RE: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

[Jim Ruby]

The amazon alexa app nees some work, there are big time focus problems with 
voice over. I bet they are not testing it with voice over on using the voice 
over gestures etc.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an 
accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

Good point, so I’ll mention it here:  I and my wife and constantly making use 
of the Amazon Echo feature which lets you create shopping lists.  My problem 
with VO is that when I use the Alexa app on the Iphone, and try to take items 
off of the list once purchased (by tapping the checkbox next to the item), most 
of the time the checkbox remains unchecked.  Rarely it will changed to 
“checked” status, but it’s completely random.

 

I’ve written to Amazon a couple of times, and called them on the phone once, 
and they’ve told me their testing hasn’t turned up any issues with the app; so, 
I’ll write Apple to see if it’s a VO problem instead of an Alexa app problem.

 

Anyone have any ideas?  Can anyone else duplicate this?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Hi Chip,

 

What problem are you planning to report? I find it’s often a good idea to also 
post it to the list and in fact I sometimes post something to the list and CC 
Apple Accessibility on it or vice versa since sometimes what I think might be a 
bug is something others don’t experience, have a fix for or in some cases Apple 
may have changed how something is supposed to work and it may appear as a bug 
when it is not. I am not saying this is the case with your issue, but if you 
let the list know then others can try to reproduce it as well and add their 
voice to yours in reporting it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Can someone give me the email to use in order to report a possible IOS 
accessibility issue to Apple?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

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RE: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

[Jim Ruby]

Hi, I have also filled out the feedback form, but it is amazon. Probably will 
be fixed in ten years to never.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an 
accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Hello,

For what it's worth, this is how I usually use the Alexa App on my iPhone 6S 
Plus iOS 10.1.1.

This is how I activate links or check boxes.

I double Tap, I hold the tap for a second or so and it usually works. But if I 
tap quickly and release my finger, usually things won't work. I have also 
spoken to Amazon and filled out the feedback form, but??

Just my thoughts on the subject.

 

Dan


On Dec 11, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:

Hi Sieghard,

 

Good point, so I’ll mention it here:  I and my wife and constantly making use 
of the Amazon Echo feature which lets you create shopping lists.  My problem 
with VO is that when I use the Alexa app on the Iphone, and try to take items 
off of the list once purchased (by tapping the checkbox next to the item), most 
of the time the checkbox remains unchecked.  Rarely it will changed to 
“checked” status, but it’s completely random.

 

I’ve written to Amazon a couple of times, and called them on the phone once, 
and they’ve told me their testing hasn’t turned up any issues with the app; so, 
I’ll write Apple to see if it’s a VO problem instead of an Alexa app problem.

 

Anyone have any ideas?  Can anyone else duplicate this?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Hi Chip,

 

What problem are you planning to report? I find it’s often a good idea to also 
post it to the list and in fact I sometimes post something to the list and CC 
Apple Accessibility on it or vice versa since sometimes what I think might be a 
bug is something others don’t experience, have a fix for or in some cases Apple 
may have changed how something is supposed to work and it may appear as a bug 
when it is not. I am not saying this is the case with your issue, but if you 
let the list know then others can try to reproduce it as well and add their 
voice to yours in reporting it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Can someone give me the email to use in order to report a possible IOS 
accessibility issue to Apple?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

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RE: Philips Hue Lights - first impressions

[Jim Ruby]

Thanks for this, I am thinking of automating my home, but still am debating on 
what one to go with. I do have appletv 4 and want it as hands free and 
technically challenged proof as possible. I want it to work with those who 
don’t know much of anything about computers and I do have a firned who has a 
memory problem, so has to be versatile. Probably to tall of an order for now, 
but soon.

 

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Philips Hue Lights - first impressions

 

Hi,

 

Thought I post a few thoughts about the Philips Hue lights I recently 
purchased. To start out with I can say that both my wife and I are very 
impressed and happy with how this system works. I am the sort of guy who likes 
to read as few instructions as possible when it comes to setting up these type 
of gadgets. When I received the stuff I put in all the light bulbs and then 
connected the bridge and downloaded the app. As soon as I opened it I was 
guided through the setup quite nicely, but hit a bit of a snag when I was told 
that in order to set up Home Kit integration I had to either scan an 8-digit 
“Home Kit Code” or enter it manually. The app said the code was in the 
packaging or on the accessory. I asked my wife to look and she did see it on 
the bottom of the bridge and also I think in the little booklet that came in 
the box, but for some reason it wouldn’t scan and since it’s only 8 digits I 
just quickly entered it manually.

What I thought wasn’t explained too well was how to set up the individual 
lights and rooms, it’s fairly intuitive, but the app said to make sure all 
lights were turned on which means to make sure the actual wall switch was on so 
they have power because of course if a light is turned off at the wall switch 
it is not available to be controlled and the idea is to leave the wall switches 
on and to turn on the lights either by telling SIRI to turn them off or you can 
very easily use the Home app to do this and once Home integration is set up 
there actually is a third page when you pull up the control centre which can 
show up to 9 accessories and you can turn lights on or off simply by tapping on 
the light you want to control and it turns on or off, if you swipe down or up 
(rotor action) you get a “Show More Controls” and this opens up a screen where 
you have a slider where you can flick up and down and control the brightness, 
from 100% all the way down to I think 2%.

Anyhow, back to the setup. When I turned on all the lights they all showed up 
with the name of the bulb model, e.g. Philips Hue White” or “Philips Hue 
Ambient White” etc. The problem was that I have 6 of the ambient white and 3 of 
the just white and I had no way to figure out which light was where. I then 
decided to turn off all lights with their wall switch and only leave on, for 
example, the hallway light where I happen to have just one of the 3 white 
bulbs. Once Idid this all lights shows as offline except for this one and I 
then went ahead and renamed it “Hallway”. Then I turned on the light at my 
front door/entry way. Here are two white bulbs and I didn’t really care which 
one was which and I just called them Front Door 1 and Front Door 2. Then I did 
the Kitchen where I have a lamp over the dining table, a 3-bulb fixture in the 
middle and a 2-bulb fixture over the sink area. I only had enough bulbs to put 
in one over the sink and 2 in the middle and by using the same method as before 
I named them Dining table, Kitchen 1 and Kitchen 2 and Kitchen Sink 1. Lastly I 
did the bedroom where I have 1 bulb in the ceiling fixture and 1 in my wife’s 
bedsight lamp, I called them Bedroom Ceiling and Jackie’s Lamp.

Once that was done I was easily able to group, for example Front Door 1 and 
Front Door 2 into a room I called “Front Door”, similarly I grouped Kitchen 1 
and Kitchen 2 together as “Kitchen”.

Interestingly enough I looked all over the place in the Philips Hue app and 
could not really find any place where you can turn the lights on or off. I 
think the app is primarily for setup, you can setup your rooms, SIRI voice 
control, create scenes (or pick from existing ones) and so on. I haven’t played 
around with the scenes a lot yet, but they are things like “Bright”, “Read”, 
“Nightlight”, “Energize” etc. If you have ambient white bulbs you get things 
like “Tropical Twilight”, “Savanna Sunset” etc. and if you have the colour 
bulbs you can do even more as they can do 16 million colours.

I then tried to set up my wife’s iPhone to work with SIRI and then realized 
that once I connected the Hue bridge to her phone that it disconnected it from 
mine, e.g. SIRI voice control was only working either on my phone or on hers. I 
then decided to do a bit of reading and learned that I had to make sure it was 
working on mine and then I can invite/share people to use it. Th

Problem

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit field and 
whenever I press space the content disappears. I've rebooted my phone... took 
messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any suggesttions? 

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Re: Braille to speech apps?

[Cathy Inglis]

When I bought the app, it did say that it would work with bard books. That's 
all I know. That's the reason why I got the app. Now, I can't get any help, and 
I paid $14.95 Plus tax, for this app, and now it doesn't work. And Apple won't 
give me back the money, and I understand, I've had over 30 days, but I can't 
get any response from the creator. It says it still and other app stores, just 
not in the US App Store.
 I'm on a fixed income, so I was excited to be able to have this app. I bought 
this app  in the summer, so it's not that old. Oh well, I guess I'll just have 
to forget about it. If someone can help me, that would be great. Sorry that I 
rented.
Cathy and Tiny.

> On Dec 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I know that. 
> I simply think if people want to listen to books, they shouldn't use a 
> braille file.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Dec 11, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
>> Richard,
>>  
>> Grade I, or uncontracted, Braille isn’t the same as Computer braille. So 
>> you’d have the file in pure uncontracted braille format.
>>  
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?
>>  
>> I am fairly sure that Winston Chen did not develop the Voice Braille Reader, 
>> but you could write him directly at supp...@voicedream.com
>> to be sure.
>> Just to be clear, BARD braille books are not and never have been designed to 
>> be read by anything but a braille display. In fact, when using a braille 
>> display, you have to set it to uncontracted braille because if you try and 
>> use contracted braille it is attempting to contract things that are already 
>> contracted. To have a device read one of their brf files, it would have to 
>> be set to read computer code out loud, since, for example, the symbol for "t 
>> h e" is an exclamation mark, 'it would have to know that when it comes 
>> across an exclamation mark to speak that as those letters instead of 
>> treating it as a punctuation mark.
>>  
>>  
>> What about looking for the same title on Bookshare.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
>> - Satsuki Shibuya
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 1:13 AM, Cathy Inglis  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have the book invoice braille reader. When I press the speaker button, it 
>>> is just jibber jabber. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't seem to recognize 
>>> it as a grade to braille. Is this only supposed to read grade one braille? 
>>> It's said that it could read bard books, when I got it. I wrote to the 
>>> developer, but got the message back, saying it was undeliverable. Really 
>>> I'm sad about this. I believe it's the same developer of voice dream 
>>> reader, but not sure. Cathy and Tiny.
>>> 
> On Dec 10, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
 
  Lets all of us who want to read brf files, contact the developer of 
 oice dream reader to add this option?
 
 -Original Message- From: Timothy Emmons
 Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?
 
 Hey, that would be awesome. I would love to find it. Too bad we can't 
 share apps and get them that way. Lol. But, just let us know. I'll 
 contin*e to keep an eye out. I don't want te carry two different devices 
 when I can just cary one. Lol. Thanks again and take care.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 9, 2016, at 9:46 AM, susan  wrote:
> 
> Kathy,
> I haven't used it much, but you basically have to move your BARD Braille 
> files into Dropbox and export it from there into Voicebraille reader. 
> Then in Voicebraille you need to turn voiceover off once you press the 
> sxpeak button to begin reading. It's not fancy or perfect but does work 
> and isn't difficult once you get the hang of it. Let me know if you need 
> more help. For Tim, I think I got to it from the Appleviz site but it was 
> a bit tricky to find so maybe a Google search? Of course, it may be 
> removed, will try to find out later.
> 
> Susan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Cathy Inglis
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 2:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?
> 
> I have voice braille reader, but I can't seem to get it to work with bard 
> books. Can anybody please help me do this. I really really do want to be 
> able to use the app with  bard braille books. I do have a book that was 
> put in there from Bard, I was able to do that, but I can't seem to get it 
> to read.
> 
> Cathy and Tiny.
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps we should ask the de

Re: Problem

[Wayne Merritt]

When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you mean
the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to find
the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit field and
> whenever I press space the content disappears. I've rebooted my phone...
> took messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any
> suggesttions?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Problem

[rajmund]

Hello,
This happens if you touch something, like a link, or some sort of 
a thing, that is not a part of the keyboard.


Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: Wayne Merritt When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you 
mean
the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues 
with
Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the 
virtual
keyboard will suddenly disappear.  It is terribly frustrating 
since I
can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to 
find

the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
Hi all.  I'm trying to write in a message field...  and another 
edit field and
whenever I press space the content disappears.  I've rebooted my 
phone...
took messages out of the app switcher...  still not working.  
Any

suggesttions?

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Re: Problem

[Jenifer Barr]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you mean
> the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
> Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
> keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
> can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to find
> the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.
> 
> Wayne
> 
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Re: Problem

[rajmund]

Hello Wane,
Fair enough that I'm on the beta, but for example, when typing an 
email address, somewhere like appleID.apple.com, if I explore too 
much, or touch too far up the screen, the field loses focus.  
It's not an issue on my iPad, that's also fair enough, but that, 
because of the email issue, I left on IOS9.3.5.  It could be a 
bug, I'm not sure, but that's how it appears for me.  If you 
would like me to reproduce it, somehow, I'd be happy to do so.


Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: Wayne Merritt field then because as soon as I hit space or after I have typed a 
few
letters, the keyboard immediately disappears.  I go to type 
another
letter, and find that the keyboard has been replaced by the web 
page.
Several times I have had to get my sighted wife to turn VoiceOver 
off
and fill out the form for me.  I don't think this happened with 
the

initial release of iOS 10.  I'm using iOS 10.1.1 on an iPhone 7.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  
wrote:


When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do 
you mean
the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues 
with
Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the 
virtual
keyboard will suddenly disappear.  It is terribly frustrating 
since I
can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to 
find

the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.

Wayne

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Hi all.  I'm trying to write in a message field...  and another 
edit field

and
whenever I press space the content disappears.  I've rebooted my 
phone...
took messages out of the app switcher...  still not working.  
Any

suggesttions?

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Re: Problem

[Wayne Merritt]

Rajmund, I must be rapidly touching something outside of the edit
field then because as soon as I hit space or after I have typed a few
letters, the keyboard immediately disappears. I go to type another
letter, and find that the keyboard has been replaced by the web page.
Several times I have had to get my sighted wife to turn VoiceOver off
and fill out the form for me. I don't think this happened with the
initial release of iOS 10. I'm using iOS 10.1.1 on an iPhone 7.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you mean
>> the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
>> Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
>> keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
>> can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to find
>> the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit field
>>> and
>>> whenever I press space the content disappears. I've rebooted my phone...
>>> took messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any
>>> suggesttions?
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Re: Problem

[Mary Otten]

I have seen this happen on the web occasionally. But it's a very inconsistent, 
and I can get the edit box back just by tapping on it, and the keyboard comes 
back. And everything is normal. It is irritating, but like I say, it's so 
inconsistent that I'm thinking it might have to do with the actual webpage or 
form for some reason or another. I am also running the beta.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 6:18 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Rajmund, I must be rapidly touching something outside of the edit
> field then because as soon as I hit space or after I have typed a few
> letters, the keyboard immediately disappears. I go to type another
> letter, and find that the keyboard has been replaced by the web page.
> Several times I have had to get my sighted wife to turn VoiceOver off
> and fill out the form for me. I don't think this happened with the
> initial release of iOS 10. I'm using iOS 10.1.1 on an iPhone 7.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you mean
>>> the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
>>> Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
>>> keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
>>> can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to find
>>> the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
 Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit field
 and
 whenever I press space the content disappears. I've rebooted my phone...
 took messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any
 suggesttions?
 
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Re: Problem

[Wayne Merritt]

The site where it happened this weekend was a site that probably has
it's own accessibility issues:
www.megabus.com
I was trying to fill out the date field, and after writing a few
numbers in the date, the field disappeared. This was one where when my
wife looked without VoiceOver, she had some issues herself. Though the
keyboard did not disappear for her, it was not obvious how to buy
tickets from that site. I will keep watching this behavior to get some
sort of pattern. I don't use Safari all the time, but I do use it
fairly often.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have seen this happen on the web occasionally. But it's a very
> inconsistent, and I can get the edit box back just by tapping on it, and the
> keyboard comes back. And everything is normal. It is irritating, but like I
> say, it's so inconsistent that I'm thinking it might have to do with the
> actual webpage or form for some reason or another. I am also running the
> beta.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 6:18 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> Rajmund, I must be rapidly touching something outside of the edit
>> field then because as soon as I hit space or after I have typed a few
>> letters, the keyboard immediately disappears. I go to type another
>> letter, and find that the keyboard has been replaced by the web page.
>> Several times I have had to get my sighted wife to turn VoiceOver off
>> and fill out the form for me. I don't think this happened with the
>> initial release of iOS 10. I'm using iOS 10.1.1 on an iPhone 7.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

 When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you mean
 the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
 Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
 keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
 can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to find
 the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.

 Wayne

> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit
> field
> and
> whenever I press space the content disappears. I've rebooted my
> phone...
> took messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any
> suggesttions?
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Re: New app for finding traffic lights

[Erjon B. Hatillari]

Yes it would be great if you could do that.

Erjon.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2, Demir Ajvazi wrote:
>
> Hi, first of all, let me say this is one of the better apps that I've 
> seen. Since I live in Serbia, I am not able to try it, but if you could 
> include this Balcan countries, such as Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and so on, 
> it would be great. Of course, I can even try to contact the department of 
> traphic regulation about contacting you, and send you the needed data so 
> you can make the application usable to us. Just tell me if you are willing 
> to do it, and we can start:). 
> Wish you all the best
> Demir Ajvazi
> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 4:13:06 PM UTC+1, Erjon B. Hatillari wrote:
>
>> Hey Andy and Shubert,
>>
>> Because i have too many requests  right now and i'm still working on 
>> improving the app and adding new cities, it would be great if you could 
>> talk to the department of transportation about this app so they can get in 
>> touch with me and send me their data. It will make my job much easier.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:05:52 PM UTC+2, Andrew J. LaPointe 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *Hi, would it be possible to add Salem, Mass?  We have many 
>>> individuals with visual impairments and tourist from all over the world.  
>>> It would be very valuable here.  Andy and Shubert*
>>>  
>>> *From:* Erjon B. Hatillari 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:46 AM
>>> *To:* VIPhone 
>>> *Subject:* Re: New app for finding traffic lights
>>>  
>>> Hey Thom, 
>>>  
>>> Regarding your questions. 
>>> I have added the traffic light positions manually. 
>>> It doesn't let you know if the light is green or not but it is in my 
>>> plans to do it.
>>> Next week i'm going to update the app so it can give vibrations to an 
>>> apple watch as well as play an audio message in case you use headsets.
>>> I'm still working on navigation in order to make it as good as 
>>> blindsquare but free of charge.
>>>  
>>> Erjon.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 11:59:56 PM UTC+2, Thom3of5 wrote: 

 Hi Erjon,

 I can look in to it. I looked on the site to get an idea of how this 
 works, and couldn’t find a manual or anything. How does the phone know 
 there is a traffic light?

 Does it let us know if our parallel  traffic  has a green light?

 Does the app work with the phone in a pocket, or on a hip beltclip?

  

 Thanks, and hope to help you with ideas,

 Thom Spittle

 thom...@gmail.com

 803-331-3344

  

  

 ]*From:* vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Erjon B. Hatillari
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:25 AM
 *To:* VIPhone
 *Subject:* Re: New app for finding traffic lights

  

 Hey Thom,

  

 I already sent an email to Columbia Department of Transportation but i 
 haven't heard back from them. I'm going to call them on Monday but in the 
 meanwhile, if you know anyone that works there you can tell them about my 
 app.

  

 Erjon.

 On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 7:05:15 PM UTC+2, Thom3of5 wrote:

 I agree with Steve. If you include Columbia, South Carolina, we will be 
 able to give you some useful information.

 Thom

 thom...@gmail.com

  

 *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Steve Cook
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:48 PM
 *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: New app for finding traffic lights

  

 How about adding Columbia SC?

  

 Steve Cook, CPM

 Assistive Technology Consultant

 SC Commission for the Blind

 1430 Confederate Avenue

 Columbia, SC 29201

 E-Mail: stc...@sccb.sc.gov

 Phone: (803) 898-8788

 Fax: (803) 898-8882

  

 *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Erjon B. Hatillari
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2016 3:19 PM
 *To:* VIPhone 
 *Subject:* Re: New app for finding traffic lights

  

 Denton in Texas, Portland in Oregon and Toronto in Canada were added in 
 the new update.

  

 Erjon

 On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 9:49:39 PM UTC+2, Gary Bowers wrote:

 I have not tried the following app because it doesn't cover my area. 
 Consequently, I can't answer any questions about it that aren't already 
 on 
 the iTunes page. 

 This is a new free app for travelers who are blind or visually 
 impaired. 

 The app is called City Lights - Navigation and is designed to give a 
 vibration alert as a traveler nears a traffic light. 

 Cities supported at the moment include: 

 Australia: Victoria State. 

 Cana

Re: Braille to speech apps?

[Russ Kiehne]

In my case, I had no choise.  I enjoy very much reading the Stagecoach series 
by Hank Mitchum.  The only way I could read three of these books was to back 
translate three of these books from NLS that were in the brf format.

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?

Yes. It it simpler to read them on a braille display. Happy are we who have 
such. . 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?

I know that. 
I simply think if people want to listen to books, they shouldn't use a braille 
file.


Richard



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- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 11, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:


  Richard, 

  Grade I, or uncontracted, Braille isn’t the same as Computer braille. So 
you’d have the file in pure uncontracted braille format. 

  From: Richard Turner 
  Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:21 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?

  I am fairly sure that Winston Chen did not develop the Voice Braille Reader, 
but you could write him directly at supp...@voicedream.com
  to be sure.
  Just to be clear, BARD braille books are not and never have been designed to 
be read by anything but a braille display. In fact, when using a braille 
display, you have to set it to uncontracted braille because if you try and use 
contracted braille it is attempting to contract things that are already 
contracted. To have a device read one of their brf files, it would have to be 
set to read computer code out loud, since, for example, the symbol for "t h e" 
is an exclamation mark, 'it would have to know that when it comes across an 
exclamation mark to speak that as those letters instead of treating it as a 
punctuation mark.


  What about looking for the same title on Bookshare.
  Richard



  “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
  - Satsuki Shibuya
  (Sent from my iPhone 5S)

  On Dec 11, 2016, at 1:13 AM, Cathy Inglis  wrote:


I have the book invoice braille reader. When I press the speaker button, it 
is just jibber jabber. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't seem to recognize it 
as a grade to braille. Is this only supposed to read grade one braille? It's 
said that it could read bard books, when I got it. I wrote to the developer, 
but got the message back, saying it was undeliverable. Really I'm sad about 
this. I believe it's the same developer of voice dream reader, but not sure. 
Cathy and Tiny.


  On Dec 10, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:



   Lets all of us who want to read brf files, contact the developer of 
oice dream reader to add this option?



  -Original Message- From: Timothy Emmons

  Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:05 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?



  Hey, that would be awesome. I would love to find it. Too bad we can't 
share apps and get them that way. Lol. But, just let us know. I'll contin*e to 
keep an eye out. I don't want te carry two different devices when I can just 
cary one. Lol. Thanks again and take care.



  Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 9, 2016, at 9:46 AM, susan  wrote:



Kathy,

I haven't used it much, but you basically have to move your BARD 
Braille files into Dropbox and export it from there into Voicebraille reader. 
Then in Voicebraille you need to turn voiceover off once you press the sxpeak 
button to begin reading. It's not fancy or perfect but does work and isn't 
difficult once you get the hang of it. Let me know if you need more help. For 
Tim, I think I got to it from the Appleviz site but it was a bit tricky to find 
so maybe a Google search? Of course, it may be removed, will try to find out 
later.



Susan



-Original Message- From: Cathy Inglis

Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 2:10 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?



I have voice braille reader, but I can't seem to get it to work with 
bard books. Can anybody please help me do this. I really really do want to be 
able to use the app with  bard braille books. I do have a book that was put in 
there from Bard, I was able to do that, but I can't seem to get it to read.



Cathy and Tiny.



  On Dec 8, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:



  Perhaps we should ask the developer of voice dream reader if the 
option to read brf files could be added?



  -Original Message- From: Timothy Emmons

  Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:52 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?





