Re: The K-Supreme Plus T Smart coffee maker

[Larry Smith]

I do have the K supreme plus coffee maker. It does have physical buttons. 
However, I did have to have my sighted wife help during the initial setup. 
Including connecting it to wifi. After the initial setup, it was quite easy to 
use. 

> On Jun 8, 2024, at 5:36 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> All:
> My coffee pot died. I’m sad.
> So on hunt for coffee pot. Anyone know if the The K-Supreme Plus ™ Smart 
> coffee maker has physical buttons or is touch scree?
> I know it can be controlled by Alexa, or Keurig app.
> Has anyone tried the Keuirg app? Is it accessible? 
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Re: Sonos latest update.

[Larry Smith]

Hi Sieghard. I have found a couple of ways to do this. I guess the easiest way 
if you can call it that is to: When you open the Sonos app, do a 4 finger 
single tap on the bottom of the screen. Once you are at the bottom of the 
screen, start swiping back. Now because you are swiping back, You are going to 
see things related to the room before you see the name of the room itself. For 
example, when I start swiping back, I see something like  volume small. I then 
see what is playing Tim Mcgraw, live like you were dying. Swipe again and I see 
the play button. I keep swiping until I see the room name. If I know what room 
I’m in based on the song, I only swipe back until I hear speakers. If you 
double tap speakers, the app will then bring up a list of your rooms. You then 
swipe to the room you want to add. After the room name, It will say something 
like circlecheck. Double tap that and continue this until all rooms you want is 
selected. At the bottom there is an apply button. 
As I stated in my previous email, there is a lot of swiping required for this 
new app. This needs to be addressed by the Sonos team sooner rather than later. 
There are other accessibility issues that has to be fixed also. I guess my hope 
is that those who can use this app will do so. That way, issues can be found 
and reported to Sonos. If Sonos cares about all of their customers, including 
The blind community, They will hear us and fix these issues. I have over $7,000 
invested in Sonos products and growing. 

> On May 8, 2024, at 3:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, but how do you select a particular room or speaker to play 
> music on? I was able to access the system settings no problem, but I have had 
> little success selecting a particular room and then select for example my 
> Apple Music subscription to find a particular artist, album or playlist. I 
> actually don't even use Sonos all that much, my sighted wife does more, but 
> until I can reliably select where I want to play whatever music I want to 
> play, I won't update my iPhone.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 11:34 AM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
> 
> Hi Sieghard. I also was able to check for a firmware update and found that 
> there was none. After playing around with the app, I was able to locate most 
> everything within the app. I certainly agree that the app needs some big 
> accessibility improvements. However, for me, I find it quite useable. I 
> originally updated the app on my iPad. Earlier today, I updated the app on my 
> iPhone 15 pro Max, running IOS 17.5 RC. You have to swipe quite a bit because 
> touching the screen does absolutely nothing. It tells me that true play is 
> off no matter how many times I tap to change the option. However, I know that 
> it is changing because I can hear the change in the sound from the speaker 
> that is playing. Also, My sighted wife says that the icon changes.  I hope 
> Sonos address the VoiceOver accessibility issues sooner rather than later. 
> But for me, The app is useable.
> 
>> On May 8, 2024, at 1:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Larry, I just replied to another message of Richard's, but just in case you 
>> didn't see o rread it entirely, it does not appear that this app update 
>> comes with a hardware update or requires one. I updated the Sonos app on our 
>> iPad last night and then did a manual check for updates in the new Sonos app 
>> and I was told that my system was up to date. This app update seems to be 
>> all about a new look and user interface and not about new capabilities of 
>> the system.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 1:29 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
>> 
>> Ok. I was just curious. I’m afraid to update the firmware.  
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did not update the firmware, unless it updated itself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA
>>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Larry Smith
>

Re: Sonos latest update.

[Larry Smith]

Hi Sieghard. I also was able to check for a firmware update and found that 
there was none. After playing around with the app, I was able to locate most 
everything within the app. I certainly agree that the app needs some big 
accessibility improvements. However, for me, I find it quite useable. I 
originally updated the app on my iPad. Earlier today, I updated the app on my 
iPhone 15 pro Max, running IOS 17.5 RC. You have to swipe quite a bit because 
touching the screen does absolutely nothing. It tells me that true play is off 
no matter how many times I tap to change the option. However, I know that it is 
changing because I can hear the change in the sound from the speaker that is 
playing. Also, My sighted wife says that the icon changes.  I hope Sonos 
address the VoiceOver accessibility issues sooner rather than later. But for 
me, The app is useable.

> On May 8, 2024, at 1:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Larry, I just replied to another message of Richard's, but just in case you 
> didn't see o rread it entirely, it does not appear that this app update comes 
> with a hardware update or requires one. I updated the Sonos app on our iPad 
> last night and then did a manual check for updates in the new Sonos app and I 
> was told that my system was up to date. This app update seems to be all about 
> a new look and user interface and not about new capabilities of the system.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 1:29 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
> 
> Ok. I was just curious. I’m afraid to update the firmware.  
> 
>> On May 7, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did not update the firmware, unless it updated itself.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 12:03 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Sonos latest update.
>> 
>> Richard, did you update both Sonos firmware and software? I believe you said 
>> that you did the update using your iPad. But did you also update the 
>> firmware? I ask because after reading your email, I used my iPad to update 
>> the app only. I was able to use the app with no real issues. I don’t know if 
>> things would be different if I updated the firmware. I did not per update 
>> the Sonos app on my iPhone 15 Max.
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Re: Sonos latest update.

[Larry Smith]

Ok. I was just curious. I’m afraid to update the firmware.  

> On May 7, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I did not update the firmware, unless it updated itself.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 12:03 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Sonos latest update.
> 
> Richard, did you update both Sonos firmware and software? I believe you said 
> that you did the update using your iPad. But did you also update the 
> firmware? I ask because after reading your email, I used my iPad to update 
> the app only. I was able to use the app with no real issues. I don’t know if 
> things would be different if I updated the firmware. I did not per update the 
> Sonos app on my iPhone 15 Max.
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Sonos latest update.

