Re: apple watch voice over help

[Maria Reyes]

settings general accessibility voiceOver. Then toggle the switch to on. 

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> On Dec 29, 2018, at 12:59 AM, The wolf  wrote:
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> Hello I was given a apple watch
> 
> not sure what generation it is can you tell me where to turn on voice over 
> at/?
> 
> Hank
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apple watch voice over help

[The wolf]

Hello I was given a apple watch

not sure what generation it is can you tell me where to turn on voice 
over at/?


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RE: A Question About How to Reorder Apps on Apple Watch

[M. Taylor]

Hello Maria and thank you for your reply.  

Yes, I encountered the same scenario as you described.  

I suppose then, at present, there is not a way to rearrange the apps when in 
list view, via VoiceOver.

Again, thank you for the feedback.  

Mark

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Subject: Re: A Question About How to Reorder Apps on Apple Watch

Hi there Mark, 
On my watch series 4 when in the doc pressing the digital crown brings me back 
to my watch face. I have to scroll down to the all apps button. 
Now after playing around with it, I noticed that I can only arrange apps in 
grid view. In list view when I swipe down I will get delete or nothing. (most 
likely on the preinstalled apps.) Now if you're in the grid view, you swipe 
down and you should hear arrange apps. then double tap. Then when you swipe 
down, you should hear move right, move left, and activate. choose either one. I 
had to press the crown to get out of editing mode. .
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On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
Hello All,

While I have customized my Doc, on my Apple Watch, I don't seem to be able
to discover a way to rearrange the order in which my general apps appear.

First, let me say that I have my apps being displayed in list view, as
opposed to grid view.  

Second, just so we're on the same proverbial page, one launches the Doc by
pressing the long side button on the watch.  The apps view is displayed by
simply pressing the Digital Crown.  

Now, on my phone, I see an area where I should be able to customize my apps
view but, however, on the phone, all I can see is the grid view which does
not match the list view, currently being displayed on my watch.  

Any ideas?  

Mark

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Re: Apple Music library and Alexa

[Mary Otten]

Hi Anthony,
Once you have your Alexa device connected with Apple Music, all you have to do 
is tell her to play XYZ playlist or XYZ album or whatever from Apple Music. You 
can go into the Alexa app on your iPhone and sent Apple Music as you are 
favored provider. Again, I don’t remember how I did it. I read an article and 
follow their instructions. It wasn’t hard. If you go into that app and get in 
there I think you will figure it out. I’m sorry I just don’t have the memory 
are used to have. It’s very annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Hello Mary;
> How could I access my own library and my own playlist?
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
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>> On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>>  Here is a very straightforward explanation. I did it, but I couldn’t 
>> remember, so I looked it up, and here you go.
>> https://www.tomsguide.com/us/play-apple-music-on-alexa,review-5290.html
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 28, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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>>> Yes, I would like to know also.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
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 Hello.  I received an Echo for Christmas, and I am an Apple music 
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 Alexa? Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
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Re: Apple Music library and Alexa

[Anthony Vece]

Hello Mary;
How could I access my own library and my own playlist?
Thanks in advance
Anthony 

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>  Here is a very straightforward explanation. I did it, but I couldn’t 
> remember, so I looked it up, and here you go.
> https://www.tomsguide.com/us/play-apple-music-on-alexa,review-5290.html
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 28, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I would like to know also.
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2018, at 8:47 PM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.  I received an Echo for Christmas, and I am an Apple music 
>>> subscriber.  Can anyone tell me how to connect my Apple Music library with 
>>> Alexa? Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
>>> Jess
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Re: A Question About How to Reorder Apps on Apple Watch

[Maria Reyes]

Hi there Mark, 
On my watch series 4 when in the doc pressing the digital crown brings me back 
to my watch face. I have to scroll down to the all apps button. 
Now after playing around with it, I noticed that I can only arrange apps in 
grid view. In list view when I swipe down I will get delete or nothing. (most 
likely on the preinstalled apps.) Now if you're in the grid view, you swipe 
down and you should hear arrange apps. then double tap. Then when you swipe 
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had to press the crown to get out of editing mode. .

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> On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> While I have customized my Doc, on my Apple Watch, I don't seem to be able
> to discover a way to rearrange the order in which my general apps appear.
> 
> First, let me say that I have my apps being displayed in list view, as
> opposed to grid view.  
> 
> Second, just so we're on the same proverbial page, one launches the Doc by
> pressing the long side button on the watch.  The apps view is displayed by
> simply pressing the Digital Crown.  
> 
> Now, on my phone, I see an area where I should be able to customize my apps
> view but, however, on the phone, all I can see is the grid view which does
> not match the list view, currently being displayed on my watch.  
> 
> Any ideas?  
> 
> Mark
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A question about mail on the Apple Watch

[Maria Reyes]

Hi everyone, 
When replying to an email list such as this one, how do I get the list name 
instead of the sender's name to show up in the recipient field?  

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A Question About How to Reorder Apps on Apple Watch

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

While I have customized my Doc, on my Apple Watch, I don't seem to be able
to discover a way to rearrange the order in which my general apps appear.

