Re: Phone constantly requiring my Apple ID and password please help

[Godwin Adoyi]

Im facing same problem here too.

Regards,
Godwin Adoyi
Cell: +233244311697
Skype: Gadoyi 
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On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 7:46 PM -0800,  wrote:










Hi, ever since I updated all my apps using iTunes, my phone randomly keeps 
popping up and telling me to enter my Apple password it already has mighty 
filled in. How can I turn this off it is driving me crazy? Any help would be 
appreciated. Please and thank you.
Dacia

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Re: Fleksy Keyboard

[Krister Ekstrom]

I always use fleksy as a third party keyboard and have no problems whatsoever. 
Krister 


Skickat från min iPhone

> 26 dec. 2015 kl. 18:43 skrev Woody Anna Dresner :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I got fleksy when it first came out and was very impressed, but I haven't 
> used it for a long time because it wasn't very accessible. I tried it a 
> couple of weeks ago, and it seemed to work pretty well from within the Fleksy 
> app. When I tried using it as a third-party keyboard, though, it didn't work 
> well at all. It offered almost no suggestions, and what suggestions there 
> were didn't bear much resemblance to what I had tried to type. Are those of 
> you who are using it successfully using it as a third-party keyboard, or just 
> typing within the Fleksy app and pasting your content into the apps you want 
> to use?
> 
> Thanks,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 4:56 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I'll try some more settings but there are two things consider me a lot.
>> 1. I'll try to explain this with English examples. If I want to write 'dead' 
>> and I accidentally hit R instead of D while flicking up and down to change 
>> the suggestion Fleksy only gives me the words starting with R and it never 
>> offers 'dead' as suggestion. When I use Fleksy before this wasn't the case. 
>> This is happening in Croatian and I don't know how it acts when typing 
>> English.
>> 2. Croatian language has some diacritic characters and on PC keyboardthey 
>> are positioned after letters P and L in the second and third keyboard row.
>> On standard IOS virtual keyboard they are hidden in alternative characters 
>> and I type for three years in that way. In Fleksy developers inserted those 
>> characters as in a PC style keyboard and now P and L are not the last 
>> characters in their rows and it confuses me a lot to hit exact letters 
>> because the whole layout is a bit distorted. I need to check out can I 
>> disable it somewhere in the settings but I doubt it.
>> 
>> S poštovanjem
>> Gordan Radić
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 26.12.2015. u 11:17, Krister Ekstrom je napisao/la:
>>> Hi, I'm using fleksy all the time and loving it. In fact this mail is typed 
>>> with fleksy. It works beautifully in both English and Swedish. For the 
>>> first time I'm actually able to type and use mail on iOS in a meaningful 
>>> way. 
>>> Just my opinion. 
>>> Krister 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Skickat från min iPhone
>>> 
>>> 26 dec. 2015 kl. 02:45 skrev Gordan Radić :
>>> 
 Hi!
 Few years ago Fleksy was commonly used amongst blind iOS users. I tried it 
 back then but since it didn't support my native language I gave it up. 
 Today I installed the new Fleksy keyboard which now supports more than 40 
 languages including Croatian but it seems to me it doesn't work as weel as 
 it worked earlier. I didn't try to type in English so I can't say is this 
 for fact or the Croatian dictionary is bad. I noticed it only comes up 
 with suggestions with the same first letter and it doesn't suggest other 
 words based on letters positions as id did before in English.
 What are your experiences with the new fleksy?
 
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Re: Finding a place or street

[curmudgeon580]

good morning
another choice that is free,
is viaopta mav
this app only does streets and addresses,  for walking
but if in a vehicle it does announce cross streets and the street you are 
on,

good hunting
curmudgeon



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Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Finding a place or street


It depends on what kind of detail you want.
Blind Square will give you the streets you are crossing and direction you 
are heading without having to know the route the driver is using.

I would set Blind Square to just streets.
If you know what gps the driver is using and what route you could try to 
match that with Google Maps or Mapquest and still have Blind Square 
announcing streets.
You could use Apple Maps, though I've not gotten it set up to speak street 
names, but I know others have. I probably could if I took the time to mess 
with it.
Or, you could use Seeing Eye GPS, which speaks the streets as you come to 
them and you can also set up turn by turn directions, but it is the more 
expensive option.
But, I would never say one way is the best as that depends on personal 
preference.

HTH,
Richard


On Dec 26, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


When travelling to a new city and riding in a cab from the airport, what's 
the best way to listen to where one is going as the drive is taking place? 
Thanks, Keith


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Subject: Re: Finding a place or street

I like Blind Square. open the tools menu and pick nearby intersections.
HTH,
Richard


On Dec 26, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Brian Albriton  
wrote:


What's is the best way other than siri to find a place or street. As a
for instance, you know there is a street in your vacinity but not sure
exactly whre and maybe you don't even have a clear idea of how to
spell it. So, can you get at least a listing of nearby streets.
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Re: Blindfold cryptogram.

[leliastr...@gmail.com]

Hi Donna, would you also be able to confirm that sometimes the game gets quirky 
when flipping between the letters and the puzzle? Thanks!

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 26, 2015, at 8:31 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I can confirm your findings. Great game though. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 7:26 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
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>> Hi all, I am wondering if anyone who has played this game has had any 
>> problems when they are in the game going back to the main menu with a three 
>> finger swipe? The developer and I are talking, I am asking you guys so that 
>> if you don't have the problem then  I know it's me.
>> 
>> Lelia 
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Re: A correct way to redeem an ITunes Gift card?

[christopher hallsworth]

Yes I have.
> On 26 Dec 2015, at 21:32, Connie Mohney  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone redeemed an iTunes gift card sent via e-mail? Thank you.
> Connie
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 11:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A correct way to redeem an ITunes Gift card?
>  
> I did this for the first time yesterday. What you do is actually peel off the 
> sticker that will feel raised. Just get it with the edge of your fingernail 
> and peel carefully. The code is underneath. Then using the camera on the 
> phone when you're in that screen, hold the code part near the camera, but 
> don't swipe it back and forth. On the screen, it shows what the camera sees. 
> If it's lined up properly, the screen will change, and of course Voiceover 
> will say something. I think the heading on the screen changed. Anyhow, it was 
> apparent that it had found the code. I hope that helps.
> Matthew
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Re: Phone constantly requiring my Apple ID and password please help

[Kathy Brandt]

This was happening to me before I updated to 9.2. Have you tried completely 
signing out of the app and iTunes stores, I message, i-cloud and face time, 
then signing back in?

> On Dec 26, 2015, at 10:46 PM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, ever since I updated all my apps using iTunes, my phone randomly keeps 
> popping up and telling me to enter my Apple password it already has mighty 
> filled in. How can I turn this off it is driving me crazy? Any help would be 
> appreciated. Please and thank you.
> Dacia
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Re: Keys to go blue tooth keyboard

[Devin Prater]

If you have quick nav off, press control+option+space, or 
control+windows+space, if you come from a Windows world. If quick nav is on, 
press the up and down arrows together. to turn quick nav on or off, press the 
right arrow and the left arrow together. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Kathy and Wilda  wrote:
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> I received the above keyboard for Christmas. I need assistance on how it 
> works. I can’t seem to open an app by pressing any key twice. Those who use 
> this can you give me some assist? Thanks in advance.
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IOS

[rubyalphonse]

Hello all, I wonder if anyone knows when IOS 10 will be out? Perhaps then
the voice over will be corrected I guess. Thanks, Ruby

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Apple tv and uverse

[Melissa Tucker]

Has anyone successfully connected their apple tv to their tv and a uverse box?  
I just got a new apple tv and want to be able to hook it to the uverse box and 
my new tv without disconnecting cables?  I know that this can be done because I 
looked at some forms on uverse about people doing this.  I am just wondering 
about this from the accessibility level of this.  I know there are extra port 
on the box but don't know what it is used for.  I don't know if it's an hdmi 
port.  I know my new tv has the hdmi port.  Thanks for any thoughts on this.  
We still have uverse because my husband likes the sports channels and I don't 
know what networks I have until I set up the apple tv.