[Larry Smith]

Richard, did you update both Sonos firmware and software? I believe you said 
that you did the update using your iPad. But did you also update the firmware? 
I ask because after reading your email, I used my iPad to update the app only. 
I was able to use the app with no real issues. I don’t know if things would be 
different if I updated the firmware. I did not per update the Sonos app on my 
iPhone 15 Max.

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Off topic question.

[Larry Smith]

This question is very much off topic. I hope I don’t get my head chopped off 
for posting here. My doctor has just prescribed ozempic for me to use for type 
diabetes. I have been using trulicity for several years now. However, None of 
the pharmacies in my area can get it. It seems to be out of stock and they 
don’t know when it will become available. So I was wondering if anyone on this 
list is using the ozempic pen. More so those who have little or no sight. I am 
a totally blind individual. I want to know if the ozempic pen can be used by a 
totally blind individual? Can you set the dosage without sighted assistance? So 
that I don’t upset the list too much, I would appreciate off list responses. 
larry.smith...@gmail.com. I can give my phone number after off list contact. 
Thanks 

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Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

[Larry Smith]

If the U.S. offers this feature, I’m not aware of it.  

> On Apr 11, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Don't US carriers offer a feature which requires a caller to press a random 
> number before the call is connected? Here in Canada you can ask for this and 
> if for example I call somebody who has this activated, I hear the following 
> message:
> 
> The subscriber you are calling has call control. Please press 5 to be 
> connected.
> 
> Of course the "5" is just an example, it could be any number, like I said, 
> it's random and a different one each time you call, it could be 1, 8, 3 etc. 
> The point is that unless you press the correct number you will not be 
> connected. Only thing which could be an issue is when you get a call from a 
> legitimate automatic system. For example, sometimes a health care provider 
> may have an automated system calling you to remind you of an appointment and 
> in some cases you may have to press 1 to confirm the appointment. Otherwise 
> this seems to be very effective. I don't personally have this activated on my 
> phone because I don't actually get many such calls, maybe 3 or 4 a year and 
> in those cases I just hang up once I realize it's not a legitimate call.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 9:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.
> 
> Hi Larry,
> This might not be what you want to hear, but I am also a T-Mobile user, and 
> never found Scam Shield all that great. So what I do is the nuclear approach, 
> which means I have set the setting in my iPhone so that the only calls that 
> ring through are those in my contacts. I get notifications if there’s a 
> voicemail, And the bad side of this of course is that if you’re getting a 
> call from somebody that’s not in your contacts, you’re going to have to call 
> them back. So that’s the downside. The upside is I don’t get spam calls on my 
> phone ever. It’s worth it to me. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2024, at 5:58 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list members. I was wondering if anyone is using an app to monitor 
>> and screen calls on their mobile phone. I am a t-mobile user. Scam shield 
>> does not do a very good job at least for me. I have used both the free and 
>> premium version. I was using robokiller until this month. It did an ok job, 
>> but their subscription service went from $24.99 to $74.99. I don’t mind the 
>> subscription increase so much. It didn’t always work as advertised. So, 
>> before I decided to renew or not, I thought I would ask what app others on 
>> this list might be using. I have also tried TrueCaller but Just couldn’t get 
>> id to work properly. Thanks
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Re: Ecobee3 light and Siri not connecting

[Larry Smith]

Mary, I do not have the ecobee light. However, I do have the ecobee premium 
plus. The only thing I can think of is you may not be connected to WiFi. 
Unfortunately, This cannot be done using the app. You have to connect to WiFi 
through the settings on the thermostat. I have found no way to do this without 
sighted assistance.

> On Apr 10, 2024, at 7:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I got a ecobee3 light installed today. I put the ecobee app on my phone and 
> follow the instructions. My Apple ID is connected to my ecobee account. 
> Notifications are set up. When I look in the settings for the ecobee app it 
> looks like everything should be a go. But Siri simply doesn’t see it. It 
> doesn’t know what I’m talking about. supposedly the EOB is seeing my home. 
> It’s not showing up in the Home app. What in heaven’s name am I missing?
> Mary 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

[Larry Smith]

Hello list members. I was wondering if anyone is using an app to monitor and 
screen calls on their mobile phone. I am a t-mobile user. Scam shield does not 
do a very good job at least for me. I have used both the free and premium 
version. I was using robokiller until this month. It did an ok job, but their 
subscription service went from $24.99 to $74.99. I don’t mind the subscription 
increase so much. It didn’t always work as advertised. So, before I decided to 
renew or not, I thought I would ask what app others on this list might be 
using. I have also tried TrueCaller but Just couldn’t get id to work properly. 
Thanks

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Notifications on Lock Screen.

[Larry Smith]

Can anyone confirm this issue? I have my iPhone 15 Max set to read 
notifications When the screen is locked. Quite often, the phone will announce 
the time or something else, but does not read the notifications. If I touch the 
screen, sometimes it will say (face not recognize, try again). Other times it 
may start  reading a notification or just announce the time. I wish I could say 
that it started with IOS 17 or IOS 17.4 betas. However, this has been going on 
prior to IOS 17. I am currently running IOS 17.4 beta 4. Thanks for any ideas 
or suggestions.

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Re: Keychain questions

[Larry Smith]

Hi Mary. You may have already received an answer to your key chain question. 
Once you are in passwords and have opened the app you are trying to review, you 
then need to double Tapp the edit button. You will then be able to view the 
password. 

