RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent Update

[Debbie April Yuille]

Thanks. It wasn't easy. I googled the problem and the fix I found was for 
sighted users. So, I realised that I needed to get my focus in the right area, 
then use the shortcut to turn voice over off and on again.

Debbie

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent 
Update

Amazing that you figured that one out, Debbie!

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Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 9:22 PM
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Subject: RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent 
Update

Hi Ron

I've had that problem too. What you need to do, is put your cursor in the text 
area like usual. Then, while keeping your finger in that area, turn voice over 
off then with your finger, do a long press, hopefully when you then turn voice 
over back on, your keyboard should be there.

Hth
Debbie

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Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 2:00 AM
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Subject: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent Update

Hi Group,

I  am wondering if anyone else is seeing this and if there is a fix.

For years now, when using the iPhone, when I double tap an edit field, I get 
the message: 'text field insertion point at start (sometimes insertion point at 
end.' I can then move down to a keyboard with standard QWERTY keys and a 
dictate button and enter/search/go button in the bottom right area.

I hadn't tried entering anything for a week or so and I noticed there had been 
an update to the IOS in the past few days.  Now when I double tap on an edit 
field, I no longer see a QWERTY type keyboard anywhere on screen for me to 
enter text.  There is a dictate button, but nothing else.

is this a bug introduced recently in the latest IOS update? How can I make the 
onscreen keyboard appear as it has for years? Thanks for any help.


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RE: Side button in App Store

[Carolyn Arnold]

Right, I think that the distance is major. 

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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 3:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Side button in App Store

You might want to make sure require attention is toggled off. You can find this 
in Settings -> Face ID and Passcode. If you already have this toggled off then 
experiment with different distances from your face. I was holding the phone too 
close to my face and once I got the distance down, it's now very reliable.

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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:59 PM
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Subject: Re: Side button in App Store

William, getting used to face ID will take some practice.  I get it most of the 
time now, although I have had my iPhone for a little over a year.  Carolyn, how 
could you have an iPhone, and haven't yet downloaded any apps on it.  What 
about things like amazon, bard, or audible, or voice dream reader. The list 
goes on and on.

On 10/21/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have never downloaded anything from the App Store. If I should 
> download Be my A Eyes, what all would I have to do to get it? Then, 
> are there some kind of instructions as to how to use it?
>
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> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
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> Subject: Side button in App Store
>
> Hello.
> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the 
> App Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double 
> click to install.  I seem unable to do this.
> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to 
> set up.  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.
> Bill Outman
>
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RE: Side button in App Store

[Carolyn Arnold]

I managed to download one thing, got the guy that sold my 11 to download Seeing 
AI, but I have never even gone to the App Store, not to mention downloading 
anything from it. 

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Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 2:59 PM
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William, getting used to face ID will take some practice.  I get it most of the 
time now, although I have had my iPhone for a little over a year.  Carolyn, how 
could you have an iPhone, and haven't yet downloaded any apps on it.  What 
about things like amazon, bard, or audible, or voice dream reader. The list 
goes on and on.

On 10/21/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have never downloaded anything from the App Store. If I should 
> download Be my A Eyes, what all would I have to do to get it? Then, 
> are there some kind of instructions as to how to use it?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of William Outman
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
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> Subject: Side button in App Store
>
> Hello.
> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the 
> App Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double 
> click to install.  I seem unable to do this.
> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to 
> set up.  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.
> Bill Outman
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Side button in App Store

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yes, push the side button twice and push it pretty quickly.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
Outman
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Do I need to set something up, say in my Apple account that says I should use 
the side button where the Touch ID would have applied before.  Do you mean just 
push the side button twice?
Bill
D
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Jessica Dail  wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
> All you need to do is double-tap the side button.
> I hope this helps.
> I have an iPhone 13 pro max.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Jessica dail
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William Outman
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
> To: V IPhone List 
> Subject: Side button in App Store
>
> Hello.
> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App 
> Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to 
> install.  I seem unable to do this.
> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set up. 
>  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.
> Bill Outman
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Side button in App Store

[Christopher Chaltain]

You might want to make sure require attention is toggled off. You can find this 
in Settings -> Face ID and Passcode. If you already have this toggled off then 
experiment with different distances from your face. I was holding the phone too 
close to my face and once I got the distance down, it's now very reliable.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Side button in App Store

William, getting used to face ID will take some practice.  I get it most of the 
time now, although I have had my iPhone for a little over a year.  Carolyn, how 
could you have an iPhone, and haven't yet downloaded any apps on it.  What 
about things like amazon, bard, or audible, or voice dream reader. The list 
goes on and on.

