Re: tabs in apps being pronounced as tab bar?

[Richard Turner]

Adam,
Thanks for asking the question.
That sent me on a hunt.
I found it.
That is a Container Description.
You can turn that off, or set it to play a sound, or just have it in braille, 
under VoiceOver Verbosity settings.
HTH,



Richard
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Jane Wagner





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On Oct 20, 2021, at 10:10 PM, Adam Morris  wrote:

 Hi all,
Have two iPhones running 15.
One of them when I'm in an app like the phone etc says tab bar when on the four 
tabs at the bottom.
The other just says contacts tab without saying it's a tab bar.
There is a setting somewhere in VO to make this happen.
If anyone can tell me what needs doing to make both phones not say tab bar when 
on the bottom row of buttons that would be great.
TIA.


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tabs in apps being pronounced as tab bar?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,
Have two iPhones running 15.
One of them when I'm in an app like the phone etc says tab bar when on 
the four tabs at the bottom.

The other just says contacts tab without saying it's a tab bar.
There is a setting somewhere in VO to make this happen.
If anyone can tell me what needs doing to make both phones not say tab 
bar when on the bottom row of buttons that would be great.

TIA.

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RE: Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

[Alan Lemly]

I’d recommend you start Amazon Music, execute the More options button in the 
upper right corner of the screen, swipe to Settings and double tap, swipe to 
Hands free with Alexa and turn that switch off. I’m not experiencing the 
problem described in this thread and I have that switch turned off.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

 

I had that problem, but after fiddling and fumbling around, I fixed it somehow, 
without knowing what I did to fix it.  Now the music comes out right.

 

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com  
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/20/2021 6:54 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

For me, it puts VoiceOver onto the little speaker at the top of the phone, and 
very quietly. 

If I have a bluetooth earphone in, it switches to the phone speaker again very 
quietly.

If I bring up the Control Center, and select media destination, and pick 
Speaker, it comes out loudly on the phone speaker, but bluetooth earphones are 
simply not an option.

This will be good to do a screen recording of and sending to Apple, though they 
will turn it back onto Amazon no doubt.

I've not tried it with wired earphones.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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On Oct 20, 2021, at 3:40 PM, doug parisian   
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Subject says it all; I can register and subsequently move around the 
application. However, when I leave and return, voiceover gets quiet and there 
is no noise whatsoever from my Iphone XR with all recent updates. I have tried 
removing Amazon music from the task switcher and even reinstalling with the 
same results.

So, the obvious question--anyone else having this problem?

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RE: Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And so they should, this is not Apple's fault

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 20, 2021 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

For me, it puts VoiceOver onto the little speaker at the top of the phone, and 
very quietly.
If I have a bluetooth earphone in, it switches to the phone speaker again very 
quietly.
If I bring up the Control Center, and select media destination, and pick 
Speaker, it comes out loudly on the phone speaker, but bluetooth earphones are 
simply not an option.
This will be good to do a screen recording of and sending to Apple, though they 
will turn it back onto Amazon no doubt.
I've not tried it with wired earphones.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Oct 20, 2021, at 3:40 PM, doug parisian  wrote:
Subject says it all; I can register and subsequently move around the 
application. However, when I leave and return, voiceover gets quiet and there 
is no noise whatsoever from my Iphone XR with all recent updates. I have tried 
removing Amazon music from the task switcher and even reinstalling with the 
same results.

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RE: App that pays you for walking

[Christopher Chaltain]

Why would I want to do what? I'm not interested in jail breaking my iPhone, so 
someone else would have to answer that question, but I'd assume it's because 
they're interested in customizing IOS in a way that they can't do with vanilla 
IOS. As I said, even though you can still jail break IOS, it isn't as popular 
as it used to be because Apple has made IOS more and more customizable over the 
years.

The reason I looked up jail breaking was because I wanted to correct some 
Android users who think jail breaking iPhones is a big cottage industry. Again, 
as I said, even though it's still possible it's not the cottage industry it 
used to be.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App that pays you for walking

Why would you want to do that though?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 10:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App that pays you for walking

I looked this up the other day, and there are tools to jail break IOS 14. I 
didn't see anything for IOS 15 though.

I looked this up because some Android users were talking about jail breaking 
IOS, and since I hear so little about it, I wanted to see if it was even still 
a thing. Apparently it is, but it's no where near as popular as it was five or 
more years ago.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App that pays you for walking

You can't install an app on an iPhone unless it is in the App Store or at least 
you can't unless your iPhone is jailbroken and I don't even know if currently 
there are jailbreaks for iOS 14 let alone iOS 15.
Anyways, for those who asked if it was in the Canadian or US app stores the 
answer is No, really all you have to do in order to find out is to open the App 
Store app on your phone and to search for the name of the app. In some cases it 
might be not so clear if an app has a very generic name, but in this case the 
only thing which comes up here in Canada when you type in "Stepler" is an app 
called "Steple" without the "r" at the end and whatever is said about that app 
is I think in Japanese and furthermore it hasn't been updated in a year.
When you Google "Stepler App" you find a link to it in the Norwegian app store, 
but that of course doesn't really help.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alexandra
Sent: October 20, 2021 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AW: App that pays you for walking

The developer's name is Stepler app, but it could be possible that this app is 
not available in the US app store. Anyway, to get those bonus points, you 
should install the app directly from the link I sended.


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von 
MamaPeach
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2021 15:38
An: viphone@googlegroups.com
Betreff: RE: App that pays you for walking

What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming up. 
Can you give the developers name please?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alexandra
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, you 
have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I will 
now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the app. By 
using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsteplerapp.page.link%2FDDVWnKE54v6NznPbA&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc0acdda186584045cb0408d99420508f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703688779256467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Yo1fVDgA%2Fi3y2fxP4Cb4zw8UGWHPn03FZdkx4gFNblc%3D&reserved=0

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RE: Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not having this problem, but have you tried turning off VoiceOver 
Recognition for Apple Music? You can do this using the roter in the App 
Switcher or while you're in Amazon Music.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

Subject says it all; I can register and subsequently move around the 
application. However, when I leave and return, voiceover gets quiet and there 
is no noise whatsoever from my Iphone XR with all recent updates. 
I have tried removing Amazon music from the task switcher and even reinstalling 
with the same results.

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Re: App that pays you for walking

[Donna Casteen]

It doesn't actually pay. The person trades earned points for product discounts 
& services from a catalog. Comparison of the products & pricing is mostly the 
same. So a person can buy the same products at the same price without all of 
the exercising.

Donna

> 
> What,
> How much does it pay per 1000 steps?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alexandra
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 9:56 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: App that pays you for walking
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
> For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
> points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
> points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
> amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
> online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
> watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, 
> you have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I 
> will now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the 
> app. By using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!
> 
> https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA
> 
> Regards, Alexandra
> 
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RE: App that pays you for walking

[Simon A Fogarty]

What,
How much does it pay per 1000 steps?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alexandra
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 9:56 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, you 
have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I will 
now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the app. By 
using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA

Regards, Alexandra


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RE: App that pays you for walking

[Simon A Fogarty]

Why would you want to do that though?