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Xfinity made me change the password because of their stupid security breach I 
> guess. I absolutely had to do it or I was not allowed to login into their 
> website. Once there, I had to change the password and I was using my iPhone. 
> I let Apple set up a password through keychain. It’s a strong password with 
> 15 random letters. First question: is it actually possible to see the 
> password in keychain? I follow the directions going to settings and then 
> passwords etc. but once you  get to the one you want, you can’t actually 
> “view the password “which is what Apple says you can do. All I see are 15 
> bullets. This means that when I want to use my PC, I can’t. I thought there 
> would be a way once you’re logged in and behind all those security things 
> that Apple puts up, you could actually read the random password letters just 
> in case you have a non-apple product that you need to login with. It kind of 
> render keychain worthless. Plus now I can’t send my email on my PC. To say 
> I’m mad is to understate the situation by a lot. 
> 
> If it is really not possible to physically see the letters that you need to 
> see in order to use that password on a non-apple product, then what’s the 
> solution? There is an option to “forget password“ so I could do that. But 
> then I have no way of getting into the account. Mary
> 
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Re: Question about the Vesync app

[Larry Smith]

What is the name of the air fryer that you guys are using with the Vesync app. 
I looked for it on amazon but didn’t find anything called Vesync. This air 
fryer sound interesting. Thanks   

> On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rick, I think sometimes my messages are not coming through or 
> something. I had sent a note saying I found them on the Amazon site just 
> before we ordered it. They list 9.4 by 9.4 by 4.8 deep. Close enough to your 
> measurements. Thanks again. 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> 
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard and others,
>> 
>> In case you haven't gotten the inner dimensions of the pan yet, here they 
>> are as per my tape king.
>> The handled pan is 9.58 inches square by 4.8 inches deep without the crisper 
>> tray. The crisper tray is inserted at the bottom of the pan and has holes in 
>> it to allow for grease or liquid through to the bottom if desired.
>> 
>> This was just a quick measurement so probably not as precise it as it could 
>> be but it should give you a good idea.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warmest regards,
>> Rick Alfaro
>> rick.alf...@gmail.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 11:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app
>> 
>> Well, they do not recommend more than one layer as the air has to be able to 
>> circulate around the food.
>> When they are talking chicken wings, I suspect they mean the kind you would 
>> get at a bar, which only has the meaty portion and not the little flat wing 
>> section.
>> And since I don't do chicken wings, I don't really know about their sizes.
>> But, yes, the large basket is geared probably for larger items, including 
>> their cake pan, bread pan, pizza pan ... we can do enough sweet potato fries 
>> or pot stickers for two in ours which I think may be a little smaller than 
>> yours.
>> 
>> I'd appreciate it if you could get the size of the basket at some point.  NO 
>> hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
>> 2024.2310.70.400
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app
>> 
>> Sorry, richard. I don’t know the inner dimensions of the pan yet. Can’t find 
>> it anywhere online, and I forgot to ask my sided spouse, but I shall do so 
>> later today. Also, and I guess this is really getting off-topic, since it’s 
>> not a technical question. What the heck is the point of this big pan/basket 
>> if you’re only supposed to put food in one layer? I get how you could do a 
>> chicken, a whole big piece of meat whatever.but is it really true that even 
>> with the two burners you should only put one layer? The pan is substantially 
>> smaller than a sheet pan, so a whole bunch of chicken wings for instance, 
>> which they say you can do, how? You probably couldn’t put more than maybe 
>> four big chicken wings in that basket in one layer. That’s a far cry from I 
>> think 17 that they advertised. I don’t get it.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2023, at 6:45 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good to know Rick.
>>> We probably should get that one, as ours is one of the recalled models, but 
>>> it has been working fine but we know we are using it at our own risk.  My 
>>> wife cannot imagine being without one for 6 weeks or more if we go through 
>>> the replacement process by cutting the cord and submitting a picture and 
>>> waiting until they send us a replacement, which likely would not be the 2 
>>> burner model...
>>> Christmas is coming. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA
>>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get 
>>> it.”
>>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>> 
>>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 12:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard. I have the 

Re: Be My Eyes Refusing to Open

[Larry Smith]

I was receiving the message saying that I had reached my quota. However, when I 
installed the update this morning, everything is now working as before.


> On Nov 1, 2023, at 9:03 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> Last night I attempted to use Be My AI to describe a photo, and Be My
> Eyes told me I had "reached my quota" and to check my plan. I checked
> the app store and there was an update, so I assumed that would fix the
> problem. Once the app updated, it started refusing to open at all--I
> would double tap on the app and absolutely nothing would happen. I
> have already uninstalled and reinstalled the app. Is this happening to
> anyone else?
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Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

[Larry Smith]

I just purchased the iPhone 15 max yesterday. VD scan is working here.


> On Sep 23, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Lisa Belville  
> wrote:
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> Hi, Richard.
> 
> 
> 
> Sadly, yes.  I wrote to Winston on Thursday morning and he got back to me 
> this morning.  Neither his update nor the 17.0.1 update has corrected the 
> issue.  VO tells me the app is opening, but it doesn't.  However, the app is 
> in the app switcher.
> 
> 
> 
> I've tried several hard resets and I've completely removed and re-downloaded 
> the app.
> 
> 
> 
> It's like the app isn't completely opening or something.
> 
> 
> 
> Winston asked me if I had any odd settings tweaked on my phone and I do not, 
> but I'm not sure what I should be looking for..
> 
> 
> 
> I hope that enough of us with this issue can help him find a solution.  I'm 
> also happy to see he's being so responsive.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com 
> On 9/23/2023 11:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or 17.0.1?
>> 
>> On my 13 pro, it won't open.
>> 
>> Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.
>> 
>> So, checking to see if others are having issues.
>> 
>> For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen, but 
>> VDScan shows up in the app switcher.
>> 
>> Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.
>> 
>> I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset network 
>> settings.
>> 
>> I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….
>> 
>>  
>> Richard, USA.
>> 
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
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iPhone 14 pro and dynamic island

[Larry Smith]

I don’t know if this message is going to the viphone list. When I type the 
address, it brings the viphone list but with a persons name attached. 
I want to know if anyone is using the iPhone 14 pro? If so, is the dynamic 
island accessible using VoiceOver? Thanks

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Weatherology with siri

[Larry Smith]

I am trying to have weatherology  read results using the selected voice of the 
app. However, when I ask Siri for weather info from the weatherology app, I get 
the weather results read using Siri voice. I’m not even sure that the weather 
info coming from weatherology or the weather app app that is installed on the 
iPhone. Any ideas?

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Using vizlens

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As anyone been successful  adding an interface by taking a picture of 
the appliance interface using VoiceOver?  If so, any suggestions or tips? The 
response that I get says that it is blurry and to try taking the picture again. 
I have tried with different lighting as well as several appliances. Thanks

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iPhone SE charging cable.

