Re: Voice speech samples.

[Brett]

Hi, 

Can you let us know the steps you are using to get there? 

I go to Settings, General, VoiceOver, speech. I then tap on the language, the 
default voice is shown, I tap on it. This opens a dialog showing the available 
voices. There is a Play Sample button next to each available voice. Clicking 
this button plays the sample. 

If this doesn't work, I don't know what else to suggest. 


Cheers Brett. 


> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 7:34 am, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)  
> wrote:
> 
> Hm, not on my phone it doesn’t. I have tried everything I can think of; 
> double-tapping on it, going into edit, etc.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice speech samples.
>  
>  
> Hi, 
>  
> You need to download the high quality voice, but you can try the low quality 
> voice without downloading anything. 
>  
> Remember you first need to switch to that language first, so it gets loaded 
> when you tap on it. 
> 
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
>  
> 
> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 7:03 am, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello list. I hope this has not already been discussed, but I need to know 
> how to hear the speech samples of the different voices offered in iOS 10. I 
> am using an iPhone 6S with 10.2. Do you have to download each one to hear the 
> sample? I can’t seem to figure this out; please help!
> Thanks.
> Lucy Edmonds
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[rajmund]

Hi Mary, I tend to flick the mute switch, and once it vibrates, I 
triple click.  I guess that's when you had to.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten Subject: Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without 
sided help


Hi Rajmund,
I guess my problem was, I didn't know quite when to do the triple 
click home.  The first thing that came up was that business with 
the rotating languages, where you have to pick the one you want 
to use.  I guess I was expecting some notification about turning 
on voiceover with triple click home.  There wasn't one of those, 
at least if there was, my husband didn't see it.  So I didn't 
actually click triple click home.  Everything turned out OK in 
the end.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:29 PM, rajmund  
wrote:


Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided 
help


Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out 
from scratch, hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been 
having would go away.  So I didn't just plug it into my Mac and 
go right away from my encrypted backup.  I started from scratch.  
And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover or 
letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not 
been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while 
since I've tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought 
Apple had a way that would let you turn voiceover on right at the 
beginning of the process.  This was missing.  What didn't I do 
that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended up 
doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from 
scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and 
still have.  But I was really surprised that there wasn't 
anything enabling me to start voice over from the get-go.

Mary


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Re: Ios's Braille keyboard making Hashtags and other signs?

[Chris Chaffin]

For the hash tag or number sign, dots 4-5-6 and dots 1-4-5-6.
For the percent sign, dots 4-6 and dots 3-5-6.

Chris


> On Oct 3, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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> Greetings listers
> Using iOs9.3.5 on an IPhone 4S using its Braille virtual keyboard, what's the 
> Braille signs for the Hashtag as in what Twitter"uses for its Trendy Topics, 
> and the percentage sign? I've tried every combination proceeded with Dot4 but 
> no go for Brailling these two signs! The only one I discovered works with 
> Dot4, is Dot4+d for the dollar sign, as in $65. Thanks for info.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
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Re: opening iPhone after installing IOS 10

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Go into settings, General, Accessibility, and just after Call Routing, you will 
find a setting for the Home button. Open that and set, rest finger on home 
button to on. It defaults to off. This allows you to use your fingerprint to 
open the phone. And, it will take one less press of the home button to open the 
device without a passcode.
HTH,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Mr. Ed 
mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
After I installed IOS 10 on my iPad and on my wife's IPhone when you press the 
home button the screen that opens has the time, date and then you have to 
double tap on the home button on the screen then it opens to the icon screen. 
On my iPhone when I use the finger print reader and push the home button my 
iPhone you to open right up to the icon screen. Now it opens up to a screen 
that has the time, date and the home button on it. How do I get my devices to 
open to the icon screen again like they did in IOS 9?
Ed

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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Richard Turner]

Mary, in the past, at that point, where the language choice comes up, even 
though there was no prompting, the triple click home would turn on voiceOver. I 
had set up several phones that way without any sighted help at all.
I just do not know if that would have worked with iOS 10.
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:45 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Rajmund,
I guess my problem was, I didn't know quite when to do the triple click home. 
The first thing that came up was that business with the rotating languages, 
where you have to pick the one you want to use. I guess I was expecting some 
notification about turning on voiceover with triple click home. There wasn't 
one of those, at least if there was, my husband didn't see it. So I didn't 
actually click triple click home. Everything turned out OK in the end.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:29 PM, rajmund 
mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So I 
didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup.  I 
started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover 
or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not been 
there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since I've tried 
setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way that would let 
you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  This was missing. 
 What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended 
up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from scratch didn't 
fix any of the problems I had been having and still have.  But I was really 
surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start voice over from the 
get-go.
Mary


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Re: accounting apps

[Robert Doc Wright]

Is there any way to stop it from jumping out of the cells and landing on the 
workbook heading?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Chaffin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 6:59 PM
  Subject: Re: accounting apps




  For column navigation, I turn on vertical navigation on the rotor.  This will 
allow you to just flick up or down to move by row within a column.
  So while I am using the excel app, I always just turn my rotor to vertical 
navigation, then I can swipe left and right to move along a row, or flick up or 
down to move along a column.


  Now to add vertical navigation to the rotor, just go to Settings / General / 
Accessibility / Voice Over, swipe down to rotor, and then choose vertical 
navigation in the list.
  I hope this helps.


  Chris



  On Oct 2, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


chris write me off list if necessary but I am curious to know how do you 
move down a column in Excel. that is what frustrated me the most when trying to 
use it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Chaffin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 7:35 AM
  Subject: Re: accounting apps




  I do not know how good it works with a braille display, but for myself, I 
just use a excel spreadsheet.  This way I can customize it the way I want it.


