RE: Apple Event next Monday the 18th

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Could also refer to anything wireless as in your are unleashed from wires.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 12, 2021 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Event next Monday the 18th

The title didn’t copy in my original note.
It is Graphic Unleashed.”

So, probably about new Mac computers at least.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Event next Monday the 18th

This is all that was in the announcement.

Apple Event
Watch the event on 10/18October 18th at 10 a.m. PDTPacific Daylight Time.
View online at apple.com or on the Apple TV app.





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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is a typical Davy message 😂



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Sent: October 12, 2021 1:04 PM
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As far as I know no bugs are being solved for voiceover even not in the current 
beta.

Davy



-Oorspronkelijk bericht-

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com

Verzonden: maandag 11 oktober 2021 21:58

Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com

Onderwerp: RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out



The wallet crashing bug is still here.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon

Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out



You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.

These versions fix things and close security gaps.



On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:

> Hi! Gordon, and List:

>

> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
> my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
> in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
> least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
> least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
> list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
> people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I 
> don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

>

> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.

> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.

> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:08, Gordon 
>> mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote:

>>

>> It says bug fixes and important security updates.

>>

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sending email with Siri

[Dennis Long]

I just did two test emails with Siri.  It works great.  One side note if the
email address isn't in your contacts it might have trouble getting it.  So I
would make sure the email address is in your contacts.

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Re: Text editing with braille displays

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I saw this issue in the betas. Originally it happened everywhere, but it 
happened less and less as the betas went along; it didn't happen in Notes, 
Mail, or Messages by the time of release. What app are you using? I would 
suggest for now writing your text in Notes and then pasting it into the 
problematic app.

Good luck,
Anna

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Which display and where are you getting the repeated letter exactly.  Onboard 
> editing, or when connected to a computer?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
> Patete
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Text editing with braille displays
> 
> Sorry I believe I sent my last reply to the wrong address by mistake.
> I have turned off automatic translation but still hhaving this repeating 
> letter problem. It seems to not be happening in Mail though - I've tried 
> twice to create examples of the issue here but it refuses to do it for me.
> Perhaps it's a problem with this display.
> Renee 
>> 3/10/2021, at 08:30, Renee Patete  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using the Unified English Braille code, the standard code in my country 
>> since 2004. I also have automatic translation on. However, it isn't 
>> expanding to its print equivalent, but just repeating letters from the other 
>> words. I'll try turning it off anyway.
>> Renee
>>> On 13/10/2021, at 08:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We need to know a few things to help.
>>> 
>>> One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you 
>>> are using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted 
>>> or contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
>>> If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
>>> difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
>>> everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a 
>>> t.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." - Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2ec2a82a59ac4b1bb45508d98db87760%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637696645688672518%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ewB5huAVX3%2FeEmquBjMUOEDKJ22X%2BVAH2Bx%2BwwjN6VI%3D&reserved=0
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>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Renee Patete
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Text editing with braille displays
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display 
>>> and my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and 
>>> go back to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my 
>>> phone and braille display will often add additional repeated letters and 
>>> sometimes continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been 
>>> experiencing this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I 
>>> know, editing without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not 
>>> experiencing this.
>>> Thank you in advance for your advice.
>>> Renee
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RE: Apple Event next Monday the 18th

[Richard Turner]

The title didn't copy in my original note.
It is Graphic Unleashed."

So, probably about new Mac computers at least.



Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Event next Monday the 18th

This is all that was in the announcement.

Apple Event
Watch the event on 10/18October 18th at 10 a.m. PDTPacific Daylight Time.
View online at apple.com or on the Apple TV app.





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Siri and Emails

[Richard Turner]

I just received the below message from Apple Accessibility:
Hello Richard,

We wanted to follow up to let you know that you are once again able to ask Siri 
to write, send, and check unread emails. Reinstating Siri actions to check call 
history and voicemail will take a bit more time, and we will bring back this 
functionality in an upcoming iOS software update.

Sincerely,

Apple Accessibility





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Hint for playing latest version of seven little words

[Sherrie Gosling]

At first I was a bit frustrated trying to play the latest version of seven 
little words. I practically had to pound on the screen to make it register 
which tile I wanted.  I wrote about this problem to the company and got a reply 
back that said they were working on it but it seemed the first tap highlighted 
the tile and messed up the double tapso I started trying a single finger triple 
tap and it works great!  When in the clues section the triple tap still changes 
from Characters two words when using the two finger swipe rightbut just about 
every other place a triple tap with regular amount of pressure does the trick.
I also discovered that if you wait for the word button to be spoken and then 
immediately double tap it works some of the time. But the triple tap is much 
more dependable.
I do love being able to swipe from section to section.
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Apple Event next Monday the 18th

[Richard Turner]

This is all that was in the announcement.

Apple Event
Watch the event on 10/18October 18th at 10 a.m. PDTPacific Daylight Time.
View online at apple.com or on the Apple TV app.





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RE: hey siri

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi folks,

I have 15.0.2 and I just asked siri how far dallas was 

She said she didn't know how far by car,
But as the crow flies,

It's about 12728 Km

I guess flyings a better option as driving might get wet and I'm not sure where 
the closest gas station is after north cape,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hey siri

Paula, try asking something you don't need to know, like how far is it to 
Dallas, then asking what you really want to know. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: hey siri

Hey Siri seemed to work on 15.01, but not on 15.2.

