date:20210924

Hi Fazil,

I had no problem with that when I just tested that. Here is what I did:

1. I opened an email which had a PDF attachment
2. At the bottom where the attachment is listed I did a double tapped and hold 
which brings up a menu which starts with Quick View and among a few other 
options has a "Share" option, after I flicked right to Share I double tapped
3. The share sheet now opened and at the top it first showed a number of people 
I had recently communicated with and Voiceover announced their names and which 
app I used, e.g. Messages, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger etc.
I flicked past these and then came to Air Drop, Messages, Mail and so on and 
WhatsApp also showed up. If it does not you may have to go to the entry where 
you can tap to select other apps to show up, sorry can't remember exactly what 
it is called, but it's pretty obvious.
4. After I got to WhatsApp I double tapped and WhatsApp opened with a list of 
contacts I recently chatted with. I double tapped on 2 of them just to see if 
all worked as before and Voiceover announced that they were now selected.
5. Now you go to the very end of your list either by flicking right all the way 
or you can do a 4-finger tap on the bottom half of the screen which should move 
focus to the last element on the screen which should announce the names which 
you selected and a "Next" option.
6. I didn't actually continue here, but you double tap and then a chat window 
opens with your two contacts and the file will now be attached, you can write 
something as you normally would and then tap Send. All seems to work just as it 
did in iOS 14 for me.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: September 24, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unable to Share A Document In WhatsApp?

Hi, Group.
This is the first time when I tried to share a *.pdf document with WhatsApp 
since the upgrade to iOS15. I was unable to share it. This document came to me 
in an email and I was trying to share it.
Does iOS15 not allow WhatsApp sharing?
Thanks!
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RE: need advice

You can still download the same version of iTunes as a desktop application from 
Apple as what you can get from the Microsoft Store.

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Fogarty
Sent: September 24, 2021 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

Are you downloading itunes from the apple website or from the windows / 
Microsoft store?

The Microsoft store is where you go to get iTunes now as apple don’t have the 
updated version on their website any longer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

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Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

And were I you I would ask about using eSim then you don't have to have a 
physical SIM card and if you ever go anywhere on holidays where you might want 
to get a local prepaid plan you can use your SIM tray for that.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: September 24, 2021 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Thanks, Richard. No later than tomorrow morning, I’ll post what I learned by 
tweeting Verizon using a direct message. I encourage everyone to get a Twitter 
account and start considering it for getting support where phone or email 
support seems nonexistent.

Alan

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Alan,
Just did a quick search.  I found this:
Do i need a new sim card for 5g Verizon
You don’t need a new sim card for 5g if you’re a Verizon user, your sim card 
should work in a 5G mobile phone except if your sim card is outdated and too 
old.
This was the statement from Verizon when I inquired if a user can use any sim 
card other than the 5g sim card in a 5G mobile phone. However, as long as you 
have a sim card that worked with the 4G LTE network, it should work in a 5G 
phone as well.
Again they stated that if a user’s 4G sim card didn’t work in a 5G phone, then 
the user should head over to any Verizon store and 
get a new 5G sim card for the phone.
From: Do i need a new sim card for 5g (Or probably not) - 
Gadgetroyale

HTH,

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Thanks, Richard. Good luck with your new iPhone. I'm certainly in no hurry to 
order a new iPhone but I'm a big believer in doing the research and knowing the 
answer before getting hit with an unexpected fee. You should not be charged a 
fee to replace one iPhone with another on the same mobile phone plan in my 
opinion.

I'm sure both the SE 2020 and the iPhone 13 use a nano SIM card but I'm a bit 
unclear about how 5G affects the use of older SIM cards.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with 
Outlook
 for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:19:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Alan,
I'm not with Verizon, but I am pretty sure the SIMS are the same.
I'll know later today, fingers crossed, my new iPhone is supposed to arrive 
today.
Also, I'm going with a friend to the local Verizon corporate store tomorrow to 
help her buy probably a 12 pro. I can ask the Verizon staff person then I'm 
sure.
I know from my working days that if you go to a Verizon store that is a 
"reseller" they will try and ding you for all kinds of stuff.
We took a client to one of those resellers, and they wanted $20 for a sim card.
We then went a bit out of our way to the corporate store, where not only was 
the sim card free; but they took care of the setup with no activation fee.
That was about 3 years ago.
You probably will have to have them activate the new phone or perhaps not 
activate, but associate the sim card with the new phone so they don't think you 
are running an SE 2020 still.
I'll see what I can find out.

Richard
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Jane Wagner

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On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I’m curious when the last time anyone with a Verizon account was able to talk 
to a live Verizon support person on the phone. They’ve taken this automated 
response thing to a new low in my opinion. I must have tried sending a text 
chat three or four times and I always get some automated response saying my 
m

RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Thanks, Richard. No later than tomorrow morning, I’ll post what I learned by 
tweeting Verizon using a direct message. I encourage everyone to get a Twitter 
account and start considering it for getting support where phone or email 
support seems nonexistent.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

 

Alan,

Just did a quick search.  I found this:

Do i need a new sim card for 5g Verizon

You don’t need a new sim card for 5g if you’re a Verizon user, your sim card 
should work in a 5G mobile phone except if your sim card is outdated and too 
old.

This was the statement from Verizon when I inquired if a user can use any sim 
card other than the 5g sim card in a 5G mobile phone. However, as long as you 
have a sim card that worked with the 4G LTE network, it should work in a 5G 
phone as well.

Again they stated that if a user’s 4G sim card didn’t work in a 5G phone, then 
the user should head over to any   Verizon store and 
get a new 5G sim card for the phone.

From: Do i need a new sim card for 5g (Or probably not) - Gadgetroyale 
 

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

 

Thanks, Richard. Good luck with your new iPhone. I'm certainly in no hurry to 
order a new iPhone but I'm a big believer in doing the research and knowing the 
answer before getting hit with an unexpected fee. You should not be charged a 
fee to replace one iPhone with another on the same mobile phone plan in my 
opinion.

 

I'm sure both the SE 2020 and the iPhone 13 use a nano SIM card but I'm a bit 
unclear about how 5G affects the use of older SIM cards.

 

Alan Lemly

  

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook 

  for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:19:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States 

 

Alan, 

I'm not with Verizon, but I am pretty sure the SIMS are the same.

I'll know later today, fingers crossed, my new iPhone is supposed to arrive 
today.

Also, I'm going with a friend to the local Verizon corporate store tomorrow to 
help her buy probably a 12 pro. I can ask the Verizon staff person then I'm 
sure.

I know from my working days that if you go to a Verizon store that is a 
"reseller" they will try and ding you for all kinds of stuff.

We took a client to one of those resellers, and they wanted $20 for a sim card.

We then went a bit out of our way to the corporate store, where not only was 
the sim card free; but they took care of the setup with no activation fee.

That was about 3 years ago.

You probably will have to have them activate the new phone or perhaps not 
activate, but associate the sim card with the new phone so they don't think you 
are running an SE 2020 still.

I'll see what I can find out.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

 

On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi List,

 

I’m curious when the last time anyone with a Verizon account was able to talk 
to a live Verizon support person on the phone. They’ve taken this automated 
response thing to a new low in my opinion. I must have tried sending a text 
chat three or four times and I always get some automated response saying my 
message was not understood and in effect directing me to another option to 
submit my question which seems more like a merry go round than any sort of 
support.

 

I’ll ask my question here. I’m considering purchasing a new iPhone to replace 
my SE 2020 being used on my Verizon Prepaid account. If I’m buying this new 
iPhone directly from Apple, what do I need to do to avoid a Verizon

RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Thanks, Candy. For some reason, I thought Verizon had discontinued their 
Accessibility number so I appreciate your reminding me that it’s still active.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Candy 
Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

 

Alan, actually, I have always had very positive  experiences with Verizon 
customer service.

  In fact, so much so, that I stay with them when I could get a discount from 
AT&T because my husband is a retiree from AT&T. Try the Verizon Disability or 
Accessibility number.  (888) 262-1999 Sent from my iPhone

 





On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:56 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi List,

 

I’m curious when the last time anyone with a Verizon account was able to talk 
to a live Verizon support person on the phone. They’ve taken this automated 
response thing to a new low in my opinion. I must have tried sending a text 
chat three or four times and I always get some automated response saying my 
message was not understood and in effect directing me to another option to 
submit my question which seems more like a merry go round than any sort of 
support.

 

I’ll ask my question here. I’m considering purchasing a new iPhone to replace 
my SE 2020 being used on my Verizon Prepaid account. If I’m buying this new 
iPhone directly from Apple, what do I need to do to avoid a Verizon activation 
fee? In the past, I’ve simply moved my SIM card from my old phone to my new 
phone but I’m not sure if this can be done when going from an SE 2020 to an 
iPhone 13.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly 

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RE: Turning on spatial audio

Good old china,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

They may be a pair of counter fit ones, basically cheap knock-offs which are 
made to look like Airpods Pro but are in fact not.

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Sent: September 23, 2021 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

I ended up getting a pair of Airpods Pro a couple months ago online. I bought 
it on one of the second-hand sites, and when I got them, the listing appeared 
to be honest with what I got in that they were completely packaged as well as 
I'd expect Apple to package things. They did say though that they were sitting 
around unused awhile, and, as they got them free or cheap in some promo. 
However, when I connect them, there is no spatial audio, and noise cancellation 
and transparency do absolutely nothing. I think they are just not updated to 
the latest firmware. How can I force them to update? I also can't find the 
serial number in the about settings under general on my phone. I really wanted 
to try spatial audio, and these Airpods Pro just don't seem to do it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

Open settings, Bluetooth, and on your device that supports spatial audio, flick 
up with one finger to more and double tap.
Flick through those options and spatial audio is near the last item.
You also can get a sample there.
Most likely, it will be on by default but I have not tried to turn it off there.

I have company so will give this more attention later.

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

So go to control center and... I'm getting something wrong as I 
have the IOS 15 update and I'm on an Iphone 12 mini.. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kayla 
King
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning on spatial audio

Hi,
If you go to control center and double tap and hold on the volume control, if 
your device support spatial audio, option should be bottom right.

Sent from my iPhone 8+

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RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

This was mentioned in a mac rumours release 

They believe the under screen touch id will be in the 2023 release of the 
iPhone and a folding iPhone in 2024 

Me,
Don't care 
I just know it will get here when it gets here.

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Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:13 am
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Why are you so sure the iPhone 14 won't have under-glass Touch Id or 
incorporate a Touch Id side button??

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Sent: September 23, 2021 7:16 PM
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Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

Links worked fine. My comment was for those holding their breath for the iPhone 
14. Their beloved fingerprint reader will not be happening.
For those of us who crave small phones, jump on the iPhone 13 before it goes 
away.  It’s double the storage of last year’s 12 for the same price.

Kelly


On 9/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Kelly,
> Are you sending this to show that the links broke up on you?
> The links worked fine for me in Outlook on my computer.
> Are you set to read HTML eemails?
>
>
>
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
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> On 9/23/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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RE: need advice

Are you downloading itunes from the apple website or from the windows / 
Microsoft store?

The Microsoft store is where you go to get iTunes now as apple don’t have the 
updated version on their website any longer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

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Subject: RE: need advice

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

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Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

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RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

I would highly suggest scanning the sensor with the app on your phone
Assuming you are logged in to the app etc.

Then see what happens,

I would think it should want you to click ok for using the in operation sensor.

Possibly though it wont as the reader I’m assuming is not linked to an account
Like the mobile app is.

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Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 10:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

Hi Vivian,
You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the device to 
change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the libre with my 
phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the continuous glucose monitor 
every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It works real well, at least it 
did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do not know if it is possible to 
switch your sensor over to the phone from the reader. Just don’t use the reader 
again. It was an unnecessary expense that they should not have sold you.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger 
mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks for assistance.

Vivian and Sallie




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RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

Yeah in the time I’ve been using the libre system I have never used the reader,

Even my doctor said it’s not usable

I went  directly to the mobile app which is accessible and only gets better as 
they update it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 10:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

Hi Larry,
Are you sure about needing a reader? I have never had the reader, as I 
understood when these things came out and became accessible through the iPhone, 
but the reader was superfluous. You can activate the sensor without the reader, 
unless they’ve changed something, which is incredibly stupid, since the reader 
is otherwise not accessible at all.
I’m really confused. Because I know back when I used these sensors over the 
course of a year or a year and a half often on, no reader was ever necessary. 
I’ve never even seen it.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Larry Wayland 
mailto:lhwayl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each new 
sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to wate 
one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on your 
phone.
Larry



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.
The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.
I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.
Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.
Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  
wins...@voicedream.com





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

Hi All,

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks for assistance.

Vivian and Sallie




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RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Larry Wayland

Your right, the reader is not accessible at all.  What I have been doing is 
letting my wife, who is sighted, activate the sensor with the reader and then I 
use the app on the phone from then on.  I was told by the company this is what 
I would have to do.  However the next sensor I will try activating it with just 
the app on the phone.

