Re: DirecTV Now on AppleTV

[Kliphton Miller]

1st, yes the 2nd thing you here is what is up next.  2nd, to add things to your 
watch list, you can do this 2 ways.  You can either search for a show, and do 
it that way, or you can go into networks, shows, or movies and do it that way.  
Keep in mind, it has to be available for the watch list or that option won’t be 
there.
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 2:09 AM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> I just signed up for a trial of DirecTV Now. It seems pretty accessible so 
> far.
> 
> I figured out mostly how to use the guide. But I have a few minor issues I'm 
> having. Is there a tutorial or something out there for how to use it with 
> voiceover?
> 
> Here are the issues I'm having:
> 
> 1. On a channel, I noticed you can flick right to see what's currently 
> playing. If you flick right again, its peaks another show name. I'm not sure 
> what this signifies. Is it what's on next? Or something else?
> 
> 2. How do you add something to your watch list? I haven't been able to figure 
> this one out yet.
> 
> 3. Any other tips I might be missing?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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Re: Airpod question.

[Kliphton Miller]

Wow, I use to live in the cold capital of the country, in MN near the Canadian 
boarder, and boy did it get cold up there.  I Now live in FL, where it barely 
dips below 50 degrees, so I guess I take the warm weather for granted also even 
though I have only ben here for 3 years.  But yes, not having a volume control 
on the device would be a deal breaker for me too.  I haven’t gotten a pair in 
my hands, but I suspect that based on the size of the AirPods, they probably 
thought it would make the device bulky?  Who knows.
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 2:53 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> +1 to you Sieghard, my friend.
> 
> You make an excellent point about how one's environment, such as ambient 
> temperature, influences how one uses her/his devices.  
> 
> I definitely take the warm climate, down here in Los Angeles, for granted 
> (smile).  I almost never wear more than a light jacket on top of a thin shirt 
> so my iPhone is easily accessible as I generally cary it in my breast pocket.
> 
> Your point is well put and well taken.
> 
> Perhaps the next generation of Airpods will have more physical controls along 
> with a global software equalizer and maybe, just maybe, a variety of color 
> options from which to choose.
> 
> With a Smile,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Airpod question.
> 
> Yes, you can use the volume buttons on the phone or you can tap the Airpod 
> and when SIRI comes up you can ask SIRI to lower the volume (or increase it) 
> or you can say something like "Set the volume to 55%".
> Mark, in case you still read this thread, I did actually try out the Airpods 
> at an Apple Store and I took some time to do so.
> I am totally with you with respect to how they feel and sound, I think they 
> are a bit overpriced, but I'd fork out the $220 Canadian instantly if they 
> had a volume control, offered Play/Pause functionality as well as a way to 
> invoke SIRI. Yes, I know you can just get SIRI going and tell SIRI to Play or 
> Pause or to change the volume, but there are situations where I may not want 
> to talk into thin air in front of me to do this and for me these are basic 
> functions I am looking for and it just doesn't make sense to me to push these 
> Airpods as if they were the reinvention of the wheel and then I have to pull 
> out my phone if I want to do something as simple as change the volume or 
> pause my book or music without being forced to remove the Airpod from my ear. 
> I think they are totally cool, but for me they just are not ready for prime 
> time. I know you live in LA where it's mostly warm, but up here where I am 
> wearing a fair bit of clothing for 6 months out of the year and my phone is 
> usually in my hip holster under a layer or two being able to do such basic 
> things on the headset is nice.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Airpod question.
> 
> Can you control the volume with the volume buttons on the side of the phone?
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes indeed!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Airpod question.
>> 
>> I personally think the sound is incredible. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is the sound superior any better than the wired ones?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Jenifer,
 
 I am delighted that you are enjoying your Airpods.
 
 Yes, they are, indeed, wonderful.
 
 As for me, they have completely changed my perspective on Bluetooth 
 headset technology.
 
 I own a Voyager Edge but since purchasing my Airpods, I haven't used it, 
 once.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Airpod question.
 
 Thanks all for your replies. I love these little things! (Smile) Jen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 26, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> I read an article  on the Wirecutter having to do with reviewing  
> different headphones and the other day and airpods were not on the 
> reviewer's  list of  top  choices. They went over how ultimately, it 

Re: BeatsX Earbuds

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, Sieghard,

Perhaps I didn't put them deep enough in my ears, but I was rather surprised to 
not hear bass pretty much at all.  I'll give them another try.  These have a 
wire connecting the two earpieces which I think is good.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Feb 28, 2017, at 12:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I bought a pair for my wife and I did try them at the Apple Store. At first I 
> was not impressed with the fit, but the Apple guy then put on the little 
> wings and that worked better. I am not used to or a big fan of earbuds which 
> you have to push deeply into your ear but that is how these work and if they 
> are properly in I thought they sounded quite good and I had not complaint 
> about the base. I do, however, understand that traditionally Beats headsets 
> were very heavy on the base and these are not so I'm sure it's a matter of 
> personal preference.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: BeatsX Earbuds
> 
> Hi, All,
> 
> I received my BeatsX earbuds which has a wire between the two earpieces, but 
> I'm rather disappointed in them.  There seems to be no bass at all when 
> listening to music.  I was wondering if anyone else had a similar experience 
> and would like to know their thoughts.  I did, however, receive my AirPods 
> today, as I said in an earlier post, and absolutely love them!
> 
> Anyway, I would love to hear anyone's thoughts about the BeatsX if they have 
> them.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Esther Levegnale
> 
> 
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Re: BeatsX Earbuds

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
Glad to hear that the AirPods sound good; I'll have to check them out one of 
these days. 
I have a related question. There have been occasions when I've gone into 
Settings > Music and fiddled with the different EQ settings. Some of those EQ 
profiles are okay, others are so-so. Why is it that Apple  seemed to "sandbox" 
the equalizer and didn't make it global so that you could apply equalization 
when using apps like Pandora, iHeartRadio, OOTunes, et cetera? Is there some 
sort of app out there that would let you apply equalization globally? Just 
curious. 

Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Feb 28, 2017, at 6:41 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Sieghard,
> 
> Perhaps I didn't put them deep enough in my ears, but I was rather surprised 
> to not hear bass pretty much at all.  I'll give them another try.  These have 
> a wire connecting the two earpieces which I think is good.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 12:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a pair for my wife and I did try them at the Apple Store. At first 
>> I was not impressed with the fit, but the Apple guy then put on the little 
>> wings and that worked better. I am not used to or a big fan of earbuds which 
>> you have to push deeply into your ear but that is how these work and if they 
>> are properly in I thought they sounded quite good and I had not complaint 
>> about the base. I do, however, understand that traditionally Beats headsets 
>> were very heavy on the base and these are not so I'm sure it's a matter of 
>> personal preference.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Esther Levegnale
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: BeatsX Earbuds
>> 
>> Hi, All,
>> 
>> I received my BeatsX earbuds which has a wire between the two earpieces, but 
>> I'm rather disappointed in them.  There seems to be no bass at all when 
>> listening to music.  I was wondering if anyone else had a similar experience 
>> and would like to know their thoughts.  I did, however, receive my AirPods 
>> today, as I said in an earlier post, and absolutely love them!
>> 
>> Anyway, I would love to hear anyone's thoughts about the BeatsX if they have 
>> them.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> 
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Mike Arrigo]

No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically 
spoken, and the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be 
determined. With the Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching 
street until you are just about there. With the Sendero app, you have 
to feel around on the screen to get the information that nearby 
explorer provides automatically. I think Sendero will need to make some 
major improvements to their app if it is to remain competitive.

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Hi,


I’m looking to supplement my Blindsquare with either Nearby Explorer or 
Sendaro Seeing Eye. Is there one of these that clearly stands out?



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Re: automatic app updates?

[Wayne Merritt]

Though I don't use automatic updates either, note that if you turn it
on in iTunes and App Store settings, it will effect all apps--free or
paid. Since accessibility can be affected by app udpates, as Richard
described with DropBox, and since I like to know what is updated and
decide from there, I have not enabled this setting.

Wayne

On 2/28/17, rajmund  wrote:
> Hi,
> Settings, iTunes app store, and turn on updates.
>
> Sent from a BrailleNote
>
>
>  - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  Date sent: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:00:45 +
> Subject: Re: automatic app updates?
>
>
> I did not know that free apps didn't update automatically, but
> then again, I do not use automatic updates.
> Case in point, Dropbox seriously broke their app with the last
> update.
> Fortunately, I had not synced my phone with my computer and was
> able to delete the broken Dropbox and get an earlier version off
> my computer.
> Perhaps someone who uses automatic updates can address your issue
> more directly.
> Richard
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Louise Peyton
> mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello, all:
> I have the iPhone 7, and have discovered my free apps don't
> automatically update.  Is there a way to update automatically
> without having to manually update for each app?  Thanks in
> advance.
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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Richard Turner]

Thanks for chiming in Mike. I was hoping you would, since I know you have done 
some thorough work with both apps.
I have not done enough with both to make such a strong statement, but I have no 
reason to disagree. Each release of Nearby Explorer is getting better.
JMO,
Richard


> On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
> direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically spoken, 
> and the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be determined. With 
> the Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching street until you are just 
> about there. With the Sendero app, you have to feel around on the screen to 
> get the information that nearby explorer provides automatically. I think 
> Sendero will need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to 
> remain competitive.
> Original message:
> 
>> Hi,
> 
>> I’m looking to supplement my Blindsquare with either Nearby Explorer or 
>> Sendaro Seeing Eye. Is there one of these that clearly stands out?
> 
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Re: automatic app updates?

[rajmund]

hi,
I don't turn them on, either, simply, and you've said it as well, it's 
nice to know what you're pudating. and on the iPad, thanks to you guys, 
I didn't update my dropbox. but am pretty sure the original poster was 
looking for this setting.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 28/02/17 4:31 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Though I don't use automatic updates either, note that if you turn it
on in iTunes and App Store settings, it will effect all apps--free or
paid. Since accessibility can be affected by app udpates, as Richard
described with DropBox, and since I like to know what is updated and
decide from there, I have not enabled this setting.

Wayne

On 2/28/17, rajmund  wrote:

Hi,
Settings, iTunes app store, and turn on updates.

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RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Mike Ulrich]

I'd roll with Nearby Explorer too, but with my little old 16 Gig 5S; I'm too 
limited on space.
My next IPhone will be at least 64 Gigs for sure. Lesson learned.

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Subject: Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?


Thanks for chiming in Mike. I was hoping you would, since I know you have done 
some thorough work with both apps.
I have not done enough with both to make such a strong statement, but I have no 
reason to disagree. Each release of Nearby Explorer is getting better.
JMO,
Richard


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> No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
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> about there. With the Sendero app, you have to feel around on the screen to 
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> Sendero will need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to 
> remain competitive.
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Good grocery list app

[James Gibson]

Is there a good grocery list App?

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Re: Good grocery list app

[Michael D. Ulrich]

Try: our groceries

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Re: DirecTV Now on AppleTV

[Brandon Olivares]

Thanks.

One more question. I heard on some channels you can go back up to 72 hours. But 
how do you do that? When I select a day, it doesn't do anything.

