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Incoming call name announcement

[MARILYN AND DON BILDERBACK]

When a call comes into my cell phone, unless I am holding it or have it
very nearby, I can never catch the announcement.  Whether unknown call or
the name of a person in my contacts, I fail to know what it said.  Is
there a solution? 

 

Marilyn

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RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

[MARILYN AND DON BILDERBACK]

Carolyn,  me too!  My husband describes all kinds of things as we drive or eat 
out in a restaurant.  He will do this without me asking and I love to know what 
is around me.  

Onetime while eating out with a friend in another state, Don mentioned that 
their were canoes attached to the ceiling in a Mexican food place that our 
friend goes to often.  She was astonished because in all the times she was 
there, no one ever told her about the décor. What good do these descriptions do 
for me as I can see nothing anymore?  The information makes me feel more a part 
of the world.  I was interested in stuff when I could see and still enjoy the 
explanations.   

Whatever a person wants or needs is the right thing for them.  Not all people 
would like what I like. What fun to know your mind works kinda like mine.  Lol

Marilyn 



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:55 AM
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Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I asked Jim what he looked like, when we first started seeing each other. I 
want to know what color everything is, what kind of cars everyone drives, 
what's in style, all that sight stuff that I don't have now. I want to know 
what color the furniture is, what color the floor covering, cabinets and on and 
on. 

I guess what people look like too, and some of us laugh at my guesses. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

You may have a point here as I am interested to know what people look like and 
amsurprised when they turn out not to be at all like I'd imagined.
It troubles me a little to realise, as I write this, that I have no idea what 
my husband now looks like. If he went missing, there is very little I could say 
to help find him.
Alison


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 4:20 PM
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I agree with Sieghard. My guess, and this is only a guess is that the ones of 
us who have had some or full sight are more willing to hear what Be My A I 
might say about our expression. 

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:05 AM
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Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I would agree with Sieghard, but I suspect what Mary and others are getting at 
is not what they choose to use or not but what others are using and how that 
might affect how they interpret the world based on those AI generated 
descriptions. As Mary says though, anytime you're getting a description from 
another source, even if it's a sighted person, it isn't going to be free of 
interpretation.

Reminds me of a friend of mine in college who was helping me pick out a 
greeting card. She told me she would just describe the card to me and wouldn't 
be subjective at all. Later on she described a card as "yucky yellow." We had a 
good laugh over that, but I didn't get that card.

For those who don't want any kind of interpretation of a description coming 
from an AI, I wonder what they would consider an acceptable description. I'd 
find it interesting if someone took a response from Be My AI and then 
sterilized it into what they would find acceptable. I'm guessing that the more 
sterile descriptions wouldn't be nearly as popular and most people find the 
interpretation of the image as one of the more interesting parts of the 
description.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

Anybody who does not like or agree with some of the interpretations of the AI 
is free not to use the service.
Just as you may not appreciate it, I have so far felt that even descriptions 
which included descriptions of facial expressions were actually amazingly 
correct when I asked sighted people to tell me what they thought of the 
desdcription and whether they agtreed that the interpretation was good or not.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 7:37 PM
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I do not want to know what some artificial intelligence thinks somebody’s 
expression means. Cultural stuff hugely influences that sort of thing. And as a 
totally blind person from birth, I can’t tell you how many times people

RE: HEY SIRI IS INCONSISTENT

[MARILYN AND DON BILDERBACK]

Yes, mine started this just recently also. I have a SE 3 phone and even her 
voice seems to be changed and she has a different response when she does 
finally, if ever, speak.

Marilyn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John J. 
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2023 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: HEY SIRI IS INCONSISTENT

 

Good morning:

 

I am using the iPhone SE. When I say: “hey Siri” many times it doesn’t respond, 
sometimes it does. Has anyone encountered this inconsistency, and if so are 
there any suggestions?

 

Thank you. 

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Tracking steps on Phone

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

In health, select the browse tab, and then the profile button in the very top.

Fill out all the information.

You can opt to share it or not.

I think after you have the profile filled out, and selected what you want for 
notifications, the summary should include activity at the bottom of the screen 
which will include steps.

If you double tap on steps you can select day, week, month, year 

In order to look day by day, you need to double tap the Week button in the 
Steps screen of the Health app.

Once you do this,  you will be able to look at each day and see the total steps 
in that day.

Or, install Pedometer++ and try it out.

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toDISABLE, deleteOR MOVE an app from my IPHONE

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Go to any Home Screen, touch an app, flick up or down to edit Mode, and 
double-tap. Now find the app you want to move. Flick down to the Drag option 
and double-tap. Touch an app or folder that you want to be to its left or 
right. Then flick down until you get to the Drop option you want, and 
double-tap.

Edit mode will close a few seconds later, or you can do the Home gesture or 
press the Home button to exit.

Check Restrictions to confirm that the ability to delete apps is turned on. 
Settings, General, Restrictions,

will take you to where you need to be to check the setting.

 

press and hold on the app you want to remove. it will say editing. 

it will pull up a context menu that says remove app, tap on that,

and then it will give you options to delete from iPhone or remove from home 
screen.

tap delete and it will be removed.

 

Here is how I delete apps. 

1. Flick to the app you wish to delete.

2. Flick up till you reach the "edit" option and double tap it. 

3. Flick down till you reach the "delete" option and double tap it.

At this point you should get a screen that offers the "remove" option, an 
explanation of the remove function,

And the "delete" option and an explanation of the delete function. 

4. Double tap the "delete" option.

Placing yourself in "edit" mode, step #2,  is key to this operation.

 

1.  Place focus on the app to be deleted on your home screen and single 
finger triple tap.
2.  A context menu will open and focus should be on Remove app and you 
should single finger double tap the screen.
3.  Another screen will open with a heading of Remove and the app’s name.
4.  Single finger swipe right until you hear delete app and single finger 
double tap on the screen to delete it.
5.  A confirmation screen will open and you must single finger swipe right 
to the Delete button and double tap to complete the process.

 

1. position yourself on the app you want to delete and swipe down with one 
finger to, Edit, and do a single finger double tap, and you should hear, 
started editing.

2. Swipe down with one finger to, Delete, and do a single finger double tap and 
you should hear, Remove... 

Now swipe right to, Delete app, and do a single finger double tap.  I forget if 
there's a confirmation dialog, but if there is, tap on yes.

 

Double tap and hold on the desired app icon. Wait till you hear a three chime 
tone 

drag your finger around to where you wish to move the app  To another screen by 
dragging it to the edge of the device

and waiting for the sound indicator to notify you of the screen change or on to 
a folder and wait for the folder to open with a distinctive sound letting you 
know that the folder is opening.

Press the home button to get out of that edit mode where you can rearrange apps 
or delete them

 

Go to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Rotor actions, and single finger 
swipe right once to Edit apps on home screen  and make sure the switch is 
turned on.

 

To DISABLE AN ADD ON: 

Once you have found the add-on, press Alt plus d, which will disable it.

Check whether there are any others it might be, and if so, do the same to them.

Then press Alt plus c. You will be asked to restart NVDA, press enter.

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RE: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger?

[Don ball]

Yes it does the lightning port is on the phone and is a bit smaller than the USB c port on the other end of the cable. You can use a lightning to USB  a witch is the big USB  port and will fit most of your old charging stuff, your older computer etc.  Your iPhone 8 cable should fit on your iPhone 12 with no problem and you can still find that old cable every where. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Fazil M.Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 12:07 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger? Thank you, Don.Again, sorry for my insufficient jargons,does iPhone12 have lightning port? Is lightning port the one that goes in the phone or in the charger? Thanks!From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don ballSent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 8:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger? As long as you have a lightning port on the apple end of the cable you can use either charger. I am sure you can find both chargers at your local Walmart. This is happening because The EU. Witch has a big market share in the world is standardizing the usb c port. So you can use either charger with two ports. You just have to decide if you want one with type a ports or type c ports witch is the new standard. As long is there is a lightning port on one end of the cable. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Fazil M.Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 10:39 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger? Hi, Group.I am ashamed of my scanty vocabulary.I have iPhone8 and 12. the cable-ends of these phones that go in charger are different from each-other.What Are these two ends called?The reason I am asking this is that I need a charger that has two ports that can accept iPhone12 and one port for iPhone8.What should I look for on Amazon or in any other store?Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS7PR20MB41591F14597DA3F2ED0557CAC9A79%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/12BC3F4E-3548-47DB-AAB3-68F2EDC0EF8E%40hxcore.ol.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS7PR20MB415991E8FD919FB4F2DA842BC9A79%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. 



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RE: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger?

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As long as you have a lightning port on the apple end of the cable you can use either charger. I am sure you can find both chargers at your local Walmart. This is happening because The EU. Witch has a big market share in the world is standardizing the usb c port. So you can use either charger with two ports. You just have to decide if you want one with type a ports or type c ports witch is the new standard. As long is there is a lightning port on one end of the cable. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Fazil M.Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 10:39 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger? Hi, Group.I am ashamed of my scanty vocabulary.I have iPhone8 and 12. the cable-ends of these phones that go in charger are different from each-other.What Are these two ends called?The reason I am asking this is that I need a charger that has two ports that can accept iPhone12 and one port for iPhone8.What should I look for on Amazon or in any other store?Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS7PR20MB41591F14597DA3F2ED0557CAC9A79%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. 



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How to delete an ap from my IPHONE

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marilyn 
and Don Bilderback
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to delete an ap from my IPHONE

 

Go to any Home Screen, touch an app, flick up or down to edit Mode, and 
double-tap. Now find the app you want to move. Flick down to the Drag option 
and double-tap. Touch an app or folder that you want to be to its left or 
right. Then flick down until you get to the Drop option you want, and 
double-tap.

Edit mode will close a few seconds later, or you can do the Home gesture or 
press the Home button to exit.

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RE: Wiping Alexa?

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You need to unregister it first or no matter where it is it will still be registered to your account. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Fazil M.Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 2:13 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Wiping Alexa? Hi, Group.I plan to give away Alexa, is it ok just to unplug and give away or am I supposed to do any sort of cleaning prior to donate?Thanks!-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS7PR20MB415965BA9653EE359E277127C9CE9%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. 



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RE: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different than on other Apps

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

Good deal, Mark.  At least now you know what it is.  Yes, I know.  Change when 
it comes is difficult to adapt to.  Some days I wish for the good old days.  
Smile Hey, I remember having a crank phone and party lines.  Now phones change 
nearly every day. At my age, I just want my phone to work!! 

Thanks to friends and these tech lists, we can get answers in a short time, 
usually. Thank God and geeks...
Marilyn 
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Subject: RE: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different 
than on other Apps

Hello Marilyn,

Thank you for re-posting this.

While interesting, this did not pinpoint the source of the enhanced audio in 
face time.

However, I was able to determine that the new audio sound, when in Face Time, 
is a function of the 14 and not of the OS.

iOS 16.2 on the 11, the iPad, and a couple of other phones does not reproduce 
the effect.  The effect has nothing to do with VoiceOver, either.

I was able to contact a friend, who also recently purchased iPhone 14 Pro and 
he confirmed the enhanced sound effect which, is not bad; it just makes the 
person on the other end sound as though they are in the same room as you are.  
I know, I know, I should be pleased, right?  Put it down to me being a man who 
does not like unexpected or unexplained change (big smile).

