Re: how to listen to major league games

[Sandy Finley]

It used to be possible to listen to Major League games via the Amazon Echo’s 
MLB Skill. Last year it never worked and I have no idea if it is back on track 
this year. I would test it out and let you know but I am out of town for a week 
with no access to our Echos.

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> On Apr 2, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  MLB audio is the only way I know of, and for about $20 per year it is a 
> great deal.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
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> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:32 PM, Dean Martineau  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Now that the TuneIn option has been gone for a while, is the MLB app the 
>> only way to pay and listen to the games?  Does anybody know any station, for 
>> any team, that chooses to stream games openly?
>>  
>> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
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New App called Musicsmart

[Sandy Finley]

I recently learned about an app that I think might interest many members of 
this list. It is called Musicsmart.  The app has liner notes from thousands and 
thousands of albums from my mispent youth. It certainly does not have 
everything; we both like a lot of fairly obscure folk music and those albums, 
while listed, do not have as much information as I would like.  But it has a 
lot of interesting information, such as who did covers of various songs, when 
things were released and, most of the time, lyrics. 

The app costs $1.99 and I find it to be quite  accessible. 

Sandy Finley 

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Re: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone

[Sandy Finley]

Simon, your question made me laugh. It is not difficult to tell the difference 
between real birds and my ring tones because I am familiar with the patterns in 
the two ring tones. Besides, if I am outside on our screened in porch and the 
cell phone rings from our bedroom, I will not run in to grab it.  That’s what 
voice mail is for.   

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> On Feb 11, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have tweet for my texts, and have no problem telling the difference in it 
> and any bird singing. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone
> 
> Hi sandy,
> Sorr this question is not going to help you,
> 
> But if you have bird sounds as your tones, How will you know it's your phone 
> if you are outside, Rather than it being birds in the trees?
> 
> I've always wondered how people deal with these tones,  Other than vibrations 
> or haptic feedback, The tones of birds would confuse me.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
> Finley
> Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2021 2:19 pm
> To: IPhone 
> Subject: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone
> 
> I have had the same ring tone and text tone  sounds for a while so decided 
> today to  change them. I selected the tones I  want, two bird songs I once 
> purchased. Now  the one for texting is too soft. If I adjust the  volume so I 
> can hear the text tones, the ringtone is much too loud. This is. The case 
> regardless of whether I have the volume adjusted with or without the volume 
> buttons  on the side of the phone. It seems to happen no matter which text 
> tone I choose.
> 
> Is there a way to make the volume of one  independent from the volume for the 
> other?  
> 
> Sandy Finley
> 
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Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone

[Sandy Finley]

I have had the same ring tone and text tone  sounds for a while so decided 
today to  change them. I selected the tones I  want, two bird songs I once 
purchased. Now  the one for texting is too soft. If I adjust the  volume so I 
can hear the text tones, the ringtone is much too loud. This is. The case 
regardless of whether I have the volume adjusted with or without the volume 
buttons  on the side of the phone. It seems to happen no matter which text tone 
I choose.

Is there a way to make the volume of one  independent from the volume for the 
other?  

Sandy Finley



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Re: Can No Longer get iPhone to speak zero punctuation

[Sandy Finley]

Dave, thank you. It worked like a charm. I will report the bug to Apple.

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> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> This sounds like the Voiceover "activity" bug. Try:
> 1. Go to Settings/Accessibility/Voiceover/Activities
> 2. Double tap on the "Programming" activity
> 3. Double tap on the "verbosity" setting
> 4. Set "punctuation" to none
> 
> I am assuming you are running IOS 14.x. This should fix your problem. This is 
> a known bug but it would help if you report it to Apple. The more folk who 
> do, the higher the priority to fix it will rise. 
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
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> On Feb 1, 2021, at 9:23 AM, therealsandyfin...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
> /For years I have had VoiceOver set to  speak zero punctuation and now I 
> cannot get that setting to work. Yes, I have punctuation selected in /rotor 
> actions and I have it set to “none.” In an attempt to solve this problem, I 
> found the Verbosity settings and set both active Punctuation Group and System 
> Groups to “None.”Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
>  
> Sandy Clearly, this is not sufficient, as /vO is still driving me nuts 
> reading commas, periods  and colons.  
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> I tried to problem solvew t this, ut to no avail.
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Re: Orbit Writer Review

[Sandy Finley]

  Richard, not sure what you are referring to  here in terms of dot 7. The  
only thing I see dot 7 doing is acting as a backspace. 

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> On Aug 22, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> 
> Sandy, do yo find that VoiceOver speaks the characters when you press dot 7?  
> I have not found that to be the case.
> It stays silent until the entire word is deleted.
>  
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>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> therealsandyfin...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 8:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Orbit Writer Review
>  
> Mickey, I have my writer set to echo words most of the time. But in the rotor 
> settings  on my iPhone, I have “characters” right next to “words” so, if I am 
> editing something prior to sending it, I can easily flip back and forth 
> between “words” and “characters” with space plus dots 2 3 and space dots 5 6. 
> Of course, this applies only to the phone. HTH
>  
> Sandy Finley
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
> Quenzer
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 5:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer Review
>  
> Hello Richard:
> What about if Key Echoes is set to anything other than characters?
>  
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> After a couple of days with the Writer following the firmware update on 
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> turn on the writer, it has no trouble reconnecting to whatever devices it had 
> been paired with.
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> 
> I am only going to address the Bluetooth with Apple devices as the USB 
> connection to a computer has a little way to go.
>  
> 
> With keyboard echo set to characters, I am having no trouble at all writing 
> and editing with the Writer.
>  
> 
> I am finding responsiveness of the keyboard to be excellent. At least with 
> iOS 14 public beta 4. all of the braille commands work very well.
>  
> 
> The  Command, Shift, d to send an email, for example.
>  
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> If you press space+dot7,1, then immediately press space+dot7,4 then quickly 
> press the letter d, an email will be sent.
>  
> 
> I sometimes have to do that twice, but I think that is because I was not 
> quite fast enough.
>  
> 
> Navigating with the rotor works as expected.
>  
> 
> this is much better for me than doing the on-screen braille. 
>  
> 
> The Writer is so small and light I am taking it everywhere with me.
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> Just my experience, but I hope others are finding the same.
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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sandy Finley]

Apologies;  I never meant to send that to the list. I swear I did not press 
“send”; it just sent it self.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Susie,
>  
> I've never believed that taking care with updates is an ostrich move. I've 
> been using computers since the IBM PC came out in 1981 and after many update 
> cycles, I've concluded that a large majority of the updates have caused more 
> issues than provided features that I couldn't live without. I'm also waiting 
> until iOS 13.x has a release with fewer bugs for Voiceover users. I use the 
> FlickType third party keyboard for the majority of my iPhone input and I need 
> it to work better with iOS than what I'm hearing how it works with the 
> current iOS 13.1.2. I've also gotten that prompt to install the iOS 13.1.2 
> download and after declining it now for three times, I went into Settings, 
> General, iPhone storage, iOS 13.1.2, and deleted the download. As Dave said, 
> it will no doubt download again but at least I've cleared out that almost 2GB 
> of storage and it shouldn't be prompting me to install anything until it 
> downloads again.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susie Stageberg
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
>  
> Good morning all.
>  
> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
> “later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a 
> while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people 
> having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a 
> good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running 
> along very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest 
> and greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.
>  
> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get 
> a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?
>  
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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sandy Finley]

I, for one,am very happy I upgraded; why I am not having any of the problems 
others describe I cannot tell you. It is dumb luck — no skill  there! I was 
eager to change the touch gesture for the rotor. 

We had talked about talking on the phone; guess I got kind  of distracted.  Are 
you home now?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> 
> you can also, delete the update from storage, which you will find in 
> settings, then general.
>  
> But, it will redownload again at some point. But just keep doing the same 
> thing, until you are happy to update.
>  
> Dave.
>  
>  
> From: Susie Stageberg
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
>  
> Good morning all.
>  
> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
> “later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for a 
> while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about people 
> having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it might be a 
> good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. I am running 
> along very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not need the latest 
> and greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.
>  
> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will get 
> a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the ostrich?
>  
> Susie
>  
>  
>  
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Re: It keeps asking for my passcode

[Sandy Finley]

Suzie, several things here:

1. In iOS 13.1, go to Settings > Display Brightness to check your setting for 
Autolock. If you set it to  Never. your phone will lock only if you push the 
side button  to lock it yourself.I see no reason to have Apple lock it for me.

2. Go to Settings > Touch ID Passcode.   If you have an iPhone 8 or older and 
have not done so, set up Touch ID. Then you can specify the things to use Touch 
ID for and one is Unlock Phone.  If you have a newer phone with Face ID I 
cannot help.

3. I know what an excellent user of Braille  you are. Have you worked at all 
with Braille Screen Input? I love it!! Many of us, including yours truly, have 
absolutely not masterred typing on that. Screen.
 If you want some help with BSI, I’ll call you and we can catch up.

Your Old Friend
If these things do not help, call Apple Accessibility and don’t be dissuaded by 
the message that says to call them only when specifically working with 
VoiceOver. They know that everything is affected by VoiceOver!
  


Second, e?

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> On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:07 AM, Brian K. Lingard  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Susie & List:
> Try calling Apple Accessibility 1 877 204-3930.
> I am not aware of a setting to control this, however if there is one, Apple 
> Accessibility Support should know of it.
> Brian K. Lingard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Susie 
> Stage erg
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: It keeps asking for my passcode
>  
> Evening all.
>  
> When I got my phone, I didn’t set up a passcode at first because I wasn’t 
> sure I could dial the passcode on the phone itself. I’m still not good at 
> this skill at all. When I updated to version 12, all of a sudden it comes up 
> and asks for my passcode at random, and it seems like it’s more often than it 
> was formerly. If I go to take the passcode away, Apple gets all excited and 
> says it’s going to declare my phone a disaster area (smile)
>  
> And before anyone says it, yes, I know the security risks of letting anybody 
> and his brother into my phone. It’s one thing if it comes up and asks for the 
> passcode and I’m at home where I can grab the blue tooth keyboard and key 
> it’s in. It’s another thing if I’m out somewhere and go to use the phone, but 
> it won’t let me in, and I have to try and type on the phone’s keypad, which I 
> still have not mastered.
>  
> Is there some setting where I can control how often I am prompted for the 
> passcode, or am I doomed here?
>  
> Susie
>  
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Re: Checking out the Braille input option

[Sandy Finley]

Danny,

I love Braille Screen Input.  Swiping left and right with three fingers (while 
you have the phone in landscape mode for BSI)  goes to Contracted Braille and 
what Apple calls Six Dot Braile respectively. In addition to the AppleVis guide 
referred to by  Richard, a list of commands can be found by going to :
1. Settings, 
2. Acccessibility, 
3. VoiceOver
4. Commands,
5. Braille Screen Input.
This is if you have updated to iOS 13. 

Sandy

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> On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Sandy Finley  
> wrote:
> 
> To change t from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> No you can do contracted braille.
>> Go to www.applevis.com
>> and look for braille screen input guide.
>> It is very thorough.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Judy Holloway  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, Danny. You can use either contracted or uncontracted Braille. This is 
>>> adjusted in the settings. To delete a character, flick left with one 
>>> finger. To delete a word, flick left with two fingers. Flick right with two 
>>> fingers for a new line. Writing in Braille on the iPhone screen is 
>>> wonderful!!
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Judy
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2019 10:20 AM, "'Yates, Danney' via VIPhone" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Using I Phone XR and have begun to  play around a bit  with the Braille 
>>> input option.  Anyone know any tips and tricks?  I’m able to do a bit of 
>>> writing but cannot figure out how to delete or backspace.
>>> 
>>> Is this only grade 1?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Danney
>>> 
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Re: Sonos one question

[Sandy Finley]

Marie, the answer should be yes. We have two Alexa-enabled Sonos 1 speakers and 
a Sonos Beam. We have other Alexas that are not connected to speakers but not 
in the same part of the house. 

Sandy

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> On Sep 21, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can you continue to use Alexa on the Sonos one if you have no other Alexa 
> devices? I now have Sonos speakers to cover the entire house and they are so 
> much better than the Amazon that I am thinking of selling the Amazon.
> Marie
> .
> The real definition of "never mind" is "you should've understood me the first 
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Re: Small annoyance in braille screen input.

[Sandy Finley]

> I went into commands and assigned the touch gestures of two-finger swipe left 
> and  right to previous and next rotor respectively. This is great, except for 
> one thing. I can use either of those two gestures to get into BSI, but I 
> cannot use either to back out of BSI. I have to use the hated rotator 
> gestures. I tried to unassign  the rotate gestures while in BSI, but they are 
> grayed out. 

Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 21, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> While running IOS13, which I upgraded the other day, I notice that after 
> most words I'm typing, I hear the little sound that you get when perhaps you 
> get when spelling correction. However, I have that turned off, along with 
> text prediction. Does anyone know what this is trying to do? It doesn't seem 
> to fix any text I write though. The biggest issue I've run into is that you 
> can't use the scrub gesture to leave braille screen input. You need to turn 
> the rotor. I found no command I could assign for the scrub gesture. I thought 
> one of them called quick action might do the trick, but that actually cleared 
> what I wrote. Does anyone have any suggesttions, or if there's a setting to 
> be changed?
> Thanks,
> MatthewS
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Re: smart wifi instant pot

[Sandy Finley]

Sharonda, can you walk me through 2 procedures? 

1. If I want to tell my WIFI-enabled IP to pressure cook for 10 minutes, just 
what do I say? (I have enabled the skill and linked my IP; I know it is done 
because the Echo knows the name of my IP.)


2. How do I change the time with the hardware? I know which buttons are for 
which function but could not find that double beep you referred to. 

Thank you.

Sandy Finley

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> On Sep 12, 2019, at 2:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> These are used Bluetooth models.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
> Orozco
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: smart wifi instant pot
> 
> Here's the link, though reading the reviews makes me hesitate:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Smart-Programmable-Discontinued/dp/B00N310CKG/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=smart+bt+instant+pot&qid=1568225165&s=gateway&sr=8-8
> 
> Joe
> 
>> On 9/11/19, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>> Where on Amazon is this 69 dollar Instant Pot?  I have the Bluetooth 
>> model and think it works just wonderfully.  In fact, I have the Smart 
>> Cooker app on a phone that doesn't get updates so it should be safe for a 
>> long time.
>> I'd love to by another one of them.
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> 
>> The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
>> Paulo Coelho - Poet-Writer
>> 
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Robert Wright
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:11 AM
>>  Subject: RE: smart wifi instant pot
>> 
>> 
>>  Since I just received my Smart wifi yesterday I can tell you that 
>> all the
>> 
>> app does is alert you that you have done something with the cooker. No 
>> where
>> 
>> is there as detailed information as they give in the Smart Cooker 
>> app.The Bluetooth is available on Amazon for $69. They do alert you 
>> that it has been
>> 
>> discontinued.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   **
>> 
>>  Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
>> 
>>  the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what 
>> if you
>> 
>> get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Cristobal Munoz
>>  Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:07 PM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: Re: smart wifi instant pot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  The Wi-Fi model only works with the instant pot recipes  app. The 
>> smart cooker app is for the Bluetooth model that is no longer sold. 
>> For what it’s
>> 
>> worth, there was an update to the instant pot app yesterday. I have no 
>> idea
>> 
>> whether accessibility was improved though.
>> 
>> 
>>  On Sep 10, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Robert Wright 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>What do you recommend? I saw the Smart cooker app but it did not 
>> find my
>> 
>> pressure cooker
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
>>Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
>> 
>>the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So 
>> what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?

