Offline dictation in 9.3

[denise avant]

Hi all,
I’m wondering if offline dictation is available on the iPad Air 2? I heard a 
podcast that said it was only on the iphone. Is this right? Also can it be used 
anywhere else besides notes, like ms word?
Thanks.

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Re: iphone se

[englishrider91]

Actually, this is incorrect. There is a podcast on AppleVis about 3-D touch, 
and it describes how to use this function if you flick to things. You don't 
have to first touch the icon, then perform the 3-D touch gesture. You can 
actually perform them if all you do is flick to get to things.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, but in order to double tap anywhere to open an app you have to first 
> touch the app and when you touch the app you already have your finger in the 
> right place to press and invoke the 3D touch menu.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ronald van Rhijn
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone se
>  
> I never use 3D Touch. Of course its all new and we need to get used to it. My 
> biggest problem with it in terms of time saving is concerned is you have to 
> put your finger on the exact location of the app you want to perform the 3D 
> action on. Personnally I swipe alot to get to the desired app and then double 
> tapping somewhere on the screen to open. So by the time I find the exact 
> location of some apps, I already opened it with swiping and double tapping 
> anywhere on the screen.
> No doubt more and better usage of 3D Touch will come.
>  
> Ronald
>  
>  
> Op 23 mrt. 2016, om 08:32 heeft Sieghard Weitzel  het 
> volgende geschreven:
>  
> Hi Kevin,
>  
> It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean by 
> “it’s not discoverable”, but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch options are 
> available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in certain situations. 
> For example, using it with the App Store app if I want to search for an app. 
> Instead of double tapping on the app, then double tapping on the search tab 
> at the bottom and then finding the search edit field at the top left and 
> double tapping on it to put focus in it and bring up the keyboard, I just 
> press down on the App Store icon on the home screen, do a quick swipe right 
> (that puts me on the “Search” option in the menu, then I do a quick double 
> tap and bingo, focus is already in the search box with the keyboard on the 
> screen waiting for me to type my search term.
> Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or my 
> manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a couple of 
> times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the context menu 
> (they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app with useful 
> functions in the context menu is the Camera app.
>  
> These are just a few examples, I’m sure in time Apple will figure out more 
> ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably 
> depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to 
> keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications 
> which we as blind users may not be able to use.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Chao
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone se
>  
> 3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of 
> where it can be used or where it works. 
> it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting with 
> it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.
>  
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below £100 
> as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
> Talks on even now. I still have some.
> 
> The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of 
> those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish
> stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.
> 
> BobH.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
> Subject: RE: iphone se
> 
> 
> Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. 
> But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
> 4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a 
> free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
> unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a used 
> 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
> Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I also 
> still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
> probably should have done so before this came out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ronald van Rhijn
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone se
> 
> 
> 
> Well, I assume you don’t understand Dutch, so giving you the link 

Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

[Christopher Chaltain]

So what happened? Did it work for you or did I just send you to a page 
with instructions that you already tried but didn't work? If you 
restored your phone then great, but if not, maybe there's something else 
I or someone else can suggest to get you back to having a working phone!


On 23/03/16 23:55, Cris Ali wrote:

Thanks Chris,
This is the same page I found when I did a google search.
Thanks a lot again.
Regards,
Cris

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Christopher Chaltain
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Subject: Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

OK, try this page then: https://support.apple.com/en-sg/HT201263

Like I said, I know I've had to do it myself before, and I think instructions 
like these were what I ended up following.

On 23/03/16 20:35, Cris Ali wrote:

Hi Chris,
What I am trying to find is actually the way for a forced recovery mode.  The 
link you gave me has instruction for a normal restore.  It did not work.  It 
simply said it could not verify my iPad.  I remember that Jonathan and few 
others put some instructions to do forced recovery, or perhaps they called it 
something else, although it allowed for the recovery of the device when it 
stops responding.
Regards,
Cris

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

If you have iTunes on your PC or Mac, you can follow the instructions
at
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/wipe-ipad-factory-settings-passcode-555
72.html to recover your iPad. I've had to do this several times when
I've had failed installs on my iPhone.

On 23/03/16 06:51, Cris Ali wrote:

Hello folks,

The subject says it all.  I have a failed upgrade of an iPad two.  I
am now in a vicious circle.  When I start the iPad I get a message
telling me that I have few more steps to complete the upgrade. When I
tap on continue it asks me to wait then I get the message that the
attempts failed.  I did a hard reset by pressing the power together
with the home key for ten seconds to no avail.  I need to know the
sequence of having a forced restore to come out of this vicious circle.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Cris

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RE: best car stereo iphone 5s

[Bryan Schulz]

Hi,

Just curious, are you playing the guy in the zz top song and dwb?
Bryan

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Subject: best car stereo iphone 5s

Hi, I am in search of a nice car stereo that has Bluetooth 4.0 or later with 
carkit that a blind person can use. Right now I have a kenwood in my truck, but 
that can only handle phone calls and not the full car kit experience.  I had a 
friend buy one from walmart and when connected I can hear everything on my 
phone including voice over speech. This does have a touch screen, but does have 
a remote so I'd be able to use the other features of the stereo via its remote 
when iphone is not connected.

I'd like to get one for my truck, does anyone have any suggestions or things I 
should be looking for when making this sort of purchase?

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Re: Setting the tone that rings when the timer goes off

[Richard Turner]

I forgot to mention when you have selected your tone, there is a "set" button 
in the upper right you have to double tap on to set the new tone.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, richard. I never actually open the timer app. I guess I will have 
> to. I have never set a timer manually, since I always go through Siri?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I usually set timers manually, but I think once you set a timer sound, it 
>> becomes the default. Open the clock app, select timer, double tap on "when 
>> timer ends" and pick a new sound.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod 6
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like to know how I can change the tone that goes off when a timer 
>>> which I have used Siri to send goes off. I am supposed to be in charge of a 
>>> meditation group tomorrow. And I need to be able to set a timer on my phone 
>>> and it should go off in 30 minutes. That's easy. But the tone that 
>>> announces the timer going off is not good. How can I change it? I have 
>>> looked in settings and found nothing useful.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Chris,
This is the same page I found when I did a google search.  
Thanks a lot again.
Regards,
Cris

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Subject: Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

OK, try this page then: https://support.apple.com/en-sg/HT201263

Like I said, I know I've had to do it myself before, and I think instructions 
like these were what I ended up following.

On 23/03/16 20:35, Cris Ali wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> What I am trying to find is actually the way for a forced recovery mode.  The 
> link you gave me has instruction for a normal restore.  It did not work.  It 
> simply said it could not verify my iPad.  I remember that Jonathan and few 
> others put some instructions to do forced recovery, or perhaps they called it 
> something else, although it allowed for the recovery of the device when it 
> stops responding.
> Regards,
> Cris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?
>
> If you have iTunes on your PC or Mac, you can follow the instructions 
> at 
> http://smallbusiness.chron.com/wipe-ipad-factory-settings-passcode-555
> 72.html to recover your iPad. I've had to do this several times when 
> I've had failed installs on my iPhone.
>
> On 23/03/16 06:51, Cris Ali wrote:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> The subject says it all.  I have a failed upgrade of an iPad two.  I 
>> am now in a vicious circle.  When I start the iPad I get a message 
>> telling me that I have few more steps to complete the upgrade. When I 
>> tap on continue it asks me to wait then I get the message that the 
>> attempts failed.  I did a hard reset by pressing the power together 
>> with the home key for ten seconds to no avail.  I need to know the 
>> sequence of having a forced restore to come out of this vicious circle.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Cris
>>
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best car stereo iphone 5s

[Jim Ruby]

Hi, I am in search of a nice car stereo that has Bluetooth 4.0 or later with 
carkit that a blind person can use. Right now I have a kenwood in my truck, but 
that can only handle phone calls and not the full car kit experience.  I had a 
friend buy one from walmart and when connected I can hear everything on my 
phone including voice over speech. This does have a touch screen, but does have 
a remote so I'd be able to use the other features of the stereo via its remote 
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I'd like to get one for my truck, does anyone have any suggestions or things I 
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Re: Setting the tone that rings when the timer goes off

[Mary Otten]

Thank you, richard. I never actually open the timer app. I guess I will have 
to. I have never set a timer manually, since I always go through Siri?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I usually set timers manually, but I think once you set a timer sound, it 
> becomes the default. Open the clock app, select timer, double tap on "when 
> timer ends" and pick a new sound.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod 6
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to know how I can change the tone that goes off when a timer 
>> which I have used Siri to send goes off. I am supposed to be in charge of a 
>> meditation group tomorrow. And I need to be able to set a timer on my phone 
>> and it should go off in 30 minutes. That's easy. But the tone that announces 
>> the timer going off is not good. How can I change it? I have looked in 
>> settings and found nothing useful.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Setting the tone that rings when the timer goes off

[Richard Turner]

I usually set timers manually, but I think once you set a timer sound, it 
becomes the default. Open the clock app, select timer, double tap on "when 
timer ends" and pick a new sound.
HTH,
Richard


Sent from my iPod 6

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I would like to know how I can change the tone that goes off when a timer 
> which I have used Siri to send goes off. I am supposed to be in charge of a 
> meditation group tomorrow. And I need to be able to set a timer on my phone 
> and it should go off in 30 minutes. That's easy. But the tone that announces 
> the timer going off is not good. How can I change it? I have looked in 
> settings and found nothing useful.
> Mary
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Re: 9.3 so far

[Feliciano Godoy]

I use the enhanced Samantha speech on my iPhone 6s. It sounds fuller. I like it 
because I average about 85% on the speech rate.

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> On Mar 22, 2016, at 4:44 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> No.  She sounds different on the 5s, but the same on the iPad air.
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  To:  Date sent: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:26:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: 9.3 so far
> 
> 
> All I am saying is that for me, on my 5s, Samantha sounds more muffled than 
> before.
> It sounds the same on my iPod Touch 6th generation.
> So, it could be my device, my case, my ears, or something else, like my 
> imagination?
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:33 AM, deidre muccio  wrote:
> 
> Richard
> Do I understand that you are saying that the voice over female voice has 
> changed? I'm particularly sensitive to readers/voices so muffled sure does 
> not sound good to me.
>   Deidre
>   -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 9.3 so far
> 
> Greetings,
> Well, the 9.3 update went much more smoothly than I expected.
> VoiceOver seems more responsive.
> So far, all is working well with one little exception.
> I do not care for the sound of Samantha, either default or enhanced on my 5s.
> She sounds more muffled than usual.
> Where as, the Siri Male US voice seems better and more responsive than it was 
> before.
> I can confirm that we now can indeed leave reviews in the app store.
> So far, I've not found any real problems.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
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Re: Apps for Apple products?

[Kevin Chao]

Swift and ObjectiveC in xCode

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:06 AM Ann Marie Medlar  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Any of you develop or write apps for IOS or Apple products?
>
> If so I am curious what computer language do you use to code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ann
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Setting the tone that rings when the timer goes off

[Mary Otten]

I would like to know how I can change the tone that goes off when a timer which 
I have used Siri to send goes off. I am supposed to be in charge of a 
meditation group tomorrow. And I need to be able to set a timer on my phone and 
it should go off in 30 minutes. That's easy. But the tone that announces the 
timer going off is not good. How can I change it? I have looked in settings and 
found nothing useful.
Mary

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Re: iphone se

[Kevin Chao]

>
> Lack of discoverability is that there is no hint/tip of where 3D touch can
> be used or what it will do. It requires randomly 3D touching apps/elements,
> experimenting, and building a metal model/pattern of how it can be used.
> It’s missing “just works” and HCI factor, but it does work well once these
> are overcome.
>
> I like using 3D touch with Workflow, Snapseed, Google+, Google Search, etc.
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Re: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which would be a game changer

[Mary Otten]

Hi Sieghard,
You know, I have seen this in other places, where when you type something, you 
can't go back and edited with voiceover. It has been irritating, and I have 
deleted things rather than send them. It seems to me it's either sometimes and 
Facebook or sometimes in Twitterrific, but I can't remember which right now. 
The next time it happens I'm going to make a note of it. In other words, I'm 
wondering if it is a broader issue perhaps a voiceover issue.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and others,
>  
> In connection with the discussion of the bug in the native mail app when 
> replying to a thread, lend your voice to those of us who write to Microsoft 
> asking them to fix an issue in Outlook which doesn’t allow Voiceover users to 
> review/edit what they have written in the email body. If this were fixed, 
> Outlook would be an excellent alternative to the native mail app and in my 
> opinion it gives any other mail app whether accessible or not a run for its 
> money.
>  
> The problem is that if you write text in the message body field, Voiceover 
> will read the entire text, but it only clicks when you try to navigate by 
> characters, words or lines. As far as I can tell this is pretty much the only 
> problem with Outlook, otherwise it is a very excellent mail app with way more 
> features than the native mail app and it gets excellent reviews. Here is what 
> it says in the app description:
>  
> “The best email app for the iPhone.” - The Verge
>  
> Meet Outlook for iOS, the app that helps millions of users connect all their 
> email accounts, calendars and files in one convenient spot. Newly redesigned, 
> Outlook for iOS lets you do more from one powerful inbox.
>  
> See what matters most first with the Focused inbox that keeps the important 
> messages on top. Switch between your emails and calendar to schedule your 
> next meeting or share your availability with just a few taps. Or grab a 
> document from your Files list and attach it to an email seamlessly.
>  
> With everything you need only a tap away, managing your busy days is now 
> easier than ever.
>  
> Outlook for iOS works with Microsoft Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com 
> (including Hotmail and MSN), Gmail, Yahoo Mail, and iCloud.
> Outlook also connects to OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, Google Drive & Box so you 
> can attach any file to an email without having to download it first to your 
> mobile device.
> You can now protect your inbox with Touch ID and get the privacy you deserve. 
> Keep your messages away from prying eyes by requiring your fingerprint or 
> device passcode in order to access your Outlook account. To enable Touch ID, 
> take a look at the app Settings under Preferences. (iOS 9 users) Your inbox – 
> and dare we say it, the world – is now at your fingertips.
>  
> Anybody who wants to contact Microsoft and ask to have the bug fixed which 
> prevents Voiceover users from reviewing/editing text in the email body 
> character by character, word by word, line by line or by using cut, copy and 
> paste, please install the Outlook app, add a mail account and then go to 
> Settings (the bottom right tab), then tap on the first button at the top of 
> the screen called “Help and Support”. Use the “Suggest a Feature” option 
> instead of “Contact Support”. The reason for this becomes clear in the below 
> thread. I had sent in a message using contact support and received a reply in 
> about 13 minutes (impressive). This by the way is all fully accessible. Here 
> is my message and the reply:
>  
> Sieghard, 12-Mar-2016 04:38
> I am a blind user of an iPhone and I have previously sent in this feedback. I 
> am really wondering when your development team is going to take the time to 
> make the outlook app usable for Voiceover users. Microsoft has shown great 
> commitment to excess ability with many other apps, and while the outlook app 
> is fully accessible for reading emails it is impossible to compose emails. At 
> this point it is not possible to type some text and then review or change it 
> because Voiceover does not read back any text that has been written in the 
> message body. This is effectively a deal-breaker. I would be happy to discuss 
> further if my assistance would be of help, but the issue is really easy to 
> reproduce if voiceover is turned on and you write some text in the email 
> message body and then try to review it either by character or word. It is 
> great to see all these new features are getting at it, but it is very 
> frustrating that as a blind user I am not able to use the app. This feedback 
> has also been submitted by other blind iPhone users who would love to use the 
> Outlook mail app and I really hope this can be fixed soon.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> Joyce - T1 Support, 12-Mar-2016 04:51
>  
> Hi, Sieghard
>  
> I honestly can't give you an ETA for this, but please rest ass

Re: iphone se

[Christopher Chaltain]

This isn't necessarily the case. If you do a two finger swipe up to 
start reading from the top of the screen and then you start flicking 
right, you could double tap anywhere on the screen when you hear the 
object you want to activate but you'd have no idea where on the screen 
that object is.


On 23/03/16 08:45, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hmm, but in order to double tap anywhere to open an app you have to
first touch the app and when you touch the app you already have your
finger in the right place to press and invoke the 3D touch menu.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Ronald van Rhijn
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:45 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iphone se

I never use 3D Touch. Of course its all new and we need to get used to
it. My biggest problem with it in terms of time saving is concerned is
you have to put your finger on the exact location of the app you want to
perform the 3D action on. Personnally I swipe alot to get to the desired
app and then double tapping somewhere on the screen to open. So by the
time I find the exact location of some apps, I already opened it with
swiping and double tapping anywhere on the screen.

No doubt more and better usage of 3D Touch will come.

Ronald

Op 23 mrt. 2016, om 08:32 heeft Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Kevin,

It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you
mean by “it’s not discoverable”, but I find it easy to check if 3D
Touch options are available and have gotten quite comfortable using
it in certain situations. For example, using it with the App Store
app if I want to search for an app. Instead of double tapping on the
app, then double tapping on the search tab at the bottom and then
finding the search edit field at the top left and double tapping on
it to put focus in it and bring up the keyboard, I just press down
on the App Store icon on the home screen, do a quick swipe right
(that puts me on the “Search” option in the menu, then I do a quick
double tap and bingo, focus is already in the search box with the
keyboard on the screen waiting for me to type my search term.

Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my
office or my manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone
app, swipe a couple of times and double tap on one of the 3 names
that are part of the context menu (they are the first 3 in your
Favorites list). Another app with useful functions in the context
menu is the Camera app.

These are just a few examples, I’m sure in time Apple will figure
out more ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or
not probably depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle
memory and we have to keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people
has many more applications which we as blind users may not be able
to use.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf
Of*Kevin Chao
*Sent:*Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:*Re: iphone se

3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no
hint of where it can be used or where it works.

it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just
interacting with it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends
up being faster.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well
below £100 as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
Talks on even now. I still have some.

The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH
got one of those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it
oldish
stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: iphone se


Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out
in no time. But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice
upgrade as a free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently
advertised a used 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was
asking 300
Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone
SE. I also still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
probably should have done so before this came out.





Regards,

Sie

Re: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which would be a game changer

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'd be very surprised if a single engineer could knock this out by 
themselves in just a few hours. First, this could be touching on some 
pretty sensitive code at the core of editing information in the Outlook 
app. Even if it isn't, the engineer tasked with fixing this bug would 
have to follow the software engineering processes used by Microsoft to 
support the Outlook app. this could involve some code reviews and would 
definitely involve some regression testing. This fix would then have to 
get queued up for a release and it's associated testing and then it 
might need to be documented in some release notes or other documentation.


I would never try to tell a doctor, plumber, mechanic, lawyer or any 
other professional how easy their job is and that they should be able to 
knock some task out in a few hours. In fact, I don't even tell other 
software engineers that. Obviously, I know if my own engineers are 
sandbagging me, but that's because I know the system they're supporting 
and the software engineering processes we're following.


