Re: Badges in iOS?

[Richard Turner]

When you touch the mail app icon and it says 5 unread messages, that is an 
example of a badge. If you turned badges off for mail, you would never know if 
you had new messages.
HTH,
Richard


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On Oct 30, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus 
> wrote:

Anna,

This does not give me enough details.  Numbers of what?  I am not sure what you 
mean by this.

Is there another word I might understand in the conventional sense?

Todd

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Badges in iOS?

Hi Todd,

Badges are the numbers that indicate that there are new items, such as new 
email messages.

Best,
Anna


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On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Todd Patkus 
> wrote:
Anyone know exactly what "badges" found in settings > notifications are and 
what they are for?

Thank y'all.

Todd
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RE: Badges in iOS?

[Todd Patkus]

Anna,

 

This does not give me enough details.  Numbers of what?  I am not sure what you 
mean by this.

 

Is there another word I might understand in the conventional sense?

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Badges in iOS?

 

Hi Todd,

 

Badges are the numbers that indicate that there are new items, such as new 
email messages.

 

Best,

Anna



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On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Todd Patkus  > wrote:

Anyone know exactly what “badges” found in settings > notifications are and 
what they are for?

 

Thank y’all.

 

Todd

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Re: Badges in iOS?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Todd,

Badges are the numbers that indicate that there are new items, such as new 
email messages.

Best,
Anna


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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
> 
> Anyone know exactly what “badges” found in settings > notifications are and 
> what they are for?
>  
> Thank y’all.
>  
> Todd
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Re: No 2 finger double-tap on watch?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The Magic Tap works to start and stop playback of audio apps. I haven't used my 
watch to answer calls in a while, but I believe the Magic Tap is meant to work 
for that but occasionally doesn't.

Best,
Anna


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> On Oct 29, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you read Jonathan's book about the Apple Watch? I also bought a series 2 
> Apple Watch, but while it's sitting on my desk at home I am still in Calgary 
> until next Friday hence I have no hands on experience yet. However, I assume 
> there might be a reason for what they have done and maybe with the watch 
> there is a much easier way to answer a call. Like I said, I'm just 
> speculating and while I bought Jonathan's book, I haven't read it yet, either.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ioana Gandrabur
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: No 2 finger double-tap on watch?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm a new apple watch user so might address something already discussed here. 
> I am very surprised that the magic tap meaning the 2 finger double tap does 
> not work on the watch. 
> It would make answering calls easier or anything to do with start and stop. 
> I've tolt apple accessibility about this and hope others will also. 
> It should work since they allow other gesture such as changing vo volume 
> using 2 finger double-tap. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ioana
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Badges in iOS?

[Todd Patkus]

Anyone know exactly what "badges" found in settings > notifications are and
what they are for?

 

Thank y'all.

 

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Andy Baracco]

This happened to me the other night, but after a few tries, the update took 
place. I think the problem might be on their end.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Shai

Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be 
a

problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then
after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and 
I

then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing
happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting with
the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network settings,
no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It 
is
a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I 
have
used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were 
no

problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean 
install,
redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old 
backup.
So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be 
something

else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt this,
so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jan Kleinhans

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Re: Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Shai]

Hello Jan,
It sounds to me like you have done all that you could do to try to get
the phone updated. Just to confirm, does your phone state that it is
connected to WiFI in the status bar at the top of the screen after
resetting network settings? Are you able to launch and browse the
Internet with Safari? You might want to try disabling cellular data
and seeing if you could do the update this way. That way you are sure
that WiFi is connected. You can turn off cellular data in
settings/cellular.
If you still receive the same message, you will  have to reset the
phone as new again to get it to update to iOS10.1.


On 10/30/16, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I
> tried updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be a
> problem.  I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then
> after about 5 minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and I
> then can close it or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing
> happening.  I have restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting with
> the multiple presses of the power button, I've reset the network settings,
> no apps in the app switcher, but the same thing happens all the time.  It is
> a 64 gb phone, lots of memory free, so that also is not the problem.  I have
> used the same wi-fi network to update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were no
> problems whatsoever.  What might be the problem here?  When I got this
> phone, it was just after the release of Ios 10.  I then did a clean install,
> redownloaded the apps I needed from the app store, not using an old backup.
> So, short from setting it up as a new phone again, would there be something
> else that I could try?  It is also connected to power when I attempt this,
> so all those bases are covered.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jan Kleinhans
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> 
> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
> if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
> battery life difference.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello Feliciano,
>> 
>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
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>>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hello fellow listers,
 
 After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
 excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
 I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
 apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
 With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 
 4 and 5% per hour.
 I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
 was no noticeable battery drain.
 I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
 
 I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
 Cheers,
 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Feliciano Godoy]

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson 
> wrote:

Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy 
> wrote:

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

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> wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
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> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
> 
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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
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>> Hello fellow listers,
>> 
>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps 
>> in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
>> and 5% per hour.
>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was 
>> no noticeable battery drain.
>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>> 
>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Feliciano Godoy]

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

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Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I've reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

[Casey]

Hi can you tell me how to use Cody on your desktop computer?


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Re: Voiceover problem

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all, please help my dearest friend with something. I hope yo hep us.
wink1 thank you! rich

-Original Message- 
From: Barbara Milner

Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:39 PM
To: Paul Richard McGann
Subject: Voiceover problem

Hello Rich,

You can forward it to your list.

Hello everyone,

Rich explain to you error as he thought it was subject and name turns out it
is not the issues.

I am using IPHone 5 with late update of IOS 9 but not yet update to IOS 10.1

I am also deaf-blind and wondering how can I resolve this issue.

For example when I send Rich e mail then he reply to me then I reply to him
then he reply to me again then I reply to him by hitting 'send' it start to
freezing and it stays on braille display the word 'send' but my iphone's
screen said it was send right away.

I had to wait for the word 'send' to disappear but it didn't. It keeps delay
longer bettween 1 to 5 minutes before it disappear.If it takes longer more
than 1 minute then I would hit home button 3 times to turn off voice over
then it home button 3 times to turn on voiceover to get rid of  the word
'send' that have been stuck. When it was stuck means I can't move to
anywhere till the word disappear. When I used this button to turn off and on
voiceover that helps to make the word 'send' disappear. It is annoying to do
repeating all the times isn't a good idea.

Do you have this issue yourself? If so how can it resolved this matter? I
would aprecaite it

Thank you

Barbara


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VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

[christopher hallsworth]

False. There is no Cody app in the app store. THe workaround then would be to 
install Cody on an iDevice and send the stream wirelessly to your TV using 
Airplay.


