Re: Apple Watch tips

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

On my series 4 Apple Watch, the only Siri voice I can get on my watch is 
American. I’m in England and my iPhone XS has British English female voice. 
Harry

> On 27 Sep 2019, at 05:58, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Hello robin,
> The only setting pertaining to the voice over voice Says this
> 
> Siri Voice off
> 
> When this is on, VoiceOver will use your current Siri voice.
> I assume this will match whatever voice you use for voice over on the 
> connected iPhone.
> 
> This is in the software Of the Apple Watch app So it should be available on 
> all models.
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Is it possible to Use  Apple's Alex as  your Preferred TTS VoiceOver  on 
>> Apple's AppleWatch, & if so, which Series  did that Begin with: Series3 or 
>> Series4 or Series5???
>> 
>> Just Wonderin
>> Because I would like  to have  VoiceOver announce the Time Hourly  in 
>> Apple's Alex  TTS Voice (if possible)
>> At 10:04 AM 9/24/2019, you wrote:
>>> I find it interesting that I prefer to wear my Apple Watch, and leave my 
>>> iPhone at home, when I go to the gym, but I have all the activities Turned 
>>> off on my watch.
>>> I use the Apple Watch to stay in touch, keep current on news and stocks, 
>>> and to listen to music while I workout, but I am not interested in the 
>>> information that most people Rely on the watch to provide.
>>> I am anenigma 😎  
>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> 
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 
 I started out with the Series 2. It got the job done, but the volume
 was not very loud, for someone with a hearing issue. I really only
 used it to track my health data and to check the time via Haptic Time.
 This means the time can be vibrated depending if you do 2 or 3 taps on
 the watch. A coworker sold me a Series 4 a couple of months ago, and
 the difference has totally been night and day. Series 4 with VoiceOver
 is so much more responsive and stable than the Series 2. I still use
 the Series 4 for health tracking and Haptic Time, but I am also able
 to turn the volume to a decent level for me to hear and receive
 notifications on the watch. I could probably live without one, but the
 Apple Watch has become a nice accessory, and one that can track my
 steps, heart rate, and other information too.
 
 Wayne
 
> On 9/22/19, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> I started out with the series one Apple Watch when they first came out. I
> didn’t think it was too bad until I got my series for about a year ago. 
> The
> difference is night and day! It is so much faster and so much better. I 
> got
> the Cellular  model, so I can make calls and I don’t have to be 
> tethered to
> my iPhone. I  use my watch a lot, but there’s days that I leave it at 
> home.
> As I said before, I’m kind of a gadget nuts so it’s one more toy in my
> toybox!
> But I probably should point out, I do not think there is anything that I 
> can
> do on my Apple Watch, that I cannot do on my Apple phone. So it is a
> peripheral, but not necessary.
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What series of Apple Watch is he giving you? If it is a series 2 then
>> you’ll be in for a frustrating experience and it may turn you off newer
>> and faster devices. My wife and I have both a series 2 which we bought in
>> the fall of 2016 after it came out. For my wife who is sighted it’s not
>> too bad, but I find when Voiceover is running it’s incredibly slow and
>> sluggish. The other day we went for a long walk and wanted to record it
>> and she had started the work-out in about 5 seconds and it took me maybe
>> 30 by the time I switched to the watch face where I have the Workout
>> complication, then when I tapped it, it took forever to load and I
>> actually had to press the digital crown once since it just seemed to 
>> hang,
>> then try again until it finally came up and I could select the workout.
>> We both ordered the new series 5 watches now and I am very curious to see
>> how much nicer the experience will be.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Tom
>> Rash
>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 5:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> S

Re: Apple Watch tips

[Chuck Dean]

 Hello robin,
The only setting pertaining to the voice over voice Says this

Siri Voice off

When this is on, VoiceOver will use your current Siri voice.
I assume this will match whatever voice you use for voice over on the connected 
iPhone.

This is in the software Of the Apple Watch app So it should be available on all 
models.
I hope this helps,

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
>  Is it possible to Use  Apple's Alex as  your Preferred TTS VoiceOver  on 
> Apple's AppleWatch, & if so, which Series  did that Begin with: Series3 or 
> Series4 or Series5???
> 
> Just Wonderin
> Because I would like  to have  VoiceOver announce the Time Hourly  in Apple's 
> Alex  TTS Voice (if possible)
> At 10:04 AM 9/24/2019, you wrote:
>> I find it interesting that I prefer to wear my Apple Watch, and leave my 
>> iPhone at home, when I go to the gym, but I have all the activities Turned 
>> off on my watch.
>> I use the Apple Watch to stay in touch, keep current on news and stocks, and 
>> to listen to music while I workout, but I am not interested in the 
>> information that most people Rely on the watch to provide.
>> I am anenigma 😎   
>>   
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I started out with the Series 2. It got the job done, but the volume
>>> was not very loud, for someone with a hearing issue. I really only
>>> used it to track my health data and to check the time via Haptic Time.
>>> This means the time can be vibrated depending if you do 2 or 3 taps on
>>> the watch. A coworker sold me a Series 4 a couple of months ago, and
>>> the difference has totally been night and day. Series 4 with VoiceOver
>>> is so much more responsive and stable than the Series 2. I still use
>>> the Series 4 for health tracking and Haptic Time, but I am also able
>>> to turn the volume to a decent level for me to hear and receive
>>> notifications on the watch. I could probably live without one, but the
>>> Apple Watch has become a nice accessory, and one that can track my
>>> steps, heart rate, and other information too.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>> On 9/22/19, Chuck Dean  wrote:
 I started out with the series one Apple Watch when they first came out. I
 didn’t think it was too bad until I got my series for about a year ago. 
 The
 difference is night and day! It is so much faster and so much better. I got
 the Cellular  model, so I can make calls and I don’t have to be tethered 
 to
 my iPhone. I  use my watch a lot, but there’s days that I leave it at 
 home.
 As I said before, I’m kind of a gadget nuts so it’s one more toy in my
 toybox!
 But I probably should point out, I do not think there is anything that I 
 can
 do on my Apple Watch, that I cannot do on my Apple phone. So it is a
 peripheral, but not necessary.
 
 Chuck  (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
 Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
 
 Our 1961 Vespa 400
 
> On Sep 22, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> What series of Apple Watch is he giving you? If it is a series 2 then
> you’ll be in for a frustrating experience and it may turn you off newer
> and faster devices. My wife and I have both a series 2 which we bought in
> the fall of 2016 after it came out. For my wife who is sighted it’s not
> too bad, but I find when Voiceover is running it’s incredibly slow and
> sluggish. The other day we went for a long walk and wanted to record it
> and she had started the work-out in about 5 seconds and it took me maybe
> 30 by the time I switched to the watch face where I have the Workout
> complication, then when I tapped it, it took forever to load and I
> actually had to press the digital crown once since it just seemed to hang,
> then try again until it finally came up and I could select the workout.
> We both ordered the new series 5 watches now and I am very curious to see
> how much nicer the experience will be.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom
> Rash
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 5:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Watch tips
> 
> I never really wanted an Apple watch, still not sure.  My son is getting
> the new one and will give me his old one.  I’m going to try it out.  
> I’ll
> be using it with Voice over.  Any quick tips to get started would be
> appreciated to give it a test run and see if I want to keep it.  Thanks.
> look

Re: Apple Watch tips

[Robin]

Is it possible to Use  Apple's Alex as  your 
Preferred TTS VoiceOver  on Apple's AppleWatch, & 
if so, which Series  did that Begin with: Series3 or Series4 or Series5???


Just Wonderin
Because I would like  to have  VoiceOver announce 
the Time Hourly  in Apple's Alex  TTS Voice (if possible)

At 10:04 AM 9/24/2019, you wrote:
I find it interesting that I prefer to wear my 
Apple Watch, and leave my iPhone at home, when I 
go to the gym, but I have all the activities Turned off on my watch.
I use the Apple Watch to stay in touch, keep 
current on news and stocks, and to listen to 
music while I workout, but I am not interested 
in the information that most people Rely on the watch to provide.
I am anenigma 
😎 



Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400


On Sep 24, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

I started out with the Series 2. It got the job done, but the volume
was not very loud, for someone with a hearing issue. I really only
used it to track my health data and to check the time via Haptic Time.
This means the time can be vibrated depending if you do 2 or 3 taps on
the watch. A coworker sold me a Series 4 a couple of months ago, and
the difference has totally been night and day. Series 4 with VoiceOver
is so much more responsive and stable than the Series 2. I still use
the Series 4 for health tracking and Haptic Time, but I am also able
to turn the volume to a decent level for me to hear and receive
notifications on the watch. I could probably live without one, but the
Apple Watch has become a nice accessory, and one that can track my
steps, heart rate, and other information too.

Wayne

On 9/22/19, Chuck Dean  wrote:

I started out with the series one Apple Watch when they first came out. I
didn’t think it was too bad until I got my 
series for about a year ago. The

difference is night and day! It is so much faster and so much better. I got
the Cellular  model, so I can make calls and I 
don’t have to be tethered to
my iPhone. I  use my watch a lot, but 
there’s days that I leave it at home.

As I said before, I’m kind of a gadget nuts so it’s one more toy in my
toybox!
But I probably should point out, I do not think there is anything that I can
do on my Apple Watch, that I cannot do on my Apple phone. So it is a
peripheral, but not necessary.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400


On Sep 22, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


What series of Apple Watch is he giving you? If it is a series 2 then
you’ll be in for a frustrating experience and it may turn you off newer
and faster devices. My wife and I have both a series 2 which we bought in
the fall of 2016 after it came out. For my wife who is sighted it’s not
too bad, but I find when Voiceover is running it’s incredibly slow and
sluggish. The other day we went for a long walk and wanted to record it
and she had started the work-out in about 5 seconds and it took me maybe
30 by the time I switched to the watch face where I have the Workout
complication, then when I tapped it, it took forever to load and I
actually had to press the digital crown once since it just seemed to hang,
then try again until it finally came up and I could select the workout.
We both ordered the new series 5 watches now and I am very curious to see
how much nicer the experience will be.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom
Rash
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Watch tips

I never really wanted an Apple watch, still not sure.  My son is getting
the new one and will give me his old 
one.  I’m going to try it out.  I’ll

be using it with Voice over.  Any quick tips to get started would be
appreciated to give it a test run and see if I want to keep it.  Thanks.
look
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Here is the Contact Info for the Developers of Over Drive; Please Join me in requesting that VoiceOver Access be Restored in iOS 13

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marie and Everyone,

Okay, here is the contact info for the Over Drive people.

I called the number, the other day for another purpose, and spoke to the
operator so they do answer the phone.

If you call, and I hope some of you will, ask for the support team.

Their twitter handle is @OverDriveLibs.

Also, please leave a review in the app store requesting that VoiceOver
access be restored in iOS 13.

This is one of the best apps I've ever used and the thought of having
VoiceOver access lost, breaks my heart.  I have enjoyed hundreds and
hundreds of wonderful audio books via Over Drive and there is so much more
to discover.

OverDrive Inc
World Headquarters
One OverDrive Way
Cleveland, OH 44125 USA
Phone: 216-573-6886.
Fax: 216-573-6888.

http://company.overdrive.com/company/contact/contact-form/

Thank you all for your support on this one.

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Re: VoiceOver not speaking ETA in Uber app

[Harshit Jaithwar]

Hi, this is exactly all happening on the booking screen. The interesting thing 
is when you reinstall the app the first time it speaks ETA on the same screen 
but after closing the app it never speaks on the screen. 
Let’s hope Uber will fix in upcoming updates
Thank you!


Sent from my iPhone

> On 26-Sep-2019, at 22:20, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> This isssue hasn't been resolved for several weeks.
> The screen where you select the car, origin and destination, doesn't allow to 
> see the ETA and the selected pickup point, which are shown in the same field. 
> At the same time it doesn't allow editing origin or destination.
> A workaround for this is to press the button to select destination instead of 
> choosing one of the suggestions that the app offers on main screen. Tha'ts 
> how you can insure that both origin and destination are right before 
> requesting the ride.
> When your car is coming, you need to expand the card with all the driver's 
> info to be able to see the ETA. Before this change, the ETA appeared in main 
> screen and there was no need to expand the driver card.
> Hope that with our reports they fix this at some point.
> 
> Best.
> 
> -Mensaje original-
> De: viphone@googlegroups.com  En nombre de Harshit 
> Jaithwar
> Enviado el: jueves, 26 de septiembre de 2019 13:37
> Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Asunto: Re: VoiceOver not speaking ETA in Uber app
> 
> Hello, my ETA issue is before requesting the ride and not after booking the 
> right. After the booking I can get all the details of my driver ETA license 
> plate number etc. 
> please let me know any way out from this problem. 
> Thank you!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 26-Sep-2019, at 21:22, 'Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I believe that it’s a problem with the app not voiceover. You need to 
>> double tap on the drivers name and then it will take to another screen 
>> and at the top it shows you the ETA. Hope this helps
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 26, 2019, at 6:07 AM, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello friends,
>>> My voice-over not speaking ETA before requesting the ride in Uber app. I 
>>> also tried to delete and reinstalling the app but the issue persist. 
>>> This is the issue I am facing from iOS 12.4 and now facing in iOS 
>>> 13.1 It is worth to note that vo  speaks ETA after booking the right but 
>>> not before that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any help in this regard would be highly appreciable!
>>> Thank you!
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar

[Gerardo Corripio]

Also while flicking, and wanting to interact in Spotify’s Now Playing screen!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 26 sep 2019, a la(s) 5:34 p. m., Viola  escribió:
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> Shirley, I wish there was. there's too much clutter on the text message and 
> the email app.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar
> 
> I sent a message and it was blank so I will start again. If we don't want 
> vertical scroll, is there an option to turn it off, as well as system font?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The vertical scroll bar goes along the right edge of your device. It tells 
>> you where you are on the screen, and you can use it to move around the 
>> screen. If you touch it and flick up, you move 10% of the way up the screen. 
>> flick down to move down 10%. Or you can move more quickly by doing a 
>> double-tap and hold, then sliding your finger up or down.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Shirley Baker  
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>>> 
>>> What is vertical scroll bar and is there a way to keep my phone from 
>>> reading that and it also says something like square and pencil so can I 
>>> stop that from reading too?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Update to: RE: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

[Marie]

I have not yet contacted them because I had not found anyone else having a 
problem. I just did a factory re-set on the phone for no good reason since 
it still does not work. Thank goodness I have devices running IOS 12 which 
are having no problem.
I will see about contacting the developers on one of these devices because I 
don't think I can get to it on the phone with IOS 13.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Update to: RE: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

Hello Marie,

I just updated to the latest release of Over Drive on my iPad Pro.

