RE: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

[bentleyj1952]

Sieghard said in part,

First pressing Volume Up, then Volume down and then pressing and holding the 
power button is forcing a hard reset 


How long do you have to hold down the power button when doing a forced reset?

Is that the last step in doing a forced reset or, do you have to also tap 
something on the screen to finish the forced reset?

Thank you Sieghard,

James B 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:39 PM
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Subject: RE: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

If all you want to do is to turn your phone off, just press the power button 
and hold it until the "Power off" button appears, Voiceover will announce it, 
then just double tap and that's it.
First pressing Volume Up, then Volume down and then pressing and holding the 
power button is forcing a hard reset, really only necessary if your phone has 
locked up or is not eresponding in any other way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

To power your phone off, press volume up or down button along with the side 
button for a couple of seconds. Then you will want to double tap on power off.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi
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> On May 2, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> This happened to me again today. I tried powering my phone off.
> 
> I thought to power off I was to press Volume Up and Volume, then hold 
> in Power key. I went wrong somewhere.
> 
> To be more specific, should I hold Volume Up and Volume Down a few 
> seconds, and then, how long should I hold Power Button to turn off? 
> Then, when ready to turn back on, how long should I turn on the Power 
> Button. I think I asked this before. I will make note of any 
> instructions for the future.
> 
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RE: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Anna,

OK, I never paid attention since I only press Volume up and Volume down if I 
want to force a reset.
There maybe fewer controls on that screen, but whenever I press and hold the 
power button, after a few seconds Voiceover says "Power off" and that is the 
button which has focus so all I do is double tap and the phone powers down.

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Dresner
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

Hi Sieghard,

If you press Volume Up, then Volume Down, and only hold the Power button for a 
couple of seconds, a simple screen with a Power Off button opens. I use this 
method to shut down all the time, and I think the result is exactly like the 
method you describe except the Power Off screen has fewer controls on it. If 
you hold the Power button for 10 seconds or so, a reset happens.

Best,
Anna


> On May 2, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If all you want to do is to turn your phone off, just press the power button 
> and hold it until the "Power off" button appears, Voiceover will announce it, 
> then just double tap and that's it.
> First pressing Volume Up, then Volume down and then pressing and holding the 
> power button is forcing a hard reset, really only necessary if your phone has 
> locked up or is not eresponding in any other way.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.
> 
> To power your phone off, press volume up or down button along with the side 
> button for a couple of seconds. Then you will want to double tap on power off.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
>> On May 2, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> This happened to me again today. I tried powering my phone off.
>> 
>> I thought to power off I was to press Volume Up and Volume, then hold 
>> in Power key. I went wrong somewhere.
>> 
>> To be more specific, should I hold Volume Up and Volume Down a few 
>> seconds, and then, how long should I hold Power Button to turn off?
>> Then, when ready to turn back on, how long should I turn on the Power 
>> Button. I think I asked this before. I will make note of any 
>> instructions for the future.
>> 
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Richard Turner]

Yes, but it works better on the newer devices with the faster processors.


Richard
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On May 2, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Robin  wrote:

 Hey Mr.Richard,

Does  the  VoiceControl from Apple's iOS13 Extend to All of Apple's iOS 
Devices, which are capable of running  Apple's iOS13 From Apple's iPhone6S & 
iPhone6S+ & iPhoneSE to the 11 Series of Apple's iPhone?

Blessin'sAgain
At 06:52 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote:
Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice 
Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri.
It was introduced in iOS 13.
'
http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx


Richard

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On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com"  
wrote:

 Hello,
Do you mean Siri when you said voice control?
If yes, in french it doesn't work.
If not, give me more explanation please.

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner  a écrit :

 If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the 
screen curtain will toggle between on and off.
If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on.


Richard

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On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com"  
wrote:

 Hello,
Can you give more informations how to do it?

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 Ã  07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  a 
écrit :


Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give  
a command to turn screen curtain on or off.
Harry

On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:


Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
curtain on.
Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.




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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi Robin and everyone ,Robin, SIRI can't acctivate the Screen Curton off and 
on.  Siri can acctivate VoiceOver or diacctivate Voice  Over only. 

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-3 במאי 2020, בשעה 5:51, ‏‏Robin ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
>  Hey Mr.Richard,
> 
> Does  the  VoiceControl from Apple's iOS13 Extend to All of Apple's iOS 
> Devices, which are capable of running  Apple's iOS13 From Apple's iPhone6S & 
> iPhone6S+ & iPhoneSE to the 11 Series of Apple's iPhone? 
> 
> Blessin'sAgain
> At 06:52 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote:
>> Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice 
>> Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri.
>> It was introduced in iOS 13.
>> '
>> http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
>> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>> 
>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
>> www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hello, 
>>> Do you mean Siri when you said voice control?
>>> If yes, in french it doesn't work.
>>> If not, give me more explanation please.
>>> 
>>> Lyne
>>> 
 Le 2 mai 2020 Ã  18:04, Richard Turner  a 
 écrit :
 
  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" 
 and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. 
 If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on.
 
 
 Richard
 
 Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
 it just stops you from enjoying the good."
 
 Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
 www.turner42.com 
 
 
> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hello, 
> Can you give more informations how to do it?
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 2 mai 2020 Ã  07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  a écrit :
>> 
>>  
>> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once 
>> voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, 
>> you can give  a command to turn screen curtain on or off. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.
>>>  
>>> Dave.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Adam Morris 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
>>> To: viPhone 
>>> Subject: Turning screen curtain off?
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their 
>>> screen curtain on.
>>> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
>>> TIA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Robin]

Hey Mr.Richard,

Does  the  VoiceControl from Apple's iOS13 Extend 
to All of Apple's iOS Devices, which are capable 
of running  Apple's iOS13 From Apple's iPhone6S & 
iPhone6S+ & iPhoneSE to the 11 Series of Apple's iPhone?


Blessin'sAgain
At 06:52 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote:
Here is a link to a document I put together to 
try and show all the Voice Control commands. 
Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri.

It was introduced in iOS 13.
'
http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx 




Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the 
bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."


Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, 
"l.d.ethie...@gmail.com"  wrote:


 Hello,
Do you mean Siri when you said voice control?
If yes, in french it doesn't work.
If not, give me more explanation please.

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 Ã  18:04, Richard Turner 
 a écrit :


 If you have Voice Control turned on, Say 
"voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen 
curtain will toggle between on and off.

If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on.


Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop 
the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."


Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, 
"l.d.ethie...@gmail.com"  wrote:


 Hello,
Can you give more informations how to do it?

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 Ã  07:38, 'Harry Bell' via 
VIPhone  a écrit :



Using the voice control feature is perhaps 
the simplest solution. Once voice control is 
on and the necessary files have had time to 
download, you can give  a command to turn screen curtain on or off.

Harry


On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:


Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has 
trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on.

Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.



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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Robin]

Interesting Thread:
I'll StayTuned

To Answer YourQuestion, I  (Think)  ThatPerson 
meant VoiceControl, which was Released in Apple's 
iOS13, But am unsure if the VoiceControl  is 
"available" to All the iOSDevices that is Capable of running Apple's iOS13.

&
I'm interested to "know" if Apple's Siri  can 
Activate or Toggle  VoiceOver's ScreenCurtain ON 
& OFF, Like Samsung's Bixby can Do with 
VoiceAssistant's DarkScreen on Galaxy 
MobilePhones, which operates on Samsung's 1UI & Google'sAndroid


Blessin's to All on ThisThread

At 06:36 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote:

Hello,
Do you mean Siri when you said voice control?
If yes, in french it doesn't work.
If not, give me more explanation please.

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 Ã  18:04, Richard Turner 
 a écrit :


 If you have Voice Control turned on, Say 
"voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen 
curtain will toggle between on and off.

If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on.


Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop 
the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."


Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, 
"l.d.ethie...@gmail.com"  wrote:


 Hello,
Can you give more informations how to do it?

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 Ã  07:38, 'Harry Bell' via 
VIPhone  a écrit :



Using the voice control feature is perhaps 
the simplest solution. Once voice control is 
on and the necessary files have had time to 
download, you can give  a command to turn screen curtain on or off.

Harry


On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:


Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has 
trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on.

Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.



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Re: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Sieghard,

If you press Volume Up, then Volume Down, and only hold the Power button for a 
couple of seconds, a simple screen with a Power Off button opens. I use this 
method to shut down all the time, and I think the result is exactly like the 
method you describe except the Power Off screen has fewer controls on it. If 
you hold the Power button for 10 seconds or so, a reset happens.

Best,
Anna


> On May 2, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If all you want to do is to turn your phone off, just press the power button 
> and hold it until the "Power off" button appears, Voiceover will announce it, 
> then just double tap and that's it.
> First pressing Volume Up, then Volume down and then pressing and holding the 
> power button is forcing a hard reset, really only necessary if your phone has 
> locked up or is not eresponding in any other way.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.
> 
> To power your phone off, press volume up or down button along with the side 
> button for a couple of seconds. Then you will want to double tap on power off.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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>> On May 2, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> This happened to me again today. I tried powering my phone off.
>> 
>> I thought to power off I was to press Volume Up and Volume, then hold 
>> in Power key. I went wrong somewhere.
>> 
>> To be more specific, should I hold Volume Up and Volume Down a few 
>> seconds, and then, how long should I hold Power Button to turn off? 
>> Then, when ready to turn back on, how long should I turn on the Power 
>> Button. I think I asked this before. I will make note of any 
>> instructions for the future.
>> 
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[l . d . ethier23]

Great! I'll take a look!

Lyne

> Le 2 mai 2020 à 21:52, Richard Turner  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice 
> Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri.
> It was introduced in iOS 13.
> '
> http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx
> 
> 
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
> just stops you from enjoying the good."
> 
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Hello,
>> Do you mean Siri when you said voice control?
>> If yes, in french it doesn't work.
>> If not, give me more explanation please.
>> 
>> Lyne
>> 
>>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner  a écrit 
>>> :
>>> 
>>>  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and 
>>> the screen curtain will toggle between on and off.
>>> If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
>>> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>>> 
>>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" 
  wrote:
 
  Hello,
 Can you give more informations how to do it?
 
 Lyne
 
> Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once 
> voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, 
> you can give  a command to turn screen curtain on or off. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.
>>  
>> Dave.
>>  
>>  
>> From: Adam Morris
>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
>> To: viPhone
>> Subject: Turning screen curtain off?
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their 
>> screen curtain on.
>> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
>> TIA.
>> 
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Richard Turner]

Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice 
Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri.
It was introduced in iOS 13.
'
http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com"  
wrote:

 Hello,
Do you mean Siri when you said voice control?
If yes, in french it doesn't work.
If not, give me more explanation please.

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner  a écrit :

 If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the 
screen curtain will toggle between on and off.
If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com"  
wrote:

 Hello,
Can you give more informations how to do it?

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  a 
écrit :


Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give  
a command to turn screen curtain on or off.
Harry

On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:


Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
curtain on.
Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.



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Hi I just ordered the Apple TV fourth generation and other than the usual apps 
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[l . d . ethier23]

Hello,
Do you mean Siri when you said voice control?
If yes, in french it doesn't work.
If not, give me more explanation please.

Lyne

> Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner  a écrit :
> 
>  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the 
> screen curtain will toggle between on and off.
> If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on.
> 
> 
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
> just stops you from enjoying the good."
> 
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Hello,
>> Can you give more informations how to do it?
>> 
>> Lyne
>> 
>>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
>>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once 
>>> voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you 
>>> can give  a command to turn screen curtain on or off. 
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:
 
 
 Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.
  
 Dave.
  
  
 From: Adam Morris
 Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
 To: viPhone
 Subject: Turning screen curtain off?
  
 Hi all,
 Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their 
 screen curtain on.
 Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
 TIA.
 