[Larry Smith]

Hi list members. I have a friend who is using an iPhone SE, I believe the 
original SE. Does anyone know what type charging cable is used with this phone? 
I thought it was a USB to lighting, but apparently not. Also, Is there a power 
bank available for this phone, Or perhaps an adapter? Thanks

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How to enable VoiceOver on 2022 apple 4K TV.

[Larry Smith]

The subject pretty much says it all. I am purchasing the new apple 4K TV. I am 
wondering how to enable VoiceOver. Thanks

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Re: Voice dream scanner and voice dream reader.

[Larry Smith]

Got it! Thanks

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
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> Go to the add button and it should be the first option. If it is not there 
> you need to go to settings and make sure that it is checked as an available 
> source
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 7:22 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi list. It’s been a while since I used voice dream reader. However, I seem 
>> to remember that you could use VDR scanner to scan a document within the VDR 
>> reader app. I can’t seem to find a scan document option within the app.  Has 
>> this changed or am I missing something? Thanks
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Voice dream scanner and voice dream reader.

[Larry Smith]

Hi list. It’s been a while since I used voice dream reader. However, I seem to 
remember that you could use VDR scanner to scan a document within the VDR 
reader app. I can’t seem to find a scan document option within the app.  Has 
this changed or am I missing something? Thanks

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RE: Phone volume

[Larry Wayland]

I am having the same problem with voice mail. I have 15.2 on a 2020 SE.
Larry



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Sabo
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Phone volume

Hi
I have the same problem.
Becky

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On Dec 29, 2021, at 1:11 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:

Hello, I have the same problem. But then sightly, it might be a little bit 
different. Whenever I've received a phone call or I go to make a phone call, my 
volume is automatically being adjusted without my knowledge. So I'm having to 
constantly use the volume keys to turn the volume back up. Is anybody else 
having this issue? I'm thinking of making a poll report to Apple accessibility. 
And this is on an iPhone SE 2020.

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 9:59 AM, rhs via VIPhone  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have an iPhone XR running IOS 15.2.
> 
> Where do I go to adjust the phone volume?  I mean the volume of the 
> conversation, not the ringer volume.  Somehow mine is being very quiet and I 
> have a hard time hearing.  This is the case whether or not I am using the 
> speaker phone.
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: apple watch

[Larry]

Hello,
I am having trouble determining battery status on apple 6 watch.  I updated the 
software today and speech indicates it can’t help with this.  Is there a 
setting I can check or what can I do?
Thanks much. Larry

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Simon, there is "wrist detection" in Settings which is turned on by default.
> The back of the watch has LED lights which are used to track heart rate and 
> I'm not sure if there are other sensors used when you do an EKG, but through 
> these and probably also because of sensors like accelerometer, gyroscope and 
> so on the watch knows if it is on a wrist or just sitting on a table and of 
> course if it's charging it knows it can't be on the wrist unless you have a 
> built-in Qi charger in your wrist.
> Here is an article which explains the heart rate monitoring:
>  
> How Apple Watch Measures Heart Rate & Its Accuracy Explained
>  
> The Apple Watch is capable of tracking many health-related aspects of your 
> body, including heart rate. The heart rate monitor is less accurate than you 
> might think, but there are ways to improve the accuracy of heart rate 
> readings received from the Apple Watch.
> The Apple Watch Series 5 was released in September 2019, and it remains one 
> of the most sought after smartwatches available. Several smartwatches and 
> fitness trackers on the market have the ability to track heart rate, but the 
> Apple Watch remains one of the most commonly purchased products with heart 
> rate tracking. It was cleared by the FDA for its precision. Despite that, 
> studies have suggested that the Apple Watch's accuracy is less than 
> 50-percent.
> The Apple Watch tracks heart rate using photoplethysmography. While this 
> sounds complicated, it just means it uses light to track your heart rate. Red 
> things, like blood, reflect red light and absorb green light. The Apple Watch 
> uses green light to help detect how much light is being absorbed by the blood 
> in the veins, and that fluctuation can be used to track heart rate. The green 
> LED lights flash hundreds of times each second in order to get an accurate 
> reading. This is the type of reading it takes as someone is actively working 
> out, and it supports tracking heart rates that are 30–210 beats per minute. 
> The heart rate sensor also uses infrared light to track heart rate in the 
> background all the time, and to provide heart rate notifications.
>  
> How To Increase The Accuracy Of Readings
> Heart rate can also be tracked using the Digital Crown on the side of the 
> Apple Watch. When you place the finger of your opposite hand on the crown, it 
> creates a closed circuit between your hands that goes through your heart. 
> Because of this closed circuit, the heart rate measurement is much more 
> accurate, and you will also get a much faster reading than what you 
> experience with other methods.
> The Apple Watch’s accuracy level can be different from person to person. For 
> some, it’s impossible to get a heart rate reading at all. However, there are 
> things that can be done to help get a more accurate heart rate reading more 
> consistently. Making sure the Apple Watch fits well is one of the best ways 
> to ensure an accurate reading. The watch should be not too tight or too 
> loose, and it needs to remain on the top of the wrist a all times. Wrist 
> detection also needs to be turned on in order to have heart rate detection 
> whatsoever. Anytime Power Saving mode is turned on, the heart rate sensor 
> will also stop tracking the heart rate. Tattoos, skin perfusion, and the type 
> of movement may also affect the accuracy of the Apple Watch readings.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: November 11, 2021 12:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: apple watch
>  
> Yeah, I setup a passcode a week or so back for the mask unlock of the phone,
> And was interested to see that it locked when I took it off,
>  
> I wondered how it knew,
> Other than it’s back isn’t against the skin anymore.
> I wondered if there might be something in the strap.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2021 8:18 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: apple watch
>  
> Yes, the watch knows if you wear it or not. When you first put it on and if 
> you set a passcode you have to enter that or you can set it to unlock when 
> you unlock your iPhone, once that is done you don't have to enter a passcode 
> as long as it stays on your wrist, but as soon as you take it off you have to 
> unlock it again.
> Also, if you use Apple Pay on the watch and you have unloc

Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

[Larry Smith]

I updated west minster chime this afternoon. the time is announced in 24 hour 
format.. I can’t find any way to change this to 12 hour format. For example, 
4:30 is spoken as 16:30. Can anyone confirm this? 

