RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi lenron, 
I am just wondering if both the reps said what they said about the speakers, 
because they probably don't use voice over, but they both claim they listen to 
Apple music.  I think it just goes to show a lot of those Apple reps really 
don't know enough about voice over!  I probably should search online how to 
clean the front ear speaker, because the rep at the Apple store didn't do 
anything to it, and maybe that should be cleaned as well.  If the bottom 
speaker can get dust in it, I would think the front ear speaker could also get 
dust in it!  The Apple store rep said it probably got dusty from putting it in 
my purse and removing it, and after a year, I guess it can happen, but if it 
happened to the bottom speaker, it can happen to the front speaker!  
Janet 
Janet 

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lenron brown
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:40 PM
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They lied both speakers on the phone allow you to here audio from
music. Good grief what is up with some of these employees these days.

On 11/10/19, Dave  wrote:
> Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
> actually know, regarding the products they sell.
>
> But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Dave,
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
> told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
> hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
> why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
> playing music, but I will now do it.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Wayne, 
Thank you for this.  I did cover the bottom left speaker, and I still hear 
music from the top speaker, but when I cover the top speaker, I still hear from 
it, so I guess that's ok!  
Janet  

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Wayne Merritt
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

There should be 2 speakers on the XR, one at the bottom of the phone
near the charging port, and one at the top of the phone near the
handset/speaker. I know you know that the one where you hold the phone
near your ear, but this also acts as an external speaker. You can test
it by completely covering the bottom speaker when music or other audio
is playing, and see if you still hear the audio. On my XR the bottom
speaker is more powerful, but I still get quite a bit of sound from
the other speaker when I cover the bottom one.

Hth,
Wayne

On 11/10/19, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Dave, 
I don't find any speaker button when listening to Apple music.  
Janet 

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Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

It may depend, on how you have your audio routed.

Try looking for the speaker button, when you are playing some music, and see 
how it sounds.

Dave.


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From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi lenron,
I am just wondering if both the reps said what they said about the speakers, 
because they probably don't use voice over, but they both claim they listen 
to Apple music.  I think it just goes to show a lot of those Apple reps 
really don't know enough about voice over!  I probably should search online 
how to clean the front ear speaker, because the rep at the Apple store 
didn't do anything to it, and maybe that should be cleaned as well.  If the 
bottom speaker can get dust in it, I would think the front ear speaker could 
also get dust in it!  The Apple store rep said it probably got dusty from 
putting it in my purse and removing it, and after a year, I guess it can 
happen, but if it happened to the bottom speaker, it can happen to the front 
speaker!
Janet
Janet

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of lenron brown
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

They lied both speakers on the phone allow you to here audio from
music. Good grief what is up with some of these employees these days.

On 11/10/19, Dave  wrote:
> Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
> actually know, regarding the products they sell.
>
> But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Dave,
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
> told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
> hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
> why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
> playing music, but I will now do it.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could 
> not
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr 
> phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
>
>
>
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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Dave, 
Yes, I agree with you when you say that shouldn't be the case, but what other 
reason why they would say that top front speaker is only for when talking on 
the phone.   

Janet 
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Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

That shouldn't be the case. As the speakers are the same for sighted users 
too, if they wish to listen to music in stereo, on their phone, without a 
headset.

Dave.


-Original Message----- 
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
Oh yeah, I know what you mean about how much the reps know about the 
products they sell.  Although, I have to admit I am quite surprised 
especially both reps had xr phones the same as I do.  Matter of fact, the 
Apple rep at the store yesterday, didn't even check the ear piece speaker! 
I'm just wondering if it is because maybe they aren't using voice over, so 
they just really don't know voice over and other come through the front ear 
speaker.  Well, I finally turned on my phone, and listened to voice over and 
some music, and low in behold, I did hear voice over and the music I was 
playing coming from the bottom of the phone, as well as from the front ear 
speaker on the top of the phone, so now, I know for myself!  I can't believe 
I never thought of something this simple!  LOL!  I'm losing it!
Thank you Thank you!

Janet

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
actually know, regarding the products they sell.

But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
playing music, but I will now do it.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not
achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Dave, 
Wow, I can't tell you enough just how dumb I feel right now!  Smile!  I wonder 
where my head is sometimes!  LOL!  Ok, I just felt the mic and the lightening 
port.  This might explain why sometimes I am talking on the phone, and some 
people keep saying Janet, I can't hardly hear you, and this might be because my 
little finger is too close to the mic!  Thank you so much for your help and 
understanding.  It is greatly appreciated as always!  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

The Mic, is the microphone, which you use for speaking into, when you make a 
phone call, or making recordings.

The lightning port, is between the microphone, and the bottom speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message----- 
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Anna,
Ok when you say a speaker and mic on the bottom and front of the phone, do 
you mean a speaker and a mic between the charging port? What is the mic for? 
On my xr phone, I don't have anything on the bottom in the front of the 
phone, only between the charging port at the edge of the bottom of the 
phone.
Janet

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:30 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet and all,

If the 10R is like earlier phones, there's a speaker and a mic on the bottom 
in front. I think it's that speaker and the earpiece speaker that produce 
stereo sound.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:27 PM, janet gross  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department 
> told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with 
> hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know 
> why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when 
> playing music, but I will now do it.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could 
> not
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr 
> phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
>
>
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Happy Thanksgiving!

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone, 
I would just like to wish those who celebrate Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving, 
and a safe one!  
For those who don't celebrate Thanksgiving, I also wish a wonderful day for you 
all, as well!  
Remember, no drinking and driving!  LOL!  
  
Janet 
Peace Be With You. 



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Outlook For iOS Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone, 
Can someone please tell me how I can let a sighted friend look at a particular 
email on my Xr iPhone? I use Outlook for iOS, and I want a sighted person to 
see an email, but when I show my friend the Outlook inbox, they see only maybe 
about 5 or 6 emails, in which is not the particular email I want to show them.  
Although, VO reads me the particular email and many more.  I've looked in the 
Outlook for iOS app on my phone, and I don't see anything that would be related 
to my issue, and I've also looked in settings, as well as in the display 
option, but again, I can't seem to find anyway to have Outlook to show all 
messages.  
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.  
Janet 



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Another Outlook For iOS Question Pleas.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone, 
Since a few updates ago for Outlook iOS I've noticed when I flick up I hear 
snooze as an option.  Does anyone know what this might mean? I know what the 
word snooze means, but I don't know why this is showing as an option in Outlook 
for iOS.  
Janet


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RE: iPhone latest update

[janet gross]

HI All, 
Yes, I just downloaded iOS 12.4.4 to my iPhone 6.  I have to admit though, I 
was quite surprised to see this update.  
Janet  

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Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:13 PM
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As I wrote in another message, it is up to 12.4.4 now. It downloaded itself to 
my phone earlier today, even though I have automatic updates turned off. I will 
install it later today. Go into settings, general, software updates, and have 
it check, it should find it. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Dec 24, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I'm wondering the same thing.  I would want my phone to be updated to
12.44 if at all possible.

> On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12
> updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I
> absolutely do not want to do?
> 
> 
>> On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today,
>> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6
>> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13.
>> 
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RE: iPhone latest update

[janet gross]

HI Joshua, 
I don't think you will get any iOS 12 updates unless you're on an iPhone 6 or 
less.  I did download  iOS 12.4.4, but that was for my iPhone 6, but I didn't 
see that update on my xr iPhone though.  I still haven't downloaded iOS 13 as 
of yet either.  
Janet 

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I'm wondering the same thing.  I would want my phone to be updated to
12.44 if at all possible.

On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12
> updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I
> absolutely do not want to do?
>
>
> On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today,
>> to 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6
>> would update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13.
>>
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RE: iPhone latest update

[janet gross]

HI Steve, 
I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 updates. 
 Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind being wrong 
now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either.  I just downloaded the iOS 
12.4.4, but that was on my iPhone 6, and I don't see that particular update on 
my xr iPhone though.  
Janet   
  
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Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone latest update

Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12 
updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I 
absolutely do not want to do?


On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to 
> 12.4.4. It took a while to get straightened out, but if this iPhone 6 would 
> update to it, I would have long since updated it to 13.
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Merry Christmas!

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone, 
I would just like to take this time to wish all of you who celebrate Christmas, 
a Merry Christmas!  To those who might not be celebrating Christmas now, I also 
wish you all a wonderful day as well!  
Janet 

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Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi All, 
I accidentally downloaded the wrong app last night, as I was trying to download 
the voice dream Reader app.  Can someone please tell me how I can cancel this 
download-subscription? I went in to the app Store app, the update tab, my 
account, I tapped my account, and went down to manage subscriptions, as I 
usually did when I wanted to cancel a subscription, but now, I don't find the 
option to manage subscriptions, and if I tap on my Apple id, I get a message 
saying I need to enter my password.  So, I tried to enter it a few times, I 
then got a message saying wrong password. So after trying to enter the 
password, now, I get a message asking me if I want to reset my password.  I 
really don't want to go through all that just to cancel a subscription, but I 
have only until Dec 29-19, or I will have to pay 139.99.   
I'm using iPhone xr with iOS 12.4.1. 

Thank you all for any help in this.  
Janet 

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RE: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard, 
Yes, I finally did get this mess resolved.  I googled steps how to manage my 
subscriptions for my phone, as I just couldn't remember how to do this, as it 
has been quite some time since I've done this.  I got the same instructions 
from the Apple web site, and I finally remembered oh yes, this is how I did 
this before.  I followed the instructions to see if that 139.99 app was in my 
subscriptions, but I didn't see it there at all, in which I was relieved, but 
still a little concerned.  I then called Apple Accessibility to ask them if 
there was another way I might check my subscriptions just to be for sure I was 
doing it right, and the Apple rep gave me the exact same instructions that I 
already got from their web site, so because I didn't see the app in the 
subscriptions, I deleted the 139.99 app off my phone!  LOL!  So, I am hoping 
all is well, meaning I won't be charged 139.99 for that app.  The name of the 
app as far as I could tell was Speech a fi, an app is text to speech app, that 
is all I know about that app though, and hope to never see it again!  LOL!  I 
also finally purchased the Voice Dream Reader app, as well as the Voice Dream 
Scanner, although, I just haven't had the time yet to play around with either 
apps.  I will also copy and paste in a separate email the instructions to check 
or manage subscriptions, just in case someone else might need them, or maybe 
just to keep them on hand, in case they run in to a problem like I did!  Smile! 
  
Thank you for your interest. 

Janet 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

Janet,
Did you get this resolved?
Have you call Apple Accessibility?

I am also curious as to what app this was that is going to charge you so much.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 10:21 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

Hi All, 
I accidentally downloaded the wrong app last night, as I was trying to download 
the voice dream Reader app.  Can someone please tell me how I can cancel this 
download-subscription? I went in to the app Store app, the update tab, my 
account, I tapped my account, and went down to manage subscriptions, as I 
usually did when I wanted to cancel a subscription, but now, I don't find the 
option to manage subscriptions, and if I tap on my Apple id, I get a message 
saying I need to enter my password.  So, I tried to enter it a few times, I 
then got a message saying wrong password. So after trying to enter the 
password, now, I get a message asking me if I want to reset my password.  I 
really don't want to go through all that just to cancel a subscription, but I 
have only until Dec 29-19, or I will have to pay 139.99.   
I'm using iPhone xr with iOS 12.4.1. 

Thank you all for any help in this.  
Janet 

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Managing Subscriptions Instructions.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone, 
I copied and pasted below some instructions to manage the subscriptions on ones 
iPhone or iPad.  Please keep in mind, I can't assure you if this will work for 
you or not, but I hope it does.  I am currently using a Xr iPhone with iOS 
12.4.1, so I don't know if this might make a difference or not.  Maybe someone 
just wants to keep this on hand for future purposes.  
Janet 

How to change or cancel subscriptions on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch
1. Open the Settings app. 
2. Tap your name, then tap Subscriptions.* 
3. Tap the subscription that you want to manage. 
Don't see the subscription that you're looking for?
4. Choose a different subscription option, or tap Cancel Subscription. If you 
don't see Cancel Subscription, the subscription is already canceled and won't
renew.
*If you don't see "Subscriptions" in the Settings app, tap "iTunes & App Store" 
instead. Tap your Apple ID (which is usually your email address), then
tap View Apple ID. Sign in, scroll down to Subscriptions, then tap 
Subscriptions. 


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RE: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Richard,
Thank you!  Thank you!  Maybe I can now rest a little better!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

In looking at the Speechify app, it has in-app purchases, which can be done as 
a monthly, yearly, at various price points.
It must have a free trial period, so deleting it is your best option to avoid 
such a expensive app that a VoiceOver user certainly wouldn't need.
So you should be fine.



Richard
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On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:06 PM, janet gross  wrote:
Hi Richard,
Yes, I finally did get this mess resolved.  I googled steps how to manage my 
subscriptions for my phone, as I just couldn't remember how to do this, as it 
has been quite some time since I've done this.  I got the same instructions 
from the Apple web site, and I finally remembered oh yes, this is how I did 
this before.  I followed the instructions to see if that 139.99 app was in my 
subscriptions, but I didn't see it there at all, in which I was relieved, but 
still a little concerned.  I then called Apple Accessibility to ask them if 
there was another way I might check my subscriptions just to be for sure I was 
doing it right, and the Apple rep gave me the exact same instructions that I 
already got from their web site, so because I didn't see the app in the 
subscriptions, I deleted the 139.99 app off my phone!  LOL!  So, I am hoping 
all is well, meaning I won't be charged 139.99 for that app.  The name of the 
app as far as I could tell was Speech a fi, an app is text to speech app, that 
is all I know about that app though, and hope to never see it again!  LOL!  I 
also finally purchased the Voice Dream Reader app, as well as the Voice Dream 
Scanner, although, I just haven't had the time yet to play around with either 
apps.  I will also copy and paste in a separate email the instructions to check 
or manage subscriptions, just in case someone else might need them, or maybe 
just to keep them on hand, in case they run in to a problem like I did!  Smile!
Thank you for your interest.

Janet
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

Janet,
Did you get this resolved?
Have you call Apple Accessibility?

I am also curious as to what app this was that is going to charge you so much.



Richard

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Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 10:21 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

Hi All,
I accidentally downloaded the wrong app last night, as I was trying to download 
the voice dream Reader app.  Can someone please tell me how I can cancel this 
download-subscription? I went in to the app Store app, the update tab, my 
account, I tapped my account, and went down to manage subscriptions, as I 
usually did when I wanted to cancel a subscription, but now, I don't find the 
option to manage subscriptions, and if I tap on my Apple id, I get a message 
saying I need to enter my password.  So, I tried to enter it a few times, I 
then got a message saying wrong password. So after trying to enter the 
password, now, I get a message asking me if I want to reset my password.  I 
really don't want to go through all that just to cancel a subscription, but I 
have only until Dec 29-19, or I will have to pay 139.99.
I'm using iPhone xr with iOS 12.4.1.

Thank you all for any help in this.
Janet

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RE: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

HI Anne, 
I accidentally downloaded that 139.99 app, in which I was trying to download 
the Voice Dream apps.  The Voice Dream App Reader, as well as the Voice Dream 
Scanner is on sale until tonight at 11:59 PM, or at least in the US, as far as 
I know.  From what I heard it is a great app, and all my blind friends have it, 
and love it!  These Voice Dream apps get wonderful reviews from other blind 
people, as well as from sighted people.  I purchased the Voice Dream Reader for 
6.99, and the Voice Dream Scanner for 2.90.  I would suggest if you are 
interested in the Voice Dream Apps, I would definitely try to get one or two of 
them as long as they are on sale.  
I wish you lots of luck!  

Janet   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne West
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

An app costing $139.99? What on earth is that app? You would hear me scream if 
I had that on my iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 17:07
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

Hi Richard, 
Yes, I finally did get this mess resolved.  I googled steps how to manage my 
subscriptions for my phone, as I just couldn't remember how to do this, as it 
has been quite some time since I've done this.  I got the same instructions 
from the Apple web site, and I finally remembered oh yes, this is how I did 
this before.  I followed the instructions to see if that 139.99 app was in my 
subscriptions, but I didn't see it there at all, in which I was relieved, but 
still a little concerned.  I then called Apple Accessibility to ask them if 
there was another way I might check my subscriptions just to be for sure I was 
doing it right, and the Apple rep gave me the exact same instructions that I 
already got from their web site, so because I didn't see the app in the 
subscriptions, I deleted the 139.99 app off my phone!  LOL!  So, I am hoping 
all is well, meaning I won't be charged 139.99 for that app.  The name of the 
app as far as I could tell was Speech a fi, an app is text to speech app, that 
is all I know about that app though, and hope to never see it again!  LOL!  I 
also finally purchased the Voice Dream Reader app, as well as the Voice Dream 
Scanner, although, I just haven't had the time yet to play around with either 
apps.  I will also copy and paste in a separate email the instructions to check 
or manage subscriptions, just in case someone else might need them, or maybe 
just to keep them on hand, in case they run in to a problem like I did!  Smile! 
  