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marilyn 
and Don Bilderback
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different 
than on other Apps

Hi, would this be what you are talking about?  I found it in a message from 
Tony Sweeney.
> VoiceOver Quiz + Answers in iOS 16: Rita’s iDevice Advice for December 
> 61. What is "Voice isolation mode and how do you enable it when on > FaceTime 
> calls?
>
> Answer: Voice isolation in FaceTime uses Machine Learning to block 
> unwanted background noise in FaceTime video/voice calls. It’s not 
> limited to FaceTime calls only. Apple will allow third-party apps to 
> utilize the tech for seamless audio calls.
> When on a call, go to the Control Center (on newer phones, swipe down 
> from the top-right corner) and hold down on the Mic. There you can 
> turn on voice isolation, which will decrease background noise, such as 
> a dog barking or other environmental sounds. This will work in other 
> video-calling apps, too, and will help even if you're wearing AirPods.
> The Voice Isolation mode for your microphone, separates your voice 
> from any distracting background noise that might be on the call • 
> Launch the FaceTime app and initiate a video call.
> • Open Control Center with a diagonal swipe down from the top-right 
> corner of your screen.
> • Tap the Mic Mode button, top-right.
> • Tap Voice Isolation to enable it.
> • Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to dismiss Control Center and 
> return to the call There are two other Voice Isolation Modes: Standard 
> or Wide Spectrum To disable Voice Isolation and use Standard or Wide 
> Spectrum mode, simply repeat the above steps and choose one of the 
> different Voice Isolation modes for the Mic.



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Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different 
than on other Apps

Hello Everyone,

I have noticed that when making Facetime calls on my 14, via wired Apple 
Earpods, the audio output is different than it is when I am listening to audio 
anywhere else in the OS.  The audio sounds is kind of spacial, or something.  

This is not the case when making Facetime calls on my beloved 8 Plus running 
iOS 15.x.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, is there a way to disable it?  I am 
not a huge fan of spacial audio, at least, not at this point.

All replies greatly appreciated.

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RE: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different than on other Apps

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Hi, would this be what you are talking about?  I found it in a message from 
Tony Sweeney.
> VoiceOver Quiz + Answers in iOS 16: Rita’s iDevice Advice for December
> 61. What is "Voice isolation mode and how do you enable it when on > FaceTime 
> calls?
>
> Answer: Voice isolation in FaceTime uses Machine Learning to block 
> unwanted background noise in FaceTime video/voice calls. It’s not 
> limited to FaceTime calls only. Apple will allow third-party apps to 
> utilize the tech for seamless audio calls.
> When on a call, go to the Control Center (on newer phones, swipe down 
> from the top-right corner) and hold down on the Mic. There you can 
> turn on voice isolation, which will decrease background noise, such as 
> a dog barking or other environmental sounds. This will work in other 
> video-calling apps, too, and will help even if you're wearing AirPods.
> The Voice Isolation mode for your microphone, separates your voice 
> from any distracting background noise that might be on the call
> • Launch the FaceTime app and initiate a video call.
> • Open Control Center with a diagonal swipe down from the top-right 
> corner of your screen.
> • Tap the Mic Mode button, top-right.
> • Tap Voice Isolation to enable it.
> • Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to dismiss Control Center and 
> return to the call
> There are two other Voice Isolation Modes: Standard or Wide Spectrum
> To disable Voice Isolation and use Standard or Wide Spectrum mode, 
> simply repeat the above steps and choose one of the different Voice 
> Isolation modes for the Mic.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different 
than on other Apps

Hello Everyone,

I have noticed that when making Facetime calls on my 14, via wired Apple 
Earpods, the audio output is different than it is when I am listening to audio 
anywhere else in the OS.  The audio sounds is kind of spacial, or something.  

This is not the case when making Facetime calls on my beloved 8 Plus running 
iOS 15.x.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, is there a way to disable it?  I am 
not a huge fan of spacial audio, at least, not at this point.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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How to delete an ap from my IPHONE

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Go to any Home Screen, touch an app, flick up or down to edit Mode, and 
double-tap. Now find the app you want to move. Flick down to the Drag option 
and double-tap. Touch an app or folder that you want to be to its left or 
right. Then flick down until you get to the Drop option you want, and 
double-tap.

Edit mode will close a few seconds later, or you can do the Home gesture or 
press the Home button to exit.

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Tracking steps on iPhone

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In health, select the browse tab, and then the profile button in the very top.

Fill out all the information.

You can opt to share it or not.

I think after you have the profile filled out, and selected what you want for 
notifications, the summary should include activity at the bottom of the screen 
which will include steps.

If you double tap on steps you can select day, week, month, year 

In order to look day by day, you need to double tap the Week button in the 
Steps screen of the Health app.

Once you do this,  you will be able to look at each day and see the total steps 
in that day.

Or, install Pedometer++ and try it out.

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sample the various voice options in iOS 16.1

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In the settings if you flick up with 1 finger on the individual voices, you 
will hear “Play sample.” Double tap when you hear that.

 

1.  Open Settings (find the app and double tap, or ask Siri to open settings).

2.  Swipe right to "Accessibility", and double tap.

3.  Swipe right to "Voice Over", and double tap.

4.  Swipe right to "Speech", and double tap.

5.  Swipe right to "Voice, Samantha" (Samantha is my chosen voice, so the word 
"voice" will be followed by whatever voice you use).

6.  Swipe right to the voice of interest, and double tap.

7.  Swipe up one time, where you will hear "Speak Sample", and double tap.

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Tracking steps on iPhone

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probably best to have it in the front pocket; but I believe it uses distance 
traveled not just motion, so carrying it in a bag shouldn't matter.

In health, select the browse tab, and then the profile button in the very top.

Fill out all the information.

You can opt to share it or not.

I think after you have the profile filled out, and selected what you want for 
notifications, the summary should include activity at the bottom of the screen 
which will include steps.

If you double tap on steps you can select day, week, month, year  

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RE: removing things from bluetooth

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You do a one finger swipe  down on each blue tooth item until you see more info and double tap that. . Swipe to forget device and double tap that. Do this for all items you want to remove.  Sent from Mail for Windows From: Janet BellSent: Sunday, October 16, 2022 1:33 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: removing things from bluetooth please could someone kindly tell me how to remove items from bluetooth as they are no longer needed.  thanks Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/201eb6b6-4cb7-5515-6452-95da20d2b185%40gmail.com. 



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RE: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

Thanks so much for alerting me to this.  On a whim, I checked on my Stream 
radio stations for Westwood.  And it came up with eleven results.  All of these 
seemed relevant, so I accepted all of them and will see if they are all giving 
me access to games.  I found tonight’s Rams and Bills game going on and 
listened to it. This is great! 

 

Marilyn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 3:49 PM
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Subject: Prime time NFL games will be free on TuneIn radio this season

 

>From TuneIn radio:

 


Big news for NFL fans: This year, we’re teaming up with Westwood One to bring 
you Primetime NFL games, free.

 

That means you can stream play-by-play of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday 
NightFootball games all season long.

 



 

 

 

 

Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: Selecting Item from Extensive List

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Big smile.
I'm from Durand, Pepin County.  It is close to Menomonie and Eau Claire.  We 
fled the cold in 1973 when we were thirty.  When it was time to retire, we were 
already here!

Marilyn



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Gallik
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 2:56 AM
To: viPhone 📩 
Subject: Re: Selecting Item from Extensive List

Thank you for this response, I certainly appreciate the humor.

>From what part of Wisconsin did you flee?  After this absolutely horrible 
>spring in the north (Bayfield County) that may not be so much humorous as a 
>darn fine suggestion! 😎

* * * * * * * * * * * *
- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "No pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars,"
- "or sailed to an uncharted land,"
- "or opened a new heaven to the human spirit."
- Helen Keller


> On May 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Marilyn and Don Bilderback 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bill,  do what I did a long time ago.  Move to Arizona from 
> Wisconsin!!!  lol Marilyn -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Bill Gallik
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:11 AM
> To: viPhone 📩 
> Subject: Selecting Item from Extensive List
> 
> Can anyone tell me if there is a less tedious way to select from a long list 
> of items as opposed to going through the list one item at a time?
> 
> For instance, I live in Wisconsin so when I’m required to fill in my home 
> address and the state is in a selection list, I find it tiresome to need to 
> go one state (and in some cases, province) at a time.  Also, many of my 
> friends, people whom I wish to add to my contacts, logging their birthday as 
> appropriate likewise gets quite tiresome - we’re talking in excess of 70 
> items in many cases here.
> 
> There must be a better way! HELP!!! 😊
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable"
> - "but more useful than a life spent doing nothing."
> - George Bernard Shaw
> 
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RE: Selecting Item from Extensive List

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Bill,  do what I did a long time ago.  Move to Arizona from Wisconsin!!!  lol
Marilyn
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:11 AM
To: viPhone 📩 
Subject: Selecting Item from Extensive List

Can anyone tell me if there is a less tedious way to select from a long list of 
items as opposed to going through the list one item at a time?

For instance, I live in Wisconsin so when I’m required to fill in my home 
address and the state is in a selection list, I find it tiresome to need to go 
one state (and in some cases, province) at a time.  Also, many of my friends, 
people whom I wish to add to my contacts, logging their birthday as appropriate 
likewise gets quite tiresome - we’re talking in excess of 70 items in many 
cases here.

There must be a better way! HELP!!! 😊
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- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable"
- "but more useful than a life spent doing nothing."
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Title music crashing on my iPhone 8:

[Don Breda]

qHas anyone experienced this issue?


When listening to music in the title app swiping to the left on the 
screen will cause title to crash.



Looking at the now playing screen for exampel if you swipe left past the 
next and play buttons and swite left to read the artist and song that is 
playing swiping once mmore to the left will cause the app to crash.



Don

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RE: Regarding Paramount plus

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 The pc seems to give the best watch experience.Sent from Mail for Windows From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhoneSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 9:07 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Regarding Paramount plus We recently started having some accessibility issues on the Fire TV. Where we had no trouble with audio description now we are having trouble turning it on. It came only recently after the last update. Hopefully it will get fixed again.Merv On Jan 12, 2022, at 8:20 AM, Don Ball <donbal...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes I use it all the time. It’s hard to easily move to a particular passage in a video but it is accessible I need to learn a bit more about  direct touch and that might help Sent from Mail for Windows From: Diane GiannettiSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 7:53 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Regarding Paramount plus Hi everyone. I have a couple of people who are interested to know whether Paramount plus is accessible or not. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/72043203-AAD7-4154-AA5A-80991BBADE39%40gmail.com.  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/38D72277-0855-4DBF-9773-23AF995662BA%40hxcore.ol. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E5DEF079-B836-482F-9C77-EE1EFE8BC989%40icloud.com. 



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RE: Regarding Paramount plus

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Yes I use it all the time. It’s hard to easily move to a particular passage in a video but it is accessible I need to learn a bit more about  direct touch and that might help Sent from Mail for Windows From: Diane GiannettiSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 7:53 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Regarding Paramount plus Hi everyone. I have a couple of people who are interested to know whether Paramount plus is accessible or not. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/72043203-AAD7-4154-AA5A-80991BBADE39%40gmail.com. 



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Re: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

[Don Breda]

Thanks very much.


Donna I have an iPhone 8 so screen recognition is not an option.


James,


I did try that once  and it didn't work but of course I probably didn't 
tap the exact spot.



I will give it another shot.


Don



On 1/7/2022 6:34 AM, Don Breda wrote:


Hi listers,


I wanted to add a speaker to a group I previously created in the Alexa 
app a long time ago.



I found I was unable to do that.


When going to the devices tab I now get a screen that says introducing 
favorites and I can't find a way to get rid of it or do anying with it 
at all.



This prevents me from working with my devices and speaker groups.


Has anyone found a way around this?


I did try the pass through gesture with no luck and the amazon website 
doesn't have the alexa control interface as it used to.



