Re: Capitalone 360 iPhone app and making transfers

[Peter Logan]

I just checked, and it works fine for me both inbound and outbound…Maybe it’s time for a call to capital One.Sent from my IPhone.On Oct 5, 2022, at 8:38 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:All:Is it just me, or can anyone else not make Transfers from External accounts to a Capitalone 360 account using their iPhone app? The account is still linked, but its grayed out or something. I’ve even reinstalled the App. The account is fine b/c I can do it on the web site.



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RE: SE 2020

[bentleyj1952]

LOL, Your wife is gonna get hacked off if she catches you whispering sweet 
nothings in to some one elsses ear durring the wee hours of the night.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SE 2020

 

Maybe your microphone is dirty or defective, I have no issues with Siri 
understanding me, last night I wanted her to do a conversion and my wife was 
already sleeping and while I held the iPhone quite close to me I basically 
whispered it to Siri and my request was recognized just fine.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: SE 2020

 

Hello all

There is another thing happening on my SE 2020 since the first 16 update. I did 
write up a list and send it on to Apple Assessibility and just got disconnected 
while waiting on hold to talk to them about what I will describe below.

   Siri is not responding to my normal tone of voice. I have to 
literally yell at the phone (and my echo device) to get her to acknowledge I 
have spoken. I know to wait to hear the bonk sound, for lack of a better term, 
and either way I wind up having to repeat my request twice, and you all know 
how much I like doing that! 

   Is there some setting to mark the sensitivity of the 
recognition? I don't mean speech recognition, just regular dictated speech, 
once again most of the problems are when I try to use Siri from the home 
screen, and I am not within an app. I guess if this persists I will simply get 
trained to always do dictation within an edit field in a specific App.

 

   Another broken thing: 

   If I say go to mail settings or settings for mail, I will never 
be taken to those specific settings. This was not the case with previous IOS 
versions.

   And, why is "mentions" in my roter? I did not put it there and 
see nothing about it in the roter settings.

btw, what bugs did 16.2 fix?

 

   Deidre

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RE: Capitalone 360 iPhone app and making transfers

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Well crap.

Its always worked up until now.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Munoz
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Capitalone 360 iPhone app and making transfers

 

No. Just tried it on my phone and  seems to be working fine for me. I didn’t go 
through with the transfer, but went through all the steps all the way up to the 
final one. Nothing was grayed out for me.  I have both a 360 checking and 360 
savings account and have an external account linked With no issues. I do know 
that business accounts Cannot be linked to the 360 savings account for 
transfers Though. 

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Re: Capitalone 360 iPhone app and making transfers

[Cristobal Munoz]

No. Just tried it on my phone and  seems to be working fine for me. I didn’t go 
through with the transfer, but went through all the steps all the way up to the 
final one. Nothing was grayed out for me.  I have both a 360 checking and 360 
savings account and have an external account linked With no issues. I do know 
that business accounts Cannot be linked to the 360 savings account for 
transfers Though. 

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Capitalone 360 iPhone app and making transfers

[sarai.bucciarelli]

All:

Is it just me, or can anyone else not make Transfers from External accounts
to a Capitalone 360 account using their iPhone app? The account is still
linked, but its grayed out or something. I've even reinstalled the App. The
account is fine b/c I can do it on the web site.

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Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Barbara Stahl]

Hi! 
You add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
roder, then select containers. 
However, this is not necessary to find out the pressure info from the native 
weather. app.  I personally, never use containers and access this information 
all the time.  
You just slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced 
by days rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all the 
extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so on. Its 
pretty easy, but it is a slightly longer process than it used to be in previous 
versions of ios. You used to be able to touch the botum of the screen where it 
names your selected city and then scroll up and the information was right 
there, but now if you try this you end up on the weather by days portion of the 
app and must scroll back down again.  

> On Oct 5, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, but 
> doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking for 
> something with a little more pressure information and someone suggested Dark 
> Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I found an old post 
> from Richard which mentions pressure and some other items like moon phase 
> that I'm interested in being on the native weather app.
> 
> Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be heard 
> on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I sort of 
> understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for the screen that 
> lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. I've got Characters; 
> Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor
> 
> Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can get 
> this additional weather information.
> 
> I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.
> 
> I'd be very grateful for any help.
> 
> Margaret
> 
>> On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Kay,
>> When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
>> conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm 
>> with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
>> The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
>> The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
>> Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, 
>> visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
>> From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right 
>> flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day 
>> forecast.
>> If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, 
>> Saturday, Sunday, etc.
>>  I think that is everything that is on the screen.
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather
>> app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then
>> to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is
>> interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do
>> to make navigation easier.
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
>> Bob Proctor
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Weather.
>> That should help. I just about make D on rotor, but I'll see what I can do,
>> thanks.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 4:19 PM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> Containers are groups of information that you can jump between with the
>> rotor feature. These are kind of like regions with in an application. You
>> also see containers or landmarks on websites: such as navigation menus, main
>> page content, or footer content.
>> In the Apple Weather app you have: current weather, hourly weather and 10
>> day forecast. You can add the container option to your rotor. When you
>> switch the containers option you can flick down to move down the application
>> via containers and once you get to the container you want to explore, now
>> you can flick right to read the content in the container. You can also flick
>> up to view containers above your current reading position.
>> I hope this helps,
>> Ed
 On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are Containers? How are they used?
>>> 
>>> 

RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Carolyn]

Margaret, in Weather, go to Today, flick through the days until you get to 
where there is sunrise and sunset, wind speed, and eventually barometric 
pressure, and it does say rising or falling - kept me company all through Ian. 

Today is toward the bottom of your phone, higher than the dock is on the home 
page, but not much. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 5:02 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Hi, All:

I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, 
but doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking 
for something with a little more pressure information and someone 
suggested Dark Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I 
found an old post from Richard which mentions pressure and some other 
items like moon phase that I'm interested in being on the native weather 
app.

Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be 
heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I 
sort of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for 
the screen that lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. 
I've got Characters; Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor

Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can 
get this additional weather information.