[Sandy Finley]

Mark and others,


I am using a journaling app called Day One. It syncs the Mac and iPhone and 
stores in iCloud. Also, I had an old journal I was keeping in Word and I was 
able to copy its entries onto the clipboard and add them to the day One journal 
on appropriate days, even ones several years ago. The app offers both free and 
subscription services.  I will be  glad to help if needed. 

Sorry for the delay in response; we were traveling for 3 weeks.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2019, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna and All,
> 
> Okay, I reinstalled the app and all is now working perfectly.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any Good Journaling or Diary Apps, Anyone?
> 
> Here is a link to the personal diary that I use. The app is completely 
> accessible using voiceover. 
> Personal Diary (Journal) App by Eng Tat Lim
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/personal-diary-journal-app/id1052570257
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I downloaded Mac Journal for iPad a few weeks ago but, to be honest, I don't
> really like it.  For one thing, it's kind of wonky when it comes to having
> the data stored in iCloud.  
> 
> When I open the app on my iPhone, sometimes it sees the entries I've made on
> iPad and sometimes, .  Now I do not have Mac Journal for Mac OS and I don't
> plan on spending anymore money on this particular product.
> 
> So, can anyone recommend another VoiceOver accessible diary/journaling app?
> It would be great if the app could store data on iCloud.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Reading credit card

[Sandy Finley]

Wells Fargo will put braille on your credit card and debit card if requested. 
It is not a second card;  it is the reeal deal and it is wonderful!

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> On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Tony  wrote:
> 
> If you are asking about your own cards, some banks will provide a second 
> plain card with all numbers in braille.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Traci Duncan
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Reading credit card
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Which apps are you comfortable using to read a credit/debit card? For 
> example, is Seeing AI safe to use for this task?
> 
> Thank You, 
> Traci 
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Re: Fantastical

[Sandy Finley]

You can also dictate a new appointment through Siri,  as if you were using the 
Apple Calendar App, and the  appointment will be entered into Fantastical. I do 
this all of the time.


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> On May 3, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello Richard,
> 
> Thank you so much for this great description of the app. I really appreciate 
> it. That was very helpful. I think I will definitely try it again. I still 
> have it on my phone.
> 
> Thanks again, it’s much appreciated.
> 
> Terri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 30, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Well, I have used Fantastical since its early days. The developer is very 
>> responsive and took a partly accessible app and made it fully accessible 
>> over a relatively short time. 
>> It takes the information from the native calendar app and presents it in a 
>> much more useful way in my opinion.
>> In the month view, the top have of the screen is like a wall calendar or 
>> think of it like a braille calendar.
>> You have Sunday through Saturday across the screen and on the lower half of 
>> the screen is your appointments for the day you select.
>> When you add a new event, you can write out the information in one line and 
>> it will put the info into the correct fields.
>> For example" "Dr. Jones, 5/15/19, 1PM, 1 hour, at 155 Main street Los 
>> Angeles, CA"
>> Note, I separated each item with a comma"
>> When you then double tapped on the add button, The Appointment would be 
>> titled Dr. Jones.
>> on May fifteenth at 1 PM for one hour, the location would be the address...
>> Or, of course, you could go from field to field entering the start date, 
>> picking the time, and so on; but being able to write it out like one 
>> sentence is great!
>> The custom reoccurrences is better than the native calendar app.
>> There is more, but that to me is worth the $4.99.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello again everyone,
>>> 
>>> I use my calendar App quite a lot. A while back someone mentioned the App 
>>> Fantastical.
>>> 
>>> Well I was wondering, how does this App exactly work?
>>> And how can it be helpful when dealing with the calendar?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Questions

[Sandy Finley]

I think i will go with the Fopydo. I found the link to a tutorial but none for 
purchasing.

 
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> On Apr 5, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, the Danny boy is more like $40.
> The newer version of the Fopydo is more stable since he is using square legs 
> and they lock in place when scanning.
> But, I have not had my hands on the Danny Boy since I'm quite happy with the 
> Fopydo stand.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Lumpkin
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 6:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner Questions
> 
> I think there's a more substantial stand called the Danny Bo . for I think 
> for $25. I'll ask my wife for particulars. She's the one who knows about it. 
> I have the fopido but may get that one too.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
> Finley
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 8:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner Questions
> 
> Richard, I am using James. You are probably right that I do not have the 
> camera positioned correctly. I should probably get a stand, as I occasionally 
> have tremors fromParkinson’s.  I will keep soldiering on until I get it 
> right.   
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandy,
>> 
>> Well, the tones happen when it gets all the edges and if you get a solid 
>> tone for a few seconds, it should auto capture if that is on.
>> But, you need all four edges for that to work.
>> He put auto capture beta on the release because there were people who 
>> couldn't get it to work, which I suspect personally was user error, but he 
>> also marked it as beta because he hopes to improve that mode.
>> 
>> You need the camera about 11 or so inches above the document, to be level, 
>> and hopefully with the flash on, it shouldn't matter what the room lighting 
>> is like.
>> I've always been blessed with an ability to hold a phone level and still so 
>> do not have too much problem getting good scans free hand, but I work with 
>> lots of people who tilt the phone and can't quite get an ideal scan.
>> Which voice are you using?
>> Mine starts reading pretty quickly and I use Amy from Ivona in Voice Dream 
>> Reader, so that is what I get with the Scanner.
>> 
>> I hope that helps a little.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sandy Finley
>> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 5:24 AM
>> To: IPhone 
>> Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Questions
>> 
>> The app is not working as I envision and I wonder what I am doing wrong.
>> 
>> When I hold the phone over a document I get either  no tones or one very 
>> short tone. If I tap “capture image” followed by “play,”  scanned text is 
>> read by the voice I have chosen in voice dream reader. When I open the app, 
>> the screen reads as follows from top to bottom:
>> Image Preview
>> Menu
>> Import Photo
>> Capture Image
>> Edge Detection On
>> Flashlight On
>> Batch Mode Off
>> Auto Capture  Beta On
>> 
>> Double tapping on menu, followed by settings, indicates the following 
>> settings are on: 
>> Always Enhance Images
>> Read text automatically after capture
>> Play tone when edge is detected.
>> 
>> When I noticed the word “beta” after “Auto Capture” I deleted and 
>> reinstalled the app, thinking I did not have an updated copy, but”Beta” is 
>> still there.  
>> 
>> I have a multi-page doc I want to batch scan, but I want to get the 
>> individual scanning down first. 
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, along with the choices to keep or discard a document I see  :View 
>> Text or Image”. I presume I want to view text?
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent From my iPhone
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Questions

[Sandy Finley]

Richard, I am using James. You are probably right that I do not have the camera 
positioned correctly. I should probably get a stand, as I occasionally have 
tremors fromParkinson’s.  I will keep soldiering on until I get it right.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> 
> Well, the tones happen when it gets all the edges and if you get a solid tone 
> for a few seconds, it should auto capture if that is on.
> But, you need all four edges for that to work.
> He put auto capture beta on the release because there were people who 
> couldn't get it to work, which I suspect personally was user error, but he 
> also marked it as beta because he hopes to improve that mode.
> 
> You need the camera about 11 or so inches above the document, to be level, 
> and hopefully with the flash on, it shouldn't matter what the room lighting 
> is like.
> I've always been blessed with an ability to hold a phone level and still so 
> do not have too much problem getting good scans free hand, but I work with 
> lots of people who tilt the phone and can't quite get an ideal scan.
> Which voice are you using?
> Mine starts reading pretty quickly and I use Amy from Ivona in Voice Dream 
> Reader, so that is what I get with the Scanner.
> 
> I hope that helps a little.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
> Finley
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 5:24 AM
> To: IPhone 
> Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Questions
> 
> The app is not working as I envision and I wonder what I am doing wrong.
> 
> When I hold the phone over a document I get either  no tones or one very 
> short tone. If I tap “capture image” followed by “play,”  scanned text is 
> read by the voice I have chosen in voice dream reader. When I open the app, 
> the screen reads as follows from top to bottom:
> Image Preview
> Menu
> Import Photo
> Capture Image
> Edge Detection On
> Flashlight On
> Batch Mode Off
> Auto Capture  Beta On
> 
> Double tapping on menu, followed by settings, indicates the following 
> settings are on: 
> Always Enhance Images
> Read text automatically after capture
> Play tone when edge is detected.
> 
> When I noticed the word “beta” after “Auto Capture” I deleted and reinstalled 
> the app, thinking I did not have an updated copy, but”Beta” is still there.  
> 
> I have a multi-page doc I want to batch scan, but I want to get the 
> individual scanning down first. 
> 
> 
> Finally, along with the choices to keep or discard a document I see  :View 
> Text or Image”. I presume I want to view text?
> 
> Sandy
> 
> 
> Sent From my iPhone
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Voice Dream Scanner Questions

[Sandy Finley]

The app is not working as I envision and I wonder what I am doing wrong.

When I hold the phone over a document I get either  no tones or one very short 
tone. If I tap “capture image” followed by “play,”  scanned text is read by the 
voice I have chosen in voice dream reader. When I open the app, the screen 
reads as follows from top to bottom:
Image Preview 
Menu
Import Photo
Capture Image
Edge Detection On
Flashlight On
Batch Mode Off
Auto Capture  Beta On

Double tapping on menu, followed by settings, indicates the following settings 
are on: 
Always Enhance Images 
Read text automatically after capture 
Play tone when edge is detected.

When I noticed the word “beta” after “Auto Capture” I deleted and reinstalled 
the app, thinking I did not have an updated copy, but”Beta” is still there.  

I have a multi-page doc I want to batch scan, but I want to get the individual 
scanning down first. 


Finally, along with the choices to keep or discard a document I see
 :View Text or Image”. I presume I want to view text?

Sandy


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Re: VoiceDream Folders

[Sandy Finley]

Richard, thanks. i figured that part out; was just hoping they would be on the 
library screen. Thanks for telling me what I did not Dwant to hear—smile!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> No, the filter option is the only way to find your folders.  Then you double 
> tap on by Folder X, where X is the name of the currently selected folder.
> In the early stages, you did not know which folder was currently selected 
> until after you hit "by folder."
> 
> I think his logic is that you have several other ways to filter your library.
> You could put in a feature request asking that you could have all the folders 
> shown as an option.
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
> Finley
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: VoiceDream Folders
> 
> I have VoiceDream configured to sort my library material by title. Then I 
> created folders. When I exit and reenter VoiceDream the folders are 
> unavailable unless I hit the filter button. Is that the only place to find 
> folders?I had hoped they would be on the library screen itself. I have looked 
> for, but not found, a way to reconfigure the app to get this result. Can 
> anyone help?
> 
> Sandy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Bookmarks in VoiceDream

[Sandy Finley]

How does one make bookmarks in VoiceDream?I understand how to search for them 
but not how to make them. Thanks.

Sandy 

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VoiceDream Folders

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I have VoiceDream configured to sort my library material by title. Then I 
created folders. When I exit and reenter VoiceDream the folders are unavailable 
unless I hit the filter button. Is that the only place to find folders?I had 
hoped they would be on the library screen itself. I have looked for, but not 
found, a way to reconfigure the app to get this result. Can anyone help?

Sandy 

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Re: Screen Brightness

[Sandy Finley]

Susie, a word or two more about screen brightness vs. screen curtain on/off.  
The quickest, simplest way to change brightneess is, indeed,  with SIRI. You 
may also want to know that setting brightness to zero saves battery power, 
while having brightness raised to 50% or 75% and turning on your screen curtain 
does not save battery. The screen curtain is a voice over feature whose 
purpose, I think, is to provide privacy for the VO user who will not know if 
someone is looking over her shoulder when using her phone in a public place. 

Sandy



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> On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:07 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
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> You can ask Siri to set screen brightness to 0 percent or 90 percent.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
> Stageberg
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:51 PM
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> Subject: Screen Brightness
>  
> Hi all.
>  
> On my iPhone 7S, I have my screen brightness set to zero, as I don’t look at 
> the screen at all. However, my sighted daughter sometimes would like to use 
> my phone, to take a picture or some such. Of course my screen brightness 
> setting makes her nuts. I have gone into  Settings and changed the brightness 
> to 70 or 80%, but the next time she looks at the phone, she says “the 
> screen’s not working.”
>  
> What am I missing? I realize sighted people are Muggles, but sometimes we 
> need to share the phone with one. LOL
>  
> Susie
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Re: Instant pot smart Wi-Fi six

[Sandy Finley]

Wren, Your IP has 6 rows of buttons.   The first 3 have buttons on the left and 
right most columns with the middle two columns being empty. Rows 4, 5 and 6 
each have 4 buttons. If you go to row 4, (the first row from the top with 4 
buttons) the WIFI button is the second from the left. This is a double function 
button. While in some menus  it means Pressure Level. When connecting your IP 
to WIFI, press and hold for 3 seconds. You will hear a beep but I forget if 
that beep occurs while still holding the button or when you let go. 

I am slowly learning to use my IP and will be glad to help if I can.

Sandy Finley
  Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 12:21 AM, 'Wren LANGLEY' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Sent from my iPhone hi all,
> Thank you for the help
> Does anyone have the instant pot smart Wi-Fi six? If you do can you please 
> tell me where the Wi-Fi button is so that I can finish connecting my phone in 
> my instant pot?
> 
> Thank you so much.
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley PS it’s the one that you have to turn on hold for three seconds 
> so that the pot and phone can see one another or something like that.
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Re: Problem with braille input after update.

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I recently learned about a BSI feature which, for some reason,  alluded me. If 
you are using table  top mode, swiping three fingers on your right hand down 
will either lock or unlock orientation. If I Unlock orientation, recalibrate 
the dots and then swipe three fingers down tolock orientation, the calibration 
remains longer than when I do not use this feature. hth  Sandy

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> Hello all,
> Problem solved, however I think it maybe a bug. Found that I left zoom on as 
> I was demonstrating it to someone yesterday.
> Thanks all.
> Regards Mark.
> 
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>> On 14 Feb 2019, at 2:46 am, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
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>> I haven't had any problems with it recently, but when I do, oftentimes 
>> switching it between contracted and six-dot, then back to contracted, will 
>> straighten it out. I don't know why this works. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
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>> On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Mark Muscat  wrote:
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>> Hello
>> Is anyone experiencing a problem with the braille screen input? I’ve just 
>> completed the recent update. Finding the brow input is not working as it 
>> should be. I even tried to calibrate the dots again. Just checking to see if 
>> anyone else is experiencing the same problem. Or if it is a known problem, 
>> is there anything I should do to rectify it?
>> Thanks and regards
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Ring smart Doorbell

[Sandy Finley]

We are thinking of buying one of those doorbells that work with the Amazon 
Echo. Does anyone have thoughts about which have worked best or not worked with 
VoiceOver and the Echo? Thanks.

