Re: How in the world does anyone use Ok Google on an iPhone

[Arnold Schmidt]

It may be a little more trouble, but simply use the three-finger double tap to 
turn speech off just before you say hey google, then turn it back on afterward. 
This cancel button pronouncement has been going on for a while now, I am long 
since use to it. My problem is that, maybe 25 percent of the time, hey google 
doesn't trigger anything at all, and I have to turn speech on, find the voice 
search button, and tap it, to do my search. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Every time I say ok google the stupid google app says cancel and puts the word 
in to any search query therefore making the app useless to a VoiceOVer user. 
Would love to hear why people love this app and how they use it? If I have to 
turn VO off every time to use it then it is useless.

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Re: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

I am also not happy with my iPhone for this reason. I am using my
android for this purpose though.

On 8/6/16, Jerry White  wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who has responded to my inquiry!  I thought I had tried
> the MP3 zipped file into VDR, but will try it again.  I do use Bard on the
> phone, and do buy audible books but have collected many hundreds of mp3
> formatted books and want to re-read some of them.
>
>
>
> Thank you all so much!!  I will let you know how it goes with VDR…
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 5:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6
>
>
>
> Jerry,
>
>
>
> I'd agree with Sieghard that if you have mp3 audiobooks you're wanting to
> get on your iPhone, Voice Dream Reader and Dropbox are the easiest solution.
> You can copy the zipped mp3 books into an appropriate Dropbox folder on your
> computer and easily add them to Voice Dream using the app.
>
>
>
> I don't know if you're a US citizen but if you are, the BARD Mobile app is
> excellent for getting books from the NLS BARD service provided you are a
> citizen and have established a BARD account.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jerry White
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6
>
>
>
> Good afternoon everyone!
>
>
>
> I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio
> books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could
> mount the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the
> JTunes scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there
> either!  If anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my
> Windows 7 PC, I would be very grateful!
>
>
>
> I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I
> guess I can try that…  please send any ideas you have!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry
>
>
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RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Jerry White]

Thanks to everyone who has responded to my inquiry!  I thought I had tried the 
MP3 zipped file into VDR, but will try it again.  I do use Bard on the phone, 
and do buy audible books but have collected many hundreds of mp3 formatted 
books and want to re-read some of them.

 

Thank you all so much!!  I will let you know how it goes with VDR…

 

Jerry

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

 

Jerry,

 

I'd agree with Sieghard that if you have mp3 audiobooks you're wanting to get 
on your iPhone, Voice Dream Reader and Dropbox are the easiest solution. You 
can copy the zipped mp3 books into an appropriate Dropbox folder on your 
computer and easily add them to Voice Dream using the app.

 

I don't know if you're a US citizen but if you are, the BARD Mobile app is 
excellent for getting books from the NLS BARD service provided you are a 
citizen and have established a BARD account.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

 

Good afternoon everyone!

 

I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio 
books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could mount 
the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the JTunes 
scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there either!  If 
anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my Windows 7 PC, 
I would be very grateful!

 

I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I guess 
I can try that…  please send any ideas you have!

 

Thanks,

Jerry

 

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Re: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[kg7fa2]

Hi Jerry, if you get the Voice Dream Reader app, and have dropbox, you
can easily use dropbox to put .ZIP files into Voice Dream
reader, and then have all of the benifits of reading them on the phone,
just like the BARD app.  You can even speed up or slow down the rate of
speech and it works wonderfully.  The Voice Dream Reader costs $10, but
is well worth it!

Have a good one:

John
  


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Re: Scales and app to track weight

[MamaPeach]

I just started using the FitBit app and it is great. I did have trouble during 
the initial set up, such as adding my weight and height, but I was able to go 
change all of that once I got it all set up. So far, I am loving it. The food 
data base isn’t as large as some other apps that I have used, but it is very 
simple to just add things manually. I haven’t tried scanning any products yet 
though, just entered them in myself. I will use this one until My Fitness Pal 
gets their app working properly.

From: Lois Butterfield 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Scales and app to track weight

Hi Jonathan,

I looked at your blog post about the scales.

I have been very happy with my FitBit Aria scale for years.  I was able to set 
it up myself via the FitBit app, which is quite accessible.

I have the app because I have been using their step counters also for years 
because my Apple watch doesn’t count steps at all when holding onto the 
treadmill rail.  I walk and run a lot and want credit for those steps as well. 

If you don’t use a treadmill at all, this probably won’t make a difference, but 
it is amazing to look at the health app and see how few steps I get credit for.

I step on the scale and count to five.  That’s all the time it takes to get my 
weight and body fat calculated.

This is just some things one might want to consider when choosing which scale 
and which app to use.

I’m glad to know how the WiThing works.  I hope it becomes more accessible in 
the near future.

Take care,
Lois


From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Scales and app to track weight

Hi peter, this blog post on my experiences finding something that worked well 
may be helpful. 

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

  On 17/07/2016, at 5:36 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:

  Does anyone know of a BT scale that will communicate with the IPhone and 
update the Health app?

  Sent from my iPhone

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jewel]

Thanks Sieghard!  Everything else was acknowledge:  send to:  and price, but I 
don't recall seeing a 
"Place order" button;  however,  I will have a further hunt for those words.

   Jewel

Jewel

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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 7:46 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: amazon app, major bug

Hi Jed,

I usually do my Amazon orders on the PC, but I used to have the app so I 
redownloaded it, logged in 
and added an item to my cart. I double tapped on "Proceed to Checkout" and on 
the next screen it 
went straight to where it gave me my order summary with my default address and 
I just had the "Place 
Order" button at the top. Since I didn't actually want to order anything just 
now I didn't tap that, 
but I did tap on my name in the address and that brought up a screen which 
showed a couple of other 
shipping addresses I have used over the years. Under my address was the "Use 
this address" btton and 
when I double tapped on it I was back at the final screen with the "Place 
Order" button.
Not sure why this doesn't work for you, but it seems to be fine here just same 
as what Lois said.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on 
the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped on a button that had 
my town as a link. 
After that, I could swipe to the add to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can anyone 
try it to see if they 
are having the same problem?  Where it appears to get stuck, it says ship to 
this address button.  I 
double tap on it, and you can't get any further.  Can you guys run some tests 
to see if the same 
thing happens?

On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering
> locations of buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button.
> Or, what I would probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order 
> from there.
> That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is
> nothing great. The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site
> is really pretty good in my opinion.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order
>> with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
>> I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio
>> button checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to
>> this address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere
>> further, it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the
>> button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same
>> problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any 
>> ideas?
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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jewel]

I, too, will be very interested in a reply as I am having the identical problem.
It is years since I shopped at Amazon, but I wanted a voiced powerbank and was 
advised by a friend
here in New Zealand that the Peak 6000 was what I wanted, so after entering the 
query into Google, I
was directed to Amazon.com.
I found it and put it in my cart and then jogged along to "checkout" to pay for 
it, but when I
clicked my home address, I was told that the item could not be shipped to New 
Zealand because it was
a lithium battery.
However, we, that is, New Zealanders do have an alternative address for, 
otherwise, prohibitted
imports and this is YouShop, which is based in Portland Oregon, but run by NZ 
post, so Amazon sends
items to YS and YS  then sends them on to my home address.
So that this would be possible, I created an account with YouShop and then went 
back to Amazon and
entered the YouShop details as my preferred shipping address.
I thought that that was the transaction completed, but when I had a look in my 
cart this morning,
the powerbank Peak 6000 was still there.
Somewhere, there must be a "pay now" button, but I have hunted 
north/sout/east and all points
between, but I can't find the wretched thing.

Jewel
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To: 
Subject: amazon app, major bug

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order
with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout
button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button
checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this
address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further,
it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't
working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same problem?  It's
extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any ideas?

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jewel]

Oh!  I forgot that I was writing to the iPhone list when I reported that I was 
having the same 
problem as Jed.
I was attempting to make a purchase via my pc.

   Jewel

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From: "Mary Otten" 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:33 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
buttons, you could turn 
voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would probably do, go to Safari 
and Amazon and place 
the order from there. That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon 
app is  nothing great. 
The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really pretty good 
in my opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
> amazon.  My cart is all 
> set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
> I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button 
> checked.  Then i swipe once 
> to the right and it says ship to this address button, so i double tap on it.  
> I can not get 
> anywhere further, it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the 
> button, it isn't working. 
> Is anyone else experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely frustrating, 
> cause i need to place 
> this order.  Any ideas?
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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent Voiceover Changes?

[Rose Combs]

No, I am not experiencing these either, but I use Alex, I hate Samantha, she 
smokes way too much! LOL.  

 

 

Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.

 

Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try using 
the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: USB cable question

[MamaPeach]

My favorite lightning cable is the Apple MFI Certified New Trent Lightning 
to USB Cable sold by Amazon.com. This cable is much thicker and more durable 
than any other cable that I have ever purchased. I used to go through 
lightning cables like they were candy, but not since purchasing this 
particular cable. Right now Amazon shows them as retailing for $29.95, but 
they are on sale for $5.95 with free shipping. Here is the link for that 
cable.

https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Certified-New-Trent-iPhone/dp/B00PHVQ420/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1470441614=8-1=NEW+TRENT+LIGHTNING+CABLE

-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 4:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USB cable question

Rajmund,

I'm with Sieghard and avoid using anything other than Apple certified 
lightning cables. I also don't think I'd buy my iPhone charging stuff from 
eBay but that's me. I've had good success with Anker lightning cables 
purchased from Amazon.


Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USB cable question

It can absolutely be the cable. I have bought less expensive cables from 
Amazon, but I always make sure they are MFI (Made for iPhone) certified. In 
China last year a woman died because she touched her iPhone which was 
plugged in with a cheap, non-certified charger while she was in the bathtub 
and she electrocuted herself. Of course the headlines at first screamed how 
this was Apple's fault until it was revealed she had been using a 
third-party charger.


As for Windows 10, just go to Settings, System, Default Apps and set 
Internet Explorer as your default browser (or Firefox if you prefer it and 
have it installed).



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Rajmund

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: USB cable question

Hi,
So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By 
that, I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug 
into the phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a 
replacement off eBay, which, cost me �1.50, however, over 2 were sold. 
The cable arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't 
a valid  apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it 
charged beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a 
friend something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, 
iTunes gave an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not 
connect, (or whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. 
Did this about 5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for 
which, I have used the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the 
question, is it possible that it is the cable, or would it worth trying 
again?
PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and 
iTunes is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft 
edge, so that I could download it, hence the question.


Sent from a Braille Sense


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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rajmund]

Hi, if you copy something like 3 of 3 WIFI bars, you will notice, that it 
completely ignores the dash. Rather than a dash, it will copy a space. While 
the setting, in my opinion, leaves a lot to be desired, it is still better than 
the other 2 options.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 11:05 pm
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> Hi Alan,
>  
> I think it was Rajmund who mentioned punctuation and I just confirmed that 
> that is your problem.
> I added punctuation to the Rotor since I believe that is the only place where 
> you can change it, and I confirmed that I had it set to "Some". The other two 
> choices are "Non" and "All".
> As soon as I set it to "Non" Voiceover said "we fee" instead of WiFi and it 
> didn't announce the percent sign with battery percentage which I guess would 
> make sense since the percent sign is punctuation.
> It also just announced the time as "3 1" and not 3 O 1", again it makes sense 
> since the time is displayed as 3 then a colon and the 01, without punctuation 
> Voiceover leaves out the leading zero.
> Also, if you spell the WiFi are in the status bar letter by letter you will 
> find that it is spelled with a hyphen as in "Wi-Fi". I guess if punctuation 
> is set to some it realizes that there is a hyphen and it pronounces it 
> correctly but it won't pronounce the hyphen. If you set it to all it will 
> actually say "Wi hyphen Fi".
> If you have set it to None that would probably also explain the lack of a 
> pause at the end of a sentence.
> Not sure how it would have changed from "Some" which I believe is the 
> default, to "None" although if you have Punctuation in the rotor it's 
> probably easy to accidently change it. Just try it by setting it back to 
> "Some" and I'm sure the proper world order will be restored *smile*.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> Rob,
>  
> Thanks for the suggestion but turning off the use pitch change setting 
> didn't' affect my issue. In the status bar, I'm still getting my number of 
> bars pronounced as weefee instead of WyFie, the o being omitted from a time 
> announcement where the minutes are less than 10 after, and the percentage 
> being omitted from the battery charge.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rob
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:27 AM
> To: viph...@googlegroups..com
> Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
> announce eleven o 5..  The only thing I have set that may be different from 
> your settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might 
> want to try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You 
> can find the setting in 
> Settings 
> General 
> Accessibility 
> VoiceOver.
>  
> Rob
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List
> Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: USB cable question

['Simon w' via VIPhone]

Can you guys take this discussion off the list please!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I wasn't disagreeing with them, or  was I? As said else where in the 
> past, insulting each other's grammar is my issue, not your answer. I have no 
> problems with it. Others, however, didn't start telling me how and where to 
> go to learn writing, if for nothing else, it is certainly off topic, and, it 
> isn't something that is in the list guide lines. Unless I've been missing it? 
> Just so you know, you have not only offended me, but you have  also 
> discouraged those from posting, who  are maybe struggling with English a 
> little more than you or I. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jeremy  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:16 pm
> Subject: RE: USB cable question
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please stick to the list content. Others have told you the same about using 
>> uncertified cheapy cables.  
>> 
>> JR 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Rajmund
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: USB cable question
>> 
>> Hi, Yes, I have been told by one single person, you. Everyone has their own 
>> writing style, and not everyone will like them. You have been told a lot of 
>> things on another list, too, after all, you did unsubscribe from it. Enough 
>> said. As for everyone else, I'm sorry for this, but this individual will 
>> refuse to reply if I was to take him on off list.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Jeremy  
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 8:52 pm
>> Subject: RE: USB cable question
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You will want to stick to apple certified cables. You often get what you 
>>> pay for on ebay. 
>>> 
>>> I know you've been told on other lists, so please re-read your messages 
>>> before sending as the extreme use of punctuation makes your messages 
>>> incredibly painful to decipher much less understand. It will benefit you 
>>> greatly to do even a little proofreading. 
>>> 
>>> JR
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Rajmund
>>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: USB cable question
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>> So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By 
>>> that, I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug 
>>> into the phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got 
>>> a replacement off eBay, which, cost me L1.50, however, over 2 were 
>>> sold. The cable arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it 
>>> wasn't a valid  apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, 
>>> it charged beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show 
>>> a friend something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, 
>>> iTunes gave an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not 
>>> connect, (or whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try 
>>> again.. Did this about 5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this 
>>> laptop, for which, I have used the old cable to restore phone with.  So, 
>>> here's the question, is it possible that it is the cable, or would it worth 
>>> trying again? 
>>> PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and 
>>> iTunes is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft 
>>> edge, so that I could download it, hence the question. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

[Rose Combs]

Yeah, I have a gmail address I could switch most things to and one that is 
pretty private, used by only family members now but once was for my late 
husband to connect with me or me to him.  I just do not relish switching 
everyone over to it the more used one.  I should have let Tom do it in 2012 
when he offered, darn it, his ghost won't help me now.  

Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

If the second cousin can't figure it out then maybe it's time for a 
professional installer to take a look.
If you do end up having to switch to a different provider I recommend you get 
either an @outlook.com or @gmail.com email, you will have that for the rest of 
your life no matter who your internet provider is.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Second cousin tried to install it ignoring wire, it did not work and it has 
been three weeks.  
I just want my old one back, or something I can control, turn on, off, change 
temperature, and hear what the temperature is inside.  
Not too much to ask.  
Asked about apps only because one cousin says it is the only thing I can do, 
getting feedback so I can say her idea is not particularly viable or that it 
needs to be a specific brand ... I don't need to control it when I am not here, 
I am always here, or gone only for an hour or so.  

It is what it is, and I really want my talking one back, it did what I require, 
told me the temperature, was programmable, used when I worked, especially in 
winter when I did not wish to heat the house much when I was working.  
Since I seem to have horrible internet coverage here now, I'd prefer my talking 
one to a remotely controlled one anyway.  
Living in a well populated area, getting horrible landline, internet and cell 
service despite hours talking with technicians, having one arrive at my house 
and still no good solutions.  Verizon disabled my advanced settings, provided 
an extender, only difference I note is that I don't have to yell hello multiple 
times before someone can hear me, otherwise still super slow internet speeds, 
answer landline and lose a download, reset modem/router six times in a week 
instead of once in two years.  Needed to move, no choices there, love the 
house, hate to phone services I am currently getting.  Cell tower less than 
half a mile from house, can be seen through trees out one window, so why 
doesn't it work!  

I hate giving up my e-mail address, one I have had for about 7 years, but may 
need to consider switching to Cox which seems to be the most used provider in 
the community here.  

Three weeks house on phones of both types, having technician come to the house 
and tell me all was well, when obviously it is not and was not is getting 
annoying.  

Sighted person who visit have no clue, think computer and phone will eat them 
alive, have no clue how to even go to the internet unless I open it, then turn 
off the screen-reader, then complain because I have a trackball instead of a 
mouse, my late husband's preference.  

Need a partially sighted or sighted person to be a friend who actually 
understands screen readers.  Not happening in this lifetime I suspect.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected 
thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat 
from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I 
could use that thermostat.
If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If 
you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask 
an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do 

How in the world does anyone use Ok Google on an iPhone

[Brian Fischler]

Every time I say ok google the stupid google app says cancel and puts the word 
in to any search query therefore making the app useless to a VoiceOVer user. 
Would love to hear why people love this app and how they use it? If I have to 
turn VO off every time to use it then it is useless.

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Kolby Garrison]

I am experiencing the same issue of not being able to place orders through the 
Amazon app.
Kolby

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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK and I guess I'm an idiot for not reading the entire thread before spending 
10 minutes testing and writing an explanation which was already given.
There you have it, "the Prince and the Idiot" a day in the life of the Viphone 
list!

Take care,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Rajmund,

You're a prince and thanks so much. I always try to remind myself to put the 
rotor to something like headings or words so not to inadvertently change one of 
the other items it contains. I must have mistakenly set the punctuation to none 
because now that I've set it to some, I'm getting the proper pause at periods 
in my texts, wifi is being pronounced WyFie in my status bar, and percentage is 
being announced with my battery charge. When the time gets to a new hour, I'm 
sure the o will once again be stated for minutes less than 10 after.

After three years, I was hoping to avoid such newbie mistakes but one must 
always be careful of the inadvertent rotor changes and recognize better than I 
did when you change one.

Alan Lemly

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Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Hi, By any chance, did you turn punctuation to none? That's what I have, just 
because I can't stand any punctuation, and I hear 8:5 AM, instead of 8:05 a dot 
m. Sentences run together, etc. Flick the rotor about, and see if punctuation 
is on there. If yes, put it to some, and see what happens.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: "VIPhone Email List"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:17 pm
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

I think it was Rajmund who mentioned punctuation and I just confirmed that that 
is your problem.
I added punctuation to the Rotor since I believe that is the only place where 
you can change it, and I confirmed that I had it set to “Some”. The other two 
choices are “Non” and “All”.
As soon as I set it to “Non” Voiceover said “we fee” instead of WiFi and it 
didn’t announce the percent sign with battery percentage which I guess would 
make sense since the percent sign is punctuation.
It also just announced the time as “3 1” and not 3 O 1”, again it makes sense 
since the time is displayed as 3 then a colon and the 01, without punctuation 
Voiceover leaves out the leading zero.
Also, if you spell the WiFi are in the status bar letter by letter you will 
find that it is spelled with a hyphen as in “Wi-Fi”. I guess if punctuation is 
set to some it realizes that there is a hyphen and it pronounces it correctly 
but it won’t pronounce the hyphen. If you set it to all it will actually say 
“Wi hyphen Fi”.
If you have set it to None that would probably also explain the lack of a pause 
at the end of a sentence.
Not sure how it would have changed from “Some” which I believe is the default, 
to “None” although if you have Punctuation in the rotor it’s probably easy to 
accidently change it. Just try it by setting it back to “Some” and I’m sure the 
proper world order will be restored *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Rob,

Thanks for the suggestion but turning off the use pitch change setting didn’t' 
affect my issue. In the status bar, I'm still getting my number of bars 
pronounced as weefee instead of WyFie, the o being omitted from a time 
announcement where the minutes are less than 10 after, and the percentage being 
omitted from the battery charge.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
announce eleven o 5.  The only thing I have set that may be different from your 
settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might want to 
try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You can find the 
setting in
Settings
General
Accessibility
VoiceOver.

Rob

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly
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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Chris Chaffin]

Alan,
The exact same thing happened to me some months ago, and since I do not ever 
change the punctuation setting, I removed it from my rotor so I would not make 
the same mistake again.
Might be something you consider if punctuation is something you never change.

Chris


> On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Rajmund,
> 
> You're a prince and thanks so much. I always try to remind myself to put the 
> rotor to something like headings or words so not to inadvertently change one 
> of the other items it contains. I must have mistakenly set the punctuation to 
> none because now that I've set it to some, I'm getting the proper pause at 
> periods in my texts, wifi is being pronounced WyFie in my status bar, and 
> percentage is being announced with my battery charge. When the time gets to a 
> new hour, I'm sure the o will once again be stated for minutes less than 10 
> after.
> 
> After three years, I was hoping to avoid such newbie mistakes but one must 
> always be careful of the inadvertent rotor changes and recognize better than 
> I did when you change one.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
> 
> Hi, By any chance, did you turn punctuation to none? That's what I have, just 
> because I can't stand any punctuation, and I hear 8:5 AM, instead of 8:05 a 
> dot m. Sentences run together, etc. Flick the rotor about, and see if 
> punctuation is on there. If yes, put it to some, and see what happens.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Lemly  
> To: "VIPhone Email List"  
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:17 pm
> Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
>> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
>> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>> 
>> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
>> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
>> certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
>> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 
>> 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm 
>> curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else 
>> noticed it.
>> 
>> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails 
>> I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period 
>> at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared 
>> altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure 
>> that I included a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were 
>> typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing 
>> has been added to control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else 
>> noticed this?
>> 
>> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
>> difference.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
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Re: Audible books question

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi Dan,
I haven’t experienced anything like this with paid for books.  My free one 
didn’t do that, either.  Not sure why yours has..

Cait

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I am thinking about subscribing to Audible but have a concern.
> 
> 
> I accessed one of their free books on my laptop and tried playing it.  I 
> found that every file associated with the book started with a message that 
> said "no adverts".  Do the parts of a book which are paid for do this too?  I 
> suspect not but wanted to verify this before I spent money on it.
> 
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
> Dan Beaver
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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,
Well, this is most certainly a problem, i confirmed it through apple 
accessibility.
Even after updating my IOS, deleting the app and re-installing it, you 
can no longer get past the address.  Basicly, the button that says 
select this address button, you an no longer double tap on it, it does 
nothing.


On 8/5/2016 4:42 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

What's on the screen before the problematic one? You may have said earlier, but 
I forgot. Keith

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Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

well, there has to be an issue why this isn't working.  I even downloaded the 
app!

On 8/5/2016 4:36 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote:

I just placed an order as well without any issues.

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes


On Aug 5, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message- From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.
Can anyone try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where
it appears to get stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I
double tap on it, and you can't get any further.  Can you guys run
some tests to see if the same thing happens?


On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would 
probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from there. That's 
generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  nothing great. The 
Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really pretty good in my 
opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button checked. 
 Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this address button, so i 
double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, it's useless.  My thought 
is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else 
experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to 
place this order.  Any ideas?

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Re: USB cable question

[Rajmund]

Hi All,
Thanks for this. Fortunately, I have managed to last with my original cable 
since JANUARY, and something told me that unless I see the eBay screen, it will 
not be an Apple certified one, but, you can only learn from your mistakes. 
Thanks again.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: USB cable question

>
>
> Rajmund,
> 
> I'm with Sieghard and avoid using anything other than Apple certified 
> lightning cables. I also don't think I'd buy my iPhone charging stuff from 
> eBay but that's me. I've had good success with Anker lightning cables 
> purchased from Amazon.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: USB cable question
> 
> It can absolutely be the cable. I have bought less expensive cables from 
> Amazon, but I always make sure they are MFI (Made for iPhone) certified. In 
> China last year a woman died because she touched her iPhone which was plugged 
> in with a cheap, non-certified charger while she was in the bathtub and she 
> electrocuted herself. Of course the headlines at first screamed how this was 
> Apple's fault until it was revealed she had been using a third-party charger.
> 
> As for Windows 10, just go to Settings, System, Default Apps and set Internet 
> Explorer as your default browser (or Firefox if you prefer it and have it 
> installed).
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: USB cable question
> 
> Hi, 
> So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By 
> that, I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug 
> into the phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a 
> replacement off eBay, which, cost me ?1.50, however, over 2 were sold. 
> The cable arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't 
> a valid  apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged 
> beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a friend 
> something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes gave 
> an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not connect, (or 
> whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. Did this 
> about 5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I 
> have used the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is 
> it possible that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again? 
> PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and 
> iTunes is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft 
> edge, so that I could download it, hence the question. 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Deidre Muccio]

All these things happened when I updated or rather did a major update some 
months ago might've been six months at this point already. It drove me crazy 
and yes it took me forever to get into settings and find exactly what I could 
change to correct the problem. Those corrections are just as what people have 
discussed here. I find those kinds of setbacks inexcusable.

Deidre


> On Aug 5, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Rajmund,
> 
> Yes, your punctuation suggestion was spot on and corrected my issue. I got a 
> bit behind on email and posted the below reply before seeing your post with 
> the fix.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
> 
> Hi, have you tried my punctuation suggestion yet? You will also hear didn t 
> instead of didn't, to give an example. Yes, that's called no punctuation, and 
> if you flick the rotor to punctuation, then go to some, it will fix the 
> issue. And I agree,, I'll pass on the default voices, give me enhanced, any 
> day.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Lemly  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:08 pm
> Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
>> quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
>> posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
>> that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars 
>> when I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 
>> battery power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.
>> 
>> Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
>> pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gordon
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>> 
>> Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than 
>> the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try 
>> using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
>> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
>> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
>> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>> 
>> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
>> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
>> certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
>> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 
>> 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm 
>> curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else 
>> noticed it.
>> 
>> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails 
>> I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period 
>> at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared 
>> altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure 
>> that I included a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were 
>> typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing 
>> has been added to control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else 
>> noticed this?
>> 
>> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
>> difference.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

Rajmund,

Yes, your punctuation suggestion was spot on and corrected my issue. I got a 
bit behind on email and posted the below reply before seeing your post with the 
fix.

Thanks again.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Hi, have you tried my punctuation suggestion yet? You will also hear didn t 
instead of didn't, to give an example. Yes, that's called no punctuation, and 
if you flick the rotor to punctuation, then go to some, it will fix the issue. 
And I agree,, I'll pass on the default voices, give me enhanced, any day.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:08 pm
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
> quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
> posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
> that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
> I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
> power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.
>  
> Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
> pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
> high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try 
> using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

If any of you are interested in playing Yahoo Fantasy football for free, my 
colleague Ed from our podcast iAccessVO and I are attempting to form a league 
of all blind people. The game is free and almost 100 percent accessible through 
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RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Alan Lemly]

Jerry,

 

I'd agree with Sieghard that if you have mp3 audiobooks you're wanting to get 
on your iPhone, Voice Dream Reader and Dropbox are the easiest solution. You 
can copy the zipped mp3 books into an appropriate Dropbox folder on your 
computer and easily add them to Voice Dream using the app.

 

I don't know if you're a US citizen but if you are, the BARD Mobile app is 
excellent for getting books from the NLS BARD service provided you are a 
citizen and have established a BARD account.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

 

Good afternoon everyone!

 

I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio 
books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could mount 
the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the JTunes 
scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there either!  If 
anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my Windows 7 PC, 
I would be very grateful!

 

I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I guess 
I can try that…  please send any ideas you have!

 

Thanks,

Jerry

 

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

well, apparently it's a bug.  I am on the phone with apple 
accessibility, and they are having the exact same problem.

It's a bug.

On 8/5/2016 4:42 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

What's on the screen before the problematic one? You may have said earlier, but 
I forgot. Keith

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Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:42 PM
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Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

well, there has to be an issue why this isn't working.  I even downloaded the 
app!

On 8/5/2016 4:36 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote:

I just placed an order as well without any issues.

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes


On Aug 5, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message- From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.
Can anyone try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where
it appears to get stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I
double tap on it, and you can't get any further.  Can you guys run
some tests to see if the same thing happens?


On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would 
probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from there. That's 
generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  nothing great. The 
Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really pretty good in my 
opinion.
Mary


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Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button checked. 
 Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this address button, so i 
double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, it's useless.  My thought 
is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else 
experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to 
place this order.  Any ideas?

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RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Richard Turner]

Are these all Audible books?
Did you buy them through itunes or through Audible.
It sounds like you bought them through iTunes.
Since Apple has dropped the ball on accessibility with iTunes, I'd call the 
Accessibility number and talk to them about a refund or some way to get them 
off your computer onto your iPhone.

Not that this does you any good now, but that is the primary reason if I buy an 
audio book, I buy it through audible, so I can always down load them when I 
want.
Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Thanks for the info!

I can, and have, done this, but it really galls me to have to buy books that I 
already own, just because iTunes is not accessible!!  I did this for the entire 
incarnations of immortality series by Piers Anthony, but do not want to re-buy 
the thousands of books I already have on my computer.

I do appreciate the info, though.  This is a viable way to get books on the 
iPhone.  I just hate to have to buy all those books again, I hope you 
understand.  I am not trying to be ungrateful, I'm just fed up with iTunes.

Thanks again,
Jerry

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Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Hi Jerry,

The easiest way I found is to download the Audible iOS app and log in using 
your credentials.  Whenever your credits arrive, simply log onto the site 
through a computer, purchase your audiobooks and once the purchase is complete, 
open the app on your iPhone and refresh.  To Refresh, find the tab at the top 
of the window that says "Cloud" and do a one finger double tab to select.  Then 
swipe right with one finger until you hear your Audible book cloud library, 
then do a three finger swipe down and that should refresh your library.

If that doesn't work, go into the Settings and there is a option to refresh the 
library.

This method, there is no need for a computer to sync, just need it to log on to 
the site and make the purchase.  Once that is done, the rest  is done on the 
phone.

