Re: Be My Eyes.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I've always had very good luck with the volunteers who have helped me.

On 12/15/21, Wendy Lin  wrote:
> I love Be My Eyes! It’s a very helpful and useful app! I’m sure I’ll use it
> a lot more if I were to live on my own but for now, I use it occasionally.
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>>
>> I use it several times a week and it’s great!
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Be My Eyes.
>>
>> No be my eyes is very much alive.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > > On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Be My Eyes.
>>
>> i thought Be My Eyes disappeared.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Jenny Bomareto 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:44 PM
>>> Subject: Be My Eyes.
>>>
>>> I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes
>>> isn’t making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding
>>> somebody to help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that
>>> would be resolved but it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be
>>> My Eyes twice and ask them. Meaning the volunteers.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
>>> Jenny Bomareto
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Be My Eyes.

[Wendy Lin]

I love Be My Eyes! It’s a very helpful and useful app! I’m sure I’ll use it a 
lot more if I were to live on my own but for now, I use it occasionally.


> On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> I use it several times a week and it’s great!
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Be My Eyes.
>  
> No be my eyes is very much alive.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Be My Eyes.
>  
> i thought Be My Eyes disappeared.
>  
> Andy
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Jenny Bomareto 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:44 PM
>> Subject: Be My Eyes.
>>  
>> I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes 
>> isn’t making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding 
>> somebody to help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that would 
>> be resolved but it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be My Eyes 
>> twice and ask them. Meaning the volunteers.
>> 
>> Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
>> Jenny Bomareto
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Be My Eyes.

[Paula Jordan]

I use it several times a week and it’s great!

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes.

 

No be my eyes is very much alive.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Be My Eyes.

 

i thought Be My Eyes disappeared.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jenny Bomareto   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:44 PM

Subject: Be My Eyes.

 

I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes isn’t 
making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding somebody to 
help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that would be resolved but 
it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be My Eyes twice and ask them. 
Meaning the volunteers.

Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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Re: Be My Eyes.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I don't use be my eyes that often, but it is a great app.  It is great
to know, that if I need to find out what an item is, someone is always
there to help me out.

On 12/15/21, llump...@austin.rr.com  wrote:
> No be my eyes is very much alive.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy
> Baracco
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Be My Eyes.
>
>
>
> i thought Be My Eyes disappeared.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Jenny Bomareto 
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:44 PM
>
> Subject: Be My Eyes.
>
>
>
> I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes
> isn’t making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding
> somebody to help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that would
> be resolved but it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be My Eyes
> twice and ask them. Meaning the volunteers.
>
> Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
> Jenny Bomareto
>
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Re: best calendar apps for iPhone

[Richard Turner]

After trying several, I am back on the native calendar app.
It has improved quite a bit in the last year or so.
It has custom repeat which Fantastical used to have before they started 
charging an arm and a leg.



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On Dec 15, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:


Hi, what are the best calendar apps for the iPhone?

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RE: best calendar apps for iPhone

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't know if it's the best or not, but I use the Calendar feature in the 
Outlook app. There's also the native Calendar app and the Google Calendar app.

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RE: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

[Dennis Long]

I would get an iPhone 13 pro.  I think you will be very happy.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Harshit 
Jaithwar
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

 

Hi all, thanks for your prompt replies and suggestions !

Well iPhone ex is not giving me any trouble and it can easily go for next 8 to 
9 months and due to Smart Chip global shortages and expected price rise of 
iPhone 14 and no expectations to bring any Ground breaking upgradation in 
iphone 14 for VO users, I think it will be better to buy iPhone 13 right away.  

 

Thank you once again to all of you for the replies!

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On 15-Dec-2021, at 8:50 PM, Michael Feir mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I actually made that decision and got an iPhone 13 a couple of months ago. The 
better performance and battery life were very tempting. I was also able to get 
the 512 gb version and thereby double my onboard storage space. The better 
camera has proven to be a much more appreciated improvement that I would ever 
have guessed given my total blindness.

Part of what decided me was my concern around price hikes and supply shortages 
over the next number of years. Particularly for those of us on fixed incomes, 
we're in for a rough stretch. Having as up to date a tool as I can afford 
seemed like a good idea. It does so many things in life that I'd hate to have 
the battery be worn out or some other thing go wrong when I might not be able 
to afford a replacement. My XR is still kept as a backup and is also helpful 
when I demonstrate apps while on Zoom calls among other things. The performance 
difference is certainly noticable between the two phones. However, it wouldn't 
be disasterous if I needed to send my new phone for repairs and use it as my 
main phone again. That wasn't the case for my iPhone 7 which I've given to a 
niece who wanted it. Going from a 7 to an XR, you really feel the difference. 
So many things, including VoiceOver, make heavy use of the AI neural engine. 
The XR with its A12 chip can still hang in there but I get the sense that its 
future as my backup might be two or three years at the very most.

 

On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:48 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

As Christopher already said, if you are unhappy with your phone, the 13 series 
are great phones.  If you are not in a hurry to change phones then wait the 8 
or 9 months to see what the 14 brings.  Then, you could buy a 13 at likely a 
slightly lower price if the 14 doesn’t offer that much over the 13.

The 13 has a much faster processer than the X you have now, and better cameras.

 

Are there particular aspects of the new phone that has you chomping at the bit?

 

 

 

 

Richard

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Harshit Jaithwar
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:16 AM
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Subject: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

 

Hi friends, currently I'm using iPhone X in very good condition and want to 
upgrade to the newest iPhone.
So, I should go for iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14, as reports suggest some 
major upgradation are expected in iPhone 14 but I felt these are all for 
sighted people and no reports suggesting anything new for blind or voice over 
user's perspective.
So, do you think I should wait or go for iPhone 13 only?

 

Your suggestion will be highly appreciable!




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Re: strange issue with outlook mail on iPhone

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Microsoft was having an outage only impacting #iOS it isn't just you. 
Hopefully a fix will be forth coming soon. Just wait it out and it 
should resolve shortly.


