught one of those ones everyone was talking about that could pair 
with 6 devices and it was awesome for about two weeks and then z a q and 
1 all failed.  very odd because tab and caps lock work but left column 
of letter keys failed which makes this thing useless and shipping to the 
states for an rma with customs fun etc would cost more than the thing 
was worth.  it cost me 50 bucks canadian.


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On 09/10/2015 10:04 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-bluetooth-keyboard-excelent

Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's only a 
quarter-inch thick.


not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it 
at full speed.


At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:

Hi all

Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good 
full-sized external bluetooth keyboard that would work  well with 
IPad? My current one has finally given up on me, and despite trying 
everything I can think of itt just doesn't want to work any more. So 
I'm going to have to get a new one. So any recommendations of good 
products would be much appreciated.


Thanks.

Eleanor

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Re: Main Menu

2015-09-11 Thread Russ Kiehne

Main Menu Url= http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php

From: Gary Petraccaro 
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Subject: Main Menu

Main Menu is available in the iTunes Store.  Can someone give a lead on how to 
access that so as to subscribe?
Thanks.

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Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

2015-09-11 Thread martinnelson42

Hi; I have had the same problem. I found that if I remain signed in the apps 
will update. I hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
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> Hi All,
> 
> Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
> my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
> updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
> a connecting message but nothing more.
> 
> I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
> switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
> avail.
> 
> Any ideas what might be going on?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
> 
> Kimber
> 
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Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

Are you using 8.4 or 8.4.1? If 8.4 maybe try going to 8.4.1 Also maybe
try resetting your network settings. If nothing else wait till 9.0
comes out.

On 9/11/15, martinnelso...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi; I have had the same problem. I found that if I remain signed in the apps
> will update. I hope this helps.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
>> my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
>> updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
>> a connecting message but nothing more.
>>
>> I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
>> switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
>> avail.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be going on?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
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Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

2015-09-11 Thread Kimber Gardner

For how long? I've left the update process active for as long as 30
minutes and nothing changed.

K

On 9/11/15, martinnelso...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi; I have had the same problem. I found that if I remain signed in the apps
> will update. I hope this helps.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
>> my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
>> updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
>> a connecting message but nothing more.
>>
>> I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
>> switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
>> avail.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be going on?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
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Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

2015-09-11 Thread Alan Lemly

Kimber, 

I don't think I've had that problem but you might try settings, iTunes and Apps 
store, apple I'd, and signing out and then signing back in again. 

If that doesn't work, try settings, general, reset, network settings and see if 
resetting those corrects your problem. You will have to sign in again to any 
protected wifi networks you've previously used including your home wifi so make 
sure you have your password before doing this step. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 3:54 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
> my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
> updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
> a connecting message but nothing more.
> 
> I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
> switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
> avail.
> 
> Any ideas what might be going on?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
> 
> Kimber
> 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

2015-09-11 Thread Aman Singer

Hello Brian and all,

The Keys to go is available at BestBuy. I would try it first, the
typing on it always seemed to be very mushy for me, but that's
strictly personal preference. The Logitech k810/k811 is available at
http://www.canadacomputers.com
or
http://www.ncix.com
I hope that's of use.
Aman

On 9/11/15, Brian Moore  wrote:
> and where might I find me one of these in Canada?
> I baught one of those ones everyone was talking about that could pair
> with 6 devices and it was awesome for about two weeks and then z a q and
> 1 all failed.  very odd because tab and caps lock work but left column
> of letter keys failed which makes this thing useless and shipping to the
> states for an rma with customs fun etc would cost more than the thing
> was worth.  it cost me 50 bucks canadian.
>
> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
> follow me on twitter:
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> On 09/10/2015 10:04 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>> http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-bluetooth-keyboard-excelent
>>
>> Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's only a
>> quarter-inch thick.
>>
>> not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it
>> at full speed.
>>
>> At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good
>>> full-sized external bluetooth keyboard that would work  well with
>>> IPad? My current one has finally given up on me, and despite trying
>>> everything I can think of itt just doesn't want to work any more. So
>>> I'm going to have to get a new one. So any recommendations of good
>>> products would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

2015-09-11 Thread Brian Moore

Hi Aman.  cc has a store right near here so this might be a thing. can 
go grab one any day.

thanks.
Brian.

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On 09/11/2015 10:37 AM, Aman Singer wrote:

Hello Brian and all,

The Keys to go is available at BestBuy. I would try it first, the
typing on it always seemed to be very mushy for me, but that's
strictly personal preference. The Logitech k810/k811 is available at
http://www.canadacomputers.com
or
http://www.ncix.com
I hope that's of use.
Aman

On 9/11/15, Brian Moore  wrote:

and where might I find me one of these in Canada?
I baught one of those ones everyone was talking about that could pair
with 6 devices and it was awesome for about two weeks and then z a q and
1 all failed.  very odd because tab and caps lock work but left column
of letter keys failed which makes this thing useless and shipping to the
states for an rma with customs fun etc would cost more than the thing
was worth.  it cost me 50 bucks canadian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 09/10/2015 10:04 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-bluetooth-keyboard-excelent

Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's only a
quarter-inch thick.

not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it
at full speed.

At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:

Hi all

Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good
full-sized external bluetooth keyboard that would work  well with
IPad? My current one has finally given up on me, and despite trying
everything I can think of itt just doesn't want to work any more. So
I'm going to have to get a new one. So any recommendations of good
products would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Eleanor

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Re: Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there proved to be for iOS 8.0?

2015-09-11 Thread Keith B.

So pardon my ignorance. But how does one go about becoming a beta tester 
for the new IOS? And is there a cost for this priviletge? Thanks.

On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 12:50:40 PM UTC-5, Kramlinger, Keith G., 
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> Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there 
> proved to be for iOS 8.0? 
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RE: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

Hi Kimber,

Did you do any sort of preparation before doing the update, e.g. backup your 
phone, force quit all apps, perform a Reset all Network Settings? John's 
suggestion to go to Settings > General > Reset and do a Reset All Network 
Settings would also be my advice. Remember after your phone reboots you have to 
reconnect again to your WiFi and enter the password. Following the simple steps 
I outlined above can prevent most upgrade issues.
One last comment, if you have given your iPhone a custom name in Settings > 
General > About you will have to enter that name again after a Reset All 
Network Settings since that procedure will put the default name back.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Kimber Gardner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

For how long? I've left the update process active for as long as 30
minutes and nothing changed.

K

On 9/11/15, martinnelso...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi; I have had the same problem. I found that if I remain signed in the apps
> will update. I hope this helps.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
>> my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
>> updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
>> a connecting message but nothing more.
>>
>> I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
>> switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
>> avail.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be going on?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Paul Richard McGann


hello,,

have you notified apple headquarter about this?
since apple had upgraded ios 8.4.1, then that might be some issues.  because 
the engineers of apps might have not realized of the effects of the way.


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. So 
until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
computer, I suppose.

Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and 
game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only 
through

the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t 
look

like I am.