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Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 10:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App that pays you for walking

I looked this up the other day, and there are tools to jail break IOS 14. I 
didn't see anything for IOS 15 though.

I looked this up because some Android users were talking about jail breaking 
IOS, and since I hear so little about it, I wanted to see if it was even still 
a thing. Apparently it is, but it's no where near as popular as it was five or 
more years ago.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App that pays you for walking

You can't install an app on an iPhone unless it is in the App Store or at least 
you can't unless your iPhone is jailbroken and I don't even know if currently 
there are jailbreaks for iOS 14 let alone iOS 15.
Anyways, for those who asked if it was in the Canadian or US app stores the 
answer is No, really all you have to do in order to find out is to open the App 
Store app on your phone and to search for the name of the app. In some cases it 
might be not so clear if an app has a very generic name, but in this case the 
only thing which comes up here in Canada when you type in "Stepler" is an app 
called "Steple" without the "r" at the end and whatever is said about that app 
is I think in Japanese and furthermore it hasn't been updated in a year.
When you Google "Stepler App" you find a link to it in the Norwegian app store, 
but that of course doesn't really help.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alexandra
Sent: October 20, 2021 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AW: App that pays you for walking

The developer's name is Stepler app, but it could be possible that this app is 
not available in the US app store. Anyway, to get those bonus points, you 
should install the app directly from the link I sended.


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An: viphone@googlegroups.com
Betreff: RE: App that pays you for walking

What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming up. 
Can you give the developers name please?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alexandra
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, you 
have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I will 
now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the app. By 
using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsteplerapp.page.link%2FDDVWnKE54v6NznPbA&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb4e95f69647346e9e39308d993dfe39e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703412070512654%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2FGhgUMPaGJawXygh7vdTYqLTpTDpXD7PrvS6KqkD72c%3D&reserved=0

Regards, Alexandra


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Re: Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

[Maria Campbell]

I had that problem, but after fiddling and fumbling around, I fixed it 
somehow, without knowing what I did to fix it.  Now the music comes out 
right.




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On 10/20/2021 6:54 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For me, it puts VoiceOver onto the little speaker at the top of the 
phone, and very quietly.
If I have a bluetooth earphone in, it switches to the phone speaker 
again very quietly.
If I bring up the Control Center, and select media destination, and 
pick Speaker, it comes out loudly on the phone speaker, but bluetooth 
earphones are simply not an option.
This will be good to do a screen recording of and sending to Apple, 
though they will turn it back onto Amazon no doubt.

I've not tried it with wired earphones.



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On Oct 20, 2021, at 3:40 PM, doug parisian  wrote:

Subject says it all; I can register and subsequently move around the 
application. However, when I leave and return, voiceover gets quiet 
and there is no noise whatsoever from my Iphone XR with all recent 
updates. I have tried removing Amazon music from the task switcher 
and even reinstalling with the same results.


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Re: Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

[Richard Turner]

For me, it puts VoiceOver onto the little speaker at the top of the phone, and 
very quietly.
If I have a bluetooth earphone in, it switches to the phone speaker again very 
quietly.
If I bring up the Control Center, and select media destination, and pick 
Speaker, it comes out loudly on the phone speaker, but bluetooth earphones are 
simply not an option.
This will be good to do a screen recording of and sending to Apple, though they 
will turn it back onto Amazon no doubt.
I've not tried it with wired earphones.



Richard
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Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 20, 2021, at 3:40 PM, doug parisian  wrote:

Subject says it all; I can register and subsequently move around the 
application. However, when I leave and return, voiceover gets quiet and there 
is no noise whatsoever from my Iphone XR with all recent updates. I have tried 
removing Amazon music from the task switcher and even reinstalling with the 
same results.

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Amazon Music Kills Voiceover

[doug parisian]

Subject says it all; I can register and subsequently move around the 
application. However, when I leave and return, voiceover gets quiet and 
there is no noise whatsoever from my Iphone XR with all recent updates. 
I have tried removing Amazon music from the task switcher and even 
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RE: Multiple Copies of an App?

[Richard Turner]

I believe you are correct Christopher.
I deleted the Watch app from the folder I did not want it in and both vanished.
I had to put it  back from the app library.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Multiple Copies of an App?

Does this really install multiple copies of the app or just give you multiple 
icons to the same app? I'd assume it's just the same app with multiple icons, 
like if you have the Mail app running and you can get to it from either the 
Mail app on your home page or the App Switcher.

To remove just the icon without uninstalling the app, follow Anna's 
instructions but use the remove from home page option instead of the delete app 
option.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:35 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Multiple Copies of an App?

Hi Fazil,

go; into Edit mode and delete them as you would any other app.

Best,
Anna


On Oct 20, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

How can I get rid off all the multiple copies?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:31 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Multiple Copies of an App?

Hi,

It is possible, though, to have more than one instance of an app on your phone. 
You could have an icon that opens Pages on your first home screen and another 
on a page with apps you use for work, for example. To do that, open App 
Library, enter Edit mode, and drag the app to whichever home screen you want. 
You can do this as many times as you like with any app.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

No, you can't install an app multiple times, this can be easily checked by 
going to My Account > My Purchases in the App Store and finding the app in 
question. If you do you will find that it will say "Open" if the app is 
installed and only if the app is not installed will it say "Redownload"

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Multiple Copies of an App?

Hi, Group.
Is it possible that someone installs multiple copies of an app to their iPhone? 
The reason I am asking that some times I feel as I have installed an app more 
than once to my phone. Is this just my false assumption or I, in fact, have 
installed some apps multiple times?

Thanks!
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RE: App that pays you for walking

[Christopher Chaltain]

I looked this up the other day, and there are tools to jail break IOS 14. I 
didn't see anything for IOS 15 though.

I looked this up because some Android users were talking about jail breaking 
IOS, and since I hear so little about it, I wanted to see if it was even still 
a thing. Apparently it is, but it's no where near as popular as it was five or 
more years ago.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App that pays you for walking

You can't install an app on an iPhone unless it is in the App Store or at least 
you can't unless your iPhone is jailbroken and I don't even know if currently 
there are jailbreaks for iOS 14 let alone iOS 15.
Anyways, for those who asked if it was in the Canadian or US app stores the 
answer is No, really all you have to do in order to find out is to open the App 
Store app on your phone and to search for the name of the app. In some cases it 
might be not so clear if an app has a very generic name, but in this case the 
only thing which comes up here in Canada when you type in "Stepler" is an app 
called "Steple" without the "r" at the end and whatever is said about that app 
is I think in Japanese and furthermore it hasn't been updated in a year.
When you Google "Stepler App" you find a link to it in the Norwegian app store, 
but that of course doesn't really help.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alexandra
Sent: October 20, 2021 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AW: App that pays you for walking

The developer's name is Stepler app, but it could be possible that this app is 
not available in the US app store. Anyway, to get those bonus points, you 
should install the app directly from the link I sended.