Interesting.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: Caller ID.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Carolyn,

How do you mean

If you get a call,

You could always flick across to see the callers name on the screen by  
highlighting it,

That’s probably the best / simplist way to find the names.


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Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2021 6:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Caller ID.

Is it possible to get the phone to announce the caller twice on an 11? Thanks.
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Re: New hand gestures on Apple watch

[Jenifer Barr]

Thank you Richard. 
I am running watch OS 8 and IOS 15 but can't get these to work. Will have to 
keep playing with that. Thank you for the explanation! 
Jen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I can't understand this message, so let me just provide some more 
> information.
> 
> It seems that I need to toggle on hand gestures in the VoiceOver settings on 
> my Apple Watch. You might need to do this through the Watch app on your 
> iPhone. That might have been what got it working for me. Note I have an Apple 
> Watch SE. You also need to be running WatchOS 8 and IOS 15.
> 
> Now after you wake up your Apple Watch, say by pressing the crown, you can 
> enable hand gestures with a double clench. This means make a fist twice 
> quickly with the same hand your watch is on. Once it's enabled you can move 
> from item to item with the pinch and double pinch gestures. This is the same 
> as swiping on the face of your watch, but you're not touching your watch and 
> your using the fingers on the same hand your watch is on. So for example, if 
> I pinch my pointer and thumb together, I'll hear Mindfulness and with another 
> pinch I'll hear Workout and then the time. These are the objects on my watch 
> face. A double pinch will move me back an item, so say from the time to 
> Workout and then to Mindfulness. To activate the item I just heard VoiceOver 
> announce, I just need to do a clench, that means make a fist with the hand my 
> watch is on. This way I can work with my watch without having to touch the 
> screen.
> 
> I hope that helps explains things a bit.
> 
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch
> 
> Sorry but I'm missing something ere,
> 
> You ae tese gestures atiated and you an use your and to enable different 
> tings on your wat?
> 
> Tat is something I missed alogn te way,
> 
> I 'll ae to ek tis out.
> Please keep us more informed wit tis one.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2021 11:54 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch
> 
> I am running Watch OS 8. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Hand 
> Gestures, I have them toggled on. Under Settings -> Accessibility -> 
> Assistive Touch (which is in the Motor section) the option to toggle this on 
> is greyed out.
> 
> I'm not sure what I just did, but they just started working with the above 
> settings. Using the defaults, when the watch face is active, I can enable 
> hand gestures with a double clench. A clench is making a fist, so if I do 
> this twice then hand gestures are enabled. To move from item to the next 
> item, I can perform a pinch gesture by just touching my pointer finger to my 
> thumb. A double pinch moves backwards. A clench performs a double tap on 
> whatever has focus and the double clench simulates a press of the crown. I'm 
> still playing with it, and I haven't determined how useful they are yet, but 
> I'm intrigued.
> 
> You can learn more by going to 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.igeeksblog.com%2Fhow-to-use-assistivetouch-on-apple-watch%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C44eb193841ef4b37811408d98d0b8b60%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637695902985387895%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=zF1%2F0K%2F%2FQBojhTNBO%2BkpZJYFipGKMPTnxVG6u0njDYs%3D&reserved=0
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New hand gestures on Apple watch
> 
> I believe that in order to use the new gestures, you have to enable Assistive 
> Touch in WatchOS 8. If you have not updated your watch to version 8 of the 
> operating system, then these new gestures will not work.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 10/10/21, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> I'm also curious if anyone has had any success with these gestures.
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ian Harrison
>> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 7:50 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>> ;
>> 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: New hand gestures on Apple watch
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I thought I would try these out. I turned them on in the watch app, 
>> but the watch is not responding to the clenches or pinches. I've 
>> restarted my watch.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Ian
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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Jennie Facer]

I know this cannot be discussed much here, but yes, indeed, Apple is fixing 
bugs in the latest update. 15.1 will be much better.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:06 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I hope that all these bugs you all mention are all reported update after 
> update to Apple Accessibility!
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Maria Campbell
> Verzonden: dinsdag 12 oktober 2021 1:12
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out
> 
> The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
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> --Edmund Burke
> 
>> On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The wallet crashing bug is still here.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out
>> 
>> You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
>> These versions fix things and close security gaps.
>> 
>>> On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
>>> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>>> 
>>> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it 
>>> in my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. 
>>> I’m wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. 
>>> So far in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. 
>>> Or at least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make 
>>> sure or at least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some 
>>> people on the list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it 
>>> seems for many people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to 
>>> be sure that I don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
>>> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
>>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:08, Gordon  wrote:
 
 It says bug fixes and important security updates.
 
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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[davycuppens]

I hope that all these bugs you all mention are all reported update after update 
to Apple Accessibility!

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Maria Campbell
Verzonden: dinsdag 12 oktober 2021 1:12
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.