On 23/03/16 09:27, Kevin Chao wrote:

This should only take one engineer no more than a couple of hours to fix.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 6:59 AM 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Sieghard,

Does this mean that you can actually set up a GMAIL account to work
with Outlook.com software then? (Sorry, I'm not quite clear from
your response here ...)

In addition, does the Outlook app allow you to delete threads and/or
a group of messages easily?

What else do you particularly like over the native email app?

Carol P



On 23/03/2016 13:13, Richard Turner wrote:


Well, I tried.
After writing a lengthy note using MBraille in the suggest a
feature section of the Outlook app, it couldn't post my message.
I also tried to reply to this message from the Outlook app, but
I'm not seeing the reply.
I discovered that you can edit your emails if you use MBraille
when composing.
The head of Microsoft Accessibility recently met with my staff at
work, so I will write him directly and encourage my staff to as well.
This is really stupid that we can't use the app without leaving
all our typos.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
<siegh...@live.ca
> wrote:


Hi Mary and others,

__ __

In connection with the discussion of the bug in the native mail
app when replying to a thread, lend your voice to those of us who
write to Microsoft asking them to fix an issue in Outlook which
doesn’t allow Voiceover users to review/edit what they have
written in the email body. If this were fixed, Outlook would be
an excellent alternative to the native mail app and in my opinion
it gives any other mail app whether accessible or not a run for
its money.

__ __

The problem is that if you write text in the message body field,
Voiceover will read the entire text, but it only clicks when you
try to navigate by characters, words or lines. As far as I can
tell this is pretty much the only problem with Outlook, otherwise
it is a very excellent mail app with way more features than the
native mail app and it gets excellent reviews. Here is what it
says in the app description:

__ __

“The best email app for the iPhone.” - The Verge

__ __

Meet Outlook for iOS, the app that helps millions of users
connect all their email accounts, calendars and files in one
convenient spot. Newly redesigned, Outlook for iOS lets you do
more from one powerful inbox.

__ __

See what matters most first with the Focused inbox that keeps the
important messages on top. Switch between your emails and
calendar to schedule your next meeting or share your availability
with just a few taps. Or grab a document from your Files list and
attach it to an email seamlessly.

__ __

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RE: Still can't Log in to Audible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kathy,

Have you attempted to login to the Audible website, directly, from a web 
browser?  If so, were you allowed access?

Just curious.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Still can't Log in to Audible

I spoke with another tech support person at Audible today. I could hear 
voiceOver on the iPhone she was using.  While she could not reproduce my 
problem, she was not dismissive toward me.  We went through the drill of 
uninstalling the app, powering off the phone and rebooting it, and 
re-installing the app, despite having already done those things last week when 
I spoke with the first tech support rep.  I still can't log in. Once I have 
entered my email address, when I attempt to open the password field, I hear a 
sort of wup-wup noise. The keyboard disappears. 
I see "forgot password?" and "Need Help?" and I don't remember if there's 
anything else.  Somehow, the rep had me get to a place where I could send a bug 
report that apparently gives them some specifics about my phone.  I would like 
to get back to that home screen to try Sieghard's suggestion about logging out, 
but I don't remember how the rep got me to that if I couldn't log in.  I'm 
about ready to remove the app from my phone permanently.

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Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

[Christopher Chaltain]

OK, try this page then: https://support.apple.com/en-sg/HT201263

Like I said, I know I've had to do it myself before, and I think 
instructions like these were what I ended up following.


On 23/03/16 20:35, Cris Ali wrote:

Hi Chris,
What I am trying to find is actually the way for a forced recovery mode.  The 
link you gave me has instruction for a normal restore.  It did not work.  It 
simply said it could not verify my iPad.  I remember that Jonathan and few 
others put some instructions to do forced recovery, or perhaps they called it 
something else, although it allowed for the recovery of the device when it 
stops responding.
Regards,
Cris

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Subject: Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

If you have iTunes on your PC or Mac, you can follow the instructions at 
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/wipe-ipad-factory-settings-passcode-55572.html
to recover your iPad. I've had to do this several times when I've had failed 
installs on my iPhone.

On 23/03/16 06:51, Cris Ali wrote:

Hello folks,

The subject says it all.  I have a failed upgrade of an iPad two.  I
am now in a vicious circle.  When I start the iPad I get a message
telling me that I have few more steps to complete the upgrade. When I
tap on continue it asks me to wait then I get the message that the
attempts failed.  I did a hard reset by pressing the power together
with the home key for ten seconds to no avail.  I need to know the
sequence of having a forced restore to come out of this vicious circle.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Cris

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Re: 9.3 so far

[Chris Chaffin]

I am in portrait view, and here is what I do:

To go to the next app, I place four of my fingers on the left side of the 
screen, with a little space between each finger.  And yes, it is ok to place 
your fingers directly on the screen.
I then  just drag my fingers to the right across the screen.

Now it will not cycle around, so when you get to the last app going left to 
right, you then must go right to left to go back.  So the gesture goes both 
ways.
The only app I have trouble with is MBraille, but all other ones work fine for 
me.

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:03 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can't accomplish this four-finger swipe. I'm presuming you do it in the app 
> you're currently working in and that it's a case of getting used to the 
> swipe. If you're working in portrait, I find it hard to get a good swipe 
> without touching first.
> 
> Any comments that might help, please?
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
>> On 22/03/2016 14:54, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> All,
>> My update went fine, other than lasting for about an hour. Teach me to
>> update when everyone else is doing the same thing. Anyway, VoiceOver
>> seems snappier when going back to the home screen and in general. It
>> is keeping my place when I return to the home screen better than in
>> prior versions. Before I might land where I left off at or somewhere
>> totally different. The slow Alex voice was a surprise but that was
>> easy to fix. My only major issue has ben that I lost all of my music
>> from Apple Music and/or iTunes Match, which I have written about in
>> another message. This would effect those subscribed to both of these
>> services. Other than that, the update was smooth and has been good so
>> far. I like the 4 finger swipe to switch between apps. It seems odd
>> right now but over time it will get easier. Does anyone know where I
>> can read about improvements in managing one's music? I had read that
>> this would be made much easier in 9.3.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 3/22/16, deidre muccio  wrote:
>>> Richard
>>> Do I understand that you are saying that the voice over female voice has
>>> changed? I'm particularly sensitive to readers/voices so muffled sure does
>>> not sound good to me.
>>>Deidre
>>>-Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: 9.3 so far
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> Well, the 9.3 update went much more smoothly than I expected.
>>> VoiceOver seems more responsive.
>>> So far, all is working well with one little exception.
>>> I do not care for the sound of Samantha, either default or enhanced on my
>>> 5s.
>>> She sounds more muffled than usual.
>>> Where as, the Siri Male US voice seems better and more responsive than it
>>> was before.
>>> I can confirm that we now can indeed leave reviews in the app store.
>>> So far, I've not found any real problems.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
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RE: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

[Cris Ali]

Hi Chris,
What I am trying to find is actually the way for a forced recovery mode.  The 
link you gave me has instruction for a normal restore.  It did not work.  It 
simply said it could not verify my iPad.  I remember that Jonathan and few 
others put some instructions to do forced recovery, or perhaps they called it 
something else, although it allowed for the recovery of the device when it 
stops responding.
Regards,
Cris

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Subject: Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

If you have iTunes on your PC or Mac, you can follow the instructions at 
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/wipe-ipad-factory-settings-passcode-55572.html
to recover your iPad. I've had to do this several times when I've had failed 
installs on my iPhone.

On 23/03/16 06:51, Cris Ali wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> The subject says it all.  I have a failed upgrade of an iPad two.  I 
> am now in a vicious circle.  When I start the iPad I get a message 
> telling me that I have few more steps to complete the upgrade. When I 
> tap on continue it asks me to wait then I get the message that the 
> attempts failed.  I did a hard reset by pressing the power together 
> with the home key for ten seconds to no avail.  I need to know the 
> sequence of having a forced restore to come out of this vicious circle.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cris
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Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Joney]

Tim Cook talked about it on the presentation and showed it as an update for all.

Joney
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He will  lead you through it."

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> The Applevis podcast stated that the four finger swipe is not a voiceover 
> only gesture but also for sighted users.
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Daniel Miller
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mega discovery in 9.3
>  
> Hi. I can confirm that this is not available to people who do not use 
> voiceover. So yes, people who use voiceover have access to a feature that 
> mainstream users don't.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this is also 
>> available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that anywhere on the 
>> internet. I know lots of people who would love this feature on their iPhone 
>> who does not use voice over. I’d be surprised to know that voice Over users 
>> have a new cool feature that the mainstream does not have.
>>  
>> Christina
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>  
>>> It is new and 9.3.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
  wrote:
 
 Dear listers
  
 You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS 
 forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or 
 right with four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has 
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Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Marie]

The Applevis podcast stated that the four finger swipe is not a voiceover only 
gesture but also for sighted users.
Marie


From: Daniel Miller 
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

Hi. I can confirm that this is not available to people who do not use 
voiceover. So yes, people who use voiceover have access to a feature that 
mainstream users don't.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Christina C.  wrote:


  I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this is also 
available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that anywhere on the internet. 
I know lots of people who would love this feature on their iPhone who does not 
use voice over. I’d be surprised to know that voice Over users have a new cool 
feature that the mainstream does not have. 

  Christina

On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

It is new and 9.3.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:


  Dear listers

  You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS 
forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or right 
with four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has worked on an 
iPad Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on the phone. Enjoy!

  Thanks, Robin

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Developing IOS or TV OS apps with Swift

[Ryan Mann]

Hello.  I have started looking at the Swift programming language because I 
think I might want to develop apps for IOS or TV OS.  The language seems a lot 
like C++ which is a good thing because I'm familiar with that language.  With 
this language, can I write the GUI by code or would I have to use the Xcode 
interface to do this part?  If I have to use the Xcode interface, is it hard to 
do using VoiceOver?


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RE: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Cristóbal]

This Voiceover jesture has actually been  around for a while. There’s still the 
bug where when copying text that’s a link, VO will also copy the word link. 
Easy enough to delete once pasted, but still. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

 

I think we have another feature, of using the three finger quadruple tap when 
capturing text. On some pages there's just no other way to get what you want ...

In case anyone hasn't discovered this, it's useful, for example, when you have 
to enter a code. Once you hear just the code you want, you can then do this 
gesture and copy it into pasteboard (which I assume is the same as the 
clipboard) and paste it where required.

Perhaps I am wrong and sighted people can do this, but perhaps not so easily as 
we can.

No doubt, someone will enlighten me!


Carol P

On 23/03/2016 21:51, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi. I can confirm that this is not available to people who do not use 
voiceover. So yes, people who use voiceover have access to a feature that 
mainstream users don't.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Christina C.  wrote:

I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this is also 
available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that anywhere on the internet. 
I know lots of people who would love this feature on their iPhone who does not 
use voice over. I’d be surprised to know that voice Over users have a new cool 
feature that the mainstream does not have. 

 

Christina

On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 

It is new and 9.3.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:

Dear listers

 

You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS forever 
but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or right with 
four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has worked on an iPad 
Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on the phone. Enjoy!

 

Thanks, Robin

 

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Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Richard Turner]

That method of copying text has been around for a while. I don't remember off 
hand when it came in, but it is not new in 9.3.
The text selection on the rotor is new in the iOS 9 cycle, which when available 
is also quite handy.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:09 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think we have another feature, of using the three finger quadruple tap when 
> capturing text. On some pages there's just no other way to get what you want 
> ...
> 
> In case anyone hasn't discovered this, it's useful, for example, when you 
> have to enter a code. Once you hear just the code you want, you can then do 
> this gesture and copy it into pasteboard (which I assume is the same as the 
> clipboard) and paste it where required.
> 
> Perhaps I am wrong and sighted people can do this, but perhaps not so easily 
> as we can.
> 
> No doubt, someone will enlighten me!
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
>> On 23/03/2016 21:51, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> Hi. I can confirm that this is not available to people who do not use 
>> voiceover. So yes, people who use voiceover have access to a feature that 
>> mainstream users don't.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this is also 
>>> available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that anywhere on the 
>>> internet. I know lots of people who would love this feature on their iPhone 
>>> who does not use voice over. I’d be surprised to know that voice Over users 
>>> have a new cool feature that the mainstream does not have.
>>> 
>>> Christina
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 It is new and 9.3.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
  wrote:
 
> Dear listers
>  
> You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS 
> forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or 
> right with four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has 
> worked on an iPad Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on 
> the phone. Enjoy!
>  
> Thanks, Robin
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Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

I think we have another feature, of using the three finger quadruple tap 
when capturing text. On some pages there's just no other way to get what 
you want ...


In case anyone hasn't discovered this, it's useful, for example, when 
you have to enter a code. Once you hear just the code you want, you can 
then do this gesture and copy it into pasteboard (which I assume is the 
same as the clipboard) and paste it where required.


Perhaps I am wrong and sighted people can do this, but perhaps not so 
easily as we can.


No doubt, someone will enlighten me!


Carol P

On 23/03/2016 21:51, Daniel Miller wrote:
Hi. I can confirm that this is not available to people who do not use 
voiceover. So yes, people who use voiceover have access to a feature 
that mainstream users don't.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Christina C. > wrote:


I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this 
is also available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that anywhere 
on the internet. I know lots of people who would love this feature on 
their iPhone who does not use voice over. I’d be surprised to know 
that voice Over users have a new cool feature that the mainstream 
does not have.


Christina
On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten > wrote:


It is new and 9.3.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
> wrote:



Dear listers
You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in 
iOS forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, 
swiping left or right with four fingers switches between running 
apps. I know this has worked on an iPad Air 2 for a while but 
wasn’t aware it was available on the phone. Enjoy!

Thanks, Robin

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Hello list,

I was wondering if pocket mud works with voice over?

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Advise: Ipad Pro

[Joanne Chua]

Hi all,

I'm recently in need for an ipad pro for mobile one-to-one or a small
group presentations.

I'm looking on the ipad pro 9.7 and the ipad pro 12.9.

For the screen wise, I do prefer the 12.9" screen, however, I do like
the specification for the ipad pro 9.7".

For those that have both ipad air and ipad pro, what do you find it
advantages and disadvantages between one and another? Is ipad pro 12.9
too bulky for traveling and mobile base presentation?

At the moment, I do have an imac that is my desktop, and a 15.6"
window laptop as mobile computing devise.

I look forward for comments and suggestion.

PS: will be interested on either the 128gb or the 256gb model.

Thanks very much

Regards
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Re: iphone se

[Mary Otten]

The rear camera is the same as the iPhone 6s as 12 megapixels and the front is 
1.2 with some kind of flash that is supposed to make it better. The 6S has a 
five megapixel. So if you take tons of selfie's, I guess maybe you care. I 
certainly don't.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> How many mega pixels are the cameras???
> At 05:11 PM 3/23/2016, you wrote:
>> No.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Rajmund
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Is 3D touch available on the 5S? If so, how do we use it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:32 am
>> Subject: RE: iphone se
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> 
>>> It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean 
>>> by "it's not discoverable", but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch options 
>>> are available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in certain 
>>> situations. For example, using it with the App Store app if I want to 
>>> search for an app. Instead of double tapping on the app, then double 
>>> tapping on the search tab at the bottom and then finding the search edit 
>>> field at the top left and double tapping on it to put focus in it and bring 
>>> up the keyboard, I just press down on the App Store icon on the home 
>>> screen, do a quick swipe right (that puts me on the "Search" option in the 
>>> menu, then I do a quick double tap and bingo, focus is already in the 
>>> search box with the keyboard on the screen waiting for me to type my search 
>>> term.
>>> Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or 
>>> my manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a 
>>> couple of times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the 
>>> context menu (they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app 
>>> with useful functions in the context menu is the Camera app.
>>> 
>>> These are just a few examples, I'm sure in time Apple will figure out more 
>>> ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably 
>>> depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to 
>>> keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications 
>>> which we as blind users may not be able to use.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Kevin Chao
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>>> 
>>> 3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of 
>>> where it can be used or where it works.
>>> it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting 
>>> with it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below 
>>> £100 as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
>>> Talks on even now. I still have some.
>>> 
>>> The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of 
>>> those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish
>>> stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.
>>> 
>>> BobH.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
>>> Subject: RE: iphone se
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. 
>>> But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
>>> 4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a 
>>> free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
>>> unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a used 
>>> 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
>>> Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I also 
>>> still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
>>> probably should have done so before this came out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Ronald van Rhijn
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, I assume you don't understand Dutch, so giving you the link to the 
>>> article won't benefit you. The article was published today
>>> on a well respected Dutch Apple news site called: iCulture.nl 
>>>  . Unfortunately they don't mention any sources
>>> from which they got the detailed information. They only refer to a person 
>>> who made the list, or something. the link to this person
>>> is to Twitter.
>>> 
>>> Another feature the SE misses 

RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

[Cristóbal]

I turned off the caller ID and voice activation as I found  those features to 
either be distracting or too flakey  to rely on. The caller ID thing I felt was 
unnecessary since voiceover already  announced whose  calling. Personal 
preference though  I guess.
The mute button is super handy. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

You don't need it but it has some fun features such as the find my Edge. It 
also will give you a more accurate count as to how much time is remaining on 
your charge although I charge it on a regular schedule anyway. It pairs really 
easy so setup is a snap. The hub does have a feature that will tell you what 
each button does although just pushing each button will do the same thing.
I routinely pair mine with my iPhone 6S+, my I.D. Mate Quest barcode reader, 
and two laptops. Not at the same time but I'm just saying it pairs with a 
number of different devices  around the house.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 4:56 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

I've got my Edge ordered. Any advice on initial setup? Do I need the 
Plantronics Hub app? Thanks in advance, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

If you are wearing the ear piece it is the one big button that is facing out 
away from your head. If you press it long enough and you are not on a call it 
will say pairing.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

When you refer to  the large button at the end of the ear piece, are you  
talking about  the two buttons on the fat part of the device or the one button  
on the stem of the  earpiece?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

Hi,
When sound switches from the Edge to your phone  if you press the large button 
on the end of the ear piece and hold it for a second you will hear a beep and 
the sound will pop back in to the Edge. For me this started occurring with IOS 
9.1 and I can usually route it back to the edge without touching the phone.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

I have had the Edge for about 6 months and basically I like it. I use the loop 
and the ear hook, though since it does not feel really secure without them. If 
it falls out while you are away from home that is $95 down the 
drain and I am not willing to take that chance.   To set the Edge in the 
portable charger case you need to twist the loop so it is at the top and remove 
the hook. For this reason, I rarely use that charger. I just use a regular 
micro USB standard charger cord.
I do have a lot of trouble with the 6S not keeping all sound routed through the 
headset. Sometimes when I tap it to answer a call the call goes to the phone 
that is in my pocket and I have to dig it out. Siri and some VO functions 
switch back and forth from the phone speaker to the Edge with no rhyme or 
reason. I have the routing set to automatic.  It did not switch the sound back 
and forth between the earpiece and the phone for no reason on my old iPhone 5 
running 8.something. I often click the Edge off when using dictation since it 
works much better talking into the phone.
So I like it, but it worked much better on my old phone.
Any advice welcome.
Sherrie


-Original Message-
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

There is a loop that you can use that will hold it in your ear but then it will 
not fit properly into the charging case. I don't know how it just stays in my 
ear and honestly it took some getting accustomed to the fear of it not just 
falling out while in the store. It is like an ear bud with a little black 
cyl

Re: iphone se

[Ann Byrne]

How many mega pixels are the cameras???
At 05:11 PM 3/23/2016, you wrote:

No.