  Chris



  On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:51 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


I am needing to know if there is a good, VoiceOver accessible 
accounting app that also works well with a bluetooth braille display.
We have a client needing to keep track of a few accounts, expenses, 
income, etc.
Thanks,
Richard




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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Hi Rajmund, 
I guess my problem was, I didn't know quite when to do the triple click home. 
The first thing that came up was that business with the rotating languages, 
where you have to pick the one you want to use. I guess I was expecting some 
notification about turning on voiceover with triple click home. There wasn't 
one of those, at least if there was, my husband didn't see it. So I didn't 
actually click triple click home. Everything turned out OK in the end.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:29 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
> Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help
> 
> Hi all,
> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So 
> I didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup. 
>  I started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me about 
> voiceover or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had 
> not been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since I've 
> tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way that 
> would let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  This 
> was missing.  What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went 
> ahead and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up 
> from scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still have. 
>  But I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start 
> voice over from the get-go.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Yes, iOS 10 was already installed.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have not set up an iPhone since the 6, but triple clicking home turned on 
> VoiceOver right after the phone powered up.
> Now, if it has iOS 10 installed by default, that could be the problem. iOS 10 
> seems to be defaulting with the triple click home on "Ask," because the new 
> magnifier is on. Was iOS 10 already installed?
> And since you have not been able to turn on Siri, you couldn't have used Siri 
> to turn it on.
> That will be frustrating.
> Richard
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:30 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mary Otten > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
>> Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
>> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So 
>> I didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted 
>> backup.  I started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me 
>> about voiceover or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband 
>> had not been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since 
>> I've tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way 
>> that would let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  
>> This was missing.  What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I 
>> went ahead and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set 
>> up from scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still 
>> have.  But I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to 
>> start voice over from the get-go.
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Thanks for your offer. I got the phone set up just fine. It's interesting that 
my husband, who is cited, didn't see anything about skipping anything about 
VoiceOver turning it on etc. He did some initial set up. Then I turned on 
voiceover, once the screen was up after the initial set up. Then it I ended up 
going back and just using my encrypted backup, since it was going to be a fair 
amount of work to set up the apps like I had them before, and my attempt to get 
rid of some problems I was having was not successful. So I just use mine crept 
back up, and everything is OK.
Mary


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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marry and all.first of all, congratulations on your new iPhone.
> In the Initial setting, you need to turn on VoiceOver by clicking triple tap 
> on the home butten. If the button "skip" not pressed accedently you mmight to 
> be in the initial setting that allow to you to activate VoiceOver. If you not 
> made in the past, i am ready help you on skype or every way that you wanted. 
> Inorder to eto do the process correct.
> 
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ‫ב-4 באוק׳ 2016, בשעה 4:03, ‏‏Mary Otten ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus. I decided to start out from scratch, 
>> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away. So 
>> I didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted 
>> backup. I started from scratch. And there was nothing at all telling me 
>> about voiceover or letting me turn it on or anything. If my sighted husband 
>> had not been there, I would have been out of luck. It's been a while since 
>> I've tried setting up a device from scratch. But I thought Apple had a way 
>> that would let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process. 
>> This was missing. What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I 
>> went ahead and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set 
>> up from scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still 
>> have. But I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to 
>> start voice over from the get-go.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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opening iPhone after installing IOS 10

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Everyone,

After I installed IOS 10 on my iPad and on my wife's IPhone when you press
the home button the screen that opens has the time, date and then you have
to double tap on the home button on the screen then it opens to the icon
screen. On my iPhone when I use the finger print reader and push the home
button my iPhone you to open right up to the icon screen. Now it opens up to
a screen that has the time, date and the home button on it. How do I get my
devices to open to the icon screen again like they did in IOS 9?

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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון]

Hi Marry and all.first of all, congratulations on your new iPhone.
In the Initial setting, you need to turn on VoiceOver by clicking triple tap on 
the home butten. If the button "skip" not pressed accedently you mmight to be 
in the initial setting that allow to you to activate VoiceOver. If you not made 
in the past, i am ready help you on skype or every way that you wanted. Inorder 
to eto do the process correct.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-4 באוק׳ 2016, בשעה 4:03, ‏‏Mary Otten ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Hi all,
> I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus. I decided to start out from scratch, 
> hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away. So I 
> didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup. I 
> started from scratch. And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover 
> or letting me turn it on or anything. If my sighted husband had not been 
> there, I would have been out of luck. It's been a while since I've tried 
> setting up a device from scratch. But I thought Apple had a way that would 
> let you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process. This was 
> missing. What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead 
> and ended up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from 
> scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and still have. But 
> I was really surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start voice 
> over from the get-go.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Richard Turner]

I have not set up an iPhone since the 6, but triple clicking home turned on 
VoiceOver right after the phone powered up.
Now, if it has iOS 10 installed by default, that could be the problem. iOS 10 
seems to be defaulting with the triple click home on "Ask," because the new 
magnifier is on. Was iOS 10 already installed?
And since you have not been able to turn on Siri, you couldn't have used Siri 
to turn it on.
That will be frustrating.
Richard


"By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:30 PM, rajmund 
mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

Sent from a BrailleNote

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From: Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:03:22 -0700
Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from scratch, 
hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away.  So I 
didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup.  I 
started from scratch.  And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover 
or letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not been 
there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while since I've tried 
setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought Apple had a way that would let 
you turn voiceover on right at the beginning of the process.  This was missing. 
 What didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended 
up doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from scratch didn't 
fix any of the problems I had been having and still have.  But I was really 
surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start voice over from the 
get-go.
Mary


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re: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[rajmund]

Hi Mary, did triple clicking the home button didn't work?

Sent from a BrailleNote

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From: Mary Otten Subject: Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided 
help


Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus.  I decided to start out from 
scratch, hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been 
having would go away.  So I didn't just plug it into my Mac and 
go right away from my encrypted backup.  I started from scratch.  
And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover or 
letting me turn it on or anything.  If my sighted husband had not 
been there, I would have been out of luck.  It's been a while 
since I've tried setting up a device from scratch.  But I thought 
Apple had a way that would let you turn voiceover on right at the 
beginning of the process.  This was missing.  What didn't I do 
that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended up 
doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from 
scratch didn't fix any of the problems I had been having and 
still have.  But I was really surprised that there wasn't 
anything enabling me to start voice over from the get-go.