 
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RE: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If all you want to do is to turn your phone off, just press the power button 
and hold it until the "Power off" button appears, Voiceover will announce it, 
then just double tap and that's it.
First pressing Volume Up, then Volume down and then pressing and holding the 
power button is forcing a hard reset, really only necessary if your phone has 
locked up or is not eresponding in any other way.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

To power your phone off, press volume up or down button along with the side 
button for a couple of seconds. Then you will want to double tap on power off.

Jenn

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> On May 2, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> This happened to me again today. I tried powering my phone off.
> 
> I thought to power off I was to press Volume Up and Volume, then hold 
> in Power key. I went wrong somewhere.
> 
> To be more specific, should I hold Volume Up and Volume Down a few 
> seconds, and then, how long should I hold Power Button to turn off? 
> Then, when ready to turn back on, how long should I turn on the Power 
> Button. I think I asked this before. I will make note of any 
> instructions for the future.
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Re: Siri and location

[deidre muccio]

I found it. It was in Accessibility under keyboards and under soft software 
keyboards I had to turn off something that has to do with lowercase letters. 
But thank you so much Richard for trying to find that for me. some days ago the 
first thing I foundwas the setting area that you mentioned in this most recent 
post of yours. And that didn't seem to be the culprit.
All is well now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  I may have found your issue.
> Check VoiceOver Verbosity.
> Say cap, and delete text have separate settings in there both of which can 
> use change pitch.
> HTH,
> 
> 
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> just stops you from enjoying the good."
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> 
>>> On May 2, 2020, at 4:53 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:
>>> 
>> Use pitch change is off.  I'm gonna have to keep searching for the setting 
>> to get rid of that annoying high pitch voice! I guessthat I don't like 
>> high-pitched voices Or tones, Either in Reel people or synthesize speech.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 2, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does it matter why it works that way now, it does, we just have to get 
>>> used to it.
>>> 
>>> As for the pitch issue, have you gone to VoiceOver settings, Speech and 
>>> turned off use pitch change?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
>>> Oregon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> deidre muccio
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:35 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri and location
>>> 
>>> Yes, I realize that's why it's asking me. But I'm wondering why they 
>>> introduced that and it didn't used to work that way years ago. Yeah I'll 
>>> try and spell it out more, but my experience lately is that even that 
>>> doesn't work. But I'll try again. Try try again until you lose all patients 
>>> altogether. Most people who see me work on my phone say they would never 
>>> have the patience to do to get to the bottom of things like I do. I am sure 
>>> that  all of us differ in the things we are willing to tolerate and how 
>>> quickly we lose patience.
>>> Another issue that has not yet been resolved is how to get rid of the pitch 
>>> when I first touch  a character. Itpronounces them where it sounds like 
>>> it's a capital letter but when I activate that letter with the double tap, 
>>> I'm not using slide to type, it then sounds normal and doesn't pronounce it 
>>> with that high-pitched capitalization type sound. Trying to figure out how 
>>> to set the toneall globally. All the keyboard sounds. i use the voice over 
>>> feedback religiously,  andit always is a bit disconcerting and throws me 
>>> off when that high pitch sound reads that letter is if it's a capital. Got 
>>> to get rid of that.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 2, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 It offers the option of using the Email because you can text people using 
 email.
 Maybe say text so to their iPhone?
 
 
 
 Richard
 "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
 Oregon.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 deidre muccio
 Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:33 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Siri and location
 
 Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in 
 western Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just 
 kidding.
 Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and 
 stupider. For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted 
 that their iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that 
 person it asks me whether I want to text message them using the phone 
 number or an email. Those were questions I was never asked in previous 
 updates and I'm talking quite some time ago at this point. Why would I 
 want to email them rather than use a phone number? Is there some good 
 reason for that? It makes me wanna remove all the emails from some of my 
 most frequently texted contacts.
 
 And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When 
 I asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am 
 located. This is with location tracking on. This is even with my current 
 city chosen in the Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was 
 something odd switched off there and didn't notice anything that might 
 help with this. Does anyone have any clue what this might be about? Why 
 Siri cannot locate where I am located? Nearby explorer sure can.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Marie]

This thread began because her friend has mobility issues and can not perform 
the three finger triple tap!




Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn

Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off?

Just triple-tap with three fingers for on or off - a toggle.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off?

Hello,
Can you give more informations how to do it?


Lyne


Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  a 
écrit :





Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can 
give  a command to turn screen curtain on or off.

Harry


On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:




Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris 
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their 
screen curtain on.

Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.



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Re: Siri and location

[Richard Turner]

I may have found your issue.
Check VoiceOver Verbosity.
Say cap, and delete text have separate settings in there both of which can use 
change pitch.
HTH,


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just stops you from enjoying the good."

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On May 2, 2020, at 4:53 PM, deidre muccio  wrote:

Use pitch change is off.  I'm gonna have to keep searching for the setting to 
get rid of that annoying high pitch voice! I guessthat I don't like 
high-pitched voices Or tones, Either in Reel people or synthesize speech.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Does it matter why it works that way now, it does, we just have to get used to 
it.

As for the pitch issue, have you gone to VoiceOver settings, Speech and turned 
off use pitch change?



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and location

Yes, I realize that's why it's asking me. But I'm wondering why they introduced 
that and it didn't used to work that way years ago. Yeah I'll try and spell it 
out more, but my experience lately is that even that doesn't work. But I'll try 
again. Try try again until you lose all patients altogether. Most people who 
see me work on my phone say they would never have the patience to do to get to 
the bottom of things like I do. I am sure that  all of us differ in the things 
we are willing to tolerate and how quickly we lose patience.
Another issue that has not yet been resolved is how to get rid of the pitch 
when I first touch  a character. Itpronounces them where it sounds like it's a 
capital letter but when I activate that letter with the double tap, I'm not 
using slide to type, it then sounds normal and doesn't pronounce it with that 
high-pitched capitalization type sound. Trying to figure out how to set the 
toneall globally. All the keyboard sounds. i use the voice over feedback 
religiously,  andit always is a bit disconcerting and throws me off when that 
high pitch sound reads that letter is if it's a capital. Got to get rid of that.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

It offers the option of using the Email because you can text people using 
email.
Maybe say text so to their iPhone?



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri and location

Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and stupider. 
For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted that their 
iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person it asks me 
whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an email. Those 
were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm talking quite some 
time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them rather than use a phone 
number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes me wanna remove all the 
emails from some of my most frequently texted contacts.

And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. This 
is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen in the 
Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd switched off 
there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does anyone have 
any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I am located? 
Nearby explorer sure can.

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RE: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

[Carolyn]

When did that happen, Gera? 

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Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

And my 3GS was rained on. I left the bedroom windows open, left the phone to 
charge through the night as always, and at around 3:AM a thunderstorm came on! 
Next thing I knew when my Mom woke me up at 6AM, no phone! I’ll never forget 
the smell coming from inside the phone! I’ll never forgive myself for that 
phone’s death!

 


  Enviado desde Correo 
  para Windows 10

 

De: Marie  
Enviado: sábado, 2 de mayo de 2020 08:49 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Asunto: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

 

Just to let you know from a long time IPhone user, they were not always 

nearly as tough as now. My iPhone 5 took a swim in the toilet and it died a 

sudden death! LOL!

 

 

 

Marie

-Original Message- 

From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 11:37 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

 

Thanks for all your encouragement.  My phone is working fine.  I have

made several calls since the incident happened, and have also used a

bluetooth speaker and headset.  Glad to know my iPhone is tougher then

I first thought.

 

On 5/1/20, Mike B.  wrote:

> That is so totally cool!

> 

> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 

> pee

> 

> it cleans the toilet.

> 

> - Original Message -

> From: Sieghard Weitzel

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:44 PM

> Subject: RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience

> 

> 

> It really isn't a big deal especially with anything like the iPhone 8 

> which

> 

> Josh has and newer. The iPhone 8 has a rating of IP67 which means you can

> actually submerse it under 3 feet of water for 30 minutes and it should 

> not

> 

> hurt the phone. Of course while Apple tests this, they wouldn't recommend

> you routinely do this, but just in case if it did fall into a full bath 

> tub

> 

> and you took it out nothing bad would happen. The latest iPhones are

> actually IP68 which means they can stand submersion under 2 meters (a bit

> over 6 and a half feet) for I think 30 minutes or 1 hour.

> Some of you may remember the story of my 6S Plus which I got after it was

> released in September 2016. Then at Christmas I visited my family in

> northern British Columbia, went for a walk when it was -30 degrees out and

> promptly lost my phone. Despite hours of search along the approx. three

> quarter long driveway (my family has a working ranch in a very remote 

> area)

> 

> nobody found the phone. About 4 month later in mid April when the snow was

> gone my brother had another look and easily found it only feet away from

> where they all looked before, it was lying in the mud, by then it had 

> gotten

> 

> warmer, during the winter it got warmer, it got cold again, it snowed and 

> it

> 

> rained and all in all you'd think the phone would be dead. I told my 

> brother

> 

> to stick it in a bag of rice and to mail it to me, by the time he went to

> town and I received about a week passed and as soon as I got it I simply

> plugged it in. At first nothing at all happened and I got busy at my 

> store,

> 

> then a couple of hours later I came back in the office and not expecting

> anything I pushed the side button, Voiceover came on loud and clear asking

> for my PIN, as soon as I put it in the phone went crazy with dozens of

> notifications, messages and emails coming in. Since by then I had gotten a

> new phone this meant the SIM card was deactivated, yet after all this time

> in the harsh elements the phone connected to my store's WiFi and at first 

> I

> 

> thought all was working, in fact, I could make Facetime calls and all 

> seemed

> 

> normal. This lasted until I told one of my sighted employees with great

> astonishment that my phone had been found and was still working, but then 

> he

> 

> said that the screen was black. At first I thought screen curtain was on,

> but it was not and nothing we did made any difference. In other words, the

> phone was working normally except that the screen was obviously not 

> working

> 

> at all and later when I took it to an Apple store and they ran diagnostics

> they also told me the camera seemed to be damaged as well. The long story

> ended with me being able to get a replacement iPhone 6S Plus from Apple 

> for

> 

> a relatively small fee under the Apple Care Plus coverage I had purchased

> when I bought the phone, 

RE: Turning screen curtain off?

[Carolyn]

Just triple-tap with three fingers for on or off - a toggle. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off?

Hello,
Can you give more informations how to do it?


Lyne


Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 a écrit :




Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once 
voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can 
give  a command to turn screen curtain on or off. 
Harry


On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:



 
Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: Adam Morris   
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone   
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?
 
Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing 
has their screen curtain on.
Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger 
triple tap?
TIA.



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Re: Siri and location

[deidre muccio]

Use pitch change is off.  I'm gonna have to keep searching for the setting to 
get rid of that annoying high pitch voice! I guessthat I don't like 
high-pitched voices Or tones, Either in Reel people or synthesize speech.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Does it matter why it works that way now, it does, we just have to get used 
> to it.
> 
> As for the pitch issue, have you gone to VoiceOver settings, Speech and 
> turned off use pitch change?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri and location
> 
> Yes, I realize that's why it's asking me. But I'm wondering why they 
> introduced that and it didn't used to work that way years ago. Yeah I'll try 
> and spell it out more, but my experience lately is that even that doesn't 
> work. But I'll try again. Try try again until you lose all patients 
> altogether. Most people who see me work on my phone say they would never have 
> the patience to do to get to the bottom of things like I do. I am sure that  
> all of us differ in the things we are willing to tolerate and how quickly we 
> lose patience.
> Another issue that has not yet been resolved is how to get rid of the pitch 
> when I first touch  a character. Itpronounces them where it sounds like it's 
> a capital letter but when I activate that letter with the double tap, I'm not 
> using slide to type, it then sounds normal and doesn't pronounce it with that 
> high-pitched capitalization type sound. Trying to figure out how to set the 
> toneall globally. All the keyboard sounds. i use the voice over feedback 
> religiously,  andit always is a bit disconcerting and throws me off when that 
> high pitch sound reads that letter is if it's a capital. Got to get rid of 
> that.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It offers the option of using the Email because you can text people using 
>> email.
>> Maybe say text so to their iPhone?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> deidre muccio
>> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Siri and location
>> 
>> Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in 
>> western Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just 
>> kidding.
>> Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and 
>> stupider. For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted 
>> that their iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person 
>> it asks me whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an 
>> email. Those were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm 
>> talking quite some time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them 
>> rather than use a phone number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes 
>> me wanna remove all the emails from some of my most frequently texted 
>> contacts.
>> 
>> And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
>> asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. 
>> This is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen 
>> in the Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd 
>> switched off there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. 
>> Does anyone have any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate 
>> where I am located? Nearby explorer sure can.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Richard Turner]

If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the 
screen curtain will toggle between on and off.
If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

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On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com"  
wrote:

 Hello,
Can you give more informations how to do it?