Wow!  VoiceOver is definitely broken.  This is to say, the main menu area is 
completely inaccessible.  So disappointing.


Marie, you said you were going to contact the developers.

Can you please share any contact info you have for them?

Thank you,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:iph...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:34 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

I have not heard anything about problems with the Overdrive app so not sure 
if I am alone on this. But I have tried everything to get this app to work 
and it crashes every time I try to add a title or a library or basically 
just to use it. I have been using this app successfully for quite some time 
before the update. But Before contacting the developer, I just wondered if 
anyone else is experiencing a problem.
I have tried deleting the app and re-installing and even deleted it, powered 
the phone off and back on and re-installing with no luck.


Thanks,
Marie

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Re: A question about which braille display to buy.

[Richard Turner]

>From what I've seen of the Focus 40 5th Generation, it looks like a really 
>good display.
It is very well made, much better than the previous versions.
On the other hand, the Qbraille has great potential with all the Windows Keys, 
but my experience with it is not great.
If they have improved its connections to bluetooth in the last 3 or 4 months, 
it could be very good.
But as of May, it was not good at all via bluetooth.
Using the USB connection with the computer and Jaws, it was very good.
If you use Jaws, the Focus should just work.
The QBraille will need a driver.


Richard

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Hi all.

I need a new braille display.

It is really not easy what are people suggesting.

I need the display for my phone, but also for my computer.

I am considering a focus 40 a QBraille or something smaller.

What would you suggest. 14 cells are very small to me but 40 cells display are 
very long.

I have also thought about a braille note touch Plus.

Orbit reader has no cursor routing buttons and that would be a problem for me.

Best Annie.

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Re: Deleting in

[Holly]

Thanks Bobbette:

I have a lot of research to do.

Sure nice to have all of you listers to toss things back and forth with.

As you say, it is just a relief to finally have a definitive diagnosis.

Am in the data base now, and I will upload the new info to My Retina Tracker 
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Re: A question about which braille display to buy.

[Eden]

Hi Annie,
I would recommend a qbraille. I found the Focus unpaired rather frequently from 
my iphone. I've had the qbraille for almost a year and x it pairsseamlessly and 
even if it loses connection, it connects back without help from you. It also 
works well with the computer and there's not bizarre quirky commands to 
remember. The keys also feel more solid. Focus keys feel like they are caving 
in. The commands on the qbraille use the same ones as a qwerty keyboard, and 
it's easy to know where the right buttons are because they are like a qwerty 
fitted  around the braille keyboard.  

On Sep 26, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
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Hi all.

I need a new braille display.

It is really not easy what are people suggesting.

I need the display for my phone, but also for my computer.

I am considering a focus 40 a QBraille or something smaller.

What would you suggest. 14 cells are very small to me but 40 cells display are 
very long.

I have also thought about a braille note touch Plus.

Orbit reader has no cursor routing buttons and that would be a problem for me.

Best Annie.

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A question about which braille display to buy.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi all.

I need a new braille display.

It is really not easy what are people suggesting.

I need the display for my phone, but also for my computer.

I am considering a focus 40 a QBraille or something smaller.

What would you suggest. 14 cells are very small to me but 40 cells display are 
very long.

I have also thought about a braille note touch Plus.

Orbit reader has no cursor routing buttons and that would be a problem for me.

Best Annie.

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Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar

[Shirley Baker]

No, it's vertical scroll bar.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Albert Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Are we talking about the Vertical Navigation button on the Rotor?  If so, I 
> mostly use it on the Home Screen to move focus up and down the columns so I 
> don’t have to do as many swipes to the right and left.  I also arrange my 
> apps and folders on the main screen so that I have quick and easy access to 
> the ones I use the most, namely the most critical ones are listed along the 
> left and right margins.  
> 
> Thx, Albert
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 26, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The vertical scroll bar goes along the right edge of your device. It tells 
>> you where you are on the screen, and you can use it to move around the 
>> screen. If you touch it and flick up, you move 10% of the way up the screen. 
>> flick down to move down 10%. Or you can move more quickly by doing a 
>> double-tap and hold, then sliding your finger up or down.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Shirley Baker  
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>>> 
>>> What is vertical scroll bar and is there a way to keep my phone from 
>>> reading that and it also says something like square and pencil so can I 
>>> stop that from reading too?
>>> 
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Re: choosing a Mac, was Re: SMB file sharing

[Anna Dresner]

Sounds like you've got good reasons, then. Good luck with the paperwork.

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Robert Wright  wrote:
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> I am looking at audio production and also as a way of monitoring the web 
> sites I develop to make sure of accessibility across the board. I also do 
> tech support and wish to expand into the Mac world. I was reminded this 
> morning about the Mac mini.
>  
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
> learning start?*** 
>  
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>  
> Hi,
>  
> Your answer to that question will depend on what you use your computer for 
> and why you specifically want a Mac.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Robert Wright  > wrote:
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> What I need help with is letting them know why a Mac over a Windows PC. 
>  
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
> learning start?*** 
>  
> From: Anna Dresner 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:15 PM
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>  
> Hi,
>  
> I don't know the details of the latest Macs. I would suggest going to an 
> Apple store so you can check them out and figure out which one might work for 
> you.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Robert Wright  > wrote:
>  
> Ann, could you write me off list. I have an opportunity to apply for a grant 
> to get a Mac.  I need help in deciding which Mac. Macbook or iMac. I have to 
> write a letter of justification.
>  
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
> learning start?*** 
>  
> From: Woody Anna Dresner 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:53 PM
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>  
> Hi,
>  
> Has anyone gotten this to work in Windows? I got it to work with my Mac, and 
> I found the IPV4 address for my Windows machine. I don't get any errors when 
> I try to connect my iPhone to my windows machine, but I don't see any Windows 
> files or folders on my iPhone. I've tried several Google searches and some 
> experimenting with no luck, and I confirmed that the iOS 13.1 manual has no 
> information about this
>  
> Thanks for any help,
> Anna
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Re: how to start receiving my notifacaions

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Casey,

Open the apps from which you expect to get notifications. They may ask for 
permission to use notifications. even if they don't, often opening an app gets 
it started receiving notifications again.

Best,
Anna


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> Hi okay I have two i Phones A six S plus and a 10 X.
> 
> so yesterday I upgraded my six S plus first to 13.1 and then I did my 10 X.
> 
> Now I had to put the 6 S plus on our WI-FI to upgrade the IOS cause i use the 
> 10 X as my main phone.
> 
> So when i got the 6 S plus up and running with the 13.1 IOS I started getting 
> all of my notifications on the 6 instead of the 10 Xr.
> 
> Now the 6 s plus has know service.
> 
> Cause as I have said before that was the phone I was using before the 10 Xr.
> 
> So now i am not getting any notifications on my I phone 10 X like I should.
> 
> I called apple accessibility and they said that everything was set correctly.
> 
> So then how do I get my notifications to work like they did on the phone that 
> i normally use?
> 
> 
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Deleting in VDR

[Richard Turner]

For those who missed being able to flick up or down on a file in Voice Dream 
Reader to delete it, update to version 4.9.2 and you will have it back.
Winston fixed that bug.


Richard

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Re: is there a way to limit the number of notification announcements that are red out before it stops?

[Richard Turner]

try turning on do not disturb before you get in the shower.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 26, 2019, at 4:32 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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hi,
I receive add an announcement every minute after a notification is received, 
until I am able to get to the phone to turn it off. This is a problem when I’m 
in the shower and listening via Bluetooth speaker.
Is there a way to limit the number of notifications that I received before it 
goes quiet? I thought this was the case, but could not find any such way within 
the notification center settings.
Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: is there a way to limit the number of notification announcements that are red out before it stops?

[Alex Stone]

i dont think there is. I think they’re either read out or not read our.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Sep 2019, at 00:32, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> hi,
> I receive add an announcement every minute after a notification is received, 
> until I am able to get to the phone to turn it off. This is a problem when 
> I’m in the shower and listening via Bluetooth speaker.
> Is there a way to limit the number of notifications that I received before it 
> goes quiet? I thought this was the case, but could not find any such way 
> within the notification center settings.
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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is there a way to limit the number of notification announcements that are red out before it stops?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
I receive add an announcement every minute after a notification is received, 
until I am able to get to the phone to turn it off. This is a problem when I’m 
in the shower and listening via Bluetooth speaker.
Is there a way to limit the number of notifications that I received before it 
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RE: choosing a Mac, was Re: SMB file sharing

[Robert Wright]

I am looking at audio production and also as a way of monitoring the web sites 
I develop to make sure of accessibility across the board. I also do tech 
support and wish to expand into the Mac world. I was reminded this morning 
about the Mac mini.

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From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: choosing a Mac, was Re: SMB file sharing

Hi,

Your answer to that question will depend on what you use your computer for and 
why you specifically want a Mac.

Best,
Anna




On Sep 26, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:

What I need help with is letting them know why a Mac over a Windows PC. 
 
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From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:15 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: choosing a Mac, was Re: SMB file sharing
 
Hi,
 
I don't know the details of the latest Macs. I would suggest going to an Apple 
store so you can check them out and figure out which one might work for you.
 
Best,
Anna
 
 



On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Robert Wright  wrote:
 
Ann, could you write me off list. I have an opportunity to apply for a grant to 
get a Mac.  I need help in deciding which Mac. Macbook or iMac. I have to write 
a letter of justification.
 
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From: Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:53 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: SMB file sharing
 
Hi,
 
Has anyone gotten this to work in Windows? I got it to work with my Mac, and I 
found the IPV4 address for my Windows machine. I don't get any errors when I 
try to connect my iPhone to my windows machine, but I don't see any Windows 
files or folders on my iPhone. I've tried several Google searches and some 
experimenting with no luck, and I confirmed that the iOS 13.1 manual has no 
information about this
 
Thanks for any help,
Anna
 
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Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar

[Albert Ruel]

Are we talking about the Vertical Navigation button on the Rotor?  If so, I 
mostly use it on the Home Screen to move focus up and down the columns so I 
don’t have to do as many swipes to the right and left.  I also arrange my apps 
and folders on the main screen so that I have quick and easy access to the ones 
I use the most, namely the most critical ones are listed along the left and 
right margins.  

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> The vertical scroll bar goes along the right edge of your device. It tells 
> you where you are on the screen, and you can use it to move around the 
> screen. If you touch it and flick up, you move 10% of the way up the screen. 
> flick down to move down 10%. Or you can move more quickly by doing a 
> double-tap and hold, then sliding your finger up or down.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> 
>> What is vertical scroll bar and is there a way to keep my phone from reading 
>> that and it also says something like square and pencil so can I stop that 
>> from reading too?
>> 
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>  we even have an option to use this or not? Personally, I did fine without 
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RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth

[Robert Wright]

I disagree. It is not as accessible as the Smart Bluetooth. This seller stated 
that they have the Smart Bluetooth but they accidently sent the wrong thing.

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From: Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:33 AM
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Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth

The. the Instant Pot Smart WiFi Is what you need. 
 
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On Sep 26, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
The Bluetooth model hasn’t been sold in at least a year or two, you can 
sometimes find used ones on Amazon.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth
 
I learned today that I was sold the wrong Instant Pot. This is the Duo which 
does not have Bluetooth.
 
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From: Yolanda Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth
 
Yes you hold the adjust button down for three seconds and that puts it in 
pairing mode
Sent from my iPhone
 
On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:

Am I suppose to hit a button on the pressure cooker to set up the Bluetooth 
with the app?
 
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Issues with Series 3 watch following Os Update

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I have two major problems with my Apple Watch since updating both my Iphone
8+ and the series 3 watch.

First, I cannot adjust any increments in the workout app. So, if you're
going to do something for ten minutes, you can't use the picker item to
adjust it to 15 or 5. It just does nothing. 

Second, I cannot dictate in response to a message. I see this problem
occasionally and the fix is to reboot the watch and the phone. It's not
working, and even a hard reset on the watch doesn't get it. The dictate
button responds, but no text is inserted. 

The final issue isn't too big but it's definitely not right. When I put the
watch on and enter my passcode it has always been that you have to double
tap each number and you get the confirmation click. Now you get nothing when
double tapping the number but it does take. 

The first two I described though are both really annoying. If this is a
known issue and there's a work around, I'm all for it.

I would say in general that this has been the bumpiest update for me ever
overall. It might be that my items are older, I usually have upgraded my
phone by now but have really seen no need these days. 

But I would like to get my watch back in order, adjust my workout settings
and dictate responses to my messages. So handy.

 

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Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar

[Viola]

Shirley, I wish there was. there's too much clutter on the text message and 
the email app.




-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar

I sent a message and it was blank so I will start again. If we don't want 
vertical scroll, is there an option to turn it off, as well as system font?