Sandy.  

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Re: using focus 40 braille display

[Sandy Finley]

Janet,

Dots 46 chord = Move to Notification Center 

Dots 3 4 5 Chord and dots 1 2 6 chord = volume up/down; I forget which is which

If you go to:  

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202132

Sandy

You will find a list of common Braille commands with iOS. 

HTH


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> please can someone tell me how to get to the notifications using focus 40 and 
> also how you raise and lower the volume on the iPhone using same display.  
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Re: One more Favorites question.

[Sandy Finley]

Carolyn, there is an edit button at the top of your Favorites list. Double tap 
that and then reorder your list in the usual Apple way. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> Thanks for that information. I'll keep and reread, then follow instructions 
> to get them that way. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Robert Wright
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: One more Favorites question.
> 
> Yes, dt edit
> 
> Dth the reorder button and slowly move it up. It should announce each item as 
> you move above it.
> 
> When you let it go its in place.
> 
> Do this for each item until you get the order you wish
> 
> Dt done.
> 
> 
> 
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
> ***
> 
> 
> 
> From: Carolyn Arnold  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 10:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: One more Favorites question.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a way to alphabetize my contacts that are in
> 
> Favorites? Thanks for help. 
> 
> 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
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Re: An Aria Update

[Sandy Finley]

Can we please calm down here? Mark is not a dictator — we simply disagree.  
Please do not  take your marbles and go home  just because you have a different 
perspective. Before you call Mark a dictator or anything worse, remember how 
well this list has been run for many years. 

Just because the bar for human decency has been dramatically lowered by the 
current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is no reason for us to follow 
suit. — in fact, we owe it to ourselves not to. 

Sandy Finleyjust because you disagree, 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> Marie N,
> I find your post offensive. I also disagree with Mark. Aira is a service I 
> choose not to subscribe to personally, but see nothing wrong with its 
> promotion on this list since this list is supposed to be about educating 
> visually impaired iPhone users about things that are helpful using their 
> phone.
> No one complains when the subscription service for Apple Music is discussed. 
> No one complains when TuneIn Pro Premium subscriptions are discussed.
> I think Jonathan deserves an apology for being singled out for this exclusion.
> If this policy is not changed, I too will be unsubscribing.
> Richard
> 
> 
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> any." -- Alice Walker
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> On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Marie N.  wrote:
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>> This post is offensive and totally uncalled for. The message was, in my 
>> opinion,  a promotion of Aira.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Reg Sullivan
>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: An Aria Update
>> 
>> One of my favorite lines is "you chose to cut off the hand that feeds you"
>> Mark, I am so surprised that as one entrusted in a leadership position of a 
>> list that educates it's followers on Iphone related apps that make life 
>> easier for those of us who choose to subscribe to them that you would feel 
>> threatened by Jonathan's good intentions.Jonathan made his career 
>> educating all of us on new ideas and concepts through his pod casts and 
>> charged pennies for it.
>> Promoting Aira  in this way will lead to broader acceptance of the product 
>> among the blindness community and greater value for all of us in the long 
>> run.
>> 
>> It's time for you to resign your post as moderator of this list and time for 
>> those of us wanting open communication without barriers to move over to the 
>> BlindPhone list!
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you to everyone who contributed to my tech development with your posts 
>> to this list.
>> 
>> RegardsReg
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Tom Rash
>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 8:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: An Aira Update
>> 
>> Jonathan:
>> I've been on this list as long as you have.  I appreciate and have learned 
>> much from you and other contributors to the list.
>> Computers and iPhones are great.  They even come wih delete keys.
>> I'll be joining the blind phones list.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: An Aira Update
>> 
>> Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing after 
>> around 9 years on the group, but I want to express my disappointment about 
>> this change.
>> During Cara's excellent and even-handed leadership of this group, we had 
>> many occasions where app developers would engage with us about their apps, 
>> especially when those apps were blindness specific.
>> Since this particular app was one that has come up here on multiple 
>> occasions, with some mentioning it as one of their top apps of 2018, it 
>> seemed appropriate, on-topic, and of value to interested members to let them 
>> know about recent developments, especially a free trial. This has been 
>> welcomed on other groups.
>> It's a difficult and false distinction to separate the app from the service, 
>> when the app is the vehicle for that service.
>> Further, the service itself would in the past have been considered on-topic, 
>> because one uses it on an iPhone and it is blindness specific.
>> Anyway, I've learned a great deal over the last 9 years, so thanks to 
>> everyone for that.
>> Should you wish to be on a group where app developers and users can freely 
>> interact, you're welcome to join my BlindPhones list, which covers both iOS 
>> and Android. If an app developer wishes to take time to engage, they are 
>> welcomed with open arms.
>> blindphones+subscr...@groups.io.
>> And of course as has been already pointed out in this thread, there's an 
>> Aira group too.
>> Thanks all.
>> 
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training 
>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection

Re: An Aira Update

[Sandy Finley]

Mark, while I appreciate your concerns here, I think this list should cover 
anything related to the iPhone that is of specific interest and potential 
benefitto people  who are blind. If we want to limit topics, then let’s 
eliminate articles like “The End of Apple” or other generic topics not 
blindness related. We can find those anywhere. If there is a new app that could 
benefit  a portion of our community, where else but this list will we find out 
about it?  There are tons of blindness-related listservs, podcasts and blogs, 
but who has the time? 


Sandy Finley



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> On Jan 26, 2019, at 9:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I see the point, but what about when they come on and advertising sales, like 
> the developer of blind square did not terribly long ago. Or KNFB Reader in 
> the past. I just think it’s hair splitting. Especially given the amount of 
> other stuff that could be deemed off-topic or irrelevant by a strict 
> moderator. I think this post got singled out, and even though I don’t care 
> about this product, I know a bunch of folks do. So whatever.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> But there's a difference between a person talking about an app they like and 
>> a corporate executive touting his company's product.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> I think you were splitting hairs here. Plenty of people get on here and talk 
>> about apps that are accessible and how that benefits them. For instance, the 
>> Seeing AI app and all the uses to which they put it. So what is your problem 
>> with this? I don’t use this service, and I don’t see myself doing cell 
>> anytime soon, due to my own personal circumstances. So I have no vested 
>> interest here. But given some of the questionable articles that even you 
>> have posted, notably that nonsense from Forbes magazine, which is a 
>> miserable record when it comes to anything Apple related, I think you should 
>> either start looking at your own post a bit more or lighten up on this one. 
>> Just my two cents.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2019, at 5:31 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see your point, Andy.  Be that as it may, any new service being offered 
>>> to our community, is always appreciated.
>>> 
>>> However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on 
>>> this list.  Any questions regarding the service, itself, to be taken 
>>> off-list, immediately.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for observing this policy.
>>> 
>>> Moderator Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Andy Baracco
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>>> 
>>> I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "James English" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: An Aira Update
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm curious. What things can the service not be used for?>>> id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2">
>>>> 
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>>>> target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> >>> height="1">
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>>>> Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer
>>>&

Re: Apple News app

[Sandy Finley]

Richard and Rhonda, 

I have noticed the same issue, as has a friend  who is not on this list. I know 
I can tap the middle of the screen, but  it is annoying, especially when I am 
reading in the middle of the night and, havingh curled up with my pillow after 
double-tapping and flicking down in an article I want to read, I am all warm 
and comfortable and need to reachout and deal with the phone! :) I know this is 
a first world problem,but it is annoying!

 



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> On Jan 25, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Rhonda Hornbacher  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have experienced issues with the Apple News app. I have spoken with Apple 
> Accessability and they are aware of the problems and state they are working 
> on fixing them.
> 
> I would encourage you to contact them as well.  Perhaps the more it is 
> reported the quicker it will be fixed.
> 
> R
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I was reading with VoiceOver with the two finger flick down.
>> It makes sense that with a braille display you would not experience that 
>> because you are essentially flicking right with one finger each time you pan 
>> the display.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I’m still running IOS 12.1.2. Using an iPhone 8 paired with my BrailleSense 
>>> U2, I just read a rather lengthy news article in Apple News and didn’t 
>>> notice any automatic screen refreshing. The reading experience was very 
>>> smooth. I hope that doesn’t change with 12.1.3, as automatic refreshing is 
>>> annoying, to say the least.
>>> Tom 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Has anyone else noticed an issue with Apple News lately since iOS 12.1 
 when reading an article that the screen refreshes kicking VoiceOver back 
 to the top so you completely lose your place in the article?
 I've stopped using the app because of this.
 If others are experiencing this, I'll write Apple. A reinstall did not 
 solve the issue.
 Richard
 
 
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Re: Listview in Calendar App

[Sandy Finley]

Sherrie, thanks; it really does work!


Sandy

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> On Jan 23, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:
> 
> I found this in my files. It works.
> Submitted by Rob on 11 April, 2014 - 06:17
> Hi,
> One possible work around:
> 1. bring up the list of months.
> 2. Select current month (or another month where you know you have an event).
> 3. You should then have a month screen with all the days showing. Before 
> selecting a day with an
> event on it, if the list button is shown as selected,
> unselect it with a double tap.
> 4. Having done that, Swipe through until you find a day where an event should 
> show. For 
> example, it might say Friday 11th April, 1 event, then double tap
> on that day.
> I think that I then needed to double tap the List choice at the top.
> 5. All events that you have on the calendar should then show up on the next 
> screen.
> If the list button is selected on the month screen, tapping on an event 
> doesn't work.
> Hope this helps.
> navigation region
> 
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:00 AM, Sandy Finley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My calendar app used to show appointments in a wonderful list. Now it  lists 
>> each date, indicating how many appointments I have on that  day. And  yes, 
>> the List option reads as Selected.   I have unselected and reselected the 
>> List option, but to no avail.
>> 
>> How do I get my nice listview back? 
>> 
>> Sandyback?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to Get Rid of Prompt When Deleting Text & What Does Hide Alert Mean

[Sandy Finley]

Mike, I have the same experience you describe. However, if, after Idelete the 
thread I get another message from that person, the entire thread comes back, 
not just the new message. There are three or four friends and family   Members 
with whom I tex frequently and those stringss can get ridiculously long.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 23, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> After you delete a text message, do you get the prompt asking if you would 
> like to delete this conversation, or something along that line?  I'm running 
> an S E iPhone with 12.1.2 and whenever I delete a text I get this prompt so I 
> swipe right 1 time, double tap and that thread is gone not to return.
> Take care.  Go Rams!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of 
> your action.
> - Original Message -
> From: Sandy Finley
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 7:04 AM
> Subject: Re: How to Get Rid of Prompt When Deleting Text & What Does Hide 
> Alert Mean
> 
> Sherry, Hide Alert is supposed to  get rid of the  sound  alerting you that a 
> new message has come in.  Perhaps when you changed the setting and still got 
> the sound, you had the person re-text you too quickly for the change to take 
> effect? I am speculating here.  
> 
> I have a different objection to the current texting configuration. If I 
> delete a text
> Message and that person texts me again later,  I get the entire conversation 
> back. I really dislike this. If I have  deleted it, I’ve done so for a reason 
> and don’t want the entire message string to come back at me. Does anyone know 
> how to change this?
> 
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 22, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> > 
> > From what I understand, hide alerts mutes the conversations or
> > notification of text or iMessages. I have used this in a group text
> > situation where I don't want to get alerts for new messages in the
> > group. The messages will still come in but you are not alerted to
> > them, and if you look at the conversation history, you can access any
> > messages that you missed.
> > 
> > Hope that helps,
> > Wayne
> > 
> >> On 1/22/19, sherrywells1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >> 
> >> I finally updated my IPhone 5s to the newest version of IOS.  Doing this
> >> reinforced why I put it off as I had to go in & change a number of
> >> settings.
> >> Used to be when I wanted to delete text messages, I would tap the one I
> >> wanted to delete, swipe up for Delete then double tap to delete.  Now I get
> >> a message asking me if I am sure I want to delete the text.  How can I get
> >> rid of this prompt?
> >> 
> >> Secondly, now when I tap a text then swipe, I hear hide alert.  I was
> >> hoping
> >> this would get rid of the are you sure prompt but it does not.  I thought
> >> that maybe if I hide the alert, it would mean that I don't get notified if
> >> I
> >> get another text from that person.  After double tapping to hide alert,
> >> when
> >> I touch that person, I hear muted.  Yet I had someone text me, double
> >> tapped
> >> on hide alert & had them text me again & I did get the ding saying I had
> >> received a text.  So does anyone know what hide alert does?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Sherry Wells
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Listview in Calendar App

[Sandy Finley]

My calendar app used to show appointments in a wonderful list. Now it  lists 
each date, indicating how many appointments I have on that  day. And  yes, the 
List option reads as Selected.   I have unselected and reselected the List 
option, but to no avail.

How do I get my nice listview back? 

Sandyback?

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Re: How to Get Rid of Prompt When Deleting Text & What Does Hide Alert Mean

[Sandy Finley]

Sherry, Hide Alert is supposed to  get rid of the  sound  alerting you that a 
new message has come in.  Perhaps when you changed the setting and still got 
the sound, you had the person re-text you too quickly for the change to take 
effect? I am speculating here.  

I have a different objection to the current texting configuration. If I delete 
a text
Message and that person texts me again later,  I get the entire conversation 
back. I really dislike this. If I have  deleted it, I’ve done so for a reason 
and don’t want the entire message string to come back at me. Does anyone know 
how to change this?

Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> From what I understand, hide alerts mutes the conversations or
> notification of text or iMessages. I have used this in a group text
> situation where I don't want to get alerts for new messages in the
> group. The messages will still come in but you are not alerted to
> them, and if you look at the conversation history, you can access any
> messages that you missed.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 1/22/19, sherrywells1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I finally updated my IPhone 5s to the newest version of IOS.  Doing this
>> reinforced why I put it off as I had to go in & change a number of
>> settings.
>> Used to be when I wanted to delete text messages, I would tap the one I
>> wanted to delete, swipe up for Delete then double tap to delete.  Now I get
>> a message asking me if I am sure I want to delete the text.  How can I get
>> rid of this prompt?
>> 
>> Secondly, now when I tap a text then swipe, I hear hide alert.  I was
>> hoping
>> this would get rid of the are you sure prompt but it does not.  I thought
>> that maybe if I hide the alert, it would mean that I don't get notified if
>> I
>> get another text from that person.  After double tapping to hide alert,
>> when
>> I touch that person, I hear muted.  Yet I had someone text me, double
>> tapped
>> on hide alert & had them text me again & I did get the ding saying I had
>> received a text.  So does anyone know what hide alert does?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sherry Wells
>> 
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Re: Instant Pot makes Google Assistant your new sous chef

[Sandy Finley]

I certainly hope it will come to the Echo, as we already have a houseful. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
>   I wonder if the same thing will be coming to the Echo?
> 
> -Original Message- From: lenron brown
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 10:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Instant Pot makes Google Assistant your new sous chef
> 
> Ok this is pretty sweet.
> 
>> On 1/7/19, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps something of interest for owners of the wifi model or those who may
>> be considering one. The ideal thing would be for the Instant Pot folks to
>> simply address the accessibility issues in the app, but anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Instant Pot makes Google Assistant your new sous chef
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It was only a matter of time, really. Instant Brands has announced
>> 
>> that its Instant Pot
>> 
>> Smart WiFi pressure cooker now supports Google Assistant, making it
>> possible to start cooking or check on the status without pulling out your
>> phone or peeking at the tiny display. It's the height of culinary luxury,
>> but it could be incredibly helpful if you'd rather not drop what you're
>> doing to start your rice or check on your brisket.
>> 
>> https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/07/instant-pot-google-assistant-support/
>> 
>> The cooker officially sells for $150 with a 6-quart capacity. You probably
>> won't go out of your way to get an Instant Pot for Google Assistant support,
>> but it could make the ultra-trendy device feel more at home with the rest of
>> your connected kitchen devices
>> 
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Re: Contacting a developer, regarding an App

[Sandy Finley]

Anna and others who know,


What is the best link on the AppleVis site to send to a developer? Thanks.