Thank you for your interest. 

Janet 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

Janet,
Did you get this resolved?
Have you call Apple Accessibility?

I am also curious as to what app this was that is going to charge you so much.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 10:21 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Managing Subscriptions on iPhone Question Please.

Hi All, 
I accidentally downloaded the wrong app last night, as I was trying to download 
the voice dream Reader app.  Can someone please tell me how I can cancel this 
download-subscription? I went in to the app Store app, the update tab, my 
account, I tapped my account, and went down to manage subscriptions, as I 
usually did when I wanted to cancel a subscription, but now, I don't find the 
option to manage subscriptions, and if I tap on my Apple id, I get a message 
saying I need to enter my password.  So, I tried to enter it a few times, I 
then got a message saying wrong password. So after trying to enter the 
password, now, I get a message asking me if I want to reset my password.  I 
really don't want to go through all that just to cancel a subscription, but I 
have only until Dec 29-19, or I will have to pay 139.99.   
I'm using iPhone xr with iOS 12.4.1. 

Thank you all for any help in this.  
Janet 

Peace Be With You. 



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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Hi All,
This might sound a little silly, but what is the purpose of a smart door lock?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks

Then you either type in the code if you are able or can do so with the help of 
Aira or Be My Eyes or you use a key.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Out of curiosity what happens if there is a power outage?
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: smart locks

We also have a Schlage lock. I am just waiting for better availability of the 
latest model here in Canada which is compatible with whatever Apple calls that 
new key technology. I think it's called the Encode Plus or something like that. 
I believe that one also has Matter support.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Juan, I just installed the Schlage home smart locks. And they're pretty 
accessible on iOS. However, the locks themselves are physical touch screens for 
the keypad. That's why I have to use my smart phone. But I do come with a 
physical key that you can use to unlock them.
Joseph Hudson

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mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> 
mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

I hope this email finds you all well.

I wanted to know if any of you have installed smart locks in homes and what did 
you use?

I am looking for something accessible, with a physical keypad possible, or 
something accessible for entry.


Thanks in advance.

Juan

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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Hi Joseph,
This does sound great, as I had no idea about smart locks.  I would be 
interested in buying one of these.  But, my next question is how far do you 
have to be away.  For example, I am at the store, and the store is 10 miles 
away, how could I let you in my door? I'm thinking of the distance before I 
could let someone in my door using the app on my phone.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Janet, the purpose of smart door locks are, let's just say, do you want to 
send somebody to your house, to pick up something for you. But you're not home. 
You could either unlock it for them, or you can give them a virtual key that 
you could later just dispose of or, let's say you left your house and 
accidentally forgot to lock your doors. You could launch that app, and lock 
your doors directly from the app.


On May 25, 2023, at 10:44 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi All,
This might sound a little silly, but what is the purpose of a smart door lock?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Then you either type in the code if you are able or can do so with the help of 
Aira or Be My Eyes or you use a key.

From: 
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 On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Out of curiosity what happens if there is a power outage?
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: smart locks

We also have a Schlage lock. I am just waiting for better availability of the 
latest model here in Canada which is compatible with whatever Apple calls that 
new key technology. I think it's called the Encode Plus or something like that. 
I believe that one also has Matter support.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Juan, I just installed the Schlage home smart locks. And they're pretty 
accessible on iOS. However, the locks themselves are physical touch screens for 
the keypad. That's why I have to use my smart phone. But I do come with a 
physical key that you can use to unlock them.
Joseph Hudson

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mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

I hope this email finds you all well.

I wanted to know if any of you have installed smart locks in homes and what did 
you use?

I am looking for something accessible, with a physical keypad possible, or 
something accessible for entry.


Thanks in advance.

Juan

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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Hi All,
If the power was to go out, couldn't one use cellular data on their phone?

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Yes, you can communicate with it with your phone. They also support Apple 
HomeKit. Which means you would have to scan the code on the device itself. And 
also somebody had asked what are you do if the power goes out, well, there is 
where the physical keys would come in handy


On May 25, 2023, at 8:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And I believe if you have something like that latest Schlage Matter enabled 
lock it may communicate with your phone or watch directly, but I am not 100% 
sure.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Out of curiosity what happens if there is a power outage?
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: smart locks

We also have a Schlage lock. I am just waiting for better availability of the 
latest model here in Canada which is compatible with whatever Apple calls that 
new key technology. I think it's called the Encode Plus or something like that. 
I believe that one also has Matter support.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Juan, I just installed the Schlage home smart locks. And they're pretty 
accessible on iOS. However, the locks themselves are physical touch screens for 
the keypad. That's why I have to use my smart phone. But I do come with a 
physical key that you can use to unlock them.
Joseph Hudson

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mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

I hope this email finds you all well.

I wanted to know if any of you have installed smart locks in homes and what did 
you use?

I am looking for something accessible, with a physical keypad possible, or 
something accessible for entry.


Thanks in advance.

Juan

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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Joseph,
This sounds very interesting!  I wonder if they sell something that goes over a 
Deadbolt, as that is what I currently have on both my doors? I also wonder if 
this could be pared with a video ring doorbell.

Thank you.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Well, Janet, you would have two options. You can go onto the app and set them 
up with their own code, and make a tap in the code to get in that way, or you 
can open the app no matter wherever you're at and you can tap on the lock image 
and it will unlock the door.


On May 31, 2023, at 8:43 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Joseph,
This does sound great, as I had no idea about smart locks.  I would be 
interested in buying one of these.  But, my next question is how far do you 
have to be away.  For example, I am at the store, and the store is 10 miles 
away, how could I let you in my door? I'm thinking of the distance before I 
could let someone in my door using the app on my phone.

Janet

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Janet, the purpose of smart door locks are, let's just say, do you want to 
send somebody to your house, to pick up something for you. But you're not home. 
You could either unlock it for them, or you can give them a virtual key that 
you could later just dispose of or, let's say you left your house and 
accidentally forgot to lock your doors. You could launch that app, and lock 
your doors directly from the app.



On May 25, 2023, at 10:44 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi All,
This might sound a little silly, but what is the purpose of a smart door lock?

Janet

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Then you either type in the code if you are able or can do so with the help of 
Aira or Be My Eyes or you use a key.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Out of curiosity what happens if there is a power outage?
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: smart locks

We also have a Schlage lock. I am just waiting for better availability of the 
latest model here in Canada which is compatible with whatever Apple calls that 
new key technology. I think it's called the Encode Plus or something like that. 
I believe that one also has Matter support.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Juan, I just installed the Schlage home smart locks. And they're pretty 
accessible on iOS. However, the locks themselves are physical touch screens for 
the keypad. That's why I have to use my smart phone. But I do come with a 
physical key that you can use to unlock them.
Joseph Hudson

EmailFaceTime/iMessage
jhud7...@twc.com<mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>
Connect with me on zoom

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On May 24, 2023, at 9:34 AM, 
mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> 
mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

I hope this email finds you all well.

I wanted to know if any of you have installed smart locks in homes and what did 
you use?

I am looking for something accessible, with a physical keypad possible, or 
something accessible for entry.


Thanks in advance.

Juan

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[janet gross]

Hi Mark!
You are doing a wonderful job with the list, so thank you for that!  I would 
like to see Apple bring back the recent call feature, meaning we use to be able 
to keep 1000 calls in the recent phone App, but now we can only keep 100 before 
they will automatically be deleted.  In my case though, calls are being deleted 
after I save only 10 calls another bug for me!  Although, I've never kept 1000 
calls in my recent phone App.  I get only military time from the clock app, 
another bug!  I need to reset my phone to kill those bugs!  I do wish Apple 
could catch a few more bugs than they do though before they send out the 
updates.  I know they can't catch all of them, but it just seems like more and 
more bugs!  This gives me the creeps!  Smile!

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just 
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple 
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is the 
ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to 
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Joseph,
I like the idea about removing the deadbolts, and replacing them with the 
keypad, but I also have door nobs with locks on them, so not sure how that 
would all work out.  I also wonder how easy it might be for someone to break 
the keypad, do you know?

Janet

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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Hi Sieghard,
Thank you for this.  I'm also wondering because I have a Door nob that has a 
small push in lock on it too.  Would I need to replace the door nob too, or 
would the smart lock open that one too.  I am definitely considering on buying 
a smart lock, but I've never heard of them until now.  So, all this is new to 
me.

Janet

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Weitzel
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Subject: RE: smart locks

Janet,

I believe there are locks which can use an existing setup, but typically the 
smartlock is the deadbolt and you are much better off with a good Schlage, 
August, Wiser, Yale or other smartlock than to try and put something over an 
existing deadbolt which will turn it. Most of such locks are relatively easily 
installed although most people probably would need some sort of sighted help to 
do it. Basically you simply remove the existing deadbolt which is normally done 
by removing 2 screws on the inside and you may have to remove the strike plate 
on the edge of the door and replace it with what comes with the smartlock, but 
so far all such locks I have had come with a couple of different pieces of 
hardware so they can be used virtually to replace any standard deadbolt 
installation. On the outside you then have the keypad which can be either 
something with buttons or a touchscreen and on the inside you have a box which 
contains the motor to turn the deadbolt and the batteries, typically either 4 
AA or 1 square 9 Volt, AA seems to be the more common type now.
As Matter/thread support becomes a thing in home automation I would at this 
point never buy a new smartlock which didn't support this as it makes 
connection to other smart home devices and standards such as Apple's Home Kit, 
Alexa or Google Home much simpler. In my opinion the Schlage Encode Plus is the 
lock to check out; it is of course entirely possible Schlage may have released 
a new version, but if not make sure it says "Encode Plus" and not just "Encode".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Joseph,
This sounds very interesting!  I wonder if they sell something that goes over a 
Deadbolt, as that is what I currently have on both my doors? I also wonder if 
this could be pared with a video ring doorbell.

Thank you.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Well, Janet, you would have two options. You can go onto the app and set them 
up with their own code, and make a tap in the code to get in that way, or you 
can open the app no matter wherever you're at and you can tap on the lock image 
and it will unlock the door.

On May 31, 2023, at 8:43 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Joseph,
This does sound great, as I had no idea about smart locks.  I would be 
interested in buying one of these.  But, my next question is how far do you 
have to be away.  For example, I am at the store, and the store is 10 miles 
away, how could I let you in my door? I'm thinking of the distance before I 
could let someone in my door using the app on my phone.

Janet

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 On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Janet, the purpose of smart door locks are, let's just say, do you want to 
send somebody to your house, to pick up something for you. But you're not home. 
You could either unlock it for them, or you can give them a virtual key that 
you could later just dispose of or, let's say you left your house and 
accidentally forgot to lock your doors. You could launch that app, and lock 
your doors directly from the app.

On May 25, 2023, at 10:44 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi All,
This might sound a little silly, but what is the purpose of a smart door lock?

Janet

From: 
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 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Then you either type in the code if you are able or can do so with the help of 
Aira or Be My Eyes or you use a key.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegr

RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[janet gross]

Sieghard,
Oh I would love this too.  It drives me nuts I have to keep deleting my own 
calls that I’ve made!  It drives me nuts also when I delete a voice message , I 
have to go to the recent calls, and delete the exact same call, so basically I 
am deleting the same calls two times.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

And I wish 14 hyears after the iPhone 3GS was released the phone app would 
finally get an update so you can filter your Recent calls not just by "All" and 
"Missed", but also by "Incoming" and "Outgoing", maybe even by "Not in my 
Contacts" or "Private/Unknown Numbers" and of course it would have to include a 
search field where you can type part of a numbe ror contact and see only the 
numbers matching say a particular area code. Lastly, once the list has been 
filtered there should be a "Select All" and "Delete" option which would delete 
only the calls currently visible, e.g. say you want to delete all outgoing 
calls or all Missed calls. Right now if even if you tap on the "Missed" tab and 
then tap on Edit" and "Delete Selected", the entire recent call list is deelted.
My old Windows 5.1 smartphone with MobileSpeak back in 2005 or 2006 had this 
functionality and I absolutely can't believe how people would not find it 
useful to have the ability to filter or search their recent call list.after

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
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Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE
- Original Message -
From: Traci Duncan
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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci

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Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Sieghard,
Ok now, I wonder how easy would it be for someone to pick the physical key hole 
on the Smart Lock?  Have you ever heard of maybe a video or camera on one of 
those ?Smart Locks, so if someone did try to pick it when one might not be home 
it would snap a picture of the person?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks

No, a smart door lock does not open such a secondary lock. Basically think of a 
smartlock as a replacement of your existing deadbolt, bujt instead of just a 
keyhole on the outside and the lever on the inside you throw or turn to 
lock/unlock, the smart door lock also has a small box mounted on the inside 
which still contains a manual thumb lever/turn to lock/unlock, but it also 
houses the motor which turns it electronically when you use the keypad or phone 
to unlock it and of course a battery compartment. The outside still has a 
standard kehyhole where you can unlock with a key, but there is also a keypad, 
either with buttons or a touch screen. There still are also door locks which 
have a fingerprint sensor, but they were more popular 10 or 15 years ago. I had 
I think at least 2 and they could be quite fiddly reading your print especially 
in the winter when it is cold here and I may have dry and cold hands etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Hi Sieghard,
Thank you for this.  I'm also wondering because I have a Door nob that has a 
small push in lock on it too.  Would I need to replace the door nob too, or 
would the smart lock open that one too.  I am definitely considering on buying 
a smart lock, but I've never heard of them until now.  So, all this is new to 
me.

Janet

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Janet,

I believe there are locks which can use an existing setup, but typically the 
smartlock is the deadbolt and you are much better off with a good Schlage, 
August, Wiser, Yale or other smartlock than to try and put something over an 
existing deadbolt which will turn it. Most of such locks are relatively easily 
installed although most people probably would need some sort of sighted help to 
do it. Basically you simply remove the existing deadbolt which is normally done 
by removing 2 screws on the inside and you may have to remove the strike plate 
on the edge of the door and replace it with what comes with the smartlock, but 
so far all such locks I have had come with a couple of different pieces of 
hardware so they can be used virtually to replace any standard deadbolt 
installation. On the outside you then have the keypad which can be either 
something with buttons or a touchscreen and on the inside you have a box which 
contains the motor to turn the deadbolt and the batteries, typically either 4 
AA or 1 square 9 Volt, AA seems to be the more common type now.
As Matter/thread support becomes a thing in home automation I would at this 
point never buy a new smartlock which didn't support this as it makes 
connection to other smart home devices and standards such as Apple's Home Kit, 
Alexa or Google Home much simpler. In my opinion the Schlage Encode Plus is the 
lock to check out; it is of course entirely possible Schlage may have released 
a new version, but if not make sure it says "Encode Plus" and not just "Encode".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Joseph,
This sounds very interesting!  I wonder if they sell something that goes over a 
Deadbolt, as that is what I currently have on both my doors? I also wonder if 
this could be pared with a video ring doorbell.

Thank you.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Well, Janet, you would have two options. You can go onto the app and set them 
up with their own code, and make a tap in the code to get in that way, or you 
can open the app no matter wherever you're at and you can tap on the lock image 
and it will unlock the door.

On May 31, 2023, at 8:43 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com&

RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Sieghard,
I definitely want a Smart deadbolt Lock, but I can't get rid of the door nob 
because I wouldn't have any way to open the door, but maybe I could just leave 
that door nob button unlocked.  This way I could still get in my house.  If the 
Smart Deadbolt Locks are that secure, I should be fine unlocking the door nob.  
I can't help but laugh about this, because I wouldn't even know how to get 
through a door without using a door nob, rather it be a push in or turn nob.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks

A good deadbolt is really all you need, these old twist handles where you have 
a button you can push in or where you push in and twist the handle to lock it 
are really not rated for exterior doors; they are good for privachy doors like 
a bathroom or bedroom, but they would not stand up to any sort of force. I 
prefer a good smartlock deadbolt and a nice lever-style handle, but then I am 
Germany and we never had round door handles which you had to twist, even when I 
was a little child in the late 60's interior as well as exterior doors had 
lever-style push down handles.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Joseph,
I like the idea about removing the deadbolts, and replacing them with the 
keypad, but I also have door nobs with locks on them, so not sure how that 
would all work out.  I also wonder how easy it might be for someone to break 
the keypad, do you know?