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An: viphone@googlegroups.com
Betreff: RE: App that pays you for walking

What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming up. 
Can you give the developers name please?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alexandra
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, you 
have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I will 
now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the app. By 
using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsteplerapp.page.link%2FDDVWnKE54v6NznPbA&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb4e95f69647346e9e39308d993dfe39e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703412070512654%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2FGhgUMPaGJawXygh7vdTYqLTpTDpXD7PrvS6KqkD72c%3D&reserved=0

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RE: Multiple Copies of an App?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Does this really install multiple copies of the app or just give you multiple 
icons to the same app? I'd assume it's just the same app with multiple icons, 
like if you have the Mail app running and you can get to it from either the 
Mail app on your home page or the App Switcher.

To remove just the icon without uninstalling the app, follow Anna's 
instructions but use the remove from home page option instead of the delete app 
option.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:35 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Multiple Copies of an App?

Hi Fazil,

go; into Edit mode and delete them as you would any other app.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 20, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

How can I get rid off all the multiple copies?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:31 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Multiple Copies of an App?

Hi,

It is possible, though, to have more than one instance of an app on your phone. 
You could have an icon that opens Pages on your first home screen and another 
on a page with apps you use for work, for example. To do that, open App 
Library, enter Edit mode, and drag the app to whichever home screen you want. 
You can do this as many times as you like with any app.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

No, you can't install an app multiple times, this can be easily checked by 
going to My Account > My Purchases in the App Store and finding the app in 
question. If you do you will find that it will say "Open" if the app is 
installed and only if the app is not installed will it say "Redownload"

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Multiple Copies of an App?

Hi, Group.
Is it possible that someone installs multiple copies of an app to their iPhone? 
The reason I am asking that some times I feel as I have installed an app more 
than once to my phone. Is this just my false assumption or I, in fact, have 
installed some apps multiple times?

Thanks!
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Re: App that pays you for walking

[Donna Casteen]

Not if for 30 days I walked 20,000+ steps & you are paid with gift cards & not 
cash. Of course, it has been a year & a half, so payment method may have 
changed.

Donna

> 
> I guess that depends on your perspective and how much you walk. If you can 
> earn $2 a month for something you do anyways and that can be easily redeemed 
> for something you would buy anyways then $24 a year is $24 of free money.
> However, I am usually a bit suspicious myself when it comes to such offers 
> where you seemingly get something for free, most such offers do come with 
> some sort of hidden cost and reading the app desdcription in the Norwegian 
> app store it did mention that you do have to share all sorts of stuff with 
> them including your location and identifiers which means this is of course 
> just another app which uses that information for targeted advertising when 
> you later on browse the web etc.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: October 20, 2021 10:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: App that pays you for walking
> 
> This app is only available for android phones in the U.S. And in my opinion, 
> the payout for steps is a waste of time. It will take years to build up 
> enough points to cash in for spending. I deleted the app after a month of 
> have earned less than $2.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> You can't install an app on an iPhone unless it is in the App Store or at 
>> least you can't unless your iPhone is jailbroken and I don't even know if 
>> currently there are jailbreaks for iOS 14 let alone iOS 15.
>> Anyways, for those who asked if it was in the Canadian or US app stores the 
>> answer is No, really all you have to do in order to find out is to open the 
>> App Store app on your phone and to search for the name of the app. In some 
>> cases it might be not so clear if an app has a very generic name, but in 
>> this case the only thing which comes up here in Canada when you type in 
>> "Stepler" is an app called "Steple" without the "r" at the end and whatever 
>> is said about that app is I think in Japanese and furthermore it hasn't been 
>> updated in a year.
>> When you Google "Stepler App" you find a link to it in the Norwegian app 
>> store, but that of course doesn't really help.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Alexandra
>> Sent: October 20, 2021 8:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: AW: App that pays you for walking
>> 
>> The developer's name is Stepler app, but it could be possible that this app 
>> is not available in the US app store. Anyway, to get those bonus points, you 
>> should install the app directly from the link I sended.
>> 
>> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag 
>> von MamaPeach
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2021 15:38
>> An: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Betreff: RE: App that pays you for walking
>> 
>> What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming 
>> up. Can you give the developers name please?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alexandra
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: App that pays you for walking
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
>> For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
>> points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
>> points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
>> amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
>> online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
>> watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, 
>> you have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I 
>> will now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the 
>> app. By using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!
>> 
>> https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA
>> 
>> Regards, Alexandra
>> 
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Re: Multiple Copies of an App?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Fazil,

go; into Edit mode and delete them as you would any other app.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 20, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> How can I get rid off all the multiple copies?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:31 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List  >
> Subject: Re: Multiple Copies of an App?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> It is possible, though, to have more than one instance of an app on your 
> phone. You could have an icon that opens Pages on your first home screen and 
> another on a page with apps you use for work, for example. To do that, open 
> App Library, enter Edit mode, and drag the app to whichever home screen you 
> want. You can do this as many times as you like with any app.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>>  
>> No, you can't install an app multiple times, this can be easily checked by 
>> going to My Account > My Purchases in the App Store and finding the app in 
>> question. If you do you will find that it will say "Open" if the app is 
>> installed and only if the app is not installed will it say "Redownload"
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Fazil
>> Sent: October 19, 2021 7:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Multiple Copies of an App?
>>  
>> Hi, Group.
>> Is it possible that someone installs multiple copies of an app to their 
>> iPhone? The reason I am asking that some times I feel as I have installed an 
>> app more than once to my phone. Is this just my false assumption or I, in 
>> fact, have installed some apps multiple times?
>>  
>> Thanks!
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RE: App that pays you for walking

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I guess that depends on your perspective and how much you walk. If you can earn 
$2 a month for something you do anyways and that can be easily redeemed for 
something you would buy anyways then $24 a year is $24 of free money.
However, I am usually a bit suspicious myself when it comes to such offers 
where you seemingly get something for free, most such offers do come with some 
sort of hidden cost and reading the app desdcription in the Norwegian app store 
it did mention that you do have to share all sorts of stuff with them including 
your location and identifiers which means this is of course just another app 
which uses that information for targeted advertising when you later on browse 
the web etc.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: October 20, 2021 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App that pays you for walking

This app is only available for android phones in the U.S. And in my opinion, 
the payout for steps is a waste of time. It will take years to build up enough 
points to cash in for spending. I deleted the app after a month of have earned 
less than $2.

