Re: itunes for pc library after match

2015-11-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Larry,

iTunes doesn't change your files unless you tell it to. If a file is matched, 
it means the track exists in the iTunes library. To get the version from the 
library, delete the track from your library but not from iCloud, then choose 
the context key and choose Download from the context menu.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 22, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> Hello. I now have an itunes for pc library that I have gotten to tell me when 
> songs are “purchased” “matched” or “uploaded”.  When I play a “Matched” song, 
> am I playing the better kb256 copy or the original?  In other words, is 
> itunes mmerely telling me that the song is matched or is it really playing 
> the matched version.  I understood that the match did not replace your 
> original rips so was just wondering if I had to do something to get the 
> better matched copy to play on the pc.
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Re: Is there a way to find and delete invalid entries in a play list?

2015-11-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Larry,

You can probably create a smart playlist of tracks that are in that playlist 
but not in iCloud.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 22, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
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> The subject says it.  I have a large play list that must have some invalid 
> entries in it because it wouldn’t upload to itunes match.  I’d like to get 
> rid of them but don’t know how to do it other than to go one by one through 
> over 8 thousand entries.
>  
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Re: voice over suddenly going quiet

2015-11-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I experienced the first problem you described, VoiceOver not responding, 
when I would use my headset on a call. This seems to have been resolved 
at some point. Are you doing anything consistently before you lose 
VoiceOver, such as hang up on a call while using your headphones?


I haven't experienced the second problem you mentioned. You may need to 
make a backup, restore to original settings and then restore from your 
backup.


On 11/21/2015 06:29 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:

Hi all.  It seems that since I’ve upgraded to IOS 9.1 voice over freezes
rather frequently, perhaps two or 3 times a week.  The only thing that
helps is to hold down the home and sleep buttons for 10 or so seconds.
When voice over seems to crash I can usually still hear the sounds, but
no  voice over speech.  I’ve tried waiting a few minutes, but it doesn’t
come back on its own.

   Also, the other night I was using the BARD app listening to a
book.  The book stopped, and none of the other books would play.  Voice
over was working at that time.  Again, doing a hard re-set solved the
problem. Very strange. Is anyone else noticing either of these issues?
Any thoughts.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Boston

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Re: "Light Probe" App

2015-11-22 Thread Anthony Vece
Nice going.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 6s!

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 7:09 PM, SSEric  wrote:
> 
> Yes. Two USB ports and I think 6,000MA?
> 
> Interesting: I received a note from Anker asking if I was satisfied with my
> purchase. I assured them I was and suggested they consider some sort of
> audible test of the charge. I didn't ask that they do this, but it was just
> an idea. Someone has to lead...
> 
> E
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "Light Probe" App
> 
> Eric;
> 
> Do you have the Anker battery!
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 6s!
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 3:45 PM, SSEric  wrote:
>> 
>> My rechargeable battery has four little lights to indicate charge level.
>> 
>> Is there any app I could tell if those are lighted? I would have to move
> the
>> lens along the row of lights to count how many are on. These are fairly
>> close together, usually. (I actually cannot feel these lights, but on all
>> other batteries they have been about 1/4 inch apart.)
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Eric
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Is there a way to find and delete invalid entries in a play list?

2015-11-22 Thread Larry Lumpkin
The subject says it.  I have a large play list that must have some invalid
entries in it because it wouldn't upload to itunes match.  I'd like to get
rid of them but don't know how to do it other than to go one by one through
over 8 thousand entries.

 

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itunes for pc library after match

2015-11-22 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Hello. I now have an itunes for pc library that I have gotten to tell me
when songs are "purchased" "matched" or "uploaded".  When I play a "Matched"
song, am I playing the better kb256 copy or the original?  In other words,
is itunes mmerely telling me that the song is matched or is it really
playing the matched version.  I understood that the match did not replace
your original rips so was just wondering if I had to do something to get the
better matched copy to play on the pc.

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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Is it like the irig?

Did u try it?

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2015, at 1:10 AM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think the apogee quartet would be your best bet for this, as from it's 
> description, you could assign the concert audio to any of the outputs not 
> being used by voiceOver. would probably have got this myself, if it didn't 
> need AC power, but unfortunately, it looks like it does, so would have been 
> useless for me for field work.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ramy Moustafa" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 9:36 PM
> Subject: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?
> 
> 
> Hello all:\
> 
> i need to use my
> Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
> but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra sound
> card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: 5s seems to be stuck

2015-11-22 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Whenever something says adjustable, you don't double tap that.  It means 
that you use a single finger swipe up or down to adjust it.  When it says 
adjustable, it doesn't stay  that way for more than maybe a second or two, 
probably two, it then turns back off.  So, adjust it with that single finger 
swipe up or down within that maybe two second window of time before it stops 
being adjustable.  Also, you can change your home screens with a 
three-finger swipe right or left any time, without having to touch where it 
says, in your case, page three adjustable.   .