Sent from my iPhone


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Hi,

The vertical scroll bar goes along the right edge of your device. It tells 
you where you are on the screen, and you can use it to move around the 
screen. If you touch it and flick up, you move 10% of the way up the 
screen. flick down to move down 10%. Or you can move more quickly by doing 
a double-tap and hold, then sliding your finger up or down.


Best,
Anna




On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Shirley Baker  
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What is vertical scroll bar and is there a way to keep my phone from 
reading that and it also says something like square and pencil so can I 
stop that from reading too?


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Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar

[Shirley Baker]

I sent a message and it was blank so I will start again. If we don't want  
vertical scroll, is there an option to turn it off, as well as system font?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The vertical scroll bar goes along the right edge of your device. It tells 
> you where you are on the screen, and you can use it to move around the 
> screen. If you touch it and flick up, you move 10% of the way up the screen. 
> flick down to move down 10%. Or you can move more quickly by doing a 
> double-tap and hold, then sliding your finger up or down.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
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>> What is vertical scroll bar and is there a way to keep my phone from reading 
>> that and it also says something like square and pencil so can I stop that 
>> from reading too?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar

[Shirley Baker]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The vertical scroll bar goes along the right edge of your device. It tells 
> you where you are on the screen, and you can use it to move around the 
> screen. If you touch it and flick up, you move 10% of the way up the screen. 
> flick down to move down 10%. Or you can move more quickly by doing a 
> double-tap and hold, then sliding your finger up or down.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> 
>> What is vertical scroll bar and is there a way to keep my phone from reading 
>> that and it also says something like square and pencil so can I stop that 
>> from reading too?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>  we even have an option to use this or not? Personally, I did fine without 
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RE: Texting Problem

[Carolyn Arnold]

Goodness, all that message clutter would drive me back to a flip phone! 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Texting Problem

Do you leave the unsent text in your messages app?  If not, try leaving it 
there.  I find that if someone has messages in my messages app, the message 
goes through.  Also, apparently using the dictate option in the send message 
screen seems to work when using Siri does not.

 

This does seem to be a common problem as indicated in a whole string of posts 
on this topic recently.

 

Good luck,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bonnie 
Blose
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Texting Problem

 

I am having a strange problem with texts. I can send most without difficulty, 
but a close friend of mine who does have an IPhone is the one person I geg a  
failure to send every time I try. She just got an Iphone about six months ago. 
Before updates, we were exchanging them just fine. I don't know if she can send 
me one.

 

I have turned my phone off and that did not help my problem with my friend. It 
did repair the problem to a degree, because I did discover I could not send a 
text to anyone without a failure notice. After I turned the phone off and then 
back on, it straightened out the problem with  everyone except for this one 
friend. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

 

Hey Guys,

I don’t own an iPhone myself, I have an iPad Mini 4, so I have not encountered 
this problem personally. I’m asking for a friend of mine. She is pretty new to 
the iPhone and got an iPhone 7. She says that one frustration she is having is 
that when she calls a number and is prompted to enter numbers on the keypad 
with an automated system, she can’t hear what Voiceover is saying because the 
call audio is too loud.

Can anyone advise me on what to tell her as to how to bring down the call 
volume or bring up the Voiceover volume so she can hear what she is entering on 
the screen?

Thanks a bunch.

Evan

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RE: Question About Dictate

[Carolyn Arnold]

That darn dictate thing drives me crazy. I do not like dictating other than 
some of the time to Siri for messages and emails, but not all the time. 

13.1 is sort of like getting another kind of phone in a way. Some things look 
way different, like Reminders. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Shirley Baker
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question About Dictate

I just updated my phone successfully, which is a 6S plus but my question is 
when I open the mail app, the first thing I see is dictate. Is there a way to 
move that or remove it from that spot or turn it off?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Where is Samantha?

[Richard Turner]

Well, make sure your phone is plugged in and on WiFi.
Wait a few hours and your voices should be back.
Samantha hasn't gone anywhere.
Sometimes after updating, it takes many hours for the iPhone to finish the 
background tasks in updating.



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Chopra
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 1:03 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Where is Samantha?

Since I upgraded to iOS 13.1, I cannot use Samantha as my default voice for 
voice over!

I do not like this new voice, and want to get Samantha back! Where is she? How 
can I find her? Can I get a back or have I lost a forever?
Please help!

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RE: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marie,

I just posted a reply on the list under a different subject, before seeing your 
message under this subject.  Sorry for any confusion.

I just updated to the latest release of Over Drive on my iPad Pro and, after 
doing so, the Over Drive menu bar is completely inaccessible to VoiceOver.  I 
am so disappointed.  

You sated that you were going to contact the developers of Over Drive.  

Please share any contact info you have for them and I will definitely contact 
them, also.

I am not going to update my 8 Plus until this particular app is working on iOS 
13.1 or later because I use Over Drive every Single day.  

Tell me, have you attempted to use Libby?  Does it now work?  Please let us 
know.

Mark
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Marie
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

Thanks Mark. I am running it on an IPhone 8 only. I just can't understand what 
is going on. It works flawlessly with 12.4.1 on my other devices. 
Perhaps I need to consider doing a full factory re-set on the phone and not 
even restore from a backup.  I am somewhat reluctant to go to all that trouble 
and find out it does not work and maybe the issue is with the hardware on the 
Eight, so if someone is  running it on an IPhone eight please let me know your 
experience.
I did get an update to Overdrive today and hoped it would solve the problem but 
no such luck.
Marie


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

Hello Marie,

I, too, love the Over Drive app.

I am currently running it successfully on both my iPad Pro with iPad OS 13.1 
and on an iPhone 11, with iOS 13.1.

Currently, based on all of the wonderful threads in this group, I have no plans 
to update my 8 Plus to 13.1.  This is to say, I have not tested Over Drive on 
any phone older than iPhone 11.

Mark

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Marie
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:34 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

I have not heard anything about problems with the Overdrive app so not sure if 
I am alone on this. But I have tried everything to get this app to work and it 
crashes every time I try to add a title or a library or basically just to use 
it. I have been using this app successfully for quite some time before the 
update. But Before contacting the developer, I just wondered if anyone else is 
experiencing a problem.
I have tried deleting the app and re-installing and even deleted it, powered 
the phone off and back on and re-installing with no luck.

Thanks,
Marie

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RE: Voicedream and Pocket/Instapaper

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You probably need to write Winston directly on this one.  wins...@voicedream.com



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Subject: Voicedream and Pocket/Instapaper

I am having trouble syncing articles from Pocket and/oor Instapaper to 
VoiceDream. In each case I get the same result: the articles appear but it says 
"not available" and will not let me open them, even if I wait for a 
considerable time.

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Update to: RE: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marie,

I just updated to the latest release of Over Drive on my iPad Pro.

Wow!  VoiceOver is definitely broken.  This is to say, the main menu area is 
completely inaccessible.  So disappointing.

Marie, you said you were going to contact the developers.  

Can you please share any contact info you have for them?

Thank you,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:34 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

I have not heard anything about problems with the Overdrive app so not sure if 
I am alone on this. But I have tried everything to get this app to work and it 
crashes every time I try to add a title or a library or basically just to use 
it. I have been using this app successfully for quite some time before the 
update. But Before contacting the developer, I just wondered if anyone else is 
experiencing a problem.
I have tried deleting the app and re-installing and even deleted it, powered 
the phone off and back on and re-installing with no luck.
 
Thanks,
Marie
 
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Pocket Menus

[kelby carlson]

I reinstalled Pocket recently, but it seems it has taken a step backward in 
accessibility. There is no "main menu" button, so I am unable to access 
anywhing beyond my home list such as archive.

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Re: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Mama Peach]

I had this happen to me today when trying to place a call. My phone freaked 
totally out and no matter what I tried, I could not get Voice Over to work. I 
had to reboot the phone and even then I had trouble getting Voice Over back. 
Somehow or another after a little wait, it fixed itself. I sure hope this gets 
fixed soon. The call I was trying to make had to be made at a certain time and 
I was just unable to make that call for about 5 minutes. I know bugs are a 
norm, but it just seems like they rush out these updates just because a new 
version of the iPhone is released. I knew I should not have updated so quickly, 
but I was eager to get the Silence Unknown Callers feature that comes with IOS 
13. This has definitly taught me to wait a while when another update is 
released.

From: Michael Feir 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call 
bug

I've experienced this bug. Provided you have your accessibility shortcut set 
for VoiceOver, recovery is pretty simple. Click the home button three times 
quickly if your device has one. If not, do this with the action button on the 
right side of your iPHONE. You need to do this once to turn VoiceOver off 
completely and then again to turn it back on. This starts it fresh and it 
should work as normal. Sometimes, you need to triple click the home or action 
button a few times before VoiceOver comes back. Just be certain you leave a 
pause between sets of three clicks. Half a second's wait should do it. The 
danger here is that you may click fast enough so that five rapid clicks get 
registered. This activates the emergency SOS feature unless you go into 
settings and disable call using side button. If yOu disable this, you don't 
have to worry. Should you need to use emergency SOS and you've disabled the 
call using side button option, simply hold the side button and a volume button 
down for around a second and a half. A menu will pop up and you can either shut 
down or activate SOS mode. Hope this helps. 

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Wayne Merritt  wrote:

  I think I experienced this a couple of nights ago. I don't get many
  calls, but when my wife called me back after us getting disconnected,
  I was not able to use the magic tap gesture to answer the call, and
  did not get any feedback from VoiceOver at all. I did not have to
  totally restart my phone though, I just restarted VoiceOver and
  everything was fine. I'm not sure how one would restart their phone if
  there was no speech at all. While this behavior was annoying and
  frustrating, I don't get many calls so I can live with it until Apple
  fixes the issue.

  Wayne

  On 9/26/19, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
  > Hi folks
  >
  > Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and
  > are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the
  > telephone or facetime app?
  > And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up
  > later without the bug?
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Re: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Gerardo Corripio]

Or turn off VoiceOver, and ask Siri to call someone? This way, we could see if 
it’s a VO bug, or a general one. Or also ask the person to hang up first since 
we’ll have VO turned off? ON my SE (I knock wood this won’t happen), but so 
far, no bug as such!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 26 sep 2019, a la(s) 7:10 a. m., Davy Cuppens  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> Hi folks
>  
> Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and 
> are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the 
> telephone or facetime app?
> And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up 
> later without the bug?
> Regards
> Davy
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Voicedream and Pocket/Instapaper

[kelby carlson]

I am having trouble syncing articles from Pocket and/oor Instapaper to 
VoiceDream. In each case I get the same result: the articles appear but it says 
"not available" and will not let me open them, even if I wait for a 
considerable time.

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Siri voice on watch

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Since updating to watch Os 6 my Apple Watch series 4 the only Siri voice I can 
get is American female even though my iPhone has British female voice. Is this 
normal?
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Re: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Davy Cuppens]

Wow, I can eventually confirm this bug. My phone ran into recovery mode just a 
few moments ago resetting it while plugged in.
Regards 
Davy 

From: Deb Cook Lewis 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call 
bug

This happened to me. Iphone 8+. I called Apple Accesibility because I had not 
read about this problem. They advised me that the recommended solution was a 
hard reset. But they further recommended to do the hard reset with the phone 
unplugged because sometimes the phones are going into recovery mode instead of 
rebooting. He said that this shouldn’t happen unless plugged into a PC, but it 
most definitely was. We did it with mine plugged in, and sure enough it did go 
into recovery which forced me to do the procedure again unplugged. Having done 
it, I’ve had no more difficulties and it has been 24 hours. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call 
bug

 

I had a client who was on the beta of iOS 13.1 last week who has an iPhone 7, 
who experienced this issue several times.

When he came in for our training session, I called his phone and I answered it 
and the phone worked fine.

I called his phone again and he answered it and it locked up.

He did the power button/home button reboot.

After that, he didn’t experience it again.

It certainly is not a wide spread issue.

But, if it keeps happening, you will need to deal with Apple directly.

 

You could try a reset of network settings I suppose but if it keeps up after 
that, then it is time to contact Apple.

 

 

 

Richard

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

 

Hi folks 

 

Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and 
are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the 
telephone or facetime app?

And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up 
later without the bug?

Regards 

Davy 

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Re: is there a way to get rid of this message when I open an email from an email list?

[Davy Cuppens]

That has nothing to do with accessibility. Sighted people get this message 
too.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is there a way to get rid of this message when I open an email 
from an email list?


I've never run across an option to stop it.
Perhaps writing Apple Accessibility as well as providing feedback directly 
through www.apple.com/feedback would be good.

I just ignore the message.



Richard

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-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is there a way to get rid of this message when I open an email from 
an email list?


hi,
I get the following message whenever I open an email from this list, or 
other email lists.
This message is from a mailing list., Unsubscribe Button I have looked in 
the settings app under mail, and cannot find a way to turn this off. I have 
tapped on the accompanying close button several times, but it continues with 
each new message from this list.
Is there a way of permanently getting rid of this message? I know which 
messages come from an email list.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Deb Cook Lewis]

This happened to me. Iphone 8+. I called Apple Accesibility because I had not 
read about this problem. They advised me that the recommended solution was a 
hard reset. But they further recommended to do the hard reset with the phone 
unplugged because sometimes the phones are going into recovery mode instead of 
rebooting. He said that this shouldn’t happen unless plugged into a PC, but it 
most definitely was. We did it with mine plugged in, and sure enough it did go 
into recovery which forced me to do the procedure again unplugged. Having done 
it, I’ve had no more difficulties and it has been 24 hours. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call 
bug

 

I had a client who was on the beta of iOS 13.1 last week who has an iPhone 7, 
who experienced this issue several times.

When he came in for our training session, I called his phone and I answered it 
and the phone worked fine.

I called his phone again and he answered it and it locked up.