Mary


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Re: Locked screen

[rajmund]

Hi, actually, sut voice over's volume to 100, and decrease the 
main volume.  That will lower your click sounds, if the main 
volume is lowered.


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- Original Message -
From: Aleeha Dudley You will need to have your VoiceOver sound effects on for this to 
work.

Thanks,
Aleeha

On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A.  -ND 
 wrote:


I am trying to figure out how to just have the sound played when 
locking the screen, so it won't say "Screen Locked".  I believe I 
saw what to change in settings on this list, but I am not finding 
it.


Can anyone refresh my memory?




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on 
behalf of pegkan...@gmail.com [pegkan...@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Locked screen

Also, if you hit the side button on your phone I think it's 
called the sleep wake button when the screen is locked it will 
make a funny noise.


Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is 
locked.


Richard


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Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Locked screen

I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen 
Locked

any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
Lynda,

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Ios's Braille keyboard making Hashtags and other signs?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Greetings listers
Using iOs9.3.5 on an IPhone 4S using its Braille virtual keyboard, what's the 
Braille signs for the Hashtag as in what Twitter"uses for its Trendy Topics, 
and the percentage sign? I've tried every combination proceeded with Dot4 but 
no go for Brailling these two signs! The only one I discovered works with Dot4, 
is Dot4+d for the dollar sign, as in $65. Thanks for info.

Gera
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Re: accounting apps

[Robert Doc Wright]

Is there any way to stop it from jumping out of the cells and landing on the 
workbook heading?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Chaffin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 6:59 PM
  Subject: Re: accounting apps




  For column navigation, I turn on vertical navigation on the rotor.  This will 
allow you to just flick up or down to move by row within a column.
  So while I am using the excel app, I always just turn my rotor to vertical 
navigation, then I can swipe left and right to move along a row, or flick up or 
down to move along a column.


  Now to add vertical navigation to the rotor, just go to Settings / General / 
Accessibility / Voice Over, swipe down to rotor, and then choose vertical 
navigation in the list.
  I hope this helps.


  Chris



  On Oct 2, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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chris write me off list if necessary but I am curious to know how do you 
move down a column in Excel. that is what frustrated me the most when trying to 
use it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Chaffin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 7:35 AM
  Subject: Re: accounting apps




  I do not know how good it works with a braille display, but for myself, I 
just use a excel spreadsheet.  This way I can customize it the way I want it.


  Chris



  On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:51 PM, Richard Turner 
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I am needing to know if there is a good, VoiceOver accessible 
accounting app that also works well with a bluetooth braille display.
We have a client needing to keep track of a few accounts, expenses, 
income, etc.
Thanks,
Richard




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Setting up an iPhone without iTunes and without sided help

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
I recently got my new iPhone 7 Plus. I decided to start out from scratch, 
hoping that maybe some of the problems I have been having would go away. So I 
didn't just plug it into my Mac and go right away from my encrypted backup. I 
started from scratch. And there was nothing at all telling me about voiceover 
or letting me turn it on or anything. If my sighted husband had not been there, 
I would have been out of luck. It's been a while since I've tried setting up a 
device from scratch. But I thought Apple had a way that would let you turn 
voiceover on right at the beginning of the process. This was missing. What 
didn't I do that I should've done? It turned out I went ahead and ended up 
doing my encrypted backup restoration, since the set up from scratch didn't fix 
any of the problems I had been having and still have. But I was really 
surprised that there wasn't anything enabling me to start voice over from the 
get-go.
Mary


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Re: accounting apps

[Robert Doc Wright]

I'm going to try it. I use Excel for my bowling league stats

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Chaffin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 6:59 PM
  Subject: Re: accounting apps




  For column navigation, I turn on vertical navigation on the rotor.  This will 
allow you to just flick up or down to move by row within a column.
  So while I am using the excel app, I always just turn my rotor to vertical 
navigation, then I can swipe left and right to move along a row, or flick up or 
down to move along a column.


  Now to add vertical navigation to the rotor, just go to Settings / General / 
Accessibility / Voice Over, swipe down to rotor, and then choose vertical 
navigation in the list.
  I hope this helps.


  Chris



  On Oct 2, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


chris write me off list if necessary but I am curious to know how do you 
move down a column in Excel. that is what frustrated me the most when trying to 
use it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Chaffin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 7:35 AM
  Subject: Re: accounting apps




  I do not know how good it works with a braille display, but for myself, I 
just use a excel spreadsheet.  This way I can customize it the way I want it.


  Chris



  On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:51 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


I am needing to know if there is a good, VoiceOver accessible 
accounting app that also works well with a bluetooth braille display.
We have a client needing to keep track of a few accounts, expenses, 
income, etc.
Thanks,
Richard




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Annoying Buffering Behavior Gone in IOS 10

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

When I read Carol's recent post about Voiceover reading text that seemed to be 
trapped in the buffer, it reminded me of a somewhat similar situation I was 
having.  After I apparently had used the wrong gesture to label a folder called 
"Cooking", Voiceover would say "Cooking" every time I changed screens, moved to 
the first app on a screen, moved from the main screen into the doc, etc.   This 
behavior had then replicated itself to my other devices.

Apple accessibility was not able to find a solution, so I heard a lot of 
"Cooking".

I am very happy to say that when I updated to IOS 10, as with Carol, this 
annoying behavior is gone.

So if anyone else is having some kind of strange buffering behavior, it may be 
worth upgrading.  It definitely was for me.

Pam



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RE: Moving app from one folder to another?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can also perform the scrub gesture to close a folder after you tagged an 
app to be moved. The other way is perfectly fine, but the scrub gesture is 
faster and it's just another quicker way to accomplish the same thing.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 5:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moving app from one folder to another?

Thanks Arnold! I didn't see that but will look closer next time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
After tapping the move app icon when in a folder, after it says choose a 
destination, notice that there is an extra option. Swipe up and it will say 
drop app from folder. Tap this, it will close the folder, and the app you are 
moving is ready  to be moved  to its  new destination.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 30, 2016, at 4:03 PM, Joseph Hudson 
mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, that is the gesture that you have to use.
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On Sep 30, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Jenifer Barr 
mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ok Kim... I don't use that gesture often... isn't that the one where you scrub 
your finger back and forth? lol. Guess I gotta start using it.
Thanks
Jen

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 30, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Kimber Gardner 
mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Jen,

Rather than pressing home to exit the folder, try the two finger scrub
gesture. That will close the folder without taking you out of editing
mode.



