Re: Battery Level Alarms

[blindathlete10]

Ghi, If you are talking about the article I posted a few days ago, it's talking 
about a feature in iOS 13. 
If memory serves me right, at night you battery will only charge up to 80% 
until it's close to the time you wake up.
Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
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On Jun 21, 2019, at 12:30 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Shucks, when I composed the original e-mail I was so wrapped up in the thought 
of user customizable alarm levels I completely forgot about the “Low Battery 
Alarm” for 20% and 10%.

It would be nice if there was a way to set alarm for the battery charge rising 
above a specific level since that article was quite adamant that the phone 
should not be left on a charge at 100%.

Ah shucks, I’m quite chagrined at my fax pax!



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- “Dear Optimist, Pecimist and Realist”
- “While you were arguing over whether the glass was half full or half empty, I 
drank it.”
- Signed, The Opportunist



On Jun 20, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Holly  wrote:

I have an iPhone 7, and it alerts me when the battery gets to 20%, but that is 
the only alert.  No alert that tells you the battery is at high levels, as far 
as I know. 
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Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

[Pete Nalda]

Oh, come on!  The world isn’t so black and white!  
Low vision people might use voiceover and even invoke screen curtain. 

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> On Jun 20, 2019, at 4:05 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard and Janet,
> I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all 
> those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO 
> on to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have 
> not ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using 
> screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black.
> Mr. Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
> from this list)
>  
> I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our 
> experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to 
> using a phone where Voiceover is turned on.
> I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you 
> can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature 
> which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a 
> stand-alone accessibility feature.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
> gross
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
> from this list)
>  
> Sieghard and all,  
> Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time.  
> I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends 
> using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school 
> teacher using it.  please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this 
> quite often.  I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, 
> and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this 
> screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on 
> or off.  Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is 
> the reason I use the screen curtain feature.  Who knows, but it doesn’t 
> matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature.  
> Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when 
> either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri 
> to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want 
> the kids to see her phone screen.  They might not even realize they are using 
> an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! 
> So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about 
> accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it.  We 
> all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. 
> Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. 
>  
> Janet
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
> from this list)
>  
> I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted 
> people know about the screen curtain?
> I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town 
> where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly 
> folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and 
> that includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales 
> rep to show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to 
> show to my employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a 
> picture when Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to 
> double tap a button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture 
> button a few times until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on 
> the screen curtain, but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, 
> your phone is off” or “your screen doesn’t work”.
> I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted 
> people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain 
> on and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time 
> which is displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course 
> get lucky and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have 
> told them about the screen curtain feature which does not exist for sighted 
> people and is completely a foreign concept for them.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 

Re: Battery Level Alarms

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

Shucks, when I composed the original e-mail I was so wrapped up in the thought 
of user customizable alarm levels I completely forgot about the “Low Battery 
Alarm” for 20% and 10%.

It would be nice if there was a way to set alarm for the battery charge rising 
above a specific level since that article was quite adamant that the phone 
should not be left on a charge at 100%.

Ah shucks, I’m quite chagrined at my fax pax!



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- “Dear Optimist, Pecimist and Realist”
- “While you were arguing over whether the glass was half full or half empty, I 
drank it.”
- Signed, The Opportunist



On Jun 20, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Holly  wrote:

I have an iPhone 7, and it alerts me when the battery gets to 20%, but that is 
the only alert.  No alert that tells you the battery is at high levels, as far 
as I know. 
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Re: Battery Level Alarms

[Holly]

I have an iPhone 7, and it alerts me when the battery gets to 20%, but that 
is the only alert.  No alert that tells you the battery is at high levels, 
as far as I know. 


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Battery Level Alarms

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

Can anyone on this list tell me if there is a way to set audible alarms to 
alert someone to high and low battery levels?

I ask this in deference to an earlier thread and web page article advising that 
batteries should not be left to charge to 100% and really ought not be allowed 
to drain to 0.  It would be nice if, for instance, there were provisions in the 
Battery settings dialog to set audible alarms when the battery level rises to a 
pre-determined level (Oh, I don’t know - maybe say 80%) and another alarm 
setting that would warn of a low threshold (maybe 20%).  This would certainly 
help me know when to put the phone on a charge and when I might want to remove 
it from charging.

Just a thought!



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Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that changedeverything

[Holly Anderson]

Hi, it’s a stand alone documentary, but she is going to release it on her 
parallel podcast feed. Not sure of the url off the top of my head. but if you 
search for parallel podcast in your pod catcher of choice that should get you 
there. It’s not there yet, but will be soon.
HTH
Holly

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wish I knew.They refer to it as a podcast, but it may be a stand-alone 
> recording.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
> 
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Jun 20, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Gerardo Corripio  > wrote:
> 
>> OH OK yes thanks! But now you got me curious, what’s the URL so I can 
>> subscribe to this podcast via the Native podcast app for instance? I imagine 
>> she has other interesting stuff aside from the documenary in question? I 
>> tried searching for Shellys Podcast, but no luck.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 20 jun 2019, a la(s) 4:25 p. m., Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:
>> 
>>> Here is the direct link to the podcast.  You should also be able to 
>>> download this with a computer.
>>>  
>>> http://traffic.libsyn.com/shellyspodcastgr8vey/36_Seconds_That_Changed_Everything_Shelly_Brisbin.mp3
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> If that didn’t work, here is the link to the web page:
>>> http://www.36seconds.org/about-36-seconds/ 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
>>> 
>>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Gerardo Corripio >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, but it gave me an HTML download page instead of the MP3 of 
 thedocumentary. Any other suggestions?
  

Enviado desde Correo 
 
  para Windows 10
  
 De: Anna Dresner 
 Enviado: jueves, 20 de junio de 2019 03:53 p. m.
 Para: VIPhone Mailing List 
 Asunto: Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that 
 changedeverything
  
 Hi,
  
 I was able to download it on my Mac. Did you try right-clicking it in a 
 computer browser and choosing Download Linked File or Save As?
  
