Re: 18 Brutally Honest Confessions From A Former Apple Store Employee, BuzzFeed

[the . big . apple . fan]

Interesting... 17 and 18 are great ones. It’s crazy how these 
employees deal with product launches.



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Reading these “18 True Confessions” I was tremendously moved by #18 and equally 
taken by #17.



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Re: 18 Brutally Honest Confessions From A Former Apple Store Employee, BuzzFeed

[Bill Gallik]

Reading these “18 True Confessions” I was tremendously moved by #18 and equally 
taken by #17.


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Re: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Bill Gallik]

I got my first - an iPhone 5 - in September, 2012.  When I upgraded to my 
current iPhone 6 I “lent” the iPhone 5 to my niece so she would have reasonable 
communications while she’s driving her two daughters around Northern Wisconsin 
during our notably fierce winter months.  She’s continuing to use that iPhone 5 
without any issues just fine.

I will add that when Apple came out with the list of iPhone 5 serial numbers my 
original iPhone was in that list; I sent that iPhone in for the customary 
exchange to cover the faulty battery issue.  I do believe I will not upgrade 
until the iPhone my niece is using “hits the skids” and then I’ll upgrade and 
offer he my iPhone 6.  But it does appear that the iPhone 5 is still holding 
its’ own; that’s going on six years now so I certainly got my money’s worth on 
the purchase of that iPhone.  I’m not in any hurry to upgrade because, frankly, 
I’d prefer to wait for the next incarnation of the iPhone.


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RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, those would be the last 4 digits of your 16-digit credit card number, the 
rest doesn’t show for security reasons.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

On one of my online shopping sites, when I have "proceeded to checkout"  the 
number that the electronic clerk quotes are the last 4 digits in a string of 
16.  Do these numbers refer to me, personally?

 Jewel

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi Flor,

It is only the first digit which determines card type, Anna correctly pointed 
this out, 4=Visa and 5=Mastercard. There is of course more information hidden 
in a card number for those who know how to read it. For example, if with a 
Mastercard number the second number is a 1, then the second and third digit 
identifies the bank, if the second number is a 2, then digits 2, 3 and 4 are 
the bank identifier and if it’s a 4 then digits 2, 3, 4 and 5 are said 
identifier. My Mastercard starts with a “55” and in this case digits 2 through 
5 are the bank identifier.
With Mastercard all other digits after that except for the last one are the 
actual account number and the last digit is what is called a check digit.
The only cards where the first 2 numbers are required to know what card type it 
is are those which start with a 3, American Express, Diners Club and Carte 
Blanche. American Express cards always start with “37” and I think now some 
start with “34”, if the first two are 30, 36 or 38 it’s a Diners Club or Carte 
Blanche.
There is an online “BIN” (Bank Identification Number) database where you can 
type in a card number and it will give you the issueing bank, issueing country 
and so on, but it has a captcha which only a sighted person can solve and 
beyond 12 inquiries it’s a paid system.

I haven’t ever come across one of those yet, but I believe Mastercard has 
introduced a new BIN (Bank Identification Number) which starts with “2”, this 
is based on an email I received last year:

Dear Valued Merchant,
Effective October 14, 2016, MasterCard is introducing a new series of Bank 
Identification Numbers (BINs) that begin with "2" (e.g. 222100-272099).
This BIN series will help to support the expanding payment industry and growing 
number of cardholders globally.

I guess it’s just a matter of time until it was or will again be necessary for 
these systems to be expanded just as where there used to be one area code often 
for an entire state or canadian province there are now multiple area codes to 
support the growing numbers required for cell phones, Voip lines and all that.
It will be interesting to see when our current system of a 3-digit area code 
followed by a 7-digit phone number will not be enough any more to provide the 
amount of numbers required and maybe 4-digit area codes start to show up or 
instead of a 7-digit number there will then be 9 or 10-digit numbers.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

No, it does not mean that. The first digits on the card tell a computer or card 
network what type the card is. If a card number begins with 54, it’s a 
MasterCard. If a card number begins with 45, it’s a Visa. These are known to 
the computer, etc. I i know what my card type is, and I know I have the number 
typed in correcly. (Incidentally my card doesn’t yet support ApplePay.)

From: mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi,

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct.

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean 

Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

I read a few other ansers from Apple Support, (in the Apple Community Support 
forums, etc., and they were no closer to addressing others’ similar or same 
issues. Just ideas to try out, and if they work, good and we move on, and 
forget the problem occurred! If they don’t, ah, well, that’s another day’s 
tough work!
 
From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 1:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Hi,
Oh I’m sure you’re not the only one nor was I indicating such. I just was 
curious if perhaps I’d missed something in my reading of that which was offered 
as I didn’t see anything that would have directly seemed to correlate with the 
issue at hand.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

And you may be right. But I’m not the only one such a thing has happened to.  
For all I know, it could be the card issuer themselves who are creating the 
problem. ‘Funds’ aren’t the issue, though. I’m sure it’d be just a temporary 
thing, that’ll be solved the next time I go at it. 

From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Hi,
With all due respect, still after reading this article I see nothing that would 
indicate why one wouldn’t be able to advance through the card entry process. 
The authorization hold is common but wouldn’t prevent any purchases or 
verifications from taking place; nor did it mention a time period during which 
the card or the associated account couldn’t be used to download or purchase 
apps.
I’m glad you got it sorted by using another method still the mystery remains 
why that card wouldn’t easily activate and integrate itself into the account. 
I’m glad such has never befallen me and my Apple ID thus far.
Robin


From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Change or remove your Apple ID payment information - Apple Support

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201266

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
It asks me for the CVV and I fill that in. (VoiceOver reads it back, 
correctly.) It then goes  on to ask for the expiry date, which by default was 
set to 01/18. (It’s not then, and I was able to change that to the correct 
mm/yy with the Rotor in the pop-ups.) 