First, let me say that I have my apps being displayed in list view, as
opposed to grid view.  

Second, just so we're on the same proverbial page, one launches the Doc by
pressing the long side button on the watch.  The apps view is displayed by
simply pressing the Digital Crown.  

Now, on my phone, I see an area where I should be able to customize my apps
view but, however, on the phone, all I can see is the grid view which does
not match the list view, currently being displayed on my watch.  

Any ideas?  

Mark

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Cell Phone Repair, How to Repair a Cell Phone, Popular Mechanics

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Cell Phone Repair, How to Repair a Cell Phone, Popular Mechanics

How To Repair a Cracked Phone Screen, Popular Mechanics
We give you options, from a quick fix to professional grade.
By Kevin Dupzyk

Considering that phones these days are pretty much all screen, learning how
to fix a display can become pretty necessary, especially for the clumsy
among us. 
Luckily, there is more than one way to fix a phone, ranging from passable to
perfect. Here they are, in ascending order of professionalism.

Option #1: Packing Tape
The name of the game here is, "hold out until I'm eligible for an upgrade."
If you want to keep using the cracked phone, and don't want to risk losing
glass or slicing up your fingers, cover the screen with a layer of packing
tape. Line everything up carefully and trim it with an X-acto knife and it
may look almost like a real screen protector.

Option #2: Screen Protector 
The gussied-up version of the packing tape solution. This ensures that
you've got no seams and a clean line around the edges of the screen.
Granted, that might not be much of a concern when underneath there's a
spiderweb of cracks. 

Option #3: Replace the Screen Yourself
It is possible to replace a phone screen on your own. We'll refer you to
iFixit for their excellent, step-by-step guide with photos. A few key things
to keep in mind here: Before you decide to go this route, look into the cost
of the replacement screen. Today's phone screens, which incorporate touch
interaction and possibly biometric sensors, don't come cheap. 
Also look into the warranty situation. If you're the kind of person who is
willing to fix a phone yourself, you're probably not too worried about
maintaining your warranty-but it still can't hurt to know if you're going to
void it. 
Finally, unless you're already accomplished at repairing modern solid-state
electronics, you probably lack the specialized tools you'll need for the
job. Luckily, iFixit sells a handy kit that includes pretty much everything
you'll need, with the possible exception of their iOpener, a tube you heat
up and apply to the phone to soften its adhesives.

Option #4: Call In a Professional
You can always just take your phone into the shop. If you're an iPhone
person, look for your local Apple Store here. Best Buy will work on iPhones
and Samsung phones. And finally, UBreakIFix has more than 400 locations
across the country.

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Re: Apple Music library and Alexa

[Mary Otten]

 Here is a very straightforward explanation. I did it, but I couldn’t remember, 
so I looked it up, and here you go.
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/play-apple-music-on-alexa,review-5290.html

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Yes, I would like to know also.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
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>> 
>> Hello.  I received an Echo for Christmas, and I am an Apple music 
>> subscriber.  Can anyone tell me how to connect my Apple Music library with 
>> Alexa? Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
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RE: Some Questions for Apple Watch Owners

[M. Taylor]

Wow Jenny,  

You use mail on your watch to stay up-to-date on a mailing list?  You must be 
an expert user of the watch.  

Assuming that you hold your watch-arm near your sternum, does your arm not get 
tired after a few minutes?  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Questions for Apple Watch Owners

Oh I love my AppleWatch like Anna said. I use it for mail also. I am a 
moderator of a group, and it helps me keep caught up on messages.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 27, 2018, at 10:53 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I find that I am using my Apple Watch, series 4, much like I used my 
> series
> 2 model.  This is to say, for the most part I keep it in silent mode 
> using it, primarily for notifications of news and text messages that 
> take place on the phone.  The only other aspect of the watch that I 
> use is for the pedometer app, in my case, Fit Port.
> 
> I use the modular watch face with  timer, Fit Port, Weather, battery 
> level, and heart rate as the complications.
> 
> I have Hay Siri disabled and the watch unlocks when I unlock my 
> iPhone.  I also have wrist detection enabled.
> 
> I find that I frequently answer the phone on the watch, switching back 
> to the phone somewhere during the conversation.  This is only when I 
> am at home.
> 
> Although I love my AirPods, I have not yet attempted to use them with 
> the series 4 as doing so back on my series 2 was less than reliable.
> 
> Having said all of this I have the following questions:
> 
> 1.
> What watch face do you primarily use and with what complications?  
> 
> 2.
> Have you replied to, or composed text messages on the watch, when out 
> in public, without using AirPods?
> 
> 3.
> Have you used the workout app on the watch?  If so, can one easily 
> locate the number of steps taken  at any point in time?
> 
> I have some hearing loss so, when I'm out and about, I must raise the 
> watch up to my face in order to hear VoiceOver, unless I use my AirPods.
> 
> Without being provocative, I guess I'm trying to understand why a 
> VoiceOver user would want to compose/reply to a text message on the 
> watch, rather than doing so on the phone, especially if one has access to 
> both?
> 
> Somehow, I think I'm missing something as, to my way of thinking, 
> working on the phone is easier than working on the watch.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'm just putting this out there and hoping someone 
> will explain the advantages of using the watch instead of the phone 
> for texting and emailing.
> 
> As for me, I find that my arm gets tired if I attempt to do too many 
> things at once, on the watch, especially when I'm out and about.
> 
> I know several sighted Apple Watch 4 users who enjoy using their watch 
> on the LTE network as this provides freedom from having to carry the 
> phone with them, for example when down at the beach.
> 
> Now I have the LTE model but, currently, cannot imagine using the 
> watch in place of the phone, even temporarily.  This is why I have not 
> yet activated the LTE service on my series 4.
> 
> Question 4.
> Do any of you use your LTE watch independently from your phone, with 
> VoiceOver?
> 
> Please know that I am eager to learn how better to use my watch so I'm 
> looking forward to reading all replies.
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to contribute to this thread.
> 
> Mark
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RE: Some Questions for Apple Watch Owners