 Best,
 Anna
  
 
 
 On Jun 20, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Gerardo Corripio >>> > wrote:
  
Anyone happen to have been able to download 
 the documentary “36 Seconds that Changed Everything”? I was listening to 
 it online, but it got cut off, and I’d like to be able to have an MP3 
 version so I can put it onto my Sansa MP3 player and listen to it, a

RE: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi,

 

Got it.  Thanks.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Whitehead
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

 

read about it here:

 

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/halide-camera/id885697368

 

   The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a 
dream.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Edward 
Przybylek
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

 

Hi Holly,

 

Who is the developer of Halide?  I searched for the app in the app store and 
found the app.  There is no mention of triggering the phone shutter with a 
shortcut and your voice.  Thank you.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

 

Forgot to tell you the name of the camera app.  It is Halide.

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Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Arlene]

which phone is that, carolyn?
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard


On the Phones for the Blind list, Judy Jones posted about a new Android 
phone coming out in July that sounds really blind friendly with Android Pie. 
It costs $649, which, for what all her post described, I can understand why. 
I am satisfied with my iPhone, it does what and when I need, but it's a big 
world, and there are some that would like the phone. Also, it has a slider 
qwerty keyboard, so that one wouldn't have to press 2 three times for c and 
so forth.


Best regards,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

Its another logitech.  I think its a 600 something.  What I heard about it, 
I liked the description that I was told about it.  Any kind of bluetooth 
wireless keyboard I'm not going to get at the moment anyway.  My phone isn't 
working that well.  I'm just going to use my phone to make and receive 
calls.  My phone can't connect to our wireless network at the moment for 
some reason even though I know what our password should be.  If it wasn't 
for an important phone call I get each month, I probably wouldn't have 
gotten an iPhone in the first place after my flip phone died.  I would have 
gotten another flip phone.  Although it is getting harder and harder to get 
those kinds of phones.  I'm going to get my plan downgraded to the least 
amount of data I can which is 500 megs.  As long as I can make and receive 
calls and send and receive text messages, I'm good.


On 6/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what
way do you think it will work better?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another
keyboard that sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to
wait a bit before getting any bluetooth keyboard.

On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:

HI,
I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I
took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only
thing I did like
about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.
If you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and
heavy compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad
if you want one of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it
is only about $22 and can be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the
iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
Merv


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: will be sending back my logitech keyboard

Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard  and
it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in my
USB dongle.
 I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and tried to pair
it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I bought this
keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going to talk to
apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into settings and
tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep typing in my
passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though I typed in
my passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive
calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good
thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very
much.
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Re: Zip files on voice dream reader

[l . d . ethier23]

It's easier to download in icloud drive!

Lyne

> Le 20 juin 2019 à 13:06, Richard Turner  a écrit 
> :
> 
> 
> First, what kind of content is in the zip files?
> Second, are you exporting from Dropbox, or adding from Voice Dream Reader?
> My experience is that it is easier to setup Dropbox as a content source in 
> VDR, and add from it like you would with Bookshare.
> Richard
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> On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:23 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all
>> 
>> I found out that I  have some zip files in a dropbox Folder   I tried to 
>> export it to voice dream reader but vdr shows error next to the file name in 
>> the file list. What would be the best way to convert it in a format that vDR 
>> can read it?
>> Thank you for your suggestion. 
>> TP
>> 
>> 
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Siri and reading and reply to email

[Richard Turner]

Carolyn asked about getting Siri to read and reply to email.
It used to do that.
Now, it seems to only read the who, what, when, info and cannot seem to read 
the text.
Perhaps a call, or a thousand to Apple?
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RE: have a quick question about listening to voice mails

[Carolyn Arnold]

What I'd like to know is how do you get Siri to read an email, then do a reply, 
then go on to the next one? Can that work? I haven't figured out how. 

Best regards,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: have a quick question about listening to voice mails

Hi Richard,

How do you get Siri to play your voice mail. I did not know you could do that. 
By the way I have had the same gripe about not being able to hear voice mail 
and getting it on the speaker.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: have a quick question about listening to voice mails

 

 

This is one of my few pet-peeves about the iPhone. 

There is a speaker button on the screen once you start the voice mail playing, 
but it is a little tricky to find and double tap on it so you miss the first 
part of the voice mail.

I either use siri to play the voice Mail and put the phone right up against my 
ear to hear it, or make sure I have earphones on before playing the voice mail.

Perhaps this will be finally fixed in iOS 13.

Richard

 

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any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:42 AM, Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi to all.  I was pleasantly surprised to find that when I got my new
phone, that my original voice mail greeting I'd recorded on my old
flip phone was transferred to this phone.  However, I'm having a
slight problem when it comes to listening to any voice mails I get.  I
can easily be alerted when I receive any missed call.  But when it
comes to listening to the voice mail, I can barely hear it.  I'm not
sure what setting to check to raise the volume of my voice mail.
Thanks for any help.

-- 
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RE: To Joshua. Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Carolyn Arnold]

I think that phone sells for about $599.00 over here. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Dave
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Joshua. Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

Hi Joshua. Sounds like you could do with one on one training, if you can get it.

If you really don't want an iPhone, and want something very basic, which has 
speech, and easy to use. Then see if you can get hold of the capsis mini vision.

In the UK, it retails for about 300 pounds.

Please don't get this mixed up, with the capsis smart vision phones, as they 
are more advanced.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

Its another logitech.  I think its a 600 something.  What I heard about it, I 
liked the description that I was told about it.  Any kind of bluetooth wireless 
keyboard I'm not going to get at the moment anyway.  My phone isn't working 
that well.  I'm just going to use my phone to make and receive calls.  My phone 
can't connect to our wireless network at the moment for some reason even though 
I know what our password should be.  If it wasn't for an important phone call I 
get each month, I probably wouldn't have gotten an iPhone in the first place 
after my flip phone died.  I would have gotten another flip phone.  Although it 
is getting harder and harder to get those kinds of phones.  I'm going to get my 
plan downgraded to the least amount of data I can which is 500 megs.  As long 
as I can make and receive calls and send and receive text messages, I'm good.