Janet

Janet
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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Hi Joseph,
Yes, that would be great.  I appreciate it.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Janet, I need to dive into my Amazon and send you a link to door knobs that 
were ordered with mine that her securely locked when the deadbolt is locked. 
Now keep in mind, these door knobs do not have key holes. So that way nobody 
can pick the lock to try to get in. Which I think is a good thing. So the only 
Lock that you would have to worry about is the deadbolt lock. Both of these 
items are made by the company that we're discussing.
Joseph Hudson

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On Jun 1, 2023, at 1:16 AM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Sieghard,
I definitely want a Smart deadbolt Lock, but I can't get rid of the door nob 
because I wouldn't have any way to open the door, but maybe I could just leave 
that door nob button unlocked.  This way I could still get in my house.  If the 
Smart Deadbolt Locks are that secure, I should be fine unlocking the door nob.  
I can't help but laugh about this, because I wouldn't even know how to get 
through a door without using a door nob, rather it be a push in or turn nob.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

A good deadbolt is really all you need, these old twist handles where you have 
a button you can push in or where you push in and twist the handle to lock it 
are really not rated for exterior doors; they are good for privachy doors like 
a bathroom or bedroom, but they would not stand up to any sort of force. I 
prefer a good smartlock deadbolt and a nice lever-style handle, but then I am 
Germany and we never had round door handles which you had to twist, even when I 
was a little child in the late 60's interior as well as exterior doors had 
lever-style push down handles.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Joseph,
I like the idea about removing the deadbolts, and replacing them with the 
keypad, but I also have door nobs with locks on them, so not sure how that 
would all work out.  I also wonder how easy it might be for someone to break 
the keypad, do you know?

Janet

Janet
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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

hone or Apple Watch for easy and 
secure access to your home
VOICE CONTROL: Works with Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant for optional, 
hands-free convenience when paired with the Schlage Home app and a voice 
enabled device. Works with Siri when paired with Apple HomeKit
ADVANCED SECURITY: Secure, encrypted connection; built-in, customizable alarm 
for door movement and forced entry attempts; fingerprint-resistant touchscreen; 
certified highest residential Security, Durability and Finish rating by BHMA 
industry experts
EASY INSTALL: Install in minutes with just a screwdriver, no hardwiring 
required; Snap 'n Stay design helps keep the lock on the door so both hands are 
free; fits standard doors with 1-3/8 in. to 1-3/4 in. door thickness and 2-3/8 
in. or 2-3/4 in. backset

Manual: The Home Depot will provide an accessible format of PDFs upon request. 
Please contact us at 1-800-628-0525.

Details
Biometric (For Electronic Keypad): No
Collection Name: Accent
Colour/Finish: Matte Black
Commercial/Residential: Commercial/Residential
Connectivity: Wi-Fi, Manual
Country of Origin: MX-Mexico
Cylinder: Single, Electronic
Fits Door Thickness: 1.75
Handing
Center
Included Components:
Mounting Hardware, Lock Nut, Mounting Screw With Washer, Housing, All mounting 
Hardware, Clip, Fittings, Installation Screws, Mounting Plate, Battery, Keys, 
Deck Plate, Cams, Offset Cam
Lighted: (for electronic keypad)
Material: Mixed
Number of Users (for electronic keypad): 40+
Security Grade: Grade 1 (Best)
Smart Technology: Smart
Style: Traditional, Classic, Retro
Type: Door Locks and Deadbolts, Keypads, Latch, Locks/Latches
Voice Assistant: Alexa, Google Assistant, Siri
Warranty / Certifications: WARRANTY: Limited lifetime mechanical and finish 
warranty and 3-year electronics warrant.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 11:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Sieghard,
I definitely want a Smart deadbolt Lock, but I can't get rid of the door nob 
because I wouldn't have any way to open the door, but maybe I could just leave 
that door nob button unlocked.  This way I could still get in my house.  If the 
Smart Deadbolt Locks are that secure, I should be fine unlocking the door nob.  
I can't help but laugh about this, because I wouldn't even know how to get 
through a door without using a door nob, rather it be a push in or turn nob.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

A good deadbolt is really all you need, these old twist handles where you have 
a button you can push in or where you push in and twist the handle to lock it 
are really not rated for exterior doors; they are good for privachy doors like 
a bathroom or bedroom, but they would not stand up to any sort of force. I 
prefer a good smartlock deadbolt and a nice lever-style handle, but then I am 
Germany and we never had round door handles which you had to twist, even when I 
was a little child in the late 60's interior as well as exterior doors had 
lever-style push down handles.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Joseph,
I like the idea about removing the deadbolts, and replacing them with the 
keypad, but I also have door nobs with locks on them, so not sure how that 
would all work out.  I also wonder how easy it might be for someone to break 
the keypad, do you know?

Janet

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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Hi Joseph,
Thank you for this, as this is kind of you.  Although, when I asked you to send 
me the information, I meant for just the Smart Lock.  I don’t have any 
intentions of replacing my door knobs though.
Thank you again.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Janet, here are the levers that I ordered. That go with the door locks that 
Sieghard and I both have. Schlage F10 LAT 619 CEN Latitude... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005E5BOA6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share 


On Jun 1, 2023, at 8:05 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Joseph,
Yes, that would be great.  I appreciate it.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Janet, I need to dive into my Amazon and send you a link to door knobs that 
were ordered with mine that her securely locked when the deadbolt is locked. 
Now keep in mind, these door knobs do not have key holes. So that way nobody 
can pick the lock to try to get in. Which I think is a good thing. So the only 
Lock that you would have to worry about is the deadbolt lock. Both of these 
items are made by the company that we're discussing.
Joseph Hudson

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On Jun 1, 2023, at 1:16 AM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Sieghard,
I definitely want a Smart deadbolt Lock, but I can’t get rid of the door nob 
because I wouldn’t have any way to open the door, but maybe I could just leave 
that door nob button unlocked.  This way I could still get in my house.  If the 
Smart Deadbolt Locks are that secure, I should be fine unlocking the door nob.  
I can’t help but laugh about this, because I wouldn’t even know how to get 
through a door without using a door nob, rather it be a push in or turn nob.

Janet
From: 
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 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

A good deadbolt is really all you need, these old twist handles where you have 
a button you can push in or where you push in and twist the handle to lock it 
are really not rated for exterior doors; they are good for privachy doors like 
a bathroom or bedroom, but they would not stand up to any sort of force. I 
prefer a good smartlock deadbolt and a nice lever-style handle, but then I am 
Germany and we never had round door handles which you had to twist, even when I 
was a little child in the late 60's interior as well as exterior doors had 
lever-style push down handles.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Joseph,
I like the idea about removing the deadbolts, and replacing them with the 
keypad, but I also have door nobs with locks on them, so not sure how that 
would all work out.  I also wonder how easy it might be for someone to break 
the keypad, do you know?

Janet

Janet
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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Sieghard,
Thank you again, but I completely understand the door lever the door knob.  I 
have a door knob, and I don't have any intentions of replacing it because I am 
fine with it.  All I need it for is to get through the door and that's all.  
Hey Sieghard, I have to admit I can't help but laugh every time we talk about 
these door knobs or levers.It doesn't matter to me how they look, just the 
purpose they serve.  Although, there isn't anything wrong with the way they 
look, as I said before every where I go, they have the exact same door 
knobs, and they look fine to me, and maybe everyone else since they all have 
them too.


Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks

Janet, I try to explain one more time, when I speak about a door knob or lever 
I mean an item which does the same thing, it opens the door.
Maybe if you go to Home Depot you can ask them to show you lever-style handles, 
as I said, coming from Europe (in my case Germany) that is all we ever had. 
When I came to Canada for the first time in 1980 at the age of 13 having all 
this twist type knobs on doors was a total novalty for me. Luckily at least 
here in Canada the more modern lever-style handles are catching on more and 
more and I don't have a single knob-type handle on any door both at my house 
and at the more heavy-duty, solid commercial doors at my store. All have 
levers, you push down and open the door instead of grabbing the knob and 
twisting it. It is also much easier to open a door with a lever-style handle if 
your hands are full since you can simply push it down with your elbow, forearm, 
hip or if you so choose even with your head, leg or foot (then of course you 
have to balance on one leg as you lift the other to push the handle. If you 
cary something very large you could even turn around and hook it with your belt 
- the possibilities are ndless. And I also think they look way nicer.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Hi Sieghard,
I completely understand the difference between the door knob, lever, deadbolt.  
I do definitely need a door knob though, or I couldn't open the door.  I have a 
thick wooden door, and even though, the door knob is not the main loc to open 
the door, I still have to have it to open the door.  We do not use the door 
knob for the main lock though.  That is why we also have a other lock such as 
the deadbolt as our main lock.  Every one where I live have door knobs.  
Because I have a thick wooden door, I can't just swing the wooden door open.  
We have the door knobs all through the building, in the hallways, laundry 
rooms, front doors, back doors, basement doors, boiler room.  No matter where I 
go, rather it be a office or such, they all have door knobs for opening and 
closing, in doctor's offices, through all hospitals, lawyers offices, 
Government offices.  So that is how we get through doors, but these knobs are 
not the main locks.  This information about the smart lock, sounds great, and 
very interesting.  I will definitely consider this one.  I would have to ask 
the Home Depo if they could install it for me though.
Thank you so much for all of this.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

Janet, you have to understand the difference between the knob or lever you turn 
or push down on to open an unlocked door and the deadbolt.
If you have a good and secure deadbolt there is no reason to also have a 
knob/lever which can be locked. As I said before, these are typically not very 
strong and are designed for inside the house for bathrooms, bedrooms or an 
office which you may want to lock, but  you are not typically worried about 
something which is extremely secure, just something to keep somebody out like 
when you go to the washroom and you simply don't want somebody else to walk in 
on you.
As I said, I prefer the European style levers but of course a round or ovel 
knob you twist works just fine if that is your preference and of course you 
could leave your existing lockable knob, but if you don't carry the key then 
just make sur eyou don't accidently lock it when you leave.
Below is the name and a summary of the Schlage Encode Plus which is my next 
choice for a smart lock since it supports the "Apple Keys" feature which allows 
you to unlock it by tapping your phone or watch against the lock. This means 
you can unlock 

RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

[janet gross]

Carolyn,
If you don't have a home button meaning you use face id.  Simultaneously press 
and then release the side button and volume up button, and that will take a 
screen shot.  Tap the screenshot in the lower left corner, look for the done 
button, tap Done.



Janet
Janet

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Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

And with no Home Button, what do you do?

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Yes, you have to turn off the screen curtain before taking a screen shot, 
otherwise, you get a nice black picture with no helpful information.




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Armstrong
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Here is how to take a screen shot on any iPhone with a home button.

I don't know if it is required, but I recommend that you make sure the screen 
curtain is off before taking a screen shot.  Turn the screen curtain on or off 
with a 3 finger triple-tap.

Press the power button and home button at the same time.  You will hear the 
camera click.  Wait just a few seconds, and the screen shot will be in the 
photo library.

Rob

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Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Hi all,

I need to take a screenshot to send to an app vendor for diagnostic purposes. 
But I can't remember how to do it. Could someone remind me? I'm running the 
latest iOS on an SE second generation iPhone.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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RE: smart locks

[janet gross]

Hi Joseph,
Thank you so much, as all this is very kind of you, and I greatly appreciate 
it.  Trust me my current door knob will not look funny, but if I can’t use the 
smart lock with   my door knob, then I just won’t get the smart lock.  
Although, I have to admit I’ve never heard of anyone having any problems with 
the type of door knobs I am talking about.  So, I’m not sure if I am explaining 
this right or not, but I will soon find out, as I am very interested in the 
smart lock.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 10:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Janet, here is the smart lock. I thought you already had those in your cart. 
And I thought you were wondering about the handles. I shared the handles with 
you, because of the fact that we were discussing the door knobs. So I share 
those with you because we were discussing, what type of door knobs you would 
need to go with your lock. Here is the lock in question that we are currently 
using right now to go with the door knobs that we've also installed. However, 
in your case, since you're not going to switch out your door knobs, you might 
want to make sure that your levers match your lock that way that it doesn't 
look funny to that side at a time visual that may walk past your door.

Schlage Encode Smart Wi-Fi... 
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On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:25 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Joseph,
Thank you for this, as this is kind of you.  Although, when I asked you to send 
me the information, I meant for just the Smart Lock.  I don’t have any 
intentions of replacing my door knobs though.
Thank you again.

Janet

From: 
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 On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Hi Janet, here are the levers that I ordered. That go with the door locks that 
Sieghard and I both have. Schlage F10 LAT 619 CEN 
Latitude...https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005E5BOA6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share 



On Jun 1, 2023, at 8:05 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Joseph,
Yes, that would be great.  I appreciate it.

Janet

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 On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: smart locks

Janet, I need to dive into my Amazon and send you a link to door knobs that 
were ordered with mine that her securely locked when the deadbolt is locked. 
Now keep in mind, these door knobs do not have key holes. So that way nobody 
can pick the lock to try to get in. Which I think is a good thing. So the only 
Lock that you would have to worry about is the deadbolt lock. Both of these 
items are made by the company that we're discussing.
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On Jun 1, 2023, at 1:16 AM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Sieghard,
I definitely want a Smart deadbolt Lock, but I can’t get rid of the door nob 
because I wouldn’t have any way to open the door, but maybe I could just leave 
that door nob button unlocked.  This way I could still get in my house.  If the 
Smart Deadbolt Locks are that secure, I should be fine unlocking the door nob.  
I can’t help but laugh about this, because I wouldn’t even know how to get 
through a door without using a door nob, rather it be a push in or turn nob.

Janet
From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: smart locks

A good deadbolt is really all you need, these old twist handles where you have 
a button you can push in or where you push in and twist the handle to lock it 
are really not rated for exterior doors; they are good for privachy doors like 
a bathroom or bedroom, but they would not stand up to any sort of force. I 
prefer a good smartlock deadbolt and a nice lever-style handle, but then I am 
Germany and we never had round door handles which you had to twist, even when I 
was a little child in the late 60's interior as well as exterior doors had 
lever-style push down handles.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.co

RE: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
With all these recent changes with the company, does this affect the use of the 
VDR use for those who bought Voice Dream Reader?

Thank you for any input on this.

Janet
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech TTS 
Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I checked 
directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. name as 
well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. However, the 
app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader Audio books, but 
if you double tap on that button or just read a little further down in the app 
store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.
HTH,



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On Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly 
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Hi list,

As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader 
Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the 
product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS 
Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and 
wanted to make others aware of it.

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RE: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[janet gross]

Richard,
This is great to know, so thank you.  I did buy the Voice Dream Reader as well 
as the Voice Dream scanner, and I love the both of them!  Especially Voice 
Dream Scanner!  I haven’t gotten to far in to the Voice Dream Reader yet, but 
it is on my list of things to learn.
Thank you again.

Janet
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2023 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

Nothing will change for people who bought the app before Winston sold Voice 
Dream LLC.
They are committed to keeping the app updated and expanded where necessary. The 
name change was to widen the possible audiance since if someone searches for 
text to speech, or TTS they will also find Voice Dream Reader.
It could happen that one day in the future even those of us who purchased the 
app may be asked to subscribe, who knows, but there are no plans to do that 
anytime soon.
For my part, I would gladly pay a subscription fee; just like I do with 
Microsoft 365, Apple Music, Amazon Prime, etc.


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On Jun 3, 2023, at 2:25 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
With all these recent changes with the company, does this affect the use of the 
VDR use for those who bought Voice Dream Reader?

Thank you for any input on this.

Janet
Janet

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech TTS 
Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I checked 
directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. name as 
well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. However, the 
app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader Audio books, but 
if you double tap on that button or just read a little further down in the app 
store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.
HTH,



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On Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi list,

As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader 
Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the 
product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS 
Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and 
wanted to make others aware of it.

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RE: Snooze.

[janet gross]

Hi All,
I am a real fan of the snooze on my alarm on my phone, and I love it!  
Although, I do press the snooze button several times before I finally get out 
of bed.  I also do understand some people just don't like that though.  When my 
alarm goes off, I have the option to press the snooze button again, or to press 
the stop button, in which will turnthe alarm completely off, so it is my 
choice. I have to turn off the alarm some way rather I press the snooze or the 
stop button.  I think I seen in one of these messages Donna gave instructions 
to disable the snooze feature completely, so someone wouldn't be bothered with 
it at all.

Janet
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Snooze.

Carolyn and others, What does disabling snooze by me? I would think that you 
could avoid it by just not hitting the snooze button, but it sounds like there 
might be some advantage to this that I'm not aware of.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Snooze.

I don't think having the snooze switch on or off really makes a difference, as 
long as you hit the stop button when a bird goes off. I just adjusted this on 
my alarm to see if it makes a difference the next time I said it. I know that 
if you hit the lock button, it will automatically snooze.

> On Jun 4, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, now, I guess that any time I set an alarm, I have to go in and take off 
> Snooze, or is a way to eliminate, what to me, is totally annoying. I like to 
> sleep as long as I can, and when the clock goes off, get up and go for my day!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Donna Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 2:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Snooze.
>
> Carolyn,
>
> Find & open the Clock app. Swipe down to the alarm time in which you want to 
> turn off Snooze. Flick on the time until you get to Edit, then tap to expand. 
> Swipe down to Snooze & tap to toggle OFF. Tap on Save at the top of the page. 
> Tap on BACK to go to the list of your alarms to find & Edit other set Alarm 
> times or just Close the app.
>
> Donna
>>
>> I literally despise Snooze, thought I had it off, but this morning,
>> I was bothered with the thing. So, my question is, please, what is it
>> that I do to turn the thing off forever?
>> I mean, I realize it could come back again with an update, but what
>> can I do to turn it off as long as possible?
>> Thanks.
>>
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RE: Snooze.