Brandon
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
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> 1st, yes the 2nd thing you here is what is up next.  2nd, to add things to 
> your watch list, you can do this 2 ways.  You can either search for a show, 
> and do it that way, or you can go into networks, shows, or movies and do it 
> that way.  Keep in mind, it has to be available for the watch list or that 
> option won’t be there.
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 2:09 AM, Brandon Olivares  
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>> I just signed up for a trial of DirecTV Now. It seems pretty accessible so 
>> far.
>> 
>> I figured out mostly how to use the guide. But I have a few minor issues I'm 
>> having. Is there a tutorial or something out there for how to use it with 
>> voiceover?
>> 
>> Here are the issues I'm having:
>> 
>> 1. On a channel, I noticed you can flick right to see what's currently 
>> playing. If you flick right again, its peaks another show name. I'm not sure 
>> what this signifies. Is it what's on next? Or something else?
>> 
>> 2. How do you add something to your watch list? I haven't been able to 
>> figure this one out yet.
>> 
>> 3. Any other tips I might be missing?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: Good grocery list app

[James Gibson]

Thank you

> On Feb 28, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Michael D. Ulrich  
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> Try: our groceries
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> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks to all for the info.

What adbantages could I expect from having both Nearby Explorer and Blindsquare 
(with Apple Maps or Google Maps for assist)?

Thanks again, keith

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Subject: Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?


Thanks for chiming in Mike. I was hoping you would, since I know you have done 
some thorough work with both apps.
I have not done enough with both to make such a strong statement, but I have no 
reason to disagree. Each release of Nearby Explorer is getting better.
JMO,
Richard


> On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
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> Sendero will need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to 
> remain competitive.
> Original message:
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> 
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Re: DirecTV Now on AppleTV

[Kliphton Miller]

I think it is a select few channels, I heard they are adding more.  So I guess 
it is a hit or miss to see what channels do it.
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> One more question. I heard on some channels you can go back up to 72 hours. 
> But how do you do that? When I select a day, it doesn't do anything.
> 
> Brandon
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> 1st, yes the 2nd thing you here is what is up next.  2nd, to add things to 
>> your watch list, you can do this 2 ways.  You can either search for a show, 
>> and do it that way, or you can go into networks, shows, or movies and do it 
>> that way.  Keep in mind, it has to be available for the watch list or that 
>> option won’t be there.
>>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 2:09 AM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just signed up for a trial of DirecTV Now. It seems pretty accessible so 
>>> far.
>>> 
>>> I figured out mostly how to use the guide. But I have a few minor issues 
>>> I'm having. Is there a tutorial or something out there for how to use it 
>>> with voiceover?
>>> 
>>> Here are the issues I'm having:
>>> 
>>> 1. On a channel, I noticed you can flick right to see what's currently 
>>> playing. If you flick right again, its peaks another show name. I'm not 
>>> sure what this signifies. Is it what's on next? Or something else?
>>> 
>>> 2. How do you add something to your watch list? I haven't been able to 
>>> figure this one out yet.
>>> 
>>> 3. Any other tips I might be missing?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brandon
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unable to download books from Kindle

[Vicki]

I am trying to download my Kindle books to my IPad but I keep getting a message 
that the download has failed. I had no problem downloading them to my IPhone.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get them to download to my 
IPad? Maybe I am missing a step.

Thanks.

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Re: unable to download books from Kindle

[Michael Feir]

There's some sort of major problem with a server Amazon runs. You may not
actually have a problem once they fix their server. A bunch of sites are
having trouble or are offline since they also made use of this server. You
might just find that the problem goes away in a while.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Vicki  wrote:

> I am trying to download my Kindle books to my IPad but I keep getting a
> message that the download has failed. I had no problem downloading them to
> my IPhone.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get them to download to
> my IPad? Maybe I am missing a step.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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RE: Airpod question.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I'm sure they'll figure out how to add a volume control, let's just wait and 
see and hopefully, Mark, you'' get your wish and they make a nice hot pink one 
for you *smile*

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kliphton Miller
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airpod question.

Wow, I use to live in the cold capital of the country, in MN near the Canadian 
boarder, and boy did it get cold up there.  I Now live in FL, where it barely 
dips below 50 degrees, so I guess I take the warm weather for granted also even 
though I have only ben here for 3 years.  But yes, not having a volume control 
on the device would be a deal breaker for me too.  I haven’t gotten a pair in 
my hands, but I suspect that based on the size of the AirPods, they probably 
thought it would make the device bulky?  Who knows.
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 2:53 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> +1 to you Sieghard, my friend.
> 
> You make an excellent point about how one's environment, such as ambient 
> temperature, influences how one uses her/his devices.  
> 
> I definitely take the warm climate, down here in Los Angeles, for granted 
> (smile).  I almost never wear more than a light jacket on top of a thin shirt 
> so my iPhone is easily accessible as I generally cary it in my breast pocket.
> 
> Your point is well put and well taken.
> 
> Perhaps the next generation of Airpods will have more physical controls along 
> with a global software equalizer and maybe, just maybe, a variety of color 
> options from which to choose.
> 
> With a Smile,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Airpod question.
> 
> Yes, you can use the volume buttons on the phone or you can tap the Airpod 
> and when SIRI comes up you can ask SIRI to lower the volume (or increase it) 
> or you can say something like "Set the volume to 55%".
> Mark, in case you still read this thread, I did actually try out the Airpods 
> at an Apple Store and I took some time to do so.
> I am totally with you with respect to how they feel and sound, I think they 
> are a bit overpriced, but I'd fork out the $220 Canadian instantly if they 
> had a volume control, offered Play/Pause functionality as well as a way to 
> invoke SIRI. Yes, I know you can just get SIRI going and tell SIRI to Play or 
> Pause or to change the volume, but there are situations where I may not want 
> to talk into thin air in front of me to do this and for me these are basic 
> functions I am looking for and it just doesn't make sense to me to push these 
> Airpods as if they were the reinvention of the wheel and then I have to pull 
> out my phone if I want to do something as simple as change the volume or 
> pause my book or music without being forced to remove the Airpod from my ear. 
> I think they are totally cool, but for me they just are not ready for prime 
> time. I know you live in LA where it's mostly warm, but up here where I am 
> wearing a fair bit of clothing for 6 months out of the year and my phone is 
> usually in my hip holster under a layer or two being able to do such basic 
> things on the headset is nice.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Airpod question.
> 
> Can you control the volume with the volume buttons on the side of the phone?
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes indeed!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Airpod question.
>> 
>> I personally think the sound is incredible. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is the sound superior any better than the wired ones?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Jenifer,
 
 I am delighted that you are enjoying your Airpods.
 