When you want to listen to a book, just do a one finger double tap on the book 
and it will begin to download it.  If you want to only see the list of books 
that are downloaded, where you found the "cloud" tab at the top, right next to 
it you will find a tab that says "device", this will list only the books that 
are downloaded onto your phone.  If you have a small data cap, you might want 
to also wish to go into the settings of the Audible app and allow downloads 
only via wi-fi.

Once the book is downloaded, you double tap on it again and it begins playing.  
It's as easy as that.

Hope this helps!


From:   "Jerry White" 
To: 
Date:   2016/08/05 2:01 PM
Subject:Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Good afternoon everyone!

 

I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio
books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could
mount the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the
JTunes scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there
either!  If anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my
Windows 7 PC, I would be very grateful!

 

I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I
guess I can try that.  please send any ideas you have!

 

Thanks,

Jerry

 

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RE: USB cable question

[Alan Lemly]

Rajmund,

I'm with Sieghard and avoid using anything other than Apple certified lightning 
cables. I also don't think I'd buy my iPhone charging stuff from eBay but 
that's me. I've had good success with Anker lightning cables purchased from 
Amazon.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USB cable question

It can absolutely be the cable. I have bought less expensive cables from 
Amazon, but I always make sure they are MFI (Made for iPhone) certified. In 
China last year a woman died because she touched her iPhone which was plugged 
in with a cheap, non-certified charger while she was in the bathtub and she 
electrocuted herself. Of course the headlines at first screamed how this was 
Apple's fault until it was revealed she had been using a third-party charger.

As for Windows 10, just go to Settings, System, Default Apps and set Internet 
Explorer as your default browser (or Firefox if you prefer it and have it 
installed).


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: USB cable question

Hi, 
So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By that, 
I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug into the 
phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a replacement 
off eBay, which, cost me �1.50, however, over 2 were sold. The cable 
arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't a valid  
apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged 
beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a friend 
something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes gave 
an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not connect, (or 
whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. Did this about 
5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I have used 
the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is it possible 
that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again? 
PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and iTunes 
is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft edge, so 
that I could download it, hence the question. 

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RE: amazon app, major bug

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

What's on the screen before the problematic one? You may have said earlier, but 
I forgot. Keith

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Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

well, there has to be an issue why this isn't working.  I even downloaded the 
app!

On 8/5/2016 4:36 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote:
> I just placed an order as well without any issues.
>
> Sharonda
> Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes
>
>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Lois Butterfield  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, Jen,
>>
>> I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked 
>> just fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I 
>> tapped on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to 
>> the add to cart button, and the rest was easy.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Lois
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Jed Barton
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug
>>
>> There is no reason this shouldn't work.
>> It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  
>> Can anyone try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where 
>> it appears to get stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I 
>> double tap on it, and you can't get any further.  Can you guys run 
>> some tests to see if the same thing happens?
>>
>>> On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
>>> buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would 
>>> probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from there. That's 
>>> generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  nothing great. The 
>>> Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really pretty good 
>>> in my opinion.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

 Hey guys,

 Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
 amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
 I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button 
 checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this address 
 button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, it's 
 useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't 
 working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely 
 frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any ideas?

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

well, there has to be an issue why this isn't working.  I even 
downloaded the app!


On 8/5/2016 4:36 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote:

I just placed an order as well without any issues.

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes


On Aug 5, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message- From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can
anyone try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it
appears to get stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap
on it, and you can't get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to
see if the same thing happens?


On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would 
probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from there. That's 
generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  nothing great. The 
Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really pretty good in my 
opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button checked. 
 Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this address button, so i 
double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, it's useless.  My thought 
is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else 
experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to 
place this order.  Any ideas?

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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

Rajmund,

You're a prince and thanks so much. I always try to remind myself to put the 
rotor to something like headings or words so not to inadvertently change one of 
the other items it contains. I must have mistakenly set the punctuation to none 
because now that I've set it to some, I'm getting the proper pause at periods 
in my texts, wifi is being pronounced WyFie in my status bar, and percentage is 
being announced with my battery charge. When the time gets to a new hour, I'm 
sure the o will once again be stated for minutes less than 10 after.

After three years, I was hoping to avoid such newbie mistakes but one must 
always be careful of the inadvertent rotor changes and recognize better than I 
did when you change one.

Alan Lemly

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Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Hi, By any chance, did you turn punctuation to none? That's what I have, just 
because I can't stand any punctuation, and I hear 8:5 AM, instead of 8:05 a dot 
m. Sentences run together, etc. Flick the rotor about, and see if punctuation 
is on there. If yes, put it to some, and see what happens.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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From: Alan Lemly  
To: "VIPhone Email List"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:17 pm
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I just placed an order as well without any issues. 

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Lois Butterfield  
> wrote:
> 
> Okay, Jen,
> 
> I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked 
> just fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I 
> tapped on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to 
> the add to cart button, and the rest was easy.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Lois
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jed Barton
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug
> 
> There is no reason this shouldn't work.
> It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can
> anyone try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it
> appears to get stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap
> on it, and you can't get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to
> see if the same thing happens?
> 
>> On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
>> buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would 
>> probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from there. That's 
>> generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  nothing great. The 
>> Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really pretty good in 
>> my opinion.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
>>> amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
>>> I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button 
>>> checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this address 
>>> button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, it's 
>>> useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't working. 
>>>  Is anyone else experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely 
>>> frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any ideas?
>>> 
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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

Guys i have literally spent all day trying to figure this out.  It's so 
obvious.

I am pressing the button
it says ship to this address, and it lisWhen i double tap on it i hear a 
click and voiceover says

ship to this address.
Then absolutely nothing changes, i can get no further, i see no order 
sumary, i have a cancel and continue shopping button, i can get no 
further.ts my address button.

When i double tap anywhere on the screen
On 8/5/2016 3:53 PM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote:

Hi,

I also use the app whenever I make purchases through Amazon and I too have not 
encountered any difficulties when selecting an address.

The only glitch I ever encountered was after purchasing an item, the item 
wouldn't be removed from my cart, I'd have to go to my cart and manually remove 
it.

Either then that, the app works fine over here!


From:   Sieghard Weitzel 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/08/05 3:46 PM
Subject:RE: amazon app, major bug

Hi Jed,

I usually do my Amazon orders on the PC, but I used to have the app so I redownloaded it, logged in and added an item 
to my cart. I double tapped on "Proceed to Checkout" and on the next screen it went straight to where it gave 
me my order summary with my default address and I just had the "Place Order" button at the top. Since I 
didn't actually want to order anything just now I didn't tap that, but I did tap on my name in the address and that 
brought up a screen which showed a couple of other shipping addresses I have used over the years. Under my address was 
the "Use this address" btton and when I double tapped on it I was back at the final screen with the 
"Place Order" button.
Not sure why this doesn't work for you, but it seems to be fine here just same 
as what Lois said.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can anyone 
try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it appears to get 
stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap on it, and you can't 
get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to see if the same thing happens?

On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering
locations of buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button.
Or, what I would probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from 
there.
That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is
nothing great. The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site
is really pretty good in my opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order
with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio
button checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to
this address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere
further, it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the
button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same
problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any 
ideas?

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Re: How do I remove a contact, that includes a Facebook contact

[Jerry Mader]

> Hello there. If it has a Facebook contacts associated with it or if it comes 
> from Facebook, you cannot delete it off of your phone. It won't let you. 
> There is no delete button at the bottom of the contacts. Best regards. Jerry 
> Mader

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Re: USB cable question

[Rajmund]

Hi, I wasn't disagreeing with them, or  was I? As said else where in the past, 
insulting each other's grammar is my issue, not your answer. I have no problems 
with it. Others, however, didn't start telling me how and where to go to learn 
writing, if for nothing else, it is certainly off topic, and, it isn't 
something that is in the list guide lines. Unless I've been missing it? Just so 
you know, you have not only offended me, but you have  also discouraged those 
from posting, who  are maybe struggling with English a little more than you or 
I. 



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- Original Message -
From: Jeremy  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:16 pm
Subject: RE: USB cable question

>
>
> Please stick to the list content. Others have told you the same about using 
> uncertified cheapy cables.  
> 
> JR 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: USB cable question
> 
> Hi, Yes, I have been told by one single person, you. Everyone has their own 
> writing style, and not everyone will like them. You have been told a lot of 
> things on another list, too, after all, you did unsubscribe from it. Enough 
> said. As for everyone else, I'm sorry for this, but this individual will 
> refuse to reply if I was to take him on off list.
> 
> 
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> - Original Message -
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 8:52 pm
> Subject: RE: USB cable question
> 
> >
> >
> > You will want to stick to apple certified cables. You often get what you 
> > pay for on ebay. 
> > 
> > I know you've been told on other lists, so please re-read your messages 
> > before sending as the extreme use of punctuation makes your messages 
> > incredibly painful to decipher much less understand. It will benefit you 
> > greatly to do even a little proofreading. 
> > 
> > JR
> > 
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> > Hi, 
> > So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By 
> > that, I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug 
> > into the phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got 
> > a replacement off eBay, which, cost me L1.50, however, over 2 were 
> > sold. The cable arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it 
> > wasn't a valid  apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, 
> > it charged beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show 
> > a friend something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, 
> > iTunes gave an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not 
> > connect, (or whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try 
> > again.. Did this about 5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this 
> > laptop, for which, I have used the old cable to restore phone with.  So, 
> > here's the question, is it possible that it is the cable, or would it worth 
> > trying again? 
> > PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and 
> > iTunes is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft 
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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

ok so what am i missing here guys.

On 8/5/2016 3:53 PM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote:

Hi,

I also use the app whenever I make purchases through Amazon and I too have not 
encountered any difficulties when selecting an address.

The only glitch I ever encountered was after purchasing an item, the item 
wouldn't be removed from my cart, I'd have to go to my cart and manually remove 
it.

Either then that, the app works fine over here!


From:   Sieghard Weitzel 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/08/05 3:46 PM
Subject:RE: amazon app, major bug

Hi Jed,

I usually do my Amazon orders on the PC, but I used to have the app so I redownloaded it, logged in and added an item 
to my cart. I double tapped on "Proceed to Checkout" and on the next screen it went straight to where it gave 
me my order summary with my default address and I just had the "Place Order" button at the top. Since I 
didn't actually want to order anything just now I didn't tap that, but I did tap on my name in the address and that 
brought up a screen which showed a couple of other shipping addresses I have used over the years. Under my address was 
the "Use this address" btton and when I double tapped on it I was back at the final screen with the 
"Place Order" button.
Not sure why this doesn't work for you, but it seems to be fine here just same 
as what Lois said.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can anyone 
try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it appears to get 
stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap on it, and you can't 
get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to see if the same thing happens?

On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering
locations of buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button.
Or, what I would probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from 
there.
That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is
nothing great. The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site
is really pretty good in my opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order
with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio
button checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to
this address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere
further, it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the
button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same
problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any 
ideas?

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

ok, so here's exactly what i am seeing.
I go to the cart and view my items.
Then i swipe over and it says proceed to checkout.
So i click on that.  When i get to that screen, this is what i have.

cancel button
select a shipping address heading
my address and phone radio button checked
ship to this address button
edit address button
delete address button
add a new address link
ship to multiple addresses link
or heading level 5
cancel and continue shopping link

Does any of this make sense?
On 8/5/2016 3:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Jed,

I usually do my Amazon orders on the PC, but I used to have the app so I redownloaded it, logged in and added an item 
to my cart. I double tapped on "Proceed to Checkout" and on the next screen it went straight to where it gave 
me my order summary with my default address and I just had the "Place Order" button at the top. Since I 
didn't actually want to order anything just now I didn't tap that, but I did tap on my name in the address and that 
brought up a screen which showed a couple of other shipping addresses I have used over the years. Under my address was 
the "Use this address" btton and when I double tapped on it I was back at the final screen with the 
"Place Order" button.
Not sure why this doesn't work for you, but it seems to be fine here just same 
as what Lois said.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can anyone 
try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it appears to get 
stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap on it, and you can't 
get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to see if the same thing happens?

On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering
locations of buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button.
Or, what I would probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from 
there.
That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is
nothing great. The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site
is really pretty good in my opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order
with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio
button checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to
this address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere
further, it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the
button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same
problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any 
ideas?

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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

Rob,

 

Thanks for the suggestion but turning off the use pitch change setting didn’t' 
affect my issue. In the status bar, I'm still getting my number of bars 
pronounced as weefee instead of WyFie, the o being omitted from a time 
announcement where the minutes are less than 10 after, and the percentage being 
omitted from the battery charge.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rob
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
announce eleven o 5.  The only thing I have set that may be different from your 
settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might want to 
try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You can find the 
setting in 

Settings 

General 

Accessibility 

VoiceOver.

 

Rob

 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

see that's the problem, i am not getting the order sumary.  when i click 
on the proceed to checkout button, it just gives me my address.  There 
is no order sumary.


On 8/5/2016 3:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Jed,

I usually do my Amazon orders on the PC, but I used to have the app so I redownloaded it, logged in and added an item 
to my cart. I double tapped on "Proceed to Checkout" and on the next screen it went straight to where it gave 
me my order summary with my default address and I just had the "Place Order" button at the top. Since I 
didn't actually want to order anything just now I didn't tap that, but I did tap on my name in the address and that 
brought up a screen which showed a couple of other shipping addresses I have used over the years. Under my address was 
the "Use this address" btton and when I double tapped on it I was back at the final screen with the 
"Place Order" button.
Not sure why this doesn't work for you, but it seems to be fine here just same 
as what Lois said.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can anyone 
try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it appears to get 
stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap on it, and you can't 
get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to see if the same thing happens?

On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering
locations of buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button.
Or, what I would probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from 
there.
That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is
nothing great. The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site
is really pretty good in my opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order
with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio
button checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to
this address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere
further, it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the
button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same
problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any 
ideas?

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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rajmund]

Hi, have you tried my punctuation suggestion yet? You will also hear didn t 
instead of didn't, to give an example. Yes, that's called no punctuation, and 
if you flick the rotor to punctuation, then go to some, it will fix the issue. 
And I agree,, I'll pass on the default voices, give me enhanced, any day.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:08 pm
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
> quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
> posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
> that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
> I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
> power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.
>  
> Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
> pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
> high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try 
> using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
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RE: USB cable question

[Jeremy]

Please stick to the list content. Others have told you the same about using 
uncertified cheapy cables.  