Any suggestions appreciated.


Don





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Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

[Don Breda]

Hi listers,


I wanted to add a speaker to a group I previously created in the Alexa 
app a long time ago.



I found I was unable to do that.


When going to the devices tab I now get a screen that says introducing 
favorites and I can't find a way to get rid of it or do anying with it 
at all.



This prevents me from working with my devices and speaker groups.


Has anyone found a way around this?


I did try the pass through gesture with no luck and the amazon website 
doesn't have the alexa control interface as it used to.



Any suggestions appreciated.


Don


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RE: is there a way to stop many of the messages from this list coming to my outlook.com account from defaulting to the junk folder?

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

I had this same problem until it just went away.  I didn't do anything but it 
now seems to be operating fine.  Be patient, maybe your computer will 
straighten out all by itself.
Marilyn
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is there a way to stop many of the messages from this list coming 
to my outlook.com account from defaulting to the junk folder?

I'll try that choice next, when they go to Junk, but if Blind Ads comes here, 
either I have to set a new rule or move it, or that is what I do for clarity. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is there a way to stop many of the messages from this list coming 
to my outlook.com account from defaulting to the junk folder?

Right click on a message in the Junk folder.
Hit j for the junk menu.

Here is the options you should find.
Block Sender
Never Block Sender
Never Block Sender's Domain (@example.com) Never Block this Group or Mailing 
List Not Junk  Unavailable Junk E-mail Options...

If you pick Never Block this Group or Mailing List that should work.

Richard
"Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


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Kramlinger
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 12:41 PM
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Subject: is there a way to stop many of the messages from this list coming to 
my outlook.com account from defaulting to the junk folder?

hi,
For the last month, since changing from an exchange mail account to my current 
outlook.com account, 50% of messages from this list are consistently going to 
the junk folder. Every time I go to the junk folder select all and move to the 
inbox. This has not had an affect to resolve this issue. Does anyone have any 
advice on how I may be able to improve the situation?
Thanks in advance for any help. Keith

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The sling tv app accessability:

[Don Breda]

I am considering the purchase of an air TV 2 unit for streaming the over 
the air local channels.



This requires the use of the sling tv app.


I haven't looked at that app in a few years.


Are there accessibility issues with it?


How usable is it really?


In addition to the guide, is the DVR portion accessible?


Thanks in advance.


Don


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Re: looking for any suggestions on strong IPhone cables.

[Don Ball]

you can find good lightning cables at walmart. Their not the cheapest but 
they doo look good.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 11:40 PM
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Subject: looking for any suggestions on strong IPhone cables.

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can please give me any suggestions on where I
can find any I Phone cables that don't break easily?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris

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Re: pop3 to imap

[Don Ball]

if you go in to gmail and search for how to change your mail settings 
you will get an explanation of how to do it but basically you go to gmail and 
choose basic account for your email presentation and then go to settings. 
Select pop and email settings and change pop mail to imap. In the IPhone you 
just give the mail program your email and password for your account. Hope this 
helps.

From: Donald L. Roberts 
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: pop3 to imap

I wish to change one Gmail account from Pop3 to iMap. I have asked on another 
list how to do this in windows, and I am asking here how to modify the email 
settings on my S E 2020.



Thanks.



Don Roberts



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RE: rainbow 2 color reader

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Hello Louise,

Hope all well?

The color identifier that most students that come through the FL Rehab Center 
for the Blind where worked in access technology wind up with is the colorino 
which don’t know if spelled it correctly or not smile.

But, from what understand from students and other coworkers seems to do a great 
and pretty much the best job for identifying colors. 

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: March 13, 2021 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: rainbow 2 color reader

 

Hello:

I dropped my rainbow 2 on the floor and now it now longer works.  Would 
changing the battery help?

Also, I looked on the internet and it looks like it’s no longer available.

What other good color identifier is good out here?  Thanks.

Louise Peyton

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Re: Adding Airpods to Find My

[Don Ball]

I went directly to bluetooth under settings and opened the lid of the 
charging case. after the airpods are detected you can click on them and get 
their settings. I seem to remember that when a device was paired in the 
pased that a notification would pop up anywhere and you could just double 
tap to add the device but I have not seen that with this phone and IOS. 
Progress is progress I gues.


-Original Message- 
From: Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Adding Airpods to Find My

I did this with the old ones, many updates ago, but I cannot find how to do 
it for the new ones in IOS14.4. I cannot find anything in find my that says 
add a new device, or whatever, so  how do I do it? Thanks for any 
information.


Arnold Schmidt


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RE: package tracking apps?

[Don Moore]

You can get messages from the UPS app, but I also use the Parcel app because 
you can be notified where your package is in the delivery track.  The only 
thing it doesn’t track is Amazon logistics.  I think it’s around $3 a year, but 
well worth it.
 
 
 
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VaShaun Jones
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 6:01 PM
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Subject: Re: package tracking apps?
 
I have been using deliveries for years and love it!
Enjoy a life that is beautifully spent,
VaShaun Jones



On Feb 1, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
 Hi guys what package tracking app sends you notifications when your package 
is on it's way? I have the UPS app. does the app send you notifications when 
there's updates to your package?
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RE: can you convert wav files into mp3s

[Don Moore]

Another is Switch Sound Converter.  I’ve successfully used it for years.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: can you convert wav files into mp3s
 
Hi,
By any chance, do you have the link to the gold wave?



On Jan 26, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 
I use GoldWave on a Windows machine, it has a batch converter function or with 
just one file, you can open the .wav file and do a Save As and select MP3 and 
it will convert it.
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site,   www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: can you convert wav files into mp3s
 
No, you cannot just change the file extension. You must use a file converter 
Application  to change the digital format of the file.
There are many of these applications available, and which one you choose 
depends on which OS platform you were using.
I use a Mac, and therefore I use Fission from Rogue Ameba. It is accessible and 
works very well.
- Brad -

On Jan 26, 2021, at 09:43, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:

Someone has shared some music with me with wav extensions and by default they 
open in Groove. I can, by using the context key, get them to play in iTunes but 
they don’t then show up in iTunes Library.
Am I able to just change the file extension on wav files to mp3 or would I lose 
the file?
Alison
 
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Shawnese (LEO)
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Subject: RE: iOS 14.4 coming later today with Apple Watch Unity face support, 
bug fixes, and more
 
It wasn’t mentioned but I’m hoping that all of the direct touch business will 
be no more.
 
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Snyder
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 14.4 coming later today with Apple Watch Unity face support, bug 
fixes, and more
 
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iOS 14.4 coming later today with Apple Watch Unity face support, bug fixes, and 
more

 

 Chance Miller

Apple is releasing iOS 14.4 and iPadOS 14.4 to the general public later today 
after previously beta testing with developers and public beta users. The update 
brings changes to the Camera app, bug fixes for keyboard input lag, and much 
more. It also includes support for the new Apple Watch Unity watch faces.
Apple made the announcement in a  

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We expect the update to be released around 1 pm ET/10 am PT. Apple  

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iOS 14.4 features

Apple says that iOS 14.4 includes support for recognizing smaller QR codes in 
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Alexa App Problem:

[Don Moore]

I tried to open the Alexa app, but when I do, it opens, then immediately
shuts down.  I'm looking to enable the Calm Radio skill, but so far, no
deal.

I deleted the app, but left the document stuff because I wasn't keen on
reinstalling everything.  Any suggestions?

Thanks!



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Accessible alternative to watsapp please:

[Don Breda]

Due to the upcoming terms of service policy changes at watsapp I want to 
ask for recommendations for accessible alternativesto watsapp for an 
audio messaging platform.



Thanks in advance.



Don


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RE: Silencing Watch Clicks

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

You need to go into the sounds and haptics options on the watch and turn down 
the sound or volume level to completely get rid of any clicking sounds on the 
apple watch which works well. So if you want some sounds can adjust the sound 
level if want a small or slight sound or clicking sound when navigating the 
watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: December 17, 2020 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Silencing Watch Clicks

Perhaps a call to Apple Accessibility? 877-204-3930 

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Paula Pinder  wrote:
> 
> The clicks are still there.
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 23:45, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> What happens if you set the watch to silent 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
>> Pinder
>> Sent: Friday, 18 December 2020 12:17 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Silencing Watch Clicks
>> 
>> I wondered the same thing. I haven’t found a way but I hope there is.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
 On 17 Dec 2020, at 23:14, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to silence the clicks when I swipe on my Series 6 watch?
>>> 
>>> Dulce
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RE: Remove me from the group

[Don Moore]

The link at the bottom of ALL messages from the group gives you the link to hit 
to leave.



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Please remove me from the group. I am getting too many emails.

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RE: need help with downloading a file sent by an iPhone

[Don Moore]

Depending on the length of the files and such you probably could.  If your 
computer is connected with your cloud account you could probably get it that 
way.
 
Merry Christmas!
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:41 PM
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Subject: need help with downloading a file sent by an iPhone
 
 have 2 files that my sister sent me, one of the files was sent from her iPhone 
to this email address that I do email with on the computer. With this file 
there doesn't seem to be anyway for me to download the file, it just says in 
the body of the message sent by my iPhone. Would I be able to get this file if 
she sent it to the email on my iPhone? The second file has a download link of 
which I pressed enter on, and it went to the cloud page. It asked me if I 
wanted to save the file so I did ault-s to save it, but I didn't find it in my 
documents or downloads here on the computer. Would I be able to get this file 
if I forwarded to the email address on my phone. Thank you for any help.
 
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Deleting Books From The Kindall App?

[Don Moore]

I finished reading a bunch of books, and now I'm looking to clear them out
of my phone.  I found closing the book, but not removing it.

Thanks!

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Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

[Don Breda]

Subject says it all.


My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even 
though she keeps the firmware up to date.



Is this not possible with the original homepod?


Thanks in advance.


Don



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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Don Moore]

Gas lighting the blind as usual!  Need way more than a pinch of that salt!!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James English
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible
news source by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the
democratic party and has raised money for them in the past. It might
be worth taking it with a large pinch of salt.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of
> the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article
> to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to
> this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s
> a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the
> disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an
> event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump
> administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the
> Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial,
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving
> disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
> "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through
> the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would
> erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants
> and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The
> rule
>
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and
> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such
> proceedings."
>
>
>
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases,
> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability
> benefits—all
>
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
>
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law
> and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire
> administrative
>
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
>
>
>
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The
> new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy
>
> unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more
> difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing
> with
>
> everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
> Verrier
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
>
>
> I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the
> artickle and send it? All I found w

RE: Amazon Kindle books and best way to read

[Don Moore]

iPhone app works fine.  I use the Alex voice and have the rate at 60 words a 
minute and it’s as close as you’ll get to a real reader.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Portillo
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 3:15 PM
To: Jim Portillo
Subject: Amazon Kindle books and best way to read
 
  Greetings,
 
I was gifted an eBook that someone really wants me to read. It’s an Amazon 
Kindle book. I seem to remember JAWS not doing well with such books a while 
back, but I don’t know if it has improved. What about on the iPhone? Is that 
any better?
If anyone has any advice on how to best read this eBook, please share your 
ideas.
Thanks much.
Jim
 
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RE: Reading with the Kindle App

[Don Moore]

Hi rich!
 
Interesting, I didn’t have that problem until today.  What I did was to triple 
click turning voiceover off, then hit triple click again to make it work.  
Continued reading my book.
 
 
 
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Subject: Reading with the Kindle App
 
I recently purchased a Kindle book that I would like to read. I can open the 
book, but I see no text nor do I see a way to read! Help!
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RE: Kindle voices

[Don Moore]

I use the Alex voice because I think it’s got the best quality.  Having the 
speed at around 55 or 60, it’s pretty close to Audible or other voice stuff.
 