I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Margaret

On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Kay,
> When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
> conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm 
> with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
> The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
> The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
> Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, 
> visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
> 
>  From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right 
> flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day 
> forecast.
> 
> If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, 
> Saturday, Sunday, etc.
>   
> I think that is everything that is on the screen.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather
> app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then
> to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is
> interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do
> to make navigation easier.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Weather.
> 
> 
> That should help. I just about make D on rotor, but I'll see what I can do,
> thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Ed Worrell
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 4:19 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> Containers are groups of information that you can jump between with the
> rotor feature. These are kind of like regions with in an application. You
> also see containers or landmarks on websites: such as navigation menus, main
> page content, or footer content.
> 
> In the Apple Weather app you have: current weather, hourly weather and 10
> day forecast. You can add the container option to your rotor. When you
> switch the containers option you can flick down to move down the application
> via containers and once you get to the container you want to explore, now
> you can flick right to read the content in the container. You can also flick
> up to view containers above your current reading position.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> What are Containers? How are they used?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 10:27 AM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>>
>> In the default weather app on the iPhone you do not have to navigate it
>> line by line. If you have the containers option in your rotor you can jump
>> between the sections such as current conditions, 

RE: Entering Patient Information In Ellume COVID Home Test

[Debbie Downey]

Hi,

 

I haven’t filled this info out in a few months but if you have your rotor set 
to characters, when you enter your name or anything else, you can flick up on 
each character to see if the name or whatever was entered correctly. You have 
to be able to spell in reverse but that is how I did it. 

 

I remember there being an issue with entering my birthday but even though it 
doesn’t appear to change when you enter it; it’s correct in the end. I really 
don’t remember what I did for this. Sorry about that! 

 

Debbie  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Entering Patient Information In Ellume COVID Home Test

 

Regarding the pickers, you can flick up and down to select the value in each 
box, then hit the done button on the toolbar just above the pickers. I had the 
same issue with entering letters for the patient data, and I do not have any 
workarounds as of yet.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Entering Patient Information In Ellume COVID Home Test

 

I need some tips or confirmation about entering my patient information in the 
Ellume COVID Home Test app.

 

I am using an iPhone SE 2022 and iOS 15.7.  My typing style is set to touch 
typing.  I typically find the letter I want to enter and lift my finger to 
enter the letter.

 

When I enter my first, middle, and last name, I hear a click when I lift my 
finger on each letter.  But I cannot confirm that I have entered the correct 
information.

 

Here is my biggest problem.  There are picker items for the month, day, and 
year of my date of birth.  I adjust each of the picker items the the correct 
value and double-tap to hopefully enter the value.  But when I look at the edit 
field, the original values of the picker items are still there.  The cursor is 
positioned at the end of the date (which is today’s date).  There is no delete 
button to delete the value.  What do I need to do to be sure the values of the 
picker items are used as my birth date?

 

I appreciate any help that will get me through this process.

 

Rob Armstrong

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Containers And iPhone Weather App

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, 
but doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking 
for something with a little more pressure information and someone 
suggested Dark Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I 
found an old post from Richard which mentions pressure and some other 
items like moon phase that I'm interested in being on the native weather 
app.


Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be 
heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I 
sort of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for 
the screen that lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. 
I've got Characters; Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor


Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can 
get this additional weather information.


I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.

I'd be very grateful for any help.

Margaret

On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Kay,
When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm 
with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, visibility 
Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.

 From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right flick, 
then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day forecast.

If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, 
Saturday, Sunday, etc.
  
I think that is everything that is on the screen.



Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weather.

By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather
app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then
to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is
interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do
to make navigation easier.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weather.


That should help. I just about make D on rotor, but I'll see what I can do,
thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 4:19 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Weather.

Containers are groups of information that you can jump between with the
rotor feature. These are kind of like regions with in an application. You
also see containers or landmarks on websites: such as navigation menus, main
page content, or footer content.

In the Apple Weather app you have: current weather, hourly weather and 10
day forecast. You can add the container option to your rotor. When you
switch the containers option you can flick down to move down the application
via containers and once you get to the container you want to explore, now
you can flick right to read the content in the container. You can also flick
up to view containers above your current reading position.

I hope this helps,
Ed



On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What are Containers? How are they used?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 10:27 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Weather.

In the default weather app on the iPhone you do not have to navigate it
line by line. If you have the containers option in your rotor you can jump
between the sections such as current conditions, hourly, daily forecast
and even jump down to the bottom of the app to read amount of rain, temp
details, sun and moon phases, etc.

I hope this helps,

Ed



On Sep 24, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Richard Turner 
wrote:

That's it.
It resets them to their default.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it." -- Jane Wagner





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RE: Entering Patient Information In Ellume COVID Home Test

[tai.tomasi8]

Regarding the pickers, you can flick up and down to select the value in each 
box, then hit the done button on the toolbar just above the pickers. I had the 
same issue with entering letters for the patient data, and I do not have any 
workarounds as of yet.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Entering Patient Information In Ellume COVID Home Test

 

I need some tips or confirmation about entering my patient information in the 
Ellume COVID Home Test app.

 

I am using an iPhone SE 2022 and iOS 15.7.  My typing style is set to touch 
typing.  I typically find the letter I want to enter and lift my finger to 
enter the letter.

 

When I enter my first, middle, and last name, I hear a click when I lift my 
finger on each letter.  But I cannot confirm that I have entered the correct 
information.

 

Here is my biggest problem.  There are picker items for the month, day, and 
year of my date of birth.  I adjust each of the picker items the the correct 
value and double-tap to hopefully enter the value.  But when I look at the edit 
field, the original values of the picker items are still there.  The cursor is 
positioned at the end of the date (which is today’s date).  There is no delete 
button to delete the value.  What do I need to do to be sure the values of the 
picker items are used as my birth date?

 

I appreciate any help that will get me through this process.

 

Rob Armstrong

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Re: Any recommendations?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Do you have the 5000MA one or the 1MA one?  I've heard from
reviews of the 5000MA one, that your phone and the charger will get a
little warm.  I'd purchase the 1MA one when I can save up $80.