> On 30 Oct 2016, at 10:51, billy inglis  wrote:
> 
> hi, Is it true Kodi can be installed on the Apple TV?, Billy
> 
> On 30/10/2016 00:54, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a Fire TV stick:
>> 
>> very limited accessibility.
>> The stock apps aren't accessible.
>> Very few third party apps aren't accessible.
>> Don't do it!!!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>> On 10/30/16, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am trying to decide where to go next, when it comes to my Apple TV.
>>> 
>>> I love my Apple Tv, and enjoy it very much! I use it all the time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, while I want to upgrade, I do have some concerns about the
>>> learning curve. But even more, I have concerns about the cost.
>>> 
>>> I don't really have the money to purchase a new model, and I most likely
>>> won't for some time now. I know this might not seem like a lot of money
>>> for some of you, and I think this is wonderful!
>>> 
>>> But unfortunately for me, it is.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So I was looking at the Amazon tv Firestick.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone on this list know much about this thing?
>>> 
>>> If not, could someone kindly direct me to a list, where there are blind
>>> people who do know about this?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, is this device accessible at all?
>>> 
>>> If so, by how much? Will only part of it talk?
>>> 
>>> Would I be able to download apps?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, from what I read, it mentioned that you can get a subscription to
>>> Sling tv. From what I understand, Sling tv isn't accessible at all.
>>> 
>>> So if I got a subscription on the Firestick, wouldn't it likely not be
>>> accessible?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any help with this, or thoughts on the matter, would be very much
>>> appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for reading, and letting me make comparisons.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
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Re: Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks for the info Brian.

On 10/29/16, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> Hey, I heard the delay is due to the Ear Pods blowing up. Kidding of course.
> Just a little warning for all of you who are planning on getting these and
> are like me. I use bluetooth ear buds now a lot of the time with one ear bud
> in so I can hear what is going around me with the other ear. I read a tear
> down about the Ear Pods and they have an Auto Pause feature which
> automatically kicks in when you take one ear pod out. I would want to make
> sure you can override or turn that auto pause feature off if you cannot
> listen to anything with one ear bud out. I do not want to panic anyone about
> this just thinking you may want to check these out in stores until we learn
> if you can use these with only one ear pod in.
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:43 PM, SSEric  wrote:
>>
>> This week I received a pair of Bose SoundSport earbuds. They are much like
>> most earbuds, except they have the Bose StayHere tips that really keep the
>> buds in place. They do sound pretty good. The base is good, although the
>> middle and highs could be a little flat. I am no audiophile, though. They
>> have one button on one bud for power. On the connecting cable, there is
>> the Apple style controls. They come with the regular size tips in place.
>> Changing to the small size really made a difference in sound and comfort.
>> They are $150. I bought them with the idea I could try them until the
>> Apple EarPods were released and then decide which I would prefer. I guess
>> that is out. These are probably keepers, though I would really have to
>> like the Apple buds to be comfortable with them being separate. It seems
>> like an invitation to lose one. I have heard them described as much like
>> the current EarPods. Those I do not like, particularly for their material.
>> They never feel as though they will stay in my ear.
>>
>> Eric
>> sseri...@gmail.com 
>>
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:41 AM, Jenifer Barr > > wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mary. Dang, I was really looking forward to these! Lol and I don't
>> even have a 7! Oh well... I'll wait.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the article, Mary, I just Googled this a few days ago and
>>> there was nothing at the time. I for one really look forward to these and
>>> I’m a bit disappointed because I was hoping they would hit the shelves in
>>> the next few days while I am still in Calgary and near an Apple Store. Of
>>> course I for once applaud Apple on deciding to delay the launch if there
>>> are still issues to be resolved, better this way than to release the
>>> product half baked so to speak. Probably even more disappointing for
>>> people who bought the iPhone 7 or 7 Plus and who are really looking
>>> forward t6o an excellent bluetooth earpiece/headset.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On
>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ;
>>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com ;
>>> mac4thebl...@freelists.org 
>>> Subject: Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening
>>>
>>> Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening
>>> MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover
>>>
>>> When Apple debuted its AirPods in September, the company said the
>>> wireless earbuds would launch in late October. Now that it's late
>>> October, people have been wondering if a release is imminent, but as it
>>> turns out, the AirPods are delayed.
>>>
>>> Apple today told TechCrunch that it needs "a little more time" before the
>>> AirPods are ready for a public release, without specifying the reason
>>> behind the delay.
>>>
>>>
>>> "The early response to AirPods has been incredible. We don't believe in
>>> shipping a product before it's ready, and we need a little more time
>>> before AirPods are ready for our customers," an Apple spokesperson said
>>> to TechCrunch.
>>> Apple did not provide TechCrunch with updated launch information, so it
>>> is no longer clear when the AirPods will be available for purchase.
>>>
>>> AirPods are Apple's premium headphone solution for the iPhone 7
>>>  and the iPhone 7 Plus, which
>>> do not include a headphone jack. AirPods, powered by Bluetooth and an
>>> Apple-designed W1 chip, are entirely wireless with no cords between
>>> them.
>>>
>>>
>>> They include advanced features like infrared sensors to detect when
>>> they're in the ear, beam forming microphones to reduce external noise,
>>> and 

Re: Moving apps to folders

[Lynn White]

 Yep, that works very well.

By the way, I learned about this through Jonathan's book while looking to solve 
someone else's issue.

I like how all this works in iOS ten.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m going to assume you are using iOS 10.
> Moving apps in iOS 10
>  
>  Here is my summary of how it works.
> Touch the app you want to move. 
> Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.
> double tap.
> Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a 
> destination for the app.
> Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.  If you are in 
> a folder and want to move the app out of the folder, do the two finger scrub 
> to close the folder without stopping the edit mode.
> If you want to move the app to a different page, just do the three finger 
> swipe to get there.
> Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the 
> folder, don't open it.
> Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or 
> before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap 
> with 
> one finger and Wala, it is done.
> When you find an app you wish to create a folder with, flick up or down until 
> you hear the option to create a folder with that app, and double tap.
> 
> BTW, deleting apps is the same as always, once it says edit, double tap with 
> one finger and you will get the option to delete it.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Roberts
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Moving apps to folders
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have quite a number of apps on my home screen making it a little unwieldy.
>  
> Am I right in thinking that these can be moved to folders?  If this is the 
> case please can someone advise me how to create the folders into which I can 
> move them?
>  
> Many thanks,
>  
> Andrew
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Re: problem with brailliant bi 40 on ipad mini 4

[Jennie Facer]

That is why I gave up the Brailliant. It has always froze whenever I was 
typing. Granted that was a long time ago and I thought they would have it 
straightened out by now. What a shame! Are you upgraded to the latest firmware 
on the Brailliant? 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Kelsey Nicolay  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have two braille displays: a Focus 14 and a Brailliant Bi 40.  I primarily 
> use the Focus with my ipad, but I prefer using my Brailliant when I need to 
> do something that requires a lot of reading, such as deleting email or 
> looking at a website in Safari.  I am having an issue in which the Brailliant 
> is locking up when typing a text or email message.  When I was on Ios 9, it 
> locked up to the point where the whole ipad became unresponsive and my only 
> option was to completely shut down the ipad and then power back on.  
> Voiceover worked as normal, but the braille display was still locked up.  I 
> ended up having to turn off the Brailliant and turn it back on.  I installed 
> the latest version of Ios this morning and while it is better than it was, 
> I'm still having the issue with the display freezing when typing.  I am not 
> having any issues when using the display for navigation; it's only when 
> typing.  I contacted tech support at Humanware and they were not sure what to 
> do either.  Therefore, if anyone else uses a Brailliant, have you or are you 
> still experiencing a similar behavior in Ios 9 and did it completely resolve 
> when you updated to 10? Is there anything I can do to help alleviate this?
> Thank you,
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RE: comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

[pattigj1206]

I had it a few days then I got voice view to work.  I haven’t had any 
accessibility issues with it except for some items not being labeled.