Donna


> 
> You can't install an app on an iPhone unless it is in the App Store or at 
> least you can't unless your iPhone is jailbroken and I don't even know if 
> currently there are jailbreaks for iOS 14 let alone iOS 15.
> Anyways, for those who asked if it was in the Canadian or US app stores the 
> answer is No, really all you have to do in order to find out is to open the 
> App Store app on your phone and to search for the name of the app. In some 
> cases it might be not so clear if an app has a very generic name, but in this 
> case the only thing which comes up here in Canada when you type in "Stepler" 
> is an app called "Steple" without the "r" at the end and whatever is said 
> about that app is I think in Japanese and furthermore it hasn't been updated 
> in a year.
> When you Google "Stepler App" you find a link to it in the Norwegian app 
> store, but that of course doesn't really help.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alexandra
> Sent: October 20, 2021 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AW: App that pays you for walking
> 
> The developer's name is Stepler app, but it could be possible that this app 
> is not available in the US app store. Anyway, to get those bonus points, you 
> should install the app directly from the link I sended.
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag 
> von MamaPeach
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2021 15:38
> An: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: RE: App that pays you for walking
> 
> What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming 
> up. Can you give the developers name please?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alexandra
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: App that pays you for walking
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
> For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
> points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
> points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
> amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
> online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
> watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, 
> you have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I 
> will now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the 
> app. By using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!
> 
> https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA
> 
> Regards, Alexandra
> 
> 
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Re: App that pays you for walking

[Donna Casteen]

This app is only available for android phones in the U.S. And in my opinion, 
the payout for steps is a waste of time. It will take years to build up enough 
points to cash in for spending. I deleted the app after a month of have earned 
less than $2.

Donna


> 
> You can't install an app on an iPhone unless it is in the App Store or at 
> least you can't unless your iPhone is jailbroken and I don't even know if 
> currently there are jailbreaks for iOS 14 let alone iOS 15.
> Anyways, for those who asked if it was in the Canadian or US app stores the 
> answer is No, really all you have to do in order to find out is to open the 
> App Store app on your phone and to search for the name of the app. In some 
> cases it might be not so clear if an app has a very generic name, but in this 
> case the only thing which comes up here in Canada when you type in "Stepler" 
> is an app called "Steple" without the "r" at the end and whatever is said 
> about that app is I think in Japanese and furthermore it hasn't been updated 
> in a year.
> When you Google "Stepler App" you find a link to it in the Norwegian app 
> store, but that of course doesn't really help.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alexandra
> Sent: October 20, 2021 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AW: App that pays you for walking
> 
> The developer's name is Stepler app, but it could be possible that this app 
> is not available in the US app store. Anyway, to get those bonus points, you 
> should install the app directly from the link I sended.
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag 
> von MamaPeach
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2021 15:38
> An: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: RE: App that pays you for walking
> 
> What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming 
> up. Can you give the developers name please?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alexandra
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: App that pays you for walking
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
> For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
> points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
> points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
> amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
> online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
> watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, 
> you have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I 
> will now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the 
> app. By using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!
> 
> https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA
> 
> Regards, Alexandra
> 
> 
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RE: Multiple Copies of an App?

[Fazil]

How can I get rid off all the multiple copies?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:31 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Multiple Copies of an App?

 

Hi,

 

It is possible, though, to have more than one instance of an app on your phone. 
You could have an icon that opens Pages on your first home screen and another 
on a page with apps you use for work, for example. To do that, open App 
Library, enter Edit mode, and drag the app to whichever home screen you want. 
You can do this as many times as you like with any app.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

No, you can't install an app multiple times, this can be easily checked by 
going to My Account > My Purchases in the App Store and finding the app in 
question. If you do you will find that it will say "Open" if the app is 
installed and only if the app is not installed will it say "Redownload"

 

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Sent: October 19, 2021 7:24 PM
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Subject: Multiple Copies of an App?

 

Hi, Group.

Is it possible that someone installs multiple copies of an app to their iPhone? 
The reason I am asking that some times I feel as I have installed an app more 
than once to my phone. Is this just my false assumption or I, in fact, have 
installed some apps multiple times?

 

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RE: Amazon

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, that is correct, but you typically have to confirm with your password once 
you check out the items in your cart, but I personally don't find having to 
type in my Amazon password inconvenient especially since I can search for items 
much faster and browse the search results much faster and potentially read the 
item details much faster with Jaws and using the various tools at my disposal 
like headings, buttons and so on. Yes, I know these exist on the iPhone as 
well, but I just find it easier to type "h", use heading level 2 to go from 
search result to search result or press Alt + left arrow to go back a screen 
than having to turn the rotor and flick up and down etc. But that is just my 
preference and if others feel the app makes it easier then that is of course 
great for them.


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Sent: October 20, 2021 6:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

Amazon on the computer can also remember who you are so you don't have to log 
in.

Sherry Wells

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found the 
recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as I'm 
starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the corner.
I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is quicker 
and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in, and I can 
just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
Alison
I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing to 
log 

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Weitzel
Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update r

RE: App that pays you for walking

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can't install an app on an iPhone unless it is in the App Store or at least 
you can't unless your iPhone is jailbroken and I don't even know if currently 
there are jailbreaks for iOS 14 let alone iOS 15.
Anyways, for those who asked if it was in the Canadian or US app stores the 
answer is No, really all you have to do in order to find out is to open the App 
Store app on your phone and to search for the name of the app. In some cases it 
might be not so clear if an app has a very generic name, but in this case the 
only thing which comes up here in Canada when you type in "Stepler" is an app 
called "Steple" without the "r" at the end and whatever is said about that app 
is I think in Japanese and furthermore it hasn't been updated in a year.
When you Google "Stepler App" you find a link to it in the Norwegian app store, 
but that of course doesn't really help.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alexandra
Sent: October 20, 2021 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AW: App that pays you for walking

The developer's name is Stepler app, but it could be possible that this app is 
not available in the US app store. Anyway, to get those bonus points, you 
should install the app directly from the link I sended.


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MamaPeach
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2021 15:38
An: viphone@googlegroups.com
Betreff: RE: App that pays you for walking

What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming up. 
Can you give the developers name please?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alexandra
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, you 
have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I will 
now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the app. By 
using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA

Regards, Alexandra


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AW: App that pays you for walking

[Alexandra]

I'm sorry, I don't have access to the Canadian app store and therefore don't 
know if the app is available.


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Hi I just clicked on the web page and it seems to be in sweddish so I would say 
maybe it is from sweedin? I would like to know if this is in the Canadion app 
store as well. From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of MamaPeach
Sent: October 20, 2021 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App that pays you for walking

What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming up. 
Can you give the developers name please?

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Alexandra
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, you 
have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I will 
now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the app. By 
using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA

Regards, Alexandra


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AW: App that pays you for walking

[Alexandra]

The developer's name is Stepler app, but it could be possible that this app is 
not available in the US app store. Anyway, to get those bonus points, you 
should install the app directly from the link I sended.