Lyne

Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  a 
écrit :


Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give  
a command to turn screen curtain on or off.
Harry

On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:


Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
curtain on.
Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.



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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[l . d . ethier23]

Hello,
Can you give more informations how to do it?

Lyne

> Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  a 
> écrit :
> 
> 
> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
> control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give 
>  a command to turn screen curtain on or off. 
> Harry
> 
>>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.
>>  
>> Dave.
>>  
>>  
>> From: Adam Morris
>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
>> To: viPhone
>> Subject: Turning screen curtain off?
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their 
>> screen curtain on.
>> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
>> TIA.
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RE: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

[Gerardo Corripio]

And my 3GS was rained on. I left the bedroom windows open, left the phone to charge through the night as always, and at around 3:AM a thunderstorm came on! Next thing I knew when my Mom woke me up at 6AM, no phone! I’ll never forget the smell coming from inside the phone! I’ll never forgive myself for that phone’s death!   Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: MarieEnviado: sábado, 2 de mayo de 2020 08:49 a. m.Para: viphone@googlegroups.comAsunto: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience Just to let you know from a long time IPhone user, they were not always nearly as tough as now. My iPhone 5 took a swim in the toilet and it died a sudden death! LOL!   Marie-Original Message- From: Joshua HendricksonSent: Friday, May 1, 2020 11:37 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience Thanks for all your encouragement.  My phone is working fine.  I havemade several calls since the incident happened, and have also used abluetooth speaker and headset.  Glad to know my iPhone is tougher thenI first thought. On 5/1/20, Mike B.  wrote:> That is so totally cool!> > Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I > pee> > it cleans the toilet.> > - Original Message -> From: Sieghard Weitzel> To: viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:44 PM> Subject: RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience> > > It really isn't a big deal especially with anything like the iPhone 8 > which> > Josh has and newer. The iPhone 8 has a rating of IP67 which means you can> actually submerse it under 3 feet of water for 30 minutes and it should > not> > hurt the phone. Of course while Apple tests this, they wouldn't recommend> you routinely do this, but just in case if it did fall into a full bath > tub> > and you took it out nothing bad would happen. The latest iPhones are> actually IP68 which means they can stand submersion under 2 meters (a bit> over 6 and a half feet) for I think 30 minutes or 1 hour.> Some of you may remember the story of my 6S Plus which I got after it was> released in September 2016. Then at Christmas I visited my family in> northern British Columbia, went for a walk when it was -30 degrees out and> promptly lost my phone. Despite hours of search along the approx. three> quarter long driveway (my family has a working ranch in a very remote > area)> > nobody found the phone. About 4 month later in mid April when the snow was> gone my brother had another look and easily found it only feet away from> where they all looked before, it was lying in the mud, by then it had > gotten> > warmer, during the winter it got warmer, it got cold again, it snowed and > it> > rained and all in all you'd think the phone would be dead. I told my > brother> > to stick it in a bag of rice and to mail it to me, by the time he went to> town and I received about a week passed and as soon as I got it I simply> plugged it in. At first nothing at all happened and I got busy at my > store,> > then a couple of hours later I came back in the office and not expecting> anything I pushed the side button, Voiceover came on loud and clear asking> for my PIN, as soon as I put it in the phone went crazy with dozens of> notifications, messages and emails coming in. Since by then I had gotten a> new phone this meant the SIM card was deactivated, yet after all this time> in the harsh elements the phone connected to my store's WiFi and at first > I> > thought all was working, in fact, I could make Facetime calls and all > seemed> > normal. This lasted until I told one of my sighted employees with great> astonishment that my phone had been found and was still working, but then > he> > said that the screen was black. At first I thought screen curtain was on,> but it was not and nothing we did made any difference. In other words, the> phone was working normally except that the screen was obviously not > working> > at all and later when I took it to an Apple store and they ran diagnostics> they also told me the camera seemed to be damaged as well. The long story> ended with me being able to get a replacement iPhone 6S Plus from Apple > for> > a relatively small fee under the Apple Care Plus coverage I had purchased> when I bought the phone, but still I thought it was pretty cool it > survived> > this long period lying out in the open in harsh weather even though it> didn't survive 100%, but all the touch gestures were working, all the > radios> > from WiFi to Bluetooth and so on were working, just the display apparently> was damaged as was the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if all would have> been fine had this been an iPhone 8 or even an XR, XS, 11 or 11 Pro.> > Best regards,> Sieghard> > Original Message-> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of > Maria> > Reyes> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:16 PM> To: 

Re: can you put speed dial contacts on an iPhone

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

You might find using SIRI a quicker way to do this. You could add nick names or 
relationship info in the contact entries for those you want to quickly call. 
Then, just ask SIRI to "call Steve", "call Mom",  or whomever. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
 

> On May 2, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 

I believe the closest thing to speed dial is favorites. You can organize them 
the way you want, but you cannot actually make it so when you press 2 it calls 
Steve.



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> Hi can you put speed dial contact on an iPhone.  For instance number two is 
> Steve number five is Paul etc.  
> If this is possible how would you set this up.
> Jen
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Re: changing phones

[Janet Bell]

thanks very much Jen  Janet

From: Jennie Facer 
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Hi Janet, 

I may be mistaken, but I believe it would be your provider that would have to 
unlock the old phone. She may also have to get a new sim card.

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  I hope some kind soul can help me with this problem.  I had an iPhone 7 and I 
decided to upgrade it.  so I transferred all my data to the new phone and then 
put my cim in it and it works fine.  I have given the old phone to a friend who 
transfered her data to it which went fine but when she put her sim in it it 
told her that she needed a number to unlock the phone.  my problem is I don’t 
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Re: Syncing photos from iPhone to PC...

[Holly]

Hi 
Pramit:

Well, I started with your first instruction.  For one thing, when I go into 
‘photos’ in the iCloud app, I don’t see any mention of ‘my photo library’.  I 
do see ‘my photo stream’ and that is turned on.

Also, when I go to sign out, it says to sign out to turn off ‘find my phone’.  
Is this the right way to sign out?

When I open the iCloud app on my PC, I can’t find an option to sign out.  How 
do I sign out of the app on my PC?

Right after I got my desktop back from the computer store, I had to sign in to 
iCloud right away.

Also, when I open the iCloud app on the PC, I can see all the buttons for mail, 
calendar, photos, etc., but when I enter on the photo's button, nothing 
happens.  I am using JAWS 2020 and Windows 10.

What do you think?

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Re: Syncing photos from iPhone to PC...

[Holly]

Mike:

Well, your instructions worked, but it is kind of a work around.  It would be 
better if I could get my photos to be automatically sent to my PC from my phone 
without having to plug it in to the computer and go through all those steps.

I have iCloud photos folder on my PC, and it used to be that any picture I took 
would be sent to that folder in just seconds without plugging in the phone to 
the computer.
Pramit gave me some steps to try, so will see if that will work.  If not, I 
will use your directions.

Thanks for your help.

You are OK for a Rams fan.  Hahahaha.

Holly, up here in Seahawks country.

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Re: can you put speed dial contacts on an iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

I believe the closest thing to speed dial is favorites. You can organize them 
the way you want, but you cannot actually make it so when you press 2 it calls 
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> If this is possible how would you set this up.
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Re: Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

[Jennie Facer]

To power your phone off, press volume up or down button along with the side 
button for a couple of seconds. Then you will want to double tap on power off.

Jenn

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> This happened to me again today. I tried powering my phone
> off. 
> 
> I thought to power off I was to press Volume Up and Volume,
> then hold in Power key. I went wrong somewhere.
> 
> To be more specific, should I hold Volume Up and Volume Down
> a few seconds, and then, how long should I hold Power Button
> to turn off? Then, when ready to turn back on, how long
> should I turn on the Power Button. I think I asked this
> before. I will make note of any instructions for the future.
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Re: changing phones

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Janet,

I may be mistaken, but I believe it would be your provider that would have to 
unlock the old phone. She may also have to get a new sim card.

Jenn

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> I hope some kind soul can help me with this problem.  I had an iPhone 7 and I 
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> then put my cim in it and it works fine.  I have given the old phone to a 
> friend who transfered her data to it which went fine but when she put her sim 
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changing phones

[Janet Bell]

I hope some kind soul can help me with this problem.  I had an iPhone 7 and I 
decided to upgrade it.  so I transferred all my data to the new phone and then 
put my cim in it and it works fine.  I have given the old phone to a friend who 
transfered her data to it which went fine but when she put her sim in it it 
told her that she needed a number to unlock the phone.  my problem is I don’t 
know who has to get the number to unlock her phone me or her providers.  hope 
that makes sense to someone.  Janet

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RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Carolyn]

Of course, that makes sense. Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

You cannot start Voiceover with SIRI during setup because at that point SIRI is 
not setup and typically your phone does not yet have network or WiFi 
connectivity.
This is exactly why Apple has made it so easy to start Voiceover with a triple 
press of the home button.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

If VoiceOver does not come up, can't you ask Siri to launch it. 

Occasionally, my husband'swill on his tablet, and all he does is ask Siri to 
turn VoiceOver off, and she does. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Portia Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

Wow, glad your setup went smoothly. Or at least pretty much smoothly, from your 
setup steps.
However, a warning for any newcommers to the iPhone SE2020.
If you start setup, turn on Voicer, it may not speak at all and you may have to 
get sighted help. Someone from the audiogames.net forum said thy had this 
issue, so just thought I'd bring it up, in case they werent on here.

Portia.

On 4/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a 
> new iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved 
> as I only do this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE
> 2020 directly from the Apple Store app with no SIM card included since 
> I have a prepaid Verizon plan and could not specify my carrier successfully 
> when ordering.
> The below numbered list will be very detailed since I'd rather have 
> too much information than not enough. Any settings provided came from 
> my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4.1.
>
>
>
>1.Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running
> its latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the 
> lightning cable, and did an encrypted backup.
>
>2.Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple
> ID - iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and 
> executing Backup now.
>
>3.I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any
> books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored 
> iPhone, I made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I 
> wanted to re-download to my new iPhone and the location of any current 
> reading position in those books.
>
>4.I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the
> new phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen 
> appeared a few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and 
> I pressed the home button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover.
> Although I was hearing clicks as I swiped, Voiceover did not start 
> talking until a number of seconds later. In fact, I pressed the home 
> button 3 times again because I wasn't sure I had turned Voiceover on.
> This turned Voiceover off and I had to press the home button 3 times 
> again to turn it back on and I heard Voiceover say hello and when I 
> swiped once, Voiceover said press home to open.
>
>5.I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list
> of
> language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.
>
>6.The screen which opened said Select your country or region
> heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the 
> first in the list.
>
>7.The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your
> current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The 
> older iPhone must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on.
> There was a button at the end to Set up manually.
>
>8.A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using
> my apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position 
> some pattern in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually 
> button instead.
>
>9.I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code
> displayed on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old 
> iPhone. My new iPhone then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old 
> iPhone. I had to double tap each number on the on screen number pad on 
> my new iPhone since touch typing was not turned on.
>
> 10.I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.
>
> 11.Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and
> lift my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said 
> Adjust 

RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

[Carolyn]

Exactly, James. I'd worry about damage to my card with the wireless  charger. I 
might get one of those and just not make use of the pocket. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

I hadn't thought about cards.  I guess you are concerned that the magnetic 
field from the wireless charger would damage the magnetic strip on the card?