  Anna, I've looked in the app store. Unless, it's either IPad 
specific, and I can't find it on m

Re: Problem

[Kimber Gardner]

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On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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>> the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
>> Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
>> keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
>> can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to find
>> the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit field
>>> and
>>> whenever I press space the content disappears. I've rebooted my phone...
>>> took messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any
>>> suggesttions?
>>>
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Re: New app for finding traffic lights

[terrie arnold]

OK is there a page to go to to let me know how this app works, I downloaded it 
and what that did was go to my GPS app tom-tom and gave me a street display of 
my area so hey if Kansas City Missouri is an added to your list of this thing 
working in can you please add probably St. Louis to our all of Missouri Great 
idea
So is this a standalone app or doesn't work with blind square as well so very 
curious can you get some more information on this cause really happy to hear 
this cause this is going to help a lot of people knowing where the street 
lights are on the street so thank you very much God bless you
Is there a webpage to go to to find more information on how this works like sit 
is at Sneed lights.com city lights.net or anything like that so thanks again

My thoughts for today

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Erjon B. Hatillari  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes it would be great if you could do that.
> 
> Erjon.
> 
>> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2, Demir Ajvazi wrote:
>> Hi, first of all, let me say this is one of the better apps that I've seen. 
>> Since I live in Serbia, I am not able to try it, but if you could include 
>> this Balcan countries, such as Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and so on, it would 
>> be great. Of course, I can even try to contact the department of traphic 
>> regulation about contacting you, and send you the needed data so you can 
>> make the application usable to us. Just tell me if you are willing to do it, 
>> and we can start:).
>> Wish you all the best
>> Demir Ajvazi
>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 4:13:06 PM UTC+1, Erjon B. Hatillari wrote:
>>> Hey Andy and Shubert,
>>> 
>>> Because i have too many requests  right now and i'm still working on 
>>> improving the app and adding new cities, it would be great if you could 
>>> talk to the department of transportation about this app so they can get in 
>>> touch with me and send me their data. It will make my job much easier.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
 On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:05:52 PM UTC+2, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
 Hi, would it be possible to add Salem, Mass?  We have many individuals 
 with visual impairments and tourist from all over the world.  It would be 
 very valuable here.  Andy and Shubert
  
 From: Erjon B. Hatillari
 Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:46 AM
 To: VIPhone
 Subject: Re: New app for finding traffic lights
  
 Hey Thom,
  
 Regarding your questions.
 I have added the traffic light positions manually.
 It doesn't let you know if the light is green or not but it is in my plans 
 to do it.
 Next week i'm going to update the app so it can give vibrations to an 
 apple watch as well as play an audio message in case you use headsets.
 I'm still working on navigation in order to make it as good as blindsquare 
 but free of charge.
  
 Erjon.
 
> On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 11:59:56 PM UTC+2, Thom3of5 wrote:
> Hi Erjon,
> 
> I can look in to it. I looked on the site to get an idea of how this 
> works, and couldn’t find a manual or anything. How does the phone know 
> there is a traffic light?
> 
> Does it let us know if our parallel  traffic  has a green light?
> 
> Does the app work with the phone in a pocket, or on a hip beltclip?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, and hope to help you with ideas,
> 
> Thom Spittle
> 
> thom...@gmail.com
> 
> 803-331-3344
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ]From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Erjon B. Hatillari
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:25 AM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Re: New app for finding traffic lights
> 
>  
> 
> Hey Thom,
> 
>  
> 
> I already sent an email to Columbia Department of Transportation but i 
> haven't heard back from them. I'm going to call them on Monday but in the 
> meanwhile, if you know anyone that works there you can tell them about my 
> app.
> 
>  
> 
> Erjon.
> 
> On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 7:05:15 PM UTC+2, Thom3of5 wrote:
> 
> I agree with Steve. If you include Columbia, South Carolina, we will be 
> able to give you some useful information.
> 
> Thom
> 
> thom...@gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Steve Cook
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:48 PM
> To: vip...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New app for finding traffic lights
> 
>  
> 
> How about adding Columbia SC?
> 
>  
> 
> Steve Cook, CPM
> 
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> 
> SC Commission for the Blind
> 
> 1430 Confederate Avenue
> 
> Columbia, SC 29201
> 
> E-Mail: stc...@sccb.sc.gov
> 
> Phone: (803) 898-8788
> 
> Fax: (803) 898-8882
> 

Re: Problem

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi. 
To anyone who is having this problem... I have reset all of my settings... 
general, reset, reset all settings... and seems to work. Only thing I can't do 
now is find out where to turn auto lock off! Lol. 
Thanks all for firming that I'm not losing it! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> Jennifer,
> 
> This message is blank.
> 
>> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you mean
>>> the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
>>> Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
>>> keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
>>> can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to find
>>> the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
 Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit field
 and
 whenever I press space the content disappears. I've rebooted my phone...
 took messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any
 suggesttions?
 
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Sometimes dictation does not announce what it has inserted

[Mary Otten]

I wonder if anyone has noticed this problem. I first noticed it in voice dream 
reader in the search box. I dictate the text of a title, and voiceover does not 
announce what it inserted, although it did insert something, which I can tell 
by looking in the edit box. It's very consistent about not announcing. I 
thought it was a Voice Dream quirk, until I experienced it in another app this 
morning. Also a search field. So I wonder if there something about search 
field. It works fine in mail. Just curious if anyone else has seen this.
Mary


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Re: New app for finding traffic lights

[Richard Turner]

If you are not in a city supported by the app, contact your department of 
transportation and ask them to get in touch with the developer and send him the 
traffic light data. The address they can use is 
supp...@citylightsapp.com

If you are in a city that supports it, it is a stand alone app. You have to 
have sounds vibrations turned on, then while the app is open, it will vibrate 
when you are approaching an intersection with a traffic light.
I believe all that is explained in the app store description of the app.
HTH,
Richard


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:49 AM, terrie arnold 
mailto:terrieiph...@gmail.com>> wrote:

OK is there a page to go to to let me know how this app works, I downloaded it 
and what that did was go to my GPS app tom-tom and gave me a street display of 
my area so hey if Kansas City Missouri is an added to your list of this thing 
working in can you please add probably St. Louis to our all of Missouri Great 
idea
So is this a standalone app or doesn't work with blind square as well so very 
curious can you get some more information on this cause really happy to hear 
this cause this is going to help a lot of people knowing where the street 
lights are on the street so thank you very much God bless you
Is there a webpage to go to to find more information on how this works like sit 
is at Sneed lights.com city lights.net or 
anything like that so thanks again

My thoughts for today

On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Erjon B. Hatillari 
mailto:erjon.hatill...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes it would be great if you could do that.

Erjon.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2, Demir Ajvazi wrote:
Hi, first of all, let me say this is one of the better apps that I've seen. 
Since I live in Serbia, I am not able to try it, but if you could include this 
Balcan countries, such as Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and so on, it would be great. 
Of course, I can even try to contact the department of traphic regulation about 
contacting you, and send you the needed data so you can make the application 
usable to us. Just tell me if you are willing to do it, and we can start:).
Wish you all the best
Demir Ajvazi
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 4:13:06 PM UTC+1, Erjon B. Hatillari wrote:
Hey Andy and Shubert,

Because i have too many requests  right now and i'm still working on improving 
the app and adding new cities, it would be great if you could talk to the 
department of transportation about this app so they can get in touch with me 
and send me their data. It will make my job much easier.

Thanks.

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:05:52 PM UTC+2, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
Hi, would it be possible to add Salem, Mass?  We have many individuals with 
visual impairments and tourist from all over the world.  It would be very 
valuable here.  Andy and Shubert

From: Erjon B. Hatillari
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:46 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: New app for finding traffic lights

Hey Thom,

Regarding your questions.
I have added the traffic light positions manually.
It doesn't let you know if the light is green or not but it is in my plans to 
do it.
Next week i'm going to update the app so it can give vibrations to an apple 
watch as well as play an audio message in case you use headsets.
I'm still working on navigation in order to make it as good as blindsquare but 
free of charge.

Erjon.

On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 11:59:56 PM UTC+2, Thom3of5 wrote:
Hi Erjon,
I can look in to it. I looked on the site to get an idea of how this works, and 
couldn’t find a manual or anything. How does the phone know there is a traffic 
light?
Does it let us know if our parallel  traffic  has a green light?
Does the app work with the phone in a pocket, or on a hip beltclip?

Thanks, and hope to help you with ideas,
Thom Spittle
thom...@gmail.com
803-331-3344


]From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Erjon B. Hatillari
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:25 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: New app for finding traffic lights

Hey Thom,

I already sent an email to Columbia Department of Transportation but i haven't 
heard back from them. I'm going to call them on Monday but in the meanwhile, if 
you know anyone that works there you can tell them about my app.

Erjon.

On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 7:05:15 PM UTC+2, Thom3of5 wrote:
I agree with Steve. If you include Columbia, South Carolina, we will be able to 
give you some useful information.
Thom
thom...@gmail.com

From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Cook
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:48 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New app for finding traffic lights

How about adding Columbia SC?

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate Avenue

Re: Problem

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Auto-Lock is on the Display & Brightness Settings page.

Best,
Anna



> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi. 
> To anyone who is having this problem... I have reset all of my settings... 
> general, reset, reset all settings... and seems to work. Only thing I can't 
> do now is find out where to turn auto lock off! Lol. 
> Thanks all for firming that I'm not losing it! 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Kimber Gardner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Jennifer,
>> 
>> This message is blank.
>> 
>>> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 
 When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you mean
 the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
 Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
 keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
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ios10.2 is out now

[Davy Cuppens]

The subject says it all.

I know from problems with focus brail devices with the latest betas so far that 
even focus is advising not yet to update your ios device.

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question on texting.

[Mr. Ed]

Hi all,

I have a sighted friend and when he write a text he says there are choices
for workds that come up when he starts typing. For example he says when he
types the letters s e n then he gets three word choices he can choose from
right under those three letters he typed. So since I use VO is there any way
to use those typing suggestions for those words for those three letters? I
think the three choices he had were send, sending and sent.

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Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Mary Otten]

Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver 
and Focus Braille Display Users
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Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple has 
made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs present in 
iOS 10. However, despite this progress, our testing also suggests that a number 
of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this release—one of which we 
believe to be potentially critical for those who use the Focus line of braille 
displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your device to iOS 10.2, we 
strongly recommend that you read this post and any comments below before doing 
so.

As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all 
devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first version of 
iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users and use 
cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or improvements 
that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in mind, we would 
greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the information on this page is 
as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any accessibility-related 
changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the comments.

Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2

Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may experience 
issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The information we 
have available to us suggests that this issue primarily affects users who 
attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously been un-paired from the 
same iOS device, although in our testing it was also impossible to pair a Focus 
display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It is our understanding that 
Focus displays paired before updating to iOS 10.2 should continue to work 
correctly. This issue was apparently discovered very late in the beta cycle, 
and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the works and will be released in the 
near future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do not upgrade to iOS 10.2 
if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case which may require you to 
un-pair and re-pair the display, or if you may need to pair a Focus display for 
the first time before Apple releases a fix. At the time of posting, we believe 
that the Focus line of displays are the only displays affected by this issue; 
in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 Blue, the models we were able to 
test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille Edge, Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, 
VarioUltra, and Brailliant.
When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no longer 
automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the 
message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our 
understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect to 
see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release.
The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 'Actions' rotor item 
when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions available.
In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents of previous 
notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue does not occur 
consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken once speech is stopped 
or focus is moved to another element.
Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2

It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text field on a 
web page.
Enhanced Quality voices no longer occasionally revert to their compact variants.
The Enhanced Quality Siri voices are once again available for use with 
VoiceOver in all use cases.
It is now possible to manage shared access in the Home app using VoiceOver.
VoiceOver now correctly announces the status of the Love and Dislike buttons in 
the Music app.
VoiceOver now correctly provides feedback on the current selection status when 
editing the list of mailboxes / folders in the Mail app.
There is no longer a duplicated heading at the top of the 'For You' tab of the 
native News app.
VoiceOver now behaves as expected when using 3D Touch and the scrub gesture 
inside Home Screen folders.
VoiceOver rotor actions now work as expected in the 'Up Next' section of the 
Music app.
VoiceOver now behaves as expected in the Weather app when you have multiple 
locations set.
When new widgets are available while browsing the list of all widgets, 
VoiceOver correctly reads their names.
It is once again possible to rearrange the order of favorites in the Phone app 
when VoiceOver is enabled.
New Features and Changes

In regard to general changes and new features, here are some that you may wish 
to explore in iOS 10.2:

The new TV app introduced by Apple in its most recent keynote is coming to iOS 
with iOS 10.2. This new app is in

Re: Sometimes dictation does not announce what it has inserted

[Mário Gabriel]

Yes, It  as you say.
Apple sucks a lot on fixes to VO.
The most Important and serious VO bugs, apple never solves them.
Today came out at 10.2 release  and the list of 12 bugs fixed is a shame.
And now with 4 more new bugs.

Cheers.


