Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

You can also use your Alexa to help find your iPhone as well.  If I
don't know where my iPhone is, I just say Elexa find my phone.  Then,
she will call  my iPhone, and I can hear my phone ring and locate it.

On 3/12/22, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> When I tried it I had blue tooth turned on in my hearing aids for phone
> calls. The beeping sound came from my phone, not in my ears. I’ll continue
> to play with it. I do tend to forget where I laid my phone, so I’ll have
> plenty of chances to see if this is really true.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I
> mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I
> had that turned on.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Paula Jordan
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone
> in order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it
> just rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone.
> It took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I
> could find it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey
> Siri so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button
> to invoke her is also on this setting screen.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS
> 
>
> From: dudleym via VIPhone 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
>
>>Thank you to all who have helped.
>>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was
>>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he
>>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the
>>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>
>>>Get Outlook for iOS 
>>>
>>>
>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> on behalf of Carolyn
>>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>Hi Chuck,
>>>
>>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch
>>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used
>>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much
>>>better than touch ID.
>>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope 

RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mitch,

 

No LIDAR on the iPhone 13 Mini. Just the Pro models of the 12 and 13 series has 
it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

 

Is it on the 13 mini? From mich

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 12, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third generation. 
I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but Richard says 
it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com  
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: new iphone SE 3rd generation

 

Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.

 

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Re: facebook issue

[Wendy Lin]

I’m receiving WhatsApp calls and regular phone calls fine.

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 5:20 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> yeah 
> but, how about recieving wahtsapp calls or regular calls 
> 
> 
> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
> skype: chungchiming9950 face book: http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
> 
> Wendy Lin () 在 2022年3月12日星期六 上午11:00:03 [GMT+8] 寫道：
> 
> 
> To the person who replied in this thread, it was a blank email.
> To Ming: Honestly I barely do Facebook messenger calls myself but when I do 
> receive calls from time to time, I have no issues. It rings on my end.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:19 AM, ⁨ליאל בן סימון⁩ <⁨liel...@gmail.com 
>> ⁩> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I haven't any issue with that.
>> To me it works fine.
>> 
>> מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.
>> 0509549090
>> לדף העסקי שלי:
>> https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> ‫ב-11 במרץ 2022, בשעה 12:21, ‏‏'Ming' via VIPhone 
>>> ‏mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> כתב/ה:‬
>>> 
>>> hi!all,
>>> anyone encounter an issue:
>>> when opening the facebook and have incoming calls.
>>> it does not have any ringtone and haptic feedback.
>>> anyone have this issue?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger 
>>> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com  
>>> skype: chungchiming9950 face book: http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1 
>>> 
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RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[M. Taylor]

As for me, I use Good Maps Outdoors, Nearby Explorer, and Lazarillo GPS.  Each 
app works differently in various areas.  Between them, however, I get the info 
that I need.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections

Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good as 
nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since I 
think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
> Spittle
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>  
> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how it 
>> does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>  
>> Cher
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Paula Jordan]

When I tried it I had blue tooth turned on in my hearing aids for phone calls. 
The beeping sound came from my phone, not in my ears. I’ll continue to play 
with it. I do tend to forget where I laid my phone, so I’ll have plenty of 
chances to see if this is really true.
God bless!
Paula and the pups


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I 
mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I had 
that turned on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS  
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>   

Nearby Explorer

[terrieter]

Dear Julian,
It is working! I have installed Nearby Explorer and the map download is 80% 
complete. Thank you so much for responding to my email. I know a number of 
people as well as me who will be delighted. I can't thank you enough! My 
national maps just downloaded and now Kentucky is 100% downloaded and the map 
download is complete. You are my Nearby Explorer hero. Thank you again. This 
will make a huge difference in my  life.
Warm regards,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

As far as I understand, if you had purchased Nearby Explorer, you should still 
be able to download it to your phone even though it isn't currently offered in 
the App Store. You have to go into your account in the App Store and look under 
the purchased tab and you should see it there and it should offer you the 
ability to re-download it. I agree 100% that nearby explorer is the best GPS 
app out there and I will keep using it as long as it works. Hope that helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:42 PM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> 
> Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
> uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
> names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. 
> Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
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RE: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[terrieter]

Hello Julian,
Oh, I am going to try this now! I had no idea that this might be possible. 
Thank you for your instructions. I'll let you all know if it works.
Terrie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