On 10/5/22, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
> Hi,
> I have the Anker wireless magnetic charger. I like the size, and it seems to
> work well, although both the charger and the phone get quite warm. Is this
> other peoples experience as well?
> Thanks in advance. Keith USAHi,
> I have the Anker wireless magnetic charger. I like the size, and it seems to
> work well, although both the charger on the phone get quite warm. Is this
> other peoples experience as well?
> Thanks in advance. Keith USA
>
>> On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree. A wireless charger isn't necessary, but like Sieghard, I do find
>> it a bit more convenient, so I don't regret what I've spent on wireless
>> chargers. I don't have a mag safe charger, but I do have a leather case. I
>> don't know what kind of marks a mag safe charger leaves on leather cases,
>> but IMHO, one of the appeals of a leather case is how they wear over time
>> and become uniquely yours.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 7:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Any recommendations?
>>
>> Everybody has their preference, I personally find a charging pad much more
>> convenient, I have one at my desk at work, on my bedside table and in the
>> living room and just putting the phone down on the charging pad to me is
>> easier than having to grab a cable and plug it in. Then of course there is
>> the fact that I still really like to use the wired Earpods and I couldn't
>> use them if I had my phone plugged in to charge unless I buy one of these
>> splitters which would mean another gadget which is sitting around and
>> which ultimately ends up in the landfill because by all indications the
>> iPhone 15 will have a USB-C port so at that point all the Lightning cables
>> and such will start to become obsolede.
>> I have an iPhone 11 and have no plans to upgrade until the earliest next
>> year when the iPhone 15 will be released so I don't have MagSafe but if I
>> were tempted to upgrade than it would also be to an iPhone 14 Pro because
>> of LiDAR and MagSafe. My only complaint with wireless charging is that it
>> is relatively easy to move the phone especially if I use my wired Earpods
>> in the evening, not difficult to pull a bit on them and the phone is out
>> of position to charge, MagSafe would prevent this since the phone is stuck
>> on the charger. It would also be a lot easier to use an external battery
>> with Magsafe technology, once again, it would leave the Lightning port
>> available for a wired headset and I wouldn't need a cable to connect the
>> phone to the battery.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 7:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>>
>> I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad still
>> needs to be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
>> Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable marks
>> in the leather case, destroying its elegance.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the
>>> Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade
>>> to and they had them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but
>>> I cannot swear to that as my friend bought it for me as a thank you
>>> for my help.  She ended up getting a 12 pro and the same charger plus
>>> Airpods and the whole 9 yards.
>>> I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
>>> In any case, always ask before buying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>
>>> My web site:
>>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C558be75cd3464050225608daa6cf8ac5
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>>> nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw
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>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Cris Ali
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks Richard,
>>> Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter
>>> or one has to order it separately?
>>> 

Re: Entering Patient Information In Ellume COVID Home Test

[Donna Casteen]

First, with the app open confirm that screen recognition isn't on. I had no trouble entering my minor daughter's info into the app. Unless you need a copy of the test results sent to you for verification to give to an employer or similar, the info in the app doesn't have to be correct.Donna I need some tips or confirmation about entering my patient information in the Ellume COVID Home Test app. I am using an iPhone SE 2022 and iOS 15.7.  My typing style is set to touch typing.  I typically find the letter I want to enter and lift my finger to enter the letter. When I enter my first, middle, and last name, I hear a click when I lift my finger on each letter.  But I cannot confirm that I have entered the correct information. Here is my biggest problem.  There are picker items for the month, day, and year of my date of birth.  I adjust each of the picker items the the correct value and double-tap to hopefully enter the value.  But when I look at the edit field, the original values of the picker items are still there.  The cursor is positioned at the end of the date (which is today’s date).  There is no delete button to delete the value.  What do I need to do to be sure the values of the picker items are used as my birth date? I appreciate any help that will get me through this process. Rob Armstrong



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Entering Patient Information In Ellume COVID Home Test

[Rob Armstrong]

I need some tips or confirmation about entering my patient information in
the Ellume COVID Home Test app.

 

I am using an iPhone SE 2022 and iOS 15.7.  My typing style is set to touch
typing.  I typically find the letter I want to enter and lift my finger to
enter the letter.

 

When I enter my first, middle, and last name, I hear a click when I lift my
finger on each letter.  But I cannot confirm that I have entered the correct
information.

 

Here is my biggest problem.  There are picker items for the month, day, and
year of my date of birth.  I adjust each of the picker items the the correct
value and double-tap to hopefully enter the value.  But when I look at the
edit field, the original values of the picker items are still there.  The
cursor is positioned at the end of the date (which is today's date).  There
is no delete button to delete the value.  What do I need to do to be sure
the values of the picker items are used as my birth date?

 

I appreciate any help that will get me through this process.

 

Rob Armstrong

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RE: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

[deidreandlouise]

The note I saw roughly 5-7 days ago said those updates would be 
continuing for quite some time,not just a few days.

deidre

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

Yes, I did read the system message about transitioning and possibly slow 
updates, but that was days ago.


Yes, I'm on BARD 2.00.806.


On 10/5/2022 2:55 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> I believe they are in transition with some server updates and had provided a 
> message in the app about knowing that NLS is slower than normal about updates 
> to the library.
> Did you update your app?
>
> Give it another try as sometimes the wish list is also slow to populate.  If 
> it is still showing empty, try tomorrow, then contact your regional library.  
> They may know something more.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
> Matzura
> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?
>
> I visited my wish list last night, as I do about once a month to download 
> subscriptions--or rather, I tried to download them, but like the nursery 
> rhyme, when I got there, the cupboard was bare. Now, I know for sure there 
> are at least three monthly magazines which have September issues, and it's 
> now October, but they're not there. Neither are the biweeklies, and there 
> should be at least three issues of each, too. All the items I think I should 
> be finding in the wish list are still subscribed because for each one, I'm 
> offered the option of unsubscribing. Is NLS just a little slow on updating 
> recent issues, or is there something maybe I'm supposed to do to correctly 
> transition to Bard 2.0 of which I was unaware?

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RE: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

[Richard Turner]

Thomas Donnville gives some good examples of all the VoiceOver Recognition 
features in a podcast on Applevis.  It is under 10 minutes and will give you a 
good example.  My only difference with his comments is that sometimes, it 
actually renders an app useless; like BardMobile.

https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast1338.mp3

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

 

hi,

Can some who use this feature productively please explain best use scenarios?

Thanks in advance. Keith USA

 





On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

It does what it is supposed to do and in quite a few cases I was able to read 
stuff on the screen which otherwise was completely inaccessible.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

 

after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it 
in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition.

Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better 
attempts at a feature.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 






On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B. mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of 
apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings.
 
But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off!  LOL  
LOL 
 

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM

Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

 

First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about 
until iOS 15.

 

To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.

If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.

 

I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it 
disappeared from Quick Settings.  

When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone 
before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that is what I 
did.

 

My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings.  
There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings 
instead of in the Rotor.  