Larry

 

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Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

Hi Larry,

Are you sure about needing a reader? I have never had the reader, as I 
understood when these things came out and became accessible through the iPhone, 
but the reader was superfluous. You can activate the sensor without the reader, 
unless they’ve changed something, which is incredibly stupid, since the reader 
is otherwise not accessible at all.

I’m really confused. Because I know back when I used these sensors over the 
course of a year or a year and a half often on, no reader was ever necessary. 
I’ve never even seen it.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Larry Wayland mailto:lhwayl...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:



You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each new 
sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to wate 
one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on your 
phone.

Larry

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.

The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

 

I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.

I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.

Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.

Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  wins...@voicedream.com 
 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Vivian Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

Hi All,

 

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

 

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

 

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

 

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for assistance.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

 

 

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RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

I do know that I can swap phones using the libre link app and use it with the 
same sensor,

So I have the app signsd in on both an iPHone 11pro max
And an SE 2020
I’ve swapped the phone I’m using and each swap just requires the sensor to be 
re scanned before reading,

It just registers the sensor as new but starts working straight away
I don’t have to wait that 60 minutes before using it.

I’m surprised you can’t do that with the reader

Hope you sort it out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the next sensor with 
your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but I don’t recall 
how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve now switched 
over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Vivian,
You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the device to 
change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the libre with my 
phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the continuous glucose monitor 
every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It works real well, at least it 
did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do not know if it is possible to 
switch your sensor over to the phone from the reader. Just don’t use the reader 
again. It was an unnecessary expense that they should not have sold you.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger 
mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks for assistance.

Vivian and Sallie




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RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Vivian Conger

Thanks Everyone,

 

Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and think that yes I 
may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my Libre 2 app to 
activate it.

 

I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and my phone 
thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range.  Didn’t make a 
difference.  😉

 

The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the reader is Libre 
2.  Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8.

 

So for now I will use the reader to scan the sensor and have Voice Dream 
Scanner read what the display shows.  

 

Looking forward to using my phone as the alerts on the reader are not very loud.

 

Again thanks everyone for all the comments and suggestions.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

As others have said, you don’t need the reader.  I am not diabetic, but my 
husband is, and he is totally blind and uses it every day with just the app.  I 
have a feeling that since you activated the sensor with the reader, that you 
may not be able to use this particular sensor with the app, but after this 
14-day sensor is finished, just apply the new sensor and use the app to scan 
it.  Also, as others have said, after you activate it, you will need to wait an 
hour.  The app will notify you when your hour is over and prompt you to scan 
for a reading.  We have never had a reader with my husband’s unit, as I talked 
with a coworker and he told me not to get it, as the app is the most accessible 
way to use the Libre.  We told the doctor that we didn’t want or need the 
reader.  Hope this is helpful.

 





On Sep 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Joney Owen mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the next sensor with 
your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but I don’t recall 
how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve now switched 
over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors.



Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Vivian,

You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the device to 
change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the libre with my 
phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the continuous glucose monitor 
every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It works real well, at least it 
did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do not know if it is possible to 
switch your sensor over to the phone from the reader. Just don’t use the reader 
again. It was an unnecessary expense that they should not have sold you.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi All,

 

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

 

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

 

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

 

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for assistance.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

 

 

 

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Unable to Share A Document In WhatsApp?

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Hi, Group.

This is the first time when I tried to share a *.pdf document with WhatsApp
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Re: smart 911

2021-09-24 Thread Donna Casteen

Smart 911, www.smart911.com is a service in which a person enters all contact 
information, medical information for all family members that live in the home, 
emergency contact information & any other important information that a person 
thinks is of importance for 911 to have on file in case of an emergency or 
disaster. Having this information on file before an emergency or disaster 
lessens the questions that the 911 operator has to ask before sending help & 
helps the operator to be able to pass along medical information to EMS, Police 
& fire in case the information is not obtainable once on the scene. The 
information aids in faster response time & transport time to a medical facility 
& the person receiving appropriate medical care upon arrival to the hospital.

Donna
What exactly is smart 911 app? That sounds awesome and interesting. Thanks, God 
bless take care.
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>> Not sure where you live, but it seems this is an U.S only app. The website 
>> for more info is smart911.com
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This app sounds very interesting and useful. How can I find out if it works 
>>> in my area.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and the pups
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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone

As others have said, you don’t need the reader.  I am not diabetic, but my 
husband is, and he is totally blind and uses it every day with just the app.  I 
have a feeling that since you activated the sensor with the reader, that you 
may not be able to use this particular sensor with the app, but after this 
14-day sensor is finished, just apply the new sensor and use the app to scan 
it.  Also, as others have said, after you activate it, you will need to wait an 
hour.  The app will notify you when your hour is over and prompt you to scan 
for a reading.  We have never had a reader with my husband’s unit, as I talked 
with a coworker and he told me not to get it, as the app is the most accessible 
way to use the Libre.  We told the doctor that we didn’t want or need the 
reader.  Hope this is helpful.


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
> 
> The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the next sensor 
> with your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but I don’t 
> recall how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve now 
> switched over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Vivian,
>> You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the device 
>> to change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the libre 
>> with my phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the continuous 
>> glucose monitor every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It works real 
>> well, at least it did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do not know 
>> if it is possible to switch your sensor over to the phone from the reader. 
>> Just don’t use the reader again. It was an unnecessary expense that they 
>> should not have sold you.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>>  
>>> I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment 
>>> with the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her 
>>> that it does now that there is an app for the iPhone.
>>>  
>>> She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
>>> installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was 
>>> installed on a different device.  I received an email stating that this 
>>> could be done but have not figured out how to do it yet.
>>>  
>>> I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried 
>>> VD Scanner and it was perfect.
>>>  
>>> I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>>  
>>> Many thanks for assistance.
>>>  
>>> Vivian and Sallie
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Joney Owen

The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the next sensor with 
your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but I don’t recall 
how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve now switched 
over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Vivian,
> You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the device 
> to change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the libre 
> with my phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the continuous 
> glucose monitor every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It works real 
> well, at least it did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do not know if 
> it is possible to switch your sensor over to the phone from the reader. Just 
> don’t use the reader again. It was an unnecessary expense that they should 
> not have sold you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>>  
>> I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
>> the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that 
>> it does now that there is an app for the iPhone.
>>  
>> She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
>> installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was 
>> installed on a different device.  I received an email stating that this 
>> could be done but have not figured out how to do it yet.
>>  
>> I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried 
>> VD Scanner and it was perfect.
>>  
>> I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>  
>> Many thanks for assistance.
>>  
>> Vivian and Sallie
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
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Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

2021-09-24 Thread Joney Owen

Didn’t get to these messages until now. There are other sounds you can get. 
Cat, frog, cricket, a sort of chime which yeah maybe. But the cookies from an 
actual cuckoo bird rather than the normal sound we hear from a cuckoo clock. I 
have it set to go every half hour like the regular clocks do and it has a 
volume switch to set the volume so you can have it turned down or up which ever 
you prefer I had used it for a long time before I started invoice clock.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I didn’t look hard enough.
>  
> I assume you are talking about  Cuckoo, by Toshihiko Tambo
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cuckoo/id414022497
>  
> It has been updated to iOS 15 and has some info about settings on the What’s 
> new version number that says:
> Sep 22, 2021 
> Version 4.0
> Support iOS15 with workaround...
> Please check "Settings" > "Notification" > "Cuckoo", Enable "Notification 
> Center", Disable "Lock Screen" and "Banners".
>  
> It looks like 99¢ gets rid of ads and possibly gives more sound options.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> I found nothing with your spelling.
> Who is the developer?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
> Owen
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> I don’t know if you guys have talked about this program or not. I discovered, 
> when I couldn’t get VoiceClock to behave itself. That cuckoo still works. 
> When I looked at the instructions, it has information for iOS 15. I’m 
> thinking he might’ve been one of the people who ran the program early, and so 
> knew how to set his app to work. It behaves, so at least I have a clock that 
> works. So I do miss VoiceClock. I hope they can get it to behave soon. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Absolutely, others which come to mind are the "Track This" app for package 
> tracking, "List Recorder" and I'm not sure if Digit Eyes is still around and 
> being maintained. Especially the last two were very popular and praised 
> beyond believe when they first came out. Oh, and of course there is Flicktype 
> and whatever it was called before and KNFB Reader is another, still around I 
> think, but other free or much cheaper apps do a better job.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 23, 2021 2:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> I suspect the app developer is out of business, so that is why many are 
> looking for replacement apps.
> Very sad, but that is the life of low-cost and/or free apps sometimes.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> Richard,
> I’m currently having some serious problems with my pc, that is why it took me 
> this long to respond. I forgot to mention I was on iOS 14.8, and I just 
> looked on my XR phone, and I for the first time just seen I have a choice to 
> download iOS 15, in which I never seen this choice before.  If I can’t use 
> the Chime app, I won’t download the iOS 15, so thanks to all who let me know 
> this.  When I open the Chime app under my purchases I see: developer 
> Blacktree, version, 2.00, latest release share acode share any q r code from 
> any apps, I’m not sure what that means though, but it gives me an option to 
> download it, and then  Chime utilities button, age four years old, developer 
> Blacktree, size 10mb, version history 2.0.0 this app has been updated by 
> Apple to use the latest apple certificate, ratings review, meaning I can read 
> the reviews. 
>  
> Janet
>   
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> Are you on iOS 15?
>  
> If so, would you mind looking up the app developer by opening the App Store 
> on your device, double

Re: creating voice dream folders

also, if you don't get them in order, and the files are not named in a way that
would alphabetize nicely; you can set the sort for that folder as manual, and
then move them around in the folder to the order you want.
Easier your way of course if you know when adding them you want a particular
order.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." --
Jane Wagner

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On Sep 24, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Duane Steele wrote:

Thanks Anna. I had some files in Dropbox I wanted to read in order, and your
Idea, coupled with Richard's did the trick. So all is well.

On Sep 24, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Duane,

Find a book you want to put in a folder. Flick down to Move to folder, and
double-tap. If the folder doesn't exist yet, choose Add. Type in a folder name,
and choose OK. The folder is created, and the book is put into it.

If you have that folder open (by choosing filter, then Folder, any books you
add to Voice dream Reader are put in that folder automatically until you choose
a different folder.

HTH,
Anna

On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Duane Steele wrote:

Hello Listers,

Could someone remind me how to create folders in Voice Dream Reader? I have
some stuff in Dropbox I'd like to play/read using Voice dream and want to put
them in separate folder groups. Thanks in advance for allowing this issue to be
discussed again.

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: creating voice dream folders

2021-09-24 Thread Duane Steele

Thanks Anna. I had some files in Dropbox I wanted to read in order, and your 
Idea, coupled with Richard's did the trick. So all is well.


P

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Duane,
> 
> Find a book you want to put in a folder. Flick down to Move to folder, and 
> double-tap. If the folder doesn't exist yet, choose Add. Type in a folder 
> name, and choose OK. The folder is created, and the book is put into it.
> 
> If you have that folder open (by choosing filter, then Folder, any books you 
> add to Voice dream Reader are put in that folder automatically until you 
> choose a different folder.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> Could someone remind me how to create folders in Voice Dream Reader? I have 
>> some stuff in Dropbox I'd like to play/read using Voice dream and want to 
>> put them in separate folder groups. Thanks in advance for allowing this 
>> issue to be discussed again.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Alex Stone

No you don’t need the reader. I had one of these to test for my local hospital, 
and the reader comes with it, but if you’re taking readings with your phone, 
you don’t need it.

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Sep 2021, at 00:13, Andy Baracco  wrote:


As far as I know, if you have the app set up you don't need the reader at all.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

Hi Larry,
Are you sure about needing a reader? I have never had the reader, as I 
understood when these things came out and became accessible through the iPhone, 
but the reader was superfluous. You can activate the sensor without the reader, 
unless they’ve changed something, which is incredibly stupid, since the reader 
is otherwise not accessible at all.
I’m really confused. Because I know back when I used these sensors over the 
course of a year or a year and a half often on, no reader was ever necessary. 
I’ve never even seen it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Larry Wayland  wrote:


You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each new 
sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to wate 
one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on your 
phone.
Larry
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived
I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.
The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.
I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.
I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.
Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.
Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  
wins...@voicedream.com
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived
Hi All,
I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.
She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.
I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.
I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Many thanks for assistance.
Vivian and Sallie
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Re: creating voice dream folders

2021-09-24 Thread Duane Steele

Thanks Richard. I was successful, and have my files in place. I will add one 
thing. When you go into this new folder you have created, and you want to add 
files that will read consecutively, add those files in reverse order. For 
example, if you have six files to put in this folder, put number six in the 
folder first, and then five, etc. etc. All is well. Thanks for refreshing my 
memory. I really love Voice Dream Reader.
 