On 10/21/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have never downloaded anything from the App Store. If I should
> download Be my A Eyes, what all would I have to do to get it? Then,
> are there some kind of instructions as to how to use it?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of William Outman
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
> To: V IPhone List 
> Subject: Side button in App Store
>
> Hello.
> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the
> App Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double
> click to install.  I seem unable to do this.
> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to
> set up.  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.
> Bill Outman
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Side button in App Store

[Joshua Hendrickson]

William, getting used to face ID will take some practice.  I get it
most of the time now, although I have had my iPhone for a little over
a year.  Carolyn, how could you have an iPhone, and haven't yet
downloaded any apps on it.  What about things like amazon, bard, or
audible, or voice dream reader. The list goes on and on.

On 10/21/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have never downloaded anything from the App Store. If I should download Be
> my A Eyes, what all would I have to do to get it? Then, are there some kind
> of instructions as to how to use it?
>
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> Of William Outman
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
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> Subject: Side button in App Store
>
> Hello.
> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App
> Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to
> install.  I seem unable to do this.
> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set
> up.  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.
> Bill Outman
>
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RE: Side button in App Store

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have never downloaded anything from the App Store. If I should download Be my 
A Eyes, what all would I have to do to get it? Then, are there some kind of 
instructions as to how to use it? 

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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
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Subject: Side button in App Store

Hello. 
I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App Store 
to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to install.  
I seem unable to do this. 
Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set up.  
I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.  
Bill Outman 

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Re: Side button in App Store

[William Outman]

Okay. I got the app I wanted at the moment, one sir my new smart microwave. 
I’ll be using Alexa to control my new Toshiba microwave. It requires their app 
as well. 
Face ID was not recognized but I was able to use my Apple ID password. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2023, at 1:43 PM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> Do I need to set something up, say in my Apple account that says I should 
> use the side button where the Touch ID would have applied before.  Do you 
> mean just push the side button twice?
> Bill
> D
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Jessica Dail  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> All you need to do is double-tap the side button.
>> I hope this helps.
>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Jessica dail
>> 
>> “Alone we can do so little, together we can do so much.”
>> Helen Keller
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> William Outman
>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
>> To: V IPhone List 
>> Subject: Side button in App Store
>> 
>> Hello.
>> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App 
>> Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to 
>> install.  I seem unable to do this.
>> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set 
>> up.  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.  
>> Bill Outman
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Side button in App Store

[William Outman]

Yes, I did, though I am only able to get it to trigger about half the time, as 
I am total. 
Bill 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2023, at 1:43 PM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> Do I need to set something up, say in my Apple account that says I should 
> use the side button where the Touch ID would have applied before.  Do you 
> mean just push the side button twice?
> Bill
> D
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Jessica Dail  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> All you need to do is double-tap the side button.
>> I hope this helps.
>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Jessica dail
>> 
>> “Alone we can do so little, together we can do so much.”
>> Helen Keller
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> William Outman
>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
>> To: V IPhone List 
>> Subject: Side button in App Store
>> 
>> Hello.
>> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App 
>> Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to 
>> install.  I seem unable to do this.
>> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set 
>> up.  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.  
>> Bill Outman
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Side button in App Store

[William Outman]

Do I need to set something up, say in my Apple account that says I should use 
the side button where the Touch ID would have applied before.  Do you mean just 
push the side button twice? 
Bill 
D
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Jessica Dail  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> All you need to do is double-tap the side button.
> I hope this helps.
> I have an iPhone 13 pro max.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jessica dail
> 
> “Alone we can do so little, together we can do so much.”
> Helen Keller
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William Outman
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
> To: V IPhone List 
> Subject: Side button in App Store
> 
> Hello. 
> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App 
> Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to 
> install.  I seem unable to do this. 
> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set up. 
>  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.  
> Bill Outman 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Side button in App Store