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Mbraille questions

[Brandi Penton]

Hi. Does the full version include the third party keyboard and this document 
package? What is the document package? What does it include? I bought the full 
version and now the option to buy the other packages is gone. Does that mean I 
already have them? I guess what I want to know is if I only were to have bought 
this documents package for $16, would that have sufficed. Should I have bought 
that and not the whole full version? Hope my questions make sense. Thank you so 
much for reading

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iphone 5s question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I have an iPhone 5s. I have icloud, dropbox, camera role backing up to dropbox, 
and all camera items backing up automatically to icloud, and downloading picts 
and videos to my Mac, and ipad.
I received an iPhone 6s for Christmas. I have everything transferred to the 
phone. I want to give mom my 5s. How can I remove all data from the phone, but 
not have it erase data picts, etc from icloud and dropbox?
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Re: Thank you

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Ruby,
Am I right in remembering that you at the moment have a for S? and that you are 
running the latest iOS 9.2? because, if so, I have both for S and the six, both 
running the latest, and my four s  is behaving very well. before you pay out a 
load of money for the six, have you reset the phone and have you reset network 
settings? as a last option, you could try resetting back to factory default. I 
am thinking that it might not be your phone but some kind of dodgy download or 
some other software issue that has arisen. if you are unhappy about the outlay 
for an iPhone 6, perhaps, it will be worth trying all of these things before 
you do so…

just my thoughts and I hope they're helpful to you,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Dec 2015, at 17:03, rubyalphonse  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,Thank you,  specially those who helped me giving idea of fixing voice 
> over studder in IOS 9.2. I am thinking of soon to buy, a new IPhone, I don’t 
> want to go for the latest One, I am trying to buy IPhone 6 64 GB. I am not so 
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> a pouch or a hard case, please suggest which one to buy. Thanks, Ruby
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Re: Blindfold cryptogram.

[Donna]

Yes.  

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 6:58 AM, leliastr...@gmail.com  
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> Hi Donna, would you also be able to confirm that sometimes the game gets 
> quirky when flipping between the letters and the puzzle? Thanks!
> 
> Lelia 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 8:31 PM, Donna  wrote:
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>> Hi
>> 
>> I can confirm your findings. Great game though. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 7:26 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com  
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>>> Hi all, I am wondering if anyone who has played this game has had any 
>>> problems when they are in the game going back to the main menu with a three 
>>> finger swipe? The developer and I are talking, I am asking you guys so that 
>>> if you don't have the problem then  I know it's me.
>>> 
>>> Lelia 
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Thank you

[rubyalphonse]

Hi all,Thank you,  specially those who helped me giving idea of fixing voice
over studder in IOS 9.2. I am thinking of soon to buy, a new IPhone, I don't
want to go for the latest One, I am trying to buy IPhone 6 64 GB. I am not
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Sonos accessibility

[Laura]

Hi guys

I got a Sonos playbar for Christmas. Love the sound and setting it up was 
incredibly straight forward. 

Couple of questions, though. I read somewhere before purchasing (old Apple Vis 
thread, I think?) that the Mac Sonos app was completely accessible. This 
doesn’t seem to be the case for me. I’m seeing a lot of unlabelled buttons, and 
no easy way to pick a music source. Am I missing something? I’m using the 
latest version.

Second thing: is anyone using Apple music through Sonos? I can’t seem to find a 
way to navigate the “my music” section by letter — so if I want to find a song 
starting with P, I can’t just jump to that letter and scroll from there. I have 
a lot of music, so having to scroll through every song/album to find something 
I want isn’t ideal, especially when search on the beta currently only searches 
Apples Music, and isn’t limited to individual my music libraries. I know it’s 
only beta, so could be a bug. Just wondering if anyone has got it to work, or 
if there’s an alternative and quicker method of navigation I could use 
meantime. I’m assuming it’s an accessibility issue, because I can’t imagine 
there wouldn’t be more comment on it if every user was coming up against this 
problem.

Cheers for any input.

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Re: IOS

[Christopher J Chaltain]

New versions of IOS usually come out in September. What do you mean by 
VoiceOver will be corrected? It's working fine for me on IOS 9.


On 12/27/2015 9:21 AM, rubyalphonse wrote:


Hello all, I wonder if anyone knows when IOS 10 will be out? Perhaps 
then the voice over will be corrected I guess. Thanks, Ruby


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Re: Keys to go blue tooth keyboard

[Ann Byrne]

And control-option-k for keyboard help.
At 01:14 PM 12/27/2015, you wrote:
If you have quick nav off, press 
control+option+space, or control+windows+space, 
if you come from a Windows world. If quick nav 
is on, press the up and down arrows together. to 
turn quick nav on or off, press the right arrow and the left arrow together.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Kathy and Wilda 
<wi...@nc.rr.com> wrote:


I received the above keyboard for Christmas. I 
need assistance on how it works. I can’t seem 
to open an app by pressing any key twice. Those 
who use this can you give me some assist? Thanks in advance.



Kathy and Wilda


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RE: Thank you

[rubyalphonse]

Hi Sandy, I did the reset, and network settings, I did all what Sieghard, 
Chris, Rob H and some others wrote and told me to do.  Nothing works, I should 
give this IPhone 5 to the apple store and get it exchanged for IPhone 6. I 
somehow don’t like to keep Two phones, I don’t know why. Many thanks for 
suggesting. I appreciate it. Smiles, Ruby

 

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Sent: 27 December 2015 22:41
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Subject: Re: Thank you

 

Ruby,
Am I right in remembering that you at the moment have a for S? and that you are 
running the latest iOS 9.2? because, if so, I have both for S and the six, both 
running the latest, and my four s  is behaving very well. before you pay out a 
load of money for the six, have you reset the phone and have you reset network 
settings? as a last option, you could try resetting back to factory default. I 
am thinking that it might not be your phone but some kind of dodgy download or 
some other software issue that has arisen. if you are unhappy about the outlay 
for an iPhone 6, perhaps, it will be worth trying all of these things before 
you do so…

 

just my thoughts and I hope they're helpful to you,
Sandy


Sent from my iPhone


On 27 Dec 2015, at 17:03, rubyalphonse  wrote:

Hi all,Thank you,  specially those who helped me giving idea of fixing voice 
over studder in IOS 9.2. I am thinking of soon to buy, a new IPhone, I don’t 
want to go for the latest One, I am trying to buy IPhone 6 64 GB. I am not so 
very happy about buying, but, I thought, that is the best. So, I need to buy a 
pouch or a hard case, please suggest which one to buy. Thanks, Ruby

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Keys to go blue tooth keyboard

[Kathy and Wilda]

I received the above keyboard for Christmas. I need assistance on how it
works. I can't seem to open an app by pressing any key twice. Those who use
this can you give me some assist? Thanks in advance.

  

 

Kathy and Wilda

 

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Hulu appears to be now somewhat accessible on AppleTV fourth-generation

[Angela L Griffith]

When you first open  the Hulu app, you'll need to wait several seconds, then 
voiceover will start to speak. Once this happens, you can actually navigate 
around in  the app. It's not perfect, but definitely a start!

