In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 to 5 Mac

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

As I am one of those insane people who is waiting for Apple to re-introduce
Touch-ID back into the iPhone, before purchasing a new model, I found the
following article interesting.

Mark.

In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead
By Ben Lovejoy 
 
In-screen Touch ID could be appearing in iPhones as early as next year,
according to a new report today. But while the current report suggests that
both Touch ID and Face ID fans will be catered for, that may not remain the
case for long.

The debate between the respective fans of Touch ID and Face ID began when
Apple launched the iPhone X, the first iPhone to be launched without the
fingerprint reader since it made its debut on the iPhone 5 S in 2013.

With the iPhone X launch, Apple seemed pretty clear that Face ID was the
future of iPhone authentication. It is, says Apple, faster, easier, and more
secure than Touch ID.
Face ID reinvented the way we unlock, log in, and pay. Some of our most
sophisticated technologies - the TrueDepth camera system, the Secure Enclave
and the Neural Engine - make it the most secure facial authentication ever
in a smart-phone. And even faster and easier to use.

Close family members aside, Apple says that Face ID is 20 times more secure
than Touch ID.
Every fingerprint is unique, so it's rare that even a small section of two
separate fingerprints are alike enough to register as a match for Touch ID.
The probability of this happening is 1 in 50,000 with a single, enrolled
finger.

The probability that a random person in the population could look at your
iPhone or iPad Pro and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1 in 1
million with a single enrolled appearance.

Most owners of iPhone X/XS and latest iPad Pro devices say they would never
go back. That's certainly true for me.

But while that appears to be the consensus view, it's not a universal one.
There are owners of Face ID devices who say they find it less reliable than
Touch ID, and there are owners of Touch ID devices who claim they won't
upgrade until Touch ID is available on newer devices.

Today's report says that Apple is aiming to please all of the people all of
the time, with plans to offer both forms of biometric authentication in
future iPhones, starting in either 2020 or 2021. In-screen Touch ID would
enable Apple to bring back Touch ID without the need for a Home button.

Apple is apparently readying a new under-display integrated Touch ID
fingerprint sensor "as early as its 2020 iPhones" next fall, according to a
report today from Bloomberg. The report says it would be an addition to the
existing Face ID authentication and unlock system, allowing users to
authenticate with either fingerprint or face biometrics [.]

Offering both Touch ID and Face ID would increase overall convenience and
speed of unlocking the iPhone. A user would register their fingerprints and
facial signature, and the phone can unlock as soon as either recognition
succeeds. This means Touch ID can make up for Face ID's weaknesses, and vice
versa.

The problem may come in the future, however. Once In-screen Touch ID proves
reliable, the temptation for Apple to lose the notch by dropping Face ID may
prove irresistible.

Losing the notch, to effectively give an all-screen design, would create a
similar wow factor to that of the iPhone X when it launched. Jony Ive may
have bowed out, but his "single slab of glass" vision for the iPhone likely
lives on within the design team.
Apple already has form for prioritizing form over function in this way. The
company has long aimed to make iPhones as slim as possible, even though many
of us would prefer a slightly thicker phone with better battery life and no
camera bump.

Could Apple do both, and embed Face ID tech beneath the display too?
Long-term, anything is possible. One Android manufacturer has already
demonstrated an under-screen camera. But that's just a proof of concept at
this stage, and Apple would also need to embed the IR emitter and dot
projector too before we could have under-display Face ID. That's not
something that's going to happen anytime soon.

There is, then, a risk that Apple will at some point prioritize design over
performance by dropping Face ID in favor of the clean look of an iPhone that
offers only embedded Touch ID. That, to me, would be a huge shame.

I love Face ID. The beauty of it is that you get strong authentication that
is almost invisible. I pick up my phone, and it's unlocked. I open my
banking app, and a second or so later, I'm looking at my bank balance. They
say the best user interfaces are invisible, and that to me is very nearly
true of Face ID. Having to touch a finger to a device now feels clunky in
comparison.