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Marie Lyons" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:57 PM
Subject: 5s seems to be stuck


My phone won’t let me use the picker item in my calendar.  Also it is stuck 
on the 3rd page of the home page of the home screen.I double tap on the 
picker or the page…adjustable.  Any ideas?


Marie Lyons

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RE: "Light Probe" App

2015-11-22 Thread SSEric
Yes. Two USB ports and I think 6,000MA?

Interesting: I received a note from Anker asking if I was satisfied with my
purchase. I assured them I was and suggested they consider some sort of
audible test of the charge. I didn't ask that they do this, but it was just
an idea. Someone has to lead...

E


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Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Light Probe" App

Eric;

Do you have the Anker battery!

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 6s!

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 3:45 PM, SSEric  wrote:
> 
> My rechargeable battery has four little lights to indicate charge level.
> 
> Is there any app I could tell if those are lighted? I would have to move
the
> lens along the row of lights to count how many are on. These are fairly
> close together, usually. (I actually cannot feel these lights, but on all
> other batteries they have been about 1/4 inch apart.)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Eric
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Re: Importance of IMessages nowadays?

2015-11-22 Thread Kelly Pierce
If I don't know someone well, I send a regular text message.  If the
person has an iPhone, Apple will figure that out and send a iMessage.
If they do not have an iPhone, it will be sent as a regular text
message.  Many people do not have iPhones or are not on Facebook or
other platforms.  Even if they are part of Facebook, they may not have
Facebook Messenger installed on their phone.

Kelly


On 11/22/15, Cristóbal  wrote:
> Use iMessages all the time. Don't have a need for FB messenger or those
> other messaging apps. Different strokes for different folks.
>
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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread goshawk on horseback
I think the apogee quartet would be your best bet for this, as from it's 
description, you could assign the concert audio to any of the outputs not 
being used by voiceOver. would probably have got this myself, if it didn't 
need AC power, but unfortunately, it looks like it does, so would have been 
useless for me for field work.

Simon


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Subject: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?


Hello all:\

i need to use my
Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra sound
card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?


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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Alex Stone
What phone do you have, and which version of iOs are you running? If you 
want, send me an Imessage to: alex.st...@gmail.com


On 22/11/2015 23:04, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Ok with pleasure, but on IOs now, it can not be found at all

On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:

Theoretically you can, you should now be able to put audio destination
in the rota, however in 9.2 it doesn't seem to work very well, if at all.
Ramy, we could have a chat about this on sskype tomorrow evening if you
wanted to, I may not be of much help though.

On 22/11/2015 22:34, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Voice over should do? how?
can i ask Voice over to go from another place than this headset?

On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:

Theoretically, voiceover should do that, but in the current version of
ios, it doesn't seem to work very well. For instance if I want to have
my iPad and my iPhone coming out from my Plantronix Bluetooth headset,
which supports more than one input, then it won't work, no matter what I
do.
Cheers
Alex

On 22/11/2015 22:27, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hello:

i can play the music via the headphone jack on iphone, but i need to
listen to Voice over  via My bluetooth headset. or vice versa, the
most importnat thing is to making voice over seprat from music when
playing.
it will allow me to choose songs, pause, or play what i need in an
easy way without problems.


On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:

If I wanted to do that, I'd go down the bluetooth route. DO you need
to
play it over a p.a?

On 22/11/2015 21:36, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hello all:\

i need to use my
Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra
sound
card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?



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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Ok with pleasure, but on IOs now, it can not be found at all

On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:
> Theoretically you can, you should now be able to put audio destination
> in the rota, however in 9.2 it doesn't seem to work very well, if at all.
> Ramy, we could have a chat about this on sskype tomorrow evening if you
> wanted to, I may not be of much help though.
>
> On 22/11/2015 22:34, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Voice over should do? how?
>> can i ask Voice over to go from another place than this headset?
>>
>> On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> Theoretically, voiceover should do that, but in the current version of
>>> ios, it doesn't seem to work very well. For instance if I want to have
>>> my iPad and my iPhone coming out from my Plantronix Bluetooth headset,
>>> which supports more than one input, then it won't work, no matter what I
>>> do.
>>> Cheers
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 22/11/2015 22:27, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Hello:

 i can play the music via the headphone jack on iphone, but i need to
 listen to Voice over  via My bluetooth headset. or vice versa, the
 most importnat thing is to making voice over seprat from music when
 playing.
 it will allow me to choose songs, pause, or play what i need in an
 easy way without problems.