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RE: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

2015-09-11 Thread 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone

Hi Brian,

I bought mine from the Apple online store. I just had a look and compared the 4 
sources I would usually check, 2 of which Aman already mentioned: Appl Store, 
Amazon.ca, NCIX.com and CanadaComputers.com.
Here are the prices I found from highest to lowest and shortened links for the 
product on Amazon.ca and the Canadian Apple online store:

NCIX.com: $114.99 (usually shipping is not free with NCIX.com)
CanadaComputers.com: $110.88 (not sure about their shipping policy, but in the 
case of this item they also mention it's not available online and can only be 
special ordered for in-store pickup)
Amazon.ca: $109.99 with free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/pxgjepe
Apple online Store: $99.95 with free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/nqmx3qd


Good luck,
Sieghard

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Aman Singer
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard 
that works well with IPad?

Hello Brian and all,

The Keys to go is available at BestBuy. I would try it first, the
typing on it always seemed to be very mushy for me, but that's
strictly personal preference. The Logitech k810/k811 is available at
http://www.canadacomputers.com
or
http://www.ncix.com
I hope that's of use.
Aman

On 9/11/15, Brian Moore  wrote:
> and where might I find me one of these in Canada?
> I baught one of those ones everyone was talking about that could pair
> with 6 devices and it was awesome for about two weeks and then z a q and
> 1 all failed.  very odd because tab and caps lock work but left column
> of letter keys failed which makes this thing useless and shipping to the
> states for an rma with customs fun etc would cost more than the thing
> was worth.  it cost me 50 bucks canadian.
>
> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
> follow me on twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
>
> On 09/10/2015 10:04 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>> http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-bluetooth-keyboard-excelent
>>
>> Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's only a
>> quarter-inch thick.
>>
>> not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it
>> at full speed.
>>
>> At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good
>>> full-sized external bluetooth keyboard that would work  well with
>>> IPad? My current one has finally given up on me, and despite trying
>>> everything I can think of itt just doesn't want to work any more. So
>>> I'm going to have to get a new one. So any recommendations of good
>>> products would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS


Just asking another question about this ...

Is the name you give your phone (so not the default) only used when you're 
working with iTunes or would you have to reset it before getting info back 
over the air from iCloud, for example?


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: Unable to update apps since updating iOS


Hi Kimber,

Did you do any sort of preparation before doing the update, e.g. backup your 
phone, force quit all apps, perform a Reset all Network Settings? John's 
suggestion to go to Settings > General > Reset and do a Reset All Network 
Settings would also be my advice. Remember after your phone reboots you have 
to reconnect again to your WiFi and enter the password. Following the simple 
steps I outlined above can prevent most upgrade issues.
One last comment, if you have given your iPhone a custom name in Settings > 
General > About you will have to enter that name again after a Reset All 
Network Settings since that procedure will put the default name back.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kimber Gardner

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

For how long? I've left the update process active for as long as 30
minutes and nothing changed.

K

On 9/11/15, martinnelso...@gmail.com  wrote:
Hi; I have had the same problem. I found that if I remain signed in the 
apps

will update. I hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Kimber Gardner 
wrote:

Hi All,

Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
a connecting message but nothing more.

I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
avail.

Any ideas what might be going on?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Kimber


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RE: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

2015-09-11 Thread Neal Ewers

I love my Logitech 810 and 811 keyboards. If I had known that the 810 works 
with both windows and iDevices, I would not have purchased the 811. They are 
both the same with respect to feel.  They are nice to type on in that the keys 
are a bit concaved and unlike the Apple Keyboard, there is enough space between 
them that I don't press two at once. It just fits my hand.

Neal


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard 
that works well with IPad?

Hi Brian,

I bought mine from the Apple online store. I just had a look and compared the 4 
sources I would usually check, 2 of which Aman already mentioned: Appl Store, 
Amazon.ca, NCIX.com and CanadaComputers.com.
Here are the prices I found from highest to lowest and shortened links for the 
product on Amazon.ca and the Canadian Apple online store:

NCIX.com: $114.99 (usually shipping is not free with NCIX.com)
CanadaComputers.com: $110.88 (not sure about their shipping policy, but in the 
case of this item they also mention it's not available online and can only be 
special ordered for in-store pickup)
Amazon.ca: $109.99 with free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/pxgjepe Apple online 
Store: $99.95 with free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/nqmx3qd


Good luck,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard 
that works well with IPad?

Hello Brian and all,

The Keys to go is available at BestBuy. I would try it first, the typing on it 
always seemed to be very mushy for me, but that's strictly personal preference. 
The Logitech k810/k811 is available at http://www.canadacomputers.com or 
http://www.ncix.com I hope that's of use.
Aman

On 9/11/15, Brian Moore  wrote:
> and where might I find me one of these in Canada?
> I baught one of those ones everyone was talking about that could pair 
> with 6 devices and it was awesome for about two weeks and then z a q 
> and
> 1 all failed.  very odd because tab and caps lock work but left column 
> of letter keys failed which makes this thing useless and shipping to 
> the states for an rma with customs fun etc would cost more than the 
> thing was worth.  it cost me 50 bucks canadian.
>
> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
> follow me on twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
>
> On 09/10/2015 10:04 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>> http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-
>> bluetooth-keyboard-excelent
>>
>> Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's only a 
>> quarter-inch thick.
>>
>> not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it 
>> at full speed.
>>
>> At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good 
>>> full-sized external bluetooth keyboard that would work  well with 
>>> IPad? My current one has finally given up on me, and despite trying 
>>> everything I can think of itt just doesn't want to work any more. So 
>>> I'm going to have to get a new one. So any recommendations of good 
>>> products would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

2015-09-11 Thread Brian Moore


thanks. apple store it will be.
thanks
Brian.

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On 09/11/2015 11:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Brian,

I bought mine from the Apple online store. I just had a look and compared the 4 
sources I would usually check, 2 of which Aman already mentioned: Appl Store, 
Amazon.ca, NCIX.com and CanadaComputers.com.
Here are the prices I found from highest to lowest and shortened links for the 
product on Amazon.ca and the Canadian Apple online store:

NCIX.com: $114.99 (usually shipping is not free with NCIX.com)
CanadaComputers.com: $110.88 (not sure about their shipping policy, but in the 
case of this item they also mention it's not available online and can only be 
special ordered for in-store pickup)
Amazon.ca: $109.99 with free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/pxgjepe
Apple online Store: $99.95 with free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/nqmx3qd


Good luck,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Aman Singer
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard 
that works well with IPad?

Hello Brian and all,

The Keys to go is available at BestBuy. I would try it first, the
typing on it always seemed to be very mushy for me, but that's
strictly personal preference. The Logitech k810/k811 is available at
http://www.canadacomputers.com
or
http://www.ncix.com
I hope that's of use.
Aman

On 9/11/15, Brian Moore  wrote:

and where might I find me one of these in Canada?
I baught one of those ones everyone was talking about that could pair
with 6 devices and it was awesome for about two weeks and then z a q and
1 all failed.  very odd because tab and caps lock work but left column
of letter keys failed which makes this thing useless and shipping to the
states for an rma with customs fun etc would cost more than the thing
was worth.  it cost me 50 bucks canadian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 09/10/2015 10:04 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-bluetooth-keyboard-excelent

Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's only a
quarter-inch thick.

not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it
at full speed.

At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:

Hi all

Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good
full-sized external bluetooth keyboard that would work  well with
IPad? My current one has finally given up on me, and despite trying
everything I can think of itt just doesn't want to work any more. So
I'm going to have to get a new one. So any recommendations of good
products would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Eleanor

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Re: Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there proved to be for iOS 8.0?

On your device using safari go to beta.apple.com/profile It will give
you the opportunity to install the profile to your phone. Then you
simply update your software as always.