[janet gross]

Carolyn,
You don't really even have to open or turn on your phone, when the alarm goes 
off, pick up your phone, either flick up or down, or what I do, is just swipe 
left to right, and the only options I have is to snooze or stop.  If I want to 
snooze, I double tab on that, or if I want to stop the alarm, double tab on 
that.  I think the snooze option is set as a default, so you will either have 
to disable the snooze when you set the alarm, or just do what I said above.   I 
wonder if you had Hey Siri set up, could you just tell her to stop the alarm, 
not sure though, as I don't have the Hey Siri set up.  Just a thought.

Janet



Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Snooze.

So, then, I just tapped my phone, but if I open and flick, I can go to Stop?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Snooze.

Hi All,
I am a real fan of the snooze on my alarm on my phone, and I love it!  
Although, I do press the snooze button several times before I finally get out 
of bed.  I also do understand some people just don't like that though.  When my 
alarm goes off, I have the option to press the snooze button again, or to press 
the stop button, in which will turnthe alarm completely off, so it is my 
choice. I have to turn off the alarm some way rather I press the snooze or the 
stop button.  I think I seen in one of these messages Donna gave instructions 
to disable the snooze feature completely, so someone wouldn't be bothered with 
it at all.

Janet
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Snooze.

Carolyn and others, What does disabling snooze by me? I would think that you 
could avoid it by just not hitting the snooze button, but it sounds like there 
might be some advantage to this that I'm not aware of.

--
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Snooze.

I don't think having the snooze switch on or off really makes a difference, as 
long as you hit the stop button when a bird goes off. I just adjusted this on 
my alarm to see if it makes a difference the next time I said it. I know that 
if you hit the lock button, it will automatically snooze.

> On Jun 4, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, now, I guess that any time I set an alarm, I have to go in and take off 
> Snooze, or is a way to eliminate, what to me, is totally annoying. I like to 
> sleep as long as I can, and when the clock goes off, get up and go for my day!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Donna Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 2:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Snooze.
>
> Carolyn,
>
> Find & open the Clock app. Swipe down to the alarm time in which you want to 
> turn off Snooze. Flick on the time until you get to Edit, then tap to expand. 
> Swipe down to Snooze & tap to toggle OFF. Tap on Save at the top of the page. 
> Tap on BACK to go to the list of your alarms to find & Edit other set Alarm 
> times or just Close the app.
>
> Donna
>>
>> I literally despise Snooze, thought I had it off, but this morning,
>> I was bothered with the thing. So, my question is, please, what is it
>> that I do to turn the thing off forever?
>> I mean, I realize it could come back again with an update, but what
>> can I do to turn it off as long as possible?
>> Thanks.
>>
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Downloading An App From The App Store Help Please.

[janet gross]

HI everyone,
I can't seem to find how to download  an certain app from the app store.  I 
know it's been quite some time since I downloaded from the app store, but 
something must have changed.  I tap on the search, but I don't get any edit 
field to type in the name of the app I want to download. I'm using iOS 16.5.1, 
XR phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Janet

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RE: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by sighted folks

[janet gross]

Hello Richard and All,
Where would I find the Photo app to find the screen shot? I’ve never done this 
meaning looking for a screen shot, so I’m not for sure where to find it.

Thank you.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by 
sighted folks

As Sieghard pointed out, there isn't much you need to do.
However, I would guess that if your font is set very small, that could cause an 
issue. However, if this was a screenshot from a web page, it could be the  web 
page font at fault.
I'd leave it to the person you send it to to figure out and let you know if the 
font size is an issue. If you increase your font, you might not get everything 
you want in the picture.



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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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On Jul 30, 2023, at 1:21 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:

A while back, I sent one to a friend and she said the print was so small, she 
could barely read it.  Fortunately, she had a way to enlarge it.  But, if I 
ever need to send these to someone who does not have that ability, it would be 
helpful for me to know how to make the img file bigger.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by 
sighted folks

If you open the Photos app and tap on the Library tab along the bottom, you can 
then find "Screenshots" as a album or whatever you want to call it.
This contains all your screenshots.
I am not sure what you mean by "making them accessible to sighted people", any 
sighted person can see the screenshot so there isn't really anything you have 
to "make accessible".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by 
sighted folks

Can someone give me step by step instructions on finding screen shots taken 
with iPhone and then how to make them accessible to sighted people.  I have not 
changed any of the default settings on my phone.  I have tried finding them by 
going in to the camera which is where I think I see some of them.  I just can’t 
seem to see the whole screenshot.  I also tried going to library and found that 
confusing as well.  In some instances I find options to zoom or zoom out.  What 
do these mean?  Do they make a difference in how the shot is spoken or viewed?  
Thanks for your help.  As you can see, my picture taking knowledge is limited.  
Smiles!!
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RE: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by sighted folks

[janet gross]

HI Richard,
Thank you for this.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by 
sighted folks

I'd either ask Siri to open it, or use the Spotlight search to find it.
if you haven't run across it, it may be in a folder called utilities.


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On Jul 30, 2023, at 1:59 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello Richard and All,
Where would I find the Photo app to find the screen shot? I’ve never done this 
meaning looking for a screen shot, so I’m not for sure where to find it.

Thank you.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by 
sighted folks

As Sieghard pointed out, there isn't much you need to do.
However, I would guess that if your font is set very small, that could cause an 
issue. However, if this was a screenshot from a web page, it could be the  web 
page font at fault.
I'd leave it to the person you send it to to figure out and let you know if the 
font size is an issue. If you increase your font, you might not get everything 
you want in the picture.



Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>




On Jul 30, 2023, at 1:21 PM, kheve...@fuse.net<mailto:kheve...@fuse.net> wrote:

A while back, I sent one to a friend and she said the print was so small, she 
could barely read it.  Fortunately, she had a way to enlarge it.  But, if I 
ever need to send these to someone who does not have that ability, it would be 
helpful for me to know how to make the img file bigger.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by 
sighted folks

If you open the Photos app and tap on the Library tab along the bottom, you can 
then find "Screenshots" as a album or whatever you want to call it.
This contains all your screenshots.
I am not sure what you mean by "making them accessible to sighted people", any 
sighted person can see the screenshot so there isn't really anything you have 
to "make accessible".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net<mailto:kheve...@fuse.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: accessing screen shots on iPhone and then making them readable by 
sighted folks

Can someone give me step by step instructions on finding screen shots taken 
with iPhone and then how to make them accessible to sighted people.  I have not 
changed any of the default settings on my phone.  I have tried finding them by 
going in to the camera which is where I think I see some of them.  I just can’t 
seem to see the whole screenshot.  I also tried going to library and found that 
confusing as well.  In some instances I find options to zoom or zoom out.  What 
do these mean?  Do they make a difference in how the shot is spoken or viewed?  
Thanks for your help.  As you can see, my picture taking knowledge is limited.  
Smiles!!
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RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Hello Dennis and All,
I say to Siri, play my weather forecast on Weatherology, the first time she 
responded by reading the weather forecast herself.  The second time she 
responded by saying she needs access to my Weatherologyapp, and I then 
responded by saying yes, and the Weatherology started reading my weather 
forecast.  I then asked Siri two times after that to play my weather forecast 
on my Weatherology, and sure enough, the Weatherology gave me my weather 
forecast!
Thank you so much  Dennis as well as Richard for introducing this wonderful 
app!  I absolutely love it!


Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

I also let them know about this.  I have no doubt it will be fixed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app


Hi Richard can you let us know when this problem is fixed please?

Dave


On 8/8/2023 10:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I am finding their support people very responsive.
I tried the Siri command that is supposed to get it to play your forecast, but 
Siri just spoke it.
I wrote them and the developer said the command should be "Hey Siri, play my 
forecast on Weatherology."  But he tried it several times and got the same 
response I did, so he is working on that.
That response was within about half a day.  I don't know exactly where their 
staff is located, but that is really excellent responsiveness in my book.




Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 12:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Yes it is free.  They need to improve some things but they say more voice over 
improvements are coming.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Is it free?  I just downloaded "please don't rain".

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have used this app for a year or two and I love it.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2023 12:01 PM
Subject: Weatherology iOS app

Thanks to Dennis Long for recommending this app.
I have added its details to my web site.  I'm copying what I put on my site 
below which includes the link to the app store.
Weatherology Mobile, LLC., free

I had tried this app some years ago. They have been udpating it, and now it 
works well with VoiceOver, at least for the forecast info. IN the 7.9 version, 
in settings, if you double tap on details instead of the simple forecast, it 
doesn't say selected, but it is. That should be fixed in the next update. Their 
customer support is excellent!

Description from the app store:
The first weather app that fully integrates into your home and car with 
real-time audio weather reports and emergency weather notifications; 
personalized for you.
We take weather to another level.
Our patented technology delivers real-time audio weather reports to your 
location.
It's voice-activated: Ask Weatherology for the latest forecast.
At home. In your car. On your phone.
It's real-time. With up-to-the-minute weather updates including the latest 
watches, warnings, advisories, and bulletins. We alert you with relevant 
weather notifications to keep you informed.
It's real people, not voice simulation: Select your favorite weather talent, 
and they provide real-time weather reports on demand.
It's accurate and personalized for your location.
The technology is new, but the Weatherology team has been around for 34 years. 
We have contributed to more award-winning local weather broadcasts than our 
largest competitors combined.
Apple CarPlay audio apps must be voice-activated and offer audio capabilities 
only, which is exactly what our app does. With the exception of navigation 
apps, content such as weather maps and radar are currently prohibit

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of the phones or the way we speak to 
Siri.  Not sure though.  I am using an XR phone with 16.6, what are you using?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

Well, I just tried five or six times in a row and only when I miss spoke did 
Siri say which app do you want to listen to this on? I responded with a Rollin 
G, and Siri asked for access, I said, yes, it played it on Weatherology.
The next time I asked, it just spoke at its self like it has done every time 
cents. So hopefully the developer will figure this bug out and fix it 
permanently.


Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)


On Aug 11, 2023, at 11:00 AM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello Dennis and All,
I say to Siri, play my weather forecast on Weatherology, the first time she 
responded by reading the weather forecast herself.  The second time she 
responded by saying she needs access to my Weatherologyapp, and I then 
responded by saying yes, and the Weatherology started reading my weather 
forecast.  I then asked Siri two times after that to play my weather forecast 
on my Weatherology, and sure enough, the Weatherology gave me my weather 
forecast!
Thank you so much  Dennis as well as Richard for introducing this wonderful 
app!  I absolutely love it!


Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

I also let them know about this.  I have no doubt it will be fixed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app


Hi Richard can you let us know when this problem is fixed please?

Dave


On 8/8/2023 10:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I am finding their support people very responsive.
I tried the Siri command that is supposed to get it to play your forecast, but 
Siri just spoke it.
I wrote them and the developer said the command should be "Hey Siri, play my 
forecast on Weatherology."  But he tried it several times and got the same 
response I did, so he is working on that.
That response was within about half a day.  I don't know exactly where their 
staff is located, but that is really excellent responsiveness in my book.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 12:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Yes it is free.  They need to improve some things but they say more voice over 
improvements are coming.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net<mailto:kheve...@fuse.net>
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Is it free?  I just downloaded “please don’t rain”.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have used this app for a year or two and I love it.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2023 12:01 PM
Subject: Weatherology iOS app

Thanks to Dennis Long for recommending this app.
I have added its details to my web site.  I'm copying what I put on my site 
below which includes the link to the app store.
Weatherology Mobile, LLC., free

I had tried this app some years ago. They have been udpating it, and now it 
works well with VoiceOver, at least for the forecast info. IN the 7.9 version, 
in settings, if you double tap on details instead of the simple forecast, it 
doesn't say selected, but it is. That should be fixed in the next update. Their 
customer support is excellent

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

A 13 pro with iOS 16.6.
Normally, I have no issues with Siri commands, but since the developer was able 
to duplicate the issue, you are very lucky to get it to work consistently when 
the developer can't, 😊.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of the phones or the way we speak to 
Siri.  Not sure though.  I am using an XR phone with 16.6, what are you using?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

Well, I just tried five or six times in a row and only when I miss spoke did 
Siri say which app do you want to listen to this on? I responded with a Rollin 
G, and Siri asked for access, I said, yes, it played it on Weatherology.
The next time I asked, it just spoke at its self like it has done every time 
cents. So hopefully the developer will figure this bug out and fix it 
permanently.


Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Aug 11, 2023, at 11:00 AM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello Dennis and All,
I say to Siri, play my weather forecast on Weatherology, the first time she 
responded by reading the weather forecast herself.  The second time she 
responded by saying she needs access to my Weatherologyapp, and I then 
responded by saying yes, and the Weatherology started reading my weather 
forecast.  I then asked Siri two times after that to play my weather forecast 
on my Weatherology, and sure enough, the Weatherology gave me my weather 
forecast!
Thank you so much  Dennis as well as Richard for introducing this wonderful 
app!  I absolutely love it!


Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

I also let them know about this.  I have no doubt it will be fixed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app


Hi Richard can you let us know when this problem is fixed please?

Dave


On 8/8/2023 10:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I am finding their support people very responsive.
I tried the Siri command that is supposed to get it to play your forecast, but 
Siri just spoke it.
I wrote them and the developer said the command should be "Hey Siri, play my 
forecast on Weatherology."  But he tried it several times and got the same 
response I did, so he is working on that.
That response was within about half a day.  I don't know exactly where their 
staff is located, but that is really excellent responsiveness in my book.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 12:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Yes it is free.  They need to improve some things but they say more voice over 
improvements are coming.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net<mailto:kheve...@fuse.net>
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Is it free

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Hello Dennis,
Who said this wasn’t an issue?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

To say this isn’t an issue is not correct.  I can reproduce Richards issue on 
iOS 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

A 13 pro with iOS 16.6.
Normally, I have no issues with Siri commands, but since the developer was able 
to duplicate the issue, you are very lucky to get it to work consistently when 
the developer can't, 😊.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of the phones or the way we speak to 
Siri.  Not sure though.  I am using an XR phone with 16.6, what are you using?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

Well, I just tried five or six times in a row and only when I miss spoke did 
Siri say which app do you want to listen to this on? I responded with a Rollin 
G, and Siri asked for access, I said, yes, it played it on Weatherology.
The next time I asked, it just spoke at its self like it has done every time 
cents. So hopefully the developer will figure this bug out and fix it 
permanently.


Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Aug 11, 2023, at 11:00 AM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello Dennis and All,
I say to Siri, play my weather forecast on Weatherology, the first time she 
responded by reading the weather forecast herself.  The second time she 
responded by saying she needs access to my Weatherologyapp, and I then 
responded by saying yes, and the Weatherology started reading my weather 
forecast.  I then asked Siri two times after that to play my weather forecast 
on my Weatherology, and sure enough, the Weatherology gave me my weather 
forecast!
Thank you so much  Dennis as well as Richard for introducing this wonderful 
app!  I absolutely love it!


Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

I also let them know about this.  I have no doubt it will be fixed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app


Hi Richard can you let us know when this problem is fixed please?

Dave


On 8/8/2023 10:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I am finding their support people very responsive.
I tried the Siri command that is supposed to get it to play your forecast, but 
Siri just spoke it.
I wrote them and the developer said the command should be "Hey Siri, play my 
forecast on Weatherology."  But he tried it several times and got the same 
response I did, so he is working on that.
That response was within about half a day.  I don't know exactly where their 
staff is located, but that is really excellent responsiveness in my book.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Hi Julie,
Siri asked me for permission to use the Weatherology App, but that is all she 
asked me for.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have the app set up and still can't get Siri to ask for the voices to access 
the app. She ever only gives me the forecasts.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hello Dennis,
Who said this wasn’t an issue?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

To say this isn’t an issue is not correct.  I can reproduce Richards issue on 
iOS 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

A 13 pro with iOS 16.6.
Normally, I have no issues with Siri commands, but since the developer was able 
to duplicate the issue, you are very lucky to get it to work consistently when 
the developer can't, 😊.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of the phones or the way we speak to 
Siri.  Not sure though.  I am using an XR phone with 16.6, what are you using?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

Well, I just tried five or six times in a row and only when I miss spoke did 
Siri say which app do you want to listen to this on? I responded with a Rollin 
G, and Siri asked for access, I said, yes, it played it on Weatherology.
The next time I asked, it just spoke at its self like it has done every time 
cents. So hopefully the developer will figure this bug out and fix it 
permanently.


Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Aug 11, 2023, at 11:00 AM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello Dennis and All,
I say to Siri, play my weather forecast on Weatherology, the first time she 
responded by reading the weather forecast herself.  The second time she 
responded by saying she needs access to my Weatherologyapp, and I then 
responded by saying yes, and the Weatherology started reading my weather 
forecast.  I then asked Siri two times after that to play my weather forecast 
on my Weatherology, and sure enough, the Weatherology gave me my weather 
forecast!
Thank you so much  Dennis as well as Richard for introducing this wonderful 
app!  I absolutely love it!


Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

I also let them know about this.  I have no doubt it will be fixed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app


Hi Richard can you let us know when this problem is fixed please?

Dave


On 8/8/2023 10:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I am finding t

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Julie,
Are you asking Siri to read, read my Weather forecast from my Weatherology ap, 
if so, what does she say? This app does need some work, as it can be a little 
flaky though!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She will not seem to ask me for that option. I don't know how to get Siri to 
ask for permission to use the app.
Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Julie,
Siri asked me for permission to use the Weatherology App, but that is all she 
asked me for.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have the app set up and still can't get Siri to ask for the voices to access 
the app. She ever only gives me the forecasts.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hello Dennis,
Who said this wasn’t an issue?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

To say this isn’t an issue is not correct.  I can reproduce Richards issue on 
iOS 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

A 13 pro with iOS 16.6.
Normally, I have no issues with Siri commands, but since the developer was able 
to duplicate the issue, you are very lucky to get it to work consistently when 
the developer can't, 😊.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of the phones or the way we speak to 
Siri.  Not sure though.  I am using an XR phone with 16.6, what are you using?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

Well, I just tried five or six times in a row and only when I miss spoke did 
Siri say which app do you want to listen to this on? I responded with a Rollin 
G, and Siri asked for access, I said, yes, it played it on Weatherology.
The next time I asked, it just spoke at its self like it has done every time 
cents. So hopefully the developer will figure this bug out and fix it 
permanently.


Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Aug 11, 2023, at 11:00 AM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello Dennis and All,
I say to Siri, play my weather forecast on Weatherology, the first time she 
responded by reading the weather forecast herself.  The second time she 
responded by saying she needs access to my Weatherologyapp, and I then 
responded by saying yes, and the Weatherology started reading my weather 
forecast.  I then asked Siri two times after that to play my weather forecast 
on my Weatherology, and sure enough, the Weatherology gave me my weather 
forecast!
Thank you so much  Dennis as well as Richard for introducing this wonderful 
app!  I absolutely love it!


Jan

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Julie,
When you go in to the settings of the Weatherology app, do you double tap on 
the play button? If so, does the app then read?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She just reads it in her voice. I went into settings within the weatherology 
app itself and chose a metiorologist's voice but no luck.
Thank you for your help.
Julie
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Julie,
Are you asking Siri to read, read my Weather forecast from my Weatherology ap, 
if so, what does she say? This app does need some work, as it can be a little 
flaky though!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She will not seem to ask me for that option. I don't know how to get Siri to 
ask for permission to use the app.
Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Julie,
Siri asked me for permission to use the Weatherology App, but that is all she 
asked me for.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have the app set up and still can't get Siri to ask for the voices to access 
the app. She ever only gives me the forecasts.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hello Dennis,
Who said this wasn’t an issue?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

To say this isn’t an issue is not correct.  I can reproduce Richards issue on 
iOS 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

A 13 pro with iOS 16.6.
Normally, I have no issues with Siri commands, but since the developer was able 
to duplicate the issue, you are very lucky to get it to work consistently when 
the developer can't, 😊.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of the phones or the way we speak to 
Siri.  Not sure though.  I am using an XR phone with 16.6, what are you using?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

Well, I just tried five or six times in a row and only when I miss spoke did 
Siri say which app do you want to listen to this on? I responded with a Rollin 
G, and Siri asked for access, I said, yes, it played it on Weatherology.
The next time I asked, it just spoke at its self like it has done every time 
cents. So hopefully the developer will figure this bug out and fix it 
p

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Julie,
I didn’t know we could choose a voice.  I haven’t seen any options for choosing 
a voice in the app.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She just reads it in her voice. I went into settings within the weatherology 
app itself and chose a metiorologist's voice but no luck.
Thank you for your help.
Julie
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Julie,
Are you asking Siri to read, read my Weather forecast from my Weatherology ap, 
if so, what does she say? This app does need some work, as it can be a little 
flaky though!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She will not seem to ask me for that option. I don't know how to get Siri to 
ask for permission to use the app.
Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Julie,
Siri asked me for permission to use the Weatherology App, but that is all she 
asked me for.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have the app set up and still can't get Siri to ask for the voices to access 
the app. She ever only gives me the forecasts.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hello Dennis,
Who said this wasn’t an issue?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

To say this isn’t an issue is not correct.  I can reproduce Richards issue on 
iOS 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

A 13 pro with iOS 16.6.
Normally, I have no issues with Siri commands, but since the developer was able 
to duplicate the issue, you are very lucky to get it to work consistently when 
the developer can't, 😊.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of the phones or the way we speak to 
Siri.  Not sure though.  I am using an XR phone with 16.6, what are you using?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

Well, I just tried five or six times in a row and only when I miss spoke did 
Siri say which app do you want to listen to this on? I responded with a Rollin 
G, and Siri asked for access, I said, yes, it played it on Weatherology.
The next time I asked, it just spoke at its self like it has done every time 
cents. So hopefully the developer will figure this bug out and fix it 
permanently.


Richard, USA
——
&q

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Julie,
So you found it in the favorites, that’s good to hear.  I’m just trying to get 
familiar with this app.

Janet

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

No not in the voice I highlighted. I did figure out how to add favorites.
Smiles,
Julie
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Julie,
When you go in to the settings of the Weatherology app, do you double tap on 
the play button? If so, does the app then read?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She just reads it in her voice. I went into settings within the weatherology 
app itself and chose a metiorologist's voice but no luck.
Thank you for your help.
Julie
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Julie,
Are you asking Siri to read, read my Weather forecast from my Weatherology ap, 
if so, what does she say? This app does need some work, as it can be a little 
flaky though!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She will not seem to ask me for that option. I don't know how to get Siri to 
ask for permission to use the app.
Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Julie,
Siri asked me for permission to use the Weatherology App, but that is all she 
asked me for.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have the app set up and still can't get Siri to ask for the voices to access 
the app. She ever only gives me the forecasts.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hello Dennis,
Who said this wasn’t an issue?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

To say this isn’t an issue is not correct.  I can reproduce Richards issue on 
iOS 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

A 13 pro with iOS 16.6.
Normally, I have no issues with Siri commands, but since the developer was able 
to duplicate the issue, you are very lucky to get it to work consistently when 
the developer can't, 😊.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of the phones or the way we speak to 
Siri.  Not sure though.  I am usin

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Julie,
Ok, now I need to check this out too.  I will be sending an email to the 
developer, you might want to think about doing that too.  Maybe we all can get 
the developer to figure out which flake got in to this app.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 10:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

Under settings and perhaps audio it gives you voices to choose from.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 10:12 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Julie,
I didn’t know we could choose a voice.  I haven’t seen any options for choosing 
a voice in the app.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She just reads it in her voice. I went into settings within the weatherology 
app itself and chose a metiorologist's voice but no luck.
Thank you for your help.
Julie
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Julie,
Are you asking Siri to read, read my Weather forecast from my Weatherology ap, 
if so, what does she say? This app does need some work, as it can be a little 
flaky though!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She will not seem to ask me for that option. I don't know how to get Siri to 
ask for permission to use the app.
Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Julie,
Siri asked me for permission to use the Weatherology App, but that is all she 
asked me for.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have the app set up and still can't get Siri to ask for the voices to access 
the app. She ever only gives me the forecasts.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hello Dennis,
Who said this wasn’t an issue?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

To say this isn’t an issue is not correct.  I can reproduce Richards issue on 
iOS 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

A 13 pro with iOS 16.6.
Normally, I have no issues with Siri commands, but since the developer was able 
to duplicate the issue, you are very lucky to get it to work consistently when 
the developer can't, 😊.




Richard, USA.
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Richard,
I’m wondering if it makes a difference of 

RE: Weatherology iOS app

[janet gross]

Hello Dennis and All,
Thank you for this information about the audio!  I think I recently jinxed 
myself, when I told you all, the Weatherology worked fine for me, because now 
when I tell Siri to read my weather forecast from my Weatherology App, she 
replies by saying I don’t have a  app by that name!  Well, it was nice when it 
worked for the few days!  I also went in to the settings, and enabled the app 
to automatically read the forecast as soon as I open the app, and some times, 
that works and some times it doesn’t!  I also noticed if I tap on the play 
button to read out loud the current forecast, it says the current  temperature 
is 66 degrees, but when I just read the forecast without the audio feature, it 
reads the current temperature is 64 degrees.  Although, so far, I am still 
getting weather alerts.  Does any one know how I can check the current humidity 
from the app? I’ve searched and searched in the settings, but just can’t find 
it.

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly appreciated!

Janet.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

You go into audio there is a button before each voice that is the play button.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 10:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Julie,
When you go in to the settings of the Weatherology app, do you double tap on 
the play button? If so, does the app then read?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She just reads it in her voice. I went into settings within the weatherology 
app itself and chose a metiorologist's voice but no luck.
Thank you for your help.
Julie
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Julie,
Are you asking Siri to read, read my Weather forecast from my Weatherology ap, 
if so, what does she say? This app does need some work, as it can be a little 
flaky though!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

She will not seem to ask me for that option. I don't know how to get Siri to 
ask for permission to use the app.
Thank you.
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From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hi Julie,
Siri asked me for permission to use the Weatherology App, but that is all she 
asked me for.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Weatherology iOS app

I have the app set up and still can't get Siri to ask for the voices to access 
the app. She ever only gives me the forecasts.
- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Hello Dennis,
Who said this wasn’t an issue?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

To say this isn’t an issue is not correct.  I can reproduce Richards issue on 
iOS 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Weatherology iOS app

Richard,
This is quite interesting!  Do you know of any way I can get in touch with the 
developer? Maybe it is worth letting him know this.  Just a thought.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphon

RE: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

[janet gross]

Hello Everyone,  
Well, this is quite a shock to hear, as I had no idea Tim was even sick.  Tim 
was a wonderful human being, and very intelligent, he had a beautiful 
personality, he was always willing to help.  I use to call him teacher.  My 
heart goes out to his family as this has to be a huge loss for them.  

God Bless You Tim, May you rest in Peace!  

Janet 
-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

> It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
> Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a great 
> co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn't know it, then it 
> hadn't been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the years. He 
> taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, 
> TTJTech.biz, and MacForTheBlind we send our condolences to his wife and 
> Children. John Matt and I had great times with Tim, he had a one of a kind 
> since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in Peace, and we will see you on the 
> other side. Your life time Student.
> Kliph!
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Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone.
I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had to 
erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent folder 
of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now having is 
I can't set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it up, I keep getting a message 
saying my face is not in the frame, then I get a message saying Face ID can't 
detect any sun glasses put on sun glasses and try again, but I'm not wearing 
glasses.  Sometimes I get the message saying move my head to the right, and 
then move my head to  the left, move my head up.  I then get a message saying 
30  percent. 65 percent move head up, I move my head and it says Face ID not 
available try again later.  I checked in the detention feature and it is off.  
Can someone please tell me is there a new way of setting up Face ID in iOS 
16.2? I feel this is a real security threat not being able to use Face ID.  
When I am around people, when I am in the store, when I am in the doctor's 
office, I have to enter in my passcode using Voiceover, in which means everyone 
can hear my passcode.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Janet

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Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I've done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn't work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.

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Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
I'm sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I've done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn't work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Feliciano,
I've checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I've used this 
Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no problem, until I 
updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I've signed out of the Apple Music App, 
and signed back in with no different results.  I completely understand minor 
bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to the point of having to erase your 
entire phone, and still the phone doesn't work like it should, there  is 
something seriously wrong!

Janet
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it's set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I'm sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I've done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn't work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Arnold,
I was thinking I just might have to do that.  I can’t imagine how Apple let 
this one go through, but they did!

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 12:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Also, if everything works as it should except through your speaker, perhaps you 
need to tell your phone to forget this device, then pair it again.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jan 9, 2023, at 12:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it’s set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Joshua , 
Thank you for your thoughts!  

Janet  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 3:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Janet.  I have no idea why you are having so many problems with IOS 16.2.

On 1/9/23, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Hi Janet,
> Another thing
>
> To consider is checking if there’s new firmware update for your 
> speaker. I know you can do this for compatible Bose devices via Bose 
> connect app on iPhone. Other than that I imagine you removed the 
> device from your bluetooth settings and repaired it already.
> Feliciano
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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:23 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Feliciano,
> I’ve checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I’ve used 
> this Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no 
> problem, until I updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I’ve signed out 
> of the Apple Music App, and signed back in with no different results.  
> I completely understand minor bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to 
> the point of having to erase your entire phone, and still the phone 
> doesn’t work like it should, there is something seriously wrong!
>
> Janet
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Janet,
> I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. 
> First, I would check the setting that your speaker is set as via 
> Bluetooth settings and more info for your speaker. Set that device to 
> speaker as voiceover can behave differently if it’s set to another setting.
> Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your 
> rotor as your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many 
> prefer voiceover speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You 
> can add audio destination via your settings- Settings, accessibility, 
> voiceover followed by rotor.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Feliciano
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to 
> slip away before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas 
> to rectify my Apple Music and Bose Speaker?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as 
> well as with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple 
> Music will play on the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it 
> takes forever to play one song after the other, and I’ve done thi

Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn't have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet

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Apple Music and Bluetooth.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like an idiot, 
but I take that back.  I am still now having the same problem with Apple Music 
and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only with my Bose Sound Color speaker, 
but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  
The music just stops playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some 
times that just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I 
guess I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This is 
on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm right back where I started, just 
because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I also have 
problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can't raise the volume, so 
when I am on a important call, the other end can't hear  me, and I can't hardly 
hear them!  I keep raising the up volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear 
any musical tone from Siri, so I don't know when I can ask him a question.  I 
ask him to set my alarm, and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the 
App store to download one!  This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad 
to have all this happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes 
to show just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!

Janet

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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

[janet gross]

Hi Feliciano,

I’m  sorry to say, but my Bluetooth issue came back.  Although, I am finding my 
Bluetooth Bose Speaker stops playing only when I am listening to certain Apple 
play list, but not all play list that I have created some years ago.  I’ve 
listened to Apple Music with my Bose Speaker, my Sony 400 Ear Buds, my Power 
Beats Ear Pods, the phone by its self, meaning without any Speakers, and the 
Apple Music still stops playing.  But, like I said only with certain play lists 
 ,  I listen to.  I find this quite unusual as well.  Thank you for your 
encouragement it is greatly appreciated.I think I might need to do 
something to the play lists, just not for sure yet.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross 
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Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet
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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

[janet gross]

Hello Sieghard,
I have no problem with sense of directions.  I don’t have to make an effort to 
look at people including the phone, as that still comes natural to me, maybe 
because I was sighted most of my live so I don’t have any problem with looking 
directly at  anything.  As people don’t even believe I’m Blind including some 
of my own family members.  There has been several times I’ve had to show 
verification to prove I am really Blind.  But, in either case that is how it is 
with me.  I stand completely straight, I walk completely straight, my head is 
completely straight up.My eyes are clear and wide open as well.  The rep 
also had a hard time seeing my face, as he said that is the way the Camera is 
seeing me.  Matter of fact, all he could see was the left side of my face just 
a little.  He kept saying it is to dark, even though, I had the lights on.   I 
was outside earlier trying to set up the Face Id, but I couldn’t set up Face ID 
because I was holding the phone in front of my face.  I set up Face ID at least 
three times with the same phone, and the same body and head, with no problem.  
A person would have to have a complete disfigured body to set up the phone in 
the way I had to sit in order to enable Face ID.  The main problem was the way 
the phone was seeing me, and that was in a  extremely unusual way.  Now, could 
the main problem be because of the way the phone seen me, in which this makes 
me wonder just how the phone does see me as far as Security, I don’t know. Is 
there something wrong with my Camera, I don’t know.  Could it be because I had 
my Screen Curtain on at the same time I was trying to enable Face Id, I don’t 
know, could have something accidentally gone wrong during the update, I don’t 
know.  Ok now Sieghard, sit in a chair, tilt your head to the left, and look 
down as if you are trying to look at your left hip, with you holding the phone 
down very close to your left thigh.  Smile!  In any case, I do have Face ID 
working.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Janet, not everybody has the same sense of direction and for some blind people 
it is really difficult o look at something, to walk in a reasonably straight 
line and so on.
I think maybe the Apple rep had some experience with this and found that asking 
people to hold the phone this way and looking down was the best way to get them 
to look the right way.
I just set up my iPhone 13 Pro last week and for me it was fine to  hold the 
camera more or less at arms length, of course I did have my elbow bent a bit so 
the phone wasn't too far away, but this worked fine for me. I have been blind 
for a long time now, I am 55 and lost my sight in an accident when I was 16, 
but I try to make an effort to look at people when I speak to them and I have 
had conversations with customers at my store who didn't know me and who never 
realized for the first minute or two that I couldn't see.
It's good Apple Accessibility could help and hopefully you feel a bit less mad 
at iOS 16.2 since it obviously turned out that it was not the culpret 😂

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet
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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

[janet gross]

Feliciano,
Now, you could very well be on to something here.  I’ve heard an error message 
several times when playing one of my play list.  I’ve also heard messages about 
this song is no longer available in your country, and then I get an ok button.  
So, if I’m not in the room and hear that message, the song just won’t play, and 
I would think the music stopped.  Thank you for this, as I will need to start 
paying attention more.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Janet,
There are occasions where artists remove songs from a streaming service. It 
could be a case here with your said playlists. Typically, they are marked as 
error when going through the playlist. You may want to review the playlist and 
delete the song and see if you experience the issues you are having. 
Additionally, it could be a song that you potentially ripped (put onto your 
computer) that can be found via apple music library section. Same can be done 
where you can delete it if there is an error.