> On Nov 2, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends,
> 
> For those interested Westminster Chimes Full has been updated for 
> compatibility with iOS15.
> 
> I’ve updated but not tried it yet.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Larry Smith]

If you turn the device off and back on again,it will fix that problem. That’s 
what worked for me and two others who was experiencing that issue.


> On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
> pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 
> 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another 
> device running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix 
> is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about 
>> bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>>  On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
>> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>  
>> Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
>> bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and 
>> my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
>> problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
>> problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems 
>> of some just because they don't affect you.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com 
>>  
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>> On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In 
>> addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you 
>> against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
>>  
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>>  On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
>> what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>  
>> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
>> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
>> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
>> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone 
>> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something 
>> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a 
>> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed 
>> as it was.
>>  
>> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
>> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
>> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
>> Motion.
>> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like 
>> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read 
>> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around 
>> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>>  
>> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior 
>> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the 
>> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I 
>> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, 
>> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by 
>> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>>  
>> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
>> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>>  
>> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
>> things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
>> province where I live:
>>  
>> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult 
>> to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each 
>> word correctly.
>> 
>> I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also 
>> have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test 
>> this, but it was not pronounced like this in 

RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

[Larry Wayland]

Yes, that is correct. I am one of those  who is not on insulin and was able to 
have my insurance pay for it.  I was fortunate to have a doctor that advocated 
for me and was able to get the insurance to pay.

So, yes it can be done.

Larry

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

My wife has the freestyle, and she is not on insulin.  As Robert said, you can 
advocate based on the fact that you are blind, and have difficulty using a 
system that requires you to obtain a blood sample.

Many blind persons have successfully advocated to get the device.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Anthony Vece <mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 8:44 AM

Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

Hi Bob; I am having a terrible time getting the freestyle libre. They keep 
telling me that I need to be on insulin. Three doctors have tried to get this 
for me through my medical plan and Medicare part B to no success. Please help? 
Thank you Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Robert stigile mailto:rnstechnol...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

First, no you do not need to be on insulin do use the Libre, as I am not using 
insulin and I have the libre sensors.

My doctor was able to get the Libre for me because I said I wanted to have 
better control of my diabetes and I can’t do that because it’s difficult to get 
blood test since I can’t see it all and it’s hard to get enough blood on the 
strip using a meter.

Secondly when you are using the app on iPhone to check your readings with the 
Libre patch you need to put the top of the phone against the patch and then it 
will scan it and give you your readings. Again, you need to touch the top of 
the foam to the patch.

I hope this helps. 

 

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President 

National Federation of the Blind of California

President San Fernando Valley Chapter

818-381-9568

 





On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Lynn White mailto:lynnwhite...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Linda, 

My understanding is that you have to be on insulin. But to be safe, I would 
either check with the insurance company or your doctor.

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Lynda Ingraham mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Vivian Conger mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks Everyone,

Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and think that yes I 
may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my Libre 2 app to 
activate it.

I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and my phone 
thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range.  Didn’t make a 
difference.  

The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the reader is Libre 
2.  Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8.

So for now I will use the reader to scan the sensor and have Voice Dream 
Scanner read what the display shows.  

Looking forward to using my phone as the alerts on the reader are not very loud.

Again thanks everyone for all the comments and suggestions.

Vivian and Sallie

From: 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

As others have said, you don’t need the reader.  I am not diabetic, but my 
husband is, and he is totally blind and uses it every day with just the app.  I 
have a feeling that since you activated the sensor with the reader, that you 
may not be able to use this particular sensor with the app, but after this 
14-day sensor is finished, just apply the new sensor and use the app to scan 
it.  Also, as others have said, after you activate it, you will need to wait an 
hour.  The app will notify you when your hour is over and prompt you to scan 
for a reading.  We have never had a reader with my husband’s unit, as I talked 
with a coworker and he told me not to get it, as the app is the most accessible 
way to use the Libre.  We told the doctor that we didn’t want or need the 
reader.  Hope this is helpful.






On Sep 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Joney Owen mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the next sensor with 
your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but I don’t recall 
how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve now switched 
over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors.




Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Vivian,

You didn’t need the reader at al

RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

[Larry Wayland]

Your right, the reader is not accessible at all.  What I have been doing is 
letting my wife, who is sighted, activate the sensor with the reader and then I 
use the app on the phone from then on.  I was told by the company this is what 
I would have to do.  However the next sensor I will try activating it with just 
the app on the phone.

Larry

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

Hi Larry,

Are you sure about needing a reader? I have never had the reader, as I 
understood when these things came out and became accessible through the iPhone, 
but the reader was superfluous. You can activate the sensor without the reader, 
unless they’ve changed something, which is incredibly stupid, since the reader 
is otherwise not accessible at all.

I’m really confused. Because I know back when I used these sensors over the 
course of a year or a year and a half often on, no reader was ever necessary. 
I’ve never even seen it.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Larry Wayland mailto:lhwayl...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:



You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each new 
sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to wate 
one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on your 
phone.

Larry

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.

The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

 

I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.

I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.

Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.

Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  wins...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:wins...@voicedream.com> 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Vivian Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

Hi All,

 

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

 

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

 

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

 

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for assistance.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

 

 

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RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

[Larry Wayland]

You need the reader to activate the sensor.  You will need to activate each new 
sensor you put on your arm.  After a sensor is activated you will have to wate 
one hour for the sensor to start working.  Then you can use the app on your 
phone.

Larry

 

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

I am 99% sure you do not need the reader.

The app should scan the sensor and give you what you need to know.

 

I don’t have diabetes, so I am just going on what I read.

I know some on this list use the Freestyle sensors, so I hope you get a 
response soon.

Its great that Voice Dream Scanner did such a good job.

Winston I’m sure would appreciate hearing about that.  wins...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:wins...@voicedream.com> 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

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Vivian Conger
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:56 PM
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Subject: Free Style Libre Arrived

 

Hi All,

 

I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment with 
the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her that it 
does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

 

She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was installed 
on a different device.  I received an email stating that this could be done but 
have not figured out how to do it yet.