On 9/11/15, Keith B.  wrote:
> So pardon my ignorance. But how does one go about becoming a beta tester
> for the new IOS? And is there a cost for this priviletge? Thanks.
>
> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 12:50:40 PM UTC-5, Kramlinger, Keith G.,
>
> M.D. wrote:
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>> Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there
>> proved to be for iOS 8.0?
>>
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iOS 9 includes ‘Hey Siri’ voice training to help Siri better recognize your voice

2015-09-11 Thread Mary Otten

http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/11/os-9-siri-voice-recognition-training-hey-siri/


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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

It’s not Apple that needs to be notified. It’s the NFL that needs to add the 
ability to the app.

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Paul Richard McGann  
> wrote:
> 
> hello,,
> 
> have you notified apple headquarter about this?
> since apple had upgraded ios 8.4.1, then that might be some issues.  because 
> the engineers of apps might have not realized of the effects of the way.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Daniel Miller
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Rich Ring
> Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.
> 
> Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. So 
> until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
> computer, I suppose.
> Hopefully it’ll be added soon.
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
>> apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
>> Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
>> repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
>> broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
>> want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
>> than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
>> a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
>> my home team without jumping through hoops.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
>>> And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
>>> doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
>>> other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
 On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game
 pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through
 the mac or PC.
 I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look
 like I am.
 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

2015-09-11 Thread Les Kriegler

Neil, you were probably very wise to buy both keyboards. I try to get away with 
the 811 on my surface pro, but it didn't work properly. I spoke with logitech 
representative who stated that they were delay issues that affected how the 
keys would respond. So in effect, I'm glad I have both, and I think you were 
wise to do the same.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Neal Ewers  wrote:
> 
> I love my Logitech 810 and 811 keyboards. If I had known that the 810 works 
> with both windows and iDevices, I would not have purchased the 811. They are 
> both the same with respect to feel.  They are nice to type on in that the 
> keys are a bit concaved and unlike the Apple Keyboard, there is enough space 
> between them that I don't press two at once. It just fits my hand.
> 
> Neal
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth 
> keybboard that works well with IPad?
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> I bought mine from the Apple online store. I just had a look and compared the 
> 4 sources I would usually check, 2 of which Aman already mentioned: Appl 
> Store, Amazon.ca, NCIX.com and CanadaComputers.com.
> Here are the prices I found from highest to lowest and shortened links for 
> the product on Amazon.ca and the Canadian Apple online store:
> 
> NCIX.com: $114.99 (usually shipping is not free with NCIX.com)
> CanadaComputers.com: $110.88 (not sure about their shipping policy, but in 
> the case of this item they also mention it's not available online and can 
> only be special ordered for in-store pickup)
> Amazon.ca: $109.99 with free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/pxgjepe Apple 
> online Store: $99.95 with free shipping: http://tinyurl.com/nqmx3qd
> 
> 
> Good luck,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aman Singer
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth 
> keybboard that works well with IPad?
> 
> Hello Brian and all,
> 
> The Keys to go is available at BestBuy. I would try it first, the typing on 
> it always seemed to be very mushy for me, but that's strictly personal 
> preference. The Logitech k810/k811 is available at 
> http://www.canadacomputers.com or http://www.ncix.com I hope that's of use.
> Aman
> 
>> On 9/11/15, Brian Moore  wrote:
>> and where might I find me one of these in Canada?
>> I baught one of those ones everyone was talking about that could pair 
>> with 6 devices and it was awesome for about two weeks and then z a q 
>> and
>> 1 all failed.  very odd because tab and caps lock work but left column 
>> of letter keys failed which makes this thing useless and shipping to 
>> the states for an rma with customs fun etc would cost more than the 
>> thing was worth.  it cost me 50 bucks canadian.
>> 
>> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
>> follow me on twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
>> 
>>> On 09/10/2015 10:04 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-
>>> bluetooth-keyboard-excelent
>>> 
>>> Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's only a 
>>> quarter-inch thick.
>>> 
>>> not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it 
>>> at full speed.
>>> 
>>> At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good 
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Re: Force Touch gets redefined in the iPhone 6s with 3D Touch

2015-09-11 Thread Devin Prater

While new features are good, the accessibility team still has a long way to go 
with even the basics of braille. For example, most of the time, when I type, 
the braille display says "bottum of document" when I press space. Secondly, iOS 
has never been able to show formatting info like italics or bold to the braille 
display. But the Mac can't either. I know braille isn't used much at all, but 
neither was Apple in the early 2000's. Can't Apple root for the underdog, like 
its loyal fans did for it? Braille has been avalable on many versions, but the 
presenting of braille has never changed for the better at all, on Mac nor iOS. 
I have reported all the problems I've had on plenty versions of the beta, and 
they still are there, even though example, the mail freezing after sending a 
message is a constant bug, that is, it happens all the time, and system logs 
back it up. But ah well, if Apple want to lie and say iOS9 is the most stable 
version they've ever released, then fine. The fact that Apple sn't even support 
MTP for the Vario Ultra, my braille display, is disheartening and makes the "it 
just works" attitude applied to Apple just not true anymore. I feel like 
they've just gotten too big, too full and happy, so that they have forgotten 
what  like to be small. 

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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:18 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> I disagree with you. The problems which Apple had with 8.0 were
> company wide. That is why Apple spent most of it's efforts getting rid
> of bugs for 9.0 instead of new features.
> 
>> On 9/11/15, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> I think Apple accessibility aren't nearly as strong as they once were,
>> judging by how many bugs have been in iOS since 7.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> They haven't seen it yet? Clearly, I don't get something. I thought the
>>> accessibility team were the people who monitored how voiceover got
>>> implemented or got taken into account when things were done. If they
>>> haven't seen it, who the heck is making sure voiceover is properly taken
>>> into account if possible? Color me confused.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:27 PM, John Diakogeorgiou 
 wrote:

 I asked Apple accessibility and since they haven't seen it yet they are
 wondering the same.

 John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 10, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> This is an interesting article. I keep wondering how they will
> efficiently implement voiceover in conjunction with this new technology.
> Reading this article, it seems like it might be hard to do, especially
> with the Peak part.
> Mary
> http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/10/force-touch-gets-redefined-in-the-iphone-6s-with-3d-touch
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Re: iOS 9 includes ‘Hey Siri’ voice training to help Siri better recognize your voice

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listening to the presentation on Wednesday. During the presentation,
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Re: Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there proved to be for iOS 8.0?

I think every list has it's share of drama kings and queens.  It's the nature 
of the beast on lists which was why somebody invented this nifty little thing 
called the delete button or if your using a QWERTY keyboard, the delete key.


Alan

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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:14 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
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> Thank you Sean, very much appreciated. You're right don't beta testers you 
> don't want bridge and NDA. All I can say, is I have to much stuff going on on 
> my inbox to listen to all this drama.
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>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 1:07 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> Well said. Bottom line is, respect the NDA or don't beta test. And to the 
>> person that said that this is delusional, I'd love to hear you say that to 
>> Cara herself.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
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>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 12:33 AM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yo personally, I don't care what You think. There's no problem with helping 
>>> up the owner of a group especially if she doesn't have time to look at in 
>>> every messaging here. And especially when a friend that was a lot of what's 
>>> not allowed. I think after this message I'll be copying your address and 
>>> emailing Cara and let her know that you're just being a snob. I think you 
>>> might want to read your MBA before you think about posting or asking any 
>>> questions next time. People like you, make me want to leave the list.
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 On Sep 10, 2015, at 4:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
 wrote:
 
 I'm sure that Apple will go after me for telling a bunch of blind
 people that their software is less buggy than in the past especially
 when anyone of you can go out and get it today. If the moderator
 agrees with Joseph then that's fine but it's not his business what I
 have to say. I was trying to help someone else. This list is busy
 enough that we don't need others correcting what we do unless they are
 a moderator.
 