[M. Taylor]

Hello Anna,

This is a great answer.  The scenario you describe makes perfect sense.  It 
also makes sense that using one device can be more convenient than having to 
use two.  

Okay, I'll give the text message dictating feature a try.  

I've heard of Pedometer ++ but this is the first I've heard of an app called 
Activity ++.  I'll give it a look.

Thank you,

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 8:53 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Some Questions for Apple Watch Owners

Hi Mark,

I love using my watch to answer texts if I'm in the middle of something, like 
washing dishes. A message comes in, I read it, double-tap Dictate, speak my 
reply, and choose Send. Then I keep doing what I'm doing until the next text 
comes in. it's a smoother process than having to wipe my hands and take my 
phone out every time. I do some text message dictating while out and about, and 
usually it works fine. Sometimes I have to use the phone, though, if dictation 
isn't working properly. In general, though, dealing with one piece of equipment 
is easier than two. I rarely use the watch for email though.

I usually use a modular face. I like the app Activity++, which speaks my move 
progress in terms of number of calories, number of stand hours, and exercise 
minutes when I tap the complication.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 27, 2018, at 11:53 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I find that I am using my Apple Watch, series 4, much like I used my 
> series
> 2 model.  This is to say, for the most part I keep it in silent mode 
> using it, primarily for notifications of news and text messages that 
> take place on the phone.  The only other aspect of the watch that I 
> use is for the pedometer app, in my case, Fit Port.
> 
> I use the modular watch face with  timer, Fit Port, Weather, battery 
> level, and heart rate as the complications.
> 
> I have Hay Siri disabled and the watch unlocks when I unlock my 
> iPhone.  I also have wrist detection enabled.
> 
> I find that I frequently answer the phone on the watch, switching back 
> to the phone somewhere during the conversation.  This is only when I 
> am at home.
> 
> Although I love my AirPods, I have not yet attempted to use them with 
> the series 4 as doing so back on my series 2 was less than reliable.
> 
> Having said all of this I have the following questions:
> 
> 1.
> What watch face do you primarily use and with what complications?  
> 
> 2.
> Have you replied to, or composed text messages on the watch, when out 
> in public, without using AirPods?
> 
> 3.
> Have you used the workout app on the watch?  If so, can one easily 
> locate the number of steps taken  at any point in time?
> 
> I have some hearing loss so, when I'm out and about, I must raise the 
> watch up to my face in order to hear VoiceOver, unless I use my AirPods.
> 
> Without being provocative, I guess I'm trying to understand why a 
> VoiceOver user would want to compose/reply to a text message on the 
> watch, rather than doing so on the phone, especially if one has access to 
> both?
> 
> Somehow, I think I'm missing something as, to my way of thinking, 
> working on the phone is easier than working on the watch.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'm just putting this out there and hoping someone 
> will explain the advantages of using the watch instead of the phone 
> for texting and emailing.
> 
> As for me, I find that my arm gets tired if I attempt to do too many 
> things at once, on the watch, especially when I'm out and about.
> 
> I know several sighted Apple Watch 4 users who enjoy using their watch 
> on the LTE network as this provides freedom from having to carry the 
> phone with them, for example when down at the beach.
> 
> Now I have the LTE model but, currently, cannot imagine using the 
> watch in place of the phone, even temporarily.  This is why I have not 
> yet activated the LTE service on my series 4.
> 
> Question 4.
> Do any of you use your LTE watch independently from your phone, with 
> VoiceOver?
> 
> Please know that I am eager to learn how better to use my watch so I'm 
> looking forward to reading all replies.
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to contribute to this thread.
> 
> Mark
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google home, and the google home app

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

OK, trying to figure out what i'm missing here.  So i got my calendars
to sink up.  They show up in the month cal app, and in google calendar
ap.  The problem is, they are not showing up on the google home.  I
ask google home what's the next event on my caldndar.  I have plenty
of events in the next week, but only 1 event is showing up on the
home, or atleast that's what it's telling me.  Trying to figure out
what i'm missing.  Any ideas on setting to check in the google home
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Thanks,
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Re: Apple Music library and Alexa

[Anthony Vece]

Yes, I would like to know also.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 8:47 PM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
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Apple Music library and Alexa

[Jessica Barr]

Hello.  I received an Echo for Christmas, and I am an Apple music 
subscriber.  Can anyone tell me how to connect my Apple Music 
library with Alexa? Thank you in advance for any help you can 
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iPad and Text Expander Help

[Emilio S. Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

I am curious how others use Text Expander with the iPad?
I note that there are some bluetooth keyboard incompatibility issues, but I am 
wondering is Text Expander not able to be used with a Slim Folio keyboard?
When I cycle through the different keyboards by pressing "F3," and place focus 
on the Text Expander keyboard, I am not able to use this in messages for 
example.
As another instance, I am composing this note with Drafts5 because of its Text 
Expander integration.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide. 