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wrote:


Hi.
Can someone tell me how to move an app from one folder to another? I can't
exit the folder where said app is to move it without pressing home, right?
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: IOS 10 update Samantha sounds fuzzy

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Hi there,

I had something very similar! Yes, I certainly had problems with the 
voices when I downloaded all the best  speaking voices, only to find 
that they sounded absolutely awful after the upgrade and I just couldn't 
bear to listen to them like that! I couldn't crank up the volume much 
above 50 percent as reading became too tedious and annoying. I Actually 
complained to The Accessability Team but then, seeing a message from 
Rajmund, I decided to give his advice a shot. Three or four times I 
ended up flashing my phone to clear out any rubbish stuck in the system, 
and finally I managed to get a result! :-) Now, my voices sound clear 
and I am happy once again!


I know that I tried twice to do the reset where you hold down the Home 
and lock screen key for 10 seconds, I then tried all sorts and must say 
that some things were not terribly authentic! :-) However, I did get it 
working but couldn't tell you quite everything I  did because I can't 
remember properly! No doubt, some who know better than I, can tell you 
exactly how to do the resets properly! :-)


I do hope that gets you there. Please let me know as I am interested to 
see how this one goes.


(The rest of this message may be interesting to some but is a little 
long so feel free to skip if you're not interested once you start 
reading on.)


Whilst writing, some may remember that I mentioned a bug in my phone 
after  I had been inputting in Braille, when it had some text trapped 
somewhere in its buffer... At the time, various people suggested a few 
things to me but I don't think they'd really grasped the problem. It had 
occurred when I'd written a message to a friend in Braille with the 
Smart Beetle. This was before the upgrade, when Braille wasn't behaving 
very well and I was just learning the Beetle. I got frustrated and 
deleted the message! From that time onwards, over a number of weeks, 
Each time I dictated to Siri and he got it a little bit screwed up and I 
corrected with the backspace key to delete to remove those characters 
the phone would read out about three sentences of the message I had 
attempted to write to a friend and had deleted it those weeks back. I 
could still delete characters but couldn't stop this piece of texst from 
reading each time.I even selected it and played it again, using the four 
times three-finger tap, and there it was again! I also did various 
resets at that point without success. I knew, the only thing to do was 
to wait till the upgrade and, as the system was renewed and changed, it 
would probably go away. Well, it did! HURRAY!


Gremlins, for sure!


Carol P - Sent from my iPhone :)


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Hi: I've installed IOS10 and with voice over, using "Samantha" the voice 
sounds funny and sort of distorted. Have any of you experienced this? If 
so, what should I do about it?

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Re: Locked screen

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I wish, but the only way to do this is to lower VoiceOver’s volume.
Aleeha 
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah, thanks, that is why I couldn't get it to work.  
> 
> Is there a way to lower the volume of the sound affects without lowering any 
> other volumes?  I find them somewhat intrusive.
> 
> Thanks.
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Aleeha 
> Dudley [blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Locked screen
> 
> Hello,
> You will need to have your VoiceOver sound effects on for this to work.
> Thanks,
> Aleeha
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am trying to figure out how to just have the sound played when locking the 
>> screen, so it won't say "Screen Locked".  I believe I saw what to change in 
>> settings on this list, but I am not finding it.
>> 
>> Can anyone refresh my memory?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
>> pegkan...@gmail.com [pegkan...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Locked screen
>> 
>> Also, if you hit the side button on your phone I think it's called the sleep 
>> wake button when the screen is locked it will make a funny noise.
>> 
>> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
>>> It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
>>> Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is locked.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 8:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Locked screen
>>> 
>>> I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked
>>> any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
>>> Lynda,
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RE: Locked screen

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Ah, thanks, that is why I couldn't get it to work.  

Is there a way to lower the volume of the sound affects without lowering any 
other volumes?  I find them somewhat intrusive.

Thanks.
Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Aleeha 
Dudley [blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Locked screen

Hello,
You will need to have your VoiceOver sound effects on for this to work.
Thanks,
Aleeha

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
>
> I am trying to figure out how to just have the sound played when locking the 
> screen, so it won't say "Screen Locked".  I believe I saw what to change in 
> settings on this list, but I am not finding it.
>
> Can anyone refresh my memory?
>
>
>
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
> pegkan...@gmail.com [pegkan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Locked screen
>
> Also, if you hit the side button on your phone I think it's called the sleep 
> wake button when the screen is locked it will make a funny noise.
>
> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>
>
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
>> It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
>> Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is locked.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 8:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Locked screen
>>
>> I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked
>> any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
>> Lynda,
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Re: Locked screen

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hello, 
You will need to have your VoiceOver sound effects on for this to work. 
Thanks,
Aleeha 

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am trying to figure out how to just have the sound played when locking the 
> screen, so it won't say "Screen Locked".  I believe I saw what to change in 
> settings on this list, but I am not finding it.
> 
> Can anyone refresh my memory?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
> pegkan...@gmail.com [pegkan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Locked screen
> 
> Also, if you hit the side button on your phone I think it's called the sleep 
> wake button when the screen is locked it will make a funny noise.
> 
> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
>> It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
>> Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is locked.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 8:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Locked screen
>> 
>> I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked
>> any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
>> Lynda,
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RE: Locked screen

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

I am trying to figure out how to just have the sound played when locking the 
screen, so it won't say "Screen Locked".  I believe I saw what to change in 
settings on this list, but I am not finding it.

Can anyone refresh my memory?




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
pegkan...@gmail.com [pegkan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Locked screen

Also, if you hit the side button on your phone I think it's called the sleep 
wake button when the screen is locked it will make a funny noise.