If Apple supplements Face ID with embedded Touch ID, I'm all in favor. But
if it later drops Face ID to get a sleeker design - as I fear it might -
that would to me be a backward step. I hope I'm wrong.

What's your view? Would you be willing to sacrifice Face ID to 

Re: Phone Scam

[Andy Baracco]

This afternoon I have been receiving calls at 15 minute intervals. The calls 
are a recorded synthasized female voice who calls herself Lisa, and says she 
is from Apple, and that there has been a security breach that affects my 
iCloud account, and of course they want you to verify personal information.


My caller ID rendered a number in the 707 area code.  I don't usually do 
this, but I called the number back, and was connected with the apple Store 
in Santa Rosa CA.  There was a recorded message saying that their phone 
number is apparently being used by scammers who call people and say that 
they are from Apple.  The message also warns callers not to converse with 
anyone and not to share any info.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Phone Scam


Below is one of the responses from 800notes.com about this number.

Robo Cathy Jackson from "microsoft refund dept." New number for same old
SCAM.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: Phone Scam


I sent out a warning about a scam which I will copy below.  I failed to
mention in the original message that this was on my landline and we do not
pay for talking caller ID, which if I had, the list wouldn't have been
cluttered with all the advice about not answering calls from unknown
callers; which is a very good idea if you know it is an unknown caller
Here is the text of what I had sent:
Just received a recorded call from a person claiming to be a Kathy Jackson
wanted to refund our technical support payment from a few months ago and
gave a supposedly toll free number to call, even repeating the number:
844-640-0874.  I highly suspect that calling that number would end in a
large phone bill or worse.
I have reported it to the National Do Not Call Registry.  www.donotcall.gov
which is of course a United States program.
I just thought a heads up was in order.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of GARY
WILLIAMS
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone Scam


Hi,
What is the phone scam out there that y’all are talking about? Somehow we
missed what it was.
Thanks.
Nancy and Gary
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Re: Phone Scam

[Andy Baracco]

Below is one of the responses from 800notes.com about this number.

Robo Cathy Jackson from "microsoft refund dept." New number for same old 
SCAM.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: Phone Scam


I sent out a warning about a scam which I will copy below.  I failed to 
mention in the original message that this was on my landline and we do not 
pay for talking caller ID, which if I had, the list wouldn't have been 
cluttered with all the advice about not answering calls from unknown 
callers; which is a very good idea if you know it is an unknown caller

Here is the text of what I had sent:
Just received a recorded call from a person claiming to be a Kathy Jackson 
wanted to refund our technical support payment from a few months ago and 
gave a supposedly toll free number to call, even repeating the number: 
844-640-0874.  I highly suspect that calling that number would end in a 
large phone bill or worse.
I have reported it to the National Do Not Call Registry.  www.donotcall.gov 
which is of course a United States program.

I just thought a heads up was in order.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of GARY 
WILLIAMS

Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone Scam


Hi,
What is the phone scam out there that y’all are talking about? Somehow we 
missed what it was.

Thanks.
Nancy and Gary
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Phone Scam

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

Nope, sorry, but you can find that out on the web site.

Karen

At 09:26 AM 9/6/2019, you wrote:

Do you know how much the charge for cell phones is?

Thanks.

Vivian and Sallie


From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone Scam

To block these calls, you can go to 
www.nomorobo.com and 
sign up. There is no charge for land lines, but 
there is a charge for cell phones. We have found 
this service to work quite well.


Karen
At 09:11 AM 9/6/2019, you wrote:

The original description was a bit fuzzy, but it 
seemed to fit what I found online.


Someone calls claiming to be from (Microsoft) 
Tech Support, and says that you are owed a 
refund for a support call. Their next step is to 
get you to provide your CC info so they can 
credit you  of course that's not *quite* what they're going to do ;>


Don't provide personal information to anyone who 
calls you. Make sure when you call them, you are 
using a number you have verified. Make sure they 
represent who they claim ... those of us who 
don't have M$ products can be pretty certain 
it's a scam from the start ;> . Folks with 
windows based systems should keep track of your 
support calls and charges ... if you never made 
a call, you aren't really going to get a refund 
(indeed, I'ver never heard of M$ actually 
issuing a refund, so that's pretty dubious in and of itself!)


Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749


On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:56 AM GARY WILLIAMS 
< williams4...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Hi,
What is the phone scam out there that y̢۪all 
are talking about?ut? Somehow we missed what it was.

Thanks.
Nancy and Gary
Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Phone Scam

[Vivian Conger]

Do you know how much the charge for cell phones is?

 

Thanks.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone Scam

 

To block these calls, you can go to www.nomorobo.com  
 and sign up. There is no charge for land lines, but there is a charge for cell 
phones. We have found this service to work quite well.

Karen
At 09:11 AM 9/6/2019, you wrote:



The original description was a bit fuzzy, but it seemed to fit what I found 
online.

Someone calls claiming to be from (Microsoft) Tech Support, and says that you 
are owed a refund for a support call. Their next step is to get you to provide 
your CC info so they can credit you  of course that's not *quite* what 
they're going to do ;>

Don't provide personal information to anyone who calls you. Make sure when you 
call them, you are using a number you have verified. Make sure they represent 
who they claim ... those of us who don't have M$ products can be pretty certain 
it's a scam from the start ;> . Folks with windows based systems should keep 
track of your support calls and charges ... if you never made a call, you 
aren't really going to get a refund (indeed, I'ver never heard of M$ actually 
issuing a refund, so that's pretty dubious in and of itself!)

Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com  
303 997 2749


On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:56 AM GARY WILLIAMS < williams4...@bellsouth.net 
 > wrote:

Hi,

What is the phone scam out there that y’all are talking about? Somehow we 
missed what it was. 

Thanks. 

Nancy and Gary

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Phone Scam

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

To block these calls, you can go to 
www.nomorobo.com and sign up. There is no charge 
for land lines, but there is a charge for cell 
phones. We have found this service to work quite well.


Karen
At 09:11 AM 9/6/2019, you wrote:
The original description was a bit fuzzy, but it 
seemed to fit what I found online.


Someone calls claiming to be from (Microsoft) 
Tech Support, and says that you are owed a 
refund for a support call. Their next step is to 
get you to provide your CC info so they can 
credit you  of course that's not *quite* what they're going to do ;>


Don't provide personal information to anyone who 
calls you. Make sure when you call them, you are 
using a number you have verified. Make sure they 
represent who they claim ... those of us who 
don't have M$ products can be pretty certain 
it's a scam from the start ;> . Folks with 
windows based systems should keep track of your 
support calls and charges ... if you never made 
a call, you aren't really going to get a refund 
(indeed, I'ver never heard of M$ actually 
issuing a refund, so that's pretty dubious in and of itself!)


Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749


On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:56 AM GARY WILLIAMS 
<williams4...@bellsouth.net> wrote:


Hi,
What is the phone scam out there that y’all 
are talking about? Somehow we missed what it was.

Thanks.
Nancy and Gary
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Phone Scam

[Keith Bierman]

The original description was a bit fuzzy, but it seemed to fit what I found
online.

Someone calls claiming to be from (Microsoft) Tech Support, and says that
you are owed a refund for a support call. Their next step is to get you to
provide your CC info so they can credit you  of course that's not
*quite* what they're going to do ;>

Don't provide personal information to anyone who calls you. Make sure when
you call them, you are using a number you have verified. Make sure they
represent who they claim ... those of us who don't have M$ products can be
pretty certain it's a scam from the start ;> . Folks with windows based
systems should keep track of your support calls and charges ... if you
never made a call, you aren't really going to get a refund (indeed, I'ver
never heard of M$ actually issuing a refund, so that's pretty dubious in
and of itself!)

Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749


On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:56 AM GARY WILLIAMS 
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> Hi,
> What is the phone scam out there that y’all are talking about? Somehow we
> missed what it was.
> Thanks.
> Nancy and Gary
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Is there a way to quickly move through the list of messages in the native email app on my iPhone?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Kevin,

The scrolling gestures will help. Flick up with three fingers to move down the 
list in larger chunks. On the braille display, press Space with dots 1456 to 
perform this gesture, or on a Focus, press the left rocker switch down.