 

Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. 
 It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about 
bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you 
wanted to jump by headings, etc.

 

You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it 
helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and 
double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default 
to on.

 

HTH,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

[Christopher Chaltain]

And if I recall correctly, the popup said something about a week or two and not 
just a couple of days.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

Yes, I did read the system message about transitioning and possibly slow 
updates, but that was days ago.


Yes, I'm on BARD 2.00.806.


On 10/5/2022 2:55 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> I believe they are in transition with some server updates and had provided a 
> message in the app about knowing that NLS is slower than normal about updates 
> to the library.
> Did you update your app?
>
> Give it another try as sometimes the wish list is also slow to populate.  If 
> it is still showing empty, try tomorrow, then contact your regional library.  
> They may know something more.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
> Matzura
> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?
>
> I visited my wish list last night, as I do about once a month to download 
> subscriptions--or rather, I tried to download them, but like the nursery 
> rhyme, when I got there, the cupboard was bare. Now, I know for sure there 
> are at least three monthly magazines which have September issues, and it's 
> now October, but they're not there. Neither are the biweeklies, and there 
> should be at least three issues of each, too. All the items I think I should 
> be finding in the wish list are still subscribed because for each one, I'm 
> offered the option of unsubscribing. Is NLS just a little slow on updating 
> recent issues, or is there something maybe I'm supposed to do to correctly 
> transition to Bard 2.0 of which I was unaware?

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Re: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

[Steve Matzura]

Yes, I did read the system message about transitioning and possibly slow 
updates, but that was days ago.



Yes, I'm on BARD 2.00.806.


On 10/5/2022 2:55 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I believe they are in transition with some server updates and had provided a 
message in the app about knowing that NLS is slower than normal about updates 
to the library.
Did you update your app?

Give it another try as sometimes the wish list is also slow to populate.  If it 
is still showing empty, try tomorrow, then contact your regional library.  They 
may know something more.

HTH,


Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

I visited my wish list last night, as I do about once a month to download 
subscriptions--or rather, I tried to download them, but like the nursery rhyme, 
when I got there, the cupboard was bare. Now, I know for sure there are at 
least three monthly magazines which have September issues, and it's now 
October, but they're not there. Neither are the biweeklies, and there should be 
at least three issues of each, too. All the items I think I should be finding 
in the wish list are still subscribed because for each one, I'm offered the 
option of unsubscribing. Is NLS just a little slow on updating recent issues, 
or is there something maybe I'm supposed to do to correctly transition to Bard 
2.0 of which I was unaware?


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RE: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

[Richard Turner]

I believe they are in transition with some server updates and had provided a 
message in the app about knowing that NLS is slower than normal about updates 
to the library.
Did you update your app?

Give it another try as sometimes the wish list is also slow to populate.  If it 
is still showing empty, try tomorrow, then contact your regional library.  They 
may know something more.

HTH,


Richard, USA.
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

I visited my wish list last night, as I do about once a month to download 
subscriptions--or rather, I tried to download them, but like the nursery rhyme, 
when I got there, the cupboard was bare. Now, I know for sure there are at 
least three monthly magazines which have September issues, and it's now 
October, but they're not there. Neither are the biweeklies, and there should be 
at least three issues of each, too. All the items I think I should be finding 
in the wish list are still subscribed because for each one, I'm offered the 
option of unsubscribing. Is NLS just a little slow on updating recent issues, 
or is there something maybe I'm supposed to do to correctly transition to Bard 
2.0 of which I was unaware?

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Re: Any recommendations?

[Keith Kramlinger]

Hi,
I have the Anker wireless magnetic charger. I like the size, and it seems to 
work well, although both the charger and the phone get quite warm. Is this 
other peoples experience as well?
Thanks in advance. Keith USAHi,
I have the Anker wireless magnetic charger. I like the size, and it seems to 
work well, although both the charger on the phone get quite warm. Is this other 
peoples experience as well?
Thanks in advance. Keith USA

> On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I agree. A wireless charger isn't necessary, but like Sieghard, I do find it 
> a bit more convenient, so I don't regret what I've spent on wireless 
> chargers. I don't have a mag safe charger, but I do have a leather case. I 
> don't know what kind of marks a mag safe charger leaves on leather cases, but 
> IMHO, one of the appeals of a leather case is how they wear over time and 
> become uniquely yours.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Any recommendations?
> 
> Everybody has their preference, I personally find a charging pad much more 
> convenient, I have one at my desk at work, on my bedside table and in the 
> living room and just putting the phone down on the charging pad to me is 
> easier than having to grab a cable and plug it in. Then of course there is 
> the fact that I still really like to use the wired Earpods and I couldn't use 
> them if I had my phone plugged in to charge unless I buy one of these 
> splitters which would mean another gadget which is sitting around and which 
> ultimately ends up in the landfill because by all indications the iPhone 15 
> will have a USB-C port so at that point all the Lightning cables and such 
> will start to become obsolede.
> I have an iPhone 11 and have no plans to upgrade until the earliest next year 
> when the iPhone 15 will be released so I don't have MagSafe but if I were 
> tempted to upgrade than it would also be to an iPhone 14 Pro because of LiDAR 
> and MagSafe. My only complaint with wireless charging is that it is 
> relatively easy to move the phone especially if I use my wired Earpods in the 
> evening, not difficult to pull a bit on them and the phone is out of position 
> to charge, MagSafe would prevent this since the phone is stuck on the 
> charger. It would also be a lot easier to use an external battery with 
> Magsafe technology, once again, it would leave the Lightning port available 
> for a wired headset and I wouldn't need a cable to connect the phone to the 
> battery.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 7:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
> 
> I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad still needs 
> to be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
> Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable marks in 
> the leather case, destroying its elegance.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the 
>> Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade 
>> to and they had them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but 
>> I cannot swear to that as my friend bought it for me as a thank you 
>> for my help.  She ended up getting a 12 pro and the same charger plus 
>> Airpods and the whole 9 yards.
>> I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
>> In any case, always ask before buying.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: 
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Cris Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>> 
>> Thanks Richard,
>> Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter 
>> or one has to order it separately?
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
>>> 
>>> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I 
>>> think it was about $10.
>>> I've never damaged a screen on 

Is BARD 2 fully operational or broken?