 
 
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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Kindle voices
 
If you are using the Kindle App on an iDevice, you can change the VoiceOver 
voice on the language option on the rotor, but yes, it is whatever VoiceOver 
voice you are using.
 
 
 
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
 
Live long and prosper 🖖 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 
 
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When reading a Kindle book, is the only voice available the default voice over 
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Telemedicine Settings?

[Don Moore]

What adjustments do I need to follow for a telemedicine contact with Zoom?
So far my doctor hasn't been able to see me on screen.

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RE: am I missing something?????

[Don Moore]

You’re not!  Just that some folks have different expectations of a list than 
most of us do.  If we had 30 hours in a day or more we probably could look up 
everything we needed to know assuming it was readily available.  For those 
impatient with the questions, that is, after all, why they invented the delete 
key.  Ignore people like that.  Maybe they’ll go away!!
 
 
 
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jo Hart
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: am I missing something?
 
I believe most people are looking for what works for them , here. The ability 
to have ease of use and accessibility as well as product information.  I 
haven’t the time to look every thing up and am personally grateful that there 
are people here that do.  I am also grateful that all of you refrain from 
ridicule because I have no technical savvy whatsoever.  That’s not too say I 
haven’t took time to do my research.  I love this list and it is for the most 
part not judge mental when people do so.  I do however know how to use the 
delete button and a little tolerance is the key.  If we all felt that way this 
list would be non-existent.
Jo
 
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ann  wrote:








 
Questions and opinions are allowed on the list. I might have

trashed a perfectly good iPhone recently if not for some very

simple advice that came from this list. And BTW, I did post on

AppleVis about the same problem, but got no help at all.


 



 
and, sometimes, I want to hear the opinion of other users

concerning what they feel is the best apps, and their experiences

with such apps. And it's easier to do this through email than

having to use something that is forum based.


 



 
I hope it never comes down to a list wide attitude of "You'd

better have exhausted all other sources before you dare to ask a

question and annoy us" on the list. That is not what I signed up

for years ago.
 



 
There are plenty of ways to manage unwanted email. Set your

sorting preferences to threaded, if possible. Set your

subscription to a digest mode if the frequency of mail is too

overwhelming for you. And if it's what people are saying or how

they say it that bothers you, then anyone is free to remove

themselves from any list at any time.
 



 
~Ann
 



 



 





 



 
 
 
 
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On Behalf Of Fred Olver


Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 2:45 pm


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: Re: am I missing something?
 
 
 
 
 
 
No, it is not what I am saying. I have seen

times when individuals have sent four to six messages to

the list when one would have sufficed. I have seen

messages which I pointed out in mine like what recording

app should I get, or what GPS app is the best? There is no

best it is all subjective, and you know what they say

about opinions.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: IOS14 notes on iPad

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Will do.

Thanks.

 

 

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davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 22, 2020 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS14 notes on iPad

 

Ios and ipad os 14 are full of voiceover focus bugs, please do report them al 
lto Apple, DO report them now!

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Don 
Risavy, Jr.
Verzonden: dinsdag 22 september 2020 18:39
Aan: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Onderwerp: IOS14 notes on iPad

 

Hello,

Wondering if anyone is happening to have any issues or problems with the notes 
app on IOS14 that’s being used on an iPad as when go to share the note and 
choose mail things start to jump around especially when trying to enter a email 
address in the to box from a Bluetooth keyboard or even from the onscreen 
keyboard.

This doesn’t happen when using my iPhone XR.

 

 

 

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RE: App Library

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Ok don't think have ever seen or used an edit mode except when editing a 
specific contact, email address etc.
So how do you do that?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: September 22, 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App Library

If you hide all but one page 1, you will just have to do a three-finger swipe 
to the left and you can see your app library. To hide all pages or just some 
pages, do the following:
1. Put your device in edit mode.
2. Double tap on the page selector.
3. Here double tap on the pages you want to hide.
4. Double tap on done.

Jenn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don 
Risavy, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App Library

Wondered if there's a setting in IOS14 that wil allow the app library to always 
show instead of having to swipe up the very last page or apps and swipe up to 
get to it.
So just Thought would ask.
Thanks.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: September 22, 2020 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App Library

Giv it time. The App Library has grown on me in the last few days. I find that 
I can locate recently downloaded apps, Siri suggestions, and other categories 
in there. I can also open apps from my main home screen using Braille Screen 
Input, regardless if they are in the library or not. If you can get passed the 
categories that Apple uses to organize the App Library, it can be a really 
useful tool. I also like how I can delete apps from within the App Library.

Wayne

On 9/20/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I still think using handwriting or SIRI is the quickest wauy to find a 
> given app. I checked out th eapp library and find it too clunky for my taste.
>
>
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> I think the app library is pretty neat. You can find apps easier and 
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IOS14 notes on iPad

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Hello,

Wondering if anyone is happening to have any issues or problems with the
notes app on IOS14 that's being used on an iPad as when go to share the note
and choose mail things start to jump around especially when trying to enter
an email address in the two box from a Bluetooth keyboard or even from the
onscreen keyboard.

This doesn't happen when on my iPhone XR.

So any ideas, suggestions or recommendations on what might be causing this
and or how to resolve it.

Thanks.

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RE: App Library

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Wondered if there's a setting in IOS14 that wil allow the app library to always 
show instead of having to swipe up the very last page or apps and swipe up to 
get to it.
So just Thought would ask.
Thanks.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: September 22, 2020 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App Library

Giv it time. The App Library has grown on me in the last few days. I find that 
I can locate recently downloaded apps, Siri suggestions, and other categories 
in there. I can also open apps from my main home screen using Braille Screen 
Input, regardless if they are in the library or not. If you can get passed the 
categories that Apple uses to organize the App Library, it can be a really 
useful tool. I also like how I can delete apps from within the App Library.

Wayne

On 9/20/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I still think using handwriting or SIRI is the quickest wauy to find a 
> given app. I checked out th eapp library and find it too clunky for my taste.
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> I think the app library is pretty neat. You can find apps easier and 
> quicker I think. I found something in there I didn't want and deleted it.
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IOS14 notes on iPad

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Hello,

Wondering if anyone is happening to have any issues or problems with the
notes app on IOS14 that's being used on an iPad as when go to share the note
and choose mail things start to jump around especially when trying to enter
a email address in the to box from a Bluetooth keyboard or even from the
onscreen keyboard.

This doesn't happen when using my iPhone XR.

 

 

 

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RE: Emergency Preparedness - National Library Service for the Blind and Print Disabled (NLS) | Library of Congress

[Don Moore]

Absolutely correct on ALL scores!
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rena
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Emergency Preparedness - National Library Service for the Blind 
and Print Disabled (NLS) | Library of Congress
 
The hurricanes in the south east occur every year, during the hurricane season 
June/November, so nothing new.
The fires in the west are not new either, as they happen frequently due to 
several factors.
Trump is something good that happens to this country since a long-long time ago.
To sum up, there’s nothing to worry about, at least not about these 3 things.
 
Rena
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Emergency Preparedness - National Library Service for the Blind 
and Print Disabled (NLS) | Library of Congress
 
Did you know that smoke from these west coast fires is now able to be seen from 
/ within UK & European contenant!
 
Not to mention that south east UsA is now getting hurricains
 
They do say bad things come in 3’s,
Fires,
Hurricains 
Donald trump,
I think that is 3! 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 18 September 2020 10:51 am
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Emergency Preparedness - National Library Service for the Blind and 
Print Disabled (NLS) | Library of Congress
 
Possibly a little too late for the Oregon Washington and California fires, but 
here's a resource I was just alerted to that might be helpful for people 
planning in all kinds of emergencies in the future.
It is from the library of Congress website.
 
https://www.loc.gov/nls/resources/general-resources-on-disabilities/emergency-preparedness/
 
 
 
Richard
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RE: The S E 2020?

[Don Moore]

Absolutely!  The guts of the 2020 are essentially like the 11 but with the 2020 
you still have the home button.  For the price it's a great phone and I'm 
pretty happy with mine.  I think you'll also find that the new phone will do 
more.  

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Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 11:09 AM
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Subject: The S E 2020?

Hi my son informed me that Apple has a phone called the S E 2020 which is a
modified 8.  It has a model with 256gig.  I now am using the 6 S with 128
gig.  I am told that the  S E 2020 also has a glass back as the 6 s is
metal.  Does anyone have any comments on this?  Would I be good to upgrade
to the s e 2020?  I did notice that when I installed the Audible.com app
that to purchase books from the app, I would need IOS 13 or higher.
According to my settings, I am up to date with IOS 12plus.  I don't want to
spend $549 unless I am getting a much better phone.  Greatly appreciate any
help here.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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Please report apple music bug before IOS14:

[Don Breda]

Hi Listers,


Someone reported this bug many months ago now and I am sure we both felt 
that apple would have fixed it by now.



Well even after 13.7 its still a bug.


I would love to see this fixed before the remember release date for IOS 14.


The bug,


When in the for you tab on apple music, double tapping on an album or 
playlist  most often takes you out of the for you tab altogether and 
puts you in the browse tab.



This means you don't get to listen to the album or playlist you selected.


You then have to go back to the for you tab and try again.



Most times you will not be successful.


You need to get way way down until you get well in to new releases 
category before the app starts to behave as expected.



Please please I urge as many as can take the time to report this to 
please do so.



Maybe they can squeeze it in as a fix before the gold master comes out.


This bug makes a wonderful app turn in to a very frustrating app to use.


Please write to accessibil...@apple.com or call the accessibility line 
and have them log in to your phone and see the bug in action so they to 
can help to get this escalated.



Don


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New iPads?

[Don Moore]

Have any of you seen if Apple will be issuing new iPads this fall?

Thanks in advance.


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RE: Closing Apps On The SE 2020:

[Don Moore]

Thank you!  Love the phone!  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carla
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Closing Apps On The SE 2020:

It works the same as the iPhone 8.  Double tap the home button and it should 
say app switcher.  Then do a three finger swipe up to clear the ones that are 
there.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Moore
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 6:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Closing Apps On The SE 2020:

Open apps is pretty obvious.  When you're done though and want to close the app 
to reduce the amount of battery drain, how do you do this?

Thanks in advance.

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Closing Apps On The SE 2020:

[Don Moore]

Open apps is pretty obvious.  When you're done though and want to close the
app to reduce the amount of battery drain, how do you do this?

Thanks in advance.

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RE: audible books on mp3 players

[Don Moore]

I haven't had an issue with it either.  I'm glad to know that it's not 
available anymore.  I'll have to make sure that I keep a copy elsewhere in case 
my computer craps out for some reason.



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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: audible books on mp3 players

That must be because you got it before it got spread around through the various 
torrent sites that are known for hiding trojan viruses in their executable 
files.
So, since it is no longer being developed, it should not be recommended.
Too many novices will grab something and end up with a virus in their computer.
Just my opinion.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
my system because of it.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
> together several pieces.
> Could you say more and give a resource?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> lenron brown
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.
>
> On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
>> converting audible books to other formats.
>> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
>> against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
>> prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
>> Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
>> according to a couple articles I've read.
>>
>> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
>> options for audible book conversion.
>> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
>> potential resource.
>> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
>> Audible library.
>> Here is the link.
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.html&data=0
>> 2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227&sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
>> WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3D&reserved=0
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
>> books to
>> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>>
>> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>>> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
>>> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
>>> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>>>
>>> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
>>> quality of the sound.
>>>
>>> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
>>> in the Amazon cloud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he m

RE: audible books on mp3 players

[Don Moore]

There’s a program called Inaudible which is a file conversion program.  Not 
sure how legal it is, but as long as it’s for your own use and not being 
shared, it probably isn’t a problem.
 