As far as I understand, if you had purchased Nearby Explorer, you should still 
be able to download it to your phone even though it isn't currently offered in 
the App Store. You have to go into your account in the App Store and look under 
the purchased tab and you should see it there and it should offer you the 
ability to re-download it. I agree 100% that nearby explorer is the best GPS 
app out there and I will keep using it as long as it works. Hope that helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:42 PM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> 
> Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
> uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
> names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. 
> Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
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Re: best map app for announcing street intersections

[Richard Turner]

GoodMaps Explore, which replaced Nearby Explorer has become focused on indoor 
navigation.
GoodMaps Outdoor is the old Seeing Eye GPS rebranded and made free.
Though, as others said, if you primarily want intersection announcements, 
SoundScape with bone conduction headphones is excellent.



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> On Mar 12, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
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 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
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RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[Leo Bado]

As a learning strategy, gaming is useful because it brings about the ludic 
factor into the learning process, which provides a more similar approach  to 
the way little kids learn by reacting to stimulation. However, learning a 
language really takes a combination  of strategies, effort, motivation,  and 
some kind of formal instruction. Of course, one may ask, to which degree do you 
need  to  dig deeper into strategies and formal instruction? The answer depends 
on learner’s realistic goal. If you want to hold a conversation with 
acquaintances  or friends,, you may allow yourself to set the bar low,  but you 
won’t be able to understand what is spoken in a different context, let say, a 
lecture. Learning through gaming is a powerful ally, but ineffective if 
learners use it as a panacea, so to speak.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

 

Hello Leo,

 

I find your comments intriguing and, quite frankly, enlightening.

 

Not to get too far off-point, I want to ask you if you find apps like Duo 
Lingo, accessible and can one truly learn a language, in your opinion using 
such apps?  If not, what do you recommend?

 

With regard to my recent experimentation with Duo Lingo, so far, I am not 
finding the app accessible.

 

So, after opening the app, I did not create an account; at least not yet.  
Perhaps this may have something to do with my interface experience.

 

Because I have a passing acquaintance  with the language, I selected Spanish as 
my free language of choice.

 

What I am presented with is a grid of photos upon which I can tap to hear the 
Spanish word for that particular photo, a man, a woman, a chair, etc.

 

As I said, my limited interface choices may have something to do with the fact 
that I am using the app without providing an email address.  Or, perhaps there 
is a setting I have yet to discover that would make the interface work as Chela 
and Dave have described.

 

All replies greatly appreciated.

 

Mark

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo 
Bado

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:19 AM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

 

Hello Terri,

Even though I see that other listers have already made suggestions, I would 
like to say something. Indeed, what you’re looking for is called gaming in the 
language-learning strategies of recent theoretical accounts. On the other hand, 
decontextualized memorization and traditional approaches on language learning 
are not sufficiently enough effective  to reach competence  in any given spoken 
language. That only works for archeologists or linguists  researching on dead 
languages. 

My suggestion is trying a holistic approach in which you can carry out 
different activities related to the four basic skills in any given language. 
Gaming is pretty good, but it is just a small part of the learning process. 
Learning a language  as an adult is a complex process that requires getting out 
of one’s comfort zone. However, this doesn’t mean that it should be boring or 
nerve-wracking.  In short, I would suggest not letting false expectations 
entice you. 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:12 PM

To:   mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

 

Hello everyone,

 

 

I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 

apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.

 

 

Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a 

new language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and 

maybe one other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I 

just really want to try it, rather or not it works out.

 

 

I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 

studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.

 

Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. 

But I would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if 

possible.

 

 

What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?

 

 

Thank you,

 

 

Terri

 

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Re: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[Julian]

As far as I understand, if you had purchased Nearby Explorer, you should still 
be able to download it to your phone even though it isn't currently offered in 
the App Store. You have to go into your account in the App Store and look under 
the purchased tab and you should see it there and it should offer you the 
ability to re-download it. I agree 100% that nearby explorer is the best GPS 
app out there and I will keep using it as long as it works. Hope that helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:42 PM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> 
> Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
> uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
> names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. 
> Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
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~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[terrieter]

Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. Sometimes 
it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
Best,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections

Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good as 
nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since I 
think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
> Spittle
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>  
> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how it 
>> does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>  
>> Cher
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Re: best map app for announcing street intersections

[Mike Arrigo]

Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good as 
nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since I 
think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
> Spittle
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>  
> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how it 
>> does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>  
>> Cher
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I 
mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I had 
that turned on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS  
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
>>
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Re: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[Brandon A. Olivares]

I've used Duolingo before, and it is definitely accessible.