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Re: Isaac hebert

[Wayne Scott]

I just joined. Here’s the subscribe address:  only-apple-tns+subscr...@groups.io

Chime bear 
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> On Dec 28, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> There is no more peel the Apple group - Only Apple, it is called. 
> 
> Best regards,
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Shirley Healy
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 3:54 PM
> To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
> Subject: Isaac hebert
> 
> Anyone know his email addy? Doesnt he run the peel the apple email group? I 
> wanted to join it!
> I tried unsuccessfully to join! 
> shirley
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Sandy from the Dark Side of the Moon, please contact me

[Richard Turner]

Sandy,
A friend is planning to move to Ireland and I wondered if you would be willing 
to answer questions, or be a source of information.
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My address is richardturne...@outlook.com

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MusicStreamer

[Robert Wright]

This app will connect to your pc or mac through your networkand allow you to 
stream to your iDevice or airplay to your google home.  Note that this only 
works when devices are on the same network. 

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RE: Isaac hebert

[Carolyn Arnold]

There is no more peel the Apple group - Only Apple, it is called. 

Best regards,

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Anyone know his email addy? Doesnt he run the peel the apple email group? I 
wanted to join it!
I tried unsuccessfully to join! 
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Re: Isaac hebert

[Judy Pryor]

The Peel the Apple group no longer exists.Isaac left that group and did not 
join the new group which is now called only-apple-tns+ow...@groups.io

Thats if you wish to contact the owner.

Judy
Sent from my iPhone

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> Anyone know his email addy? Doesnt he run the peel the apple email group? I 
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[Shirley Healy]

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google calendar and google home

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

OK, so i linked my google calendar and my IOS calendar.  How i am
trying to get them to come up on my google home.  It's telling me
there are no events in my calendar, when i am viewing them on the
phone.  Any ideas what to change?

Thanks,
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Re: Amazon Echo Definitely Better than Apple HomePod, in One Respect

[Ed Worrell]

This might help…

Just like a survey you make the results say what you want. Ask the questions 
that you know the competition will not get correct and you can make any speaker 
stand out. Just For your information.

Ed

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
>   Perhaps the following will help
> 
> Annual Smart Speaker IQ Test
> Loup Ventures asked the four digital assistants 800 questions each and 
> explains the results, comparing to previous years:
> http://bit.ly/2CB0mYE
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 2:13 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Amazon Echo Definitely Better than Apple HomePod, in One Respect
> 
> Hey Mary,
> 
> I’m glad to hear someone on my side of the fence for once. It seems that the 
> internet seems to hate Apple for the sake of hating Apple. The HomePod in my 
> eyes will never be what Amazon has made the Echo system. I am personally ok 
> with that too. It was created to be a home speaker system to listen to your 
> music, podcasts, and even news related topics. I love it for the simplicity. 
> Of course you can also check the weather, set timers, etc. It does all of 
> this just like the Echo system of speakers. The skills that are in the Echo 
> store are simply to cheesy for me to take seriously. The only skill I am 
> looking forward to is the MLB skill to tell Alexa to listen to the Atlanta 
> Braves this season. I think I might be able to accomplish this task with the 
> HomePod and the Siri short cut for the MLB @Bat app too. We will have to wait 
> and see.
> 
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with you, Ed. I own a couple of echoes. Generally, I find that the 
>> Alexa system is horrible with respect to giving the information I actually 
>> need or could use, outside of the weather and a little bit of news briefing. 
>> and most of the skills are junk games and other Time wasters. That said, I 
>> do appreciate the echo for the easy access to SiriusXM and to its ability 
>> for reading  kindle or audible books while I exercise. I’m not into the 
>> automated so-called smart home, so I have no comment on HomePod or echo in 
>> that regard. But as a music listening sores, the HomePods kill the echoes. 
>> They should, they are more expensive. I have a pair of HomePods that I got 
>> when the price came down to $500 for the pair. They sound almost as good as 
>> my wonderful  floorstanding stereo speakers it cost me over twice what I 
>> paid for the HomePods. I would never consider any pair of echoes as any sort 
>> of real hi-fi system even for moderately good audio quality listening.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have both an Apple HomePod and an Echo Dot connected to Bose speakers. I 
>>> am not sure why everyone thinks the HomePod is so far behind on  “skills”. 
>>> The HomePod is a far better device, Now with Siri short cuts you can use 
>>> third party apps to do things from the HomePod. I find the Apple speaker 
>>> much simpler to use than the Amazon Echo. You have to remember very 
>>> specific application names and commands to use the Echo’s 3 million fart 
>>> applications. The skills on the Echo aren’t that impressive to me. It’s 
>>> next to impossible to set up using the app, you almost always have to use 
>>> the internet browser on a computer for full access to the settings.
>>> 
>>> JMO
>>> 
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
 On Dec 24, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
 The home pod is behind both the Echo and Google home in many respects. 
 Even with general features, the home pod is really lacking, and I think 
 you can now play Apple music on the echo so there is little reason to get 
 a home pod. Hopefully Apple will catch up but they have a ways to go.
 