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On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> The wallet crashing bug is still here.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out
>
> You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
> These versions fix things and close security gaps.
>
> On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
>> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>>
>> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it 
>> in my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
>> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So 
>> far in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or 
>> at least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure 
>> or at least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people 
>> on the list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems 
>> for many people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure 
>> that I don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
>> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:08, Gordon  wrote:
>>>
>>> It says bug fixes and important security updates.
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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[davycuppens]

As far as I know no bugs are being solved for voiceover even not in the current 
beta.
Davy 

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Onderwerp: RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The wallet crashing bug is still here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this. 
These versions fix things and close security gaps.

On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>
> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
> my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
> in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
> least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
> least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
> list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
> people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I 
> don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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RE: Text editing with braille displays

[Richard Turner]

Which display and where are you getting the repeated letter exactly.  Onboard 
editing, or when connected to a computer?




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
Patete
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text editing with braille displays

Sorry I believe I sent my last reply to the wrong address by mistake.
I have turned off automatic translation but still hhaving this repeating letter 
problem. It seems to not be happening in Mail though - I've tried twice to 
create examples of the issue here but it refuses to do it for me.
Perhaps it's a problem with this display.
Renee 
> 3/10/2021, at 08:30, Renee Patete  wrote:
> 
> I'm using the Unified English Braille code, the standard code in my country 
> since 2004. I also have automatic translation on. However, it isn't expanding 
> to its print equivalent, but just repeating letters from the other words. 
> I'll try turning it off anyway.
> Renee
>> On 13/10/2021, at 08:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> We need to know a few things to help.
>> 
>> One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you 
>> are using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted or 
>> contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
>> If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
>> difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
>> everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a 
>> t.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: 
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>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
>> Patete
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Text editing with braille displays
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display 
>> and my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go 
>> back to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone 
>> and braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
>> continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
>> this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
>> without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing 
>> this.
>> Thank you in advance for your advice.
>> Renee
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Re: Text editing with braille displays

[Renee Patete]

Sorry I believe I sent my last reply to the wrong address by mistake.
I have turned off automatic translation but still hhaving this repeating letter 
problem. It seems to not be happening in Mail though - I've tried twice to 
create examples of the issue here but it refuses to do it for me.
Perhaps it's a problem with this display.
Renee 
> 3/10/2021, at 08:30, Renee Patete  wrote:
> 
> I'm using the Unified English Braille code, the standard code in my country 
> since 2004. I also have automatic translation on. However, it isn't expanding 
> to its print equivalent, but just repeating letters from the other words. 
> I'll try turning it off anyway.
> Renee
>> On 13/10/2021, at 08:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> We need to know a few things to help.
>> 
>> One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you 
>> are using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted or 
>> contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
>> If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
>> difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
>> everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a 
>> t.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
>> Patete
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Text editing with braille displays
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display 
>> and my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go 
>> back to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone 
>> and braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
>> continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
>> this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
>> without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing 
>> this.
>> Thank you in advance for your advice.
>> Renee
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Re: Text editing with braille displays

[Renee Patete]

I'm using the Unified English Braille code, the standard code in my country 
since 2004. I also have automatic translation on. However, it isn't expanding 
to its print equivalent, but just repeating letters from the other words. I'll 
try turning it off anyway.
Renee
> On 13/10/2021, at 08:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> We need to know a few things to help.
> 
> One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you 
> are using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted or 
> contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
> If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
> difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
> everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a t.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
> Patete
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Text editing with braille displays
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display and 
> my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go back 
> to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone and 
> braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
> continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
> this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
> without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing 
> this.
> Thank you in advance for your advice.
> Renee
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RE: Text editing with braille displays

[Richard Turner]

We need to know a few things to help.

One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you are 
using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted or 
contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a t.





Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
Patete
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text editing with braille displays

Hi everyone,
I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display and 
my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go back 
to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone and 
braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing this.
Thank you in advance for your advice.
Renee

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RE: Caller ID.

[Carolyn]

Probably that would work, Richard, thanks. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Caller ID.

I’ve never seen a setting like that.

 

What happens if you flick up with two fingers after the first caller ID to read 
the entire screen.

 

 

 

 

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Is it possible to get the phone to announce the caller twice on an 11? Thanks. 

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Text editing with braille displays

[Renee Patete]

Hi everyone,
I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display and 
my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go back 
to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone and 
braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
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Thank you in advance for your advice.
Renee

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RE: Caller ID.

[Richard Turner]

I've never seen a setting like that.

What happens if you flick up with two fingers after the first caller ID to read 
the entire screen.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
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Is it possible to get the phone to announce the caller twice on an 11? Thanks.
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Caller ID.

[Carolyn]

Is it possible to get the phone to announce the caller twice
on an 11? Thanks. 

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RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Carolyn]

Light touch must be right. I never had the first problem after Rita Howell's 
tutorial on how to use the 10 and up screens. 

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Penny Reeder
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:40 AM
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Yes, i see what you mean. It takes practice, but it’s still tricky! I think the 
most important requirement is an extremely light touch!Do you think Control 
Panel could be somehow added to the list of Quick Keys? That would be 
convenient. Thanks 


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 12, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

Slowly is not required, once you get the hang of it you can do it very 
fast, almost more like a flick down as long as you start after touching the 
status bar and hear the little sound. you can do it 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Penny Reeder
Sent: October 12, 2021 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

 

Try sliding down slowly with one finger, starting close to the lefthand 
edge, from the top. As you slide down, you will hear a faint blip. Pick up your 
finger, and Control Center shkuld open. Hope this helps, Penny

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 11, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
 wrote:

 

Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down 
until you feel the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit 
more to the second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home 
screen

 

Hi Paula,

 

Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the 
screen upwards you need to touch the Status bar. 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  
"Close Enough!"
 