> 
> On Sep 24, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Adding Folders in Voice Dream Reader
> 
> 1. Double tap on filter, just to the right of the add button.
> 2. Double tap on "by folder."
> 3. Double tap on Add near the upper left.
> You should now be in a New Folder dialog where you can give it a name.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:04 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi Duane,
>> 
>> Find a book you want to put in a folder. Flick down to Move to folder, and 
>> double-tap. If the folder doesn't exist yet, choose Add. Type in a folder 
>> name, and choose OK. The folder is created, and the book is put into it.
>> 
>> If you have that folder open (by choosing filter, then Folder, any books you 
>> add to Voice dream Reader are put in that folder automatically until you 
>> choose a different folder.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Listers,
>>> 
>>> Could someone remind me how to create folders in Voice Dream Reader? I have 
>>> some stuff in Dropbox I'd like to play/read using Voice dream and want to 
>>> put them in separate folder groups. Thanks in advance for allowing this 
>>> issue to be discussed again.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Andy Baracco

As far as I know, if you have the app set up you don't need the reader at all.

Andy

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  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

  Hi Larry,
  Are you sure about needing a reader? I have never had the reader, as I 
understood when these things came out and became accessible through the iPhone, 
but the reader was superfluous. You can activate the sensor without the reader, 
unless they’ve changed something, which is incredibly stupid, since the reader 
is otherwise not accessible at all.
  I’m really confused. Because I know back when I used these sensors over the 
course of a year or a year and a half often on, no reader was ever necessary. 
I’ve never even seen it.

  Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Larry Wayland  wrote:

You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each 
new sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to 
wate one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on 
your phone.

Larry

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.

The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.

I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.

Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.

Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  
wins...@voicedream.com

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Vivian Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

Hi All,

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment 
with the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that 
it does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried 
VD Scanner and it was perfect.

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks for assistance.

Vivian and Sallie

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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Andy Baracco

I am not diabetic, but my wife uses the freestyle.  She can see well enough to 
use the reader, but I have checked her level with her phone, and it worked as 
well.  I wasn't aware that you have to choose between the reader and the app.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

  Hi Vivian,
  You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the device 
to change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the libre with 
my phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the continuous glucose 
monitor every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It works real well, at 
least it did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do not know if it is 
possible to switch your sensor over to the phone from the reader. Just don’t 
use the reader again. It was an unnecessary expense that they should not have 
sold you.

  Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:

Hi All,

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment 
with the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that 
it does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried 
VD Scanner and it was perfect.

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks for assistance.

Vivian and Sallie

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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Andy Baracco

you don't need the reader.  You should be able to scan with your phone.  it 
uses NFC and not bluetooth, so you will need to place the phone next to the 
sensor on your arm.  When you first install or when you change the sensor, you 
will have to wait an hour before you do your first scan.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:59 PM
  Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

  I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.

  The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

  I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.

  I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.

  Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.

  Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  wins...@voicedream.com

  Richard

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

  Hi All,

  I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

  She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

  I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

  I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

  Many thanks for assistance.

  Vivian and Sallie

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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

You do not need the reader.



Richard
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi Larry,
Are you sure about needing a reader? I have never had the reader, as I 
understood when these things came out and became accessible through the iPhone, 
but the reader was superfluous. You can activate the sensor without the reader, 
unless they’ve changed something, which is incredibly stupid, since the reader 
is otherwise not accessible at all.
I’m really confused. Because I know back when I used these sensors over the 
course of a year or a year and a half often on, no reader was ever necessary. 
I’ve never even seen it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Larry Wayland  wrote:


You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each new 
sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to wate 
one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on your 
phone.
Larry



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.
The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.
I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.
Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.
Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  
wins...@voicedream.com





Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

Hi All,

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks for assistance.

Vivian and Sallie




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RE: Weather.

OK, thanks. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

That's it. 
It resets them to their default.

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On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about 
defaults. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of 
them, you will find a restore to defaults. 
HTH,

Richard
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   On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:

   What did you do to restore your commands to default? 

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Behalf Of Richard Turner
   Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: Weather.

   Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it 
isn't something that overly impresses me yet. 
   I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
   Back to the drawing board with those.

   Richard
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with it." -- Jane Wagner 

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  On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  
wrote:

   Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you 
can flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to 
explore, flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in 
that group. when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left 
with two fingers. 

  I hope that helps.

  best,
  Anna

  On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

  Anna, 
  Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group 
navigation in the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group 
navigation style... But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the 
rotor settings for a long time.

  Richard
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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Larry,
Are you sure about needing a reader? I have never had the reader, as I 
understood when these things came out and became accessible through the iPhone, 
but the reader was superfluous. You can activate the sensor without the reader, 
unless they’ve changed something, which is incredibly stupid, since the reader 
is otherwise not accessible at all.
I’m really confused. Because I know back when I used these sensors over the 
course of a year or a year and a half often on, no reader was ever necessary. 
I’ve never even seen it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Larry Wayland  wrote:
> 
> 
> You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each 
> new sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to 
> wate one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on 
> your phone.
> Larry
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived
>  
> I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.
> The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.
>  
> I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.
> I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
> response soon.
> Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.
> Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  wins...@voicedream.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
> Conger
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
> the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
> does now that there is an app for the iPhone.
>  
> She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
> installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was 
> installed on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could 
> be done but have not figured out how to do it yet.
>  
> I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
> Scanner and it was perfect.
>  
> I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>  
> Many thanks for assistance.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
>  
>  
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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Robert stigile

Hello all,
No, you do not need the reader at all.
Leave it in the box and just download and use the app on your iPhone. You can 
get all your readings through the app.
Good luck!

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California
President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Larry Wayland  wrote:
> 
> 
> You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each 
> new sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to 
> wate one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on 
> your phone.
> Larry
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived
>  
> I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.
> The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.
>  
> I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.
> I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
> response soon.
> Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.
> Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  wins...@voicedream.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
> Conger
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
> the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
> does now that there is an app for the iPhone.
>  
> She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
> installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was 
> installed on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could 
> be done but have not figured out how to do it yet.
>  
> I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
> Scanner and it was perfect.
>  
> I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>  
> Many thanks for assistance.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
>  
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RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Smart girl, our Hollie - cancel your account!?! 

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Holly
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Alan:

It has been awhile since I went through the merry-to-round with Verizon 
customer service, but, as I remember, you don’t want to punch any number for 
general info, but choose the option to ‘cancel my account’ and you will be 
connected to a live person.

Once you do get a live rep, they are usually very helpful.

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Re: Weather.

That's it.
It resets them to their default.



Richard
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about defaults.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of them, you 
will find a restore to defaults.
HTH,



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   On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



   What did you do to restore your commands to default?

   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
   Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: Weather.

   Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
something that overly impresses me yet.
   I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
   Back to the drawing board with those.



   Richard
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  On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:



   Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can 
flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to explore, 
flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in that group. 
when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left with two 
fingers.

  I hope that helps.

  best,
  Anna



  On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

  Anna,
  Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group navigation in 
the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group navigation style... 
But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the rotor settings for 
a long time.




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with it." -- Jane Wagner







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  On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:



  Hi,

  You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down 
to move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick 
to a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that 
group.

  Best,
  Anna




  On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net  > wrote:





  Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker.





  -Original Message-


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Star Gazer


  Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM


  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 


  Subject: Re: Weather.





  Yes you have to go line by lne





  Sent from my iPhone

RE: Weather.

My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about defaults. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of them, you 
will find a restore to defaults. 
HTH,

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

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On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What did you do to restore your commands to default? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
something that overly impresses me yet. 
I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
Back to the drawing board with those.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." -- Jane Wagner 

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   On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

    Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you 
can flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to 
explore, flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in 
that group. when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left 
with two fingers. 

   I hope that helps.

   best,
   Anna

   On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

   Anna, 
   Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group 
navigation in the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group 
navigation style... But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the 
rotor settings for a long time.

   Richard
   "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

   website:  
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cdeeddbbc179c420bf2db08d97f8dc26f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637681069104542899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=JilJ5DZBEqOXyX1EGxbqGm6AXTce6%2FDplNIth2KN%2B4Y%3D&reserved=0

   On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

   Hi,

   You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and 
down to move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, 
flick to a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in 
that group.

   Best,
   Anna

   On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net  > wrote:

   Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 

   -Original Message-

   From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]

RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Larry Wayland

You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each new 
sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to wate 
one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on your 
phone.

Larry

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.

The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

 

I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.

I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.

Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.

Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  wins...@voicedream.com 
 

 

 

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Vivian Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

Hi All,

 

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

 

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

 

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

 

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for assistance.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

 

 

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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Vivian,
You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the device to 
change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the libre with my 
phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the continuous glucose monitor 
every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It works real well, at least it 
did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do not know if it is possible to 
switch your sensor over to the phone from the reader. Just don’t use the reader 
again. It was an unnecessary expense that they should not have sold you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
> the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
> does now that there is an app for the iPhone.
>  
> She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
> installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was 
> installed on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could 
> be done but have not figured out how to do it yet.
>  
> I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
> Scanner and it was perfect.
>  
> I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>  
> Many thanks for assistance.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
>  
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RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.
The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

I don't have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.
I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.
Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.
Winston I'm sure would appreciate hearing about that.  
wins...@voicedream.com





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

Hi All,

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn't talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won't scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

I've used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks for assistance.

Vivian and Sallie




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Free Style Libre Arrived

2021-09-24 Thread Vivian Conger

Hi All,

 

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn't talk.  I told her that
it does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

 

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won't scan the sensor as it was
installed on a different device.  I received an email stating that this
could be done but have not figured out how to do it yet.

 

I've used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried
VD Scanner and it was perfect.

 

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for assistance.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

 

 

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RE: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Alan,
Just did a quick search.  I found this:
Do i need a new sim card for 5g Verizon
You don’t need a new sim card for 5g if you’re a Verizon user, your sim card 
should work in a 5G mobile phone except if your sim card is outdated and too 
old.
This was the statement from Verizon when I inquired if a user can use any sim 
card other than the 5g sim card in a 5G mobile phone. However, as long as you 
have a sim card that worked with the 4G LTE network, it should work in a 5G 
phone as well.
Again they stated that if a user’s 4G sim card didn’t work in a 5G phone, then 
the user should head over to any Verizon store and 
get a new 5G sim card for the phone.
From: Do i need a new sim card for 5g (Or probably not) - 
Gadgetroyale

HTH,


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Thanks, Richard. Good luck with your new iPhone. I'm certainly in no hurry to 
order a new iPhone but I'm a big believer in doing the research and knowing the 
answer before getting hit with an unexpected fee. You should not be charged a 
fee to replace one iPhone with another on the same mobile phone plan in my 
opinion.

I'm sure both the SE 2020 and the iPhone 13 use a nano SIM card but I'm a bit 
unclear about how 5G affects the use of older SIM cards.

Alan Lemly


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:19:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Alan,
I'm not with Verizon, but I am pretty sure the SIMS are the same.
I'll know later today, fingers crossed, my new iPhone is supposed to arrive 
today.
Also, I'm going with a friend to the local Verizon corporate store tomorrow to 
help her buy probably a 12 pro. I can ask the Verizon staff person then I'm 
sure.
I know from my working days that if you go to a Verizon store that is a 
"reseller" they will try and ding you for all kinds of stuff.
We took a client to one of those resellers, and they wanted $20 for a sim card.
We then went a bit out of our way to the corporate store, where not only was 
the sim card free; but they took care of the setup with no activation fee.
That was about 3 years ago.
You probably will have to have them activate the new phone or perhaps not 
activate, but associate the sim card with the new phone so they don't think you 
are running an SE 2020 still.
I'll see what I can find out.


Richard
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Jane Wagner





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On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi List,



I’m curious when the last time anyone with a Verizon account was able to talk 
to a live Verizon support person on the phone. They’ve taken this automated 
response thing to a new low in my opinion. I must have tried sending a text 
chat three or four times and I always get some automated response saying my 
message was not understood and in effect directing me to another option to 
submit my question which seems more like a merry go round than any sort of 
support.



I’ll ask my question here. I’m considering purchasing a new iPhone to replace 
my SE 2020 being used on my Verizon Prepaid account. If I’m buying this new 
iPhone directly from Apple, what do I need to do to avoid a Verizon activation 
fee? In the past, I’ve simply moved my SIM card from my old phone to my new 
phone but I’m not sure if this can be done when going from an SE 2020 to an 
iPhone 13.



Thanks in advance for any help.



Alan Lemly
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Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

2021-09-24 Thread Candy Lowe

Alan, actually, I have always had very positive  experiences with Verizon 
customer service.

  In fact, so much so, that I stay with them when I could get a discount from 
AT&T because my husband is a retiree from AT&T. Try the Verizon Disability or 
Accessibility number.  (888) 262-1999 Sent from my iPhone


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:56 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I’m curious when the last time anyone with a Verizon account was able to talk 
> to a live Verizon support person on the phone. They’ve taken this automated 
> response thing to a new low in my opinion. I must have tried sending a text 
> chat three or four times and I always get some automated response saying my 
> message was not understood and in effect directing me to another option to 
> submit my question which seems more like a merry go round than any sort of 
> support.
>  
> I’ll ask my question here. I’m considering purchasing a new iPhone to replace 
> my SE 2020 being used on my Verizon Prepaid account. If I’m buying this new 
> iPhone directly from Apple, what do I need to do to avoid a Verizon 
> activation fee? In the past, I’ve simply moved my SIM card from my old phone 
> to my new phone but I’m not sure if this can be done when going from an SE 
> 2020 to an iPhone 13.
>  
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Thanks, Richard. Good luck with your new iPhone. I'm certainly in no hurry to 
order a new iPhone but I'm a big believer in doing the research and knowing the 
answer before getting hit with an unexpected fee. You should not be charged a 
fee to replace one iPhone with another on the same mobile phone plan in my 
opinion.