Às 18:46 de 12/12/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:

I wonder if anyone has noticed this problem. I first noticed it in voice dream 
reader in the search box. I dictate the text of a title, and voiceover does not 
announce what it inserted, although it did insert something, which I can tell 
by looking in the edit box. It's very consistent about not announcing. I 
thought it was a Voice Dream quirk, until I experienced it in another app this 
morning. Also a search field. So I wonder if there something about search 
field. It works fine in mail. Just curious if anyone else has seen this.
Mary


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Re: Sometimes dictation does not announce what it has inserted

[Harry Bell]

I've just updated to ios 10.2 and I just had this same problem randomly when 
starting to type the name of a second recipient in the To line of an email in 
the Mail app. Harry

> On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:20, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, It  as you say.
> Apple sucks a lot on fixes to VO.
> The most Important and serious VO bugs, apple never solves them.
> Today came out at 10.2 release  and the list of 12 bugs fixed is a shame.
> And now with 4 more new bugs.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
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> Às 18:46 de 12/12/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
>> I wonder if anyone has noticed this problem. I first noticed it in voice 
>> dream reader in the search box. I dictate the text of a title, and voiceover 
>> does not announce what it inserted, although it did insert something, which 
>> I can tell by looking in the edit box. It's very consistent about not 
>> announcing. I thought it was a Voice Dream quirk, until I experienced it in 
>> another app this morning. Also a search field. So I wonder if there 
>> something about search field. It works fine in mail. Just curious if anyone 
>> else has seen this.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Brent Harding]

One annoying bug I hope does get fixed is that when streaming from Tunein, if a 
notification comes in, it incessantly speaks over and over, even if you try to 
unlock the phone and get it off the screen. Shutting vo off and putting it back 
on does work, but it takes several seconds after tripple clicking home to make 
the madness stop.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org 
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:12 PM
  Subject: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for 
VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users


  Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver 
and Focus Braille Display Users

  AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /  
AppleVis


  Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

  For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple has 
made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs present in 
iOS 10. However, despite this progress, our testing also suggests that a number 
of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this release—one of which we 
believe to be potentially critical for those who use the Focus line of braille 
displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your device to iOS 10.2, we 
strongly recommend that you read this post and any comments below before doing 
so.

  As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all 
devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first version of 
iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users and use 
cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or improvements 
that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in mind, we would 
greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the information on this page is 
as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any accessibility-related 
changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the comments.

  Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2
a.. Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may 
experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The 
information we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily affects 
users who attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously been 
un-paired from the same iOS device, although in our testing it was also 
impossible to pair a Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It 
is our understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS 10.2 
should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently discovered very 
late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the works and 
will be released in the near future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do 
not upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case 
which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or if you may need to 
pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple releases a fix. At the 
time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of displays are the only 
displays affected by this issue; in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 
Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille Edge, 
Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra, and Brailliant. 
b.. When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no longer 
automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the 
message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our 
understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect to 
see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release. 
c.. The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 'Actions' 
rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions 
available. 
d.. In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents of 
previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue does 
not occur consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken once speech 
is stopped or focus is moved to another element. 
  Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2
a.. It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text field 
on a web page. 
b.. Enhanced Quality voices no longer occasionally revert to their compact 
variants. 
c.. The Enhanced Quality Siri voices are once again available for use with 
VoiceOver in all use cases. 
d.. It is now possible to manage shared access in the Home app using 
VoiceOver. 
e.. VoiceOver now correctly announces the status of the Love and Dislike 
buttons in the Music app. 
f.. VoiceOver now correctly provides feedback on the current selection 
status when editing the list of mailboxes / folders in the Mail app. 
g.. There is no longer a duplicated heading at the top of the 'For You' tab 
of the native News app. 
h.. Voic

problem with Bluetooth, I don't know if it is an IOS problem

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Hi all,

I have an iPhone 7, and a Bluetooth Plantronics legend headset. For some
reason that I don't know, my iPhone lose the connection with my headset
being inside the range. I remove that device from my iPhone, and a few
second later, my Bluetooth headset said, iPhone connected. I  went back to
the Bluetooth settings, and my headset was back there. Well, I removed it
again, and finally my Bluetooth headset keep disconnected. However I
reestablished the connection paring my headset, but again my headset gets
disconnected some times. My Bluetooth headset has the firmware updated also.

 

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Re: Problem

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks Anna!!! I think that's the only place I didn't look!! Lol. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Auto-Lock is on the Display & Brightness Settings page.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. 
>> To anyone who is having this problem... I have reset all of my settings... 
>> general, reset, reset all settings... and seems to work. Only thing I can't 
>> do now is find out where to turn auto lock off! Lol. 
>> Thanks all for firming that I'm not losing it! 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Kimber Gardner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jennifer,
>>> 
>>> This message is blank.
>>> 
 On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you mean
> the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues with
> Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the virtual
> keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating since I
> can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have to find
> the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit field
>> and
>> whenever I press space the content disappears. I've rebooted my phone...
>> took messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any
>> suggesttions?
>> 
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Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Wayne Merritt]

I've had this happen several times in 10.1.1, and I have fixed it by
going to the phone and then swiping away from the time elapsed
adjustable item to something else on the screen. This seems to stop
it. It is very annoying to constantly hear the time elapsed/1
notification announcement repeated.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Brent Harding  wrote:
> One annoying bug I hope does get fixed is that when streaming from Tunein,
> if a notification comes in, it incessantly speaks over and over, even if you
> try to unlock the phone and get it off the screen. Shutting vo off and
> putting it back on does work, but it takes several seconds after tripple
> clicking home to make the madness stop.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Mary Otten
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
>   Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:12 PM
>   Subject: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs
> for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users
>
>
>   Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for
> VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users
>
>   AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /
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>
>
>   Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.
>
>   For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple
> has made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs
> present in iOS 10. However, despite this progress, our testing also suggests
> that a number of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this release—one
> of which we believe to be potentially critical for those who use the Focus
> line of braille displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your device
> to iOS 10.2, we strongly recommend that you read this post and any comments
> below before doing so.
>
>   As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all
> devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first version
> of iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users and
> use cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or
> improvements that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in
> mind, we would greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the information
> on this page is as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any
> accessibility-related changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the
> comments.
>
>   Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2
> a.. Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may
> experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The
> information we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily
> affects users who attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously
> been un-paired from the same iOS device, although in our testing it was also
> impossible to pair a Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2.
> It is our understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS
> 10.2 should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently discovered
> very late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the
> works and will be released in the near future. In the meantime, we recommend
> that you do not upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and
> have a use case which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or
> if you may need to pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple
> releases a fix. At the time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of
> displays are the only displays affected by this issue; in addition to the
> Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS
> 10.2 include the Braille Edge, Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra,
> and Brailliant.
> b.. When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no longer
> automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the
> message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our
> understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect
> to see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release.
> c.. The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 'Actions'
> rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions
> available.
> d.. In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents of
> previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue
> does not occur consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken once
> speech is stopped or focus is moved to another element.
>   Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2
> a.. It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text
> field on a web page.
> b.. Enhanced Quality voices no longer occasionally revert to their
> compact variants.
> c.. The Enhanced Quality Siri voices are once again available for use
> with VoiceOver in all use cases.
> d.. It is now pos

Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Brent Harding]

I'll have to make sure it's not on there when I lock it, although mine seems 
to persist in speaking it even if I get the phone back to the home screen, 
not sure if it's specific to the NFL on Tunein Premium, but it's where I 
most often encounter it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users



I've had this happen several times in 10.1.1, and I have fixed it by
going to the phone and then swiping away from the time elapsed
adjustable item to something else on the screen. This seems to stop
it. It is very annoying to constantly hear the time elapsed/1
notification announcement repeated.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Brent Harding  wrote:

One annoying bug I hope does get fixed is that when streaming from Tunein,
if a notification comes in, it incessantly speaks over and over, even if 
you

try to unlock the phone and get it off the screen. Shutting vo off and
putting it back on does work, but it takes several seconds after tripple
clicking home to make the madness stop.

  - Original Message -
  From: Mary Otten
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:12 PM
  Subject: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users


  Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for
VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

  AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ... 
/

AppleVis


  Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

  For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple
has made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs
present in iOS 10. However, despite this progress, our testing also 
suggests
that a number of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this 
release—one

of which we believe to be potentially critical for those who use the Focus
line of braille displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your 
device
to iOS 10.2, we strongly recommend that you read this post and any 
comments

below before doing so.

  As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all
devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first 
version
of iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users 
and

use cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or
improvements that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in
mind, we would greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the 
information

on this page is as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any
accessibility-related changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the
comments.

  Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2
a.. Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may
experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The
information we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily
affects users who attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously
been un-paired from the same iOS device, although in our testing it was 
also
impossible to pair a Focus display for the first time when running iOS 
10.2.

It is our understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS
10.2 should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently 
discovered

very late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the
works and will be released in the near future. In the meantime, we 
recommend

that you do not upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and
have a use case which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, 
or

if you may need to pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple
releases a fix. At the time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of
displays are the only displays affected by this issue; in addition to the
Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS
10.2 include the Braille Edge, Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra,
and Brailliant.
b.. When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no 
longer

automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the
message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our
understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect
to see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release.
c.. The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 
'Actions'

rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions
available.
d.. In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents 
of

previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue
does not occur consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken 
once

speech is stopped or focus is moved to another 

Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Mário Gabriel]

Now what I want to know is if the battery issues have been resolved.

That's all that matters to me.

please give feedback.

cheers.

I just hope my battery has improved.



Às 19:12 de 12/12/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for 
VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users
AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products 
...  /  AppleVis


Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that 
Apple has made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility 
bugs present in iOS 10 . 
However, despite this progress, our testing also suggests that a 
number of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this release—one 
of which we believe to be potentially critical for those who use the 
Focus line of braille displays. Thus, if you have not already updated 
your device to iOS 10.2, we strongly recommend that you read this post 
and any comments below before doing so.


As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test 
all devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the 
first version of iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not 
common to all users and use cases, it is very likely that there are 
changes, regressions or improvements that we are not aware of at the 
time of posting. With this in mind, we would greatly appreciate your 
help in ensuring that the information on this page is as complete and 
accurate as possible. If you spot any accessibility-related changes in 
iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the comments.



  Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2

  * Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may
experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS
10.2. The information we have available to us suggests that this
issue primarily affects users who attempt to re-pair a Focus
display which has previously been un-paired from the same iOS
device, although in our testing it was also impossible to pair a
Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It is our
understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS
10.2 should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently
discovered very late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us
that a fix is in the works and will be released in the near
future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do not upgrade to
iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case
which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or if
you may need to pair a Focus display for the first time before
Apple releases a fix. At the time of posting, we believe that the
Focus line of displays are the only displays affected by this
issue; in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 Blue, the
models we were able to test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille
Edge, Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra, and Brailliant.
  * When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no
longer automatically placed in the body of the message. To find
the body of the message, the user must either swipe or explore by
touch. It is our understanding that this change is not by design,
and that we should expect to see this revert back to the previous
behavior in a future iOS release.
  * The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the
'Actions' rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element
which has actions available.
  * In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents
of previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually.
This issue does not occur consistently, and the notifications are
no longer spoken once speech is stopped or focus is moved to
another element.


  Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2

  * It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text
field on a web page.
  * Enhanced Quality voices no longer occasionally revert to their
compact variants.
  * The Enhanced Quality Siri voices are once again available for use
with VoiceOver in all use cases.
  * It is now possible to manage shared access in the Home app using
VoiceOver.
  * VoiceOver now correctly announces the status of the Love and
Dislike buttons in the Music app.
  * VoiceOver now correctly provides feedback on the current selection
status when editing the list of mailboxes / folders in the Mail app.
  * There is no longer a duplicated heading at the top of the 'For
You' tab of the native News app.
  * VoiceOver now behaves as expected when using 3D Touch and the
scrub gesture inside Home Screen folders.
  * VoiceOver rotor actions now work as expected in the 'Up Next'
section of the Music app.
  * VoiceOver now behaves as expected in the Weather app when you have
multiple locations

Alarm clock sound and iOS 10.1.1

[Shai]

Hello,
I am using VoiceOver with iOS 10.1.1 on an iPhone6s and I notice that
after setting an alarm using Siri or setting it manually via the Clock
app, and locking the screen, the alarm will sound and vibrate normally
but then the sound will become softer and remain in this state until
the alarm is disabled.
Has anyone else noticed this and has this been resolved in the new iOS
released today?
Thank you in advance for any responses

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Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi 

No they have not.