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What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming up. 
Can you give the developers name please?

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Alexandra
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, you 
have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I will 
now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the app. By 
using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA

Regards, Alexandra


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RE: App that pays you for walking

[michv]

Hi I just clicked on the web page and it seems to be in sweddish so I would say 
maybe it is from sweedin? I would like to know if this is in the Canadion app 
store as well. From Mich.

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What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming up. 
Can you give the developers name please?

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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
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Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20 
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus 
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain 
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other 
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple 
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points, you 
have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I will 
now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the app. By 
using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA

Regards, Alexandra


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Re: Multiple Copies of an App?

[Richard Turner]

Yes, and sometimes the Gremlins in iOS decide to do that for you.
I found that I had the Watch app in two different folders.
I think iOS 15 thought I needed it in my productivity folder, even though I 
never moved it there.

I I've been pretty anal about keeping apps organized by folders since my first 
device over 10 years ago.
So, the Gremlins were definitely messing with me.



Richard
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website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 20, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

 Hi,

It is possible, though, to have more than one instance of an app on your phone. 
You could have an icon that opens Pages on your first home screen and another 
on a page with apps you use for work, for example. To do that, open App 
Library, enter Edit mode, and drag the app to whichever home screen you want. 
You can do this as many times as you like with any app.

Best,
Anna


On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

No, you can't install an app multiple times, this can be easily checked by 
going to My Account > My Purchases in the App Store and finding the app in 
question. If you do you will find that it will say "Open" if the app is 
installed and only if the app is not installed will it say "Redownload"

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Multiple Copies of an App?

Hi, Group.
Is it possible that someone installs multiple copies of an app to their iPhone? 
The reason I am asking that some times I feel as I have installed an app more 
than once to my phone. Is this just my false assumption or I, in fact, have 
installed some apps multiple times?

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Re: Multiple Copies of an App?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

It is possible, though, to have more than one instance of an app on your phone. 
You could have an icon that opens Pages on your first home screen and another 
on a page with apps you use for work, for example. To do that, open App 
Library, enter Edit mode, and drag the app to whichever home screen you want. 
You can do this as many times as you like with any app.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> No, you can't install an app multiple times, this can be easily checked by 
> going to My Account > My Purchases in the App Store and finding the app in 
> question. If you do you will find that it will say "Open" if the app is 
> installed and only if the app is not installed will it say "Redownload"
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Fazil
> Sent: October 19, 2021 7:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Multiple Copies of an App?
>  
> Hi, Group.
> Is it possible that someone installs multiple copies of an app to their 
> iPhone? The reason I am asking that some times I feel as I have installed an 
> app more than once to my phone. Is this just my false assumption or I, in 
> fact, have installed some apps multiple times?
>  
> Thanks!
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RE: Amazon

[sherrywells1157]

I meant that Amazon on a computer will remember you so that you don't have to 
log in.  Like some others, I much prefer to just use Amazon on the computer.  
Of course reordering things is easiest with the Echo as all you have to do is 
to say reorder x then say buy it now once it is in the cart.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

Sherry, yes that was one of the things that I did. All that Amazon did was go 
back to the app. So, even the website wasn’t working correctly. Good idea 
though. Just didn’t work.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 20, 2021, at 9:07 AM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:

Amazon on the computer can also remember who you are so you don't have to log 
in.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found the 
recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as I'm 
starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the corner.
I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is quicker 
and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in, and I can 
just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
Alison
I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing to 
log 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates: 
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> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
> who do. -Steve Jobs 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> go

Re: Amazon

[regina alvarado]

Sherry, yes that was one of the things that I did. All that Amazon did was go 
back to the app. So, even the website wasn’t working correctly. Good idea 
though. Just didn’t work.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 20, 2021, at 9:07 AM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:

Amazon on the computer can also remember who you are so you don't have to log 
in.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found the 
recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as I'm 
starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the corner.
I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is quicker 
and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in, and I can 
just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
Alison
I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing to 
log 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates: 
> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
> who do. -Steve Jobs 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Amazon

[regina alvarado]

Thank you so much for letting them know. The last time something went wrong I 
had a heckuva time trying to even find where to let them know. I did, but I 
have a feeling somebody else also did in a better place than I used. It was 
really hard to do because it was on a website and the website wasn’t accepting 
my  input. Anyway, thank you so much for letting them know. Apparently they are 
quite responsive once they know.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go 
to a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates: 
> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
> who do. -Steve Jobs 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Gestures on 10 and up.

[Carolyn]

Here is a post from Rita Howells on the TTJ list. 

 

Explanation of an Apple iPhone Home Screen in iOS 15:
Rita's iDevice Advice for October 18, 2021

 

Home Screen in iOS 15

Standard iPhone gestures such as a swipe up from the bottom
to go to the Home Screen or App Switcher are augmented for
VoiceOver users by providing additional haptics and audio
feedback.

The iPhone X and the later models do not have a Home button.

 

Touch Gestures replacing function of the Home button:

Starting at the bottom of the screen and slide one finger
up. You will feel three haptic vibrations referred to as
"clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a
function. Note: The first click alerts you that you are in
the feature. 

 

 

Swipe up gestures:

To go home, swipe up, about 1/3rd of the way up, the screen
with one finger until you feel the first vibration.

To go to the app switcher, swipe up, about half of the way
up the screen,  with one finger until you feel a 2nd
vibration.

When your Apple device is asleep, you can wake it up in one
of several ways, such as pressing the Home or Side button,
or tapping or lifting your device.  You are then immediately
presented with the Lock Screen.  This screen displays a
padlock icon in the center of the screen, with the padlock
either open or closed, depending on the current lock state
of your device.  Directly below that are the current time
and the date, one above the other.  This Lock Screen also
displays any notifications you may have received while your
device was asleep.  Select models also display a flash light
icon in the bottom left, and a Camera icon in the bottom
right.  By default, devices with Face ID hide notification
preview text until the device is unlocked.

To open your iPhone, you can place your finger on the Home
Button (devices with Touch ID), or glance at your device
(with Face ID if this feature is available).

To unlock your iPhone or iPad.  You can slide up with one
finger, using the bar at the very bottom center of the
screen, to go Home.  This places you on the Home Screen.

The Home Screen is divided into 5 distinct elements.  These
include:

Status Bar

App Icons

Page Selector

Dock

Widgets, if enabled

 

the Status Bar is at the top of the screen, and the Dock is
located at the bottom  of the screen, with app icons across
the bottom.  The Dock displays the same app icons, no matter
which Home Screen page you are on..

The App Icon area, located between the Status Bar and the
Page Selector, is a grid of icons, representing all the apps
installed on your device.

The Page Selector is just above the Dock.