I think I’ll come back here with an Apple Support link, that seems to explain 
what happened (and possibly, why), in case somebody else has this issue in the 
future. It’s an Apple or iTunes verification thing. – At least as far as that 
goes.In the meantime, folk can google ‘credit card number does not match 
credit card type’. (You’d think it’d just mean that you’d chosen the wrong 
issuer for the card number; but it isn’t, or isn’t only, that.) 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Are you sure it’s not just asking to verify by requesting your credit card’s 
3-digit card verification code (on the back of the card)?

If I have a couple of cards registered and if I switch from one to another is 
usually comes up and wants me to do that. The screen looks like it has 
everything, but the field for the card verification code is blank, I double tap 
on it, enter the code and everything is fine after that.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

The Bank issued me with a new card, a MasterCard, when the change was made. 
(The card also has a number beginning with 54. The change was also reflected in 
my iTunes, as I provided the info there at that time (in 2016). 

I rather think that it’s related to my (earlier today) change from password 
entry to Touch ID as the means for verifying a download or purchase. Had I not 
wanted to download something today, I might not have encountered the issue. 
Fortunately, I do have an alternative that did work for the verification.   

 

From: Andy Baracco 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message 

Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Oh I’m sure you’re not the only one nor was I indicating such. I just was 
curious if perhaps I’d missed something in my reading of that which was offered 
as I didn’t see anything that would have directly seemed to correlate with the 
issue at hand.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

And you may be right. But I’m not the only one such a thing has happened to.  
For all I know, it could be the card issuer themselves who are creating the 
problem. ‘Funds’ aren’t the issue, though. I’m sure it’d be just a temporary 
thing, that’ll be solved the next time I go at it. 

From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Hi,
With all due respect, still after reading this article I see nothing that would 
indicate why one wouldn’t be able to advance through the card entry process. 
The authorization hold is common but wouldn’t prevent any purchases or 
verifications from taking place; nor did it mention a time period during which 
the card or the associated account couldn’t be used to download or purchase 
apps.
I’m glad you got it sorted by using another method still the mystery remains 
why that card wouldn’t easily activate and integrate itself into the account. 
I’m glad such has never befallen me and my Apple ID thus far.
Robin


From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Change or remove your Apple ID payment information - Apple Support

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201266

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
It asks me for the CVV and I fill that in. (VoiceOver reads it back, 
correctly.) It then goes  on to ask for the expiry date, which by default was 
set to 01/18. (It’s not then, and I was able to change that to the correct 
mm/yy with the Rotor in the pop-ups.) 

I think I’ll come back here with an Apple Support link, that seems to explain 
what happened (and possibly, why), in case somebody else has this issue in the 
future. It’s an Apple or iTunes verification thing. – At least as far as that 
goes.In the meantime, folk can google ‘credit card number does not match 
credit card type’. (You’d think it’d just mean that you’d chosen the wrong 
issuer for the card number; but it isn’t, or isn’t only, that.) 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Are you sure it’s not just asking to verify by requesting your credit card’s 
3-digit card verification code (on the back of the card)?

If I have a couple of cards registered and if I switch from one to another is 
usually comes up and wants me to do that. The screen looks like it has 
everything, but the field for the card verification code is blank, I double tap 
on it, enter the code and everything is fine after that.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

The Bank issued me with a new card, a MasterCard, when the change was made. 
(The card also has a number beginning with 54. The change was also reflected in 
my iTunes, as I provided the info there at that time (in 2016). 

I rather think that it’s related to my (earlier today) change from password 
entry to Touch ID as the means for verifying a download or purchase. Had I not 
wanted to download something today, I might not have encountered the issue. 
Fortunately, I do have an alternative that did work for the verification.   

 

From: Andy Baracco 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  >From: Flor Lynch 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:19 AM

  Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

   

  Hi, 

   

  I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this 

Re: Nearby Explorer List

[Richard Turner]

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Richard
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On Jan 14, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Joe Orozco 
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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

And you may be right. But I’m not the only one such a thing has happened to.  
For all I know, it could be the card issuer themselves who are creating the 
problem. ‘Funds’ aren’t the issue, though. I’m sure it’d be just a temporary 
thing, that’ll be solved the next time I go at it. 

From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Hi,
With all due respect, still after reading this article I see nothing that would 
indicate why one wouldn’t be able to advance through the card entry process. 
The authorization hold is common but wouldn’t prevent any purchases or 
verifications from taking place; nor did it mention a time period during which 
the card or the associated account couldn’t be used to download or purchase 
apps.
I’m glad you got it sorted by using another method still the mystery remains 
why that card wouldn’t easily activate and integrate itself into the account. 
I’m glad such has never befallen me and my Apple ID thus far.
Robin


From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Change or remove your Apple ID payment information - Apple Support

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201266

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
It asks me for the CVV and I fill that in. (VoiceOver reads it back, 
correctly.) It then goes  on to ask for the expiry date, which by default was 
set to 01/18. (It’s not then, and I was able to change that to the correct 
mm/yy with the Rotor in the pop-ups.) 