Sandy Finley

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> On Jan 7, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terri,
> 
> I would start by saying how much you like the app and why. Then explain that 
> you are using the app with VoiceOver and have noticed some problems. Be as 
> specific as you can about what you are trying to do and the problems you run 
> into. Tell them that Applevis has a section for developers, and provide a 
> link. You might also send them a link to accessibility information on Apple's 
> site. Offer to beta-test the app as they try to improve its accessibility if 
> you would be willing to beta-test.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2019, at 1:05 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> First of all, thank you to those of you who have helped me, regarding my 
>> questions about accessible recipe Apps. The thoughts, and help are very 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> I mentioned in 1 of my messages, that I found this recipe App called Yumly. 
>> I really like the App. I can see a lot of good things, regarding it.
>> However, many, if not all of the buttons aren’t labeled. Getting signed up 
>> was fairly easy. But then from there it’s been a bit of a challenge to 
>> figure out. Although, I have seen much less accessible Apps.
>> 
>> I was considering contacting the developers of this App. I haven’t ever done 
>> this sort of thing. It’s just not usually my style. But this is how much I 
>> like the App.
>> 
>> So if I end up doing this, how do I express to them what might be helpful?
>> And how can I politely get my thoughts across? I am not 1 who likes to be 
>> harsh, or rude, or anything like that. But I would like to express myself 
>> well, as I really hope maybe at some point, changes might be made.
>> 
>> So if any of you who have gone about doing this, could share your thoughts 
>> and experiences, that would just be great.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Terri
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Re: sonos subwoofer and airplay?

[Sandy Finley]

For whatever it’s worth, we did not get a sub, just a beam and two speakers. I 
think the sound is just fine—depends on how much base and fullness you want. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> The Sub does not require stand-alone Airplay 2 support if it is paired to a 
> set of Play 5 or Sonos One speakers. With Sonos it's all a bit like magic or, 
> as Steve Jobbs used to say, it just works.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
> Radix
> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 8:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: sonos subwoofer and airplay?
> 
> Hi, Ok this will take saving up for but a worthy goal i think 2x sonos 
> play:5 plus a sonos sub. But will the sub work with airplay2? It does 
> not support airplay2 natively bur i read on the sonos site thatIF one of 
> your speakers supports airplay 2 then the rest of the system will work 
> as well. But not sure if this holds true for a subwoofer also...
> 
> Thanks in advance for any info,
> 
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: airplay2 speakers advice (maybe sonos)?

[Sandy Finley]

Brett, we have 2 Sonos Play1 speakers and a Beam, which is a  sound bar in our 
living room and are delighted with them. You can control them through the app 
or, in the case of Play 1 and the Beam, Alexa. 

They are completely accessible and it was not the sighted member of this couple 
who hooked them up. 

We also have our TV hooked into the speakers and it creates surround sound for 
a movie. There arre touch pads on all three pieces of equipment, but I ignore 
them — just be careful when you are dusting!  

Sandy Finley:)

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> On Jan 6, 2019, at 1:21 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am looking for a stereo pair of wireless speakers for music listening in 
> the living room. With airplay 2 stereo wireless is a possiblity although I 
> dont think airfoil supports it yet so not sure if I can use the stereo pair 
> within windows or mac (seeing as I really dont like itunes).
> 
> But then I thought about sonos. I read that you can make a stereo pair of 
> sonos speakers if you have 2 sonosses in one room from within their app. But 
> is that still accessible and can it be used on windows or mac also as well as 
> on ios?
> 
> Also I read that sonos speakers work with touchpads. How do you do that as a 
> blid person? Just use the ios device as volume control?
> 
> I have had some speakers in the past that were way too bassy the bowers and 
> wilkins zeppelin for example. I now have speakers that have a nice balance 
> the audioengine a5plus but they are wired and old.
> 
> The sonos speakers that are currently on my radar are the sonos play:5 mk2 
> and that times two. Not really interested in 2 homepods because they are not 
> yet available here and I think from reading descriptions that i would not 
> like their sound all that much.
> 
> But there are some other speakers that support airplay 2. The reason why 
> sonos is number one currently is that they have their own apps for which i 
> hope that they will work with windows and mac so that i can use them as a 
> stereo pair there as well without having to use itunes.
> 
> Any info and or advice/suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: Home Screen on Instant Pot App

[Sandy Finley]

I just called Apple VO support. The rep was very helpful and immediately sentan 
explanation of the problem to  Instant Pot.  He explained that the menus I 
think are not opening actually are, but that when I flick, the app loses focus. 
He said a work around (and it helped) is, once I have double tapped on whatever 
utton  I am trying to activate, do a one-finger single tap on the left side of 
the screen approximately in the middle between the top ad bottom. (So 
horizontally, the tap is on the extreme eft and vertically, it is in the 
middle.) That seems  to temporarily restore focus.  

At the rep’s request, I also sent feedback to InstantPot through the app. 

Onward and Upward!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> you might also try the pass through gesture. Double tap and hold the second 
> tap, when you hear the tritone, lift and then try another tap, or even a 
> double tap.
> The bottom line though, is they need to fix that part of the app.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."
> Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August 20, 
> 1648)
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
>> GRRR... Sorry, I meant to type triple tapping. Not double tapping which you 
>> obviously already tried.
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cristóbal Muñoz  
>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Home Screen on Instant Pot App
>> 
>> Did you by any chance try double tapping or split tapping too? I find that 
>> sometimes, this works for finicky elements. Not often, but sometimes, I'm 
>> lucky.
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sandra Finley
>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:23 PM
>> To: IPhone 
>> Subject: Home Screen on Instant Pot App
>> 
>> My husband and I were just looking a bit eat the app and I have one 
>> question. On the screen that pops up when i open the app, there is a menu 
>> button. Again, if i double tap, it does not activate. If we turn VO off and 
>> he taps, it opens, and in there are all of the settings I have been looking 
>> for, like "my device", etc. Why can I not open that menu?   
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Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

[Sandy Finley]

I would like to offer a different perspective here. I have Parkinson’s Disease 
and, while it is not severe (and my docs do not think it  will be), I have come 
to appreciate just how much subtle motor control   It takes to use the iPhone 
touch screen. The one thing I  have had to give  up because of Parkinson’s that 
made me sad is using a slate and stylus, which is something I used to do daily 
with considerable speed and accuracy... in fact,that was the impetus that sent 
me to the neurologist. I also have occasional difficulty controlling how many 
times I tap something,be it the iPhone screen or my Victor when I enter the 
title of a book with that cockamainey texting system it uses. 


I am using a Bluetooth keyboard to type this message which, as indicated by  
its length, presents no problem for me. It is the subtle control needed to 
punch dot 4 instead of 1 with a stylus, or to double tap on the phone that is 
challenging.Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> 
> That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
>> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
>> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few 
>> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s 
>> phone system answers.
>> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, 
>> put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone 
>> number:
>> Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
>> You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You 
>> need to do this for each comma.
>> 
>> Sentfrom my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
>>> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
>>> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for 
>>> it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Angie Nutt
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>>> 
>>> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t 
>>> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
>>> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why 
>>> buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it 
>>> quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of 
>>> course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a 
>>> hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their original 
>>> RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I 
>>> just couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but 
 for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how 
 much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that 
 matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few 
 cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if 
 they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a 
 lot of very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to 
 make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make 
 typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think 
 they are better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as 
 possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't get it.
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Russ 
 Kiehne
 Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
 I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the 
 $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on 
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WIFI-Enabled Instant Pot App

[Sandy Finley]

I received one for Christmas and have a lot of questions about the app.  If 
anyone who has one and has figured the app out, even a little bit,  could 
contact me off  list, we can share information without cluttering the list. 

The good news is I was able to connect the pot to our WIFI network very easily; 
the problems are in pulling up recipes.Here are some of my questions.

1. The app for the Bluetooth enabled pot has a Dashboard that can be used to 
configure the pot from the app. How does one control this pot from the app?

2. I see the buttons for categories of recipes but get  inconsistent results 
when I do a One-finger double tap.  On some, such as Meats and Poultry, nothing 
happens; I remain in the same screen I was in before double tapping. With 
Desserts, I get a list of desserts, at least sometimes. If I have been in the 
app for a while, tapping and backing out of screens, I have to close and reopen 
the app to get the buttons to work. 

3. Finally, I am having trouble finding an entire recipe. I find screens with 
what are called “main ingredients” but cannot always find the complete list of 
ingredients or the instructions.  What am I doing wrong?


Sandy Finley
therealsandyfin...@gmail.com

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Braille Inpput: What Helped me Figure it out

[Sandy Finley]

Nicki and others, 

 

I don’t know if this will help you but here is a set of steps I have learned 
from  others that helped me with the braille input.

 

1.When you land in an edit field turn your rotor once to the right. The 
Braille keyboard is usually there because the Braille setting on your rotor 
follows the edit field around. 

 

2.   I find it useful  to use away mode. For some reason, when in table 
mode, dots 1, 2, 3 appear on the right so everything is backwards.

 

3.   Once in a way mode, Do not calibrate just write.

 

Unfortunately, when trying to  use  contracted Braille the app does not echo 
characters. I like to have characters echoed at this point so I write in 
unconstructed Braille.

 

4.   Flick once left to erase a character and once right for space.

5.

6.   When done rotor once left or right, then you can use VO gestures 
again. HTH

 

Sandy 

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Braille Keyboard in iOs8

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When I calibrate the dots on the Braille keyboard there is a difference in
Table and Away modes. In Table mode dots 1, 2, and 3 appear on the right of
the cell; in Away mode they appear on the left. This means that the Table
Mode produces a backwards Braille cell. Is anyone else having this issue? 

 

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RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

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Try searching for KNFB only and see how many results you find. Worked for
me. HTH

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

Ok guys, but I am searching in the appstore for knfb reader, and appears
something like leo or something like that. It is the only result related
with knfb reader. Any clue searching this app in the app store?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

Sieghard,

 

I found exactly what you did. The company did not let us down. Its really
worth its money.  It sounded a bit expensive at the beginning but, when you
see what it does, its worth every penny.  I'm about to delete all the others
also.

I still would like the vibrator to work in the vertical to position for
documents mounted on the wall or bulletin boards.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

I purchased KNFB Reader this morning and tried it with a few printed
documents including a plain letter asking for a donation, an invoice and
something else. I used the phone in portrait mode and also had the letter
size document in portrait mode. KNFB Reader did an outstanding job on the
letter and I had very good results from the invoice and the other document.
The app is outstanding and I have already deleted Prizmo and Text Grabber
from my phone since I don't see myself using them any more now that I have
KNFB Reader.

 

The tilt feedback via vibrations is very useful and the field of view report
is amazing. The fact that it tells you whether you are holding the phone
even the slightest little bit turned with respect to the page qlong with
which edges are visible is awesome.

As Jonathan already pointed out the recognition is lightning fast and what I
really like is how simple the app is. They have definitely outdone
themselves with that app.

I have yet to put it through its paces in other situations, but I am already
very happy about my $100 investment as I know that it will be of much use in
the years to come.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

 

I contacted support at KNFB Reader and was advised to use portrait mode if
possible, both for the document layout and with the phone.

On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kayaker  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying that
taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a portrait improves
results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels lost is on the
order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides to meaningless
background if a full portrait page is in view in landscape

 

I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue.
Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels.

 

 

-k

Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
questions.

 

 

 

On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

 

There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better results.

I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille Press.
it does a great job of helping a blind person understand photography.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org  

 

On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom 
wrote:

 

I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of the
document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they've been thinking
there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not hold the phone
with the camera pointing to the top of the document but rather as if i had
it in landscape mode?

/Krister

 

18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen :

 

Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what you're doing,
but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the phone
lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by putting a page of
text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or visually. Then
hold the phone sideways a few centimetres above the page. Use the vibration
feedback so that the phone stops vibrating, indicating you have the angle
right, then take the picture. For further feedback before you take the
picture, you might use the field of view report, particularly in the early
stages.

Good luck. This thing really rocks s

Check App

[Sandy Finley]

I have downloaded and successfully added someaccounts to this app. For each 
bill that is added there is a field for password. But I have bills that don't 
have a password for the account; all they have is account numbers. Yet, if I do 
not put a password in Check will not link the bill.  /what am I doing wrong?

Sandy

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RE: Experience Descriptive Audio at the Theater with a New iOS App

[Sandy Finley]

I downloaded the manual and it’s talking about reading subtitles. I don’t
see anything about audio description. What am I missing? I’m not interested
in subtitled movies.  Thanks.

 

Sandy

 

 

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Of Jane
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Experience Descriptive Audio at the Theater with a New iOS App

 

That lady had a test version of the app. That track isn't released yet, I
guess, but that track *is* available as an mp3 from

 

www.solo-dx.com

 

At least, I think that's the link, You can buy it there for a buck or so.

 

but the deal with MovieREading is that you are supposed to be able to get
the tracks for free, but you can only play those inside the app.  There's
advantages to MP3s and the app way of doing things.

 

Jane

 

 

 

 

On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Christina C.  wrote:





Thanks for these instructions. :) I have not tried it yet but I have a
question. When and what movies will we be able to try to watch? I don’t
really understand this part. I thought the person who wrote the article on
Blind Bargains was able to try it with the movie Princess Bride.

 

Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :) 

 

On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jane  wrote:





Here's the link:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/moviereading/id460349347?mt=8

You do the compatibility test first by creating an account in Moviereading
or on the web site

www.moviereading.com

After you get to the www.moviereading.com web site, click on How it Works.

Then, wait. Go to the app and click n Market

Click on Compatibility tEst for MOvieReading and download the English
subtitle. There is no audio description track for this movie.

Then, once it's done, click on the movie in the My Movies tab. Then click on
the Play button on the computer, and click OK to let it sync on your
idevice. Then you can read the titles by scrolling with your fingers pretty
quickly back and forth with speech or you can use a Braille display, You
still have to do fancy fingerwork, but it's quieter with Braille.

Jane




On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 wrote:




I did an AppStore search for one-string as follows: MovieReading and it
popped right up for me.