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
> It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
> Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is locked.
>
> Richard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 8:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Locked screen
>
> I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked
> any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
> Lynda,
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Roger Update Released 10/2/16 was RE: Roger App

[Alan Lemly]

You might try upgrading to Roger version 2.0.5 which was released yesterday, 
10/2/16 to see if it improves things.

Alan Lemly

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Gary Ketler
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I don't know of any. Roger hasn't worked for me at all for a couple of days now.

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Beverly
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 5:49 PM
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Subject: Roger App

I have read many messages regarding the Roger app.  Does anyone know if there 
is a separate group to discuss the ins and outs of Roger?
 
 
Sincerely,
 
Beverly Hunter-Shackelford
Owner and Manager
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RE: App Store Issues

[Alan Lemly]

Well, I always put what I've actually experienced above what "those who have 
talked with Apple Accessibility."

Alan Lemly

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Chip Orange
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Those who have talked with Apple Accessibility are being told it's a problem 
specific to the latest version of IOS and Iphones.


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I've had this in process issue at various times across several different 
versions of iOS. I believe it is a hiccup with either the Apps Store or the 
Apple servers which just happens from time to time as opposed to a specific 
bug. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Joe  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone experienced an issue where the App Store refuses to show 
> results for apps you type into the Search? It says In Progress, 
> Loading, or some such, but it never gets around to showing results. My Wi-Fi 
> is working fine.
> Everything else seems to be working well. Any tips would be 
> appreciated. I'm a loser still on iOS 9, don't really plan to update 
> to iOS 10 until the rest of you figure out the glitches. (grin) Thanks 
> for any ideas on how to jumpstart this thing.
> 
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Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
This happens the first time you go into the edit mode for the
  widgets.
Just add one widget, no matter which one and confirm it. Go back
  in edit mode and there'll be named list of widgets to add.



  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

3.10.2016. u 21:23, Chris Chaffin je
  napisao/la:


  
  


I am not sure you were on the
  right screen.  Did you double tap on edit?


When you double tap on edit,
  the add widget screen comes up.  At the top left will be a
  cancel button, then as you swipe right, you will have a done
  button, then you should hear, add widgets.
If you swipe right one more
  time, next you should hear:
Get timely information from
  your favorite apps, at a glance. Add and organize your widgets
  below.


Now you will have a list of the
  widgets you currently have on your today screen.  For each
  one, you should hear the name of the widget, then a reorder
  button for that widget.  The reorder button is used to help
  you put your widgets in the order you want.
After you get done the list of
  widgets on your today screen, then you will have a list of
  widgets that you can add.  Before the name of each widget in
  this list will be an insert button.  You would use this button
  to add it to your today screen.


I hope this has been helpful.


Chris


  
  
On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:59 PM, regina alvarado 
wrote:

  
  

  
  
  
  Chris, I just tried the widget
screen by touching edit. Yes, as I flick down to the right I
have the widgets on my first screen. However, when I get to
the new widgets all I find is new-link and one more swipe
puts me on move new. No names are given. Could this mean I
do not have any widgets to download? M



Reggie and Lex


  
  
On Oct 3, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Chris Chaffin 
wrote:

  
  


  
  
  If you go to your Today
Screen or Widget Screen, and swipe to the bottom of the
screen, you will find and edit button.
  Double tap on the edit
button.  The screen you are now on will first list all
of the widgets that you currently have on your Today
Screen, then you will find a list of widgets that are
available that are not on your today screen but you can
add them if you like.
  Together, this will be
all of the widgets that you have on your device.  If it
is not in either list, then that app does not currently
have one.
  
  
  Hope this helps,
  
  
  Chris
  
  


  On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:01 AM, denise colley 
  wrote:
  


  




  How
  do you know if a particular ap has a widget?
   
  Denise
   
  From:
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  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Devin Prater
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:59 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: new wigits screen... page one
  of home screen
   
  
To get new widgets, download an
  app that has a widget you want. Some apps, like
  goodreads or Kindle come with widgets.
  
  

  

  

  

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Gmail.
 

Re: Question about keyboard click sounds

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
How did you manage to have clicks with BSI? I hear clicks only
  when I delete characters but I don't hear them while typing.
Thanks for your answer.



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Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

3.10.2016. u 18:24, Kerri Stovall je
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  Hey list,
  

  

  This may or may not be a
strange question. Is there a way to get the keyboard
clicks to sound when typing with a third party keyboard,
like a braille display or a bluetooth keyboard? I have
my hardware keyboard set to nothing, as far as typing
feedback, so I tried selecting words, just to see if
that made a difference, and it didn't, so is there, or
is there not, a way to do this? I'd like it to make the
clicking sound as I type, so that I know that my text is
being entered, without having to set the typing feedback
to echo words. Now, when I use braille screen input, the
clicks are there, but not when I use hardware keyboards.
Thanks all.
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Re: IOS 10 and "finish moving insertion point"

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Try to be more gentle with your touch or disable 3D Touch or put
  it on lower sensibility.



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Hello,
I just updated to IOS 10 on my IPhone 6s. I
  am puzzled on the voiceover message that reads “finish moving
  insertion point" as I try to enter text into an edit box. This
  occurs in edit boxes with text messaging, Safari, e-mail and
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Re: IOS 10 update Samantha sounds fuzzy

[Lois Butterfield]

You should check to see if you have the compact or enhanced Samantha.  To me, 
the enhanced sounds distorted, and this usually downloads automatically when 
updating.  This is in settings, voice over, and speech.

Take care,
Lois


From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr. 
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Subject: IOS 10 update Samantha sounds fuzzy

Hi: I've installed IOS10 and with voice over, using "Samantha" the voice sounds 
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IOS 10 update Samantha sounds fuzzy

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Hi: I've installed IOS10 and with voice over, using "Samantha" the voice
sounds funny and sort of distorted. Have any of you experienced this? If so,
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Re: Voice speech samples.

[rajmund]

Hi, actually, in IOS10, even the default
voice, of the new ones, only, have to be downloaded.
Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Brett You need to download the high quality voice, but you can try the 
low quality voice without downloading anything.


Remember you first need to switch to that language first, so it 
gets loaded when you tap on it.