I think I’ll come back here with an Apple Support link, that seems to explain 
what happened (and possibly, why), in case somebody else has this issue in the 
future. It’s an Apple or iTunes verification thing. – At least as far as that 
goes.In the meantime, folk can google ‘credit card number does not match 
credit card type’. (You’d think it’d just mean that you’d chosen the wrong 
issuer for the card number; but it isn’t, or isn’t only, that.) 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Are you sure it’s not just asking to verify by requesting your credit card’s 
3-digit card verification code (on the back of the card)?

If I have a couple of cards registered and if I switch from one to another is 
usually comes up and wants me to do that. The screen looks like it has 
everything, but the field for the card verification code is blank, I double tap 
on it, enter the code and everything is fine after that.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

The Bank issued me with a new card, a MasterCard, when the change was made. 
(The card also has a number beginning with 54. The change was also reflected in 
my iTunes, as I provided the info there at that time (in 2016). 

I rather think that it’s related to my (earlier today) change from password 
entry to Touch ID as the means for verifying a download or purchase. Had I not 
wanted to download something today, I might not have encountered the issue. 
Fortunately, I do have an alternative that did work for the verification.   

 

From: Andy Baracco 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  >From: Flor Lynch 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:19 AM

  Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

   

  Hi, 

   

  I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

   

  So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? 
Does it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does 
it mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? 
Or, does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my 
Bank changed from 

Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
With all due respect, still after reading this article I see nothing that would 
indicate why one wouldn’t be able to advance through the card entry process. 
The authorization hold is common but wouldn’t prevent any purchases or 
verifications from taking place; nor did it mention a time period during which 
the card or the associated account couldn’t be used to download or purchase 
apps.
I’m glad you got it sorted by using another method still the mystery remains 
why that card wouldn’t easily activate and integrate itself into the account. 
I’m glad such has never befallen me and my Apple ID thus far.
Robin


From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Change or remove your Apple ID payment information - Apple Support

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201266

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
It asks me for the CVV and I fill that in. (VoiceOver reads it back, 
correctly.) It then goes  on to ask for the expiry date, which by default was 
set to 01/18. (It’s not then, and I was able to change that to the correct 
mm/yy with the Rotor in the pop-ups.) 

I think I’ll come back here with an Apple Support link, that seems to explain 
what happened (and possibly, why), in case somebody else has this issue in the 
future. It’s an Apple or iTunes verification thing. – At least as far as that 
goes.In the meantime, folk can google ‘credit card number does not match 
credit card type’. (You’d think it’d just mean that you’d chosen the wrong 
issuer for the card number; but it isn’t, or isn’t only, that.) 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Are you sure it’s not just asking to verify by requesting your credit card’s 
3-digit card verification code (on the back of the card)?

If I have a couple of cards registered and if I switch from one to another is 
usually comes up and wants me to do that. The screen looks like it has 
everything, but the field for the card verification code is blank, I double tap 
on it, enter the code and everything is fine after that.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

The Bank issued me with a new card, a MasterCard, when the change was made. 
(The card also has a number beginning with 54. The change was also reflected in 
my iTunes, as I provided the info there at that time (in 2016). 

I rather think that it’s related to my (earlier today) change from password 
entry to Touch ID as the means for verifying a download or purchase. Had I not 
wanted to download something today, I might not have encountered the issue. 
Fortunately, I do have an alternative that did work for the verification.   

 

From: Andy Baracco 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  >From: Flor Lynch 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:19 AM

  Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

   

  Hi, 

   

  I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

   

  So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? 
Does it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does 
it mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? 
Or, does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my 
Bank changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the 
past and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

   

  Any good ideas? Thanks. 

   

   

   

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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Jewel]

On one of my online shopping sites, when I have "proceeded to checkout"  the 
number that the electronic clerk quotes are the last 4 digits in a string of 
16.  Do these numbers refer to me, personally?

 Jewel


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.


Hi Flor,

 

It is only the first digit which determines card type, Anna correctly pointed 
this out, 4=Visa and 5=Mastercard. There is of course more information hidden 
in a card number for those who know how to read it. For example, if with a 
Mastercard number the second number is a 1, then the second and third digit 
identifies the bank, if the second number is a 2, then digits 2, 3 and 4 are 
the bank identifier and if it’s a 4 then digits 2, 3, 4 and 5 are said 
identifier. My Mastercard starts with a “55” and in this case digits 2 through 
5 are the bank identifier.

With Mastercard all other digits after that except for the last one are the 
actual account number and the last digit is what is called a check digit.

The only cards where the first 2 numbers are required to know what card type it 
is are those which start with a 3, American Express, Diners Club and Carte 
Blanche. American Express cards always start with “37” and I think now some 
start with “34”, if the first two are 30, 36 or 38 it’s a Diners Club or Carte 
Blanche.

There is an online “BIN” (Bank Identification Number) database where you can 
type in a card number and it will give you the issueing bank, issueing country 
and so on, but it has a captcha which only a sighted person can solve and 
beyond 12 inquiries it’s a paid system.

 

I haven’t ever come across one of those yet, but I believe Mastercard has 
introduced a new BIN (Bank Identification Number) which starts with “2”, this 
is based on an email I received last year:

 

Dear Valued Merchant,

Effective October 14, 2016, MasterCard is introducing a new series of Bank 
Identification Numbers (BINs) that begin with "2" (e.g. 222100-272099).

This BIN series will help to support the expanding payment industry and growing 
number of cardholders globally.

 

I guess it’s just a matter of time until it was or will again be necessary for 
these systems to be expanded just as where there used to be one area code often 
for an entire state or canadian province there are now multiple area codes to 
support the growing numbers required for cell phones, Voip lines and all that.