I can't find out on the website using my PC how to do the compatibility
test. If anyone figures this out, please let me. I did successfully sign up.

Keith

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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:37 PM
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Cc: viphone; Vip-l Mailing list; savi-people
Subject: Re: Experience Descriptive Audio at the Theater with a New iOS App

I am unable to find the app.  How did you find it?

Sent from my iPhone




On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:

For your information.

Regards
Joanne

Experience Descriptive Audio at the Theater with a New iOS App MovieReading
Article link: http://blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=9923


Posted by Alena Roberts today 5:45 PM ET
blindbargains.com

Many theaters around the country are starting to offer the visually
impaired the option of listening to the descriptive audio track while
they're watching a film. Sadly though, this technology is not
available everywhere, and sometimes it doesn't work. The team at
Solo-DX wants to make the experience better by having the blind
film-goer use a smart phone app to listen to the descriptive audio
track instead. Last week, I had the opportunity to test out the new
MovieReading app. The interface is very simple. Once you're logged in,
you visit the Marketplace, download the descriptive audio track for
the film you're going to go see at your theater, and than start the
track when your film begins. The app will listen to the audio in the
theater and sync the audio track with where the film is so that the
user doesn't have to try and match the two tracks themselves. to test
the app, I downloaded the Princess Bride track and then watched some
Youtube clips from the film. In all three cases, the sync option
worked perfectly. The MovieReading app's latest version is expected to
be released before November 22nd, the opening day of the film
"Philomena" which will be the first movie to use the app's new
features. MovieReading is currently available on iOS, and they hope to
have an Android version soon. Pasted below is a press release from
Solo-DX about the MovieReading app and "Philomena".

As exclusive U.S. partners with Universal Multimedia Access, Hollywood
Access Services is releasing Solo-Dx on MovieReading, the first ever
auto-syncing audio description app available for first-run movies. The
debut title on this exciting new platform will be The Weinstein
Company¹s Philomena, in theaters November 22. Using acoustic
fingerprinting technology, this new auto-syncing method will
completely change moviegoing for the blind and visually impaired via
thei

iTunes album purchase inadvertently deleted

[Sandy Finley]

I purchased an album through iTunes and I inadvertently deleted it from the
album list. It is still in the iTunes Library folder on my computer but the
album does not appear in iTunes itself, either on my PC or  my iPhone. I
have tried the following:

1.found the folder in the recycle bin and attempted a restore.  

2.   Clicked "Update iTunes Match" on the PC.

3.   Looked in my iTunes account settings; album is listed as a
"purchased" but I see no download button. 'Any ideas? Thanks.

 

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RE: What app's do you use the most on a daily basis?

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Downcast, At Bat, Voicebrief, BARD, VomceDream, Tune In


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What app's do you use the most on a daily basis?

Some more that I haven't seen mentioned yet:
Yocto Clock, for the daily wake up alarm and weather forecast
Pro Football Radio and Live Scores, for my weekly NFL fix and score updates
Checkie
Booking.com, for the occasional hotel reservation
Wall Greens, to refill medications
iTreadMill

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/24/13, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
> Shop shop, alarmed, the native calendar, IYot (not sure of the spelling),
> kings corner, 10 itemsMBraille,  and of course the native apps like email
> notes and phone.
> God bless!
> Paula and Babe
>
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>
> Here are some of the ones I use regularly: Audible, the BARD Mobile app,
> TuneIn Radio, Muxica, iAssociate 2, TweetList, Daily Devo and others.
>
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>> As for me, Taptapsee, Google maps, money identifier looktell, Pandora,
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RE: handwriting help

[Sandy Finley]

OK.  I am now in Accessibility.
I have just double tapped VoiceOver On, followed by the same for VoiceOver
Practice.
The toggle switch is set to "Handwriting help' in other words, if I touch
that toggle it says, "general help" and I am not double tapping it.
Now, when I touch the screen VO says,
"Touch, draw letters and numbers on the screen to input text..."

I thought that this was a place where I could practie my handwriting on the
screen. Is my expectation wrong? Doesn't seem like much help!
 


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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:33 PM
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Subject: Re: handwriting help

Hi Sandy,

You don't need to have the rotor on handwriting to get handwriting help. You
do need to have selected it so that it can appear on the rotor, but you can
have the rotor set to anything you like when you go to VoiceOVer settings
and double-tap the VoiceOver Practice button.

HTH,
Anna



On Oct 9, 2013, at 7:45 PM, Sandy Finley  wrote:

> Anna, There is something that is still confusing me about what you say.
> At what point in this process do I select handwriting on the rotor? 
> Right now I am on the home screen. If I select handwriting on the 
> rotor from there, I cannot go into "settings"; the entire screen is 
> devoted to and writing.  Yet, if I go into "Voiceover Practice," 
> Handwriting is not s setting on my rotor because the rotor is so 
> context sensitive. I'm missing something. Thanks for your patience.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: handwriting help
> 
> Hi,
> 
> From the voiceOver settings screen, choose Practice Gestures. If the 
> button in the top left corner says Handwriting Help, double-tap it. 
> Now, as you make gestures on the screen, VoiceOver will tell you what 
> they do when you set the rotor to Handwriting.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> says,
> 
> 
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Sandy Finley  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi.  I am trying to activate Handwriting Help that is under VoiceOver 
>> in
> Accessibility ; I see the toggle between Handwriting Hebb_lp and 
> General ""HELP but I see no difference in the screen. I have 
> Handwriting activated on the rotor.What am I doing wrong? Thanks.'
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sandy Finley
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: handwriting help

[Sandy Finley]

Anna, There is something that is still confusing me about what you say.
At what point in this process do I select handwriting on the rotor? Right
now I am on the home screen. If I select handwriting on the rotor from
there, I cannot go into "settings"; the entire screen is devoted to and
writing.  Yet, if I go into "Voiceover Practice," Handwriting is not s
setting on my rotor because the rotor is so context sensitive. I'm missing
something. Thanks for your patience.
 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: handwriting help

Hi,

>From the voiceOver settings screen, choose Practice Gestures. If the button
in the top left corner says Handwriting Help, double-tap it. Now, as you
make gestures on the screen, VoiceOver will tell you what they do when you
set the rotor to Handwriting.

Best,
Anna
says, 


On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Sandy Finley  wrote:

> 
> Hi.  I am trying to activate Handwriting Help that is under VoiceOver in
Accessibility ; I see the toggle between Handwriting Hebb_lp and General
""HELP but I see no difference in the screen. I have Handwriting activated
on the rotor.What am I doing wrong? Thanks.'
> 
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handwriting help

[Sandy Finley]

Hi.  I am trying to activate Handwriting Help that is under VoiceOver in 
Accessibility ; I see the toggle between Handwriting Hebb_lp and General ""HELP 
but I see no difference in the screen. I have Handwriting activated on the 
rotor.What am I doing wrong? Thanks.'



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iTunes: How to delete an album

[Sandy Finley]

I want to delete some albums I have downloaded onto my iPad. I see where it is 
possible to delete individual songs but not an  entire album with a single 
swipe or tap. I want to delete off of this device only, not from the iTunes 
library. If I wanted to do that I' use the PC. 

Sandy Finley
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Reader Available

[Sandy Finley]

I am having difficulty finding the Reader when in Safari , even after hearing 
the "reader available" announcement. I am looking just below the status bar on 
the right side of the screen. What am I doing wrong? Thanks.

Sandy Finley
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Re: BARD app link

[Sandy Finley]

I tried Bardmobile before asking the list and I did not ssee it in the 
suggested list. What is the virtual keyboard you are referring to? I don't know 
where to look for the search button. Thanks.

Sandy Finley
Sent from my iPhone


On 22 Sep 2013, at 4:41 am, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I used BARDMobile for a search term. I also had to press the search button in 
the virtual keyboard. It didn't show up in the suggestion list.

> On 09/21/2013 08:59 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:
> I hate to admit this, but I cannot find the link. What is the corrrect search 
> termm? Thanks.
> 
> Sandy Finley
> Sent from my iPhone

-- 
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BARD app link

[Sandy Finley]

I hate to admit this, but I cannot find the link. What is the corrrect search 
termm? Thanks.

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RE: IPad that is in need of surgery

[Sandy Finley]

Joanne, I learned how to put the iPad into Recovery Mode and restored it
last evening. For the moment I look like a genius in my husband's eyes
Smile!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joanne Chua
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Subject: Re: IPad that is in need of surgery

 

what about trying doing a full IOS restore thru itunes on the computer?

 

 

 

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On 04/09/2013, at 10:42, "Sandy Finley"  wrote:

I recently purchased two used iPads, one for me and one  for my husband. His
is an older one that he's been using for iTunes and reading eh paper. Today
it crashed.  I tried the reset with the home button and the on/off switch,
holding them in together until the Apple logo appears. The machine then
begins to boot up and crashes mid-recovery. Is there anything else we can
do? I hate to think that it's toast and that I might actually have to share
mine!

Sandy

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IPad that is in need of surgery

[Sandy Finley]

I recently purchased two used iPads, one for me and one  for my husband. His
is an older one that he's been using for iTunes and reading eh paper. Today
it crashed.  I tried the reset with the home button and the on/off switch,
holding them in together until the Apple logo appears. The machine then
begins to boot up and crashes mid-recovery. Is there anything else we can
do? I hate to think that it's toast and that I might actually have to share
mine!

Sandy

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IPad and iPhone differences

[Sandy Finley]

I just purchased a used iPad2 from our own Brent and am learning to use it.
I see some differences between it and my iPhone4s  that I don't quite
understand about the screen and some settings. Both have the latest 6X
software. Could some of you who have used both write to me privately so I
can ask you some detailed questions? Thanks.

 

Sandy

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iOs 5.1 and contacts

[Sandy Finley]

My husband is working with an older iPad that has iOs 5.1 and cannot be
updated. I set up his gmail account but cannot find the place to check
"contacts on." In iOs6  I know how to do this,  but I can't find it in iOs
5.1. It's pulling down emails but contacts is empty.  Anyone know what I am
missing?

 

 

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ITunes: An older version

[Sandy Finley]

I have a used iPad that has 5 point something iOs and it cannot be updated
to 6.  I'm downloading all of our music on it. I cannot find a button to
download efficiently. Is there none or am I missing it? The only way I have
found is to go into an album and at the end of the list of songs there is a
"download all" button. But we have hundreds of albums! I see no download all
buttons  like the ones on my iPhone.  Does anyone know  if there is a better
way to do this?

 

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Updating Software on an Ipad 1

[Sandy Finley]

Is it possible to update iOs on an iPad 1? There is  more than sufficient
storage space on the device but when I go to settings and click softwaare
update I am getting a message that the software is up to date.

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Reregistering Seeing Eye App

[Sandy Finley]

Hi.  When I purchased this app I did not register it as I was kind of tired
and I thought I had read that I could register later.  Now I can't find
where to go back to register.  Does anyone know?

 

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RE: mbraille is available

[Sandy Finley]

Eileen, I have been looking at the free app for the moment and am move than
impressed! Writing in contracted Braille is wonderful.  I am not clear yet
on the table mode. Can you explin how that works? 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eileens Misrahi
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mbraille is available

Hi Rob,

When you download the free app, you can access the help menu. All of the
info is there to get you started. There are several of us on this list that
can give you further assistance if you need it. Try it. I think you will be
pleasantly surprised. HTH.
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2013, at 2:20 PM, "RobH!"  wrote:

> Is there any online instructions or descriptions for it yet?  I found 
> nothing in the appstore entry when I tried it.
> 
> Ta, R.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jenifer Barr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: mbraille is available
> 
> 
> I agree Chris. Granted I need to get the hang of this ap but already 
> it seems to be more user friendly... just in the hand placement than 
> brailletouch. Just my opinion.
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> To me now Mbraille is out there is no excuse in the delay for Grade 2 
>> support in BrailleTouch. Apparently this app was in development for 
>> only a few months and look at where they are already at 1.0. 
>> BrailleTouch however has been developed for years and still no grade 
>> 2. Not impressed but that's just me.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 26/06/2013 17:56, Louise Redsull wrote:
>>> On first glance this looks like a great app. I find it really 
>>> difficult to do the "for" contraction even with their advice it 
>>> seems a little hit and miss.
>>> I think it's best feature is the ability to send messages and things 
>>> write from the Braille keyboard by typing in shortcuts. This makes 
>>> it as if it is integrated into the operating system, well as close 
>>> as it is possible to do that at any rate.
>>> I brought Braille Touch and though I liked it I feel it has been six 
>>> months now and still no grad 2 braille which we were promised. I 
>>> know these things take time but a number of Braille input apps in 
>>> the store are now offering this.
>>> 
>>> Louise.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sharonda Greenlaw
>>> Sent: 26 June 2013 5:15 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: mbraille is available
>>> 
>>> For $10 more, you get tweet, fb, five other languages, contractions?
>>> That is a very good deal. They way I see it is this... Either you 
>>> like writing in uncontracted braille? Maybe BrailleTouch is the app for
you.
>>> If
>>> you prefer writing in contracted braille? Then mBraille is the app 
>>> for you.
>>> They both are great apps. Thanks for sharing. I just joined the 
>>> email list for mBraille.
>>> 
>>> Sharonda
>>> 
>>> On 6/26/13, Maria & Joe Chapman  wrote:
 HI.  you can only type and tweet in the free version in the paid 
 version you can email, send to facebook, sms and copy to clip board 
 o and add to calendar.  think i have them all.
 
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 will get you fb as well as email & iMessage.
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 27/06/2013, at 1:26 AM, "Donald L. Roberts"
 
 wrote:
 
> What features are available in the paid version which are not 
> present in the free version?
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
> 
> On 6/26/2013 3:52 AM, Rebecca Ilniski wrote:
>> Yes there is a help file when you download the app. You can tweet 
>> with the free version and also get help with the app. To Hi Annie.
>> Some of the languages supported are: English, Danish, Norwegian, 
>> Scandinavian. I know there's a few more. If you want to help it's 
>> best to join the email group as the we are constantly dialoging 
>> with the developer. There's supposed to be another release next 
>> week so it's ongoing with more languages to come.
>> 
>> 
>> Rebecca and Zeb
>> email: rilni...@gmail.com
>> facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5 sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:44 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rebeca.
>> 
>> Which languages is supported? Would it be possible to add danish 
>> contracted and uncontracted, I will be willing to help.
>> 
>> Cheers Annie.
>> Den Jun 26, 2013 kl. 10:39 AM skrev Rebecca Ilniski
>> :
>> 
>>> Hi all.  MBraille is now available.  As a tester, I can say that 
>>> this app is awesome as it supports contr

RE: Braille Touch Update? Curious..........

[Sandy Finley]

I am searching in the app store and not finding it   Anyone else
experiencing this as well?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eileens Misrahi
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Touch Update? Curious..

Hello,

I know that you made reference to BrailleTouch and an update to have access
to contracted braille. I want to let you know that MBraille has just been
release and is in the app store. The app support contracted and uncontracted
braille. One can text, tweet, Facebook, email, and set appointments directly
from the app. You can preview what you have wiritten by characters, words,
and sentences. Editing is available to copy, cut, or paste text. You can set
appointments with alarms. Currently, MBraille support 6 languages, with more
languages to be supported in the future. As a tester of this app, it has
been a pleasure to be able to create text, edit, and increase my speed in
performing these tasks with confidence. I am sure that you will enjoy the
app as much as I have so far. You can download the free version and take it
for a test drive before purchasing the full version. HTH.