I hope this helps someone,

Angela L Griffith
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Re: Thank you

[Alex Stone]

I don't have any specific recommendations, as I don't have an iPhone 
6plus, but i've always had pretty good luck buying cases from ebay. I 
don't know if this can be done easily in India.


On 27/12/2015 17:03, rubyalphonse wrote:


Hi all,Thank you,  specially those who helped me giving idea of fixing 
voice over studder in IOS 9.2. I am thinking of soon to buy, a new 
IPhone, I don’t want to go for the latest One, I am trying to buy 
IPhone 6 64 GB. I am not so very happy about buying, but, I thought, 
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Re: Phone constantly requiring my Apple ID and password please help

[Donna]

Have you gone to Settings, General, Restrictions and confirmed the iTunes 
settings there? Do you have automatic updates turned on? Go to Settings, iTunes 
& app store to check the settings there. If you have automatic updates turned 
on and restrictions set to require a password immediately, this could be the 
cause of your problem. 

Donna

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> This was happening to me before I updated to 9.2. Have you tried completely 
> signing out of the app and iTunes stores, I message, i-cloud and face time, 
> then signing back in?
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 10:46 PM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, ever since I updated all my apps using iTunes, my phone randomly keeps 
>> popping up and telling me to enter my Apple password it already has mighty 
>> filled in. How can I turn this off it is driving me crazy? Any help would be 
>> appreciated. Please and thank you.
>> Dacia
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kevin,

This happens to me, also.  

The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a little 
miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.  

I wonder if there is a workaround for this?

(smile)

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations 
mean, but it can be humorous.

Hi.

I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was selecting 
the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the ball, and where 
it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams.  GB was used for 
Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, and was surprised 
to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever is programming 
VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d just let 
abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who does this.  
I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician was Drive 
Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes too much of 
a good thing.

Just thought I’d share this observation.

Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: Mbraille questions

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
If I remember well, Document pack is a separate purchase from the KB
pack.
If you bought all packs than just activate the MBraille Kb from
Settins, General, Keyboard.


  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

27.12.2015. u 22:35, Brandi Penton je
  napisao/la:


  

Hi. Does the full version include the third party keyboard and this document package? What is the document package? What does it include? I bought the full version and now the option to buy the other packages is gone. Does that mean I already have them? I guess what I want to know is if I only were to have bought this documents package for $16, would that have sufficed. Should I have bought that and not the whole full version? Hope my questions make sense. Thank you so much for reading

Brandi




  




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Re: iphone 5s question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I don’t want to try without being sure it won’t erase everything.
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I'm just guessing, but what happens if you log out of everything, and then, 
> when everything is logged off, and you're sure that you have the data, reset 
> it? 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sarai Bucciarelli  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 27, 2015 9:36 pm
> Subject: iphone 5s question
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi:
>> I have an iPhone 5s. I have icloud, dropbox, camera role backing up to 
>> dropbox, and all camera items backing up automatically to icloud, and 
>> downloading picts and videos to my Mac, and ipad.
>> I received an iPhone 6s for Christmas. I have everything transferred to the 
>> phone. I want to give mom my 5s. How can I remove all data from the phone, 
>> but not have it erase data picts, etc from icloud and dropbox?
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Direct TV App

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Everyone, 

 

I am interested in hearing from people with Direct TV. We are considering
switching to Direct through AT Is the Direct TV app accessible for both
the IPad and IPhone? Can you scroll through the list of channels and hear
the program name followed by a double tap to select that channel? Also are
you able to use the dvr function? 

 

Thank you in advance, 

 

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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Unfortunately, even if the TTS had it, IOS currently doesn't support it. But 
yes, it would work.

- Original Message -
From: Jewel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:05 am
Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

>
>
>  
> Does Nuance not have a dictionary as does Jaws.  If it had, you could 
> instruct it that when it saw GB etc, it was to read the letters, and not try 
> to gainsay it into words.
>  
>  Jewel
> 
> 
> From: Kevin Minor 
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> 
> Hi.
>  
> I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
> to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was 
> selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the 
> ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams.  
> GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, 
> and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever 
> is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they'd 
> just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn't the only one who 
> does this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician 
> was Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes 
> too much of a good thing.
>  
> Just thought I'd share this observation.
>  
> Have a good day, and don't work too hard.
>  
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I'd rather they solved out the pitch issue first, really. 

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:04 am
Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

>
>
> I disagree that there's nothing Apple can do. Apple can definitely work 
> with Nuance to get a toggle added as to whether abbreviations are 
> expanded or not, and then Apple can include a setting for this toggle in 
> VoiceOver settings. I suspect Apple has quite a bit of influence with 
> Nuance, and Nuance would listen to Apple when it comes to a feature request..
> 
> I find it just an inconvenience myself, and I have other things I'd 
> rather have Apple address which I consider a higher priority, so I wont' 
> be dropping a note to Apple accessibility myself.
> 
> On 27/12/15 17:08, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> > I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do, 
> > Nuance programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you. On 
> > my end, I use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only time 
> > he says gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb.
> >
> > Shawn
> > Sent From My White MacBook
> > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >
> >> On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> to all,
> >>
> >> as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, 
> >> they keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify 
> >> apple accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and 
> >> developers who would follow your needs.
> >>
> >> I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other 
> >> things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak out to apple 
> >> yourself. they need your help.
> >>
> >> it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it 
> >> would be easier.
> >>
> >> remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you but 
> >> you can't see me.
> >>
> >> same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know 
> >> what they know. so please be more helpful.
> >>
> >> respectfully,
> >> rich
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> >> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> >>
> >> I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest 
> >> everyone who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would 
> >> write them as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an 
> >> exception dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.
> >> Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
> >> \
> >> Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
> >> Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of M. Taylor
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> >> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> >>
> >> Hello Kevin,
> >>
> >> This happens to me, also.
> >>
> >> The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, 
> >> whose name is Al Jones.  I couldn't find him until I realized that 
> >> VoiceOver was pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and 
> >> then got a little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.
> >>
> >> I wonder if there is a workaround for this?
> >>
> >> (smile)
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of Kevin Minor
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> >> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> >>
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I 
> >> wanted to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and 
> >> was selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has 
> >> the ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the 
> >> teams. GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on 
> >> the screen, and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I 
> >> know whoever is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but 
> >> I wish they'd just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn't 
> >> the only one who does this.  I never knew, for 

Re: Direct TV App

[leliastr...@gmail.com]

Hello, I do use the direct TV app with my iPhone 5 s  and I have successfully 
used the DVR function. It is accessible to me. I cannot say anything about the 
iPad though because I don't have one.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
>  
> I am interested in hearing from people with Direct TV. We are considering 
> switching to Direct through AT Is the Direct TV app accessible for both 
> the IPad and IPhone? Can you scroll through the list of channels and hear the 
> program name followed by a double tap to select that channel? Also are you 
> able to use the dvr function?
>  
> Thank you in advance,
>  
> Lynda
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree we should let Apple know about things that need fixing or 
improving on the iPhone. As you said, Apple won't know what to fix or 
change if they don't hear from us. I've sent many a suggestion to the 
Apple feedback site and accessibility related issues to their 
accessibility mailing list.


I won't be sending in a message about the abbreviation expansion though, 
since as I said, it doesn't bother me personally.


What I didn't understand, and where we may not agree, is that I don't 
think it makes sense to mention the American's with Disabilities Act 
when talking about the abbreviation expansion. I don't think it's an 
employment issue. I'm not sure if that's what you were trying to say or 
not though.