> On Dec 23, 2018, at 5:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> You know, one of the most popular request made to both Apple and Amazon is
> that they provide independent sound equalizer support for their
> music/speaker devices.
> 
> When I purchased my first Echo device, a while ago, this feature was not
> available.  The same was true for HomePod.
> 
> However, recently, this feature has now been added to the Echo interface,
> under audio from within the Settings area of the Alexa app.  This is very,
> very nice.
> 
> However, Apple has not added this feature to HomePod.   At least, if it 
> has,
> I have not been abel to locate it in the HomePod interface.
> 
> And yes, I know there is a general sound equalizer, of sort, in the iOS
> settings area of the music app but, hereto, Apple falls short as these
> options are merely presets, not true customizable controls.  Moreover, one
> should not have to adjust the sound levels for an entire operating system 
> in
> order to 

Re: Apple Password Issue For A Friend In Pakistan

[Richard Turner]

have him wait a while, then reboot the phone by at least powering it off and 
back on.
Then try again. It should let him try 2 or 3 more times.
But, Apple makes it very clear from the beginning that passwords are required 
to have at least one capital letter.
It is a tedious process to reset a password so hopefully the reboot will work.
Richard



"He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."

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On Dec 28, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Fazil M. 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, list.
A friend in Pakistan is having an issue with his Apple password. He told me 
that he entered his password several times but got the wrong password prompt. 
Then He realized that the password was case sensitive and he was entering all 
lower case. He told me that now the ID/password is locked. how can I help him? 
can he reset his password?
If yes, how can that be done, please?
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Apple Password Issue For A Friend In Pakistan

[Fazil M.]

Hi, list.

A friend in Pakistan is having an issue with his Apple password. He told me
that he entered his password several times but got the wrong password
prompt. Then He realized that the password was case sensitive and he was
entering all lower case. He told me that now the ID/password is locked. how
can I help him? can he reset his password?

If yes, how can that be done, please?

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Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader

[Ann Byrne]

I use Dropbox.  Place the file in Dropbox, then transfer it to Voice Dream.
At 11:03 AM 12/28/2018, you wrote:

Hi,

Apps have been removed from iTunes in the sense that you can't use 
iTunes to download or update apps. File sharing is still there, 
though, so you can use iTunes to transfer files into your apps.


Best,
Anna




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> Yes, itunes file sharing is in the current version of itunes.
>
> -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice 
Dream reader

>
> Hi,
>
> Is Itunes file sharing still available in the latest version of Itunes?
> When I looked in the Voice dream reader user guide it spoke about
> choosing Apps and selecting voice dream reader and then selecting the
> file to be transferred.
>
> I can't find any reference to apps in my current version of Itunes and I
> vaguely remember some discussions on this list about apps being removed
> from Itunes.
>
> Any help welcome.
>
>
> Gary
>
>
> On 24/12/2018 16:59, ndagosti...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> I have used Dropbox and Google drive and have had success.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 10:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with 
Voice Dream reader

>>
>> I use itunes file sharing to tramsfer files into voice dream reader.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 4:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Any advice on the best way to transfer audio books etc onto an 
Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader?  I looked at SD card 
readers with Lightening connectors but it looks as if these only 
work for photographs and not files of other formats.

>>
>> Any pointers to podcasts on doing the transfer would be useful.
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>> Gary
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Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Apps have been removed from iTunes in the sense that you can't use iTunes to 
download or update apps. File sharing is still there, though, so you can use 
iTunes to transfer files into your apps.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 28, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> Yes, itunes file sharing is in the current version of itunes.
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 6:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is Itunes file sharing still available in the latest version of Itunes?
> When I looked in the Voice dream reader user guide it spoke about
> choosing Apps and selecting voice dream reader and then selecting the
> file to be transferred.
> 
> I can't find any reference to apps in my current version of Itunes and I
> vaguely remember some discussions on this list about apps being removed
> from Itunes.
> 
> Any help welcome.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On 24/12/2018 16:59, ndagosti...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello:
>> 
>> I have used Dropbox and Google drive and have had success.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
>> Kiehne
>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 10:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream 
>> reader
>> 
>> I use itunes file sharing to tramsfer files into voice dream reader.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 4:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Any advice on the best way to transfer audio books etc onto an Iphone for 
>> use with Voice Dream reader?  I looked at SD card readers with Lightening 
>> connectors but it looks as if these only work for photographs and not files 
>> of other formats.
>> 
>> Any pointers to podcasts on doing the transfer would be useful.
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
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Re: Some Questions for Apple Watch Owners

[Jennie Facer]