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

I wish I did, James. One of the ladies in my card playing group got one, and 
several others got one. They have them at Wal-Mart, is all I know. They aare 
really soft, and I liked it. I could still maybe get one, just not put any 
cards in it unless I do it temporarily. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

Hey Carolyn,  Do you have a link or model number for the case with a lanyard?

Thanks,

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

And, Wal-Mart has them with lanyards. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fred Olver
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

If you have a case for the IPhone 8, it will fit the new SE.
 
Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020


Hi all,

 

Does anyone know about any durable case for an iPhone SE 2nd generation.

 

It must have a hole in the case to atatch a lanyard.

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

 



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Phone not responding to two-finger double-tap with incoming call.

[Carolyn]

This happened to me again today. I tried powering my phone
off. 

I thought to power off I was to press Volume Up and Volume,
then hold in Power key. I went wrong somewhere. 

To be more specific, should I hold Volume Up and Volume Down
a few seconds, and then, how long should I hold Power Button
to turn off? Then, when ready to turn back on, how long
should I turn on the Power Button. I think I asked this
before. I will make note of any instructions for the future.


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Smart Spot Light Help

[Info.Blindtreasures]

Hi List, I am in the process of searching out some smart spot lights. I am
hoping that someone out there has used some of these with their smart phone
and can recommend a brand and model. One of the ones I've been researching
is the HALO Home spot lights. Has anyone used these and can speak on the
accessibility of the app? Any suggestions would be welcome.

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RE: ISO feedback on an accessible iPhone sanitizer device (phone soap)

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

GRRR. I swear. I don’t know why my emails always get cut off.

Anyway, 

To complete the below, it looks like they’re all more or less the same. Put
the phone in the device, and let the UV light do its thing for 5 or so
minutes.

It seems that they’re all light indicator driven. That’s fine and all. The
wife’s sighted and I can always just set a 5 minute timer on the phone
before placing it in the device, but in case there’s something out there
that either has some sort of sound or vibration mechanism to let you know
that the process is done, it would be good to know as well. As a bonus, if
there’s a phone soap thingy that can also do tablets (iPads)…

It looks like PhoneSoap.com   is a pretty
popular site for these things.

Thanks,

 

Hello list,

So, was thinking of getting a phone sanitizer (phone soap) for me and the
wife. 

It looks like they’re all more or less the same as far as concept. Put the
phone in 

 

 

Cristóbal

 

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can you put speed dial contacts on an iPhone

[Jen .]

Hi can you put speed dial contact on an iPhone.  For instance number two is 
Steve number five is Paul etc.  
If this is possible how would you set this up.
Jen

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ISO feedback on an accessible iPhone sanitizer device (phone soap)

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Hello list,

So, was thinking of getting a phone sanitizer (phone soap) for me and the
wife. 

It looks like they’re all more or less the same as far as concept. Put the
phone in Cristóbal

 

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RE: Siri and location

[Richard Turner]

Does it matter why it works that way now, it does, we just have to get used to 
it.

As for the pitch issue, have you gone to VoiceOver settings, Speech and turned 
off use pitch change?



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and location

Yes, I realize that's why it's asking me. But I'm wondering why they introduced 
that and it didn't used to work that way years ago. Yeah I'll try and spell it 
out more, but my experience lately is that even that doesn't work. But I'll try 
again. Try try again until you lose all patients altogether. Most people who 
see me work on my phone say they would never have the patience to do to get to 
the bottom of things like I do. I am sure that  all of us differ in the things 
we are willing to tolerate and how quickly we lose patience.
Another issue that has not yet been resolved is how to get rid of the pitch 
when I first touch  a character. Itpronounces them where it sounds like it's a 
capital letter but when I activate that letter with the double tap, I'm not 
using slide to type, it then sounds normal and doesn't pronounce it with that 
high-pitched capitalization type sound. Trying to figure out how to set the 
toneall globally. All the keyboard sounds. i use the voice over feedback 
religiously,  andit always is a bit disconcerting and throws me off when that 
high pitch sound reads that letter is if it's a capital. Got to get rid of that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It offers the option of using the Email because you can text people using 
> email.
> Maybe say text so to their iPhone?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri and location
> 
> Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
> Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
> Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and 
> stupider. For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted 
> that their iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person 
> it asks me whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an 
> email. Those were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm 
> talking quite some time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them 
> rather than use a phone number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes 
> me wanna remove all the emails from some of my most frequently texted 
> contacts.
> 
> And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
> asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. 
> This is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen 
> in the Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd 
> switched off there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does 
> anyone have any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I 
> am located? Nearby explorer sure can.
> 
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Re: Siri and location

[deidre muccio]

Yes, I realize that's why it's asking me. But I'm wondering why they introduced 
that and it didn't used to work that way years ago. Yeah I'll try and spell it 
out more, but my experience lately is that even that doesn't work. But I'll try 
again. Try try again until you lose all patients altogether. Most people who 
see me work on my phone say they would never have the patience to do to get to 
the bottom of things like I do. I am sure that  all of us differ in the things 
we are willing to tolerate and how quickly we lose patience.
Another issue that has not yet been resolved is how to get rid of the pitch 
when I first touch  a character. Itpronounces them where it sounds like it's a 
capital letter but when I activate that letter with the double tap, I'm not 
using slide to type, it then sounds normal and doesn't pronounce it with that 
high-pitched capitalization type sound. Trying to figure out how to set the 
toneall globally. All the keyboard sounds. i use the voice over feedback 
religiously,  andit always is a bit disconcerting and throws me off when that 
high pitch sound reads that letter is if it's a capital. Got to get rid of that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It offers the option of using the Email because you can text people using 
> email.
> Maybe say text so to their iPhone?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri and location
> 
> Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
> Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
> Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and 
> stupider. For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted 
> that their iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person 
> it asks me whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an 
> email. Those were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm 
> talking quite some time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them 
> rather than use a phone number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes 
> me wanna remove all the emails from some of my most frequently texted 
> contacts.
> 
> And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
> asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. 
> This is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen 
> in the Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd 
> switched off there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does 
> anyone have any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I 
> am located? Nearby explorer sure can.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Siri and location

[deidre muccio]

Exactly. It never used to asked me where I wanted to texts or which address to 
use or email or iPhone.   I'm talking about years past. The layering seems to 
get a little more cumbersome as time goes on for some apps such as how we've 
already discussed what's going on in the mail app. These sorts of things drive 
me crazy. I don't like to have to swipe anymore than necessary. Or tap or any 
of that. In the very first computer class I ever took decades ago the teacher 
said they were three components of  working on a computer. There's ardware, 
software, and the jellywhere. He claims that most mistakes come from that third 
category and I'm sure all of you can guess what or who is the jelly were.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If you have people you frequently text it usually also helps if you add them 
> to your Favourites with their mobile number, SIRI usually then does not ask. 
> However, I agree that sometimes it is stupid, I have a lot of business 
> contacts where I have a office number, fax number, mobile number and email 
> and sometimes when I say Call so and so it asks me which number and it 
> actually lists also the fax number and this also happens when I say "Text so 
> and so, I think SIRI should be smart enough to know that I can't text a home 
> or fax number. OK, so theoretically you can I think text to a landline and  
> most phone companies at least here in Canada will try to do speech 
> recognition and convert what you say into text and then a TTS voice will read 
> this to the person you texted, but if a mobile number is present SIRI should 
> assume that you want to text to that number and not to a home, office or fax 
> number.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Siri and location
> 
> It offers the option of using the Email because you can text people using 
> email.
> Maybe say text so to their iPhone?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri and location
> 
> Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
> Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
> Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and 
> stupider. For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted 
> that their iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person 
> it asks me whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an 
> email. Those were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm 
> talking quite some time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them 
> rather than use a phone number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes 
> me wanna remove all the emails from some of my most frequently texted 
> contacts.
> 
> And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
> asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. 
> This is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen 
> in the Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd 
> switched off there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does 
> anyone have any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I 
> am located? Nearby explorer sure can.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Siri and location

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you have people you frequently text it usually also helps if you add them to 
your Favourites with their mobile number, SIRI usually then does not ask. 
However, I agree that sometimes it is stupid, I have a lot of business contacts 
where I have a office number, fax number, mobile number and email and sometimes 
when I say Call so and so it asks me which number and it actually lists also 
the fax number and this also happens when I say "Text so and so, I think SIRI 
should be smart enough to know that I can't text a home or fax number. OK, so 
theoretically you can I think text to a landline and  most phone companies at 
least here in Canada will try to do speech recognition and convert what you say 
into text and then a TTS voice will read this to the person you texted, but if 
a mobile number is present SIRI should assume that you want to text to that 
number and not to a home, office or fax number.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri and location

It offers the option of using the Email because you can text people using email.
Maybe say text so to their iPhone?



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri and location

Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and stupider. 
For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted that their 
iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person it asks me 
whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an email. Those 
were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm talking quite some 
time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them rather than use a phone 
number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes me wanna remove all the 
emails from some of my most frequently texted contacts.

And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. This 
is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen in the 
Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd switched off 
there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does anyone have 
any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I am located? 
Nearby explorer sure can.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You cannot start Voiceover with SIRI during setup because at that point SIRI is 
not setup and typically your phone does not yet have network or WiFi 
connectivity.
This is exactly why Apple has made it so easy to start Voiceover with a triple 
press of the home button.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

If VoiceOver does not come up, can't you ask Siri to launch it. 

Occasionally, my husband'swill on his tablet, and all he does is ask Siri to 
turn VoiceOver off, and she does. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Portia Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

Wow, glad your setup went smoothly. Or at least pretty much smoothly, from your 
setup steps.
However, a warning for any newcommers to the iPhone SE2020.
If you start setup, turn on Voicer, it may not speak at all and you may have to 
get sighted help. Someone from the audiogames.net forum said thy had this 
issue, so just thought I'd bring it up, in case they werent on here.

Portia.

On 4/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a 
> new iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved 
> as I only do this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE
> 2020 directly from the Apple Store app with no SIM card included since 
> I have a prepaid Verizon plan and could not specify my carrier successfully 
> when ordering.
> The below numbered list will be very detailed since I'd rather have 
> too much information than not enough. Any settings provided came from 
> my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4.1.
>
>
>
>1.Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running
> its latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the 
> lightning cable, and did an encrypted backup.
>
>2.Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple
> ID - iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and 
> executing Backup now.
>
>3.I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any
> books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored 
> iPhone, I made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I 
> wanted to re-download to my new iPhone and the location of any current 
> reading position in those books.
>
>4.I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the
> new phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen 
> appeared a few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and 
> I pressed the home button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover.
> Although I was hearing clicks as I swiped, Voiceover did not start 
> talking until a number of seconds later. In fact, I pressed the home 
> button 3 times again because I wasn't sure I had turned Voiceover on.
> This turned Voiceover off and I had to press the home button 3 times 
> again to turn it back on and I heard Voiceover say hello and when I 
> swiped once, Voiceover said press home to open.
>
>5.I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list
> of
> language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.
>
>6.The screen which opened said Select your country or region
> heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the 
> first in the list.
>
>7.The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your
> current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The 
> older iPhone must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on.
> There was a button at the end to Set up manually.
>
>8.A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using
> my apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position 
> some pattern in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually 
> button instead.
>
>9.I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code
> displayed on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old 
> iPhone. My new iPhone then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old 
> iPhone. I had to double tap each number on the on screen number pad on 
> my new iPhone since touch typing was not turned on.
>
> 10.I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.
>
> 11.Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and
> lift my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said 
> Adjust your grip and it said keep going to capture the edges of your 
> grip. I double tapped a Continue button at the bottom of this screen.
>
> 12.I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I
> got
> the Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then 

RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

[bentleyj1952]

I hadn't thought about cards.  I guess you are concerned that the magnetic 
field from the wireless charger would damage the magnetic strip on the card?