Best,
Eileenot

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Nimit Kaur  wrote:

> Hello all, I really like Braille Touch and am wondering if it is ever 
> going to be updated?  Just curious...  Is it going to stay 
> like that?  Just curious if anybody ever heard any info on this app or 
> not.  Thanks!  :)
> 
> --
> Important quotes that people need to read and understand:
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> VISION!!" By STEVIE WONDER
> 
> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND THINK!!"
> By STEVIE WONDER
> 
> Nimit
> 
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Voice Dream Questions

[Sandy Finley]

I have a question re the VoiceDream update. I am hoping to get responses
both from Winston and from other VO users familiar with the program.

 

I created two folders for myself, one for books and one for web sites.  As
dumb as this sounds, now I cannot find the content I  had in Voice Dream
prior to creating those folders.  I had a couple of BookShare books, a N Y
Times and some web pages. They are not on either the home screen or the
folders screen and the newly created folders are empty.

 

Thanks for the pronunciation dictionary; that is great!

 

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Is this a bug in VO?

[Sandy Finley]

I have 2 folders with apps in them; I want to label one Shopping and one
Knitting. I have successfully labeled many folder so it's not that I cannot
do it. But when I change the label of one of these two, the other changes as
well so I end up with 2 folders both called either Shopping or Knitting.

 

It occurs to me that the  name given to both folders by IOS when they were
formed is Lifestyle. Is this why I can't give them different labels? If so,
is there a workaround?  

 

Sandy

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Labeling Elements: Done vs. save

[Sandy Finley]

When labeling elements, such as buttons or folders, why are there buttons
for both "save" and "done?"  

 

I am trying to label some folders full of apps; some accept my label and
some d  not and I can't see anything I am doing different.  Have tried
double tapping both buttons for save and done.

 

Sandy

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ITunes Match is Available for Sandy Finley...

[Sandy Finley]

The subject line says it all. All is working well; MP3 files are on both my
phone and Jim's iPod.  As I tab around  in  iTunes I get a message that
says, "Itunes is available for" followed by my Apple ID. I have pressed
enter omit. I have turned iTunes match off and back on on the PC, iPhone and
iPod.  Message is still there. Anyone know what it's trying to tell me?

 

Sandy 

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RE: MP3 files and iTunes

[Sandy Finley]

Tom and Alan, I think I got it.  I copied the files using the "add folders
to library" utility, put the music in a play list, and then found "create
eversion." there are 3 choices, including iPhone version, which is disabled.
My only alternative Is aac. Do you know what that is? Maybe I don't need to
do anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MP3 files and iTunes

 

Sandy, I know at least one other person has already posted a reply but I'm
curious what actual steps you took when you copied the mp3 files into your
library. Did you do this through iTunes using the File, Add File to Library
or File, Add Folder to Library menu options? My understanding is that music
on your computer that you want to sync with your iDevice must be in your
iTunes library and must reside in the folder structure you've identified to
iTunes in its Edit, Preferences options. After you ensure that is the case,
using playlists to control what content is synced is the way I handle music
transfers.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:27 AM
To: 'VIAPHONE'
Subject: MP3 files and iTunes

 

I have some mp3 files that were given to me and I want to play them on my
phone.  I have copied them into my music library. I have a couple of
questions.

 

 

All of the music is by one artist; it is all in one folder in the same
manner as the rest of the music files. And when I open an album file I see
the individuall tracks, eachof which has an MP3 extension. . On my phone I
see the artist but I  don't see all of the music.  Some of the albums don't
show up at all. I right clicked on the individual song titles thinking I'd
find a place to convert the file from MP3 but it's not there.  

 

Is there a way to do what I want to do? Thanks.

 

Sandy 

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RE: MP3 files and iTunes

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Ok, now I have added the music through the Add Folders to Library feature;
they're all there.  Now what is it I'm doing with a play list?  I don't get
that part.

 

Is there any virtue in converting the music from MP3 to some other file
extension? Thanks a lot.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MP3 files and iTunes

 

Sandy, I know at least one other person has already posted a reply but I'm
curious what actual steps you took when you copied the mp3 files into your
library. Did you do this through iTunes using the File, Add File to Library
or File, Add Folder to Library menu options? My understanding is that music
on your computer that you want to sync with your iDevice must be in your
iTunes library and must reside in the folder structure you've identified to
iTunes in its Edit, Preferences options. After you ensure that is the case,
using playlists to control what content is synced is the way I handle music
transfers.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:27 AM
To: 'VIAPHONE'
Subject: MP3 files and iTunes

 

I have some mp3 files that were given to me and I want to play them on my
phone.  I have copied them into my music library. I have a couple of
questions.

 

 

All of the music is by one artist; it is all in one folder in the same
manner as the rest of the music files. And when I open an album file I see
the individuall tracks, eachof which has an MP3 extension. . On my phone I
see the artist but I  don't see all of the music.  Some of the albums don't
show up at all. I right clicked on the individual song titles thinking I'd
find a place to convert the file from MP3 but it's not there.  

 

Is there a way to do what I want to do? Thanks.

 

Sandy 

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MP3 files and iTunes

[Sandy Finley]

I have some mp3 files that were given to me and I want to play them on my
phone.  I have copied them into my music library. I have a couple of
questions.

 

 

All of the music is by one artist; it is all in one folder in the same
manner as the rest of the music files. And when I open an album file I see
the individuall tracks, eachof which has an MP3 extension. . On my phone I
see the artist but I  don't see all of the music.  Some of the albums don't
show up at all. I right clicked on the individual song titles thinking I'd
find a place to convert the file from MP3 but it's not there.  

 

Is there a way to do what I want to do? Thanks.

 

Sandy 

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RE: Listening to Voiceover

[Sandy Finley]

Bryce, your colleague was way out of line. I just asked my sighted husband
about it and he made the following observation Sighted people are seen
constantly holding the phone up to one ear while using the other hand to
write with a pen. Maybe they are taking notes on the phone call; maybe
writing a grocery list. 
Why would what you are doing look any weirder? My personal preference is to
plug in the iPhone ear buds and put one in one ear and listen to what I am
typing.  Butt's not because of appearance, it's because of preference.

Sieghard makes a great point about a bllind person tapping along with a
white cane or having a dog lying under the table;... Your colleague eeds to
take a hike.


Sandy



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Listening to Voiceover

Hi Bryce,

Also keep in mind that just because one colleague thinks it looks weird and
unprofessional it doesn't mean everybody thinks that. It may also look
unprofessional in certain situations to try and find your way around by
tapping along with a white cane or at least some may say that it is. In any
case, whether it is or isn't is in my opinion beyond the point, you do what
you have to do. I prefer a headset but if I didn't have one and had to type
a message I'd have no problems holding the phone in whichever way allows me
to do so.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listening to Voiceover

Thanks, Raul. You touch on the reason I started this; the whole "holding the
phone up close to the ear and tapping away." This is what I've naturally
preferred, but a colleague pointed out how weird and unprofessional it
looks. It's not something I had thought about before and I was kind of
caught off guard. It does make sense how odd it probably looks to hold a
phone up chest level or next to your cheek or ear and type, though.

I do not have hearing problems at all. Still, at least for me, I've got to
have the voice near my ear when typing because when using touch typing it
can be difficult to really hear Samantha in a lot of environments without
turning the volume up. These are the only times I wish the iPhone had a
physical keyboard.

Finally, the speakers on the iPhone 4s are kind of bad, anyway. When I was
using a Mophie Battery Juice case the speakers faced up which made the sound
clearer.

Just some observations.

Brice

On 5/25/13, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset 
> like the Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700 
> and am liking the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't 
> found a comfortable fit for it yet. So, still on the fence about that 
> one. I find that the single-ear headset is good for me because I can 
> pull it out right away if I need total hearing with both ears, but at 
> the same time it's not jammed in my ear totally covering it in case I 
> need it either. For phone calls the M50 sucks in my opinion, but for 
> all the other pros it offers I still think it's the best single-ear 
> headset. If I need something covering both of my ears I will either 
> use the Motorola
> S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, has great range, 
> and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has a slightly 
> annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth headsets 
> have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and 
> the
> HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.
>
> I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that 
> radiation flowing through my skull and because since we are all going 
> to die some day, why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple 
> earpods, and I'm not sure if I will get them since I have a bit of 
> choice of things already. yes it's more to charge, but I also have a
> 3-in-1 charger usb cable with the standard usb end on one side which 
> plugs into a usb charger wall plug on one end, and the other end has 
> either a 30-pin for iPhone 4, and then it has a lightning plug for 
> iPhone 5 and newer, and lastly, a Micro USB for the headsets or an 
> Android
phone.
>
> Since I usually carry around a extra battery pack from new Trent which 
> holds either 6000 or 12,000 mAH depending on the one I use, I'm good 
> with not running out of juice if I'm around places I can't connect to 
> a wall.
>
> Lastly, if I don't have all my gadgets with me, I will hold the phone 
> close to my ear like I'm making a phone call and tap away that way. We 
> live in a sighted world and so I try to not appear to be socially 
> inept, however many sighted people do worse things, and we just don't 
> know about them because we can't see them

RE: NLS Update on Talking Book App

[Sandy Finley]

I have not read every message on this thread but one reason why I will keep
a Stream or something like it is battery life.  When I can, I run batteries
down to 5% or so before I charge them. Earlier today was charging my phone
and I was doing housework. I had Victor in my pocket so I could read while
the phone was charging.

I am not going to buy a new Victor until either the wireless is operational
with BARD and Bookshare or when my old one dies.   Until then I see no
purpose to buying a new one.

Sandy

Sandy 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NLS Update on Talking Book App

Even though the NLS digital player is the last holdout for me and my digital
reading, meaning that all my other reading is done on the iPhone or now,
ipad, I think I will still keep the player when the NLS app comes out.
However because I'm a technogeak I still can't wait to do everything on the
iPhone or iPad. On a slightly different reading topic, lately I've been
switching reading the same Audible audio book between the iPhone and iPad
and the syncing works awesome between the 2. If I'm at home I use the iPad
and if I'm out on the bus and waiting around I use the iPhone and I don't
lose my place.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
I love my mother, but my feelings for my spot are much greater. - Sheldon
Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 5/25/2013 12:22 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
> I agree. choice is good!
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Arnold Schmidt 
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:18 AM
> *Subject:* Re: NLS Update on Talking Book App
>
> They definitely got it right with their digital player, right out of
> the box, as opposed to taking years to get their cassette player to
> be acceptable.  As for converting their analog library to digital, I
> am all for it, so I can read them with their player, my stream, or
> maybe, one day, their app.
> Arnold Schmidt
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Alan Paganelli 
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: NLS Update on Talking Book App
>
> Chuck, the sad thing is, I can remember when Talking books came
> on a 12 inch record and they played at 33 and a third RPMs and
> was ticked off when they went to 10 inch records at 16 RPMs and
> then all that new-fangled cassettes thing on 2 tracks.  That
> wasn't good enough though for them,  They then had to go from 2
> track to 4 tracks and then they went a step farther and cut
> playback speed in half.  They said quality wouldn't suffer but
> they were wrong.  It did.  The best thing to happen to talking
> books was they went digital.  Sound quality went up greatly if
> you were listening to a new recording but then trouble struck
> again with budget cuts.  Far fewer new books were being recorded
> and they started emptying out the tape libraries and digitizing
> those along with some restorazations of older books on record.
> Still, the best sounding recordings come from new books being
> recording for the first time.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Chuck Dean 
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:19 AM
> *Subject:* Re: NLS Update on Talking Book App
>
> Hi Joe,
> While I am looking forward to the IOS app, there is
> something about using the talking book machine supplied by
> NLS that is comforting. I like the physical buttons and the
> sturdy feel of the machine. Perhaps it is just a throwback
> to when I first started using talking books on cassette...
> Which was a big deal back then.
>
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors.
>
> On May 25, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Alan Paganelli
>  > wrote:
>
>> I have to agree with you here.  I have an iPhone 4 and
>> even a Nano 5 and yet I still take my Victor Reader Stream
>> with me.  The 1 thing I do like about the new Stream is
>> it's ability to be recharged via a USB connector this
>> saving the need for yet one more recharger in the bag.
>> Still, it would be nice to have a talking book handy for
>> those times when your sitting around with your thumb up
>> 

Liner Notes for Music

[Sandy Finley]

Does anyone know if it is possible to download liner notes for music? I
presume that, if it is possible, one can download only the notes of
purchased music and not those for music that has been digitized from  a CD,
even when it is available through iTunes Match? I am looking in itunes and
haven't found it. Thanks.

 

sandy  

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More than one shuffle button on the phone?

[Sandy Finley]

I recently complained on this list that my husband's iPod was not playing
albums in order. Eventually my iPhone wasn't either.  I called Apple Care
about this and although the problem has been fixed I am still baffled by the
man's explanation.

 

According to the rep there is not one, but two shuffle buttons on the phone.
He described the one he wanted me to change as a crisscross f arrows that
changes colors when it is tapped. Fortunately, my sighted husband was here
and he found it and tapped it until it was the requisite white, which means
off. Orange means shuffle. The weird part is, not only was the music on my
phone instantly straighten out, but so was the music on his iPod.  It is as
if there are two buttons: the one you tap just to shuffle an album or play
list and this  master switch that shuffle the entire world.  Does anybody
understand what I am talking about? Now I am afraid to shuffle a play list
for fear I'll inadvertently trip this master switch again.

 

Sandy 

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RE: Activating app switcher on bluetooth keyboard

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Some Blue Tooth keyboards,such s the Logitech 760 solar one I have, have a
dedicated home key on the top row.  I pup a Braille dot on it for ease of
location.
 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Activating app switcher on bluetooth keyboard

Hi there.
On a bluetooth keyboard, pressing control, option and the letter h, twice
quickly, should bring up the app switcher. To close out of the app switcher,
press control, option, h once.
Hope this helps.

Jess

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Re: Assistive Touch Being Intrusive

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What a great idea! I have noticed my Home key starting to get just a bit 
sluggish; this will help.

Sandy Finley
Sent from my iPhone


On 21/05/2013, at 7:57 PM, "E V"  wrote:

Hi,
 
I use assistive Touch all the time.  Here is how I use it.  First of all, I 
moved the icon out of the way to an area just below the iPhone earpiece.  
Rather than relying on the home key for every thing, I activate the Touch Menu 
and click on home, which takes me to the home screen.  I also use it to get to 
the App Switcher by activating the Touch Menu and clicking on Device, then on 
More, then on MultiTasking which brings me to the App Switcher.  That is how I 
use it, you don't have to do that if you don't want.
 
 
Edward
 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eddie Salcido
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Assistive Touch Being Intrusive

I accidentally turned on assistive touch and now, it appears in the upper left 
corner of the phone, no matter what I do.  Also, it prevents me from accessing 
any type of settings.  When I go to settings on my I phone 5, that assistive 
touch menu comes up and there’s no way I can get out of it.  Any thoughts?
Eddie
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Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.