-Original Message- From: Rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se

Hello,
Is 3D touch available on the 5S? If so, how do we use it?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:32 am
Subject: RE: iphone se




Hi Kevin,

It is new and something to learn/get used to. I 
am not sure what you mean by "it's not 
discoverable", but I find it easy to check if 
3D Touch options are available and have gotten 
quite comfortable using it in certain 
situations. For example, using it with the App 
Store app if I want to search for an app. 
Instead of double tapping on the app, then 
double tapping on the search tab at the bottom 
and then finding the search edit field at the 
top left and double tapping on it to put focus 
in it and bring up the keyboard, I just press 
down on the App Store icon on the home screen, 
do a quick swipe right (that puts me on the 
"Search" option in the menu, then I do a quick 
double tap and bingo, focus is already in the 
search box with the keyboard on the screen 
waiting for me to type my search term.
Another example is the Phone app. If I want to 
call my wife, my office or my manager on his 
mobile, I just press down on the phone app, 
swipe a couple of times and double tap on one 
of the 3 names that are part of the context 
menu (they are the first 3 in your Favorites 
list). Another app with useful functions in the context menu is the Camera app.


These are just a few examples, I'm sure in time 
Apple will figure out more ways to make this 
useful and as far as it being natural or not 
probably depends on you. Eventually everything 
becomes muscle memory and we have to keep in 
mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many 
more applications which we as blind users may not be able to use.



Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se

3D touch isn't that useful. It's not 
discoverable and there is no hint of where it can be used or where it works.
it's not really natural, and most of the time: 
i end up just interacting with it as if 3D 
touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via 
VIPhone  wrote:
The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade 
lists. 4S are well below £100 as a starter 
phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with

Talks on even now. I still have some.

The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 
2nd hand.  mrsH got one of those for under 
£300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish

stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: iphone se


Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the 
hidden secrets out in no time. But there are 
still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
4 out there and for these customers this will 
be a very nice upgrade as a free phone on 
contract or for what I consider not an
unreasonable price unlocked. I remember 
somebody recently advertised a used 5S on the 
list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
Pounds, probably not too realistic given the 
price of the iPhone SE. I also still have my 5S 
64 Gb which I was planning to sell,

probably should have done so before this came out.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ronald van Rhijn

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se



Well, I assume you don't understand Dutch, so 
giving you the link to the article won't 
benefit you. The article was published today
on a well respected Dutch Apple news site 
called: iCulture.nl  . 
Unfortunately they don't mention any sources
from which they got the detailed information. 
They only refer to a person who made the list, 
or something. the link to this person

is to Twitter.

Another feature the SE misses is the barometric 
sensor (dont know the exact English translation), which measures differences in

height and vertical movements like on stairs.



Dont believe my word for it, time will tell right.



Ronald



Op 22 mrt. 2016, om 18:58 heeft Ronald van 
Rhijn mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl> > het volgende geschreven:




Hi,

There are more differences. The SE has 1st 
generation touch id while the 6s has 2nd gen, 
and since I use the 6s's touch id daily,

the 2nd gen isn't perfect bij a long shot.

The SE's front camera is much worse than 6s, a 
1.2mp instead of a 5mp one.. The main-camera is 
also 12mp, but the SE uses a somewhat
older sensor. High-speed data transfer lacks 
some minor frequencies and last but not least 
it is probably safe to say 

Re: iphone se

[Dave]

No.

-Original Message- 
From: Rajmund

Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se

Hello,
Is 3D touch available on the 5S? If so, how do we use it?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:32 am
Subject: RE: iphone se




Hi Kevin,

It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean 
by "it's not discoverable", but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch 
options are available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in 
certain situations. For example, using it with the App Store app if I want 
to search for an app. Instead of double tapping on the app, then double 
tapping on the search tab at the bottom and then finding the search edit 
field at the top left and double tapping on it to put focus in it and 
bring up the keyboard, I just press down on the App Store icon on the home 
screen, do a quick swipe right (that puts me on the "Search" option in the 
menu, then I do a quick double tap and bingo, focus is already in the 
search box with the keyboard on the screen waiting for me to type my 
search term.
Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or 
my manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a 
couple of times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the 
context menu (they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app 
with useful functions in the context menu is the Camera app.


These are just a few examples, I'm sure in time Apple will figure out more 
ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably 
depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to 
keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications 
which we as blind users may not be able to use.



Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Chao

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se

3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of 
where it can be used or where it works.
it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting 
with it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below 
£100 as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with

Talks on even now. I still have some.

The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of 
those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish

stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: iphone se


Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. 
But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a 
free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a 
used 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I 
also still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,

probably should have done so before this came out.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Ronald van Rhijn

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se



Well, I assume you don't understand Dutch, so giving you the link to the 
article won't benefit you. The article was published today
on a well respected Dutch Apple news site called: iCulture.nl 
 . Unfortunately they don't mention any sources
from which they got the detailed information. They only refer to a person 
who made the list, or something. the link to this person

is to Twitter.

Another feature the SE misses is the barometric sensor (dont know the 
exact English translation), which measures differences in

height and vertical movements like on stairs.



Dont believe my word for it, time will tell right.



Ronald



Op 22 mrt. 2016, om 18:58 heeft Ronald van Rhijn  > het volgende geschreven:




Hi,

There are more differences. The SE has 1st generation touch id while the 
6s has 2nd gen, and since I use the 6s's touch id daily,

the 2nd gen isn't perfect bij a long shot.

The SE's front camera is much worse than 6s, a 1.2mp instead of a 5mp 
one.. The main-camera is also 12mp, but the SE uses a somewhat
older sensor. High-speed data transfer lacks some minor frequencies and 
last but not least it is probably safe to say the SE runs at
a lower cpu clock speed than the 6s to maintain good battery usage, since 
the batte

Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Daniel Miller]

Hi. I can confirm that this is not available to people who do not use 
voiceover. So yes, people who use voiceover have access to a feature that 
mainstream users don't.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this is also 
> available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that anywhere on the 
> internet. I know lots of people who would love this feature on their iPhone 
> who does not use voice over. I’d be surprised to know that voice Over users 
> have a new cool feature that the mainstream does not have.
> 
> Christina
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> It is new and 9.3.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear listers
>>>  
>>> You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS 
>>> forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or 
>>> right with four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has 
>>> worked on an iPad Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on 
>>> the phone. Enjoy!
>>>  
>>> Thanks, Robin
>>> 
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RE: iphone se

[rajmund]

Hello,
Thanks for this, I won't go and lok for it.
But, a question, which, I have heard roomers about.  Is it true, 
that if you're on a contract, you can replace the 5s for the 5SE 
for free? Or is it just some roomers? People say can upgrade for 
free, so wondering.  If it depends on carriers, I'll google my 
carrier.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel No, 3D Touch requires a special touch screen and at this point 
only the 6S and 6S Plus have it.  Of course the new phones that 
come out this fall will also have it, but the 5S and even the 
newly released iPhone SE do not have it.


From: brajmund2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:18:57 +

Hello,
Is 3D touch available on the 5S? If so, how do we use it?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  It is new and something to learn/get used to.  I am not sure 
what you mean by "it's not discoverable", but I find it easy to 
check if 3D Touch options are available and have gotten quite 
comfortable using it in certain situations.  For example, using 
it with the App Store app if I want to search for an app.  
Instead of double tapping on the app, then double tapping on the 
search tab at the bottom and then finding the search edit field 
at the top left and double tapping on it to put focus in it and 
bring up the keyboard, I just press down on the App Store icon on 
the home screen, do a quick swipe right (that puts me on the 
"Search" option in the menu, then I do a quick double tap and 
bingo, focus is already in the search box with the keyboard on 
the screen waiting for me to type my search term.
Another example is the Phone app.  If I want to call my wife, my 
office or my manager on his mobile, I just press down on the 
phone app, swipe a couple of times and double tap on one of the 3 
names that are part of the context menu (they are the first 3 in 
your Favorites list).  Another app with useful functions in the 
context menu is the Camera app.


These are just a few examples, I'm sure in time Apple will 
figure out more ways to make this useful and as far as it being 
natural or not probably depends on you.  Eventually everything 
becomes muscle memory and we have to keep in mind that 3D Touch 
for sighted people has many more applications which we as blind 
users may not be able to use.



Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Chao

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se

3D touch isn't that useful.  It's not discoverable and there is 
no hint of where it can be used or where it works.
it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just 
interacting with it as if 3D touch were not even present...It 
ends up being faster.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists.  4S are 
well below £100 as a starter phone.  Folks still sell old Nokias 
with

Talks on even now.  I still have some.

The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH 
got one of those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it 
oldish

stock.  Buti ntact with warrantee.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out 
in no time.  But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S 
and
4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice 
upgrade as a free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
unreasonable price unlocked.  I remember somebody recently 
advertised a used 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was 
asking 300
Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone 
SE.  I also still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,

probably should have done so before this came out.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ronald van Rhijn

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se



Well, I assume you don't understand Dutch, so giving you the 
link to the article won't benefit you.  The article was published 
today
on a well respected Dutch Apple news site called: iCulture.nl 
 .  Unfortunately they don't mention any 
sources
from which they got the detailed information.  They only refer 
to a person who made the list, or something.  the link to this 
person

is to Twitter.

Another feature the SE misses is the barometric sensor (dont 
know the exact English translation), which measures differences 
in

height and vertical movements like on stairs.



Dont believe my word for it, time will tell right.



Ronald



Op 22 mrt.  2016, om 18:58 heeft Ronald van Rhijn 
mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl> > het volgende 
geschreven:




Hi,

There are more differences.  The SE has 1st generation tou

Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Kathy Brandt]

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> It is new and 9.3.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear listers
>>  
>> You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS 
>> forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or 
>> right with four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has 
>> worked on an iPad Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on the 
>> phone. Enjoy!
>>  
>> Thanks, Robin
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> messages and FaceTime. Is there a place on the screen where you have to do 
> this from? Thanks.

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Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Christina C.]

I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this is also 
available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that anywhere on the internet. 
I know lots of people who would love this feature on their iPhone who does not 
use voice over. I’d be surprised to know that voice Over users have a new cool 
feature that the mainstream does not have.

Christina
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> It is new and 9.3.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
> mailto:robin.christopher...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear listers
>>  
>> You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS 
>> forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or 
>> right with four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has 
>> worked on an iPad Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on the 
>> phone. Enjoy!
>>  
>> Thanks, Robin
>> 
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Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Mary Otten]

It is new and 9.3.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear listers
>  
> You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS 
> forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or 
> right with four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has worked 
> on an iPad Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on the phone. 
> Enjoy!
>  
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RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

[Merv Keck]

You don't need it but it has some fun features such as the find my Edge. It 
also will give you a more accurate count as to how much time is remaining on 
your charge although I charge it on a regular schedule anyway. It pairs really 
easy so setup is a snap. The hub does have a feature that will tell you what 
each button does although just pushing each button will do the same thing.
I routinely pair mine with my iPhone 6S+, my I.D. Mate Quest barcode reader, 
and two laptops. Not at the same time but I'm just saying it pairs with a 
number of different devices  around the house.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 4:56 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

I've got my Edge ordered. Any advice on initial setup? Do I need the 
Plantronics Hub app? Thanks in advance, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

If you are wearing the ear piece it is the one big button that is facing out 
away from your head. If you press it long enough and you are not on a call it 
will say pairing.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

When you refer to  the large button at the end of the ear piece, are you  
talking about  the two buttons on the fat part of the device or the one button  
on the stem of the  earpiece?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

Hi,
When sound switches from the Edge to your phone  if you press the large button 
on the end of the ear piece and hold it for a second you will hear a beep and 
the sound will pop back in to the Edge. For me this started occurring with IOS 
9.1 and I can usually route it back to the edge without touching the phone.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

I have had the Edge for about 6 months and basically I like it. I use the loop 
and the ear hook, though since it does not feel really secure without them. If 
it falls out while you are away from home that is $95 down the 
drain and I am not willing to take that chance.   To set the Edge in the 
portable charger case you need to twist the loop so it is at the top and remove 
the hook. For this reason, I rarely use that charger. I just use a regular 
micro USB standard charger cord.
I do have a lot of trouble with the 6S not keeping all sound routed through the 
headset. Sometimes when I tap it to answer a call the call goes to the phone 
that is in my pocket and I have to dig it out. Siri and some VO functions 
switch back and forth from the phone speaker to the Edge with no rhyme or 
reason. I have the routing set to automatic.  It did not switch the sound back 
and forth between the earpiece and the phone for no reason on my old iPhone 5 
running 8.something. I often click the Edge off when using dictation since it 
works much better talking into the phone.
So I like it, but it worked much better on my old phone.
Any advice welcome.
Sherrie


-Original Message-
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

There is a loop that you can use that will hold it in your ear but then it will 
not fit properly into the charging case. I don't know how it just stays in my 
ear and honestly it took some getting accustomed to the fear of it not just 
falling out while in the store. It is like an ear bud with a little black 
cylinder attached to it. How it just hangs there I don't know but I have only 
ever lost it out of my ear once. It fell into my shopping cart and I heard it 
land in the cart.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

So, does the edge just sit in your ear canal like an ear bud. I’m trying to 
imagine it. What prevents it from falling o

Re: 9.3 so far

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

I can't accomplish this four-finger swipe. I'm presuming you do it in 
the app you're currently working in and that it's a case of getting used 
to the swipe. If you're working in portrait, I find it hard to get a 
good swipe without touching first.


Any comments that might help, please?

Carol P


On 22/03/2016 14:54, Wayne Merritt wrote:

All,
My update went fine, other than lasting for about an hour. Teach me to
update when everyone else is doing the same thing. Anyway, VoiceOver
seems snappier when going back to the home screen and in general. It
is keeping my place when I return to the home screen better than in
prior versions. Before I might land where I left off at or somewhere
totally different. The slow Alex voice was a surprise but that was
easy to fix. My only major issue has ben that I lost all of my music
from Apple Music and/or iTunes Match, which I have written about in
another message. This would effect those subscribed to both of these
services. Other than that, the update was smooth and has been good so
far. I like the 4 finger swipe to switch between apps. It seems odd
right now but over time it will get easier. Does anyone know where I
can read about improvements in managing one's music? I had read that
this would be made much easier in 9.3.

Wayne

On 3/22/16, deidre muccio  wrote:

Richard
Do I understand that you are saying that the voice over female voice has
changed? I'm particularly sensitive to readers/voices so muffled sure does
not sound good to me.
Deidre
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 9.3 so far

Greetings,
Well, the 9.3 update went much more smoothly than I expected.
VoiceOver seems more responsive.
So far, all is working well with one little exception.
I do not care for the sound of Samantha, either default or enhanced on my
5s.
She sounds more muffled than usual.
Where as, the Siri Male US voice seems better and more responsive than it
was before.
I can confirm that we now can indeed leave reviews in the app store.
So far, I've not found any real problems.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

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Mega discovery in 9.3

[Robin Christopherson]

Dear listers

You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS forever 
but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or right with 
four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has worked on an iPad 
Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on the phone. Enjoy!

Thanks, Robin

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RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

I've got my Edge ordered. Any advice on initial setup? Do I need the 
Plantronics Hub app? Thanks in advance, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

If you are wearing the ear piece it is the one big button that is facing out 
away from your head. If you press it long enough and you are not on a call it 
will say pairing.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

When you refer to  the large button at the end of the ear piece, are you  
talking about  the two buttons on the fat part of the device or the one button  
on the stem of the  earpiece?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

Hi,
When sound switches from the Edge to your phone  if you press the large button 
on the end of the ear piece and hold it for a second you will hear a beep and 
the sound will pop back in to the Edge. For me this started occurring with IOS 
9.1 and I can usually route it back to the edge without touching the phone.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

I have had the Edge for about 6 months and basically I like it. I use the loop 
and the ear hook, though since it does not feel really secure without them. If 
it falls out while you are away from home that is $95 down the 
drain and I am not willing to take that chance.   To set the Edge in the 
portable charger case you need to twist the loop so it is at the top and remove 
the hook. For this reason, I rarely use that charger. I just use a regular 
micro USB standard charger cord.
I do have a lot of trouble with the 6S not keeping all sound routed through the 
headset. Sometimes when I tap it to answer a call the call goes to the phone 
that is in my pocket and I have to dig it out. Siri and some VO functions 
switch back and forth from the phone speaker to the Edge with no rhyme or 
reason. I have the routing set to automatic.  It did not switch the sound back 
and forth between the earpiece and the phone for no reason on my old iPhone 5 
running 8.something. I often click the Edge off when using dictation since it 
works much better talking into the phone.
So I like it, but it worked much better on my old phone.
Any advice welcome.
Sherrie


-Original Message-
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

There is a loop that you can use that will hold it in your ear but then it will 
not fit properly into the charging case. I don't know how it just stays in my 
ear and honestly it took some getting accustomed to the fear of it not just 
falling out while in the store. It is like an ear bud with a little black 
cylinder attached to it. How it just hangs there I don't know but I have only 
ever lost it out of my ear once. It fell into my shopping cart and I heard it 
land in the cart.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

So, does the edge just sit in your ear canal like an ear bud. I’m trying to 
imagine it. What prevents it from falling out. I can’t use ear buds because 
they constantly pop out or hurt my ears.