 

I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried VD 
Scanner and it was perfect.

 

I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for assistance.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

 

 

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IOS 15 security update

[Larry Smith]

There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
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RE: disappearing voiceover

[Larry Wayland]

Sometimes while taking my phone out of the case to answer a call I 
inadvertently touch something on the screen that turns the speech off.  A three 
figure double tap might turn it back on but not always on the first try.  I 
wish something could be done to stop this from occurring because it is a little 
aggravating at times.

Larry

 

 

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Donald ball
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: disappearing voiceover

 

What is happening is that you are pressing 3 fingers to the screen instead of 
2. To restore the voice, Either,  press 3 fingers to the screen or turn voice 
over off and back on again. I guess we can fix the problem by changing the 3 
finger gesture to something else. Maybe down the line the team could change it 
to something else that stops this from happening or we can be more careful.

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

 

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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:35 PM
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Subject: Re: disappearing voiceover

 

I have the same issue... though I just turn voice-over off and back on again. 
It takes a few tries though. 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:23 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Twice this evening when I ended a phone call voiceover was gone.I could connect 
my Bose frames and hear it. Audio routing did nothing. I had to shut the phone 
down and restart it to get it to work.

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RE: is there an advantage to BARD Express?

[Larry Lumpkin]

Bard express is a pc app put out by NLS to make the finding and downloading of 
books and their offloading to sticks or cards or cartridges much easier.


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What is BARD Express? 

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Arnold Schmidt
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Okay, I guess it has had some upgrades since I used it. Now that I finally have 
a modern computer, I may give it another try. Using it to add to my wish list 
would be a convenience. 

Arnold Schmidt 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

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Bard Express is meant to automate the process of downloading books and adding 
them to a flash drive for the NLS player. It also can be used to delete them 
once they have been read. It has no advantage for one only using their phone. 

Arnold Schmidt 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

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I only listened to BARD books via the BARD app on my iPhone.  I do my searches 
via the app and access my Wish List that way.  I thought I heard people excited 
about BARD Express, but the download page makes it sound like it’s main benefit 
is to those who are downloading books to their PC and/or USB drive.  Is there 
any benefit to use the BARD app if I will not be downloading to my laptop?  
Does it make adding and managint my wish list easier?  That’s the only reason I 
can think of what benefit it would give me.  Admittedly, searches for books on 
my phone can be a bit tedious, but the phone is usually in my hand when I think 
of a book I want to search for.  Just  not wanting to miss out on something 
that makes life easier, but no need to add another thing to my list if ti’s not 
adding much value.

 

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RE: is there an advantage to BARD Express?

[Larry Lumpkin]

I like bard express for the simplicity of its interface though I can use the 
regular BARD page on the site. Also, I can look up books by series which is 
nice sometimes.


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Subject: RE: is there an advantage to BARD Express?

What is BARD Express? 

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Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Okay, I guess it has had some upgrades since I used it. Now that I finally have 
a modern computer, I may give it another try. Using it to add to my wish list 
would be a convenience. 

Arnold Schmidt 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:53 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:





Bard Express is meant to automate the process of downloading books and adding 
them to a flash drive for the NLS player. It also can be used to delete them 
once they have been read. It has no advantage for one only using their phone. 

Arnold Schmidt 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:25 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:


 

I only listened to BARD books via the BARD app on my iPhone.  I do my searches 
via the app and access my Wish List that way.  I thought I heard people excited 
about BARD Express, but the download page makes it sound like it’s main benefit 
is to those who are downloading books to their PC and/or USB drive.  Is there 
any benefit to use the BARD app if I will not be downloading to my laptop?  
Does it make adding and managint my wish list easier?  That’s the only reason I 
can think of what benefit it would give me.  Admittedly, searches for books on 
my phone can be a bit tedious, but the phone is usually in my hand when I think 
of a book I want to search for.  Just  not wanting to miss out on something 
that makes life easier, but no need to add another thing to my list if ti’s not 
adding much value.

 

Robin

iPhone SE 2020

 

 

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Apple new remote button layout.

[Larry Smith]

If anyone on the list have or know where I can find the button layout on the 
new apple remote, I would much appreciate receiving the info. Also, If anyone 
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RE: Apple TV

[Larry Lumpkin]

I don't particularly like the roku speech either but it does work and roku is 
very accessible which is why I bought it in the first place.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I totally agree with Mary here. The Roku speech is absolutely horrible. Just 
think MicroSoft Sam with a hangover. Really annoying.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV

I can’t speak to Roku and it’s absolute latest incarnation, but what I do know 
about it for my experience is that the voice they use is hideous. I had a Roku 
stick, and it was sluggish. And although I have been using synthetic speech 
since the DOS days, I found their speech is hard to understand is anything I’ve 
ever heard in the synthetic speech world. In other words, avoid it like the 
plague.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:35 PM, jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> May I suggest that especially with the new remote, Apple TV is wonderful, 
> and the only part that is sometimes a bit tricky, are the third party apps, 
> like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney, HBO Max, and perhaps others, but it is so 
> simple to turn on Audio Description for many of these apps that I would not 
> use any other device.
> Of course, if you have Apple TV Plus, all of their original programming is 
> audio described,  as is just about all Netflix programming as well.
> 
> 
> I do know, but not from firsthand experience, that the Roku  app with a Smart 
> TV is supposed  to be accessible, but there are so many different Roku 
> devices, that each one is different,  and you turn on accessibility options 
> differently, depending on the Roku device that you are using.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV
> 
> Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
> I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care Stay safe Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> I know there have been lots of messages on this topic in the past.  
>> However, I didn't really pay attention to them because I wasn't 
>> needing the information.
>> 
>> We currently have a Roku, and are thinking about changing to Apple 
>> TV.  I have to admit that I never concerned myself with 
>> accessibility, and just let my husband control the remote, since we 
>> seemed to enjoy much of the same programing.
>> 
>> For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you 
>> prefer, and why?
>> 
>> Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Karen P
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RE: orbit reader 20

[Larry Lumpkin]

A subject would have been helpful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: orbit reader 20

 

I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems to be having 
problems with special characters such as (~ !)  in the password.