Regards 
Davy 

From: Mário Gabriel 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users






Now what I want to know is if the battery issues have been resolved.

That's all that matters to me.

please give feedback.

cheers.


I just hope my battery has improved.





Às 19:12 de 12/12/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:

  Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver 
and Focus Braille Display Users

  AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /  
AppleVis


  Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

  For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple has 
made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs present in 
iOS 10. However, despite this progress, our testing also suggests that a number 
of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this release—one of which we 
believe to be potentially critical for those who use the Focus line of braille 
displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your device to iOS 10.2, we 
strongly recommend that you read this post and any comments below before doing 
so.

  As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all 
devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first version of 
iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users and use 
cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or improvements 
that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in mind, we would 
greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the information on this page is 
as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any accessibility-related 
changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the comments.

  Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2
a.. Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may 
experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The 
information we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily affects 
users who attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously been 
un-paired from the same iOS device, although in our testing it was also 
impossible to pair a Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It 
is our understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS 10.2 
should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently discovered very 
late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the works and 
will be released in the near future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do 
not upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case 
which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or if you may need to 
pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple releases a fix. At the 
time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of displays are the only 
displays affected by this issue; in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 
Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille Edge, 
Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra, and Brailliant. 
b.. When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no longer 
automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the 
message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our 
understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect to 
see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release. 
c.. The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 'Actions' 
rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions 
available. 
d.. In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents of 
previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue does 
not occur consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken once speech 
is stopped or focus is moved to another element. 
  Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2
a.. It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text field 
on a web page. 
b.. Enhanced Quality voices no longer occasionally revert to their compact 
variants. 
c.. The Enhanced Quality Siri voices are once again available for use with 
VoiceOver in all use cases. 
d.. It is now possible to manage shared access in the Home app using 
VoiceOver. 
e.. VoiceOver now correctly announces the status of the Love and Dislike 
buttons in the Music app. 
f.. VoiceOver now correctly provides feedback on the current selection 
status when editing the list of mailboxes / folders in the Mail app. 
g.. There is no longer a duplicated heading at the top of the 'For You' tab 
of the native News app. 
h.. VoiceOver now behaves as expected when using 3D Touch and the scrub 
gesture inside Home Screen folders. 
i.. VoiceOver rotor ac

Re: question on texting.

[Wayne Merritt]

Yes, you can. If you have predictive text turned on in the
General/Keyboard section of Settings, you can see some suggestions as
you type. For VoiceOver users these are above the keyboard, but
perhaps they appear visually below the keyboard for "sighties," not
sure on that. This is a feature that I use regularly over the
autocorrect, which quickly gets annoying. Besides, predictive words
don't make any sound, so I can choose whether to use or not use them.
Verses autocorrect, which makes the annoying popping sound each time I
write a few letters. Anyway, hope that helps.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a sighted friend and when he write a text he says there are choices
> for workds that come up when he starts typing. For example he says when he
> types the letters s e n then he gets three word choices he can choose from
> right under those three letters he typed. So since I use VO is there any
> way
> to use those typing suggestions for those words for those three letters? I
> think the three choices he had were send, sending and sent.
>
> Mr. Ed
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Re: Pro Recorder

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello there to all of you who gave me suggestions about recorders.


Right now, I am trying Rev Recorder. So far, I like it just fine. I had 
to play around with it a bit to figure it out. But it was actually easy 
for me to figure out. This is always nice.


Thank you all very much! I do appreciate the suggestions.


Terri


On 12/9/2016 11:21 AM, Rich De Steno wrote:
> When I downloaded it quite a while ago, Rev Recorder was free, 
> accessible, and very good with automatic saving of the recording to 
> your Dropbox if you desire.
>
> Rich De Steno
>
> On 12/9/2016 12:15 PM, Terri Stimmel wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> I once asked about recording Apps for my Iphone.. I got some great
>> information.
>>
>>
>> However, I never looked in to anything, because I decided I didn't want
>> to make long, or possibly long recordings on my phone, do to lack of 
>> space.
>>
>>
>> I was wondering, is Pro Recorder free?
>>
>> I thought this was one App that was mentioned. I could be wrong though.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I need something that works well, is very easy to use, and if
>> possible, free. I worry about paying for stuff, because I never know how
>> it will really work for me. But also, sometimes I just can't afford 
>> things.
>>
>> Also, I need this App to work with my Ipad Mini, 4th Generation. Also,
>> the longer the file can be, the better. But if I understand correctly,
>> that depends on how much space you have available?
>>
>> One last thing, would you all think the event I want to record, would
>> come out better on my Ipad? I know it sounds better, but I know nothing
>> about it's quality when recording something.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for any help possible.
>>
>>
>> Terri
>>
>

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Wondering about the K480 bluetooth Keyboard

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have a couple of questions about this bluetooth keyboard. I am hoping 
I put the information in the subject line, properly?


I just got this bluetooth keyboard from a friend of mine, this weekend. 
I like how the keyboard slides out, like it used to do with much older 
phones I had at one time.

I also like how it fits on to my phone, but that I can still access 
everything easily. Although, I think if I ever need to remove this case, 
I may need some serious help! Looks complicated,.


Anyway, can anyone tell me about how long it might take to charge?

My friend hasn't used the keyboard in a while, because she has a newer 
phone. She thinks it needs to be charged, because it wouldn't connect 
yesterday, when we tried to get it to work with my phone,.

Can I use the block for my Ipad Mini, to charge the keyboard?

Or do I just need to use a regular block, like you would use with the 
Iphone? I wouldn't think it would really matter. But I also thought that 
it was best to find out, one way or the other.


Also, is it possible to get a layout of the keyboard somewhere?

This would really come in handy for me. I am sure I will have commands 
to learn as well, which should be interesting!

I've never really figured out bluetooth keyboard commands. But I would 
like to do so.


Any advice, or suggestions you all might have for me, will be very 
appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Don Breda]

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?



This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
down yet so not getting my hopes up.



Don


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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?
When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group 
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?



This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.



Don


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RE: Problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I haven't updated to 10.2 yet, but have noticed this from time to time. I was, 
however, usually able to bring the keyboard back by touble tapping in the edit 
field.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem

Rajmund, I must be rapidly touching something outside of the edit field then 
because as soon as I hit space or after I have typed a few letters, the 
keyboard immediately disappears. I go to type another letter, and find that the 
keyboard has been replaced by the web page.
Several times I have had to get my sighted wife to turn VoiceOver off and fill 
out the form for me. I don't think this happened with the initial release of 
iOS 10. I'm using iOS 10.1.1 on an iPhone 7.

Wayne

On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> When writing in the edit field and the content disappears, do you 
>> mean the content you wrote or the keyboard? I have had several issues 
>> with Safari where I am writing something in an edit field and the 
>> virtual keyboard will suddenly disappear. It is terribly frustrating 
>> since I can only write a few letters or words at a time and then have 
>> to find the edit field and get the keyboard back to write more.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 12/12/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> Hi all. I'm trying to write in a message field... and another edit 
>>> field and whenever I press space the content disappears. I've 
>>> rebooted my phone...
>>> took messages out of the app switcher... still not working. Any 
>>> suggesttions?
>>>
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Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Mário Gabriel]

Thank you

Oh my God.
This is going to be a bomb for the millions of people who expected this 
issue to be fixed.

And I am one of them.
Apple, I hate you.
Apple sucks


Às 20:25 de 12/12/2016, Davy Cuppens escreveu:

Hi
No they have not.
Regards
Davy
*From:* Mário Gabriel 
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 8:57 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some 
New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users



Now what I want to know is if the battery issues have been resolved.

That's all that matters to me.

please give feedback.

cheers.

I just hope my battery has improved.


Às 19:12 de 12/12/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for 
VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users
AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products 
...  /  AppleVis


Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that 
Apple has made continued progress towards addressing the 
accessibility bugs present in iOS 10 
. However, despite this 
progress, our testing also suggests that a number of accessibility 
bugs have been introduced in this release—one of which we believe to 
be potentially critical for those who use the Focus line of braille 
displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your device to iOS 
10.2, we strongly recommend that you read this post and any comments 
below before doing so.


As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test 
all devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the 
first version of iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not 
common to all users and use cases, it is very likely that there are 
changes, regressions or improvements that we are not aware of at the 
time of posting. With this in mind, we would greatly appreciate your 
help in ensuring that the information on this page is as complete and 
accurate as possible. If you spot any accessibility-related changes 
in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the comments.



  Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2

  * Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays
may experience issues pairing their display with devices running
iOS 10.2. The information we have available to us suggests that
this issue primarily affects users who attempt to re-pair a Focus
display which has previously been un-paired from the same iOS
device, although in our testing it was also impossible to pair a
Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It is our
understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS
10.2 should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently
discovered very late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us
that a fix is in the works and will be released in the near
future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do not upgrade to
iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case
which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or if
you may need to pair a Focus display for the first time before
Apple releases a fix. At the time of posting, we believe that the
Focus line of displays are the only displays affected by this
issue; in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 Blue, the
models we were able to test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille
Edge, Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra, and Brailliant.
  * When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no
longer automatically placed in the body of the message. To find
the body of the message, the user must either swipe or explore by
touch. It is our understanding that this change is not by design,
and that we should expect to see this revert back to the previous
behavior in a future iOS release.
  * The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the
'Actions' rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element
which has actions available.
  * In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents
of previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually.
This issue does not occur consistently, and the notifications are
no longer spoken once speech is stopped or focus is moved to
another element.


  Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2

  * It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text
field on a web page.
  * Enhanced Quality voices no longer occasionally revert to their
compact variants.
  * The Enhanced Quality Siri voices are once again available for use
with VoiceOver in all use cases.
  * It is now possible to manage shared access in the Home app using
VoiceOver.
  * VoiceOver now correctly announces the status of the Love and
Dislike buttons in the Music app.
  * Voic

Re: Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of help!

[billy inglis]

hi Chris, all setup now with my apple tv.
Can you explain how i set up an external bluetooth keyboard to use with 
the apple tv?, Billy


On 02/11/2016 19:12, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi

Slight correction, press the menu button three times to enable VoiceOver for first 
time set up. You can also set it this way as an accessibility shortcut in 
settings>general>accessibility.



On 2 Nov 2016, at 14:42, Daniel L. Gervais  
wrote:

Hi Terri,

I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same one 
and I love it.

As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, you 
have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the top right going down, you 
have the Home button and below that is the Volume Up and Down rocker.

To enable VoiceOver, simply press the Play/Pause button three times and after a 
few tries, VoiceOver should begin speaking.

When inputting text, the keyboard is layed out a little diffrently with the 
first row being the letters A to Z and the next row below being the numbers and 
punctuation symbols.  Below that row is buttons to toggle between lowercase and 
uppercase letters, but if you press the Play/Pause button, this will do the 
same.

You can also use Siri to dictate anything in an edit field, this also includes 
passwords.  Simply press and hold the Siri button and dictate.  When you're 
done, let go of the button and your text will be inputted.

While on the Home screen, you can even ask Siri, by pressing and holding while 
you talk and letting go when your done.

You can always check on www.applevis.com for How To's on using the Apple TV.  I 
believe that David Woodbridge has quite a few podcasts on doing just about 
anything on the Apple TV.

Hope this helps!


From:   Terri Stimmel 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/11/02 10:12 AM
Subject:Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of help!

Hello everyone,


Well, I broke down and purchased my new Apple tv last night. I got the
32 gig model. I didn't mess with it last night though, because I just
wasn't feeling the best.


It's all open, and all hooked up now. It is a little chunkier, and
bigger. But I think I like that. I do like the remote much better,
because it too seems thicker, and maybe not as easy to lose. I lost one
once. LOL!


Now here is where I need some help please.

When I go to the input where the Apple tv is, nothing seems to happen.
On my older model, it asked about Voiceover.


So first of all, can someone kindly explain the layout of the buttons to
me, and what they are?

This would really be very helpful. I found the area for the gestures.


Now how can I get voiceover on?

Will I need sighted assistence for this?