On 27/12/15 18:23, Paul Richard McGann wrote:

mr. chaltain,

I apologize to this, but it is my last effort. like I have no idea what
naunce is as I am deafblind myself. but like I said the quote: yo can
see me but I can't see you...I can see yo but you can't see me.  it
doesn't mean about our visions. but I am talking about reading minds.
you don't see what I know and I don't see what yo know.

apple officials and technicians at apple stores did say if there are
problems keep notifying apple headfquarter more often and they would do
their best to improve to satisfy you  how will apple know that yo are
not happy about something? mr. turner did talk with apple accessiblity
and sorted out. that is wonderful.I only give yo the note what apple
officials said to me in past saying that they would be happy if any
blind people can notify some issues, then they would fix the problems.
they can't be so sure if some work and some are not working. I hope this
helps you.

or even, go to apple store and show techniciian as tecyhnician can see
the problem and technician file report. same with me showing up at apple
store and let tecnician seeing for himself and he saw what happened and
he tried his and realized the problems. same with technicians who are
authorized by apple at att store, verizon store, best buy, and other
stores.

are yo going to contact with apple accessiblity to share your feedback???

respectfully,
rich


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

I disagree that there's nothing Apple can do. Apple can definitely work
with Nuance to get a toggle added as to whether abbreviations are
expanded or not, and then Apple can include a setting for this toggle in
VoiceOver settings. I suspect Apple has quite a bit of influence with
Nuance, and Nuance would listen to Apple when it comes to a feature
request.

I find it just an inconvenience myself, and I have other things I'd
rather have Apple address which I consider a higher priority, so I wont'
be dropping a note to Apple accessibility myself.

On 27/12/15 17:08, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can
do, Nuance programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers
you. On my end, I use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly.
The only time he says gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For
example, 2 gb.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann
 wrote:

to all,

as the people at apple store and few officials for apple
headquarters, they keep telling me that it is very important for al
of you to notify apple accessibility team as team would give note to
the engineers and developers who would follow your needs.

I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are
other things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak
out to apple yourself. they need your help.

it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it
would be easier.

remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see
you but you can't see me.

same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't
know what they know. so please be more helpful.

respectfully,
rich


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest
everyone who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations
would write them as well and ask them to either stop it completely or
provide an exception dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.
Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
\
Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: 

Re: Mbraille questions

[Devin Prater]

Oh, you're talking about mBraille? The documents package is kind of like a note 
taker mode. The full version includes every feature possible to be unlocked.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Brandi Penton  
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> 
> 
> 
> Hi. Does the full version include the third party keyboard and this document 
> package? What is the document package? What does it include? I bought the 
> full version and now the option to buy the other packages is gone. Does that 
> mean I already have them? I guess what I want to know is if I only were to 
> have bought this documents package for $16, would that have sufficed. Should 
> I have bought that and not the whole full version? Hope my questions make 
> sense. Thank you so much for reading
> 
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Shawn Krasniuk]

I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do, Nuance 
programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you. On my end, I 
use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only time he says 
gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann  wrote:
> 
> to all,
> 
> as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, they 
> keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify apple 
> accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and developers 
> who would follow your needs.
> 
> I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other 
> things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak out to apple 
> yourself. they need your help.
> 
> it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it would 
> be easier.
> 
> remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you but 
> you can't see me.
> 
> same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know what 
> they know. so please be more helpful.
> 
> respectfully,
> rich
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest everyone 
> who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them 
> as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception 
> dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.
> Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
> \
> Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
> Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> Hello Kevin,
> 
> This happens to me, also.
> 
> The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
> name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
> pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a 
> little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.
> 
> I wonder if there is a workaround for this?
> 
> (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Minor
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
> to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was 
> selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the 
> ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams. GB 
> was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, and 
> was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever is 
> programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d just 
> let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who does 
> this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician was 
> Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes too 
> much of a good thing.
> 
> Just thought I’d share this observation.
> 
> Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.
> 
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Christopher Chaltain]

I disagree that there's nothing Apple can do. Apple can definitely work 
with Nuance to get a toggle added as to whether abbreviations are 
expanded or not, and then Apple can include a setting for this toggle in 
VoiceOver settings. I suspect Apple has quite a bit of influence with 
Nuance, and Nuance would listen to Apple when it comes to a feature request.


I find it just an inconvenience myself, and I have other things I'd 
rather have Apple address which I consider a higher priority, so I wont' 
be dropping a note to Apple accessibility myself.


On 27/12/15 17:08, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do, Nuance 
programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you. On my end, I 
use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only time he says 
gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann  wrote:

to all,

as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, they 
keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify apple 
accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and developers who 
would follow your needs.

I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other 
things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak out to apple 
yourself. they need your help.

it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it would be 
easier.

remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you but you 
can't see me.

same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know what 
they know. so please be more helpful.

respectfully,
rich


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest everyone who 
would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them as well 
and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception dictionary 
that we can use to fix pronunciations.
Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
\
Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

Hello Kevin,

This happens to me, also.

The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a little 
miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.

I wonder if there is a workaround for this?

(smile)

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations 
mean, but it can be humorous.

Hi.

I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was selecting 
the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the ball, and where 
it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams. GB was used for 
Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, and was surprised 
to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever is programming 
VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d just let 
abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who does this.  
I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician was Drive 
Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes too much of 
a good thing.

Just thought I’d share this observation.

Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Katey Glass]

Unfortunately the only language that does that is Samantha.  All the rest of 
the English languages don't say Boys name Al as if it was the state of Alabama. 
  


Katey.   

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest everyone 
> who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them 
> as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception 
> dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.
> Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
> \
> Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
> Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> Hello Kevin,
> 
> This happens to me, also.  
> 
> The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
> name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
> pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a 
> little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.  
> 
> I wonder if there is a workaround for this?
> 
> (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Minor
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
> to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was 
> selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the 
> ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams.  
> GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, 
> and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever 
> is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d 
> just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who 
> does this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician 
> was Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes 
> too much of a good thing.
> 
> Just thought I’d share this observation.
> 
> Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.
> 
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: Development

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XCode is usable, talk to Alex Hall for more info, he's a developer.

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>> Date: December 27, 2015 at 6:17:06 PM CST
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RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Richard Turner]

I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest everyone who 
would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them as well 
and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception dictionary 
that we can use to fix pronunciations.
Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
\
Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

Hello Kevin,

This happens to me, also.  

The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a little 
miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.  

I wonder if there is a workaround for this?

(smile)

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations 
mean, but it can be humorous.

Hi.

I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was selecting 
the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the ball, and where 
it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams.  GB was used for 
Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, and was surprised 
to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever is programming 
VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d just let 
abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who does this.  
I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician was Drive 
Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes too much of 
a good thing.

Just thought I’d share this observation.

Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.

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[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi, 

 

I tried to send an email to the list using my phone earlier. I am sure that
I typed in the address correctly. The message was bounced back. I can
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Re: Direct TV App

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Recording is accessible. Watching what you recorded isn’t.
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 6:43 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com  
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> Hello, I do use the direct TV app with my iPhone 5 s  and I have successfully 
> used the DVR function. It is accessible to me. I cannot say anything about 
> the iPad though because I don't have one.
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Lynda Ingraham  > wrote:
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>> Hi Everyone, 
>>  
>> I am interested in hearing from people with Direct TV. We are considering 
>> switching to Direct through AT Is the Direct TV app accessible for both 
>> the IPad and IPhone? Can you scroll through the list of channels and hear 
>> the program name followed by a double tap to select that channel? Also are 
>> you able to use the dvr function? 
>>  
>> Thank you in advance, 
>>  
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Paul Richard McGann]

shawn and gordon,

are you going to send notes to apple accessibility??? yes or no?

don't try to point out. it is americans with disabilties act, and it is 
under title iii public accomoation. yo uneed to voice out.