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From: Paula Jordan   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM

Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

 

I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control 
center on my home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the 
spotlight and to the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am 
I missing? Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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How to use Quick Settings in iOS 15 to simplify the Rotor

[Richard Turner]

Thomas Domville did a very nice podcast on Applevis.com about the Quick 
Settings feature now in iOS 15.
I recommend taking the time to listen to it.
https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/how-configure-and-use-voiceover-quick-settings-ios

HTH,





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RE: hey siri

[Carolyn]

Paula, try asking something you don't need to know, like how far is it to 
Dallas, then asking what you really want to know. 

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Subject: hey siri

Hey Siri seemed to work on 15.01, but not on 15.2.

Interesting.

God bless!

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RE: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Carolyn]

You know what else about Hay Siri, Siri won't answer the question asked a 
second time. I said, Hay Siri, what's my battery level and got no answer; no 
answer second time either. So, then later on I said, Hay Siri, what's the 
temperature; no answer. Then I asked, Hay Siri, what's my battery level, and 
Siri said 86%.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:12 PM
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Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.


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On 10/11/2021 3:58 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> The wallet crashing bug is still here.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
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> Subject: Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out
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> You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
> These versions fix things and close security gaps.
>
> On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
>> Hi! Gordon, and List:
>>
>> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it 
>> in my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
>> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So 
>> far in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or 
>> at least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure 
>> or at least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people 
>> on the list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems 
>> for many people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure 
>> that I don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
>> Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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>>> It says bug fixes and important security updates.
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RE: Voice Clock won't start at my appointed start time.

[dm-hill]

Hi Robin,

 

It does do the quarter hours. The only way I accidentally got it to work is 
that on the setting screen I turned the announce of the quarter hours on and 
off a couple of times. When you hear it chime, you know it is on. That is if it 
is on, it will chime right away. 

 

By the way, I also turned on the clock display. The chiming started working 
after that, but I an not sure if it was turning the display of the clock on or 
the repeated turning the chime on and off.

 

Good Luck!

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Clock won't start at my appointed start time.

 

Hey Richard and others,

How on earth do you get big Ben to work? I bought it, installed it set its 
notifications as it asked and nothing doing here. I miss having my quarter 
hours chimed if it does that. As I said here it's doing a bunch of nothing 
making me kind of sorry I bought it.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/4/2021 10:23 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I think it needs to be either running all the time in the app switcher, or 
something.  I gave up on it and am hoping something else comes along.

 

I like Big Ben, but it does kind of take over your world when it is gonging the 
hours as they get larger and larger.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Voice Clock won't start at my appointed start time.

 

Hi.

 

I’m trying to get Voice Clock to work with no stop time. What I mean is I have 
it start at midnight, and it stops at 11:59 p.m., essentially going 24 hours a 
day. When it’s working, it works great. Problem is it stops at the indicated 
time, but it doesn’t start back up. The only way I can get it working is to 
open the app, and it works again until the next night.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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Re: Voice Clock won't start at my appointed start time.

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hey Richard and others,
How on earth do you get big Ben to work? I bought it, installed
  it set its notifications as it asked and nothing doing here. I
  miss having my quarter hours chimed if it does that. As I said
  here it's doing a bunch of nothing making me kind of sorry I
  bought it.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/4/2021 10:23 AM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
I think it needs to be either running all
the time in the app switcher, or something.  I gave up on it
and am hoping something else comes along.
 
I like Big Ben, but it does kind of take
over your world when it is gonging the hours as they get
larger and larger.
 
 

   
   
  Richard
  “Reality is the leading cause of stress
  for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
   
  My Web site:
  https://www.turner42.com
   

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
  Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 7:17 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Voice Clock won't start at my appointed
  start time.
  

 
Hi.
 
I’m trying to get Voice Clock to work with
  no stop time. What I mean is I have it start at midnight, and
  it stops at 11:59 p.m., essentially going 24 hours a day. When
  it’s working, it works great. Problem is it stops at the
  indicated time, but it doesn’t start back up. The only way I
  can get it working is to open the app, and it works again
  until the next night.
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
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Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[l . d . ethier23]

You can also use the same gesture as before.