I pushed a couple of buttons just to see what would happen. I don't know
if anything happened on the screen. But I heard some cute little noises.
LOL!

I decided to quit messing with it though, because I didn't want to mess
anything up.


Any help would be very much appreciated. Now I am kind of getting
excited about this thing. Although, I'm not really looking forward to
adding on all the apps I may want, or remembering passwords.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: New app for finding traffic lights

[Erjon B. Hatillari]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks Richard.

Erjon.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 8:54:37 PM UTC+2, Richard Turner wrote:
>
> If you are not in a city supported by the app, contact your department of 
> transportation and ask them to get in touch with the developer and send him 
> the traffic light data. The address they can use is 
> sup...@citylightsapp.com 
>
> If you are in a city that supports it, it is a stand alone app. You have 
> to have sounds vibrations turned on, then while the app is open, it will 
> vibrate when you are approaching an intersection with a traffic light.
> I believe all that is explained in the app store description of the app.
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:49 AM, terrie arnold  > wrote:
>
> OK is there a page to go to to let me know how this app works, I 
> downloaded it and what that did was go to my GPS app tom-tom and gave me a 
> street display of my area so hey if Kansas City Missouri is an added to 
> your list of this thing working in can you please add probably St. Louis to 
> our all of Missouri Great idea
> So is this a standalone app or doesn't work with blind square as well so 
> very curious can you get some more information on this cause really happy 
> to hear this cause this is going to help a lot of people knowing where the 
> street lights are on the street so thank you very much God bless you
> Is there a webpage to go to to find more information on how this works 
> like sit is at Sneed lights.com city lights.net or anything like that so 
> thanks again
>
> My thoughts for today
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Erjon B. Hatillari  > wrote:
>
> Yes it would be great if you could do that. 
>
> Erjon.
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2, Demir Ajvazi wrote: 
>>
>> Hi, first of all, let me say this is one of the better apps that I've 
>> seen. Since I live in Serbia, I am not able to try it, but if you could 
>> include this Balcan countries, such as Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and so on, 
>> it would be great. Of course, I can even try to contact the department of 
>> traphic regulation about contacting you, and send you the needed data so 
>> you can make the application usable to us. Just tell me if you are willing 
>> to do it, and we can start:). 
>> Wish you all the best
>> Demir Ajvazi
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 4:13:06 PM UTC+1, Erjon B. Hatillari 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Andy and Shubert, 
>>>
>>> Because i have too many requests  right now and i'm still working on 
>>> improving the app and adding new cities, it would be great if you could 
>>> talk to the department of transportation about this app so they can get in 
>>> touch with me and send me their data. It will make my job much easier.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:05:52 PM UTC+2, Andrew J. LaPointe 
>>> wrote: 

 *Hi, would it be possible to add Salem, Mass?  We have many 
 individuals with visual impairments and tourist from all over the world.  
 It would be very valuable here.  Andy and Shubert*
  
 *From:* Erjon B. Hatillari 
 *Sent:* Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:46 AM
 *To:* VIPhone 
 *Subject:* Re: New app for finding traffic lights
  
 Hey Thom, 
  
 Regarding your questions. 
 I have added the traffic light positions manually. 
 It doesn't let you know if the light is green or not but it is in my 
 plans to do it.
 Next week i'm going to update the app so it can give vibrations to an 
 apple watch as well as play an audio message in case you use headsets.
 I'm still working on navigation in order to make it as good as 
 blindsquare but free of charge.
  
 Erjon.

 On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 11:59:56 PM UTC+2, Thom3of5 wrote: 
>
> Hi Erjon,
>
> I can look in to it. I looked on the site to get an idea of how this 
> works, and couldn’t find a manual or anything. How does the phone know 
> there is a traffic light?
>
> Does it let us know if our parallel  traffic  has a green light?
>
> Does the app work with the phone in a pocket, or on a hip beltclip?
>
>  
>
> Thanks, and hope to help you with ideas,
>
> Thom Spittle
>
> thom...@gmail.com
>
> 803-331-3344
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ]*From:* vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Erjon B. Hatillari
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:25 AM
> *To:* VIPhone
> *Subject:* Re: New app for finding traffic lights
>
>  
>
> Hey Thom,
>
>  
>
> I already sent an email to Columbia Department of Transportation but i 
> haven't heard back from them. I'm going to call them on Monday but in the 
> meanwhile, if you know anyone that works there you can tell them about my

RE: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think everybody has battery issues, it's one of the many things some 
people seem to experience and others don't.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

Hi

No they have not.

Regards
Davy

From: Mário Gabriel
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users






Now what I want to know is if the battery issues have been resolved.

That's all that matters to me.

please give feedback.

cheers.

I just hope my battery has improved.



Às 19:12 de 12/12/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver 
and Focus Braille Display Users
AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /  
AppleVis



Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple has 
made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs present in 
iOS 10. However, despite this 
progress, our testing also suggests that a number of accessibility bugs have 
been introduced in this release—one of which we believe to be potentially 
critical for those who use the Focus line of braille displays. Thus, if you 
have not already updated your device to iOS 10.2, we strongly recommend that 
you read this post and any comments below before doing so.

As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all 
devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first version of 
iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users and use 
cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or improvements 
that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in mind, we would 
greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the information on this page is 
as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any accessibility-related 
changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the comments.

Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2

  *   Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may 
experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The 
information we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily affects 
users who attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously been 
un-paired from the same iOS device, although in our testing it was also 
impossible to pair a Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It 
is our understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS 10.2 
should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently discovered very 
late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the works and 
will be released in the near future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do 
not upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case 
which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or if you may need to 
pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple releases a fix. At the 
time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of displays are the only 
displays affected by this issue; in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 
Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille Edge, 
Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra, and Brailliant.
  *   When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no longer 
automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the 
message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our 
understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect to 
see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release.
  *   The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 'Actions' 
rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions available.
  *   In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents of 
previous notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue does 
not occur consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken once speech 
is stopped or focus is moved to another element.

Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2

  *   It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text field 
on a web page.
  *   Enhanced Quality voices no longer occasionally revert to their compact 
variants.
  *   The Enhanced Quality Siri voices are once again available for use with 
VoiceOver in all use cases.
  *   It is now possible to manage shared access in the Home app using 
VoiceOver.
  *   VoiceOver now correctly announc

Dice world and Game center?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
I had to restore my settings... not my phone but my settings... and now I'm 
getting the game center popping up to sign in every time I open Dice World. I 
don't use the game center so can I get rid of this pop up once and for all? 
How? 
Thanks. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Mary Otten]

For once, this is an issue I don't have. Knock on wood. I seem to have a lot of 
the other ones, but not this battery one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I don't think everybody has battery issues, it's one of the many things some 
> people seem to experience and others don't.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
> for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users
>  
> Hi
>  
> No they have not.
>  
> Regards
> Davy
>  
> From: Mário Gabriel
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
> for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users
>  
>
> 
>  
> 
> Now what I want to know is if the battery issues have been resolved.
> 
> That's all that matters to me.
> 
> please give feedback.
> 
> cheers.
> 
> I just hope my battery has improved.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> Às 19:12 de 12/12/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
> Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver 
> and Focus Braille Display Users
> AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /  
> AppleVis
> 
> 
> Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.
> 
> For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple has 
> made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs present in 
> iOS 10. However, despite this progress, our testing also suggests that a 
> number of accessibility bugs have been introduced in this release—one of 
> which we believe to be potentially critical for those who use the Focus line 
> of braille displays. Thus, if you have not already updated your device to iOS 
> 10.2, we strongly recommend that you read this post and any comments below 
> before doing so.
> 
> As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all 
> devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first version 
> of iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users and 
> use cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or 
> improvements that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in 
> mind, we would greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the information 
> on this page is as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any 
> accessibility-related changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the 
> comments.
> 
> Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2
> 
> Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may experience 
> issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The information 
> we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily affects users who 
> attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously been un-paired from 
> the same iOS device, although in our testing it was also impossible to pair a 
> Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It is our 
> understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS 10.2 should 
> continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently discovered very late in 
> the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the works and will 
> be released in the near future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do not 
> upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case 
> which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or if you may need 
> to pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple releases a fix. At 
> the time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of displays are the only 
> displays affected by this issue; in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 
> 40 Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille 
> Edge, Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra, and Brailliant.
> When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no longer 
> automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the 
> message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our 
> understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect to 
> see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release.
> The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 'Actions' rotor 
> item when VoiceOver focus lands on an element which has actions available.
> In certain situations, VoiceOver will randomly speak the contents of previous 
> notifications which do not appear onscreen visually. This issue does not 
> occur consistently, and the notifications are no longer spoken once speech is 
> stopped or focus is moved to another element.
> Accessibility Bugs Fixed in iOS 10.2
> 
> It is once again possible to navigate by character when in a text field on a 
> web page.
> Enhanced Qua

Re: Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of help!

[Kliphton Miller]

go to settings, blu tooth and other devices, push the pairing button and then 
click the track pad on the siri remote, then it will pair, or maybe give you a 
4 digit pin to type in, either way, it will work.
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 4:06 PM, billy inglis  wrote:
> 
> hi Chris, all setup now with my apple tv.
> Can you explain how i set up an external bluetooth keyboard to use with the 
> apple tv?, Billy
> 
> On 02/11/2016 19:12, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Slight correction, press the menu button three times to enable VoiceOver for 
>> first time set up. You can also set it this way as an accessibility shortcut 
>> in settings>general>accessibility.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 14:42, Daniel L. Gervais 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Terri,
>>> 
>>> I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same 
>>> one and I love it.
>>> 
>>> As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, 
>>> you have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the top right going 
>>> down, you have the Home button and below that is the Volume Up and Down 
>>> rocker.
>>> 
>>> To enable VoiceOver, simply press the Play/Pause button three times and 
>>> after a few tries, VoiceOver should begin speaking.
>>> 
>>> When inputting text, the keyboard is layed out a little diffrently with the 
>>> first row being the letters A to Z and the next row below being the numbers 
>>> and punctuation symbols.  Below that row is buttons to toggle between 
>>> lowercase and uppercase letters, but if you press the Play/Pause button, 
>>> this will do the same.
>>> 
>>> You can also use Siri to dictate anything in an edit field, this also 
>>> includes passwords.  Simply press and hold the Siri button and dictate.  
>>> When you're done, let go of the button and your text will be inputted.
>>> 
>>> While on the Home screen, you can even ask Siri, by pressing and holding 
>>> while you talk and letting go when your done.
>>> 
>>> You can always check on www.applevis.com for How To's on using the Apple 
>>> TV.  I believe that David Woodbridge has quite a few podcasts on doing just 
>>> about anything on the Apple TV.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From:   Terri Stimmel 
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>>> Date:   2016/11/02 10:12 AM
>>> Subject:Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of help!
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, I broke down and purchased my new Apple tv last night. I got the
>>> 32 gig model. I didn't mess with it last night though, because I just
>>> wasn't feeling the best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's all open, and all hooked up now. It is a little chunkier, and
>>> bigger. But I think I like that. I do like the remote much better,
>>> because it too seems thicker, and maybe not as easy to lose. I lost one
>>> once. LOL!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now here is where I need some help please.
>>> 
>>> When I go to the input where the Apple tv is, nothing seems to happen.
>>> On my older model, it asked about Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So first of all, can someone kindly explain the layout of the buttons to
>>> me, and what they are?
>>> 
>>> This would really be very helpful. I found the area for the gestures.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now how can I get voiceover on?
>>> 
>>> Will I need sighted assistence for this?
>>> 
>>> I pushed a couple of buttons just to see what would happen. I don't know
>>> if anything happened on the screen. But I heard some cute little noises.
>>> LOL!
>>> 
>>> I decided to quit messing with it though, because I didn't want to mess
>>> anything up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any help would be very much appreciated. Now I am kind of getting
>>> excited about this thing. Although, I'm not really looking forward to
>>> adding on all the apps I may want, or remembering passwords.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> 
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iOS 10.2 and mail app change warned about during beta?

[Alan Lemly]

Mary,

You warned us about taking care before upgrading to iOS 10.2 due to a proposed 
change to the mail app during beta. Can you share with us now what that change 
was and if it was implemented? 

Thanks. 

Alan Lemly 


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Re: iOS 10.2 and mail app change warned about during beta?