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

I wish I did, James. One of the ladies in my card playing group got one, and 
several others got one. They have them at Wal-Mart, is all I know. They aare 
really soft, and I liked it. I could still maybe get one, just not put any 
cards in it unless I do it temporarily. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

Hey Carolyn,  Do you have a link or model number for the case with a lanyard?

Thanks,

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

And, Wal-Mart has them with lanyards. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fred Olver
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

If you have a case for the IPhone 8, it will fit the new SE.
 
Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020


Hi all,

 

Does anyone know about any durable case for an iPhone SE 2nd generation.

 

It must have a hole in the case to atatch a lanyard.

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

 



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RE: iTunes for Windows

[Richard Turner]

Good question.
If you can call them toll free, I'd try it.
I think on the apple Accessibility web page they may give other numbers for 
different countries.
Hopefully, Microsoft does the same.
If you cannot find them, let me know, I can call them easily and ask.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
Roberts
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows

Are these numbers for if calling from the States?  I am in the UK.

Many thanks,

Andrew Andrew 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 02 May 2020 15:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows

I'd try both Microsoft Accessibility help and Apple Accessibility help.
Microsoft: 800-936-5900
Apple: 877-204-3930

HTH,


Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
Roberts
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows

Hi,

Firstly, please accept my apologies if this message is off topic for this list, 
but as it is about an Apple product I thought I might just get away with it.

I am running iTunes version 12.10.6.2 under Windows 10.

For some reason (and this has only happened fairly recently) I can no longer 
access the “for you” section of Apple Music.  When I try I get the message “an 
error has occurred”.  The only option I then have is a “try again” button.  
Pressing that achieves absolutely nothing.  Does anyone know what the problem 
might be please?  I can access every other aspect of the program, my library, 
the store, you name it, I can even browse for Apple Music tracks, I just can’t 
access the “for you” section and yet I can on my iOS devices.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Andrew


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RE: Siri and location

[Richard Turner]

It offers the option of using the Email because you can text people using email.
Maybe say text so to their iPhone?



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri and location

Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and stupider. 
For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted that their 
iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person it asks me 
whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an email. Those 
were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm talking quite some 
time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them rather than use a phone 
number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes me wanna remove all the 
emails from some of my most frequently texted contacts.

And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. This 
is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen in the 
Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd switched off 
there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does anyone have 
any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I am located? 
Nearby explorer sure can.

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RE: Turning screen curtain off?

[Richard Turner]

Reggie,
Have you tried putting the onscreen keyboard into caps lock since you set up 
that gesture?
Now in iOS 13, you need a one finger quadruple tap to activate caps lock.
I’m curious if your gesture overrides that one.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
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Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off?

You can also set up another gesture that is not being used by one of the iPhone 
gestures to do the  three finger triple tap for the screen curtain. I used one 
finger quadruple tap.

 Reggie Alvarado

On May 2, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Mitch,
A two or four finger double tap have nothing to do with the screen curtain.
The original question was to help someone who cannot do the three finger 
gesture, so it comes down to Voice Control, which is there to make it possible 
for someone without use of their hands, or at least not effective use of their 
hands to access everything on an iOS device with or without VoiceOver.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off?

Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work 
just as well. From Mich.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off?

Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work.

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give  
a command to turn screen curtain on or off.
Harry

On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave 
mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
curtain on.
Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.




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Re: Siri and location

[deidre muccio]

Problem solved. There was one little thing having to do with Maps that was in 
the location tracking settings that I needed to switch on to improve improve 
whatever. I couldn't do it under maps outside of the location tracking section 
of settings. Anyway it knows where I am now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I do not have that weather issue on my fairly new 11. 
> 
> But, I do have her ask me all kind of options about a text, if I say, send 
> text message to Mary Smith. Another thing that I have a really hard time 
> making Siri do is a group text, even when I give the command send group text 
> to Mary Smith, Bill Jones, John Dough, and Jane Johnson. She'll say, what do 
> you want to say to Mary Smith? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> deidre muccio
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri and location
> 
> Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
> Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
> Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and 
> stupider. For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted 
> that their iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person 
> it asks me whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an 
> email. Those were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm 
> talking quite some time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them 
> rather than use a phone number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes 
> me wanna remove all the emails from some of my most frequently texted 
> contacts.
> 
> And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
> asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. 
> This is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen 
> in the Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd 
> switched off there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does 
> anyone have any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I 
> am located? Nearby explorer sure can.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[regina alvarado]

You can also set up another gesture that is not being used by one of the iPhone 
gestures to do the  three finger triple tap for the screen curtain. I used one 
finger quadruple tap. 

 Reggie Alvarado 

On May 2, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Mitch,
A two or four finger double tap have nothing to do with the screen curtain.
The original question was to help someone who cannot do the three finger 
gesture, so it comes down to Voice Control, which is there to make it possible 
for someone without use of their hands, or at least not effective use of their 
hands to access everything on an iOS device with or without VoiceOver.
 
 
 
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off?
 
Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work 
just as well. From Mich.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off?
 
Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work.
 
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give  
a command to turn screen curtain on or off. 
Harry
 

On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:


Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: Adam Morris
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?
 
Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
curtain on.
Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.



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I wish I did, James. One of the ladies in my card playing group got one, and 
several others got one. They have them at Wal-Mart, is all I know. They aare 
really soft, and I liked it. I could still maybe get one, just not put any 
cards in it unless I do it temporarily. 

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Hey Carolyn,  Do you have a link or model number for the case with a lanyard?

Thanks,

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And, Wal-Mart has them with lanyards. 

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If you have a case for the IPhone 8, it will fit the new SE.
 
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Hi all,

 

Does anyone know about any durable case for an iPhone SE 2nd generation.

 

It must have a hole in the case to atatch a lanyard.

 

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RE: Siri and location

[Carolyn]

I do not have that weather issue on my fairly new 11. 

But, I do have her ask me all kind of options about a text, if I say, send text 
message to Mary Smith. Another thing that I have a really hard time making Siri 
do is a group text, even when I give the command send group text to Mary Smith, 
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to Mary Smith? 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri and location

Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and stupider. 
For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted that their 
iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person it asks me 
whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an email. Those 
were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm talking quite some 
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number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes me wanna remove all the 
emails from some of my most frequently texted contacts.

And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. This 
is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen in the 
Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd switched off 
there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does anyone have 
any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I am located? 
Nearby explorer sure can.

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RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

[bentleyj1952]

Hey Carolyn,  Do you have a link or model number for the case with a lanyard?

Thanks,

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

And, Wal-Mart has them with lanyards. 

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Fred Olver
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

If you have a case for the IPhone 8, it will fit the new SE.
 
Fred Olver

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020


Hi all,

 

Does anyone know about any durable case for an iPhone SE 2nd generation.

 

It must have a hole in the case to atatch a lanyard.

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

 



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RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Carolyn]

If VoiceOver does not come up, can't you ask Siri to launch it. 

Occasionally, my husband'swill on his tablet, and all he does is ask Siri to 
turn VoiceOver off, and she does. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Portia Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

Wow, glad your setup went smoothly. Or at least pretty much smoothly, from your 
setup steps.
However, a warning for any newcommers to the iPhone SE2020.
If you start setup, turn on Voicer, it may not speak at all and you may have to 
get sighted help. Someone from the audiogames.net forum said thy had this 
issue, so just thought I'd bring it up, in case they werent on here.

Portia.

On 4/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a 
> new iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved 
> as I only do this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE 
> 2020 directly from the Apple Store app with no SIM card included since 
> I have a prepaid Verizon plan and could not specify my carrier successfully 
> when ordering.
> The below numbered list will be very detailed since I'd rather have 
> too much information than not enough. Any settings provided came from 
> my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4.1.
>
>
>
>1.Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running
> its latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the 
> lightning cable, and did an encrypted backup.
>
>2.Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple
> ID - iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and 
> executing Backup now.
>
>3.I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any
> books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored 
> iPhone, I made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I 
> wanted to re-download to my new iPhone and the location of any current 
> reading position in those books.
>
>4.I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the
> new phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen 
> appeared a few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and 
> I pressed the home button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover. 
> Although I was hearing clicks as I swiped, Voiceover did not start 
> talking until a number of seconds later. In fact, I pressed the home 
> button 3 times again because I wasn't sure I had turned Voiceover on. 
> This turned Voiceover off and I had to press the home button 3 times 
> again to turn it back on and I heard Voiceover say hello and when I 
> swiped once, Voiceover said press home to open.
>
>5.I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list
> of
> language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.
>
>6.The screen which opened said Select your country or region
> heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the 
> first in the list.
>
>7.The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your
> current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The 
> older iPhone must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on. 
> There was a button at the end to Set up manually.
>
>8.A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using
> my apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position 
> some pattern in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually 
> button instead.
>
>9.I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code
> displayed on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old 
> iPhone. My new iPhone then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old 
> iPhone. I had to double tap each number on the on screen number pad on 
> my new iPhone since touch typing was not turned on.
>
> 10.I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.
>
> 11.Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and
> lift my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said 
> Adjust your grip and it said keep going to capture the edges of your 
> grip. I double tapped a Continue button at the bottom of this screen.
>
> 12.I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I
> got
> the Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then executed 
> the Continue button at the bottom of that screen.
>
> 13.The next screen said Transfer your data heading. The explanation
> said you can directly transfer your data during setup or finish 
> downloading it later. Buttons on this screen were Transfer from 
> iPhone, Download from iCloud, or other options. The Transfer from 
> iPhone said the time to transfer was about 1 hour. The download from 
> iCloud said I could start using my iPhone in about 15 

RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience

[Carolyn]

That is good news, Joshua. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 2:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

Thanks for all your encouragement.  My phone is working fine.  I have made 
several calls since the incident happened, and have also used a bluetooth 
speaker and headset.  Glad to know my iPhone is tougher then I first thought.

On 5/1/20, Mike B.  wrote:
> That is so totally cool!
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when 
> I pee
>
> it cleans the toilet.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:44 PM
> Subject: RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience
>
>
> It really isn't a big deal especially with anything like the iPhone 8 
> which
>
> Josh has and newer. The iPhone 8 has a rating of IP67 which means you 
> can actually submerse it under 3 feet of water for 30 minutes and it 
> should not
>
> hurt the phone. Of course while Apple tests this, they wouldn't 
> recommend you routinely do this, but just in case if it did fall into 
> a full bath tub
>
> and you took it out nothing bad would happen. The latest iPhones are 
> actually IP68 which means they can stand submersion under 2 meters (a 
> bit over 6 and a half feet) for I think 30 minutes or 1 hour.
> Some of you may remember the story of my 6S Plus which I got after it 
> was released in September 2016. Then at Christmas I visited my family 
> in northern British Columbia, went for a walk when it was -30 degrees 
> out and promptly lost my phone. Despite hours of search along the 
> approx. three quarter long driveway (my family has a working ranch in 
> a very remote area)
>
> nobody found the phone. About 4 month later in mid April when the snow 
> was gone my brother had another look and easily found it only feet 
> away from where they all looked before, it was lying in the mud, by 
> then it had gotten
>
> warmer, during the winter it got warmer, it got cold again, it snowed 
> and it
>
> rained and all in all you'd think the phone would be dead. I told my 
> brother
>
> to stick it in a bag of rice and to mail it to me, by the time he went 
> to town and I received about a week passed and as soon as I got it I 
> simply plugged it in. At first nothing at all happened and I got busy 
> at my store,
>
> then a couple of hours later I came back in the office and not 
> expecting anything I pushed the side button, Voiceover came on loud 
> and clear asking for my PIN, as soon as I put it in the phone went 
> crazy with dozens of notifications, messages and emails coming in. 
> Since by then I had gotten a new phone this meant the SIM card was 
> deactivated, yet after all this time in the harsh elements the phone 
> connected to my store's WiFi and at first I
>
> thought all was working, in fact, I could make Facetime calls and all 
> seemed
>
> normal. This lasted until I told one of my sighted employees with 
> great astonishment that my phone had been found and was still working, 
> but then he
>
> said that the screen was black. At first I thought screen curtain was 
> on, but it was not and nothing we did made any difference. In other 
> words, the phone was working normally except that the screen was 
> obviously not working
>
> at all and later when I took it to an Apple store and they ran 
> diagnostics they also told me the camera seemed to be damaged as well. 
> The long story ended with me being able to get a replacement iPhone 6S 
> Plus from Apple for
>
> a relatively small fee under the Apple Care Plus coverage I had 
> purchased when I bought the phone, but still I thought it was pretty 
> cool it survived
>
> this long period lying out in the open in harsh weather even though it 
> didn't survive 100%, but all the touch gestures were working, all the 
> radios
>
> from WiFi to Bluetooth and so on were working, just the display 
> apparently was damaged as was the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if 
> all would have been fine had this been an iPhone 8 or even an XR, XS, 11 or 
> 11 Pro.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Maria
>
> Reyes
> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience
>
> you should be good. I know when I knocked my phone off the counter 
> into the
>
> sink while the water was running I removed it right away and dried the 
> screen off. luckily my phone had a screen protector on it. It seems 
> fine after a few months since that incident happened. I took of the 
> screen protector and case and shook the phone just to make sure all 
> the water had come out. the speaker sounded funny for a few hours but 
> they went back to normal.
>
> sent 