Lyne

> Le 12 oct. 2021 à 10:37, Sieghard Weitzel  a écrit :
> 
> 
> If you slide down until you feel the first vibration (you also hear a little 
> sound) and then lift your finger that is control center.
> If you want notification center then you slide past the first vibration/sound 
> until you get to the second and lift your finger.
> It is identical to when you swipe up from the bottom where the first 
> vibration/ sound takes you to the home screen when you are in an app and the 
> second one brings up the app switcher except that you start from the status 
> bar and not from the bottom. But everybody has to learn how to do the swipe 
> from the bottom for Home and App Switcher so you might as well get used to it 
> for Control and Notification Center instead of using the old method which I 
> find takes longer because you still have to touch the status bar and then you 
> have to do a second 3-finger swipe up from the bottom or down from the top 
> whereas using the other way it's basically all one gesture, you touch the 
> status bar and immediately swipe down.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: October 11, 2021 9:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> You said to let go after the first haptic feedback, then to slide down 
> farther to get to the notification center.  I thought you were just supposed 
> to slide down until you got to the second feedback without picking your 
> finger up.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
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> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 10:22 PM
> Subject: RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you feel 
> the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to the 
> second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> Hi Paula,
>  
> Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen 
> upwards you need to touch the Status bar. 
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Paula Jordan
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
> Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
> home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
> the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
> Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Penny,

You could set up the back tap or another gesture to bring up control center as 
you can now customize gestures and taps in Voiceover Settings.
I would furthermore argue there is no need for any additional implementation of 
how you can get to control and notification center because the gestures are 
exactly the reverse of the gestures used for Hone and the App Switcher and from 
what I hear very few people who switch from phones with a home button to one 
without complain about these gestures after they get used to them. .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: October 12, 2021 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

Yes, i see what you mean. It takes practice, but it’s still tricky! I think the 
most important requirement is an extremely light touch!Do you think Control 
Panel could be somehow added to the list of Quick Keys? That would be 
convenient. Thanks
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 12, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Slowly is not required, once you get the hang of it you can do it very fast, 
almost more like a flick down as long as you start after touching the status 
bar and hear the little sound. you can do it

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: October 12, 2021 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

Try sliding down slowly with one finger, starting close to the lefthand edge, 
from the top. As you slide down, you will hear a faint blip. Pick up your 
finger, and Control Center shkuld open. Hope this helps, Penny
Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 11, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you feel 
the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to the 
second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

Hi Paula,

Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards 
you need to touch the Status bar.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

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From: Paula Jordan
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Penny Reeder]

Yes, i see what you mean. It takes practice, but it’s still tricky! I think the 
most important requirement is an extremely light touch!Do you think Control 
Panel could be somehow added to the list of Quick Keys? That would be 
convenient. Thanks 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Slowly is not required, once you get the hang of it you can do it very fast, 
> almost more like a flick down as long as you start after touching the status 
> bar and hear the little sound. you can do it
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
> Reeder
> Sent: October 12, 2021 5:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> Try sliding down slowly with one finger, starting close to the lefthand edge, 
> from the top. As you slide down, you will hear a faint blip. Pick up your 
> finger, and Control Center shkuld open. Hope this helps, Penny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you feel 
> the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to the 
> second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> Hi Paula,
>  
> Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen 
> upwards you need to touch the Status bar. 
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Paula Jordan
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
> Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
> home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
> the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
> Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you slide down until you feel the first vibration (you also hear a little 
sound) and then lift your finger that is control center.
If you want notification center then you slide past the first vibration/sound 
until you get to the second and lift your finger.
It is identical to when you swipe up from the bottom where the first vibration/ 
sound takes you to the home screen when you are in an app and the second one 
brings up the app switcher except that you start from the status bar and not 
from the bottom. But everybody has to learn how to do the swipe from the bottom 
for Home and App Switcher so you might as well get used to it for Control and 
Notification Center instead of using the old method which I find takes longer 
because you still have to touch the status bar and then you have to do a second 
3-finger swipe up from the bottom or down from the top whereas using the other 
way it's basically all one gesture, you touch the status bar and immediately 
swipe down.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: October 11, 2021 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

You said to let go after the first haptic feedback, then to slide down farther 
to get to the notification center.  I thought you were just supposed to slide 
down until you got to the second feedback without picking your finger up.

Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you feel 
the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to the 
second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

Hi Paula,

Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards 
you need to touch the Status bar.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message -
From: Paula Jordan
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Slowly is not required, once you get the hang of it you can do it very fast, 
almost more like a flick down as long as you start after touching the status 
bar and hear the little sound. you can do it

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: October 12, 2021 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

Try sliding down slowly with one finger, starting close to the lefthand edge, 
from the top. As you slide down, you will hear a faint blip. Pick up your 
finger, and Control Center shkuld open. Hope this helps, Penny
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 11, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you feel 
the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to the 
second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

Hi Paula,

Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards 
you need to touch the Status bar.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message -
From: Paula Jordan
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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Word game puzzle between 2 users?

[Steve Spamer]

Hi.

 

A year or so ago, I came back to IOS and the iPhone after owning an Android
device for about 4 years, prior to that I had an iPhone 4. I remember having
a word puzzle game that 2 users could play, but I can't remember it's name.

 

Basically, you were given a number of letters to create a word with and you
got a score depending on the strength of that word, the winner was the
person with the best score of course.

 

So, does anyone know what that game was from the description or does anyone
know of an accessible  game that allows 2 people to play with words, similar
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Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Penny Reeder]

Try sliding down slowly with one finger, starting close to the lefthand edge, 
from the top. As you slide down, you will hear a faint blip. Pick up your 
finger, and Control Center shkuld open. Hope this helps, Penny

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you feel 
> the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to the 
> second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> Hi Paula,
>  
> Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen 
> upwards you need to touch the Status bar. 
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Paula Jordan
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
> Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
> home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
> the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
> Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

[Jennie Facer]

This has happened to me, but it has been fixed and it will be coming out soon. 