Take good care.

Robin


On 12/15/2021 9:37 PM, R Van Lant wrote:


/I just had an odd experience and wonder if any of you have faced 
this. My resolution is a work-around, not a true fix.   I have a 
primary Outlook email account that I sync to the native mail, calendar 
and contacts apps on my iPhone SE 2020 running IOS 15.1.   I also 
check this account via outlook on my laptop.  I have not changed the 
password for quite some time.  Suddenly tonight I got an error message 
when I opened my iPhone mail app saying that I needed to re-enter my 
password for this account and a secondary account that I recently 
added to my phone.  I followed the prompts to go to settings to enter 
the passwords.  The heading said that my account was not 
authenticated.   With both accounts, I attempted to enter my correct 
password, but it would come back with the same screen saying that my 
account was not authenticated.  I went to outlook.live.com on my 
laptop to validate that I was using the correct password and was, 
indeed, successful at logging into my account.  I tired one more time 
on my phone, but still was not able to authenticate.  Since the 
secondary email account is not really needed on my phone, I figured 
I’d just delete that account and not worry about that.  Oddly, once I 
did that my primary email account suddenly no longer needed to be 
authenticated and synced again.  All this happened within the last 90 
minutes, based on the time stamp for the previous email update.   I’m 
glad to have my primary email and such working, but bothered that I 
was not having success in authenticating.    Have any of you been 
prompted for passwords, even if you didn’t’ change it? Anything I 
could have been doing wrong? /


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RE: Be My Eyes.

[llumpkin]

No be my eyes is very much alive.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My Eyes.

 

i thought Be My Eyes disappeared.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jenny Bomareto   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:44 PM

Subject: Be My Eyes.

 

I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes isn’t 
making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding somebody to 
help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that would be resolved but 
it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be My Eyes twice and ask them. 
Meaning the volunteers.

Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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Re: Be My Eyes.

[Andy Baracco]

i thought Be My Eyes disappeared.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jenny Bomareto 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:44 PM
  Subject: Be My Eyes.


  I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes 
isn’t making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding somebody 
to help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that would be resolved 
but it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be My Eyes twice and ask 
them. Meaning the volunteers.


  Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
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Re: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

[Harshit Jaithwar]

Hi all, thanks for your prompt replies and suggestions !
Well iPhone ex is not giving me any trouble and it can easily go for next 8 to 
9 months and due to Smart Chip global shortages and expected price rise of 
iPhone 14 and no expectations to bring any Ground breaking upgradation in 
iphone 14 for VO users, I think it will be better to buy iPhone 13 right away.  

Thank you once again to all of you for the replies!


Sent from my iPhone

> On 15-Dec-2021, at 8:50 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> 
> I actually made that decision and got an iPhone 13 a couple of months ago. 
> The better performance and battery life were very tempting. I was also able 
> to get the 512 gb version and thereby double my onboard storage space. The 
> better camera has proven to be a much more appreciated improvement that I 
> would ever have guessed given my total blindness.
> Part of what decided me was my concern around price hikes and supply 
> shortages over the next number of years. Particularly for those of us on 
> fixed incomes, we're in for a rough stretch. Having as up to date a tool as I 
> can afford seemed like a good idea. It does so many things in life that I'd 
> hate to have the battery be worn out or some other thing go wrong when I 
> might not be able to afford a replacement. My XR is still kept as a backup 
> and is also helpful when I demonstrate apps while on Zoom calls among other 
> things. The performance difference is certainly noticable between the two 
> phones. However, it wouldn't be disasterous if I needed to send my new phone 
> for repairs and use it as my main phone again. That wasn't the case for my 
> iPhone 7 which I've given to a niece who wanted it. Going from a 7 to an XR, 
> you really feel the difference. So many things, including VoiceOver, make 
> heavy use of the AI neural engine. The XR with its A12 chip can still hang in 
> there but I get the sense that its future as my backup might be two or three 
> years at the very most.
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:48 AM Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> As Christopher already said, if you are unhappy with your phone, the 13 
>> series are great phones.  If you are not in a hurry to change phones then 
>> wait the 8 or 9 months to see what the 14 brings.  Then, you could buy a 13 
>> at likely a slightly lower price if the 14 doesn’t offer that much over the 
>> 13.
>> 
>> The 13 has a much faster processer than the X you have now, and better 
>> cameras.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Are there particular aspects of the new phone that has you chomping at the 
>> bit?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dr. 
>> Harshit Jaithwar
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:16 AM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi friends, currently I'm using iPhone X in very good condition and want to 
>> upgrade to the newest iPhone.
>> So, I should go for iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14, as reports suggest some 
>> major upgradation are expected in iPhone 14 but I felt these are all for 
>> sighted people and no reports suggesting anything new for blind or voice 
>> over user's perspective.
>> So, do you think I should wait or go for iPhone 13 only?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Your suggestion will be highly appreciable!
>> 
>> 
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strange issue with outlook mail on iPhone

[R Van Lant]

I just had an odd experience and wonder if any of you have faced this. My 
resolution is a work-around, not a true fix.   I have a primary Outlook email 
account that I sync to the native mail, calendar and contacts apps on my iPhone 
SE 2020 running IOS 15.1.   I also check this account via outlook on my laptop. 
 I have not changed the password for quite some time.  Suddenly tonight I got 
an error message when I opened my iPhone mail app saying that I needed to 
re-enter my password for this account and a secondary account that I recently 
added to my phone.  I followed the prompts to go to settings to enter the 
passwords.  The heading said that my account was not authenticated.   With both 
accounts, I attempted to enter my correct password, but it would come back with 
the same screen saying that my account was not authenticated.  I went to 
outlook.live.com on my laptop to validate that I was using the correct password 
and was, indeed, successful at logging into my account.  I tired one more time 
on my phone, but still was not able to authenticate.  Since the secondary email 
account is not really needed on my phone, I figured I'd just delete that 
account and not worry about that.  Oddly, once I did that my primary email 
account suddenly no longer needed to be authenticated and synced again.  All 
this happened within the last 90 minutes, based on the time stamp for the 
previous email update.   I'm glad to have my primary email and such working, 
but bothered that I was not having success in authenticating.Have any of 
you been prompted for passwords, even if you didn't' change it?  Anything I 
could have been doing wrong?