It will be interesting to see when our current system of a 3-digit area code 
followed by a 7-digit phone number will not be enough any more to provide the 
amount of numbers required and maybe 4-digit area codes start to show up or 
instead of a 7-digit number there will then be 9 or 10-digit numbers.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

No, it does not mean that. The first digits on the card tell a computer or card 
network what type the card is. If a card number begins with 54, it’s a 
MasterCard. If a card number begins with 45, it’s a Visa. These are known to 
the computer, etc. I i know what my card type is, and I know I have the number 
typed in correcly. (Incidentally my card doesn’t yet support ApplePay.) 

 

From: mi...@eastlink.ca 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:27 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

 

From: Flor Lynch 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

Hi, 

 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 

 

 

 

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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

Change or remove your Apple ID payment information - Apple Support

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201266

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
It asks me for the CVV and I fill that in. (VoiceOver reads it back, 
correctly.) It then goes  on to ask for the expiry date, which by default was 
set to 01/18. (It’s not then, and I was able to change that to the correct 
mm/yy with the Rotor in the pop-ups.) 

I think I’ll come back here with an Apple Support link, that seems to explain 
what happened (and possibly, why), in case somebody else has this issue in the 
future. It’s an Apple or iTunes verification thing. – At least as far as that 
goes.In the meantime, folk can google ‘credit card number does not match 
credit card type’. (You’d think it’d just mean that you’d chosen the wrong 
issuer for the card number; but it isn’t, or isn’t only, that.) 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Are you sure it’s not just asking to verify by requesting your credit card’s 
3-digit card verification code (on the back of the card)?

If I have a couple of cards registered and if I switch from one to another is 
usually comes up and wants me to do that. The screen looks like it has 
everything, but the field for the card verification code is blank, I double tap 
on it, enter the code and everything is fine after that.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

The Bank issued me with a new card, a MasterCard, when the change was made. 
(The card also has a number beginning with 54. The change was also reflected in 
my iTunes, as I provided the info there at that time (in 2016). 

I rather think that it’s related to my (earlier today) change from password 
entry to Touch ID as the means for verifying a download or purchase. Had I not 
wanted to download something today, I might not have encountered the issue. 
Fortunately, I do have an alternative that did work for the verification.   

 

From: Andy Baracco 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  >From: Flor Lynch 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:19 AM

  Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

   

  Hi, 

   

  I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

   

  So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? 
Does it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does 
it mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? 
Or, does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my 
Bank changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the 
past and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

   

  Any good ideas? Thanks. 

   

   

   

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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

It asks me for the CVV and I fill that in. (VoiceOver reads it back, 
correctly.) It then goes  on to ask for the expiry date, which by default was 
set to 01/18. (It’s not then, and I was able to change that to the correct 
mm/yy with the Rotor in the pop-ups.) 

I think I’ll come back here with an Apple Support link, that seems to explain 
what happened (and possibly, why), in case somebody else has this issue in the 
future. It’s an Apple or iTunes verification thing. – At least as far as that 
goes.In the meantime, folk can google ‘credit card number does not match 
credit card type’. (You’d think it’d just mean that you’d chosen the wrong 
issuer for the card number; but it isn’t, or isn’t only, that.) 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Are you sure it’s not just asking to verify by requesting your credit card’s 
3-digit card verification code (on the back of the card)?

If I have a couple of cards registered and if I switch from one to another is 
usually comes up and wants me to do that. The screen looks like it has 
everything, but the field for the card verification code is blank, I double tap 
on it, enter the code and everything is fine after that.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

The Bank issued me with a new card, a MasterCard, when the change was made. 
(The card also has a number beginning with 54. The change was also reflected in 
my iTunes, as I provided the info there at that time (in 2016). 

I rather think that it’s related to my (earlier today) change from password 
entry to Touch ID as the means for verifying a download or purchase. Had I not 
wanted to download something today, I might not have encountered the issue. 
Fortunately, I do have an alternative that did work for the verification.   

 

From: Andy Baracco 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

 

Andy

 

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  From: Flor Lynch 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:19 AM

  Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

   

  Hi, 

   

  I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

   

  So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? 
Does it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does 
it mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? 
Or, does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my 
Bank changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the 
past and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

   

  Any good ideas? Thanks. 

   

   

   

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[Sieghard Weitzel]

Are you sure it’s not just asking to verify by requesting your credit card’s 
3-digit card verification code (on the back of the card)?
If I have a couple of cards registered and if I switch from one to another is 
usually comes up and wants me to do that. The screen looks like it has 
everything, but the field for the card verification code is blank, I double tap 
on it, enter the code and everything is fine after that.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

The Bank issued me with a new card, a MasterCard, when the change was made. 
(The card also has a number beginning with 54. The change was also reflected in 
my iTunes, as I provided the info there at that time (in 2016).
I rather think that it’s related to my (earlier today) change from password 
entry to Touch ID as the means for verifying a download or purchase. Had I not 
wanted to download something today, I might not have encountered the issue. 
Fortunately, I do have an alternative that did work for the verification.

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

Andy

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From: Flor Lynch
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:19 AM
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi,

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct.

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.)

Any good ideas? Thanks.



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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

The Bank issued me with a new card, a MasterCard, when the change was made. 
(The card also has a number beginning with 54. The change was also reflected in 
my iTunes, as I provided the info there at that time (in 2016). 
I rather think that it’s related to my (earlier today) change from password 
entry to Touch ID as the means for verifying a download or purchase. Had I not 
wanted to download something today, I might not have encountered the issue. 
Fortunately, I do have an alternative that did work for the verification.   