 On 9/10/15, Shaf  wrote:
> Such delusion.
> 
> 
>> On 9/10/2015 10:20 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
>> Your quite correct Joseph.  Beta testers should remain silent until the
>> version hits the streets to the public.  Failure to do so can have very
>> searious reprocussions.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 1:14 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, others can correct me if I'm wrong but the public beta is not
>>> to be discussed with the public if you're not using the beta. Others
>>> can correct me if I am wrong.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> Email
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>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2015, at 3:10 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
 mailto:jdiakoge2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 Since I am using a public beta I don't think that I am breaking any
 rules. I've been using 9.0 for a while now and like it. It is very
 stable and does well with the battery. The only real complaint I have
 is that when using the male siri voice for my IOS voice, it pronounces
 some of the vowels strangely. The beta for 9.1 just came out today as
 well. I haven't used it enough to have an opinion though.
 
 On 9/10/15, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
> We won't know/can't say for sure until next Wednesday. At that time,
> coverage will hit the internet, including on www.applevis.com
> . I'd suggest
> checking that and other sites next Wednesday or Thursday to see what
> the
> status is, and if upgrading is recommended or not.
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 13:50, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

The problem for me when I click on the login page is, I get a page not found 
message.  So their telling me the NFL doesn't exist.  I'm done with this crap.  
The NFL has my hundred bucks and I have nothing.  Ok.  They got me this year 
but they won't stick it to me next year.  I was forced to listen to the 
Patriots game last night by listening to Westwood 1 on an old transister radio 
I've had sense the 70's.


Alan

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> Hi all,
> 
> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game 
> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through the 
> mac or PC.
> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look 
> like I am.
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Donald L. Roberts

I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they 
wish.  For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay and listen 
with no difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.


Don Roberts


On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. So 
until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
computer, I suppose.
Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through
the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look
like I am.

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RE: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

Take everything out of the App switcher, turn phone off and back on again, then 
try again.  


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Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:55 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

Hi All,

Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
a connecting message but nothing more.

I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
avail.

Any ideas what might be going on?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Kimber


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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Just a slight correction here.  It's not $99, it's $99.99. 

Alan

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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
> I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they wish.  
> For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay and listen with no 
> difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
> 
>> On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. So 
>> until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
>> computer, I suppose.
>> Hopefully it’ll be added soon.
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
>>> apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
>>> Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
>>> repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
>>> broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
>>> want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
>>> than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
>>> a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
>>> my home team without jumping through hoops.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
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 And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
 doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
 other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game
> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through
> the mac or PC.
> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look
> like I am.
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

That’s odd. I as able to log in just fine and listen to the steelers broadcast 
on my mac.
 Once they add the ability to listen to games on iOS, I’ll be happy, since I 
refuse to use any of those free apps that rely on actual stations, which 
because of contractual obligations don’t always stream the games.

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Alan Paganelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Just a slight correction here.  It's not $99, it's $99.99. 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they wish.  
>> For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay and listen with no 
>> difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. 
>>> So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
>>> computer, I suppose.
>>> Hopefully it’ll be added soon.
 On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 
 Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
 apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
 Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
 repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
 broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
 want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
 than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
 a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
 my home team without jumping through hoops.
 
 Wayne
 
> On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
> And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
> doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
> other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and 
>> game
>> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through
>> the mac or PC.
>> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t 
>> look
>> like I am.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

The Amizon basics bluetooth wireless keyboard is another good choice if your 
looking for an external keyboard.  I caught mine on special from Amazon for 
$20.  Even got free shipping too! I like free.  The keyboard requires 2 triple 
A batteries which is supplied.


Alan

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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Aman Singer  wrote:
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> Hello Brian and all,
> 
> The Keys to go is available at BestBuy. I would try it first, the
> typing on it always seemed to be very mushy for me, but that's
> strictly personal preference. The Logitech k810/k811 is available at
> http://www.canadacomputers.com
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> http://www.ncix.com
> I hope that's of use.
> Aman
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>> and where might I find me one of these in Canada?
>> I baught one of those ones everyone was talking about that could pair
>> with 6 devices and it was awesome for about two weeks and then z a q and
>> 1 all failed.  very odd because tab and caps lock work but left column
>> of letter keys failed which makes this thing useless and shipping to the
>> states for an rma with customs fun etc would cost more than the thing
>> was worth.  it cost me 50 bucks canadian.
>> 
>> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
>> follow me on twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
>> 
>>> On 09/10/2015 10:04 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-bluetooth-keyboard-excelent
>>> 
>>> Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's only a
>>> quarter-inch thick.
>>> 
>>> not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it
>>> at full speed.
>>> 
>>> At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good
 full-sized external bluetooth keyboard that would work  well with
 IPad? My current one has finally given up on me, and despite trying
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Robin Frost


Hi,
That's just it I've read or found nothing indicating that such support will 
be added to the iOS app. I would love for someone to prove me wrong on that 
one but thus far I can't find any indication that such support for audio in 
the iOS app is forth coming in this current configuration.

Robin

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

That’s odd. I as able to log in just fine and listen to the steelers 
broadcast on my mac.
Once they add the ability to listen to games on iOS, I’ll be happy, since I 
refuse to use any of those free apps that rely on actual stations, which 
because of contractual obligations don’t always stream the games.


On Sep 11, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Alan Paganelli 
 wrote:


Just a slight correction here.  It's not $99, it's $99.99.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 wrote:


I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they wish. 
For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay and listen with no 
difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.


Don Roberts



On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my 
opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to 
them on the computer, I suppose.

Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne


On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one 
that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And 
the

other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  
wrote:


Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and 
game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only 
through

the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t 
look

like I am.

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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Email account-supp...@nfl.com and ask that it be added. It makes no sense that 
they wouldn’t at some point, seeing as you could listen to games with the old 
audio pass service before it was merged into GamePass.