Thanks for any details. I’d really love to find a great ear peace

Christina
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>
> I tried both and returned the legend and kept the Edge.
> The Legend felt way  bulky and a hassle to quickly put on. It  was 
> like having a small transformer plastered on the side of my face. That 
> and  the magnetic charging felt gimmicky.
> Since the  Edge reverted to the traditional charging cable, I guess I 
> wasn't the  only one who had the same impression about the magnetic 
> charging design.
> I prefer the sound  quality  on the Edge too. More a subjective 
> aspect, but to me at least, the  Legend sounded more muffled.
> Especially with distortion at higher volume levels.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@

RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

[Merv Keck]

If you are wearing the ear piece it is the one big button that is facing out 
away from your head. If you press it long enough and you are not on a call it 
will say pairing.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

When you refer to  the large button at the end of the ear piece, are you  
talking about  the two buttons on the fat part of the device or the one button  
on the stem of the  earpiece?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

Hi,
When sound switches from the Edge to your phone  if you press the large button 
on the end of the ear piece and hold it for a second you will hear a beep and 
the sound will pop back in to the Edge. For me this started occurring with IOS 
9.1 and I can usually route it back to the edge without touching the phone.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

I have had the Edge for about 6 months and basically I like it. I use the loop 
and the ear hook, though since it does not feel really secure without them. If 
it falls out while you are away from home that is $95 down the 
drain and I am not willing to take that chance.   To set the Edge in the 
portable charger case you need to twist the loop so it is at the top and remove 
the hook. For this reason, I rarely use that charger. I just use a regular 
micro USB standard charger cord.
I do have a lot of trouble with the 6S not keeping all sound routed through the 
headset. Sometimes when I tap it to answer a call the call goes to the phone 
that is in my pocket and I have to dig it out. Siri and some VO functions 
switch back and forth from the phone speaker to the Edge with no rhyme or 
reason. I have the routing set to automatic.  It did not switch the sound back 
and forth between the earpiece and the phone for no reason on my old iPhone 5 
running 8.something. I often click the Edge off when using dictation since it 
works much better talking into the phone.
So I like it, but it worked much better on my old phone.
Any advice welcome.
Sherrie


-Original Message-
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

There is a loop that you can use that will hold it in your ear but then it will 
not fit properly into the charging case. I don't know how it just stays in my 
ear and honestly it took some getting accustomed to the fear of it not just 
falling out while in the store. It is like an ear bud with a little black 
cylinder attached to it. How it just hangs there I don't know but I have only 
ever lost it out of my ear once. It fell into my shopping cart and I heard it 
land in the cart.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

So, does the edge just sit in your ear canal like an ear bud. I’m trying to 
imagine it. What prevents it from falling out. I can’t use ear buds because 
they constantly pop out or hurt my ears.

Thanks for any details. I’d really love to find a great ear peace

Christina
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>
> I tried both and returned the legend and kept the Edge.
> The Legend felt way  bulky and a hassle to quickly put on. It  was 
> like having a small transformer plastered on the side of my face. That 
> and  the magnetic charging felt gimmicky.
> Since the  Edge reverted to the traditional charging cable, I guess I 
> wasn't the  only one who had the same impression about the magnetic 
> charging design.
> I prefer the sound  quality  on the Edge too. More a subjective 
> aspect, but to me at least, the  Legend sounded more muffled.
> Especially with distortion at higher volume levels.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an 
> Edge?
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking for advice inview of my several year old Plantronics Voyager 
> Legend ending it's lifespan.
>
> Wondering if I should get a replacement Voyager Legen

RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

[Cristóbal]

When you refer to  the large button at the end of the ear piece, are you  
talking about  the two buttons on the fat part of the device or the one button  
on the stem of the  earpiece?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

Hi,
When sound switches from the Edge to your phone  if you press the large button 
on the end of the ear piece and hold it for a second you will hear a beep and 
the sound will pop back in to the Edge. For me this started occurring with IOS 
9.1 and I can usually route it back to the edge without touching the phone.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

I have had the Edge for about 6 months and basically I like it. I use the loop 
and the ear hook, though since it does not feel really secure without them. If 
it falls out while you are away from home that is $95 down the 
drain and I am not willing to take that chance.   To set the Edge in the 
portable charger case you need to twist the loop so it is at the top and remove 
the hook. For this reason, I rarely use that charger. I just use a regular 
micro USB standard charger cord.
I do have a lot of trouble with the 6S not keeping all sound routed through the 
headset. Sometimes when I tap it to answer a call the call goes to the phone 
that is in my pocket and I have to dig it out. Siri and some VO functions 
switch back and forth from the phone speaker to the Edge with no rhyme or 
reason. I have the routing set to automatic.  It did not switch the sound back 
and forth between the earpiece and the phone for no reason on my old iPhone 5 
running 8.something. I often click the Edge off when using dictation since it 
works much better talking into the phone.
So I like it, but it worked much better on my old phone.
Any advice welcome.
Sherrie


-Original Message-
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

There is a loop that you can use that will hold it in your ear but then it will 
not fit properly into the charging case. I don't know how it just stays in my 
ear and honestly it took some getting accustomed to the fear of it not just 
falling out while in the store. It is like an ear bud with a little black 
cylinder attached to it. How it just hangs there I don't know but I have only 
ever lost it out of my ear once. It fell into my shopping cart and I heard it 
land in the cart.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

So, does the edge just sit in your ear canal like an ear bud. I’m trying to 
imagine it. What prevents it from falling out. I can’t use ear buds because 
they constantly pop out or hurt my ears.

Thanks for any details. I’d really love to find a great ear peace

Christina
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>
> I tried both and returned the legend and kept the Edge.
> The Legend felt way  bulky and a hassle to quickly put on. It  was 
> like having a small transformer plastered on the side of my face. That 
> and  the magnetic charging felt gimmicky.
> Since the  Edge reverted to the traditional charging cable, I guess I 
> wasn't the  only one who had the same impression about the magnetic 
> charging design.
> I prefer the sound  quality  on the Edge too. More a subjective 
> aspect, but to me at least, the  Legend sounded more muffled. 
> Especially with distortion at higher volume levels.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an 
> Edge?
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking for advice inview of my several year old Plantronics Voyager 
> Legend ending it's lifespan.
>
> Wondering if I should get a replacement Voyager Legend or move on to a 
> Plantronics Edge. Anyone who has tried both have advice? I have 
> enjoyed the Legend.
>
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
When sound switches from the Edge to your phone  if you press the large button 
on the end of the ear piece and hold it for a second you will hear a beep and 
the sound will pop back in to the Edge. For me this started occurring with IOS 
9.1 and I can usually route it back to the edge without touching the phone.
Hope that helps.
Merv


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherrie
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

I have had the Edge for about 6 months and basically I like it. I use the loop 
and the ear hook, though since it does not feel really secure without them. If 
it falls out while you are away from home that is $95 down the 
drain and I am not willing to take that chance.   To set the Edge in the 
portable charger case you need to twist the loop so it is at the top and remove 
the hook. For this reason, I rarely use that charger. I just use a regular 
micro USB standard charger cord.
I do have a lot of trouble with the 6S not keeping all sound routed through the 
headset. Sometimes when I tap it to answer a call the call goes to the phone 
that is in my pocket and I have to dig it out. Siri and some VO functions 
switch back and forth from the phone speaker to the Edge with no rhyme or 
reason. I have the routing set to automatic.  It did not switch the sound back 
and forth between the earpiece and the phone for no reason on my old iPhone 5 
running 8.something. I often click the Edge off when using dictation since it 
works much better talking into the phone.
So I like it, but it worked much better on my old phone.
Any advice welcome.
Sherrie


-Original Message-
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

There is a loop that you can use that will hold it in your ear but then it will 
not fit properly into the charging case. I don't know how it just stays in my 
ear and honestly it took some getting accustomed to the fear of it not just 
falling out while in the store. It is like an ear bud with a little black 
cylinder attached to it. How it just hangs there I don't know but I have only 
ever lost it out of my ear once. It fell into my shopping cart and I heard it 
land in the cart.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

So, does the edge just sit in your ear canal like an ear bud. I’m trying to 
imagine it. What prevents it from falling out. I can’t use ear buds because 
they constantly pop out or hurt my ears.

Thanks for any details. I’d really love to find a great ear peace

Christina
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
>
> I tried both and returned the legend and kept the Edge.
> The Legend felt way  bulky and a hassle to quickly put on. It  was 
> like having a small transformer plastered on the side of my face. That 
> and  the magnetic charging felt gimmicky.
> Since the  Edge reverted to the traditional charging cable, I guess I 
> wasn't the  only one who had the same impression about the magnetic 
> charging design.
> I prefer the sound  quality  on the Edge too. More a subjective 
> aspect, but to me at least, the  Legend sounded more muffled. 
> Especially with distortion at higher volume levels.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an 
> Edge?
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking for advice inview of my several year old Plantronics Voyager 
> Legend ending it's lifespan.
>
> Wondering if I should get a replacement Voyager Legend or move on to a 
> Plantronics Edge. Anyone who has tried both have advice? I have 
> enjoyed the Legend.
>
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: Bar Code Reader App??

[Richard Turner]

As far as I know yes.
When I bought the app, it was $19.99, so they have dropped the price.
Enjoy,
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Pinky  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> So I went to the site and read about the app. I take it then all you need to 
> do is pay the $9.95 and you can then scan items from the grocery store and 
> the app will tell you what they are. Also for that price can you go to the 
> web site and make your own labels?
> 
> Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bar Code Reader App??
> 
> Digit-Eyes by Digital Miracles, L.L.C.
> https://appsto.re/us/QG8Bw.i
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Pinky  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Is there a cost for digitize app?
>> Ed
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terrie Terlau
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bar Code Reader App??
>> 
>> Is it hard to locate the barcode with digit eyes? Can digitize see barcodes 
>> on products from stores, the ready made barcodes? I know you can make your 
>> own barcode labels but how does it do with boxed foods and cans of food, and 
>> other household products? Does it have a barcode database for these things? 
>> Thanks for any clarification. I had heard that iPhone cameras were not as 
>> good at picking out bar codes as were the laser barcode readers, but I am 
>> wondering if this is accurate.
>> Thanks for any information anyone can share.
>> Another question: does digitize have barcodes that you can so or pin onto 
>> clothing and that can go through the washer and dryer for color labels?
>> Thanks
>> Best,
>> Terrie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 10:33 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Digit-eyes is great. VoiceOver accessible. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates,
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>>> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
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 On Mar 22, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
 
 Hi, Everyone.
 Is there a usable bar code scanning/reading app that a totally blind 
 user can access?
 
 Thanks,
 Dani
 
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iOS 9.3 Native Camera App Zoom Is Still Not VoiceOver Accessible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this notice.

To my dismay, I can confirm that the iOS 9.3 native camera app zoom is still
not voiceOver accessible.

This feature has not been VoiceOver accessible since iOS 8.1.3, if memory
serves.  

In order to zoom in on an image, one has to first disable VoiceOver then,
zoom to the desired amount, then, without dismissing the camera app,
re-enable VoiceOver, then take the shot.  

It could be worse, I suppose.  At one time, during one of the beta cycles,
re-enabling VoiceOver actually cancelled the zoom, altogether.

Mark

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Re: dropbox closing documents.

[Ann Byrne]

App switcher???
At 01:34 PM 3/23/2016, you wrote:




hi.
there is no back button in this screen.
and the gesture scrub does not work.
I have to find another alternative to read 
documents in the service of the clouds.


thanks.
cheers.

Às 16:49 de 23/03/2016, Woody Anna Dresner escreveu:

Hi,

You should be able to use the Back button or 
the scrub gesture to close documents.


Best,
Anna




On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Mário Navarro  wrote:



hi all.
Someone can explain me how to close an open document in dropbox in IOS?
I could never close a document in dropbox with voice over.
Does anyone know how to do this?
thanks.
cheers.

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RE: something weird with ibooks on ios 9.3

[M. Taylor]

Okay, Because this may effect others, I am going to cross post this.

After reading this thread, I discovered that there appears to be a bug in 
iBooks iOS 9.3.

When the Purchases Tab is activated, in iBooks, the display changes to a list 
view as follows:

Updates, Books, then Audio Books.

If one selects one of these items, for example Audio Books, a secondary list 
view describing categories such as All Books, Recent Purchases, Business, 
Fiction, etc is displayed.  

It is this secondary list that is currently inaccessible via VoiceOver.  
However, if one disables VoiceOver, then selects one of these secondary list 
items, then re-enables VoiceOver, the resulting lists of titles is VoiceOver 
accessible.

So, please join me in reporting this bug to Apple.

I hope this helps.

Mark

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Anouk Radix
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: something weird with ibooks on ios 9.3

Hi, i dont see the icloud only books on the my books tab unfortunately, just 
the ones that are actually on the phone.
I checked on the mac and there I can see the books that are in icloud so they 
are still there, at least i just cant see them on the iphone.
Greetings, Anou,
> On 23 Mar 2016, at 19:47, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes. I don't tend to look at purchased books. I just go to my books. But I 
> just did that after seeing your message, and I'm not seeing anything. Not in 
> the books all or not in the books not on my iPhone. Nothing. But my books all 
> seem to be there. If I go to the my books tab, there are lots of books, many 
> of which are not on the phone, and those say download from iCloud. So, I'm 
> not sure what's going on.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I use ios 9.3 with voiceover speech no zoom. I cant seem to review my 
>> purchased books. I go to my purchases within ibooks and then select books 
>> and then books not on my iphone bu tnothing results while i know books 
>> should be there. Anyone else experiencing this?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: iphone se

[Mary Otten]

No, 3D touch is available only on the 6S and 6S plus. It was introduced last 
year with iOS 9 for those phones.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Is 3D touch available on the 5S? If so, how do we use it?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:32 am
> Subject: RE: iphone se
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Kevin,
>> 
>> It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean by 
>> "it's not discoverable", but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch options are 
>> available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in certain situations. 
>> For example, using it with the App Store app if I want to search for an app. 
>> Instead of double tapping on the app, then double tapping on the search tab 
>> at the bottom and then finding the search edit field at the top left and 
>> double tapping on it to put focus in it and bring up the keyboard, I just 
>> press down on the App Store icon on the home screen, do a quick swipe right 
>> (that puts me on the "Search" option in the menu, then I do a quick double 
>> tap and bingo, focus is already in the search box with the keyboard on the 
>> screen waiting for me to type my search term.
>> Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or my 
>> manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a couple of 
>> times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the context menu 
>> (they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app with useful 
>> functions in the context menu is the Camera app.
>> 
>> These are just a few examples, I'm sure in time Apple will figure out more 
>> ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably 
>> depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to 
>> keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications 
>> which we as blind users may not be able to use.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kevin Chao
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>> 
>> 3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of 
>> where it can be used or where it works. 
>> it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting 
>> with it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below £100 
>> as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
>> Talks on even now. I still have some.
>> 
>> The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of 
>> those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish
>> stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.
>> 
>> BobH.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
>> Subject: RE: iphone se
>> 
>> 
>> Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. 
>> But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
>> 4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a 
>> free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
>> unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a used 
>> 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
>> Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I also 
>> still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
>> probably should have done so before this came out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ronald van Rhijn
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, I assume you don't understand Dutch, so giving you the link to the 
>> article won't benefit you. The article was published today
>> on a well respected Dutch Apple news site called: iCulture.nl 
>>  . Unfortunately they don't mention any sources
>> from which they got the detailed information. They only refer to a person 
>> who made the list, or something. the link to this person
>> is to Twitter.
>> 
>> Another feature the SE misses is the barometric sensor (dont know the exact 
>> English translation), which measures differences in
>> height and vertical movements like on stairs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dont believe my word for it, time will tell right.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Op 22 mrt. 2016, om 18:58 heeft Ronald van Rhijn >  > het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are more differences. The SE has 1st generation touch id while the 6s 
>> has 2nd gen, and since I use th

RE: iphone se

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, 3D Touch requires a special touch screen and at this point only the 6S and 
6S Plus have it. Of course the new phones that come out this fall will also 
have it, but the 5S and even the newly released iPhone SE do not have it.
 
> From: brajmund2...@gmail.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone se
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:18:57 +
> 
> Hello,
> Is 3D touch available on the 5S? If so, how do we use it?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:32 am
> Subject: RE: iphone se
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi Kevin,
> >  
> > It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean 
> > by "it's not discoverable", but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch options 
> > are available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in certain 
> > situations. For example, using it with the App Store app if I want to 
> > search for an app. Instead of double tapping on the app, then double 
> > tapping on the search tab at the bottom and then finding the search edit 
> > field at the top left and double tapping on it to put focus in it and bring 
> > up the keyboard, I just press down on the App Store icon on the home 
> > screen, do a quick swipe right (that puts me on the "Search" option in the 
> > menu, then I do a quick double tap and bingo, focus is already in the 
> > search box with the keyboard on the screen waiting for me to type my search 
> > term.
> > Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or 
> > my manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a 
> > couple of times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the 
> > context menu (they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app 
> > with useful functions in the context menu is the Camera app.
> >  
> > These are just a few examples, I'm sure in time Apple will figure out more 
> > ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably 
> > depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to 
> > keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications 
> > which we as blind users may not be able to use.
> >  
> >  
> > Regards,
> > Sieghard
> >  
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Kevin Chao
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: iphone se
> >  
> > 3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of 
> > where it can be used or where it works. 
> > it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting 
> > with it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.
> >  
> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> >  wrote:
> > The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below £100 
> > as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
> > Talks on even now. I still have some.
> > 
> > The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of 
> > those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish
> > stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.
> > 
> > BobH.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
> > Subject: RE: iphone se
> > 
> > 
> > Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. 
> > But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
> > 4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a 
> > free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
> > unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a used 
> > 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
> > Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I also 
> > still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
> > probably should have done so before this came out.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Sieghard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Ronald van Rhijn
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: iphone se
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I assume you don't understand Dutch, so giving you the link to the 
> > article won't benefit you. The article was published today
> > on a well respected Dutch Apple news site called: iCulture.nl 
> >  . Unfortunately they don't mention any sources
> > from which they got the detailed information. They only refer to a person 
> > who made the list, or something. the link to this person
> > is to Twitter.
> > 
> > Another feature the SE misses is the barometric sensor (dont know the exact 
> > English translation), which measures differences in
> > height and vertical movements like on stairs.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dont believe my word for it, time will tell

update: ibooks on ios 9.3

[Anouk Radix]

Hi,
I looked again at the my books app and went to the collections button , i have 
it set to all books but when i explored further i found a toggle for 
hiding/showing book son icloud. So that does fix my problem i still find it 
weird that the my purchases tab does not seem to work normally though.
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: something weird with ibooks on ios 9.3

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, i dont see the icloud only books on the my books tab unfortunately, just 
the ones that are actually on the phone.
I checked on the mac and there I can see the books that are in icloud so they 
are still there, at least i just cant see them on the iphone.
Greetings, Anou,
> On 23 Mar 2016, at 19:47, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes. I don't tend to look at purchased books. I just go to my books. But I 
> just did that after seeing your message, and I'm not seeing anything. Not in 
> the books all or not in the books not on my iPhone. Nothing. But my books all 
> seem to be there. If I go to the my books tab, there are lots of books, many 
> of which are not on the phone, and those say download from iCloud. So, I'm 
> not sure what's going on.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I use ios 9.3 with voiceover speech no zoom. I cant seem to review my 
>> purchased books. I go to my purchases within ibooks and then select books 
>> and then books not on my iphone bu tnothing results while i know books 
>> should be there. Anyone else experiencing this?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: iphone se

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Is 3D touch available on the 5S? If so, how do we use it?