 On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:
> If I wanted to do that, I'd go down the bluetooth route. DO you need
> to
> play it over a p.a?
>
> On 22/11/2015 21:36, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Hello all:\
>>
>> i need to use my
>> Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
>> but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra
>> sound
>> card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?
>>
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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Alex Stone
Theoretically you can, you should now be able to put audio destination 
in the rota, however in 9.2 it doesn't seem to work very well, if at all.
Ramy, we could have a chat about this on sskype tomorrow evening if you 
wanted to, I may not be of much help though.


On 22/11/2015 22:34, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Voice over should do? how?
can i ask Voice over to go from another place than this headset?

On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:

Theoretically, voiceover should do that, but in the current version of
ios, it doesn't seem to work very well. For instance if I want to have
my iPad and my iPhone coming out from my Plantronix Bluetooth headset,
which supports more than one input, then it won't work, no matter what I
do.
Cheers
Alex

On 22/11/2015 22:27, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hello:

i can play the music via the headphone jack on iphone, but i need to
listen to Voice over  via My bluetooth headset. or vice versa, the
most importnat thing is to making voice over seprat from music when
playing.
it will allow me to choose songs, pause, or play what i need in an
easy way without problems.


On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:

If I wanted to do that, I'd go down the bluetooth route. DO you need to
play it over a p.a?

On 22/11/2015 21:36, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hello all:\

i need to use my
Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra sound
card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?



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iPhone 6 plus case

2015-11-22 Thread Alex Stone
Looking for recommendations for a case for an iPhone 6 plus, 
possibly with a battery, but not necessarily.

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Re: "Light Probe" App

2015-11-22 Thread Anthony Vece
Eric;

Do you have the Anker battery!

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 6s!

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 3:45 PM, SSEric  wrote:
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> My rechargeable battery has four little lights to indicate charge level.
> 
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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Voice over should do? how?
can i ask Voice over to go from another place than this headset?

On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:
> Theoretically, voiceover should do that, but in the current version of
> ios, it doesn't seem to work very well. For instance if I want to have
> my iPad and my iPhone coming out from my Plantronix Bluetooth headset,
> which supports more than one input, then it won't work, no matter what I
> do.
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> On 22/11/2015 22:27, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> i can play the music via the headphone jack on iphone, but i need to
>> listen to Voice over  via My bluetooth headset. or vice versa, the
>> most importnat thing is to making voice over seprat from music when
>> playing.
>> it will allow me to choose songs, pause, or play what i need in an
>> easy way without problems.
>>
>>
>> On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> If I wanted to do that, I'd go down the bluetooth route. DO you need to
>>> play it over a p.a?
>>>
>>> On 22/11/2015 21:36, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Hello all:\

 i need to use my
 Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
 but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra sound
 card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?


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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Alex Stone
Theoretically, voiceover should do that, but in the current version of 
ios, it doesn't seem to work very well. For instance if I want to have 
my iPad and my iPhone coming out from my Plantronix Bluetooth headset, 
which supports more than one input, then it won't work, no matter what I do.

Cheers
Alex

On 22/11/2015 22:27, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hello:

i can play the music via the headphone jack on iphone, but i need to
listen to Voice over  via My bluetooth headset. or vice versa, the
most importnat thing is to making voice over seprat from music when
playing.
it will allow me to choose songs, pause, or play what i need in an
easy way without problems.


On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:

If I wanted to do that, I'd go down the bluetooth route. DO you need to
play it over a p.a?

On 22/11/2015 21:36, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hello all:\

i need to use my
Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra sound
card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?



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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello:

i can play the music via the headphone jack on iphone, but i need to
listen to Voice over  via My bluetooth headset. or vice versa, the
most importnat thing is to making voice over seprat from music when
playing.
it will allow me to choose songs, pause, or play what i need in an
easy way without problems.


On 11/23/15, Alex Stone  wrote:
> If I wanted to do that, I'd go down the bluetooth route. DO you need to
> play it over a p.a?
>
> On 22/11/2015 21:36, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Hello all:\
>>
>> i need to use my
>> Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
>> but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra sound
>> card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?
>>
>>
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Re: Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Alex Stone
If I wanted to do that, I'd go down the bluetooth route. DO you need to 
play it over a p.a?


On 22/11/2015 21:36, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hello all:\

i need to use my
Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra sound
card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?




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5s seems to be stuck

2015-11-22 Thread Marie Lyons
My phone won’t let me use the picker item in my calendar.  Also it is stuck on 
the 3rd page of the home page of the home screen.I double tap on the picker or 
the page…adjustable.  Any ideas?

Marie Lyons

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Assigning Voice Over to another output, can i?