 

 

The Status Bar: (Top left and right of screen; This is not a
physical bar):

Many different icons can show up on the Status Bar,
depending on what services you have, etc. For example, an
airplane icon will replace the WiFi icon if your device is
in airplane mode.  LTE, 3G, 4G, 5GE, or others may show up
depending on your current cellular service. There are
indicators for personal hotspot, a call indicator when a
call is in progress, location services icon, etc. 

Normally on the top left side of the Status Bar, the time is
in numbers, like a Digital readout.

Further to the right, the Cellular signal strength is
represented by vertical bars. The stronger the signal, the
more bars are represented (a maximum of 4 bars can show up).

To the right of that is the Wi-Fi indicator which is two
downward curved lines pointing with a dot under the two
curved lines.  The stronger the Wi-Fi signal, the more parts
of this graphic  appear filled in.

At the far right is the Battery indicator which is like a
double A battery lying on its side and the center is filled
with the level of charge which changes as the charge is used
up or replenished.

Note that the Status Bar also appears at the top of the Lock
Screen.

 

 

App Icon Area:

The majority of the Home Screen is comprised of the app icon
area.  This is a grid of apps, which is laid out with
usually six rows (vertically) of apps with four apps
(horizontally) in each row.  Apps can be rearranged on the
Home Screen, so that they appear in the order you prefer.
You can even make folders which can store numerous apps. As
new apps are installed, they most commonly appear last on
the Home Screen.  When you set up a new device, all Apple
apps appear on the Home Screen first, followed by any
third-party apps you may choose to install.  Additional Home
Screen pages are automatically created as needed, so that as
new apps are installed, and the current Home Screen page is
filled up, more pages will automatically appear.  You can
quickly swipe left and right between Home Screen pages
(Voiceover users must swipe with three fingers), or you can
use the Page Selector.

App icons on the Home Screen appear as squares with rounded
corners.  Every app icon is the same size - about the size
of a thumbnail.  Each app has a background color, an actua

RE: App that pays you for walking

[MamaPeach]

What APP store is this in? I searched the US app storre and it isn't coming up. 
Can you give the developers name please?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alexandra
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App that pays you for walking

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points,
you have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I
will now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the
app. By using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA

Regards, Alexandra


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RE: Bird Identification App

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi James,

We live in the U.S., in Florida.  Lots of birds around here.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bird Identification App

Pam,

May I ask you what part of the world do you live in.

Regards,

James B

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bird Identification App

Hi,

I have been trying to find a good bird id app without much success until now.

I heard about the Merlin Bird Id app and have been trying it out, and so far I 
am quite pleased with it.

They have packs that you can download of birds in different geographical areas. 
 So far, I have just downloaded the one for my area to try it out.  It actually 
has identified some birds which other apps were not able to id.  They had 
recently added the ability to identify birds from you recording the bird call 
you are hearing.  They also list the common birds in your area, and if you 
choose one, you can hear a recorded bird call that someone has contributed to 
the app.

So far, I am impressed, especially compared to some of the other apps I have 
tried.  I just wanted to pass this along in case anyone is interested.

Pam

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RE: Amazon

[sherrywells1157]

Amazon on the computer can also remember who you are so you don't have to log 
in.

Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found the 
recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as I'm 
starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the corner.
I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is quicker 
and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in, and I can 
just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
Alison
I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing to 
log 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates: 
> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
> who do. -Steve Jobs 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

[Star Gazer]

My kid almost called 911 when 
we were watching a replay ofa goal the Caps scored against the Penguins. I told 
her it was fine to be a Penguines fan but calling 911 was a bit extreme.. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joney 
Owen
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

 

I didn’t do it with the five click on the side button, but I did when it was 
set for three clicks. I accidentally got emergency. There is a cancellation 
spot there that you can hit. Also, it’s sets off an alarm if you have it set to 
do so, so you know that you’re dialing. Which I am grateful for, because my 
grandson hit my watch when they first came out with SOS and called 911 while he 
was getting his diaper changed. :-) 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Hey folks,

 

Just a note on this if anyone’s keen to give it a try,

 

In most westernised countrys 

I can’t speak for the Asian ones but I know here in nz and I believe in the UsA 
Uk Europe etc,

If you dial your own countrys emergency number  even though that isn’t the 
local  emergency number,

It still works.

 

So here in nz 111 is our dial for all services,

 

But if I dial 911 or 999 or 000 etc 

 

It all goes through to the emergency services as required.

 

It’s a reaction to dial your own code therefore most places make it work in 
their countrys as well.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 3:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: FW: Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

 

Since I had put up incorrect information on my web site, I wanted to send the 
instructions provided by Apple from their support page.  I will be updating my 
documentation but this is important information that everyone should have handy.

 

Use Emergency SOS on your iPhone

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208076 

 

 

With Emergency SOS, you can quickly and easily call for help and alert your 
emergency contacts. 

 

Here's how it works

When you make a call with SOS, your iPhone automatically calls the local 
emergency number. In some countries and regions, you might need to choose the 
service that you need. For example, in China mainland you can choose police, 
fire, or ambulance. 

 

You can also add emergency contacts. After an emergency call ends, your iPhone 
alerts your emergency contacts with a text message, unless you choose to 
cancel. Your iPhone sends them your current location, and, for a period of time 
after you enter SOS mode, it sends updates to your emergency contacts when your 
location changes. 

 

Call emergency services

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 8 or later: 

Press and hold the side button and one of the Volume buttons until the 
Emergency SOS slider appears. 

Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services. If you continue to 
hold down the side button and Volume button, instead of dragging the slider, a 
countdown begins and an alert sounds. If you hold down the buttons until the 
countdown ends, your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.

 

Here's how to make the call on iPhone 7 or earlier: 

Rapidly press the side (or top) button five times. The Emergency SOS slider 
will appear. (In India, you only need to press the button three times, then 
your iPhone automatically calls emergency services.) 

Drag the Emergency SOS slider to call emergency services.

After the call ends, your iPhone sends your Emergency contacts a text message 
with your current location, unless you choose to cancel. If Location Services 
is off, it will temporarily turn on. If your location changes, your contacts 
will get an update, and you'll get a notification about 10 minutes later.

 

If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to 
re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't complete a call to emergency services. 

 

Stop sharing your location

When your location is being shared, you'll get a reminder to stop every 4 hours 
for 24 hours. To stop the updates, tap the status bar and select "Stop Sharing 
Emergency Location." 

 

End a call

If you start the countdown by accident, you can cancel. On iPhone 8 or later, 
release the side button and Volume button. On iPhone 7 or earlier, press the 
Stop button, then tap Stop Calling. 

 

If you accidentally call emergency s

Re: Amazon

[Angie Nutt]

Hi

Actually I’ve often given this much thought and foresee a possibility of a time 
when I may have only a phone. This is because if I ever have to choose, I 
prefer to keep my phone as I use it far more even though I prefer mail on my 
MacBook air; that’s how I’m writing this. I find this computer more efficient 
for mail but my phone is my all round device and of course can go everywhere 
with me.