He did the power button/home button reboot.

After that, he didn’t experience it again.

It certainly is not a wide spread issue.

But, if it keeps happening, you will need to deal with Apple directly.

 

You could try a reset of network settings I suppose but if it keeps up after 
that, then it is time to contact Apple.

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

 

Hi folks 

 

Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and 
are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the 
telephone or facetime app?

And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up 
later without the bug?

Regards 

Davy 

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Where is Samantha?

[karuna Chopra]

Since I upgraded to iOS 13.1, I cannot use Samantha as my default voice for 
voice over!

I do not like this new voice, and want to get Samantha back! Where is she? How 
can I find her? Can I get a back or have I lost a forever?
Please help!

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how to start receiving my notifacaions

[Casey]

Hi okay I have two i Phones A six S plus and a 10 X.

so yesterday I upgraded my six S plus first to 13.1 and then I did my 10 X.

Now I had to put the 6 S plus on our WI-FI to upgrade the IOS cause i 
use the 10 X as my main phone.


So when i got the 6 S plus up and running with the 13.1 IOS I started 
getting all of my notifications on the 6 instead of the 10 Xr.


Now the 6 s plus has know service.

Cause as I have said before that was the phone I was using before the 10 Xr.

So now i am not getting any notifications on my I phone 10 X like I should.

I called apple accessibility and they said that everything was set 
correctly.


So then how do I get my notifications to work like they did on the phone 
that i normally use?




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RE: is there a way to get rid of this message when I open an email from an email list?

[Richard Turner]

I've never run across an option to stop it.
Perhaps writing Apple Accessibility as well as providing feedback directly 
through www.apple.com/feedback would be good.
I just ignore the message.



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From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: is there a way to get rid of this message when I open an email from an 
email list?

hi,
I get the following message whenever I open an email from this list, or other 
email lists.
This message is from a mailing list., Unsubscribe Button I have looked in the 
settings app under mail, and cannot find a way to turn this off. I have tapped 
on the accompanying close button several times, but it continues with each new 
message from this list.
Is there a way of permanently getting rid of this message? I know which 
messages come from an email list.
Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

[Marie]

Thanks Mark. I am running it on an IPhone 8 only. I just can't understand 
what is going on. It works flawlessly with 12.4.1 on my other devices. 
Perhaps I need to consider doing a full factory re-set on the phone and not 
even restore from a backup.  I am somewhat reluctant to go to all that 
trouble and find out it does not work and maybe the issue is with the 
hardware on the Eight, so if someone is  running it on an IPhone eight 
please let me know your experience.
I did get an update to Overdrive today and hoped it would solve the problem 
but no such luck.

Marie


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From: M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

Hello Marie,

I, too, love the Over Drive app.

I am currently running it successfully on both my iPad Pro with iPad OS 13.1 
and on an iPhone 11, with iOS 13.1.


Currently, based on all of the wonderful threads in this group, I have no 
plans to update my 8 Plus to 13.1.  This is to say, I have not tested Over 
Drive on any phone older than iPhone 11.


Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Marie

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:34 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

I have not heard anything about problems with the Overdrive app so not sure 
if I am alone on this. But I have tried everything to get this app to work 
and it crashes every time I try to add a title or a library or basically 
just to use it. I have been using this app successfully for quite some time 
before the update. But Before contacting the developer, I just wondered if 
anyone else is experiencing a problem.
I have tried deleting the app and re-installing and even deleted it, powered 
the phone off and back on and re-installing with no luck.


Thanks,
Marie

Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers
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I updated ios 13.2 from a real pain to just a fine release here is my story

[Davy Cuppens]

Sieghard 

I took the plunge and updated my phone.

I did the update over itunes after I first rebooted the phone.
I am a lucky bastard, I cannot encounter any of these bugs. 
However the notification center is a bit bumpy and the vo cursor is not that 
accurate but then again it is workable if you control sometimes putting one 
finger in the middle of the screen.
When starting the config, I was really frustrated and unsatisfied.
I also lost my extended Belgian speech voice and redownloaded the voices but 
they could first not be installed. I could only set the Dutch standard voice 
and so could nolonger alter my belgian syntesizer like speed and pitch. What a 
mess!
I was asked to configure Apple Pay which I cannot do because that is not at our 
disposal with my bank account. When I hit the settings item it always said one 
item as if there was an update or so.
I also lost my rotor languages and could not re-establish them. All my foreign 
language voices had disappeared I believed.
In settings/accessibility/voiceover speech I couldn’t even add any languages 
while the item had been greyed.

But then: positive conclusion.
I was always told an iphone is busy with indexing the ios version together with 
the packing-up of apps to the ios13 standard formats, matching settings  and so 
on.

So I left it alone and went out to eat and when I came back.
I selected my syntesizer and it came up. 
I went to check my rotor languages and the voices were there again and the item 
to add languages could now be selected just fine. I reset my language standard 
to belgian Dutch and I could adapt my syntesizer in the rotor on the fly again, 
yeah.
I restarted in settings the configuration of Apple pay that was left and I was 
prompted to log in to my apple account and I decided to configure it later in 
the wallet and hurray the item disappeared in my settings app.
So my conclusion: as you decide to update, do it at night and go to sleep after 
updating. Just configure it, leave your phone on the lightning connector and 
make sure it is connected with wifi and I am sure 7 our later, you can just set 
your phone to your needs without any problem.
I feel so sorry you have this bug but I never make calls with bluetooth or even 
wired headsets.
Regards, liebe Grüsse and thankx for your support Sieghard.
Davy 
Regards 
Davy 


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call 
bug

Davy,

 

It is no the iPhone which crashes totally, this bug seems to effect Voiceover 
and other sounds. I have had this happen, but afterwards my sighted wife said 
everything worked as normally on the phone except there was no sounds, i.e. 
Voiceover obviously was not talking, but also if I said Hey SIRI there was no 
triple tone to indicate SIRI was listening, but on the screen it came up and it 
was listening, when my wife called my phone did not ring, but on the screen she 
saw her incoming call and could answer it etc. Interestingly enough when this 
happens all vibrations are also disabled including the little vibration you get 
when you flick the mute switch and which is usually a good way to see if the 
phone is still on when Voiceover goes away. The only vibration you get is a 
very small bit of haptic feedback when you press the home button, at least for 
me I get it because I have an iPhone 8 with the virtual home button. Not sure 
if you would get anything on an iPhone 10 or, for that matter, on a 6S or 
earlier which still have the mechanical home button.

Toggling Voiceover off and back on occasionally fixes this, but not all the 
time. Sometimes it’s even gone after I call the phone from my landline at work 
or ask somebody to call it and I answer that call and then hang up.

It’s definitely a strange bug which some people have reported also happens for 
them with Skype or other Voip apps, for me it rarely happens if I only use the 
phone to answer calls or even with a Bluetooth headset, it usually happens if I 
use my wired Earpods, ask SIRI to call somebody and then hang up using the 
headset remote.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

 

Hi folks 

 

Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and 
are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the 
telephone or facetime app?

And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up 
later without the bug?

Regards 

Davy 

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is there a way to get rid of this message when I open an email from an email list?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
I get the following message whenever I open an email from this list, or other 
email lists.
This message is from a mailing list., Unsubscribe Button
I have looked in the settings app under mail, and cannot find a way to turn 
this off. I have tapped on the accompanying close button several times, but it 
continues with each new message from this list.
Is there a way of permanently getting rid of this message? I know which 
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Re: What is Vertical Scroll Bar

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The vertical scroll bar goes along the right edge of your device. It tells you 
where you are on the screen, and you can use it to move around the screen. If 
you touch it and flick up, you move 10% of the way up the screen. flick down to 
move down 10%. Or you can move more quickly by doing a double-tap and hold, 
then sliding your finger up or down.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
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> What is vertical scroll bar and is there a way to keep my phone from reading 
> that and it also says something like square and pencil so can I stop that 
> from reading too?
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What is Vertical Scroll Bar

[Shirley Baker]

What is vertical scroll bar and is there a way to keep my phone from reading 
that and it also says something like square and pencil so can I stop that from 
reading too?

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RE: Texting Problem

[sherrywells1157]

Do you leave the unsent text in your messages app?  If not, try leaving it 
there.  I find that if someone has messages in my messages app, the message 
goes through.  Also, apparently using the dictate option in the send message 
screen seems to work when using Siri does not.

 

This does seem to be a common problem as indicated in a whole string of posts 
on this topic recently.

 

Good luck,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bonnie 
Blose
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Texting Problem

 

I am having a strange problem with texts. I can send most without difficulty, 
but a close friend of mine who does have an IPhone is the one person I geg a  
failure to send every time I try. She just got an Iphone about six months ago. 
Before updates, we were exchanging them just fine. I don't know if she can send 
me one.

 

I have turned my phone off and that did not help my problem with my friend. It 
did repair the problem to a degree, because I did discover I could not send a 
text to anyone without a failure notice. After I turned the phone off and then 
back on, it straightened out the problem with  everyone except for this one 
friend. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

 

Hey Guys,

I don’t own an iPhone myself, I have an iPad Mini 4, so I have not encountered 
this problem personally. I’m asking for a friend of mine. She is pretty new to 
the iPhone and got an iPhone 7. She says that one frustration she is having is 
that when she calls a number and is prompted to enter numbers on the keypad 
with an automated system, she can’t hear what Voiceover is saying because the 
call audio is too loud.

Can anyone advise me on what to tell her as to how to bring down the call 
volume or bring up the Voiceover volume so she can hear what she is entering on 
the screen?

Thanks a bunch.

Evan

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RE: Question About Dictate

[Richard Turner]

Not that I'm aware of.
That is there to help people searching for Emails that cannot use the touch 
screen very well.


Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question About Dictate

I just updated my phone successfully, which is a 6S plus but my question is 
when I open the mail app, the first thing I see is dictate. Is there a way to 
move that or remove it from that spot or turn it off?

Sent from my iPhone

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Question About Dictate

[Shirley Baker]

I just updated my phone successfully, which is a 6S plus but my question is 
when I open the mail app, the first thing I see is dictate. Is there a way to 
move that or remove it from that spot or turn it off?

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Re: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

[Evan Reese]

Thanks Carolyn, I will tell her that.
But, just wondering, why does turning on Bluetooth change the volume of a 
call?

Thanks again.
Evan


-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

Tell your friend to turn on Bluetooth. Your friend can ask Siri to turn it 
on, then off, but that eliminates the problem. Also, a headset does, but 
Bluetooth is right in the phone - say to Siri, turn on Bluetooth; when 
through, say to Siri tyrn off Bluetooth. No problem at all.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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Of Evan Reese

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Subject: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

Hey Guys,
I don’t own an iPhone myself, I have an iPad Mini 4, so I have not 
encountered this problem personally. I’m asking for a friend of mine. She is 
pretty new to the iPhone and got an iPhone 7. She says that one frustration 
she is having is that when she calls a number and is prompted to enter 
numbers on the keypad with an automated system, she can’t hear what 
Voiceover is saying because the call audio is too loud.
Can anyone advise me on what to tell her as to how to bring down the call 
volume or bring up the Voiceover volume so she can hear what she is entering 
on the screen?

Thanks a bunch.
Evan

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Texting Problem

[Bonnie Blose]

I am having a strange problem with texts. I can send most without difficulty, 
but a close friend of mine who does have an IPhone is the one person I geg a  
failure to send every time I try. She just got an Iphone about six months ago. 
Before updates, we were exchanging them just fine. I don't know if she can send 
me one.

 

I have turned my phone off and that did not help my problem with my friend. It 
did repair the problem to a degree, because I did discover I could not send a 
text to anyone without a failure notice. After I turned the phone off and then 
back on, it straightened out the problem with  everyone except for this one 
friend. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

 

Hey Guys,

I don’t own an iPhone myself, I have an iPad Mini 4, so I have not encountered 
this problem personally. I’m asking for a friend of mine. She is pretty new to 
the iPhone and got an iPhone 7. She says that one frustration she is having is 
that when she calls a number and is prompted to enter numbers on the keypad 
with an automated system, she can’t hear what Voiceover is saying because the 
call audio is too loud.

Can anyone advise me on what to tell her as to how to bring down the call 
volume or bring up the Voiceover volume so she can hear what she is entering on 
the screen?

Thanks a bunch.

Evan

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Apple Watch Update changed something. How do I change it back?

[Kathy Blackburn]

I updated my Apple watch to OS Version 6 last night. The watch face I use had 
the weather in the top left corner. Prior to the update, it would say something 
like, "Sunny, 94 degrees." Now, it just says, "Fair" or "cloudy" or whatever 
the case may be. I know I can get the temperature by double-tapping where it 
gives the state of the sky, but I'd rather get the temperature without going 
through this extra step. Is there a setting or something to get the temperature 
to display as it did before?


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RE: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

[Carolyn Arnold]

Tell your friend to turn on Bluetooth. Your friend can ask Siri to turn it on, 
then off, but that eliminates the problem. Also, a headset does, but Bluetooth 
is right in the phone - say to Siri, turn on Bluetooth; when through, say to 
Siri tyrn off Bluetooth. No problem at all. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

Hey Guys,
I don’t own an iPhone myself, I have an iPad Mini 4, so I have not encountered 
this problem personally. I’m asking for a friend of mine. She is pretty new to 
the iPhone and got an iPhone 7. She says that one frustration she is having is 
that when she calls a number and is prompted to enter numbers on the keypad 
with an automated system, she can’t hear what Voiceover is saying because the 
call audio is too loud.
Can anyone advise me on what to tell her as to how to bring down the call 
volume or bring up the Voiceover volume so she can hear what she is entering on 
the screen?
Thanks a bunch.
Evan

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RE: Voice control on the 6S

[Carolyn Arnold]

I decided that too and turned the thing off. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
Control.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap whatever 
I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone know when 
I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but just start 
talking? 

Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
my Voice Mail. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
 
 
Richard
 
🖖 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
 
After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle 
switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:


I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control 
and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in 
the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
supported on the 6S?
 
Karl
 
 
 
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RE: I am really taken with your signature at the end of your email messages

[Carolyn Arnold]

I could not find his address.

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:30 AM
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messages

And why not send such messages off list to begin with?

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messages

Contact

4carol...@windstream.net


Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I am really taken with your signature at the end of your email messages

Hi Carolyn;
As my subject line says it looks like you are  quoting Padre Pio.
 please get in touch with me?
I would love to talk with you about this subject.
Padre Pio is responsible for bringing my girlfriend Lucy and I together.
(856) 885-1730

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

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RE: 8 or XR?

[Carolyn Arnold]

My husband has a Moto G 5, but it seems to still work. Financially, waiting one 
more year is appealing. We would not be able to get any trade for either phone, 
I don't think though. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

If you are trying to decide between buying an iPhone XR or 11 my advice would 
be to buy the iPhone 11 unless you really can't afford what it costs more. But 
then again if money is a big issue you really might want to consider the iPhone 
8 which will be much cheaper and it still is a very nice phone which is going 
to be good for at least 3 more years. Considering how most likely next year the 
new iPhones will support 5G connectivity and that will start to roll out over 
the next 2-3 years and also the talk about phones having both Face Id and Touch 
Id I'd think twice about upgrading this year if you have anything like an 
iPhone 8 or higher, even the SE still is a nice phone which for most people 
would be just fine for another year.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

Hi,
I believe if my memory serves me right the XR is suppose to go 18 hours and the 
11 is to go 19.
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:46 AM
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Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

Really? The 11 is fifty dolars more than the XR? I suppose that it may have 
even longer battery life? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

Hi Carolyn,
You might want to look at the new 11 as that is the replacement for the XR. The 
11 is I believe only $50 more than the XR.
Mr. Ed

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Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

I think I can adjust to the Power button on the right side, and Anna Dressner's 
book gives instructions for the X, where they are different from earlier 
iPhones. My main concern was for the time on the phone and the money paid, 
which would give the most mileage. However, your comment about improvements 
from the 8 help validate what I really want, which is the XR. 

One reason I want one, is that it will operate more like phones will be doing 
for a while. Yet, I realize, that by the time I have to replace, there could be 
major changes in newer models. So I'd say, going in, if I go in with that in 
mind, I'll just have to deal with whatever is down the line. 

Thanks for your input. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Michael Feir
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 8 or XR?

I would recommend the 10R. I'm quite happy with the one I just got and the A12 
chip should be supported by future iOS updates for years. Many changes were 
made first in the 8 so geting the 10R, you benefit from the lessons learned 
when things like wirelesss charging and other changes were first tried. Getting 
used to no home button really isn't a big deal and Face id works quite well. 

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:13 PM Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:


We intend to trade up in a month or so. So here is what I
wonder, and my husband says I know more about phones than
he, so he'd trust my conclusion. 

My question is, which would we get more mileage for the
money, an 8 or an XR? The XR sounds so tempting, but will an
8 k last almost as long?: 

I am interested in your opinions. 

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

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How to Fix Call Volume Obscuring VoiceOver on iPhone 7

[Evan Reese]

Hey Guys,
I don’t own an iPhone myself, I have an iPad Mini 4, so I have not encountered 
this problem personally. I’m asking for a friend of mine. She is pretty new to 
the iPhone and got an iPhone 7. She says that one frustration she is having is 
that when she calls a number and is prompted to enter numbers on the keypad 
with an automated system, she can’t hear what Voiceover is saying because the 
call audio is too loud.
Can anyone advise me on what to tell her as to how to bring down the call 
volume or bring up the Voiceover volume so she can hear what she is entering on 
the screen?
Thanks a bunch.
Evan

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RE: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

[Carolyn Arnold]

I am happy with Wi-Fi for calls. The only difference I can see is no more 
missed or dropped calls. 

People like Richard and Siegard would know better than I would, but I think it 
has to do with signals and what can be received more than another phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Traci Duncan
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

Hi all, a couple questions.

I’m having terrible phone reception. Does anyone have experience using the wifi 
calling option? Do you find it gives you better reception? Does it drain 
battery life?

Secondly, I’m using an iPhone 6s. Has phone reception improved with the newer 
iPhones? I’ve wondered if upgrading to a newer model may give me better call 
quality. Maybe there are more bands in the newer phones?

Thanks, 
Traci
 

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Re: Voice control on the 6S

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can use 
Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap restart," 
and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on a regular basis at this point either. It's 
really exciting for people who have limited use of their hands, though.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Sieghard.
> I've stated several times, it is focused at people who cannot manage the 
> touch gestures.
> It includes blind people who cannot do the touch gestures.
> Where I work, we have several clients who, for a wide variety of reasons, 
> cannot do the touch gestures and so have been limited to either a push button 
> phone, or using Siri or OK Google on Android.
> 
> This will be a great thing for them.
> 
> But, if you can do the touch gestures, don't bother with Voice Control.
> Or, set it so you can turn it on or off with the triple tap of the home 
> button for specific uses.
> 
> The one place I can see using it over Siri, is with dictation.  Since voice 
> control keeps everything on the device and you do not need internet 
> connectivity, it would be a better way to dictate text.
> 
> Otherwise, it is an interesting thing to play with, but unless you have a 10 
> or 11, and somewhat true with the 8's, it is rather slow to respond.
> 
> I only have gotten into it myself because of my job.
> 
> I would not use it for anything but dictation on my SE.  It just isn't 
> responsive enough.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
> Control.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
> wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap 
> whatever I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone 
> know when I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but 
> just start talking? 
> 
> Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
> my Voice Mail. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
> definitely work on a 6s.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>   On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
>   You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
> the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling 
> it.
>
>
>   Richard
>
>   🖖 Live long and prosper
>
>
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>  
> 
>  
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>   Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
>
>   After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
> VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a 
> toggle switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or 
> off.
> 
>
> 
>   Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>   On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith   > wrote:
> 
>   
>   I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control 
> and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back 
> in the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
> supported on the 6S?
>
>   Karl
>
>   

Re: choosing a Mac, was Re: SMB file sharing

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Your answer to that question will depend on what you use your computer for and 
why you specifically want a Mac.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 26, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
> 
> What I need help with is letting them know why a Mac over a Windows PC. 
>  
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
> learning start?*** 
>  
> From: Anna Dresner 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:15 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: choosing a Mac, was Re: SMB file sharing
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I don't know the details of the latest Macs. I would suggest going to an 
> Apple store so you can check them out and figure out which one might work for 
> you.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Robert Wright  > wrote:
>  
> Ann, could you write me off list. I have an opportunity to apply for a grant 
> to get a Mac.  I need help in deciding which Mac. Macbook or iMac. I have to 
> write a letter of justification.
>  
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
> learning start?*** 
>  
> From: Woody Anna Dresner 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:53 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: SMB file sharing
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Has anyone gotten this to work in Windows? I got it to work with my Mac, and 
> I found the IPV4 address for my Windows machine. I don't get any errors when 
> I try to connect my iPhone to my windows machine, but I don't see any Windows 
> files or folders on my iPhone. I've tried several Google searches and some 
> experimenting with no luck, and I confirmed that the iOS 13.1 manual has no 
> information about this
>  
> Thanks for any help,
> Anna
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RE: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marie,

I, too, love the Over Drive app.

I am currently running it successfully on both my iPad Pro with iPad OS 13.1 
and on an iPhone 11, with iOS 13.1.  

Currently, based on all of the wonderful threads in this group, I have no plans 
to update my 8 Plus to 13.1.  This is to say, I have not tested Over Drive on 
any phone older than iPhone 11.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:34 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

I have not heard anything about problems with the Overdrive app so not sure if 
I am alone on this. But I have tried everything to get this app to work and it 
crashes every time I try to add a title or a library or basically just to use 
it. I have been using this app successfully for quite some time before the 
update. But Before contacting the developer, I just wondered if anyone else is 
experiencing a problem.
I have tried deleting the app and re-installing and even deleted it, powered 
the phone off and back on and re-installing with no luck.
 
Thanks,
Marie
 
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Question on making calls from VOIP apps and Siri shortcuts

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Hello list,

So I haven’t really gotten into the whole shortcuts aspect of iOS, but I had
a question and was wondering with the new iOS 13.1 and the enhanced shortcut
capabilities if it were or if it’s been possible to initiate a call from a
VOIP app/service strictly with a voice command? I mainly use Hangouts or
Skype for business calls and would like to just speak out loud the number I
need to dial and have it go through one of these services as I don’t want
the recipient to see my actual cell number on their ID but rather my
business line.

So, can you create a shortcut for something like … hey Siri. Skype or
Hangouts XXX-XXX- or hey Siri. Skype or Hangouts business X, Y or Z? 

Not that it’s a huge deal to manually punch in a number, but sometimes I
have to make lots of calls and just being able to bark out the command
instead of going into Hangouts or Skype and entering the number would help
my workflow.

Thanks,

 

 

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RE: VoiceOver not speaking ETA in Uber app

[Francisco Salvador Crespo]

Hello.

This isssue hasn't been resolved for several weeks.
The screen where you select the car, origin and destination, doesn't allow to 
see the ETA and the selected pickup point, which are shown in the same field. 
At the same time it doesn't allow editing origin or destination.
A workaround for this is to press the button to select destination instead of 
choosing one of the suggestions that the app offers on main screen. Tha'ts how 
you can insure that both origin and destination are right before requesting the 
ride.
When your car is coming, you need to expand the card with all the driver's info 
to be able to see the ETA. Before this change, the ETA appeared in main screen 
and there was no need to expand the driver card.
Hope that with our reports they fix this at some point.

Best.

-Mensaje original-
De: viphone@googlegroups.com  En nombre de Harshit 
Jaithwar
Enviado el: jueves, 26 de septiembre de 2019 13:37
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Re: VoiceOver not speaking ETA in Uber app

Hello, my ETA issue is before requesting the ride and not after booking the 
right. After the booking I can get all the details of my driver ETA license 
plate number etc. 
please let me know any way out from this problem. 
Thank you!
  

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26-Sep-2019, at 21:22, 'Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I believe that it’s a problem with the app not voiceover. You need to 
> double tap on the drivers name and then it will take to another screen 
> and at the top it shows you the ETA. Hope this helps
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 6:07 AM, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
>> 
>> hello friends,
>> My voice-over not speaking ETA before requesting the ride in Uber app. I 
>> also tried to delete and reinstalling the app but the issue persist. 
>> This is the issue I am facing from iOS 12.4 and now facing in iOS 
>> 13.1 It is worth to note that vo  speaks ETA after booking the right but not 
>> before that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any help in this regard would be highly appreciable!
>> Thank you!
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RE: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

[Richard Turner]

OK, 1bar is not enough for a phone call.
You need at least 2 bars.

I’d move around your house and spot for several minutes in each location and 
see if you can sort out where the areas are that only have 1 bar.
Avoid those areas for phone calls.
Or, check with tMobile to see if they have a signal booster that might help.

But, checking if other phones hit 1 bar in those same areas would also be 
helpful.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone upgrade and carrier settings


My signal strength often fluctuates. It can be one out of four bars, then it 
can be three out of four bars. Frequently, people tell me I am cutting in and 
out. The other day while on a phone call, I was super garbled apparently. We 
switch to T-Mobile in June, and I swear for the first week it was great. Now 
it’s just kind of gone downhill. On a good note, we are saving money. LOL



I suppose it’s good news a new phone may not make a difference. I like my 6S 
just fine.



Should I turn the Wi-Fi calling back on and see if that helps things out?



Thanks,

Traci

PS, as a sidenote I had the battery replaced last year. Although it is already 
down to 88% capacity. Kind of disappointing.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Also, when you say terrible reception, how many cell bars are you seeing in 
the top left of the status bar?

Is this new?

Sieghard's suggestion of having someone else check their signal in your house 
would help.
I doubt a new phone will make that much difference, unless your phone is having 
issues.  If you have an Apple store you can go to, they could check it out.
Apple Accessibility may be able to run some remote debugging if you can't get 
to a store that might help.

877-204-3930


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

If you have a strong and good WiFi with a fast internet connection it almost 
certainly would improve things and no, I don't think this will make a 
significant difference on battery. If you have a 6S from when it came out 4 
years ago and have never replaced the battery, battery life is likely not the 
greatest any more anyways.
I can't say much about your second question, the easiest way to find out would 
be to ask if anybody in your family or circle of friends has an iPhone 8 or 
X/XR/XS model and ask them to come to your place, stay for an hour and then 
compare signal strength on both your phones.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

Hi all, a couple questions.

I’m having terrible phone reception. Does anyone have experience using the wifi 
calling option? Do you find it gives you better reception? Does it drain 
battery life?

Secondly, I’m using an iPhone 6s. Has phone reception improved with the newer 
iPhones? I’ve wondered if upgrading to a newer model may give me better call 
quality. Maybe there are more bands in the newer phones?