[Steve Matzura]

I visited my wish list last night, as I do about once a month to 
download subscriptions--or rather, I tried to download them, but like 
the nursery rhyme, when I got there, the cupboard was bare. Now, I know 
for sure there are at least three monthly magazines which have September 
issues, and it's now October, but they're not there. Neither are the 
biweeklies, and there should be at least three issues of each, too. All 
the items I think I should be finding in the wish list are still 
subscribed because for each one, I'm offered the option of 
unsubscribing. Is NLS just a little slow on updating recent issues, or 
is there something maybe I'm supposed to do to correctly transition to 
Bard 2.0 of which I was unaware?


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Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

[Keith Kramlinger]

hi,
Can some who use this feature productively please explain best use scenarios?
Thanks in advance. Keith USA


On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


It does what it is supposed to do and in quite a few cases I was able to read 
stuff on the screen which otherwise was completely inaccessible.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it 
in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition.
Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better 
attempts at a feature.



Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B.  wrote:

I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of 
apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings.

But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off!  LOL  
LOL



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM
Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about 
until iOS 15.

To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.
If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.

I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it 
disappeared from Quick Settings.
When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone 
before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that is what I 
did.

My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings.  
There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings 
instead of in the Rotor.

Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. 
 It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about 
bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you 
wanted to jump by headings, etc.

You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it 
helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and 
double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default 
to on.

HTH,
Richard, USA.
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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Turning on do not disturb does not prevent somebody from receiving a message, 
they simply don't get a notification, but the message is still delivered.
I think if you were strictly on WiFi with no cell coverage this would happen if 
you send an SMS because I don't think you can send an SMS on just a Wi-Fi data 
connection, only iMessages and of course messages in apps like WhatsApp, 
Facebook Messenger and so on can be sent, but not a regular text message. For 
that you need a good old cell connection.
It is more likely an issue on your end than on their end because strictly 
speaking I don't think you have to turn on the Sent as SMS if iMessage is 
unavailable, this would only effect users of iOS devices who normally get their 
message as an iMessage.
I think if the message fails to send it fails on your end.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

The other possibility is either the number was wrong, or for some reason the 
person isn’t receiving messages at the time; maybe they have do not disturb on 
or something.  This is worth checking with Apple Accessibility. 877-204-3930




Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

I will check my settings and this has happened both on wifi and cellular.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

If Send As SMS is turned on in Message settings, that should allow for sending 
to non-iPhone users.
That sounds more like a network error.  Are you on Wi-Fi when this happens?  If 
so, try rebooting the Wi-Fi router.

If on cellular, then I would bet it is a network issue.

I have never had a faled to send error.

If you are sending audio or pictures, also make sure Send As MMS is on.




Richard, USA.
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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question

It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!
Harry UK

On 5 Oct 2022, at 16:06, Carla 
mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually 
happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in 
settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.

Carla

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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Make sure you turn on the setting to send as text message if iMessage is 
unavailable. Almost sounds like it has to do with the carrier, it almost never 
happens to me whether I send as iMessage or as text message.


From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question

It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!
Harry UK


On 5 Oct 2022, at 16:06, Carla  wrote:

Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually 
happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in 
settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.

Carla

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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Carolyn]

In my case, SMS set; number right - still, says failed to send. Yet, I get 
replies. I guess that makes sense to someone. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

The other possibility is either the number was wrong, or for some reason the 
person isn’t receiving messages at the time; maybe they have do not disturb on 
or something.  This is worth checking with Apple Accessibility. 877-204-3930

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

 

I will check my settings and this has happened both on wifi and cellular.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

 

If Send As SMS is turned on in Message settings, that should allow for sending 
to non-iPhone users.

That sounds more like a network error.  Are you on Wi-Fi when this happens?  If 
so, try rebooting the Wi-Fi router.

 

If on cellular, then I would bet it is a network issue.

 

I have never had a faled to send error.

 

If you are sending audio or pictures, also make sure Send As MMS is on.

 

 

 

 

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“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question

 

It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!

Harry UK 

 

On 5 Oct 2022, at 16:06, Carla mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it 
usually happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any 
place in settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.

 

Carla

 

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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Carla]

The people I send to do not get them.  After several tries it finally goes 
through.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

That happens to me, and the recipient always gets what failed to send - go 
figure. The reason I know they get them is because of replies I get back from 
them. 

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Subject: Text Messaging Question

Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually 
happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in 
settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.
 
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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Carolyn]

SMS is on in mine. 

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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

If Send As SMS is turned on in Message settings, that should allow for sending 
to non-iPhone users.

That sounds more like a network error.  Are you on Wi-Fi when this happens?  If 
so, try rebooting the Wi-Fi router.

 

If on cellular, then I would bet it is a network issue.

 

I have never had a faled to send error.

 

If you are sending audio or pictures, also make sure Send As MMS is on.

 

 

 

 

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question

 

It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!

Harry UK 





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Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it 
usually happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any 
place in settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.

 

Carla

 

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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Carolyn]

That happens to me, and the recipient always gets what failed to send - go 
figure. The reason I know they get them is because of replies I get back from 
them. 

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Carla
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text Messaging Question

Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually 
happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in 
settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.
 
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RE: SE 2020

[Carolyn]

Same here. I can't hear it, just guess, assume it sounded and ask my question 
or give command. 

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My new SE 2020 is working fine in that regard too. Although I really don't like 
the new Siri start sound, I can barely hear it since it's so low and quiet.

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On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 8:13 AM Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Sounds like some kind of issue with your phones mike.  I'm on the
latest update and Siri is working just fine.  The only time I have to
repeat myself is when my wifi connection isn't working, or I'm out of
data.