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RE: Be My Eyes.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Check if you have "Change with buttons" turne don, this is in Settings > 
Sounds, maybe it's just your volume that is turned down.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: December 15, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Be My Eyes.

I had the sound where I could hear the prior to updating so then can someone 
tell me where I have to go on my phone in settings to get the sound back on? 
Also when I’m on the phone the person on the other end it’s not as loud as it 
was before either and the volume is on 60%. And then like say for ringing it’s 
at 87%
Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Be My Eyes.

[Jenny Bomareto]

I had the sound where I could hear the prior to updating so then can someone 
tell me where I have to go on my phone in settings to get the sound back on? 
Also when I’m on the phone the person on the other end it’s not as loud as it 
was before either and the volume is on 60%. And then like say for ringing it’s 
at 87%

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Jenny Bomareto

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Re: Be My Eyes.

[Richard Turner]

I just used Be My Eyes with iOS 15.2 and the sound worked fine.
It is not the update that messed you up if the sound was a problem in 15.1.
It's your settings.,


Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Dec 15, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
 wrote:

 I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes 
isn’t making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding somebody 
to help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that would be resolved 
but it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be My Eyes twice and ask 
them. Meaning the volunteers.

Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Be My Eyes.

[Jenny Bomareto]

I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes isn’t 
making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding somebody to 
help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that would be resolved but 
it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be My Eyes twice and ask them. 
Meaning the volunteers.

Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Richard Turner]

Well, I know it is easy to be a bit jaded at this point, but since I was making 
a weather request, that logically has to access the servers.
The onboard things like simply asking for the battery life is fixed in 5.2.
I have not thoroughly tested the request that are clearly onboard the phone 
yet, but I suspect they are significantly improved, at least, I choose to 
believe that until I hear otherwise.

But I have to say in the past, if the issue resolved itself, the Apple 
Accessibility would basically blow it off.

Now, they are actually following up.






Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

A bit ironic since they have been aware of reduced functionality for a long 
time; there was even a mainstream news article I think last week on CBC News 
about this.
Of course they would say that this is of the upmost importance to them and 
maybe for the accessibility team it is, but whether it is for the Siri team 
that is a different story and in large organisations like Apple, Microsoft, 
Google etc. there are many teams working on different aspects of a particular 
product or service and there is sometimes extreme competition happening.
Anyways, I thought most of the Siri requests are supposed to be handled on the 
device now and not so much in the cloud and on servers any more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: December 15, 2021 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a note 
to Apple accessibility.
Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they are 
prioritizing accessibility.
Hello Richard,

We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did include 
many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it seems that 
some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. But any 
reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being immediately 
escalated and investigated.


Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, I 
cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would 
state my conclusion about this.

That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
mood, whatever you want to call it.
Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, 
for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone 
and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot 
talk to itself.

I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it while 
the phone was locked.
Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the phone 
was locked.

So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
little annoying when it doesn’t.

But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes 
later it probably can.




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RE: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Sieghard Weitzel]

A bit ironic since they have been aware of reduced functionality for a long 
time; there was even a mainstream news article I think last week on CBC News 
about this.
Of course they would say that this is of the upmost importance to them and 
maybe for the accessibility team it is, but whether it is for the Siri team 
that is a different story and in large organisations like Apple, Microsoft, 
Google etc. there are many teams working on different aspects of a particular 
product or service and there is sometimes extreme competition happening.
Anyways, I thought most of the Siri requests are supposed to be handled on the 
device now and not so much in the cloud and on servers any more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: December 15, 2021 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a note 
to Apple accessibility.
Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they are 
prioritizing accessibility.
Hello Richard,

We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did include 
many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it seems that 
some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. But any 
reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being immediately 
escalated and investigated.


Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, I 
cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would 
state my conclusion about this.

That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
mood, whatever you want to call it.
Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, 
for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone 
and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot 
talk to itself.

I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it while 
the phone was locked.
Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the phone 
was locked.

So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
little annoying when it doesn’t.

But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes 
later it probably can.




Richard
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Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Dan Yates]

Mini thanks Richard!
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a 
> note to Apple accessibility.
> Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they 
> are prioritizing accessibility.
> Hello Richard,
> 
> We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did 
> include many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it 
> seems that some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. 
> But any reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being 
> immediately escalated and investigated.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, 
>> Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought 
>> I would state my conclusion about this.
>>  
>> That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
>> mood, whatever you want to call it. 
>> Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that 
>> still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using 
>> your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when 
>> it cannot talk to itself.
>>  
>> I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it 
>> while the phone was locked.
>> Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the 
>> phone was locked.
>>  
>> So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
>> little annoying when it doesn’t.
>>  
>> But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few 
>> minutes later it probably can.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>>  
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Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Richard Turner]

sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a note 
to Apple accessibility.
Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they are 
prioritizing accessibility.
Hello Richard,

We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did include 
many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it seems that 
some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. But any 
reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being immediately 
escalated and investigated.


Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, I 
cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would 
state my conclusion about this.

That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
mood, whatever you want to call it.
Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, 
for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone 
and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot 
talk to itself.

I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it while 
the phone was locked.
Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the phone 
was locked.

So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
little annoying when it doesn’t.

But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes 
later it probably can.