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:32 am
Subject: RE: iphone se

>
>
> Hi Kevin,
>  
> It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean by 
> "it's not discoverable", but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch options are 
> available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in certain situations. 
> For example, using it with the App Store app if I want to search for an app. 
> Instead of double tapping on the app, then double tapping on the search tab 
> at the bottom and then finding the search edit field at the top left and 
> double tapping on it to put focus in it and bring up the keyboard, I just 
> press down on the App Store icon on the home screen, do a quick swipe right 
> (that puts me on the "Search" option in the menu, then I do a quick double 
> tap and bingo, focus is already in the search box with the keyboard on the 
> screen waiting for me to type my search term.
> Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or my 
> manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a couple of 
> times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the context menu 
> (they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app with useful 
> functions in the context menu is the Camera app.
>  
> These are just a few examples, I'm sure in time Apple will figure out more 
> ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably 
> depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to 
> keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications 
> which we as blind users may not be able to use.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Chao
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone se
>  
> 3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of 
> where it can be used or where it works. 
> it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting with 
> it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.
>  
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below £100 
> as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
> Talks on even now. I still have some.
> 
> The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of 
> those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish
> stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.
> 
> BobH.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
> Subject: RE: iphone se
> 
> 
> Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. 
> But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
> 4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a 
> free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
> unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a used 
> 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
> Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I also 
> still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
> probably should have done so before this came out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ronald van Rhijn
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone se
> 
> 
> 
> Well, I assume you don't understand Dutch, so giving you the link to the 
> article won't benefit you. The article was published today
> on a well respected Dutch Apple news site called: iCulture.nl 
>  . Unfortunately they don't mention any sources
> from which they got the detailed information. They only refer to a person who 
> made the list, or something. the link to this person
> is to Twitter.
> 
> Another feature the SE misses is the barometric sensor (dont know the exact 
> English translation), which measures differences in
> height and vertical movements like on stairs.
> 
> 
> 
> Dont believe my word for it, time will tell right.
> 
> 
> 
> Ronald
> 
> 
> 
> Op 22 mrt. 2016, om 18:58 heeft Ronald van Rhijn   > het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are more differences. The SE has 1st generation touch id while the 6s 
> has 2nd gen, and since I use the 6s's touch id daily,
> the 2nd gen isn't perfect bij a long shot.
> 
> The SE's front camera is much worse than 6s, a 1.2mp instead of a 5mp one.. 
> The main-camera is also 12mp, but the SE uses a somewhat
> older sensor. High-speed data transfer lacks some minor frequencies and last 
> but not least it is probably safe to say

Re: best twitter app????

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Stephanie, Tweetings is an excellent app and I've actually found it to be 
the best of all of them at keeping one's place. If you haven't already, you 
might like to check out the podcast I recently posted to AppleVis where I talk 
about strategies for doing this.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 23/03/2016, at 11:53 PM, Stephanie  wrote:
> 
> I like tweetings, although I don't like the fact it won't keep it's place in 
> the timeline when I tweet.
> Steph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Gianni  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:49 pm
> Subject: best twitter app
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, What is the best twitter app for us? I have an iphone 6plus.
>> 
>> 
>> Gianni
>> 
>> Skype: giannijuve
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Send mail with voiceover bug still present

[rajmund]

Hi,
Same here to be fair, then wanted logs, and without iTunes

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From: Simon w On Mar 22, 2016, at 11:40 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
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Second test.

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On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Mary Otten  
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So if you are replying to a thread that has a few messages in 
it, you experience no delay from when you hit the send button too 
when voiceover responds? That is indeed fascinating.

Mary


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On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
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No bug for me on my iPhone6s witb ios 9.3

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On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Mary Otten  
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I would like to urge everyone who is experiencing this problem 
to write to Apple accessibility explaining the problem in 
sufficient detail.  I know I have done that I'm sure others have.  
But they still haven't fixed it.  So if each one of us rights, 
maybe we will eventually get through to them that this is not an 
isolated problem, is not device dependent and is, in fact, easily 
repeatable.

Mary


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On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Tom Lange  
wrote:


Yep, you were right.  As soon as I hit Send on my last post, VO 
went silent for about 30 seconds.  Jeez, why can't Apple fix that 
one? Hmmm.


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On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Tom Lange  
wrote:


Okay, I'll put this to the test.  Here goes...

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2016, at 3:44 PM, rajmund  
wrote:


No, if the email is small, it will not kill voice over.  Respond 
to this one, and I'm certain it will die.


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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner , Apple Of course, the message below that I just sent, there was no hang 
with VoiceOver.  So, it is a random bug.  Oh well.

Richard



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On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:56 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



In iOS 9.3, the VoiceOver hang after sending an email is still 
present.
I have confirmed this by sending several messages on both my 
iPhone 5s and my iPod Touch 6th generation.
I am glad though that one other major VoiceOver bug has been 
fixed, that of not being able to leave reviews in the app store.  
It is nice being able to leave reviews again after so long.
This message is going to both Apple Accessibility and the 
VIPhone users list.

Richard



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Re: Send mail with voiceover bug still present

[rajmund]

Hi,
Ah, yes, that's what supposed to happen.  Sending new messages 
work, unlike replies.


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From: Feliciano Godoy When i replied to this, i had a 10 sec lag after the swosh.  When 
i compose, no lag.  Strange.


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Second test.

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On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Mary Otten  
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So if you are replying to a thread that has a few messages in 
it, you experience no delay from when you hit the send button too 
when voiceover responds? That is indeed fascinating.

Mary


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On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
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No bug for me on my iPhone6s witb ios 9.3

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to write to Apple accessibility explaining the problem in 
sufficient detail.  I know I have done that I'm sure others have.  
But they still haven't fixed it.  So if each one of us rights, 
maybe we will eventually get through to them that this is not an 
isolated problem, is not device dependent and is, in fact, easily 
repeatable.

Mary


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Yep, you were right.  As soon as I hit Send on my last post, VO 
went silent for about 30 seconds.  Jeez, why can't Apple fix that 
one? Hmmm.


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Okay, I'll put this to the test.  Here goes...

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No, if the email is small, it will not kill voice over.  Respond 
to this one, and I'm certain it will die.


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I am glad though that one other major VoiceOver bug has been 
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Hang on, though, its hotmail.  Anyone try something but GMAIL? I 
didn't think it would be provider specific


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From: Feliciano Godoy On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Mary Otten  
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So if you are replying to a thread that has a few messages in 
it, you experience no delay from when you hit the send button too 
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repeatable.

Mary


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Yep, you were right.  As soon as I hit Send on my last post, VO 
went silent for about 30 seconds.  Jeez, why can't Apple fix that 
one? Hmmm.


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Okay, I'll put this to the test.  Here goes...

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No, if the email is small, it will not kill voice over.  Respond 
to this one, and I'm certain it will die.


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Richard



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I am glad though that one other major VoiceOver bug has been 
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Re: Send mail with voiceover bug still present

[rajmund]

Hi,
All I will say is, a friend of mine said the same on their iPhone 
6, I gave a little guidance, it died on them.


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you experience no delay from when you hit the send button too 
when voiceover responds? That is indeed fascinating.

Mary


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to write to Apple accessibility explaining the problem in 
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But they still haven't fixed it.  So if each one of us rights, 
maybe we will eventually get through to them that this is not an 
isolated problem, is not device dependent and is, in fact, easily 
repeatable.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Tom Lange  
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Yep, you were right.  As soon as I hit Send on my last post, VO 
went silent for about 30 seconds.  Jeez, why can't Apple fix that 
one? Hmmm.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Tom Lange  
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Okay, I'll put this to the test.  Here goes...

Sent from my iPhone

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No, if the email is small, it will not kill voice over.  Respond 
to this one, and I'm certain it will die.


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with VoiceOver.  So, it is a random bug.  Oh well.

Richard



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present.
I have confirmed this by sending several messages on both my 
iPhone 5s and my iPod Touch 6th generation.
I am glad though that one other major VoiceOver bug has been 
fixed, that of not being able to leave reviews in the app store.  
It is nice being able to leave reviews again after so long.
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Re: Send mail with voiceover bug still present

[rajmund]

Hello,
Dunno, honestly, dunno.  I have reported it not once, not twice.  
So have others.  There are even patterns, and absolutely, 
nothing.


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one? Hmmm.


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Okay, I'll put this to the test.  Here goes...

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No, if the email is small, it will not kill voice over.  Respond 
to this one, and I'm certain it will die.


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From: Richard Turner , Apple Of course, the message below that I just sent, there was no hang 
with VoiceOver.  So, it is a random bug.  Oh well.

Richard



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I have confirmed this by sending several messages on both my 
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I am glad though that one other major VoiceOver bug has been 
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Re: Send mail with voiceover bug still present

[rajmund]

Hello,
I've tried a few, the closest that I got to something that I like 
was type mail, but still find the built in app quicker to use.


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I would like to urge everyone who is experiencing this problem 
to write to
Apple accessibility explaining the problem in sufficient detail.  
I know I
have done that I'm sure others have.  But they still haven't 
fixed it.  So if
each one of us rights, maybe we will eventually get through to 
them that
this is not an isolated problem, is not device dependent and is, 
in fact,

easily repeatable.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Tom Lange  
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Yep, you were right.  As soon as I hit Send on my last post, VO 
went
silent for about 30 seconds.  Jeez, why can't Apple fix that 
one? Hmmm.


Sent from my iPhone

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Okay, I'll put this to the test.  Here goes...

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2016, at 3:44 PM, rajmund  
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No, if the email is small, it will not kill voice over.  Respond 
to

this one, and I'm certain it will die.

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From: Richard Turner , Apple Of course, the message below that I just sent, there was no hang 
with

VoiceOver.  So, it is a random bug.  Oh well.
Richard



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In iOS 9.3, the VoiceOver hang after sending an email is still 
present.
I have confirmed this by sending several messages on both my 
iPhone 5s

and my iPod Touch 6th generation.
I am glad though that one other major VoiceOver bug has been 
fixed,
that of not being able to leave reviews in the app store.  It is 
nice being

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Re: something weird with ibooks on ios 9.3

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Yes. I don't tend to look at purchased books. I just go to my books. But I just 
did that after seeing your message, and I'm not seeing anything. Not in the 
books all or not in the books not on my iPhone. Nothing. But my books all seem 
to be there. If I go to the my books tab, there are lots of books, many of 
which are not on the phone, and those say download from iCloud. So, I'm not 
sure what's going on.
Mary


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> Hi everyone,
> I use ios 9.3 with voiceover speech no zoom. I cant seem to review my 
> purchased books. I go to my purchases within ibooks and then select books and 
> then books not on my iphone bu tnothing results while i know books should be 
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Re: Iphone 4s and voiceover not working right

[Chris Chaffin]

You might want to try doing a reset of your phone.
Hold down the home button and power button at the same time for about 10 
seconds.  Your phone will automatically shut down and then restart.
Hopefully this will fix the problem.

Chris


> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Amy Johnson  wrote:
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> I have Iphone 4s and did the update last night.  Update was fine but
> today I ended a call and voice over froze up. I've been having to use
> serie to text and call.  Voiceover will only work on the serie screen
> for some reason.  Any suggestions? I tried turning phone off and
> turning it back on in 5 minutes. Also turned voice over off and back
> on.  Not sure what else to do.
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Re: dropbox closing documents.

[Mário Navarro]

hi.
there is no back button in this screen.
and the gesture scrub does not work.
I have to find another alternative to read documents in the service of 
the clouds.


thanks.
cheers.

Às 16:49 de 23/03/2016, Woody Anna Dresner escreveu:

Hi,

You should be able to use the Back button or the scrub gesture to close 
documents.

Best,
Anna




On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Mário Navarro  wrote:



hi all.
Someone can explain me how to close an open document in dropbox in IOS?
I could never close a document in dropbox with voice over.
Does anyone know how to do this?
thanks.
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something weird with ibooks on ios 9.3

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone,
I use ios 9.3 with voiceover speech no zoom. I cant seem to review my purchased 
books. I go to my purchases within ibooks and then select books and then books 
not on my iphone bu tnothing results while i know books should be there. Anyone 
else experiencing this?
Greetings, Anouk,

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apple tv 4 and blue tooth keyboard

[Larry Lumpkin]

I'm using an amazon basic keyboard.  I am having extreme difficulty getting
the tv to accept my entries.  Am I missing something.  I posted earlier on
this but haven't received any responses so far.  I'd really appreciate some
help with this.

 

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problem with apple tv 4 and my tuner pro

[Larry Lumpkin]

When I play a station, the play stops when screen saver comes on.  This
didn't happen before the update.  Amnyone else experience this?

 

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RE: FaceTime podcast

[Pinky]

Another way to make a facetime call is just press the home button until you 
hear two beeps and say Facetime Joe Smith and it will connect if you have him 
in your contact list.

Ed

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime podcast

 

Hi Fanus,

 

You can check Applevis, but it would be a pretty short Podcast as there isn’t a 
lot to it. First of all, make sure you have it turned on in Settings > 
Facetime. There you can also add your Apple Id or any other additional emails 
you might want to use. Since Facetime is available on devices like the iPad or 
iPod Touch, and I’m pretty sure you have an iPad, I highly recommend you add at 
least your Apple Id so you can also use your iPad to make and receive Facetime 
calls.

 

The other prerequesit is that the person you want to do a Facetime call with 
also must have an iOS device and Facetime must be enabled. If that is the case 
you can initiate a Facetime Audio only call or a regular Facetime call which 
includes video.

 

It is easiest from the contacts. When you double tap on a contact you can swipe 
right through the entry and after the phone number/numbers you find a Facetime 
headingand then buttons for Facetime Audio and Facetime. Tap either one and it 
should start ringing. If somebody calls you it’s like receiving a phone call 
and you can do a 2-finger doble tap to answer or find the “Accept” button and 
tap it.

 

If you call somebody with video, you have a Camera button on the screen. By 
default 
Facetime uses the front facing camera so it points to you. The Camera button is 
a toggle so if you want to show something to somebody and use the back camera, 
just double tap on the camera button. If the call has already connected the 
video maybe full screen, if that is the case (if there is no End Call or Camera 
button) you can just double tap anywhere on the screen and the buttons will 
become visible

 

 

 

Once configured  for 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FaceTime podcast

 

Hello list

Is there a podcast explaining how FaceTime works?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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RE: Bar Code Reader App??

[Pinky]

Hi Richard,
So I went to the site and read about the app. I take it then all you need to do 
is pay the $9.95 and you can then scan items from the grocery store and the app 
will tell you what they are. Also for that price can you go to the web site and 
make your own labels?

Ed

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Digit-Eyes by Digital Miracles, L.L.C.
https://appsto.re/us/QG8Bw.i


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Mar 22, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Pinky  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Is there a cost for digitize app?
> Ed
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> Terrie Terlau
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bar Code Reader App??
> 
> Is it hard to locate the barcode with digit eyes? Can digitize see barcodes 
> on products from stores, the ready made barcodes? I know you can make your 
> own barcode labels but how does it do with boxed foods and cans of food, and 
> other household products? Does it have a barcode database for these things? 
> Thanks for any clarification. I had heard that iPhone cameras were not as 
> good at picking out bar codes as were the laser barcode readers, but I am 
> wondering if this is accurate.
> Thanks for any information anyone can share.
> Another question: does digitize have barcodes that you can so or pin onto 
> clothing and that can go through the washer and dryer for color labels?
> Thanks
> Best,
> Terrie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Digit-eyes is great. VoiceOver accessible. 
>> 
>> Regards,
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>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
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>>> Hi, Everyone.
>>> Is there a usable bar code scanning/reading app that a totally blind 
>>> user can access?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dani
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Re: dropbox closing documents.

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You should be able to use the Back button or the scrub gesture to close 
documents.

Best,
Anna



> On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> hi all.
> Someone can explain me how to close an open document in dropbox in IOS?
> I could never close a document in dropbox with voice over.
> Does anyone know how to do this?
> thanks.
> cheers.
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Iphone 4s and voiceover not working right

[Amy Johnson]

I have Iphone 4s and did the update last night.  Update was fine but
today I ended a call and voice over froze up. I've been having to use
serie to text and call.  Voiceover will only work on the serie screen
for some reason.  Any suggestions? I tried turning phone off and
turning it back on in 5 minutes. Also turned voice over off and back
on.  Not sure what else to do.

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Re: iphone se

[Ronald van Rhijn]

No not quite. I wrote earlier I mostly swipe around the screen and only know 
the approximate location of most apps.

Ronald

> Op 23 mrt. 2016, om 14:45 heeft Sieghard Weitzel  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hmm, but in order to double tap anywhere to open an app you have to first 
> touch the app and when you touch the app you already have your finger in the 
> right place to press and invoke the 3D touch menu.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Ronald van Rhijn
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: iphone se
>  
> I never use 3D Touch. Of course its all new and we need to get used to it. My 
> biggest problem with it in terms of time saving is concerned is you have to 
> put your finger on the exact location of the app you want to perform the 3D 
> action on. Personnally I swipe alot to get to the desired app and then double 
> tapping somewhere on the screen to open. So by the time I find the exact 
> location of some apps, I already opened it with swiping and double tapping 
> anywhere on the screen.
> No doubt more and better usage of 3D Touch will come.
>  
> Ronald
>  
>  
>> Op 23 mrt. 2016, om 08:32 heeft Sieghard Weitzel > > het volgende geschreven:
>>  
>> Hi Kevin,
>>  
>> It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean by 
>> “it’s not discoverable”, but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch options are 
>> available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in certain situations. 
>> For example, using it with the App Store app if I want to search for an app. 
>> Instead of double tapping on the app, then double tapping on the search tab 
>> at the bottom and then finding the search edit field at the top left and 
>> double tapping on it to put focus in it and bring up the keyboard, I just 
>> press down on the App Store icon on the home screen, do a quick swipe right 
>> (that puts me on the “Search” option in the menu, then I do a quick double 
>> tap and bingo, focus is already in the search box with the keyboard on the 
>> screen waiting for me to type my search term.
>> Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or my 
>> manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a couple of 
>> times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the context menu 
>> (they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app with useful 
>> functions in the context menu is the Camera app.
>>  
>> These are just a few examples, I’m sure in time Apple will figure out more 
>> ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably 
>> depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to 
>> keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications 
>> which we as blind users may not be able to use.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>>  
>> 3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of 
>> where it can be used or where it works. 
>> it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting 
>> with it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.
>>  
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below £100 
>>> as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
>>> Talks on even now. I still have some.
>>> 
>>> The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of 
>>> those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish
>>> stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.
>>> 
>>> BobH.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
>>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
>>> Subject: RE: iphone se
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. 
>>> But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
>>> 4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a 
>>> free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
>>> unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a used 
>>> 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
>>> Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I also 
>>> still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
>>> probably should have done so before this came out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sieghard
>>> 

dropbox closing documents.