On 6/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what 
> way do you think it will work better?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>
> I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another keyboard 
> that
> sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to wait a bit before
> getting any bluetooth keyboard.
>
> On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:
>> HI,
>> I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I
>> took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only thing I
>> did like
>> about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
>> numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.  If
>> you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
>> Janet
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Merv Keck
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>>
>> You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and
>> heavy compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad
>> if you want one of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it is
>> only about $22 and can be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the
>> iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
>> Merv
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: will be sending back my logitech keyboard
>>
>> Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard  and
>> it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in my USB
>> dongle.
>>  I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and tried to pair
>> it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I bought this
>> keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going to talk to
>> apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into settings and
>> tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep typing in my
>> passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though I typed in my
>> passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
>> If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive
>> calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good
>> thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very
>> much.
>> --
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>>
>> Joshua Hendrickson
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RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Carolyn Arnold]

I could not get Wi-Fi calling for my 
SE - did factory reset (oh boy, another story), but I have Wi-Fi calling now 
and, BTW, my settings back too. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

If you are 100% or maybe I should say 200% certain you enter the WiFi password 
correctly including upper and lower case characters there is no reason why you 
r iPhone should not connect. You could reboot the router which often solves any 
issues like that, but while I know this has been a bit of a tough transition, I 
assume the iPhone which I think you said is brand-new, probably works perfectly 
and your main problem is that  you are still climbing this somewhat steep 
learning curve which is preventing you to get the most out of your new iPhone.
As for the keyboard, the only Logitech model I could find with 600 in the model 
number is the K600 TV keyboard and it is specifically designed to be used 
together with smart TV's.
It has a touchpad and what is called a D-Pad, on Logitech's website it says 
"Everything you need to navigate your Smart TV or PC connected to the TV. 
Search, select, and control your content with the familiar typing experience, 
fluid gestures of the touchpad, or the point-by-point precision of the D-Pad."
If that is indeed the model you had in mind I'd seriously reconsider, I doubt 
the touchpad and whatever this D-Pad is are useable for a blind person, the 
pairing process is identical to any other Logitech keyboard, i.e. press and 
hold one of the easy switch keys, wait until it shows up in your list of 
Bluetooth devices on the phone, tap it and enter the pairing code on the 
keyboard. On this keyboard you afterwards also need to tell the keyboard that 
you use iOS otherwise some of the keys won't work and it's all around not meant 
to be a phone keyboard. It's still a bit over 14 inches wide and 4.6 inches 
deep and weights a pound, yes, lighter than the K780, but if you want a smaller 
Bluetooth keyboard without numeric pad then the K480 which many others 
recommended would be much better and less expensive.


 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

Its another logitech.  I think its a 600 something.  What I heard about it, I 
liked the description that I was told about it.  Any kind of bluetooth wireless 
keyboard I'm not going to get at the moment anyway.  My phone isn't working 
that well.  I'm just going to use my phone to make and receive calls.  My phone 
can't connect to our wireless network at the moment for some reason even though 
I know what our password should be.  If it wasn't for an important phone call I 
get each month, I probably wouldn't have gotten an iPhone in the first place 
after my flip phone died.  I would have gotten another flip phone.  Although it 
is getting harder and harder to get those kinds of phones.  I'm going to get my 
plan downgraded to the least amount of data I can which is 500 megs.  As long 
as I can make and receive calls and send and receive text messages, I'm good.

On 6/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what 
> way do you think it will work better?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>
> I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another 
> keyboard that sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to 
> wait a bit before getting any bluetooth keyboard.
>
> On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:
>> HI,
>> I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I 
>> took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only 
>> thing I did like
>> about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
>> numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.  
>> If you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
>> Janet
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Merv Keck
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>>
>> You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and 
>> heavy compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad 
>> if you want one of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it 
>> is only about $22 and can be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the 
>> iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
>> Merv
>>

Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that changedeverything

[Richard Turner]

I wish I knew.They refer to it as a podcast, but it may be a stand-alone 
recording.
Richard


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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


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any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 20, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

OH OK yes thanks! But now you got me curious, what’s the URL so I can subscribe 
to this podcast via the Native podcast app for instance? I imagine she has 
other interesting stuff aside from the documenary in question? I tried 
searching for Shellys Podcast, but no luck.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 20 jun 2019, a la(s) 4:25 p. m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

Here is the direct link to the podcast.  You should also be able to download 
this with a computer.

http://traffic.libsyn.com/shellyspodcastgr8vey/36_Seconds_That_Changed_Everything_Shelly_Brisbin.mp3

If that didn’t work, here is the link to the web page:
http://www.36seconds.org/about-36-seconds/



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On Jun 20, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, but it gave me an HTML download page instead of the MP3 of thedocumentary. 
Any other suggestions?


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De: Anna Dresner
Enviado: jueves, 20 de junio de 2019 03:53 p. m.
Para: VIPhone Mailing List
Asunto: Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that 
changedeverything

Hi,

I was able to download it on my Mac. Did you try right-clicking it in a 
computer browser and choosing Download Linked File or Save As?

Best,
Anna



On Jun 20, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Anyone happen to have been able to download the 
documentary “36 Seconds that Changed Everything”? I was listening to it online, 
but it got cut off, and I’d like to be able to have an MP3 version so I can put 
it onto my Sansa MP3 player and listen to it, and save it; it’s a jewl! Lots of 
interesting history!


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RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Carolyn Arnold]

On the Phones for the Blind list, Judy Jones posted about a new Android phone 
coming out in July that sounds really blind friendly with Android Pie. It costs 
$649, which, for what all her post described, I can understand why. I am 
satisfied with my iPhone, it does what and when I need, but it's a big world, 
and there are some that would like the phone. Also, it has a slider qwerty 
keyboard, so that one wouldn't have to press 2 three times for c and so forth. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

Its another logitech.  I think its a 600 something.  What I heard about it, I 
liked the description that I was told about it.  Any kind of bluetooth wireless 
keyboard I'm not going to get at the moment anyway.  My phone isn't working 
that well.  I'm just going to use my phone to make and receive calls.  My phone 
can't connect to our wireless network at the moment for some reason even though 
I know what our password should be.  If it wasn't for an important phone call I 
get each month, I probably wouldn't have gotten an iPhone in the first place 
after my flip phone died.  I would have gotten another flip phone.  Although it 
is getting harder and harder to get those kinds of phones.  I'm going to get my 
plan downgraded to the least amount of data I can which is 500 megs.  As long 
as I can make and receive calls and send and receive text messages, I'm good.