[Scott Berry]

I have a question what mail change?  I didn’t see a problem with mail.  It 
didn’t effect me at all.


> On Dec 12, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> You warned us about taking care before upgrading to iOS 10.2 due to a 
> proposed change to the mail app during beta. Can you share with us now what 
> that change was and if it was implemented? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> 
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RE: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

[Chip Orange]

No, neither do I (in fact, I am not sure what the issue is, which is being 
discussed!), but I have seen people discuss excessive battery drain during 
almost every release of IOS and every model of phone (at some time or other).

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

 

For once, this is an issue I don't have. Knock on wood. I seem to have a lot of 
the other ones, but not this battery one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I don't think everybody has battery issues, it's one of the many things some 
people seem to experience and others don't.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

 

Hi 

 

No they have not.

 

Regards 

Davy 

 

From: Mário Gabriel   

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:57 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs 
for VoiceOver and Focus Braille Display Users

 



 

Now what I want to know is if the battery issues have been resolved.

That's all that matters to me.

please give feedback.

cheers.

I just hope my battery has improved.

 

 

Às 19:12 de 12/12/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:

Apple Releases iOS 10.2; Bringing Fixes, But Also Some New Bugs for VoiceOver 
and Focus Braille Display Users

AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /  
AppleVis






Apple has today released iOS 10.2 to the public.

For blind and low vision users, our limited testing suggests that Apple has 
made continued progress towards addressing the accessibility bugs present in 
iOS 10  . However, despite this 
progress, our testing also suggests that a number of accessibility bugs have 
been introduced in this release—one of which we believe to be potentially 
critical for those who use the Focus line of braille displays. Thus, if you 
have not already updated your device to iOS 10.2, we strongly recommend that 
you read this post and any comments below before doing so.

As we always stress in these posts, it is impossible for us to test all 
devices, apps, and use cases. With this and the fact that the first version of 
iOS 10 introduced a number of bugs which were not common to all users and use 
cases, it is very likely that there are changes, regressions or improvements 
that we are not aware of at the time of posting. With this in mind, we would 
greatly appreciate your help in ensuring that the information on this page is 
as complete and accurate as possible. If you spot any accessibility-related 
changes in iOS 10.2, please do let us know in the comments.


Accessibility Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.2


*   Users of the Freedom Scientific Focus line of braille displays may 
experience issues pairing their display with devices running iOS 10.2. The 
information we have available to us suggests that this issue primarily affects 
users who attempt to re-pair a Focus display which has previously been 
un-paired from the same iOS device, although in our testing it was also 
impossible to pair a Focus display for the first time when running iOS 10.2. It 
is our understanding that Focus displays paired before updating to iOS 10.2 
should continue to work correctly. This issue was apparently discovered very 
late in the beta cycle, and Apple has assured us that a fix is in the works and 
will be released in the near future. In the meantime, we recommend that you do 
not upgrade to iOS 10.2 if you use a Focus braille display and have a use case 
which may require you to un-pair and re-pair the display, or if you may need to 
pair a Focus display for the first time before Apple releases a fix. At the 
time of posting, we believe that the Focus line of displays are the only 
displays affected by this issue; in addition to the Focus 14 Blue and Focus 40 
Blue, the models we were able to test under iOS 10.2 include the Braille Edge, 
Braille Sense, Refreshabraille, VarioUltra, and Brailliant. 
*   When opening a message in the Mail app, VoiceOver focus is no longer 
automatically placed in the body of the message. To find the body of the 
message, the user must either swipe or explore by touch. It is our 
understanding that this change is not by design, and that we should expect to 
see this revert back to the previous behavior in a future iOS release. 
*   The VoiceOver rotor no longer consistently switches to the 'Actions' 
rotor item when VoiceOver focus lands on an e

re: iOS 10.2 and mail app change warned about during beta?

[rajmund]

Hello Alan,
Not Mary,
But I'm sure she won't mind me sharing it.  If you have an iPad 
on IOS10, you will know it, and hate it.  The 2 finger flick up 
to read all is broken.  Rather than the message body, it reads 
the entire screen, just like on the iPad.  It is still there, 
unfortunately.  In fact, public beta 7 is what they have released 
as the final, as I can't see an update.  Anyway, a step back, if 
you ask me.


Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly You warned us about taking care before upgrading to iOS 10.2 due 
to a proposed change to the mail app during beta.  Can you share 
with us now what that change was and if it was implemented?


Thanks.

Alan Lemly


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

[Chip Orange]

Thanks Dan, I’ll try and let you know.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an 
accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Hello,

For what it's worth, this is how I usually use the Alexa App on my iPhone 6S 
Plus iOS 10.1.1.

This is how I activate links or check boxes.

I double Tap, I hold the tap for a second or so and it usually works. But if I 
tap quickly and release my finger, usually things won't work. I have also 
spoken to Amazon and filled out the feedback form, but??

Just my thoughts on the subject.

 

Dan


On Dec 11, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:

Hi Sieghard,

 

Good point, so I’ll mention it here:  I and my wife and constantly making use 
of the Amazon Echo feature which lets you create shopping lists.  My problem 
with VO is that when I use the Alexa app on the Iphone, and try to take items 
off of the list once purchased (by tapping the checkbox next to the item), most 
of the time the checkbox remains unchecked.  Rarely it will changed to 
“checked” status, but it’s completely random.

 

I’ve written to Amazon a couple of times, and called them on the phone once, 
and they’ve told me their testing hasn’t turned up any issues with the app; so, 
I’ll write Apple to see if it’s a VO problem instead of an Alexa app problem.

 

Anyone have any ideas?  Can anyone else duplicate this?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Hi Chip,

 

What problem are you planning to report? I find it’s often a good idea to also 
post it to the list and in fact I sometimes post something to the list and CC 
Apple Accessibility on it or vice versa since sometimes what I think might be a 
bug is something others don’t experience, have a fix for or in some cases Apple 
may have changed how something is supposed to work and it may appear as a bug 
when it is not. I am not saying this is the case with your issue, but if you 
let the list know then others can try to reproduce it as well and add their 
voice to yours in reporting it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Can someone give me the email to use in order to report a possible IOS 
accessibility issue to Apple?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

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Sending text message as email

[Terrie Terlau]

Can anyone tell me steps to send text of an iMessage to other people in the 
email? I do not know how to copy and paste if that is the way to go. I have 
looked for other options in the iPhone message app but don't see a way to 
directly email iMessage. Right now, I and slowly and tediously copying the 
message from the phone to outlook on my PC and then sending from there. I hope 
there's another way. Thanks very much.
Best,
Terrie Terlau

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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Chip Orange]

Sorry, but I completely disagree with the advice or theory here stated as 
"battery conditioning".  According to many articles from authoritative sources 
(such as Pupular Mechanics), this isn't necessary with today's "smart" lithium 
ion batteries.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

sorry, but i haven't read all of this thread, but how long have you had your 
phone, and could it be a battery issue? Batteries don't last forever, and if 
you don't condition them correctly, meaning, let them run completely flat, 
every month or 2, then doing a full charge, without breaking that charging 
process, it could give you the issues, that you are currently experiencing.

If i were you, i would take it into an apple store, and let them run a full 
diagnostics on your handset.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Donna
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my 
battery was fine.

Donna
>
> Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, 
> before the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, 
> did you have these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise 
> since the update to iOS10?
>
> El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
>> For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
>> recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this 
>> does not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major 
>> problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>>
>>
>>   What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it 
>> came from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about 
>> on this thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys 
>> have seen? Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, 
>> I'll update as soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>>
>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>> ann,
>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>>
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>
 On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna   wrote:

 Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve 
 my problem of the battery draining extremely fast!

 Donna
> Hello Donna,
>
> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory 
> settings followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to 
> do to stop the battery drain.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna   wrote:
>>
>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&   done a complete restore 
>> with no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when 
>> the battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. 
>> I've turned off the phone&   left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. 
>> I'm out of ideas!
>>
>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>
>> Donna
>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too 
>>> fast! I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, 
>>> windows, and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on 
>>> the phone which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through 
>>> iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt 
>>> it back up?
>>>
>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>
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Re: Sending text message as email

[Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Hi! Wahat do you want to do? You have diside if you want send email or text 
message. You can't send mail as text message.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-13 בדצמ׳ 2016, בשעה 0:55, ‏‏Terrie Terlau ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Can anyone tell me steps to send text of an iMessage to other people in the 
> email? I do not know how to copy and paste if that is the way to go. I have 
> looked for other options in the iPhone message app but don't see a way to 
> directly email iMessage. Right now, I and slowly and tediously copying the 
> message from the phone to outlook on my PC and then sending from there. I 
> hope there's another way. Thanks very much.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
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Re: Having to restart voice over

[Nancy Badger]

I am using Alex, and I am using the latest version as of yesterday. I know 
another version came out today.
Nancy

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Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Dec 10, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> What voice over voice are you using?
> 
> Thom
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> alia robinson
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Having to restart voice over
> 
> that is exactly what mine did when everyone was telling me my volume was 
> simply down; it wasn’t voiceover just wouldn’t speak. It took a full erasing 
> of the phone, and setting up as new to fix, and the disturbing thing is it’s 
> started it again. 
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 10:51 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Something happened to me last night after I hung up a call. I had, however, 
>> no sounds at all at first, then I had the clicks when I swiped. My wife had 
>> a look and everything looked fine. I simply turned my phone off and powered 
>> it back on and Voiceover was back. This was the first time and I guess I'll 
>> see if this happens again.
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Re: iOS 10.2 and mail app change warned about during beta?

[Devin Prater]

Yep, just more iOS decay.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 4:49 PM rajmund  wrote:

> Hello Alan,
> Not Mary,
> But I'm sure she won't mind me sharing it.  If you have an iPad
> on IOS10, you will know it, and hate it.  The 2 finger flick up
> to read all is broken.  Rather than the message body, it reads
> the entire screen, just like on the iPad.  It is still there,
> unfortunately.  In fact, public beta 7 is what they have released
> as the final, as I can't see an update.  Anyway, a step back, if
> you ask me.
>
> Sent from a BrailleNote
>
>
>  - Original Message -
> From: Alan Lemly  To: VIPhone Email List  Date sent: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 16:33:29 -0600
> Subject: iOS 10.2 and mail app change warned about during beta?
>
> Mary,
>
> You warned us about taking care before upgrading to iOS 10.2 due
> to a proposed change to the mail app during beta.  Can you share
> with us now what that change was and if it was implemented?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
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Re: Sending text message as email

[Terrie Terlau]

Thank you. Here is what I need to do. Someone has sent me an iMessage and has 
asked me to send it to a group of people as an email. Is there a way to do this 
easily? Right now, I copy the text of the iMessage word by word onto my PC 
email programn and I send it to the group of people as an email from my PC. I'm 
hoping there's a way to do this without having to copy the text of the message 
by hand. Thank you so much. Best, Terrie Terlau
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
>  wrote:
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> Hi! Wahat do you want to do? You have diside if you want send email or text 
> message. You can't send mail as text message.
> 
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ‫ב-13 בדצמ׳ 2016, בשעה 0:55, ‏‏Terrie Terlau ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
>> Can anyone tell me steps to send text of an iMessage to other people in the 
>> email? I do not know how to copy and paste if that is the way to go. I have 
>> looked for other options in the iPhone message app but don't see a way to 
>> directly email iMessage. Right now, I and slowly and tediously copying the 
>> message from the phone to outlook on my PC and then sending from there. I 
>> hope there's another way. Thanks very much.
>> Best,
>> Terrie Terlau
>> 
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Re: iOS 10.2 and mail app change warned about during beta?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Alan,
rajmund responded to you already, but one possible positive note is that in the 
Apple this article on this topic which I posted to the list earlier, it is 
mentioned that Apple acknowledges this bug and says that it was not an intended 
design change. Therefore, there is hope that it will be fixed.
Mary


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> On Dec 12, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> You warned us about taking care before upgrading to iOS 10.2 due to a 
> proposed change to the mail app during beta. Can you share with us now what 
> that change was and if it was implemented? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
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Browsing or searching Netflicks

[Jim Portillo]

Hi there.