I'm sure both the SE 2020 and the iPhone 13 use a nano SIM card but I'm a bit 
unclear about how 5G affects the use of older SIM cards.

Alan Lemly


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:19:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Alan,
I'm not with Verizon, but I am pretty sure the SIMS are the same.
I'll know later today, fingers crossed, my new iPhone is supposed to arrive 
today.
Also, I'm going with a friend to the local Verizon corporate store tomorrow to 
help her buy probably a 12 pro. I can ask the Verizon staff person then I'm 
sure.
I know from my working days that if you go to a Verizon store that is a 
"reseller" they will try and ding you for all kinds of stuff.
We took a client to one of those resellers, and they wanted $20 for a sim card.
We then went a bit out of our way to the corporate store, where not only was 
the sim card free; but they took care of the setup with no activation fee.
That was about 3 years ago.
You probably will have to have them activate the new phone or perhaps not 
activate, but associate the sim card with the new phone so they don't think you 
are running an SE 2020 still.
I'll see what I can find out.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Hi List,



I’m curious when the last time anyone with a Verizon account was able to talk 
to a live Verizon support person on the phone. They’ve taken this automated 
response thing to a new low in my opinion. I must have tried sending a text 
chat three or four times and I always get some automated response saying my 
message was not understood and in effect directing me to another option to 
submit my question which seems more like a merry go round than any sort of 
support.



I’ll ask my question here. I’m considering purchasing a new iPhone to replace 
my SE 2020 being used on my Verizon Prepaid account. If I’m buying this new 
iPhone directly from Apple, what do I need to do to avoid a Verizon activation 
fee? In the past, I’ve simply moved my SIM card from my old phone to my new 
phone but I’m not sure if this can be done when going from an SE 2020 to an 
iPhone 13.



Thanks in advance for any help.



Alan Lemly

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RE: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15?

Well, I cannot duplicate this with  an Orbit Reader 40 on an SE 2020 running 
the release of iOS 15.
And, you cannot send attachments to this list, so your screen recording did not 
come through.




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-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:58 AM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15?

Using iPhone 12 running VoiceOver and public release of iOS 15 and a Brailliant 
Bi 40 X. 
Open Notes app and create new note. 
Type: "they can do this". 
Move the cursor to just in front of word "do". 
Type "really" followed by a space. Then type two random letters and delete 
them. 
Then type "now". 
Examine the sentence to see chaos!
See screen recording. 
Harry

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Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Alan,
I'm not with Verizon, but I am pretty sure the SIMS are the same.
I'll know later today, fingers crossed, my new iPhone is supposed to arrive 
today.
Also, I'm going with a friend to the local Verizon corporate store tomorrow to 
help her buy probably a 12 pro. I can ask the Verizon staff person then I'm 
sure.
I know from my working days that if you go to a Verizon store that is a 
"reseller" they will try and ding you for all kinds of stuff.
We took a client to one of those resellers, and they wanted $20 for a sim card.
We then went a bit out of our way to the corporate store, where not only was 
the sim card free; but they took care of the setup with no activation fee.
That was about 3 years ago.
You probably will have to have them activate the new phone or perhaps not 
activate, but associate the sim card with the new phone so they don't think you 
are running an SE 2020 still.
I'll see what I can find out.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hi List,

I’m curious when the last time anyone with a Verizon account was able to talk 
to a live Verizon support person on the phone. They’ve taken this automated 
response thing to a new low in my opinion. I must have tried sending a text 
chat three or four times and I always get some automated response saying my 
message was not understood and in effect directing me to another option to 
submit my question which seems more like a merry go round than any sort of 
support.

I’ll ask my question here. I’m considering purchasing a new iPhone to replace 
my SE 2020 being used on my Verizon Prepaid account. If I’m buying this new 
iPhone directly from Apple, what do I need to do to avoid a Verizon activation 
fee? In the past, I’ve simply moved my SIM card from my old phone to my new 
phone but I’m not sure if this can be done when going from an SE 2020 to an 
iPhone 13.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Alan Lemly

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Re: Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?

2021-09-24 Thread Jenifer Barr

Thanks Anna! It's appreciated! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennifer,
> 
> I am working on one and will submit it for editing in a week or so. 
> Unfortunately, production takes a while, so it will be a few months after 
> that before it comes out.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> No, he is not Richard. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not as of yet that I have heard about.
>>> I am pretty sure Jonathan isn't doing one though maybe I'm wrong.
>>> 
>>> I suspect anna Dresner might, but it takes time after a release to pull all 
>>> the changes together and having just looked at the added settings in 
>>> VoiceOver, I am very glad I retired from teaching last fall.
>>> Read the Applevis article and that will only scratch the surface of the 
>>> additional settings available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." - Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Jenifer Barr
>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 10:59 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Anna... or anyone... has there been any book specific to voice-over users 
>>> for ios 15?
>>> Thanks. 
>>> 
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Re: creating voice dream folders

Adding Folders in Voice Dream Reader

1. Double tap on filter, just to the right of the add button.
2. Double tap on "by folder."
3. Double tap on Add near the upper left.
You should now be in a New Folder dialog where you can give it a name.
HTH,

Richard
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:04 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Duane,

If you have that folder open (by choosing filter, then Folder, any books you
add to Voice dream Reader are put in that folder automatically until you choose
a different folder.

HTH,
Anna

On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Duane Steele wrote:

Hello Listers,

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

2021-09-24 Thread Holly

Alan:

It has been awhile since I went through the merry-to-round with Verizon 
customer service, but, as I remember, you don’t want to punch any number for 
general info, but choose the option to ‘cancel my account’ and you will be 
connected to a live person.

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Re: Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?

Hi Jennifer,

I am working on one and will submit it for editing in a week or so. 
Unfortunately, production takes a while, so it will be a few months after that 
before it comes out.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> No, he is not Richard. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Not as of yet that I have heard about.
>> I am pretty sure Jonathan isn't doing one though maybe I'm wrong.
>> 
>> I suspect anna Dresner might, but it takes time after a release to pull all 
>> the changes together and having just looked at the added settings in 
>> VoiceOver, I am very glad I retired from teaching last fall.
>> Read the Applevis article and that will only scratch the surface of the 
>> additional settings available.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 10:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Anna... or anyone... has there been any book specific to voice-over users 
>> for ios 15?
>> Thanks. 
>> 
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Re: creating voice dream folders

Hi Duane,

Find a book you want to put in a folder. Flick down to Move to folder, and 
double-tap. If the folder doesn't exist yet, choose Add. Type in a folder name, 
and choose OK. The folder is created, and the book is put into it.

If you have that folder open (by choosing filter, then Folder, any books you 
add to Voice dream Reader are put in that folder automatically until you choose 
a different folder.

HTH,
Anna


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> Could someone remind me how to create folders in Voice Dream Reader? I have 
> some stuff in Dropbox I'd like to play/read using Voice dream and want to put 
> them in separate folder groups. Thanks in advance for allowing this issue to 
> be discussed again.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

2021-09-24 Thread Kim Crawford



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I didn’t look hard enough.
>  
> I assume you are talking about  Cuckoo, by Toshihiko Tambo
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cuckoo/id414022497
>  
> It has been updated to iOS 15 and has some info about settings on the What’s 
> new version number that says:
> Sep 22, 2021 
> Version 4.0
> Support iOS15 with workaround...
> Please check "Settings" > "Notification" > "Cuckoo", Enable "Notification 
> Center", Disable "Lock Screen" and "Banners".
>  
> It looks like 99¢ gets rid of ads and possibly gives more sound options.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> I found nothing with your spelling.
> Who is the developer?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
> Owen
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> I don’t know if you guys have talked about this program or not. I discovered, 
> when I couldn’t get VoiceClock to behave itself. That cuckoo still works. 
> When I looked at the instructions, it has information for iOS 15. I’m 
> thinking he might’ve been one of the people who ran the program early, and so 
> knew how to set his app to work. It behaves, so at least I have a clock that 
> works. So I do miss VoiceClock. I hope they can get it to behave soon. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Absolutely, others which come to mind are the "Track This" app for package 
> tracking, "List Recorder" and I'm not sure if Digit Eyes is still around and 
> being maintained. Especially the last two were very popular and praised 
> beyond believe when they first came out. Oh, and of course there is Flicktype 
> and whatever it was called before and KNFB Reader is another, still around I 
> think, but other free or much cheaper apps do a better job.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 23, 2021 2:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> I suspect the app developer is out of business, so that is why many are 
> looking for replacement apps.
> Very sad, but that is the life of low-cost and/or free apps sometimes.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> Richard,
> I’m currently having some serious problems with my pc, that is why it took me 
> this long to respond. I forgot to mention I was on iOS 14.8, and I just 
> looked on my XR phone, and I for the first time just seen I have a choice to 
> download iOS 15, in which I never seen this choice before.  If I can’t use 
> the Chime app, I won’t download the iOS 15, so thanks to all who let me know 
> this.  When I open the Chime app under my purchases I see: developer 
> Blacktree, version, 2.00, latest release share acode share any q r code from 
> any apps, I’m not sure what that means though, but it gives me an option to 
> download it, and then  Chime utilities button, age four years old, developer 
> Blacktree, size 10mb, version history 2.0.0 this app has been updated by 
> Apple to use the latest apple certificate, ratings review, meaning I can read 
> the reviews. 
>  
> Janet
>   
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> Are you on iOS 15?
>  
> If so, would you mind looking up the app developer by opening the App Store 
> on your device, double tap on my account, purchases, my purchases, and check 
> what it says there?
> Thanks,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS

Question for anyone using Verizon in the States

Hi List,

 

I'm curious when the last time anyone with a Verizon account was able to
talk to a live Verizon support person on the phone. They've taken this
automated response thing to a new low in my opinion. I must have tried
sending a text chat three or four times and I always get some automated
response saying my message was not understood and in effect directing me to
another option to submit my question which seems more like a merry go round
than any sort of support.

 

I'll ask my question here. I'm considering purchasing a new iPhone to
replace my SE 2020 being used on my Verizon Prepaid account. If I'm buying
this new iPhone directly from Apple, what do I need to do to avoid a Verizon
activation fee? In the past, I've simply moved my SIM card from my old phone
to my new phone but I'm not sure if this can be done when going from an SE
2020 to an iPhone 13.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly 

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RE: Turning on spatial audio

2021-09-24 Thread brent

It would be a pretty good ride, as they pair the way that Airpods should pair 
when it comes to getting them set up. I only paid around $85 or so on Mercari, 
so thought it’d be an OK deal. I kept the box, so will have to get someone to 
see if they can see the serial number on there.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning on spatial audio

 

Does the spatial audio work with the first generation airpod pros? 

He could call Apple and find out for sure.

If it should; then clearly he was taken for a ride.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

What was the site and how much did you pay? Always keep in mind that if an 
offer sounds too good it probably is.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
br...@hostany.net  
Sent: September 23, 2021 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

I ended up getting a pair of Airpods Pro a couple months ago online. I bought 
it on one of the second-hand sites, and when I got them, the listing appeared 
to be honest with what I got in that they were completely packaged as well as 
I'd expect Apple to package things. They did say though that they were sitting 
around unused awhile, and, as they got them free or cheap in some promo. 
However, when I connect them, there is no spatial audio, and noise cancellation 
and transparency do absolutely nothing. I think they are just not updated to 
the latest firmware. How can I force them to update? I also can't find the 
serial number in the about settings under general on my phone. I really wanted 
to try spatial audio, and these Airpods Pro just don't seem to do it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

Open settings, Bluetooth, and on your device that supports spatial audio, flick 
up with one finger to more and double tap.
Flick through those options and spatial audio is near the last item.
You also can get a sample there.
Most likely, it will be on by default but I have not tried to turn it off there.

I have company so will give this more attention later.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

   So go to control center and... I'm getting something wrong as I have the 
IOS 15 update and I'm on an Iphone 12 mini.. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kayla King
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Turning on spatial audio

Hi,
If you go to control center and double tap and hold on the volume control, if 
your device support spatial audio, option should be bottom right.

Sent from my iPhone 8+




On Sep 22, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

How do I turn spatial audio? 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I didn’t look hard enough.

I assume you are talking about  Cuckoo, by Toshihiko Tambo
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cuckoo/id414022497

It has been updated to iOS 15 and has some info about settings on the What’s 
new version number that says:
Sep 22, 2021
Version 4.0
Support iOS15 with workaround...
Please check "Settings" > "Notification" > "Cuckoo", Enable "Notification 
Center", Disable "Lock Screen" and "Banners".

It looks like 99¢ gets rid of ads and possibly gives more sound options.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I found nothing with your spelling.
Who is the developer?




Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I don’t know if you guys have talked about this program or not. I discovered, 
when I couldn’t get VoiceClock to behave itself. That cuckoo still works. When 
I looked at the instructions, it has information for iOS 15. I’m thinking he 
might’ve been one of the people who ran the program early, and so knew how to 
set his app to work. It behaves, so at least I have a clock that works. So I do 
miss VoiceClock. I hope they can get it to behave soon.
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Absolutely, others which come to mind are the "Track This" app for package 
tracking, "List Recorder" and I'm not sure if Digit Eyes is still around and 
being maintained. Especially the last two were very popular and praised beyond 
believe when they first came out. Oh, and of course there is Flicktype and 
whatever it was called before and KNFB Reader is another, still around I think, 
but other free or much cheaper apps do a better job.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 23, 2021 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I suspect the app developer is out of business, so that is why many are looking 
for replacement apps.
Very sad, but that is the life of low-cost and/or free apps sometimes.



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Richard,
I’m currently having some serious problems with my pc, that is why it took me 
this long to respond. I forgot to mention I was on iOS 14.8, and I just looked 
on my XR phone, and I for the first time just seen I have a choice to download 
iOS 15, in which I never seen this choice before.  If I can’t use the Chime 
app, I won’t download the iOS 15, so thanks to all who let me know this.  When 
I open the Chime app under my purchases I see: developer Blacktree, version, 
2.00, latest release share acode share any q r code from any apps, I’m not sure 
what that means though, but it gives me an option to download it, and then  
Chime utilities button, age four years old, developer Blacktree, size 10mb, 
version history 2.0.0 this app has been updated by Apple to use the latest 
apple certificate, ratings review, meaning I can read the reviews.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Th

Re: Weather.

Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of them, you 
will find a restore to defaults.
HTH,



Richard
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Jane Wagner





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On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What did you do to restore your commands to default?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
something that overly impresses me yet.
I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
Back to the drawing board with those.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
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   On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:



    Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can flick 
between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to explore, flick 
right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in that group. when 
you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left with two fingers.

   I hope that helps.

   best,
   Anna



   On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

   Anna,
   Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group navigation in 
the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group navigation style... 
But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the rotor settings for 
a long time.




   Richard
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it." -- Jane Wagner







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   On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:



   Hi,

   You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to 
move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to 
a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group.

   Best,
   Anna




   On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:





   Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker.





   -Original Message-


   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Star Gazer


   Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM


   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 


   Subject: Re: Weather.





   Yes you have to go line by lne





   Sent from my iPhone





   On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:





   I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and 
sunset and barometric pressure?





   -Original Message-


   From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Star Gazer


   Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM


   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 



   Subject: RE: Weather.





   It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll 
hour by hour











   From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carolyn


   Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM


   To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Trying to delete photos.

Somehow, I am not able to delete photos. I know I have in
the past. Can someone tell me what to do in iOS 15 to delete
photos, please?

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RE: Weather.

What did you do to restore your commands to default? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
something that overly impresses me yet. 
I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
Back to the drawing board with those.

Richard
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

 Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can 
flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to explore, 
flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in that group. 
when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left with two 
fingers. 

I hope that helps.

best,
Anna

On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Anna, 
Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group 
navigation in the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group 
navigation style... But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the 
rotor settings for a long time.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

website:  www.turner42.com 

On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up 
and down to move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation 
style, flick to a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the 
information in that group.

Best,
Anna

On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net  > wrote:

Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 

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Of Star Gazer

Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Weather.

Yes you have to go line by lne

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net  > wrote:

I found hour by hour, but would that 
give sunrise and sunset and barometric pressure? 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Star Gazer

RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I found nothing with your spelling.
Who is the developer?




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I don’t know if you guys have talked about this program or not. I discovered, 
when I couldn’t get VoiceClock to behave itself. That cuckoo still works. When 
I looked at the instructions, it has information for iOS 15. I’m thinking he 
might’ve been one of the people who ran the program early, and so knew how to 
set his app to work. It behaves, so at least I have a clock that works. So I do 
miss VoiceClock. I hope they can get it to behave soon.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Absolutely, others which come to mind are the "Track This" app for package 
tracking, "List Recorder" and I'm not sure if Digit Eyes is still around and 
being maintained. Especially the last two were very popular and praised beyond 
believe when they first came out. Oh, and of course there is Flicktype and 
whatever it was called before and KNFB Reader is another, still around I think, 
but other free or much cheaper apps do a better job.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 23, 2021 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I suspect the app developer is out of business, so that is why many are looking 
for replacement apps.
Very sad, but that is the life of low-cost and/or free apps sometimes.



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Richard,
I’m currently having some serious problems with my pc, that is why it took me 
this long to respond. I forgot to mention I was on iOS 14.8, and I just looked 
on my XR phone, and I for the first time just seen I have a choice to download 
iOS 15, in which I never seen this choice before.  If I can’t use the Chime 
app, I won’t download the iOS 15, so thanks to all who let me know this.  When 
I open the Chime app under my purchases I see: developer Blacktree, version, 
2.00, latest release share acode share any q r code from any apps, I’m not sure 
what that means though, but it gives me an option to download it, and then  
Chime utilities button, age four years old, developer Blacktree, size 10mb, 
version history 2.0.0 this app has been updated by Apple to use the latest 
apple certificate, ratings review, meaning I can read the reviews.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Are you on iOS 15?

If so, would you mind looking up the app developer by opening the App Store on 
your device, double tap on my account, purchases, my purchases, and check what 
it says there?
Thanks,



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Hi Richard and All,
I’m currently using the Chime app with no problems.  I’ve been using this app 
for several years with no problems

Solved was Switch to default layout large button on right of on screen keyboard?

Hi again list,

 

I decided to call Apple Accessibility and got someone who was very helpful.
He had me go to Settings, General, Keyboards, One-handed keyboard and turn
it off. I guess this got turned on when I upgraded to iOS 14.8 the other
day. I really wish Apple would not automatically change settings when they
include something new like this. Turning it off returned my on screen
keyboard to its former setting.

 

Alan Lemly

 

Hi List,

 

Let me say right from the start that I'm running iOS 14.8 and have not
upgraded to iOS 15. I'm not sure when I first noticed this on screen
keyboard change but since the only thing I've done recently is to upgrade to
iOS 14.8, I assume it is attributable to that.

 

My question concerns a large vertical button now appearing to the right of
my on screen keyboard. It appears to be about as tall as the entire keyboard
and Voiceover reads it as Switch to default layout. Other than the presence
of this large button that was not previously there, my on screen keyboard
seems to have the same keys and layout as before I upgraded to iOS 14.8. Is
anyone familiar with this large button and which default layout it will
switch to if I execute it?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: smart 911

2021-09-24 Thread Irlanda Hernandez

What exactly is smart 911 app? That sounds awesome and interesting. Thanks, God 
bless take care.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:03 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not sure where you live, but it seems this is an U.S only app. The website 
> for more info is smart911.com
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> This app sounds very interesting and useful. How can I find out if it works 
>> in my area.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
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Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

2021-09-24 Thread Joney Owen

I don’t know if you guys have talked about this program or not. I discovered, 
when I couldn’t get VoiceClock to behave itself. That cuckoo still works. When 
I looked at the instructions, it has information for iOS 15. I’m thinking he 
might’ve been one of the people who ran the program early, and so knew how to 
set his app to work. It behaves, so at least I have a clock that works. So I do 
miss VoiceClock. I hope they can get it to behave soon. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Absolutely, others which come to mind are the "Track This" app for package 
> tracking, "List Recorder" and I'm not sure if Digit Eyes is still around and 
> being maintained. Especially the last two were very popular and praised 
> beyond believe when they first came out. Oh, and of course there is Flicktype 
> and whatever it was called before and KNFB Reader is another, still around I 
> think, but other free or much cheaper apps do a better job.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 23, 2021 2:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> I suspect the app developer is out of business, so that is why many are 
> looking for replacement apps.
> Very sad, but that is the life of low-cost and/or free apps sometimes.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> Richard,
> I’m currently having some serious problems with my pc, that is why it took me 
> this long to respond. I forgot to mention I was on iOS 14.8, and I just 
> looked on my XR phone, and I for the first time just seen I have a choice to 
> download iOS 15, in which I never seen this choice before.  If I can’t use 
> the Chime app, I won’t download the iOS 15, so thanks to all who let me know 
> this.  When I open the Chime app under my purchases I see: developer 
> Blacktree, version, 2.00, latest release share acode share any q r code from 
> any apps, I’m not sure what that means though, but it gives me an option to 
> download it, and then  Chime utilities button, age four years old, developer 
> Blacktree, size 10mb, version history 2.0.0 this app has been updated by 
> Apple to use the latest apple certificate, ratings review, meaning I can read 
> the reviews. 
>  
> Janet
>   
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> Are you on iOS 15?
>  
> If so, would you mind looking up the app developer by opening the App Store 
> on your device, double tap on my account, purchases, my purchases, and check 
> what it says there?
> Thanks,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> Hi Richard and All,
> I’m currently using the Chime app with no problems.  I’ve been using this app 
> for several years with no problems, and I love it!   Although, I’m just 
> assuming we are talking about the same app. 
>  
> Janet  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> Actually, the Chime app that some of us are talking about is by Blacktree, 
> and it would seem they are no more.
>  
> I looked up a web site called Blacktree Software, but that isn’t them.
> When I click on app support in the app store, it goes to an unsecure web site 
> in Safari.
> When I go to the web site shown as blacktree.com with Edge, you get the 
> message, cannot reach this page.
>  
> So, I think that app is dead.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15
>  
> The Chime Squirl app which I am pretty sure is what people are talking about 
> is an app I also had downloaded at one point many years ago.
> I

Ear Master and iPhone or iPad??

2021-09-24 Thread portillo.jim

Howdy,

 

Has anyone heard of a program called Ear Master Pro? It is a music program
that has to do with music theory training. There are various classes,
exercises, and workshops within the program that one can do.

I first tried it using my computer with JAWS, and it did not work at all. I
then tried it on my iPad using VoiceOver, and I got much farther into it,
but when it was time to do the lessons or exercises, nothing would happen.
It would just go back to the home screen.

I downloaded the app to the iPhone as well, and got similar results.

The program and app doesn't seem to like screen reading software. However,
before jumping the gun and complaining to the makers of the software, I
thought I'd ask if anyone on the list has used it and if it has worked for
you.

Thanks much.

Jim

 

 

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Re: Switch to default layout large button on right of on screen keyboard?

2021-09-24 Thread Lisa Belville


Hi, Alan.


Just a shot in the dark here, I think it has something to do with how 
the keys are arranged on the soft keyboard.  If you go into settings, 
keyboard, and double tap a button saying "Keyboards" and then a number.  
For me it says "Keyboards, 2" because I have U.S. English and Emoji.



Once you open this, you should see English U.S. by default.  Now double 
tap on the U.S. English and see which options are available.  The 
default is QWERTY.  there are other layouts, though.  Some people find 
it easier to type on them.  I've been with QWERTY since I started typing 
when I was eight.  No way I could switch to something else and I can't 
imagine anyone just doing it on the fly as that button implies.



Like I said, shot in the dark since it seems the option for the numbers, 
symbols, etc. is where it normally is.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/24/2021 11:54 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


Hi List,

Let me say right from the start that I’m running iOS 14.8 and have not 
upgraded to iOS 15. I’m not sure when I first noticed this on screen 
keyboard change but since the only thing I’ve done recently is to 
upgrade to iOS 14.8, I assume it is attributable to that.


My question concerns a large vertical button now appearing to the 
right of my on screen keyboard. It appears to be about as tall as the 
entire keyboard and Voiceover reads it as Switch to default layout. 
Other than the presence of this large button that was not previously 
there, my on screen keyboard seems to have the same keys and layout as 
before I upgraded to iOS 14.8. Is anyone familiar with this large 
button and which default layout it will switch to if I execute it?


Thanks in advance for your help.

Alan Lemly

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Re: Weather.

2021-09-24 Thread Lisa Belville


It can give alerts for just about any weather event you can think of.


I paid $4.99 a few years ago.  They have changed their purchase 
structure, I believe you can download and use it and have some basic 
features without paying.  It now has in-app purchases, but I don't 
believe they are subscription based, I think it's just a one time payment.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/24/2021 9:22 AM, Casey Wollner wrote:


Does weather gods give you weather alerts for storms and tornados and 
does that cost?


If so how much does it cost and is that A one time charge or do you 
have to pay yearly or monthly?


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Lisa Belville

*Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2021 8:48 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel 
*Subject:* Re: Weather.

I've had Dark Sky on my phone for years.  I find that it's not as 
accurate for predicting precipitation in my immediate area.  I've made 
sure the correct location is set, but Weather Gods is more consistent 
and I just like the lay out of Weather gods better.


I'm curious to see what goodies Apple will include for Dark Sky, though.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com 

On 9/23/2021 12:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

And as you may or may not have heard Apple has purchased Dark Sky
which is another popular weather app and there has already been a
certain amount of integration into the stock weather app in iOS
14. I believe the Dark Sky app will still be available until the
end of next year, but at some point it will disappear and Apple
will integrate its best features into their native Weather app.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
  *On
Behalf Of *Lisa Belville
*Sent:* September 23, 2021 10:23 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Weather.