On 6/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what 
> way do you think it will work better?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>
> I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another 
> keyboard that sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to 
> wait a bit before getting any bluetooth keyboard.
>
> On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:
>> HI,
>> I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I 
>> took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only 
>> thing I did like
>> about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
>> numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.  
>> If you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
>> Janet
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Merv Keck
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>>
>> You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and 
>> heavy compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad 
>> if you want one of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it 
>> is only about $22 and can be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the 
>> iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
>> Merv
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: will be sending back my logitech keyboard
>>
>> Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard  and 
>> it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in my 
>> USB dongle.
>>  I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and tried to pair 
>> it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I bought this 
>> keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going to talk to 
>> apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into settings and 
>> tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep typing in my 
>> passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though I typed in 
>> my passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
>> If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive 
>> calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good 
>> thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very 
>> much.
>> --
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>
>> Joshua Hendrickson
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RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

[Karen Poulakos]

I’m not sure they could even access the screen curtain without first turning on 
Voiceover.

 

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

Hi Sieghard and Janet,

I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all 
those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on 
to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not 
ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using 
screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our 
experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to 
using a phone where Voiceover is turned on.

I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you 
can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature 
which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a 
stand-alone accessibility feature.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

Sieghard and all,  

Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time.  
I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using 
the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using 
it.  please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often.  
I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason 
I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if 
they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off.  Maybe some 
sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the 
screen curtain feature.  Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted 
person wants to use an accessibility feature.  Although, I have noticed most of 
them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or 
like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the 
screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen.  They 
might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want 
to, so be it!  

So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about 
accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it.  We 
all are certainly entitled to our own opinions.  

Please let’s not turn this in to bashing.  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted 
people know about the screen curtain?

I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town 
where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly 
folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that 
includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to 
show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my 
employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when 
Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a 
button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times 
until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, 
but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or 
“your screen doesn’t work”.

I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted 
people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain on 
and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time which is 
displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course get lucky 
and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have told them 
about the screen curtain feature which does not exist for sighted people and is 
completely a foreign concept for them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sig

Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that changedeverything

[Gerardo Corripio]

OH OK yes thanks! But now you got me curious, what’s the URL so I can subscribe 
to this podcast via the Native podcast app for instance? I imagine she has 
other interesting stuff aside from the documenary in question? I tried 
searching for Shellys Podcast, but no luck.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 20 jun 2019, a la(s) 4:25 p. m., Richard Turner 
 escribió:

> Here is the direct link to the podcast.  You should also be able to download 
> this with a computer.
>  
> http://traffic.libsyn.com/shellyspodcastgr8vey/36_Seconds_That_Changed_Everything_Shelly_Brisbin.mp3
>  
> If that didn’t work, here is the link to the web page:
> http://www.36seconds.org/about-36-seconds/
>  
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Jun 20, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, but it gave me an HTML download page instead of the MP3 of 
>> thedocumentary. Any other suggestions?
>>  
>>  
>>  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10
>>  
>> De: Anna Dresner
>> Enviado: jueves, 20 de junio de 2019 03:53 p. m.
>> Para: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Asunto: Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that 
>> changedeverything
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I was able to download it on my Mac. Did you try right-clicking it in a 
>> computer browser and choosing Download Linked File or Save As?
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>  
>>Anyone happen to have been able to download 
>> the documentary “36 Seconds that Changed Everything”? I was listening to it 
>> online, but it got cut off, and I’d like to be able to have an MP3 version 
>> so I can put it onto my Sansa MP3 player and listen to it, and save it; it’s 
>> a jewl! Lots of interesting history!
>>  
>>  
>>  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10
>>  
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RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Indeed. It more sounds like if sighted people are telling you that they’re 
using screen curtain, they’re most likely messing with you.

There’s no real conceivable reason why a sighted person would use this specific 
accessibility related feature for the blind as opposed to say another general 
accessibility one that may lend itself to a more mainstream application. 
Regularly encountering its usage by sighted folks in the wild also sounds  
charitably speaking … implausible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

Hi Sieghard and Janet,

I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all 
those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on 
to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not 
ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using 
screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our 
experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to 
using a phone where Voiceover is turned on.

I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you 
can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature 
which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a 
stand-alone accessibility feature.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

Sieghard and all,  

Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time.  
I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using 
the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using 
it.  please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often.  
I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason 
I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if 
they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off.  Maybe some 
sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the 
screen curtain feature.  Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted 
person wants to use an accessibility feature.  Although, I have noticed most of 
them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or 
like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the 
screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen.  They 
might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want 
to, so be it!  

So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about 
accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it.  We 
all are certainly entitled to our own opinions.  

Please let’s not turn this in to bashing.  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted 
people know about the screen curtain?

I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town 
where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly 
folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that 
includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to 
show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my 
employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when 
Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a 
button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times 
until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, 
but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or 
“your screen doesn’t work”.

I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted 
people where you handed 

Re: have a quick question about listening to voice mails

[Richard Turner]

I just say: Hey Siri, play my new voice mail.
And it plays.
Once you have played a voice mail, it can be a little tricky, but if you can 
say the name of who left the voice mail; like "play my voice mail from Ed."
HTH,
Richard


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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


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any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 20, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Mr. Ed 
mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
How do you get Siri to play your voice mail. I did not know you could do that. 
By the way I have had the same gripe about not being able to hear voice mail 
and getting it on the speaker.
Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: have a quick question about listening to voice mails


This is one of my few pet-peeves about the iPhone.
There is a speaker button on the screen once you start the voice mail playing, 
but it is a little tricky to find and double tap on it so you miss the first 
part of the voice mail.
I either use siri to play the voice Mail and put the phone right up against my 
ear to hear it, or make sure I have earphones on before playing the voice mail.
Perhaps this will be finally fixed in iOS 13.
Richard

Check out my web site at: 
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flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:42 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi to all.  I was pleasantly surprised to find that when I got my new
phone, that my original voice mail greeting I'd recorded on my old
flip phone was transferred to this phone.  However, I'm having a
slight problem when it comes to listening to any voice mails I get.  I
can easily be alerted when I receive any missed call.  But when it
comes to listening to the voice mail, I can barely hear it.  I'm not
sure what setting to check to raise the volume of my voice mail.
Thanks for any help.