Patti

 

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 12:10 PM
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Subject: RE: comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

 

How accessible is it?

 

 

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Subject: comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

 

I don’t have the stick, but I do have the Amazon Fire tv and happen to like it 
very much.

For me I like it better than Apple because it has more content to my liking.

Just thought I’d mention it, I don’t know that much about the stick and the 
purpose for it but I am very happy with my Amazon Fire  TV.

The Voice View is very nice, same voice that is on the Echo.  In fact I have 
some echo capabilities on it because it has Alexa and I can use it with music, 
for instance.

Just saying, not wanting to start anything, grin. I have also heard that voice 
to speech capability may be coming to the roku.

That would be nice.

 

Patti

 

 

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RE: comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

[Larry Lumpkin]

How accessible is it?

 

 

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pattigj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 7:12 AM
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Subject: comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

 

I don’t have the stick, but I do have the Amazon Fire tv and happen to like it 
very much.

For me I like it better than Apple because it has more content to my liking.

Just thought I’d mention it, I don’t know that much about the stick and the 
purpose for it but I am very happy with my Amazon Fire  TV.

The Voice View is very nice, same voice that is on the Echo.  In fact I have 
some echo capabilities on it because it has Alexa and I can use it with music, 
for instance.

Just saying, not wanting to start anything, grin. I have also heard that voice 
to speech capability may be coming to the roku.

That would be nice.

 

Patti

 

 

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Re: Dictation only works on my iPhone 6 when earphones are connected. Why?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi, that is definitely abnormal behavior. I suggest you go to your device 
settings followed by General and then keyboard and turn off dictation and turn 
it back on. After you have done this, try to use dictation without the 
headphones. Now if that doesn't work, I would suggest to  power off your device 
and turned it back on.

Regards,
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guys,

I'm finding that dictation only works on my iPhone 6 with iOS 9 or 10 when my 
earphones are connected.  Since my phones have a bad wire that causes only one 
ear to work, I assumed that the failure of dictation was global.  but, weirdly 
enough, when my phones are connected, I get a great dictation response.  I 
would prefer not to have to wear earphones, working or not, to use the 
dictation feature. Any ideas?  Dictation works fine on my iPad Air 2 without 
phones.

Since i never visit this forum, I'd be grateful if responders would copy me at 
this address:
kevj...@me.com, in addition to replying to the group.

thanks for understanding,
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Re: comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

[MamaPeach]

I do wish Roku would get speech, We had three Rokus in the house at one time, 
but I gave mine up because I could not use it by myself. It offers a major 
league amount of content. There are still two of them in the house, but I don’t 
use those, just my Apple TV.

From: pattigj1...@gmail.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

I don’t have the stick, but I do have the Amazon Fire tv and happen to like it 
very much.

For me I like it better than Apple because it has more content to my liking.

Just thought I’d mention it, I don’t know that much about the stick and the 
purpose for it but I am very happy with my Amazon Fire  TV.

The Voice View is very nice, same voice that is on the Echo.  In fact I have 
some echo capabilities on it because it has Alexa and I can use it with music, 
for instance.

Just saying, not wanting to start anything, grin. I have also heard that voice 
to speech capability may be coming to the roku.

That would be nice.

 

Patti

 

 

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Backing Up Multiple iThings in iTunes with Different Apple IDs?

[Dani Pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I barely touch iTunes. I have it on my work computer and use it to
back up my iPodTouch and install anything new Apple may say I need.

I want to keep a backup of my Mom's iPhone on my new MacBook.

But I also need to temporarily keep a backup of my own iPodTouch there as well.

Can I do this?

Thanks,
Dani, hoping this makes sense

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RE: Moving apps to folders

[Richard Turner]

I’m going to assume you are using iOS 10.
Moving apps in iOS 10


 Here is my summary of how it works.

Touch the app you want to move.

Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.

double tap.

Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a

destination for the app.

Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.  If you are in a 
folder and want to move the app out of the folder, do the two finger scrub to 
close the folder without stopping the edit mode.

If you want to move the app to a different page, just do the three finger swipe 
to get there.

Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the

folder, don't open it.

Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or

before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with

one finger and Wala, it is done.

When you find an app you wish to create a folder with, flick up or down until 
you hear the option to create a folder with that app, and double tap.

BTW, deleting apps is the same as always, once it says edit, double tap with 
one finger and you will get the option to delete it.

HTH,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew Roberts
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Subject: Moving apps to folders

Hi,

I have quite a number of apps on my home screen making it a little unwieldy.

Am I right in thinking that these can be moved to folders?  If this is the case 
please can someone advise me how to create the folders into which I can move 
them?

Many thanks,

Andrew
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Re: Tune-in question, possible problem

[Terri Stimmel]

Hi Richard, and list,


Thank you Richard. This fixed the problem. I appreciate the help.


Terri

On 10/29/2016 7:28 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Yes, double tap on the search tab.
Put in the city name, a comma, then the state name.
Flick through the results to stations and double tap on the more button.
HTH,
Richard


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On Oct 29, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Terri Stimmel 
> wrote:

Hello everyone,


I have Tune-in on my Ipad Mini. I really enjoy it, and have for some
time now. I have a premium package. I think it is the one that is about
6, or 7 dollars a month.


Anyway, I was hoping to listen to some stations from within the area I
grew up. I didn't think I could search by city, but I knew I could see
stations within the state. I thought I went to local stations, and then
chose country, and all that. But I haven't done this in a while.


So I was wondering, is this still possible to do?

If so, what are the steps to do it?

And can you search for a city and state? Or only by station?


Thank you for any help.


Terri

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Moving apps to folders

[Andrew Roberts]

Hi,

 

I have quite a number of apps on my home screen making it a little unwieldy.

 

Am I right in thinking that these can be moved to folders?  If this is the
case please can someone advise me how to create the folders into which I can
move them?

 

Many thanks,

 

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Adding contacts to favourites

[Andrew Roberts]

Hi,

 

I am using an iPhone 7 running iOS10.

 

I have a few contacts who have several numbers, an iPhone, home, and work 
number.  I am in a position where I would like to take one of these contacts 
and add all three of these numbers to my favourite contacts.  Unfortunately the 
only one it seems to allow me to add is the iPhone number.  Does anyone know 
how I accomplish adding the other two numbers to favourites?  I was able to do 
this on my iPhone5S running iOS9.