Thanks,
Traci


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Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

[Julian]

Not only that, you could also have a group of beta testers to give you this 
info. Nearby explorer used to have a beta program that I used to be part of. 
Perhaps that needs to be brought back.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would agree with that, even a small developer could put the Beta on their 
> device a month or 6 weeks after the June event, once it goes into the public 
> beta phase and we get to public beta 2 or 3 around mid July it’s definitely 
> stabile enough to be used on a daily bases and it’s not like it would put a 
> huge financial burden on somebody who wants to make money from this to buy a 
> used iPhone for testing.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
> Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> haha thats the most ridiculous explanation ever heard let’s pretend I am a 
> developer but I have no testing devices, poor developer then.
> Davy
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> Same happened with MBraille.  The developer said he didn’t have a device he 
> could put the beta on.  So, his devices must be only production devices … now 
> that the release versions are out there I hope all these developers will get 
> to work.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
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>  
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> I am surprised they didn’t test this, after all, Apple gives developers 
> access to upcoming versions many weeks in advance just so they can start to 
> test their apps with said version and to implement any changes or fixes.
> The same applies to Flicktype, apparently the developer said he was waiting 
> for iOS 13 to come out so he had a Stabil platform for testing, but to me 
> that is a pretty pure excuse, any developer had access to iOS 13 for over 3 
> months now.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> That’s why, it can be prudent, to wait a while before updating. Especially, 
> if you are dependent on an app.
>  
> Dave.
>  
>  
> From: Julian
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> Hi Chris,
>  
> As it happens, shortly after I sent a reply to your message, I saw the 
> following on the Nearby Explorer list. They are aware of the problem and are 
> working on a fix. See below for the actual message that was sent out on the 
> Nearby Explorer list:
>  
> Today Apple released its newest operating system, iOS 13.1. In testing, APH 
> discovered these new updates will cause issues with the paid version of 
> Nearby Explorer. We are working on a fix, but at this time one is not 
> imminent.
> If you wish to continue using the paid version of Nearby Explorer, we 
> recommend you wait to upgrade to iOS 13.1 at this time. If you do choose to 
> download the upgrade, you may still use the free version of Nearby Explorer, 
> Nearby Explorer Online, which is not affected by the updates.
> We will keep you updated as we continue to work for a solution, and apologize 
> for any inconvenience this will create.
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:24 PM, jsab...@cinci.rr.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Julian. Reporting something like this to Apple Feedback is not effective. 
> I’m actually looking for a developer contact at APH who produces the app. 
> I’ve found that generally just reporting an issue as Feedback in the App 
> Store is never effective.
>  
> Thanks Much,
>  
> Chris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I've been having the same problems with Nearby Explorer as well as several 
> other apps ever since the iOS 13.1 beta cycle started. I have been reporting 
> it to Apple over and over again via the Feedback app with every update iOS 
> 13.1 up through today and still not fixed.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Sep 24, 2019, at 11:37 AM, jsab...@cinci.rr.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all. I just upgraded my iPhone to IOS 13.1 and can no longer use Nearby 
> Explorer. The app just crashes. I uninstalled and re-installed the app twice 
> and redownloaded the onboard maps. Is there a person at APH that handles 
> support for this app who I can contact? Still using my old iPhone 6S.
>  
> Thanks Much,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
>  
> Christopher Sabine
> Nati

Re: VoiceOver not speaking ETA in Uber app

[Harshit Jaithwar]

Hello, my ETA issue is before requesting the ride and not after booking the 
right. After the booking I can get all the details of my driver ETA license 
plate number etc. 
please let me know any way out from this problem. 
Thank you!
  

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26-Sep-2019, at 21:22, 'Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I believe that it’s a problem with the app not voiceover. You need to double 
> tap on the drivers name and then it will take to another screen and at the 
> top it shows you the ETA. Hope this helps
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 6:07 AM, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
>> 
>> hello friends,
>> My voice-over not speaking ETA before requesting the ride in Uber app. I 
>> also tried to delete and reinstalling the app but the issue persist. 
>> This is the issue I am facing from iOS 12.4 and now facing in iOS 13.1
>> It is worth to note that vo  speaks ETA after booking the right but not 
>> before that. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any help in this regard would be highly appreciable!
>> Thank you!
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Overdrive app with IOS 13.1

[Marie]

I have not heard anything about problems with the Overdrive app so not sure if 
I am alone on this. But I have tried everything to get this app to work and it 
crashes every time I try to add a title or a library or basically just to use 
it. I have been using this app successfully for quite some time before the 
update. But Before contacting the developer, I just wondered if anyone else is 
experiencing a problem.
I have tried deleting the app and re-installing and even deleted it, powered 
the phone off and back on and re-installing with no luck.

Thanks,
Marie

Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers 
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Re: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

[Traci Duncan]

My signal strength often fluctuates. It can be one out of four bars, then it 
can be three out of four bars. Frequently, people tell me I am cutting in and 
out. The other day while on a phone call, I was super garbled apparently. We 
switch to T-Mobile in June, and I swear for the first week it was great. Now 
it’s just kind of gone downhill. On a good note, we are saving money. LOL

I suppose it’s good news a new phone may not make a difference. I like my 6S 
just fine.

Should I turn the Wi-Fi calling back on and see if that helps things out?

Thanks,
Traci
PS, as a sidenote I had the battery replaced last year. Although it is already 
down to 88% capacity. Kind of disappointing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Also, when you say terrible reception, how many cell bars are you seeing in 
> the top left of the status bar?
> 
> Is this new?
> 
> Sieghard's suggestion of having someone else check their signal in your house 
> would help.
> I doubt a new phone will make that much difference, unless your phone is 
> having issues.  If you have an Apple store you can go to, they could check it 
> out.
> Apple Accessibility may be able to run some remote debugging if you can't get 
> to a store that might help.
> 
> 877-204-3930
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Phone upgrade and carrier settings
> 
> If you have a strong and good WiFi with a fast internet connection it almost 
> certainly would improve things and no, I don't think this will make a 
> significant difference on battery. If you have a 6S from when it came out 4 
> years ago and have never replaced the battery, battery life is likely not the 
> greatest any more anyways.
> I can't say much about your second question, the easiest way to find out 
> would be to ask if anybody in your family or circle of friends has an iPhone 
> 8 or X/XR/XS model and ask them to come to your place, stay for an hour and 
> then compare signal strength on both your phones.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Phone upgrade and carrier settings
> 
> Hi all, a couple questions.
> 
> I’m having terrible phone reception. Does anyone have experience using the 
> wifi calling option? Do you find it gives you better reception? Does it drain 
> battery life?
> 
> Secondly, I’m using an iPhone 6s. Has phone reception improved with the newer 
> iPhones? I’ve wondered if upgrading to a newer model may give me better call 
> quality. Maybe there are more bands in the newer phones?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Traci
> 
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Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth

[Feliciano Godoy]

The. the Instant Pot Smart WiFi Is what you need.


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On Sep 26, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The Bluetooth model hasn’t been sold in at least a year or two, you can 
sometimes find used ones on Amazon.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth

I learned today that I was sold the wrong Instant Pot. This is the Duo which 
does not have Bluetooth.

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?***

From: Yolanda Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth

Yes you hold the adjust button down for three seconds and that puts it in 
pairing mode
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:

Am I suppose to hit a button on the pressure cooker to set up the Bluetooth 
with the app?

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Re: VoiceOver not speaking ETA in Uber app

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi’,
On ios 13.1 with the latest Uber app. I typed my destination and I’m on the 
screen where I can choose the type of Uber vehicle. I could see the estimated 
time if I work to request the ride.

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> On Sep 26, 2019, at 8:52 AM, 'Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone 
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> 
> I believe that it’s a problem with the app not voiceover. You need to double 
> tap on the drivers name and then it will take to another screen and at the 
> top it shows you the ETA. Hope this helps
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 6:07 AM, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
>> 
>> hello friends,
>> My voice-over not speaking ETA before requesting the ride in Uber app. I 
>> also tried to delete and reinstalling the app but the issue persist. 
>> This is the issue I am facing from iOS 12.4 and now facing in iOS 13.1
>> It is worth to note that vo  speaks ETA after booking the right but not 
>> before that. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any help in this regard would be highly appreciable!
>> Thank you!
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Re: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[lenron brown]

sometimes turning off and on voice over a few times fixes it, other
times I end up having to reset the phone. I can't wait for this one to
be fixed because it happens a few times a day.

On 9/26/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Davy,
>
> It is no the iPhone which crashes totally, this bug seems to effect
> Voiceover and other sounds. I have had this happen, but afterwards my
> sighted wife said everything worked as normally on the phone except there
> was no sounds, i.e. Voiceover obviously was not talking, but also if I said
> Hey SIRI there was no triple tone to indicate SIRI was listening, but on the
> screen it came up and it was listening, when my wife called my phone did not
> ring, but on the screen she saw her incoming call and could answer it etc.
> Interestingly enough when this happens all vibrations are also disabled
> including the little vibration you get when you flick the mute switch and
> which is usually a good way to see if the phone is still on when Voiceover
> goes away. The only vibration you get is a very small bit of haptic feedback
> when you press the home button, at least for me I get it because I have an
> iPhone 8 with the virtual home button. Not sure if you would get anything on
> an iPhone 10 or, for that matter, on a 6S or earlier which still have the
> mechanical home button.
> Toggling Voiceover off and back on occasionally fixes this, but not all the
> time. Sometimes it’s even gone after I call the phone from my landline at
> work or ask somebody to call it and I answer that call and then hang up.
> It’s definitely a strange bug which some people have reported also happens
> for them with Skype or other Voip apps, for me it rarely happens if I only
> use the phone to answer calls or even with a Bluetooth headset, it usually
> happens if I use my wired Earpods, ask SIRI to call somebody and then hang
> up using the headset remote.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy
> Cuppens
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call
> bug
>
> Hi folks
>
> Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and
> are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the
> telephone or facetime app?
> And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up
> later without the bug?
> Regards
> Davy
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Useful tip from Apple Accessibility to rescue upgrade problem

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I upgraded my iPhone XS and iPad Air 2 from iOS 12.4.1 to iOS 13.1 and on both 
devices the Settings app crashed every time two seconds after launching. Apple 
Accessibility suggested using tge new Find My app, find tge My Devices tan, 
find my affected device and choose to erase tge device. This was so useful, as 
I could not open the Settings app to reset all settings or reset anything! As 
it turned out, when I restored both devices from their iCloud backups, after a 
few hours of normal functioning, the Settings app started crashing again every 
time it was opened. So Apple Accessibility said to use it ge Find My app again 
to erase them both and then I had to set each one as a new device without 
restoring from backups of any sort - except good old keychain! So, a useful bit 
of advice in case this ever happens to anyone else!
Cheers
Harry

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RE: It keeps asking for my passcode

[Susie Stageberg]

Sandy and all,

 

I have Touch ID set (on a 7S). I am running 12, haven’t done 13.1 and am 
hesitant after some of what I’ve seen here. No, haven’t tried braille screen 
input; if I can’t even type on the number pad, I don’t have much faith in being 
able to do Braille! (grin) 

 

I’d love to talk to you. Let’s figure out a time to do that.

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandy Finley
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It keeps asking for my passcode

 

Suzie, several things here:

 

1. In iOS 13.1, go to Settings > Display Brightness to check your setting for 
Autolock. If you set it to  Never. your phone will lock only if you push the 
side button  to lock it yourself.I see no reason to have Apple lock it for me.

 

2. Go to Settings > Touch ID Passcode.   If you have an iPhone 8 or older and 
have not done so, set up Touch ID. Then you can specify the things to use Touch 
ID for and one is Unlock Phone.  If you have a newer phone with Face ID I 
cannot help.

 

3. I know what an excellent user of Braille  you are. Have you worked at all 
with Braille Screen Input? I love it!! Many of us, including yours truly, have 
absolutely not masterred typing on that. Screen.

 If you want some help with BSI, I’ll call you and we can catch up.

 

Your Old Friend

If these things do not help, call Apple Accessibility and don’t be dissuaded by 
the message that says to call them only when specifically working with 
VoiceOver. They know that everything is affected by VoiceOver!

  

 

 

Second, e?

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:07 AM, Brian K. Lingard  wrote:



Dear Susie & List:

Try calling Apple Accessibility 1 877 204-3930.

I am not aware of a setting to control this, however if there is one, Apple 
Accessibility Support should know of it.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Susie 
Stage erg
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: It keeps asking for my passcode

 

Evening all.

 

When I got my phone, I didn’t set up a passcode at first because I wasn’t sure 
I could dial the passcode on the phone itself. I’m still not good at this skill 
at all. When I updated to version 12, all of a sudden it comes up and asks for 
my passcode at random, and it seems like it’s more often than it was formerly. 
If I go to take the passcode away, Apple gets all excited and says it’s going 
to declare my phone a disaster area (smile) 

 

And before anyone says it, yes, I know the security risks of letting anybody 
and his brother into my phone. It’s one thing if it comes up and asks for the 
passcode and I’m at home where I can grab the blue tooth keyboard and key it’s 
in. It’s another thing if I’m out somewhere and go to use the phone, but it 
won’t let me in, and I have to try and type on the phone’s keypad, which I 
still have not mastered.

 

Is there some setting where I can control how often I am prompted for the 
passcode, or am I doomed here?

 

Susie

 

 

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Re: VoiceOver not speaking ETA in Uber app

['Annelie Robledo' via VIPhone]

I believe that it’s a problem with the app not voiceover. You need to double 
tap on the drivers name and then it will take to another screen and at the top 
it shows you the ETA. Hope this helps

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 6:07 AM, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
> 
> hello friends,
> My voice-over not speaking ETA before requesting the ride in Uber app. I also 
> tried to delete and reinstalling the app but the issue persist. 
> This is the issue I am facing from iOS 12.4 and now facing in iOS 13.1
> It is worth to note that vo  speaks ETA after booking the right but not 
> before that. 
> 
> 
> 
> Any help in this regard would be highly appreciable!
> Thank you!
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RE: iPhone SE and I always 13 and above and folders

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Same here, I also tried to open the folder first, I then had options to drop 
the folder I was dragging before or after the app I was in and which was inside 
the other folder and when I tapped to drop it before the app and then checked 
it was not there.
Then again this was just done for interest, I don’t see the point  in creating 
folders inside folders.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:36 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE and I always 13 and above and folders

Hi,

I heard the podcast demonstrating the feature, and if I go into Edit mode, 
choose to drag a folder, touch another folder, and flick up or down, one of the 
options is Add to Folder. However, when I double-tap this option, the folder 
lands on the desktop next to the folder I wanted to add it to. This is on an 
iPHone X. So I don't think the feature actually works.