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:01 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> It crashes as soon as you hit the more cards button.
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> Hi, if you swipe it crashes for me. Try feeling around the screen and double 
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> On 12 Oct 2021, at 00:43, Richard Turner  wrote:
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>  I do not use the Wallet; but for those who do; to help others duplicate the 
> issue, it would help if you said which phone you are using.
> It would appear some issues in iOS 15 happen on some phones/iPads but not on 
> others running iOS 15...
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> 
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> Wallet still crashes when choosing card.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> The hey siri still doesn't work on the locked screen.
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> The wallet crashing bug is still here.
>  
> -Original Message-
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> You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this.
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> On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:
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>  
> I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
> my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
> wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
> in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
> least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
> least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
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> people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I 
> don’t have any irritations or problems with this update as well.
>  
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Re: Considering the new Apple Watch

[Jennie Facer]

I have a series 6, and I am not having any difficulties with it at all. I love 
it paired tomy Braille display as well. 

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 3:58 AM, Renee Patete  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I haven't been told of any specific issues, just something about the screen 
> reader itself (not the voices) being "broken". I think this may have been in 
> relation to series 6, so I'd just like to see if blind users are still using 
> the Apple Watch with the screen reader running in the present day, to confirm 
> that it will be OK.
> I have also heard that there are new hand gestures with the watch in OS 8. Do 
> these work OK with the voice running?
> 
> Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that the watch was being released on 15 
> October all over the world. I live in the Southern Hemisphere so  thought 
> that people in the US and elsewhere might have been able to get it first. My 
> apologies for the misunderstanding.
> 
> Renee 
> 
>> On 12/10/2021, at 21:54, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Renee,
>> 
>> I'm awaiting my new one to arrive in the next few weeks.
>> 
>> As for it's synthasizer 
>> It should be the same as you get on the watch OS 8 as the watch series 7 
>> will use that OS out of the box.
>> 
>> Other than that,
>> What types of issues are you being in formed of?
>> 
>> As the watch has not yet been released to market,
>> And wont be until the 15th October which is this coming Friday.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
>> Patete
>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2021 6:41 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Considering the new Apple Watch
>> 
>> Hi readers,
>> I am a new member here, so I hope this email goes to the right place.
>> The Apple Watch series 7 arrives in my country this week, and I am 
>> considering getting one to replace my now broken series 4. However, I have 
>> heard somewhere that the screen reader may no longer be very good on the new 
>> watches. Can anyone who has had experience with the new one please let me 
>> know whether it is still as accessible as it used to be? I have no remaining 
>> vision, so need a completely reliable screen reader.
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Renee 
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Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

[Jennie Facer]

Go to settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, typing and you will find it there. 
You can choose between caps lock and control plus option keys. Hope this helps.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 5:29 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you, that’s helpful.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 4:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> I know on the iPhone you have to go in to voice over settings and designate 
> the caps lock as the VO key in order for this to work.
>  
>  
> Chris Judge
> 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
> Hill
> Sent: October 12, 2021 5:02 AM
> To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> Well, I'm not sure with a iPhone keyboard, but on the Macintosh, you can just 
> hold down the caps lock key and press the key you want to use, just like 
> holding the "control-option" key combination for the Voiceover keys.
>  
> If I'm wrong, I apologize for passing incorrect info.
>  
> Bob Hill
>  
>  
> 
> On Oct 11, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>  
> How would I change the caps lock to be my vo key?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robert 
> Hill
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:07 AM
> To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> With VoiceOver, on a regular keyboard you can also use CAPSlock as the VO 
> key, don't know if the keyboard you're talking about has caps lock, but it 
> might be worth a try.
>  
> Bob Hill
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
>  
> I’m not familiar with this keyboard, but you want to hold down the control 
> and options keys in conjunction with other keys. The control+options keys 
> held down together is called the VO key. You can also turn on quick 
> navigation by holding down the left and right arrow keys at the same time. 
> This will let you do a lot without having to use the VO key. Richard’s web 
> page has a lot of good resources. It’s at Richard Turner's Home Page 
> (turner42.com)
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Johna 
> Gravitt
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> Hello,
> Just wondering if anyone on this list has used or uses a pluggable foldable 
> Bluetooth keyboard with their iPhone?
> I can’t seem to remember what the keyboard commands is to use VO commands.  
> Right now when my phone is connected, I can swipe to things on my phone but I 
> cannot activate anything with double tap gestures using the keyboard.  I can 
> type into search fields and if I use the up and down arrows I can activate 
> the context menus but can’t activate anything.  I’ve actually even tried 
> using space bar and the enter key as I would on a laptop keyboard but if 
> memory serves there are actual keyboard commands to evoke VO functions when 
> using a blue tooth keyboard.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Johna
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Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen

[Donna Casteen]

Kay,

To open the control center, touch the status bar, then using three fingers 
swipe up from the bottom of the screen. To open notifications, touch the status 
bar and swipe down using three fingers.