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> That's just it I've read or found nothing indicating that such support will 
> be added to the iOS app. I would love for someone to prove me wrong on that 
> one but thus far I can't find any indication that such support for audio in 
> the iOS app is forth coming in this current configuration.
> Robin
> 
> -Original Message- From: Daniel Miller
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.
> 
> That’s odd. I as able to log in just fine and listen to the steelers 
> broadcast on my mac.
> Once they add the ability to listen to games on iOS, I’ll be happy, since I 
> refuse to use any of those free apps that rely on actual stations, which 
> because of contractual obligations don’t always stream the games.
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Alan Paganelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just a slight correction here.  It's not $99, it's $99.99.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they wish. 
>>> For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay and listen with no 
>>> difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.
>>> 
>>> Don Roberts
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. 
 So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
 computer, I suppose.
 Hopefully it’ll be added soon.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
> apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
> Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
> repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
> broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
> want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
> than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
> a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
> my home team without jumping through hoops.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
>> And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
>> doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
>> other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and 
>>> game
>>> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only 
>>> through
>>> the mac or PC.
>>> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t 
>>> look
>>> like I am.
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Rich Ring

Looks as if I’ll have to find a radio so that I can at least listen to some 
games! The NFL sucks for doing this!
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Alan Paganelli  
> wrote:
> 
> The problem for me when I click on the login page is, I get a page not found 
> message.  So their telling me the NFL doesn't exist.  I'm done with this 
> crap.  The NFL has my hundred bucks and I have nothing.  Ok.  They got me 
> this year but they won't stick it to me next year.  I was forced to listen to 
> the Patriots game last night by listening to Westwood 1 on an old transister 
> radio I've had sense the 70's.
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game 
>> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through 
>> the mac or PC.
>> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look 
>> like I am.
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread jazzyjennifer

and i got to miss the Patriots  lastnight, cause i thought they would be 
on a station on tunein radio but they werent, and i didn't know of 
another app i could download so that i could listen to the game on a 
live stream,


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RE: VZW & Apple Financing & VZW UnLimitedData

2015-09-11 Thread Robin

I know A LotOfPeople, who have UpGraded ON VZW & were ForcedTo GiveUp 
TheirUnLimitedData ... But I haven't UpGraded


PrimarilyBecause I prefer the Freedom of NotHavingTo MonitorMyData

I'm wondering since Apple WillBe Financing PayMentPlans Will that 
Allow VZWUnLimitedDataHolders ToRetain TheirUnLimitedDataPlans


I HopeSo ... AT&T UnLimitedData IS GrandFathered IN AtLeast I think 
TheyAre ... UnLess TheyWere AbleTo SnatchThem LikeVZW when People UpGrade

At 12:54 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
When I upgraded to my iPhone 5 2 years ago I was forced to give up 
my unlimited data plan.  Verizon didn't give me an option to keep 
the old plan and put me on a 6 GB data plan.  Since then I have not 
exceeded the data limit.  I have been with Verizon for over 15 years.

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Behalf Of Robin

Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VZW & Apple Financing & VZW UnLimitedData

Will Apple's PayMent UpGradePlan allow people, who HaveVZW as 
TheirMobileCarrier ToUpGrade & ReTainTheir Valued UnLimitedData?

Curious since you are (I presume) Purchasing/Financing via a 3rdParty

I'm PrettySure VZW WillTryTo FindSomeWay ToSnatch its ReMaining 
UnLimitedDataPackages from the Few, who Have HeldOnTo 
TheirUnLimitedData Any Light SomeOne can Shed WouldBe GreatlyAppreciated!


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RE: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

What app is updating?  I had one that took hours, I think it was Microsoft 
Word.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

For how long? I've left the update process active for as long as 30
minutes and nothing changed.

K

On 9/11/15, martinnelso...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi; I have had the same problem. I found that if I remain signed in the apps
> will update. I hope this helps.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
>> my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
>> updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
>> a connecting message but nothing more.
>>
>> I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
>> switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
>> avail.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be going on?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
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Moderator Note -was- Re: Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there proved to be for iOS 8.0?

2015-09-11 Thread Cara Quinn

Hi All,

Can we please just close this thread now.

The people who have said that this sort of early disclosure violates an NDA are 
correct here. It does not matter that the beta is public. All beta participants 
are still under an Apple NDA. This list honors such agreements so posting this 
sort of info before it is legally allowed is inappropriate here.

Now, having said this, I absolutely understand people’s need to know important 
caveats to software updates so they can save themselves needless aggravation. 
So I most definitely encourage people to bring up any important issues once the 
software is made publicly available.

So for now, please honor any and all legal agreements between testers, 
developers and Apple while posting to this list.

Thank you so much and please do have a lovely weekend!

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On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:33 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:

Yo personally, I don't care what You think. There's no problem with helping up 
the owner of a group especially if she doesn't have time to look at in every 
messaging here. And especially when a friend that was a lot of what's not 
allowed. I think after this message I'll be copying your address and emailing 
Cara and let her know that you're just being a snob. I think you might want to 
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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 4:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm sure that Apple will go after me for telling a bunch of blind
> people that their software is less buggy than in the past especially
> when anyone of you can go out and get it today. If the moderator
> agrees with Joseph then that's fine but it's not his business what I
> have to say. I was trying to help someone else. This list is busy
> enough that we don't need others correcting what we do unless they are
> a moderator.
> 
> On 9/10/15, Shaf  wrote:
>> Such delusion.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/10/2015 10:20 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
>>> Your quite correct Joseph.  Beta testers should remain silent until the
>>> version hits the streets to the public.  Failure to do so can have very
>>> searious reprocussions.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 1:14 PM, joseph hudson >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hello, others can correct me if I'm wrong but the public beta is not
 to be discussed with the public if you're not using the beta. Others
 can correct me if I am wrong.
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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 3:10 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
> mailto:jdiakoge2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Since I am using a public beta I don't think that I am breaking any
> rules. I've been using 9.0 for a while now and like it. It is very
> stable and does well with the battery. The only real complaint I have
> is that when using the male siri voice for my IOS voice, it pronounces
> some of the vowels strangely. The beta for 9.1 just came out today as
> well. I haven't used it enough to have an opinion though.
> 
> On 9/10/15, Alex Hall  > wrote:
>> We won't know/can't say for sure until next Wednesday. At that time,
>> coverage will hit the internet, including on www.applevis.com
>> . I'd suggest
>> checking that and other sites next Wednesday or Thursday to see what
>> the
>> status is, and if upgrading is recommended or not.
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 13:50, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>>> mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there
>>> proved to be for iOS 8.0?
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RE: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

I disagree with resetting network settings.  It would be my very last thing to 
do, reset the phone after you clear the app switcher is what worked for me when 
this happened.  I am never in favor of resetting network settings unless 
nothing else works.  

Guess I just don't want to do that step and so far have never had to do it to 
get something working again.  



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

Hi Kimber,

Did you do any sort of preparation before doing the update, e.g. backup your 
phone, force quit all apps, perform a Reset all Network Settings? John's 
suggestion to go to Settings > General > Reset and do a Reset All Network 
Settings would also be my advice. Remember after your phone reboots you have to 
reconnect again to your WiFi and enter the password. Following the simple steps 
I outlined above can prevent most upgrade issues.
One last comment, if you have given your iPhone a custom name in Settings > 
General > About you will have to enter that name again after a Reset All 
Network Settings since that procedure will put the default name back.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS

For how long? I've left the update process active for as long as 30
minutes and nothing changed.

K

On 9/11/15, martinnelso...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi; I have had the same problem. I found that if I remain signed in the apps
> will update. I hope this helps.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any of
>> my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of available
>> updates, but when I tap the update button for an individual app I get
>> a connecting message but nothing more.
>>
>> I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
>> switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
>> avail.
>>
>> Any ideas what might be going on?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
>>
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Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there proved to be for iOS 8.0?