 
 
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Dan
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:18 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone
Subject: audible books on mp3 players
 
Hi all,
 
I was thinking of starting to use Audible but it looks like I don't have enough 
space with my little 16gb Iphone six.  Too much other stuff on there.
 
My question is this, is it possible to save the Audible books on an mp3 player 
instead of on my Six? If so how do I do this?  I looked on the Audible site and 
can't find any info about doing this.
 
Thanks.
 
 
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Downloading apps?

[Don Moore]

I've never had this experience before.  I tried to download two apps:

Today In The Word and
Parler

I'm using an iPhone 11 and the current IOS.  When I attempt to download the
apps, I get a message telling me to "double click" to download.  It doesn't
download, but goes back to the previous screen.

I am, of course, using voiceover.

Any suggestions would be helpful.  Thanks in advance.



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RE: Amazon Kindle books

[Don Moore]

For simple reading, I find the iPhone app to be pretty good provided that you 
use one of the quality voice that Apple offers.  Pretty much the same with 
Kindle PC.  On my phone, I'm using the Alex voice and have the speed at 58 
words a minute and it's almost as good as Audible.

Hope this helps.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Andrews
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; portillo@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Amazon Kindle books

What format are they in?  Kindle has never been very good at navigation?

Dave

At 10:34 AM 6/26/2020, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
>Good morning,
>I need some advice on the best and most effective way of reading 
>Amazon Kindle books.  I need to read a particular book that is in 
>Kindle.  I don't know if it's best to try on the computer with JAWS 
>or on the iPhone.  If so, what programs or apps work best?  I've not 
>tried it with JAWS, and the Kindle app reads some of the book, but I 
>am having some issues navigating.
>It's my first day though.
>Any good recommendations are appreciated.
>Jim


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RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

[Don Moore]

The one dog I had that really hated lightning was from The Seeing Eye.  The 
field rep came out and was going to get me a thunder shirt, but the dog gave up 
working before I would have received the shirt.  Florida is really no place 
with a fear of storms.  About a half hour before we'd hear the thunder, the dog 
would cower in his kennel and we knew that something was going to be happening 
soon.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I also thought that was one of the things the dog schools screened dogs for, 
but my husband and I have had three dogs, from Guiding Eyes and Seeing Eye, and 
all of them had a real fear of thunderstorms.  If we were outside somewhere and 
it started to thunder, my husband's first dog would just plant his feet and 
refuse to go any further.  He would turn around and go back home as fast as he 
could, but not go any further the other direction.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was a long time ago oin 1994, then 
in 2005 I got my second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in British 
Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow labs and my second one was a black 
lab/golden retriever mix.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had 3 
dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or 
gunshots.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert

The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd seeing 
eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.

Caitlyn


> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
>
> O' just one more!  I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all 
> the time.  They have been around for almost 15 years.  They work for some 
> dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will 
> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start a 
> flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully 
>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear 
>> thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will 
>> know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. Follow 
>> the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, 
>> reassuring tone.
>> • Even reas

RE: Lightning alert

[Don Moore]

I believe they're called Thunder shirts, and I know of at least one guide dog 
school that recommends them when dogs get upset over lightning and thunder.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lightning alert

No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs and 
they say they help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
> 
> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a 
> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong. 
> I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for dogs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when 
>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>> 
>> Simon,
>> 
>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put a 
>> sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes and it 
>> is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
 On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck,
>>> I don't see the point?
>>> 
>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue
>>> And if you're worried about it striking you when you're out,
>>> Then if it's already struck, it will be way to late to look at your phone 
>>> as neither yu or your phone will be working.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me to 
>>> when lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: wireless charging

[Don Ball]

yes it can. I have a mophi charger and it works even through the case.

From: Vicki W. 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 2:44 AM
To: IPhone 
Subject: wireless charging

Hi,

Can someone tell me which IPhones can be wirelessly charged or maybe it would 
be easier to list the older phones that cannot? Can the new SE2020 use a 
wireless charger?

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: wireless charging

[Don Moore]

The answer to question 2 is no.
 
The answer to question 1 is, if so, the amount is negligible.
 
My experience though with wireless charging is that sometimes the charging 
didn’t take place so I wound up resorting to the wired method.
 
Just my experiences.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: wireless charging
 
Hi.  A couple of curiosity questions about wireless charging.
 
1.   
.  Does using wireless charging use more or less electricity  than plugging in 
a power cord to charge an iPhone?
 
2.   Are there any risks of receiving an electric shock while touching the 
charge pad if your hands are damp?
Thanks.
 
Mike
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 02:44
To: IPhone
Subject: wireless charging
 
Hi,
 
Can someone tell me which IPhones can be wirelessly charged or maybe it would 
be easier to list the older phones that cannot? Can the new SE2020 use a 
wireless charger?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 
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Re: ITunes For Windows Question

[Don Ball]

well I had downloaded the app and that is exactly what they have done in 
reguard to the app. I tryed to install the program this morning and had 
problems which I have now resolved. I will try the program hopefully for a 
better experience.;


-Original Message- 
From: Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes For Windows Question

Unfortunately, I do not have a modern enough computer to investigate 
further. When you told me what it said, I thought Apple had recently divided 
it into itunes store, app store, music and videos, as it now is on the mac 
and IOS. Apparently not yet.


Arnold


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Don Ball  wrote:


I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and 
the app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there 
is one. I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it 
was for music only.;

-Original Message- From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for 
Windows and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and 
to do file transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for 
Windows only allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.


Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in 
IOS. But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how 
does one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.


Arnold Schmidt


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Re: ITunes For Windows Question

[Don Ball]

I will say that I downloaded itunes from the app store for windows 10 and 
the app maybe a little different than the fully installed version if there 
is one. I didn't delve in to the app that much sense I got a message that it 
was for music only.;
-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes For Windows Question

Arnold,

I'm still running Windows 7 but I have the latest version of iTunes for 
Windows and it still allows me to make encrypted backups to my computer and 
to do file transfers. I'm not sure what told your friend that iTunes for 
Windows only allowed music and videos. That hasn't been my experience.


Alan Lemly

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Of Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITunes For Windows Question

I have a friend who recently got an IPhone SE who downloaded ITunes For 
Windows.   He says that it says it is only for music and videos, everything 
else is done in the cloud. I know that ITunes, as one large program, is no 
longer on the mac, having been divided into separate programs as it is in 
IOS. But I thought Itunes For Windows was still the one program. If not, how 
does one back up to their computer, file transfer, etc now? Thanks for any 
information.


Arnold Schmidt


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RE: iOS 13.5 released.

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

When wil it show up on our phone as just checked my iPhone xr and nothing shows 
up there yet for any updates as says am up to date with 13.4.1.
Thanks.


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Subject: iOS 13.5 released.

iOS 13.5 is now available for public download.  

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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Don Moore]

For quite a while, Apple was looking at other countries to manufacture their 
products.  This was being done as I recall in the late Summer early autumn.  



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Subject: RE: Phones manufactored.

Not that it's important, but although google is an American company, none of 
it's phones are manufactured in America. Similarly, Samsung is a South Korean 
company, but has manufacturing plants in Vietnam. HTC is Taiwanese. Huawei is 
Chinese and has most of their manufacturing in china. Nokia phones are now from 
HMD Global, which is a Finnish company but has manufacturing in china, Vietnam 
and so on.

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> Subject: RE: Phones manufactored.
> 
> Googles American,
> Samsungs Korean
> HTC I think is Korean,
> Huwaei  or however it's spelt is Chinese Nokia is now made in Canada I believe
> So go figure
> 
> Yes iPhones are made in china but so is most of the technology these days,
> 
>  HP have a major factory  the same province as the covid19 virus came out of,
> Dell have a factory  in a near by region of china  As do apple as well.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Phones manufactored.
> 
> A difficult person in my life told me that people where she lives are 
> flocking to
> buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because they are made in
> China.
> 
> I ignored what she said, but was so tempted to ask, where are Android phones
> manufactured?
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RE: Looking for a splitter to use usb head phones and charge phone

[Don Moore]

Interestingly, previously I really liked this device.  Several IOS updates ago 
it stopped working and I’ve got mine laying in a draw hoping for an 
improvement.  
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a splitter to use usb head phones and charge phone
 
That will work with USB headphones? 
Good to know.
 
Richard
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.
Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com
 



On Apr 29, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
Dacia,

I'd recommend the Belkin Lightning Audio + Charge Rockstar adapter which can be 
purchased directly from the Apple Store for 
$39.95. I realize this isn't inexpensive and I'm sure other adapters can be 
found for less but I have the Belkin and it works well when I'm using my wired 
earpods and charging my iPhone 8 and also allows access with the volume up and 
down buttons and the remote control button on the earpods when I'm listening to 
books and using the Belking Rockstar. Here is the link to it at Apple:

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Dacia Luck
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:39 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Looking for a splitter to use usb head phones and charge phone

Hi, I am looking for links to A splitter that will allow me to use my 
headphones and charge my iPhone at the same time. I am fine using the USB 
headphones my iPhone comes with, but I want to be able to listen to some thing 
while I charge my phone. Are there any that are specifically approved by Apple?
Dacia

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RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[Don Moore]

It's why they put erasers on pencils?



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Sorry, this was suppose to me a private message, I had a few private message 
from Duane and replied to the wrong oen, how I don't know this is awful.
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m


Duane, Thank you, for the invitation to the school chat tonight. As much as
I would love to talk to you and many of our friends, with having many good
memories of everyone, it's something I can't do now. It's something that is
not best for me to do now. I don't have any bitter feelings for anyone, not
even Charlie, jeff, don and florence. joining the school list isn't best for
me neither. I only know of Florence and Don from the list. Charlie and jeff
I know from upper school and I also know Jeff during the time he was in
lower school. Jeff I knew as a really fine individual, and to me that hasn't
changed. What I know of Charlie was that he was very opiniated and straight
forward which is no fault in a personality, and you've got to appreciate
some amount of straight forwardness to know exactly what someone thinks. I
didn't know Charlie quite as well as I knew jeff, but never thought poorly
of Charlie. This might sound like small beans of sort, and trivial, though
it's happened more than once, that Charlie would have some sort of
sarcastic, somewhat making a joke of messages written to the list. It didn't
just happen with some messages I wrote, it happened with messages  from some
other nyi friends on the list. So I'm not the only person that noticed his
comments and don't like it no better than I do, though some of them are
still on the list. And God Bless those friends that being on the list keeps
them there and communicating with everyone even though, actually Charlie's
never posted that much as long as he's been on the list. I've had my full of
these wisecracking comments to me, and some others, and it means even more
when it happens to you, it's real to you. So the pattern is when he had his
wisecracking, so clever comment to something I wrote, Charlie making his
comment was the big brother, the gang leader of sorts. Then Jeff would come
along with his message saying he agreed with Charlie, and one or 2 times Don
who I don't know in person make some stupid comment. This happened with
Charlie and jeff way to many times for me with charlie's wisecracking
message and Jeff following that he agrees. It truly is fine if neither one
of them think well of me, or even anyone else on the list, but the list
isn't the place for this kind of communication to make it plain that 1 or 2
individuals don't think well of some others on the list. It's just going to
drive school friends away, when they've had their full of it. It's to the
point, I have no desire to visit school, which breaks my heart not to visit
if I was ever back there, but I have no desire due to this kind of
communication on the list which very much breaks my heart more. I'm not on
face book and never had the desire to go on it, though it's great all of you
have the nyi group that's even bigger on face book. Donna and Sandy are 2
school friends that don't exactly think well of Charlie's wisecracking
messages. I also had my full of Florence who I think resents me and doesn't
think well of me, and that's fine if she doesn't think well of me. A number
of times  she would reply to my messages, and these weren't even messages
directed at her where she seemed to misunderstand what I was saying or as if
I said something wrong. Sandy mentioned to me that Florence could be that
way to school friends at times, remembering when she knew her in school
which isn't faulting Florence, it's just her way of communicating and
personality. So between these messages from Charlie, Jeff and florence more
so it's like someone pinching me all of a sudden, I've jud had my full of
it, it's over. It's over, as much as I treasure you, and many other school
friends of ours. and I have my special memories which is good enough for me
now.