I have been an advocate for almost 25 yers. and I have shared with lawyers 
who ackonwledge this. apple makes huge billion dollars in profit and the can 
do  don't try to point out that you can't. I say yes, you can.


plese speak out.

respectfully,
rich


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From: Shawn Krasniuk

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do, 
Nuance programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you. On my 
end, I use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only time he 
says gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb.


Shawn
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On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann  
wrote:


to all,

as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, 
they keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify 
apple accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and 
developers who would follow your needs.


I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other 
things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak out to apple 
yourself. they need your help.


it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it 
would be easier.


remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you but 
you can't see me.


same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know 
what they know. so please be more helpful.


respectfully,
rich


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest 
everyone who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would 
write them as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an 
exception dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.

Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
\
Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of M. Taylor

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


Hello Kevin,

This happens to me, also.

The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, 
whose name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that 
VoiceOver was pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and 
then got a little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.


I wonder if there is a workaround for this?

(smile)

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Minor

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


Hi.

I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I 
wanted to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and 
was selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has 
the ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the 
teams. GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on 
the screen, and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I 
know whoever is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but 
I wish they’d just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t 
the only one who does this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, 
Court, or my Physician was Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a 
way, but there is sometimes too much of a good thing.


Just thought I’d share this observation.

Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Jewel]

Does Nuance not have a dictionary as does Jaws.  If it had, you could instruct 
it that when it saw GB etc, it was to read the letters, and not try to gainsay 
it into words.

 Jewel


From: Kevin Minor 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations 
mean, but it can be humorous.


Hi.

 

I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was selecting 
the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the ball, and where 
it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams.  GB was used for 
Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, and was surprised 
to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever is programming 
VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d just let 
abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who does this.  
I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician was Drive 
Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes too much of 
a good thing.

 

Just thought I’d share this observation.

 

Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY


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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
I totally agree but I believe it doesn't have much to do with Voice
Over as with Nuance Vocalizer TTS which Voice Over is using. I
really hate when TTS thinks it's smarter than me and that's I liked
Apollo and Juno in the back days and today I like Espeak.


  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

27.12.2015. u 22:57, Kevin Minor je
  napisao/la:


  
  
  
  
Hi.
 
I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C
  running the latest iOs.  I wanted to hear the game between
  Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was selecting the
  feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the
  ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations
  for the teams.  GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating
  through the info on the screen, and was surprised to hear the
  ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever is programming
  VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d
  just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the
  only one who does this.  I never knew, for example about
  Hartford, Court, or my Physician was Drive Johnson.  Oh well,
  it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes too much of a
  good thing.
 
Just thought I’d share this observation.
 
Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.
 
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
  
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Re: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Rick. I wish I had known this earlier. There was a big sale on the 
regular instant pot before Christmas. And I was looking into purchasing it, but 
then I read an article that seemed to indicate that there was a touch screen on 
the front. So that made it sound like it was not going to work too well for a 
totally blind person. I've never actually seen one. I guess I will have to keep 
looking for a sale.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
> 
> Hi there Mary. I don't have the BT version of the Instant Pot but I do have 
> their standard version that is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, and also 
> sautes  among other things. 
> 
> I just wanted to let you know that the Instant pot is most definitely very 
> useable by a blind person. I use mine at least once or twice a week. I simply 
> made a Braille chart of the various buttons along with what they are and 
> their default cook times. I keep this taped to the inside of a cabinet door 
> just above the Instant Pot for easy reference. In addition, this cooker also 
> has plus and minus buttons as well as a manual setting which I actually 
> prefer so you can set your own cooking time if you don't want to use the 
> presets.
> 
> The buttons are definitely fairly tactile but I nevertheless put some lock 
> dots on them for an easier feel. 
> 
> The cooker is also very safe. There is no way you can open it once it comes 
> up to pressure.
> 
> I've never seen the BT version so can't say the buttons and layout are the 
> same but their standard pot is quite useable. Pressure cooking save a ton of 
> time for all kinds of different dishes with the big advantage that all of the 
> flavor is locked into whatever you're cooking. 
> 
> I'm definitely going to check out that podcast and see what this BT version 
> is all about.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
> macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app
> 
> Hi all,
> There has been a lot of talk on certain cooking related websites this past 
> year about an appliance known as an instant pot. It is a multi use appliance, 
> which combines the functionality of slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice 
> cooker, sauté pan, and some other stuff. I was interested in this device, 
> until I finally found an article that went into enough detail to convince me 
> that it would not be usable by a blind person.
> Then just today, I found a podcast done by Victor Saren on applevis.  He 
> demonstrates the Bluetooth app which makes the most expensive variant of the 
> instant pot accessible to blind people. This is not a cheap appliance. But it 
> may be under someone's Christmas tree tomorrow. I would be very curious if 
> there's anyone on any of these lists who has or will be getting this pot and 
> how you like it and the app. There are recipes on the instant pot website. 
> And I have found some recipes on another website. You can also adapt pressure 
> cooker recipes for it, but it cooks at a slightly lower pressure than the 
> usual stovetop pressure cookers. The app also lets you enter your own 
> recipes. There is also going to be or is, an android app
> Mary
> 
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Rajmund]

Hi,
Actually, same with Samantha. If I put: 2GB, I'll hear giga ytes. But if I put 
GB, I won't hear giga bytes. I'll just hear g b. Although, for SD, she does say 
South Dacota, (excuse spelling). 

- Original Message -
From: Shawn Krasniuk  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 pm
Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

>
>
> I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do, 
> Nuance programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you. On my 
> end, I use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only time he 
> says gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> > On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > to all,
> > 
> > as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, they 
> > keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify apple 
> > accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and developers 
> > who would follow your needs.
> > 
> > I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other 
> > things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak out to apple 
> > yourself. they need your help.
> > 
> > it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it would 
> > be easier.
> > 
> > remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you but 
> > you can't see me.
> > 
> > same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know what 
> > they know. so please be more helpful.
> > 
> > respectfully,
> > rich
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
> > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> > abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> > 
> > I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest everyone 
> > who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them 
> > as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception 
> > dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.
> > Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
> > \
> > Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
> > Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of M. Taylor
> > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> > abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> > 
> > Hello Kevin,
> > 
> > This happens to me, also.
> > 
> > The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, 
> > whose name is Al Jones.  I couldn't find him until I realized that 
> > VoiceOver was pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and 
> > then got a little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.
> > 
> > I wonder if there is a workaround for this?
> > 
> > (smile)
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Kevin Minor
> > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> > abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> > 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I 
> > wanted to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and 
> > was selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has 
> > the ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the 
> > teams. GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the 
> > screen, and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know 
> > whoever is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish 
> > they'd just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn't the only 
> > one who does this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my 
> > Physician was Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there 
> > is sometimes too much of a good thing.
> > 
> > Just thought I'd share this observation.
> > 
> > Have a good day, and don't work too hard.
> > 
> > Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Christopher Chaltain]

It's hard for me to understand this message, so I apologize if I get it 
wrong, but I don't think a text to speech engine trying to pronounce 
abbreviations has anything to do with the American's with Disabilities 
Act. I can't think of a situation where someone would be at a 
disadvantage in an employment situation because a synthesizer expanded 
an abbreviation.


On 27/12/15 17:14, Paul Richard McGann wrote:

shawn and gordon,

are you going to send notes to apple accessibility??? yes or no?

don't try to point out. it is americans with disabilties act, and it is
under title iii public accomoation. yo uneed to voice out.