No, personally I don't think that Duolingo, by itself, is enough to learn a 
language to fluency. It's always going to require real-life conversation with 
natives of that language. Italki is a great service for that, but I do think 
Duolingo is very useful.

Brandon

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 4:23 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Leo,
> 
> I find your comments intriguing and, quite frankly, enlightening.
> 
> Not to get too far off-point, I want to ask you if you find apps like Duo 
> Lingo, accessible and can one truly learn a language, in your opinion using 
> such apps?  If not, what do you recommend?
> 
> With regard to my recent experimentation with Duo Lingo, so far, I am not 
> finding the app accessible.
> 
> So, after opening the app, I did not create an account; at least not yet.  
> Perhaps this may have something to do with my interface experience.
> 
> Because I have a passing acquaintance  with the language, I selected Spanish 
> as my free language of choice.
> 
> What I am presented with is a grid of photos upon which I can tap to hear the 
> Spanish word for that particular photo, a man, a woman, a chair, etc.
> 
> As I said, my limited interface choices may have something to do with the 
> fact that I am using the app without providing an email address.  Or, perhaps 
> there is a setting I have yet to discover that would make the interface work 
> as Chela and Dave have described.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
> Bado
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps
> 
> Hello Terri,
> Even though I see that other listers have already made suggestions, I would 
> like to say something. Indeed, what you’re looking for is called gaming in 
> the language-learning strategies of recent theoretical accounts. On the other 
> hand, decontextualized memorization and traditional approaches on language 
> learning are not sufficiently enough effective  to reach competence  in any 
> given spoken language. That only works for archeologists or linguists  
> researching on dead languages. 
> My suggestion is trying a holistic approach in which you can carry out 
> different activities related to the four basic skills in any given language. 
> Gaming is pretty good, but it is just a small part of the learning process. 
> Learning a language  as an adult is a complex process that requires getting 
> out of one’s comfort zone. However, this doesn’t mean that it should be 
> boring or nerve-wracking.  In short, I would suggest not letting false 
> expectations entice you. 
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:12 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Looking for accessible language learning Apps
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 
> apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a 
> new language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and 
> maybe one other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I 
> just really want to try it, rather or not it works out.
> 
> 
> I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 
> studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.
> 
> Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. 
> But I would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if 
> possible.
> 
> 
> What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks for that confirmation, Alex.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

 

Yes, my 12 pro max has LiDAR.

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
Lemly 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:02:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation 

 

As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third generation. 
I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but Richard says 
it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.

 

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Re: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[CHELA Robles]

Are you using voice over or are you using zoom? If using voice over everything 
reads out very well I’ve had no issues in setting up an account of course I did 
this a long time ago like back in 2014 I’m now in the Emerald league in Spanish 
because I want to brush up on it. So far so good. By the way I use voice over 
and I’m totally blind. Plus if you want to ever try to chat with anybody in 
Spanish I think for plus members that have certain audio classes to sign up for 
but I’ve never done that nor do I wish to do so but they do have stories to 
listen to that you can actually unlock it’s like reading comprehension they 
have a series of questions after that. There’s even a Spanish podcast with 
Duolingo. Anyway back to your set up, how did you choose a language without 
setting up an account first? Did you press like a skip button maybe that’s why?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 1:23 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Leo,
> 
> I find your comments intriguing and, quite frankly, enlightening.
> 
> Not to get too far off-point, I want to ask you if you find apps like Duo 
> Lingo, accessible and can one truly learn a language, in your opinion using 
> such apps?  If not, what do you recommend?
> 
> With regard to my recent experimentation with Duo Lingo, so far, I am not 
> finding the app accessible.
> 
> So, after opening the app, I did not create an account; at least not yet.  
> Perhaps this may have something to do with my interface experience.
> 
> Because I have a passing acquaintance  with the language, I selected Spanish 
> as my free language of choice.
> 
> What I am presented with is a grid of photos upon which I can tap to hear the 
> Spanish word for that particular photo, a man, a woman, a chair, etc.
> 
> As I said, my limited interface choices may have something to do with the 
> fact that I am using the app without providing an email address.  Or, perhaps 
> there is a setting I have yet to discover that would make the interface work 
> as Chela and Dave have described.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
> Bado
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps
> 
> Hello Terri,
> Even though I see that other listers have already made suggestions, I would 
> like to say something. Indeed, what you’re looking for is called gaming in 
> the language-learning strategies of recent theoretical accounts. On the other 
> hand, decontextualized memorization and traditional approaches on language 
> learning are not sufficiently enough effective  to reach competence  in any 
> given spoken language. That only works for archeologists or linguists  
> researching on dead languages. 
> My suggestion is trying a holistic approach in which you can carry out 
> different activities related to the four basic skills in any given language. 
> Gaming is pretty good, but it is just a small part of the learning process. 
> Learning a language  as an adult is a complex process that requires getting 
> out of one’s comfort zone. However, this doesn’t mean that it should be 
> boring or nerve-wracking.  In short, I would suggest not letting false 
> expectations entice you.
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:12 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Looking for accessible language learning Apps
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 
> apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a 
> new language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and 
> maybe one other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I 
> just really want to try it, rather or not it works out.
> 
> 
> I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 
> studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.
> 
> Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. 
> But I would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if 
> possible.
> 
> 
> What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Mich Verrier]