Worth a shot here.
Hope that helps.

Feliciano

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Feliciano,

I’m  sorry to say, but my Bluetooth issue came back.  Although, I am finding my 
Bluetooth Bose Speaker stops playing only when I am listening to certain Apple 
play list, but not all play list that I have created some years ago.  I’ve 
listened to Apple Music with my Bose Speaker, my Sony 400 Ear Buds, my Power 
Beats Ear Pods, the phone by its self, meaning without any Speakers, and the 
Apple Music still stops playing.  But, like I said only with certain play lists 
 ,  I listen to.  I find this quite unusual as well.  Thank you for your 
encouragement it is greatly appreciated.I think I might need to do 
something to the play lists, just not for sure yet.

Janet
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross 
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Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the p

RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

[janet gross]

Hello Sieghard, 
I have excellent hearing, and this Siri I can not hear the musical tone like I 
did before I upgraded to 16.2!  I don't know when to ask her a question or not. 
 As far as I am concerned Siri was broke with 16.2!  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is when I speak to 
quickly. I know the current Siri tone is harder to hear for people with hearing 
loss so hopefully Apple will hear these people and change it again or even 
introduce haptic feedback like when you press and hold the digital crown on the 
Apple watch, but it definitely works much better if you give it that 1 1000 
count after the tone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Mark,
Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have a 
certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device instead 
of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, because 
this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
> resolving your Play List problem.
> 
> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken requests, 
> I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you wait a 
> full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you can get 
> in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as consistent 
> as it was in previous versions of the OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
> playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 
> 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re 
> linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my 
> iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
> understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
> 
> 
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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

[janet gross]

Hi Mary, 
Amen to that!  I also have an iPhone XR, and I am experiencing the exact same 
problems you are too.  

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Mark,
Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have a 
certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device instead 
of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, because 
this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
> resolving your Play List problem.
> 
> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken requests, 
> I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you wait a 
> full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you can get 
> in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as consistent 
> as it was in previous versions of the OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple of 
> playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old iPhone 
> 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because they’re 
> linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it works. On my 
> iPad mini six, these playlists are not there. Why the heck not? I just don’t 
> understand what the heck is going on with Apple.
> Between the totally erratic behavior of Siri, half of the time, claiming it 
> doesn’t have an app I want to launch, which I actually have, and the fact 
> that when I say something like launch music, it starts playing some thing I 
> don’t want rather than launching the Music app, I really think iOS 16 is 
> loaded with bugs that need to be stumped and I don’t get it. Come on Apple. 
> We pay big bucks for these phones and iPads. Clean it up!
> 
> 
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RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad mini

[janet gross]

Mary, 
I've never had this problem with either of my phones, until I upgraded to this 
16.2.  I regret ever upgrading to 16.2!  I've never had so many problems with 
either of my phones until I upgraded to 16.2.  I have a very serious problem 
with my Apple Play lists as well, I disconnected all my Bluetooth devices from 
the phone, and had to reconnect them again.  I can't even get Siri to set my 
alarm clock.  This is nuts!  I upgraded to 16.2, and I had to erase my entire 
phone, I had to rename the phone, I lost all my phone calls in my recent folder 
in the phone app.  I don't know what else to do.  I was seriously considering 
buying the new iPhone 14, but I quickly changed my mine.  I can't raise or 
lower the volume on the phone, so when I am talking on the phone, people keep 
saying they can't hear me, and there isn't anything I can do about that either! 
 

Janet 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
mini

Hi Janet,
It’s very interesting about that tone. It seems to me that because I can hear 
it sometimes and not other times, there might be something going on with audio 
ducking. It seems to me like voice over having been speaking, just as I pressed 
the side button to invoke Siri is somehow responsible for not hearing the tone. 
Therefore, I am wondering about that audio ducking. The problem does not ever 
occur with iOS 15 on my old phone and did not occur on iOS 15 with this 10 R 
phone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 4:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sieghard, 
> I have excellent hearing, and this Siri I can not hear the musical tone like 
> I did before I upgraded to 16.2!  I don't know when to ask her a question or 
> not.  As far as I am concerned Siri was broke with 16.2!  
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 2:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
> mini
> 
> I find the main cause right now when Siri misunderstands me is when I speak 
> to quickly. I know the current Siri tone is harder to hear for people with 
> hearing loss so hopefully Apple will hear these people and change it again or 
> even introduce haptic feedback like when you press and hold the digital crown 
> on the Apple watch, but it definitely works much better if you give it that 1 
> 1000 count after the tone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
> mini
> 
> Hi Mark,
> Well, I have been trying to do that, wait and wait some more and then make my 
> request. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times it’s crazy. Siri is just not 
> very reliable. In terms of launching apps. It will tell me that I don’t have 
> a certain nap, maybe twice in a row before finally launching the app. I don’t 
> know what they’ve done. Maybe it’s processing the request on the device 
> instead of in the cloud. That would certainly make up for some thing maybe, 
> because this phone is a 10 R, which is not exactly new. Whatever it is, it’s 
> annoying.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2023, at 10:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> As I do not have an Apple Music subscription, I cannot assist you in 
>> resolving your Play List problem.
>> 
>> However, as far as Siri's seemingly random responses to your spoken 
>> requests, I suggest that, after pressing the Siri button on your device, you 
>> wait a full second after you hear the audio prompt, before speaking.  If you 
>> can get in the habit of doing this, I think you will find that Siri is as 
>> consistent as it was in previous versions of the OS.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 9:02 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Recently created Apple Music play lists don’t show up on my iPad 
>> mini
>> 
>> The subject line pretty much says it all. I have recently created a couple 
>> of playlists on my iPhone XR. They show up there. They show up on my old 
>> iPhone 7 Plus. And they play just fine on my Amazon eight devices because 
>> they’re linked to Apple Music and I can say play my playlist, XYZ and it 
>> works.

Phone Messages Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
When I  first updated to iOS 16.2, I lost all my recent phone messages, I had 
to erase my XR phone, and got all my recent phone messages back from iCloud 
back up.  Ok now, I recently noticed I lost those phone messages again.  Any 
ideas how to stop losing my phone messages, and how can I now get them back 
again? I looked in messages through the settings I don't see any setting to 
keep my messages forever like I use to see before, or am I confusing this 
setting with another setting?


Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet
Janet

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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[janet gross]

Hello Everyone,
I am running a XR phone iOS 16.3.1.  When my phone is unlocked, and I switch 
the mute button off, Samantha says muted, when I switch back she says unmuted, 
which is right.  But, when my phone is locked, I press the mute button off, and 
Samantha says nothing, I press the mute button the other way, Samantha says 
nothing.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi Richard, I get the same results as you. And I'm running a 14.
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On Mar 1, 2023, at 9:24 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Mark,
That is not my experience at all.
It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
I just retested it.
For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.




Richard, USA.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny's post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone was 
both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, "Unmuted."

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all is 
well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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[janet gross]

Can someone please let me know if this message makes it to the list? I am 
getting undeliverable messages from Gmail.

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Wi-Fi Downloading VS Celular.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me when downloading an update using cellular will the 
download take a long time, or will it take the same amount of time when 
downloading with Wi-Fi? I can't keep my Wi-Fi connections on my XR iPhone 
16.6.1 for some strange reason.  I've just talked to Apple support, and we 
thought we had it rectified, but as soon as we hung up the phone, I lost my 
Wi-Fi connections again.  The Apple rep and I turned on Airplane mode, and 
restarted the phone, turned Airplane mode back off, turned on Wi-Fi again, and 
all was well, until we hung up the phone.  The Apple rep suggested I download 
the 16.7 update to see if that would help.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Janet


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RE: testing.

[janet gross]

Please now ignore this particular test message, as I now can send a message.

Janet

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Can someone please let me know if this message makes it to the list? I am 
getting undeliverable messages from Gmail.

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Wi-Fi Conections.

[janet gross]

Hello All,
Ok now, I see the different opinions about my question Wi-Fi downloading vs 
cellular, so thank you all.  Ok, my next question is does anyone have any 
suggestions is how to correct my losing  Wi-Fi on my phone running iPhone XR 
16.6.1? It looks like I might have to reset my network settings for some stupid 
reason, in which no one knows why.  I have very good Wi-Fi download as well as 
upload, and all my other devices connected to Wi-Fi are all working fine except 
my phone.

Thank you all for any more suggestions!

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RE: Wi-Fi Conections.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
I've done exactly what you are saying here, several times, but the Wi-Fi just 
keeps losing connection!  I've never had this issue before either.  This just 
came out of a clear blue sky!  I hate the thought of having to reset my network 
settings, but it looks like I might have to.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 7:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Wi-Fi Conections.

Try turning wi-fi off on your phone.
Reboot the phone.
Turn it on again and then turn on Wi-Fi.

If that doesn't work, then probably trying just reset network settings could be 
the answer.

Also, make sure you are closer to the router perhaps?




Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Wi-Fi Conections.

Hello All,
Ok now, I see the different opinions about my question Wi-Fi downloading vs 
cellular, so thank you all.  Ok, my next question is does anyone have any 
suggestions is how to correct my losing  Wi-Fi on my phone running iPhone XR 
16.6.1? It looks like I might have to reset my network settings for some stupid 
reason, in which no one knows why.  I have very good Wi-Fi download as well as 
upload, and all my other devices connected to Wi-Fi are all working fine except 
my phone.

Thank you all for any more suggestions!

Janet
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RE: Wi-Fi Downloading VS Celular.

[janet gross]

Hi,
I have very good Wi-Fi for downloading as well as uploading, except now and 
only with my phone.  I will count myself fortunate!  It just isn't doing me any 
good right now!  I have determined this issue is on the phone and only the 
phone.

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 7:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi Downloading VS Celular.

Richard, I believe you, but that isn't true in my case.  My WIFI that I have is 
really crappy and isn't that good.  I do have unlimited cellular data, and I do 
use it when watching movies, streaming music, or downloading audio books.  I 
wish my WIFI and internet were better, but they aren't.  My internet is bad 
also.  I can only download at around 700 KBPS and I'm lucky if I can upload at 
80 KBPS, so don't do that often.  Those of you who have good WIFI count 
yourselves fortunate, because everyone doesn't have blazing fast WIFI.  Never 
get frontier internet like we have at my house.

On 10/3/23, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Generally speaking, Wi-Fi is much faster than cellular. And, unless
> you have unlimited cellular data, you may need to wait for Wi-Fi.
>
> Richard, USA
> ——
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>> On Oct 3, 2023, at 4:11 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Can someone please tell me when downloading an update using cellular
>> will the download take a long time, or will it take the same amount
>> of time when downloading with Wi-Fi? I can’t keep my Wi-Fi
>> connections on my XR iPhone 16.6.1 for some strange reason.  I’ve
>> just talked to Apple support, and we thought we had it rectified, but
>> as soon as we hung up the phone, I lost my Wi-Fi connections again.
>> The Apple rep and I turned on Airplane mode, and restarted the phone,
>> turned Airplane mode back off, turned on Wi-Fi again, and all was
>> well, until we hung up the phone.  The Apple rep suggested I download the 
>> 16.7 update to see if that would help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Janet
>>
>>
>>
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Cellular VS Wi-Fi On Phone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
I have another question regarding Wi-Fi vs cellular.  What would the advantages 
or the disadvantages of just using my cellular on my phone would be?   I still 
don't know yet why my Wi-Fi connections keep losing the Wi-Fi connections 
though.  I just called my phone carrier T-Mobile, and the rep who I talked to 
said why even bother with the Wi-Fi because I have an unlimited plan.  So just 
out of curiosity, I'm wondering.  Apple recommend I reset my Network settings, 
T-Mobile recommends not even bother with the Wi-Fi.  I haven't called my 
internet provider ATT yet to ask about why suddenly my Wi-Fi connections are 
not holding only on my phone.  I haven't yet downloaded the iOS  16.46.1  to 
know about the download speed  though.


Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Janet

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RE: Cellular VS Wi-Fi On Phone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
Apple did run the diagnostic test, and found no hardware issues at all.  This 
is a real strange one to say the least!  I do know my network information, I 
just thought if I could at least know what suddenly  happened, meaning why 
doesn’t my phone keep the Wi-Fi settings as it always has.  but it doesn’t look 
like I will ever know that though, and no one else knows for sure either!  I 
sure dread having to do the network reset though.  I guess I will just have to 
add this to my mystery bag!  I’m now curious if resetting the network settings, 
will that make a difference.  Thank you.

Janet


Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cellular VS Wi-Fi On Phone Question Please.

I would do the following:
Contact Apple and see if they could run a diagnostic to check your wi-fi 
antenna on your phone to see if it could be a hardware failure.
Then, I would go ahead and reset the network settings so long as you know your 
router SSID and password.
Since it is only your iPhone that is having issues, I doubt that your internet 
service will have a clue.


Richard, USA
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On Oct 4, 2023, at 1:29 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I have another question regarding Wi-Fi vs cellular.  What would the advantages 
or the disadvantages of just using my cellular on my phone would be?   I still 
don’t know yet why my Wi-Fi connections keep losing the Wi-Fi connections 
though.  I just called my phone carrier T-Mobile, and the rep who I talked to 
said why even bother with the Wi-Fi because I have an unlimited plan.  So just 
out of curiosity, I’m wondering.  Apple recommend I reset my Network settings, 
T-Mobile recommends not even bother with the Wi-Fi.  I haven’t called my 
internet provider ATT yet to ask about why suddenly my Wi-Fi connections are 
not holding only on my phone.  I haven’t yet downloaded the iOS  16.46.1  to 
know about the download speed  though.


Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Janet
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I'm sorry, but I've been trying to reply to some emails, and I'm not seeing my 
emails coming through.

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My Wi-Fi Issue Has Been Resolved.

[janet gross]

Hi All,
For those who might be curious about what I ended up having to do to resolve my 
Wi-Fi issue.  I had to finally reset my Network settings, and then all was well.

Thank you all for who was replying, but I tried to reply to Richard and 
Sieghard, but I never did see my replies on the list.  Reason being I started 
having MS 365 issues!
  Again, thank you all for all your help.

Janet

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Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

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Hi Everyone,
I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I'm wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I've scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can't understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[janet gross]

Hi Lisa,
Yes, that is what I want to keep the original format for sighted people.  I 
will now scan and save in PDF format for the sighted people.  I will then scan 
and save in text and send it to my Computer, so I can read it myself.

Thank you so much, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 4:56 PM
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Hi, Janet.  If you're positive that the whole letter has been scanned, PDF is 
your best bet.  A text only copy would remove most formatting if that is what 
you're wanting to preserve.





Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com<mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>
On 10/16/2023 4:50 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I'm wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I've scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can't understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
I'm going to scan those letters, and I will scan  them in text so I can send 
them to my Computer so I can read them myself.  I will then scan them and save 
in PDF format for sighted people.  I just don't understand why I can read most 
PDF files with Adobe, but not these  letters.  As far as I know these letters 
were just typed on a Computer.  So I don't think there is anything fancy about 
the letters.

Thank you so much.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

If the content is the most important thing, text files can be read by sighted 
folks.
If you are trying to come close to the original format, then save it as PDF and 
make sure the name means something to you.
If you cannot read the PDF with your screen reader, contact Winston Chen.
Or, save it first as PDF for the sighted people who you want to read it, then 
as text for yourself.

HTH,


Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

Hi Everyone,
I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I'm wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I've scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can't understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[janet gross]

Hi Sieghard,
Yes, I am concerned about the disability aspect , as I need to keep these 
letters for future references, so I will need to read them from time to time.  
Although, I think your on to something when you say if I save these letters 
with VDScan it might change the format.  I had a sighted person from his office 
to just use his printer-scanner to scan the letters, and email them to me, and 
I can now read them just fine on my Computer, but not if I scan and save with 
VDScan though.  So this is something I just learned.
Thank you.

Janet
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

If you are not concerned with accessibility simply take a picture of the letter 
and send it to your sighted contacts.
If you use VD Scan the formatting may be different and of course any fonts, 
underlined items and so on would be lost.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

Hi Everyone,
I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I'm wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I've scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can't understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

[janet gross]

HI Sieghard,
Does this Peep hole camera take a picture of who is at the door?