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Flor Lynch 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:19 AM
  Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

  Hi, 

  I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

  So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? 
Does it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does 
it mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? 
Or, does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my 
Bank changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the 
past and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

  Any good ideas? Thanks. 



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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

I may do that. Thanks. 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Flor,

 

Why don’t you log in to http://AppleId.apple.com and delete your card 
completely, then set it up again. Obviously something got messed up and that 
will most likely fix it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

The card type should’ve automatically been on MasterCard, though, since that 
was my last option iTunes and hadn’t been changed. 

 

Thanks.

 

From: Lois Butterfield 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi,

 

There is a place where you need to swipe to the card type, visa, master card, 
and so fourth.  Maybe, you didn’t realize that, but you do need to choose the 
type.  That should fix it.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

From: mi...@eastlink.ca 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

 

From: Flor Lynch 

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

 

Hi, 

 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 

 

 

 

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RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Flor,

Why don’t you log in to http://AppleId.apple.com and delete your card 
completely, then set it up again. Obviously something got messed up and that 
will most likely fix it.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

The card type should’ve automatically been on MasterCard, though, since that 
was my last option iTunes and hadn’t been changed.

Thanks.

From: Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Hi,

There is a place where you need to swipe to the card type, visa, master card, 
and so fourth.  Maybe, you didn’t realize that, but you do need to choose the 
type.  That should fix it.

Take care,
Lois

From: mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi,

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct.

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.)

Any good ideas? Thanks.



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RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Flor,

It is only the first digit which determines card type, Anna correctly pointed 
this out, 4=Visa and 5=Mastercard. There is of course more information hidden 
in a card number for those who know how to read it. For example, if with a 
Mastercard number the second number is a 1, then the second and third digit 
identifies the bank, if the second number is a 2, then digits 2, 3 and 4 are 
the bank identifier and if it’s a 4 then digits 2, 3, 4 and 5 are said 
identifier. My Mastercard starts with a “55” and in this case digits 2 through 
5 are the bank identifier.
With Mastercard all other digits after that except for the last one are the 
actual account number and the last digit is what is called a check digit.
The only cards where the first 2 numbers are required to know what card type it 
is are those which start with a 3, American Express, Diners Club and Carte 
Blanche. American Express cards always start with “37” and I think now some 
start with “34”, if the first two are 30, 36 or 38 it’s a Diners Club or Carte 
Blanche.
There is an online “BIN” (Bank Identification Number) database where you can 
type in a card number and it will give you the issueing bank, issueing country 
and so on, but it has a captcha which only a sighted person can solve and 
beyond 12 inquiries it’s a paid system.

I haven’t ever come across one of those yet, but I believe Mastercard has 
introduced a new BIN (Bank Identification Number) which starts with “2”, this 
is based on an email I received last year:

Dear Valued Merchant,
Effective October 14, 2016, MasterCard is introducing a new series of Bank 
Identification Numbers (BINs) that begin with "2" (e.g. 222100-272099).
This BIN series will help to support the expanding payment industry and growing 
number of cardholders globally.

I guess it’s just a matter of time until it was or will again be necessary for 
these systems to be expanded just as where there used to be one area code often 
for an entire state or canadian province there are now multiple area codes to 
support the growing numbers required for cell phones, Voip lines and all that.
It will be interesting to see when our current system of a 3-digit area code 
followed by a 7-digit phone number will not be enough any more to provide the 
amount of numbers required and maybe 4-digit area codes start to show up or 
instead of a 7-digit number there will then be 9 or 10-digit numbers.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

No, it does not mean that. The first digits on the card tell a computer or card 
network what type the card is. If a card number begins with 54, it’s a 
MasterCard. If a card number begins with 45, it’s a Visa. These are known to 
the computer, etc. I i know what my card type is, and I know I have the number 
typed in correcly. (Incidentally my card doesn’t yet support ApplePay.)

From: mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi,

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct.

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.)

Any good ideas? Thanks.



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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Andy Baracco]

The first 4 digits of your card number represent the card type, i. e. 
Mastercard, Visa, or Discover. When your bank changed card types, they should 
have issued you a new card with a different number. That's the problem, and you 
will need to notify your bank.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Flor Lynch 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:19 AM
  Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.


  Hi, 

  I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

  So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? 
Does it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does 
it mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? 
Or, does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my 
Bank changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the 
past and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

  Any good ideas? Thanks. 




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RE: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Andrew]

Hi there, I don’t know if this matters or not.. All mastercards begin with a 5. 
 All visas begin with a 4.  Just FYI
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
 
The card type should’ve automatically been on MasterCard, though, since that 
was my last option iTunes and hadn’t been changed. 
 
Thanks.
 
From: Lois Butterfield   
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Hi,
 
There is a place where you need to swipe to the card type, visa, master card, 
and so fourth.  Maybe, you didn’t realize that, but you do need to choose the 
type.  That should fix it.
 
Take care,
Lois
 
From: mi...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
 
it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.
 
From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
 
Hi, 
 
I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 
 
So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 
 
Any good ideas? Thanks. 
 
 
 
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Re: DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
My biggest current issue with iDevices is this very thing. In early iterations 
of the operating system that clear button was always present in the top 
left-hand corner. Now sometimes I have to swipe through many and I mean many 
notifications to find a clear button usually presenting itself after an earlier 
today heading if at all.  I miss the old days when one could both find the 
clear button at will all the time or group notifications by app and clear them 
in those created sections (sad face). I submit feedback on this almost monthly 
because I think it’s important functionality to have whether one can see or 
not. It certainly made managing notifications much easier for me when it was 
implemented thusly on both accounts.
Robin


From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:39 PM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!