 

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Problems updating iPhone 6 over the air to ios 10.1

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi all

Because of some problems with my computer which is not relevant here, I tried 
updating my iPhone 6 to ios 10.1 over the air, but this seems to be a problem.  
I get to the point where it starts downloading the update, then after about 5 
minutes the message appears: "error downloading update" and I then can close it 
or retry.  Now, I have tried numerous times, same thing happening.  I have 
restarted the phone by switching it off, rebooting with the multiple presses of 
the power button, I've reset the network settings, no apps in the app switcher, 
but the same thing happens all the time.  It is a 64 gb phone, lots of memory 
free, so that also is not the problem.  I have used the same wi-fi network to 
update my wife's iPhone 5S, and there were no problems whatsoever.  What might 
be the problem here?  When I got this phone, it was just after the release of 
Ios 10.  I then did a clean install, redownloaded the apps I needed from the 
app store, not using an old backup.  So, short from setting it up as a new 
phone again, would there be something else that I could try?  It is also 
connected to power when I attempt this, so all those bases are covered.  Any 
help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Bluetooth ear buds without noise cancellation [was "Re: Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening"]

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I'm pretty sure that during the demo, they said that if you start playback with 
one earpod in, the music plays through that earpod. So the auto-pause would 
only happen if you were using both and removed one.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, but I have a few around the head bluetooth headphones without 
> any noise cancellation, Are there any ear bud type bluetooth headphones that 
> have no passive noise cancellation? I'd love an ear bud like form factor and 
> yet still be able to hear those around me. I know I can just use one of the 
> two ear buds, but ideally, I'd like to keep my stereoness and still listen to 
> what's going on around me.
> 
>> On 29/10/16 13:34, Brian Fischler wrote:
>> Hey, I heard the delay is due to the Ear Pods blowing up. Kidding of
>> course. Just a little warning for all of you who are planning on getting
>> these and are like me. I use bluetooth ear buds now a lot of the time
>> with one ear bud in so I can hear what is going around me with the other
>> ear. I read a tear down about the Ear Pods and they have an Auto Pause
>> feature which automatically kicks in when you take one ear pod out. I
>> would want to make sure you can override or turn that auto pause feature
>> off if you cannot listen to anything with one ear bud out. I do not want
>> to panic anyone about this just thinking you may want to check these out
>> in stores until we learn if you can use these with only one ear pod in.
>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:43 PM, SSEric >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> This week I received a pair of Bose SoundSport earbuds. They are much
>>> like most earbuds, except they have the Bose StayHere tips that really
>>> keep the buds in place. They do sound pretty good. The base is good,
>>> although the middle and highs could be a little flat. I am no
>>> audiophile, though. They have one button on one bud for power. On the
>>> connecting cable, there is the Apple style controls. They come with
>>> the regular size tips in place. Changing to the small size really made
>>> a difference in sound and comfort. They are $150. I bought them with
>>> the idea I could try them until the Apple EarPods were released and
>>> then decide which I would prefer. I guess that is out. These are
>>> probably keepers, though I would really have to like the Apple buds to
>>> be comfortable with them being separate. It seems like an invitation
>>> to lose one. I have heard them described as much like the current
>>> EarPods. Those I do not like, particularly for their material. They
>>> never feel as though they will stay in my ear.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> sseri...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:41 AM, Jenifer Barr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Mary. Dang, I was really looking forward to these! Lol and I
>>> don't even have a 7! Oh well... I'll wait.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks for the article, Mary, I just Googled this a few days ago and
 there was nothing at the time. I for one really look forward to these
 and I’m a bit disappointed because I was hoping they would hit the
 shelves in the next few days while I am still in Calgary and near an
 Apple Store. Of course I for once applaud Apple on deciding to delay
 the launch if there are still issues to be resolved, better this way
 than to release the product half baked so to speak. Probably even
 more disappointing for people who bought the iPhone 7 or 7 Plus and
 who are really looking forward t6o an excellent bluetooth
 earpiece/headset.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mary Otten
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:03 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
 ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
 
 *Subject:* Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening
 
 *Apple Delays AirPods, October Launch No Longer Happening*
 MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover
 
 When Apple debuted its AirPods in September, the company said the
 wireless earbuds would launch in late October. Now that it's late
 October, people have been wondering if a release is imminent, but as
 it turns out, the AirPods are delayed.
 
 Apple today told /TechCrunch/ that it needs "a little more time"
 before the AirPods are ready for a public release, without specifying
 the reason behind the delay.
 
 airpods-2
 
"The early 

Re: A new question about the time warner app

[Casey]

Hi okay I am the only one that uses A road runner account e-mail address.
they only call time Warner if they have A problem.
But they do have A pass word on the account if they need to find out 
anything.

So would that work or then just how do we go about using that app then?


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Re: The native braille keyboard on the iPhone

[Rajmund]

Hi,
http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast598.mp3



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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> Hello list
> Is there a podcast on this topic. For some reason I just can't manage to 
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Re: The native braille keyboard on the iPhone

[Robert Hill]

Hi Fanus,

AppleVis has a podcast done by Alex Hall which gives a good overview of the 
Braille Screen Input available on the iPhone.

Bob Hill

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> Is there a podcast on this topic. For some reason I just can’t manage to 
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comparisons on apple tv and the fire stick

[pattigj1206]

I don't have the stick, but I do have the Amazon Fire tv and happen to like
it very much.

For me I like it better than Apple because it has more content to my liking.

Just thought I'd mention it, I don't know that much about the stick and the
purpose for it but I am very happy with my Amazon Fire  TV.

The Voice View is very nice, same voice that is on the Echo.  In fact I have
some echo capabilities on it because it has Alexa and I can use it with
music, for instance.

Just saying, not wanting to start anything, grin. I have also heard that
voice to speech capability may be coming to the roku.

That would be nice.

 

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The native braille keyboard on the iPhone

[Fanus]

Hello list
Is there a podcast on this topic. For some reason I just can’t manage to write 
braille. 
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Re: Dice world issue, is it me or their server?

[Rajmund]

issue proceeds on iPad, not with a guest user, so emailing. Guys, please, don't 
challenge me for a while, if you wanted to.  




Sent from an iPad Air

> On 30 Oct 2016, at 11:47 am, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I saw someone post on twitter that after they finished a game that all their 
> stats along with gold disappeared. They uninstalled and reinstalled the app 
> which fixed the issues for a few game plays, but then the problem came back. 
> So now would be a good time to email the dev so they can put your issues on 
> the to do list.
> 
> 
>> On 10/30/2016 6:44 AM, rajmund wrote:
>> Hi,
>> It worked yesterday, though... :(
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 11:32 am, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen several different people posting in various places about dice 
>>> world issues they've been having in recent updates. So this is stuff that I 
>>> imagine will get sorted out in a future update.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10/30/2016 6:26 AM, rajmund wrote:
 Hi,
 Every time I play, even though I have bonus games enabled, I never get to 
 take my bonus rolls. I tried rebooting the phone, and reinstalling the 
 app, to no avail. then, I grabbed my android tablet, only to have achieved 
 the same. Anyone else experiencing it, or is it my account, please?
 