Space with dots 123 takes you to the top of the screen, and Space with dots 456 
takes you to the bottom. I would suggest pressing Space with K to open Help and 
pressing the buttons and trying various keyboard gestures to learn what they 
do. You can also see all available commands and assign keys to ones you are 
interested in by opening VoiceOver Settings, choosing Braille, then the More 
Info button for your display, then Commands. there's also a link to braille 
display commands in the iPhone user guide, which is available free from the 
Apple Bookstore.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhoneHi.
> 
> I’m working  native mail app on my iPone, latest iOS, and I’d like to know if 
> I can do what I want. I get a lot of messages each day, and I sometimes get 
> behind examining them. I’d like to know if there’s a quick way to move 
> through the list of messages to get near where I want to be? I’m not meaning 
> I want to get to an exact spot, but I want to move down the list about 50 
> messages with one step. I’m using a Focus braille display, and right now the 
> only way I know to navigate the list is to move down one line at a time. 
> Shall wouldn’t be terrible, but when you have abouthat 400 or so messages !do 
> this with to get where you need to be, this can get old really fast. If 
> someone can help, I’d really really like to know if I can do what I want. 
> This is even more of a nuisance when I want to write a message like this. I 
> move to the bottom of the screen, hit the compose button, then I havdon’t 
> know how to get back where I was.
> 
> Someone please help!
> 
> Kevin and Jilly
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Is there a way to quickly move through the list of messages in the native email app on my iPhone?

[Kevin Minor]

Sent from my iPhoneHi.

I’m working  native mail app on my iPone, latest iOS, and I’d like to know if I 
can do what I want. I get a lot of messages each day, and I sometimes get 
behind examining them. I’d like to know if there’s a quick way to move through 
the list of messages to get near where I want to be? I’m not meaning I want to 
get to an exact spot, but I want to move down the list about 50 messages with 
one step. I’m using a Focus braille display, and right now the only way I know 
to navigate the list is to move down one line at a time. Shall wouldn’t be 
terrible, but when you have abouthat 400 or so messages !do this with to get 
where you need to be, this can get old really fast. If someone can help, I’d 
really really like to know if I can do what I want. This is even more of a 
nuisance when I want to write a message like this. I move to the bottom of the 
screen, hit the compose button, then I havdon’t know how to get back where I 
was.

Someone please help!

Kevin and Jilly

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Re: A Question About The Instant Pot

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi all,
Bringing up this topic from the dead. Any updates?

Feliciano



> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> I would be happy to write to them.  I love my Smart 60 and would love to see 
> the eight quart have a smart version as well.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> Remember no one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
> Eleanor Roosevelt - 1884-1962, Former First Lady of the United States
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:52 PM
> Subject: RE: A Question About The Instant Pot
> 
> 
> Let's hope a new smart Instant Pot is in the works. Maybe we should all 
> write to them and let them know how well the old one worked for blind users.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question About The Instant Pot
> 
> Hello Everyone:
> 
> Thank you all for your feedback on this thread.
> 
> Sieghard, even though I currently have some residual vision. It is most 
> definitely not stable; some days I can see better than others; extremely 
> frustrating, to say the least.
> 
> As a result, whenever possible, I prefer to function as a totally blind 
> person.  Therefore, like you, I will wait until a new Smart version is 
> released.
> 
> Again, thank you all for the great info on this.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 11:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question About The Instant Pot
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> C
> Ristobal is correct, the so-called smart Instant Pot which had the bluetooth 
> connectivity was discontinued last fall. At that time Instant Pot told me a 
> new model would be released in the first quarter of 2018. Of course the 
> first quarter of 2018 has long come and gone and the second quarter has just 
> passed and still there seems to be no new connected Instant Pot. I am also 
> waiting for this so hopefully they will release one soon. In your case a 
> regular model might do the trick since you still have some vision.
> Of course the price might go up now, after all, it's canadian and made from 
> steel so Mr. Trump's tarifs might apply *smile*.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Yolanda Thompson
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 7:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question About The Instant Pot
> 
> I have the duo 60, and I Brailled the Buttons on a sheet of laminate which I 
> keep taped to the inside of the door to lookup a button if I forgot its 
> position.  I absolutely love mine.
> 
>> On 7/13/18, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> I don't think the bluetooth model is being sold any more and from what
>> I've read, I don't think the upcoming Instapot Max due to be released
>> next month will have it either. In fact, I read a review by some tech
>> blog this week that got their hands on it, and they made no mention of
>> any sort of wifi or bluetooth connectivity.
>> There's a Facebook group I belong to, but I forget the name. I'ts not
>> terribly active. I have to look it up.
>> I'm sure there are others on here who are also members in case they
>> have the name handy.
>> If you're by any chance able to still get your hands on the bluetooth
>> model, get it. It's worth it.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 6:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A Question About The Instant Pot
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> A while ago, I think there were some threads on the Instant Pot and
>> its accompanying iOS app.
>> 
>> I am thinking about getting one so wanted to ask if anyone would be
>> willing to contact me, off-list, so we could discuss the various
>> aspects of the item and if anyone knows of a mailing list or facebook
>> group regarding the accessibility of the product, I would greatly
>> appreciate it if you would pass this info on to us all, here on the list.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: Phone Scam