Siri and location

[deidre muccio]

Good morning all, it is sunny and clear here and truly spring like in western 
Massachusetts. But that's not what the weather report said. Just kidding.
Many updates ago I complain that Siri seem to be getting stupider and stupider. 
For instance if I have a contact in contacts and I have it noted that their 
iPhone is an iPhone, when I ask Siri to text message that person it asks me 
whether I want to text message them using the phone number or an email. Those 
were questions I was never asked in previous updates and I'm talking quite some 
time ago at this point. Why would I want to email them rather than use a phone 
number? Is there some good reason for that? It makes me wanna remove all the 
emails from some of my most frequently texted contacts.

And here's another odd thing that the new iOS on my new SE is doing. When I 
asked Siri how cold it is outside she keeps asking me where I am located. This 
is with location tracking on. This is even with my current city chosen in the 
Weather app. I went into Maps to see if there was something odd switched off 
there and didn't notice anything that might help with this. Does anyone have 
any clue what this might be about? Why Siri cannot locate where I am located? 
Nearby explorer sure can.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: iTunes for Windows

[Andrew Roberts]

Are these numbers for if calling from the States?  I am in the UK.

Many thanks,

Andrew Andrew 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 02 May 2020 15:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows

I'd try both Microsoft Accessibility help and Apple Accessibility help.
Microsoft: 800-936-5900
Apple: 877-204-3930

HTH,


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
Roberts
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows

Hi,

Firstly, please accept my apologies if this message is off topic for this list, 
but as it is about an Apple product I thought I might just get away with it.

I am running iTunes version 12.10.6.2 under Windows 10.

For some reason (and this has only happened fairly recently) I can no longer 
access the “for you” section of Apple Music.  When I try I get the message “an 
error has occurred”.  The only option I then have is a “try again” button.  
Pressing that achieves absolutely nothing.  Does anyone know what the problem 
might be please?  I can access every other aspect of the program, my library, 
the store, you name it, I can even browse for Apple Music tracks, I just can’t 
access the “for you” section and yet I can on my iOS devices.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Andrew


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RE: Turning screen curtain off?

[Richard Turner]

Mitch,
A two or four finger double tap have nothing to do with the screen curtain.
The original question was to help someone who cannot do the three finger 
gesture, so it comes down to Voice Control, which is there to make it possible 
for someone without use of their hands, or at least not effective use of their 
hands to access everything on an iOS device with or without VoiceOver.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off?

Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work 
just as well. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off?

Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work.

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give  
a command to turn screen curtain on or off.
Harry

On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave 
mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
curtain on.
Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.



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RE: iTunes for Windows

[Richard Turner]

I'd try both Microsoft Accessibility help and Apple Accessibility help.
Microsoft: 800-936-5900
Apple: 877-204-3930

HTH,


Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
Roberts
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows

Hi,

Firstly, please accept my apologies if this message is off topic for this list, 
but as it is about an Apple product I thought I might just get away with it.

I am running iTunes version 12.10.6.2 under Windows 10.

For some reason (and this has only happened fairly recently) I can no longer 
access the “for you” section of Apple Music.  When I try I get the message “an 
error has occurred”.  The only option I then have is a “try again” button.  
Pressing that achieves absolutely nothing.  Does anyone know what the problem 
might be please?  I can access every other aspect of the program, my library, 
the store, you name it, I can even browse for Apple Music tracks, I just can’t 
access the “for you” section and yet I can on my iOS devices.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Andrew


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iTunes for Windows

[Andrew Roberts]

Hi,

Firstly, please accept my apologies if this message is off topic for this list, 
but as it is about an Apple product I thought I might just get away with it.

I am running iTunes version 12.10.6.2 under Windows 10.

For some reason (and this has only happened fairly recently) I can no longer 
access the “for you” section of Apple Music.  When I try I get the message “an 
error has occurred”.  The only option I then have is a “try again” button.  
Pressing that achieves absolutely nothing.  Does anyone know what the problem 
might be please?  I can access every other aspect of the program, my library, 
the store, you name it, I can even browse for Apple Music tracks, I just can’t 
access the “for you” section and yet I can on my iOS devices.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

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Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

[Marie]

Just to let you know from a long time IPhone user, they were not always 
nearly as tough as now. My iPhone 5 took a swim in the toilet and it died a 
sudden death! LOL!




Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

Thanks for all your encouragement.  My phone is working fine.  I have
made several calls since the incident happened, and have also used a
bluetooth speaker and headset.  Glad to know my iPhone is tougher then
I first thought.

On 5/1/20, Mike B.  wrote:

That is so totally cool!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee


it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience


It really isn't a big deal especially with anything like the iPhone 8 
which


Josh has and newer. The iPhone 8 has a rating of IP67 which means you can
actually submerse it under 3 feet of water for 30 minutes and it should 
not


hurt the phone. Of course while Apple tests this, they wouldn't recommend
you routinely do this, but just in case if it did fall into a full bath 
tub


and you took it out nothing bad would happen. The latest iPhones are
actually IP68 which means they can stand submersion under 2 meters (a bit
over 6 and a half feet) for I think 30 minutes or 1 hour.
Some of you may remember the story of my 6S Plus which I got after it was
released in September 2016. Then at Christmas I visited my family in
northern British Columbia, went for a walk when it was -30 degrees out and
promptly lost my phone. Despite hours of search along the approx. three
quarter long driveway (my family has a working ranch in a very remote 
area)


nobody found the phone. About 4 month later in mid April when the snow was
gone my brother had another look and easily found it only feet away from
where they all looked before, it was lying in the mud, by then it had 
gotten


warmer, during the winter it got warmer, it got cold again, it snowed and 
it


rained and all in all you'd think the phone would be dead. I told my 
brother


to stick it in a bag of rice and to mail it to me, by the time he went to
town and I received about a week passed and as soon as I got it I simply
plugged it in. At first nothing at all happened and I got busy at my 
store,


then a couple of hours later I came back in the office and not expecting
anything I pushed the side button, Voiceover came on loud and clear asking
for my PIN, as soon as I put it in the phone went crazy with dozens of
notifications, messages and emails coming in. Since by then I had gotten a
new phone this meant the SIM card was deactivated, yet after all this time
in the harsh elements the phone connected to my store's WiFi and at first 
I


thought all was working, in fact, I could make Facetime calls and all 
seemed


normal. This lasted until I told one of my sighted employees with great
astonishment that my phone had been found and was still working, but then 
he


said that the screen was black. At first I thought screen curtain was on,
but it was not and nothing we did made any difference. In other words, the
phone was working normally except that the screen was obviously not 
working


at all and later when I took it to an Apple store and they ran diagnostics
they also told me the camera seemed to be damaged as well. The long story
ended with me being able to get a replacement iPhone 6S Plus from Apple 
for


a relatively small fee under the Apple Care Plus coverage I had purchased
when I bought the phone, but still I thought it was pretty cool it 
survived


this long period lying out in the open in harsh weather even though it
didn't survive 100%, but all the touch gestures were working, all the 
radios


from WiFi to Bluetooth and so on were working, just the display apparently
was damaged as was the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if all would have
been fine had this been an iPhone 8 or even an XR, XS, 11 or 11 Pro.

Best regards,
Sieghard

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Maria


Reyes
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

you should be good. I know when I knocked my phone off the counter into 
the


sink while the water was running I removed it right away and dried the
screen off. luckily my phone had a screen protector on it. It seems fine
after a few months since that incident happened. I took of the screen
protector and case and shook the phone just to make sure all the water had
come out. the speaker sounded funny for a few hours but they went back to
normal.

sent from the iPhone 11 Pro


On May 1, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
wrote:

I wasn't told how long to wait.  I finished my book and 

Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

[Marie]

They do have some great protection from water but a soda is slightly different 
with the sugar content. I have spilled water on a keyboard with no bad results 
but once spilled coffee with sugar on one and it was toast! However, if things 
are working okay now, I think he is safe. Still scary when things like this 
happen.


Marie

From: Mike B. 
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

That is so totally cool!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience

It really isn't a big deal especially with anything like the iPhone 8 which 
Josh has and newer. The iPhone 8 has a rating of IP67 which means you can 
actually submerse it under 3 feet of water for 30 minutes and it should not 
hurt the phone. Of course while Apple tests this, they wouldn't recommend you 
routinely do this, but just in case if it did fall into a full bath tub and you 
took it out nothing bad would happen. The latest iPhones are actually IP68 
which means they can stand submersion under 2 meters (a bit over 6 and a half 
feet) for I think 30 minutes or 1 hour.
Some of you may remember the story of my 6S Plus which I got after it was 
released in September 2016. Then at Christmas I visited my family in northern 
British Columbia, went for a walk when it was -30 degrees out and promptly lost 
my phone. Despite hours of search along the approx. three quarter long driveway 
(my family has a working ranch in a very remote area) nobody found the phone. 
About 4 month later in mid April when the snow was gone my brother had another 
look and easily found it only feet away from where they all looked before, it 
was lying in the mud, by then it had gotten warmer, during the winter it got 
warmer, it got cold again, it snowed and it rained and all in all you'd think 
the phone would be dead. I told my brother to stick it in a bag of rice and to 
mail it to me, by the time he went to town and I received about a week passed 
and as soon as I got it I simply plugged it in. At first nothing at all 
happened and I got busy at my store, then a couple of hours later I came back 
in the office and not expecting anything I pushed the side button, Voiceover 
came on loud and clear asking for my PIN, as soon as I put it in the phone went 
crazy with dozens of notifications, messages and emails coming in. Since by 
then I had gotten a new phone this meant the SIM card was deactivated, yet 
after all this time in the harsh elements the phone connected to my store's 
WiFi and at first I thought all was working, in fact, I could make Facetime 
calls and all seemed normal. This lasted until I told one of my sighted 
employees with great astonishment that my phone had been found and was still 
working, but then he said that the screen was black. At first I thought screen 
curtain was on, but it was not and nothing we did made any difference. In other 
words, the phone was working normally except that the screen was obviously not 
working at all and later when I took it to an Apple store and they ran 
diagnostics they also told me the camera seemed to be damaged as well. The long 
story ended with me being able to get a replacement iPhone 6S Plus from Apple 
for a relatively small fee under the Apple Care Plus coverage I had purchased 
when I bought the phone, but still I thought it was pretty cool it survived 
this long period lying out in the open in harsh weather even though it didn't 
survive 100%, but all the touch gestures were working, all the radios from WiFi 
to Bluetooth and so on were working, just the display apparently was damaged as 
was the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if all would have been fine had this 
been an iPhone 8 or even an XR, XS, 11 or 11 Pro.