Is it on the 13 mini? From mich

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third 
> generation. I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but 
> Richard says it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:53 PM
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>  
> Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.
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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Alex Stone]

Yes, my 12 pro max has LiDAR.

Get Outlook for iOS

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Lemly 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:02:23 PM
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As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third generation. 
I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but Richard says 
it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.



Alan Lemly



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Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.



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RE: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Alan Lemly]

As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third generation. 
I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but Richard says 
it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.

 

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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Richard Turner]

No, it doesn't.



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> On Mar 12, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> 
> I don’t believe it does support LiDAR. I have not seen that feature 
> referenced anywhere with regard to this new phone. I would like to be wrong 
> of course.
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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How to Switch the Incoming Call Banner Back to Full Screen on iPhone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

If, like me, you find it difficult to locate the incoming call banner near
the top of the display, when receiving a call while using the device, you
can easily switch it back to full screen, as it used to be in earlier
versions of iOS.

To make it so that the phone app takes up the entire display during an
incoming call:

1.
>From the Settings app, select, "Phone".

2.
Select "Incoming Calls".

3.
Select "Full Screen".

That's all there is to it.

Give it a try.

Mark


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RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[M. Taylor]

Hello Leo,

I find your comments intriguing and, quite frankly, enlightening.

Not to get too far off-point, I want to ask you if you find apps like Duo 
Lingo, accessible and can one truly learn a language, in your opinion using 
such apps?  If not, what do you recommend?

With regard to my recent experimentation with Duo Lingo, so far, I am not 
finding the app accessible.

So, after opening the app, I did not create an account; at least not yet.  
Perhaps this may have something to do with my interface experience.

Because I have a passing acquaintance  with the language, I selected Spanish as 
my free language of choice.

What I am presented with is a grid of photos upon which I can tap to hear the 
Spanish word for that particular photo, a man, a woman, a chair, etc.

As I said, my limited interface choices may have something to do with the fact 
that I am using the app without providing an email address.  Or, perhaps there 
is a setting I have yet to discover that would make the interface work as Chela 
and Dave have described.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo Bado
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

Hello Terri,
Even though I see that other listers have already made suggestions, I would 
like to say something. Indeed, what you’re looking for is called gaming in the 
language-learning strategies of recent theoretical accounts. On the other hand, 
decontextualized memorization and traditional approaches on language learning 
are not sufficiently enough effective  to reach competence  in any given spoken 
language. That only works for archeologists or linguists  researching on dead 
languages. 
My suggestion is trying a holistic approach in which you can carry out 
different activities related to the four basic skills in any given language. 
Gaming is pretty good, but it is just a small part of the learning process. 
Learning a language  as an adult is a complex process that requires getting out 
of one’s comfort zone. However, this doesn’t mean that it should be boring or 
nerve-wracking.  In short, I would suggest not letting false expectations 
entice you. 

Best,
Leo Bado

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Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:12 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

Hello everyone,


I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 
apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.


Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a 
new language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and 
maybe one other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I 
just really want to try it, rather or not it works out.