[Mário Navarro]

hi all.
Someone can explain me how to close an open document in dropbox in IOS?
I could never close a document in dropbox with voice over.
Does anyone know how to do this?
thanks.
cheers.

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Re: UPGRADED 4S TO 9.3 AND WANTS A SIM!

[Marie]

Once in a while as I double tap to hang up a call, I accidently do a three 
finger double tap which turns off speech. Try doing a three finger double 
tap and see if it turns on speech. With speech off, you will not hear 
voiceover.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Amy Johnson

Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: UPGRADED 4S TO 9.3 AND WANTS A SIM!

I didn't have this problem but I have a 4s and updated fine until
today I hung up a call and now voice over will not speak. I tried
turning voice over off and back on and it still doens't speak. What
can I do?

On 3/23/16, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  wrote:

Hi all,

I was a little annoyed yesterday when I'd upgraded my 4S to discover
that it was asking for a sim to be inserted to complete the setup. This
did not happen with previous iOS9 upgrades and I was, as a result, able
to use the phone, without a sim, at least to take calls when in our
home. Now I cannot do this unless I put a sim in it and it looks as
though I have no option than to do so.

If anyone knows of a workaround, please, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks.

Carol P

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Re: UPGRADED 4S TO 9.3 AND WANTS A SIM!

[Kimber Gardner]

Plug the phone into your computer, open iTunes and go to the link for
setting up accessibility.

On 3/23/16, Amy Johnson  wrote:
> I didn't have this problem but I have a 4s and updated fine until
> today I hung up a call and now voice over will not speak. I tried
> turning voice over off and back on and it still doens't speak. What
> can I do?
>
> On 3/23/16, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was a little annoyed yesterday when I'd upgraded my 4S to discover
>> that it was asking for a sim to be inserted to complete the setup. This
>> did not happen with previous iOS9 upgrades and I was, as a result, able
>> to use the phone, without a sim, at least to take calls when in our
>> home. Now I cannot do this unless I put a sim in it and it looks as
>> though I have no option than to do so.
>>
>> If anyone knows of a workaround, please, I'd love to hear from you.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Carol P
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Re: UPGRADED 4S TO 9.3 AND WANTS A SIM!

[Amy Johnson]

I didn't have this problem but I have a 4s and updated fine until
today I hung up a call and now voice over will not speak. I tried
turning voice over off and back on and it still doens't speak. What
can I do?

On 3/23/16, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was a little annoyed yesterday when I'd upgraded my 4S to discover
> that it was asking for a sim to be inserted to complete the setup. This
> did not happen with previous iOS9 upgrades and I was, as a result, able
> to use the phone, without a sim, at least to take calls when in our
> home. Now I cannot do this unless I put a sim in it and it looks as
> though I have no option than to do so.
>
> If anyone knows of a workaround, please, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Carol P
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RE: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which would be a game changer

[Cristóbal]

That and removing the extra chatter of VoiceOver speaking the date of each 
event when you can already flick from date to date with headings. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which 
would be a game changer

 

 

Well, I tried.

After writing a lengthy note using MBraille in the suggest a feature section of 
the Outlook app, it couldn't post my message.

I also tried to reply to this message from the Outlook app, but I'm not seeing 
the reply.

I discovered that you can edit your emails if you use MBraille when composing.

The head of Microsoft Accessibility recently met with my staff at work, so I 
will write him directly and encourage my staff to as well.

This is really stupid that we can't use the app without leaving all our typos.

Richard





(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Mary and others,

 

In connection with the discussion of the bug in the native mail app when 
replying to a thread, lend your voice to those of us who write to Microsoft 
asking them to fix an issue in Outlook which doesn’t allow Voiceover users to 
review/edit what they have written in the email body. If this were fixed, 
Outlook would be an excellent alternative to the native mail app and in my 
opinion it gives any other mail app whether accessible or not a run for its 
money.

 

The problem is that if you write text in the message body field, Voiceover will 
read the entire text, but it only clicks when you try to navigate by 
characters, words or lines. As far as I can tell this is pretty much the only 
problem with Outlook, otherwise it is a very excellent mail app with way more 
features than the native mail app and it gets excellent reviews. Here is what 
it says in the app description:

 

“The best email app for the iPhone.” - The Verge

 

Meet Outlook for iOS, the app that helps millions of users connect all their 
email accounts, calendars and files in one convenient spot. Newly redesigned, 
Outlook for iOS lets you do more from one powerful inbox.

 

See what matters most first with the Focused inbox that keeps the important 
messages on top. Switch between your emails and calendar to schedule your next 
meeting or share your availability with just a few taps. Or grab a document 
from your Files list and attach it to an email seamlessly.

 

With everything you need only a tap away, managing your busy days is now easier 
than ever.

 

Outlook for iOS works with Microsoft Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com 
(including Hotmail and MSN), Gmail, Yahoo Mail, and iCloud.

Outlook also connects to OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, Google Drive & Box so you 
can attach any file to an email without having to download it first to your 
mobile device.

You can now protect your inbox with Touch ID and get the privacy you deserve. 
Keep your messages away from prying eyes by requiring your fingerprint or 
device passcode in order to access your Outlook account. To enable Touch ID, 
take a look at the app Settings under Preferences. (iOS 9 users) Your inbox – 
and dare we say it, the world – is now at your fingertips.

 

Anybody who wants to contact Microsoft and ask to have the bug fixed which 
prevents Voiceover users from reviewing/editing text in the email body 
character by character, word by word, line by line or by using cut, copy and 
paste, please install the Outlook app, add a mail account and then go to 
Settings (the bottom right tab), then tap on the first button at the top of the 
screen called “Help and Support”. Use the “Suggest a Feature” option instead of 
“Contact Support”. The reason for this becomes clear in the below thread. I had 
sent in a message using contact support and received a reply in about 13 
minutes (impressive). This by the way is all fully accessible. Here is my 
message and the reply:

 

Sieghard, 12-Mar-2016 04:38

I am a blind user of an iPhone and I have previously sent in this feedback. I 
am really wondering when your development team is going to take the time to 
make the outlook app usable for Voiceover users. Microsoft has shown great 
commitment to excess ability with many other apps, and while the outlook app is 
fully accessible for reading emails it is impossible to compose emails. At this 
point it is not possible to type some text and then review or change it because 
Voiceover does not read back any text that has been written in the message 
body. This is effectively a deal-breaker. I would be happy to discuss further 
if my assistance would be of help, but the issue is really easy to reproduce if 
voiceover is turned on and you write some text in the email message body and 
then try to review it either by character or word. It is great to see all these 
new features are getting at it, but it is very frustrating that as a 

Re: iOS 9.3, Apple Music and iTunes Match

[Grant]

Hi Brett,

I have Apple Music (not iTunes Match) and I am able to stream my own collection 
of music from the cloud, even tracks which are not available in Apple Music. I 
truly believe Apple Music includes all the features of iTunes Match.

Best,

Grant

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:57 AM, Brett  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, its pretty much duplication these days. The only reason you would want 
> it these days is if you have music that cannot be found on Apple music, if 
> you iTumes match it you can stream it on any of your iDevices. It is also a 
> good way to ucgrade dodgy music to better quality, but that's less necessary 
> these days with streaming services offering simelar quality. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Brett. 
> 
> 
> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> 
>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 2:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't have an answer, but just out of curiocity, if you subscribe to Apple 
>> Music isn't subscribing to iTunes Match duplication?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:16 AM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: iOS 9.3, Apple Music and iTunes Match
>> 
>> Greetings all. I updated my iPhone 6S to iOS 9.3 last night. Last fall I had 
>> signed up for iTunes Match in order to keep all my songs in a digital locker 
>> in the cloud and take with me to future phones. I've done several iOS 
>> updates since then without a problem. Last night though, to my utter shock, 
>> nearly all of the 4,200 songs in my collection, along with the around 800 
>> songs that I have added to playlists from Apple Music, had disappeared. Over 
>> the last few months, I have setup several playlists for different things, 
>> like love songs, worship music, Christmas music, and "all songs" which has 
>> everything in my collection. It was quite a shock to see the All Songs 
>> playlist go from around 4,200 songs to 139 songs, or the Hard and Heavy 
>> playlist go from 330 songs to just 2 songs. I've got the 4,200 songs on an 
>> external drive, but not the Apple Music that I've saved. I've spent a long 
>> time tediously deleting what I don't want from my collection and don't look 
>> forward to doing it all over again. Short of doing a complete restore, does 
>> anyone have any ideas how I can get my music back from iTunes Match? I'm not 
>> sure if this is specific to iTunes Match or Apple Music since I subscribe to 
>> both. Whatever the case, it is extremely frustrating and makes me wonder if 
>> iTunes Match is worth the time, especially if the songs are going to 
>> suddenly disappear after 5 or 6 months.
>> 
>> On a related note, does anyone use Google Play Music and if so how do you 
>> like it? What do you like and not like about Play Music? It looks similar to 
>> the Apple offerings, except that with Play Music, you can store up to 50,000 
>> songs for free. That alone is tempting.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Wayne
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Developer Email For Trivia Crack Kingdoms

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi guys. What's the email for the developers behind Trivia Crack Kingdoms? I'd 
like to email them about that message that my device doesn't support the ad 
free feature. It's been 3 days and still no fix. Thanks.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

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Re: FaceTime podcast

[Regina Alvarado]

When answering a Facetime call is there a button to answer? How can I get it? 
Sometimes I double tap and it will not connect. Same with hanging up. I have a 
friend I facetime with regularly, and we have had to shut down one of the 
phones to get rid of the call. I have worked to find buttons, but the phone 
keeps saying video.

reggie & Lex

On Mar 23, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Fanus,
 
You can check Applevis, but it would be a pretty short Podcast as there isn’t a 
lot to it. First of all, make sure you have it turned on in Settings > 
Facetime. There you can also add your Apple Id or any other additional emails 
you might want to use. Since Facetime is available on devices like the iPad or 
iPod Touch, and I’m pretty sure you have an iPad, I highly recommend you add at 
least your Apple Id so you can also use your iPad to make and receive Facetime 
calls.
 
The other prerequesit is that the person you want to do a Facetime call with 
also must have an iOS device and Facetime must be enabled. If that is the case 
you can initiate a Facetime Audio only call or a regular Facetime call which 
includes video.
 
It is easiest from the contacts. When you double tap on a contact you can swipe 
right through the entry and after the phone number/numbers you find a Facetime 
headingand then buttons for Facetime Audio and Facetime. Tap either one and it 
should start ringing. If somebody calls you it’s like receiving a phone call 
and you can do a 2-finger doble tap to answer or find the “Accept” button and 
tap it.
 
If you call somebody with video, you have a Camera button on the screen. By 
default 
Facetime uses the front facing camera so it points to you. The Camera button is 
a toggle so if you want to show something to somebody and use the back camera, 
just double tap on the camera button. If the call has already connected the 
video maybe full screen, if that is the case (if there is no End Call or Camera 
button) you can just double tap anywhere on the screen and the buttons will 
become visible
 
 
 
Once configured  for
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FaceTime podcast
 
Hello list
Is there a podcast explaining how FaceTime works?
Regards
Fanus
 
 
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Re: FaceTime podcast

[Fanus]

Hello Sieghard
Thanks much. I did not realize it is as easy as that.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: FaceTime podcast

Hi Fanus,

 

You can check Applevis, but it would be a pretty short Podcast as there isn’t a 
lot to it. First of all, make sure you have it turned on in Settings > 
Facetime. There you can also add your Apple Id or any other additional emails 
you might want to use. Since Facetime is available on devices like the iPad or 
iPod Touch, and I’m pretty sure you have an iPad, I highly recommend you add at 
least your Apple Id so you can also use your iPad to make and receive Facetime 
calls.

 

The other prerequesit is that the person you want to do a Facetime call with 
also must have an iOS device and Facetime must be enabled. If that is the case 
you can initiate a Facetime Audio only call or a regular Facetime call which 
includes video.

 

It is easiest from the contacts. When you double tap on a contact you can swipe 
right through the entry and after the phone number/numbers you find a Facetime 
headingand then buttons for Facetime Audio and Facetime. Tap either one and it 
should start ringing. If somebody calls you it’s like receiving a phone call 
and you can do a 2-finger doble tap to answer or find the “Accept” button and 
tap it.

 

If you call somebody with video, you have a Camera button on the screen. By 
default 
Facetime uses the front facing camera so it points to you. The Camera button is 
a toggle so if you want to show something to somebody and use the back camera, 
just double tap on the camera button. If the call has already connected the 
video maybe full screen, if that is the case (if there is no End Call or Camera 
button) you can just double tap anywhere on the screen and the buttons will 
become visible

 

 

 

Once configured  for 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FaceTime podcast

 

Hello list

Is there a podcast explaining how FaceTime works?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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RE: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which would be a game changer

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

 

I just posted a new topic and gave it the title “Voiceover support for 
reviewing/editing text in the message body”. I found all steps in composing 
this were perfectly accessible, the title edit field, the description edit 
field, then a Next button at the top left, on the next screen my email address 
was already listed, it was also in the Name field which I changed to my name 
and the category field gave me several options and I chose “Bug”. When I was 
done there was a clearly labeled “Post” button at the top rigyht. Once I see my 
post I’ll let the list know, I think if you go in and search for “Voiceover” 
you should then find the topic and you can give it a “I want this” rating.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which 
would be a game changer

 

 

Well, I tried.

After writing a lengthy note using MBraille in the suggest a feature section of 
the Outlook app, it couldn't post my message.

I also tried to reply to this message from the Outlook app, but I'm not seeing 
the reply.

I discovered that you can edit your emails if you use MBraille when composing.

The head of Microsoft Accessibility recently met with my staff at work, so I 
will write him directly and encourage my staff to as well.

This is really stupid that we can't use the app without leaving all our typos.

Richard





(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi Mary and others,

 

In connection with the discussion of the bug in the native mail app when 
replying to a thread, lend your voice to those of us who write to Microsoft 
asking them to fix an issue in Outlook which doesn’t allow Voiceover users to 
review/edit what they have written in the email body. If this were fixed, 
Outlook would be an excellent alternative to the native mail app and in my 
opinion it gives any other mail app whether accessible or not a run for its 
money.

 

The problem is that if you write text in the message body field, Voiceover will 
read the entire text, but it only clicks when you try to navigate by 
characters, words or lines. As far as I can tell this is pretty much the only 
problem with Outlook, otherwise it is a very excellent mail app with way more 
features than the native mail app and it gets excellent reviews. Here is what 
it says in the app description:

 

“The best email app for the iPhone.” - The Verge

 

Meet Outlook for iOS, the app that helps millions of users connect all their 
email accounts, calendars and files in one convenient spot. Newly redesigned, 
Outlook for iOS lets you do more from one powerful inbox.

 

See what matters most first with the Focused inbox that keeps the important 
messages on top. Switch between your emails and calendar to schedule your next 
meeting or share your availability with just a few taps. Or grab a document 
from your Files list and attach it to an email seamlessly.

 

With everything you need only a tap away, managing your busy days is now easier 
than ever.

 

Outlook for iOS works with Microsoft Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com 
  (including Hotmail and MSN), Gmail, Yahoo Mail, and 
iCloud.

Outlook also connects to OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, Google Drive & Box so you 
can attach any file to an email without having to download it first to your 
mobile device.

You can now protect your inbox with Touch ID and get the privacy you deserve. 
Keep your messages away from prying eyes by requiring your fingerprint or 
device passcode in order to access your Outlook account. To enable Touch ID, 
take a look at the app Settings under Preferences. (iOS 9 users) Your inbox – 
and dare we say it, the world – is now at your fingertips.

 

Anybody who wants to contact Microsoft and ask to have the bug fixed which 
prevents Voiceover users from reviewing/editing text in the email body 
character by character, word by word, line by line or by using cut, copy and 
paste, please install the Outlook app, add a mail account and then go to 
Settings (the bottom right tab), then tap on the first button at the top of the 
screen called “Help and Support”. Use the “Suggest a Feature” option instead of 
“Contact Support”. The reason for this becomes clear in the below thread. I had 
sent in a message using contact support and received a reply in about 13 
minutes (impressive). This by the way is all fully accessible. Here is my 
message and the reply:

 

Sieghard, 12-Mar-2016 04:38

I am a blind user of an iPhone and I have previously sent in this feedback. I 
am really wondering when your development team is going to take the time to 
make the outlook app usable for Voiceover users. Microsoft has shown great 
commitment to excess ability with many other apps, and while the ou

Re: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which would be a game changer

[Kevin Chao]

This should only take one engineer no more than a couple of hours to fix.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 6:59 AM 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sieghard,
>
> Does this mean that you can actually set up a GMAIL account to work with
> Outlook.com software then? (Sorry, I'm not quite clear from your response
> here ...)
>
> In addition, does the Outlook app allow you to delete threads and/or a
> group of messages easily?
>
> What else do you particularly like over the native email app?
>
> Carol P
>
>
>
> On 23/03/2016 13:13, Richard Turner wrote:
>
>
> Well, I tried.
> After writing a lengthy note using MBraille in the suggest a feature
> section of the Outlook app, it couldn't post my message.
> I also tried to reply to this message from the Outlook app, but I'm not
> seeing the reply.
> I discovered that you can edit your emails if you use MBraille when
> composing.
> The head of Microsoft Accessibility recently met with my staff at work, so
> I will write him directly and encourage my staff to as well.
> This is really stupid that we can't use the app without leaving all our
> typos.
> Richard
>
>
>
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Hi Mary and others,
>
>
>
> In connection with the discussion of the bug in the native mail app when
> replying to a thread, lend your voice to those of us who write to Microsoft
> asking them to fix an issue in Outlook which doesn’t allow Voiceover users
> to review/edit what they have written in the email body. If this were
> fixed, Outlook would be an excellent alternative to the native mail app and
> in my opinion it gives any other mail app whether accessible or not a run
> for its money.
>
>
>
> The problem is that if you write text in the message body field, Voiceover
> will read the entire text, but it only clicks when you try to navigate by
> characters, words or lines. As far as I can tell this is pretty much the
> only problem with Outlook, otherwise it is a very excellent mail app with
> way more features than the native mail app and it gets excellent reviews.
> Here is what it says in the app description:
>
>
>
> “The best email app for the iPhone.” - The Verge
>
>
>
> Meet Outlook for iOS, the app that helps millions of users connect all
> their email accounts, calendars and files in one convenient spot. Newly
> redesigned, Outlook for iOS lets you do more from one powerful inbox.
>
>
>
> See what matters most first with the Focused inbox that keeps the
> important messages on top. Switch between your emails and calendar to
> schedule your next meeting or share your availability with just a few taps.
> Or grab a document from your Files list and attach it to an email
> seamlessly.
>
>
>
> With everything you need only a tap away, managing your busy days is now
> easier than ever.
>
>
>
> Outlook for iOS works with Microsoft Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com
>  (including Hotmail and MSN), Gmail, Yahoo Mail, and
> iCloud.
>
> Outlook also connects to OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, Google Drive & Box so
> you can attach any file to an email without having to download it first to
> your mobile device.
>
> You can now protect your inbox with Touch ID and get the privacy you
> deserve. Keep your messages away from prying eyes by requiring your
> fingerprint or device passcode in order to access your Outlook account. To
> enable Touch ID, take a look at the app Settings under Preferences. (iOS 9
> users) Your inbox – and dare we say it, the world – is now at your
> fingertips.
>
>
>
> Anybody who wants to contact Microsoft and ask to have the bug fixed which
> prevents Voiceover users from reviewing/editing text in the email body
> character by character, word by word, line by line or by using cut, copy
> and paste, please install the Outlook app, add a mail account and then go
> to Settings (the bottom right tab), then tap on the first button at the top
> of the screen called “Help and Support”. Use the “Suggest a Feature” option
> instead of “Contact Support”. The reason for this becomes clear in the
> below thread. I had sent in a message using contact support and received a
> reply in about 13 minutes (impressive). This by the way is all fully
> accessible. Here is my message and the reply:
>
>
>
> Sieghard, 12-Mar-2016 04:38
>
> I am a blind user of an iPhone and I have previously sent in this
> feedback. I am really wondering when your development team is going to take
> the time to make the outlook app usable for Voiceover users. Microsoft has
> shown great commitment to excess ability with many other apps, and while
> the outlook app is fully accessible for reading emails it is impossible to
> compose emails. At this point it is not possible to type some text and then
> review or change it because Voiceover does not read back any text that has
> been written in the message body. This is effectively a deal-breaker. I
> would be happy to discuss further if my assis

UPGRADED 4S TO 9.3 AND WANTS A SIM!