I have been an advocate for almost 25 yers. and I have shared with
lawyers who ackonwledge this. apple makes huge billion dollars in profit
and the can do  don't try to point out that you can't. I say yes, you can.

plese speak out.

respectfully,
rich


-Original Message- From: Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do,
Nuance programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you.
On my end, I use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only
time he says gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann
 wrote:

to all,

as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters,
they keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify
apple accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and
developers who would follow your needs.

I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are
other things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak
out to apple yourself. they need your help.

it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it
would be easier.

remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you
but you can't see me.

same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know
what they know. so please be more helpful.

respectfully,
rich


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest
everyone who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations
would write them as well and ask them to either stop it completely or
provide an exception dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.
Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
\
Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

Hello Kevin,

This happens to me, also.

The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts,
whose name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that
VoiceOver was pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid
and then got a little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.

I wonder if there is a workaround for this?

(smile)

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

Hi.

I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I
wanted to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there,
and was selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about
who has the ball, and where it is on the field.  They use
abbreviations for the teams. GB was used for Green Bay.  I was
navigating through the info on the screen, and was surprised to hear
the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever is programming
VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d just let
abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who
does this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my
Physician was Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but
there is sometimes too much of a good thing.

Just thought I’d share this observation.

Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Paul Richard McGann]

mr. chaltain,

I apologize to this, but it is my last effort. like I have no idea what 
naunce is as I am deafblind myself. but like I said the quote: yo can see me 
but I can't see you...I can see yo but you can't see me.  it doesn't mean 
about our visions. but I am talking about reading minds. you don't see what 
I know and I don't see what yo know.


apple officials and technicians at apple stores did say if there are 
problems keep notifying apple headfquarter more often and they would do 
their best to improve to satisfy you  how will apple know that yo are not 
happy about something? mr. turner did talk with apple accessiblity and 
sorted out. that is wonderful.I only give yo the note what apple officials 
said to me in past saying that they would be happy if any blind people can 
notify some issues, then they would fix the problems. they can't be so sure 
if some work and some are not working. I hope this helps you.


or even, go to apple store and show techniciian as tecyhnician can see the 
problem and technician file report. same with me showing up at apple store 
and let tecnician seeing for himself and he saw what happened and he tried 
his and realized the problems. same with technicians who are authorized by 
apple at att store, verizon store, best buy, and other stores.


are yo going to contact with apple accessiblity to share your feedback???

respectfully,
rich


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


I disagree that there's nothing Apple can do. Apple can definitely work
with Nuance to get a toggle added as to whether abbreviations are
expanded or not, and then Apple can include a setting for this toggle in
VoiceOver settings. I suspect Apple has quite a bit of influence with
Nuance, and Nuance would listen to Apple when it comes to a feature request.

I find it just an inconvenience myself, and I have other things I'd
rather have Apple address which I consider a higher priority, so I wont'
be dropping a note to Apple accessibility myself.

On 27/12/15 17:08, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do, 
Nuance programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you. On 
my end, I use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only time 
he says gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann  
wrote:


to all,

as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, 
they keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify 
apple accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and 
developers who would follow your needs.


I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other 
things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak out to 
apple yourself. they need your help.


it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it 
would be easier.


remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you 
but you can't see me.


same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know 
what they know. so please be more helpful.


respectfully,
rich


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest 
everyone who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would 
write them as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide 
an exception dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.

Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
\
Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


Hello Kevin,

This happens to me, also.

The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, 
whose name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that 
VoiceOver was pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid 
and then got a little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.


I wonder if there is a workaround for this?

(smile)

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 

Vo abreviations

[david gross]

The one that drives me crazy is AL is Alabama.

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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Not sure, but its pretty funny, when you abbreviate facetime as FT, and the 
siri voices (some, anyway) say feature, or featuring, can't remember which. 
While not the best, try experimenting with voices?

- Original Message -
From: M. Taylor  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:09 pm
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

>
>
> Hello Kevin,
> 
> This happens to me, also.  
> 
> The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
> name is Al Jones.  I couldn't find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
> pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a 
> little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.  
> 
> I wonder if there is a workaround for this?
> 
> (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Minor
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
> to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was 
> selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the 
> ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams.  
> GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, 
> and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever 
> is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they'd 
> just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn't the only one who 
> does this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician 
> was Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes 
> too much of a good thing.
> 
> Just thought I'd share this observation.
> 
> Have a good day, and don't work too hard.
> 
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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RE: iPhone classes

[Rose Combs]

I read Anna Dresner's book about the iPhone 4 all the way through, then got the 
iPhone and used the book to get started, jointed the iPhone list here and 
continued to learn.  I don't know it all of course but I can find info on 
whatever I need.  I hated the phone for the first couple of weeks, but now some 
nearly five years after I would not have anything else and I never leave home 
without it.  


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone classes

I find that the various podcasts about the iPhone and iPads, etc., are
almost as helpful as live classes would be.  And the description of the
voice over gestures in the "getting Started with the iPhone" book are very
helpful.  I've been working with an iPod Touch 6 for a couple of weeks and
already I'm gaining some success getting where I want to go with 
Lois Goodine.

the gestures.  Still fumble a lot, but I'm on the way.  Keep working at it.

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Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone classes

When I bought my iPhone 5 in 2012, I was provided a one hour tutorial
on voiceOver on at Apple store when I told them that this was my first
cell phone ever.  After the tutorial, I realized how many fundamentals
I needed to learn and to become accustomed to using a touch screen
interface.  Even though the trainer at the Apple store was sighted, he
was as proficient at voiceOver as experienced blind foiceOver users.
It took me two to three months of practice to become comfortable
navigating the iPhone's touch screen interface.  this is something
that doesn't come through teaching but through practice.



Kelly

On 12/25/15, Shai  wrote:
> Hello Verlyn,
> If you reside in the United States (which I think you do given that
> you brought up taking classes at the Verizon store), you may want to
> check out the classes offered by your local Braille Institute. This
> place may have a program called Connection Point or some other name
> which trains students on technology such as the iPhone.
> Contacting your local Apple store to see if someone there has
> knowledge of VoiceOver, asking questions on list  or listening to
> podcasts on AppleVis are also good alternatives.
> Good luck on getting trained with the accessibility features on iPhone.
>
> On 12/24/15, Verlyn Baldwin  wrote:
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> Having had my first Apple device (5S) for less than a week, I am
>> wondering
>> if I would benefit from attending an iPhone class at the Verizon store.
>> And/or setting an appointment with the Apple store.
>>
>> Being without any useable vision I am just getting used to VO and Siri
>> and
>> the gestures.
>>
>> Your sharing your experiences and recommendations is appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Verlyn
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

[Rick Alfaro]

Mary, at least the model I have is not touch screen. The buttons are sort of 
like raised bubbles so I could see how maybe a sighted person would think it 
was a touch screen.