I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 
studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.

Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. 
But I would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if 
possible.


What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Mary Otten]

I don’t believe it does support LiDAR. I have not seen that feature referenced 
anywhere with regard to this new phone. I would like to be wrong of course.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Paula Jordan]

That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
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>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS  
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
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new iphone SE 3rd generation

[llumpkin]

Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.

 

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RE: Utilities Folder.

[Carolyn]

Thanks. I might have to call Apple Accessibility next week. 

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You probably accidently moved the two apps on top of each other. I have had 
this happen when I put my phone away and didn't realize that it was still 
unlocked. It is very annoying. The only way I know to fix it is to move the 
apps back. There was an email thread last week with very detailed instructions 
on how to do this. however, I have never had any luck with it, instead, I 
always end up making things worse. I always have to wait until I can get a 
sighted person to rearrange the apps for me.  I really wish that apple would 
make it harder to move apps like making you have to go to settings or 
something. because it is very annoying and inconvenient.  


On Mar 12, 2022, at 11:25 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:





Somehow or other, at the top of my screen, out of the blue, in the 
middle of the day, a Folder called Utilities is at the top containing clock and 
camera. 

 

I do not want this at all. 

 

What do I do to get my phone like it was an hour or so ago, please, and 
like it has been for an indefinite period of time? Thanks. 

 



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Re: Home screen.

[Barbara Stahl]

Here is the thread again.  

> On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll add a couple of comments to Christopher's excellent instructions. 
> 
> Be aware that a iPhone home screen usually contains 6 rows of 4 app icons 
> each plus a dock of 4 icons at the very bottom that is constant on all home 
> screens. I'm leaving out widgets and their effects because I don't use them.
> 
> I assumed from your original post that you're trying to edit the dock but 
> I've learned never to answer a post based on assumptions. 
> 
> Jenny, could you be a bit more specific on exactly where you want your home 
> screen apps? 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2022, at 9:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I’m not sure this will help, and I’m sure others can do a better job of 
>> explaining this than me, but try the following.
>>  
>> First, to move an object around on the home screen, you need to go into edit 
>> mode. You can do this by flick down on any object on the screen until you 
>> hear edit and then you double tap. You’re now in edit mode. Next, you find 
>> the object you want to move, like the Mail app, and flick down until you 
>> hear something like “Drag Mail app” and then double tap. You’re now dragging 
>> the Mail app around the screen. Now you can move around your home screens 
>> like you normally would and when you get to where you want to place the Mail 
>> app, you flick down until you hear options like “Drop before” or “Drop 
>> after”. Now you double tap and the Mail app will be moved.
>>  
>> In your case, I’d suggest clearing out the dock of the apps you don’t want 
>> in the dock by moving them to somewhere else on the home page. Once that’s 
>> done, you can then start moving and rearranging the apps in your dock. Note 
>> that you can drag multiple objects around, by just finding them and flicking 
>> down until you hear “Add to drag”, which is good if you’re creating a folder 
>> or moving a bunch of apps to a new  home page. Good luck, and I hope this 
>> helps at least a bit.
>>  
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
>> Bomareto
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2022 7:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Home screen.
>>  
>> Can someone tell me how to get mail back so for example Clock is at the very 
>> far right then messages then mail and then the last one with the far left 
>> his phone. That’s originally how those were organized on the home screen so 
>> I want to get it back to the way it was. It’s not on the home screen meaning 
>> the mail I have to flick through the different apps hope I’m making sense. 
>> Your help would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>> Jenny Bomareto
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

[Leo Bado]

Hello Terri,

Even though I see that other listers have already made suggestions, I would 
like to say something. Indeed, what you’re looking for is called gaming in the 
language-learning strategies of recent theoretical accounts. On the other hand, 
decontextualized memorization and traditional approaches on language learning 
are not sufficiently enough effective  to reach competence  in any given spoken 
language. That only works for archeologists or linguists  researching on dead 
languages. 

My suggestion is trying a holistic approach in which you can carry out 
different activities related to the four basic skills in any given language. 
Gaming is pretty good, but it is just a small part of the learning process. 
Learning a language  as an adult is a complex process that requires getting out 
of one’s comfort zone. However, this doesn’t mean that it should be boring or 
nerve-wracking.  In short, I would suggest not letting false expectations 
entice you. 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for accessible language learning Apps

 

Hello everyone,

 

 

I can't remember if this was recently asked here, or not. If so, I do 

apologize. I know I saw similar questions somewhere.