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Bill, 

Did you set up face ID on your new 15 Pro? If yes, all you should need to do 
when getting that prompt is to press the right side power button twice. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Oct 21, 2023, at 12:28 PM, William Outman  wrote:
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> Hello. 
> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App 
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> install.  I seem unable to do this. 
> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set up. 
>  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.  
> Bill Outman 
> 
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RE: Side button in App Store

[Jessica Dail]

Hi Bill,
All you need to do is double-tap the side button.
I hope this helps.
I have an iPhone 13 pro max.



Best regards,
Jessica dail

“Alone we can do so little, together we can do so much.”
Helen Keller


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
Outman
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 1:28 PM
To: V IPhone List 
Subject: Side button in App Store

Hello. 
I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App Store 
to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to install.  
I seem unable to do this. 
Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set up.  
I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.  
Bill Outman 

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Side button in App Store

[William Outman]

Hello. 
I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App Store 
to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to install.  
I seem unable to do this. 
Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set up.  
I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.  
Bill Outman 

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Re: IOS 17.03 and side button sound when talking to siri

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I didn't do anything, the vibration was just something I felt when I
held down the side button to activate Siri.  I also just usually  say
the word Siri if I need her to make a call, or ask her a question.

On 10/21/23, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> Try looking at the classic voice control, setting in accessibility for
> Siri.
> Classic Voice Control will respond when you press and hold the Home button.
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 21, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>> Well, I do not feel a vibration on my iPhone 11 when I hold the side
>> button, so is there a setting to set that on?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>>
>>
>>> On 10/21/23, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> There is not as far as I know.  I just wait a second or to after I
>>> feel the vibration when I hold down the side button.  Good luck.
>>>
 On 10/21/23, Fanus  wrote:
 Hello list

 In previous IOS versions I heard a sound when I held the side button,
 so
 I knew siri was listening. In 17.03 the sound is gone so when  I speak
 to soon or too late siri does not understand. Is there a setting to get
 the sound back on?

 Regards

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Re: IOS 17.03 and side button sound when talking to siri

[Jonathan Cohn]

Try looking at the classic voice control, setting in accessibility for Siri.
Classic Voice Control will respond when you press and hold the Home button. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> Well, I do not feel a vibration on my iPhone 11 when I hold the side
> button, so is there a setting to set that on?
> Regards
> Fanus
> 
> 
>> On 10/21/23, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> There is not as far as I know.  I just wait a second or to after I
>> feel the vibration when I hold down the side button.  Good luck.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/23, Fanus  wrote:
>>> Hello list
>>> 
>>> In previous IOS versions I heard a sound when I held the side button, so
>>> I knew siri was listening. In 17.03 the sound is gone so when  I speak
>>> to soon or too late siri does not understand. Is there a setting to get
>>> the sound back on?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Fanus
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Re: Question: Is Anyone Using two eSIM Cards in an iPhone?

[Kelly Pierce]

The benefit Sieghard of locking phones is the great deals companies
offer to attract new business.  They can offer hundreds of dollars off
the cost of a new iPhone.  Often these deals require someone to sign
up for a pricy phone plan they do not need. Over a two or three-year
period, it would be a lot cheaper to pay full price for the iPhone
from Apple and sign up for service from a MVNO.  At other times, the
service can be reasonably priced and the iPhone deal is lucrative.
Consumers need to not just look at the phone discount but the price of
the service as well. Overall, when companies compete for our business,
we win.