2015-11-22 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello all:\

i need to use my
Iphone to play some audio files in a concert
but my problem is Voice over. can i buy any app or use any extra sound
card to play Voice over via different audio output than music?


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Re: "Light Probe" App

2015-11-22 Thread Eric Oyen
if you have an iPhone, there is an app for that. :) its called light detector. 
I use it to determine if the recharge stand for my radios is working, the 
control for the electric blanket and even if there is a light on in the room.

its been handy, although it doesn't see a lot of use.

-eric

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> My rechargeable battery has four little lights to indicate charge level.
> 
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> lens along the row of lights to count how many are on. These are fairly
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> other batteries they have been about 1/4 inch apart.)
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RE: Importance of IMessages nowadays?

2015-11-22 Thread Cristóbal
Use iMessages all the time. Don't have a need for FB messenger or those other 
messaging apps. Different strokes for different folks.

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Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 5:28 AM
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Subject: Importance of IMessages nowadays?

With Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger and other services, do you still use 
IMessages? I'm can't seem to select within Send Imessage via, my phone number! 
Any ideas, or should I not worry and just leave it with my EMail as it is?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone

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Re: "Light Probe" App

2015-11-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

You might be able to do it with Light Detector, but I'm not sure. That app 
doesn't cost much, though; I think it's $.99, so it might be worth a try. There 
are lights on my washing machine that are roughly half an inch apart, and if I 
hold my phone close, I can tell which one is on.

Best,
Anna



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> 
> My rechargeable battery has four little lights to indicate charge level.
> 
> Is there any app I could tell if those are lighted? I would have to move the
> lens along the row of lights to count how many are on. These are fairly
> close together, usually. (I actually cannot feel these lights, but on all
> other batteries they have been about 1/4 inch apart.)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Eric
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"Light Probe" App

2015-11-22 Thread SSEric
My rechargeable battery has four little lights to indicate charge level.

Is there any app I could tell if those are lighted? I would have to move the
lens along the row of lights to count how many are on. These are fairly
close together, usually. (I actually cannot feel these lights, but on all
other batteries they have been about 1/4 inch apart.)

Thanks!

Eric


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apple music questions

2015-11-22 Thread Larry Lumpkin
This is Larry Lumpkin.  I'd like to thank the gentleman from India who
graciously called me with answers to my questions.  I'm sorry 5 things were
going on in the kitchen during our call, smile.  Again, thank you very much.

 

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Re: itunes match working wonderfully except one play list

2015-11-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

My guess is that some tracks in the playlist are ineligible for iCloud. Maybe 
they're at too low a bitrate, or there's something really long, possibly a 
couple of hours long. If even one track is ineligibl for iCloud, the playlist 
won't be available to iCloud and iTunes Match.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Question on editing in a message

2015-11-22 Thread Anthony Vece
Hi Ed;

Just double-tap the body of the message And, you will be moved to the beginning 
of the message.
When you want to read the body of the message just find the subject of the 
message and, flick right.
Goth
Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 6s!

> On Nov 21, 2015, at 8:11 PM, Pinky  wrote:
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> Hi Group,
> 1.   If I am typing and I  have say three lines of text and I want to go 
> to the first line from the end of the third line what gesture do I use?
> 2.Now if I want it to read the whole message to me what gestor do I 
> use?
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S

2015-11-22 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
Yes it does come with a belt clip holster portion of the case which one can 
choose to or not to use and yes the case does have a hard shell along with 
the built in screen protector.  It only differs from the otterbox defender 
in that it is composed of two layers not 3.
If anyone has any further questions perhaps email me privately so we don't 
take the list too afar a field and disrupt the intended flow of things.

Again I've no affiliation I've just been a happy user. I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S

So Robvin,

Does this have a belt clip, please, and, having never seen the Otter
Box, is this case you now have still one with a hard shell?

Thanks for any further comments and forgive me if I haven't followed
this thread thoroughly enough.

Carol P

On 22/11/2015 03:49, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi Ari,
Good question.  I don't often use the holster belt clip thingie however in 
the interest of gaining knowledge I just looked to answer your question 
and I can report with great joy and gladness that it blocks neither of 
those ports at all (smile). As for how easy or difficult it would be to 
insert one handed that I didn't test and I suspect that'd be subjective 
anyway. But I can say with certainty that both charging and headphone 
ports are accessible when in holster thing.  I hope that helps.

Robin


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Subject: Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S

Robin, I've heard of this brand of case before. Do you have one that has 
the belt clip attachment? And if so, does that block access to the 
charging port and headphone jack when it's in the clip? The reason I 
really liked my old Defender is that it didn't block access to either of 
those ports, and the Griffin Survivor that I have now does. Another reason 
I like the OtterBox Defender over the Griffin Survivor is that the phone 
is a lot easier to put back in the clip one-handed using the OtterBox 
Defender.



Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,
when the cases for the 6's and 6Plus's came out there was a great deal of 
trouble with the protector not lying as flat against the front face of 
the phone as it had in prior models. Many users thought this was due to 
the thin film that was now covering the home button through which the 
fingerprint censor would still work.
I haven't consulted more recent reviews of the cases for the 6s's and 
6sPlus's to see if the problem persists as when it happened with the 
prior models I went with a different case. It is the unicorn beetle line 
from SupCase. It's similar to the defender cases at a slightly lower 
price point. I wouldn't say it's exactly in the same class as the 
defender but if you're not involved in construction work or dropping your 
device from great heights you might make out just fine with this model as 
I have. All cases I've purchased for myself and others of this range have 
lain flat against the face of the phone in terms of its built in screen 
protector portion. the home button fingerprint censor portion of this 
case is open as it had been in earlier models of the otterbox defender 
cases.
Examples of this case can be found here should you like to read more. 
I've no affiliation with them I've just been a happy customer.  I hope 
that helps.

6s
http://www.amazon.com/iPhone-SUPCASE-Unicorn-Beetle-Series/dp/B00MOOF2EO
6sPlus
http://www.amazon.com/iPhone-SUPCASE-Unicorn-Beetle-Protective/dp/B00MOOFFY6
Robin


-Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S

Do the Otterbox defender cases really have air pockets, like a lot of 
people seem to be saying, or is that just one person or two people that 
had a problem, and now it's getting hyped way out of hand? The reason I 
want the screen protector is because I often touch my phone with dirty 
hands.



Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Fazil,

I have an Otterbox Defender case as well (which I never use any more), 
but the first thing I did was to punch out the screen protector. The 
Otterbox Defender has such a big edge that even if the phone falls 
touchscreen down, it is extremely unlikely that the screen ever touches 
the ground and I just don't like screen protectors. The screen protector 
is glued in and if you start at one corner, it is not too hard to get it 
off. It is of course anybody's choice, I am not that worried about my 
screen since it is made from extremely hard glass. I have had the iPhone 
4, 4S, 5S and now the 6S and I have dropped any one of them many times 
without screen protector and never had a problem.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Importance of IMessages nowadays?

2015-11-22 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Yes that's where I'm trying to select my cell number, but it doesn't want to 
select! I'm wamting to set IMessages to send either via my EMail or cell 
number! Ideas?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 22/11/2015, a las 8:20 a.m., Jonathan Mosen  escribió:
> 
> You can set your iMessage to come from your email address if you don't wish 
> to give out your cell number. This is done in Settings, messages.
> Jonathan Mosen
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> 
>> On 23/11/2015, at 2:47 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I use iMessage. I much rather prefer it over things like FB. However, for 
>> security reasons, I'd leave it with the email. If you iMessage someone 
>> unintentionally, you could give them your number. With email, well, they 
>> will only know your email. And I'd imagine family members already know it, 
>> anyway? 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Gerardo Corripio  
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:28 pm
>> Subject: Importance of IMessages nowadays?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger and other services, do you still use 
>>> IMessages? I'm can't seem to select within Send Imessage via, my phone 
>>> number! Any ideas, or should I not worry and just leave it with my EMail as 
>>> it is?
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
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Re: Importance of IMessages nowadays?

2015-11-22 Thread Jonathan Mosen
You can set your iMessage to come from your email address if you don't wish to 
give out your cell number. This is done in Settings, messages.
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> On 23/11/2015, at 2:47 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I use iMessage. I much rather prefer it over things like FB. However, for 
> security reasons, I'd leave it with the email. If you iMessage someone 
> unintentionally, you could give them your number. With email, well, they will 
> only know your email. And I'd imagine family members already know it, anyway? 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Gerardo Corripio  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:28 pm
> Subject: Importance of IMessages nowadays?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> With Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger and other services, do you still use 
>> IMessages? I'm can't seem to select within Send Imessage via, my phone 
>> number! Any ideas, or should I not worry and just leave it with my EMail as 
>> it is?
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
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Re: Importance of IMessages nowadays?

2015-11-22 Thread Rajmund
Hello,
I use iMessage. I much rather prefer it over things like FB. However, for 
security reasons, I'd leave it with the email. If you iMessage someone 
unintentionally, you could give them your number. With email, well, they will 
only know your email. And I'd imagine family members already know it, anyway? 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:28 pm
Subject: Importance of IMessages nowadays?

>
>
> With Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger and other services, do you still use 
> IMessages? I'm can't seem to select within Send Imessage via, my phone 
> number! Any ideas, or should I not worry and just leave it with my EMail as 
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> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
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Importance of IMessages nowadays?