Hi.

I'm not using iOS 15 yet, but I've always found the native weather
app to be a pain.  I use Weather Gods. It's accessible and very
customizable.  There are also sounds for each type of weather
event, even fog.  The sounds can be configured to reflect the
current conditions, such as a slight breeze or a hurricane force
wind.  The sounds are also customizable and can be disabled
easily.  It's also very accurate.  I get notifications twice daily
about sunrise and sunset, as well as a summary of the weather at 6
AM.  The summaries and sun notifications can be set up to notify
you at a time of your choosing. It also has detailed moon phase as
well as moon rise and set info.  Call me a nerd, but I like this.

I believe it is $4.99, but I seem to remember there being a trial
period.  The developer is very receptive to feedback and often
mentions Voice Over improvements in the update summaries.

Lisa

Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com 

On 9/23/2021 11:25 AM, Star Gazer wrote:

It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll
hour by hour

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 *On Behalf Of *Carolyn
*Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Weather.

*I llike the new feature of telling about the rain,
especially, since yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know
how much we had. I asked Siri how much in the past 24 hours,
and she said she could not tell me things from the past,yet
she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died –
you think that is just happening right now? LOL!*

**

*My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and
barometric pressure now. *

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RE: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

Hi Sandy,
I agree, that would be nice.  I know someone who records YouTube videos with a 
cheap version of a GoPro type camera, but it only allows access through that 
camera’s app; nothing else can use the camera.

Apple would have to allow the phone to access alternate cameras just like it 
does now with keyboards.

My wife made me a prototype of an iPhone holder that you wear around your neck 
and have the phone at the breastbone level or so, it was made out of heavy, 
clear vinyl.
That way, it is protected from the rain and could work.  It would just need 
some higher level customization than what she can do to really make it 
perfectly functional.

Such things already exist in one form or another.
NaviLens is definitely getting much more advanced and I’m starting to figure 
out ways to use it in my house for labeling items.

Good luck,



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From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

thanks you two,
I shall contact the various app developers, but thought, just in case, someone 
who may have already done this or at least tried it. some of these cameras 
allow you to stream live, via your phone. so, I am hopeful… I have been trying 
to promote Navilens, here in Ireland. however, for  some people, the sort of 
holding the expensive iPhones out, and available to be pinched, is a 
showstopper. I can see lots of advantages to linking a small wearable camera to 
the phone and the apps on it, so I shall persevere.
Thanks, Sandy PS, we don't have a I RA here in Ireland yet.

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 23 Sep 2021, at 16:31, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Aira supports the use of Google Glasses as long as you are a subscriber. As for 
Seeing AI and Be My Eyes why not write to the developers and ask or suggest 
that they make this possible.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 23, 2021 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

I doubt that unless the app supports the app that comes with the wearable 
camera.
How about getting a holder designed to hold the phone with the camera facing 
out.
Cane Travel/mobility instructors have been using various ones for a long time.
Plus people using AIRA etc.
Some are just a lanyard you wear around your neck that are clear or have a 
cut-out for the camera and you wear them at about your breastbone level.
There are also wearable mounts that are like putting on a harness, that hold 
the phone about a foot out from your chest.
I do not have any particular brand names, but search the web, Amazon, etc., and 
you should find something with the words hands free lanyard, or hands free 
phone mount, ... good luck.


Richard
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Jane Wagner





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On Sep 23, 2021, at 2:31 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi,

  Has anyone done this, using a wearable camera bluetoothed or wified to the 
phone with these apps. I am playing with the NaviLens labelling system, and 
want to use the app without needing to hold my phone in my hand.

   Would love to know if it will work!

   Thanks, Sandy.

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Re: Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?

2021-09-24 Thread Jenifer Barr

No, he is not Richard. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Not as of yet that I have heard about.
> I am pretty sure Jonathan isn't doing one though maybe I'm wrong.
> 
> I suspect anna Dresner might, but it takes time after a release to pull all 
> the changes together and having just looked at the added settings in 
> VoiceOver, I am very glad I retired from teaching last fall.
> Read the Applevis article and that will only scratch the surface of the 
> additional settings available.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
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> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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> 
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> Subject: Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?
> 
> Hi all.
> Anna... or anyone... has there been any book specific to voice-over users for 
> ios 15?
> Thanks. 
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creating voice dream folders

2021-09-24 Thread Duane Steele

Hello Listers,

Could someone remind me how to create folders in Voice Dream Reader? I have 
some stuff in Dropbox I'd like to play/read using Voice dream and want to put 
them in separate folder groups. Thanks in advance for allowing this issue to be 
discussed again.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: need advice

If you are just trying to update iTunes on your computer there is no reason to 
even plug in your iPhone, you either go through Apple software update or 
download the latest version of either the desktop version of the Microsoft 
Store version depends on which one you use) and update it.

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Turner
Sent: September 24, 2021 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: need advice

Unplug your iPhone from the computer, reboot the computer, and try again.

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On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Anthony Borg 
mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?

Not as of yet that I have heard about.
I am pretty sure Jonathan isn't doing one though maybe I'm wrong.

I suspect anna Dresner might, but it takes time after a release to pull all the 
changes together and having just looked at the added settings in VoiceOver, I 
am very glad I retired from teaching last fall.
Read the Applevis article and that will only scratch the surface of the 
additional settings available.




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Subject: Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?

Hi all.
Anna... or anyone... has there been any book specific to voice-over users for 
ios 15?
Thanks. 

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Anything like Jonathan's IOS without the I book for 15?

2021-09-24 Thread Jenifer Barr

Hi all.
Anna... or anyone... has there been any book specific to voice-over users for 
ios 15?
Thanks. 

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Re: need advice

Unplug your iPhone from the computer, reboot the computer, and try again.



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On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:


Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: need advice

I am not sure what the connection is between updating iTunes on your PC and iOS 
15. Yes, you may need the latest update of iTunes if you want to use iOS 15 and 
connect your phone to the PC, this has always been so, everytime a major iOS 
update came out usually you also had to update iTunes. However, the latest 
version of iTunes should be backwards compatible with iOS 14, iOS 13 etc.

What exactly are you doing to update your iTunes on the PC ands what exactly is 
the error message you get?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: September 24, 2021 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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Re: Weather.

Hi,

I don't use Grouped navigation much either. I changed the gestures to interact 
and stop interacting to a four-finger-flick down and up so I could keep using 
the two-finger flicks for Next and Previous Heading, which I find incredibly 
useful.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
> something that overly impresses me yet.
> I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
> Back to the drawing board with those.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can flick 
>> between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to explore, 
>> flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in that 
>> group. when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left with 
>> two fingers.
>> 
>> I hope that helps.
>> 
>> best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anna,
>>> Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group navigation in the 
>>> weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group navigation style... 
>>> But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the rotor settings 
>>> for a long time.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." -- Jane Wagner 
>>>   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> website:  www.turner42.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move 
 through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to 
 a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that 
 group.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
> > wrote:
> 
> Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Star Gazer
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> Yes you have to go line by lne
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and 
>> barometric pressure? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Weather.
>> 
>> It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by 
>> hour 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Weather.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
>> yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked 
>> Siri how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me 
>> things from the past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was 
>> when he died – you think that is just happening right now? LOL!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric 
>> pressure now. 
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RE: need advice

2021-09-24 Thread Anthony Borg

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone. 

I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean. 

Thanks 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

 

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: need advice

 

Hi 

 

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes 
version? 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

 

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Re: Weather.

Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
something that overly impresses me yet.
I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
Back to the drawing board with those.



Richard
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

 Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can flick 
between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to explore, flick 
right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in that group. when 
you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left with two fingers.

I hope that helps.

best,
Anna


On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Anna,
Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group navigation in the 
weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group navigation style... But, 
thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the rotor settings for a 
long time.



Richard
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On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi,

You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move through 
sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a group, and 
flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group.

Best,
Anna


On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker.

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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Yes you have to go line by lne

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric 
pressure?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weather.

It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Weather.



I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since yesterday, 
we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri how much in the 
past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things from the past,yet she 
could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died – you think that is just 
happening right now? LOL!



My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric pressure now.

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Long dead apps that I miss, was about talking clocks

List Recorder, from I think Sixth Sense software, or something like that, died 
when Apple made the change to 64 bit architecture. The developer's husband was 
severly ill and she just did not have the band-wid to do the work.
She offered the source code to anyone who would pick up the project, but there 
were no takers.
It was a brilliant app!
Nothing yet has matched its features with the ease of use.



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Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

2021-09-24 Thread Lisa P. Geibel


Hi Richard and anyone else interested,

The Chime app I have works just fine with IOS15 and if you want to know 
the developer and all that, just let me know and I will get it. Also, 
the Chrono Qoo app announces every n15 minutes just fine. I can not get 
the Voice Clock to work every day. It's beautiful for one day, then I 
have to save the settings the next day to get it to run right, but I'm 
happy with Qoo, so it's not a gig deal. Loving IOS15 around this house 
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On 9/24/2021 1:33 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I agree Sieghard, whole-heartedly.
This topic was covered in a couple of different threads; thread creep 
again; and I know I mentioned the developer in one or other of those 
threads.
Going forward, I will only mention apps with the developer name 
included, and encourage everyone else to do likewise.
The Chime app is a great example because if I search for Chime, I get 
several banking apps ... less than helpful.

Searching for Blacktree gets it right away.
However I have now deleted that one since I'm pretty convinced it 
isn't coming back for iOS 15.




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On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



OK, then people need to be more specific and mention the develop 
especially when there are apps which have names which are more or 
less the same. I mentioned this app because somebody else had said 
something about it not having been updated in 6 years which matches 
what I saw for the Chime Squirl app.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* September 23, 2021 11:44 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Actually, the Chime app that some of us are talking about is by 
Blacktree, and it would seem they are no more.


I looked up a web site called Blacktree Software, but that isn’t them.

When I click on app support in the app store, it goes to an unsecure 
web site in Safari.


When I go to the web site shown as blacktree.com with Edge, you get 
the message, cannot reach this page.


So, I think that app is dead.

Richard

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with it.” – Jane Wagner


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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:08 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

The Chime Squirl app which I am pretty sure is what people are 
talking about is an app I also had downloaded at one point many years 
ago.


I just looked it up in my purchase history and as somebody already 
pointed out the last time it was updated was 6 years ago which means 
it was possibly abandoned by the developer. However, it could also be 
that until now the app simply worked and there was no reason to 
further update it.


The developer's name is Luke Ryan Jernejcic and his website still 
comes up when you click on App Support and according to it he is 
somebody "who lives and works in Austin Texas building useful 
things", at least he was on April 1, 2014 when he last wrote the 
following:


April 01, 2014

Chime Squirrel On iPad

It is my intention to make stable apps that are useful to people. If 
you run into a problem, I would appreciate a quick email from you. 
Just use this form to get a hold of me for support.


Unfortunately the support

RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Absolutely, others which come to mind are the "Track This" app for package 
tracking, "List Recorder" and I'm not sure if Digit Eyes is still around and 
being maintained. Especially the last two were very popular and praised beyond 
believe when they first came out. Oh, and of course there is Flicktype and 
whatever it was called before and KNFB Reader is another, still around I think, 
but other free or much cheaper apps do a better job.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: September 23, 2021 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I suspect the app developer is out of business, so that is why many are looking 
for replacement apps.
Very sad, but that is the life of low-cost and/or free apps sometimes.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Richard,
I’m currently having some serious problems with my pc, that is why it took me 
this long to respond. I forgot to mention I was on iOS 14.8, and I just looked 
on my XR phone, and I for the first time just seen I have a choice to download 
iOS 15, in which I never seen this choice before.  If I can’t use the Chime 
app, I won’t download the iOS 15, so thanks to all who let me know this.  When 
I open the Chime app under my purchases I see: developer Blacktree, version, 
2.00, latest release share acode share any q r code from any apps, I’m not sure 
what that means though, but it gives me an option to download it, and then  
Chime utilities button, age four years old, developer Blacktree, size 10mb, 
version history 2.0.0 this app has been updated by Apple to use the latest 
apple certificate, ratings review, meaning I can read the reviews.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Are you on iOS 15?

If so, would you mind looking up the app developer by opening the App Store on 
your device, double tap on my account, purchases, my purchases, and check what 
it says there?
Thanks,



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Hi Richard and All,
I’m currently using the Chime app with no problems.  I’ve been using this app 
for several years with no problems, and I love it!   Although, I’m just 
assuming we are talking about the same app.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Actually, the Chime app that some of us are talking about is by Blacktree, and 
it would seem they are no more.

I looked up a web site called Blacktree Software, but that isn’t them.
When I click on app support in the app store, it goes to an unsecure web site 
in Safari.
When I go to the web site shown as blacktree.com with Edge, you get the 
message, cannot reach this page.

So, I think that app is dead.





Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: AppleVis What's new in iOS 15 Accessibility for blind and deaf-blind

2021-09-24 Thread literophilus

Thank you very much Richard, the info is really great!