Best regards,
Sieghard

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

you should be good. I know when I knocked my phone off the counter into the 
sink while the water was running I removed it right away and dried the screen 
off. luckily my phone had a screen protector on it. It seems fine after a few 
months since that incident happened. I took of the screen protector and case 
and shook the phone just to make sure all the water had come out. the speaker 
sounded funny for a few hours but they went back to normal. 

sent from the iPhone 11 Pro

> On May 1, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I wasn't told how long to wait.  I finished my book and I had my 
> iPhone resting face down for at least a couple of hours, maybe longer.
> It feels completely dry and isn't sticky at all.
> 
>> 

RE: Turning screen curtain off?

[Mich Verrier]

Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work 
just as well. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off?

 

Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work.

 

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give  
a command to turn screen curtain on or off. 

Harry





On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

 

Dave.

 

 

From: Adam Morris   

Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM

To: viPhone   

Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

 

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
curtain on.
Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.





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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

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Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work.

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> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once
> voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you
> can give  a command to turn screen curtain on or off.
> Harry
>
> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> *From:* Adam Morris 
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
> *To:* viPhone 
> *Subject:* Turning screen curtain off?
>
> Hi all,
> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their
> screen curtain on.
> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
> TIA.
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

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Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice 
control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give  
a command to turn screen curtain on or off. 
Harry

> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave  wrote:
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> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.
>  
> Dave.
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>  
> From: Adam Morris
> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Turning screen curtain off?
>  
> Hi all,
> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
> curtain on.
> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Dave]

Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain.

Dave.


From: Adam Morris 
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Turning screen curtain off?

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
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Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[l . d . ethier23]

Yes!?True, I forgot this option.

Lyne

> Le 2 mai 2020 à 06:43, Michael Feir  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hello Adam. I just had a brief poke around for a solution. Unfortunately, 
> there's no toggle in VoiceOver settings for the screen curtain. Using Siri 
> isn't an option since it seems to think you want to control curtains 
> connected via the home kit. The only thought which occurs to me is going into 
> the VoiceOver commands settings and changing the screen curtain gesture to 
> some other gesture which isn't already used for something else and might be 
> easier for her. I cover this sort of thing in the guide I just released last 
> Monday. You'll find a link to my blog where you can find the guide. It's also 
> on Applevis. Best of luck to you.
>> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:20 AM Adam Morris  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their 
>> screen curtain on.
>> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
>> TIA.
>> 
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[l . d . ethier23]

Hello,
Don't think... Siri cannot do it. You can practice this gesture on a table. 
Quick triple tape with Three fingers with a little space between each and 
important, use the soft part of the finger,
The secret, taking your time.  

Lyne

> Le 2 mai 2020 à 06:20, Adam Morris  a écrit :
> 
>  Hi all,
> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen 
> curtain on.
> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
> TIA.
> 
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Re: Turning screen curtain off?

[Michael Feir]

Hello Adam. I just had a brief poke around for a solution. Unfortunately,
there's no toggle in VoiceOver settings for the screen curtain. Using Siri
isn't an option since it seems to think you want to control curtains
connected via the home kit. The only thought which occurs to me is going
into the VoiceOver commands settings and changing the screen curtain
gesture to some other gesture which isn't already used for something else
and might be easier for her. I cover this sort of thing in the guide I just
released last Monday. You'll find a link to my blog where you can find the
guide. It's also on Applevis. Best of luck to you.
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:20 AM Adam Morris  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their
> screen curtain on.
> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
> TIA.
>
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Turning screen curtain off?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,
Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their 
screen curtain on.

Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap?
TIA.


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RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience

[Simon A Fogarty]

There was a storey from I believe mac rumours a few months back where someone 
lost an iPhone in to a pool within Disney land,

 After a  number of days, they cleaned the pool out and got the phone which was 
then returned to the owner 
When the owner charged the phone back up it was still working.

 At least that is the gist of the story,
It was after the time period that apple have given and yet the phone was still 
able to be brought back to life 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience

It really isn't a big deal especially with anything like the iPhone 8 which 
Josh has and newer. The iPhone 8 has a rating of IP67 which means you can 
actually submerse it under 3 feet of water for 30 minutes and it should not 
hurt the phone. Of course while Apple tests this, they wouldn't recommend you 
routinely do this, but just in case if it did fall into a full bath tub and you 
took it out nothing bad would happen. The latest iPhones are actually IP68 
which means they can stand submersion under 2 meters (a bit over 6 and a half 
feet) for I think 30 minutes or 1 hour.
Some of you may remember the story of my 6S Plus which I got after it was 
released in September 2016. Then at Christmas I visited my family in northern 
British Columbia, went for a walk when it was -30 degrees out and promptly lost 
my phone. Despite hours of search along the approx. three quarter long driveway 
(my family has a working ranch in a very remote area) nobody found the phone. 
About 4 month later in mid April when the snow was gone my brother had another 
look and easily found it only feet away from where they all looked before, it 
was lying in the mud, by then it had gotten warmer, during the winter it got 
warmer, it got cold again, it snowed and it rained and all in all you'd think 
the phone would be dead. I told my brother to stick it in a bag of rice and to 
mail it to me, by the time he went to town and I received about a week passed 
and as soon as I got it I simply plugged it in. At first nothing at all 
happened and I got busy at my store, then a couple of hours later I came back 
in the office and not expecting anything I pushed the side button, Voiceover 
came on loud and clear asking for my PIN, as soon as I put it in the phone went 
crazy with dozens of notifications, messages and emails coming in. Since by 
then I had gotten a new phone this meant the SIM card was deactivated, yet 
after all this time in the harsh elements the phone connected to my store's 
WiFi and at first I thought all was working, in fact, I could make Facetime 
calls and all seemed normal. This lasted until I told one of my sighted 
employees with great astonishment that my phone had been found and was still 
working, but then he said that the screen was black. At first I thought screen 
curtain was on, but it was not and nothing we did made any difference. In other 
words, the phone was working normally except that the screen was obviously not 
working at all and later when I took it to an Apple store and they ran 
diagnostics they also told me the camera seemed to be damaged as well. The long 
story ended with me being able to get a replacement iPhone 6S Plus from Apple 
for a relatively small fee under the Apple Care Plus coverage I had purchased 
when I bought the phone, but still I thought it was pretty cool it survived 
this long period lying out in the open in harsh weather even though it didn't 
survive 100%, but all the touch gestures were working, all the radios from WiFi 
to Bluetooth and so on were working, just the display apparently was damaged as 
was the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if all would have been fine had this 
been an iPhone 8 or even an XR, XS, 11 or 11 Pro.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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you should be good. I know when I knocked my phone off the counter into the 
sink while the water was running I removed it right away and dried the screen 
off. luckily my phone had a screen protector on it. It seems fine after a few 
months since that incident happened. I took of the screen protector and case 
and shook the phone just to make sure all the water had come out. the speaker 
sounded funny for a few hours but they went back to normal. 

sent from the iPhone 11 Pro

> On May 1, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I wasn't told how long to wait.  I finished my book and I had my 
> iPhone resting face down for at least a couple of hours, maybe longer.
> It feels completely dry and isn't sticky at all.
> 
>> On 5/1/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> You likely do not have to do anything more if that is all they said to do.
>> You could call them back 

RE: original SE contacts question

[Simon A Fogarty]

Do you keep your contacts sync'ed with iCloud?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nancy 
Hill
Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 1:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: original SE contacts question

I have the original SE.  The list of contacts is growing lone enough so I am 
concerned about possibly losing them.


I would love to be able to lift the list of contacts  off the phone as a 
file or folder and keep the contacts list off phone.


Is there a way to do such a thing?


Thanks in advance for your help!

Nancy

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RE: Mail

[Simon A Fogarty]

On one of the devices

Do you have mail setup as a pop3 account by any chance?
And then a different setup
Say iMap on your phone?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 1:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mail

I have two email accounts, there were no unread messages in my Verizon.net 
account.
Nothing in junk in either account.

I am running Outlook 365, with a Windows 7 laptop, and Windows 10 desktop.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mail

Do you by any chance have more than 1 mail box / account?

Also have you a junk folder that might have mail in it?

Which mail client are you using on your device?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2020 11:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail

I am running the latest version of iOS, with an iPhone 10r.

What I have noticed is on my phone it will say I have 928 unread emails, but 
when I go to my Gmail on the PC it says I have 938 messages.
I’ve gone to my messages, and I cannot figure out where the discrepancy is with 
both sets of numbers.
On May 1, 2020, at 4:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Richard I’m running a Pub beta and I’ve not seen this as yet,
I’ll keep an eye on it but either they have fixed it or I’m just very lucky 
currently.

I’m going with they’ve fixed it as I’m still in a lockdown and hven’t won our 
lottery so lucks not on my side at the moment.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2020 1:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail

Yes, this is a known bug in iOS 13.
It was reported while in beta.
Maybe when the next version comes out, it will finally be fixed.
Very annoying.

Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On Apr 30, 2020, at 5:10 AM, deidre muccio 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all
i've just moved to the new SC from an iPhone 6 actually I had an interim phone 
which was a 6S with 13 on it. But there's something buggy about the Mail 
program on my new phone which Apple Accessibility has said is a bug. I'm 
wondering if anyone else is noticing it and if they found a workaround.
after I read a message and delete it I am thrown back to the very top of the 
page which says Gmail. From there I have to swipe down to get to the next 
message. It's not automatically keeping me where the messages are. It's  a 
nuisance to have to keep going from the top back down to wear the next unread 
message starts to be listed. I don't know  if collapsing the messages after 
reading or not makes any difference. Seems I've tried both and I still have 
this problem. Has anyone found a workaround or does anyone know what to do 
about the sort of thing? Am I the only one this is happening to? No I'm not 
paranoid! Sent from my iPhone

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Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

[Tali Sarnetzky]

Glad your phone is OK.

If someone has such an accident with an older phone or wants to be
sure, pour rice into a bag or a box, put your phone in the rice for a
day or two and it should be dry and good as new.

On 5/2/20, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> Thanks for all your encouragement.  My phone is working fine.  I have
> made several calls since the incident happened, and have also used a
> bluetooth speaker and headset.  Glad to know my iPhone is tougher then
> I first thought.
>
> On 5/1/20, Mike B.  wrote:
>> That is so totally cool!
>>
>> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I
>> pee
>>
>> it cleans the toilet.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:44 PM
>> Subject: RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience
>>
>>
>> It really isn't a big deal especially with anything like the iPhone 8
>> which
>>
>> Josh has and newer. The iPhone 8 has a rating of IP67 which means you can
>> actually submerse it under 3 feet of water for 30 minutes and it should
>> not
>>
>> hurt the phone. Of course while Apple tests this, they wouldn't recommend
>> you routinely do this, but just in case if it did fall into a full bath
>> tub
>>
>> and you took it out nothing bad would happen. The latest iPhones are
>> actually IP68 which means they can stand submersion under 2 meters (a bit
>> over 6 and a half feet) for I think 30 minutes or 1 hour.
>> Some of you may remember the story of my 6S Plus which I got after it was
>> released in September 2016. Then at Christmas I visited my family in
>> northern British Columbia, went for a walk when it was -30 degrees out
>> and
>> promptly lost my phone. Despite hours of search along the approx. three
>> quarter long driveway (my family has a working ranch in a very remote
>> area)
>>
>> nobody found the phone. About 4 month later in mid April when the snow
>> was
>> gone my brother had another look and easily found it only feet away from
>> where they all looked before, it was lying in the mud, by then it had
>> gotten
>>
>> warmer, during the winter it got warmer, it got cold again, it snowed and
>> it
>>
>> rained and all in all you'd think the phone would be dead. I told my
>> brother
>>
>> to stick it in a bag of rice and to mail it to me, by the time he went to
>> town and I received about a week passed and as soon as I got it I simply
>> plugged it in. At first nothing at all happened and I got busy at my
>> store,
>>
>> then a couple of hours later I came back in the office and not expecting
>> anything I pushed the side button, Voiceover came on loud and clear
>> asking
>> for my PIN, as soon as I put it in the phone went crazy with dozens of
>> notifications, messages and emails coming in. Since by then I had gotten
>> a
>> new phone this meant the SIM card was deactivated, yet after all this
>> time
>> in the harsh elements the phone connected to my store's WiFi and at first
>> I
>>
>> thought all was working, in fact, I could make Facetime calls and all
>> seemed
>>
>> normal. This lasted until I told one of my sighted employees with great
>> astonishment that my phone had been found and was still working, but then
>> he
>>
>> said that the screen was black. At first I thought screen curtain was on,
>> but it was not and nothing we did made any difference. In other words,
>> the
>> phone was working normally except that the screen was obviously not
>> working
>>
>> at all and later when I took it to an Apple store and they ran
>> diagnostics
>> they also told me the camera seemed to be damaged as well. The long story
>> ended with me being able to get a replacement iPhone 6S Plus from Apple
>> for
>>
>> a relatively small fee under the Apple Care Plus coverage I had purchased
>> when I bought the phone, but still I thought it was pretty cool it
>> survived
>>
>> this long period lying out in the open in harsh weather even though it
>> didn't survive 100%, but all the touch gestures were working, all the
>> radios
>>
>> from WiFi to Bluetooth and so on were working, just the display
>> apparently
>> was damaged as was the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if all would have
>> been fine had this been an iPhone 8 or even an XR, XS, 11 or 11 Pro.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Maria
>>
>> Reyes
>> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience
>>
>> you should be good. I know when I knocked my phone off the counter into
>> the
>>
>> sink while the water was running I removed it right away and dried the
>> screen off. luckily my phone had a screen protector on it. It seems fine
>> after a few months since that incident happened. I took of the screen
>> protector and case and shook the phone just to make sure all the water
>> had
>> come out. the speaker 