2015-11-22 Thread Gerardo Corripio
With Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger and other services, do you still use 
IMessages? I'm can't seem to select within Send Imessage via, my phone number! 
Any ideas, or should I not worry and just leave it with my EMail as it is?

Gera
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Re: Question on editing in a message

2015-11-22 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
First, a double-tap would take you to an end,  might have to do it more than 
once if it takes you to the wrong end;  but it does 
tell you.  So, the double-tap  will take you to the start of the message, which 
is the start of the first line I hope.

Then, I can flick left to previous screen item,  flick right back to the text 
field, and it reads it all.  Or, I'd crank round the 
rotor to Lines,  then flick down and read in bigger bites, but still retain 
some navigational control if I need to check a detail as 
I pass.

HtH,  BobH.

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:11 AM
Subject: Question on editing in a message


Hi Group,

1.   If I am typing and I  have say three lines of text and I want to go
to the first line from the end of the third line what gesture do I use?

2.Now if I want it to read the whole message to me what gestor do I
use?

Thanks in advance.

Ed

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Re: Anyone else having problems downloading Blindfold Vee Ball?

2015-11-22 Thread MamaPeach

I too had this same issue, until late last night, it finally downloaded.

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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:26 PM
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Subject: Anyone else having problems downloading Blindfold Vee Ball?

I've tried multiple times to download Blindfold Vee Ball with no luck. I 
closed the app store, along with all other apps, and still no luck. I have 
not yet tried restarting my phone or resetting network settings, but updates 
from the App Store have downloaded perfectly all right, so I don't think 
it's my phone being weird. Is anyone else having problems downloading this 
app?



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Re: Configuring notifications via sounds?

2015-11-22 Thread rajmund
Hello,
Settings, sounds, and change the sounds for whatever you can. I know iMessage, 
email, facebook, twitter, and a few others can have it.

Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors. 

> On 22 Nov 2015, at 4:09 a.m., Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can one set up bnotificatiokns on the IPhone, so when a Whatsapp, Twitter or 
> other alerts come in, a distinct sound plays for a Whatsapp, another for the 
> Twitter alert, another sound for Facebook etc? If it makes a difference, I'm 
> on  4S with iOS latest 9.1. Thanks for info.
> 
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Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S

2015-11-22 Thread englishrider91
I do believe that Supcase has just gained a future customer. :)


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 21, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> As I said no pockets of air between screen protector and phone front thus far 
> with me. One case that I did run into that had a tiny bit of it wasn't 
> significant enough to impact operation of the device but was easily fixed by 
> a friend through an even exchange for a better fit.
> You'll be glad to know that the holster cradles phone more like the defender 
> one nothing to match up in order for it to work.
> I hope that helps.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 12:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S
> 
> Woohoo! That's awesome news! Do you have pockets of air between the screen 
> protector on this case and the screen?
> 
> The reason that I find the Griffin Survivor hard to holster with one hand is 
> that the clip brackets the phone on either side, near the speaker and 
> charging port. There's little grooves on the case where the clip brackets The 
> phone. You have to match up The Divet in the case to the clip on the earpiece 
> side of the phone, and once you match them up, keep pressure on it while you 
> press the case into the other side of the clip. I think I making it sound 
> more complicated than it actually is. On the other hand, the OtterBox 
> defender sort of cradles the landscape side of the phone that's facing the 
> ground, and you just push on the landscape side of the phone that's facing up 
> towards your waist at the top of the phone, and the phone just clicks into 
> place.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ari,
>> Good question.  I don't often use the holster belt clip thingie however in 
>> the interest of gaining knowledge I just looked to answer your question and 
>> I can report with great joy and gladness that it blocks neither of those 
>> ports at all (smile). As for how easy or difficult it would be to insert one 
>> handed that I didn't test and I suspect that'd be subjective anyway. But I 
>> can say with certainty that both charging and headphone ports are accessible 
>> when in holster thing.  I hope that helps.
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S
>> 
>> Robin, I've heard of this brand of case before. Do you have one that has the 
>> belt clip attachment? And if so, does that block access to the charging port 
>> and headphone jack when it's in the clip? The reason I really liked my old 
>> Defender is that it didn't block access to either of those ports, and the 
>> Griffin Survivor that I have now does. Another reason I like the OtterBox 
>> Defender over the Griffin Survivor is that the phone is a lot easier to put 
>> back in the clip one-handed using the OtterBox Defender.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> when the cases for the 6's and 6Plus's came out there was a great deal of 
>>> trouble with the protector not lying as flat against the front face of the 
>>> phone as it had in prior models. Many users thought this was due to the 
>>> thin film that was now covering the home button through which the 
>>> fingerprint censor would still work.
>>> I haven't consulted more recent reviews of the cases for the 6s's and 
>>> 6sPlus's to see if the problem persists as when it happened with the prior 
>>> models I went with a different case. It is the unicorn beetle line from 
>>> SupCase. It's similar to the defender cases at a slightly lower price 
>>> point. I wouldn't say it's exactly in the same class as the defender but if 
>>> you're not involved in construction work or dropping your device from great 
>>> heights you might make out just fine with this model as I have. All cases 
>>> I've purchased for myself and others of this range have lain flat against 
>>> the face of the phone in terms of its built in screen protector portion. 
>>> the home button fingerprint censor portion of this case is open as it had 
>>> been in earlier models of the otterbox defender cases.
>>> Examples of this case can be found here should you like to read more. I've 
>>> no affiliation with them I've just been a happy customer.  I hope that 
>>> helps.
>>> 6s
>>> http://www.amazon.com/iPhone-SUPCASE-Unicorn-Beetle-Series/dp/B00MOOF2EO
>>> 6sPlus
>>> http://www.amazon.com/iPhone-SUPCASE-Unicorn-Beetle-Protective/dp/B00MOOFFY6
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S
>>> 
>>> Do the Otterbox defender cases really have air pockets, like a lot of 
>>> people seem to be saying, or is that just one per

Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S

2015-11-22 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

So Robvin,

Does this have a belt clip, please, and, having never seen the Otter 
Box, is this case you now have still one with a hard shell?


Thanks for any further comments and forgive me if I haven't followed 
this thread thoroughly enough.


Carol P

On 22/11/2015 03:49, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi Ari,
Good question.  I don't often use the holster belt clip thingie 
however in the interest of gaining knowledge I just looked to answer 
your question and I can report with great joy and gladness that it 
blocks neither of those ports at all (smile). As for how easy or 
difficult it would be to insert one handed that I didn't test and I 
suspect that'd be subjective anyway. But I can say with certainty that 
both charging and headphone ports are accessible when in holster 
thing.  I hope that helps.

Robin


-Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S

Robin, I've heard of this brand of case before. Do you have one that 
has the belt clip attachment? And if so, does that block access to the 
charging port and headphone jack when it's in the clip? The reason I 
really liked my old Defender is that it didn't block access to either 
of those ports, and the Griffin Survivor that I have now does. Another 
reason I like the OtterBox Defender over the Griffin Survivor is that 
the phone is a lot easier to put back in the clip one-handed using the 
OtterBox Defender.



Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,
when the cases for the 6's and 6Plus's came out there was a great 
deal of trouble with the protector not lying as flat against the 
front face of the phone as it had in prior models. Many users thought 
this was due to the thin film that was now covering the home button 
through which the fingerprint censor would still work.
I haven't consulted more recent reviews of the cases for the 6s's and 
6sPlus's to see if the problem persists as when it happened with the 
prior models I went with a different case. It is the unicorn beetle 
line from SupCase. It's similar to the defender cases at a slightly 
lower price point. I wouldn't say it's exactly in the same class as 
the defender but if you're not involved in construction work or 
dropping your device from great heights you might make out just fine 
with this model as I have. All cases I've purchased for myself and 
others of this range have lain flat against the face of the phone in 
terms of its built in screen protector portion. the home button 
fingerprint censor portion of this case is open as it had been in 
earlier models of the otterbox defender cases.
Examples of this case can be found here should you like to read more. 
I've no affiliation with them I've just been a happy customer.  I 
hope that helps.

6s
http://www.amazon.com/iPhone-SUPCASE-Unicorn-Beetle-Series/dp/B00MOOF2EO
6sPlus
http://www.amazon.com/iPhone-SUPCASE-Unicorn-Beetle-Protective/dp/B00MOOFFY6 


Robin


-Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best Case for iPhone 6S

Do the Otterbox defender cases really have air pockets, like a lot of 
people seem to be saying, or is that just one person or two people 
that had a problem, and now it's getting hyped way out of hand? The 
reason I want the screen protector is because I often touch my phone 
with dirty hands.



Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:


Hi Fazil,

I have an Otterbox Defender case as well (which I never use any 
more), but the first thing I did was to punch out the screen 
protector. The Otterbox Defender has such a big edge that even if 
the phone falls touchscreen down, it is extremely unlikely that the 
screen ever touches the ground and I just don't like screen 
protectors. The screen protector is glued in and if you start at one 
corner, it is not too hard to get it off. It is of course anybody's 
choice, I am not that worried about my screen since it is made from 
extremely hard glass. I have had the iPhone 4, 4S, 5S and now the 6S 
and I have dropped any one of them many times without screen 
protector and never had a problem.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Fazil

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best Case for iPhone 6S

I had a little problem with Otterbox Commuter when I had it for my 
IPhone6Plus.
Power button was getting pushed frequently with just the accidental 
touch of my finger.
So, I replaced it with Otterbox Defender. Defender does not have 
that problem, however, its screen protector does not snugly flush 
with the screen and leaves some air-pockets here and there, thus you 
have to tap very hard at times.