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RE: The seamless app

[Larry Lumpkin]

I've found grub hub very usuable and doordash has become unusable. Calling Ira 
to get help from them is no solution at all to me and does not make the app 
more accessible.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The seamless app

The last time I ordered from Wendy's there was a button after you choose the 
type of bun that said lettuce.  I thought that meant I wanted lettuce on my 
burger, but when I got the burgers they were wrapped in lettuce, and no bun. 
This was with Uber Eats, and wasn't their fault, it was the way that Wendy's 
produced the menu, as the layout was the same with Door Dash.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "kitty hevener" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: The seamless app


Yeah, I know.  But the last time I tried using door dash, I could not place 
the order.  So, I tried calling the order folks.  Had hard time 
understanding the person.  When I got my order, I discovered there was a 
round cup with a chicken patty laying inside.  Couldn't help wonderin, 
"Where's the bread"?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The seamless app

Door Dash does have Chick Fil-A, but of course, not on Sundays.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "kitty hevener" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: The seamless app


I just installed seamless here in cincinnati.  It seems to have pretty much
the same restaurant choices as grub hub.  I haven't tried ordering anything
though.  Sadly, neither of them have chick filet.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The seamless app

They're pretty similar in my area.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy
Brandt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The seamless app

Understood. I guess my question then is, has anyone noticed restaurant or
menu choice differences between DoorDash and caviar or GrubHub and seamless?

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Just because one company owns another means nothing these days, you still
> use the product or service you like and there are many examples where a
> company buys another with a similar product or service but still they are
> different enough so people prefer one over another or maybe they operate
> in different markets. Of course there are also cases where a company buys
> another which is extremely similar just so they can dominate a particular
> category or absorb the other company.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 7:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The seamless app
>
> It’s great that GrubHub has gotten easier to use over time, less
> cluttered. Seamless owns them, so would you just be duplicating effort by
> getting the seamless app?
>
> Same with DoorDash: at different times I get emails saying I can use dash
> pass with caviar, but if I’m going to have access to the same places if I
> got caviar, what’s the point?
>
>
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:07 AM, Johna Gravitt 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Pricing appears to be the same as the actual restaurants, it doesn't
>> appear to be inflated.  The taxes and service fees seem to be lower than
>> UberEATS as well.
>> Also, the delivery fees aren't too bad either and if you subscribe to
>> seamless plus you get free delivery from a lot of places and other perks
>> as well.
>> Johna
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 3:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The seamless app
>>
>> what about pricing?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Johna Gravitt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 1:20 PM
>> Subject: RE: The seamless app
>>
>>
>> I use the seamless app on a regular basis.  It is very accessible.
>> The descriptions are very good on the restaurants and the items on the
>> menus.
>> The only issues I've found are rating after delivery, and when
>> getting support through the chat feature, you cannot read what you've
>> wrote after it's sent, only what the agent writes.
>> I've submitted feedback to them.
>> Johna
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Noe Villeda
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 2:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: The seamless app
>>
>> Has anyone used the Seamless app?
>> I hear it is similar to Uber eats.
>> If so, what are your thoughts on it, is it accessible?
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Re: accessibile security systems that are compatibole with the Iphone 8?

[Larry Smith]

Ring does have professional monitoring. It’s $10 per month, or $100 per year. I 
have had it for several years now. It is very accessible.   

> On Jun 20, 2021, at 8:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I might be wrong here, but I don't think Ring is a monitored system? It 
> really depends what you want. Mich, if you feel you need a security system 
> you may want to call Liberty Security as I believe they operate Canada wide 
> or ask your provider since I think many of the large telecom providers now 
> also offer home and business security systems. I know for sure Telus does 
> since they keep calling me to see if I want to switch to them so I assume 
> Bell at least may also offer this. If you get a monitored system you may get 
> the basic system like the keypad and a few door and window sensors for free 
> if you sign up for a contract. You will then probably pay around $25/30 a 
> months and this will be for your monitoring, e.g. if your system I striggered 
> somebody at the monitoring centre will be alerted and after first checking in 
> with you they will then call the police. Such systems can also include smoke 
> detectors or a panic button which when pressed will immediately result in the 
> police getting send to you.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ken 
> Brown
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 11:11 AM
> To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: accessibile security systems that are compatibole with the 
> Iphone 8?
>  
> I don’t know if Ring is available in Canada. If you get the complete ring 
> system which comes with sensors and camera’s and keypad, you will spend about 
> $200 to $300 depending on the exact system you choose. If you are patient and 
> look around you can sometimes find it on sale much cheaper. Like right now 
> Amazon is having its Prime day on Monday and I’m pretty sure the systems will 
> be on sale. So I guess you would have to check the Ring website witch is 
> ring.com  and see if they are available outside the U.S.
> 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:54 PM, mich verrier  > wrote:
>  
> Hi all how mutch do these systems cost? And are they in Canada? I live in 
> Canada and am wondering. I realise that the majoridey of the members on this 
> list live in the US so I thought I would ask if these are in Canada or not? I 
> have herd of the ring doorbell system is this the same thing? From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ken 
> Brown
> Sent: June 19, 2021 1:49 PM
> To: 'Ming' via VIPhone  >
> Subject: Re: accessibile security systems that are compatibole with the 
> Iphone 8?
> 
> Vivint is not that accessible at all. I just got rid of there system and 
> installed the Ring system which is very accessible. The keypad is very simple 
> and easy to use. The system also sends you instant notifications as soon as 
> you do any action. I like it. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2021, at 7:07 AM, Dacia Cole  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My family and I just bought a house and we want to install a security 
> system. I'm looking for one that is accessible and that I can use with 
> my Iphone and that the keypad for the system is accessible. Is the 
> Ring security system accessible. I've also heard Vivent (not sure of 
> the spelling) is accessible, but not sure if this one is as good based 
> on some reviews I've read.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Dacia
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RE: The seamless app

[Larry Lumpkin]

We've been using grub hub and find it very accessible. The food has been hot 
and fresh and delivered fast.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The seamless app

I use the seamless app on a regular basis.  It is very accessible.  The 
descriptions are very good on the restaurants and the items on the menus.  The 
only issues I've found are rating after delivery, and when getting support 
through the chat feature, you cannot read what you've wrote after it's sent, 
only what the agent writes.
I've submitted feedback to them.
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 2:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The seamless app

Has anyone used the Seamless app?
I hear it is similar to Uber eats.
If so, what are your thoughts on it, is it accessible?