Re: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Portia Scott]

Sorry for any misspellings, lol. This Windows laptop is many years old, lol.

On 5/2/20, Portia Scott  wrote:
> Wow, glad your setup went smoothly. Or at least pretty much smoothly,
> from your setup steps.
> However, a warning for any newcommers to the iPhone SE2020.
> If you start setup, turn on Voicer, it may not speak at all and you
> may have to get sighted help. Someone from the audiogames.net forum
> said thy had this issue, so just thought I'd bring it up, in case they
> werent on here.
>
> Portia.
>
> On 4/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Hi List,
>>
>>
>>
>> I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a
>> new
>> iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved as I
>> only
>> do this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE 2020 directly
>> from the Apple Store app with no SIM card included since I have a prepaid
>> Verizon plan and could not specify my carrier successfully when ordering.
>> The below numbered list will be very detailed since I'd rather have too
>> much
>> information than not enough. Any settings provided came from my iPhone 8
>> running iOS 13.4.1.
>>
>>
>>
>>1.Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was
>> running
>> its latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the lightning
>> cable, and did an encrypted backup.
>>
>>2.Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly -
>> Apple
>> ID - iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and executing
>> Backup now.
>>
>>3.I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since
>> any
>> books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored
>> iPhone,
>> I made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I wanted to
>> re-download to my new iPhone and the location of any current reading
>> position in those books.
>>
>>4.I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the
>> new phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen
>> appeared a few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and I
>> pressed the home button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover. Although I
>> was
>> hearing clicks as I swiped, Voiceover did not start talking until a
>> number
>> of seconds later. In fact, I pressed the home button 3 times again
>> because
>> I
>> wasn't sure I had turned Voiceover on. This turned Voiceover off and I
>> had
>> to press the home button 3 times again to turn it back on and I heard
>> Voiceover say hello and when I swiped once, Voiceover said press home to
>> open.
>>
>>5.I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list
>> of
>> language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.
>>
>>6.The screen which opened said Select your country or region
>> heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the first
>> in
>> the list.
>>
>>7.The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your
>> current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The older
>> iPhone must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on. There was
>> a
>> button at the end to Set up manually.
>>
>>8.A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone
>> using
>> my apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position some
>> pattern in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually button
>> instead.
>>
>>9.I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code
>> displayed on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old iPhone.
>> My
>> new iPhone then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old iPhone. I had
>> to
>> double tap each number on the on screen number pad on my new iPhone since
>> touch typing was not turned on.
>>
>> 10.I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I
>> did.
>>
>> 11.Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger
>> and
>> lift my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said
>> Adjust
>> your grip and it said keep going to capture the edges of your grip. I
>> double
>> tapped a Continue button at the bottom of this screen.
>>
>> 12.I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I
>> got
>> the Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then executed
>> the
>> Continue button at the bottom of that screen.
>>
>> 13.The next screen said Transfer your data heading. The
>> explanation
>> said you can directly transfer your data during setup or finish
>> downloading
>> it later. Buttons on this screen were Transfer from iPhone, Download from
>> iCloud, or other options. The Transfer from iPhone said the time to
>> transfer
>> was about 1 hour. The download from iCloud said I could start using my
>> iPhone in about 15 minutes and my data would download later over wifi. I
>> executed the Transfer from iPhone button.
>>
>> 14.I was taken to a Terms and conditions screen on the new iPhone
>> 

Re: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Portia Scott]

Wow, glad your setup went smoothly. Or at least pretty much smoothly,
from your setup steps.
However, a warning for any newcommers to the iPhone SE2020.
If you start setup, turn on Voicer, it may not speak at all and you
may have to get sighted help. Someone from the audiogames.net forum
said thy had this issue, so just thought I'd bring it up, in case they
werent on here.

Portia.

On 4/30/20, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a new
> iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved as I only
> do this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE 2020 directly
> from the Apple Store app with no SIM card included since I have a prepaid
> Verizon plan and could not specify my carrier successfully when ordering.
> The below numbered list will be very detailed since I'd rather have too
> much
> information than not enough. Any settings provided came from my iPhone 8
> running iOS 13.4.1.
>
>
>
>1.Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running
> its latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the lightning
> cable, and did an encrypted backup.
>
>2.Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple
> ID - iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and executing
> Backup now.
>
>3.I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any
> books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored iPhone,
> I made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I wanted to
> re-download to my new iPhone and the location of any current reading
> position in those books.
>
>4.I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the
> new phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen
> appeared a few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and I
> pressed the home button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover. Although I
> was
> hearing clicks as I swiped, Voiceover did not start talking until a number
> of seconds later. In fact, I pressed the home button 3 times again because
> I
> wasn't sure I had turned Voiceover on. This turned Voiceover off and I had
> to press the home button 3 times again to turn it back on and I heard
> Voiceover say hello and when I swiped once, Voiceover said press home to
> open.
>
>5.I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list
> of
> language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.
>
>6.The screen which opened said Select your country or region
> heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the first in
> the list.
>
>7.The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your
> current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The older
> iPhone must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on. There was a
> button at the end to Set up manually.
>
>8.A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using
> my apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position some
> pattern in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually button
> instead.
>
>9.I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code
> displayed on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old iPhone. My
> new iPhone then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old iPhone. I had to
> double tap each number on the on screen number pad on my new iPhone since
> touch typing was not turned on.
>
> 10.I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.
>
> 11.Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and
> lift my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said Adjust
> your grip and it said keep going to capture the edges of your grip. I
> double
> tapped a Continue button at the bottom of this screen.
>
> 12.I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I
> got
> the Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then executed the
> Continue button at the bottom of that screen.
>
> 13.The next screen said Transfer your data heading. The explanation
> said you can directly transfer your data during setup or finish downloading
> it later. Buttons on this screen were Transfer from iPhone, Download from
> iCloud, or other options. The Transfer from iPhone said the time to
> transfer
> was about 1 hour. The download from iCloud said I could start using my
> iPhone in about 15 minutes and my data would download later over wifi. I
> executed the Transfer from iPhone button.
>
> 14.I was taken to a Terms and conditions screen on the new iPhone
> where I double tapped an Agree button in the bottom right corner.
>
> 15.I was taken to a Settings from other iPhone heading screen where
> it listed some settings about allowing Siri to use voice input, contacts,
> etc. and allowing maps to use my location. I executed 

Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Thanks for all your encouragement.  My phone is working fine.  I have
made several calls since the incident happened, and have also used a
bluetooth speaker and headset.  Glad to know my iPhone is tougher then
I first thought.

On 5/1/20, Mike B.  wrote:
> That is so totally cool!
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee
>
> it cleans the toilet.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:44 PM
> Subject: RE: just had a very scary iPhone experience
>
>
> It really isn't a big deal especially with anything like the iPhone 8 which
>
> Josh has and newer. The iPhone 8 has a rating of IP67 which means you can
> actually submerse it under 3 feet of water for 30 minutes and it should not
>
> hurt the phone. Of course while Apple tests this, they wouldn't recommend
> you routinely do this, but just in case if it did fall into a full bath tub
>
> and you took it out nothing bad would happen. The latest iPhones are
> actually IP68 which means they can stand submersion under 2 meters (a bit
> over 6 and a half feet) for I think 30 minutes or 1 hour.
> Some of you may remember the story of my 6S Plus which I got after it was
> released in September 2016. Then at Christmas I visited my family in
> northern British Columbia, went for a walk when it was -30 degrees out and
> promptly lost my phone. Despite hours of search along the approx. three
> quarter long driveway (my family has a working ranch in a very remote area)
>
> nobody found the phone. About 4 month later in mid April when the snow was
> gone my brother had another look and easily found it only feet away from
> where they all looked before, it was lying in the mud, by then it had gotten
>
> warmer, during the winter it got warmer, it got cold again, it snowed and it
>
> rained and all in all you'd think the phone would be dead. I told my brother
>
> to stick it in a bag of rice and to mail it to me, by the time he went to
> town and I received about a week passed and as soon as I got it I simply
> plugged it in. At first nothing at all happened and I got busy at my store,
>
> then a couple of hours later I came back in the office and not expecting
> anything I pushed the side button, Voiceover came on loud and clear asking
> for my PIN, as soon as I put it in the phone went crazy with dozens of
> notifications, messages and emails coming in. Since by then I had gotten a
> new phone this meant the SIM card was deactivated, yet after all this time
> in the harsh elements the phone connected to my store's WiFi and at first I
>
> thought all was working, in fact, I could make Facetime calls and all seemed
>
> normal. This lasted until I told one of my sighted employees with great
> astonishment that my phone had been found and was still working, but then he
>
> said that the screen was black. At first I thought screen curtain was on,
> but it was not and nothing we did made any difference. In other words, the
> phone was working normally except that the screen was obviously not working
>
> at all and later when I took it to an Apple store and they ran diagnostics
> they also told me the camera seemed to be damaged as well. The long story
> ended with me being able to get a replacement iPhone 6S Plus from Apple for
>
> a relatively small fee under the Apple Care Plus coverage I had purchased
> when I bought the phone, but still I thought it was pretty cool it survived
>
> this long period lying out in the open in harsh weather even though it
> didn't survive 100%, but all the touch gestures were working, all the radios
>
> from WiFi to Bluetooth and so on were working, just the display apparently
> was damaged as was the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if all would have
> been fine had this been an iPhone 8 or even an XR, XS, 11 or 11 Pro.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria
>
> Reyes
> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: just had a very scary iPhone experience
>
> you should be good. I know when I knocked my phone off the counter into the
>
> sink while the water was running I removed it right away and dried the
> screen off. luckily my phone had a screen protector on it. It seems fine
> after a few months since that incident happened. I took of the screen
> protector and case and shook the phone just to make sure all the water had
> come out. the speaker sounded funny for a few hours but they went back to
> normal.
>
> sent from the iPhone 11 Pro
>
>> On May 1, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I wasn't told how long to wait.  I finished my book and I had my
>> iPhone resting face down for at least a couple of hours, maybe longer.
>> It feels completely dry and isn't sticky at all.
>>
>>> On 5/1/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> You likely do not have to do