HTH.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphon

Re: Status Report

2015-11-22 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

So what does Buffer offer?

Carol P

On 21/11/2015 22:40, Alex Stone wrote:
In general I agree with you, but there are other apps that give you 
different features. For instance, I use Buffer.

Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 22:38, Colin McDonald wrote:

I find the native apps for fb and twitter work great on the IPhone.
I also have fb notifications turned on in the facebook app on the 
phone, so that when ever anyone who is in my close friends list 
updates, I get a notification.  As well, I have sms notifications 
turned on with twitter, so if I want an SMS sent when someone I am 
following updates, I just have to turn on an SMS notification for 
that particular person...this way I can control who I get 
notifications from...it's pretty easy to turn notifications either 
from facebook or twitter via sms, on and off for who ever you want.
You put those friends you want to see notifications from on facebook 
into your close friends list and you will only see their status 
updates when notifications are turned on in the app
You can send a txt to twitter with F and the persons twitter handle 
and it'll start sending notifications to yu...simply send off and 
that persons twitter handle to the twitter number and you will stop 
receiving SMS's for that person...you can also update your own 
facebook, and twitter via sms by sending your update to the 
appropriate sms number for fb and twitter.
Using sms's makes it easy, simple, controlable and you don't have to 
try and wade through pages and pages of garbage on FB or twitter.


Regards
Colin
-Original Message- From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Status Report

Yeah, so would I!

As it is, I pick it up about every two or three months, have a play,
reinstall, now get nowhere and put it down again ...

Any other apps people would recommend giving more than one option to
Social Networks, that's straightforward but useful?

Carol P


Carol P

On 21/11/2015 21:47, Stephanie wrote:
I think the app is stuffed. I cant use it any more due to the fact 
that facebook doesn't work any more. If it did, I would still use it.

Steph

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
To: VI Phone Users  
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:31 am
Subject: Status Report



If anyone still uses Status Report, could you please tell me 
whether you have got Facebook to work with it I love this simple 
app, but it seems that Facebook just will not work any longer! Can 
anyone confirm or deny this ?




Carol P
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Re: Status Report

2015-11-22 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Yes, thanks, I'm aware of all of this and spend a lot of time just in 
"Facebook". However, there are times when I just don't have much reading 
time and would like to browse some of the latest from both, as quickly 
as I can. This is where I really liked that particular app.


Thanks, though, for mentioning the various ways that I can see both ... 
It's appreciated!


Carol P


Carol P

On 21/11/2015 22:38, Colin McDonald wrote:

I find the native apps for fb and twitter work great on the IPhone.
I also have fb notifications turned on in the facebook app on the 
phone, so that when ever anyone who is in my close friends list 
updates, I get a notification.  As well, I have sms notifications 
turned on with twitter, so if I want an SMS sent when someone I am 
following updates, I just have to turn on an SMS notification for that 
particular person...this way I can control who I get notifications 
from...it's pretty easy to turn notifications either from facebook or 
twitter via sms, on and off for who ever you want.
You put those friends you want to see notifications from on facebook 
into your close friends list and you will only see their status 
updates when notifications are turned on in the app
You can send a txt to twitter with F and the persons twitter handle 
and it'll start sending notifications to yu...simply send off and that 
persons twitter handle to the twitter number and you will stop 
receiving SMS's for that person...you can also update your own 
facebook, and twitter via sms by sending your update to the 
appropriate sms number for fb and twitter.
Using sms's makes it easy, simple, controlable and you don't have to 
try and wade through pages and pages of garbage on FB or twitter.


Regards
Colin
-Original Message- From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Status Report

Yeah, so would I!

As it is, I pick it up about every two or three months, have a play,
reinstall, now get nowhere and put it down again ...

Any other apps people would recommend giving more than one option to
Social Networks, that's straightforward but useful?

Carol P


Carol P

On 21/11/2015 21:47, Stephanie wrote:
I think the app is stuffed. I cant use it any more due to the fact 
that facebook doesn't work any more. If it did, I would still use it.

Steph

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
To: VI Phone Users  
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:31 am
Subject: Status Report



If anyone still uses Status Report, could you please tell me whether 
you have got Facebook to work with it I love this simple app, but it 
seems that Facebook just will not work any longer! Can anyone 
confirm or deny this ?




Carol P
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