 Yes, they are, indeed, wonderful.
 
 As for me, they have completely changed my perspective on Bluetooth 
 headset technology.
 
 I own a Voyager Edge but since purchasing my Airpods, I haven't used it, 
 once.
 
 Mark
 
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 Of Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Airpod question.
 
>>>

RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Jim Ruby]

It would be cool for those who ownnavigon if ne could use those maps, sure 
would save space. Right now I just use blindsquare and either google or apple 
maps.


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Richard Turner
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Thanks, I forgot to mention the fact that Nearby Explorer downloads the maps 
onto your phone.
That is a huge difference that I completely spaced.
That is a good advantage in case you travel through an area that doesn't have 
decent cell coverage. You just need to be able to use a few satellites, which 
is easier than you would think.
Navigon is another GPS app that stores the maps on the phone, but Nearby 
Explorer has been designed for visually impaired, so it gives you more 
information. than Navigon.
Richard


> On Feb 27, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Keith,
> 
> without knowing more about you and your personal situation, it is
> difficult to say one product is better for you than the other.  Blind
> end users have produced extensive demonstrations of both products and
> I would strongly suggest giving these a listen.  I live in Chicago in
> one of the most densely populated neighborhoods in America.
> Multi-story buildings are right up against the sidewalk.  GPS aps that
> require a continual data connection do not seem as accurate in this
> environment as Nearby Explorer that does not use a data connection for
> maps.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On 2/27/17, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Another difference between Seeing Eye and Nearby Explorer is that you need a
>> data connection for Seeing Eye because it downloads the maps you’re using.
>> Nearby Explorer stores all the maps on the iPhone, and this takes up 4 gigs
>> of storage.
>> 
>> Hope this is helpful.
>> 
>> Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
>> Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
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RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Keith,

If you have Nearby Explorer or Seeing Eye GPS you really shouldn't need to run 
another app such as Maps or Google Maps at the same time since both of these 
apps give you current information as you walk as well as turn by turn 
directions. Blindsquare gives you information about what street you are on and 
what cross streets are coming up and so on, but it doesn't navigate so that is 
where running two apps comes in. I also find that Blindsquare which uses Open 
Street Maps is sometimes not as accurate and a few months ago when I was in 
Calgary I was in an area where surprisingly it gave me nothing, but Seeing Eye 
worked fine. Blindsquare also does not tell you the type of intersection like 
4-way or 3-way etc., that is something I really like with the Seeing Eye app 
and have always liked in the past when I had a Trekker Maestro or the MobileGeo 
app on my old Windows smartphone back in the stone ages.
Maybe somebody can confirm this, but I assume and hope Nearby Explorer gives 
you that information? Based on some of the statements I heard and especially 
that recent updates have really improved Nearby Explorer, I am tempted to buy 
it.
Mike, maybe it's time for another comparison between Seeing Eye and Nearby 
Explorer at the current state of both apps since I'm sure both have added 
features and improved since you last did this.

Regards,
Sieghard 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:42 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

Thanks to all for the info.

What adbantages could I expect from having both Nearby Explorer and Blindsquare 
(with Apple Maps or Google Maps for assist)?

Thanks again, keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?


Thanks for chiming in Mike. I was hoping you would, since I know you have done 
some thorough work with both apps.
I have not done enough with both to make such a strong statement, but I have no 
reason to disagree. Each release of Nearby Explorer is getting better.
JMO,
Richard


> On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
> direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically spoken, 
> and the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be determined. With 
> the Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching street until you are just 
> about there. With the Sendero app, you have to feel around on the screen to 
> get the information that nearby explorer provides automatically. I think 
> Sendero will need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to 
> remain competitive.
> Original message:
> 
>> Hi,
> 
>> I’m looking to supplement my Blindsquare with either Nearby Explorer or 
>> Sendaro Seeing Eye. Is there one of these that clearly stands out?
> 
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RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Larry Lumpkin]

The last I knew, nearby explorer didn't give as complete an intersection 
analysis as the old trekker did.


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

Hi Keith,

If you have Nearby Explorer or Seeing Eye GPS you really shouldn't need to run 
another app such as Maps or Google Maps at the same time since both of these 
apps give you current information as you walk as well as turn by turn 
directions. Blindsquare gives you information about what street you are on and 
what cross streets are coming up and so on, but it doesn't navigate so that is 
where running two apps comes in. I also find that Blindsquare which uses Open 
Street Maps is sometimes not as accurate and a few months ago when I was in 
Calgary I was in an area where surprisingly it gave me nothing, but Seeing Eye 
worked fine. Blindsquare also does not tell you the type of intersection like 
4-way or 3-way etc., that is something I really like with the Seeing Eye app 
and have always liked in the past when I had a Trekker Maestro or the MobileGeo 
app on my old Windows smartphone back in the stone ages.
Maybe somebody can confirm this, but I assume and hope Nearby Explorer gives 
you that information? Based on some of the statements I heard and especially 
that recent updates have really improved Nearby Explorer, I am tempted to buy 
it.
Mike, maybe it's time for another comparison between Seeing Eye and Nearby 
Explorer at the current state of both apps since I'm sure both have added 
features and improved since you last did this.