Richard
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Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Dan Yates]

Well, I’ll just say that Siri seems to have good days and bad days. The good 
does outweigh the bad so I will refrain from carrying on about it lol
Dan

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> On Dec 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> ain't that the truth! Esther P. S. So far, I am not having trouble with 
> Siri. I better not see any more because he might jinx me! Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, 
>> Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought 
>> I would state my conclusion about this.
>>  
>> That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
>> mood, whatever you want to call it. 
>> Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that 
>> still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using 
>> your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when 
>> it cannot talk to itself.
>>  
>> I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it 
>> while the phone was locked.
>> Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the 
>> phone was locked.
>>  
>> So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
>> little annoying when it doesn’t.
>>  
>> But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few 
>> minutes later it probably can.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
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Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Esther Levegnale]

ain't that the truth! Esther P. S. So far, I am not having trouble with Siri. I 
better not see any more because he might jinx me! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Dec 15, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, 
> I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would 
> state my conclusion about this.
>  
> That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
> mood, whatever you want to call it. 
> Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, 
> for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone 
> and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot 
> talk to itself.
>  
> I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it 
> while the phone was locked.
> Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the 
> phone was locked.
>  
> So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
> little annoying when it doesn’t.
>  
> But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes 
> later it probably can.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
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Re: Since I updated to iOS 15.1.

[Kimberly]

I had this very same problem under 15.1. I updated yesterday to the latest iOS 
release and it seems to have fixed it.

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> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:10 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
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> When I receive a text message I don’t get no sound. I went into settings to 
> make sure sounds was on and it shows it’s on and when I went into messages 
> all that stuff is turned on except for like the stuff that talks about 
> pictures. Since obviously we cannot see that.
> 
> Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
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Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Richard Turner]

Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, I 
cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would 
state my conclusion about this.

That message appears because Siri's servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
mood, whatever you want to call it.
Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, 
for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone 
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talk to itself.

I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it while 
the phone was locked.
Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the phone 
was locked.

So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
little annoying when it doesn't.

But, it ain't worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes 
later it probably can.




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RE: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

[Richard Turner]

877-204-3930 24/7 Apple Accessibility.




Richard
"One can't be angry when one looks at a penguin." ~ John Ruskin

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

It is asking me to keep or delete and it's talking about long press on widgets. 
I need to make a choice before it lets me out. I'm not sure what I'm keeping or 
deleting, the option to long press?


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

You are likely in the Today view, or the app library.
Reboot, and see if you can come back to the home screen.
Also try telling Siri, "go to the home screen."

Updating did not cause this.
I've updated several devices with no issues at all.




Richard
"One can't be angry when one looks at a penguin." ~ John Ruskin

My web site; 
https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

I just updated my mini IPad to 15.2 and no longer have access to my home 
screen. All I can get is  widgets with a keep or delete option and the weather. 
How can I get my home screen back and will this happen on my older SE phone 
when I update that as well?

Thanks.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 6:31 PM
Subject: FW: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

Apple Releases iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2; Bringing Apple Music Voice Plan, App 
Privacy Report, New Safety Features, and Bug Fixes
Submitted by AppleVis on Monday, December 13, 2021.
[Member of the AppleVis Editorial Team]

Apple has today released iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 to the public.

Our experience is that the following accessibility bugs have been resolved or 
significantly addressed in iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2:

  *   "Hey Siri" appears to now work as expected when your device is 
locked.
  *   if you have Safari configured so that its address bar is at the top of 
the screen, you can once again use a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display's 
keyboard to enter text in to the address 
bar.
  *   When using the emoji search facility to find and insert an emoji in to a 
text field, when you double-tap on the desired emoji VoiceOver once again 
announces the bane of the emoji that's been inserted rather than announcing the 
last character that you 
typed.
  *   When using drag and drop to rearrange the position of a shortcut in the 
Shortcuts app, VoiceOver once again provides meaningful feedback whilst 
dragging regarding where the shortcut will be placed when 

Re: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

[Vicki W.]

It is asking me to keep or delete and it's talking about long press on widgets. 
I need to make a choice before it lets me out. I'm not sure what I'm keeping or 
deleting, the option to long press?


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 11:56 AM
  Subject: RE: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog


  You are likely in the Today view, or the app library.

  Reboot, and see if you can come back to the home screen.

  Also try telling Siri, “go to the home screen.”

   

  Updating did not cause this.

  I’ve updated several devices with no issues at all.

   

   

   

   

  Richard

  “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

   

  My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 10:46 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

   

  I just updated my mini IPad to 15.2 and no longer have access to my home 
screen. All I can get is  widgets with a keep or delete option and the weather. 
How can I get my home screen back and will this happen on my older SE phone 
when I update that as well?

   

  Thanks.

   

  Vicki

   

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 6:31 PM

Subject: FW: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis 
blog

 

Apple Releases iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2; Bringing Apple Music Voice Plan, 
App Privacy Report, New Safety Features, and Bug Fixes
Submitted by AppleVis on Monday, December 13, 2021.



Apple has today released iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 to the public.

Our experience is that the following accessibility bugs have been resolved 
or significantly addressed in iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2:

  a.. “Hey Siri” appears to now work as expected when your device is 
locked. 
  b.. if you have Safari configured so that its address bar is at the top 
of the screen, you can once again use a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display's 
keyboard to enter text in to the address bar. 
  c.. When using the emoji search facility to find and insert an emoji in 
to a text field, when you double-tap on the desired emoji VoiceOver once again 
announces the bane of the emoji that's been inserted rather than announcing the 
last character that you typed. 
  d.. When using drag and drop to rearrange the position of a shortcut in 
the Shortcuts app, VoiceOver once again provides meaningful feedback whilst 
dragging regarding where the shortcut will be placed when dropped. 
  e.. On the Power Off / Medical ID / Emergency Call screen, VoiceOver no 
longer finds and speaks erroneous UI elements if invoked when you have an open 
app in the foreground. 
  f.. When using the Mantis braille display and changing the rotor setting 
with up and left or up and right arrow, speech will no longer unmute itself if 
muted.
At the time of writing we are unaware of any new bugs or regressions for 
blind and low vision users in these releases.

As we always stress, we can make no claims on the completeness or accuracy 
of our testing. We are only a small team, and it is simply impossible for us to 
test all devices, configurations, applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to 
help us ensure that the information on this page is as complete and accurate as 
possible, please let us know in the comments of any additional fixes; 
enhancements; or regressions that you find in your own use of iOS 15.2 and 
iPadOS 15.2.

iOS 15.2 Release Notes
  iOS 15.2 adds Apple Music Voice Plan, a new subscription tier that 
provides access to music using Siri. This update also includes the App Privacy 
Report, new safety features for children and parents in Messages, and other 
features and bug fixes for your iPhone.