--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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[pdllogan77]

Does anyone know of a food scale that will connect to the IPhone and give
readings on the phone?  Just wondering as I need to replace a scale, and was
thinking if available I'd go the smart route.

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Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that changedeverything

[Richard Turner]

Here is the direct link to the podcast.  You should also be able to download 
this with a computer.

http://traffic.libsyn.com/shellyspodcastgr8vey/36_Seconds_That_Changed_Everything_Shelly_Brisbin.mp3

If that didn’t work, here is the link to the web page:
http://www.36seconds.org/about-36-seconds/



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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 20, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, but it gave me an HTML download page instead of the MP3 of thedocumentary. 
Any other suggestions?


  Enviado desde 
Correo para Windows 10

De: Anna Dresner
Enviado: jueves, 20 de junio de 2019 03:53 p. m.
Para: VIPhone Mailing List
Asunto: Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that 
changedeverything

Hi,

I was able to download it on my Mac. Did you try right-clicking it in a 
computer browser and choosing Download Linked File or Save As?

Best,
Anna



On Jun 20, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Anyone happen to have been able to download the 
documentary “36 Seconds that Changed Everything”? I was listening to it online, 
but it got cut off, and I’d like to be able to have an MP3 version so I can put 
it onto my Sansa MP3 player and listen to it, and save it; it’s a jewl! Lots of 
interesting history!


  Enviado desde 
Correo para Windows 10


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"3076 3D" is about the only game puzzle I took to.

- Original Message - 
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Subject: games to play


please can anybody suggest some games you can play on your iPhone online with 
sighted people?  hope there are some,  Janet

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RE: Smart bathroom scales

[Mr. Ed]

I only have one thing to say about these talking bathroom scales. They all lie 
about my weight. LOL 😊

Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart bathroom scales

 

Qardio makes a very reliable scale with a very accessible app. Please note the 
spelling if you intend to search it out on Amazon. The scale is actually called 
the Qardio Base.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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On Jun 19, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I've read that the Qardio smart scale works well, and that the app is 
accessible, just as the case with the Qardio Arm BP machine.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Traci Duncan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:50 AM
Subject: Smart bathroom scales


Hi folks, I’ve been thinking about buying a smart scale. It might be time for 
my old talking scale to be retired.

Do you have any specific recommendations? What apps do they connect to? How 
much privacy do I have using them? If multiple members of the household are 
using them, do we all know each other‘s weight? LOL!

Thanks for the guidance,
Traci

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RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Sieghard and Janet,

I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all 
those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on 
to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not 
ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using 
screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our 
experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to 
using a phone where Voiceover is turned on.

I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you 
can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature 
which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a 
stand-alone accessibility feature.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

Sieghard and all,  

Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time.  
I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using 
the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using 
it.  please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often.  
I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason 
I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if 
they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off.  Maybe some 
sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the 
screen curtain feature.  Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted 
person wants to use an accessibility feature.  Although, I have noticed most of 
them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or 
like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the 
screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen.  They 
might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want 
to, so be it!  

So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about 
accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it.  We 
all are certainly entitled to our own opinions.  

Please let’s not turn this in to bashing.  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted 
people know about the screen curtain?

I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town 
where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly 
folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that 
includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to 
show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my 
employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when 
Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a 
button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times 
until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, 
but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or 
“your screen doesn’t work”.

I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted 
people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain on 
and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time which is 
displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course get lucky 
and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have told them 
about the screen curtain feature which does not exist for sighted people and is 
completely a foreign concept for them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

 

Hi Marcio, 

How do you know sighted people don’t know about Screen Curtain?? I think you 
and others  are sadly mistaken when you think sighted people don’t know 
anything about the Screen Curtain?, but each to their own!  LOL! 

Janet 

 

From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mail

RE: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that changedeverything

[Gerardo Corripio]

Yes, but it gave me an HTML download page instead of the MP3 of thedocumentary. 
Any other suggestions? 


  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

De: Anna Dresner
Enviado: jueves, 20 de junio de 2019 03:53 p. m.
Para: VIPhone Mailing List
Asunto: Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that 
changedeverything

Hi,

I was able to download it on my Mac. Did you try right-clicking it in a 
computer browser and choosing Download Linked File or Save As?

Best,
Anna



On Jun 20, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

   Anyone happen to have been able to download the 
documentary “36 Seconds that Changed Everything”? I was listening to it online, 
but it got cut off, and I’d like to be able to have an MP3 version so I can put 
it onto my Sansa MP3 player and listen to it, and save it; it’s a jewl! Lots of 
interesting history!
 

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RE: have a quick question about listening to voice mails

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Richard,

How do you get Siri to play your voice mail. I did not know you could do that. 
By the way I have had the same gripe about not being able to hear voice mail 
and getting it on the speaker.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: have a quick question about listening to voice mails

 

 

This is one of my few pet-peeves about the iPhone. 

There is a speaker button on the screen once you start the voice mail playing, 
but it is a little tricky to find and double tap on it so you miss the first 
part of the voice mail.

I either use siri to play the voice Mail and put the phone right up against my 
ear to hear it, or make sure I have earphones on before playing the voice mail.

Perhaps this will be finally fixed in iOS 13.

Richard

 

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On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:42 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Hi to all.  I was pleasantly surprised to find that when I got my new
phone, that my original voice mail greeting I'd recorded on my old
flip phone was transferred to this phone.  However, I'm having a
slight problem when it comes to listening to any voice mails I get.  I
can easily be alerted when I receive any missed call.  But when it
comes to listening to the voice mail, I can barely hear it.  I'm not
sure what setting to check to raise the volume of my voice mail.
Thanks for any help.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that changed everything

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I was able to download it on my Mac. Did you try right-clicking it in a 
computer browser and choosing Download Linked File or Save As?