Thank you



  On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Kimberly  wrote:

  Perform a single finger flick after locating the clear button. One of the 
options will allow you to clear all notifications.


  Sent from Kimber's iPhone 
  The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
go on.—Annie Proulx

  On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:



Hi Everyone;

How do I delete all of my notifications on my iPhone at once?

Thanks
Anthony 


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!

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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

The card type should’ve automatically been on MasterCard, though, since that 
was my last option iTunes and hadn’t been changed. 

Thanks.

From: Lois Butterfield 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Hi,

There is a place where you need to swipe to the card type, visa, master card, 
and so fourth.  Maybe, you didn’t realize that, but you do need to choose the 
type.  That should fix it.

Take care,
Lois

From: mi...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi, 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 



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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

Hi, 
That may be the case. However, I didn’t find it when I looked, and I know from 
googling it that sighted users (who can see the screen!) have also had this 
problem. Apple Support posters don’t mention that scenario their replies, 
either. 

There’s one possibility in that iTunes puts a ‘temporary hold’ on a credit card 
for verification purposes when a switch or change of some kind has been made to 
the payment mathod (in this case Touch ID instead of typed password)?  (It 
wasn’t long since I had checked to see if ApplePay would work on my card or 
not.) 

In the meantime, iTunes can live happily with my PayPal. I may returbn to it in 
a few days. 

From: Lois Butterfield 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
Hi,

There is a place where you need to swipe to the card type, visa, master card, 
and so fourth.  Maybe, you didn’t realize that, but you do need to choose the 
type.  That should fix it.

Take care,
Lois

From: mi...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi, 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 



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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi,

There is a place where you need to swipe to the card type, visa, master card, 
and so fourth.  Maybe, you didn’t realize that, but you do need to choose the 
type.  That should fix it.

Take care,
Lois

From: mi...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi, 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 



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RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Installing a basic electronic lock is not super-difficult, but you might want 
to have a backup plan, somebody you can call and ask for help, just in case.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Thanks a million folks for this valuable information.
I do not have a security company, and I have no intention to hire one.  It is 
simply not needed in my area.
I asked my question because I have a tendency to lock myself out often.  That 
is why I thought of fingerprint or digital lock.
Now, I wonder how hard is it to install these locks.  Do I need to hire a 
specialist to assemble and install these kinds of locks, or I would be able to 
do it myself?  When it comes to the regular mechanical locks with keys, I 
always change them myself without hiring a Locksmith. I am not sure how hard it 
would be to install a digital lock by myself!
Cheers,
Cris

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, specs and 
most likely a user manual in PDF.
I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows you 
have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do is walk 
up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to unlock my 
Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone with Touch Id 
or my passcode.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
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Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide or 
find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer every 
time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if they have 
an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com to try to find what might not 
be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to set that up either 
and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is home kit capable as 
well.  any ideas?
Kay Malmquist
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From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint doorlocks 
years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were the biggest 
pain in the neck.
Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
phone.
I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually installed 
by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects via the 
Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm app 
remotely.
At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has home kit 
support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my front door” or 
from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a touchscreen so you’d have 
to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a tactile dot on the 1, 3, 5, 7 and 
9 to be able to use it manually.
Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door and I 
really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two rows of 
buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in the middle 
above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the model) doesn’t 
actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts forever because all it 
does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand to lock and unlock the 
door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable and we now moved this lock 
to our patio door.
If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay away 
from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock like 
that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and it’s 

Re: DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!

[Anthony Vece]

Thank you

> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> Perform a single finger flick after locating the clear button. One of the 
> options will allow you to clear all notifications.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Anthony Vece  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Everyone;
>> 
>> How do I delete all of my notifications on my iPhone at once?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Anthony 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!
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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[MamaPeach]

It means they don’t match, a Visa usually starts with a 4, a Mastercard usually 
starts with a 5 and a Discover card usually starts with a 6, this is how you 
can tell what kind of card you have. If you put in that it is a visa but the 
number starts with a 5 or a 6, then they won’t match because it should start 
with a 4. 
From: mi...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi, 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
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mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 



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Re: DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!

[Kimberly]

Perform a single finger flick after locating the clear button. One of the 
options will allow you to clear all notifications.

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> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Hi Everyone;
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DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Everyone;

How do I delete all of my notifications on my iPhone at once?

Thanks
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Re: Touch ID While Charging

[John Panarese]

If you read some articles out there, that is how they suggest you do it. 
Also, using the thumbs as your primary means for Touch ID is also recommended 
over other fingers. When setting up Touch ID, try to place your finger in 
different angles each time you place it. This gives you a much better chance of 
always being able to unlocking the phone when you use it.


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> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> When I did my fingerprints I rotated my finger so that it would read my 
> fingerprints from all angles.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:08 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I get this behavior sometimes when my phone is lying flat on a table at a 
>> weird angle from me. It's probably the angle you're having to approach your 
>> phone from while it's charging. You may have to turn your phone a little if 
>> it's on a flat surface in order to approach its Touch ID senser straight on 
>> as you probably did when setting up your finger print for use with Touch ID. 
>> Does this make sense? I think this is one of the reasons the phone asks you 
>> to place your finger on the phone at so many angles when setting up the 
>> finger print.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 7:03 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
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>>> I have an extremely strange problem. When my phone is charging, touch ID is 
>>> very inconsistent and often just doesn't work, but when it is unplugged it 
>>> works just fine pretty much every time. Has anybody else had this happen?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Touch ID While Charging

[Anthony Vece]

When I did my fingerprints I rotated my finger so that it would read my 
fingerprints from all angles.



> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:08 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I get this behavior sometimes when my phone is lying flat on a table at a 
> weird angle from me. It's probably the angle you're having to approach your 
> phone from while it's charging. You may have to turn your phone a little if 
> it's on a flat surface in order to approach its Touch ID senser straight on 
> as you probably did when setting up your finger print for use with Touch ID. 
> Does this make sense? I think this is one of the reasons the phone asks you 
> to place your finger on the phone at so many angles when setting up the 
> finger print.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 7:03 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> I have an extremely strange problem. When my phone is charging, touch ID is 
>> very inconsistent and often just doesn't work, but when it is unplugged it 
>> works just fine pretty much every time. Has anybody else had this happen?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Touch ID While Charging

[englishrider91]

I get this behavior sometimes when my phone is lying flat on a table at a weird 
angle from me. It's probably the angle you're having to approach your phone 
from while it's charging. You may have to turn your phone a little if it's on a 
flat surface in order to approach its Touch ID senser straight on as you 
probably did when setting up your finger print for use with Touch ID. Does this 
make sense? I think this is one of the reasons the phone asks you to place your 
finger on the phone at so many angles when setting up the finger print.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jan 14, 2018, at 7:03 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
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> I have an extremely strange problem. When my phone is charging, touch ID is 
> very inconsistent and often just doesn't work, but when it is unplugged it 
> works just fine pretty much every time. Has anybody else had this happen?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Daniel McGee]

Thank you mike and everyone else for your info, experiences providing links 
etc. 



It all has been useful knowledge in obtaining. 



I'm truly greatful for the Mac and iPhone Google groups because everyone helps 
out each other and while they can get rather busy sometimes, that is also a 
reason why I like these groups. Because they are still active today and such 
activity is fantastic for one and all in passing information around and 
providing help in email form to those who need it regardless of there ability. 
We can all learn from each other. :)

Kind regards 

Daniel 

> On 13 Jan 2018, at 23:03, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Most likely the battery in the iphone 8 is larger, I don't think leaving it 
> plugged in caused a problem. When lithium batteries are charged, the charging 
> circuit completely turns off, it does not go in to a trickle charge mode. 
> Here is some information on how charging lithium ion batteries works, 
> actually this site has lots of good battery information.
> http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 3:17 PM, regina alvarado  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> technically this is not a battery question but connected. I bought an ankor 
>> charger when I had my iPhone 7. It was about as big as a candy bar. If I 
>> didn't use it to charge my 7 during the day, I left it plugged in (only 
>> because I usually forgot to take it out). When I got my 8 Plus I began to 
>> notice I would only get about 40 percent charge. Eventually I bought a 
>> bigger charger which does a fantastic job, just a bit larger than the other 
>> one. Did I get less life from the charger because there is a bigger battery 
>> in the 8 Plus or did I wear it down by keeping it plugged? My roommate has 
>> it now, and her phone is an Android only about 1 inch smaller around the 
>> case. Thank goodness it is working beautifully for her so I kind of know the 
>> answer or what I think it is. Glad I could get more use out of it, though.
>> 
>> Reggie and Lex
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Daniel McGee  wrote:
>> 
>> That sounds great! How long have we been using lithium Ion for now compared 
>> to the other type of battery mike mentioned? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Jan 2018, at 20:15, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion 
>>> batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off, 
>>> there is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so 
>>> leaving it connected to a charger should be fine.
>>> Original message:
 Hello everyone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger all the 
 time?
>>> 
 I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many: charge 
 cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore.
>>> 
 I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge the 
 device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about leaving it on 
 the charger for all of the time. Obviously though, I would take it off if 
 I had to go out somewhere.
>>> 
 Thanks in advance for anyone who can clear up if leaving on charge is 
 either good: or bad for the overall health of an iPhone 8 battery.
>>> 
 Daniel
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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

Hi Anna, 

If I did (and I doubt it), since all three card types are/were ticked,) how 
would I select MasterCard? 

-- The choices of Payment mnethod are: Credit/Debit Card (Visa, Amex, 
MasterCard, Discover); (This is the radiobutton that is ticked). 
-- PayPalk; 
-- None. 

In the meantime, I just went to PayPal, and it was accepted by iTunes. I 
downloaded the app, but it is just a pale shadow of what it used to be. (In 
fact, it hadn’t been updated in a long time, and, since iOS11, it won’t play 
music, it seems.) (For the curious, it’s called Raven Radio.)  

From: Woody Anna Dresner 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:37 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi,

Visa credit card numbers begin with 4, Mastercard with 5, and Discover with 6. 
My guess is that you selected Visa while your card starts with a 5, or vice 
versa.

Best,
Anna




  On Jan 14, 2018, at 9:27 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

  it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you 
put in. hth. from Mich.

  From: Flor Lynch 
  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

  Hi, 

  I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

  So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? 
Does it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does 
it mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? 
Or, does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my 
Bank changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the 
past and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

  Any good ideas? Thanks. 



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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

No, it does not mean that. The first digits on the card tell a computer or card 
network what type the card is. If a card number begins with 54, it’s a 
MasterCard. If a card number begins with 45, it’s a Visa. These are known to 
the computer, etc. I i know what my card type is, and I know I have the number 
typed in correcly. (Incidentally my card doesn’t yet support ApplePay.) 

From: mi...@eastlink.ca 
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Subject: Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi, 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 



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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Visa credit card numbers begin with 4, Mastercard with 5, and Discover with 6. 
My guess is that you selected Visa while your card starts with a 5, or vice 
versa.