2015-09-11 Thread joseph hudson

Hello Cara, thank you I really do appreciate this. This really does clear up a 
lot.
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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Can we please just close this thread now.
> 
> The people who have said that this sort of early disclosure violates an NDA 
> are correct here. It does not matter that the beta is public. All beta 
> participants are still under an Apple NDA. This list honors such agreements 
> so posting this sort of info before it is legally allowed is inappropriate 
> here.
> 
> Now, having said this, I absolutely understand people’s need to know 
> important caveats to software updates so they can save themselves needless 
> aggravation. So I most definitely encourage people to bring up any important 
> issues once the software is made publicly available.
> 
> So for now, please honor any and all legal agreements between testers, 
> developers and Apple while posting to this list.
> 
> Thank you so much and please do have a lovely weekend!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:33 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Yo personally, I don't care what You think. There's no problem with helping 
> up the owner of a group especially if she doesn't have time to look at in 
> every messaging here. And especially when a friend that was a lot of what's 
> not allowed. I think after this message I'll be copying your address and 
> emailing Cara and let her know that you're just being a snob. I think you 
> might want to read your MBA before you think about posting or asking any 
> questions next time. People like you, make me want to leave the list.
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> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 4:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm sure that Apple will go after me for telling a bunch of blind
>> people that their software is less buggy than in the past especially
>> when anyone of you can go out and get it today. If the moderator
>> agrees with Joseph then that's fine but it's not his business what I
>> have to say. I was trying to help someone else. This list is busy
>> enough that we don't need others correcting what we do unless they are
>> a moderator.
>> 
>> On 9/10/15, Shaf  wrote:
>>> Such delusion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/10/2015 10:20 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 Your quite correct Joseph.  Beta testers should remain silent until the
 version hits the streets to the public.  Failure to do so can have very
 searious reprocussions.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Sep 10, 2015, at 1:14 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
> Hello, others can correct me if I'm wrong but the public beta is not
> to be discussed with the public if you're not using the beta. Others
> can correct me if I am wrong.
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7...@gmail.com 
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> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 3:10 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
>> mailto:jdiakoge2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Since I am using a public beta I don't think that I am breaking any
>> rules. I've been using 9.0 for a while now and like it. It is very
>> stable and does well with the battery. The only real complaint I have
>> is that when using the male siri voice for my IOS voice, it pronounces
>> some of the vowels strangely. The beta for 9.1 just came out today as
>> well. I haven't used it enough to have an opinion though.
>> 
>> On 9/10/15, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>>> We won't know/can't say for sure until next Wednesday. At that time,
>>> coverage will hit the internet, including on www.applevis.com
>>> . I'd suggest
>>> checking that and other sites next Wednesday or Thursday to see what
>>> the
>>> status is, and if upgrading is recommended or not.
 On Sep 10, 2015, at 13:50, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> wrote:
 
 Are there reasons to be cautious about updating to iOS 9.0, as there
 proved to be for iOS 8.0?
 
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RE: VZW & Apple Financing & VZW UnLimitedData

I had to give up my unlimited data in 2010.  Even when my husband was still 
using the same plan we never had a problem with what we paid for.  


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Robin
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VZW & Apple Financing & VZW UnLimitedData

I know A LotOfPeople, who have UpGraded ON VZW & were ForcedTo GiveUp 
TheirUnLimitedData ... But I haven't UpGraded

PrimarilyBecause I prefer the Freedom of NotHavingTo MonitorMyData

I'm wondering since Apple WillBe Financing PayMentPlans Will that 
Allow VZWUnLimitedDataHolders ToRetain TheirUnLimitedDataPlans

I HopeSo ... AT&T UnLimitedData IS GrandFathered IN AtLeast I think 
TheyAre ... UnLess TheyWere AbleTo SnatchThem LikeVZW when People UpGrade
At 12:54 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
>When I upgraded to my iPhone 5 2 years ago I was forced to give up 
>my unlimited data plan.  Verizon didn't give me an option to keep 
>the old plan and put me on a 6 GB data plan.  Since then I have not 
>exceeded the data limit.  I have been with Verizon for over 15 years.
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Robin
>Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 12:30 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: VZW & Apple Financing & VZW UnLimitedData
>
>Will Apple's PayMent UpGradePlan allow people, who HaveVZW as 
>TheirMobileCarrier ToUpGrade & ReTainTheir Valued UnLimitedData?
>Curious since you are (I presume) Purchasing/Financing via a 3rdParty
>
>I'm PrettySure VZW WillTryTo FindSomeWay ToSnatch its ReMaining 
>UnLimitedDataPackages from the Few, who Have HeldOnTo 
>TheirUnLimitedData Any Light SomeOne can Shed WouldBe GreatlyAppreciated!
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Re: Possibly good news about NFL Game Pass for those who want to spend $99

I don't think that's going to happen as they have a deal with Verison.


Alan

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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for letting me know.
> I wrote them back requesting that they make it available on the app.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, that’s the radio audio, that can only be listed to on the mac or PC, 
>> unfortunately.
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has Game Pass, please let the rest of the folks know if this 
>>> is adding the radio audio, or just the TV audio without the pictures?
>>>  
>>> From: customer.serv...@nflhelp.com [mailto:customer.serv...@nflhelp.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:03 AM
>>>  
>>> Thank you for reaching out to NFL Digital Care.
>>> We're writing to inform you that we launched the audio section of Game Pass 
>>> today, and we added links to listen to games in live and archive mode that 
>>> we expect screen readers to be able to read. Please let us know any 
>>> questions or concerns.
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

I guess it depends on which teams you want to listen to. I can usually find 
a feed that I can use, even though sometimes it may be the feed of the 
opposing team, but considering the level of talent of the average football 
radio broadcaster, it doesn't really matter to me.


Andy


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. So 
until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
computer, I suppose.

Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and 
game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only 
through

the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t 
look

like I am.

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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Brent Harding

The packers seem to be a hard one to find their feed of. I'd say they have 
pretty good talent on there, and being in Wisconsin, that's the one I would 
want to listen to. I guess Fox or CBS on TV will have to safice because it 
isn't worth $23 a month to subscribe to Sirius just for that. It seems like 
a lot of the rest of their sports are available on Tunein or cheaper 
individual subscriptions like At Bat.


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.


I guess it depends on which teams you want to listen to. I can usually find
a feed that I can use, even though sometimes it may be the feed of the
opposing team, but considering the level of talent of the average football
radio broadcaster, it doesn't really matter to me.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. So
until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the
computer, I suppose.
Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and 
game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only 
through

the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t 
look

like I am.

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Re: Possibly good news about NFL Game Pass for those who want to spend $99

Allan,

Audio Pass subscribers could listen to radio feeds in the app last year, 
regardless of the fact you had Verizon or not, so them not doing that at some 
point this year for GamePass subscribers would be an incredibly stupid move.

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Alan Paganelli  
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> 
> I don't think that's going to happen as they have a deal with Verison.
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Richard Turner  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Thanks for letting me know.
>> I wrote them back requesting that they make it available on the app.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, that’s the radio audio, that can only be listed to on the mac or PC, 
>>> unfortunately.
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Richard Turner >>> > wrote:
 
 For anyone who has Game Pass, please let the rest of the folks know if 
 this is adding the radio audio, or just the TV audio without the pictures?
  
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 We're writing to inform you that we launched the audio section of Game 
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

I believe that all should be done to make sure that NFL Game Pass is 
accessible to blind subscribers. After all, if they are going to take our 
money, they should be obligated to provide the same level of service as they 
do for other users. Actually, the NFL has engaged in structured negotiation 
with attorneys representing the blind, and many improvements to 
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in mind, and the accessibility improvements only come when people complain. 
As for a separate audio only package for the blind, this just isn't going to 
happen. They're going in the same direction as the NBA which offers game 
audio, but only if you buy the whole League Pass package. One thing that the 
NBA does do, which is kind of a compromise, is that they offer a lower 
priced package called Ala Carte, which allows you to choose from 1 to 5 
teams to follow, and you only have access to the broadcasts from those 
teams. I would think that this would work for most people, unless you do 
fantasy sports and insist on having access to all teams.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

It’s not Apple that needs to be notified. It’s the NFL that needs to add the 
ability to the app.