JR 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USB cable question

Hi, Yes, I have been told by one single person, you. Everyone has their own 
writing style, and not everyone will like them. You have been told a lot of 
things on another list, too, after all, you did unsubscribe from it. Enough 
said. As for everyone else, I'm sorry for this, but this individual will refuse 
to reply if I was to take him on off list.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Jeremy  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 8:52 pm
Subject: RE: USB cable question

>
>
> You will want to stick to apple certified cables. You often get what you pay 
> for on ebay. 
> 
> I know you've been told on other lists, so please re-read your messages 
> before sending as the extreme use of punctuation makes your messages 
> incredibly painful to decipher much less understand. It will benefit you 
> greatly to do even a little proofreading. 
> 
> JR
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: USB cable question
> 
> Hi, 
> So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By 
> that, I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug 
> into the phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a 
> replacement off eBay, which, cost me Ł1.50, however, over 2 were sold. 
> The cable arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't 
> a valid  apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged 
> beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a friend 
> something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes gave 
> an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not connect, (or 
> whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. Did this 
> about 5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I 
> have used the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is 
> it possible that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again? 
> PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and 
> iTunes is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft 
> edge, so that I could download it, hence the question. 
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Re: USB cable question

[Rajmund]

Hi, Yes, I have been told by one single person, you. Everyone has their own 
writing style, and not everyone will like them. You have been told a lot of 
things on another list, too, after all, you did unsubscribe from it. Enough 
said. As for everyone else, I'm sorry for this, but this individual will refuse 
to reply if I was to take him on off list.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Jeremy  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 8:52 pm
Subject: RE: USB cable question

>
>
> You will want to stick to apple certified cables. You often get what you pay 
> for on ebay. 
> 
> I know you've been told on other lists, so please re-read your messages 
> before sending as the extreme use of punctuation makes your messages 
> incredibly painful to decipher much less understand. It will benefit you 
> greatly to do even a little proofreading. 
> 
> JR
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: USB cable question
> 
> Hi, 
> So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By 
> that, I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug 
> into the phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a 
> replacement off eBay, which, cost me Ł1.50, however, over 2 were sold. 
> The cable arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't 
> a valid  apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged 
> beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a friend 
> something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes gave 
> an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not connect, (or 
> whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. Did this 
> about 5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I 
> have used the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is 
> it possible that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again? 
> PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and 
> iTunes is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft 
> edge, so that I could download it, hence the question. 
> 
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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.

 

Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try using 
the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: amazon app, major bug

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi,

I also use the app whenever I make purchases through Amazon and I too have not 
encountered any difficulties when selecting an address.

The only glitch I ever encountered was after purchasing an item, the item 
wouldn't be removed from my cart, I'd have to go to my cart and manually remove 
it.

Either then that, the app works fine over here!


From:   Sieghard Weitzel 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/08/05 3:46 PM
Subject:RE: amazon app, major bug

Hi Jed,

I usually do my Amazon orders on the PC, but I used to have the app so I 
redownloaded it, logged in and added an item to my cart. I double tapped on 
"Proceed to Checkout" and on the next screen it went straight to where it gave 
me my order summary with my default address and I just had the "Place Order" 
button at the top. Since I didn't actually want to order anything just now I 
didn't tap that, but I did tap on my name in the address and that brought up a 
screen which showed a couple of other shipping addresses I have used over the 
years. Under my address was the "Use this address" btton and when I double 
tapped on it I was back at the final screen with the "Place Order" button.
Not sure why this doesn't work for you, but it seems to be fine here just same 
as what Lois said.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can anyone 
try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it appears to get 
stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap on it, and you can't 
get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to see if the same thing happens?

On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering 
> locations of buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. 
> Or, what I would probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order 
> from there.
> That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  
> nothing great. The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site 
> is really pretty good in my opinion.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order 
>> with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
>> I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio 
>> button checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to 
>> this address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere 
>> further, it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the 
>> button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same 
>> problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any 
>> ideas?
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RE: USB cable question

[Jeremy]

You will want to stick to apple certified cables. You often get what you pay 
for on ebay. 

I know you've been told on other lists, so please re-read your messages before 
sending as the extreme use of punctuation makes your messages incredibly 
painful to decipher much less understand. It will benefit you greatly to do 
even a little proofreading. 

JR

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: USB cable question

Hi, 
So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By that, 
I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug into the 
phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a replacement 
off eBay, which, cost me £1.50, however, over 2 were sold. The cable 
arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't a valid  
apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged 
beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a friend 
something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes gave 
an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not connect, (or 
whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. Did this about 
5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I have used 
the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is it possible 
that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again? 
PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and iTunes 
is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft edge, so 
that I could download it, hence the question. 

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RE: amazon app, major bug

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jed,

I usually do my Amazon orders on the PC, but I used to have the app so I 
redownloaded it, logged in and added an item to my cart. I double tapped on 
"Proceed to Checkout" and on the next screen it went straight to where it gave 
me my order summary with my default address and I just had the "Place Order" 
button at the top. Since I didn't actually want to order anything just now I 
didn't tap that, but I did tap on my name in the address and that brought up a 
screen which showed a couple of other shipping addresses I have used over the 
years. Under my address was the "Use this address" btton and when I double 
tapped on it I was back at the final screen with the "Place Order" button.
Not sure why this doesn't work for you, but it seems to be fine here just same 
as what Lois said.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked just 
fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I tapped 
on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to the add 
to cart button, and the rest was easy.

Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can anyone 
try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it appears to get 
stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap on it, and you can't 
get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to see if the same thing happens?

On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering 
> locations of buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. 
> Or, what I would probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order 
> from there.
> That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  
> nothing great. The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site 
> is really pretty good in my opinion.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order 
>> with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
>> I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio 
>> button checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to 
>> this address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere 
>> further, it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the 
>> button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same 
>> problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any 
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the second cousin can't figure it out then maybe it's time for a 
professional installer to take a look.
If you do end up having to switch to a different provider I recommend you get 
either an @outlook.com or @gmail.com email, you will have that for the rest of 
your life no matter who your internet provider is.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Second cousin tried to install it ignoring wire, it did not work and it has 
been three weeks.  
I just want my old one back, or something I can control, turn on, off, change 
temperature, and hear what the temperature is inside.  
Not too much to ask.  
Asked about apps only because one cousin says it is the only thing I can do, 
getting feedback so I can say her idea is not particularly viable or that it 
needs to be a specific brand ... I don't need to control it when I am not here, 
I am always here, or gone only for an hour or so.  

It is what it is, and I really want my talking one back, it did what I require, 
told me the temperature, was programmable, used when I worked, especially in 
winter when I did not wish to heat the house much when I was working.  
Since I seem to have horrible internet coverage here now, I'd prefer my talking 
one to a remotely controlled one anyway.  
Living in a well populated area, getting horrible landline, internet and cell 
service despite hours talking with technicians, having one arrive at my house 
and still no good solutions.  Verizon disabled my advanced settings, provided 
an extender, only difference I note is that I don't have to yell hello multiple 
times before someone can hear me, otherwise still super slow internet speeds, 
answer landline and lose a download, reset modem/router six times in a week 
instead of once in two years.  Needed to move, no choices there, love the 
house, hate to phone services I am currently getting.  Cell tower less than 
half a mile from house, can be seen through trees out one window, so why 
doesn't it work!  

I hate giving up my e-mail address, one I have had for about 7 years, but may 
need to consider switching to Cox which seems to be the most used provider in 
the community here.  

Three weeks house on phones of both types, having technician come to the house 
and tell me all was well, when obviously it is not and was not is getting 
annoying.  

Sighted person who visit have no clue, think computer and phone will eat them 
alive, have no clue how to even go to the internet unless I open it, then turn 
off the screen-reader, then complain because I have a trackball instead of a 
mouse, my late husband's preference.  

Need a partially sighted or sighted person to be a friend who actually 
understands screen readers.  Not happening in this lifetime I suspect.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected 
thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat 
from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I 
could use that thermostat.
If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If 
you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask 
an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do this.  
Clear as mud?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the 

RE: Thermostat confusion.

[Rose Combs]

Great, I would be just the opposite, summer is when I want it cool, I don't 
care that much about winter, but then I am in Mesa, Arizona, next door to 
Phoenix.  LOL, however, right now I can do nothing with the one currently in 
house where I moved three weeks ago.  Hopefully that will change before long.  
Not sure I want a Ness, however, poor communications outside this area it 
seems.  Even with cell tower less than half a mile away which someone, not me, 
can see through the trees at a window in my house.  House is great, landline 
and cell service so far is horrible.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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Les Kriegler
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.

Chip, another use for the nest thermostat is the ability to set the thermostat 
at home or away mode. This is really why I got a Wi-Fi thermostat to begin 
with. We have cold weather here. There's nothing worse than coming home to a 
cold house. When I find helpful with the Wi-Fi thermostats is a you can set 
your temperature while you're away and then change back to home mode and warm 
your house up when you get there. The same applies of course for cooling. This 
is all accessible through the nest app.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
> thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
> the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not 
> (the Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with 
> an app you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app 
> indicates if you are at home or not using location services).
> 
> Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
> airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
> integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or 
> all of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
> increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house 
> feel much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.
> 
> In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
> into the HVAC called a humidifier.
> 
> It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
> thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
> work very well. 
> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once 
> the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn 
> off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 
> degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by 
> causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List 
> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
> thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
> temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer 
> to that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
> heating?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Adobe Connect

[Steve Cook]

Hi All,

I downloaded the Adobe Connect app and was able to agree to the license 
agreement.  After this, VO does not announce any text as I move around the 
screen.  Any tips on using this app?

Steve Cook

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Lois Butterfield]

Okay, Jen,

I just placed an order successfully through the amazon app, and it worked 
just fine.  I tapped on the button with the right address, then I believe I 
tapped on a button that had my town as a link.  After that, I could swipe to 
the add to cart button, and the rest was easy.


Good luck.

Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Jed Barton

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can
anyone try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it
appears to get stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap
on it, and you can't get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to
see if the same thing happens?

On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would 
probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from there. 
That's generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  nothing 
great. The Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really 
pretty good in my opinion.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button 
checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this address 
button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, it's 
useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't 
working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely 
frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any ideas?


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RE: Thermostat confusion.

[Rose Combs]

Second cousin tried to install it ignoring wire, it did not work and it has 
been three weeks.  
I just want my old one back, or something I can control, turn on, off, change 
temperature, and hear what the temperature is inside.  
Not too much to ask.  
Asked about apps only because one cousin says it is the only thing I can do, 
getting feedback so I can say her idea is not particularly viable or that it 
needs to be a specific brand ... I don't need to control it when I am not here, 
I am always here, or gone only for an hour or so.  

It is what it is, and I really want my talking one back, it did what I require, 
told me the temperature, was programmable, used when I worked, especially in 
winter when I did not wish to heat the house much when I was working.  
Since I seem to have horrible internet coverage here now, I'd prefer my talking 
one to a remotely controlled one anyway.  
Living in a well populated area, getting horrible landline, internet and cell 
service despite hours talking with technicians, having one arrive at my house 
and still no good solutions.  Verizon disabled my advanced settings, provided 
an extender, only difference I note is that I don't have to yell hello multiple 
times before someone can hear me, otherwise still super slow internet speeds, 
answer landline and lose a download, reset modem/router six times in a week 
instead of once in two years.  Needed to move, no choices there, love the 
house, hate to phone services I am currently getting.  Cell tower less than 
half a mile from house, can be seen through trees out one window, so why 
doesn't it work!  

I hate giving up my e-mail address, one I have had for about 7 years, but may 
need to consider switching to Cox which seems to be the most used provider in 
the community here.  

Three weeks house on phones of both types, having technician come to the house 
and tell me all was well, when obviously it is not and was not is getting 
annoying.  

Sighted person who visit have no clue, think computer and phone will eat them 
alive, have no clue how to even go to the internet unless I open it, then turn 
off the screen-reader, then complain because I have a trackball instead of a 
mouse, my late husband's preference.  

Need a partially sighted or sighted person to be a friend who actually 
understands screen readers.  Not happening in this lifetime I suspect.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected 
thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat 
from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I 
could use that thermostat.
If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If 
you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask 
an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do this.  
Clear as mud?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the temperature, but that's 
it.  I was offering information only for those with sighted live-in or close 
help.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app!  Can I do it 
living alone.  I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which 
means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't want to go 

RE: Audible books question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I totally agree with Daniel. I used to get all my books from the CNIB here in 
Canada and whatever other free sources I could find, but ever since I 
subscribed to Audible I rarely even use the CNIB any more because of the often 
much higher quality and better narration of Audible books. Of course another 
huge advantage is that they have a larger selection and I can usually get new 
releases as soon as they come out on paper. There definitely is no such 
announcement with any books I have and I have hundreds.
I just wish they would get their act together and let you stream books via the 
app as well instead of having to download. You can stream on the website, but 
unfortunately the playback controls don't seem to be accessible. It would be 
nice if in addition to their regular monthly and annual Gold and Platinum 
memberships they would maybe offer an unlimited streaming subscription which 
gives you the option to download a few books at a time for those situations 
where you want offline access.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audible books question

Hi Dan,

Great name by the way, the only message you really hear when listening to a 
purchased Audible audiobook is at the beginning and near the end.  The one at 
the beginning says something like "This is Audible" and then the narrator of 
the book starts speaking.  The one at the end says "Audible hopes you have 
enjoyed this program".

If you decide to join, and if you love to read, I would say you will not regret 
it, I would suggest you download the iOS app, login using your new Audible 
Username/E-mail and Password, and evertime you wish to buy a book, go to the 
site and purchase them from there first.  When you've done that, log into the 
app and the books should appear.  If not, you can go into the Settings and 
refresh your library.  Once you've done that, select the "Cloud" tab at the top 
of the app (this section lists all of the books you've purchased on Audible, 
doesn't mean that they are all downloaded, they are just the ones on the 
cloud), then you double tap the one you want and it begins to download.  Once 
it's done, then double tap on the book again and it will start playing.  You 
can even select the "Device" tab beside the "cloud" tab and this will show you 
the books that are only downloaded onto your device.

You can always start with the Gold plan, which gives you one credit a month, 
and pretty much every book in their library are all one credit.  Or if you are 
a big reader, you can get the Platinuym plan that gives you two credits a month.

Again, if you love to read, then I find audiobooks are the way to go.  Not that 
there is anything wrong with reading braille books, it just doesn't keep my 
attention very long and I spend more time trying to read and understand a 
paragraph, that I don't enjoy the story.  It's even better when you get a great 
narrator that just brings the book to life.

If you are a fan of Star Wars, they have plenty of books and series on Star 
Wars.  I would recommend that you get those narrated by Mark Thompson, in my 
opinion, he is the best narrator for those stories.

Anyways, hope this helps.

From:   Dan 
To: 
Date:   2016/08/05 2:28 PM
Subject:Audible books question

Hi,


I am thinking about subscribing to Audible but have a concern.


I accessed one of their free books on my laptop and tried playing it.  I found 
that every file associated with the book started with a message that said "no 
adverts".  Do the parts of a book which are paid for do this too?  I suspect 
not but wanted to verify this before I spent money on it.


thanks.


Dan Beaver

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Re: Audible books question

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi Dan,

Great name by the way, the only message you really hear when listening to a 
purchased Audible audiobook is at the beginning and near the end.  The one at 
the beginning says something like "This is Audible" and then the narrator of 
the book starts speaking.  The one at the end says "Audible hopes you have 
enjoyed this program".

If you decide to join, and if you love to read, I would say you will not regret 
it, I would suggest you download the iOS app, login using your new Audible 
Username/E-mail and Password, and evertime you wish to buy a book, go to the 
site and purchase them from there first.  When you've done that, log into the 
app and the books should appear.  If not, you can go into the Settings and 
refresh your library.  Once you've done that, select the "Cloud" tab at the top 
of the app (this section lists all of the books you've purchased on Audible, 
doesn't mean that they are all downloaded, they are just the ones on the 
cloud), then you double tap the one you want and it begins to download.  Once 
it's done, then double tap on the book again and it will start playing.  You 
can even select the "Device" tab beside the "cloud" tab and this will show you 
the books that are only downloaded onto your device.