Oh I love my AppleWatch like Anna said. I use it for mail also. I am a 
moderator of a group, and it helps me keep caught up on messages.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 27, 2018, at 10:53 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I find that I am using my Apple Watch, series 4, much like I used my series
> 2 model.  This is to say, for the most part I keep it in silent mode using
> it, primarily for notifications of news and text messages that take place on
> the phone.  The only other aspect of the watch that I use is for the
> pedometer app, in my case, Fit Port.  
> 
> I use the modular watch face with  timer, Fit Port, Weather, battery level,
> and heart rate as the complications.  
> 
> I have Hay Siri disabled and the watch unlocks when I unlock my iPhone.  I
> also have wrist detection enabled.  
> 
> I find that I frequently answer the phone on the watch, switching back to
> the phone somewhere during the conversation.  This is only when I am at
> home.  
> 
> Although I love my AirPods, I have not yet attempted to use them with the
> series 4 as doing so back on my series 2 was less than reliable.  
> 
> Having said all of this I have the following questions:
> 
> 1.
> What watch face do you primarily use and with what complications?  
> 
> 2.
> Have you replied to, or composed text messages on the watch, when out in
> public, without using AirPods?  
> 
> 3.
> Have you used the workout app on the watch?  If so, can one easily locate
> the number of steps taken  at any point in time?  
> 
> I have some hearing loss so, when I'm out and about, I must raise the watch
> up to my face in order to hear VoiceOver, unless I use my AirPods.
> 
> Without being provocative, I guess I'm trying to understand why a VoiceOver
> user would want to compose/reply to a text message on the watch, rather than
> doing so on the phone, especially if one has access to both?  
> 
> Somehow, I think I'm missing something as, to my way of thinking, working on
> the phone is easier than working on the watch.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'm just putting this out there and hoping someone will
> explain the advantages of using the watch instead of the phone for texting
> and emailing.
> 
> As for me, I find that my arm gets tired if I attempt to do too many things
> at once, on the watch, especially when I'm out and about.
> 
> I know several sighted Apple Watch 4 users who enjoy using their watch on
> the LTE network as this provides freedom from having to carry the phone with
> them, for example when down at the beach.  
> 
> Now I have the LTE model but, currently, cannot imagine using the watch in
> place of the phone, even temporarily.  This is why I have not yet activated
> the LTE service on my series 4.
> 
> Question 4.
> Do any of you use your LTE watch independently from your phone, with
> VoiceOver?  
> 
> Please know that I am eager to learn how better to use my watch so I'm
> looking forward to reading all replies.
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to contribute to this thread.
> 
> Mark 
> 
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Re: Some Questions for Apple Watch Owners

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Mark,

I love using my watch to answer texts if I'm in the middle of something, like 
washing dishes. A message comes in, I read it, double-tap Dictate, speak my 
reply, and choose Send. Then I keep doing what I'm doing until the next text 
comes in. it's a smoother process than having to wipe my hands and take my 
phone out every time. I do some text message dictating while out and about, and 
usually it works fine. Sometimes I have to use the phone, though, if dictation 
isn't working properly. In general, though, dealing with one piece of equipment 
is easier than two. I rarely use the watch for email though.

I usually use a modular face. I like the app Activity++, which speaks my move 
progress in terms of number of calories, number of stand hours, and exercise 
minutes when I tap the complication.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 27, 2018, at 11:53 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I find that I am using my Apple Watch, series 4, much like I used my series
> 2 model.  This is to say, for the most part I keep it in silent mode using
> it, primarily for notifications of news and text messages that take place on
> the phone.  The only other aspect of the watch that I use is for the
> pedometer app, in my case, Fit Port.  
> 
> I use the modular watch face with  timer, Fit Port, Weather, battery level,
> and heart rate as the complications.  
> 
> I have Hay Siri disabled and the watch unlocks when I unlock my iPhone.  I
> also have wrist detection enabled.  
> 
> I find that I frequently answer the phone on the watch, switching back to
> the phone somewhere during the conversation.  This is only when I am at
> home.  
> 
> Although I love my AirPods, I have not yet attempted to use them with the
> series 4 as doing so back on my series 2 was less than reliable.  
> 
> Having said all of this I have the following questions:
> 
> 1.
> What watch face do you primarily use and with what complications?  
> 
> 2.
> Have you replied to, or composed text messages on the watch, when out in
> public, without using AirPods?  
> 
> 3.
> Have you used the workout app on the watch?  If so, can one easily locate
> the number of steps taken  at any point in time?  
> 
> I have some hearing loss so, when I'm out and about, I must raise the watch
> up to my face in order to hear VoiceOver, unless I use my AirPods.
> 
> Without being provocative, I guess I'm trying to understand why a VoiceOver
> user would want to compose/reply to a text message on the watch, rather than
> doing so on the phone, especially if one has access to both?  
> 
> Somehow, I think I'm missing something as, to my way of thinking, working on
> the phone is easier than working on the watch.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'm just putting this out there and hoping someone will
> explain the advantages of using the watch instead of the phone for texting
> and emailing.
> 
> As for me, I find that my arm gets tired if I attempt to do too many things
> at once, on the watch, especially when I'm out and about.
> 
> I know several sighted Apple Watch 4 users who enjoy using their watch on
> the LTE network as this provides freedom from having to carry the phone with
> them, for example when down at the beach.  
> 
> Now I have the LTE model but, currently, cannot imagine using the watch in
> place of the phone, even temporarily.  This is why I have not yet activated
> the LTE service on my series 4.
> 
> Question 4.
> Do any of you use your LTE watch independently from your phone, with
> VoiceOver?  
> 
> Please know that I am eager to learn how better to use my watch so I'm
> looking forward to reading all replies.
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to contribute to this thread.
> 
> Mark 
> 
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Screen becomes unresponsive during phone calls