Sandy heard from Margaret about Craig having a fall. I hope he's doing
better. I didn't think you would mind, but I gave Sandy your phone number
and email address in case she wanted to write to you or call you to find out
how Craig was doing.Craig is in my prayers, and you being a brotherly friend
to him, you're in my prayers too.

I feel kind of stupid now, but that singer wasn't my brother-in-law. It was
a son

RE: Accessible thermometer

[Don Moore]

I suspect that Bacardi 150 proof rum would do the trick.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer
 
Well, my husband was out today to the store, actually two of them, and there 
were no cleaning supplies to be had. No alcohol. And online, Knogo. I don’t 
know who’s buying all this alcohol.
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 12, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
Hi Mary,
 
If you get yours back you should just wash it with warm water and soap, then 
let it sit for 3 or 4 days and there won’t be any danger COVID-19 is still live 
on it.
Can you really not get pharmaceutical grade alcohol? For a while alcohol based 
hand sanitizer here was scarce and the gel type still seems to be, but our 
local sanitary supply business now had liquid hand sanitizer in little spray 
bottles and 4 L (just over 1 Gallon) refills, I bought one of those for my 
store and that should last for a while.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer
 
Thanks for the info. I’m definitely keeping the information about the Thermo. 
Not going to help me now. I guess I can just hope I don’t get the bloody thing. 
Or if I can actually find rubbing alcohol, I would at least have something to 
disinfect mine when it comes back.
 
Sent from my iPhone




On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 
Well, you learn something every day.
I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got quite a few 
ranging in price from $60ish to over $200.
https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer
 
 
 
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
 
The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead thermometers 
that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned across it. 
Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth thermometers.
Terrie
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer
 
I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. 
But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have to keep 
looking until they find a supplier that still has some.
 
Richard
 
(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C
 
 
On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com"  wrote:
 
Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, that works 
with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?
Terrie 
Terlau
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
 
Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer these days if 
multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you could disinfect it 
each time somebody used it, but the contactless thermometers are definitely a 
better option right now and probably even if there weren’t a COVID-19 virus, 
after all, if you think you have a fever you probably want to avoid giving 
whatever causes it to anybody else. Of course that is not an issue if you are 
only 1 person who uses it.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
 
Good to know.
The Kinsa is an under the tongue thermometer.  At least, the older model I have 
is and I’m pretty sure the Bluetooth one is as well.
I’ll keep this info for reference though.  Sounds excellent.
 
 
 
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
 
There is also the “Thermo” from Nokia Health formerly Withings.
Below are links, first to the Withings website directly, then to the Canadian 
Apple, Amazon and Best Buy, after that the US Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy and 
Walmart. Finally I put the links for the Thermo app on both the Canadian and US 
App Stores. The only problem is that it seems you are not going to be able to 
find one since they show as sold out everywhere or, in the case of Amazon, as 
“currently unavailable”, I guess that is probably a result of COVID-19.
I haven’t checked, but that may very well be the case for the Kinsa thermometer 
as well.
The Thermo, by the way, connects via WiFi, not Bluetooth. we have had ours for 
probably 3 years or a bit longer and I hadn’

Rebooting A Phone With No Home Button?

[Don Moore]

I've got the iPhone 11 because my 8 broke open.  I was looking to reboot my
phone, and while the button on the right does allot of stuff, I couldn't
make it shut down to reboot it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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A question about the text grabber app:

[Don Breda]

Hi listers,


In a few recent updates to the text grabber scanning app they have 
mentioned a feature which could be extremely valuable to blind users.



This is the ability to OCR the screen of any iPhone app who's buttons 
are either not exposed to voiceover or if they are then are not properly 
labeled.



The text grabber release notes say that you need to enable this feature 
in settings within the text grabber app.



I have yet to see this feature in the app or even find the setting.


Has anyone tried this and gotten it to work?


What am I missing?


Thanks very much in advance.


Don


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G5?

[Don Moore]

Has there been any info about when the iPhone might be able to access the G5
Network?

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RE: Amazon Music App Issue:

[Don Moore]

Sure is!



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Subject: Re: Amazon Music App Issue:

Just went into settings, disallowed microphone, and the music came up just 
fine. I never liked Alexa getting in the way when I was swiping up and down my 
options anyway. This is a great fix. On Feb 20, 2020 4:21 PM, Corey Cook 
 wrote:
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> This has been a known problem for quite some time with that app. I have never 
> really been a fan of the Amazon Music app on the phone therefore I have Apple 
> Music on my phone and I use Amazon Music on our Alexa devices 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
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> > 
> > I've got an iPhone 8 and the current iOS.  When I open the amazon Music 
> > app 
> > and try to navigate with voice over, the volume drops way down so I really 
> > can't hear it much at all.  Once the music starts, the music is at full 
> > volume.  Have any of you dealt with this issue?  How did you fix it? 
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Amazon Music App Issue:

[Don Moore]

I've got an iPhone 8 and the current iOS.  When I open the amazon Music app
and try to navigate with voice over, the volume drops way down so I really
can't hear it much at all.  Once the music starts, the music is at full
volume.  Have any of you dealt with this issue?  How did you fix it?

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RE: an attached copy of my trial song with dolby on, this is an mp3 file

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

It sounded wonderful.  Keep on picking and grinning.  Marilyn

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Hi to all.  Please let me know what you all think of my song.  I am going to 
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Obnoxious Siri Suggestions:

[Don Moore]

Several times a day I get these notices suggesting I ask Siri for my current
weather.  If all I did was to use my iPhone for weather, that probably would
be fine.  It's rather an annoyance though and I'd like to stop it from
showing up on my iPhone 8.  I've had the problem since the advent of IOS 13.

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RE: I know someone who wants to join this list, where can they find the join info?

[Don Moore]

Generally speaking, in the footer of each list message is the link to 
“unsubscribe”.  Just substitute the word ‘subscribe’ for the word ‘unsubscribe 
and they can join.
 
 
 
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Hello,
 
Have your friend send a blank email to viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
 
 
Thanks.
 
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RE: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?

[Don Moore]

The Logitech 810.  I bought it in 2014, and it’s served me fine.
 
 
 
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Alan Lemly
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Don,
 
Out of curiosity, what third party keyboard are you using with iOS 13.x without 
issues and what are its Voiceover features?
 
Alan Lemly
 
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Actually, very well.
 
 
 
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I don't believe the below information is correct. What is being reported on the 
FlickType list by those who have upgraded is that the FlickType keyboard 
problems still exist with iOS 13.1.3 but that in iOS 13.2 beta, the FlickType 
keyboard is working properly as in iOS 12.x.  I personally am waiting to 
upgrade from iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released since I depend 
heavily on the FlickType keyboard for my iPhone input.
 
Alan Lemly
 
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Fixed as of the 13.1x series.
 
On 17 Oct 2019, at 11:19, David Goldfield  wrote:
 
I am still using iOS 12 as I heard that third party keyboards were problematic 
under iOS 13? I'm wondering if the situation is the same with 13.1.3. 
Specifically, I'm a user of Flicktype and would like to know if it is working 
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RE: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?

[Don Moore]

Actually, very well.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:00 AM
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Subject: RE: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?
 
I don't believe the below information is correct. What is being reported on the 
FlickType list by those who have upgraded is that the FlickType keyboard 
problems still exist with iOS 13.1.3 but that in iOS 13.2 beta, the FlickType 
keyboard is working properly as in iOS 12.x.  I personally am waiting to 
upgrade from iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released since I depend 
heavily on the FlickType keyboard for my iPhone input.
 
Alan Lemly
 
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Subject: Re: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?
 
Fixed as of the 13.1x series.
 
On 17 Oct 2019, at 11:19, David Goldfield  wrote:
 
I am still using iOS 12 as I heard that third party keyboards were problematic 
under iOS 13? I'm wondering if the situation is the same with 13.1.3. 
Specifically, I'm a user of Flicktype and would like to know if it is working 
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RE: Strange Notification

[Don Moore]

A robo-caller.  DON’T DO IT!!!
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Notification
 
The past couple of days, when I pick up the phone, I am getting a notification 
asking me to verify my phone number. The number given is not the right one. I 
assume this is some sort of scam, so I have been ignoring it. Anybody else have 
this?
 
Susie
 
 
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RE: need an Apple number

[Don Moore]

1-800-myapple) 1-800-6927753.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:16 PM
To: IPhone
Subject: need an Apple number
 
Does anyone have a number for Apple where I can report a possible scam or hack? 
I got three e-mails stating I subscribed to Pandora, which I didn't, and I need 
to double check my account and or report a scam.
 
Thanks.
 
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RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call and you lose all speech

[Don Moore]

It's not only face time which I don't use, but normal phone calls and sometimes 
random shots as well.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

I can only repeat that everybody really should email Apple Accessibility and 
complain about this as not acceptable. Such a bug wouldn't survive 2 days if it 
effected sighted users.
Could you imagine if after almost every phone call the screen would go black 
and people had to try and reboot their phone without visual feedback in order 
to get back anything visual?

I also posted yesterday that every time I have an audio stream playing, in my 
case usually an Audible book, this doesn't seem to happen. I would really like 
others to try this:
1. Start an audio book, a Podcast or music playing
2. Make some calls, don't stop the music or book, just ask SIRI to make the 
call o r go into the phone app and call from your Recents, Favourites or 
Contacts.
3. Hang up the call when you are done and see if whatever you had playing when 
you started the call resumes playing. Then stop playback and check if Voiceover 
works.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

I have 13.1.2, and after a marathon conversation with a shut-in friend, I lost 
VoiceOver, had a time of it before getting it back. 

I've been busy this morning, but hope to have tine to call Apple Accessibiity 
about it and to get help with one other thing I want to do with my phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has any one experienced the bug where you hang up a face time call 
and you loose all speech

That's nice it worked for you. However, I have an iPhone XR and have my wired 
earbuds connected, and have lost speech on phone calls. It doesn't happen all 
of the time, but it does happen. I have even notice it happening when hanging 
up from an Aira call. It happened yesterday to me when I was in an iPhone class 
of all things, but I got speech back fairly quickly and was able to go on with 
the class. This has happened in 13.1 and 13.1.1. I updated to 13.1.2 last night 
so am hoping for different results but wouldn't be surprised to see it happen 
again.