Regards,
Sieghard 

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:42 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

Thanks to all for the info.

What adbantages could I expect from having both Nearby Explorer and Blindsquare 
(with Apple Maps or Google Maps for assist)?

Thanks again, keith

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?


Thanks for chiming in Mike. I was hoping you would, since I know you have done 
some thorough work with both apps.
I have not done enough with both to make such a strong statement, but I have no 
reason to disagree. Each release of Nearby Explorer is getting better.
JMO,
Richard


> On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
> direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically spoken, 
> and the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be determined. With 
> the Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching street until you are just 
> about there. With the Sendero app, you have to feel around on the screen to 
> get the information that nearby explorer provides automatically. I think 
> Sendero will need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to 
> remain competitive.
> Original message:
> 
>> Hi,
> 
>> I’m looking to supplement my Blindsquare with either Nearby Explorer or 
>> Sendaro Seeing Eye. Is there one of these that clearly stands out?
> 
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RE: Airpod question.

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mark and all following this thread,

I think I agree with Sieghard regarding the price of the Airpods being a bit 
high for their current feature set. But I've not even played with them so my 
opinion will just serve me. I do want to make sure I understood what the 
current Airpods can or can't do. Since I use my iPhone more than half the time 
for book reading with BARD Mobile, Audible, Voice Dream, etc., I use the remote 
button on my wired earpods all the time for stopping playback, rewinding, 
changing volume, etc. Is my understanding correct that in order to do the 
rewinding and stopping of playback using the Airpods that I would have to pull 
my phone out of my pocket and access the applicable app controls on screen to 
to this?  I thought I remembered Sieghard saying this but I'd rather ask 
directly and not depend on my memory.

Thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Airpod question.

+1 to you Sieghard, my friend.

You make an excellent point about how one's environment, such as ambient 
temperature, influences how one uses her/his devices.  

I definitely take the warm climate, down here in Los Angeles, for granted 
(smile).  I almost never wear more than a light jacket on top of a thin shirt 
so my iPhone is easily accessible as I generally cary it in my breast pocket.

Your point is well put and well taken.

Perhaps the next generation of Airpods will have more physical controls along 
with a global software equalizer and maybe, just maybe, a variety of color 
options from which to choose.

With a Smile,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Airpod question.

Yes, you can use the volume buttons on the phone or you can tap the Airpod and 
when SIRI comes up you can ask SIRI to lower the volume (or increase it) or you 
can say something like "Set the volume to 55%".
Mark, in case you still read this thread, I did actually try out the Airpods at 
an Apple Store and I took some time to do so.
I am totally with you with respect to how they feel and sound, I think they are 
a bit overpriced, but I'd fork out the $220 Canadian instantly if they had a 
volume control, offered Play/Pause functionality as well as a way to invoke 
SIRI. Yes, I know you can just get SIRI going and tell SIRI to Play or Pause or 
to change the volume, but there are situations where I may not want to talk 
into thin air in front of me to do this and for me these are basic functions I 
am looking for and it just doesn't make sense to me to push these Airpods as if 
they were the reinvention of the wheel and then I have to pull out my phone if 
I want to do something as simple as change the volume or pause my book or music 
without being forced to remove the Airpod from my ear. I think they are totally 
cool, but for me they just are not ready for prime time. I know you live in LA 
where it's mostly warm, but up here where I am wearing a fair bit of clothing 
for 6 months out of the year and my phone is usually in my hip holster under a 
layer or two being able to do such basic things on the headset is nice.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airpod question.

Can you control the volume with the volume buttons on the side of the phone?

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes indeed!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Airpod question.
> 
> I personally think the sound is incredible. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Is the sound superior any better than the wired ones?
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jenifer,
>>> 
>>> I am delighted that you are enjoying your Airpods.
>>> 
>>> Yes, they are, indeed, wonderful.
>>> 
>>> As for me, they have completely changed my perspective on Bluetooth headset 
>>> technology.
>>> 
>>> I own a Voyager Edge but since purchasing my Airpods, I haven't used it, 
>>> once.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Jenifer Barr
>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Airpod question.
>>> 
>>> Thanks all for your replies. I love these li

RE: Airpod question.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

You currently cannot adjust volume or rewind/forward on the Airpods like you do 
with the inline remote on the Earpods. You can change it so that tapping the 
Airpods will do Play/Pause instead of bringing up SIRI, but that's about it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Airpod question.

Hi Mark and all following this thread,

I think I agree with Sieghard regarding the price of the Airpods being a bit 
high for their current feature set. But I've not even played with them so my 
opinion will just serve me. I do want to make sure I understood what the 
current Airpods can or can't do. Since I use my iPhone more than half the time 
for book reading with BARD Mobile, Audible, Voice Dream, etc., I use the remote 
button on my wired earpods all the time for stopping playback, rewinding, 
changing volume, etc. Is my understanding correct that in order to do the 
rewinding and stopping of playback using the Airpods that I would have to pull 
my phone out of my pocket and access the applicable app controls on screen to 
to this?  I thought I remembered Sieghard saying this but I'd rather ask 
directly and not depend on my memory.

Thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Airpod question.

+1 to you Sieghard, my friend.

You make an excellent point about how one's environment, such as ambient 
temperature, influences how one uses her/his devices.  

I definitely take the warm climate, down here in Los Angeles, for granted 
(smile).  I almost never wear more than a light jacket on top of a thin shirt 
so my iPhone is easily accessible as I generally cary it in my breast pocket.

Your point is well put and well taken.

Perhaps the next generation of Airpods will have more physical controls along 
with a global software equalizer and maybe, just maybe, a variety of color 
options from which to choose.