Cheers Brett.


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Hello list.  I hope this has not already been discussed, but I 
need to know how to hear the speech samples of the different 
voices offered in iOS 10.  I am using an iPhone 6S with 10.2.  Do 
you have to download each one to hear the sample? I can't seem 
to figure this out; please help!

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RE: Voice speech samples.

[Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)]

Hm, not on my phone it doesn’t. I have tried everything I can think of; 
double-tapping on it, going into edit, etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Hi,

You need to download the high quality voice, but you can try the low quality 
voice without downloading anything.

Remember you first need to switch to that language first, so it gets loaded 
when you tap on it.


Cheers Brett.


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mailto:edmond...@michigan.gov>> wrote:
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to hear the speech samples of the different voices offered in iOS 10. I am 
using an iPhone 6S with 10.2. Do you have to download each one to hear the 
sample? I can’t seem to figure this out; please help!
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Re: Voice speech samples.

[Brett]

Hi, 

You need to download the high quality voice, but you can try the low quality 
voice without downloading anything. 

Remember you first need to switch to that language first, so it gets loaded 
when you tap on it. 


Cheers Brett. 


> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 7:03 am, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)  
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> Hello list. I hope this has not already been discussed, but I need to know 
> how to hear the speech samples of the different voices offered in iOS 10. I 
> am using an iPhone 6S with 10.2. Do you have to download each one to hear the 
> sample? I can’t seem to figure this out; please help!
> Thanks.
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re: Voice speech samples.

[rajmund]

Hi, unfortunately, yeah, you do.  Which, if you ask me, defeats 
the same button, since if you've downloaded a voice, you might as 
well try it, but there you go, I haven't designed it.


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Voice speech samples.

[Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)]

Hello list. I hope this has not already been discussed, but I need to know how 
to hear the speech samples of the different voices offered in iOS 10. I am 
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sample? I can't seem to figure this out; please help!
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Re: iPhone 7 in hand, and great apple store experience!

[Kliphton Miller]

Trust me, with the plan I have with T-mobile, I have no intention of signing on 
with anyone else.  Unless I get rid of this plan on my own, it is going no 
where.
> On Sep 30, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Your friend with Verizon was able to use it likely because Verizon has
> cell towers with LTE signals nearby.  T-Moble also supports LTE.  I
> believe some areas outside urban centers only use CDMA transmission,
> an earlier cell phone standard.  By the end of the decade, Verizon
> will phase out CDMA transmission entirely and use LTE.  Until that
> happens, your phone likely cannot use Verizon's network in certain
> places.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> On 9/28/16, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> mine may have been bought from apple store, and says t-mobile.  But when I
>> updated my phone in iTunes and went to phone activation it said
>> “Congratulations, your iPhone has been unlocked”.  I don’t know if this is
>> because my sim card was in a iPhone SE that was unlocked, or because I paid
>> for it all at once. All I know is my friend with a verizon sim card was able
>> to use it.
>> Checkout my groups
>> Come be sole out for Christ!
>> https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life
>> Come learn and teach about apple products!
>> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
>> Come chat about any and everything
>> https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic
>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am eagerly waiting for the unlocked version of the iPhone 7.  I’m
>>> living with an iPhone 5 and want the new functionality and drastically
>>> increased responsiveness.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/27/16, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> Let me start by saying, apple stores are being restocked sooner than
> the
> carriers.  The reason I know this, is all carrier stores said they will
> fill back orders first, and they might get more in the stores by mid
> october.  If you check the apple store app, select your carrier, color,
> and size it will tell you what the ship time is, or if you can pick up
> in
> store.  For the last 3 days I have been selecting all colors and sizes,
> at
> first it was just rose gold.  But yesterday afternoon, all colors and
> sizes said pickup in store tomorrow.  So I checked all morning when I
> got
> up, and when I got to apple store, just 45 minutes before it opened, I
> was
> the first one to check in.  The crowd got larger by the minute, and I
> was
> afraid my reservation would get lost.  But the apple store rep who made
> my
> reservation, saw the crowd growing, and at 5 minutes to 10, when they
> opened, he came got me and said.  “Your first. and put me in the front
> of
> the line.  Now that is the VIP treatment.  So I got my phone, went to a
> early lunch, and my phone is restoring from a backup as we speak.
> Don’t
> like none of the cases in the apple store, so I grabbed an otter box
> from
> T-Mobile on my way home.  Great job apple!
> MillerFamily
> Without Christ, there is no life!
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demo of goggles app

[Larry McCreary]

I would appreciate knowing where I might find a demo of this app.  I have 
looked on apple this site but can’t find one.
Thanks very much.

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Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen

[Chris Chaffin]

I am not sure you were on the right screen.  Did you double tap on edit?

When you double tap on edit, the add widget screen comes up.  At the top left 
will be a cancel button, then as you swipe right, you will have a done button, 
then you should hear, add widgets.
If you swipe right one more time, next you should hear:
Get timely information from your favorite apps, at a glance. Add and organize 
your widgets below.

Now you will have a list of the widgets you currently have on your today 
screen.  For each one, you should hear the name of the widget, then a reorder 
button for that widget.  The reorder button is used to help you put your 
widgets in the order you want.
After you get done the list of widgets on your today screen, then you will have 
a list of widgets that you can add.  Before the name of each widget in this 
list will be an insert button.  You would use this button to add it to your 
today screen.

I hope this has been helpful.