Wayne

On 10/2/19, dani pagador  wrote:
> Hey, Guys.
> Just wanted to update the list. It seems the VO loss after a FaceTime 
> or phone call only happens when an earpiece isn't connected, either 
> wired or via Bluetooth. I tried calling my husband twice, once with 
> the wired earpods and once with the Bluetooth headset I use when I'm 
> on the road, and both times managed to keep VO after hitting "End 
> Call". Guess I'll have to get in to the habit of having headphones on 
> me for the foreseeable future.
>
> More Later,
> Dani
>
> On 10/1/19, sai teja itss  wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>> I Purchased an iphoneX 2 years back but still can't use with indian 
>> sim, in usa i use sprint network but they not yet unlocky my phone so 
>> kindly need your help
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:05 PM dani pagador  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using a 6S. Happens with both phone and FaceTime calls, and I'm 
>>> not connected to any earpiece. Apple Accessibility e-mailed me back 
>>> and sent the usual song-and-dance line about we're looking in to it 
>>> and we don't know when it will be fixed.
>>>
>>> So Upset,
>>> Dani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/1/19, Holly  wrote:
>>> > Here is another possible work around.
>>> >
>>> > If you have voice control on at that point you would just say 
>>> > reboot and swipe right twice and double tap then your phone would 
>>> > just restart and good to go.
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RE: A Rumor About A SE iPhone.

[Don Moore]

I'm just looking for a release date for an iPhone that can access the 5G
network.  Other than that, my iPhone 8 is fine.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of janet gross
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:31 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: A Rumor About A SE iPhone.

Hi Everyone, 
I just came across this, and I thought I would share, as some might be
interested.  
Please remember, I'm just the messenger, so if you don't agree with this,
please don't bite my head off!

Janet 

Apple's First New Low-Cost iPhone Since the iPhone SE Expected to Launch
Early Next Year
Wednesday September 4, 2019 3:25 am PDT by 
Tim Hardwick
Apple plans to launch a new-generation "iPhone SE" in the form of a low-cost
4.7-inch iPhone this coming spring, sources in Asia have claimed. 
Nikkei
 reports that the new model will be Apple's first low-cost smartphone since
the 2016 launch of the popular iPhone SE, which started at $399, and while
the name and price of the new model hasn't been decided, "it is viewed as
the latest generation of the iPhone SE," according to the paper's sources. 
The size of the new model will be similar to the 4.7-inch 
iPhone 8
 that was introduced in 2017, three sources said. The model will share most
of the same components with the flagship iPhones this year, and it will
feature
the lower-cost liquid crystal display that will help Apple achieve the lower
starting price-tag, although the final pricing for the model is not yet
settled,
the people said. 
Rumors of a new low-cost 4.7-inch iPhone modeled on the iPhone 8 first 
appeared in April
 via Economic Daily News. EDN's sources also claimed the device coming in
early 2020 will include an LCD display. In addition, they also claimed it
will
feature a new PCB design to house Apple's A13 processor, a single-lens rear
camera, and 128GB of base storage. 
It's not clear if the rumored 4.7-inch iPhone would inherit the notched
design and Face ID features of Apple's flagship smartphones, but Nikkei's
references
to 2017's iPhone 8 suggest it could retain the bordered screen and Touch
ID-equipped Home button of that device to keep costs down. 
Apple's 
iPhone XS,
XS Max, and XR devices dominate its marketing, but the company continues to
offer the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus (starting at $599) as lower cost
options
alongside the even cheaper 
iPhone 7
 series (starting at $449). 
Apple could end sales of the iPhone 7 when its new flagship models launch
later this month, which would leave a space in its line-up for a new device
that
could boost its share of the mid-tier smartphone market. But apart from
being new and coming in at a lower price, we'll have to wait and see if
comparisons
can be legitimately drawn with the much-loved 4-inch iPhone SE of
yesteryear.

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/09/04/apple-to-launch-low-cost-iphone-early-2
020/?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_9_5_2019)

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RE: apple keynote

[Don Moore]

Funny, I finally got pissed off and shut down my computer while eating dinner.  
When I turned it back on, everything worked well so far.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Munoz
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple keynote

So weird. For the last few emails in this thread, every time I try to tab into 
the body to read them in Outlook  with Jaws, it crashes the program. Anyone 
else experiencing this? I finally had to go in with my iPhone and delete the 
thread. In fact, I am writing this email with my iPhone.

> On Sep 12, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Actually, first consideration for us was an 8, but I figured for a little 
> more, we'd get two to three years more use, and the better battery life is a 
> plus. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Keith Bierman
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: apple keynote
> 
> virtually none of the new hw features have corresponding apps yet (the ultra 
> wideband/indoor location chip for example) ... it will be interesting to see 
> what the next six months will bring. Also many of us aren't on an annual 
> upgrade program ... but obviously everyone needs to make up their own minds, 
> based on their needs and typical use cases ;>
> 
> Keith Bierman
> khb...@gmail.com  
> 303 997 2749
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 12:45 PM Alex Stone   > wrote:
> 
> 
>i completely agree.
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:16, Joney   > wrote:
>
>
> 
> The only reason I could see to update any of my items this year, I 
> have a 10 SX max, and iPad Pro, and the series for watch, would be to have 
> the year of Apple TV+ to see if I like. Otherwise, I don’t think there’s a 
> reason to update anything that I bought from last year
>
>
>Joney
>talk2o...@gmail.com  
>"If God can bring you to it, 
>He will lead you through it."  
> 
>On Sep 12, 2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel   > wrote:
>
>
> 
>If you have a 4th gen Apple Watch there really is no reason to 
> upgrade and even the upgrade from a third generation is probably not that 
> necessary. However, if you have a second generation as my wife and I do then 
> I think the upgrade to the fifth generation is well worthwhile, I rarely even 
> wear my Apple Watch any more because it is so slow and such a pain. One thing 
> I do hope is that on the newer hardware and with Watch OS 6 they were able to 
> fix this constant locking which is probably what drives me crazy the most. 
> Sometimes I simply want to flick to some complication and it takes me 3 or 4 
> tries because every time I wake up the watch and start flicking it 
> immediately locks again.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:28 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>Subject: Re: apple keynote
>
>im not sure I’ve heard all the details, but the Apple Watch 5 
> didn’t sound that exciting to me. I already have the 4. 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> 
>On 11 Sep 2019, at 21:23, Maria Reyes   > wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> 
>I am interested in the 11 pro. What do you guys think about 
> the new Apple Watch Series 5?
>
> 
>
>
> 
>want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me 
> privately and I will happily add you.
>
> 
>maria2...@gmail.com  
>
> 
>
>
> 
>On Sep 11, 2019, at 3:39 PM, Devin Prater 
> mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> 
>You slide up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
> one vibration, then slide back down.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>On Sep 11, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Matthew Bullis 
> mailto:matthewbulli...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> 
>How do you perform the reacha

RE: updating

[Don Moore]

Interestingly, my Verizon sales person told me that she had no plans for 
obtaining any of the X mottles, but would wait and see what the next batch of 
phones that Apple puts out are like.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:58 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: updating


I agree. It would be really better for you to update.

Also, the iPhone 6, won't be getting iOS 13, when it becomes available.

I have an iPhone 8, with an iPhone 6 as a back-up phone, and my iPhone 6, 
runs absolutely fine, and much faster, on the latest iOS.

I don't know, why your friend told you, what they did. But i can only say, 
you were given bad information.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 4:55 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in 
iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes 
as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers 
tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.

Best,
Anna




> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> Hey all
> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've got
> plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said the more
> recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his phone, and he
> proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones. I fear the jump
> from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
> Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the phone
> again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice already. I get
> bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why. I assume it is
> because some notification is coming in or perhaps the newsfeed is being
> refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I hadn't deleted my older
> version some time ago. It worked just fine without all the bumping me back
> to the top of the page. Unfortunately, or unfortunately, the Facebook App 
> is
> so much easier to use with a screen reader than accessing it through their
> main site.
> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve
> it?
>
> Deidre
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RE: Anyone who uses hearing aids, please read

[Don Moore]

I'm picking mine up on Monday.  My audiologist is pretty pro-active, so we'll 
see what she comes up with.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone who uses hearing aids, please read

Richard the Zoom idea is a great one and I'm going to push for trying this. 
I want to make sure we have several Resound users in this meeting with some 
good input.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Before you act, listen.
Before you react, think.
Before you spend, earn.
Before you criticize, wait.
Before you quit, try.

William Arthur Ward - 1921-1994 - Writer


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone who uses hearing aids, please read


If you can find someone who can do a meeting, I'd recommend setting up a 
Zoom meeting, since you can do that for free for a group and the meeting can 
be up to 40 minutes or so I think.
I'm not there yet, but I suspect I will have to get hearing aids before too 
long.


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com


> On Jul 25, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Arlene  wrote:
>
> Steve, here's the subscribing directions for the hearing aid list
> To join, send a blank message to:
> blindhearingaidusers+subscr...@groups.io
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Steve Matzura" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Anyone who uses hearing aids, please read
>
>
>> Where is that list? Have you got a subscribe email address or Web link?
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 7/25/2019 1:12 PM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
>>> Also, I forgot to mention that there is a blind hearing aid users list, 
>>> with
>>> a bunch of really tech savvy people that might help as well.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Before you act, listen.
>>> Before you react, think.
>>> Before you spend, earn.
>>> Before you criticize, wait.
>>> Before you quit, try.
>>>
>>> William Arthur Ward - 1921-1994 - Writer
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Steve Matzura" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:03 AM
>>> Subject: Anyone who uses hearing aids, please read
>>>
>>>
>>> I just got some the day before yesterday from a company called ReSound
>>> (https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.resound.com%2Fen-us%2Fhearing-aids%2Fresound-hearing-aids%2Fquattro&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2cb37faf688545ad3be708d71127f7b9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636996735661173732&sdata=zJVdiIt0YOQZGVckuzc8Co4rSGQDrZm6piMOdHvzVY0%3D&reserved=0).
>>> This model is controllable from an iOS device, but wouldn't ya know it,
>>> turn VoiceOver on, and everything just falls over. The Smart-3D
>>> application goes completely haywire with VoiceOver in focus. It
>>> automatically changes programs (hearing-aid profiles) in a round-robin
>>> fashion without any human interaction and with no way to stop it, and
>>> there are two on-screen buttons which are unlabeled and unresponsive
>>> when double-tapped. Of course I wrote to the manufacturer with details
>>> of the problem, and I got a very nice reply that said in essence that my
>>> message would be forwarded on to the developer for further action. Of
>>> course, those messages always sound like black holes to me, so I thought
>>> I'd take my troubles to the best place of which I could think--this
>>> list. If anyone's familiar with these aids and this software, please
>>> sing out, with my profound thanks in advance.
>>>
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Re: flagged messages

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

Hello,
Is this the way a sighted person would do this or are the instructions only for 
VO users?  Marilyn

From: Greg Wocher 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: flagged messages

Hello, 
Once you are in your inbox on the mail app there is an edit button in the top 
right corner of the screen. If you activate this button you can then select 
each message by double tapping on it. Once you have all the ones you want 
selected, there is a trash button in the bottom left of the screen. Double tap 
this button and all the messages you selected will be sent to the trash. 

Greg Wocher



  On Jul 15, 2019, at 10:01 PM, karl Smith  wrote:

  I recently bit the bullet and put my e-mail on my iPhone. I know I can go 
through my in box and delete individual messages and threads but I have a 
question about marking. I can mark all the messages either as unread or 
flagged. I was hoping that if flagged I could then delete all the flagged 
messages in one quick step. This is apparently not the case. Is there a way to 
do this and if not can anyone give me a reason I might want to mark my messages 
as flagged? Thank you.
   
  Karl
   
   
   
   
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RE: Any Word about New Phones?

[Don Moore]

Wow!  Thanks for that update!  Keep us posted if you would about what progress, 
if any, it makes.  I, and I suspect others were planning waiting until Apple 
comes out with a 5G device.  If it's not worth the change, one could save a 
whole bunch of money!