On 10/5/22, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
> Maybe your microphone is dirty or defective, I have no issues with 
Siri
> understanding me, last night I wanted her to do a conversion and my 
wife was
> already sleeping and while I held the iPhone quite close to me I 
basically
> whispered it to Siri and my request was recognized just fine.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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> deidreandlou...@gmail.com  
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: SE 2020
>
> Hello all
> There is another thing happening on my SE 2020 since the first 16 
update. I
> did write up a list and send it on to Apple Assessibility and just got
> disconnected while waiting on hold to talk to them about what I will
> describe below.
>Siri is not responding to my normal tone of voice. I 
have to
> literally yell at the phone (and my echo device) to get her to 
acknowledge I
> have spoken. I know to wait to hear the bonk sound, for lack of a 
better
> term, and either way I wind up having to repeat my request twice, and 
you
> all know how much I like doing that!
>Is there some setting to mark the sensitivity of the
> recognition? I don't mean speech recognition, just regular dictated 
speech,
> once again most of the problems are when I try to use Siri from the 
home
> screen, and I am not within an app. I guess if this persists I will 
simply
> get trained to always do dictation within an edit field in a specific 
App.
>
>Another broken thing:
>If I say go to mail settings or settings for mail, I 
will
> never be taken to those specific settings. This was not the case with
> previous IOS versions.
>And, why is "mentions" in my roter? I did not put it 
there
> and see nothing about it in the roter settings.
> btw, what bugs did 16.2 fix?
>
>Deidre
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RE: Text Messaging Question

[chrisjudge1967]

I find if I’ve just added a contact and attempt to send a message using siri 
for the first time I get the message failed to send. Not always, but quite 
frequently. If I go in and manually compose and send the text it works fine. 
The next time I send with siri it seems fine as well.

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: October 5, 2022 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question

 

It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!

Harry UK 





On 5 Oct 2022, at 16:06, Carla mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually 
happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in 
settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.

 

Carla

 

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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Carla]

Thanks Richard.  I was going to do that but wanted to ask here first.  I will 
give them a call.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question
 
The other possibility is either the number was wrong, or for some reason the 
person isn’t receiving messages at the time; maybe they have do not disturb on 
or something.  This is worth checking with Apple Accessibility. 877-204-3930
 
 
 
 
Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question
 
I will check my settings and this has happened both on wifi and cellular.
 
 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question
 
If Send As SMS is turned on in Message settings, that should allow for sending 
to non-iPhone users.
That sounds more like a network error.  Are you on Wi-Fi when this happens?  If 
so, try rebooting the Wi-Fi router.
 
If on cellular, then I would bet it is a network issue.
 
I have never had a faled to send error.
 
If you are sending audio or pictures, also make sure Send As MMS is on.
 
 
 
 
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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question
 
It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!
Harry UK 
 
On 5 Oct 2022, at 16:06, Carla mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually 
happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in 
settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.
 
Carla
 
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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Richard Turner]

The other possibility is either the number was wrong, or for some reason the 
person isn’t receiving messages at the time; maybe they have do not disturb on 
or something.  This is worth checking with Apple Accessibility. 877-204-3930

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

 

I will check my settings and this has happened both on wifi and cellular.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question

 

If Send As SMS is turned on in Message settings, that should allow for sending 
to non-iPhone users.

That sounds more like a network error.  Are you on Wi-Fi when this happens?  If 
so, try rebooting the Wi-Fi router.

 

If on cellular, then I would bet it is a network issue.

 

I have never had a faled to send error.

 

If you are sending audio or pictures, also make sure Send As MMS is on.

 

 

 

 

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“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question

 

It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!

Harry UK 

 

On 5 Oct 2022, at 16:06, Carla mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually 
happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in 
settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.

 

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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Carla]

I will check my settings and this has happened both on wifi and cellular.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text Messaging Question
 
If Send As SMS is turned on in Message settings, that should allow for sending 
to non-iPhone users.
That sounds more like a network error.  Are you on Wi-Fi when this happens?  If 
so, try rebooting the Wi-Fi router.
 
If on cellular, then I would bet it is a network issue.
 
I have never had a faled to send error.
 
If you are sending audio or pictures, also make sure Send As MMS is on.
 
 
 
 
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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question
 
It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!
Harry UK 
 
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RE: Text Messaging Question

[Richard Turner]

If Send As SMS is turned on in Message settings, that should allow for sending 
to non-iPhone users.

That sounds more like a network error.  Are you on Wi-Fi when this happens?  If 
so, try rebooting the Wi-Fi router.

 

If on cellular, then I would bet it is a network issue.

 

I have never had a faled to send error.

 

If you are sending audio or pictures, also make sure Send As MMS is on.

 

 

 

 

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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text Messaging Question

 

It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with 
iPhones!

Harry UK 





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Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually 
happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in 
settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks.

 

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Re: Text Messaging Question

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It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with iPhones!Harry UK On 5 Oct 2022, at 16:06, Carla  wrote:Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks. Carla 



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Text Messaging Question

[Carla]

Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I've noticed it usually
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Re: SE 2020

[Devin Prater]

My new SE 2020 is working fine in that regard too. Although I really don't
like the new Siri start sound, I can barely hear it since it's so low and
quiet.
Devin Prater
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On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 8:13 AM Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

> Sounds like some kind of issue with your phones mike.  I'm on the
> latest update and Siri is working just fine.  The only time I have to
> repeat myself is when my wifi connection isn't working, or I'm out of
> data.
>
> On 10/5/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> > Maybe your microphone is dirty or defective, I have no issues with Siri
> > understanding me, last night I wanted her to do a conversion and my wife
> was
> > already sleeping and while I held the iPhone quite close to me I
> basically
> > whispered it to Siri and my request was recognized just fine.
> >
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> > deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:06 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: SE 2020
> >
> > Hello all
> > There is another thing happening on my SE 2020 since the first 16
> update. I
> > did write up a list and send it on to Apple Assessibility and just got
> > disconnected while waiting on hold to talk to them about what I will
> > describe below.
> >Siri is not responding to my normal tone of voice. I have
> to
> > literally yell at the phone (and my echo device) to get her to
> acknowledge I
> > have spoken. I know to wait to hear the bonk sound, for lack of a better
> > term, and either way I wind up having to repeat my request twice, and you
> > all know how much I like doing that!
> >Is there some setting to mark the sensitivity of the
> > recognition? I don't mean speech recognition, just regular dictated
> speech,
> > once again most of the problems are when I try to use Siri from the home
> > screen, and I am not within an app. I guess if this persists I will
> simply
> > get trained to always do dictation within an edit field in a specific
> App.
> >
> >Another broken thing:
> >If I say go to mail settings or settings for mail, I will
> > never be taken to those specific settings. This was not the case with
> > previous IOS versions.
> >And, why is "mentions" in my roter? I did not put it there
> > and see nothing about it in the roter settings.
> > btw, what bugs did 16.2 fix?
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Re: SE 2020

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Sounds like some kind of issue with your phones mike.  I'm on the
latest update and Siri is working just fine.  The only time I have to
repeat myself is when my wifi connection isn't working, or I'm out of
data.