On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Paul Richard McGann  
wrote:


hello,,

have you notified apple headquarter about this?
since apple had upgraded ios 8.4.1, then that might be some issues. 
because the engineers of apps might have not realized of the effects of 
the way.


-Original Message- From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my opinion. 
So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to them on the 
computer, I suppose.

Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one 
that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts! And 
the

other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and 
game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only 
through

the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t 
look

like I am.

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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

I agree with you except that I don't think there's a problem with the 
accessibility of the NFL Mobile app, and I don't think that's what 
people are complaining about here. I don't think sighted people have 
access to the radio feed for NFL games either.


On 09/11/2015 06:45 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

I believe that all should be done to make sure that NFL Game Pass is
accessible to blind subscribers. After all, if they are going to take
our money, they should be obligated to provide the same level of service
as they do for other users. Actually, the NFL has engaged in structured
negotiation with attorneys representing the blind, and many improvements
to accessibility have been made. What often happens is that the content
delivery mechanisms such as web sites undergo a kind of overhaul in the
off season, and unfortunately, the developers do not seem to have
accessibility in mind, and the accessibility improvements only come when
people complain. As for a separate audio only package for the blind,
this just isn't going to happen. They're going in the same direction as
the NBA which offers game audio, but only if you buy the whole League
Pass package. One thing that the NBA does do, which is kind of a
compromise, is that they offer a lower priced package called Ala Carte,
which allows you to choose from 1 to 5 teams to follow, and you only
have access to the broadcasts from those teams. I would think that this
would work for most people, unless you do fantasy sports and insist on
having access to all teams.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

It’s not Apple that needs to be notified. It’s the NFL that needs to add
the ability to the app.


On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Paul Richard McGann
 wrote:

hello,,

have you notified apple headquarter about this?
since apple had upgraded ios 8.4.1, then that might be some issues.
because the engineers of apps might have not realized of the effects
of the way.

-Original Message- From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rich Ring
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my
opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to
them on the computer, I suppose.
Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one
that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts!
And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller 
wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app
and game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only
through
the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it
doesn’t look
like I am.

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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Chris is exactly right. The accessibility of the app is pretty good, better 
than it used to be, that’s for sure.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I agree with you except that I don't think there's a problem with the 
> accessibility of the NFL Mobile app, and I don't think that's what people are 
> complaining about here. I don't think sighted people have access to the radio 
> feed for NFL games either.
> 
> On 09/11/2015 06:45 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>> I believe that all should be done to make sure that NFL Game Pass is
>> accessible to blind subscribers. After all, if they are going to take
>> our money, they should be obligated to provide the same level of service
>> as they do for other users. Actually, the NFL has engaged in structured
>> negotiation with attorneys representing the blind, and many improvements
>> to accessibility have been made. What often happens is that the content
>> delivery mechanisms such as web sites undergo a kind of overhaul in the
>> off season, and unfortunately, the developers do not seem to have
>> accessibility in mind, and the accessibility improvements only come when
>> people complain. As for a separate audio only package for the blind,
>> this just isn't going to happen. They're going in the same direction as
>> the NBA which offers game audio, but only if you buy the whole League
>> Pass package. One thing that the NBA does do, which is kind of a
>> compromise, is that they offer a lower priced package called Ala Carte,
>> which allows you to choose from 1 to 5 teams to follow, and you only
>> have access to the broadcasts from those teams. I would think that this
>> would work for most people, unless you do fantasy sports and insist on
>> having access to all teams.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.
>> 
>> It’s not Apple that needs to be notified. It’s the NFL that needs to add
>> the ability to the app.
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Paul Richard McGann
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello,,
>>> 
>>> have you notified apple headquarter about this?
>>> since apple had upgraded ios 8.4.1, then that might be some issues.
>>> because the engineers of apps might have not realized of the effects
>>> of the way.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Daniel Miller
>>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:25 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: Rich Ring
>>> Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.
>>> 
>>> Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my
>>> opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to
>>> them on the computer, I suppose.
>>> Hopefully it’ll be added soon.
 On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 
 Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
 apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
 Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
 repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
 broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
 want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
 than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
 a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
 my home team without jumping through hoops.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
> And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one
> that
> doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts!
> And the
> other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app
>> and game
>> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only
>> through
>> the mac or PC.
>> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it
>> doesn’t look
>> like I am.
>> 
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

The fact that you think the NFL's Game Pass is worth little to nothing 
is your own opinion, and based on your message, I don't really think you 
respect someone who's signs up for NFL Game Pass. I got the same 
criticism as a Audio Pass subscriber in the past, but being able to 
effortlessly pull up any radio feed of any game I wanted was worth $20 
to me. I decided it wasn't worth $99 to me, so I passed on a Game Pass 
subscription this season, but I would never criticize someone else who 
did. I have no idea what their economic situation is or how much they 
value the convenience of NFL Game Pass. Unless I'm mistaken, Sirius 
isn't a free service. I don't have a Sirius subscription, but I would 
never say it's worth little to nothing just because I don't choose to 
pay for a subscription myself. IMHO, we should focus on accessibility 
discussions on this list and talk about accessible alternatives and not 
make judgment statements on those who choose a different service or 
product than the one we use.



On 09/11/2015 11:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they
wish.  For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay and listen
with no difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.

Don Roberts


On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my
opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to
them on the computer, I suppose.
Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one
that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts!
And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller 
wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app
and game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only
through
the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it
doesn’t look
like I am.

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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Do you have a TV set? You could have watch it on NBC.
Andy

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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and i got to miss the Patriots  lastnight, cause i thought they would be
on a station on tunein radio but they werent, and i didn't know of
another app i could download so that i could listen to the game on a
live stream,

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NFL mobile app update.

Hi all,

The NFL app just got updated to version 12.2.1, and the what’s new says the 
following:
“Listen live to every NFL game with NFL GamePass, a new subscription product 
from the NFL.” There’s some other info, but I figured that’d be the most 
pertinent, since we’ve had several threads about that service.
This should ease peoples minds now.

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Re: Main Menu

2015-09-11 Thread Gary Petraccaro

Ok, but what do I do with the URL?
Thanks.  New to iStore.
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  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: Main Menu


  Main Menu Url= http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php

  From: Gary Petraccaro 
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  Main Menu is available in the iTunes Store.  Can someone give a lead on how 
to access that so as to subscribe?
  Thanks.

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Re: NFL mobile app update.

2015-09-11 Thread Robin Frost


Hi,
I've learned to be naturally dubious when it comes to GamePass at this point 
so It won't ease my mind until I can successfully get an audio feed running 
through the thing. I'll sure give it a go this weekend in the name of 
science and public interest as the saying goes.

Good luck listening one and all (smiles).
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NFL mobile app update.

Hi all,

The NFL app just got updated to version 12.2.1, and the what’s new says the 
following:
“Listen live to every NFL game with NFL GamePass, a new subscription product 
from the NFL.” There’s some other info, but I figured that’d be the most 
pertinent, since we’ve had several threads about that service.

This should ease peoples minds now.