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Ring also has a peepphole doorbell camera which you can install in an apartment 
door which has a standard peephole and I guess if it didn't have a peephole 
then all it would take is a cordless drill and the correct sized drill bit. Of 
course you may need permission; definitely one benefit of owning one's house, 
you can do what you want.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Awwe love cats. I would love to get a ring door bell not sure about getting one 
for an apartment so think I will wait until moving into a house, where it can 
be installed and I not have to worry about uninstalling it for a while.

On 10/23/23, Ronnie Baxter Jr  wrote:
> dnut
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 3:18 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> I personally like wired versions of such devices, but if you don't
>> live in a place where it gets really cold like it does up here in
>> Northwestern British Columbia you are probably fine with a
>> battery-powered model.
>> Having
>> said this, if you have a traditional doorbell right now chances are
>> it would be a relatively simple thing to get a wired Ring doorbell
>> hooked up.
>>
>> The app is fine but has a few issues, one is that if you switch to
>> live view Voiceover speech moves to the Earpiece, makes it difficult
>> to deal with and a situation where using a headset comes in handy. It
>> also definitely takes practice if you want to be able to answer a
>> doorbell press quickly enough so the persojn at your door hasn't
>> walked away. I always thought it must be an Apple limitation which
>> doesn't allow you to answer a Ring notification like a phone call
>> evben from the lock screen where as soon as you tap on the
>> notification it connects you to your doorbell.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *paekstr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:44 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> We are considering buying a Ring doorbell, and looking at the
>> available models on Amazon is somewhat overwhelming at first glance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone comment on the initial installation of the doorbell,
>> accessibility of the app, usefulness with Alexa, etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have recommendations for a specific model, that would be great.
>> We
>> have only used the old fashioned type of doorbells, so are not yet
>> familiar with these guys.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are there any major accessibility issues with the app?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much,
>>
>> Pam
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Apple and Goldman Sachs.

[janet gross]

9to5Mac - Friday, October 20, 2023 at 11:09 AM

Apple and Goldman Sachs: A timeline of the messy partnership that might soon 
fall apart



Given recent reports that Goldman Sachs is looking to bail on its partnership 
with Apple, I thought it would be interesting to do a breakdown of the 
increasingly messy relationship between the two companies. After forging their 
partnership in 2019, Apple appears to have thrived while Goldman Sachs has 
suffered.

Updated October 20, 2023 with new details

The origins of Apple Card and Goldman Sachs



News of Apple's partnership with Goldman Sachs first emerged in February 2019 
from the Wall Street Journal. That's the same news outlet that is now reporting 
on Goldman's effort to back out of the deal and pass it off to American Express.

Apple announced Apple Card during its services-focused special event one month 
later at Steve Jobs Theater. The company also unveiled Apple TV+, Apple Arcade, 
Apple News+, and more during this event.

Apple Card launched to the general public in August 2019, allowing users to 
apply for the card and check their credit lines and approval status without a 
hard credit check.

A report a few months later revealed some early details on Goldman's investment 
in Apple Card. By all indications, it was a successful launch, with Tim Cook 
touting during an October 2019 earnings call that it was the "most successful 
launch of a credit card in the United States ever."

During that same earnings call, Tim Cook announced that Apple Card users would 
be able to finance iPhone purchases over 24 months with 0% interest. As the 
backing bank behind Apple Card, Goldman Sachs was on the hook for funding these 
loans. The new financing option launched to the public in December.

Allegations of Apple Card gender bias



In November 2019, however, there was a flareup of controversy surrounding Apple 
Card after allegations of gender bias emerged. Essentially, Apple Card users 
had noticed that gender discrimination was affecting the algorithms used to 
determine credit limits for Apple Card.

During this controversy, which led to multiple regulatory investigations, Apple 
stayed completely silent. Goldman Sachs issued multiple statements on the 
matter, explaining that the bank was "committed to ensuring our credit decision 
process is fair."

The bank shouldered all of the burdens of the controversy, which isn't 
surprising given that Goldman Sachs is the one who makes approval decisions for 
Apple Card. Still, I'm sure Goldman Sachs would have appreciated a little more 
public-facing support from Apple.

Apple Card financing and COVID-19

Moving ahead to 2020, Apple and Goldman Sachs expanded the 0% financing offer 
to the rest of Apple's product lineup in June, including Mac, iPad, AirPods 
Pro, AirPods, Apple Pencil, and more.

Throughout 2020 amid the COVID-19 pandemic, Goldman Sachs allowed Apple Card 
users to defer their payments without interest. This was billed as the 
"Customer Assistance Program" and repeatedly extended through late 2020.

Other changes to Apple Card in 2020 included:

Apple Card Family

In 2021, Apple Card got a major boost with the launch of Apple Card Family. 
This addressed one of the longtime limitations of the platform and finally 
enabled users to share the same Apple Card with other family members via iCloud 
Family Sharing.

Also in 2021, Apple touted the ongoing success of Apple Card, citing a JD Power 
Study that found the card to rank "among the Midsize Credit Card segment and 
received a chart-topping score of 864."

Other Apple Card and Goldman Sachs stories from 2021:

Signs of struggle for Goldman Sachs emerge



While Apple Card continued to grow in popularity, with over 6 million estimated 
cardholders, some early signs of struggle began to emerge.

In May 2022, Scott Young, a Goldman Sachs executive credited for his work 
securing the Apple Card deal, left the bank. Young was Goldman's head of 
partnerships in 2018, which is when Goldman and Apple reached an agreement to 
work together on Apple Card.

Next, Goldman Sachs announced that it was facing a probe from the Consumer 
Financial Protection Bureau over its consumer credit card business. The Apple 
Card's "rapid growth" and Goldman's struggle managing and scaling that growth 
were to blame for the investigation.

One of the primary focuses of that investigation was Goldman's handling of 
Apple Card disputes. A dispute, or chargeback, is when a customer files a 
chargeback on a transaction, either because it was unauthorized or because the 
goods or services were not as the merchant described.

Goldman received "more disputes than it counted on" from Apple Card customers, 
and it struggled to manage that growth - especially given all of the regulatory 
requirements that surround credit card disputes. The problem was so bad that 
Apple and Goldman Sachs even gave customers a second chance at disputing 
transactions after complaints.

In October 2019,

RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

[janet gross]

Hi Carolyn,
Is Sharon totally blind? How did she know in the picture it was Buddy? Did she 
have some way or maybe I should say did she have a device to describe Buddy to 
her?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

The Doorbell does take a picture. This is why Sharon knew the first time Buddy 
the dog came.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

HI Sieghard,
Does this Peep hole camera take a picture of who is at the door?

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Ring also has a peepphole doorbell camera which you can install in an apartment 
door which has a standard peephole and I guess if it didn't have a peephole 
then all it would take is a cordless drill and the correct sized drill bit. Of 
course you may need permission; definitely one benefit of owning one's house, 
you can do what you want.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Awwe love cats. I would love to get a ring door bell not sure about getting one 
for an apartment so think I will wait until moving into a house, where it can 
be installed and I not have to worry about uninstalling it for a while.

On 10/23/23, Ronnie Baxter Jr  wrote:
> dnut
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 3:18 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> I personally like wired versions of such devices, but if you don't
>> live in a place where it gets really cold like it does up here in
>> Northwestern British Columbia you are probably fine with a
>> battery-powered model.
>> Having
>> said this, if you have a traditional doorbell right now chances are
>> it would be a relatively simple thing to get a wired Ring doorbell
>> hooked up.
>>
>> The app is fine but has a few issues, one is that if you switch to
>> live view Voiceover speech moves to the Earpiece, makes it difficult
>> to deal with and a situation where using a headset comes in handy. It
>> also definitely takes practice if you want to be able to answer a
>> doorbell press quickly enough so the persojn at your door hasn't
>> walked away. I always thought it must be an Apple limitation which
>> doesn't allow you to answer a Ring notification like a phone call
>> evben from the lock screen where as soon as you tap on the
>> notification it connects you to your doorbell.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *paekstr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:44 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> We are considering buying a Ring doorbell, and looking at the
>> available models on Amazon is somewhat overwhelming at first glance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone comment on the initial installation of the doorbell,
>> accessibility of the app, usefulness with Alexa, etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have recommendations for a specific model, that would be great.
>> We
>> have only used the old fashioned type of doorbells, so are not yet
>> familiar with these guys.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are there any major accessibility issues with the app?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much,
>>
>> Pam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

[janet gross]

Carolyn,
I just noticed your email and my email. Are we talking about the same thing? I 
was asking about the peephole, and are you talking about the ring door bell?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

The Doorbell does take a picture. This is why Sharon knew the first time Buddy 
the dog came.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

HI Sieghard,
Does this Peep hole camera take a picture of who is at the door?

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Ring also has a peepphole doorbell camera which you can install in an apartment 
door which has a standard peephole and I guess if it didn't have a peephole 
then all it would take is a cordless drill and the correct sized drill bit. Of 
course you may need permission; definitely one benefit of owning one's house, 
you can do what you want.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Awwe love cats. I would love to get a ring door bell not sure about getting one 
for an apartment so think I will wait until moving into a house, where it can 
be installed and I not have to worry about uninstalling it for a while.

On 10/23/23, Ronnie Baxter Jr  wrote:
> dnut
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 3:18 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> I personally like wired versions of such devices, but if you don't
>> live in a place where it gets really cold like it does up here in
>> Northwestern British Columbia you are probably fine with a
>> battery-powered model.
>> Having
>> said this, if you have a traditional doorbell right now chances are
>> it would be a relatively simple thing to get a wired Ring doorbell
>> hooked up.
>>
>> The app is fine but has a few issues, one is that if you switch to
>> live view Voiceover speech moves to the Earpiece, makes it difficult
>> to deal with and a situation where using a headset comes in handy. It
>> also definitely takes practice if you want to be able to answer a
>> doorbell press quickly enough so the persojn at your door hasn't
>> walked away. I always thought it must be an Apple limitation which
>> doesn't allow you to answer a Ring notification like a phone call
>> evben from the lock screen where as soon as you tap on the
>> notification it connects you to your doorbell.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *paekstr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:44 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> We are considering buying a Ring doorbell, and looking at the
>> available models on Amazon is somewhat overwhelming at first glance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone comment on the initial installation of the doorbell,
>> accessibility of the app, usefulness with Alexa, etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have recommendations for a specific model, that would be great.
>> We
>> have only used the old fashioned type of doorbells, so are not yet
>> familiar with these guys.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are there any major accessibility issues with the app?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks much,
>>
>> Pam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

[janet gross]

Hi Robin,
Thank you for this as this is good to know.

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App

Hi,

I can tell my Echo Dot 5th gen to answer my front door and can then communicate 
with whomever is there through it with no trouble.  I could also do this with 
the 4th gen dots and the 4th gen regular Echo as well.
No screen needed.


Take good care,

Robin



On 10/23/2023 2:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Less good than one would expect, even if you tell your Echo Show to answer a 
> doorbell ring, the microphone is still disabled so you would have to make 
> sure the Echo Show's screenreader is turned on and then try to find the 
> microphone button and enable it so you can talk to the person at the door.
> If anybody has different information like how one can do all this by voice or 
> if there is a setting where the microphone is on by default when you tell the 
> Show to answer a doorbell call then I'd love to know how it's done.
> I also find it silly that Amazon doesn't allow speakers without a screen to 
> answer a doorbell call, I mean you could still use it as an intercom and us 
> blind folks couldn't care less if there were video or not, but once again to 
> my knowledge you can only link an Echo Show to a doorbell.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App
>
> I would like to know how it works with an Echo. When my son has some time off 
> around Thanksgiving, we are going to set up my Show and my Dot.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App
>
> Thanks, Sieghard.  Do you use it with the Alexa products?
>
>
>
> Do you get any kind of a notification if a package is dropped off at your 
> door and they don't ring the doorbell?
>
>
>
> We were also looking at a similar product made by Wyze, if anyone has any 
> experience with that company.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App
>
>
>
> I personally like wired versions of such devices, but if you don't live in a 
> place where it gets really cold like it does up here in Northwestern British 
> Columbia you are probably fine with a battery-powered model. Having said 
> this, if you have a traditional doorbell right now chances are it would be a 
> relatively simple thing to get a wired Ring doorbell hooked up.
>
> The app is fine but has a few issues, one is that if you switch to live view 
> Voiceover speech moves to the Earpiece, makes it difficult to deal with and a 
> situation where using a headset comes in handy. It also definitely takes 
> practice if you want to be able to answer a doorbell press quickly enough so 
> the persojn at your door hasn't walked away. I always thought it must be an 
> Apple limitation which doesn't allow you to answer a Ring notification like a 
> phone call evben from the lock screen where as soon as you tap on the 
> notification it connects you to your doorbell.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
> Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com 
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Thoughts on the Ring Doorbell and App
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> We are considering buying a Ring doorbell, and looking at the available 
> models on Amazon is somewhat overwhelming at first glance.
>
>
>
> Can anyone comment on the initial installation of the doorbell, accessibility 
> of the app, usefulness with Alexa, etc.?
>
>
>
> If you have recommendations for a specific model, that would be great.  We 
> have only used the old fashioned type of doorbells, so are not yet familiar 
> with these guys.
>
>
>
> Are there any major accessibility issues with the app?
>
>
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Pam
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

[janet gross]

Hi All,
Microsoft has had this calling option through the Be My Eyes app on the iPhone 
for quite a while, but the only difference I guess is now people will use the 
BE My AI.
I don’t know if this new change has anything to do with calling the MS 
disability help desk though.
So, please correct me if I am wrong.


Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the 
Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

This sounds very interesting and since it is clearly stated that it does not 
replace the option to speak with an actual person I would say this is probably 
a good addition.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 9:45 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Fwd: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, 
the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

I'm not sure I want AI handling my Microsoft accessibility issues but at least 
the below states a live person can be requested. Thought the list might be 
interested in the below announcement.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
From: Mike from Be My Eyes mailto:no-re...@bemyeyes.com>>
Date: November 15, 2023 at 10:59:11 AM CST
To: Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the 
Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes
Reply-To: no-re...@bemyeyes.com


Read it online

Hi Alan,

We are excited to announce a new feature for Be My Eyes Specialized Help: 
Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI.

The introduction of Be My AI to Microsoft’s offering on Be My Eyes opens the 
door to a revolutionary new way to get immediate assistance through Specialized 
Help. To visit Microsoft’s profile, open the Be My Eyes app, and navigate to 
Specialized Help. Here you can select “Technical” and click on Microsoft to 
open their profile on Be My Eyes. You can now tap on the new “Chat with Be My 
AI” button on Microsoft’s profile and ask any question through a text message! 
Blind users of Be My Eyes will always have the option to use traditional human 
conversations with a Microsoft agent.

Whether you need to set up your new Microsoft account, reboot your laptop, or 
install and update software, Microsoft’s AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk can 
assist you with a number of tasks. This new service from Microsoft on Be My 
Eyes is available to all iOS users and is coming soon for Android devices. You 
can reach out to Microsoft’s AI-Powered Disability Answer 24/7 from over 150 
countries worldwide. The service is currently available in English.

You can learn more about Microsoft’s AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on our 
new blog post Introducing Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on Be 
My 
Eyes

PS: Do you know someone who can benefit from this new service? Make sure to 
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VDscanner and Be My AI

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
I've been struggling with Voice Dream Scanner for at least a few hours. I am 
trying to send to my inbox what I scanned with VDS from the VDS app, and what 
I've scanned was my Router information.   I check my inbox but nothing shows up.
I used VDS to scan and sent it to my email inbox several times, with no 
problems, but just not today.
 Can someone please tell me what I must be doing wrong?
The scanned information  consist of 8 pages, in which is 5.8 MB in size.  Does 
that sound like to large for VDS to send to an email?
I've saved the information  format in txt as well as PDF, but still I don't get 
the email in my inbox.
I have to tell you all, this really just blew  my mind, when I seen an option 
to have Be My AI to read the information  to me, so just out of curiosity, I 
had Be My AI to read it to me, and it sure enough read everything!
I got a message after I tapped on the option  to use Be My AI to read this scan 
to me, saying please wait Be My AI chat is reading.
I quickly  heard Be My AI reading the scan image to me, and after that, I heard 
a message saying if I want to reply to use the edit field!
Well again, out of curiosity, I sent an message back to Be My AI, thanking  
them, and I quickly  got a message back saying I was welcome!
Although, I have the Be My Eyes app on my iPhone, but I haven't downloaded the 
Be My AI app yet.
I was really blown away to see that feature in the VDS options though.
I am using BDS version 2.0.3 2000300

I would greatly appreciate some ideas how to send this info to my inbox.

Janet

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RE: VDscanner and Be My AI

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
I accidentally misspelled the VDS meaning Voice Dream Scanner.
Yes, I've heard a little about the Be My AI, but I was blown away to see that 
Be My AI option in the VDS app.
So you're not for sure though why I can't send what I scanned other than maybe 
my internet provider.