With a Smile,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Airpod question.

Yes, you can use the volume buttons on the phone or you can tap the Airpod and 
when SIRI comes up you can ask SIRI to lower the volume (or increase it) or you 
can say something like "Set the volume to 55%".
Mark, in case you still read this thread, I did actually try out the Airpods at 
an Apple Store and I took some time to do so.
I am totally with you with respect to how they feel and sound, I think they are 
a bit overpriced, but I'd fork out the $220 Canadian instantly if they had a 
volume control, offered Play/Pause functionality as well as a way to invoke 
SIRI. Yes, I know you can just get SIRI going and tell SIRI to Play or Pause or 
to change the volume, but there are situations where I may not want to talk 
into thin air in front of me to do this and for me these are basic functions I 
am looking for and it just doesn't make sense to me to push these Airpods as if 
they were the reinvention of the wheel and then I have to pull out my phone if 
I want to do something as simple as change the volume or pause my book or music 
without being forced to remove the Airpod from my ear. I think they are totally 
cool, but for me they just are not ready for prime time. I know you live in LA 
where it's mostly warm, but up here where I am wearing a fair bit of clothing 
for 6 months out of the year and my phone is usually in my hip holster under a 
layer or two being able to do such basic things on the headset is nice.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airpod question.

Can you control the volume with the volume buttons on the side of the phone?

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes indeed!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Airpod question.
> 
> I personally think the sound is incredible. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Is the sound superior any better than the wired ones?
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jenifer,
>>> 
>>> I am delighted that you are enjoying your Airpods.
>>> 
>>> Yes, they are, indeed, wonderful.
>>> 
>>> As for me, they 

cases

[Michelle Hurdt]

Hi all,

 I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on iPhone 7 plus cases or iPhone 
6 plus? It would be very appreciated because A friend and i just got new 
iPhones.

Sincerely,

Michelle
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Dropbox Version 36.2 Bug and Response to Their Tech Support

[Alan Lemly]

Hello List,

 

As we've been discussing, the latest Dropbox version 36.2 update has a bug
that causes the app to close or crash when double tapping on the files
button and attempting to peruse them. I've traded a couple of messages with
Dropbox Support and received a question from them earlier today asking if
the problem persists when closing the Dropbox app and restarting it. Here's
a quote from the email:

 

" Could you please try restarting the app and let us know if the issue
persists?"

 

Unfortunately, I can't remember if I tested this specifically although I'm
pretty sure I did close the app and try it a number of times with the bug
still present. And I can't check it again because I uninstalled version 36.2
and replaced it with version 34.2 on my iPhone.

 

If someone will make sure version 36.2 is closed out of the App Switcher and
restart it and post back to confirm whether the problem still persists, I'd
very much appreciate it.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Richard Turner]

Keith,
If you have Nearby Explorer, you will not want to run Blind Square at the same 
time, since they will both be trying to tell you of the cross streets from 
slightly different perspectives and with different map data, so that could be 
rather confusing.
Not to mention they would also have different information about points of 
interest.
And, as others have said, you will not want to run more than one app that does 
turn-by-turn navigation. I think of these apps this way.
Blind Square is a good orientation app.
Google Maps is a good turn-by-turn navigation app.
I personally do not like the interface of Apple Maps, but I'm probably in the 
minority there.
Nearby Explorer and Seeing Eye GPS are very good for both orientation and 
turn-by-turn navigation.
Because of the map data being downloaded onto your phone, Nearby Explorer will 
work in more places in the United States than will Seeing Eye GPS, assuming you 
have the 4 plus gigabytes available on your phone for their maps.
Navigon is also a very good turn-by-turn app, and you can save space on your 
device by only downloading maps for just the states you will be traveling in.
But, it does not help with the local streets you are crossing the way Blind 
Square, Nearby Explorer and Seeing Eye GPS do.
Then to muddy the waters even more, there is MapQuest in the United States 
which is another, very good, turn-by-turn navigation app that uses maps from 
the cloud.
I hope that helps rather than confuses.
Richard



> On Feb 28, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks to all for the info.
> 
> What adbantages could I expect from having both Nearby Explorer and 
> Blindsquare (with Apple Maps or Google Maps for assist)?
> 
> Thanks again, keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?
> 
> 
> Thanks for chiming in Mike. I was hoping you would, since I know you have 
> done some thorough work with both apps.
> I have not done enough with both to make such a strong statement, but I have 
> no reason to disagree. Each release of Nearby Explorer is getting better.
> JMO,
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
>> direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically spoken, 
>> and the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be determined. With 
>> the Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching street until you are just 
>> about there. With the Sendero app, you have to feel around on the screen to 
>> get the information that nearby explorer provides automatically. I think 
>> Sendero will need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to 
>> remain competitive.
>> Original message:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>> 
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>>> Sendaro Seeing Eye. Is there one of these that clearly stands out?
>> 
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Re: Dropbox Version 36.2 Bug and Response to Their Tech Support

[Richard Turner]

I had a similar exchange of emails with their tech support today and confirmed 
that closing it out of the app switcher does not help at all. Nor does deleting 
and reinstalling it. 36.2 is simply broken.
I think they may have finally heard me.
What surprises me is I covered all that in my initial bug report to them.
But, after saying it several times, maybe they will fix it sooner rather than 
later.
Richard


On Feb 28, 2017, at 1:28 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello List,

As we've been discussing, the latest Dropbox version 36.2 update has a bug that 
causes the app to close or crash when double tapping on the files button and 
attempting to peruse them. I've traded a couple of messages with Dropbox 
Support and received a question from them earlier today asking if the problem 
persists when closing the Dropbox app and restarting it. Here's a quote from 
the email:

" Could you please try restarting the app and let us know if the issue 
persists?"