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Re: Dice world issue, is it me or their server?

[Gordon]

I saw someone post on twitter that after they finished a game that all 
their stats along with gold disappeared. They uninstalled and 
reinstalled the app which fixed the issues for a few game plays, but 
then the problem came back. So now would be a good time to email the dev 
so they can put your issues on the to do list.



On 10/30/2016 6:44 AM, rajmund wrote:

Hi,
It worked yesterday, though... :(

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 30 Oct 2016, at 11:32 am, Gordon  wrote:

I've seen several different people posting in various places about dice world 
issues they've been having in recent updates. So this is stuff that I imagine 
will get sorted out in a future update.



On 10/30/2016 6:26 AM, rajmund wrote:
Hi,
Every time I play, even though I have bonus games enabled, I never get to take 
my bonus rolls. I tried rebooting the phone, and reinstalling the app, to no 
avail. then, I grabbed my android tablet, only to have achieved the same. 
Anyone else experiencing it, or is it my account, please?

Sent from my iPhone 5S


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Re: Dice world issue, is it me or their server?

[rajmund]

Hi,
It worked yesterday, though... :(

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 30 Oct 2016, at 11:32 am, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I've seen several different people posting in various places about dice world 
> issues they've been having in recent updates. So this is stuff that I imagine 
> will get sorted out in a future update.
> 
> 
>> On 10/30/2016 6:26 AM, rajmund wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Every time I play, even though I have bonus games enabled, I never get to 
>> take my bonus rolls. I tried rebooting the phone, and reinstalling the app, 
>> to no avail. then, I grabbed my android tablet, only to have achieved the 
>> same. Anyone else experiencing it, or is it my account, please?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
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Re: A new question about the time warner app

[Donna]

You will need the master email account from your parent & the password that 
they use to sign into that email account. The TWC app can be used on a public 
wifi or cellular. If the app is used on cellular it uses your data. When away 
from home & using the TWC app you will not be able to watch all of the stations 
in the app. 

Donna 
> 
> Hi okay so what you are saying is I will need the time Warner account 
> password they have.
> Bo enter in the app when I get it installed on my phone.
> And I have A time Warner e-mail address already.
> So then is what all I need?
> And also do you have to be on wi-fi to watch television when using this app 
> when you are out and about or no?
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Re: Dice world issue, is it me or their server?

[MamaPeach]

I am not experiencing this. If it continues, please write the developer and 
let him know what is going on. He can be reached at:

supp...@pangiagames.com

-Original Message- 
From: rajmund

Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Dice world issue, is it me or their server?

Hi,
Every time I play, even though I have bonus games enabled, I never get to 
take my bonus rolls. I tried rebooting the phone, and reinstalling the app, 
to no avail. then, I grabbed my android tablet, only to have achieved the 
same. Anyone else experiencing it, or is it my account, please?


Sent from my iPhone 5S

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Re: Dice world issue, is it me or their server?

[Gordon]

I've seen several different people posting in various places about dice 
world issues they've been having in recent updates. So this is stuff 
that I imagine will get sorted out in a future update.



On 10/30/2016 6:26 AM, rajmund wrote:

Hi,
Every time I play, even though I have bonus games enabled, I never get to take 
my bonus rolls. I tried rebooting the phone, and reinstalling the app, to no 
avail. then, I grabbed my android tablet, only to have achieved the same. 
Anyone else experiencing it, or is it my account, please?

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Dice world issue, is it me or their server?

[rajmund]

Hi,
Every time I play, even though I have bonus games enabled, I never get to take 
my bonus rolls. I tried rebooting the phone, and reinstalling the app, to no 
avail. then, I grabbed my android tablet, only to have achieved the same. 
Anyone else experiencing it, or is it my account, please?

Sent from my iPhone 5S

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Apple TV, another one

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
I see some discussions on Apple TV but I have some more questions
  considering the fact I don't live in the US, Canada or UK.
What we have here is some digital TV channels over the air which
  you can watch using the air antenna and some cable/adsl operators
  providing packages of channels for monthly subscription. For most
  operators we need to have analog/digital HD receivers patched via
  analog or HDMI through TV sets.
I already know I can't use the Apple TV over the air, there's no
  way to receive digital signal from the air. I wonder is it
  possible to use Apple TV instead of receivers offered by TV
  operators or it is just limited to internet streams?
Thanks!



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Re: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

[billy inglis]

hi, Is it true Kodi can be installed on the Apple TV?, Billy

On 30/10/2016 00:54, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

Hi,

I have a Fire TV stick:

very limited accessibility.
The stock apps aren't accessible.
Very few third party apps aren't accessible.
Don't do it!!!

Cheers,
Ben.

On 10/30/16, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,


I am trying to decide where to go next, when it comes to my Apple TV.

I love my Apple Tv, and enjoy it very much! I use it all the time.


However, while I want to upgrade, I do have some concerns about the
learning curve. But even more, I have concerns about the cost.

I don't really have the money to purchase a new model, and I most likely
won't for some time now. I know this might not seem like a lot of money
for some of you, and I think this is wonderful!

But unfortunately for me, it is.


So I was looking at the Amazon tv Firestick.

Does anyone on this list know much about this thing?

If not, could someone kindly direct me to a list, where there are blind
people who do know about this?


Also, is this device accessible at all?

If so, by how much? Will only part of it talk?

Would I be able to download apps?


Also, from what I read, it mentioned that you can get a subscription to
Sling tv. From what I understand, Sling tv isn't accessible at all.

So if I got a subscription on the Firestick, wouldn't it likely not be
accessible?


Any help with this, or thoughts on the matter, would be very much
appreciated.


Thank you for reading, and letting me make comparisons.


Terri

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Re: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

[MamaPeach]

It has several buttons, five to be exact, but it also has a small section where 
you can perform gestures like swiping to do certain things. Just remember when 
you first picked up an iDevice for the first time, you really didn’t know what 
to do with it, with an Apple TV, you would have a bit more of an understanding 
now because you have used different iDevices and you know some gestures to use 
to get things accomplished. The new Apple TV also has Siri which makes doing 
things a lot easier. Don’t let it intimidate you, it is easy to use and a 
treasure to have in my opinion. Apple did a great job on the Apple TV, a much 
better job than Amazon or even Roku as far as accessibility.

From: Terri Stimmel 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

Thank you mama peach for your thoughts on the situation. I really appreciate 
it. I had a feeling that the most accessible device would be Apple TV. But I 
wanted to make sure. I can use my iPhone, and my iPad mini pretty well. I still 
learn new things every day, or at least every week. But I love them both very 
much! So are you saying that with the new Apple TV, the remote doesn't have 
buttons like my third generation TV does?
You have to swipe the remote to get things to happen?
I don't think I am very fond of that! It's just me this new or AppleTV seems so 
complicated. I guess I will stick with what I have for now, for as long as I 
can. Maybe I will try to build up the money, and eventually upgrade. But for 
now, I will use what I have for as long if I can. Thank U again for your 
thoughts, and suggestions. Again, I really appreciate it.