On 10/5/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Maybe your microphone is dirty or defective, I have no issues with Siri
> understanding me, last night I wanted her to do a conversion and my wife was
> already sleeping and while I held the iPhone quite close to me I basically
> whispered it to Siri and my request was recognized just fine.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: SE 2020
>
> Hello all
> There is another thing happening on my SE 2020 since the first 16 update. I
> did write up a list and send it on to Apple Assessibility and just got
> disconnected while waiting on hold to talk to them about what I will
> describe below.
>Siri is not responding to my normal tone of voice. I have to
> literally yell at the phone (and my echo device) to get her to acknowledge I
> have spoken. I know to wait to hear the bonk sound, for lack of a better
> term, and either way I wind up having to repeat my request twice, and you
> all know how much I like doing that!
>Is there some setting to mark the sensitivity of the
> recognition? I don't mean speech recognition, just regular dictated speech,
> once again most of the problems are when I try to use Siri from the home
> screen, and I am not within an app. I guess if this persists I will simply
> get trained to always do dictation within an edit field in a specific App.
>
>Another broken thing:
>If I say go to mail settings or settings for mail, I will
> never be taken to those specific settings. This was not the case with
> previous IOS versions.
>And, why is "mentions" in my roter? I did not put it there
> and see nothing about it in the roter settings.
> btw, what bugs did 16.2 fix?
>
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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have an iPhone 11 which I believe is quite similar to the SE 2020 and I can 
select Screen Recognition in Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Quick 
Settings


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

Hi Holly,

According to Apple Accessibility or, at least the person I talked to, if I were 
to update to iOS16 that would solve the problem but, apparently not.  Maybe 
this only happens with certain model phones?  I would be curious to find out 
what they would say to someone running iOS16 on an SE2020 phone.  Well, I'll 
wait and see what happens.  Thanks for the input.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

Mike:

Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Fair enough, I can duplicate this, but what does it have to do with screen 
recognition?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

Mary, you nailed it.
I should have given that example.
Well done.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. 
Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it 
doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then 
flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have 
changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash 
the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is 
switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. 
I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor 
where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me 
unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen 
recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or 
off. Can you give specific examples about this?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the 
Rotor

After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally 
getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick 
Settings.
The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.
Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.
This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may 
be useful.
To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.

HTH,
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RE: Any recommendations?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree. A wireless charger isn't necessary, but like Sieghard, I do find it a 
bit more convenient, so I don't regret what I've spent on wireless chargers. I 
don't have a mag safe charger, but I do have a leather case. I don't know what 
kind of marks a mag safe charger leaves on leather cases, but IMHO, one of the 
appeals of a leather case is how they wear over time and become uniquely yours.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any recommendations?

Everybody has their preference, I personally find a charging pad much more 
convenient, I have one at my desk at work, on my bedside table and in the 
living room and just putting the phone down on the charging pad to me is easier 
than having to grab a cable and plug it in. Then of course there is the fact 
that I still really like to use the wired Earpods and I couldn't use them if I 
had my phone plugged in to charge unless I buy one of these splitters which 
would mean another gadget which is sitting around and which ultimately ends up 
in the landfill because by all indications the iPhone 15 will have a USB-C port 
so at that point all the Lightning cables and such will start to become 
obsolede.
I have an iPhone 11 and have no plans to upgrade until the earliest next year 
when the iPhone 15 will be released so I don't have MagSafe but if I were 
tempted to upgrade than it would also be to an iPhone 14 Pro because of LiDAR 
and MagSafe. My only complaint with wireless charging is that it is relatively 
easy to move the phone especially if I use my wired Earpods in the evening, not 
difficult to pull a bit on them and the phone is out of position to charge, 
MagSafe would prevent this since the phone is stuck on the charger. It would 
also be a lot easier to use an external battery with Magsafe technology, once 
again, it would leave the Lightning port available for a wired headset and I 
wouldn't need a cable to connect the phone to the battery.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any recommendations?

I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad still needs to 
be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable marks in 
the leather case, destroying its elegance.

Kelly





On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the 
> Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade 
> to and they had them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but 
> I cannot swear to that as my friend bought it for me as a thank you 
> for my help.  She ended up getting a 12 pro and the same charger plus 
> Airpods and the whole 9 yards.
> I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
> In any case, always ask before buying.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: 
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> turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C558be75cd3464050225608daa6cf8ac5
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cris Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks Richard,
> Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter 
> or one has to order it separately?
> Cheers,
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
>>
>> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I 
>> think it was about $10.
>> I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd 
>> Gen. in 2009.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>> the Universe
>>
>> My web site: 
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
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>> -Original Message-

RE: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It does what it is supposed to do and in quite a few cases I was able to read 
stuff on the screen which otherwise was completely inaccessible.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it 
in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition.
Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better 
attempts at a feature.



Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B.  wrote:

I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of 
apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings.

But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off!  LOL  
LOL



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM
Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about 
until iOS 15.

To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.
If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.

I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it 
disappeared from Quick Settings.
When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone 
before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that is what I 
did.

My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings.  
There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings 
instead of in the Rotor.

Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. 
 It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about 
bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you 
wanted to jump by headings, etc.

You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it 
helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and 
double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default 
to on.

HTH,
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RE: SE 2020

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe your microphone is dirty or defective, I have no issues with Siri 
understanding me, last night I wanted her to do a conversion and my wife was 
already sleeping and while I held the iPhone quite close to me I basically 
whispered it to Siri and my request was recognized just fine.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: SE 2020

Hello all
There is another thing happening on my SE 2020 since the first 16 update. I did 
write up a list and send it on to Apple Assessibility and just got disconnected 
while waiting on hold to talk to them about what I will describe below.
   Siri is not responding to my normal tone of voice. I have to 
literally yell at the phone (and my echo device) to get her to acknowledge I 
have spoken. I know to wait to hear the bonk sound, for lack of a better term, 
and either way I wind up having to repeat my request twice, and you all know 
how much I like doing that!
   Is there some setting to mark the sensitivity of the 
recognition? I don't mean speech recognition, just regular dictated speech, 
once again most of the problems are when I try to use Siri from the home 
screen, and I am not within an app. I guess if this persists I will simply get 
trained to always do dictation within an edit field in a specific App.