Best,
Anna


> On Jun 20, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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>Anyone happen to have been able to download 
> the documentary “36 Seconds that Changed Everything”? I was listening to it 
> online, but it got cut off, and I’d like to be able to have an MP3 version so 
> I can put it onto my Sansa MP3 player and listen to it, and save it; it’s a 
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Can't download the iPhone documentary of 36 seconds that changed everything

[Gerardo Corripio]

Anyone happen to have been able to download the documentary “36 
Seconds that Changed Everything”? I was listening to it online, but it got cut 
off, and I’d like to be able to have an MP3 version so I can put it onto my 
Sansa MP3 player and listen to it, and save it; it’s a jewl! Lots of 
interesting history!


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Re: games to play

[Donna]

Game world, RS Games & Dice World has chat feature. 

Donna
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> please can anybody suggest some games you can play on your iPhone online with 
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RE: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

[David Whitehead]

read about it here:

 

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/halide-camera/id885697368

 

   The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a 
dream.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Edward 
Przybylek
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

 

Hi Holly,

 

Who is the developer of Halide?  I searched for the app in the app store and 
found the app.  There is no mention of triggering the phone shutter with a 
shortcut and your voice.  Thank you.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

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Forgot to tell you the name of the camera app.  It is Halide.

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Re: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

[Holly]

No, it is $5.99

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Re: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

[Holly]

Here is a link to the features of the app, including the Siri shortcuts.  

I paid $5.99 for it and it works great!

You need to go into settings, then advanced settings and there you will find 
the shortcuts.

https://thesweetsetup.com/halide-camera-hits-1-9-brings-new-iphone-support-siri-shortcuts/

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Re: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

Is it a free app?

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Edward Przybylek  
> wrote:
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> Hi Holly,
>  
> Who is the developer of Halide?  I searched for the app in the app store and 
> found the app.  There is no mention of triggering the phone shutter with a 
> shortcut and your voice.  Thank you.
>  
> Take care,
> Ed Przybylek
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RE: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi Holly,

 

Who is the developer of Halide?  I searched for the app in the app store and 
found the app.  There is no mention of triggering the phone shutter with a 
shortcut and your voice.  Thank you.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

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Forgot to tell you the name of the camera app.  It is Halide.

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Re: Zip files on voice dream reader

[Richard Turner]

perhaps redownloading the book from Bookshare? It may be a password issue with 
that file; who knows.
Or, it is simply corrupt.
Too many variables.
I hope you get it somehow.
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On Jun 20, 2019, at 11:20 AM, TaraPrakash 
mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> wrote:

One of the zip files was also a book share book.
I have added dropbox as a  source on the voice dream reader. It Does  copy the 
book but  still shows not available  when you touch it in the list and  error 
next to it



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First, what kind of content is in the zip files?
Second, are you exporting from Dropbox, or adding from Voice Dream Reader?
My experience is that it is easier to setup Dropbox as a content source in VDR, 
and add from it like you would with Bookshare.
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Hello all

I found out that I  have some zip files in a dropbox Folder   I tried to export 
it to voice dream reader but vdr shows error next to the file name in the file 
list. What would be the best way to convert it in a format that vDR can read it?
Thank you for your suggestion.
TP


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Re: Zip files on voice dream reader

[TaraPrakash]

One of the zip files was also a book share book. 
I have added dropbox as a  source on the voice dream reader. It Does  copy the 
book but  still shows not available  when you touch it in the list and  error 
next to it
  


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> My experience is that it is easier to setup Dropbox as a content source in 
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> Richard
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>> Hello all
>> 
>> I found out that I  have some zip files in a dropbox Folder   I tried to 
>> export it to voice dream reader but vdr shows error next to the file name in 
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>> Thank you for your suggestion. 
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Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Evan Reese]

What I would ask is, is he absolutely sure that he isn't on his wi-fi 
network already.
That may sound like a strange question, but I had a frustrating experience 
with my iPad Mini a few days ago. I installed an OS update and after that, 
it told me that I needed to enter my wi-fi password. Apparently it forgot 
it. So I entered it and my iPad Mini told me that it was incorrect. So I 
entered it again, several more times in fact and each time it told me that 
it was incorrect.
I was really sure that, even if I had made a typo or two, I had definitely 
entered the correct password during one of my attempts, so I held down the 
Home button and Siri came up. I was on the wi-fi network already.

Anybody else had this experience by the way?
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

If you are 100% or maybe I should say 200% certain you enter the WiFi 
password correctly including upper and lower case characters there is no 
reason why you r iPhone should not connect. You could reboot the router 
which often solves any issues like that, but while I know this has been a 
bit of a tough transition, I assume the iPhone which I think you said is 
brand-new, probably works perfectly and your main problem is that  you are 
still climbing this somewhat steep learning curve which is preventing you to 
get the most out of your new iPhone.
As for the keyboard, the only Logitech model I could find with 600 in the 
model number is the K600 TV keyboard and it is specifically designed to be 
used together with smart TV's.
It has a touchpad and what is called a D-Pad, on Logitech's website it says 
"Everything you need to navigate your Smart TV or PC connected to the TV. 
Search, select, and control your content with the familiar typing 
experience, fluid gestures of the touchpad, or the point-by-point precision 
of the D-Pad."
If that is indeed the model you had in mind I'd seriously reconsider, I 
doubt the touchpad and whatever this D-Pad is are useable for a blind 
person, the pairing process is identical to any other Logitech keyboard, 
i.e. press and hold one of the easy switch keys, wait until it shows up in 
your list of Bluetooth devices on the phone, tap it and enter the pairing 
code on the keyboard. On this keyboard you afterwards also need to tell the 
keyboard that you use iOS otherwise some of the keys won't work and it's all 
around not meant to be a phone keyboard. It's still a bit over 14 inches 
wide and 4.6 inches deep and weights a pound, yes, lighter than the K780, 
but if you want a smaller Bluetooth keyboard without numeric pad then the 
K480 which many others recommended would be much better and less expensive.