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

I was a little annoyed yesterday when I'd upgraded my 4S to discover 
that it was asking for a sim to be inserted to complete the setup. This 
did not happen with previous iOS9 upgrades and I was, as a result, able 
to use the phone, without a sim, at least to take calls when in our 
home. Now I cannot do this unless I put a sim in it and it looks as 
though I have no option than to do so.


If anyone knows of a workaround, please, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks.

Carol P

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RE: Apps for Apple products?

[Ann Marie Medlar]

Hi all,

Any of you develop or write apps for IOS or Apple products?  

If so I am curious what computer language do you use to code?  

Thanks,

Ann

 

 

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Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

[Sherrie]

I have had the Edge for about 6 months and basically I like it. I use the 
loop and the ear hook, though since it does not feel really secure without 
them. If it falls out while you are away from home that is $95 down the 
drain and I am not willing to take that chance.   To set the Edge in the 
portable charger case you need to twist the loop so it is at the top and 
remove the hook. For this reason, I rarely use that charger. I just use a 
regular micro USB standard charger cord.
I do have a lot of trouble with the 6S not keeping all sound routed through 
the headset. Sometimes when I tap it to answer a call the call goes to the 
phone that is in my pocket and I have to dig it out. Siri and some VO 
functions switch back and forth from the phone speaker to the Edge with no 
rhyme or reason. I have the routing set to automatic.  It did not switch the 
sound back and forth between the earpiece and the phone for no reason on my 
old iPhone 5 running 8.something. I often click the Edge off when using 
dictation since it works much better talking into the phone.

So I like it, but it worked much better on my old phone.
Any advice welcome.
Sherrie


-Original Message- 
From: Merv Keck

Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an 
Edge?


There is a loop that you can use that will hold it in your ear but then it 
will not fit properly into the charging case. I don't know how it just stays 
in my ear and honestly it took some getting accustomed to the fear of it not 
just falling out while in the store. It is like an ear bud with a little 
black cylinder attached to it. How it just hangs there I don't know but I 
have only ever lost it out of my ear once. It fell into my shopping cart and 
I heard it land in the cart.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christina C.

Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an 
Edge?


So, does the edge just sit in your ear canal like an ear bud. I’m trying to 
imagine it. What prevents it from falling out. I can’t use ear buds because 
they constantly pop out or hurt my ears.


Thanks for any details. I’d really love to find a great ear peace

Christina

On Mar 21, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:

I tried both and returned the legend and kept the Edge.
The Legend felt way  bulky and a hassle to quickly put on. It  was like 
having a small transformer plastered on the side of my face. That and  the 
magnetic charging felt gimmicky.
Since the  Edge reverted to the traditional charging cable, I guess I 
wasn't the  only one who had the same impression about the magnetic 
charging design.
I prefer the sound  quality  on the Edge too. More a subjective aspect, 
but to me at least, the  Legend sounded more muffled. Especially with 
distortion at higher volume levels.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an 
Edge?


Hi,

Looking for advice inview of my several year old Plantronics Voyager 
Legend ending it's lifespan.


Wondering if I should get a replacement Voyager Legend or move on to a 
Plantronics Edge. Anyone who has tried both have advice? I have enjoyed 
the Legend.


Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: iphone se

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

you're right, this is variety/user choice, it is still the same version of the 
os,  well, not updating notwithstanding of course. I 
know I ankered after one of the big slab phones, but got over it.  MrsH is 
still a happy bunny with hers mind.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: iphone se


It sounds like you're thinking that what you call fragmentation is
somehow a bad thing, but I just don't see it. First, I don't consider
this fragmentation. In my mind, fragmentation is what you have in the
Android or Windows ecosystems where you have multiple manufacturers able
to customize the operating system or provide their own device drivers or
hardware support. This leads to updates on various schedules, different
experiences for accessibility and so on. I just don't see that with
Apple supporting multiple form factors with different features, which
they have for years already anyway. Everyone will still get updates on
the same time, the user experience will be the same except for
differences in the performance and features of the hardware and
customers will have another option in form factor and price. Other than
people having to let us know what device they're running on, which they
already have to do, I just don't see a down side to what you're calling
fragmentation.

BTW, even in the Android ecosystem, I don't consider fragmentation to be
evil. It has it's down sides, like the ones I mentioned above, but it
also has it upsides, such as multiple form factors, lower price points
and so on.

On 22/03/16 13:03, Robin wrote:
> NoMatter WhichWay you LookAtIt, Apple has sanctioned Fragmentation InTo
> its LineUp with TheRelease of its ForthComing/UpComing Apple iPhoneSE
> (PrimarilyBecause it Lacks 3DTouch)
>
> I know others ON ThisList may PointTo TheFact that Fragmentation Existed
> PriorTo this, but I don't recall a Apple product, which appeared to have
> the SameSpecs being Denied a Feature WithTheExceptionOf the
> iPhone6&iPhone6+
>
> I mean the Rumored iPhoneSE will have MoreAdvanced Specs than its Larger
> iPhone6&iPhone6+
>
> And,  Size shouldn't matter as I recall the MacBook, which was recently
> Released LastYear featured 3DTouch & its TrackPad wasn't equivalent to
> that of the iPhone6S&iPhone6S+
> At 10:29 AM 3/22/2016, you wrote:
>> Ok, the blurb does not mention 3g touch, so can reasonably assume it
>> doesn't have it.  But shock/horror/gasp!  this is entry-level
>> pricing coming in less then the previous generations of 6. UK,
>> £359/439 for 16/64Gb versions respectively.  Very clever move.  Touch
>> Id and Apple pay are all there though; everything the 6S has,  except
>> 3G touch really.
>>
>> I'm seriously impressed.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Larry Lumpkin" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:49 PM
>> Subject: RE: iphone se
>>
>>
>> Yes I was, smile.  Guess I’ll wait until the next phone comes out
>> and see what it’s like.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>>
>>
>>
>> So you were looking for something in the form factor of the fives that
>> has threed touch? You may be waiting a while. Quite a while.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Larry Lumpkin >  > wrote:
>>
>> I’m disappointed there’s no 3d touch.  That’s a sho stopper for
>> me.  I’ll just keep my 5s awhile longer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: iphone se
>>
>>
>>
>> No, it has everything the 6S has, same processor, same camera, but no
>> 3D touch and also it seems there is just the 16 Gb and 64Gb
>> model, no 128 Gb model.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't seen it official anywhere, but I have seen absolutely no
>> references to it, not from Apple, and not in the mainstream
>> Twitter feed I was following this morning. So I would say no it does
>> not have 3-D touch. This is the phone I would've bought last
>> fall had it come out at that time. It's perfect. Nice and small. And I
>> don't use the 3-D all that much anyway.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Larry Lumpkin >  > wrote:
>>
>> I haven’t seen anywhere whether or not the SE has 3D touch.  Anyone
>> know?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> The following information is imp

Re: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which would be a game changer

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Sieghard,

Does this mean that you can actually set up a GMAIL account to work with 
Outlook.com software then? (Sorry, I'm not quite clear from your 
response here ...)


In addition, does the Outlook app allow you to delete threads and/or a 
group of messages easily?


What else do you particularly like over the native email app?

Carol P


On 23/03/2016 13:13, Richard Turner wrote:


Well, I tried.
After writing a lengthy note using MBraille in the suggest a feature 
section of the Outlook app, it couldn't post my message.
I also tried to reply to this message from the Outlook app, but I'm 
not seeing the reply.
I discovered that you can edit your emails if you use MBraille when 
composing.
The head of Microsoft Accessibility recently met with my staff at 
work, so I will write him directly and encourage my staff to as well.
This is really stupid that we can't use the app without leaving all 
our typos.

Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > wrote:



Hi Mary and others,

In connection with the discussion of the bug in the native mail app 
when replying to a thread, lend your voice to those of us who write 
to Microsoft asking them to fix an issue in Outlook which doesn’t 
allow Voiceover users to review/edit what they have written in the 
email body. If this were fixed, Outlook would be an excellent 
alternative to the native mail app and in my opinion it gives any 
other mail app whether accessible or not a run for its money.


The problem is that if you write text in the message body field, 
Voiceover will read the entire text, but it only clicks when you try 
to navigate by characters, words or lines. As far as I can tell this 
is pretty much the only problem with Outlook, otherwise it is a very 
excellent mail app with way more features than the native mail app 
and it gets excellent reviews. Here is what it says in the app 
description:


“The best email app for the iPhone.” - The Verge

Meet Outlook for iOS, the app that helps millions of users connect 
all their email accounts, calendars and files in one convenient spot. 
Newly redesigned, Outlook for iOS lets you do more from one powerful 
inbox.


See what matters most first with the Focused inbox that keeps the 
important messages on top. Switch between your emails and calendar to 
schedule your next meeting or share your availability with just a few 
taps. Or grab a document from your Files list and attach it to an 
email seamlessly.


With everything you need only a tap away, managing your busy days is 
now easier than ever.


Outlook for iOS works with Microsoft Exchange, Office 365, 
Outlook.com  (including Hotmail and MSN), Gmail, 
Yahoo Mail, and iCloud.


Outlook also connects to OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, Google Drive & 
Box so you can attach any file to an email without having to download 
it first to your mobile device.


You can now protect your inbox with Touch ID and get the privacy you 
deserve. Keep your messages away from prying eyes by requiring your 
fingerprint or device passcode in order to access your Outlook 
account. To enable Touch ID, take a look at the app Settings under 
Preferences. (iOS 9 users) Your inbox – and dare we say it, the world 
– is now at your fingertips.


Anybody who wants to contact Microsoft and ask to have the bug fixed 
which prevents Voiceover users from reviewing/editing text in the 
email body character by character, word by word, line by line or by 
using cut, copy and paste, please install the Outlook app, add a mail 
account and then go to Settings (the bottom right tab), then tap on 
the first button at the top of the screen called “Help and Support”. 
Use the “Suggest a Feature” option instead of “Contact Support”. The 
reason for this becomes clear in the below thread. I had sent in a 
message using contact support and received a reply in about 13 
minutes (impressive). This by the way is all fully accessible. Here 
is my message and the reply:


Sieghard, 12-Mar-2016 04:38

I am a blind user of an iPhone and I have previously sent in this 
feedback. I am really wondering when your development team is going 
to take the time to make the outlook app usable for Voiceover users. 
Microsoft has shown great commitment to excess ability with many 
other apps, and while the outlook app is fully accessible for reading 
emails it is impossible to compose emails. At this point it is not 
possible to type some text and then review or change it because 
Voiceover does not read back any text that has been written in the 
message body. This is effectively a deal-breaker. I would be happy to 
discuss further if my assistance would be of help, but the issue is 
really easy to reproduce if voiceover is turned on and you write some 
text in the email message body and then try to review it either by 
character or word. It is great to see all these new features are 
getting at it, but it is very frustrating that as

RE: iphone se

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hmm, but in order to double tap anywhere to open an app you have to first touch 
the app and when you touch the app you already have your finger in the right 
place to press and invoke the 3D touch menu.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ronald van Rhijn
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se

 

I never use 3D Touch. Of course its all new and we need to get used to it. My 
biggest problem with it in terms of time saving is concerned is you have to put 
your finger on the exact location of the app you want to perform the 3D action 
on. Personnally I swipe alot to get to the desired app and then double tapping 
somewhere on the screen to open. So by the time I find the exact location of 
some apps, I already opened it with swiping and double tapping anywhere on the 
screen.

No doubt more and better usage of 3D Touch will come.

 

Ronald

 

 

Op 23 mrt. 2016, om 08:32 heeft Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > het volgende geschreven:

 

Hi Kevin,

 

It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean by 
“it’s not discoverable”, but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch options are 
available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in certain situations. For 
example, using it with the App Store app if I want to search for an app. 
Instead of double tapping on the app, then double tapping on the search tab at 
the bottom and then finding the search edit field at the top left and double 
tapping on it to put focus in it and bring up the keyboard, I just press down 
on the App Store icon on the home screen, do a quick swipe right (that puts me 
on the “Search” option in the menu, then I do a quick double tap and bingo, 
focus is already in the search box with the keyboard on the screen waiting for 
me to type my search term.

Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or my 
manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a couple of 
times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the context menu 
(they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app with useful 
functions in the context menu is the Camera app.

 

These are just a few examples, I’m sure in time Apple will figure out more ways 
to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably depends on 
you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to keep in mind 
that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications which we as blind 
users may not be able to use.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com[ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Chao
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se

 

3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of where 
it can be used or where it works. 

it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting with 
it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below £100 as 
a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
Talks on even now. I still have some.

The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of those 
for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish
stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <  siegh...@live.ca>
To: <  viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: iphone se


Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. But 
there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a free 
phone on contract or for what I consider not an
unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a used 5S 
on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I also 
still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
probably should have done so before this came out.





Regards,

Sieghard



From:   viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto: 
 viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ronald 
van Rhijn
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se



Well, I assume you don’t understand Dutch, so giving you the link to the 
article won’t benefit you. The article was published today
on a well respected Dutch Apple news site called:   
iCulture.nl < 

Re: iOS 9.3, Apple Music and iTunes Match

[Wayne Merritt]

Thanks all for the input. An update on my situation. Someone at work
told me to sign out and then back in to my account, which I did. I
have also turned off iCloud Library in Settings, and for covering
bases, also turned off Apple Music and then back on. No change. Grant,
thanks for your ideas and suggestions. I haven't really used Time
Machine on my Mac yet but this situation gives me a good reason too. I
have made a Genius Bar appointment at my local Apple Store this
Saturday to try and sort everything out. Since I did not find my music
on the Mac, which was very disappointing, I'm beginning to think that
I will have to establish my library and collection all over again. A
tedius process to be sure. I have wondered during this process if one
of the changes in iOS 9.3 might have caused part of the issue. I
recall reading an article in January, which was widely circulated by
the way, about the 9.3 beta. It said that Apple would be giving people
more control over their music so that they did not have to use iTunes
to manage music as much. I'm wondering if in the process of enabling
this control, my entire library was mistakenly zapped. Anyway, that
will be one of many questions that I ask the Apple Genius, along with
what the point is of having iTunes Match if my music disappeared or
will disappear after 6 months. I do have a few albums which I cannot
find on Apple Music, but if I can keep a copy of the music on my Mac
and carry that with me from phone to phone, then that might serve my
purposes. With Apple Music turned back on, I can at least stream
albums and currated playlists from Apple, which is tiding me over for
now. Though I miss the vast collection. I have started to look into
Google Play Music as an alternative, but the one big thing that Google
doesn't have which Apple Music excells in are the curated playlists,
such as "intro to," "deep cuts from," and so forth.

Sincerely,
Wayne

On 3/23/16, Brett  wrote:
>
> Yes, its pretty much duplication these days. The only reason you would want
> it these days is if you have music that cannot be found on Apple music, if
> you iTumes match it you can stream it on any of your iDevices. It is also a
> good way to ucgrade dodgy music to better quality, but that's less necessary
> these days with streaming services offering simelar quality.
>
> Cheers,
> Brett.
>
>
> Sent from Brett's iPhone
>
>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 2:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> I don't have an answer, but just out of curiocity, if you subscribe to
>> Apple Music isn't subscribing to iTunes Match duplication?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:16 AM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: iOS 9.3, Apple Music and iTunes Match
>>
>> Greetings all. I updated my iPhone 6S to iOS 9.3 last night. Last fall I
>> had signed up for iTunes Match in order to keep all my songs in a digital
>> locker in the cloud and take with me to future phones. I've done several
>> iOS updates since then without a problem. Last night though, to my utter
>> shock, nearly all of the 4,200 songs in my collection, along with the
>> around 800 songs that I have added to playlists from Apple Music, had
>> disappeared. Over the last few months, I have setup several playlists for
>> different things, like love songs, worship music, Christmas music, and
>> "all songs" which has everything in my collection. It was quite a shock to
>> see the All Songs playlist go from around 4,200 songs to 139 songs, or the
>> Hard and Heavy playlist go from 330 songs to just 2 songs. I've got the
>> 4,200 songs on an external drive, but not the Apple Music that I've saved.
>> I've spent a long time tediously deleting what I don't want from my
>> collection and don't look forward to doing it all over again. Short of
>> doing a complete restore, does anyone have any ideas how I can get my
>> music back from iTunes Match? I'm not sure if this is specific to iTunes
>> Match or Apple Music since I subscribe to both. Whatever the case, it is
>> extremely frustrating and makes me wonder if iTunes Match is worth the
>> time, especially if the songs are going to suddenly disappear after 5 or 6
>> months.
>>
>> On a related note, does anyone use Google Play Music and if so how do you
>> like it? What do you like and not like about Play Music? It looks similar
>> to the Apple offerings, except that with Play Music, you can store up to
>> 50,000 songs for free. That alone is tempting.
>>
>> Best,
>> Wayne
>>
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RE: FaceTime podcast

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

 

You can check Applevis, but it would be a pretty short Podcast as there isn’t a 
lot to it. First of all, make sure you have it turned on in Settings > 
Facetime. There you can also add your Apple Id or any other additional emails 
you might want to use. Since Facetime is available on devices like the iPad or 
iPod Touch, and I’m pretty sure you have an iPad, I highly recommend you add at 
least your Apple Id so you can also use your iPad to make and receive Facetime 
calls.