I just looked at the BT version and it's currently selling for $179 which is 
substantially lower than it was when I purchased my original instant pot. It 
was close to $300 then so $179 really looks like a deal since the standard 6qt 
model sells for $118. I'd definitely spend the extra $60 for the convenience 
and better accessibility of the BT model. I'm thinking about ordering one but 
need to listen to that podcast first.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

Thanks, Rick. I wish I had known this earlier. There was a big sale on the 
regular instant pot before Christmas. And I was looking into purchasing it, but 
then I read an article that seemed to indicate that there was a touch screen on 
the front. So that made it sound like it was not going to work too well for a 
totally blind person. I've never actually seen one. I guess I will have to keep 
looking for a sale.
Mary


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> On Dec 27, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
> 
> Hi there Mary. I don't have the BT version of the Instant Pot but I do have 
> their standard version that is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, and also 
> sautes  among other things. 
> 
> I just wanted to let you know that the Instant pot is most definitely very 
> useable by a blind person. I use mine at least once or twice a week. I simply 
> made a Braille chart of the various buttons along with what they are and 
> their default cook times. I keep this taped to the inside of a cabinet door 
> just above the Instant Pot for easy reference. In addition, this cooker also 
> has plus and minus buttons as well as a manual setting which I actually 
> prefer so you can set your own cooking time if you don't want to use the 
> presets.
> 
> The buttons are definitely fairly tactile but I nevertheless put some lock 
> dots on them for an easier feel. 
> 
> The cooker is also very safe. There is no way you can open it once it comes 
> up to pressure.
> 
> I've never seen the BT version so can't say the buttons and layout are the 
> same but their standard pot is quite useable. Pressure cooking save a ton of 
> time for all kinds of different dishes with the big advantage that all of the 
> flavor is locked into whatever you're cooking. 
> 
> I'm definitely going to check out that podcast and see what this BT version 
> is all about.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
> macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app
> 
> Hi all,
> There has been a lot of talk on certain cooking related websites this past 
> year about an appliance known as an instant pot. It is a multi use appliance, 
> which combines the functionality of slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice 
> cooker, sauté pan, and some other stuff. I was interested in this device, 
> until I finally found an article that went into enough detail to convince me 
> that it would not be usable by a blind person.
> Then just today, I found a podcast done by Victor Saren on applevis.  He 
> demonstrates the Bluetooth app which makes the most expensive variant of the 
> instant pot accessible to blind people. This is not a cheap appliance. But it 
> may be under someone's Christmas tree tomorrow. I would be very curious if 
> there's anyone on any of these lists who has or will be getting this pot and 
> how you like it and the app. There are recipes on the instant pot website. 
> And I have found some recipes on another website. You can also adapt pressure 
> cooker recipes for it, but it cooks at a slightly lower pressure than the 
> usual stovetop pressure cookers. The app also lets you enter your own 
> recipes. There is also going to be or is, an android app
> Mary
> 
> 
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Fwd: Development

['Bud Kennedy' via VIPhone]

Bud Kennedy 
Sent from my iPhone 

Begin forwarded message:

> From: William Kennedy 
> Date: December 27, 2015 at 6:17:06 PM CST
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Development 
> 
> Are Xcode and Swift accessible?(? Are there any blind developer lists? 
> Thanks. 
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Re: iphone 5s question

[Rajmund]

Hello,
When you back up, and or just log IOS out of dropbox, the data will stay. 
Although, I agree, better to be safe than sorry.,




Sent from an iPad

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> I don’t want to try without being sure it won’t erase everything.
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> I'm just guessing, but what happens if you log out of everything, and then, 
>> when everything is logged off, and you're sure that you have the data, reset 
>> it? 
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>> - Original Message -
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>>> I received an iPhone 6s for Christmas. I have everything transferred to the 
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Re: cracked my ipad air glass

[Yolanda]

Yep, sure can.  Most Apple stores can do it at the store.

On 12/27/2015 5:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:


I have cracked the glas  on my Ipad air. Can it be repaired?

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Re: iphone 5s question

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I'm just guessing, but what happens if you log out of everything, and then, 
when everything is logged off, and you're sure that you have the data, reset 
it? 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 27, 2015 9:36 pm
Subject: iphone 5s question

>
>
> Hi:
> I have an iPhone 5s. I have icloud, dropbox, camera role backing up to 
> dropbox, and all camera items backing up automatically to icloud, and 
> downloading picts and videos to my Mac, and ipad.
> I received an iPhone 6s for Christmas. I have everything transferred to the 
> phone. I want to give mom my 5s. How can I remove all data from the phone, 
> but not have it erase data picts, etc from icloud and dropbox?
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was selecting 
the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the ball, and where 
it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams.  GB was used for 
Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, and was surprised 
to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever is programming 
VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they'd just let 
abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn't the only one who does this.  
I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician was Drive 
Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes too much of 
a good thing.

Just thought I'd share this observation.

Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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RE: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi there Mary. I don't have the BT version of the Instant Pot but I do have 
their standard version that is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, and also sautes  
among other things. 

I just wanted to let you know that the Instant pot is most definitely very 
useable by a blind person. I use mine at least once or twice a week. I simply 
made a Braille chart of the various buttons along with what they are and their 
default cook times. I keep this taped to the inside of a cabinet door just 
above the Instant Pot for easy reference. In addition, this cooker also has 
plus and minus buttons as well as a manual setting which I actually prefer so 
you can set your own cooking time if you don't want to use the presets.

The buttons are definitely fairly tactile but I nevertheless put some lock dots 
on them for an easier feel. 

The cooker is also very safe. There is no way you can open it once it comes up 
to pressure.

I've never seen the BT version so can't say the buttons and layout are the same 
but their standard pot is quite useable. Pressure cooking save a ton of time 
for all kinds of different dishes with the big advantage that all of the flavor 
is locked into whatever you're cooking. 

I'm definitely going to check out that podcast and see what this BT version is 
all about.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:51 PM
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macvoiceo...@freelists.org
Subject: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

Hi all,
There has been a lot of talk on certain cooking related websites this past year 
about an appliance known as an instant pot. It is a multi use appliance, which 
combines the functionality of slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker, sauté 
pan, and some other stuff. I was interested in this device, until I finally 
found an article that went into enough detail to convince me that it would not 
be usable by a blind person.
Then just today, I found a podcast done by Victor Saren on applevis.  He 
demonstrates the Bluetooth app which makes the most expensive variant of the 
instant pot accessible to blind people. This is not a cheap appliance. But it 
may be under someone's Christmas tree tomorrow. I would be very curious if 
there's anyone on any of these lists who has or will be getting this pot and 
how you like it and the app. There are recipes on the instant pot website. And 
I have found some recipes on another website. You can also adapt pressure 
cooker recipes for it, but it cooks at a slightly lower pressure than the usual 
stovetop pressure cookers. The app also lets you enter your own recipes. There 
is also going to be or is, an android app
Mary


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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all,

as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, they 
keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify apple 
accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and developers 
who would follow your needs.


I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other 
things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak out to apple 
yourself. they need your help.


it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it would 
be easier.


remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you but 
you can't see me.


same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know what 
they know. so please be more helpful.


respectfully,
rich


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From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest everyone 
who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them 
as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception 
dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.

Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
\
Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.

Richard

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Of M. Taylor

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


Hello Kevin,

This happens to me, also.

The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a 
little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.


I wonder if there is a workaround for this?

(smile)

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Minor

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.


Hi.

I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I 
wanted to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was 
selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the 
ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams. 
GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, 
and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever 
is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d 
just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who 
does this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician 
was Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes 
too much of a good thing.


Just thought I’d share this observation.

Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Shawn Krasniuk]

No, because like I said, it's a Nuance issue, not an Apple issue. The nuance 
Vocalizer voices do that on every platform, weather it's iOS's or OS X's 
Voiceover, NVDA and Jaws. Like I said, Alex doesn't do that, and that's who I 
use all the time. I might use one of the Siri voices here and there, which I 
might add are also owned by Nuance as well, but I lean back on Alex. Just keep 
that in mind, it's not just an Apple issue, it's everywhere else too. Nuance 
would have to reprogram their voices so that it would ignore abbreviations or 
make them smarter like Apple does with Alex. Also, they would have to do that 
on every platform.