Terri

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On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:30 PM -0500, "MamaPeach"  
wrote:


If you want something with speech, the better choice is Apple TV. I know it 
is a lot of money, but none of the other devices that stream are as 
accessible as the Apple TV. If you are able to use gestures on any other 
iDevices, you should be able to use the Apple TV with no problems. Yes, the 
area for swiping is a smaller area but it isn't difficult to use at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

Hello everyone,


I am trying to decide where to go next, when it comes to my Apple TV.

I love my Apple Tv, and enjoy it very much! I use it all the time.


However, while I want to upgrade, I do have some concerns about the
learning curve. But even more, I have concerns about the cost.

I don't really have the money to purchase a new model, and I most likely
won't for some time now. I know this might not seem like a lot of money
for some of you, and I think this is wonderful!

But unfortunately for me, it is.


So I was looking at the Amazon tv Firestick.

Does anyone on this list know much about this thing?

If not, could someone kindly direct me to a list, where there are blind
people who do know about this?


Also, is this device accessible at all?

If so, by how much? Will only part of it talk?

Would I be able to download apps?


Also, from what I read, it mentioned that you can get a subscription to
Sling tv. From what I understand, Sling tv isn't accessible at all.

So if I got a subscription on the Firestick, wouldn't it likely not be
accessible?


Any help with this, or thoughts on the matter, would be very much
appreciated.


Thank you for reading, and letting me make comparisons.


Terri

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Re: apple tv confusion

[Kliphton Miller]

As it stands now you need a subscription to access the major networks.  But by 
the beginning of next year we will have multiple streaming options.
Google is coming out with what they call "google unplugged". They claim to 
already signed a deal with CBS, Hulu can't even say that.  they claim to have 
all the disney and ESPN channels, along with fox and NBC networks.
Hulu claims to have a streaming service coming, and says there's will be priced 
with all compitition.
SlingTV already has a streaming app, but it's not very accessible, and 
depending on your area, the feed is a bit choppy at best.
Now, directv says there's will be ready by the end of the year, and claim they 
will offer over 100 channels, even wants there current customers to eventually 
migrate to the directv now app, so they can cut out technicians and equipment.  
They also are trying to buy time warner, so we will see how this all plays out. 
 I hope directv does launch there app soon,cause rumor has it, they will offer 
the sunday ticket for the Nfl as a stand alone package too.  Guess we will see.

Kliph
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On Oct 29, 2016, at 8:26 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:

You will need to keep a cable subscription to access most of what is available 
on Apple TV. There is free content but if you want to access shows on those 
apps that you mentioned, you will need to sign in with your cable provider's 
cradentials in order to do so.

-Original Message- From: david gross
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple tv confusion

I am still stuck in a cable contract but hope to cut the cord when it is up.

I am still confused about apple tv and what it can do.

Can I cut the cord as far as tv and phone and keep my internet to use apple tv? 
Or do I still need a cable subscription to use it?

My wife has favorite shows on he 4 major networks as well as tlc, Lifetime, and 
Hallmark movie channel. I am interested in the mlb network.

With apple tv, are all these choices available?

With apple tv do you need apps from each network, or does hulu or netflicks 
allow access to most everything?

What is the delay time in obtaining a show? If survivor is on cbs this 
wednesday, when can a apple tv userr get it?

Can apple tv be used with apps already on our other apple devices?

Any feedback is appreciated.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

[Kliphton Miller]

There are buttons on the apppleTV siri remote, but you can tell siri to do just 
about anything.  Takes a little getting use to, but in no time you will master 
it.

Kliph
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 1:02 AM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:

Last week, amazon released the alexa tv fire stick.  You should be able to talk 
to it if it is set up correctly.  I haven't been able to successfully set it up 
by myself.  I got it for my husband who loves the amazon echo.  There is no 
online manual for this gadget yet.  There is an echo group for blind people.  
They discuss anything related to the amazon alexa or (echo)
To subscribe to this list,
Send a message to 
echoing+subscr...@groups.io
WhenI get someone to set it up, I will post my findings on the echoing email 
list
 Because I know it is off topic on this list.
On Oct 30, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Thank you mama peach for your thoughts on the situation. I really appreciate 
it. I had a feeling that the most accessible device would be Apple TV. But I 
wanted to make sure. I can use my iPhone, and my iPad mini pretty well. I still 
learn new things every day, or at least every week. But I love them both very 
much! So are you saying that with the new Apple TV, the remote doesn't have 
buttons like my third generation TV does?
You have to swipe the remote to get things to happen?
I don't think I am very fond of that! It's just me this new or AppleTV seems so 
complicated. I guess I will stick with what I have for now, for as long as I 
can. Maybe I will try to build up the money, and eventually upgrade. But for 
now, I will use what I have for as long if I can. Thank U again for your 
thoughts, and suggestions. Again, I really appreciate it.

Terri

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On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:30 PM -0500, "MamaPeach"  
wrote:

If you want something with speech, the better choice is Apple TV. I know it 
is a lot of money, but none of the other devices that stream are as 
accessible as the Apple TV. If you are able to use gestures on any other 
iDevices, you should be able to use the Apple TV with no problems. Yes, the 
area for swiping is a smaller area but it isn't difficult to use at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

Hello everyone,


I am trying to decide where to go next, when it comes to my Apple TV.

I love my Apple Tv, and enjoy it very much! I use it all the time.


However, while I want to upgrade, I do have some concerns about the
learning curve. But even more, I have concerns about the cost.

I don't really have the money to purchase a new model, and I most likely
won't for some time now. I know this might not seem like a lot of money
for some of you, and I think this is wonderful!

But unfortunately for me, it is.


So I was looking at the Amazon tv Firestick.

Does anyone on this list know much about this thing?

If not, could someone kindly direct me to a list, where there are blind
people who do know about this?


Also, is this device accessible at all?

If so, by how much? Will only part of it talk?

Would I be able to download apps?


Also, from what I read, it mentioned that you can get a subscription to
Sling tv. From what I understand, Sling tv isn't accessible at all.

So if I got a subscription on the Firestick, wouldn't it likely not be
accessible?


Any help with this, or thoughts on the matter, would be very much
appreciated.


Thank you for reading, and letting me make comparisons.


Terri

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Dictation only works on my iPhone 6 when earphones are connected. Why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

guys,

I’m finding that dictation only works on my iPhone 6 with iOS 9 or 10 when my 
earphones are connected.  Since my phones have a bad wire that causes only one 
ear to work, I assumed that the failure of dictation was global.  but, weirdly 
enough, when my phones are connected, I get a great dictation response.  I 
would prefer not to have to wear earphones, working or not, to use the 
dictation feature. Any ideas?  Dictation works fine on my iPad Air 2 without 
phones.  