Best,
Anna





On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

My question here would be why one would want to put a folder in a folder, but I 
guess to each their own.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE and I always 13 and above and folders

On one of the Applevis “What’s new with iOS13) podcast (I believe it was Part2) 
they talked and showed how it works.


  Enviado desde 
Correopara Windows 10

De: Richard Turner
Enviado: martes, 24 de septiembre de 2019 04:48 p. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Re: iPhone SE and I always 13 and above and folders

Thank you. So this is about nesting folders.
I had not heard anything about this.
Can you point me to some documentation?
Is this for both iPad OS and iOS?
I've been on the betas since iOS 13 and have heard nothing.

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 24, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes my SE with 13 doesn’t want to nest folders. Might it be it’s not finished 
or polished yet as they say it is?


  Enviado desde 
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 para Windows 10

De: Jenny Bomareto
Enviado: martes, 24 de septiembre de 2019 01:44 p. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: iPhone SE and I always 13 and above and folders

Does anyone have an iPhone SE running 13.1 LF  That is having problem put in a 
folder in a folder  You are supposed to be able to put folders invi folders now 
we're on our way 13 and above  But you cannot do the using voice over using the 
iPhone SE anyhow  Don't know about all the model telephone running iOS 13 and 
above


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RE: Voice control on the 6S

[Richard Turner]

I agree with Sieghard.
I've stated several times, it is focused at people who cannot manage the touch 
gestures.
It includes blind people who cannot do the touch gestures.
Where I work, we have several clients who, for a wide variety of reasons, 
cannot do the touch gestures and so have been limited to either a push button 
phone, or using Siri or OK Google on Android.

This will be a great thing for them.

But, if you can do the touch gestures, don't bother with Voice Control.
Or, set it so you can turn it on or off with the triple tap of the home button 
for specific uses.

The one place I can see using it over Siri, is with dictation.  Since voice 
control keeps everything on the device and you do not need internet 
connectivity, it would be a better way to dictate text.

Otherwise, it is an interesting thing to play with, but unless you have a 10 or 
11, and somewhat true with the 8's, it is rather slow to respond.

I only have gotten into it myself because of my job.

I would not use it for anything but dictation on my SE.  It just isn't 
responsive enough.




Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
Control.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap whatever 
I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone know when 
I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but just start 
talking? 

Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
my Voice Mail. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
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You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
 
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
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Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
 
After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle 
switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

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I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control 
and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in 
the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
supported on the 6S?
 
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Re: choosing a Mac, was Re: SMB file sharing

[Keith Bierman]

Do you need (or would have great benefit) from portability? If so, the iMac
shouldn't be under consideration. Lovely machine, but at the far end from
portable. But I agree with the suggestion to hit up the local Apple store.
Don't neglect asking about older/refurbished models ... often not on
display, but Apple usually has a large number available ... the folks in
store might be able to help you try out the nearest current model.

Aside from the obvious (processor, memory, disk/ssd) the biggest usability
differences are the keyboards (older tends to be better ;<) and available
ports (newest models are all USB C ... which means dongles to use most
external devices) ...

Keith Bierman
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:15 PM Anna Dresner  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't know the details of the latest Macs. I would suggest going to an
> Apple store so you can check them out and figure out which one might work
> for you.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Robert Wright 
> wrote:
>
> Ann, could you write me off list. I have an opportunity to apply for a
> grant to get a Mac.  I need help in deciding which Mac. Macbook or iMac. I
> have to write a letter of justification.
>
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
> learning start?***
>
> *From: *Woody Anna Dresner 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:53 PM
> *To: *VIPhone Mailing List 
> *Subject: *SMB file sharing
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone gotten this to work in Windows? I got it to work with my Mac,
> and I found the IPV4 address for my Windows machine. I don't get any errors
> when I try to connect my iPhone to my windows machine, but I don't see any
> Windows files or folders on my iPhone. I've tried several Google searches
> and some experimenting with no luck, and I confirmed that the iOS 13.1
> manual has no information about this
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Anna
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RE: Voice control on the 6S

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
Control.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap whatever 
I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone know when 
I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but just start 
talking? 

Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
my Voice Mail. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
 
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
 
After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle 
switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:


I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control 
and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in 
the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
supported on the 6S?
 
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RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would agree with that, even a small developer could put the Beta on their 
device a month or 6 weeks after the June event, once it goes into the public 
beta phase and we get to public beta 2 or 3 around mid July it’s definitely 
stabile enough to be used on a daily bases and it’s not like it would put a 
huge financial burden on somebody who wants to make money from this to buy a 
used iPhone for testing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

haha thats the most ridiculous explanation ever heard let’s pretend I am a 
developer but I have no testing devices, poor developer then.
Davy

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

Same happened with MBraille.  The developer said he didn’t have a device he 
could put the beta on.  So, his devices must be only production devices … now 
that the release versions are out there I hope all these developers will get to 
work.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

I am surprised they didn’t test this, after all, Apple gives developers access 
to upcoming versions many weeks in advance just so they can start to test their 
apps with said version and to implement any changes or fixes.
The same applies to Flicktype, apparently the developer said he was waiting for 
iOS 13 to come out so he had a Stabil platform for testing, but to me that is a 
pretty pure excuse, any developer had access to iOS 13 for over 3 months now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

That’s why, it can be prudent, to wait a while before updating. Especially, if 
you are dependent on an app.

Dave.


From: Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

Hi Chris,

As it happens, shortly after I sent a reply to your message, I saw the 
following on the Nearby Explorer list. They are aware of the problem and are 
working on a fix. See below for the actual message that was sent out on the 
Nearby Explorer list:

Today Apple released its newest operating system, iOS 13.1. In testing, APH 
discovered these new updates will cause issues with the paid version of Nearby 
Explorer. We are working on a fix, but at this time one is not imminent.
If you wish to continue using the paid version of Nearby Explorer, we recommend 
you wait to upgrade to iOS 13.1 at this time. If you do choose to download the 
upgrade, you may still use the free version of Nearby Explorer, Nearby Explorer 
Online, which is not affected by the updates.
We will keep you updated as we continue to work for a solution, and apologize 
for any inconvenience this will create.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:24 PM, jsab...@cinci.rr.com 
wrote:

Hi Julian. Reporting something like this to Apple Feedback is not effective. 
I’m actually looking for a developer contact at APH who produces the app. I’ve 
found that generally just reporting an issue as Feedback in the App Store is 
never effective.

Thanks Much,

Chris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

Hi,

I've been having the same problems with Nearby Explorer as well as several 
other apps ever since the iOS 13.1 beta cycle started. I have been reporting it 
to Apple over and over again via the Feedback app with every update iOS 13.1 up 
through today and still not fixed.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2019, at 11:37 AM, jsab...@cinci.rr.com 
wrote:

Hello all. I just upgraded my iPhone to IOS 13.1 and can no longer use Nearby 
Explorer. The app just crashes. I uninstalled and re-installed the app twice 
and redownloaded the onboard maps. Is there a person at APH that handles 
support for this app who I can contact? Still using my old iPhone 6S.

Thanks Much,

Chris



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RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Bluetooth model hasn’t been sold in at least a year or two, you can 
sometimes find used ones on Amazon.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Instant Pot Bluetooth

I learned today that I was sold the wrong Instant Pot. This is the Duo which 
does not have Bluetooth.

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?***

From: Yolanda Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Bluetooth

Yes you hold the adjust button down for three seconds and that puts it in 
pairing mode
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:

Am I suppose to hit a button on the pressure cooker to set up the Bluetooth 
with the app?

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RE: I am really taken with your signature at the end of your email messages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And why not send such messages off list to begin with?

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Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I am really taken with your signature at the end of your email 
messages

Contact

4carol...@windstream.net


Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I am really taken with your signature at the end of your email messages

Hi Carolyn;
As my subject line says it looks like you are  quoting Padre Pio.
 please get in touch with me?
I would love to talk with you about this subject.
Padre Pio is responsible for bringing my girlfriend Lucy and I together.
(856) 885-1730

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

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RE: Pass code.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you can dial a phone number you can also enter a passcode.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pass code.

If I make a pass code, how am I going to know which numbers I am dialing, 
please? 

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RE: 8 or XR?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you are trying to decide between buying an iPhone XR or 11 my advice would 
be to buy the iPhone 11 unless you really can't afford what it costs more. But 
then again if money is a big issue you really might want to consider the iPhone 
8 which will be much cheaper and it still is a very nice phone which is going 
to be good for at least 3 more years. Considering how most likely next year the 
new iPhones will support 5G connectivity and that will start to roll out over 
the next 2-3 years and also the talk about phones having both Face Id and Touch 
Id I'd think twice about upgrading this year if you have anything like an 
iPhone 8 or higher, even the SE still is a nice phone which for most people 
would be just fine for another year.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

Hi,
I believe if my memory serves me right the XR is suppose to go 18 hours and the 
11 is to go 19.
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

Really? The 11 is fifty dolars more than the XR? I suppose that it may have 
even longer battery life? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

Hi Carolyn,
You might want to look at the new 11 as that is the replacement for the XR. The 
11 is I believe only $50 more than the XR.
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 8 or XR?

I think I can adjust to the Power button on the right side, and Anna Dressner's 
book gives instructions for the X, where they are different from earlier 
iPhones. My main concern was for the time on the phone and the money paid, 
which would give the most mileage. However, your comment about improvements 
from the 8 help validate what I really want, which is the XR. 

One reason I want one, is that it will operate more like phones will be doing 
for a while. Yet, I realize, that by the time I have to replace, there could be 
major changes in newer models. So I'd say, going in, if I go in with that in 
mind, I'll just have to deal with whatever is down the line. 

Thanks for your input. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 8 or XR?

I would recommend the 10R. I'm quite happy with the one I just got and the A12 
chip should be supported by future iOS updates for years. Many changes were 
made first in the 8 so geting the 10R, you benefit from the lessons learned 
when things like wirelesss charging and other changes were first tried. Getting 
used to no home button really isn't a big deal and Face id works quite well. 

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:13 PM Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:


We intend to trade up in a month or so. So here is what I
wonder, and my husband says I know more about phones than
he, so he'd trust my conclusion. 

My question is, which would we get more mileage for the
money, an 8 or an XR? The XR sounds so tempting, but will an
8 k last almost as long?: 

I am interested in your opinions. 

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RE: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

[Richard Turner]

Also, when you say terrible reception, how many cell bars are you seeing in the 
top left of the status bar?

Is this new?

Sieghard's suggestion of having someone else check their signal in your house 
would help.
I doubt a new phone will make that much difference, unless your phone is having 
issues.  If you have an Apple store you can go to, they could check it out.
Apple Accessibility may be able to run some remote debugging if you can't get 
to a store that might help.

877-204-3930


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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:58 AM
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Subject: RE: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

If you have a strong and good WiFi with a fast internet connection it almost 
certainly would improve things and no, I don't think this will make a 
significant difference on battery. If you have a 6S from when it came out 4 
years ago and have never replaced the battery, battery life is likely not the 
greatest any more anyways.
I can't say much about your second question, the easiest way to find out would 
be to ask if anybody in your family or circle of friends has an iPhone 8 or 
X/XR/XS model and ask them to come to your place, stay for an hour and then 
compare signal strength on both your phones.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:54 AM
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Subject: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

Hi all, a couple questions.

I’m having terrible phone reception. Does anyone have experience using the wifi 
calling option? Do you find it gives you better reception? Does it drain 
battery life?

Secondly, I’m using an iPhone 6s. Has phone reception improved with the newer 
iPhones? I’ve wondered if upgrading to a newer model may give me better call 
quality. Maybe there are more bands in the newer phones?

Thanks, 
Traci
 

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RE: Question about getting my Alex voice back on Apple TV HD

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am pretty sure there is a Reboot option in the menu somewhere, otherwise 
pulling the power cord and plugging it back in after 20 or 30 seconds works 
just fine.


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Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:06 AM
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Subject: Re: Question about getting my Alex voice back on Apple TV HD

To be honest, I’m not even sure how to reboot the Apple TV. I would try that. I 
guess I will see if I can find something on Google.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried to reboot or simply unplug it and plug it in again after 30 
> seconds?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
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> Subject: Question about getting my Alex voice back on Apple TV HD
> 
> I just updated my Apple TV HD to the latest iOS. Update went smoothly, but it 
> came up with the Samantha voice talking, and not even enhanced, just the 
> regular one. I went into voiceover speech and Alex was still selected. I 
> clicked on it with the remote, it said retrieving info, and then said it 
> required an 800 and some megabyte download. I clicked on it again, and it 
> keeps telling me it requires this big download. But nothing is happening 
> apparently. I went to a different voice, Siri mail, which requires 400 and 
> some. That apparently downloaded. At least, I got percentages of download 
> until it stopped. But that one doesn’t play either, and when I click on it 
> now, it simply says it requires 490 some megabytes download. What the heck is 
> going on?
> Mary
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RE: 2 ios13.1 bug questions

[Richard Turner]

You said:

  1.  what about brail editing and typing in ios13.1 with a brail display, is 
it buggy or as smooth as it was in ios11 and ios12 after updating to 13.1?