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I sent out a warning about a scam which I will copy below.  I failed to 
> mention in the original message that this was on my landline and we do not 
> pay for talking caller ID, which if I had, the list wouldn't have been 
> cluttered with all the advice about not answering calls from unknown callers; 
> which is a very good idea if you know it is an unknown caller
> Here is the text of what I had sent:
> Just received a recorded call from a person claiming to be a Kathy Jackson 
> wanted to refund our technical support payment from a few months ago and gave 
> a supposedly toll free number to call, even repeating the number: 
> 844-640-0874.  I highly suspect that calling that number would end in a large 
> phone bill or worse.
> I have reported it to the National Do Not Call Registry.  www.donotcall.gov 
> which is of course a United States program.
> I just thought a heads up was in order.
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of GARY 
> WILLIAMS
> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 4:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Phone Scam
> 
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> Hi,
> What is the phone scam out there that y’all are talking about? Somehow we 
> missed what it was. 
> Thanks. 
> Nancy and Gary
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

[Russ Kiehne]

Thanks, I’ll tive it a try.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

Russ, there is Send To Braille from APH. 
It also has an option called Back From Braille that tries to create a txt file.
Try it out and see how it works for you.
If you run into issues, contact APH, or whatever it says in the info.
Here is the link:
https://tech.aph.org/lt/ 



Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



  On Sep 5, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:


  Are there free programs to convert a brf file to text?

  -Original Message- From: Feliciano Godoy
  Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:43 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

  This is true. However, considering the technology we have today,  a .BRF file 
could be converted to a text format that is compatible with voice dream reader.


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On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:30 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:



I've heard that there are text to speech voices that you can purchase

for voice dream reader, but I must be doing something wrong.  I only

see a few voices that I could purchase and I'd heard there was a

somewhat wide selection to choose from.  I haven't tried out the ebook

reading capabilities of voice dream reader, but the audio portion is

great.  Although I do wish I could read other audio formats then mp3

as I've got some described movies in .OGG format and trying to convert

some movies is rather time consuming.  I've listened to an audio book

or two with the app and it is great.  I've got a rather large

bookshare collection and I'll have fun when I use dropbox to add some

bookshare content to the app.



  On 9/5/19, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

  I just wished you could read brf files with voice dream reader.



  From: Duane Steele

  Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:10 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: A Voice Dream Testimonial



  This platform, besides answering questions about issues raised with APPS 
on

  our iDevices, is a great forum to recommend great APPS.  With all the

  discussion about whether or not to purchase Voice Dream Reader, I'll go on

  record daring to say that Voice Dream Reader's one of the greatest 
programs

  ever created for our devices.  You can read books from Bookshare and

  Gutenberg, import documents from Dropbox and other cloud storage, open and

  read files in all kinds of formats including PDF and mp3, and you even 
have

  the option of reading in audio, and, if using a braille device, in 
braille.