 

Best,

 Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul 
Auster. "City of Glass"

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AppleVis What's new in iOS 15 Accessibility for blind and deaf-blind

 

I just found this article which explains many of the new features, including 
the Group Navigation Style…

 

 

What's New in iOS 15 Accessibility for Blind and DeafBlind Users | AppleVis 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

I agree Sieghard, whole-heartedly.
This topic was covered in a couple of different threads; thread creep again; 
and I know I mentioned the developer in one or other of those threads.
Going forward, I will only mention apps with the developer name included, and 
encourage everyone else to do likewise.
The Chime app is a great example because if I search for Chime, I get several 
banking apps ... less than helpful.
Searching for Blacktree gets it right away.
However I have now deleted that one since I'm pretty convinced it isn't coming 
back for iOS 15.



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On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


OK, then people need to be more specific and mention the develop especially 
when there are apps which have names which are more or less the same. I 
mentioned this app because somebody else had said something about it not having 
been updated in 6 years which matches what I saw for the Chime Squirl app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: September 23, 2021 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Actually, the Chime app that some of us are talking about is by Blacktree, and 
it would seem they are no more.

I looked up a web site called Blacktree Software, but that isn’t them.
When I click on app support in the app store, it goes to an unsecure web site 
in Safari.
When I go to the web site shown as blacktree.com with Edge, you get the 
message, cannot reach this page.

So, I think that app is dead.





Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

The Chime Squirl app which I am pretty sure is what people are talking about is 
an app I also had downloaded at one point many years ago.
I just looked it up in my purchase history and as somebody already pointed out 
the last time it was updated was 6 years ago which means it was possibly 
abandoned by the developer. However, it could also be that until now the app 
simply worked and there was no reason to further update it.
The developer's name is Luke Ryan Jernejcic and his website still comes up when 
you click on App Support and according to it he is somebody "who lives and 
works in Austin Texas building useful things", at least he was on April 1, 2014 
when he last wrote the following:

April 01, 2014
Chime Squirrel On iPad
It is my intention to make stable apps that are useful to people. If you run 
into a problem, I would appreciate a quick email from you. Just use this form 
to get a hold of me for support.

Unfortunately the support form is not a link or maybe not any more, but for all 
you Twitter fans, I am not one of them, he can also be contacted there so maybe 
somebody will and if he gets back you can let the list know what he said..


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dan 
Yates
Sent: September 23, 2021 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Oh man, I had gotten very accustomed to using Chime and it was fantastic. Sure 
hope it can be updated or something else can be recommended by someone on this 
list.
Dan
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
If you want an app that will announce the time at certain intervals then take 
a look at:

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/voice-over-clock/id594106139

You can select the interval in which you want announcement and the voice the 
app uses.  This app works with iOS15 talks when the app is quit from the App 
Switcher and when the device is locked.

If you want the announcement and you have an Apple Watch then turn 
notifications off in the Watch App for VoiceClock

RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Hi Janet,

Not updating to iOS 15 just because of a little hourly chime app of which there 
are many on the app store is not a solution which will work for you in the long 
run.
It seems very unlikely that this particular Chime app will ever be updated 
which means that even if you stay on iOS 14.8 for now there will come a time 
when either you have to get a new phone which of course will come with whatever 
latest version of iOS is out at the time or there will come a time in a few 
years when other apps which are updated on a regular bases may have iOS 15 as a 
minimum requirement.
If such an app is important to you explore other options and find one which has 
not been abandoned, believe me, eventually you have no choice and there are too 
many advantages in iOS 15 to make it worthwhile.
I have basically 0 issues in iOS 15 although it seems others with certain 
devices experience a problem with the Wallet app and I'm not sure if there are 
many braille issues as I am not using braille, but one thing which for me makes 
iOS 15 absolutely worthwhile is the fact that so far I had much better results 
with SIRI. I have not once asked something where SIRI said "Let me check on 
that" or "Just a moment" as was the case in iOS 14 and I assume this is because 
now pretty much all processing of SIRI requests is done on your device if you 
have anything that is not too old. I think it has to be at least an iPhone XR 
or maybe an 11, but it's fantastic.
Also the new image description feature works really well.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: September 23, 2021 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Richard,
I’m currently having some serious problems with my pc, that is why it took me 
this long to respond. I forgot to mention I was on iOS 14.8, and I just looked 
on my XR phone, and I for the first time just seen I have a choice to download 
iOS 15, in which I never seen this choice before.  If I can’t use the Chime 
app, I won’t download the iOS 15, so thanks to all who let me know this.  When 
I open the Chime app under my purchases I see: developer Blacktree, version, 
2.00, latest release share acode share any q r code from any apps, I’m not sure 
what that means though, but it gives me an option to download it, and then  
Chime utilities button, age four years old, developer Blacktree, size 10mb, 
version history 2.0.0 this app has been updated by Apple to use the latest 
apple certificate, ratings review, meaning I can read the reviews.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Are you on iOS 15?

If so, would you mind looking up the app developer by opening the App Store on 
your device, double tap on my account, purchases, my purchases, and check what 
it says there?
Thanks,



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Hi Richard and All,
I’m currently using the Chime app with no problems.  I’ve been using this app 
for several years with no problems, and I love it!   Although, I’m just 
assuming we are talking about the same app.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Actually, the Chime app that some of us are talking about is by Blacktree, and 
it would seem they are no more.

I looked up a web site called Blacktree Software, but that isn’t them.
When I click on app support in the app store, it goes to an unsecure web site 
in Safari.
When I go to the web site shown as blacktree.com with Edge, you get the 
message, cannot reach this page.

So, I think that app is dead.





Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:08 AM
T

Re: Turning on spatial audio

Does the spatial audio work with the first generation airpod pros?
He could call Apple and find out for sure.
If it should; then clearly he was taken for a ride.



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On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

What was the site and how much did you pay? Always keep in mind that if an 
offer sounds too good it probably is.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
br...@hostany.net
Sent: September 23, 2021 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

I ended up getting a pair of Airpods Pro a couple months ago online. I bought 
it on one of the second-hand sites, and when I got them, the listing appeared 
to be honest with what I got in that they were completely packaged as well as 
I'd expect Apple to package things. They did say though that they were sitting 
around unused awhile, and, as they got them free or cheap in some promo. 
However, when I connect them, there is no spatial audio, and noise cancellation 
and transparency do absolutely nothing. I think they are just not updated to 
the latest firmware. How can I force them to update? I also can't find the 
serial number in the about settings under general on my phone. I really wanted 
to try spatial audio, and these Airpods Pro just don't seem to do it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

Open settings, Bluetooth, and on your device that supports spatial audio, flick 
up with one finger to more and double tap.
Flick through those options and spatial audio is near the last item.
You also can get a sample there.
Most likely, it will be on by default but I have not tried to turn it off there.

I have company so will give this more attention later.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

   So go to control center and... I'm getting something wrong as I have the 
IOS 15 update and I'm on an Iphone 12 mini..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kayla 
King
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning on spatial audio

Hi,
If you go to control center and double tap and hold on the volume control, if 
your device support spatial audio, option should be bottom right.

Sent from my iPhone 8+

On Sep 22, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:

How do I turn spatial audio?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

OK, then people need to be more specific and mention the develop especially 
when there are apps which have names which are more or less the same. I 
mentioned this app because somebody else had said something about it not having 
been updated in 6 years which matches what I saw for the Chime Squirl app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: September 23, 2021 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Actually, the Chime app that some of us are talking about is by Blacktree, and 
it would seem they are no more.

I looked up a web site called Blacktree Software, but that isn’t them.
When I click on app support in the app store, it goes to an unsecure web site 
in Safari.
When I go to the web site shown as blacktree.com with Edge, you get the 
message, cannot reach this page.

So, I think that app is dead.

Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

The Chime Squirl app which I am pretty sure is what people are talking about is 
an app I also had downloaded at one point many years ago.
I just looked it up in my purchase history and as somebody already pointed out 
the last time it was updated was 6 years ago which means it was possibly 
abandoned by the developer. However, it could also be that until now the app 
simply worked and there was no reason to further update it.
The developer's name is Luke Ryan Jernejcic and his website still comes up when 
you click on App Support and according to it he is somebody "who lives and 
works in Austin Texas building useful things", at least he was on April 1, 2014 
when he last wrote the following:

April 01, 2014
Chime Squirrel On iPad
It is my intention to make stable apps that are useful to people. If you run 
into a problem, I would appreciate a quick email from you. Just use this form 
to get a hold of me for support.

Unfortunately the support form is not a link or maybe not any more, but for all 
you Twitter fans, I am not one of them, he can also be contacted there so maybe 
somebody will and if he gets back you can let the list know what he said..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dan 
Yates
Sent: September 23, 2021 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Oh man, I had gotten very accustomed to using Chime and it was fantastic. Sure 
hope it can be updated or something else can be recommended by someone on this 
list.
Dan
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 22, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
If you want an app that will announce the time at certain intervals then take 
a look at:

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/voice-over-clock/id594106139

You can select the interval in which you want announcement and the voice the 
app uses.  This app works with iOS15 talks when the app is quit from the App 
Switcher and when the device is locked.

If you want the announcement and you have an Apple Watch then turn 
notifications off in the Watch App for VoiceClock.
Malcolm Parfitt

On 22 Sep 2021, at 16:07, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I suspect if whatever app one tries, if it isn’t updated for iOS 15, it 
probably won’t work.

I’ll do some playing around.

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looks like some talking clocks no longer work in iOS 15

Richard, I couldn’t find a way either.

RE: need advice

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: seeking charger for SE2020

Just look for "wireless iPhone chargers" on Amazon or you can buy a number of 
brand name options via the Apple Store or go to Best Buy, they all work, but if 
you want whatever fast charging is available then make sure the specs mention 
that the charger supports Apple's 7.5 Watt standard which I think is all the 
iPhone SE 2020 supports.

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Sent: September 23, 2021 3:08 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: seeking charger for SE2020

Hi,

For some reason, my husband's SE2020 will not charge correctly using the cable. 
The connection between the cable and phone feels mushy to me, and it simply 
doesn't stay tight. He could take it in, and maybe at some point he will, but 
Apple Care is no longer available for him on that phone, so I'm looking for 
another charging option.

We have tried other cables, and have the same problem.

I'm thinking the next option is wireless charging, so can people suggest 
wireless chargers that will work with the SE2020?

Thanks.

Vicki

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Is it no longer possible to delete individual messages on Skype?

2021-09-24 Thread Kathy Brandt

I remember doing it before, but now I couldn’t. When I looked it up on the web, 
it said to hold the message, find delete, and confirm that you want to remove, 
but that doesn’t work, no option for delete appears. I could only delete the 
whole history. Does anyone know a way I haven’t thought of? Thanks.

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RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

Why are you so sure the iPhone 14 won't have under-glass Touch Id or 
incorporate a Touch Id side button??

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: September 23, 2021 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

Links worked fine. My comment was for those holding their breath for the iPhone 
14. Their beloved fingerprint reader will not be happening.
For those of us who crave small phones, jump on the iPhone 13 before it goes 
away.  It’s double the storage of last year’s 12 for the same price.

Kelly


On 9/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Kelly,
> Are you sending this to show that the links broke up on you?
> The links worked fine for me in Outlook on my computer.
> Are you set to read HTML eemails?
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> - Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>
> On 9/23/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Forget Apple's iPhone 13, this is the smartphone to 
>> buy> w
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>>
>> And if you really need a new phone now, here is another thing to 
>> consider if you are trying to decide between an iPhone 12 and 13:
>>
>> iPhone 13 battery life tests show huge improvements over iPhone 
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RE: Turning on spatial audio

What was the site and how much did you pay? Always keep in mind that if an 
offer sounds too good it probably is.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
br...@hostany.net
Sent: September 23, 2021 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

I ended up getting a pair of Airpods Pro a couple months ago online. I bought 
it on one of the second-hand sites, and when I got them, the listing appeared 
to be honest with what I got in that they were completely packaged as well as 
I'd expect Apple to package things. They did say though that they were sitting 
around unused awhile, and, as they got them free or cheap in some promo. 
However, when I connect them, there is no spatial audio, and noise cancellation 
and transparency do absolutely nothing. I think they are just not updated to 
the latest firmware. How can I force them to update? I also can't find the 
serial number in the about settings under general on my phone. I really wanted 
to try spatial audio, and these Airpods Pro just don't seem to do it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

Open settings, Bluetooth, and on your device that supports spatial audio, flick 
up with one finger to more and double tap.
Flick through those options and spatial audio is near the last item.
You also can get a sample there.
Most likely, it will be on by default but I have not tried to turn it off there.

I have company so will give this more attention later.

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

So go to control center and... I'm getting something wrong as I 
have the IOS 15 update and I'm on an Iphone 12 mini.. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kayla 
King
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning on spatial audio

Hi,
If you go to control center and double tap and hold on the volume control, if 
your device support spatial audio, option should be bottom right.