Unfortunately, I can't remember if I tested this specifically although I'm 
pretty sure I did close the app and try it a number of times with the bug still 
present. And I can't check it again because I uninstalled version 36.2 and 
replaced it with version 34.2 on my iPhone.

If someone will make sure version 36.2 is closed out of the App Switcher and 
restart it and post back to confirm whether the problem still persists, I'd 
very much appreciate it.

Alan Lemly

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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Feliciano Godoy]

BlindSquare simultaneously with Google maps is powerful. What are you trying to 
gain from the other options? What are you currently not liking with your combo?


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On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo 
mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote:

No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically spoken, and 
the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be determined. With the 
Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching street until you are just about 
there. With the Sendero app, you have to feel around on the screen to get the 
information that nearby explorer provides automatically. I think Sendero will 
need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to remain 
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RE: Dropbox Version 36.2 Bug and Response to Their Tech Support

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

Absolutely, closing the app, restarting the phone, whatever you try causes it 
to crash.
I have, however, confirmed that at least on my 6S Plus this only happens when 
Voiceover is running.
I just demonstrated how it crashes as soon as I tap on the Files tab to one of 
my employees, then I closed the app from the app switcher, turned Voiceover off 
and asked him to open it. He opened the app, tapped on the Files tab, opened a 
few of my folders in there and all worked just fine.
He left a folder open and when I restarted Voiceover I could see the files in 
that folder, but as soon as I performed the scrub gesture to back out to the 
main folders list it again crashed back to the home screen.
Anybody who is in conversation with Dropbox may feel free to copy and paste my 
above description to let them know that this seems to be a Voiceover issue, 
hopefully they'll fix it anyways and quickly, I'm sure if this happened to 
every single user it would have already been done.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:28 PM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Dropbox Version 36.2 Bug and Response to Their Tech Support

Hello List,

As we've been discussing, the latest Dropbox version 36.2 update has a bug that 
causes the app to close or crash when double tapping on the files button and 
attempting to peruse them. I've traded a couple of messages with Dropbox 
Support and received a question from them earlier today asking if the problem 
persists when closing the Dropbox app and restarting it. Here's a quote from 
the email:

" Could you please try restarting the app and let us know if the issue 
persists?"

Unfortunately, I can't remember if I tested this specifically although I'm 
pretty sure I did close the app and try it a number of times with the bug still 
present. And I can't check it again because I uninstalled version 36.2 and 
replaced it with version 34.2 on my iPhone.

If someone will make sure version 36.2 is closed out of the App Switcher and 
restart it and post back to confirm whether the problem still persists, I'd 
very much appreciate it.

Alan Lemly
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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Mike Arrigo]

I plan on it, just have to find the time to do it, but I can already 
tell you that nearby explorer is going to blow the seeing eye app out 
of the water.

Original message:

Hi Keith,


If you have Nearby Explorer or Seeing Eye GPS you really shouldn't need 
to run another app such as Maps or Google Maps at the same time since 
both of these apps give you current information as you walk as well as 
turn by turn directions. Blindsquare gives you information about what 
street you are on and what cross streets are coming up and so on, but 
it doesn't navigate so that is where running two apps comes in. I also 
find that Blindsquare which uses Open Street Maps is sometimes not as 
accurate and a few months ago when I was in Calgary I was in an area 
where surprisingly it gave me nothing, but Seeing Eye worked fine. 
Blindsquare also does not tell you the type of intersection like 4-way 
or 3-way etc., that is something I really like with the Seeing Eye app 
and have always liked in the past when I had a Trekker Maestro or the 
MobileGeo app on my old Windows smartphone back in the stone ages.
Maybe somebody can confirm this, but I assume and hope Nearby Explorer 
gives you that information? Based on some of the statements I heard and 
especially that recent updates have really improved Nearby Explorer, I 
am tempted to buy it.
Mike, maybe it's time for another comparison between Seeing Eye and 
Nearby Explorer at the current state of both apps since I'm sure both 
have added features and improved since you last did this.



Regards,
Sieghard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:42 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?



Thanks to all for the info.


What adbantages could I expect from having both Nearby Explorer and 
Blindsquare (with Apple Maps or Google Maps for assist)?



Thanks again, keith



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?



Thanks for chiming in Mike. I was hoping you would, since I know you 
have done some thorough work with both apps.
I have not done enough with both to make such a strong statement, but I 
have no reason to disagree. Each release of Nearby Explorer is getting better.

JMO,
Richard




On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:


No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically 
spoken, and the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be 
determined. With the Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching 
street until you are just about there. With the Sendero app, you have 
to feel around on the screen to get the information that nearby 
explorer provides automatically. I think Sendero will need to make some 
major improvements to their app if it is to remain competitive.

Original message:



Hi,


I’m looking to supplement my Blindsquare with either Nearby Explorer or 
Sendaro Seeing Eye. Is there one of these that clearly stands out?



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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Anthony Vece]

Mike;
With this program help me in navigating across parking lots? Thanks in advance 
Anthony