Kelly




On 10/20/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> And these days that is so terrible and I really wonder what good they think
> it does.
> Glad our government put a stop to this many years ago now.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 11:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question: Is Anyone Using two eSIM Cards in an iPhone?
>
> Hello, T-Mobile, and AT, are the only ones that still sell locked phones
>
>> On Oct 19, 2023, at 11:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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>> Hello Kathy,
>>
>> If you have a phone which is locked to AT then you will not be able to
>> have a second SIM in the phone from a different provider.
>> I am in Canada, but do carriers in the United States even still lock
>> phones these days?
>> Here in Canada that has been illegal for some years now and it's really a
>> mute point since a locked phone does nothing to force you to stay with one
>> carrier; contracts do that. If you buy an iPhone for example from AT and
>> you have a contract in place where you pay a certain amount each months to
>> pay off the phone, then you can't really leave that obligation whether the
>> phone is locked or not unless you paid out whatever balance is remaining.
>> I also understood that even if you are in a contract of some sort in the
>> past and you had your phone for a certain amount of time, like 3 or 6
>> months, you could then request for the phone to be unlocked. Locking
>> phones is the most ridiculous thing a carrier can do if they in fact still
>> do it given how many people want to travel these days and potentially use
>> a SIM from a provider in a different country for a few weeks.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kathy Brandt
>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 9:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: M. Taylor 
>> Subject: Re: Question: Is Anyone Using two eSIM Cards in an iPhone?
>>
>> I had asked yesterday: does the phone have to be unlocked in order for you
>> to use two cards like that?
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Cory Jackson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am currently using 2 ESims on my iPhone 14.
>>>
>>> You can have them both active at once. They are from 2 different
>>> providers. You can program them both to ring differently and play
>>> different message alert tones. I can see both connections at the top.
>>>
>>> It is working very well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Cory Jackson
>>>
>>>
 On 10/18/2023 1:21 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 Is anyone currently using two eSIM cards on an iPhone?  You know,
 using one telephone number as a primary and a second number as a
 secondary number?

 If so, how is that working for you?

 Also, If you do have 2 eSIM cards currently installed, are they from
 different wireless providers?

 All replies greatly appreciated.

 Mark


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Re: IOS 17.03 and side button sound when talking to siri

[Fanus Buys]

Hello
Well, I do not feel a vibration on my iPhone 11 when I hold the side
button, so is there a setting to set that on?
Regards
Fanus


On 10/21/23, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> There is not as far as I know.  I just wait a second or to after I
> feel the vibration when I hold down the side button.  Good luck.
>
> On 10/21/23, Fanus  wrote:
>> Hello list
>>
>> In previous IOS versions I heard a sound when I held the side button, so
>> I knew siri was listening. In 17.03 the sound is gone so when  I speak
>> to soon or too late siri does not understand. Is there a setting to get
>> the sound back on?
>>
>> Re    gards
>>
>> Fanu        s
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Re: IOS 17.03 and side button sound when talking to siri

[Joshua Hendrickson]

There is not as far as I know.  I just wait a second or to after I
feel the vibration when I hold down the side button.  Good luck.

On 10/21/23, Fanus  wrote:
> Hello list
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> In previous IOS versions I heard a sound when I held the side button, so
> I knew siri was listening. In 17.03 the sound is gone so when  I speak
> to soon or too late siri does not understand. Is there a setting to get
> the sound back on?
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> Re    gards
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IOS 17.03 and side button sound when talking to siri

[Fanus]

Hello list

In previous IOS versions I heard a sound when I held the side button, so 
I knew siri was listening. In 17.03 the sound is gone so when  I speak 
to soon or too late siri does not understand. Is there a setting to get 
the sound back on?


Re    gards

Fanu        s


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Re: How do I lock the orientation of my Ipad?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Or (independent if it’s without or with a HOme Button), focus on where you have 
the time, battery nd others, and swipe 3 fingers up (instead of down for the 
NOtification Center). Good luck!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 21 oct 2023, a la(s) 7:36 a.m., Matt White  escribió:
> 
> You are looking at the settings panel for the control center, you need the 
> actual control center.
> If it’s a newer device without a home button, you can pull down from the top 
> of the screen, two clicks, instead of three like you do for notifications.
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 21, 2023, at 09:29, realman02 via VIPhone  
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>> Somehow the orientation (portrait) of my Ipad got unlocked and shifts from 
>> Portrait to Landscape. I looked on google and saw info purportedly telling 
>> me how to fix this by going into Control Center and locking the orientation. 
>> I've gone into Control Center under Settings on both my Ipad and Iphone and 
>> I don't see any such setting to change. How do I lock my Ipad in portrait 
>> mode?
>> Thanks John
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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

[chrisjudge1967]

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Kriegler
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi. I’m using the Arteck Bluetooth keyboards on both my apple TVS and I’m 
having the same experience, so it isn’t just Logetech.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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 On Behalf Of chrisjudge1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Kriegler
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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Re: How do I lock the orientation of my Ipad?