Shawn
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Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Richard McGann  wrote:
> 
> shawn and gordon,
> 
> are you going to send notes to apple accessibility??? yes or no?
> 
> don't try to point out. it is americans with disabilties act, and it is under 
> title iii public accomoation. yo uneed to voice out.
> 
> I have been an advocate for almost 25 yers. and I have shared with lawyers 
> who ackonwledge this. apple makes huge billion dollars in profit and the can 
> do  don't try to point out that you can't. I say yes, you can.
> 
> plese speak out.
> 
> respectfully,
> rich
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shawn Krasniuk
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do, 
> Nuance programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you. On my 
> end, I use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only time he 
> says gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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> 
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> to all,
>> 
>> as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, they 
>> keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify apple 
>> accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and developers 
>> who would follow your needs.
>> 
>> I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other 
>> things. plese don't hold  back to yourself. open up and speak out to apple 
>> yourself. they need your help.
>> 
>> it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it would 
>> be easier.
>> 
>> remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you but 
>> you can't see me.
>> 
>> same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know what 
>> they know. so please be more helpful.
>> 
>> respectfully,
>> rich
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
>> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
>> 
>> I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest everyone 
>> who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them 
>> as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception 
>> dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.
>> Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
>> \
>> Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
>> Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
>> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
>> 
>> Hello Kevin,
>> 
>> This happens to me, also.
>> 
>> The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
>> name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
>> pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a 
>> little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.
>> 
>> I wonder if there is a workaround for this?
>> 
>> (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kevin Minor
>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
>> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I 
>> wanted to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, 

Hi, this is a new user of Iphone 6s

[HemaChandran]

Hi all,

 

I feel privileged to write to you as a proud new user of voiceover user on
Iphone 6s. It will be great if you could help me get started on using the
inbuilt braille virtual keyboard. Thanks so  much.

 

Warmly,

Hema.

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Re: Hi, this is a new user of Iphone 6s

[Devin Prater]

Okay, I'll start off as if you've not got it in your rotor, so sorry if its 
boring for a few novels or so, lol.
First, you have to know how to use the rotor, which is how you access 
on-the-fly features of voiceover. Its almost like the alt+control+arrow key 
thing Window-eyes has, but with different options, but the idea is the same. To 
turn the rotor to select options to change, put two fingers on the screen, then 
twist the fingers clockwise or counterclockwise. You'll hear things like 
characters, words, headings… things like that. To adjust that option, like to 
move by characters for example, twist to characters, then flick down. That's 
the basic usage of the rotor.
Now, we can go on and get the braille screen input working. Go to your 
homescreen, then find the settings app. Double tap on settings when you hear 
it. Then, find general, within the settings app and double tap general. Next, 
find accessibility and double tap that. Then, find voiceover and double tap 
that. Don't worry, you won't turn it off. Then, find rotor, and double tap 
that. Now, find braille screen input, and double tap that. It should say that 
it is selected, which is what you want. Now, go to the home screen, and I'll 
show you a neet trick with braille screen input. Twist the rotor to braille 
screen input, and turn the phone to landscape mode, where it long instead of 
tall. Yes, that's the bes way I can explain it. Now, the braille screen input 
is active, and you can start typing, but if it ever starts putting in wrong 
characters, press dots 4-5-6, then dots 1-2-3 quickly, making almost an equals 
sign, in math, … if you know nimeth code, but with dots 5 and 2 included. If 
you do it quick enough, almost the quickness of double tapping, you'll hear 
"dot positions calibrated". This means that where ever you placed your fingers 
for the 456-123 gesture, that's where the dots will be, bt don't worry about 
being exact. I know I'm not the most steady person, but my brailling usually 
works well. Now, about the home screen, start typing the name of an app. Yes, 
you can search for apps in this way. To choose a suggestion, which also works 
for words in text fields, swipe up or down. To type a space, swipe right with 
one finger. To press "enter" on an app, which also works in text fields, swipe 
right with two fingers. To backspace a letter, swipe left with one finger. To 
backspace a whole word, swipe left with two fingers. When you're searching for 
apps, only 6-dot braille can be used. When in text fields, swipe left with 
three fingers to change from six-dot and contracted braille, or if you're on a 
plus-sized phone, you can use 8-dot braille for super-acurate ascii input, lol. 
Also, if you find that you move around a lot, and the phone keeps going into 
portrate mode, or table top mode, put it into landscape and swipe up with three 
fingers.

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> On Dec 27, 2015, at 10:24 PM, HemaChandran  wrote:
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> Hi all,
>  
> I feel privileged to write to you as a proud new user of voiceover user on 
> Iphone 6s. It will be great if you could help me get started on using the 
> inbuilt braille virtual keyboard. Thanks so  much.
>  
> Warmly,
> Hema.
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RE: Battery usage and level indicator

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kimberly,

Just recalibrate your battery by fully discharging it and that is to the point 
where the iPhone turns off because the battery totally runs out. Then charge it 
overnight and repeat once more, i.e. use it again and let it fully discharge. 
You can speed this up by doing some battery intensive task like streaming video 
or turning on a GPS app. After the second shut-off once again charge it up 
fully, then do what you normally do, i.e. run it down to 20% or so and charge 
it and see if this fixes your issue. There is no need to prevent yourself from 
getting phone calls by putting the phone into airplane mode to charge, I doubt 
it would do so much faster than if it is just sitting there with the screen 
locked. 


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery usage and level indicator

Hi,

Ever since yesterday something weird is going on with my battery level 
indicator. When I plug in the phone, the indicator says charging but the 
percentage shown either increases very slowly or not at all. I'm not sure if 
there is a problem with my battery or the indicator.

I have done all the usual stuff like empty the app switcher, reboot the phone, 
reset network settings but nothing has corrected the issue. Previously my phone 
would charge really fast when placed in airplane mode, but now even airplane 
isn't doing the trick.

When I look under battery in settings, I see a standby time of 25 hours and a 
usage of 22 hours which seems pretty normal.

Can anyone shed some light on this issue? Anything I can do to try and fix the 
problem short of going to the Apple Store?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.



Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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RE: cracked my ipad air glass

[SSEric]

It was an iPhone, but a friend ordered parts on line and used a You Tube
video to replace his broken glass. It cost him $35.

 

I talked with a local repair shop about my Touch possibly needing a battery.
They said it would be $60 to replace it. I say that just to indicate you may
have local people who do that sort of work.

 

Eric

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:48 PM
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Subject: cracked my ipad air glass

 

I have cracked the glas  on my Ipad air.  Can it be repaired?

 

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Re: iPhone classes

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
When I started using an iPhone 4 back in March of 2010 I had the very same 
questions and doubts about using any sort of iDevice with a touch screen.  But 
I'm the adventurous sort, and I dived right in. Thank God I had help from a 
coworker who was adept at using VoiceOver and she introduced me to the basic VO 
gestures. Having mastered those basic gestures, I've found  and am convinced 
that mastery of those essential gestures is key  to doing whatever you want to 
do on an iPhone or an iPad, no matter what app you install and work with. I 
also have found Ana Dresner's books instrumental in helping me discover what 
the device is capable of;  with their conversational, casual tone, her books  
show that she has a real knack for piquing your interest and, importantly, 
removing the fear factor that inevitably accompanies exploring unfamiliar 
territory. I recommend her books gighly to all of my students.  Jonathan 
Mosen's books are also very handy. Read at least one of thosh books, find some 
folks who already use an iPhone so you can get some valuable tips, and don't be 
afraid to explore, dig in  and get your hands dirty, so to speak. You'll be 
glad you did.

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> On Dec 24, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Verlyn Baldwin  wrote:
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> Hello Group,
> Having had my first Apple device (5S) for less than a week, I am wondering if 
> I would benefit from attending an iPhone class at the Verizon store. And/or 
> setting an appointment with the Apple store.
> Being without any useable vision I am just getting used to VO and Siri and 
> the gestures.
> Your sharing your experiences and recommendations is appreciated.
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