All the best
Angie


> On 20 Oct 2021, at 03:50, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " 
> if you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not 
> just use your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
> I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
> also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks 
> I do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
> A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
> especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and 
> also my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill 
> payments and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a 
> screenshot of a confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the 
> same and the resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on 
> it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
> Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go 
> to a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
>> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
>> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding 
>> items to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as 
>> address and credit card are the same and you select to remember that 
>> checking out using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use 
>> the button quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and 
>> activate it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> regina alvarado
>> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Amazon
>> 
>> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
>> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
>> so they can fix it too. 
>> 
>> Reggie Alvarado 
>> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
>> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and 
>> that issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
>> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
>> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
>> 
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates: 
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>> who do. -Steve Jobs 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if 
>>> I’ve done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated 
>>> apps. But when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read 
>>> anything on the page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The 
>>> whole middle bit is gone.
>>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>>> Does anyone have any advice?
>>> Thanks
>>> Richard 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Amazon

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

This issue is not noticeable if you are using bluetooth headset.

On 10/20/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Hey did you try using a web browser on your phone to access the amazon site
>
> Or just the amazon app?
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ &
> AA MAY
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 8:45 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Amazon
>
> Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found
> the recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as
> I'm starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the
> corner.
> I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is
> quicker and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in,
> and I can just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
> Alison
> I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing
> to log
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Amazon
>
> I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said "
> if you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not
> just use your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
> I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I
> also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many
> tasks I do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
> A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and
> especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and
> also my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill
> payments and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a
> screenshot of a confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the
> same and the resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR
> on it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy
> Brandt
> Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
>
> I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go
> to a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a
>> computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient
>> and I can search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as
>> adding items to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences
>> such as address and credit card are the same and you select to remember
>> that checking out using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means
>> you use the button quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase
>> button and activate it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> regina alvarado
>> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Amazon
>>
>> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware
>> of this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell
>> Duolingo so they can fix it too.
>>
>> Reggie Alvarado
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some
>> thing on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4
>> and that issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to
>> Amazon accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with
>> Amazon app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
>>
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates:
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones
>> who do. -Steve Jobs
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if
>>> I’ve done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated
>>> apps. But when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read
>>> anything on the page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The
>>> whole middle bit is gone.
>>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but
>>> as soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve
>>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>>> Does anyone have any advice?
>>> Thanks
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

[Cheryl LeFurgey]

I tried sending them an email when I was having a different accessibility bug, 
but never got a reply.
I've sent them tweets before though, with mixed results.
Let's hope they get this fixed soon, doing lessons without being able to see 
what you're typing is frustrating.

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App that pays you for walking

[Alexandra]

Hi,

I recently discovered Stepler, an app that kind of pays you for doing steps.
For every 1000 steps you do, you will earn one point. You can get up to 20
points for doing up to 2 steps a day. It's also possible to earn bonus
points for doing 5000, 1 and 15000 steps a day. When you have a certain
amount of points, you can exchange them into coupons for amazon and other
online shops. The app is totally free. Steps are counted by wearing an Apple
watch or by carrying your iPhone around. In order to receive bonus points,
you have to allow stepler to access the number of steps from Apple health. I
will now send you a link that you can open with your iPhone to download the
app. By using this link, you will earn ten bonus points. Happy walking!

https://steplerapp.page.link/DDVWnKE54v6NznPbA

Regards, Alexandra


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RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi.

Have you considered Hadley? 
They offer some excellent workshops on using voiceover among many other things.
www.hadley.edu

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the

RE: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

[CJ & AA MAY]

I haven't joind their Twitter or Facebook, but perhaps I should as I don't know 
how to contact them via e-mail.
I haven't suffered the sluggishness though.
I often dip into "discuss" when I'm unclear why my answer hasn't been accepted 
and wonder how can you contribute to discussions? Are these people using the 
app on their PCs I wonder?
Alison


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Sent: 19 October 2021 11:24
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Subject: Re: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

Oh good, it's not just me.
I'm doing the French course, and not being able to review what I've typed is 
annoying.
Does anyone else's voiceover get a bit sluggish sometimes?
I haven't found any work arounds for these issues, unfortunately.
They seem pretty responsive to their Twitter, at least in my experience.

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RE: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

[CJ & AA MAY]

I too don't know how to contact Duo Lingo to ask them to fix this bug. It seems 
to affect all languages as I am learning German but my friend, who is learning 
French, has the same issues.
Alison


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
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Sent: 19 October 2021 17:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

Allison, I absolutely am having problems with Duolingo! There is no work around 
that I can find. It is very hard to get a hold of them. If anyone has any idea 
how to get a hold of them I would deeply appreciate it. I am using it, but it’s 
very difficult. Also, Amazon has broken. You can get two items on a page that 
you ask for, but if you want to see the item and what it is and get to the cart 
to put it in the cart you can’t do it. Someone told me that this was an issue 
that is not because of voiceover but an issue that Amazon broke the app for 
iPhone. However, I don’t think that’s the case.  I can absolutely find no way 
to contact them. Wondering if anybody else has been having trouble with Amazon 
also. 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:24 AM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:

Oh good, it's not just me.
I'm doing the French course, and not being able to review what I've typed is 
annoying.
Does anyone else's voiceover get a bit sluggish sometimes?
I haven't found any work arounds for these issues, unfortunately.
They seem pretty responsive to their Twitter, at least in my experience.

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RE: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

[CJ & AA MAY]

I thought at first that Duo Lingo wasn't allowing me to enter text, as I just 
got that bonking noice every time I pressed a letter. I now know it is 
accepting the text but, as you say, you can't see what you have written to 
correct your mistakes. 
I do hope they sort it soon as I have made amazing progress in learning German 
over the last year using this app.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone  
Sent: 19 October 2021 18:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problems following the Duo Lingo recent update

I am having the same problems others have mentioned here. It’s really hard not 
to be able to see what you are writing. I did use it yesterday, but I don’t 
like not being able to correct mistakes and knowing I just have to make them. I 
don’t use Twitter, so I’m not sure how to contact them. I looked, and basically 
there was no way to do this. I too did not see any way for a workaround.



Kristeen Hughes

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:04 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Allison, I absolutely am having problems with Duolingo! There is no work 
> around that I can find. It is very hard to get a hold of them. If anyone has 
> any idea how to get a hold of them I would deeply appreciate it. I am using 
> it, but it’s very difficult. Also, Amazon has broken. You can get two items 
> on a page that you ask for, but if you want to see the item and what it is 
> and get to the cart to put it in the cart you can’t do it. Someone told me 
> that this was an issue that is not because of voiceover but an issue that 
> Amazon broke the app for iPhone. However, I don’t think that’s the case.  I 
> can absolutely find no way to contact them. Wondering if anybody else has 
> been having trouble with Amazon also. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:24 AM, Cheryl LeFurgey  wrote:
> 
> Oh good, it's not just me.
> I'm doing the French course, and not being able to review what I've typed is 
> annoying.
> Does anyone else's voiceover get a bit sluggish sometimes?
> I haven't found any work arounds for these issues, unfortunately.
> They seem pretty responsive to their Twitter, at least in my experience.
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RE: Amazon

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey did you try using a web browser on your phone to access the amazon site 
Or just the amazon app?