Chris


> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:59 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Chris, I just tried the widget screen by touching edit. Yes, as I flick down 
> to the right I have the widgets on my first screen. However, when I get to 
> the new widgets all I find is new-link and one more swipe puts me on move 
> new. No names are given. Could this mean I do not have any widgets to 
> download? M
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you go to your Today Screen or Widget Screen, and swipe to the bottom of 
> the screen, you will find and edit button.
> Double tap on the edit button.  The screen you are now on will first list all 
> of the widgets that you currently have on your Today Screen, then you will 
> find a list of widgets that are available that are not on your today screen 
> but you can add them if you like.
> Together, this will be all of the widgets that you have on your device.  If 
> it is not in either list, then that app does not currently have one.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:01 AM, denise colley  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you know if a particular ap has a widget?
>>  
>> Denise
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen
>>  
>> To get new widgets, download an app that has a widget you want. Some apps, 
>> like goodreads or Kindle come with widgets.
>> 
>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>>  
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Brett  wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, 
>>  
>> At that botton of page 1, the widgets screen, there is an edit button, if 
>> you click on that. You will first see the widgets you have active, if you 
>> flick to one you want to remove, then flick up, you will see the remove 
>> option in the rotor. Just double tap on the remove option on the widget you 
>> want to get rid of. 
>>  
>> To add widgets, you should see an add button from memory at the bottom of 
>> the widget screen. 
>>  
>> Hope this helps, 
>> Brett. 
>>  
>> 
>> Cheers Brett. 
>>  
>> 
>> On 15 Sep. 2016, at 9:27 pm, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> how does one add or remove them or find new ones?
>>  
>> From: Brett
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 05:46
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen
>>  
>> Hi Genefer,
>>  
>> I had the same issue, where each widget just said "New";;. I rebooted my 
>> phone and there labels have been read correctly ever since.
>>  
>> Hope this helps some,
>> Brett. ,
>> 
>> Cheers Brett. 
>>  
>> 
>> On 15 Sep. 2016, at 6:51 pm, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I'm on page one of my home screen, and vo says I have 14 new wigits. I 
>> doubletap on that, and all vo says is "insert new button." How do I know 
>> what these are? Is this a vo bug?
>> I may not reply to all messages people send in reply to mine, but please 
>> know how greatful I am to all of you who do. (smile)
>>  
>> Jenifer Barr
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RE: App Store Issues

[rajmund]

Hi, That's not correct.  I've had it with
9.3.x.  And on the iPad, too.
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From: "Chip Orange" Those who have talked with Apple Accessibility are being told 
it's a problem specific to the latest version of IOS and Iphones.



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Subject: Re: App Store Issues

I've had this in process issue at various times across several 
different versions of iOS.  I believe it is a hiccup with either 
the Apps Store or the Apple servers which just happens from time 
to time as opposed to a specific bug.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Joe  wrote:

Hi,

Has anyone experienced an issue where the App Store refuses to 
show results
for apps you type into the Search? It says In Progress, Loading, 
or some
such, but it never gets around to showing results.  My Wi-Fi is 
working fine.
Everything else seems to be working well.  Any tips would be 
appreciated.  I'm
a loser still on iOS 9, don't really plan to update to iOS 10 
until the rest
of you figure out the glitches.  (grin) Thanks for any ideas on 
how to

jumpstart this thing.

Joe

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RE: App Store Issues

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Those who have talked with Apple Accessibility are being told it's a problem 
specific to the latest version of IOS and Iphones.


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Alan Lemly
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Subject: Re: App Store Issues

I've had this in process issue at various times across several different 
versions of iOS. I believe it is a hiccup with either the Apps Store or the 
Apple servers which just happens from time to time as opposed to a specific 
bug. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Joe  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone experienced an issue where the App Store refuses to show results
> for apps you type into the Search? It says In Progress, Loading, or some
> such, but it never gets around to showing results. My Wi-Fi is working fine.
> Everything else seems to be working well. Any tips would be appreciated. I'm
> a loser still on iOS 9, don't really plan to update to iOS 10 until the rest
> of you figure out the glitches. (grin) Thanks for any ideas on how to
> jumpstart this thing.
> 
> Joe
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Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen

[regina alvarado]

Chris, I just tried the widget screen by touching edit. Yes, as I flick down to 
the right I have the widgets on my first screen. However, when I get to the new 
widgets all I find is new-link and one more swipe puts me on move new. No names 
are given. Could this mean I do not have any widgets to download? M


Reggie and Lex


On Oct 3, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:


If you go to your Today Screen or Widget Screen, and swipe to the bottom of the 
screen, you will find and edit button.
Double tap on the edit button.  The screen you are now on will first list all 
of the widgets that you currently have on your Today Screen, then you will find 
a list of widgets that are available that are not on your today screen but you 
can add them if you like.
Together, this will be all of the widgets that you have on your device.  If it 
is not in either list, then that app does not currently have one.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:01 AM, denise colley  wrote:
> 
> How do you know if a particular ap has a widget?
>  
> Denise
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen
>  
> To get new widgets, download an app that has a widget you want. Some apps, 
> like goodreads or Kindle come with widgets.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>  
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Brett  wrote:
>  
> Hi, 
>  
> At that botton of page 1, the widgets screen, there is an edit button, if you 
> click on that. You will first see the widgets you have active, if you flick 
> to one you want to remove, then flick up, you will see the remove option in 
> the rotor. Just double tap on the remove option on the widget you want to get 
> rid of. 
>  
> To add widgets, you should see an add button from memory at the bottom of the 
> widget screen. 
>  
> Hope this helps, 
> Brett. 
>  
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
>  
> 
> On 15 Sep. 2016, at 9:27 pm, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> how does one add or remove them or find new ones?
>  
> From: Brett
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 05:46
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen
>  
> Hi Genefer,
>  
> I had the same issue, where each widget just said "New";;. I rebooted my 
> phone and there labels have been read correctly ever since.
>  
> Hope this helps some,
> Brett. ,
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
>  
> 
> On 15 Sep. 2016, at 6:51 pm, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> I'm on page one of my home screen, and vo says I have 14 new wigits. I 
> doubletap on that, and all vo says is "insert new button." How do I know what 
> these are? Is this a vo bug?
> I may not reply to all messages people send in reply to mine, but please know 
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>  
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RE: Question about keyboard click sounds

[Richard Turner]

Those sounds only seem to be related to onscreen input.
The typing feedback is so you hear the letters or words as you type them.
There does not seem to be a way to get keyboard clicks with external keyboards.
If you set hardware keyboard to characters, you will hear each character 
entered, which I could understand might not be a good idea if you want to keep 
your typing private.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kerri Stovall
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 9:24 AM
To: Viphone List 
Subject: Question about keyboard click sounds