You can always start with the Gold plan, which gives you one credit a month, 
and pretty much every book in their library are all one credit.  Or if you are 
a big reader, you can get the Platinuym plan that gives you two credits a month.

Again, if you love to read, then I find audiobooks are the way to go.  Not that 
there is anything wrong with reading braille books, it just doesn't keep my 
attention very long and I spend more time trying to read and understand a 
paragraph, that I don't enjoy the story.  It's even better when you get a great 
narrator that just brings the book to life.

If you are a fan of Star Wars, they have plenty of books and series on Star 
Wars.  I would recommend that you get those narrated by Mark Thompson, in my 
opinion, he is the best narrator for those stories.

Anyways, hope this helps.

From:   Dan 
To: 
Date:   2016/08/05 2:28 PM
Subject:Audible books question

Hi,


I am thinking about subscribing to Audible but have a concern.


I accessed one of their free books on my laptop and tried playing it.  I 
found that every file associated with the book started with a message 
that said "no adverts".  Do the parts of a book which are paid for do 
this too?  I suspect not but wanted to verify this before I spent money 
on it.


thanks.


Dan Beaver

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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

There is no reason this shouldn't work.
It makes no sense.  This is a huge bug that needs to be reported.  Can 
anyone try it to see if they are having the same problem?  Where it 
appears to get stuck, it says ship to this address button.  I double tap 
on it, and you can't get any further.  Can you guys run some tests to 
see if the same thing happens?


On 8/5/2016 12:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would 
probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from there. That's 
generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  nothing great. The 
Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really pretty good in my 
opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button checked. 
 Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this address button, so i 
double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, it's useless.  My thought 
is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't working.  Is anyone else 
experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i need to 
place this order.  Any ideas?

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Re: USB cable question

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Apple leads have id chips in, that's how it knows it ain't an Apple lead.  
£1.50 should tell you it's not going to be an 
Apple-certified lead.

Some places state specificly they sell such certified leads, so get one of 
those.  YOu have the resolution centre to get your money 
back if it proves not to be.

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rajmund" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 6:27 PM
Subject: USB cable question


Hi,
So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By that, 
I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the 
end that you plug into the phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be 
visible. SO, I got a replacement off eBay, which, cost me 
£1.50, however, over 2 were sold. The cable arrived today, and, looking at 
it instantly told me that it wasn't a valid  apple 
certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged beautifully, 
until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a 
friend something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes 
gave an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, 
but it could not connect, (or whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, 
and try again. Did this about 5 times, switching 
between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I have used the old cable to 
restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is it 
possible that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again?
PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and iTunes 
is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring 
out Microsoft edge, so that I could download it, hence the question.

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RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi Jerry,

I apologize, I didn't realize that you had audiobooks, that were not purchased 
through Audible, on iTunes and that those were the ones you wanted to sync.

I just thought you were asking how to sync audiobooks in general.  for 
audiobooks not purchased on Audible, I am not sure how this would be done.  I 
haven't done that for a long while, back when iTunes was simple and easy to use.

I would guess that you would import them into iTunes, go onto the page that 
list the various media types on your iPhone, where you find the "Summary", 
Music", "Tones", and all those different media, select the Audiobooks item, and 
I am guessing that you would have a checkbox that would say something like 
"Sync Audiobooks", similar to the one you would find under the "Tones" and 
"Music" sections, and tab until you land in the list of audiobooks in your 
library, then press the spacebar to select those you wish to sync, and then tab 
until you land on either the "Sync" or "Apply" buttons.  Then you press on one 
of those and the sync process should start.  The only thing that I am not sure 
is where would you find the files on your phone then.  You used to be able to 
open the Music app and select the Audiobook tab at the bottom, but I am not 
sure if you still have that one in Music, now that they use this app for Apple 
Music.

Another option as well, if you have a Victor Reader Stream, you could always 
copy the files into the "Other Books" folder on your SD card and play those 
auidobooks through the VR Stream.  That is always an option.

A friend of mine got me lots of Star Wars and other book series that 've simply 
copied to my stream and read them that way.

Again, my apologies for the confusion.

Hope this helps!


From:   "Jerry White" 
To: 
Date:   2016/08/05 2:20 PM
Subject:RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Thanks for the info!

I can, and have, done this, but it really galls me to have to buy books that I 
already own, just because iTunes is not accessible!!  I did this for the entire 
incarnations of immortality series by Piers Anthony, but do not want to re-buy 
the thousands of books I already have on my computer.

I do appreciate the info, though.  This is a viable way to get books on the 
iPhone.  I just hate to have to buy all those books again, I hope you 
understand.  I am not trying to be ungrateful, I'm just fed up with iTunes.

Thanks again,
Jerry

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Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Hi Jerry,

The easiest way I found is to download the Audible iOS app and log in using 
your credentials.  Whenever your credits arrive, simply log onto the site 
through a computer, purchase your audiobooks and once the purchase is complete, 
open the app on your iPhone and refresh.  To Refresh, find the tab at the top 
of the window that says "Cloud" and do a one finger double tab to select.  Then 
swipe right with one finger until you hear your Audible book cloud library, 
then do a three finger swipe down and that should refresh your library.

If that doesn't work, go into the Settings and there is a option to refresh the 
library.

This method, there is no need for a computer to sync, just need it to log on to 
the site and make the purchase.  Once that is done, the rest  is done on the 
phone.

When you want to listen to a book, just do a one finger double tap on the book 
and it will begin to download it.  If you want to only see the list of books 
that are downloaded, where you found the "cloud" tab at the top, right next to 
it you will find a tab that says "device", this will list only the books that 
are downloaded onto your phone.  If you have a small data cap, you might want 
to also wish to go into the settings of the Audible app and allow downloads 
only via wi-fi.

Once the book is downloaded, you double tap on it again and it begins playing.  
It's as easy as that.

Hope this helps!


From:   "Jerry White" 
To: 
Date:   2016/08/05 2:01 PM
Subject:Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Good afternoon everyone!

 

I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio
books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could
mount the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the
JTunes scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there
either!  If anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my
Windows 7 PC, I would be very grateful!

 

I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I
guess I can try that.  please send any ideas you have!

 

Thanks,

Jerry

 

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Re: Scales and app to track weight

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi Jonathan,

I looked at your blog post about the scales.

I have been very happy with my FitBit Aria scale for years.  I was able to set 
it up myself via the FitBit app, which is quite accessible.

I have the app because I have been using their step counters also for years 
because my Apple watch doesn’t count steps at all when holding onto the 
treadmill rail.  I walk and run a lot and want credit for those steps as well. 

If you don’t use a treadmill at all, this probably won’t make a difference, but 
it is amazing to look at the health app and see how few steps I get credit for.

I step on the scale and count to five.  That’s all the time it takes to get my 
weight and body fat calculated.

This is just some things one might want to consider when choosing which scale 
and which app to use.

I’m glad to know how the WiThing works.  I hope it becomes more accessible in 
the near future.

Take care,
Lois


From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Scales and app to track weight

Hi peter, this blog post on my experiences finding something that worked well 
may be helpful. 

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

  On 17/07/2016, at 5:36 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:

  Does anyone know of a BT scale that will communicate with the IPhone and 
update the Health app?

  Sent from my iPhone

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Re: USB cable question

[Rajmund]

Hi, Thanks for the second option, wasn't aware of that. I'll set IE as the 
default browser in a sec. As for the cable, it had a list of what is supported, 
5S, SE, iPad air, but iTunes doesn't like it.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 7:19 pm
Subject: RE: USB cable question

>
>
> It can absolutely be the cable. I have bought less expensive cables from 
> Amazon, but I always make sure they are MFI (Made for iPhone) certified. In 
> China last year a woman died because she touched her iPhone which was plugged 
> in with a cheap, non-certified charger while she was in the bathtub and she 
> electrocuted herself. Of course the headlines at first screamed how this was 
> Apple's fault until it was revealed she had been using a third-party charger.
> 
> As for Windows 10, just go to Settings, System, Default Apps and set Internet 
> Explorer as your default browser (or Firefox if you prefer it and have it 
> installed).
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: USB cable question
> 
> Hi, 
> So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By 
> that, I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug 
> into the phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a 
> replacement off eBay, which, cost me £1.50, however, over 2 were sold. 
> The cable arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't 
> a valid  apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged 
> beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a friend 
> something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes gave 
> an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not connect, (or 
> whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. Did this 
> about 5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I 
> have used the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is 
> it possible that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again? 
> PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and 
> iTunes is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft 
> edge, so that I could download it, hence the question. 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Audible books question

[Dan]

Hi,


I am thinking about subscribing to Audible but have a concern.


I accessed one of their free books on my laptop and tried playing it.  I 
found that every file associated with the book started with a message 
that said "no adverts".  Do the parts of a book which are paid for do 
this too?  I suspect not but wanted to verify this before I spent money 
on it.



thanks.


Dan Beaver

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RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Daniel,

I am not sure if Jerry is talking about Audible books, based on his subject I 
assume he is talking about just audio books in general, most likely MP3 
formatted books.

Anyhow, I haven't synced audio books via iTunes in a long time since I much 
prefer to use Voice Dream Reader to listen to them instead of the stock Music 
app. If you have Voice Dream Reader all you have to do is zip the files into a 
zip folder, then copy said zip folder into a Dropbox folder you can call Audio 
Books or Voice Dream Reader or whatever. Once they have uploaded to Dropbox you 
can access them from the Voice Dream App and download them in the app and 
listen. I guess with the new version you can also do this via iCloud, but I 
haven't tried it et.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Hi Jerry,

The easiest way I found is to download the Audible iOS app and log in using 
your credentials.  Whenever your credits arrive, simply log onto the site 
through a computer, purchase your audiobooks and once the purchase is complete, 
open the app on your iPhone and refresh.  To Refresh, find the tab at the top 
of the window that says "Cloud" and do a one finger double tab to select.  Then 
swipe right with one finger until you hear your Audible book cloud library, 
then do a three finger swipe down and that should refresh your library.

If that doesn't work, go into the Settings and there is a option to refresh the 
library.

This method, there is no need for a computer to sync, just need it to log on to 
the site and make the purchase.  Once that is done, the rest  is done on the 
phone.

When you want to listen to a book, just do a one finger double tap on the book 
and it will begin to download it.  If you want to only see the list of books 
that are downloaded, where you found the "cloud" tab at the top, right next to 
it you will find a tab that says "device", this will list only the books that 
are downloaded onto your phone.  If you have a small data cap, you might want 
to also wish to go into the settings of the Audible app and allow downloads 
only via wi-fi.

Once the book is downloaded, you double tap on it again and it begins playing.  
It's as easy as that.

Hope this helps!


From:   "Jerry White" 
To: 
Date:   2016/08/05 2:01 PM
Subject:Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Good afternoon everyone!

 

I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio 
books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could mount 
the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the JTunes 
scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there either!  If 
anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my Windows 7 PC, 
I would be very grateful!

 

I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I guess 
I can try that.  please send any ideas you have!

 

Thanks,

Jerry

 

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RE: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Jerry White]

Thanks for the info!

I can, and have, done this, but it really galls me to have to buy books that I 
already own, just because iTunes is not accessible!!  I did this for the entire 
incarnations of immortality series by Piers Anthony, but do not want to re-buy 
the thousands of books I already have on my computer.

I do appreciate the info, though.  This is a viable way to get books on the 
iPhone.  I just hate to have to buy all those books again, I hope you 
understand.  I am not trying to be ungrateful, I'm just fed up with iTunes.

Thanks again,
Jerry

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Hi Jerry,

The easiest way I found is to download the Audible iOS app and log in using 
your credentials.  Whenever your credits arrive, simply log onto the site 
through a computer, purchase your audiobooks and once the purchase is complete, 
open the app on your iPhone and refresh.  To Refresh, find the tab at the top 
of the window that says "Cloud" and do a one finger double tab to select.  Then 
swipe right with one finger until you hear your Audible book cloud library, 
then do a three finger swipe down and that should refresh your library.

If that doesn't work, go into the Settings and there is a option to refresh the 
library.

This method, there is no need for a computer to sync, just need it to log on to 
the site and make the purchase.  Once that is done, the rest  is done on the 
phone.

When you want to listen to a book, just do a one finger double tap on the book 
and it will begin to download it.  If you want to only see the list of books 
that are downloaded, where you found the "cloud" tab at the top, right next to 
it you will find a tab that says "device", this will list only the books that 
are downloaded onto your phone.  If you have a small data cap, you might want 
to also wish to go into the settings of the Audible app and allow downloads 
only via wi-fi.

Once the book is downloaded, you double tap on it again and it begins playing.  
It's as easy as that.

Hope this helps!


From:   "Jerry White" 
To: 
Date:   2016/08/05 2:01 PM
Subject:Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Good afternoon everyone!

 

I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio
books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could
mount the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the
JTunes scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there
either!  If anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my
Windows 7 PC, I would be very grateful!

 

I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I
guess I can try that.  please send any ideas you have!

 

Thanks,

Jerry

 

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RE: USB cable question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It can absolutely be the cable. I have bought less expensive cables from 
Amazon, but I always make sure they are MFI (Made for iPhone) certified. In 
China last year a woman died because she touched her iPhone which was plugged 
in with a cheap, non-certified charger while she was in the bathtub and she 
electrocuted herself. Of course the headlines at first screamed how this was 
Apple's fault until it was revealed she had been using a third-party charger.

As for Windows 10, just go to Settings, System, Default Apps and set Internet 
Explorer as your default browser (or Firefox if you prefer it and have it 
installed).


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: USB cable question

Hi, 
So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By that, 
I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug into the 
phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a replacement 
off eBay, which, cost me £1.50, however, over 2 were sold. The cable 
arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't a valid  
apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged 
beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a friend 
something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes gave 
an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not connect, (or 
whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. Did this about 
5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I have used 
the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is it possible 
that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again? 
PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and iTunes 
is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft edge, so 
that I could download it, hence the question. 

Sent from a Braille Sense 


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Re: Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi Jerry,

The easiest way I found is to download the Audible iOS app and log in using 
your credentials.  Whenever your credits arrive, simply log onto the site 
through a computer, purchase your audiobooks and once the purchase is complete, 
open the app on your iPhone and refresh.  To Refresh, find the tab at the top 
of the window that says "Cloud" and do a one finger double tab to select.  Then 
swipe right with one finger until you hear your Audible book cloud library, 
then do a three finger swipe down and that should refresh your library.

If that doesn't work, go into the Settings and there is a option to refresh the 
library.

This method, there is no need for a computer to sync, just need it to log on to 
the site and make the purchase.  Once that is done, the rest  is done on the 
phone.

When you want to listen to a book, just do a one finger double tap on the book 
and it will begin to download it.  If you want to only see the list of books 
that are downloaded, where you found the "cloud" tab at the top, right next to 
it you will find a tab that says "device", this will list only the books that 
are downloaded onto your phone.  If you have a small data cap, you might want 
to also wish to go into the settings of the Audible app and allow downloads 
only via wi-fi.

Once the book is downloaded, you double tap on it again and it begins playing.  
It's as easy as that.

Hope this helps!


From:   "Jerry White" 
To: 
Date:   2016/08/05 2:01 PM
Subject:Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

Good afternoon everyone!