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Re: Main Menu

The URL that was posted takes you to the podcast link. You can either 
click on it and then click on the episodes you want to listen to, or you 
could paste that URL into your podcast app.



I've never used iTunes to subscribe to a podcast, but I think if you 
click on the following link on your iDevice then iTunes will come up and 
let you subscribe to the podcast: 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/main-menu/id359065719?mt=2


On 09/11/2015 09:04 PM, Gary Petraccaro wrote:

Ok, but what do I do with the URL?
Thanks.  New to iStore.
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Main Menu Url= http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php
*From:* Gary Petraccaro 
*Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2015 1:31 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Main Menu is available in the iTunes Store. Can someone give a lead
on how to access that so as to subscribe?
Thanks.
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Donald L. Roberts

Christopher, you certainly have the right to pontificate about anything 
you choose.  However, I too have the right to express the idea that the 
Sirius subscription is a better value.  You show me anything in my 
previous messages which was critical, expressed or implied.


Don Roberts


On 9/11/2015 4:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
The fact that you think the NFL's Game Pass is worth little to nothing 
is your own opinion, and based on your message, I don't really think 
you respect someone who's signs up for NFL Game Pass. I got the same 
criticism as a Audio Pass subscriber in the past, but being able to 
effortlessly pull up any radio feed of any game I wanted was worth $20 
to me. I decided it wasn't worth $99 to me, so I passed on a Game Pass 
subscription this season, but I would never criticize someone else who 
did. I have no idea what their economic situation is or how much they 
value the convenience of NFL Game Pass. Unless I'm mistaken, Sirius 
isn't a free service. I don't have a Sirius subscription, but I would 
never say it's worth little to nothing just because I don't choose to 
pay for a subscription myself. IMHO, we should focus on accessibility 
discussions on this list and talk about accessible alternatives and 
not make judgment statements on those who choose a different service 
or product than the one we use.



On 09/11/2015 11:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they
wish.  For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay and listen
with no difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.

Don Roberts


On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my
opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to
them on the computer, I suppose.
Hopefully it’ll be added soon.
On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  
wrote:


Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one
that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts!
And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller 
wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app
and game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only
through
the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it
doesn’t look
like I am.

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2015-09-11 Thread don bishop


i'm trying to listen to the sf giants feed on tunein radio premium but not 
finding it. I seem !be having trouble navigating the site for some reason. 
I go to spopts, then mlb, and look for sf giants. Sometimes I can find the 
giants but when I hit the live button right beneath it, I get some other 
broadcast.  
I was able to get the giants broadcast once, but haven't been able to find it 
now in several days. 
Anyone else having trouble hereing mlb games or am I missing something? 

Thanks,
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

Oh jesus, dramafest 2.0. Since the NFL released an update that includes live 
audio listening, I’d like to think this thread can be closed now.

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Donald L. Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
> Christopher, you certainly have the right to pontificate about anything you 
> choose.  However, I too have the right to express the idea that the Sirius 
> subscription is a better value.  You show me anything in my previous messages 
> which was critical, expressed or implied.
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
> 
> On 9/11/2015 4:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> The fact that you think the NFL's Game Pass is worth little to nothing is 
>> your own opinion, and based on your message, I don't really think you 
>> respect someone who's signs up for NFL Game Pass. I got the same criticism 
>> as a Audio Pass subscriber in the past, but being able to effortlessly pull 
>> up any radio feed of any game I wanted was worth $20 to me. I decided it 
>> wasn't worth $99 to me, so I passed on a Game Pass subscription this season, 
>> but I would never criticize someone else who did. I have no idea what their 
>> economic situation is or how much they value the convenience of NFL Game 
>> Pass. Unless I'm mistaken, Sirius isn't a free service. I don't have a 
>> Sirius subscription, but I would never say it's worth little to nothing just 
>> because I don't choose to pay for a subscription myself. IMHO, we should 
>> focus on accessibility discussions on this list and talk about accessible 
>> alternatives and not make judgment statements on those who choose a 
>> different service or product than the one we use.
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/11/2015 11:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>>> I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they
>>> wish.  For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay and listen
>>> with no difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.
>>> 
>>> Don Roberts
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my
 opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to
 them on the computer, I suppose.
 Hopefully it’ll be added soon.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
> apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
> Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
> repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
> broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
> want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
> than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
> a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
> my home team without jumping through hoops.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
>> And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one
>> that
>> doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts!
>> And the
>> other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app
>>> and game
>>> pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only
>>> through
>>> the mac or PC.
>>> I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it
>>> doesn’t look
>>> like I am.
>>> 
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

I hope not. I'd still like to hear from others if it worked or not and
if they're getting the radio feeds or the audio of the TV feeds.

I guess if you're not interested in this thread, you can use the delete
key. Using a threaded email client would also help you to avoid threads
you aren't interested in.

I'm also not sure individual users should be able to decide what threads
continue and don't continue on this list. I'd suggest we leave that up
to Cara.

On 09/11/2015 10:08 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Oh jesus, dramafest 2.0. Since the NFL released an update that includes live
audio listening, I’d like to think this thread can be closed now.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Donald L. Roberts
wrote:

Christopher, you certainly have the right to pontificate about anything you
choose. However, I too have the right to express the idea that the Sirius
subscription is a better value. You show me anything in my previous messages
which was critical, expressed or implied.

Don Roberts

On 9/11/2015 4:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
The fact that you think the NFL's Game Pass is worth little to nothing is your own opinion, and based on your message, I don't really think you respect someone who's signs up for NFL Game Pass. I got the same criticism as a Audio Pass subscriber in the past, but being able to effortlessly pull up any radio feed of any game I wanted was worth $20 to me. I decided it wasn't worth $99 to me, so I passed on a Game Pass subscription this season, but I would never criticize someone else who did. I have no idea what their economic situation is or how much they value the convenience of NFL Game Pass. Unless I'm mistaken, Sirius isn't a free service. I don't have a Sirius subscription, but I would never say it's worth little to nothing just because I don't choose to pay for a subscription myself. IMHO, we should focus on accessibility discussions on this list and talk about accessible alternatives and not make judgment statements on those who choose a different service or product than the

one we use.

On 09/11/2015 11:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing if they
wish. For my money, I will put up with a five minute delay and listen
with no difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.

Don Roberts

On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to games, in my
opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, I’ll listen to
them on the computer, I suppose.
Hopefully it’ll be added soon.

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass. I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than from
my home team without jumping through hoops.

Wayne

On 9/11/15, Rich Ring wrote:

And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the nation, and the only one
that
doesn’t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts!
And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!

On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller
wrote:

Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app
and game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only
through
the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it
doesn’t look
like I am.

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Re: tunein radio premium and mlb broadcasts

You're still listening to the Giants? I'm a Giants fan, but unfortunately 
they are continuing their odd and even pattern, and this is of course, an 
odd year.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: don bishop

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: tunein radio premium and mlb broadcasts


i'm trying to listen to the sf giants feed on tunein radio premium but not 
finding it. I seem !be having trouble navigating the site for some reason.
I go to spopts, then mlb, and look for sf giants. Sometimes I can find the 
giants but when I hit the live button right beneath it, I get some other 
broadcast.
I was able to get the giants broadcast once, but haven't been able to find 
it now in several days.

Anyone else having trouble hereing mlb games or am I missing something?

Thanks,
Don

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