Hey list,
This may or may not be a strange question. Is there a way to get the keyboard 
clicks to sound when typing with a third party keyboard, like a braille display 
or a bluetooth keyboard? I have my hardware keyboard set to nothing, as far as 
typing feedback, so I tried selecting words, just to see if that made a 
difference, and it didn't, so is there, or is there not, a way to do this? I'd 
like it to make the clicking sound as I type, so that I know that my text is 
being entered, without having to set the typing feedback to echo words. Now, 
when I use braille screen input, the clicks are there, but not when I use 
hardware keyboards. Thanks all.
Kerri


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Re: App Store Issues

[Brian Fischler]

Another way around this issue is after the app store fails to go in to the app 
switcher force quit the app store than reopen go back to search and type in 
what you are looking for and it seems to work very strange.
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I've had this in process issue at various times across several different 
> versions of iOS. I believe it is a hiccup with either the Apps Store or the 
> Apple servers which just happens from time to time as opposed to a specific 
> bug. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Joe  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone experienced an issue where the App Store refuses to show results
>> for apps you type into the Search? It says In Progress, Loading, or some
>> such, but it never gets around to showing results. My Wi-Fi is working fine.
>> Everything else seems to be working well. Any tips would be appreciated. I'm
>> a loser still on iOS 9, don't really plan to update to iOS 10 until the rest
>> of you figure out the glitches. (grin) Thanks for any ideas on how to
>> jumpstart this thing.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
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Question about keyboard click sounds

[Kerri Stovall]

Hey list,
>> This may or may not be a strange question. Is there a way to get the 
>> keyboard clicks to sound when typing with a third party keyboard, like a 
>> braille display or a bluetooth keyboard? I have my hardware keyboard set to 
>> nothing, as far as typing feedback, so I tried selecting words, just to see 
>> if that made a difference, and it didn't, so is there, or is there not, a 
>> way to do this? I'd like it to make the clicking sound as I type, so that I 
>> know that my text is being entered, without having to set the typing 
>> feedback to echo words. Now, when I use braille screen input, the clicks are 
>> there, but not when I use hardware keyboards. Thanks all.
>> Kerri
>> 
>> 
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Re: Locked screen

[pegkane52]

Also, if you hit the side button on your phone I think it's called the sleep 
wake button when the screen is locked it will make a funny noise.

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
> It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
> Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is locked.
> 
> Richard
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> I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked 
> any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
> Lynda,
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RE: Locked screen

[Richard Turner]

If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is locked.

Richard


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Subject: Locked screen

I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked 
any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
Lynda,

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Locked screen

[Alan Lemly]

I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked 
any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?

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Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen

[Chris Chaffin]

If you go to your Today Screen or Widget Screen, and swipe to the bottom of the 
screen, you will find and edit button.
Double tap on the edit button.  The screen you are now on will first list all 
of the widgets that you currently have on your Today Screen, then you will find 
a list of widgets that are available that are not on your today screen but you 
can add them if you like.
Together, this will be all of the widgets that you have on your device.  If it 
is not in either list, then that app does not currently have one.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:01 AM, denise colley  wrote:
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> How do you know if a particular ap has a widget?
>  
> Denise
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:59 AM
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> Subject: Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen
>  
> To get new widgets, download an app that has a widget you want. Some apps, 
> like goodreads or Kindle come with widgets.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>  
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Brett  wrote:
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> Hi, 
>  
> At that botton of page 1, the widgets screen, there is an edit button, if you 
> click on that. You will first see the widgets you have active, if you flick 
> to one you want to remove, then flick up, you will see the remove option in 
> the rotor. Just double tap on the remove option on the widget you want to get 
> rid of. 
>  
> To add widgets, you should see an add button from memory at the bottom of the 
> widget screen. 
>  
> Hope this helps, 
> Brett. 
>  
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
>  
> 
> On 15 Sep. 2016, at 9:27 pm, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> how does one add or remove them or find new ones?
>  
> From: Brett
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> Subject: Re: new wigits screen... page one of home screen
>  
> Hi Genefer,
>  
> I had the same issue, where each widget just said "New";;. I rebooted my 
> phone and there labels have been read correctly ever since.
>  
> Hope this helps some,
> Brett. ,
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
>  
> 
> On 15 Sep. 2016, at 6:51 pm, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Hi all.
> I'm on page one of my home screen, and vo says I have 14 new wigits. I 
> doubletap on that, and all vo says is "insert new button." How do I know what 
> these are? Is this a vo bug?
> I may not reply to all messages people send in reply to mine, but please know 
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>  
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Re: App Store Issues

[Alan Lemly]

I've had this in process issue at various times across several different 
versions of iOS. I believe it is a hiccup with either the Apps Store or the 
Apple servers which just happens from time to time as opposed to a specific 
bug. 

Alan Lemly 

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> Has anyone experienced an issue where the App Store refuses to show results
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> such, but it never gets around to showing results. My Wi-Fi is working fine.
> Everything else seems to be working well. Any tips would be appreciated. I'm
> a loser still on iOS 9, don't really plan to update to iOS 10 until the rest
> of you figure out the glitches. (grin) Thanks for any ideas on how to
> jumpstart this thing.
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Re: Moving app from one folder to another?

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Arnold! I didn't see that but will look closer next time. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> After tapping the move app icon when in a folder, after it says choose a 
> destination, notice that there is an extra option. Swipe up and it will say 
> drop app from folder. Tap this, it will close the folder, and the app you are 
> moving is ready  to be moved  to its  new destination. 
> 
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>> Ok Kim... I don't use that gesture often... isn't that the one where you 
>> scrub your finger back and forth? lol. Guess I gotta start using it.
>> Thanks
>> Jen 
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>>> Hi Jen,
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>>> Rather than pressing home to exit the folder, try the two finger scrub
>>> gesture. That will close the folder without taking you out of editing
>>> mode.
>>> 
>>> 
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 Hi.
 Can someone tell me how to move an app from one folder to another? I can't
 exit the folder where said app is to move it without pressing home, right?
 Thanks.
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