Again, thanks.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any Word about New Phones?

We have 5G here in Chicago. Only one phone is available to support it.
Coverage is spotty and unreliable.  Right now, it is in a testing
stage. On regular Verizon 4g, download speeds are between 40 and 60
MBPS, which is more than adequate for all current applications. The
only limit to this is in sharing a mobile hot spot with several
friends who are all watching high definition videos at the same time.

Kelly



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On 7/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If you are talking about 5G then I assume we may hear something about that
> in September from Apple. I don't follow Google and Samsung and so on very
> much so don't know. When it comes to iPhones we may hear rumours soon, but
> Apple never talks about hardware before September. Anyways, while 5G may be
> rolled out in a few test markets we won't see wide-spread availability for
> at least another year or two. Who knows how much the current elimination of
> Huawei will delay it if only other companies like Nokia, Ericsson, Qualcomm
> etc. Below is one of many good articles you can find if you Google
> variations of "major providers of 5G infrastructure" or "5G deployment
> around the world":
>
>
>
> Problems and Prospects for 5G Deployment in the United
> States<https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasduesterberg/2019/04/30/problems-and-prospects-for-5g-deployment-in-the-united-states/#555e54f5312e>
>
>
>
> Keep in mind that Apple and Qualcomm, one of the leading makers of wireless
> hardware such as what is used in computers and cell phones don’t have an
> exactly friendly relationship right now and unless Apple ups their game and
> they develop such hardware themselves I could see the iPhone being slow to
> catch on to 5G. But as I said, probably not anything we have to worry about
> this year and probably not even next year.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don
> Moore
> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Any Word about New Phones?
>
>
>
> Are there any new phones being talked about that will cover the faster speed
> of cell service?
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> Thanks in advance.
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Any Word about New Phones?

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Are there any new phones being talked about that will cover the faster speed
of cell service?

Thanks in advance.

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Using Amazon Music On The iPhone 8:

[Don Moore]

I'm not sure how, but one of the rather large albums I have playing through
the app has duplicated, so that each song plays twice before going to the
next one.  Pretty annoying.

Do any of you have a suggestion for remedying this problem?

Thanks in advance.



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Re: How to Set Up and Use Personal Hotspot on iPhone

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

Thanks for such a comprehensive docuument.  When I thought to ask a friend with 
the same phone as my husband’s what hot spot meant...I was in seventh heaven.
It gives me one more way to connect with my Victor Stream in case I need to 
down load something.  It’s like a miracle. Not that I always need it, but so 
great when you are in a pinch.  And more secure than a public hot spot.  Thanks 
again, Marcio.  Marilyn
From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 8:24 PM
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Subject: How to Set Up and Use Personal Hotspot on iPhone

Ever been stuck in a situation where you need to get a computer or tablet 
online with no Wi-Fi nearby? If you've got an iPhone with a 3G or 4G data 
connection, that problem can be easily solved thanks to Personal Hotspot.

Personal Hotspot Explained 

Personal Hotspot is a feature of iOS that lets iPhones running iOS 4.3 and 
higher share their cellular data connection with other nearby devices via 
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or USB. This feature is generically known as tethering. When 
using Personal Hotspot, your iPhone acts like a wireless router for the other 
devices, transmitting and receiving data for them. If you have the available 
data on your cellular plan, it's an excellent alternative to using public WiFi 
hotspots.

Personal Hotspot Requirements 

In order to use Personal Hotspot on an iPhone, you need:

  1.. An iPhone 4 or newer 
  2.. iOS 4.3 or higher 
  3.. A data plan that supports tethering/Personal Hotspot 
  4.. A USB cable, if you want to connect devices that way. 
Adding Personal Hotspot to Your Data Plan 

These days, most major phone companies include Personal Hotspot by default as 
part of their data plans for iPhone. AT&T and Verizon include it on all of 
their plans, while T-Mobile offers it as part of its unlimited data plan. 
Sprint charges for it, with prices depending on how much data you want to use. 
And all of that can change on a dime.
Most regional carriers and prepaid carriers support it as part of their data 
plans, as well. If you're not sure whether you have Personal Hotspot on your 
data plan, check with your phone company.
Note: For important information about Personal Hotspot data use, see Data Use 
with Personal Hotspot, below.
Another way to know if you have it is to check your iPhone. Tap the Settings 
app and look for the Personal Hotspot menu beneath Cellular. If it's there, you 
likely have the feature.

How to Turn on Personal Hotspot 

Once Personal Hotspot is enabled on your data plan, turning it on is really 
simple. Just follow these steps:

  1.. Tap Settings. 
  2.. Tap Personal Hotspot. 
  3.. Move the Personal Hotspot slider to on/green. 
On iOS 6 and earlier, the steps are Settings > Network > Personal Hotspot > 
move the slider to On.
If you don't have Wi-Fi, Bluetooth or both enabled when you turn on Personal 
Hotspot, a pop-up window asks if you want to turn them on or only use USB.

Enabling Instant Hotspot Using Continuity 

With Instant Hotspot, the Personal Hotspot on your iPhone (or cellular iPad) 
can give Internet access to any other Mac, iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch without 
having to enter the password.
First up, you'll need to make sure that the iOS device you want to use as the 
Hotspot is signed into iCloud with the same Apple ID as the Mac or iOS device 
you want to provide internet access to. Each device will also need to have 
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi turned on.
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  1.. On your Mac, use the Wi-Fi status menu  in the menu bar to choose the 
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  2.. On your iPad, iPod touch, or another iPhone, go to Settings > Wi-Fi, then 
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  1.. Connect your Mac to the Hotspot device via the Wi-Fi status menu in the 
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  2.. On a different iPad, iPod touch, or iPhone, go to Settings > Wi-Fi, then 
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  3.. Your third device will now connect to your hotspot without having to 
enter the password. 
Personal Hotspot Connection Established 

Connecting other devices to your Personal Hotspot via Wi-Fi is easy. Tell the 
people who want to connect to turn on Wi-Fi on their devices and look for the 
name of your phone (as shown on the Personal Hotspot screen). They should 
select that network and enter the password shown on the Personal Hotspot screen 
on the iPhone.

How to Know When Devices Are Connected to Your Personal Hotspot 

When other devices are connected to your iPhone's hotspot, you'll see a blue 
bar at the top of your screen and on your lock screen. In iOS 7 and up, the 
blue bar shows a number next to a lock or interlocking loops icon that lets you 
know how many devices are connected to your phone.

Data Use with Personal Hotspot 

One important thing to remember: unlike traditional Wi-Fi, your Personal 
Hotspot uses data from your iPhone data plan, which offers a limited amount of

RE: announce time every 15 minutes??

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Any good ones for apple watch?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: May 19, 2019 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: announce time every 15 minutes??

 

Try: 

 

Voice Over Clock by Takafumi AMANO
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/voice-over-clock/id594106139?mt=8

 

Sent from my iPhone


On 19 May 2019, at 21:11, Andrew J. LaPointe mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> > wrote:

will that give voices or just a chime?

 

From: Richard Turner   

Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 4:09 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: announce time every 15 minutes??

 

 

Chime by Blacktree
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chime/id414830146?mt=8 

richard

 

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On May 19, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Juliette Swiler mailto:juliette.swi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I use an app called Chime.

Juliette

 


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com   on behalf of 
Andrew J. LaPointe mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> >
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: announce time every 15 minutes?? 

 

Hi, I had an app called Timely for a few years.  The App is no longer 
available.  Does anyone have an App that will announce the time every 15 
minutes with various voices available?  I liked Timely as one of the child 
voices sounded just like my granddaughter.  Any suggestions?  Thank you. Andy 
and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
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Cell, 978-578-0185

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RE: Screen Protector Recommendation?

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

You’re welcome and haven’t had one problem or issue with them honoring their 
warrantee for any reasons or issues with the screen protectors.

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Sent: April 27, 2019 9:15 AM
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Wow! Sounds excellent, Thank you!

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RE: Screen Protector Recommendation?

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Check out ZAGG at the following as they have a life time warrantee on all their 
products as far as screen protectors go and they are the tempered glass kinds 
that are the strongest.

They have a no hassle return policy for any reasons that the screen protector 
gets damaged i.e. cracked etc. that they will replace it and all you have to do 
is return the old one to them which they also provide the return label for.

http://www.zagg.com/

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of J.Cyr
Sent: April 27, 2019 5:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen Protector Recommendation?

 

Good morning,

I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good screen protector that will fit 
well (no bubbling) and  still let the phone be responsive?  Also where is the 
best place to buy one (preferably online)?

 

Thanks for any help,

Sincerely,

Joy

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RE: Question about using Blue Tooth in my hearing aids with an iPhone SE.

[Don Moore]

There are several devices.  Amazon has a couple, then, depending on his phone, 
there's the Comm Pilot which is a link between the cell phone and the hearing 
aids.  I've got that device and I'm counting down to July 15, when I can get 
new hearings that will work with my phone without the Comm Pilot.  



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about using Blue Tooth in my hearing aids with an iPhone 
SE.

Hi Janet

What is this piece of equipment that attaches to the TV And  can stream to a 
hearing aid. My son uses  hearing aids in both ears so maybe he already knows 
about it but  can you tell me so that I can forward The information to him. 
Thank you very much for this.

Thank youJuan


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Oh I am glad to hear about that, Janet. That would be nice to get the TV like 
that when I wanted it. Thanks for the warning about the slow down. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 1:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about using Blue Tooth in my hearing aids with an iPhone 
SE.

Hi Carolyn for what it is worth in England there is an app called evoke which 
you can bluetooth your hearing aids with and voiceover seems to work ok 
although a bit slow sometimes.  if you use it out and about you sometimes have 
to wait ages for it to come back after you have been inside a shop or a 
building.  there is also a piece of equipment that you can attach to your 
television that streams the sound straight into your ears.  I know that won't 
bbe of much use to you but just thought I'd let you know about it. 
sorry for boring you.  Janet

-Original Message-
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about using Blue Tooth in my hearing aids with an iPhone SE.

Do any of you know if it is going to be possible to use Blue Tooth with Blue 
Tooth capable hearing aids for my phone calls, and there not be a conflict with 
VoiceOver? When we worked with it some yesterday at the audiologist's, there 
seemed to be conflict. I think I have heard about people using it though. I 
would not be streaming music.

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn

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RE: what aps come standard on a mac?

[Don Moore]

Steve, if Dos cam standard on a mac, I’d be there for sure! 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what aps come standard on a mac?
 
Mail, Safari (Web browser), TextEdit (similar to Windows' Notepad but with more 
features and document types it can process and create), Calendar, Messages, 
Contacts (like on the iPhone), GarageBand, to name some.
 
Obtaining new applications via the App Store is easy and accessible.
 
If you have never used a Macintosh computer before, I highly recommend--no, 
advise--you to get Janet Ingber's books from National Braille Press, such as 
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS.html and 
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-HIGHSIERRA.html
 
On 12/6/2018 2:41 PM, Shirley Healy wrote:
ok guys. will be getting a new mac soon. what kind of aps come as standard on 
it? and how easy is it to download aps from the ap store using vo?
shirley
 
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App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

[Don Breda]

Hi Listers,


I am looking for an app that will report the number of sattlelites in 
view at any particular time or location.



I had one called status tool which was great, giving number of 
sattlelites, their signal strengths etc.



That app was never updated so it won't run on IOS 11.


I have downloaded apps such as gps, gps status, gps tools, etc. and none 
of them do this.



Any suggestions would be helpful.

Maybe I am wasting my time, not sure.


Don


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