 

I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio
books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could
mount the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the
JTunes scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there
either!  If anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my
Windows 7 PC, I would be very grateful!

 

I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I
guess I can try that.  please send any ideas you have!

 

Thanks,

Jerry

 

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Re: Thermostat confusion.

[Les Kriegler]

Chip, another use for the nest thermostat is the ability to set the thermostat 
at home or away mode. This is really why I got a Wi-Fi thermostat to begin 
with. We have cold weather here. There's nothing worse than coming home to a 
cold house. When I find helpful with the Wi-Fi thermostats is a you can set 
your temperature while you're away and then change back to home mode and warm 
your house up when you get there. The same applies of course for cooling. This 
is all accessible through the nest app.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
> thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
> the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not 
> (the Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with 
> an app you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app 
> indicates if you are at home or not using location services).
> 
> Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
> airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
> integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or 
> all of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
> increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house 
> feel much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.
> 
> In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
> into the HVAC called a humidifier.
> 
> It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
> thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
> work very well. 
> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once 
> the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn 
> off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 
> degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by 
> causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List 
> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
> thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
> temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer 
> to that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
> heating?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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RE: New free GPS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As the information indicated, it is currently working best in Canada, but they 
apparently are working on expanding this coverage. My suggestion would be to 
contact the developer and ask if it is possible to be notified when (or if) 
Scandinavia gets coverage.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New free GPS

Hi,
Will this app be able to work outside the US or Canada, like in Scandinavia? It 
would be cool if it was made to work here too.
/Krister

5 aug. 2016 kl. 17:42 skrev Ron 
>:

Hi all,

I would like to correct a statement I made in error.  Autour uses Google places 
and not Google maps.  I brought up to the developing team the comments of a 
user who would like to add turn by turn directions.  The answer was that Autour 
was not created for that purpose because there are enough very good apps out 
there that are doing a very good job.  Another comment I got and related to the 
team was welcomed for close consideration and that is to be able to drop bread 
crumbs to be able to navigate in open areas such as a parc large parking lot or 
even on the water.

Ron & Danvers


From: 
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 On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New free GPS

Hello:

If anyone is using IOS Beta 10, this app doesn’t work: at least, on my phone.



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New free GPS

Hi all,

A couple of weeks ago, someone was asking here about a GPS app that works with 
Google maps.  At the time I stated that there would be one available in Canada 
only in a few weeks.  Well, the few weeks are here and it is available.  The 
fact is that it does work also   outside  of Canada in a limited way for now.  
That will shortly be improved as you will see in a copy of the message the 
McGill university professor sent me this morning.  It is being developed by 
engeneering students at the university.  That is why it is free.  Since I have 
been a tester for the students since the beginning of this project, I would 
welcome your comments so I can pass them on.  The app is called Autour which is 
the French word for Around.  To find the app in the app store, typing Autour is 
not enough as that word brings up too many results. If you type in McGill 
university Autour it will be the first result.

There is a short tutorial when you install it and you can go to the web site 
for more instructions.

In radar mode, a click constantly goes around 360 º indicating the position of 
what is being announced while the beam mode is meant to be used when stopped 
and pointing your phone in different directions to find out exactly where poi’s 
are located.  This is used mostly when examining a given area more closely.  
The app is designed to be used with an open ear headset or in the hand.  Of 
course, when using in the hand, you don’t get the same pin point location in 
the radar mode.  It works best in a neck pouch with the phone upside down and 
the screen away from your chest.  When lifted horizontally, the app 
automatically goes into beam mode.

Looking forward to hearing  your comments

Hi Ron,

In fact, Autour is generally not intended to be usable in a vehicle at present, 
because we shut down data requests whenever the GPS determines that you are 
moving too quickly.  This is to avoid overuse of your data plan.  However, we 
are working on design modifications to make this possible, such that Autour 
could provide the most important information relevant for this use case, such 
as periodic intersection information.

As for outside of Canada, yes, it works, but only with a limited subset of 
data.  We are planning to expand this in the near future with additional 
database imports.

Jeremy

Ron & Danvers

Remember the five simple rules to be happy:
1. Free your heart from hatred.
2. Free your mind from worries.
3. Live simply.
4. Give more.
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Looking for any way to put audio books on iPhone 6

[Jerry White]

Good afternoon everyone!

 

I am getting desperate now!  I have tried everything I can find to get audio
books onto my iPhone.  I even bought iExplore because it said you could
mount the folders like a windows drive, but no luck!  I also bought the
JTunes scripts for iTunes, and can't get to the audio books from there
either!  If anyone can tell me how to put audio books on my iPhone 6 from my
Windows 7 PC, I would be very grateful!

 

I had not wanted to jail-break my iPhone, but if that is the only way, I
guess I can try that.  please send any ideas you have!

 

Thanks,

Jerry

 

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RE: Thermostat confusion.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected 
thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat 
from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I 
could use that thermostat.
If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If 
you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask 
an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do this.  
Clear as mud?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the temperature, but that's 
it.  I was offering information only for those with sighted live-in or close 
help.

Chip


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Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app!  Can I do it 
living alone.  I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which 
means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't want to go there.  
If it only halfway works, I might as well go back to the old guessing game I 
played before the talking thermostat even if I once set it at 60 in the middle 
of the night because I was having hot flashes!  Late husband woke up saying it 
was winter again, LOL and I suggested he might want to check the thermostat 
because I just pushed on the down button and held it.  He bought the talking 
thermostat after that, hours after that in fact.  
Ladies of a certain age will understand the hot flashes syndrome.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not (the 
Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with an app 
you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app indicates if 
you are at home or not using location services).

Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or all 
of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house feel 
much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.

In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
into the HVAC called a humidifier.

It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.

Hth,

Chip


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
work very well. 
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to 
and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner 
when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the 
summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter 
requiring you to heat. 

voiceover saying capital letters

[Billy Maynard]

hi,

I've noticed since I updated  to IOS 9.3.3 that voiceover whenn on headings 
for example in the contacts tab of the phone ap and insidently in apple 
music  headings list it says cap B very strangely.  I've looked at  use 
pitch change off and on and neather seems to make a difference.  Am I alone 
here and if so, does anyone have any sujestions to help?  I'm using Samantha 
enhanced.


Thanks, Billy Maynard 


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USB cable question

[Rajmund]

Hi, 
So, sadly, after 8 months of use, my original Apple Charger, has died. By that, 
I mean, the plastic on the actual cable, near the end that you plug into the 
phone, cracked open, allowing the inside to be visible. SO, I got a replacement 
off eBay, which, cost me £1.50, however, over 2 were sold. The cable 
arrived today, and, looking at it instantly told me that it wasn't a valid  
apple certified cable. But, no problems, or so I thought, it charged 
beautifully, until Thought I'd plug it to iTunes,  and show a friend 
something. That's when reality hit me. At first, silence. Second, iTunes gave 
an error. Then, said an iPhone was detected, but it could not connect, (or 
whatever it says) please disconnect this iPhone, and try again. Did this about 
5 times, switching between 3 USB ports of this laptop, for which, I have used 
the old cable to restore phone with.  So, here's the question, is it possible 
that it is the cable, or would it worth trying again? 
PS. Its windows 10, on which, I have installed the update yesterday, and iTunes 
is detecting an update, but couldn't bother figuring out Microsoft edge, so 
that I could download it, hence the question. 

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Re: New free GPS

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
Will this app be able to work outside the US or Canada, like in Scandinavia? It 
would be cool if it was made to work here too.
/Krister

> 5 aug. 2016 kl. 17:42 skrev Ron :
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I would like to correct a statement I made in error.  Autour uses Google 
> places and not Google maps.  I brought up to the developing team the comments 
> of a user who would like to add turn by turn directions.  The answer was that 
> Autour was not created for that purpose because there are enough very good 
> apps out there that are doing a very good job.  Another comment I got and 
> related to the team was welcomed for close consideration and that is to be 
> able to drop bread crumbs to be able to navigate in open areas such as a parc 
> large parking lot or even on the water.
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: New free GPS
>  
> Hello:
>  
> If anyone is using IOS Beta 10, this app doesn’t work: at least, on my phone.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Ron
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: New free GPS
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> A couple of weeks ago, someone was asking here about a GPS app that works 
> with Google maps.  At the time I stated that there would be one available in 
> Canada only in a few weeks.  Well, the few weeks are here and it is 
> available.  The fact is that it does work also   outside  of Canada in a 
> limited way for now.  That will shortly be improved as you will see in a copy 
> of the message the McGill university professor sent me this morning.  It is 
> being developed by engeneering students at the university.  That is why it is 
> free.  Since I have been a tester for the students since the beginning of 
> this project, I would welcome your comments so I can pass them on.  The app 
> is called Autour which is the French word for Around.  To find the app in the 
> app store, typing Autour is not enough as that word brings up too many 
> results. If you type in McGill university Autour it will be the first result.
>  
> There is a short tutorial when you install it and you can go to the web site 
> for more instructions.
>  
> In radar mode, a click constantly goes around 360 º indicating the position 
> of what is being announced while the beam mode is meant to be used when 
> stopped and pointing your phone in different directions to find out exactly 
> where poi’s are located.  This is used mostly when examining a given area 
> more closely.  The app is designed to be used with an open ear headset or in 
> the hand.  Of course, when using in the hand, you don’t get the same pin 
> point location in the radar mode.  It works best in a neck pouch with the 
> phone upside down and the screen away from your chest.  When lifted 
> horizontally, the app automatically goes into beam mode.
>  
> Looking forward to hearing  your comments
>  
> Hi Ron,
>  
> In fact, Autour is generally not intended to be usable in a vehicle at 
> present, because we shut down data requests whenever the GPS determines that 
> you are moving too quickly.  This is to avoid overuse of your data plan.  
> However, we are working on design modifications to make this possible, such 
> that Autour could provide the most important information relevant for this 
> use case, such as periodic intersection information.
>  
> As for outside of Canada, yes, it works, but only with a limited subset of 
> data.  We are planning to expand this in the near future with additional 
> database imports.
>  
> Jeremy
>  
> Ron & Danvers  
>  
> Remember the five simple rules to be happy:
> 1. Free your heart from hatred.
> 2. Free your mind from worries.
> 3. Live simply. 
> 4. Give more.
> 5. Expect less.'
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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Evan Reese]

Yes, it does seem to be true. I was visiting friends and we compared the 
high quality and default Samantha voices, and the default did seem a little 
better to us. Strange but that's what it sounded like to us.

Evan

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From: Jed Barton

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

i always thought Samantha was the better 1, that is the lower quality voice.


On 8/5/2016 10:55 AM, 'Simon w' via VIPhone wrote:

Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon > wrote:


Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better
than the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way
around. Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are
still there.
On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes
that I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my
iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while
still running iOS 9.3.3.



The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel
certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero
before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m.,
VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no
big deal but I'm curious why they would change such a thing and I'm
wondering if anyone else noticed it.



The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and
emails I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation
such as a period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly
decreased or disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on more
than one occasion to ensure that I included a period because VO read
my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my
VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?



I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes
a difference.



Thanks in advance for your comments.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rajmund]

Hi, Yes. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> > 
> > Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than 
> > the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. 
> > Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
> >> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> >> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that 
> >> I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> >> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
> >>  
> >> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> >> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
> >> certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero 
> >> before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO 
> >> would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal 
> >> but I'm curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if 
> >> anyone else noticed it.
> >>  
> >> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails 
> >> I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a 
> >> period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or 
> >> disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion 
> >> to ensure that I included a period because VO read my text as if the   
> >>   sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver 
> >> settings to make sure nothing has been added to control this and could not 
> >> find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
> >>  
> >> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> >> difference.
> >>  
> >> Thanks in advance for your comments.
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

[Rose Combs]

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do this.  
Clear as mud?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the temperature, but that's 
it.  I was offering information only for those with sighted live-in or close 
help.

Chip


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Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app!  Can I do it 
living alone.  I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which 
means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't want to go there.  
If it only halfway works, I might as well go back to the old guessing game I 
played before the talking thermostat even if I once set it at 60 in the middle 
of the night because I was having hot flashes!  Late husband woke up saying it 
was winter again, LOL and I suggested he might want to check the thermostat 
because I just pushed on the down button and held it.  He bought the talking 
thermostat after that, hours after that in fact.  
Ladies of a certain age will understand the hot flashes syndrome.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not (the 
Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with an app 
you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app indicates if 
you are at home or not using location services).

Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or all 
of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house feel 
much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.

In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
into the HVAC called a humidifier.

It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.

Hth,

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
work very well. 
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to 
and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner 
when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the 
summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter 
requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 Fahrenheit and it is 
super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your air conditioner to kick 
in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once the temperature in the 
house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with 
your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 
outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to 
start up if it gets too cold.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
To: IPhone Email List 
Subject: Thermostat 

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rajmund]

Hi, By any chance, did you turn punctuation to none? That's what I have, just 
because I can't stand any punctuation, and I hear 8:5 AM, instead of 8:05 a dot 
m. Sentences run together, etc. Flick the rotor about, and see if punctuation 
is on there. If yes, put it to some, and see what happens.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: "VIPhone Email List"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:17 pm
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: amazon app, major bug

[Mary Otten]

Well, a couple of ideas. If you're really good at remembering locations of 
buttons, you could turn voiceover off and tap the button. Or, what I would 
probably do, go to Safari and Amazon and place the order from there. That's 
generally what I do anyway, as I find the Amazon app is  nothing great. The 
Safari experience on the phone with the Amazon site is really pretty good in my 
opinion.
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> Hey guys,
> 
> Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order with 
> amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout button.
> I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button 
> checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this address 
> button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, it's useless. 
>  My thought is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't working.  Is anyone 
> else experienceing this same problem?  It's extremely frustrating, cause i 
> need to place this order.  Any ideas?
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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rob]

I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
announce eleven o 5.  The only thing I have set that may be different from your 
settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might want to 
try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You can find the 
setting in 

Settings 

General 

Accessibility 

VoiceOver.

 

Rob

 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

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amazon app, major bug

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

Alright, i need you guys to try this.  I am trying to place an order 
with amazon.  My cart is all set.  I click on the proceed to checkout 
button.
I only have 1 address in there.  It says my address, then radio button 
checked.  Then i swipe once to the right and it says ship to this 
address button, so i double tap on it.  I can not get anywhere further, 
it's useless.  My thought is, when i double tap on the button, it isn't 
working.  Is anyone else experienceing this same problem?  It's 
extremely frustrating, cause i need to place this order.  Any ideas?


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RE: New free GPS

[Ron]

Hi Jim,

 

I was just told that IOS 10 Beta was used last week in testing the app and it 
was working just fine on an iPhone 6S plus.  Don’t know why it isn’t working on 
yours.  The guy who tested it is very good at updating to the latest beta as 
soon as it is out.  Are you using the very latest beta?

 

Ron & Danvers

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New free GPS

 

Hello:

 

If anyone is using IOS Beta 10, this app doesn’t work: at least, on my phone.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: New free GPS

 

Hi all,

 

A couple of weeks ago, someone was asking here about a GPS app that works with 
Google maps.  At the time I stated that there would be one available in Canada 
only in a few weeks.  Well, the few weeks are here and it is available.  The 
fact is that it does work also   outside  of Canada in a limited way for now.  
That will shortly be improved as you will see in a copy of the message the 
McGill university professor sent me this morning.  It is being developed by 
engeneering students at the university.  That is why it is free.  Since I have 
been a tester for the students since the beginning of this project, I would 
welcome your comments so I can pass them on.  The app is called Autour which is 
the French word for Around.  To find the app in the app store, typing Autour is 
not enough as that word brings up too many results. If you type in McGill 
university Autour it will be the first result.