 

 

Anyway, I am looking for an accessible App, to help me possibly learn a 

new language. I am most interested in learning Chinese, Spanish, and 

maybe one other as well. I don't know how possible any of this is. But I 

just really want to try it, rather or not it works out.

 

 

I want an App where the learning is done through interaction. Not just 

studying, or trying to do a lot of memorizing.

 

Also, I don't mind purchasing an App. Or paying to learn the languages. 

But I would like the App to be quite accessible, and easy to use, if 

possible.

 

 

What do you all think? Does what I am looking for, even exist?

 

 

Thank you,

 

 

Terri

 

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Re: Utilities Folder.

[Barbara Stahl]

You probably accidently moved the two apps on top of each other. I have had 
this happen when I put my phone away and didn't realize that it was still 
unlocked. It is very annoying. The only way I know to fix it is to move the 
apps back. There was an email thread last week with very detailed instructions 
on how to do this. however, I have never had any luck with it, instead, I 
always end up making things worse. I always have to wait until I can get a 
sighted person to rearrange the apps for me.  I really wish that apple would 
make it harder to move apps like making you have to go to settings or 
something. because it is very annoying and inconvenient.  

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 11:25 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Somehow or other, at the top of my screen, out of the blue, in the middle of 
> the day, a Folder called Utilities is at the top containing clock and camera.
>  
> I do not want this at all.
>  
> What do I do to get my phone like it was an hour or so ago, please, and like 
> it has been for an indefinite period of time? Thanks.
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[ליאל בן סימון]

Yes, it's easey. You need to press and hold the power button.

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> ‫ב-12 במרץ 2022, בשעה 12:45, ‏‏dudleym via VIPhone 
> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
> 
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
 On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If 
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not 
>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so 
>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes 
>>> to another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS  
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
>>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
>>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than 
>>> touch ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
>>> on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer 
>>> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for 
>>> scanning the fingerprint?
>>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
>>> a fingerprint, if possible.
>>>   Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Chuck  (mobile)
>>>   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1961 Vespa 400 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Chuck Dean]

Cool Beans! 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:33 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. 
> It took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could 
> find it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey 
> Siri so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to 
> invoke her is also on this setting screen. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: dudleym via VIPhone 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
> 
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
 On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>> dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>> got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>> phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>> I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  on behalf of Carolyn 
>>> <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>> ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>> phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>> better than touch ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>> well on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>>   Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Chuck  (mobile)
>>>   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1961 Vespa 400 
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

And, you have to use passcodes at times like after updates. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

And there's no reason you can't use both. Set up face ID and whenever it 
doesn't work, you can always enter your pass code.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >> w.cadean.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf2c9b9dfbbf24dff12b408da043ae3
>>> 21%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637826948211469439%7
>>> CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I
>>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=wnots%2BXbXHE6MgR%2FqwSYuvXTK
>>> goDFPfe%2BoIXajz4DWU%3Dreserved=0> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >> dean.com%2FVespa.htmldata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf2c9b9dfbbf24dff12b408da
>>> 043ae321%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63782694821146
>>> 9439%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS  
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 
>>
>>
>>
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Utilities Folder.

[Carolyn]

Somehow or other, at the top of my screen, out of the blue,
in the middle of the day, a Folder called Utilities is at
the top containing clock and camera. 

 

I do not want this at all. 

 

What do I do to get my phone like it was an hour or so ago,
please, and like it has been for an indefinite period of
time? Thanks. 

 

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RE: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

[Christopher Chaltain]

I’m on my second pair of Titaniums myself, and I use my Aftershokz every single 
day. As far as alternatives are concerned, it depends on why you go for the 
bone conduction head phones. If it includes being able to hear environmental 
sounds in addition to your head phones then things like the Bose Frames and the 
Apple Air Pods with their transparency mode would be options but they’re more 
expensive than the Aftershokz.

Only you can decide if the Aftershokz are worth it or not, but if you use them 
as much as I do then I think they’re worth the price, even if you need to 
replace them every two years or so.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

I look forward to you getting them because I definitely think that you will 
absolutely love them.