So, now I'm getting into Netflicks, after who knows how long it's been around.  
I'm interested in knowing a good way of searching or browsing the site.  I know 
there are categories, but it doesn't seem like it lists all of the shows within 
that category.
Also, I'd like to see what they have in Spanish, but again, I'm only seeing a 
limited number of selections, unless I type a specific name of a specific show.
Does anyone know how I can get a full list of a given category?  And, how can I 
look for things in Spanish in general?
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Some big audio issues with iPhone 7 and new update

[Gordon]

So major volume issues were introduced today with the new update on my 
end. The most noticeable would be when unlocking the phone and ending a 
phone call. I'm not sure if this is some sort of bug since audio is 
routed to two speakers or what. When unlocking the phone it takes a 
couple of seconds for the volume to raise to where you have it set. It 
starts out low and gains over a couple of seconds. this also applies 
when ending a phone call. I have my rotor volume set at 15 percent and 
I've tried this with audio ducking on and off. And of course nothing 
changed with the lowness of the alert tones. I really wish Apple would 
tie that to the ringer and alarm volume. I've never seen any other phone 
use the media stream for alert tones. I also have the box unchecked 
where ringer volume has to be adjusted in settings and the volume 
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Made a mistake on the type of Bluetooth keyboard I need help with

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,

I want to apologize for my message I wrote to the list earlier. I asked for 
help with a Bluetooth keyboard, and I gave the wrong Bluetooth keyboard 
information. I realized that it was still showing my older Bluetooth keyboard. 
Which was a Logitech.

Anyway, my friend gave me a box wave buddy, Bluetooth keyboard. I don't know if 
there are different models of these, or not.
However, my phone isn't even showing it in the list of options. My friend 
thought that the keyboard needed to be charged, because she had not used it in 
quite a while. He has a different iPhone now.

Anyway, I tried to charge it earlier. But I didn't let it charge for very long, 
because I needed my phone. Can I use my block from my iPad mini to plug in the 
USB cable, to charge this Bluetooth keyboard? Or do I need to use just a normal 
charging block, like one that might have come with my iPhone 5S? Also, how do I 
even know if this Bluetooth keyboard is on?
There is a very small switch on the bottom right side, if it is on your phone 
and the phone is facing you. You can move it up or down, but you have to use a 
fingernail to do so. Right now, but I have it in the up position.

About how long might it take for this keyboard to charge? Also, once it is 
charged, and my phone recognizes it, how do I pair it with my phone?

I know nothing about this keyboard. Although I have wanted one for a long time 
now. I like how it has to slide out keyboard. And for my last question.
Can I find a layout of the keyboard, somewhere? Or, is there a way for me to 
learn the Bluetooth keyboard commands?
I haven't ever done this before, even when I had my other keyboard. I mainly 
used it to write texts, or emails. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: Made a mistake on the type of Bluetooth keyboard I need help with

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Terri,

I can't help you with the on/off question, I would just Google  it, chances are 
you'll find a user manual online.

As for charging it, if it charges via a Mini or Micro USB cable you can plug it 
into anything you have that can take a USB cable, it makes no difference if you 
use the wall adapter of your iPhone, iPad or of some third party product that 
came with one.

Something like that normally would probably charge in a couple of hours, but 
even charging it for half an hour should get you half a charge since the speed 
with which batteries charge decreases when they get fuller, e.g. it may take 
half an hour to charge them to half full, but another hour and a half to charge 
the second half.

You phone won't see the keyboard until you put it in pairing mode. I can't tell 
you how that is done with this keyboard, again this would be in the user 
manual. Chances are there could be a small hole somewhere where you have to 
press a resessed button with the tip of a pen or paper clip.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Made a mistake on the type of Bluetooth keyboard I need help with

Hello everybody,

I want to apologize for my message I wrote to the list earlier. I asked for 
help with a Bluetooth keyboard, and I gave the wrong Bluetooth keyboard 
information. I realized that it was still showing my older Bluetooth keyboard. 
Which was a Logitech.
Anyway, my friend gave me a box wave buddy, Bluetooth keyboard. I don't know if 
there are different models of these, or not.
However, my phone isn't even showing it in the list of options. My friend 
thought that the keyboard needed to be charged, because she had not used it in 
quite a while. He has a different iPhone now.

Anyway, I tried to charge it earlier. But I didn't let it charge for very long, 
because I needed my phone. Can I use my block from my iPad mini to plug in the 
USB cable, to charge this Bluetooth keyboard? Or do I need to use just a normal 
charging block, like one that might have come with my iPhone 5S? Also, how do I 
even know if this Bluetooth keyboard is on?
There is a very small switch on the bottom right side, if it is on your phone 
and the phone is facing you. You can move it up or down, but you have to use a 
fingernail to do so. Right now, but I have it in the up position.

About how long might it take for this keyboard to charge? Also, once it is 
charged, and my phone recognizes it, how do I pair it with my phone?

I know nothing about this keyboard. Although I have wanted one for a long time 
now. I like how it has to slide out keyboard. And for my last question.
Can I find a layout of the keyboard, somewhere? Or, is there a way for me to 
learn the Bluetooth keyboard commands?
I haven't ever done this before, even when I had my other keyboard. I mainly 
used it to write texts, or emails. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Tidal music service

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
I wonder if anyone here has experience with a TIDAL music service. Specifically 
of course, the first question would be about accessibility and ease-of-use of 
the app. I'm kind of interested in the higher fidelity audio that is offered, 
although I don't know the extent of the catalog. I'm mostly a classical music 
and jazz listener. Of course, I have iTunes match and a large Apple Music 
library. But the notion of lossless is intriguing, especially as I have a pair 
of headphones with digital to analog converter that I think would take good 
advantage of this lossless service. So I'm wondering if folks have had good or 
bad experiences.
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how to get apps from phone to iPad and then have them sync

[regina alvarado]

Basic questions. I am getting an iPad Air II. It is 32 gigs. It will be 
basically blank. How do I get apps synced to it from the iPhone without doing 
it by hand? I had a 16 gig iPad that I had somehow gotten only to display apps 
for reading and videos and a few other things that were not games. Now I will 
have a 32 gig and want to have the same things on each device. I forgot what I 
did. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. I know this is basic, but just cannot 
remember what I did before.



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got this volume thing pegged

[Gordon]

So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the media 
volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer volume as 
most other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 80 percent 
in settings. Then I went back to home and turned voice over off with the 
triple press of the home button. I sent myself a text and the alerts 
volume is where the ringer volume was. I turned voice over back on and 
sent myself a text not changing any volumes and it was low again down 
with the media volume. So something with voice over is making this 
change. We need to all report this in hopes to get it fixed. You all can 
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Re: got this volume thing pegged

[Mary Otten]

Hi Gordon,
I would be happy to report this, except I'm not experiencing it as a problem. 
You said you had a volume set to 15%. That's awfully low. Or did I 
misunderstand? I admit that there is a slight decrease in volume, but it's no 
big thing and it comes back. Compared to other bugs, such as those with email 
threads, HTML messages reading rows and columns, and the much discussed bug 
that Apple has admitted to with email, where the two finger flick up doesn't 
work like it used to, this just doesn't seem like a big deal. Can't you raise 
your rotor volume up to something more than 15%? If I put my volume down to 
15%, I'm not sure I could really hear it unless I was in a very quiet 
environment. Can you help me understand what the real issue is here? Sorry.
Mary


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> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the media 
> volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer volume as most 
> other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 80 percent in 
> settings. Then I went back to home and turned voice over off with the triple 
> press of the home button. I sent myself a text and the alerts volume is where 
> the ringer volume was. I turned voice over back on and sent myself a text not 
> changing any volumes and it was low again down with the media volume. So 
> something with voice over is making this change. We need to all report this 
> in hopes to get it fixed. You all can easily duplicate this on your own 
> phones if you want.
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Re: got this volume thing pegged

[Gordon]

Ok my rotor volume is set at 15 percent right now. I adjust the media 
volume to a level where the tone can be heard, but voice over is still 
loud enough for people on the other side of the room to hear and 
completely understand. But since the media volume is tied to alerts, I 
have to have it up a little to hear the tones. I use the rotor volume to 
turn voice over down so it's not so loud. I just don't know why the 
alert volume is tied to the media stream while voice over is running, 
but goes back to the ringer and alert stream when it's not.



On 12/12/2016 10:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Hi Gordon,
I would be happy to report this, except I'm not experiencing it as a problem. 
You said you had a volume set to 15%. That's awfully low. Or did I 
misunderstand? I admit that there is a slight decrease in volume, but it's no 
big thing and it comes back. Compared to other bugs, such as those with email 
threads, HTML messages reading rows and columns, and the much discussed bug 
that Apple has admitted to with email, where the two finger flick up doesn't 
work like it used to, this just doesn't seem like a big deal. Can't you raise 
your rotor volume up to something more than 15%? If I put my volume down to 
15%, I'm not sure I could really hear it unless I was in a very quiet 
environment. Can you help me understand what the real issue is here? Sorry.
Mary


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On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gordon  wrote:

So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the media 
volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer volume as most 
other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 80 percent in settings. 
Then I went back to home and turned voice over off with the triple press of the 
home button. I sent myself a text and the alerts volume is where the ringer 
volume was. I turned voice over back on and sent myself a text not changing any 
volumes and it was low again down with the media volume. So something with 
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Re: got this volume thing pegged

[Richard Turner]

I just set my rotor volume to 15 %. For someone across the room to hear it at 
that level I would have to turn the volume up to nearly maximum using the 
volume buttons on the side of the phone.
Then, just about any ringer volume setting would be terribly loud.
The idea is to find a reasonable balance between cranking up the volume using 
the volume buttons, and the settings on the rotor and in the sound settings.
Without being in the same room, trying to describe all this in writing is going 
to be extremely difficult.
Perhaps you could do a recording and put it on dropbox to give an example of 
what you are saying.
Just my thoughts.
Richard


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On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Gordon 
mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote:

Ok my rotor volume is set at 15 percent right now. I adjust the media volume to 
a level where the tone can be heard, but voice over is still loud enough for 
people on the other side of the room to hear and completely understand. But 
since the media volume is tied to alerts, I have to have it up a little to hear 
the tones. I use the rotor volume to turn voice over down so it's not so loud. 
I just don't know why the alert volume is tied to the media stream while voice 
over is running, but goes back to the ringer and alert stream when it's not.


On 12/12/2016 10:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Gordon,
I would be happy to report this, except I'm not experiencing it as a problem. 
You said you had a volume set to 15%. That's awfully low. Or did I 
misunderstand? I admit that there is a slight decrease in volume, but it's no 
big thing and it comes back. Compared to other bugs, such as those with email 
threads, HTML messages reading rows and columns, and the much discussed bug 
that Apple has admitted to with email, where the two finger flick up doesn't 
work like it used to, this just doesn't seem like a big deal. Can't you raise 
your rotor volume up to something more than 15%? If I put my volume down to 
15%, I'm not sure I could really hear it unless I was in a very quiet 
environment. Can you help me understand what the real issue is here? Sorry.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gordon 
mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote:

So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the media 
volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer volume as most 
other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 80 percent in settings. 
Then I went back to home and turned voice over off with the triple press of the 
home button. I sent myself a text and the alerts volume is where the ringer 
volume was. I turned voice over back on and sent myself a text not changing any 
volumes and it was low again down with the media volume. So something with 
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Large text rendering in iOS mail has been fixed in iOS 10.2

[Pete Nalda]

For those that have missed this feature in Mail, I can confirm it's been fixed. 
I'm not seeing any messages that couldn't be rendered. 

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Super Mario Run！

['Ming' via VIPhone]

I know that this game has not released yet.
but, anyone have been doing a beta testing/ tester of this game.
and does it easy  for us to play through?

thanks!


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Re: Large text rendering in iOS mail has been fixed in iOS 10.2

[Harry Bell]

Yes! Hurrah!

> On 13 Dec 2016, at 06:27, Pete Nalda  wrote:
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> For those that have missed this feature in Mail, I can confirm it's been 
> fixed. I'm not seeing any messages that couldn't be rendered. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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Re: Large text rendering in iOS mail has been fixed in iOS 10.2

[Pete Nalda]

Since posting this, did encounter one, but it was from a yahoo group forum. 

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> On Dec 13, 2016, at 1:03 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
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> Yes! Hurrah!
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2016, at 06:27, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> For those that have missed this feature in Mail, I can confirm it's been 
>> fixed. I'm not seeing any messages that couldn't be rendered. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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