 

There is a short tutorial when you install it and you can go to the web site 
for more instructions.

 

In radar mode, a click constantly goes around 360 º indicating the position of 
what is being announced while the beam mode is meant to be used when stopped 
and pointing your phone in different directions to find out exactly where poi’s 
are located.  This is used mostly when examining a given area more closely.  
The app is designed to be used with an open ear headset or in the hand.  Of 
course, when using in the hand, you don’t get the same pin point location in 
the radar mode.  It works best in a neck pouch with the phone upside down and 
the screen away from your chest.  When lifted horizontally, the app 
automatically goes into beam mode.

 

Looking forward to hearing  your comments

 

Hi Ron,

 

In fact, Autour is generally not intended to be usable in a vehicle at present, 
because we shut down data requests whenever the GPS determines that you are 
moving too quickly.  This is to avoid overuse of your data plan.  However, we 
are working on design modifications to make this possible, such that Autour 
could provide the most important information relevant for this use case, such 
as periodic intersection information.

 

As for outside of Canada, yes, it works, but only with a limited subset of 
data.  We are planning to expand this in the near future with additional 
database imports.

 

Jeremy

 

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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Mary Otten]

I have not noticed these things, but I have not installed the recently released 
9.34. So if there are new with 9.34, which you didn't seem to think they are, 
that could be why.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: New free GPS

[Ron]

Hi all,

 

I would like to correct a statement I made in error.  Autour uses Google places 
and not Google maps.  I brought up to the developing team the comments of a 
user who would like to add turn by turn directions.  The answer was that Autour 
was not created for that purpose because there are enough very good apps out 
there that are doing a very good job.  Another comment I got and related to the 
team was welcomed for close consideration and that is to be able to drop bread 
crumbs to be able to navigate in open areas such as a parc large parking lot or 
even on the water.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

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Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New free GPS

 

Hello:

 

If anyone is using IOS Beta 10, this app doesn’t work: at least, on my phone.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: New free GPS

 

Hi all,

 

A couple of weeks ago, someone was asking here about a GPS app that works with 
Google maps.  At the time I stated that there would be one available in Canada 
only in a few weeks.  Well, the few weeks are here and it is available.  The 
fact is that it does work also   outside  of Canada in a limited way for now.  
That will shortly be improved as you will see in a copy of the message the 
McGill university professor sent me this morning.  It is being developed by 
engeneering students at the university.  That is why it is free.  Since I have 
been a tester for the students since the beginning of this project, I would 
welcome your comments so I can pass them on.  The app is called Autour which is 
the French word for Around.  To find the app in the app store, typing Autour is 
not enough as that word brings up too many results. If you type in McGill 
university Autour it will be the first result.

 

There is a short tutorial when you install it and you can go to the web site 
for more instructions.

 

In radar mode, a click constantly goes around 360 º indicating the position of 
what is being announced while the beam mode is meant to be used when stopped 
and pointing your phone in different directions to find out exactly where poi’s 
are located.  This is used mostly when examining a given area more closely.  
The app is designed to be used with an open ear headset or in the hand.  Of 
course, when using in the hand, you don’t get the same pin point location in 
the radar mode.  It works best in a neck pouch with the phone upside down and 
the screen away from your chest.  When lifted horizontally, the app 
automatically goes into beam mode.

 

Looking forward to hearing  your comments

 

Hi Ron,

 

In fact, Autour is generally not intended to be usable in a vehicle at present, 
because we shut down data requests whenever the GPS determines that you are 
moving too quickly.  This is to avoid overuse of your data plan.  However, we 
are working on design modifications to make this possible, such that Autour 
could provide the most important information relevant for this use case, such 
as periodic intersection information.

 

As for outside of Canada, yes, it works, but only with a limited subset of 
data.  We are planning to expand this in the near future with additional 
database imports.

 

Jeremy

 

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RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

It just so happened that it was a few minutes before 8 just now on Friday 
morning when I read your message. I finished the messages and then checked the 
time at which point it was 8:07 and my enhanced Samantha voice did announce the 
time after I pressed the home button to wake up the phone as 8 O 7.
Not sure why she doesn’t for you, I also find I can still hear if a sentence is 
done and ended with a period.
Have you rebooted your phone after doing the update? You might want to give 
that a try.
I am using iOS 10 public beta, but I just checked on my wife’s iPhone which is 
running the latest iOS 9.3 update and it also says the time correctly as 8 O 7.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 7:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly
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RE: VCF QR Codes

[Alan Lemly]

Gordan,

 

You might take a look at Quick Scan which you can read about here:

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-scan-qr-code-reader/id483336864?mt=8

 

I've downloaded it and it seems to be accessible but whether it will do 
everything you want, I'm not sure. The app description does mention that it can 
add QR code addresses to your contacts.

 

I'm still a little confused by QR Codes because many of them appear to be 
private or else I'm not scanning them correctly. I was playing with Quick Scan 
after downloading it and I tried unsuccessfully to scan the QR Code included on 
a FedEx shipping label, and on various other pieces of mail. I don't know if I 
was doing something wrong but I activated the Quick Scan button at the top left 
to turn bar code scan on and the iPhone's light turned on. I assume this puts 
the app in automatic scanning mode but as I said, I didn't get a successful 
scan on any of my mail items. However, I did successfully scan a bar code on a 
box of crackers while in this mode and received a message that it didn't scan 
bar codes and I would need to download another one of the developer's apps to 
scan bar codes.

 

I hope this is a bit helpful and if I learn anything else about Quick Scan, 
I'll post back.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VCF QR Codes

 

Hi!

I asked this some time ago but it was in some busy thread and didn't find the 
answer or I have missed it.

I'm starting a new one so maybe I'll get it more clear this time.

What is the easiest way to import contact data to Contacts app using QR code? 
there are tons of VCF cards in QR codes these days and I never find a solutions 
to import them directly to my contacts using cammera.

As I know, Contacts app doesn't have QR code support so I guess I should use 
some 3rd party app to scan such contacts and I would like to hear your 
recommendations or maybe some iOS secret way to do this.

Thanks for your answers!

 

 

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RE: How do I remove a contact, that includes a Facebook contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the Contact comes from Facebook or Skype you can't delete them this way.


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Subject: Re: How do I remove a contact, that includes a Facebook contact

hi Rob, thanks for this, but can you remove multi contacts?, Billy

On 05/08/2016 09:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:
> Open the offending contact,  click Edit, Delete button is right at the 
> cottom,  confirm on second Delete prompt.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Terri Stimmel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:04 AM
> Subject: How do I remove a contact, that includes a Facebook contact
>
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I have a very important question for my boyfriend.
>
> He has a couple of contacts in his iPhone that you would like to remove.
> However, he cannot seem to remove them, there is no delete button. Both of 
> these contacts have Facebook information in his phone.
> My boyfriend is not on Facebook, and never has been. We cannot seem to remove 
> these contacts.
>
> Also, sometimes one of the contacts name comes up, and ask him to 
> enter their password for Facebook. I've never heard of such a thing.
> Why would this be happening? Is there a way to fix it?
>
> Any help with this would be very, very much appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Terri
>
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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Jed Barton]

i always thought Samantha was the better 1, that is the lower quality voice.


On 8/5/2016 10:55 AM, 'Simon w' via VIPhone wrote:

Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon > wrote:


Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better
than the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way
around. Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are
still there.
On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes
that I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my
iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while
still running iOS 9.3.3.



The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel
certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero
before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m.,
VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no
big deal but I'm curious why they would change such a thing and I'm
wondering if anyone else noticed it.



The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and
emails I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation
such as a period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly
decreased or disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on more
than one occasion to ensure that I included a period because VO read
my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my
VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?



I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes
a difference.



Thanks in advance for your comments.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Gordon]

Yes.


On 8/5/2016 9:55 AM, 'Simon w' via VIPhone wrote:

Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon > wrote:


Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better 
than the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way 
around. Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are 
still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes 
that I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my 
iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while 
still running iOS 9.3.3.


The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes 
when announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. 
I feel certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o 
for zero before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 
8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like 
I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they would change such a 
thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.


The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and 
emails I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation 
such as a period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly 
decreased or disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on 
more than one occasion to ensure that I included a period because VO 
read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added 
to control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed 
this?


I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this 
makes a difference.


Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly

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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

['Simon w' via VIPhone]

Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
> high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try 
> using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
>> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
>> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
>> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>>  
>> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
>> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
>> certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
>> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 
>> 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm 
>> curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else 
>> noticed it.
>>  
>> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails 
>> I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period 
>> at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared 
>> altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure 
>> that I included a period because VO read my text as if the 
>> sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to 
>> make sure nothing has been added to control this and could not find 
>> anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>>  
>> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
>> difference.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Gordon]

Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better 
than the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way 
around. Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are 
still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes 
that I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 
6 to iOS 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still 
running iOS 9.3.3.


The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero 
before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., 
VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no 
big deal but I'm curious why they would change such a thing and I'm 
wondering if anyone else noticed it.


The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and 
emails I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such 
as a period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased 
or disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on more than one 
occasion to ensure that I included a period because VO read my text as 
if the sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver 
settings to make sure nothing has been added to control this and could 
not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?


I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes 
a difference.


Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly

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major problem with the amazon app

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys
OK, i have put an order together on amazon, and am checking out.  Having 
a major problem when it comes to the address i wanna ship it to.  The 
address is already saved on there, it said, ship to this address button. 
 I double tap it, and there is no option to proceed any further, all i 
see is a cancel button, and a go back button.  When i double tapped the 
ship to this address button i can't get any further.  Any ideas?


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Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS
9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel
certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before
announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say
8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm
curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else
noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails
I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period
at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared
altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure
that I included a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were
typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing
has been added to control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else
noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: looking for accessible IStick for IPhone

[Russ Kiehne]

I haven’t checked with Leef in a while to find out what the progress is on 
making the app fully accessible with voiceover.  Any of you who are interested 
in this, I would suggest you contact Leef at: smailto:servi...@leefco.com

From: Chip Orange 
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: looking for accessible IStick for IPhone

Hi All,

 

I’m looking for a recommendation for one of the USB drives which comes with a 
lightning connector and app designed to be accessible on an Iphone and standard 
USB.

 

  The previous messages I’ve found on this group mentioned a brand/model named 
Ibridge, but said it wasn’t entirely accessible, but it would be soon.

Can anyone say if it is accessible now, or if there is a brand/model which is 
accessible?

 

Thanks.

 

Chip

 

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RE: the u-verse apps

[pattigj1206]

I think I could have sent you a message meant for some one else, I apologize.

Patti

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Hunt
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the u-verse apps

 

Hello. Here are the steps.

1. Select the remote tab.

2. Double tap the info button.

3. Double tap the Right button twice.

4. Double tap the down button.

5. Double tap the ok button.

To turn off Audio Description, switch channels. Enjoy. 


On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:17 AM,  >  > wrote:

I use the uverse app as well, but how can you turn on audio description with 
it, I have not seen that feature.

Thanks,

Patti

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: the u-verse apps

 

Hello everybody. Yes, the uverse app is accessible for me. I can use the guide, 
manage recordings and turn on audio description.


On Jul 30, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Gordon  > wrote:

I find the At Uverse app to be very accessible. I can view, schedule and 
delete recordings. Watching live tv is also really easy. Haven't played with 
the on demand stuff, but given the layout of everything else I would think that 
it would work well.

 

On 7/30/2016 11:27 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

To those of you subscribed to at’s U-Verse, are you using the ios apps and do 
they have any accessibility problems?  Thanks.

 

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Re: For Jenifer: Fwd: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi Jen,

   With the straight side toward you, the left hand button is for "spot clean" 
which is a setting which allows the Bot to clean either a square of about 6 x 6 
feet or 14 x 14 feet (depending on how you have set it). So, maybe, you have a 
carpet that wants a little more attention, put the straight edge of the Vac 
centrally, along one side, just off the carpet, press the spot clean button, or 
use the app, and your carpet will be attended to!!

As Jeramy said, you could call the support people, or, using the app choose 
"help" which will take you to their support page, where there is a wealth of 
info, advice on doing stuff or a chat line with their help. If you are sure 
that the Bot is connected to your wifi, then choose "add" in the menu page of 
the app. You have to add the new Vac, plus name, to your app, you should then 
start to be instructed as to how to proceed. You will need your password for 
your router though.

Once you are up and running, and you need to empty the dustbin, you will 
feel a gap on the top of the Vac, if you put your fingers in there, which works 
as a sort of handle for carrying the Bot around, if you turn your hand around, 
instead of using the handle, you will find that by lifting, a top flap will 
open, very easily! this is the dustbin, the top flap is part of it. I think you 
will have to take a look and come back to me, because, it is very easy to do, 
but not easy to describe without you take a look first! Come back to me off 
list if you need more assistance, my address, which, for some reason, doesn't 
show up here, is:
sandratomk...@googlemail.com
Good luck and happy Hoovering!
Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 5 Aug 2016, at 10:54, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
> 
> Ok,
> To answer one of your questions... if the canister is full, it will just
> stop.
> It will not go back to the base. You will need to find it and empty it
> yourself.
> The only times it returns to the base is if the vac needs to be charged, or
> its done vacuming.
> Secondly, the button on the front right is like a manual starter for the vac
> if you want to press it and hold it down for a couple seconds, should start
> the neato
> to vacume.
> I forget the button on the left sense I never used it heh.
> As for setting up wi-fi with your phone, might want to call tech support and
> they can talk you through connecting the vac to your phone as long as you
> have sighted assistance with you.
> You will need your wi-fi password to enter into the app as well.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 5:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: For Jenifer: Fwd: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Thanks Sandy.
> I did get the Neato vacuum.  The proble I'm having now?  connecting
> it.  LOL. My friend says Wi-Fi is on and my Wi-Fi is checked, but my
> phone still won't find the vacuum.
> Also, what do the buttons do... the two near the bottom that you can
> actually feel?  And, how do you remove the canister?  If the canister
> is full, will it automatically go back to the base?
> 
> I'm sorry everyone for starting this thread again but I was moving and
> had so much going on, I thought I'd saved all of these emails for
> future reference.
> 
> Thanks
> Jen
> 
>> On 8/5/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Hi Jenifer,
>> 
>>Here is part of the thread that, I think, you are looking for. There
> is
>> also the Roomba 980, which was the Vac that we started with. So, I am not
>> sure which one you are looking for. The one I have and, which others on
> the
>> list have bought, is called the Neato BotVac Connected. Earlier Neato
>> Vacuums were not usable with an app, for this reason, if this is the
> device
>> you are interested in, you need to look at the BotVac with the name
>> Connected in the title from NeatoRobotics.
>> 
>> HTH, Sandy.
>> P.S. Mine is still doing great and works very well with the app!
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> Date: 5 July 2016 at 18:36:29 GMT+1
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>>> Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>>> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Hi Annie,
>>> 
>>> You shouldn't have to worry about your router, it should connect to
>>> whatever device and normally 2.4 Ghz is actually better with respect to
>>> signal quality, only thing is that if there are lots of 2.4 Ghz devices
>>> there can sometimes be interference.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 6:23 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>>> 
>>> 

Re: How do I remove a contact, that includes a Facebook contact

[William Inglis]

hi Rob, thanks for this, but can you remove multi contacts?, Billy

On 05/08/2016 09:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:

Open the offending contact,  click Edit, Delete button is right at the cottom,  
confirm on second Delete prompt.