[Matt White]

You are looking at the settings panel for the control center, you need the 
actual control center.
If it’s a newer device without a home button, you can pull down from the top of 
the screen, two clicks, instead of three like you do for notifications.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2023, at 09:29, realman02 via VIPhone  
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> Somehow the orientation (portrait) of my Ipad got unlocked and shifts from 
> Portrait to Landscape. I looked on google and saw info purportedly telling me 
> how to fix this by going into Control Center and locking the orientation. 
> I've gone into Control Center under Settings on both my Ipad and Iphone and I 
> don't see any such setting to change. How do I lock my Ipad in portrait mode?
> Thanks John
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How do I lock the orientation of my Ipad?

[realman02 via VIPhone]

Somehow the orientation (portrait) of my Ipad got unlocked and shifts from 
Portrait to Landscape. I looked on google and saw info purportedly telling me 
how to fix this by going into Control Center and locking the orientation. I've 
gone into Control Center under Settings on both my Ipad and Iphone and I don't 
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven't had any problems with IOS 17 and my braille displays. In fact, I 
think things have gotten better, and I see a few new features related to 
braille displays that I still need to experiment with.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
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Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

There is no advantage to wait, in the current release of iOS 17 there are no 
major issues which are fixed in iOS 17.1, at least not to my knowledge.
Some people seem to be having issues with braille displays, but since I have 
never used one and never will I can't speak to this and it would appear from 
the messages I have seen, that the problems may have to do with the particular 
set of settings on a phone because other people who use the same braille 
display don't have them.
It's unfortunate that Apple seems to be introducing issues which are 
specifically related to certain settings as these are hard to pin down.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 16.6.1.

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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
>
> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it
> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>
>
> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems
> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular,
> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't
> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone
> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration
> sound to fall back on.
>
>
> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor,
> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your
>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went
>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not
>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
 Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
 volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For
 whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower
 than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set
 fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm
 still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish
 noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the
 sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that
 case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the
 sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the
 record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.

 Warmly,
 Wayne

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RE: Is it possible to uninstall an app?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yes, find the Alexa app on your home page and flick down and double tap on the 
edit option. Now that you're in edit mode, make sure you're on the Alexa app 
and flick down to delete and double tap. You now have the choice to remove your 
app from the home screen or delete it. You want to double tap on delete. Now 
you can go into the App Store and redownload it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is it possible to uninstall an app?

Hello,

I have iPhone SC20 and iOS 16. I installed Alexa, but Alexa doesn't talk to me. 
I think that happens because I didn't read aloud something when I opened the 
app for the first time. I would like to uninstall it and install it again.
Is it possible? If so, please, explain how.

Rena
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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

[Carolyn Arnold]

I don't have a braille display or a peripheral keyboard, so maybe I'll be all 
right with the update. 

-Original Message-
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 10:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

There is no advantage to wait, in the current release of iOS 17 there are no 
major issues which are fixed in iOS 17.1, at least not to my knowledge.
Some people seem to be having issues with braille displays, but since I have 
never used one and never will I can't speak to this and it would appear from 
the messages I have seen, that the problems may have to do with the particular 
set of settings on a phone because other people who use the same braille 
display don't have them.
It's unfortunate that Apple seems to be introducing issues which are 
specifically related to certain settings as these are hard to pin down.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 16.6.1. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matt White
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> 
> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds. 
> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing. 
> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular, 
> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't 
> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone 
> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration 
> sound to fall back on.
> 
> 
> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
 Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the 
 volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
 whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower 
 than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set 
 fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm 
 still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish 
 noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the 
 sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that 
 case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the 
 sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the 
 record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
 
 Warmly,
 Wayne
 
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RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent Update

[Carolyn Arnold]

Amazing that you figured that one out, Debbie!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent 
Update

Hi Ron

I've had that problem too. What you need to do, is put your cursor in the text 
area like usual. Then, while keeping your finger in that area, turn voice over 
off then with your finger, do a long press, hopefully when you then turn voice 
over back on, your keyboard should be there.