  Apple Music Voice Plan

a.. Apple Music Voice Plan is a new subscription tier that gives you 
access to all songs, playlists, and stations in Apple Music using Siri 
b.. Just Ask Siri suggests music based on your listening history and 
likes or dislikes 
c.. Play it Again lets you access a list of your recently played music
  Privacy

a.. App Privacy Report in Settings lets you see how often apps have 
accessed your location, photos, camera, microphone, contacts and more during 
the last seven days, as well as their network activity
  Messages

a.. Communication safety setting gives parents the ability to enable 
warnings for children when they receive or send photos that contain nudity 
b.. Safety warnings contain helpful resources for children when they 
receive photos that contain nudity
  Siri and Search

a.. Expanded guidance in Siri, Spotlight, and Safari Search to help 
children 

RE: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Turn it off completely and back on again after 30 seconds or so, usually that 
fixes any strange after-update issues.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: December 15, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

I just updated my mini IPad to 15.2 and no longer have access to my home 
screen. All I can get is  widgets with a keep or delete option and the weather. 
How can I get my home screen back and will this happen on my older SE phone 
when I update that as well?

Thanks.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 6:31 PM
Subject: FW: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

Apple Releases iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2; Bringing Apple Music Voice Plan, App 
Privacy Report, New Safety Features, and Bug Fixes
Submitted by AppleVis on Monday, December 13, 2021.
[Member of the AppleVis Editorial Team]

Apple has today released iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 to the public.

Our experience is that the following accessibility bugs have been resolved or 
significantly addressed in iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2:

  *   “Hey Siri” appears to now work as expected when your device is 
locked.
  *   if you have Safari configured so that its address bar is at the top of 
the screen, you can once again use a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display's 
keyboard to enter text in to the address 
bar.
  *   When using the emoji search facility to find and insert an emoji in to a 
text field, when you double-tap on the desired emoji VoiceOver once again 
announces the bane of the emoji that's been inserted rather than announcing the 
last character that you 
typed.
  *   When using drag and drop to rearrange the position of a shortcut in the 
Shortcuts app, VoiceOver once again provides meaningful feedback whilst 
dragging regarding where the shortcut will be placed when 
dropped.
  *   On the Power Off / Medical ID / Emergency Call screen, VoiceOver no 
longer finds and speaks erroneous UI elements if invoked when you have an open 
app in the 
foreground.
  *   When using the Mantis braille display and changing the rotor setting with 
up and left or up and right arrow, speech will no longer unmute itself if 

RE: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

[Richard Turner]

You are likely in the Today view, or the app library.
Reboot, and see if you can come back to the home screen.
Also try telling Siri, "go to the home screen."

Updating did not cause this.
I've updated several devices with no issues at all.




Richard
"One can't be angry when one looks at a penguin." ~ John Ruskin

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

I just updated my mini IPad to 15.2 and no longer have access to my home 
screen. All I can get is  widgets with a keep or delete option and the weather. 
How can I get my home screen back and will this happen on my older SE phone 
when I update that as well?

Thanks.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 6:31 PM
Subject: FW: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

Apple Releases iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2; Bringing Apple Music Voice Plan, App 
Privacy Report, New Safety Features, and Bug Fixes
Submitted by AppleVis on Monday, December 13, 2021.
[Member of the AppleVis Editorial Team]

Apple has today released iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 to the public.

Our experience is that the following accessibility bugs have been resolved or 
significantly addressed in iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2:

  *   "Hey Siri" appears to now work as expected when your device is 
locked.
  *   if you have Safari configured so that its address bar is at the top of 
the screen, you can once again use a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display's 
keyboard to enter text in to the address 
bar.
  *   When using the emoji search facility to find and insert an emoji in to a 
text field, when you double-tap on the desired emoji VoiceOver once again 
announces the bane of the emoji that's been inserted rather than announcing the 
last character that you 
typed.
  *   When using drag and drop to rearrange the position of a shortcut in the 
Shortcuts app, VoiceOver once again provides meaningful feedback whilst 
dragging regarding where the shortcut will be placed when 
dropped.
  *   On the Power Off / Medical ID / Emergency Call screen, VoiceOver no 
longer finds and speaks erroneous UI elements if invoked when you have an open 
app in the 
foreground.
  *   When using the Mantis braille display and changing the rotor setting with 
up and left or up and right arrow, speech will no longer unmute itself if 

Re: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog

[Vicki W.]

I just updated my mini IPad to 15.2 and no longer have access to my home 
screen. All I can get is  widgets with a keep or delete option and the weather. 
How can I get my home screen back and will this happen on my older SE phone 
when I update that as well?

Thanks.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 6:31 PM
  Subject: FW: iOs 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 released, article from the AppleVis blog


  Apple Releases iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2; Bringing Apple Music Voice Plan, App 
Privacy Report, New Safety Features, and Bug Fixes
  Submitted by AppleVis on Monday, December 13, 2021.



  Apple has today released iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 to the public.

  Our experience is that the following accessibility bugs have been resolved or 
significantly addressed in iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2:

a.. “Hey Siri” appears to now work as expected when your device is locked.
b.. if you have Safari configured so that its address bar is at the top of 
the screen, you can once again use a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display's 
keyboard to enter text in to the address bar.
c.. When using the emoji search facility to find and insert an emoji in to 
a text field, when you double-tap on the desired emoji VoiceOver once again 
announces the bane of the emoji that's been inserted rather than announcing the 
last character that you typed.
d.. When using drag and drop to rearrange the position of a shortcut in the 
Shortcuts app, VoiceOver once again provides meaningful feedback whilst 
dragging regarding where the shortcut will be placed when dropped.
e.. On the Power Off / Medical ID / Emergency Call screen, VoiceOver no 
longer finds and speaks erroneous UI elements if invoked when you have an open 
app in the foreground.
f.. When using the Mantis braille display and changing the rotor setting 
with up and left or up and right arrow, speech will no longer unmute itself if 
muted.
  At the time of writing we are unaware of any new bugs or regressions for 
blind and low vision users in these releases.