Donna


> 
> 
> You said to let go after the first haptic feedback, then to slide down 
> farther to get to the notification center.  I thought you were just supposed 
> to slide down until you got to the second feedback without picking your 
> finger up.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
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> Bob Proctor
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 10:22 PM
> Subject: RE: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
> 
> Much easier to touch the status bar and drag your finger down until you feel 
> the first haptic feedback and then let go, drag it down a bit more to the 
> second time it vibrates and you have notification centre.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: October 11, 2021 6:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> Hi Paula,
>  
> Remember before doing the 3 finger swipe from the bottom of the screen 
> upwards you need to touch the Status bar. 
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Paula Jordan
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 6:18 PM
> Subject: gesture to get to the control center on the home screen
>  
> I keep trying to slide up with 3 fingers to get to the control center on my 
> home screen, but it doesn’t seem to work.  I can get to the spotlight and to 
> the notifications center, but not the control center.  What am I missing? 
> Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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RE: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

[Johna Gravitt]

Thank you, that’s helpful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

I know on the iPhone you have to go in to voice over settings and designate the 
caps lock as the VO key in order for this to work.


Chris Judge
[JAWS Certified, 2021]

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Hill
Sent: October 12, 2021 5:02 AM
To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

Well, I'm not sure with a iPhone keyboard, but on the Macintosh, you can just 
hold down the caps lock key and press the key you want to use, just like 
holding the "control-option" key combination for the Voiceover keys.

If I'm wrong, I apologize for passing incorrect info.

Bob Hill


On Oct 11, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Johna Gravitt 
mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com>> wrote:

How would I change the caps lock to be my vo key?


From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Robert Hill
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:07 AM
To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

Hi all,

With VoiceOver, on a regular keyboard you can also use CAPSlock as the VO key, 
don't know if the keyboard you're talking about has caps lock, but it might be 
worth a try.

Bob Hill



On Oct 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I’m not familiar with this keyboard, but you want to hold down the control and 
options keys in conjunction with other keys. The control+options keys held down 
together is called the VO key. You can also turn on quick navigation by holding 
down the left and right arrow keys at the same time. This will let you do a lot 
without having to use the VO key. Richard’s web page has a lot of good 
resources. It’s at Richard Turner's Home Page 
(turner42.com)

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Johna Gravitt
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

Hello,
Just wondering if anyone on this list has used or uses a pluggable foldable 
Bluetooth keyboard with their iPhone?
I can’t seem to remember what the keyboard commands is to use VO commands.  
Right now when my phone is connected, I can swipe to things on my phone but I 
cannot activate anything with double tap gestures using the keyboard.  I can 
type into search fields and if I use the up and down arrows I can activate the 
context menus but can’t activate anything.  I’ve actually even tried using 
space bar and the enter key as I would on a laptop keyboard but if memory 
serves there are actual keyboard commands to evoke VO functions when using a 
blue tooth keyboard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Johna

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Re: Considering the new Apple Watch

[Renee Patete]

Hi,
I haven't been told of any specific issues, just something about the screen 
reader itself (not the voices) being "broken". I think this may have been in 
relation to series 6, so I'd just like to see if blind users are still using 
the Apple Watch with the screen reader running in the present day, to confirm 
that it will be OK.
I have also heard that there are new hand gestures with the watch in OS 8. Do 
these work OK with the voice running?

Sorry everyone, I didn't realise that the watch was being released on 15 
October all over the world. I live in the Southern Hemisphere so  thought that 
people in the US and elsewhere might have been able to get it first. My 
apologies for the misunderstanding.

Renee 

> On 12/10/2021, at 21:54, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Renee,
> 
> I'm awaiting my new one to arrive in the next few weeks.
> 
> As for it's synthasizer 
> It should be the same as you get on the watch OS 8 as the watch series 7 will 
> use that OS out of the box.
> 
> Other than that,
> What types of issues are you being in formed of?
> 
> As the watch has not yet been released to market,
> And wont be until the 15th October which is this coming Friday.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
> Patete
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2021 6:41 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Considering the new Apple Watch
> 
> Hi readers,
> I am a new member here, so I hope this email goes to the right place.
> The Apple Watch series 7 arrives in my country this week, and I am 
> considering getting one to replace my now broken series 4. However, I have 
> heard somewhere that the screen reader may no longer be very good on the new 
> watches. Can anyone who has had experience with the new one please let me 
> know whether it is still as accessible as it used to be? I have no remaining 
> vision, so need a completely reliable screen reader.
> Thank you in advance,
> Renee 
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RE: Considering the new Apple Watch

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Renee,

I'm awaiting my new one to arrive in the next few weeks.

As for it's synthasizer 
It should be the same as you get on the watch OS 8 as the watch series 7 will 
use that OS out of the box.

Other than that,
What types of issues are you being in formed of?

As the watch has not yet been released to market,
And wont be until the 15th October which is this coming Friday.

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Patete
Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2021 6:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Considering the new Apple Watch

Hi readers,
I am a new member here, so I hope this email goes to the right place.
The Apple Watch series 7 arrives in my country this week, and I am considering 
getting one to replace my now broken series 4. However, I have heard somewhere 
that the screen reader may no longer be very good on the new watches. Can 
anyone who has had experience with the new one please let me know whether it is 
still as accessible as it used to be? I have no remaining vision, so need a 
completely reliable screen reader.
Thank you in advance,
Renee 

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RE: anyone know where I could get some ringtones of dec-talk synthe?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Waw,

That's going back a few years now.