Thank you.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VDscanner and Be My AI

Some Internet Service Providers cap the size of emails at 5 MB, so you may not 
be able to send it as one file.
The Be My AI is a tab within Be My Eyes.

What is BDF?




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: VDscanner and Be My AI

Hi Everyone,
I've been struggling with Voice Dream Scanner for at least a few hours. I am 
trying to send to my inbox what I scanned with VDS from the VDS app, and what 
I've scanned was my Router information.   I check my inbox but nothing shows up.
I used VDS to scan and sent it to my email inbox several times, with no 
problems, but just not today.
 Can someone please tell me what I must be doing wrong?
The scanned information  consist of 8 pages, in which is 5.8 MB in size.  Does 
that sound like to large for VDS to send to an email?
I've saved the information  format in txt as well as PDF, but still I don't get 
the email in my inbox.
I have to tell you all, this really just blew  my mind, when I seen an option 
to have Be My AI to read the information  to me, so just out of curiosity, I 
had Be My AI to read it to me, and it sure enough read everything!
I got a message after I tapped on the option  to use Be My AI to read this scan 
to me, saying please wait Be My AI chat is reading.
I quickly  heard Be My AI reading the scan image to me, and after that, I heard 
a message saying if I want to reply to use the edit field!
Well again, out of curiosity, I sent an message back to Be My AI, thanking  
them, and I quickly  got a message back saying I was welcome!
Although, I have the Be My Eyes app on my iPhone, but I haven't downloaded the 
Be My AI app yet.
I was really blown away to see that feature in the VDS options though.
I am using BDS version 2.0.3 2000300

I would greatly appreciate some ideas how to send this info to my inbox.

Janet
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RE: VDscanner and Be My AI

[janet gross]

Richard,
I’m talking about the option to use Be My AI in the VDS app.
When I selected to save it in PDF or txt ETC, and name it,
Then look for the option to send it as mail, message, or save it to VDS, ETC, 
you will then see the option to read this with Be My AI.


Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VDscanner and Be My AI

Are you talking about where the Describe with Be My AI under the share image 
option? If so, that is not part of VDScan but part of the share options because 
you have Be My Eyes on your phone. If that is not it, where are you finding the 
option in VDScan?
Actually, I am pretty sure the issue is the size of the attachment.

Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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On Nov 15, 2023, at 6:04 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I accidentally misspelled the VDS meaning Voice Dream Scanner.
Yes, I’ve heard a little about the Be My AI, but I was blown away to see that 
Be My AI option in the VDS app.
So you’re not for sure though why I can’t send what I scanned other than maybe 
my internet provider.

Thank you.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VDscanner and Be My AI

Some Internet Service Providers cap the size of emails at 5 MB, so you may not 
be able to send it as one file.
The Be My AI is a tab within Be My Eyes.

What is BDF?




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: VDscanner and Be My AI

Hi Everyone,
I’ve been struggling with Voice Dream Scanner for at least a few hours. I am 
trying to send to my inbox what I scanned with VDS from the VDS app, and what 
I’ve scanned was my Router information.   I check my inbox but nothing shows up.
I used VDS to scan and sent it to my email inbox several times, with no 
problems, but just not today.
 Can someone please tell me what I must be doing wrong?
The scanned information  consist of 8 pages, in which is 5.8 MB in size.  Does 
that sound like to large for VDS to send to an email?
I’ve saved the information  format in txt as well as PDF, but still I don’t get 
the email in my inbox.
I have to tell you all, this really just blew  my mind, when I seen an option 
to have Be My AI to read the information  to me, so just out of curiosity, I 
had Be My AI to read it to me, and it sure enough read everything!
I got a message after I tapped on the option  to use Be My AI to read this scan 
to me, saying please wait Be My AI chat is reading.
I quickly  heard Be My AI reading the scan image to me, and after that, I heard 
a message saying if I want to reply to use the edit field!
Well again, out of curiosity, I sent an message back to Be My AI, thanking  
them, and I quickly  got a message back saying I was welcome!
Although, I have the Be My Eyes app on my iPhone, but I haven’t downloaded the 
Be My AI app yet.
I was really blown away to see that feature in the VDS options though.
I am using BDS version 2.0.3 2000300

I would greatly appreciate some ideas how to send this info to my inbox.

Janet
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RE: RE: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

[janet gross]

Hi Jessica,
When you say you took picture screens, you mean the Computer screen. Is this 
right?

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Dail
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, 
the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

Hi,
I made use of this service today, to fix my computer.
It worked beautifully!
I was able to take pictures of screens & have it read via Voiceover.

Thanks,
Jessica Dail

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: 11/15/2023 01:58 PM
Subject: RE: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the 
Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI

This sounds very interesting and since it is clearly stated that it does not 
replace the option to speak with an actual person I would say this is probably 
a good addition.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 9:45 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Fwd: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, 
the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes



I'm not sure I want AI handling my Microsoft accessibility issues but at least 
the below states a live person can be requested. Thought the list might be 
interested in the below announcement.



Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


Begin forwarded message:

From: Mike from Be My Eyes
Date: November 15, 2023 at 10:59:11 AM CST
To: Alan Lemly
Subject: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the 
Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes
Reply-To: no-re...@bemyeyes.com

Read it online

Hi Alan,

We are excited to announce a new feature for Be My Eyes Specialized Help: 
Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI.

The introduction of Be My AI to Microsoft's offering on Be My Eyes opens the 
door to a revolutionary new way to get immediate assistance through Specialized 
Help. To visit Microsoft's profile, open the Be My Eyes app, and navigate to 
Specialized Help. Here you can select "Technical" and click on Microsoft to 
open their profile on Be My Eyes. You can now tap on the new "Chat with Be My 
AI" button on Microsoft's profile and ask any question through a text message! 
Blind users of Be My Eyes will always have the option to use traditional human 
conversations with a Microsoft agent.

Whether you need to set up your new Microsoft account, reboot your laptop, or 
install and update software, Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk can 
assist you with a number of tasks. This new service from Microsoft on Be My 
Eyes is available to all iOS users and is coming soon for Android devices. You 
can reach out to Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer 24/7 from over 150 
countries worldwide. The service is currently available in English.

You can learn more about Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on our 
new blog post Introducing Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on Be 
My Eyes

PS: Do you know someone who can benefit from this new service? Make sure to 
forward this email to them and invite them to join Be My Eyes!

Best,
Mike Buckley, Be My Eyes CEO

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FW: Be My Eyes Integrates Be My AI™ into its First Contact Center with Stunning Results

[janet gross]

From: tech...@groups.io  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 5:38 PM
To: Tech-VI Announcement List 
Subject: [Tech-VI] Be My Eyes Integrates Be My AI™ into its First Contact 
Center with Stunning Results

Original 
Source
Be My Eyes Integrates Be My AI™ into its First Contact Center with Stunning 
Results
Be My Eyes Integrates Be My AI™ into its First Contact Center with Stunning 
Results
World’s First AI Visual Support for Blind and Low Vision Customers
[Alt-text: Four smartphone screens are displayed to demonstrate the user 
experience walk-through of connecting with Be My AI™ via Microsoft’s 
Specialized Help profile in the Be My Eyes app. The first smartphone screen on 
the far left shows the Microsoft company profile in Be My Eyes. The second 
smartphone screen shows the screen that appears when a blind user selects “Chat 
with Be My AI.” Be My AI™ sends a message to the users that reads, “Hello! This 
is Be My AI™ from Microsoft. How can I assist you today?” The third screen 
shows the conversation with Be My AI™ continued, where a user asks, “How do I 
disable Microsoft Outlook?” The fourth and final smartphone screen shows the 
smartphone camera pointing its rear-facing camera onto a Microsoft Outlook 
inbox on a computer desktop screen.]



  *   Be Me Eyes is the first to globally deploy AI-powered visual customer 
service for individuals who are blind or have low vision through Microsoft’s 
Disability Answer Desk.
  *   Be My AI™ is an AI tool that helps vividly describe images for those who 
are blind, and helps companies provide state-of-the-art description services 
for blind and low vision customers.
  *   Be My AI™ is providing 90%+ successful call resolution with dramatic 
reductions in call handle times. Calls can still be escalated to a human, but 
this is only required in 10% of use cases.

Today Be My Eyes is announcing the successful deployment of Be My AI™, a state 
of the art visual assistance tool powered by OpenAI’s GPT-4 vision model. 
Beginning this month, Microsoft Disability Answer Desk callers who are blind or 
low vision can now use Be My AI™ to handle all types of customer service calls, 
involving highly complex use cases on everything from Excel spreadsheet 
formulas and interpreting product instructions and diagrams, to rebooting a 
laptop or installing and updating software, and much more.

This is the first use of AI accepting image inputs to augment traditional 
customer service for people with disabilities. In fact, the deployment, which 
has rolled out globally, is producing stunning early results that meet what Be 
My Eyes refers to as the 3S Success Criteria™:

  *   Success: a 90% successful resolution rate by Be My AI™ for Microsoft 
customers who try it. Put another way: only 10% of consumers using AI 
interactions are choosing to escalate to a human call center agent.
  *   Speed: Be My AI™ solves customer issues in one-third the time on average 
compared to Be My Eyes calls answered by a live Microsoft agent (4 minutes on 
average for Be My AI vs. 12 minutes on average for live agent support).
  *   Satisfaction: customer satisfaction ratings have improved with the 
implementation of Be My Eyes in Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk with 
interactions averaging 4.85 out of five stars.

“Our new AI-powered accessible customer service model is producing remarkable 
results for not only one of the world’s largest and most innovative companies, 
but also for a community of blind and low vision consumers,” said Mike Buckley, 
CEO of Be My Eyes. “Be My AI™ is the customer service gold standard for 
companies that want to assist blind and low vision consumers, and we are 
incredibly thankful to Microsoft for their leadership, willingness to partner 
on Accessible CX solutions and their help communicating the benefits of Be My 
AI™ to other enterprises so we can advance our mission to make the world more 
accessible.”

"OpenAI is proud to work with Be My Eyes. They've used our AI models to 
significantly enhance the daily lives of people with low vision or blindness," 
said Brad Lightcap, COO at OpenAI. "Their commitment to making technology more 
accessible showcases a remarkable blend of empathy and innovation, underscoring 
the potential of AI when directed by an understanding of community needs. We’re 
glad to see By My Eyes deploy “Be My AI™” successfully.”

How It Works

With the new addition of Be My AI™ at the front end of the experience, blind 
and low vision consumers can receive rapid, automated support for 
Microsoft-related products and services through AI-based natural language 
conversations. Be My AI™ can also provide contextual, advice-based guidance on 
the request at-hand. For example, Be My AI™ can guide you through the steps to 
install a new version of Windows, describe a PowerPoint presentation, and 
provide suggest

RE: VDscanner and Be My AI

[janet gross]

Richard,
Right! Regardless, it is in the app as an option.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VDscanner and Be My AI

Right, any app that uses the share feature, export, etc. will have that 
describe with Be My AI because that is part of Apple's share sheet. So any app 
that provides sharing options can show up there, like Parcel, Dolby On, and 
tons more. But that is not a part of VDScan, it is an Apple feature.
I hope that makes sense.

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Nov 15, 2023, at 7:27 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Richard,
I’m talking about the option to use Be My AI in the VDS app.
When I selected to save it in PDF or txt ETC, and name it,
Then look for the option to send it as mail, message, or save it to VDS, ETC, 
you will then see the option to read this with Be My AI.


Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VDscanner and Be My AI

Are you talking about where the Describe with Be My AI under the share image 
option? If so, that is not part of VDScan but part of the share options because 
you have Be My Eyes on your phone. If that is not it, where are you finding the 
option in VDScan?
Actually, I am pretty sure the issue is the size of the attachment.

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/







On Nov 15, 2023, at 6:04 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I accidentally misspelled the VDS meaning Voice Dream Scanner.
Yes, I’ve heard a little about the Be My AI, but I was blown away to see that 
Be My AI option in the VDS app.
So you’re not for sure though why I can’t send what I scanned other than maybe 
my internet provider.

Thank you.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VDscanner and Be My AI

Some Internet Service Providers cap the size of emails at 5 MB, so you may not 
be able to send it as one file.
The Be My AI is a tab within Be My Eyes.

What is BDF?




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: VDscanner and Be My AI

Hi Everyone,
I’ve been struggling with Voice Dream Scanner for at least a few hours. I am 
trying to send to my inbox what I scanned with VDS from the VDS app, and what 
I’ve scanned was my Router information.   I check my inbox but nothing shows up.
I used VDS to scan and sent it to my email inbox several times, with no 
problems, but just not today.
 Can someone please tell me what I must be doing wrong?
The scanned information  consist of 8 pages, in which is 5.8 MB in size.  Does 
that sound like to large for VDS to send to an email?
I’ve saved the information  format in txt as well as PDF, but still I don’t get 
the email in my inbox.
I have to tell you all, this really just blew  my mind, when I seen an option 
to have Be My AI to read the information  to me, so just out of curiosity, I 
had Be My AI to read it to me, and it sure enough read everything!
I got a message after I tapped on the option  to use Be My AI to read this scan 
to me, saying please wait Be My AI chat is reading.
I quickly  heard Be My AI reading the scan image to me, and after that, I heard 
a message saying if I want to reply to use the edit field!
Well again, out of curiosity, I sent an message back to Be My AI, thanking  
them, and I quickly  got a message back saying I was welcome!
Although, I have the Be My Eyes app on my iPhone, but I haven’t downloaded the 
Be My AI app yet.
I was really blown away to see that feature in the VDS options though.
I am using BDS version 2.0.3 2000300

I would greatly

Google Meetting Help Please

[janet gross]

Hi everyone,
Can someone please tell me how would I join a Google Meeting using my RX phone?
I've never used Google Meetings before, so I don't have any idea how to do this.
Someone sent me an email with a link to a Google Meeting, so I have the link, 
and I could click on that, but what do I need to do after that?

Thank you in advance.

Janet

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Be My Eyes Group.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
I just received this email, and I thought some of you might be interested, so I 
copied and pasted an article below.


Hi Janet,

Be My Eyes is pleased to announce a major new feature called Be My Eyes Groups!

For years we've heard from our community that not every person is comfortable 
asking for help from an unknown volunteer, no matter how kind. That's why, 
starting today, Be My Eyes is offering a major new capability to give blind 
people more choices.

In addition to our existing 7.1 million volunteers, now blind people worldwide 
can also build their own custom network of people to help with everyday tasks. 
Build your own trusted group of friends or family to help with more personal 
and sensitive tasks you might not wish to share with an unknown volunteer - 
it's your choice.

Maybe you need a friend or family member to confirm a medication. Or maybe you 
would feel more comfortable with a friend reviewing your paper mail. Surely 
among 20 friends and family members someone would be happy to help you out at 
the moment you need it. Now Be My eyes technology makes that easy. Once you've 
assembled your trusted group, just press the "My groups" button to connect with 
the first available person who is known to you.

To create a new group, click on "My groups" in the Be My Eyes App homepage and 
follow the instructions on the screen. After you have created and named your 
first group, you will be able to send an invite link to your friends and family 
members. You will find the link at the end of the group creation process. Once 
you've assembled your trusted circle, just press the Be My Eyes Groups button 
to connect with the first available person who is known to you. You can enter 
up to 20 people in your circle and have up to 5 different groups on Be My Eyes.

When you've set it up, your group will always be there to help, in any language 
you and your friends speak. And just like the other Be My Eyes features such as 
standard volunteers, Specialized Help and now Be My AI, our new Be My Eyes 
Groups feature is free of charge for non commercial use.

We'll roll out Be My Eyes Groups worldwide beginning December 20th as an open 
beta test to ensure it's working well for our worldwide user group. To access 
this new feature, just open the current Be My Eyes app and click on the button 
marked "My groups" to start creating your individual trusted group.

We welcome user feedback about the feature. Write to us at 
i...@bemyeyes.com so we can continue to improve this 
service.

Learn more about our new Be My Eyes Groups feature in our new blog post: 
www.bemyeyes.com/blog/be-my-eyes-integrates-friends-and-family-groups

For a step-by-step guide about how to create your own trusted group, visit: 
https://support.bemyeyes.com/hc/en-us/articles/21034815699857-How-do-I-use-Be-My-Eyes-Friends-and-Family-Groups-

Best regards, Mike from Be My Eyes

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Happy Holidays.

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Hi Everyone,
I just want to wish one and all a Merry Christmas, Seasons Greetings, Happy 
Holidays to all!

Janet

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Hi Everyone,
I just want to wish one and all a Merry Christmas, Seasons Greetings, Happy 
Holidays, to all!

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BE My AI Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,

Can someone please tell me if I use Be My AI to read text from my XR iPhone, 
how can I send that text to my email as an attachment?
If this is possible, I just don't know.

Any help  would be greatly appreciated.

Janet
Janet

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FW: Happy Holidays.

[janet gross]

From: janet gross
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Happy Holidays.

Hi Everyone,
I just want to wish one and all a Merry Christmas, Seasons Greetings, Happy 
Holidays, to all!

Janet


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