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Ari ,my stepson left his lap top on our balcony and went for a walk. There was 
an unexpected storm and the entire computer was soaked. Rice did the trick and 
he's still using the machine a year later.

Sandy Finley
Sent from my iPhone


On 16/05/2013, at 6:08 AM, Arianna  wrote:

Hello, Lauren,


thank you so much for the quick response. I have taken the phone out of it's 
case; in fact, it was the first thing I did. After holding the phone upright 
for some time, the speaker sounds normal again.

I've heard of burying it in rice for a day can help with this sort of thing. 
Have you tried that before?


Thanks,
Ari

On May 16, 2013, at 3:34 AM, "Lauren Simmons"  wrote:

> I would pull the phone out of it's case and let it sit for the next couple of 
> days until all water evaporates. If you continue to mess with it there might 
> be some water-related battery damage.
> 
> LS
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Arianna" 
> To: "VIPhone Email List" 
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> Subject: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.
> 
> 
> How can I fix this? I had my phone on the edge of the sink, and it fell 
> inside while I was washing my hands. I didn't know about it until later, when 
> I couldn't find my bone and went into the bathroom to check the sink. Anyhow, 
> the speaker has been muffled, although the sound coming through headphones is 
> fine. There wasn't too much water on the phone or in it's case, but a little 
> goes a very long way.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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RE: password apps

[Sandy Finley]

Raul, I'llfind it; I just spelled it wrong. Silly me; I thought it was k e
y!


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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: password apps

Hi, MiniKeepass is one I highly recommend but it's got a lot of features. If
you want something very simple for passwords, Strip or Strip Lite will also
work. If you do a search on the list archive for messages from me and the
keywords strip and minikeepass then you will find the message I wrote
several months ago about this topic. Both of these are excellent programs.
If you need the links to the programs let me know and I'll get those for
you. If you can't find my message from the list archives I will also find
it.

Thanks much.

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ID: rau47

On 5/13/2013 6:31 AM, Sandy Finley wrote:
> There has been some talk here of late re apps to store passwords; I 
> forget the names. Can someone recommend one? Thanks.
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password apps

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There has been some talk here of late re apps to store passwords; I forget
the names. Can someone recommend one? Thanks.

 

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Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare

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I disliked downloading cookbooks from BookShare because I always wondered about 
the accuracy of the scan with numbers - 6 looking like 8 and so on. I do not 
plan on downloading novels from Kindle unless I really, really need to read 
something and cannot get it elsewhere. Wouldn't like reading it with the VO 
voices. /For reference books I am delighted to have it.


Sandy Finley
Sent from my iPhone


On 12/05/2013, at 3:17 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

For the most part, any book you get on Kindle will be perfectly legible. There 
is always the question with BookShare of how legible the scanned material will 
be, and I frankly don't read BookShare books that have a "good" rating or 
below. I have an uncanny knack for discovering a book in which the climax of 
the narrative takes place on poorly-scanned copy. Also, I may only buy two 
books a year for about twenty dollars, versus the fifty dollars for BookShare 
per year, which is not in my budget. I do, like other listers, tend to look at 
the Braille and recorded book libraries for such things first, but find that 
for rare cases, I don't want to wait for the book to be processed.

Teresa
On May 12, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

> One big advantage to the kindle app is the amazing number of books we, as 
> blind readers, now have the ability to access in one place.  It was stated, 
> in a recent Tech Doctor podcast, that this number is 1.8 million (I have not 
> confirmed this.)  Not all these books will be readable with this app (the 
> ones that are images), and not all books on Amazon are available through 
> Kindle, but just having such a large number of readable books is the biggest 
> advantage. Another advantage is how quickly we will be able to buy these 
> books after they are issued as print copies.  They probably are available 
> through kindle within a few days of publication. The Nook, and Google Books 
> services will have some of them, but Amazon has the largest number of eBooks.
> 
> That having been written, as a blind reader, because I could not own books at 
> a reasonable price, I am very use to borrowing and reading books, and until 
> recently, returning them.   So, I assure you, I check Bookshare, Bard, 
> Learning Ally, or any other legal source from which I can borrow and read 
> books, before I buy them.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> - Original Message - From: "Eileens Misrahi" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:49 AM
> Subject: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
> 
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> Besides the obvious of,Bookshare not having a particular book,  what other 
> advantages does the Kindle app have over using Bookshare to access books? I 
> will check Bookshare first to see if the book that I want to read is there to 
> download because of the ability to download the book for free. I have 
> "Read2Go" & Voice Dream apps on the phone to accomplish this. What features 
> in the Kindle app is unique to app that is not in the other apps? Input on 
> this would be great.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
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Kindle App Documentation

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Having successfully downloaded and begun to navigate a cookbook I have
always wanted, I am looking for some documentation. I am more than willing
to read if I can find the appropriate documentation. Here are some of my
questions:

 

Location feature: What does it mean when v O says something like, "location
4 of 68,102" mean? It's surely not percentage!

   

I am getting the search feature to work. Am not sure how to select text to
save or bookmark it after I find it.  

 

I got the excellent reference guide; just need now to go beyond it and would
love some more written documentation. Any recommendations?

 

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RE: importing all music in to iTunes, what's the secret?

[Sandy Finley]

So what is the secret?  I have digitized our vast CD collection. Many albums
are just fine but others are not in the proper order, and sometimes that
matters. In some cases I was able to reorder the music by using the Control
I dialog box and edit some of the settings but that does not always seem to
work.

 

Sandy

 

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Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: importing all music in to iTunes, what's the secret?

 

If any of the music you imported into iTunes is in a nonsupported format
such as flac, that music will not show up. You'll need to convert it into a
supported format such as mp3, AAC, MP4, etc. before importing.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Of Kliphton
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: importing all music in to iTunes, what's the secret?

 

Okay, the subject line says it all.  I have all my music in folders
organized by artist, with each of their albums in folders with their name.
Now I am using the mac for this task, and when I go to import, I go to the
folder, open it, let all the rows of artist to be displayed, then click
open.  It says it is importing all of the music, but when I go to look for
some music, under a artists name, there is clearly some albums missing.
More than 2 or 3 also.  So what is the trick, to make sure iTunes doesn't
skip any of these albums?  I have already tried Google, that's why I am here
now.

 

 

Kliphton Senior

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RE: Buying A Kindle Book With The Amazon App

[Sandy Finley]

I am trying to purchase a book with my PC, not with the Amazon App on my
phone.  I have the book on my wish list. I then click on the book's title
and I get the following message:
" This mobile site does not currently support the purchase of this item. Add
it to
your Wish List and you can view and purchase it from your computer."


But I am on my computer; I am not on a mobile web site. And the book is
already on my wish list. It's as if I am in a loop.  

I have used Amazon to buy many things; the account is long established.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Barry
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Buying A Kindle Book With The Amazon App

As stated many times here; you cannot purchase through the app. You have to
use the website.

At 03:49 AM 5/9/2013, you wrote:
>Whenever I try to buy a kindle book through the amazon app, it tells me 
>that this mobile app does not support kindle downloads, gives me the 
>option to add it to my wish list, and I am then supposed to log into 
>amazon with my browser and buy it from my wish list.  But on the latest 
>Tech Doctor podcast, the subject of which was the kindle app, Dr. 
>Carter implied that he had been able to buy a book directly from this 
>app.  I know that he reads this list sometimes, so if you see this, Dr. 
>Carter, please tell me how you were able to buy a book without the 
>additional two steps.  Or, if anybody else knows, let me know.  I am 
>willing to log in with Safari to buy it, but if it can be done directly 
>with the amazon app, I would like to know how to do it.
>
>Thanks for any information.
>
>Arnold Schmidt
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Access Note won't Stay Open

[Sandy Finley]

The subject says it all.  I have been using Access Note successfully and
often to take notes at meetings at work.  Now when I launch the app it won't
stay open.  I hear "access note, all notes" and then the app closes. The
only change I can think of is that I placed the app in a folder. But I've
done this with lots of apps and no problem.  Any ideas of how to solve this?
Thanks.

 

Sandy  

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RE: The 2-finger double tap gesture

[Sandy Finley]

Rahul, I'd like to add one more thing to this good advice. I had this same
difficulty and ultimately realized I was tapping too high up on the screen.
I found I can consistently hang up from calls if I make a point of tapping
in the  lower half of the screen. HTH

Sandy

-Original Message-
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Of MamaPeach
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The 2-finger double tap gesture

The best advice is to relax. Keep your fingers relaxed, not stiff. Slightly
spread the two fingers apart, not a lot, just a little. It does not take but
a light two finger double tap to accept or to end a call. No force is needed
to perform this gesture.

-Original Message-
From: Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The 2-finger double tap gesture

Hi all,

I often find  it difficult to perform the 2-finger double tap gesture for
picking up or disconnecting calls.
It's hard to describe the problem, but I just struggle to generate the
force that is required to effectively perform this gesture in time.
As a result, when I take the phone away from my  ear to disconnect the call,
it automatically goes into speaker mode, and it usually takes me a good few
seconds to finally perform the gesture successfully.
Can I set up a custom gesture for receiving/disconnecting calls? Is there
any other way to fix this?

Best,
Rahul

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Kindle Downloads

[Sandy Finley]

I have Kindle books in my Amazon wish list. I get the following message:

"this mobile application does not currently support Kindle downloads.
However, you may add the item to your wish list and purchase it using the
browser on your device." This message seems cryptic to me. I am using the
browser on my device. I registered my phone with Kindle so what's the
problem? How do I download from here? Sorry if this is repeating a previous
question; I have looked at the Kindle messages and don't see it.

 

Sandy

 

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RE: Need help with drop box

[Sandy Finley]

Laurie, you need to install Drop Box on your computer if you want your
computer and phone to share files.  When I did it Drop Box virtually
installed itself. Just go to www.dropbox.com. Click on the link that says
"for personal use" or something like that and then click on on "sign up."
Drop Box put an icon on my desktop;; I chose to move it, but you can
leaveitright whereit is.   Also installed it on my computer at work.

To move files into Dropbox, just copy them to your clipboard and dump them
in. You can create folders.
Drop Box will send you some directions on how to do various things. I
created a folder for those files, put in a folder of recipes I have
collected,one for iPhone directions, etc. Have fun! 

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Of Lori Dent
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:58 PM
To: blind apples; viphone
Subject: Need help with drop box

Hi all,

I have drop box installed on my I phone five. But do I also need to download
and install drop box on my computer? And if so, how do I install dropbox on
my computer and where on my computer  do I  put the dropbox at?

Also I need step by step directions on how to put adocument from my Lions
folder on my computer into my dropbox on my I phone five? Any help would be
appreciated. I don't know anything about dropbox nor how to use drop box. 
Thanks.

Lori and the Gipper 

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RE: Path to find my music library on my hard drive

[Sandy Finley]

Kim, Windows 7.


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Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Path to find my music library on my hard drive

Sandy,

Are you running xp or windows 7?

Kimber

On 5/6/13, Sandy Finley  wrote:
> Can one of you iTunes experts on this list please send me the path to 
> the music library on my hard drive? It is the standard iTunes path. 
> Someone gave it to me months ago and I foolishly did not keep the 
> information. Thanks.
>
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Path to find my music library on my hard drive

[Sandy Finley]

Can one of you iTunes experts on this list please send me the path to the
music library on my hard drive? It is the standard iTunes path. Someone gave
it to me months ago and I foolishly did not keep the information. Thanks.

 

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RE: going to first/last element of screen with bt keyboard and vo Re: Blue Tooth Keyboard Commands

[Sandy Finley]

Anouk, I think reading this list in a language other than English would be
difficult for me; wow! I will try and explain this further; please don't
feel insulted if the description below seems to simple. Ii want to help.

Remember that the colums on the list are in this order:

 

1.   Action

2.   QuickNav on

3.   QuickNav off

4.   Equivalent Gesture

 

Let's use your example of move to First Element.

 

Column 1 is Action:  "move to first element

Column 2 says, "QuickNav on: control plus up arrow." This means that for
this to work you must have QuickNav on; remember that QuickNav toggles on
and off by typing left and right arrows together.

Column 3 says, "quickNav off, NA." This means that when Quicknav is turned
off this action is "not applicable"; in other words, it won't work.  

Column 4 says, "finger tap near top of screen" and as you said, that works
as well.

 

So remember that the command just below the Action itself is with QuickNav
on and one below it is with QuickNav off. 

 

 

Anouk, if this is still unclear let me know.  Is there a way we can talk
from country to country on iPhones? If so, and doing it together over the
phone would help, I'd be glad to try.

 

Sandy

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of anouk radix
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: going to first/last element of screen with bt keyboard and vo Re:
Blue Tooth Keyboard Commands

 

Hi Sandy,
I think i read this list but then in Dutch. The problem for me is that move
to first element/last element (ctrl up/down arrow without quicknav) does not
seem to work at all. Putting my finger near the beginning or end of the
screen does but i would like to be able to do this witht he keyboard.
Greetings, Anouk
Op 02/05/2013 11:56, Sandy Finley schreef:

Anouk, here is the list that I use attached  

Sandy

 

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RE: how to integrate gmail with phone/contacts on ios?

[Sandy Finley]

I just recently discovered this because I have an Exchange  e-mail account
on my phone for my work e-mail but, as you said, cannot get the exchange to
work with my Gmail address. Do you know what email clients support exchange?
Itmight be worth changing email addresses to have that convenience!


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Of David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to integrate gmail with phone/contacts on ios?

No, gmail is no longer supporting exchange with gmail accounts if you
haven't set it up already. Apple supports exchange. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 30/04/2013, at 12:10, Lu Ann Schmidt  wrote:

> I'm not so sure on this.  I just recently moved to a IPhone 5, and my
phone is sending and receiving my mail just fine.  We have an exchange
server set up here at home.  I didn't set it up myself, but in checking with
my hubby, he did it the usual way.  I would think Apple would lose a lot of
business because of so many workplaces that are using the IPhone.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Grant Hardy
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how to integrate gmail with phone/contacts on ios?
> 
> Correct. Not only that, but Microsoft Exchange is no longer supported for
new devices (i.e. if you've used Gmail via Exchange on your device before,
you can keep doing so but you can't set up new devices to use it). So for
all practical purposes, there's no Exchange support anymore.
> 
> So for synchronization of contacts, CardDav is really the only option.
> 
> On 4/24/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> When you add a Gmail account, you have the options for mail, calendar 
>> and notes. You don't have a contacts option. For that, you need 
>> either Exchange or CardDav, and CardDav is the way to go, as 
>> described in the article Raul points to below.
>> 
>> On 04/24/2013 09:39 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Hi, yes if you add a gmail account into your iPhone for mail, you 
>>> will have the option for calendars and contacts as well. However the 
>>> method I gave in my first message is specifically for contacts. I 
>>> didn't include calendars.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> I must say I'm glad I know sign language, It's pretty handy. - 
>>> Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>>> 
>>> On 4/24/2013 7:07 PM, anouk radix wrote:
 Thanks for that link. I will read that tomorrow and also go hunt 
 for that applevis podcast. So, can you also enter data in your 
 iphone agenda and it will be synced with your gemail account or 
 does it not work that way?
 Thanks
 Greetings Anouk,
 Op 24/04/2013 19:07, Cristóbal schreef:
> I have my Gmail contacts and calendar synchrnonized with my iPhone 
> and iPad.
> Try:
> http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/27/google-introduces-an-easier-way-t
> o
> -sync-gma
> 
> 
> il-contacts-to-your-iphone/
> They give a quick overview on how to do it. There are also other 
> Google support articles on how to do this. I believe too that 
> there was a podcast posted on Apple Vis covering this same topic.
> 
> The only thing I wish the iPhone would do is sort by the file as 
> option that is offered in Gmail and Outlook, but alas... if there 
> is in facta  way to do this, I'd sure like to know.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of anouk radix
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: how to integrate gmail with phone/contacts on ios?
> 
> phHello,
> I would like to use my gmail address book to keep everything 
> central (for example if i need to use a pc that i can see all my 
> contacts that i have on my idevice etc). Is it possible to set the 
> phone/contacts/agenda ios apps in such a way that entries you make 
> there will immediately be put in the gmail address book and also 
> the other way around?
> Thanks in advance for any info,
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
 
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RE: Talking Goggles

[Sandy Finley]

Eileen and Lois, let me be sure I am clear.   I should first start trying to
use the app with the following settings:

 

Double tap the top left button so the flash is off; this means that when I
run my finger over the button VO reads, "flash off."