- Original Message -
From: "Terri Stimmel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:04 AM
Subject: How do I remove a contact, that includes a Facebook contact


Hello everybody,

I have a very important question for my boyfriend.

He has a couple of contacts in his iPhone that you would like to remove.
However, he cannot seem to remove them, there is no delete button. Both of 
these contacts have Facebook information in his phone.
My boyfriend is not on Facebook, and never has been. We cannot seem to remove 
these contacts.

Also, sometimes one of the contacts name comes up, and ask him to enter their 
password for Facebook. I've never heard of such a
thing.
Why would this be happening? Is there a way to fix it?

Any help with this would be very, very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

Sent from my iPhone



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RE: For Jenifer: Fwd: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Jeremy Gilley]

Ok,
To answer one of your questions... if the canister is full, it will just
stop.
It will not go back to the base. You will need to find it and empty it
yourself.
The only times it returns to the base is if the vac needs to be charged, or
its done vacuming.
Secondly, the button on the front right is like a manual starter for the vac
if you want to press it and hold it down for a couple seconds, should start
the neato
 to vacume.
I forget the button on the left sense I never used it heh.
As for setting up wi-fi with your phone, might want to call tech support and
they can talk you through connecting the vac to your phone as long as you
have sighted assistance with you.
You will need your wi-fi password to enter into the app as well.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 5:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Jenifer: Fwd: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

Thanks Sandy.
I did get the Neato vacuum.  The proble I'm having now?  connecting
it.  LOL. My friend says Wi-Fi is on and my Wi-Fi is checked, but my
phone still won't find the vacuum.
Also, what do the buttons do... the two near the bottom that you can
actually feel?  And, how do you remove the canister?  If the canister
is full, will it automatically go back to the base?

I'm sorry everyone for starting this thread again but I was moving and
had so much going on, I thought I'd saved all of these emails for
future reference.

Thanks
Jen

On 8/5/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi Jenifer,
>
> Here is part of the thread that, I think, you are looking for. There
is
> also the Roomba 980, which was the Vac that we started with. So, I am not
> sure which one you are looking for. The one I have and, which others on
the
> list have bought, is called the Neato BotVac Connected. Earlier Neato
> Vacuums were not usable with an app, for this reason, if this is the
device
> you are interested in, you need to look at the BotVac with the name
> Connected in the title from NeatoRobotics.
>
> HTH, Sandy.
> P.S. Mine is still doing great and works very well with the app!
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>> Date: 5 July 2016 at 18:36:29 GMT+1
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>> Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Hi Annie,
>>
>> You shouldn't have to worry about your router, it should connect to
>> whatever device and normally 2.4 Ghz is actually better with respect to
>> signal quality, only thing is that if there are lots of 2.4 Ghz devices
>> there can sometimes be interference.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 6:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>>
>> Annie,
>> I do know this for certain, but back will not work on the highest setting
>> of your router. now, whether they will change this in the future, or, how
>> easy it would be for you to change the setting yourself when needed, I
>> don't know.
>>
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>
>>> On 3 Jul 2016, at 13:40, Annie Skov Nielsen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sandra.
>>>
>>> Yes I would love one of these vacuum cleaners, I need sighted assistance
>>> for vacuum cleaning, and if that could be saved sometimes, it could mean
>>> a little more freedom to me. My only problem now is if I would get in
>>> trouble with all my 5 ghz attached items. The 2.4 ghz is not working as
>>> good as the 5 ghz network. I have talked to my brother he thinks it
ought
>>> to work, but he is also blind, but he knows a lot about routers, that is
>>> not something that I am an expert in.
>>>
>>> Best regards Annie.
 Den 3. jul. 2016 kl. 14.27 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
 :

 Annie,
 If your router is set to the 2.4, you should be good to go! You could
 always double check by going to neato robotics.calm and look on their
 help/support pages.

 does this mean you're thinking of going for it? Wi-Fi not with
standing?
 my partner, fully sighted, reckons he could talk a person through
 tapping In the right places using face time. but I think the neato
 people would be better! However, lettuce know if we can help.
 Good luck, Sandy

 sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 3 Jul 2016, at 12:51, Annie Skov Nielsen
>  wrote:
>
> Hi Sandra.
>
> I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt
> if that can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5
> ghz, but I am in doubt if I will need to 

Re: For Jenifer: Fwd: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Sandy.
I did get the Neato vacuum.  The proble I'm having now?  connecting
it.  LOL. My friend says Wi-Fi is on and my Wi-Fi is checked, but my
phone still won't find the vacuum.
Also, what do the buttons do... the two near the bottom that you can
actually feel?  And, how do you remove the canister?  If the canister
is full, will it automatically go back to the base?

I'm sorry everyone for starting this thread again but I was moving and
had so much going on, I thought I'd saved all of these emails for
future reference.

Thanks
Jen

On 8/5/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi Jenifer,
>
> Here is part of the thread that, I think, you are looking for. There is
> also the Roomba 980, which was the Vac that we started with. So, I am not
> sure which one you are looking for. The one I have and, which others on the
> list have bought, is called the Neato BotVac Connected. Earlier Neato
> Vacuums were not usable with an app, for this reason, if this is the device
> you are interested in, you need to look at the BotVac with the name
> Connected in the title from NeatoRobotics.
>
> HTH, Sandy.
> P.S. Mine is still doing great and works very well with the app!
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>> Date: 5 July 2016 at 18:36:29 GMT+1
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>> Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Hi Annie,
>>
>> You shouldn't have to worry about your router, it should connect to
>> whatever device and normally 2.4 Ghz is actually better with respect to
>> signal quality, only thing is that if there are lots of 2.4 Ghz devices
>> there can sometimes be interference.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 6:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
>>
>> Annie,
>> I do know this for certain, but back will not work on the highest setting
>> of your router. now, whether they will change this in the future, or, how
>> easy it would be for you to change the setting yourself when needed, I
>> don't know.
>>
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>
>>> On 3 Jul 2016, at 13:40, Annie Skov Nielsen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sandra.
>>>
>>> Yes I would love one of these vacuum cleaners, I need sighted assistance
>>> for vacuum cleaning, and if that could be saved sometimes, it could mean
>>> a little more freedom to me. My only problem now is if I would get in
>>> trouble with all my 5 ghz attached items. The 2.4 ghz is not working as
>>> good as the 5 ghz network. I have talked to my brother he thinks it ought
>>> to work, but he is also blind, but he knows a lot about routers, that is
>>> not something that I am an expert in.
>>>
>>> Best regards Annie.
 Den 3. jul. 2016 kl. 14.27 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
 :

 Annie,
 If your router is set to the 2.4, you should be good to go! You could
 always double check by going to neato robotics.calm and look on their
 help/support pages.

 does this mean you're thinking of going for it? Wi-Fi not with standing?
 my partner, fully sighted, reckons he could talk a person through
 tapping In the right places using face time. but I think the neato
 people would be better! However, lettuce know if we can help.
 Good luck, Sandy

 sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 3 Jul 2016, at 12:51, Annie Skov Nielsen
>  wrote:
>
> Hi Sandra.
>
> I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt
> if that can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5
> ghz, but I am in doubt if I will need to change network to the
> speciffic 2,4 when I need to use the vacuum cleaner? With sonos I can
> use my normal network, but will it be the same with the bootvac, I am
> not intirely sure?
>
> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> :
>>
>> Annie,
>>
>> As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set
>> up the wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch
>> screen is not at all accessible.
>>
>> I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the
>> 500 channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the
>> numbers are only approximates, but, basically, routers run on two
>> different levels, most, however, seem to be using the right one for
>> the Vacuum so, worth checking this out first?) going back to my
>> original sentence, so long as your router is right, I estimate that

Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Mário Navarro]

hi Shawn.

you are part of the group list of beta testers in IOS 10?
if so, please send me the subscription address for me to join the group.
I also installed the beta and want to contribute with my feedback to 
improve the system.

thanks.
cheers.

Às 15:50 de 02/08/2016, Shawn Krasniuk escreveu:

Hi Mario. The only time it'll delete any apps is if you don't have enough space 
on your iPhone. But once it's done with the update they should download again. 
Gordon, since we can't talk about improvements or bugs in beta software on this 
list, you can email me off list and I could share my findings with you.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Gordon  wrote:

Is anyone out here currently running the beta? A couple of weeks ago one of my 
buddies was running it and he said it went through his battery and a lot of 
apps weren't working with it yet. So I was wondering if this has changed since 
a couple of weeks ago. I'm interested in trying it if it's stable enough.


On 8/2/2016 7:58 AM, Afik Sofir wrote:

Mario,

No, it won't remove anything.

www.beta.apple.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M?rio Navarro
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:41 PM
To: iphone group
Subject: IOS 10 beta.




hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.


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Re: IOS 10 beta.

[Mário Navarro]

hi Rajmond.
you are part of the group list of beta testers in IOS 10?
if so, please send me the subscription address for me to join the group.
I also installed the beta and want to contribute with my feedback to 
improve the system.

thanks.
cheers.
Às 21:50 de 03/08/2016, Rajmund escreveu:

LOL, thought we weren't meant to discuss betas here? Anyway, I'll be honest, 
wait till bbeta 4. I've not had any issues that I couldn't deal with until now. 
If anyone would like to know the issues, please ping a message off list.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Monica Jones  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:01 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta.



When I tested nine, I didn't lose my apps. I was hesitant to try it, but the
tech nerd in me wanted to try. That Beta really messed up my phone, often to
the point that I couldn't use it till it decided to work. I'd love to test
the ten beta but scared too. If I did a backup in ITunes before I did it, it
may or not resolve the issues. If it just had a few quirky bugs in my phone,
I could deal. However, I don't want to risk my phone not being usable. Any
thoughts?


-Original Message-
From: Mário Navarro
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:40 AM
To: iphone group
Subject: IOS 10 beta.




hi all.
someone can tell me about the following:
I want to test IOS 10 beta, but I have a question.
to install the beta, apps that are already installed on ios 9.3.3 are
removed or the beta of IOS 10Do not remove anything in the system?
I just tested a beta iOS 8 to 9, and no longer remember me if the apps
were removed or not.
Does anyone know?
thanks.
cheers.

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Re: ot seamonkey questions

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi Devin. I looked in preference can't find where to change my starting url. 
Thanks. Can you let me know which option it is? thanks.

Rebecca and Zeb
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> On Aug 4, 2016, at 6:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> All can be set in the preferences window. Find it in the edit menu. I use it 
> on Linux, but Windows is the same. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.  Does anyone use seamonkey?  Here are my questions.
>> 
>> 1.  How do you make it your default web browser?
>> 
>> 2.  How do you change the start up page to go to a different web site?  
>> Thanks.
>> 
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For Jenifer: Fwd: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi Jenifer,

Here is part of the thread that, I think, you are looking for. There is 
also the Roomba 980, which was the Vac that we started with. So, I am not sure 
which one you are looking for. The one I have and, which others on the list 
have bought, is called the Neato BotVac Connected. Earlier Neato Vacuums were 
not usable with an app, for this reason, if this is the device you are 
interested in, you need to look at the BotVac with the name Connected in the 
title from NeatoRobotics.

HTH, Sandy. 
P.S. Mine is still doing great and works very well with the app!

sent from the dark side of the moon

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Date: 5 July 2016 at 18:36:29 GMT+1
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
> Subject: RE: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi Annie,
> 
> You shouldn't have to worry about your router, it should connect to whatever 
> device and normally 2.4 Ghz is actually better with respect to signal 
> quality, only thing is that if there are lots of 2.4 Ghz devices there can 
> sometimes be interference.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 6:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small update on the BotVac app accessibility.
> 
> Annie,
> I do know this for certain, but back will not work on the highest setting of 
> your router. now, whether they will change this in the future, or, how easy 
> it would be for you to change the setting yourself when needed, I don't know.
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 3 Jul 2016, at 13:40, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandra.
>> 
>> Yes I would love one of these vacuum cleaners, I need sighted assistance for 
>> vacuum cleaning, and if that could be saved sometimes, it could mean a 
>> little more freedom to me. My only problem now is if I would get in trouble 
>> with all my 5 ghz attached items. The 2.4 ghz is not working as good as the 
>> 5 ghz network. I have talked to my brother he thinks it ought to work, but 
>> he is also blind, but he knows a lot about routers, that is not something 
>> that I am an expert in.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 3. jul. 2016 kl. 14.27 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Annie,
>>> If your router is set to the 2.4, you should be good to go! You could 
>>> always double check by going to neato robotics.calm and look on their 
>>> help/support pages.
>>> 
>>> does this mean you're thinking of going for it? Wi-Fi not with standing? my 
>>> partner, fully sighted, reckons he could talk a person through tapping In 
>>> the right places using face time. but I think the neato people would be 
>>> better! However, lettuce know if we can help.
>>> Good luck, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 3 Jul 2016, at 12:51, Annie Skov Nielsen  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Sandra.
 
 I have cheked it, it uses the 2,4 ghz standard. I am a little in doubt if 
 that can give me problems. My router supports both the 2,4 and 5 ghz, but 
 I am in doubt if I will need to change network to the speciffic 2,4 when I 
 need to use the vacuum cleaner? With sonos I can use my normal network, 
 but will it be the same with the bootvac, I am not intirely sure?
 
 Best regards Annie.
> Den 1. jul. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> :
> 
> Annie,
> 
> As things stand, at the moment, we do need sighted assistance to set up 
> the wifi. The person doesn't need to be tech savvy, but the touch screen 
> is not at all accessible.
> 
> I would estimate, so long as your router is using the 250  and not the 
> 500 channel, (Annie, I probably have put that wrong and even the numbers 
> are only approximates, but, basically, routers run on two different 
> levels, most, however, seem to be using the right one for the Vacuum so, 
> worth checking this out first?) going back to my original sentence, so 
> long as your router is right, I estimate that you should only need this 
> sighted assistance for about 10 minutes. It actually only takes about 1 
> minute, or less, to set up the wifi on the vac, but you then have to do 
> some stuff on your phone. All this, we can do, no problem, but, if it 
> goes wrong, as with me, first time (putting in the password to the wifi 
> wrongly) or as it did with Marie, you might need to get the sighted 
> assistant to set up the wifi again on the Bot.
> 
> What we need is someone who can see well enough and has patience enough 
> (my partner only qualifies on one front, so he's no use to me for this!) 
> because, I think that each screen of the 

Re: Roomba (or however you spell it) thread?

[Robert Doc Wright]

The one I remember posted here was sold in the U.K.
***
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep 
picking it back up! 
- Original Message - 
From: Jenifer Barr 
To: iPhone List 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:03 AM
Subject: Roomba (or however you spell it) thread?


Hi all. So I accidentally deleted the info on this vacuum cleaner that (if I 
got it right... Works with the iPhone? Can someone send me any podcasts or 
instructions that were given? I'm thinking of getting one. Where did you all 
get it? How well does it work? I'm really sorry I lost the info. 
Thanks in advance. 

Jenifer Barr
Jenifer571 on dice world
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