[Richard Turner]

Is it still a problem if it is more like 18 inches away?

It really sounds like the proximity sensor is being triggered for some reason.

Maybe take a dry, microfiber cloth and really scrub back and forth with it over 
that area of the screen and see if that helps.

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Screen becomes unresponsive during phone calls

The phone is maybe ten or twelve inches from my face when this happens and I am 
holding the phone by the edges so my finger is not covering the ear opening. I 
have successfully entered numbers before, just not since this last update.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On Dec 27, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
How far is the phone from your face when you are trying to do this?
I've not had any problems, but I also never keep the phone near my face. Also, 
make sure your hand isn't covering the top portion of the phone where the 
status bar area is because that activates the sensor that puts the sound 
through the little earpiece at the top of the screen.
HTH,
Richard


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which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

On Dec 27, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Kimberly 
mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'll definitely do that. It seems I've only had this issue since the last 
update.


Kim
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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on.—Annie Proulx

On Dec 27, 2018, at 6:19 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
The same thing happened to me yesterday and today, ironically, on calls from 
Apple Accessibility. When I eventually got through by it working the third time 
they called, the representative couldn’t find others as having reported this, 
nor could she find any good help in her support pages.

Maybe let Apple Accessibility know. Keith

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Screen becomes unresponsive during phone calls

Hi,

recently i have noticed that the screen on my iphone 7 becomes totally 
unresponsive during phone calls. For example, when presented with a choice of 
numbers to enter --  press 1 for this, press 2 for that --  I am unable to 
detect the number pad or anything else on the screen. I'm told by a sighted 
friend that the number pad is present, but voiceover is completely 
unresponsive. When this happens, I cannot even double tap to end the call.

Any thoughts?

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Screen becomes unresponsive during phone calls

[Kimberly]

The phone is maybe ten or twelve inches from my face when this happens and I am 
holding the phone by the edges so my finger is not covering the ear opening. I 
have successfully entered numbers before, just not since this last update. 



Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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on.—Annie Proulx

> On Dec 27, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> How far is the phone from your face when you are trying to do this?
> I've not had any problems, but I also never keep the phone near my face. 
> Also, make sure your hand isn't covering the top portion of the phone where 
> the status bar area is because that activates the sensor that puts the sound 
> through the little earpiece at the top of the screen.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
>> I'll definitely do that. It seems I've only had this issue since the last 
>> update. 
>> 
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
>> On Dec 27, 2018, at 6:19 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> The same thing happened to me yesterday and today, ironically, on calls 
>>> from Apple Accessibility. When I eventually got through by it working the 
>>> third time they called, the representative couldn’t find others as having 
>>> reported this, nor could she find any good help in her support pages.
>>>  
>>> Maybe let Apple Accessibility know. Keith
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Kimberly
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 2:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Screen becomes unresponsive during phone calls
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> recently i have noticed that the screen on my iphone 7 becomes totally 
>>> unresponsive during phone calls. For example, when presented with a choice 
>>> of numbers to enter --  press 1 for this, press 2 for that --  I am unable 
>>> to detect the number pad or anything else on the screen. I'm told by a 
>>> sighted friend that the number pad is present, but voiceover is completely 
>>> unresponsive. When this happens, I cannot even double tap to end the call. 
>>>  
>>> Any thoughts?  
>>>  
>>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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>>> we go on.—Annie Proulx
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Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader

[Russ Kiehne]

Yes, itunes file sharing is in the current version of itunes.

-Original Message- 
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream 
reader


Hi,

Is Itunes file sharing still available in the latest version of Itunes?
When I looked in the Voice dream reader user guide it spoke about
choosing Apps and selecting voice dream reader and then selecting the
file to be transferred.

I can't find any reference to apps in my current version of Itunes and I
vaguely remember some discussions on this list about apps being removed
from Itunes.

Any help welcome.


Gary


On 24/12/2018 16:59, ndagosti...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello:

I have used Dropbox and Google drive and have had success.



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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream 
reader


I use itunes file sharing to tramsfer files into voice dream reader.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader

Hi all,

Any advice on the best way to transfer audio books etc onto an Iphone for 
use with Voice Dream reader?  I looked at SD card readers with Lightening 
connectors but it looks as if these only work for photographs and not 
files of other formats.


Any pointers to podcasts on doing the transfer would be useful.