   Another broken thing:
   If I say go to mail settings or settings for mail, I will never 
be taken to those specific settings. This was not the case with previous IOS 
versions.
   And, why is "mentions" in my roter? I did not put it there and 
see nothing about it in the roter settings.
btw, what bugs did 16.2 fix?

   Deidre
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RE: Any recommendations?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Anker wireless magnetic charger is not that expensive.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any recommendations?

Thanks Kelly,
I can understand your reservations. I thought about what you said but found the 
alternative very expensive.  Buying MagSafe wireless power banks  are very 
expensive. That is the only choice that does not tie you to a wall outlet as 
you charge your device.
Cheers,


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 10:07 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad 
> still needs to be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
> Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable 
> marks in the leather case, destroying its elegance.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at 
>> the Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to 
>> upgrade to and they had them on sale ... I think it came with the 
>> charger, but I cannot swear to that as my friend bought it for me as 
>> a thank you for my help.  She ended up getting a 12 pro and the same 
>> charger plus Airpods and the whole 9 yards.
>> I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
>> In any case, always ask before buying.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Cris Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>> 
>> Thanks Richard,
>> Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter 
>> or one has to order it separately?
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
>>> 
>>> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I 
>>> think it was about $10.
>>> I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd 
>>> Gen. in 2009.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Cris Ali
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Any recommendations?
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3 weeks.
>>> Now I am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I 
>>> need your recommendations based on first hand experience.
>>> First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe 
>>> wireless charger.
>>> Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible 
>>> protective case. I do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent 
>>> ones.
>>> Any recommendations will be appreciated.
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Any recommendations?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Everybody has their preference, I personally find a charging pad much more 
convenient, I have one at my desk at work, on my bedside table and in the 
living room and just putting the phone down on the charging pad to me is easier 
than having to grab a cable and plug it in. Then of course there is the fact 
that I still really like to use the wired Earpods and I couldn't use them if I 
had my phone plugged in to charge unless I buy one of these splitters which 
would mean another gadget which is sitting around and which ultimately ends up 
in the landfill because by all indications the iPhone 15 will have a USB-C port 
so at that point all the Lightning cables and such will start to become 
obsolede.
I have an iPhone 11 and have no plans to upgrade until the earliest next year 
when the iPhone 15 will be released so I don't have MagSafe but if I were 
tempted to upgrade than it would also be to an iPhone 14 Pro because of LiDAR 
and MagSafe. My only complaint with wireless charging is that it is relatively 
easy to move the phone especially if I use my wired Earpods in the evening, not 
difficult to pull a bit on them and the phone is out of position to charge, 
MagSafe would prevent this since the phone is stuck on the charger. It would 
also be a lot easier to use an external battery with Magsafe technology, once 
again, it would leave the Lightning port available for a wired headset and I 
wouldn't need a cable to connect the phone to the battery.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any recommendations?

I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad still needs to 
be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable marks in 
the leather case, destroying its elegance.

Kelly





On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the 
> Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade 
> to and they had them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but 
> I cannot swear to that as my friend bought it for me as a thank you 
> for my help.  She ended up getting a 12 pro and the same charger plus 
> Airpods and the whole 9 yards.
> I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
> In any case, always ask before buying.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cris Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks Richard,
> Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter 
> or one has to order it separately?
> Cheers,
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
>>
>> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I 
>> think it was about $10.
>> I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd 
>> Gen. in 2009.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>> the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Cris Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Any recommendations?
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3 weeks.
>> Now I am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need 
>> your recommendations based on first hand experience.
>> First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe 
>> wireless charger.
>> Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective 
>> case. I do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
>> Any recommendations will be appreciated.
>> Regards
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Re: Any recommendations?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

If I'm out and about, I'll take a portable power bank with me.  I
usually have my power banks in a case, so I have either a short
lightning to USB cable, or short lightning to USBC cable to easily
connect to my iPhone and the charging begins.  It works very well for
me.  I do have a magsafe case, but I don't use it all that much
because magsafe charging is way to slow for me, although it does work.

On 10/4/22, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> But the Mag Safe is tied to a wall outlet.  If you are looking for
> convenience, I have a dedicated wall charging block with a 10 foot USB
> to lightning cable attached to it. It is always connected to the wall.
> Plugging in the iPhone is effortless.  This is a lot less inexpensive
> than the Mag Safe business.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 10/4/22, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Thanks Kelly,
>> I can understand your reservations. I thought about what you said but
>> found
>> the alternative very expensive.  Buying MagSafe wireless power banks  are
>> very expensive. That is the only choice that does not tie you to a wall
>> outlet as you charge your device.
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 10:07 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>>
>>> I was unimpressed with the mag safe technology. The charging pad still
>>> needs to be plugged in so I can just plug in my iPhone once a day.
>>> Also, I wanted a leather case and mag safe chargers make noticeable
>>> marks in the leather case, destroying its elegance.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On 10/4/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
 You know, I bought it last fall when I got my 13 pro; and I was at the
 Verizon store helping a friend sort out what she was going to upgrade
 to
 and
 they had them on sale ... I think it came with the charger, but I
 cannot
 swear to that as my friend bought it for me as a thank you for my help.
 She
 ended up getting a 12 pro and the same charger plus Airpods and the
 whole
 9
 yards.
 I am pretty sure the price included the charger.
 In any case, always ask before buying.





 Richard, USA.
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
 it.”
 --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Cris
 Ali
 Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:08 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Any recommendations?

 Thanks Richard,
 Does the Apple MagSafe Wireless charger come with the 20 What adapter
 or
 one
 has to order it separately?
 Cheers,

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Richard Turner
> 
> wrote:
>
> I bought the Magsafe wireless charger made by Apple.
>
> I just have a very simple, clear, case.  No screen protector.  I think
> it
> was about $10.
> I've never damaged a screen on any iDevice since my iPod Touch 3rd
> Gen.
> in
> 2009.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
> with
> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
> Universe
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Cris Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Any recommendations?
>
> Hi folks,
> I went ahead and ordered iPhone 14 Pro, which I expect to get in 3
> weeks.
> Now I am thinking of buying two accessories for it. Here where I need
> your
> recommendations based on first hand experience.
> First, I need advice on getting asolid and powerful fast magsafe
> wireless
> charger.
> Second, i need advice on getting a good magsafe compatible protective
> case. I do not like the bulky type and I prefer the transparent ones.
> Any recommendations will be appreciated.
> Regards
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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