  As we always stress, we can make no claims on the completeness or accuracy of 
our testing. We are only a small team, and it is simply impossible for us to 
test all devices, configurations, applications, and use cases. Accordingly, to 
help us ensure that the information on this page is as complete and accurate as 
possible, please let us know in the comments of any additional fixes; 
enhancements; or regressions that you find in your own use of iOS 15.2 and 
iPadOS 15.2.

  iOS 15.2 Release Notes
iOS 15.2 adds Apple Music Voice Plan, a new subscription tier that provides 
access to music using Siri. This update also includes the App Privacy Report, 
new safety features for children and parents in Messages, and other features 
and bug fixes for your iPhone.

Apple Music Voice Plan

  a.. Apple Music Voice Plan is a new subscription tier that gives you 
access to all songs, playlists, and stations in Apple Music using Siri
  b.. Just Ask Siri suggests music based on your listening history and 
likes or dislikes
  c.. Play it Again lets you access a list of your recently played music
Privacy

  a.. App Privacy Report in Settings lets you see how often apps have 
accessed your location, photos, camera, microphone, contacts and more during 
the last seven days, as well as their network activity
Messages

  a.. Communication safety setting gives parents the ability to enable 
warnings for children when they receive or send photos that contain nudity
  b.. Safety warnings contain helpful resources for children when they 
receive photos that contain nudity
Siri and Search

  a.. Expanded guidance in Siri, Spotlight, and Safari Search to help 
children and parents stay safe online and get help with unsafe situations
Apple ID

  a.. Digital Legacy allows you to designate people as Legacy Contacts so 
they can access your iCloud account and personal information in the event of 
your death
Camera

  a.. Macro photo control for switching to the Ultra Wide lens to capture 
macro photos and videos can be enabled in Settings on iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 
13 Pro Max
TV app

  a.. Store tab lets you browse, buy, and rent movies and TV Shows all in 
one place
CarPlay

  a.. Enhanced city map in Apple Maps with road details like turn lanes, 
medians, bike lanes, and pedestrian crosswalks for supported cities
This release also includes the following enhancements for your iPhone:

  a.. Hide My Email is available in the Mail app for iCloud+ subscribers to 
create unique, random email addresses
  b.. Find My can locate iPhone for up to five hours when in Power Reserve
  c.. Stocks allows you to view the currency for a ticker and see 
year-to-date performance when viewing charts
  d.. Reminders and Notes now allow you to delete or rename tags
   

RE: Since I updated to iOS 15.1.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Where exactly do you go to check that Sounds are enabled?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: December 15, 2021 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Since I updated to iOS 15.1.

When I receive a text message I don’t get no sound. I went into settings to 
make sure sounds was on and it shows it’s on and when I went into messages all 
that stuff is turned on except for like the stuff that talks about pictures. 
Since obviously we cannot see that.
Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Since I updated to iOS 15.1.

[Richard Turner]

Are you talking about your settings under notifications, Messages?
I've never had an issue with receiving the message sounds when a new text 
message comes in.
I am on 15.2 now, and they work as always.

Check that Do Not Disturb is not on and make sure the phone mute switch is not 
on.
Otherwise, you may need to call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen 
share to see if they can identify what is going on.


Richard
"One can't be angry when one looks at a penguin." ~ John Ruskin

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Since I updated to iOS 15.1.

When I receive a text message I don't get no sound. I went into settings to 
make sure sounds was on and it shows it's on and when I went into messages all 
that stuff is turned on except for like the stuff that talks about pictures. 
Since obviously we cannot see that.
Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone
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Since I updated to iOS 15.1.

[Jenny Bomareto]

When I receive a text message I don’t get no sound. I went into settings to 
make sure sounds was on and it shows it’s on and when I went into messages all 
that stuff is turned on except for like the stuff that talks about pictures. 
Since obviously we cannot see that.

Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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For the Canadians on the list: First-of-its-kind box uses braille to make finding your favourite chocolate accessible to the blind community

[Richard Turner]

Link to the web article is at the end.
Purdys Braille Holiday Box

The box features braille orientation tabs, a braille chocolate legend and a QR 
code that brings users who are blind or partially sighted to an accessible 
screen reader version of the legend.
"The braille on the Purdys box is about more than accessibility, it's about 
inclusion. It's about feeling seen, heard, and cared about as a consumer and 
frankly, as a person," says Molly Burke, a leading digital creator in the blind 
and partially sighted community. "Imagine going 27 years without being able to 
pick your own chocolates without the help of another person or technology, 
that's been my life until now. This is more than a box of chocolates, it's the 
sign of change."
To spread the joy even further, the full Purdys legend is also available in the 
10 most spoken languages in Canada (English, French, Spanish, Italian, German, 
Mandarin, Cantonese, Punjabi, Tagalog and Arabic). The multilanguage legend is 
available to view at 
www.purdys.com/chocolate-legend.
Purdys has also made a $10,000 CAD donation to the CNIB Foundation through 
Purple Partnerships, their philanthropic initiative.
The Holiday Braille Box will be available again to buy online at purdys.com 
from December 15, 2021 or at select shops across Canada starting December 22, 
2021.
Purdys shop locations that stock the Holiday Braille Box:
British Columbia:
Pacific Centre
Park Royal Shopping Centre
Coquitlam Centre
Guildford Town Centre
Hillside Shopping Centre
Woodgrove Centre
Orchard Park Shopping Centre
Village Green Shopping Centre
Alberta:
Southcentre Mall
Chinook Centre
Southgate Centre
Manitoba:
Polo Park
Ontario:
Oakville Place
Mapleview Centre
Oshawa Centre
Rideau Centre
Carlingwood Shopping Centre
Toronto Eaton Centre
About Purdys Chocolatier