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 8:45 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found the 
recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as I'm 
starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the corner.
I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is quicker 
and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in, and I can 
just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
Alison
I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing to 
log 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Amazon

[CJ & AA MAY]

Both are equally important to me, my iPhone and my computer. But I've found the 
recent problems with using Amazon on my iPhone really frustrtating as I'm 
starting my Christmas shopping early with surgery just around the corner.
I can use the computer, of course, but using the iPhone with Amazon is quicker 
and simpler as it remembers who I am, and I don't need to log in, and I can 
just use my fingerprint to confirm an order.
Alison
I like to use Amazon on my iPhone as it is quicker and simpler, not needing to 
log 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 20 October 2021 03:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon

I realize that this might be the case for some people which is why I said " if 
you have a computer with Jaws or NVDA why not use it" and not "why not just use 
your computer with Jaws or NVDA".
I would definitely not want to be without my iPhone, but at the same time I 
also would never consider not having a computer, there are way too many tasks I 
do where the computer is 10 times more efficient and quick.
A few examples for me are creating and working with Excel, Writing and 
especially editing longer passages of text, doing serious web browsing and also 
my online banking since I prefer to print all confirmations for bill payments 
and such to PDF files for archiving and while I could take a screenshot of a 
confirmation page with the iPhone, it's just not quite the same and the 
resulting file would not be accessible unless I performed OCR on it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon

I know of at least one person who Soli uses their mobile device, so can’t go to 
a computer to finish an Amazon purchase.
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not that I don't think this shouldn't be fixed, but if you have a computer 
> with Jaws or NVDA why not use it, I find it much more efficient and I can 
> search for and read products descriptions much faster as well as adding items 
> to the cart and checking out. If your checkout preferences such as address 
> and credit card are the same and you select to remember that checking out 
> using Edge or Chrome with a screenreader simply means you use the button 
> quick nav keys until you find the Complete Purchase button and activate it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: October 19, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon
> 
> I’m way ahead of you! Already done and tested. Apparently Amazon is aware of 
> this and will fix it by Friday. I’m hoping that somebody will tell Duolingo 
> so they can fix it too. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I began having this issue since last Thursday night. I think it’s some thing 
> on their end with their server as I had updated the app on October 4 and that 
> issue started afterwards. I suggest you report this problem to Amazon 
> accessibility. I am only having this problem  on some products with Amazon 
> app for iPhone. It works fine with the computer.
> 
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:58 AM, 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is anyone else having trouble with the Amazon app? I don’t even know if I’ve 
>> done an update recently, it’s not in the list of recently updated apps. But 
>> when I search for something then pick a result I can’t read anything on the 
>> page apart from the search bar and bottom buttons. The whole middle bit is 
>> gone.
>> I have limited vision and I can see the page is there to start with but as 
>> soon as I tap on the screen the whole middle bit just goes blank. I’ve 
>> deleted and reinstalled the app but it has made no difference.
>> Does anyone have any advice?
>> Thanks
>> Richard 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: October 18 Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here in Canada we were around Par with the USD and for a short time the CAD was 
actually worth more than the USD around 2008
But 7 or so years before that 1 USD was over $1.60 CAD and now we are around 
$1.25 to $1.30 CAD for 1 USD.
It's all relative anyways, the CAD is worth less, but people also earn more 
here in Canadian Dollars. I think some US states have a minimum wage, but I 
don't think all of them do. Here in British Columbia minimum wage as of this 
June is $15.20 which currently is equivalent to approx. $12.30 USD. That is 
what I have to pay, for example, a 15 or 16-year old high school kid for which 
it might be their first job and of course if they are not a student under 18 
who don't make much in terms of employment insurance and Canada Pension Plan 
then there are additional costs on top of that for me for those things. Now, 
don't get me wrong, I am not saying this is wrong because after all, if 
somebody does work a minimum wage job and that is their main income and they 
work full time which means around 2000 or 2100 hours a year this means they 
make around $31,000 a year give or take a bit which is barely enough if you 
have to pay rent, eat and have a few other costs especially if you live in an 
expensive city like Vancouver or Toronto. But even in my small little northern 
town a 1-bedroom apartment or basement suite is easily $1,000 to $1,200 a month 
and in other places you are lucky if you find one for $1,500.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: October 19, 2021 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

I shouldn’t laugh at this,

Hell wouldn’t that be great,

One nz dollar equal to one USA dollar,

That could be awesome.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 2:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

Just because your currency also has the "Dollar" name does not mean it is 
comparable to the US Dollar.
After all, an iPhone which costs $1,000 US costs 50,000 or 60,000 in the 
Philippines because a US Dollar is worth 51 or 52 Philippine Pesos.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: October 19, 2021 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

Yeah like us in nz,
Pretty much we double the price from what apple say it is.
I’m going to have a look at the mac book pricing later with the new processors 
and see what they are in nz D.

Last time I looked it was about 6 k for the 16 inch mbp.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2021 5:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: October 18 Apple Event

Yes, I did listen to it now, not sure, but I think maybe the first 10 or 15 
minutes were about Apple Music and the new Airpods. These latest generation 3 
Airpods sound interesting, but I still don't like the very expensive price. On 
the one hand I'd love to try a set but then again I really don't know if I want 
to spend whatever the Canadian price will be, $179 US will most likely mean 
they are at least $249 here or maybe $259 to $279 Canadian, add to that our 
combined 12% taxes in British Columbia and it will be a $300 or just over $300 
set of earbuds. I have tons of points from my credit card and could easily buy 
a pair this way, but there is still something which makes me think not twice 
but thrice about spending that much on two little things I stick in my ear 
especially since I don't really like to stick things into my ear canal and 
probably wouldn't use them when I am going back and forth to my store every 
day. And there are so many other things I can spend money on! We just bought a 
new fridge and I'd love to get new kitchen cabinets and inf act I'd love to 
take our bedroom and combine it with a small one next door for a larger master 
bedroom and then to combine the third upstairs guest room with our living room 
and on my list of long-term plans goes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 5:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: October 18 Apple Event

Sieghard,
I think you didn't see any messages about the presentation because it was 
boring.
That is, unless you are majorly into Mac computers, which I am not.
They actually did a comparison with what they called a high-end Compact PC to 
demonstrate the far better performance of the Mac laptop especially on battery 
life and overall speed and energy usage.
I heard no prices, but I was admittedly n