 

Re the bottom right button: when I run my finger over it it should say
"video camera."

 

 

I should tap the "flash off" button to turn the flash on only if I am not
getting any results and I suspect the reason is insufficient lighting. Is
this correct?

 

Sandy

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Goggles

 

Hi Sandy,

 

The way you described the location what is on the iPhone screen indicates
that you are in video mode. The "flash It" button will toggle on/off the
apps flash on the camera. There are times that I need additional light. The
amount of distance, that one needs from the object will vary depending on
the size of the object that you want Talking Goggles to read. For example,
when using the app with my computer screen, I was about 2-3 inches away.
Also, I treaT Talking Goggles as an OCR app in regards of keeping the iPhone
levvel and centering it over the object that I want it to read. I believe
that good lighting is essential, so there is less of a chance of the app
crashing. HTH.





Best,

Eileen


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 22, 2013, at 7:56 AM, "Lois Butterfield" 
wrote:

I believe you should here flash off.  That would mean your flash is on.
Give that a try.  Hopefully, that is the problem.  In other words, just tap
the button that says flash.

 

Good luck,

Lois

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:52 AM
To: 'VIAPHONE'
Subject: Talking Goggles

 

I am working with this app and not getting any results.  I have the
following settings:

 

Flash Button:  When I touch (but not tap) the top left button VO says
"Flash." It is my understanding that this means the flash is on.

 

Camera Copy 1 Button:  When I touch (but not tap) it VO says, "stop." This
leads me to believe that some kind of  photo action is going on? I don't
know what to call it since it's not really taking a picture; there is no
sound of a clicking shutter. 

 

Button at bottom right: if I touch (but not tap) it VO says, "still camera,"
which leads me to believe that the video Camera is activated and tapping it
will change it to Still Camera. Is that correct?

 

The only time I hear a shutter clicking is when I toggle the bottom right
button to "still camera, which converts the middle button from "stop" to
"take picture." But it's my understanding that to get the app to ID things a
photo is not necessary.   What am I either misunderstanding or doing wrong?

 

also, what is the purpose of the "record" option? What would I want to
record?

 

Sandy

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RE: Talking Goggles

[Sandy Finley]

Fred,  I believe that I do have it set for video.  As I indicate below, when
I touch (but not tap) the bottom right button, I hear VO say "still camera."
This leads me to believe I do  have it on video.  The other reason I believe
this is because when I tap that button to toggle to Still Camera, the middle
button changes from "stop" to "Camera Copy 14" which, based on Sieghard's
excellent documentation suggestion, I have re-labeled to "take picture." It
seems logical to me that one is going to take a picture with a still camera
and not with a constant video setting.  If my reasoning is faulty someone
needs to let me know.

 

Sandy

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Goggles

 

You need to set it for video, and although I can't tell you how, it's right
there.

 

Fred Olver

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sandy Finley <mailto:finleykn...@gmail.com>  

To: 'VIAPHONE' <mailto:VIPHONE@GOOGLEGROUPS.COM>  

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:52 AM

Subject: Talking Goggles

 

I am working with this app and not getting any results.  I have the
following settings:

 

Flash Button:  When I touch (but not tap) the top left button VO says
"Flash." It is my understanding that this means the flash is on.

 

Camera Copy 1 Button:  When I touch (but not tap) it VO says, "stop." This
leads me to believe that some kind of  photo action is going on? I don't
know what to call it since it's not really taking a picture; there is no
sound of a clicking shutter. 

 

Button at bottom right: if I touch (but not tap) it VO says, "still camera,"
which leads me to believe that the video Camera is activated and tapping it
will change it to Still Camera. Is that correct?

 

The only time I hear a shutter clicking is when I toggle the bottom right
button to "still camera, which converts the middle button from "stop" to
"take picture." But it's my understanding that to get the app to ID things a
photo is not necessary.   What am I either misunderstanding or doing wrong?

 

also, what is the purpose of the "record" option? What would I want to
record?

 

Sandy

No virus found in this message.
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Talking Goggles

[Sandy Finley]

I am working with this app and not getting any results.  I have the
following settings:

 

Flash Button:  When I touch (but not tap) the top left button VO says
"Flash." It is my understanding that this means the flash is on.

 

Camera Copy 1 Button:  When I touch (but not tap) it VO says, "stop." This
leads me to believe that some kind of  photo action is going on? I don't
know what to call it since it's not really taking a picture; there is no
sound of a clicking shutter. 

 

Button at bottom right: if I touch (but not tap) it VO says, "still camera,"
which leads me to believe that the video Camera is activated and tapping it
will change it to Still Camera. Is that correct?

 

The only time I hear a shutter clicking is when I toggle the bottom right
button to "still camera, which converts the middle button from "stop" to
"take picture." But it's my understanding that to get the app to ID things a
photo is not necessary.   What am I either misunderstanding or doing wrong?

 

also, what is the purpose of the "record" option? What would I want to
record?

 

Sandy

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Re: Discrepancy between iTunes Match and iPod

[Sandy Finley]

David, This never occurred to either of us because I mee shuffle as something 
that is chosen each time one selects an album. I do not see a button that puts 
shuffle on as default. I tried to fiqd it after reading your message but I am 
missing it.  Sandy

Sandy Finley

On 06/04/2013, at 6:13 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

It sounds like shuffle is active on his iPod. Find and double-tap shuffle to 
change its status.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 07/04/2013, at 9:46, "Sandy Finley"  wrote:

> My iPhone and my husband’s iPod have access to the same music library. 
> Recently he began complaining that his iPod does not play songs on an album 
> in order.  I was suspicious of this claim, but he’s right.  I tested three 
> albums I know well.  First I selected “artists,” located a particular artist 
> and then selected an album.  I listened to the first three songs, all of 
> which were played in order.
> Then I  tried the same system on the iPod. First I tried it with the device 
> set to show me only downloaded music. The songs played out of order. Then I 
> deleted all of those albums from his device and changed the setting so that 
> the iPod would see the music on iTunes Match. I thought that surely when I 
> did this they’d be in order, since my phone was playing from the same iTunes 
> a Match account as is the iPod. But nope!  
> The weird thing is  on his iPod the songs are shown in order; they just don’t 
> play in order.  In short, it’s a mystery. Any ideas of how to problem solve 
> this one? BTW, I know they are synchronized to the same account; I purchased 
> a couple of albums this week while we were not even in the same town and they 
> were immediately available to him.
>  
> Sandy
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Discrepancy between iTunes Match and iPod

[Sandy Finley]

My iPhone and my husband's iPod have access to the same music library.
Recently he began complaining that his iPod does not play songs on an album
in order.  I was suspicious of this claim, but he's right.  I tested three
albums I know well.  First I selected "artists," located a particular artist
and then selected an album.  I listened to the first three songs, all of
which were played in order.

Then I  tried the same system on the iPod. First I tried it with the device
set to show me only downloaded music. The songs played out of order. Then I
deleted all of those albums from his device and changed the setting so that
the iPod would see the music on iTunes Match. I thought that surely when I
did this they'd be in order, since my phone was playing from the same iTunes
a Match account as is the iPod. But nope!  

The weird thing is  on his iPod the songs are shown in order; they just
don't play in order.  In short, it's a mystery. Any ideas of how to problem
solve this one? BTW, I know they are synchronized to the same account; I
purchased a couple of albums this week while we were not even in the same
town and they were immediately available to him. 

 

Sandy

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Re: Braille Touch and texting

[Sandy Finley]

Richard, thanks for pointing out. I rarely do e-mail on phone; will be more 
careful.

Sandy Finley

On 02/04/2013, at 1:08 PM, "Richard Turner"  wrote:

Sandy,
Your last couple of messages had your response at the end after all the
replies.  You may want to make sure the cursor is at the start of the
message.
Glad the texting is now working.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Touch and texting



Sandy Finley

On 02/04/2013, at 8:09 AM, BrailleTouch  wrote:

Hi Sandy,

I think Rob is correct that is has something to do with iMessage as opposed
to SMS messages. I looked in the iPhone settings under Messages and there is
a switch for "Send as SMS". It says "Send as SMS when iMessage is
unavailable." You may want to check and make sure you have this turned on.
You could also try to text your husband on his Android phone without using
BrailleTouch and see if that works.

BrailleTouch uses the same Apple-provided messages screen as Fleksy and
other apps. I do not recall seeing a developer option to control whether it
uses iMessage or SMS, but I'll check again. My assumption is that this Apple
messaging screen follows your iPhone messaging settings, so hopefully the
above suggestion will work for you.

I hope this helps.
Best,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/


On 4/2/2013 6:29 AM, RobH! wrote:
> There must be an option, though not seen it,  but distinguishing between
an
> iMessage recipient, and  ordinary sms message.  Worth checking contacts
that
> ahve iPhone say iPhone in the contact, or say Mobile which covers the
rest.
> Maybe that's theo nly way to force it.  I'd like to see more on this
aspect
> too, please.
> 
> I'll go fiddle with it in a minute or few.
> 
> Rh.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sandy Finley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:15 AM
> Subject: RE: Braille Touch and texting
> 
> 
> Caleb, Richard and others,
> 
> I think Richard may have helped uncover something.  Using Braille Touch, I
> texted myself and I got the message and I obviously have an iPhone.
> I then tried to text my husband, whom I text for often than anyone else,
> who has a droid and message failed. And yes, I am able to text him without
> BT with no difficulty.
> I then texted an iPhone-owning  good friend (one I know is up and about at
> this early hour) and he got it.
> 
> I can type a message and put it in the clipboard, go to Messaging and
> address the usual way and paste from the clipboard, but I'd like to cut
out
> those steps. Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of BrailleTouch
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 8:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille Touch and texting
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> I'm sorry you are having trouble texting with BrailleTouch. It sounds like
> you are doing everything correctly. Please try sending a message to the
same
> person directly from the phone number in your iPhone address book without
> using BrailleTouch. If that works, please try closing BrailleTouch from
the
> app switcher and restarting, or try restarting your iPhone.
> 
> I hope this helps. Please feel free to email me directly if it still
doesn't
> work for you.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Caleb
> http://brailletouchapp.com/
> 
> 
> On 4/1/2013 8:37 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:
>> I still cannot text with Braille Touch. here is what I do:
>> 1. Type the message.
>> 2. Flick left and find the text message option. I double tap it and land
> in my contacts.
>> 3. I navigate to the recipient's info; I find the mobile number and
double
> tap. It seems that the number is in the correct place so I tap send.No
dice.
> I go to  messaging and get an indication of "message failure" but the
> failure message has the recipient's name in it! What am I doing wrong?
>> Sandy
>> 
>> 
>> Typed with BrailleTouch
>> 
>> 
>> Sandy Finley
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Re: Braille Touch and texting

[Sandy Finley]

Sandy Finley

On 02/04/2013, at 8:09 AM, BrailleTouch  wrote:

Hi Sandy,

I think Rob is correct that is has something to do with iMessage as opposed to 
SMS messages. I looked in the iPhone settings under Messages and there is a 
switch for "Send as SMS". It says "Send as SMS when iMessage is unavailable." 
You may want to check and make sure you have this turned on. You could also try 
to text your husband on his Android phone without using BrailleTouch and see if 
that works.

BrailleTouch uses the same Apple-provided messages screen as Fleksy and other 
apps. I do not recall seeing a developer option to control whether it uses 
iMessage or SMS, but I'll check again. My assumption is that this Apple 
messaging screen follows your iPhone messaging settings, so hopefully the above 
suggestion will work for you.

I hope this helps.
Best,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/


On 4/2/2013 6:29 AM, RobH! wrote:
> There must be an option, though not seen it,  but distinguishing between an
> iMessage recipient, and  ordinary sms message.  Worth checking contacts that
> ahve iPhone say iPhone in the contact, or say Mobile which covers the rest.
> Maybe that's theo nly way to force it.  I'd like to see more on this aspect
> too, please.
> 
> I'll go fiddle with it in a minute or few.
> 
> Rh.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sandy Finley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:15 AM
> Subject: RE: Braille Touch and texting
> 
> 
> Caleb, Richard and others,
> 
> I think Richard may have helped uncover something.  Using Braille Touch, I
> texted myself and I got the message and I obviously have an iPhone.
> I then tried to text my husband, whom I text for often than anyone else,
> who has a droid and message failed. And yes, I am able to text him without
> BT with no difficulty.
> I then texted an iPhone-owning  good friend (one I know is up and about at
> this early hour) and he got it.
> 
> I can type a message and put it in the clipboard, go to Messaging and
> address the usual way and paste from the clipboard, but I'd like to cut out
> those steps. Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of BrailleTouch
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 8:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille Touch and texting
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> I'm sorry you are having trouble texting with BrailleTouch. It sounds like
> you are doing everything correctly. Please try sending a message to the same
> person directly from the phone number in your iPhone address book without
> using BrailleTouch. If that works, please try closing BrailleTouch from the
> app switcher and restarting, or try restarting your iPhone.
> 
> I hope this helps. Please feel free to email me directly if it still doesn't
> work for you.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Caleb
> http://brailletouchapp.com/
> 
> 
> On 4/1/2013 8:37 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:
>> I still cannot text with Braille Touch. here is what I do:
>> 1. Type the message.
>> 2. Flick left and find the text message option. I double tap it and land
> in my contacts.
>> 3. I navigate to the recipient's info; I find the mobile number and double
> tap. It seems that the number is in the correct place so I tap send.No dice.
> I go to  messaging and get an indication of "message failure" but the
> failure message has the recipient's name in it! What am I doing wrong?
>> Sandy
>> 
>> 
>> Typed with BrailleTouch
>> 
>> 
>> Sandy Finley
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