  Although you can purchase Voice Dream's APPS separately, I highly 
recommend

  Voice Dream Reader and Voice Dream Scanner as purchases worth far more 
than

  the price tag in the APP store indicates.  The only texts you can’t read 
are

  APPLE books and thats only because iTunes doesn’t allow access by Voice

  Dream.









  Peace & Blessings,

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Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

[Russ Kiehne]

   I don't have a braille display.  I've run across some books I can only 
find in the brf format.  I want to convert them to a format I can read with 
bvoice dream reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Duane Steele

Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

I suspect that the developers of Voice Dream Reader assumed that those 
wanting BRF files would be reading such files automatically on Braille 
devices.  That being said, downloaded files are easily read in braille using 
a device.  Being recently hearing-impaired, I read braille whenever 
possible, even Bookshare books on Voice Dream reader.  My observations are 
just that.  You can contact the developers to get their take on why BRF 
files aren't readable on Voice Dream.



Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194


On Sep 5, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Are there free programs to convert a brf file to text?

-Original Message- From: Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Voice Dream Testimonial

This is true. However, considering the technology we have today,  a .BRF 
file could be converted to a text format that is compatible with voice 
dream reader.



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On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:30 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I've heard that there are text to speech voices that you can purchase
for voice dream reader, but I must be doing something wrong.  I only
see a few voices that I could purchase and I'd heard there was a
somewhat wide selection to choose from.  I haven't tried out the ebook
reading capabilities of voice dream reader, but the audio portion is
great.  Although I do wish I could read other audio formats then mp3
as I've got some described movies in .OGG format and trying to convert
some movies is rather time consuming.  I've listened to an audio book
or two with the app and it is great.  I've got a rather large
bookshare collection and I'll have fun when I use dropbox to add some
bookshare content to the app.


On 9/5/19, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
I just wished you could read brf files with voice dream reader.

From: Duane Steele
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Voice Dream Testimonial

This platform, besides answering questions about issues raised with APPS 
on

our iDevices, is a great forum to recommend great APPS.  With all the
discussion about whether or not to purchase Voice Dream Reader, I'll go 
on
record daring to say that Voice Dream Reader's one of the greatest 
programs

ever created for our devices.  You can read books from Bookshare and
Gutenberg, import documents from Dropbox and other cloud storage, open 
and
read files in all kinds of formats including PDF and mp3, and you even 
have
the option of reading in audio, and, if using a braille device, in 
braille.
Although you can purchase Voice Dream's APPS separately, I highly 
recommend
Voice Dream Reader and Voice Dream Scanner as purchases worth far more 
than
the price tag in the APP store indicates.  The only texts you can’t read 
are

APPLE books and thats only because iTunes doesn’t allow access by Voice
Dream.




Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: Phone Scam

[Richard Turner]

I sent out a warning about a scam which I will copy below.  I failed to mention 
in the original message that this was on my landline and we do not pay for 
talking caller ID, which if I had, the list wouldn't have been cluttered with 
all the advice about not answering calls from unknown callers; which is a very 
good idea if you know it is an unknown caller
Here is the text of what I had sent:
Just received a recorded call from a person claiming to be a Kathy Jackson 
wanted to refund our technical support payment from a few months ago and gave a 
supposedly toll free number to call, even repeating the number: 844-640-0874.  
I highly suspect that calling that number would end in a large phone bill or 
worse.
I have reported it to the National Do Not Call Registry.  www.donotcall.gov 
which is of course a United States program.
I just thought a heads up was in order.

Richard

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WILLIAMS
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone Scam


Hi,
What is the phone scam out there that y’all are talking about? Somehow we 
missed what it was. 
Thanks. 
Nancy and Gary
Sent from my iPhone

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Phone Scam

[GARY WILLIAMS]

Hi,
What is the phone scam out there that y’all are talking about? Somehow we 
missed what it was. 
Thanks. 
Nancy and Gary
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