 

The other prerequesit is that the person you want to do a Facetime call with 
also must have an iOS device and Facetime must be enabled. If that is the case 
you can initiate a Facetime Audio only call or a regular Facetime call which 
includes video.

 

It is easiest from the contacts. When you double tap on a contact you can swipe 
right through the entry and after the phone number/numbers you find a Facetime 
headingand then buttons for Facetime Audio and Facetime. Tap either one and it 
should start ringing. If somebody calls you it’s like receiving a phone call 
and you can do a 2-finger doble tap to answer or find the “Accept” button and 
tap it.

 

If you call somebody with video, you have a Camera button on the screen. By 
default 
Facetime uses the front facing camera so it points to you. The Camera button is 
a toggle so if you want to show something to somebody and use the back camera, 
just double tap on the camera button. If the call has already connected the 
video maybe full screen, if that is the case (if there is no End Call or Camera 
button) you can just double tap anywhere on the screen and the buttons will 
become visible

 

 

 

Once configured  for 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FaceTime podcast

 

Hello list

Is there a podcast explaining how FaceTime works?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Re: 9.3 so far

[Russ Kiehne]

I'm blind.  I was just wondering why it wasn't on my ipod touch.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 9.3 so far

Russ,

Are you visually impaired with usable vision or completely blind? Just 
asking because Nightshift is not really a feature that makes a difference to 
a blind person.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 9.3 so far

Thanks, that also means my first generation ipad mini won't support it.  It 
looks like it's time to upgrade to a newer device.


-Original Message-
From: Mário Navarro
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 9.3 so far



hi.

the night shift mode is only available for 64bites processor.


cheers.

Às 13:55 de 22/03/2016, Russ Kiehne escreveu:

I upgraded to 9.3 on my 5th generation ipod touch.  I don't seem to find
night shift mode?

-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 9.3 so far

Greetings,
Well, the 9.3 update went much more smoothly than I expected.
VoiceOver seems more responsive.
So far, all is working well with one little exception.
I do not care for the sound of Samantha, either default or enhanced on my
5s.
She sounds more muffled than usual.
Where as, the Siri Male US voice seems better and more responsive than it
was before.
I can confirm that we now can indeed leave reviews in the app store.
So far, I've not found any real problems.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)



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RE: The audible App for iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Andrew,

No, I have never noticed that books get deleted automatically after a certain 
period of time or during an update of the app or, for that matter, during an 
iOS app update. If you at some point deleted the app and then reinstalled it 
that would definitely get rid of books, hard to say what may have caused this.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Andrew Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The audible App for iPhone

Hi,

I haven't used the Audible app on my iPhone for a while for various reasons.  
However I know there were books on the device.

However this morning, when opening the app (which has been recently updated) 
there would appear to be no books actually on the device - the only books I can 
see are the ones I have in the cloud.  I double tapped on a book that I knew 
should already be on the device and instead of playing it it has started to 
download the book.  Does anyone know whether the app automatically deletes 
books after a period of no or little use or whether they are deleted when the 
app updates?

Thanks for your help,

Andrew 


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Re: Help to ask Microsoft to fix one bug in the Outlook iOS app which would be a game changer

[Richard Turner]

Well, I tried.
After writing a lengthy note using MBraille in the suggest a feature section of 
the Outlook app, it couldn't post my message.
I also tried to reply to this message from the Outlook app, but I'm not seeing 
the reply.
I discovered that you can edit your emails if you use MBraille when composing.
The head of Microsoft Accessibility recently met with my staff at work, so I 
will write him directly and encourage my staff to as well.
This is really stupid that we can't use the app without leaving all our typos.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and others,
>  
> In connection with the discussion of the bug in the native mail app when 
> replying to a thread, lend your voice to those of us who write to Microsoft 
> asking them to fix an issue in Outlook which doesn’t allow Voiceover users to 
> review/edit what they have written in the email body. If this were fixed, 
> Outlook would be an excellent alternative to the native mail app and in my 
> opinion it gives any other mail app whether accessible or not a run for its 
> money.
>  
> The problem is that if you write text in the message body field, Voiceover 
> will read the entire text, but it only clicks when you try to navigate by 
> characters, words or lines. As far as I can tell this is pretty much the only 
> problem with Outlook, otherwise it is a very excellent mail app with way more 
> features than the native mail app and it gets excellent reviews. Here is what 
> it says in the app description:
>  
> “The best email app for the iPhone.” - The Verge
>  
> Meet Outlook for iOS, the app that helps millions of users connect all their 
> email accounts, calendars and files in one convenient spot. Newly redesigned, 
> Outlook for iOS lets you do more from one powerful inbox.
>  
> See what matters most first with the Focused inbox that keeps the important 
> messages on top. Switch between your emails and calendar to schedule your 
> next meeting or share your availability with just a few taps. Or grab a 
> document from your Files list and attach it to an email seamlessly.
>  
> With everything you need only a tap away, managing your busy days is now 
> easier than ever.
>  
> Outlook for iOS works with Microsoft Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com 
> (including Hotmail and MSN), Gmail, Yahoo Mail, and iCloud.
> Outlook also connects to OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, Google Drive & Box so you 
> can attach any file to an email without having to download it first to your 
> mobile device.
> You can now protect your inbox with Touch ID and get the privacy you deserve. 
> Keep your messages away from prying eyes by requiring your fingerprint or 
> device passcode in order to access your Outlook account. To enable Touch ID, 
> take a look at the app Settings under Preferences. (iOS 9 users) Your inbox – 
> and dare we say it, the world – is now at your fingertips.
>  
> Anybody who wants to contact Microsoft and ask to have the bug fixed which 
> prevents Voiceover users from reviewing/editing text in the email body 
> character by character, word by word, line by line or by using cut, copy and 
> paste, please install the Outlook app, add a mail account and then go to 
> Settings (the bottom right tab), then tap on the first button at the top of 
> the screen called “Help and Support”. Use the “Suggest a Feature” option 
> instead of “Contact Support”. The reason for this becomes clear in the below 
> thread. I had sent in a message using contact support and received a reply in 
> about 13 minutes (impressive). This by the way is all fully accessible. Here 
> is my message and the reply:
>  
> Sieghard, 12-Mar-2016 04:38
> I am a blind user of an iPhone and I have previously sent in this feedback. I 
> am really wondering when your development team is going to take the time to 
> make the outlook app usable for Voiceover users. Microsoft has shown great 
> commitment to excess ability with many other apps, and while the outlook app 
> is fully accessible for reading emails it is impossible to compose emails. At 
> this point it is not possible to type some text and then review or change it 
> because Voiceover does not read back any text that has been written in the 
> message body. This is effectively a deal-breaker. I would be happy to discuss 
> further if my assistance would be of help, but the issue is really easy to 
> reproduce if voiceover is turned on and you write some text in the email 
> message body and then try to review it either by character or word. It is 
> great to see all these new features are getting at it, but it is very 
> frustrating that as a blind user I am not able to use the app. This feedback 
> has also been submitted by other blind iPhone users who would love to use the 
> Outlook mail app and I really hope this can be fixed soon.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> Joyce - T1 Support, 12-Mar-2016 04:51
>  
> Hi, Sieghar

Re: iphone se

[Ronald van Rhijn]

I never use 3D Touch. Of course its all new and we need to get used to it. My 
biggest problem with it in terms of time saving is concerned is you have to put 
your finger on the exact location of the app you want to perform the 3D action 
on. Personnally I swipe alot to get to the desired app and then double tapping 
somewhere on the screen to open. So by the time I find the exact location of 
some apps, I already opened it with swiping and double tapping anywhere on the 
screen.
No doubt more and better usage of 3D Touch will come.

Ronald


> Op 23 mrt. 2016, om 08:32 heeft Sieghard Weitzel  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Kevin,
>  
> It is new and something to learn/get used to. I am not sure what you mean by 
> “it’s not discoverable”, but I find it easy to check if 3D Touch options are 
> available and have gotten quite comfortable using it in certain situations. 
> For example, using it with the App Store app if I want to search for an app. 
> Instead of double tapping on the app, then double tapping on the search tab 
> at the bottom and then finding the search edit field at the top left and 
> double tapping on it to put focus in it and bring up the keyboard, I just 
> press down on the App Store icon on the home screen, do a quick swipe right 
> (that puts me on the “Search” option in the menu, then I do a quick double 
> tap and bingo, focus is already in the search box with the keyboard on the 
> screen waiting for me to type my search term.
> Another example is the Phone app. If I want to call my wife, my office or my 
> manager on his mobile, I just press down on the phone app, swipe a couple of 
> times and double tap on one of the 3 names that are part of the context menu 
> (they are the first 3 in your Favorites list). Another app with useful 
> functions in the context menu is the Camera app.
>  
> These are just a few examples, I’m sure in time Apple will figure out more 
> ways to make this useful and as far as it being natural or not probably 
> depends on you. Eventually everything becomes muscle memory and we have to 
> keep in mind that 3D Touch for sighted people has many more applications 
> which we as blind users may not be able to use.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: iphone se
>  
> 3D touch isn't that useful. It's not discoverable and there is no hint of 
> where it can be used or where it works. 
> it's not really natural, and most of the time: i end up just interacting with 
> it as if 3D touch were not even present...It ends up being faster.
>  
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:01 PM 'RobH.' via VIPhone  > wrote:
>> The 5S's are around £150 or less on the trade lists. 4S are well below £100 
>> as a starter phone. Folks still sell old Nokias with
>> Talks on even now. I still have some.
>> 
>> The SE is about the one I'd buy new, or the 6+ 2nd hand.  mrsH got one of 
>> those for under £300 from somewhere, new, all be it oldish
>> stock. Buti ntact with warrantee.
>> 
>> BobH.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:54 PM
>> Subject: RE: iphone se
>> 
>> 
>> Exactly, I am sure iFixIt will have all the hidden secrets out in no time. 
>> But there are still a lot of iPhone 5/5C and even 4S and
>> 4 out there and for these customers this will be a very nice upgrade as a 
>> free phone on contract or for what I consider not an
>> unreasonable price unlocked. I remember somebody recently advertised a used 
>> 5S on the list in the UK and I think he was asking 300
>> Pounds, probably not too realistic given the price of the iPhone SE. I also 
>> still have my 5S 64 Gb which I was planning to sell,
>> probably should have done so before this came out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Ronald van Rhijn
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: iphone se
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, I assume you don’t understand Dutch, so giving you the link to the 
>> article won’t benefit you. The article was published today
>> on a well respected Dutch Apple news site called: iCulture.nl 
>>  > . 
>> Unfortunately they don’t mention any sources
>> from which they got the detailed information. They only refer to a person 
>> who made the list, or something. the link to this person
>> is to Twitter.
>> 
>> Another feature the SE misses is the barometric

Re: best twitter app????

[Penny Reeder]

I like Twitterific, too. It's intuitive!

For the PC, I really like Easychirp.
Penny

On 3/23/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have been a Twitterrific user for some years now, and I really like it. I
> know a lot of people seem to like tweetings, and I have never used it. So I
> cannot compare the two. But for me, Twitterrific is great.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:01 AM, Gianni  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, What is the best twitter app for us? I have an iphone 6plus.
>>
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>> Gianni
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>> Skype: giannijuve
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Re: Pass word protecting a note

[Richard Turner]

Christopher and others
I think the only way to lock a note is to double tap on share after you've 
finished a note and double tapped done.
Then, if you have a device with fingerprint capability, when you double tap 
lock note, you can opt to use your fingerprint, or a password, to lock your 
notes.
After you use your fingerprint, or enter a password, you will find a button 
that says "unlocked." Double tap that and the note will become locked.
It seems rather convoluted to have to go to share a note before locking it, but 
that is the only way I've found.
Richard



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> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:32 AM, christopher hallsworth 
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> THere might be a quicker way, but I discovered this by first double tapping 
> on share note once a note is open, then you will see a new item "lock note".
>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 01:45, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone, I have tried to pass word protect a note.  I was able to set 
>> up the pass word, and then confirm the pass word, but, I can't figure out 
>> how to lock it.  I'm sure it is something simple, that I am missing. Thanks 
>> in advance.
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Re: How do you force restore an iPad after a failed upgrade?

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If you have iTunes on your PC or Mac, you can follow the instructions at 
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/wipe-ipad-factory-settings-passcode-55572.html 
to recover your iPad. I've had to do this several times when I've had 
failed installs on my iPhone.


On 23/03/16 06:51, Cris Ali wrote:

Hello folks,

The subject says it all.  I have a failed upgrade of an iPad two.  I am
now in a vicious circle.  When I start the iPad I get a message telling
me that I have few more steps to complete the upgrade. When I tap on
continue it asks me to wait then I get the message that the attempts
failed.  I did a hard reset by pressing the power together with the home
key for ten seconds to no avail.  I need to know the sequence of having
a forced restore to come out of this vicious circle.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: Send mail with voiceover bug still present

[Christopher Chaltain]

It's not a 4S issue. Sure the 4S isn't going to be as snappy as a 6, but 
if the thread is long enough then you'll see this hang on any device. 
Besides, the 4S has gotten snappier with updates to IOS since one of the 
middling IOS 8 releases, so it isn't true that subsequent updates will 
automatically make your 4S more sluggish.


On 23/03/16 02:56, Simon w wrote:

Since I updated, there hasn't been much sluggishness, except that hanging issue 
with the mail.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:34 AM, kimmie parutu  wrote:

I dare say it would be, because your 4S would probably be very sluggish with 
each update.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon w
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 7:37 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Send mail with voiceover bug still present

I reported this to Apple, they claim it was my phone, 4s.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2016, at 11:40 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
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Second test.

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On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

So if you are replying to a thread that has a few messages in it, you 
experience no delay from when you hit the send button too when voiceover 
responds? That is indeed fascinating.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

No bug for me on my iPhone6s witb ios 9.3

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On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I would like to urge everyone who is experiencing this problem to write to 
Apple accessibility explaining the problem in sufficient detail. I know I have 
done that I'm sure others have. But they still haven't fixed it. So if each one 
of us rights, maybe we will eventually get through to them that this is not an 
isolated problem, is not device dependent and is, in fact, easily repeatable.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:

Yep, you were right. As soon as I hit Send on my last post, VO went silent for 
about 30 seconds.  Jeez, why can't Apple fix that one? Hmmm.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:

Okay, I'll put this to the test.  Here goes...

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2016, at 3:44 PM, rajmund  wrote:

No, if the email is small, it will not kill voice over.  Respond to this one, 
and I'm certain it will die.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner , Apple  wrote:


In iOS 9.3, the VoiceOver hang after sending an email is still present.
I have confirmed this by sending several messages on both my iPhone 5s and my 
iPod Touch 6th generation.
I am glad though that one other major VoiceOver bug has been fixed, that of not 
being able to leave reviews in the app store.  It is nice being able to leave 
reviews again after so long.
This message is going to both Apple Accessibility and the VIPhone users list.
Richard



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Re: iphone se

[Christopher Chaltain]

It sounds like you're thinking that what you call fragmentation is 
somehow a bad thing, but I just don't see it. First, I don't consider 
this fragmentation. In my mind, fragmentation is what you have in the 
Android or Windows ecosystems where you have multiple manufacturers able 
to customize the operating system or provide their own device drivers or 
hardware support. This leads to updates on various schedules, different 
experiences for accessibility and so on. I just don't see that with 
Apple supporting multiple form factors with different features, which 
they have for years already anyway. Everyone will still get updates on 
the same time, the user experience will be the same except for 
differences in the performance and features of the hardware and 
customers will have another option in form factor and price. Other than 
people having to let us know what device they're running on, which they 
already have to do, I just don't see a down side to what you're calling 
fragmentation.


BTW, even in the Android ecosystem, I don't consider fragmentation to be 
evil. It has it's down sides, like the ones I mentioned above, but it 
also has it upsides, such as multiple form factors, lower price points 
and so on.


On 22/03/16 13:03, Robin wrote:

NoMatter WhichWay you LookAtIt, Apple has sanctioned Fragmentation InTo
its LineUp with TheRelease of its ForthComing/UpComing Apple iPhoneSE
(PrimarilyBecause it Lacks 3DTouch)

I know others ON ThisList may PointTo TheFact that Fragmentation Existed
PriorTo this, but I don't recall a Apple product, which appeared to have
the SameSpecs being Denied a Feature WithTheExceptionOf the
iPhone6&iPhone6+

I mean the Rumored iPhoneSE will have MoreAdvanced Specs than its Larger
iPhone6&iPhone6+

And,  Size shouldn't matter as I recall the MacBook, which was recently
Released LastYear featured 3DTouch & its TrackPad wasn't equivalent to
that of the iPhone6S&iPhone6S+
At 10:29 AM 3/22/2016, you wrote:

Ok, the blurb does not mention 3g touch, so can reasonably assume it
doesn't have it.  But shock/horror/gasp!  this is entry-level
pricing coming in less then the previous generations of 6. UK,
£359/439 for 16/64Gb versions respectively.  Very clever move.  Touch
Id and Apple pay are all there though; everything the 6S has,  except
3G touch really.

I'm seriously impressed.

- Original Message -
From: "Larry Lumpkin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: iphone se


Yes I was, smile.  Guess I’ll wait until the next phone comes out
and see what it’s like.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone se



So you were looking for something in the form factor of the fives that
has threed touch? You may be waiting a while. Quite a while.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 21, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

I’m disappointed there’s no 3d touch.  That’s a sho stopper for
me.  I’ll just keep my 5s awhile longer.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iphone se



No, it has everything the 6S has, same processor, same camera, but no
3D touch and also it seems there is just the 16 Gb and 64Gb
model, no 128 Gb model.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iphone se



I haven't seen it official anywhere, but I have seen absolutely no
references to it, not from Apple, and not in the mainstream
Twitter feed I was following this morning. So I would say no it does
not have 3-D touch. This is the phone I would've bought last
fall had it come out at that time. It's perfect. Nice and small. And I
don't use the 3-D all that much anyway.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 21, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

I haven’t seen anywhere whether or not the SE has 3D touch.  Anyone
know?



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