Since i never visit this forum, I’d be grateful if responders would copy me at 
this address:
kevj...@me.com , in addition to replying to the group.  

thanks for understanding,
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Re: too much text games

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yeah! Ticon Bluthey are making nice games...


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2016年10月30日 週日，Michael Feir  寫道﹕

 主題: Re: too much text games
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2016年10月30日,星期日,上午12:19
 
 There are many audio
 games. Ticon Blu has done Audeo Rally Racing and another
 racing game. They also have adventure games called The
 Inquisator and a hidden object game called She Noire.
 Codename Cygnus, probably spellt wrong, is another audio
 adventure game where you are a secret agent. Of course,
 there are the Something Else LTD games like Papa Sangre II
 and Audio Defence. There are lots of audio games out there
 and I expect many more will appear over the next couple of
 years.
 
 Michael Feir
 
 Twitter: mfeir
 Skype: michael-feir
 Check out
 my blog at:
 http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca
 
 Creator of Journeys of the
 Mind lectures
 2015
 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2015/01/journeys-of-mind-play-is-where.html?m=0
 
 Volunteer at New Horizons Peel
 Multicultural Centre
 www.peelmc.ca
 2014
 
 Disability advocate
 Meadowvale
 Community Christian Reformed Church
 www.meadowvalecrc.ca
 2013--2014
 

 Volunteer at The Dam
 http://www.thedam.org 
 2011-2013
 Author of Personal
 Power:
 How Accessible Computers Can Enhance
 Personal Life For Blind People
 2006-2008
 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/personal-power.html
 

 A Life of Word and Sound
 2003-2007
 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/life-of-word-and-sound.html
 

 Creator and former editor
 of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004
 
 > On Oct 29, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Richard
 Turner 
 wrote:
 > 
 > FYI, you
 don't know when you are at the end level because you
 just keep having to shoot more zombies and no next level
 comes up.  So, when you hit a level that lasts much longer
 than the previous ones, you are probably at the end.  Note
 the last line below from the description:
 > Description 
 > 
 > Zombies from out of space invaded earth.
 Took all the women, good food and Jack's rubber ducky.
 Jack sets out on a zombie killing rampage to get back his
 rubber ducky so he can take a bath. Armed with a shotgun,
 machete and surrounded by zombies, Jack is certain to
 introduce those rubber-ducky-stealing alien zombies to a
 world of pain!
 > 
 >
 There's only one problem: Jack is blind. Use your
 hearing to locate the zombies before they attack. Pull the
 trigger or machete the hell out of 'm to retake Jack’s
 rubber ducky.
 > 
 > *
 3D AUDIO ENGINE GIVES NEW MEANING TO FPS!
 > 
 > There are no visuals
 on the screen that are relevant to survival. Learn where the
 buttons are, close your eyes and trust your ears. The 3d
 Audio Augmented Reality Engine uses intelligent algorithms
 to reproduce how our ears hear perceive the world around us.
 This game literally demands a killer hearing…
 > 
 > Jack is a bad
 tempored alcoholic who doesn't care for anything but his
 rubber ducky. All Jack does is sit at home, jobless, looking
 at action movies or 

Re: too much text games

['Ming' via VIPhone]

yeah! 
I like the Blindfold  RS games.


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2016年10月30日 週日，Andy Baracco  寫道﹕

 主題: Re: too much text games
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2016年10月30日,星期日,上午5:37
 
 Blindfold Games has
 several different kinds of games, ranging from bowling 
 to horse racing.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Michael Feir
 Sent:
 Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:19 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: too much text games
 
 There are many audio games.
 Ticon Blu has done Audeo Rally Racing and 
 another racing game. They also have adventure
 games called The Inquisator 
 and a hidden
 object game called She Noire. Codename Cygnus, probably
 spellt 
 wrong, is another audio adventure
 game where you are a secret agent. Of 
 course, there are the Something Else LTD games
 like Papa Sangre II and Audio 
 Defence.
 There are lots of audio games out there and I expect many
 more will 
 appear over the next couple of
 years.
 
 Michael Feir
 
 Twitter: mfeir
 Skype: michael-feir
 Check out
 my blog at:
 http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca
 
 Creator of Journeys of the
 Mind lectures
 2015
 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2015/01/journeys-of-mind-play-is-where.html?m=0
 
 Volunteer at New Horizons Peel
 Multicultural Centre
 www.peelmc.ca
 2014
 
 Disability advocate
 Meadowvale
 Community Christian Reformed Church
 www.meadowvalecrc.ca
 2013--2014
 
 Volunteer at The Dam
 http://www.thedam.org
 2011-2013
 Author of Personal
 Power:
 How Accessible Computers Can Enhance
 Personal Life For Blind People
 2006-2008
 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/personal-power.html
 
 A Life of Word and Sound
 2003-2007
 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.ca/2009/01/life-of-word-and-sound.html
 
 Creator and former editor of
 Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004
 
 > On Oct 29, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Richard
 Turner 
 
 > wrote:
 >
 > FYI, you don't know when you are at
 the end level because you just keep 
 >
 having to shoot more zombies and no next level comes up. 
 So, when you hit 
 > a level that lasts
 much longer than the previous ones, you are probably at 
 > the end.  Note the last line below from
 the description:
 > Description
 >
 > Zombies from out of
 space invaded earth. Took all the women, good food and 
 > Jack's rubber ducky. Jack sets out on
 a zombie killing rampage to get back 
 >
 his rubber ducky so he can take a bath. Armed with a
 shotgun, machete and 
 > surrounded by
 zombies, Jack is certain to introduce those 
 > rubber-ducky-stealing alien zombies to a
 world of pain!
 >
 >
 There's only one problem: Jack is blind. Use your
 hearing to locate the 
 > zombies before
 they attack. Pull the trigger or machete the hell out of
 'm 
 > to retake Jack’s rubber
 ducky.
 >
 > * 3D AUDIO
 ENGINE GIVES NEW MEANING TO FPS!
 >
 > There are no visuals on the screen that
 are relevant to survival. Learn 
 > where
 the buttons are, close your eyes and trust your ears. The 3d
 Audio 
 > Augmented Reality Engine uses
 intelligent algorithms to reproduce how our 
 > ears hear perceive the world around us.
 This game literally demands a 
 > killer
 hearing…
 >
 > Jack is
 a bad tempored alcoholic who doesn't care for anything
 but his 
 > rubber ducky. All Jack does is
 sit at home, jobless, looking at action 
 > movies or 

RE: too much text games

['Ming' via VIPhone]

I think most of my favourite games are stop updating 
such as audio defence, sixsense.


and the recently audio game  hub as well.

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2016年10月30日 週日，Richard Turner  寫道﹕

 主題: RE: too much text games
 收件人: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
 日期: 2016年10月30日,星期日,上午3:13
 
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 If you got to the point where it
 never ended, as in, no knew level was announced, you beat
 it. 
 Send the level number to the
 developers with your mailing address and see if you get
 anything. 
    