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 28, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I plan on it, just have to find the time to do it, but I can already tell you 
> that nearby explorer is going to blow the seeing eye app out of the water.
> Original message:
>> Hi Keith,
> 
>> If you have Nearby Explorer or Seeing Eye GPS you really shouldn't need to 
>> run another app such as Maps or Google Maps at the same time since both of 
>> these apps give you current information as you walk as well as turn by turn 
>> directions. Blindsquare gives you information about what street you are on 
>> and what cross streets are coming up and so on, but it doesn't navigate so 
>> that is where running two apps comes in. I also find that Blindsquare which 
>> uses Open Street Maps is sometimes not as accurate and a few months ago when 
>> I was in Calgary I was in an area where surprisingly it gave me nothing, but 
>> Seeing Eye worked fine. Blindsquare also does not tell you the type of 
>> intersection like 4-way or 3-way etc., that is something I really like with 
>> the Seeing Eye app and have always liked in the past when I had a Trekker 
>> Maestro or the MobileGeo app on my old Windows smartphone back in the stone 
>> ages.
>> Maybe somebody can confirm this, but I assume and hope Nearby Explorer gives 
>> you that information? Based on some of the statements I heard and especially 
>> that recent updates have really improved Nearby Explorer, I am tempted to 
>> buy it.
>> Mike, maybe it's time for another comparison between Seeing Eye and Nearby 
>> Explorer at the current state of both apps since I'm sure both have added 
>> features and improved since you last did this.
> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:42 AM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>> Subject: RE: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?
> 
>> Thanks to all for the info.
> 
>> What adbantages could I expect from having both Nearby Explorer and 
>> Blindsquare (with Apple Maps or Google Maps for assist)?
> 
>> Thanks again, keith
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:35 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?
> 
> 
>> Thanks for chiming in Mike. I was hoping you would, since I know you have 
>> done some thorough work with both apps.
>> I have not done enough with both to make such a strong statement, but I have 
>> no reason to disagree. Each release of Nearby Explorer is getting better.
>> JMO,
>> Richard
> 
> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
>>> No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
>>> direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically spoken, 
>>> and the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be determined. With 
>>> the Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching street until you are just 
>>> about there. With the Sendero app, you have to feel around on the screen to 
>>> get the information that nearby explorer provides automatically. I think 
>>> Sendero will need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to 
>>> remain competitive.
>>> Original message:
> 
 Hi,
> 
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 Sendaro Seeing Eye. Is there one of these that clearly stands out?
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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

[Anthony Vece]

Would blind square  help me navigate across an open parking lot?
 question

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> On Feb 28, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
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> BlindSquare simultaneously with Google maps is powerful. What are you trying 
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>  
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>> No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
>> direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically spoken, 
>> and the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be determined. With 
>> the Sendero app, it doesn't speak the approaching street until you are just 
>> about there. With the Sendero app, you have to feel around on the screen to 
>> get the information that nearby explorer provides automatically. I think 
>> Sendero will need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to 
>> remain competitive.
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>> 
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RE: Dropbox Version 36.2 Bug and Response to Their Tech Support

[Alan Lemly]

Richard,

 

Many thanks for this confirmation. I would have bet my last dollar that closing 
and restarting the errant Dropbox had no impact on the bug but I couldn't swear 
I had tried that and wanted to report accurately to the Dropbox support rep.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Version 36.2 Bug and Response to Their Tech Support

 

I had a similar exchange of emails with their tech support today and confirmed 
that closing it out of the app switcher does not help at all. Nor does deleting 
and reinstalling it. 36.2 is simply broken.

I think they may have finally heard me.

What surprises me is I covered all that in my initial bug report to them.

But, after saying it several times, maybe they will fix it sooner rather than 
later.

Richard

 


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Hello List,

 

As we've been discussing, the latest Dropbox version 36.2 update has a bug that 
causes the app to close or crash when double tapping on the files button and 
attempting to peruse them. I've traded a couple of messages with Dropbox 
Support and received a question from them earlier today asking if the problem 
persists when closing the Dropbox app and restarting it. Here's a quote from 
the email:

 

" Could you please try restarting the app and let us know if the issue 
persists?"

 

Unfortunately, I can't remember if I tested this specifically although I'm 
pretty sure I did close the app and try it a number of times with the bug still 
present. And I can't check it again because I uninstalled version 36.2 and 
replaced it with version 34.2 on my iPhone.

 

If someone will make sure version 36.2 is closed out of the App Switcher and 
restart it and post back to confirm whether the problem still persists, I'd 
very much appreciate it.

 

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Re: Dropbox Version 36.2 Bug and Response to Their Tech Support

[Vicki]

I tested it twice after receiving the same notice from Dropbox support and it 
still is not working. They told me they will continue to try to fix the problem.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:28 PM
  Subject: Dropbox Version 36.2 Bug and Response to Their Tech Support


  Hello List,

   

  As we've been discussing, the latest Dropbox version 36.2 update has a bug 
that causes the app to close or crash when double tapping on the files button 
and attempting to peruse them. I've traded a couple of messages with Dropbox 
Support and received a question from them earlier today asking if the problem 
persists when closing the Dropbox app and restarting it. Here's a quote from 
the email:

   

  " Could you please try restarting the app and let us know if the issue 
persists?"

   

  Unfortunately, I can't remember if I tested this specifically although I'm 
pretty sure I did close the app and try it a number of times with the bug still 
present. And I can't check it again because I uninstalled version 36.2 and 
replaced it with version 34.2 on my iPhone.

   

  If someone will make sure version 36.2 is closed out of the App Switcher and 
restart it and post back to confirm whether the problem still persists, I'd 
very much appreciate it.

   

  Alan Lemly


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Re: How do Nearby Explorer and Sendaro Seeing GPS compare?

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I'm not quite understanding your question. If you set landmarks, you will be 
able to navigate a parking lot with these landmarks in place.

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Would blind square  help me navigate across an open parking lot?
 question

Sent from my iPad

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BlindSquare simultaneously with Google maps is powerful. What are you trying to 
gain from the other options? What are you currently not liking with your combo?


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No contest here, nearby explorer is better, hands down. When you change 
direction with nearby explorer, the new direction is automatically spoken, and 
the upcoming street is announced as soon as it can be determined. With the 
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need to make some major improvements to their app if it is to remain 
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Hi,

I’m looking to supplement my Blindsquare with either Nearby Explorer or Sendaro 
Seeing Eye. Is there one of these that clearly stands out?

Thanks in advance, Keith --
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