As Canada's chocolatier since 1907, Purdys crafts delicious confections to go 
with everyday smiles, joyous celebrations and lifetimes of memories. Their 
commitment to quality ensures that every treat is made with sustainable cocoa- 
helping not only their farmer partners but also protecting our planet. 
Community is at the heart of Purdys, and together with their Purple 
Partnerships initiative and Seasonal Fundraising Program, they find 
opportunities to support, advocate and craft more kindness.
SOURCE Purdys Chocolatier
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For further information: Media Contacts: Kriston Dean - VP of Sales and 
Marketing, Purdys Chocolatier, 
kristo...@purdys.com, Cell: 604-209-0959





First-of-its-kind box uses braille to make finding your favourite chocolate 
accessible to the blind 
community:https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/first-of-its-kind-box-uses-braille-to-make-finding-your-favourite-chocolate-accessible-to-the-blind-community-836477077.html

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RE: Home button [was "RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions"]

[Carolyn]

I most definitely agree with that, Christopher. 

I am totally blind and was 82, when I got my phone without a home button, had 
not the first problem at all. I studied what Rita Howels posted on another 
list, just read over and over it, and it penetrated my brain. My husband was 
astonished. I really would not want another phone with a home button now. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Home button [was "RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions"]

For those who don't have any experience with an iPhone that doesn't have a home 
button, and who may be skeptical about getting an iPhone without a home button, 
I'd just like to share my experience from earlier today. I was in the waiting 
room while my wife was having a medical procedure done, and I was constantly 
going back and forth between my person iPhone 11 and my employer's iPhone 7, 
and I realized that all things being equal, I definitely prefer a phone without 
a home button. Note that having a home button wouldn't be a deal breaker with 
me, I just found it so much easier finding things in my dock or up in the 
status bar without having to worry about that space you lose with the home 
button. Plus I think it makes braille screen input a lot easier as well. If 
people have experience with both, and prefer a phone with a home button, then 
that's great, but if you're skeptical about getting a phone without a home 
button then I'd really suggest you give it a go before deciding that you prefer 
a phone with a home button. That's just my $0.02.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi,

The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7, The 12 range and the 13 range don't 
have home buttons but you can set the power button to switch voiceover off / on,

But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 2020 
which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the iPHone 
7 And work as you would know your current phone does.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

[Michael Feir]

I actually made that decision and got an iPhone 13 a couple of months ago.
The better performance and battery life were very tempting. I was also able
to get the 512 gb version and thereby double my onboard storage space. The
better camera has proven to be a much more appreciated improvement that I
would ever have guessed given my total blindness.
Part of what decided me was my concern around price hikes and supply
shortages over the next number of years. Particularly for those of us on
fixed incomes, we're in for a rough stretch. Having as up to date a tool as
I can afford seemed like a good idea. It does so many things in life that
I'd hate to have the battery be worn out or some other thing go wrong when
I might not be able to afford a replacement. My XR is still kept as a
backup and is also helpful when I demonstrate apps while on Zoom calls
among other things. The performance difference is certainly noticable
between the two phones. However, it wouldn't be disasterous if I needed to
send my new phone for repairs and use it as my main phone again. That
wasn't the case for my iPhone 7 which I've given to a niece who wanted it.
Going from a 7 to an XR, you really feel the difference. So many things,
including VoiceOver, make heavy use of the AI neural engine. The XR with
its A12 chip can still hang in there but I get the sense that its future as
my backup might be two or three years at the very most.

On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:48 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> As Christopher already said, if you are unhappy with your phone, the 13
> series are great phones.  If you are not in a hurry to change phones then
> wait the 8 or 9 months to see what the 14 brings.  Then, you could buy a 13
> at likely a slightly lower price if the 14 doesn’t offer that much over the
> 13.
>
> The 13 has a much faster processer than the X you have now, and better
> cameras.
>
>
>
> Are there particular aspects of the new phone that has you chomping at the
> bit?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>
>
>
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Dr. Harshit Jaithwar
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:16 AM
> *To:* viphone 
>
> *Subject:* Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14
>
>
>
> Hi friends, currently I'm using iPhone X in very good condition and want
> to upgrade to the newest iPhone.
> So, I should go for iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14, as reports suggest
> some major upgradation are expected in iPhone 14 but I felt these are all
> for sighted people and no reports suggesting anything new for blind or
> voice over user's perspective.
> So, do you think I should wait or go for iPhone 13 only?
>
>
>
> Your suggestion will be highly appreciable!
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

[Richard Turner]

As Christopher already said, if you are unhappy with your phone, the 13 series 
are great phones.  If you are not in a hurry to change phones then wait the 8 
or 9 months to see what the 14 brings.  Then, you could buy a 13 at likely a 
slightly lower price if the 14 doesn't offer that much over the 13.
The 13 has a much faster processer than the X you have now, and better cameras.

Are there particular aspects of the new phone that has you chomping at the bit?




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dr. 
Harshit Jaithwar
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:16 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

Hi friends, currently I'm using iPhone X in very good condition and want to 
upgrade to the newest iPhone.
So, I should go for iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14, as reports suggest some 
major upgradation are expected in iPhone 14 but I felt these are all for 
sighted people and no reports suggesting anything new for blind or voice over 
user's perspective.
So, do you think I should wait or go for iPhone 13 only?

Your suggestion will be highly appreciable!

Sent from my iPhone



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RE: mirroring the iPhone?

[Richard Turner]

Mirroring the iPhone sadly has nothing to do with deleting text messages.
Theoretically, if you are set up properly in iCloud on both the phone and the 
watch, it should behave the way you want.  I personally do not bother with text 
messages on my watch, so beyond the theory, I cannot help.
However, 877-204-3930 Apple Accessibility very likely could answer this in 
fairly short order.

HTH,



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mirroring the iPhone?

Hi all,
I am tired of having to delete my text messages and phone messages from both 
the watch and iPhone.  I seem to recall seeing mirror iPhone or something to 
that effect, in a couple of different places.  Can someone tell me what I need 
to do to get this to quit?  If I delete one, I would like the other place to be 
deleted as well.  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Re: mirroring the iPhone?