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

Its another logitech.  I think its a 600 something.  What I heard about it, 
I liked the description that I was told about it.  Any kind of bluetooth 
wireless keyboard I'm not going to get at the moment anyway.  My phone isn't 
working that well.  I'm just going to use my phone to make and receive 
calls.  My phone can't connect to our wireless network at the moment for 
some reason even though I know what our password should be.  If it wasn't 
for an important phone call I get each month, I probably wouldn't have 
gotten an iPhone in the first place after my flip phone died.  I would have 
gotten another flip phone.  Although it is getting harder and harder to get 
those kinds of phones.  I'm going to get my plan downgraded to the least 
amount of data I can which is 500 megs.  As long as I can make and receive 
calls and send and receive text messages, I'm good.


On 6/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what
way do you think it will work better?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another
keyboard that sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to
wait a bit before getting any bluetooth keyboard.

On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:

HI,
I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I
took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only
thing I did like
about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.
If you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 20

games to play

[Janet Bell]

please can anybody suggest some games you can play on your iPhone online with 
sighted people?  hope there are some,  Janet

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Re: Zip files on voice dream reader

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First, what kind of content is in the zip files?
Second, are you exporting from Dropbox, or adding from Voice Dream Reader?
My experience is that it is easier to setup Dropbox as a content source in VDR, 
and add from it like you would with Bookshare.
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Hello all

I found out that I  have some zip files in a dropbox Folder   I tried to export 
it to voice dream reader but vdr shows error next to the file name in the file 
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To Joshua. Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Dave]

Hi Joshua. Sounds like you could do with one on one training, if you can get 
it.


If you really don't want an iPhone, and want something very basic, which has 
speech, and easy to use. Then see if you can get hold of the capsis mini 
vision.


In the UK, it retails for about 300 pounds.

Please don't get this mixed up, with the capsis smart vision phones, as they 
are more advanced.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

Its another logitech.  I think its a 600 something.  What I heard
about it, I liked the description that I was told about it.  Any kind
of bluetooth wireless keyboard I'm not going to get at the moment
anyway.  My phone isn't working that well.  I'm just going to use my
phone to make and receive calls.  My phone can't connect to our
wireless network at the moment for some reason even though I know what
our password should be.  If it wasn't for an important phone call I
get each month, I probably wouldn't have gotten an iPhone in the first
place after my flip phone died.  I would have gotten another flip
phone.  Although it is getting harder and harder to get those kinds of
phones.  I'm going to get my plan downgraded to the least amount of
data I can which is 500 megs.  As long as I can make and receive calls
and send and receive text messages, I'm good.

On 6/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what way 
do

you think it will work better?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another keyboard 
that

sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to wait a bit before
getting any bluetooth keyboard.

On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:

HI,
I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I
took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only thing I
did like
about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.  If
you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and
heavy compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad
if you want one of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it is
only about $22 and can be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the
iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: will be sending back my logitech keyboard

Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard  and
it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in my USB
dongle.
 I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and tried to pair
it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I bought this
keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going to talk to
apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into settings and
tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep typing in my
passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though I typed in my
passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive
calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good
thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very
much.
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Re: hashtag tips

['Marcio' via VIPhone]

Sieghard,
OMG. I never would have thought of it. Every day is a school day! :)
I'm saving this email because I'll try to get used to this kind of 
writing. Not that I'm going to use it but if I ever come across 
something like that again I'll know what it's all about.


Thanks, S7D, is it right? 😊

P.S.: Ignore the other email that I sent to you. It was a mistake. My bad!

Cheers,
Marcio 
AKA /Starboy/


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Zip files on voice dream reader

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Hello all

I found out that I  have some zip files in a dropbox Folder   I tried to export 
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RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you are 100% or maybe I should say 200% certain you enter the WiFi password 
correctly including upper and lower case characters there is no reason why you 
r iPhone should not connect. You could reboot the router which often solves any 
issues like that, but while I know this has been a bit of a tough transition, I 
assume the iPhone which I think you said is brand-new, probably works perfectly 
and your main problem is that  you are still climbing this somewhat steep 
learning curve which is preventing you to get the most out of your new iPhone.
As for the keyboard, the only Logitech model I could find with 600 in the model 
number is the K600 TV keyboard and it is specifically designed to be used 
together with smart TV's.
It has a touchpad and what is called a D-Pad, on Logitech's website it says 
"Everything you need to navigate your Smart TV or PC connected to the TV. 
Search, select, and control your content with the familiar typing experience, 
fluid gestures of the touchpad, or the point-by-point precision of the D-Pad."
If that is indeed the model you had in mind I'd seriously reconsider, I doubt 
the touchpad and whatever this D-Pad is are useable for a blind person, the 
pairing process is identical to any other Logitech keyboard, i.e. press and 
hold one of the easy switch keys, wait until it shows up in your list of 
Bluetooth devices on the phone, tap it and enter the pairing code on the 
keyboard. On this keyboard you afterwards also need to tell the keyboard that 
you use iOS otherwise some of the keys won't work and it's all around not meant 
to be a phone keyboard. It's still a bit over 14 inches wide and 4.6 inches 
deep and weights a pound, yes, lighter than the K780, but if you want a smaller 
Bluetooth keyboard without numeric pad then the K480 which many others 
recommended would be much better and less expensive.


 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

Its another logitech.  I think its a 600 something.  What I heard about it, I 
liked the description that I was told about it.  Any kind of bluetooth wireless 
keyboard I'm not going to get at the moment anyway.  My phone isn't working 
that well.  I'm just going to use my phone to make and receive calls.  My phone 
can't connect to our wireless network at the moment for some reason even though 
I know what our password should be.  If it wasn't for an important phone call I 
get each month, I probably wouldn't have gotten an iPhone in the first place 
after my flip phone died.  I would have gotten another flip phone.  Although it 
is getting harder and harder to get those kinds of phones.  I'm going to get my 
plan downgraded to the least amount of data I can which is 500 megs.  As long 
as I can make and receive calls and send and receive text messages, I'm good.