Many thanks


Gary


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Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader

['Gary Robinson' via VIPhone]

Hi,

Is Itunes file sharing still available in the latest version of Itunes?  
When I looked in the Voice dream reader user guide it spoke about 
choosing Apps and selecting voice dream reader and then selecting the 
file to be transferred.


I can't find any reference to apps in my current version of Itunes and I 
vaguely remember some discussions on this list about apps being removed  
from Itunes.


Any help welcome.


Gary


On 24/12/2018 16:59, ndagosti...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello:

I have used Dropbox and Google drive and have had success.



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Kiehne
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader

I use itunes file sharing to tramsfer files into voice dream reader.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring files onto an Iphone for use with Voice Dream reader

Hi all,

Any advice on the best way to transfer audio books etc onto an Iphone for use 
with Voice Dream reader?  I looked at SD card readers with Lightening 
connectors but it looks as if these only work for photographs and not files of 
other formats.

Any pointers to podcasts on doing the transfer would be useful.


Many thanks


Gary


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Re: Amazon Echo Definitely Better than Apple HomePod, in One Respect

[Russ Kiehne]

   Perhaps the following will help

Annual Smart Speaker IQ Test
Loup Ventures asked the four digital assistants 800 questions each and 
explains the results, comparing to previous years:

http://bit.ly/2CB0mYE

-Original Message- 
From: Ed Worrell

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 2:13 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Amazon Echo Definitely Better than Apple HomePod, in One 
Respect


Hey Mary,

I’m glad to hear someone on my side of the fence for once. It seems that the 
internet seems to hate Apple for the sake of hating Apple. The HomePod in my 
eyes will never be what Amazon has made the Echo system. I am personally ok 
with that too. It was created to be a home speaker system to listen to your 
music, podcasts, and even news related topics. I love it for the simplicity. 
Of course you can also check the weather, set timers, etc. It does all of 
this just like the Echo system of speakers. The skills that are in the Echo 
store are simply to cheesy for me to take seriously. The only skill I am 
looking forward to is the MLB skill to tell Alexa to listen to the Atlanta 
Braves this season. I think I might be able to accomplish this task with the 
HomePod and the Siri short cut for the MLB @Bat app too. We will have to 
wait and see.



Ed


On Dec 27, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I agree with you, Ed. I own a couple of echoes. Generally, I find that the 
Alexa system is horrible with respect to giving the information I actually 
need or could use, outside of the weather and a little bit of news 
briefing. and most of the skills are junk games and other Time wasters. 
That said, I do appreciate the echo for the easy access to SiriusXM and to 
its ability for reading  kindle or audible books while I exercise. I’m not 
into the automated so-called smart home, so I have no comment on HomePod 
or echo in that regard. But as a music listening sores, the HomePods kill 
the echoes. They should, they are more expensive. I have a pair of 
HomePods that I got when the price came down to $500 for the pair. They 
sound almost as good as my wonderful  floorstanding stereo speakers it 
cost me over twice what I paid for the HomePods. I would never consider 
any pair of echoes as any sort of real hi-fi system even for moderately 
good audio quality listening.



Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 27, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:

I have both an Apple HomePod and an Echo Dot connected to Bose speakers. 
I am not sure why everyone thinks the HomePod is so far behind on 
 “skills”. The HomePod is a far better device, Now with Siri short cuts 
you can use third party apps to do things from the HomePod. I find the 
Apple speaker much simpler to use than the Amazon Echo. You have to 
remember very specific application names and commands to use the Echo’s 3 
million fart applications. The skills on the Echo aren’t that impressive 
to me. It’s next to impossible to set up using the app, you almost always 
have to use the internet browser on a computer for full access to the 
settings.


JMO

Ed Worrell


On Dec 24, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

The home pod is behind both the Echo and Google home in many respects. 
Even with general features, the home pod is really lacking, and I think 
you can now play Apple music on the echo so there is little reason to 
get a home pod. Hopefully Apple will catch up but they have a ways to 
go.



On Dec 23, 2018, at 5:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

You know, one of the most popular request made to both Apple and Amazon 
is

that they provide independent sound equalizer support for their
music/speaker devices.

When I purchased my first Echo device, a while ago, this feature was 
not

available.  The same was true for HomePod.

However, recently, this feature has now been added to the Echo 
interface,
under audio from within the Settings area of the Alexa app.  This is 
very,

very nice.

However, Apple has not added this feature to HomePod.   At least, if it 
has,

I have not been abel to locate it in the HomePod interface.

And yes, I know there is a general sound equalizer, of sort, in the iOS
settings area of the music app but, hereto, Apple falls short as these
options are merely presets, not true customizable controls.  Moreover, 
one
should not have to adjust the sound levels for an entire operating 
system in

order to customize the sound setting for one specific device that is
marketed as an entertainment listening device.

Besides, it's ridiculous to pay over $300 for a speaker and not have 
the

ability to adjust its sound settings, independently.

I have owned my HomePod for over a year or so, I think, and have only 
used

it 3 times because there is just too much bass, for my liking.

With the overwhelming success of Echo, you'd think that Apple would 
realize

that, especially when it comes to hearing, as well as vision, one size
definitely does not fit all.

Just some venting, on my part.

Mark

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