[Kathy Blackburn]

I looked at the choices under notifications in the watch app,  and the way I read things, you are given the opportunity to choose which apps' notifications appear on both devices. Mirroring apparently means allowing the notifications to appear on both devices, but this does not mean that clearing a notification from one device will remove it from the other. 
Kathy Blackburn
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On Dec 15, 2021 6:53 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:Hi,Open the watch app, swipe down to notifications & tap, swipe down to Mirror iPhone or something similar named. Below this you can choose which notifications from which apps appear on your watch. Donna






Hi all,
I am tired of having to delete my text messages and 
phone messages from both the watch and iPhone.  I seem to recall seeing 
mirror iPhone or something to that effect, in a couple of different 
places.  Can someone tell me what I need to do to get this to quit?  
If I delete one, I would like the other place to be deleted as well.  
Thanks for any help.
Kay Malmquistkay.malmquist@gmail.com
 
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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[chrisjudge1967]

This will only work the first time you use the phone during set up unless you 
have set the accessibility shortcut under accessibility settings.


Chris Judge


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Sent: December 14, 2021 7:39 PM
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Press side button three times to turn VoiceOver off and on. 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:09 PM
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Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

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Re: mirroring the iPhone?

[Donna Casteen]

Hi,

Open the watch app, swipe down to notifications & tap, swipe down to Mirror 
iPhone or something similar named. Below this you can choose which 
notifications from which apps appear on your watch. 

Donna

> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I am tired of having to delete my text messages and phone messages from both 
> the watch and iPhone.  I seem to recall seeing mirror iPhone or something to 
> that effect, in a couple of different places.  Can someone tell me what I 
> need to do to get this to quit?  If I delete one, I would like the other 
> place to be deleted as well.  Thanks for any help.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
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RE: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

[Christopher Chaltain]

IMHO, that depends on how unhappy you are with your iPhone X. You can get an 
iPhone 13 now, but you'll need to wait eight months to get an iPhone 14. Are 
you willing to lose that 8 months you could be using an iPhone 13 to wait for 
an iPhone 14 where we only have rumors on what it's going to have for new 
features? I can't answer that for anyone else but myself.

For me personally, if you're unhappy with the phone you have then I would never 
wait. My wife, who's sighted, moved up from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 12 this 
past summer. Sure she could have waited a couple of months to see what the 
iPhone 13 had to offer, but that was another couple of months she'd have to put 
up with a phone she wasn't happy with. Sure, she could have saved a few dollars 
by waiting or gotten a phone with another year of updates, but IMHO, there's 
just not enough of a delta from one phone to the next to justify waiting if it 
means holding on to a phone you're not happy with. On the other hand, if I had 
an iPhone X then I wouldn't be rushing out to get an iPhone 13 right now, but I 
tend to hold on to my phones until they stop receiving updates or I just get 
frustrated with their performance as compared to the latest and greatest. I 
have an iPhone 11 right now, and I'm not tempted to consider moving up to the 
13, and I doubt I'll be interested in the 14 either.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dr. 
Harshit Jaithwar
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 6:16 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

Hi friends, currently I'm using iPhone X in very good condition and want to 
upgrade to the newest iPhone.
So, I should go for iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14, as reports suggest some 
major upgradation are expected in iPhone 14 but I felt these are all for 
sighted people and no reports suggesting anything new for blind or voice over 
user's perspective.
So, do you think I should wait or go for iPhone 13 only?

Your suggestion will be highly appreciable!

Sent from my iPhone



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Buying iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14

[Dr. Harshit Jaithwar]

Hi friends, currently I'm using iPhone X in very good condition and want to
upgrade to the newest iPhone.
So, I should go for iPhone 13 or wait for iPhone 14, as reports suggest
some major upgradation are expected in iPhone 14 but I felt these are all
for sighted people and no reports suggesting anything new for blind or
voice over user's perspective.
So, do you think I should wait or go for iPhone 13 only?

Your suggestion will be highly appreciable!

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

[Simon A Fogarty]

TheUE boom 2 has a microphone and you can use it to talk to others from calls 
on the phone et ,

The wonder boom which is smaller than the boom doesn’t have a microphone in it,

 That is the wonder boom,

Yes the roam when on Bluetooth cuts some of the features out,

 Amazon alexa / goole home are stod\pped 
So possibly that is why it's not working for you.

As for calls,
I'm yet to try that out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 7:38 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

I don't think you can make voice calls with a Sonos Roam; in fact while Alexa 
works well on any Sonos speaker, the ability to use the Alexa Intercom 
functionality or to make phone calls is blocked somehow. I don't know why this 
is, but unless something changed very recently it is not possible.
Also, my Wanderboom 2 does not have a microphone, it is strictly a Bluetooth 
speaker. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: December 14, 2021 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

Yeah I hve a UE Boom 2 speaker that I have used with my phone and it has a 
microphone in it 

We used it for phone calls with friends in Australia before zoom and facetime 
really got up and running.

Not sure how much they cost these days 

The other might be the sonos roam 
Which I believe  has a microphone in it.
-Original Message-
From: 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 2:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi All, 

Before I search on Amazon, LOL. 

Is anyone currently using a BluTooth speaker connected to their iPhone with a 
microphone built in to the speaker?  Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook

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RE: mirroring the iPhone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kay,

Good luck with that,

I’ve been trying to get that to workfor years but it doesn’t.

Even reading them on one doesn’t cancel out the other.

At least didn’t
There was an update to watch os 8.3 this morning,

I don’t think it did anything more to change this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
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Subject: mirroring the iPhone?

Hi all,
I am tired of having to delete my text messages and phone messages from both 
the watch and iPhone.  I seem to recall seeing mirror iPhone or something to 
that effect, in a couple of different places.  Can someone tell me what I need 
to do to get this to quit?  If I delete one, I would like the other place to be 
deleted as well.  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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