 I don’t want to say too much as
 I don’t know if they are still doing what they used to
 do. 
    
 Richard 
    
    
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Paul Ferrara
 
 Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:09 PM
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Subject: Re: too much text games 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 That Rubber
 Ducky game is fun, but can you ever beat it; I got to some
 ridiculous level and killed hundreds of zombees and it never
 ended. 
 
 
   
 
 
 Paul 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 From:
 
 Richard Turner  
 
 
 Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:11
 AM 
 
 
 To:
 viphone@googlegroups.com
  
 
 
 Subject: Re: too much text
 games 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 If you have
 not tried Where's My Rubber Ducky, and you have an
 iPhone, give it a try. It is a Zombie shooting game. Be sure
 and read the description. It requires GPS as you have
  to actually turn the phone to get the zombie in the center
 of your headphones to shoot them. You have to where stereo
 earphones. 
 
 
   
 
 
 You can
 switch to a sword so it isn't quite so loud. 
 
 
 You may
 also want to go to there web site to read more about
 it. 
 
 
 here is the
 app store link: 
 
 
 Where's
 my rubber ducky by Accessibility Foundation 
 
 
 https://appsto.re/us/qUUTE.i
 
 
 
   
 
 
 richard 
 
 
   
 
 
 “By doing
 what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of
 others." 
 
 
 - Satsuki
 Shibuya 
 
 
    
 
 
    
 
 (Sent from my iPod 6) 
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:34 PM, 'Ming' via VIPhone
 
 wrote: 
 
 
 
 hi! all,
 
 I'm still looking for some exciting games for my
 IPhone.
 
 I think if you look at the apple vis site.
 
 their are too much text base games or quiz games.
 
 anyone  know that if there have some exciting audio games
 coming soon this year.
 
 I like some kinds of shooting games like audio defence.
 
 and audio game hub or some adventure game such as  a blind
 legin 
 
 
 
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Re: too much text games

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I hope some of the games that is accessible on the computer like shade of doom, 
gma tank commender 

will be on   IOS soon.


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2016年10月30日 週日，Monica Jones  寫道﹕

 主題: Re: too much text games
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2016年10月30日,星期日,上午9:34
 
 Lol,  that rubber ducky
 game is so very silly but I love it. It gives me a 
 good lift when I need something silly to pick
 me up.
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: '智明 鍾' via VIPhone
 Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 8:44 AM
 To: Richard Turner
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: too much text games
 
 I have this game. And the six
 cents  as well.
 I think the game you have
 introduced me they have never and.
 And start
 updated since 2012.
 
 Ming
 Skype: chungchiming9950
 
 
 > On 29 Oct 2016, at 7:11
 PM, Richard Turner 
 
 > wrote:
 >
 > If you have not tried Where's My
 Rubber Ducky, and you have an iPhone, 
 >
 give=
 > it a try. It is a Zombie shooting
 game. Be sure and read the description. 
 > =
 > It requires GPS as
 you have to actually turn the phone to get the zombie 
 > in=
 > the center of
 your headphones to shoot them. You have to where stereo 
 > earp=
 > hones.
 >
 > You can switch to a
 sword so it isn't quite so loud.
 >
 You may also want to go to there web site to read more about
 it.
 > here is the app store link:
 > Where's my rubber ducky by
 Accessibility Foundation
 > https://appsto.re/us/qUUTE.i
 >
 > richard
 >
 > "By doing what
 you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of
 others."
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Re: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

[Melissa Tucker]

Last week, amazon released the alexa tv fire stick.  You should be able to talk 
to it if it is set up correctly.  I haven't been able to successfully set it up 
by myself.  I got it for my husband who loves the amazon echo.  There is no 
online manual for this gadget yet.  There is an echo group for blind people.  
They discuss anything related to the amazon alexa or (echo)
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WhenI get someone to set it up, I will post my findings on the echoing email 
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 Because I know it is off topic on this list.
On Oct 30, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Thank you mama peach for your thoughts on the situation. I really appreciate 
it. I had a feeling that the most accessible device would be Apple TV. But I 
wanted to make sure. I can use my iPhone, and my iPad mini pretty well. I still 
learn new things every day, or at least every week. But I love them both very 
much! So are you saying that with the new Apple TV, the remote doesn't have 
buttons like my third generation TV does?
You have to swipe the remote to get things to happen?
I don't think I am very fond of that! It's just me this new or AppleTV seems so 
complicated. I guess I will stick with what I have for now, for as long as I 
can. Maybe I will try to build up the money, and eventually upgrade. But for 
now, I will use what I have for as long if I can. Thank U again for your 
thoughts, and suggestions. Again, I really appreciate it.

Terri

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If you want something with speech, the better choice is Apple TV. I know it 
is a lot of money, but none of the other devices that stream are as 
accessible as the Apple TV. If you are able to use gestures on any other 
iDevices, you should be able to use the Apple TV with no problems. Yes, the 
area for swiping is a smaller area but it isn't difficult to use at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Just doing some comparing of Apple TV and Amazon Firestick

Hello everyone,


I am trying to decide where to go next, when it comes to my Apple TV.

I love my Apple Tv, and enjoy it very much! I use it all the time.


However, while I want to upgrade, I do have some concerns about the
learning curve. But even more, I have concerns about the cost.

I don't really have the money to purchase a new model, and I most likely
won't for some time now. I know this might not seem like a lot of money
for some of you, and I think this is wonderful!

But unfortunately for me, it is.


So I was looking at the Amazon tv Firestick.

Does anyone on this list know much about this thing?

If not, could someone kindly direct me to a list, where there are blind
people who do know about this?


Also, is this device accessible at all?

If so, by how much? Will only part of it talk?

Would I be able to download apps?


Also, from what I read, it mentioned that you can get a subscription to
Sling tv. From what I understand, Sling tv isn't accessible at all.

So if I got a subscription on the Firestick, wouldn't it likely not be
accessible?


Any help with this, or thoughts on the matter, would be very much
appreciated.


Thank you for reading, and letting me make comparisons.


Terri

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I hope it is not only just audio games.
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2016年10月30日 週日，Rafał Marzec  寫道﹕

 主題: Re: too much text games
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2016年10月30日,星期日,下午1:41
 
 Hi
 I am
 fully understand what you mean i'm also tired of this
 kind of games
 Currently my small company is
 looking for an ios  developer Who helps me to create a new
 audiogame which will be released on kickstarter
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 > On 29 Oct 2016, at 7:34
 am, 'Ming' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
 > 
 > hi!
 all,
 > I'm still looking for some
 exciting games for my IPhone.
 > I think
 if you look at the apple vis site.
 >
 their are too much text base games or quiz games.
 > anyone  know that if there have some
 exciting audio games coming soon this year.
 > I like some kinds of shooting games like
 audio defence.
 > and audio game hub or
 some adventure game such as  a blind legin 
 > 
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