Best,
Anna



> On Jan 14, 2018, at 9:27 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
> it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you 
> put in. hth. from Mich.
>  
> From: Flor Lynch <>
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
> download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
> entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
> required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App 
> Store. The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct.
>  
> So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? 
> Does it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, 
> does it mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely 
> unrelated? Or, does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it 
> works? (When I/my Bank changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had 
> accepted that in the past and I made purchases using the latter card type.)
>  
> Any good ideas? Thanks.
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Re: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[michv]

it meens i think that the type of creddit card doesn’t match the number you put 
in. hth. from Mich.

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

Hi, 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 



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Message: Credit card number does not match credit card type.

[Flor Lynch]

Hi, 

I’m attempting to set up my payment info in the App Store for my first free 
download of an app on this iPhone 6s, having verified my fingerprint ID and 
entered my password when asked. (This is for a free app, but ‘verification is 
required’ probably as it’s my first download on this iPhone from the App Store. 
The 16-digit Credit card number, CVV, and Expiry Date, are  correct. 

So, what does, “Credit card number does not match credit card type” mean? Does 
it mean, that I must contact my card provider to proceed anyway? Or, does it 
mean something else? Or does it signify something else entirely unrelated? Or, 
does it mean that I should simply try PayPal and hope it works? (When I/my Bank 
changed from Visa to MasterCard, iTunes/App Store had accepted that in the past 
and I made purchases using the latter card type.) 

Any good ideas? Thanks. 


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Touch ID While Charging

[kelby carlson]

I have an extremely strange problem. When my phone is charging, touch ID is 
very inconsistent and often just doesn't work, but when it is unplugged it 
works just fine pretty much every time. Has anybody else had this happen?



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Re: 18 Brutally Honest Confessions From A Former Apple Store Employee, BuzzFeed

[Eric Oyen]

Believe me, a lot of the Apple store employees must have the patience of Job! 
It is amazing what they put up with on a new product introduction day! I know, 
I’ve been in a couple of their stores with that’s happened! A mad house just 
isn’t descriptive enough! Try and insane asylum!

-Eric

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> On Jan 13, 2018, at 19:01, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 18 Brutally Honest Confessions From A Former Apple Store Employee. We see a
> lot of nudes.
> By Stephen LaConteJanuary 13, 2018, at 1:16 p.m.
> 
> 1.
> Sometimes we honestly have no idea WTF is wrong with your device. 
> 
> 2.
> We see a lot of pictures you might not want us to see. We would never snoop
> through a person's device, ever. But sometimes people don't realize what
> they've left open on their screen when they hand it to us. 
> 
> 3.
> We know when you're lying, even if we don't say it. You can tell us you
> didn't drop your phone in water, but the liquid indicators inside your phone
> beg to differ.
> 
> 4.
> If you're looking for special favors, manners go a long way. Lots of people
> think they can scream their way into getting a free thing. It rarely works.
> 
> 5.
> But most of the time, we have to play by the rules no matter what. Even the
> nicest folks. Sorry.
> 
> 6.
> Employees aren't there to upsell you on something you don't need. Our job is
> to match you to the device that's right for you, even if it's the cheapest
> model.
> 
> 7.
> And, tbh, we don't actually care if you buy anything. Most employees don't
> work on commission, anyway!
> 
> 8.
> We don't actually give a shit when you mess with the display devices. Go
> wild! 
> 
> 9.
> ...Because all those screens automatically reset themselves overnight,
> anyway. Yeah, there's no way we'd be able to catch all those pranks
> ourselves.
> 
> 10.
> We know that some people just come in to check their email or Facebook, and
> we don't mind! We've got hundreds of devices lying around - go ahead and use
> them!
> 
> 11.
> Yes, we've heard the "Are you really a GENIUS???" joke a thousand times
> before. But we'll keep fake-laughing every time someone makes it.
> 
> 12.
> The store can get really busy - even when it looks totally empty. At any
> given moment, there could be dozens of people waiting on a Genius Bar
> appointment. They're not necessarily in the store!
> 
> 13.
> We really don't know any of the juicy corporate secrets. We aren't lying
> when we say we don't know when the new Macbooks will come out or what the
> new iPhone will look like. They don't tell us that stuff.
> 
> 14.
> No, we can't let you use our employee discount. Has any store in the history
> of retail allowed this???
> 
> 15.
> Product launch days can be really freaking stressful. Long lines, sold-out
> products, loud crowds, impatient customers...it's a lot to handle.
> 
> 16.
> But Apple makes the shifts a little more bearable with a lot of free food
> for employees. Free pizza in the break room makes everything better.
> 
> 17.
> There are a LOT of meltdowns at the Genius Bar. We don't like to be the
> bearer of bad news, but sometimes that's our job.
> 
> 18.
> But there are a lot of beautiful moments, too. Helping a grandmother learn
> how to FaceTime her grandkids, helping a new mom recover deleted pictures of
> her baby...that's the stuff that makes the job worthwhile.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephenlaconte/brutally-honest-confessions-from-a-f
> ormer-apple-store?utm_term=.tsm7K4jL2#.qtK2NQBbW
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Re: Anyone have the link for Shape tones

[Donna]

Hi

Following the link to the app store for Shape Tones on applevis.com It Shape 
Tones has been removed from the U.S app store. 

Donna 
> 
> Hi sorry I don’t remember the developer and maybe their app has been removed 
> but I am not able to find it in the App Store so wondering if anyone has the 
> link for it.
> Jen
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