What about contacting the company that they were made by,

Whom I can't remember the name of now.


But didn't they use a voice similar to that of eloquence 

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Subject: anyone know where I could get some ringtones of dec-talk synthe?

Hi to all.  Does anyone know where I can find some ringtones of dectalk 
synthesyzer.  I found some clips on an ftp site I use sometimes, but most of 
the clips are to large to work as ringtones.
Thanks for any help.

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RE: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

[chrisjudge1967]

I know on the iPhone you have to go in to voice over settings and designate the 
caps lock as the VO key in order for this to work.

 

 

Chris Judge

  

 

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Hill
Sent: October 12, 2021 5:02 AM
To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

 

Well, I'm not sure with a iPhone keyboard, but on the Macintosh, you can just 
hold down the caps lock key and press the key you want to use, just like 
holding the "control-option" key combination for the Voiceover keys.

 

If I'm wrong, I apologize for passing incorrect info.

 

Bob Hill

 





On Oct 11, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Johna Gravitt mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com> > wrote:

 

How would I change the caps lock to be my vo key?

 

 

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 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robert 
Hill
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:07 AM
To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <  
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Subject: Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

 

Hi all,

 

With VoiceOver, on a regular keyboard you can also use CAPSlock as the VO key, 
don't know if the keyboard you're talking about has caps lock, but it might be 
worth a try.

 

Bob Hill

 






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 chalt...@outlook.com> wrote:

 

I’m not familiar with this keyboard, but you want to hold down the control and 
options keys in conjunction with other keys. The control+options keys held down 
together is called the VO key. You can also turn on quick navigation by holding 
down the left and right arrow keys at the same time. This will let you do a lot 
without having to use the VO key. Richard’s web page has a lot of good 
resources. It’s at   Richard Turner's Home Page 
(turner42.com)

 

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Subject: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

 

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone on this list has used or uses a pluggable foldable 
Bluetooth keyboard with their iPhone?

I can’t seem to remember what the keyboard commands is to use VO commands.  
Right now when my phone is connected, I can swipe to things on my phone but I 
cannot activate anything with double tap gestures using the keyboard.  I can 
type into search fields and if I use the up and down arrows I can activate the 
context menus but can’t activate anything.  I’ve actually even tried using 
space bar and the enter key as I would on a laptop keyboard but if memory 
serves there are actual keyboard commands to evoke VO functions when using a 
blue tooth keyboard.

Any help would be appreciated.

Johna

 

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RE: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi. From what I understand it just happens automatically and there is no way to 
force it.

 

Chris Judge

  

 

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Subject: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

 

Hey, I got Air Pod Pros last fall and recall something about firmware 
occasionally being updated.  Does this occur during charging process or are 
there steps needed to do this?

Dan

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Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

[Robert Hill]

Well, I'm not sure with a iPhone keyboard, but on the Macintosh, you can just 
hold down the caps lock key and press the key you want to use, just like 
holding the "control-option" key combination for the Voiceover keys.

If I'm wrong, I apologize for passing incorrect info.

Bob Hill


> On Oct 11, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> How would I change the caps lock to be my vo key?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Robert Hill
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 5:07 AM
> To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  >
> Subject: Re: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> With VoiceOver, on a regular keyboard you can also use CAPSlock as the VO 
> key, don't know if the keyboard you're talking about has caps lock, but it 
> might be worth a try.
>  
> Bob Hill
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Christopher Chaltain  > wrote:
>  
> I’m not familiar with this keyboard, but you want to hold down the control 
> and options keys in conjunction with other keys. The control+options keys 
> held down together is called the VO key. You can also turn on quick 
> navigation by holding down the left and right arrow keys at the same time. 
> This will let you do a lot without having to use the VO key. Richard’s web 
> page has a lot of good resources. It’s at Richard Turner's Home Page 
> (turner42.com) 
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Johna Gravitt
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> Hello,
> Just wondering if anyone on this list has used or uses a pluggable foldable 
> Bluetooth keyboard with their iPhone?
> I can’t seem to remember what the keyboard commands is to use VO commands.  
> Right now when my phone is connected, I can swipe to things on my phone but I 
> cannot activate anything with double tap gestures using the keyboard.  I can 
> type into search fields and if I use the up and down arrows I can activate 
> the context menus but can’t activate anything.  I’ve actually even tried 
> using space bar and the enter key as I would on a laptop keyboard but if 
> memory serves there are actual keyboard commands to evoke VO functions when 
> using a blue tooth keyboard.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Johna
>  
> Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate
> People with disabilities, access job openings at:  
> https://benderconsult.com/jobs/ 
> 
> Bender Consulting Services, Inc.Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com 
> Phone: (412)-446-4442
> Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567
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> https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/ 
> 
> https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/ 
> 
> https://idisability.benderconsult.com/ 
> 

anyone know where I could get some ringtones of dec-talk synthe?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  Does anyone know where I can find some ringtones of
dectalk synthesyzer.  I found some clips on an ftp site I use
sometimes, but most of the clips are to large to work as ringtones.
Thanks for any help.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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