2. What about the bug of the voiceover sounds sounding much harder than the 
voiceover speech level. is this bug still there or resolved?
 From Applevis.com: • Braille input once again works correctly when composing 
an email or note.
• When composing an email with a braille display, the VoiceOver cursor now 
behaves consistently.
• System sounds (such as notifications) now much more reliably follow the 
volume of VoiceOver, even when "Change with Buttons" is disabled in Settings>


For the complete list, see:
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-releases-ios-131-and-ipados-131-bringing-many-bug-fixes-and-some-new-bugs-blind-and-low

HTH,

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RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Davy,

It is no the iPhone which crashes totally, this bug seems to effect Voiceover 
and other sounds. I have had this happen, but afterwards my sighted wife said 
everything worked as normally on the phone except there was no sounds, i.e. 
Voiceover obviously was not talking, but also if I said Hey SIRI there was no 
triple tone to indicate SIRI was listening, but on the screen it came up and it 
was listening, when my wife called my phone did not ring, but on the screen she 
saw her incoming call and could answer it etc. Interestingly enough when this 
happens all vibrations are also disabled including the little vibration you get 
when you flick the mute switch and which is usually a good way to see if the 
phone is still on when Voiceover goes away. The only vibration you get is a 
very small bit of haptic feedback when you press the home button, at least for 
me I get it because I have an iPhone 8 with the virtual home button. Not sure 
if you would get anything on an iPhone 10 or, for that matter, on a 6S or 
earlier which still have the mechanical home button.
Toggling Voiceover off and back on occasionally fixes this, but not all the 
time. Sometimes it’s even gone after I call the phone from my landline at work 
or ask somebody to call it and I answer that call and then hang up.
It’s definitely a strange bug which some people have reported also happens for 
them with Skype or other Voip apps, for me it rarely happens if I only use the 
phone to answer calls or even with a Bluetooth headset, it usually happens if I 
use my wired Earpods, ask SIRI to call somebody and then hang up using the 
headset remote.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

Hi folks

Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and 
are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the 
telephone or facetime app?
And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up 
later without the bug?
Regards
Davy
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2 ios13.1 bug questions

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

1. what about brail editing and typing in ios13.1 with a brail display, is it 
buggy or as smooth as it was in ios11 and ios12 after updating to 13.1?

2. What about the bug of the voiceover sounds sounding much harder than the 
voiceover speech level. is this bug still there or resolved?
If those 2 bugs are resolved, I will update my phone too.
Regards
Davy 

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RE: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you have a strong and good WiFi with a fast internet connection it almost 
certainly would improve things and no, I don't think this will make a 
significant difference on battery. If you have a 6S from when it came out 4 
years ago and have never replaced the battery, battery life is likely not the 
greatest any more anyways.
I can't say much about your second question, the easiest way to find out would 
be to ask if anybody in your family or circle of friends has an iPhone 8 or 
X/XR/XS model and ask them to come to your place, stay for an hour and then 
compare signal strength on both your phones.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone upgrade and carrier settings

Hi all, a couple questions.

I’m having terrible phone reception. Does anyone have experience using the wifi 
calling option? Do you find it gives you better reception? Does it drain 
battery life?

Secondly, I’m using an iPhone 6s. Has phone reception improved with the newer 
iPhones? I’ve wondered if upgrading to a newer model may give me better call 
quality. Maybe there are more bands in the newer phones?

Thanks, 
Traci
 

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Phone upgrade and carrier settings

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, a couple questions.

I’m having terrible phone reception. Does anyone have experience using the wifi 
calling option? Do you find it gives you better reception? Does it drain 
battery life?

Secondly, I’m using an iPhone 6s. Has phone reception improved with the newer 
iPhones? I’ve wondered if upgrading to a newer model may give me better call 
quality. Maybe there are more bands in the newer phones?

Thanks, 
Traci
 

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RE: Voice control on the 6S

[Carolyn Arnold]

Maybe I'd be better off to just turn it off? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Once it is on; it is on until you turn it off. 
The main point of Voice Control is for people who cannot use the touch screen. 
Those who are paralyzed, maybe has Parkinson's or another condition that causes 
tremors, etc.
Anyone with poor finger dexterity. 
They have built in some specific VoiceOver commands though.
Say you have Voice Control on.
You are in Safari on a web page, and you want to go to the home screen, but 
don't want to reach over and tap the home button.
Just say "go home." 
You'll be at the home screen.
HTH,


Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



On Sep 25, 2019, at 5:14 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:



So, going into Voice Control, you turn on what you want, but how do 
you call up Voice Control? Is it on all the time? Do you just give whatever is 
an appropriate command? 

I hopw time will permit me to check your information tomorrow. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Once Voice Control is turned on under Voice Control settings, you just 
talk. 
Be aware that it is constantly listening; so if you are in an edit box, 
anything it hears will be dictated.
Yes, it is a battery hog since, again, it is always monitoring the 
microphone.
I have set my phone up with Voice Control in the accessibility shortcut 
so I can triple tap home to turn it on.
I use Siri to turn on VoiceOver.
Again, if Voice Control is on, you do not have to touch the phone, just 
issue your command.
Given that the commands are 9 pages long in a word document, er is a 
bit of a learning curve.
If you want the word document, it is on my web page: 
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0b8cc28faaa441cc4b1b08d742167a7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637050536615678325&sdata=gnj9pt4Ry%2BKew4%2FztYGtr%2B3KuXgNDGgupwNm4oUBubk%3D&reserved=0


Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



   On Sep 25, 2019, at 1:44 PM, karl Smith  wrote:
   
   

    

   I did get it to work finally but afterwards my battery went down the 
toilet. I started at 100% at about 10:30 am and my phone died because of a low 
battery by about 12:30 during which time I didn’t make or receive a call or 
send or receive any text messages. The phone got quite warm as well. I’ll turn 
it off for a while and see if that helps or if this is a symptom of 13.1.



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   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Anna Dresner
   Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:57 AM
   To: VIPhone Mailing List 
   Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S



   Hi,



   Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it 
should definitely work on a 6s.



   Best,

   Anna



   
   
   

   On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:



   You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple 
tap of the home button or side switch can give the option of enablin

Re: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Michael Feir]

I've experienced this bug. Provided you have your accessibility shortcut
set for VoiceOver, recovery is pretty simple. Click the home button three
times quickly if your device has one. If not, do this with the action
button on the right side of your iPHONE. You need to do this once to turn
VoiceOver off completely and then again to turn it back on. This starts it
fresh and it should work as normal. Sometimes, you need to triple click the
home or action button a few times before VoiceOver comes back. Just be
certain you leave a pause between sets of three clicks. Half a second's
wait should do it. The danger here is that you may click fast enough so
that five rapid clicks get registered. This activates the emergency SOS
feature unless you go into settings and disable call using side button. If
yOu disable this, you don't have to worry. Should you need to use emergency
SOS and you've disabled the call using side button option, simply hold the
side button and a volume button down for around a second and a half. A menu
will pop up and you can either shut down or activate SOS mode. Hope this
helps.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Wayne Merritt  wrote:

> I think I experienced this a couple of nights ago. I don't get many
> calls, but when my wife called me back after us getting disconnected,
> I was not able to use the magic tap gesture to answer the call, and
> did not get any feedback from VoiceOver at all. I did not have to
> totally restart my phone though, I just restarted VoiceOver and
> everything was fine. I'm not sure how one would restart their phone if
> there was no speech at all. While this behavior was annoying and
> frustrating, I don't get many calls so I can live with it until Apple
> fixes the issue.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 9/26/19, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> > Hi folks
> >
> > Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally
> and
> > are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of
> the
> > telephone or facetime app?
> > And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang
> up
> > later without the bug?
> > Regards
> > Davy
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[Janet Wright]

hi does any one know how to create a pole on the face book ap i can't 
find where to do it it used to be with the options like back ground 
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iOS 13 Battery Life Bad? Tips to Fix Battery Drain in iOS 13

[Richard Turner]

iOS 13 Battery Life Bad? Tips to Fix Battery Drain in iOS 13
By Paul Horowitz

How’s your battery life since updating to iOS 13? If you recently updated to 
iOS 13 and now feel like iPhone battery is worse or draining faster than usual, 
then you’re probably not alone. Every year, when a new iOS release comes out, 
with it comes a host of complaints about draining battery and reduced battery 
life, and with iOS 13 there is no exception with some users who feel their 
devices battery is much worse than before.

If you think battery life has decreased since updating to iOS 13, read on to 
learn why this might be, and what you can do about it to improve battery life 
in iOS 13.

10 Tips to Fix iOS 13 Battery Life Draining Issues

Here are ten tips and tricks to help resolve bad battery life with iOS 13 and 
ipadOS 13.

1: Just updated to iOS 13 and battery life is worse? Patience!

If you just now updated to iOS 13 (or sometime quite recently) and have 
discovered battery life is notably worse on an iPhone with iOS 13, there may be 
a good reason for that and it’s directly related to updating iOS system 
software, so don’t freak out because this will likely resolve on it’s own.

When you update to iOS 13, iOS will go through a variety of background tasks 
and maintenance activity, including things like indexing the device with 
Spotlight, Photos, finalizing restores with iCloud, other iCloud activity, 
amongst other system-level tasks. Not everyone notices any change in battery as 
a result of this background activity, but some users may feel like their 
battery is draining quicker than before.

Not to worry, the solution to this is as simple as can be: plug in the iPhone, 
iPad, or iPod touch, and wait.

A great time to do this is just plug in your device that just installed iOS 13 
and leave it plugged in to charge over night, and make sure it’s connected to 
wi-fi. Depending on how much stuff is on the iPhone or iPad, usually it only 
takes a few hours, but sometimes it may take a day or two for things to settle 
down, particularly if the device is restoring a ton of stuff from iCloud or 
syncing data from elsewhere.

2: Install New Software Updates to iOS and Apps

iOS 
13
 came out and was quickly followed by iOS 13.1 on September 24, so be sure you 
check for and install new iOS system software updates when they arrive.

You can check for new iOS updates by going to Settings app > General > Software 
Update

Likewise, you might want to update apps as well, since some may have bugs that 
were patched. With iOS 13 and later, you can update apps by going to App Store 
> Click your profile icon in the corner > Updates

Software updates often contain bug fixes and improvements, and if something 
like a bug or known issue is impacting battery life it’s likely to be resolved 
in a future software update.

3: See What’s Consuming iOS 13 Battery Life

You can easily see what apps and activity is using your battery by going to the 
iOS Settings app:

  *   Open the Settings app and then choose “Battery”
  *   Look through the list to see what apps and services are using battery

You’ll often find that apps that use video or location drain a lot of battery, 
so things like social networks, video streaming, and games are often high 
consumers of battery power.

If you see an app that is draining battery but you don’t even use the app, 
simply deleting the app from iOS 13 is likely reasonable – why keep something 
you don’t use anyway?

4: Check if Battery is Healthy & Operating Properly

You can check iPhone battery 
health
 through Battery settings as well.

  *   Open the Settings app and then choose “Battery”
  *   Go to “Battery Health”

If the battery is not operating at peak performance it may need to be replaced 
to restore full functionality and expected battery life to the iPhone.

5: Disable Background App Refresh in iOS

Background App Refresh allows apps in the background to stay updated and 
refresh themselves, but doing so can have a negative impact on battery life 
because it means that inactive apps can still use resources on the iPhone or 
iPad.

  *   Open the “Settings” app, then go to “General”
  *   Choose “Background App Refresh” and turn this switch to the OFF position

Disabling Background App Refresh on 
iPhone

RE: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Richard Turner]

I had a client who was on the beta of iOS 13.1 last week who has an iPhone 7, 
who experienced this issue several times.
When he came in for our training session, I called his phone and I answered it 
and the phone worked fine.
I called his phone again and he answered it and it locked up.
He did the power button/home button reboot.
After that, he didn’t experience it again.
It certainly is not a wide spread issue.
But, if it keeps happening, you will need to deal with Apple directly.

You could try a reset of network settings I suppose but if it keeps up after 
that, then it is time to contact Apple.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

Hi folks

Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and 
are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the 
telephone or facetime app?
And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up 
later without the bug?
Regards
Davy
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Re: for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Wayne Merritt]

I think I experienced this a couple of nights ago. I don't get many
calls, but when my wife called me back after us getting disconnected,
I was not able to use the magic tap gesture to answer the call, and
did not get any feedback from VoiceOver at all. I did not have to
totally restart my phone though, I just restarted VoiceOver and
everything was fine. I'm not sure how one would restart their phone if
there was no speech at all. While this behavior was annoying and
frustrating, I don't get many calls so I can live with it until Apple
fixes the issue.

Wayne

On 9/26/19, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and
> are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the
> telephone or facetime app?
> And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up
> later without the bug?
> Regards
> Davy
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for ios13.1 updaters who is affected by the severe telephone call bug

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

Are there people affected by the bug that causes iphone to crash totally and 
are to be restarted from a cold reset after ending a phone call out of the 
telephone or facetime app?
And mybe a workaround : what about asking siri to call someone and hang up 
later without the bug?
Regards 
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My automation shortcut did not run

[Ryan Mann]

I am running IOS 13.1.  I created a personal automation shortcut in the 
Shortcuts app.  TuneIn Radio supports an action to play the last played 
station, so I added that action to the shortcut.  I set it to run at 6:30 AM on 
week days.  I thought that at 6:30 this morning, TuneIn would start playing the 
last station that I played.  Is this a bug or am I missing something?
Thanks.

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VoiceOver not speaking ETA in Uber app

[Harshit Jaithwar]

hello friends,
My voice-over not speaking ETA before requesting the ride in Uber app. I also 
tried to delete and reinstalling the app but the issue persist. 
This is the issue I am facing from iOS 12.4 and now facing in iOS 13.1
It is worth to note that vo  speaks ETA after booking the right but not before 
that. 



Any help in this regard would be highly appreciable!
Thank you!
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