Hth
Debbie

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 2:00 AM
To: ViPhone List 
Subject: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent Update

Hi Group,

I  am wondering if anyone else is seeing this and if there is a fix.

For years now, when using the iPhone, when I double tap an edit field, I get 
the message: 'text field insertion point at start (sometimes insertion point at 
end.' I can then move down to a keyboard with standard QWERTY keys and a 
dictate button and enter/search/go button in the bottom right area.

I hadn't tried entering anything for a week or so and I noticed there had been 
an update to the IOS in the past few days.  Now when I double tap on an edit 
field, I no longer see a QWERTY type keyboard anywhere on screen for me to 
enter text.  There is a dictate button, but nothing else.

is this a bug introduced recently in the latest IOS update? How can I make the 
onscreen keyboard appear as it has for years? Thanks for any help.


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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

[Carolyn Arnold]

That will be great. That will be about the time that my daughter-in-love's new 
15 Pro Max will arrive. 

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Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

Supposedly this coming Monday, the 24th of October, according to a recent 
article in "Mac Rumors".
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 20 oct 2023, a la(s) 5:54 p.m., Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
> escribió:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in 
>> particular, the default tones for in coming texts and push 
>> notifications doesn't seem to be as loud as with previous versions of 
>> iOS, so if the phone is across the room and I get a text, I at least 
>> have the vibration sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
 On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
 What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
 notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
 back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
 very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
 
 
 
 Lisa Belville
 missktlab1...@frontier.com
 
 On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust 
> the volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be 
> lower than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume 
> set fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, 
> but I'm still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, 
> the swish noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I 
> understand the sound volume is lower for the default notification 
> sounds. In that case though I have my phone set to vibrate along 
> with making the sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise 
> the volume? For the record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
> 
> Warmly,
> Wayne
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have a 14 Pro. I have just heard of so many issues with 17, that I decided to 
wait for 17.1. 

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Matt White
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 8:45 PM
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If you are still running 16.6, I wonder if your phone is maybe not supported 
with iOS 17.
What model phone do you have?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:54, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in 
>> particular, the default tones for in coming texts and push 
>> notifications doesn't seem to be as loud as with previous versions of 
>> iOS, so if the phone is across the room and I get a text, I at least 
>> have the vibration sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
 On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
 What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
 notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
 back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
 very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
 
 
 
 Lisa Belville
 missktlab1...@frontier.com
 
 On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust 
> the volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be 
> lower than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume 
> set fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, 
> but I'm still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, 
> the swish noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I 
> understand the sound volume is lower for the default notification 
> sounds. In that case though I have my phone set to vibrate along 
> with making the sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise 
> the volume? For the record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
> 
> Warmly,
> Wayne
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

[Carolyn Arnold]

Good to know; thanks. I look forward to getting it. 

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Julian
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

iOS 17.1 should be coming up next week. The release candidate was made 
available earlier this week so barring any showstoppers, everybody should be 
getting it sometime early next week.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 4:54 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in 
>> particular, the default tones for in coming texts and push 
>> notifications doesn't seem to be as loud as with previous versions of 
>> iOS, so if the phone is across the room and I get a text, I at least 
>> have the vibration sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
 On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
 What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
 notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
 back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
 very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
 
 
 
 Lisa Belville
 missktlab1...@frontier.com
 
 On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust 
> the volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be 
> lower than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume 
> set fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, 
> but I'm still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, 
> the swish noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I 
> understand the sound volume is lower for the default notification 
> sounds. In that case though I have my phone set to vibrate along 
> with making the sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise 
> the volume? For the record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
> 
> Warmly,
> Wayne
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Is it possible to uninstall an app?

[Rena]

Hello,

 

I have iPhone SC20 and iOS 16. I installed Alexa, but Alexa doesn't talk to
me. I think that happens because I didn't read aloud something when I opened
the app for the first time. I would like to uninstall it and install it
again.

Is it possible? If so, please, explain how.

 

Rena

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