On March 13, 2022 00:07:27 Beth G 
mailto:bethm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all,

Richard, I had saved that demo in my email and went back and listen to it. 
Between that and the other positive reviews in this thread, my pair of open 
comms are to arrive today. Thank you Amazon!

thank you all for your help!

Beth

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:28 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I did a detailed review and demonstration of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset 
which I highly recommend.
It is the third heading on the page at the following link:

http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html


Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Mar 11, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Beth G 
mailto:bethm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all,

Sadly, it is time for me to buy my third pair of bone conduction headset. I’ve 
had aftershocks first the titanium treks, and then the Aeropex. I like them, 
and maybe roughly one year to 18 months is all the life I should expect given 
how much I use them. However, I’m having a hard time justifying the cost for a 
third pair. Should I go ahead and get a third pair, or are there other options 
worth considering?

Thank you,

Beth

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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Christopher Chaltain]

And there's no reason you can't use both. Set up face ID and whenever it 
doesn't work, you can always enter your pass code.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >> w.cadean.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf2c9b9dfbbf24dff12b408da043ae3
>>> 21%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637826948211469439%7
>>> CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I
>>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=wnots%2BXbXHE6MgR%2FqwSYuvXTK
>>> goDFPfe%2BoIXajz4DWU%3Dreserved=0> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >> dean.com%2FVespa.htmldata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf2c9b9dfbbf24dff12b408da
>>> 043ae321%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63782694821146
>>> 9439%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ
>>> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=4ICTeZz%2FIwANO4tsQamPC
>>> E9MOKrl2naCsqG8Y5NgK98%3Dreserved=0> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>>>  > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Well, last night, I 

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Alan Lemly]

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini
myself but am confused as how to invoke siri. I
think I read somewhere that the power button can
be used, but I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to
>>my pastor, who has an Android phone. I never
>>saw where it was delivered, and Sent was
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd
>>have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an
>>attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS  
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people
>>can. I am well up in my years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on
>>your new iPhone. Touch ID is not available on
>>iPhone swithout home buttons and having used
>>phones with both types of biometric
>>identification, face ID works much better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope
>>FlickType Classic is working well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about
>> using apple pay on a newer iPhone without a
>> tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face
>> recognition but I prefer to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 
>>
>>
>>
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Carolyn]

I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>>>  > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has 
>>> an Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>>> If
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I 
>>> do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, 
>>> but was so uncertain about the message. I guess it only says 
>>> delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS  
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on 
>>> behalf of Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>>>  >
>>> 

Re: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

[Marco Curralejo]

I look forward to you getting them because I definitely think that you will 
absolutely love them.


On March 13, 2022 00:07:27 Beth G  wrote:

Hello all,

Richard, I had saved that demo in my email and went back and listen to it. 
Between that and the other positive reviews in this thread, my pair of open 
comms are to arrive today. Thank you Amazon!


thank you all for your help!

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:28 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:
I did a detailed review and demonstration of the Aftershokz OpenComm 
headset which I highly recommend.

It is the third heading on the page at the following link:

http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html



Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster 
and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget 
that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's 
too late."


Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)


My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Mar 11, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Beth G  wrote:
Hello all,

Sadly, it is time for me to buy my third pair of bone conduction headset. 
I’ve had aftershocks first the titanium treks, and then the Aeropex. I like 
them, and maybe roughly one year to 18 months is all the life I should 
expect given how much I use them. However, I’m having a hard time 
justifying the cost for a third pair. Should I go ahead and get a third 
pair, or are there other options worth considering?


Thank you,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi. Yes, hold the side button to speak to siri.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: dudleym via VIPhone  
Sent: March 12, 2022 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS  
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
>>
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Re: Question regarding bone conduction headsets

[Beth G]

Hello all,

Richard, I had saved that demo in my email and went back and listen to it. 
Between that and the other positive reviews in this thread, my pair of open 
comms are to arrive today. Thank you Amazon!

thank you all for your help!

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I did a detailed review and demonstration of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset 
> which I highly recommend.
> It is the third heading on the page at the following link:
> 
> http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Beth G  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Sadly, it is time for me to buy my third pair of bone conduction headset. 
>> I’ve had aftershocks first the titanium treks, and then the Aeropex. I like 
>> them, and maybe roughly one year to 18 months is all the life I should 
>> expect given how much I use them. However, I’m having a hard time justifying 
>> the cost for a third pair. Should I go ahead and get a third pair, or are 
>> there other options worth considering?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Beth
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Trea Abma]

Hi,

I’ve used my iPhone 11 for two years now, but  yesterday I bought the new SE. 
Face ID works for  me, but I like Touch ID better.