On 6/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what 
> way do you think it will work better?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>
> I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another 
> keyboard that sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to 
> wait a bit before getting any bluetooth keyboard.
>
> On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:
>> HI,
>> I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I 
>> took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only 
>> thing I did like
>> about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
>> numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.  
>> If you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
>> Janet
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Merv Keck
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>>
>> You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and 
>> heavy compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad 
>> if you want one of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it 
>> is only about $22 and can be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the 
>> iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
>> Merv
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: will be sending back my logitech keyboard
>>
>> Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard  and 
>> it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in my 
>> USB dongle.
>>  I got nothing at all.  I 

RE: hashtag tips

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You already answered the question in a way by saying “it’s 9 characters 
shorter”. A web search for “Why does #A11Y represent accessibility” gave me 
this:
a11y, the abbreviation stands for accessibility, with the "11" in the middle 
representing the 11 missing letters of the word.
So yes, it’s 9 characters shorter because you replace 11 characters with 2.
Similar abbreviations used are i18n for internationalization (a 20-character 
word and you replace the 18 middle characters with the number 18) and l10n for 
localization (a 12-character word where the middle 10 are replaced by the 
number 10).
It's used by lots of people in the accessibility community, so a search for 
'a11y' finds useful and relevant content.

Got it now, M4O? 😁


Regards,
Sieghard

From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 5:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hashtag tips

Christopher,
a11y is nine characters shorter then #accessibility, so that's why people use 
it.
LOL, good point. But why specifically #A11Y ? I mean, it could be anything, 
then why? That's what I can't understand.

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA Starboy


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Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Its another logitech.  I think its a 600 something.  What I heard
about it, I liked the description that I was told about it.  Any kind
of bluetooth wireless keyboard I'm not going to get at the moment
anyway.  My phone isn't working that well.  I'm just going to use my
phone to make and receive calls.  My phone can't connect to our
wireless network at the moment for some reason even though I know what
our password should be.  If it wasn't for an important phone call I
get each month, I probably wouldn't have gotten an iPhone in the first
place after my flip phone died.  I would have gotten another flip
phone.  Although it is getting harder and harder to get those kinds of
phones.  I'm going to get my plan downgraded to the least amount of
data I can which is 500 megs.  As long as I can make and receive calls
and send and receive text messages, I'm good.

On 6/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what way do
> you think it will work better?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>
> I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another keyboard that
> sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to wait a bit before
> getting any bluetooth keyboard.
>
> On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:
>> HI,
>> I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I
>> took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only thing I
>> did like
>> about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
>> numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.  If
>> you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
>> Janet
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Merv Keck
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>>
>> You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and
>> heavy compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad
>> if you want one of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it is
>> only about $22 and can be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the
>> iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
>> Merv
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: will be sending back my logitech keyboard
>>
>> Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard  and
>> it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in my USB
>> dongle.
>>  I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and tried to pair
>> it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I bought this
>> keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going to talk to
>> apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into settings and
>> tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep typing in my
>> passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though I typed in my
>> passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
>> If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive
>> calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good
>> thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very
>> much.
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RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Joshua, if you don't mind me asking, which keyboard is it and in what way do 
you think it will work better?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

I also have sent back my 780 to amazon.  I heard about another keyboard that 
sounds like it will work better for me.  I'm going to wait a bit before getting 
any bluetooth keyboard.

On 6/19/19, janet gross  wrote:
> HI,
> I had the k780, but the keys were way to large for my fingers, so I 
> took it back to the store.  I ended up buying the k480.  The only thing I did 
> like
> about the k780, it had a numeric keypad.   Although, if I decide I want a
> numeric keypad with my k480, I can buy a Bluetooth numeric keypad.  If 
> you have large fingers, the k780 might work better for you though.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Merv Keck
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard
>
> You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and 
> heavy compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad 
> if you want one of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it is 
> only about $22 and can be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the 
> iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
> Merv
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: will be sending back my logitech keyboard
>
> Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard  and 
> it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in my USB 
> dongle.
>  I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and tried to pair 
> it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I bought this 
> keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going to talk to 
> apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into settings and 
> tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep typing in my 
> passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though I typed in my 
> passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
> If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive 
> calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good 
> thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very much.
> --
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>
> Joshua Hendrickson
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Re: Question about whatsapp

[TaraPrakash]

The last button on the chat back up screen should say off.  you double tap on 
that and then double tap on the done button. 
 

Sent from my iPhone

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> I’m trying to learn how to use whatsapp. When I open it instead of seeing 
> some contacts or message, I find backup whatsapp history, daily, weekly, 
> month or off.
> Do I need to back up the history? I only want to see the contacts that called 
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> I tapped on off, but the screen continues the same.
> Any help, please?
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Question about whatsapp

['evergreenwoods' via VIPhone]

Hello,

 

I’m trying to learn how to use whatsapp. When I open it instead of seeing some 
contacts or message, I find backup whatsapp history, daily, weekly, month or 
off.

Do I need to back up the history? I only want to see the contacts that called 
me.

I tapped on off, but the screen continues the same.

Any help, please?

Rena

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Re: hashtag tips

['Marcio' via VIPhone]

Christopher,
a11y is nine characters shorter then #accessibility, so that's why 
people use it.
LOL, good point. But why specifically #A11Y ? I mean, it could be 
anything, then why? That's what I can't understand.


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Microsoft Soundscape now in Canada

[David Whitehead]

 

Microsoft Soundscape is finally available in Canada.  AppleVis has an article 
about it.  

 

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/microsoft-soundscape/id1240320677

 

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Re: hashtag tips

[Christopher Chaltain]

#a11y is nine characters shorter then #accessibility, so that's why 
people use it.



On 6/20/19 4:29 AM, 'Marcio' via VIPhone wrote:

Traci,

Do people tend to use both #Accessibility and #A11Y or is using both kind of 
redundant?
While I don't know how to answer your question, it got me curious. Why 
do people use #A11Y?
Maybe it's something related to pronunciation, but I really couldn't 
get the point. LOL


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Re: hashtag tips

['Marcio' via VIPhone]

Traci,

Do people tend to use both #Accessibility and #A11Y or is using both kind of 
redundant?
While I don't know how to answer your question, it got me curious. Why 
do people use #A11Y?
Maybe it's something related to pronunciation, but I really couldn't get 
the point. LOL


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