Sent from my iPhone 8+

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> How do I turn spatial audio? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Turning on spatial audio

They may be a pair of counter fit ones, basically cheap knock-offs which are 
made to look like Airpods Pro but are in fact not.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
br...@hostany.net
Sent: September 23, 2021 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

I ended up getting a pair of Airpods Pro a couple months ago online. I bought 
it on one of the second-hand sites, and when I got them, the listing appeared 
to be honest with what I got in that they were completely packaged as well as 
I'd expect Apple to package things. They did say though that they were sitting 
around unused awhile, and, as they got them free or cheap in some promo. 
However, when I connect them, there is no spatial audio, and noise cancellation 
and transparency do absolutely nothing. I think they are just not updated to 
the latest firmware. How can I force them to update? I also can't find the 
serial number in the about settings under general on my phone. I really wanted 
to try spatial audio, and these Airpods Pro just don't seem to do it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

Open settings, Bluetooth, and on your device that supports spatial audio, flick 
up with one finger to more and double tap.
Flick through those options and spatial audio is near the last item.
You also can get a sample there.
Most likely, it will be on by default but I have not tried to turn it off there.

I have company so will give this more attention later.

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Turning on spatial audio

So go to control center and... I'm getting something wrong as I 
have the IOS 15 update and I'm on an Iphone 12 mini.. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kayla 
King
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Turning on spatial audio

Hi,
If you go to control center and double tap and hold on the volume control, if 
your device support spatial audio, option should be bottom right.

Sent from my iPhone 8+

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
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> How do I turn spatial audio? 
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Switch to default layout large button on right of on screen keyboard?

Hi List,

 

Let me say right from the start that I'm running iOS 14.8 and have not
upgraded to iOS 15. I'm not sure when I first noticed this on screen
keyboard change but since the only thing I've done recently is to upgrade to
iOS 14.8, I assume it is attributable to that.

 

My question concerns a large vertical button now appearing to the right of
my on screen keyboard. It appears to be about as tall as the entire keyboard
and Voiceover reads it as Switch to default layout. Other than the presence
of this large button that was not previously there, my on screen keyboard
seems to have the same keys and layout as before I upgraded to iOS 14.8. Is
anyone familiar with this large button and which default layout it will
switch to if I execute it?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Weather.

Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can flick 
between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to explore, flick 
right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in that group. when 
you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left with two fingers.

I hope that helps.

best,
Anna

> On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Anna,
> Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group navigation in the 
> weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group navigation style... But, 
> thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the rotor settings for a 
> long time.
>  
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move 
>> through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a 
>> group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Star Gazer
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>>> 
>>> Yes you have to go line by lne
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

 I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and 
 barometric pressure? 

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Star Gazer
 Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Weather.

 It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour 

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Carolyn
 Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Weather.

 I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
 yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri 
 how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things 
 from the past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he 
 died – you think that is just happening right now? LOL!

 My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric 
 pressure now. 

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RE: Weather.

2021-09-24 Thread Casey Wollner

Does weather gods give you weather alerts for storms and tornados and does that 
cost?
If so how much does it cost and is that A one time charge or do you have to pay 
yearly or monthly?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel 
Subject: Re: Weather.

I've had Dark Sky on my phone for years.  I find that it's not as accurate for 
predicting precipitation in my immediate area.  I've made sure the correct 
location is set, but Weather Gods is more consistent and I just like the lay 
out of Weather gods better.  

I'm curious to see what goodies Apple will include for Dark Sky, though.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com  
On 9/23/2021 12:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And as you may or may not have heard Apple has purchased Dark Sky which is 
another popular weather app and there has already been a certain amount of 
integration into the stock weather app in iOS 14. I believe the Dark Sky app 
will still be available until the end of next year, but at some point it will 
disappear and Apple will integrate its best features into their native Weather 
app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: September 23, 2021 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Weather.

Hi.

I'm not using iOS 15 yet, but I've always found the native weather app to be a 
pain.  I use Weather Gods.  It's accessible and very customizable.  There are 
also sounds for each type of weather event, even fog.  The sounds can be 
configured to reflect the current conditions, such as a slight breeze or a 
hurricane force wind.  The sounds are also customizable and can be disabled 
easily.  It's also very accurate.  I get notifications twice daily about 
sunrise and sunset, as well as a summary of the weather at 6 AM.  The summaries 
and sun notifications can be set up to notify you at a time of your choosing. 
It also has detailed moon phase as well as moon rise and set info.  Call me a 
nerd, but I like this.

I believe it is $4.99, but I seem to remember there being a trial period.  The 
developer is very receptive to feedback and often mentions Voice Over 
improvements in the update summaries.

Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com  
On 9/23/2021 11:25 AM, Star Gazer wrote:
It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Weather.

I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since yesterday, 
we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri how much in the 
past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things from the past,yet she 
could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died – you think that is just 
happening right now? LOL!

My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric pressure 
now. 
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RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

I also just posted what AppleVis says about it.
I need to go and redefine my custom gestures since it uses my gestures for copy 
and paste … I wish they had checked with me first, 😊.

I’m not sure it will be worth it, but maybe so.  Time will tell.



Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

Here’s what the online iPhone user guide has to say:

Use flat or grouped navigation

Go to Settings 
[https://help.apple.com/assets/608C3E19B44E7E1FB5650766/608C3E1BB44E7E1FB5650790/en_US/492fec5aff74dbdef9b526177c3804b4.png]
  > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Navigation Style, then choose one of the 
following:

·Flat: VoiceOver moves sequentially through each item on the screen 
when you use the move next and previous commands.

·Grouped: VoiceOver moves through items and groups of items on the 
screen. To move into a group, use a two-finger swipe right. To move out of a 
group, use a two-finger swipe left.


I’m none the wiser not having played around with this feature yet.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 24 Sep 2021, at 15:10, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
There is an option in the VoiceOver Rotor settings to add Navigation Style to 
the Rotor.
Once there, when you turn the Rotor to Navigation style, you have two options; 
flat, or grouped.
So far, I am clueless what it should do.
If Apple actually made a reasonably accessible user guide, it would be easier.
I searched for Navigation style in the iPhone User Guide in Apple's Books app, 
found it, but then trying to read it with VoiceOver proved crazy making with 
the focus jumping.
I need to sit down with my braille display and go through it but have not had 
time.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you find it 
in Settings or in an open app?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the point 
where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find it, and 
for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of us?

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Weather.

Hi,

You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move through 
sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a group, and 
flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

Yes you have to go line by lne

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric 
pressure?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weather.

It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Weather.



I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since yesterday, 
we had a whole lo

RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

>From AppleVis.com:
Grouped Navigation
Grouped Navigation is another new VoiceOver feature in iOS 15; the purpose of 
this new navigation style is to group certain types of similar screen items 
together so that your interaction can be more manageable with that group. For 
example, in the Mail app, the messages list when in an email account is its own 
group. However, it's important to note that Grouped Navigation is a 
work-in-progress, as indicated by struggles I have had with this feature. With 
Mail, for example, having Grouped Navigation enabled allows you to swipe past 
the "Dictate" button, but will not continue onto the group of messages. 
Instead, you must hit the touchscreen, and when you do, it will automatically 
start interacting. You can also move by container to get into the group, but 
that seems like more trouble than it's worth. The intent is to make this 
feature work like it does on the Mac, as evidenced by the 2-finger swipe right 
to begin interacting, and 2-finger swipe left to stop interacting with a group. 
On a keyboard, VO modifier with Shift Down Arrow will enter a grouping, while 
VO modifier with Shift Up Arrow will stop interaction. There appears to not be 
a braille display keyboard equivalent for these actions. At the moment, I am 
not finding Grouped Navigation to be a feature I will be using. If you find it 
of use, you can add it to the VoiceOver rotor to toggle off and on, as well as 
toggle it in Quick Settings or by going to Settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver 
> Navigation Style.



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

There is an option in the VoiceOver Rotor settings to add Navigation Style to 
the Rotor.
Once there, when you turn the Rotor to Navigation style, you have two options; 
flat, or grouped.
So far, I am clueless what it should do.
If Apple actually made a reasonably accessible user guide, it would be easier.
I searched for Navigation style in the iPhone User Guide in Apple's Books app, 
found it, but then trying to read it with VoiceOver proved crazy making with 
the focus jumping.
I need to sit down with my braille display and go through it but have not had 
time.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd45e92ec5d2645a12b3208d97f64fdc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637680894009873290%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=w2QsFUasv4rf1gZV%2Bk18t7P%2FiBBQbjP3NuLJAL3x6nA%3D&reserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you find it 
in Settings or in an open app? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the point 
where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find it, and 
for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of us?

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Weather.

Hi,

You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move through 
sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a group, and 
flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> Yes you have to go line by lne
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric 
>> pressure? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegr

Re: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

2021-09-24 Thread Malcolm Parfitt

Here’s what the online iPhone user guide has to say:

Use flat or grouped navigation
Go to Settings  > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Navigation Style, then choose one 
of the following:
Flat: VoiceOver moves sequentially through each item on the screen when you use 
the move next and previous commands.
Grouped: VoiceOver moves through items and groups of items on the screen. To 
move into a group, use a two-finger swipe right. To move out of a group, use a 
two-finger swipe left.


I’m none the wiser not having played around with this feature yet.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 24 Sep 2021, at 15:10, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> There is an option in the VoiceOver Rotor settings to add Navigation Style 
> to the Rotor.
> Once there, when you turn the Rotor to Navigation style, you have two 
> options; flat, or grouped.
> So far, I am clueless what it should do.
> If Apple actually made a reasonably accessible user guide, it would be easier.
> I searched for Navigation style in the iPhone User Guide in Apple's Books 
> app, found it, but then trying to read it with VoiceOver proved crazy making 
> with the focus jumping.
> I need to sit down with my braille display and go through it but have not had 
> time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]
> 
> I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you find 
> it in Settings or in an open app? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]
> 
> I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the point 
> where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find it, and 
> for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of us?
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move 
> through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a 
> group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> 
>> Yes you have to go line by lne
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and 
>>> barometric pressure? 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Star Gazer
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Weather.
>>> 
>>> It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Carolyn
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Weather.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
>>> yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri 
>>> how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things 
>>> from the past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he 
>>> died – you think that is just happening right now? LOL!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric pressure 
>>> now. 
>>> 
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AppleVis What's new in iOS 15 Accessibility for blind and deaf-blind

I just found this article which explains many of the new features, including 
the Group Navigation Style...


What's New in iOS 15 Accessibility for Blind and DeafBlind Users | 
AppleVis




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RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

There is an option in the VoiceOver Rotor settings to add Navigation Style to 
the Rotor.
Once there, when you turn the Rotor to Navigation style, you have two options; 
flat, or grouped.
So far, I am clueless what it should do.
If Apple actually made a reasonably accessible user guide, it would be easier.
I searched for Navigation style in the iPhone User Guide in Apple's Books app, 
found it, but then trying to read it with VoiceOver proved crazy making with 
the focus jumping.
I need to sit down with my braille display and go through it but have not had 
time.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you find it 
in Settings or in an open app? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."]

I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the point 
where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find it, and 
for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of us?

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Weather.

Hi,

You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move through 
sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a group, and 
flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> Yes you have to go line by lne
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric 
>> pressure? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Weather.
>> 
>> It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Weather.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
>> yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked Siri 
>> how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me things 
>> from the past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died 
>> – you think that is just happening right now? LOL!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric pressure 
>> now. 
>> 
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Re: Weather.

2021-09-24 Thread Lisa Belville

I've had Dark Sky on my phone for years. I find that it's not as
accurate for predicting precipitation in my immediate area. I've made
sure the correct location is set, but Weather Gods is more consistent
and I just like the lay out of Weather gods better.

I'm curious to see what goodies Apple will include for Dark Sky, though.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/23/2021 12:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

And as you may or may not have heard Apple has purchased Dark Sky
which is another popular weather app and there has already been a
certain amount of integration into the stock weather app in iOS 14. I
believe the Dark Sky app will still be available until the end of next
year, but at some point it will disappear and Apple will integrate its
best features into their native Weather app.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf
Of *Lisa Belville

*Sent:* September 23, 2021 10:23 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Weather.

Hi.

I'm not using iOS 15 yet, but I've always found the native weather app
to be a pain. I use Weather Gods. It's accessible and very
customizable. There are also sounds for each type of weather event,
even fog. The sounds can be configured to reflect the current
conditions, such as a slight breeze or a hurricane force wind. The
sounds are also customizable and can be disabled easily. It's also
very accurate. I get notifications twice daily about sunrise and
sunset, as well as a summary of the weather at 6 AM. The summaries
and sun notifications can be set up to notify you at a time of your
choosing. It also has detailed moon phase as well as moon rise and set
info. Call me a nerd, but I like this.

I believe it is $4.99, but I seem to remember there being a trial
period. The developer is very receptive to feedback and often
mentions Voice Over improvements in the update summaries.

Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/23/2021 11:25 AM, Star Gazer wrote:

It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour
by hour

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*On
Behalf Of *Carolyn
*Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Weather.

*I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially,
since yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had.
I asked Siri how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could
not tell me things from the past,yet she could tell me how old
Abraham Lincoln was when he died – you think that is just
happening right now? LOL!*

*My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and
barometric pressure now. *

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