Trea 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 12 mrt. 2022 om 07:35 heeft Joshua Hendrickson  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.
> 
> On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> I’m glad!
>> We are all here to help each other.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 Chuck,
 Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
 require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
 have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
 Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
 recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
 the visually impaired.
 Alan Lemly
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
 Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
 least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
 to rescan my face
 Chuck  (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
 Our 1961 Vespa 400
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
 Chuck;
 That is absolutely not true.
 I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
 Anthony
 Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
 I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
 it’s dark in the room.
 Chuck  (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
 Our 1961 Vespa 400
 On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
 wrote:
 Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
 On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 Chuck,
 That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
 mine.
 Alan
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Chuck
 Dean
 Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
 Thank you to all who have helped.
 I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
 perfectly!
 Chuck  (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
  Our 1961 Vespa 400
 On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
  > wrote:
 Thanks.
 Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
 Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
 If
 he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do
 not
 have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
 uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes
 to
 another iPhone?
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
 Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
 Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
 Get Outlook for iOS 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf
 of
 Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  >
 Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
 Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
 If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
 years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[dudleym via VIPhone]

Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini 
myself but am confused as how to invoke siri. I 
think I read somewhere that the power button can 
be used, but I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.


Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-


Thank you to all who have helped.
I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400


On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to 
my pastor, who has an Android phone. I never 
saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd 
have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
phone, but was so uncertain about the message. 
I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 on behalf of Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people 
can. I am well up in my years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on 
your new iPhone. Touch ID is not available on 
iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
phones with both types of biometric 
identification, face ID works much better than touch ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope 
FlickType Classic is working well on it.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:



   
   New iPhone without tactile home button.
   Hello everyone, I am wondering about 
using apple pay on a newer iPhone without a 
tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint?
   I understand these iPhone's have face 
recognition but I prefer to use a fingerprint, if possible.

   Thanks,


   Chuck  (mobile)
   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 


   Our 1961 Vespa 400 



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Re: facebook issue

['Ming' via VIPhone]

 yeah 
but, how about recieving wahtsapp calls or regular calls 


Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
skype: chungchiming9950 face book: http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1

 Wendy Lin () 在 2022年3月12日星期六 上午11:00:03 [GMT+8] 寫道： 
 
 
 To the person who replied in this thread, it was a blank email.To Ming: 
Honestly I barely do Facebook messenger calls myself but when I do receive 
calls from time to time, I have no issues. It rings on my end.


On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:19 AM, ⁨ליאל בן סימון⁩ <⁨liel...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
Hi, I haven't any issue with that.To me it works fine.
מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי 
שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ 

‫ב-11 במרץ 2022, בשעה 12:21, ‏‏'Ming' via VIPhone ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬



hi!all,
anyone encounter an issue:
when opening the facebook and have incoming calls.
it does not have any ringtone and haptic feedback.
anyone have this issue?


Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
skype: chungchiming9950 face book: http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1

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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Dennis Long]

I agree.  I have also used it in a totally dark room.  It worked just fine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Chuck;

 

That is absolutely not true.

I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

 

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello,

No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.

I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





  Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

 

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed

mine.

 

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck

Dean

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

 

 

Thank you to all who have helped.

 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!

 

 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

 

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 

 

 

 

 Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

 

 

 

 

 

 Our 1961 Vespa 400

 

 

 

 

 

On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net

 > wrote:

 

Thanks.

 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an

Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If

he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not

have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so

uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to

another iPhone?

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   


[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   


Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

 

Get Outlook for iOS 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   


mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
 > on behalf of

Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  
 
 >

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   


mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
 >

Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my

years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   


[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   


Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Hi Chuck,

 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is

not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with

both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch

ID.

Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well

on it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

 

  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

 

  

  New iPhone without tactile home button.

  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer

iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning

the fingerprint?

  I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use

a fingerprint, if possible.

  Thanks,

 

 

  Chuck  (mobile)

  Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 

  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Dennis Long]

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>>>  > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has 
>>> an Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>>> If
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I 
>>> do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, 
>>> but was so uncertain about the message. I guess it only says 
>>> delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS  
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on 
>>> behalf of Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>>>  >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can.