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RE: Treadmill app

[Larry Wayland]

Now listen, I am right about this.  You guys are the ones who drive on the 
wrong side of the road, and there is no doubt about that. Smile!

Larry


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Larry
NZ converted back in the late 60's before I was born,

And I still use inchs feets miles etc,

But then I use the metric system as well.

And besides,

You guys still drive on the wrong side of the road, That wouldn’t' be an easy 
conversion.

Rotflmao 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:28 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

I don't know what I was thinking there.  Jimmy Carter would not be very happy 
with me for that. lolI wish the U.s. would go ahead and switch over to the 
metric system.  It would not take long for the people to get accustomed to itt.
Larry


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

That's from living in a metric nation that still can use empyreal 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Oops, sorry, my bad you are right.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Um,
100 miles per hour is equal to 160 kilometres per hour,

So one mile is approx. 1.6 Km. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:12 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

I don't think that is quite right.  .62 of a mile is one km. so two km is 1.24 
miles.
Larry


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

That's easy,

1.616 Km is approx. a mile,



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy 
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill app

Hi, I ordered one from Amazon by the brand surene life and it has buttons that 
you can label and or it has the speed buttons up and down on one handle and on 
and off on the other.  There is also an app you can use to keep up with your 
miles but it is in kilometers.
Hope this helps.
Amy

On 6/7/21, Vicki W.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a treadmill that can either be used with an accessible 
> app or touch screen on the treadmill itself, both options would be 
> great. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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RE: Treadmill app

[Larry Wayland]

I don't know what I was thinking there.  Jimmy Carter would not be very happy 
with me for that. lolI wish the U.s. would go ahead and switch over to the 
metric system.  It would not take long for the people to get accustomed to itt.
Larry


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

That's from living in a metric nation that still can use empyreal 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Oops, sorry, my bad you are right.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Um,
100 miles per hour is equal to 160 kilometres per hour,

So one mile is approx. 1.6 Km. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:12 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

I don't think that is quite right.  .62 of a mile is one km. so two km is 1.24 
miles.
Larry


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

That's easy,

1.616 Km is approx. a mile,



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy 
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Treadmill app

Hi, I ordered one from Amazon by the brand surene life and it has buttons that 
you can label and or it has the speed buttons up and down on one handle and on 
and off on the other.  There is also an app you can use to keep up with your 
miles but it is in kilometers.
Hope this helps.
Amy

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> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a treadmill that can either be used with an accessible 
> app or touch screen on the treadmill itself, both options would be 
> great. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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RE: Treadmill app

[Larry Wayland]

Oops, sorry, my bad you are right.


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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:14 PM
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Um,
100 miles per hour is equal to 160 kilometres per hour,

So one mile is approx. 1.6 Km. 

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Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:12 am
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I don't think that is quite right.  .62 of a mile is one km. so two km is 1.24 
miles.
Larry


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That's easy,

1.616 Km is approx. a mile,



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Hi, I ordered one from Amazon by the brand surene life and it has buttons that 
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RE: Treadmill app

[Larry Wayland]

I don't think that is quite right.  .62 of a mile is one km. so two km is 1.24 
miles.
Larry


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That's easy,

1.616 Km is approx. a mile,



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Hi, I ordered one from Amazon by the brand surene life and it has buttons that 
you can label and or it has the speed buttons up and down on one handle and on 
and off on the other.  There is also an app you can use to keep up with your 
miles but it is in kilometers.
Hope this helps.
Amy

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RE: iPad 8th gen

[Larry Lumpkin]

I bought the ipad 8th generation over the new Air because it saved me $150 or 
so. It performs as well as I need it to.

 

 

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Larry is correct.

It does.

Here is a link to the technical specifications for the 8th Gen  iPad:

iPad (8th generation) - Technical specifications (apple.com) 
<https://support.apple.com/kb/SP822?locale=en_US> 

 

Someone had said it didn’t have the 3.5 jack; but Apple says it does.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

 

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It does.

 

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Does the 8th gen 10.2 inch have the 3.5mm headphone jack?

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RE: iPad 8th gen

[Larry Lumpkin]

It does.

 

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Does the 8th gen 10.2 inch have the 3.5mm headphone jack?

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looking for an accessible food ordering app

[Larry Lumpkin]

Since the slipping in accessibility of DoorDash, I'm looking for the most
accessible ordering app. I have uber eats and grub hub and they may be
accessible though I haven't completed an order with either yet.

 

 

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changing accounts in the alexa app

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Well. I got off the ipad and got onto the phone and flapped and flapped and
finally got signed off of my account and onto my wifes, and then back again.

 

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Trying to log into another account on the alexa app

[Larry Lumpkin]

I am disabling alexa sidewalk and am trying to log out of my account on the
ipad in order to log into my wife's account to disable hers. I have gone
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fine where to log out. It used to be on the alexa app's home page but is
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RE: I must be the red headed step child.

[Larry Wayland]

I don’t know why, but it usually refers to the least favorite child in a 
family.  

Larry

 

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Hello,  I'm not a native speaker, and I just wanted to know what does a 
red-headed step child mean? Dou

 

Best,

 Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul 
Auster. "City of Glass"

 

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Spotify, Pandora, iHeart Radio are all Free to an extent, meaning that there is 
a limited number of skips when listen to music & there ads that can't be 
dismissed.  A paid subscription gets you unlimited skips & is ad free. I'm 
cheap, so I use the Free service of the apps.

 

Donna So, then, Spotify is not free?

> 

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> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 6:51 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

> Subject: Re: I must be the red headed step child.

> 

> I don’t like Spotify, but it does let you have a free trial.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
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> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:48:43 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
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> Subject: RE: I must be the red headed step child.

> 

> Yes, it is. I just hope Spotify is as good as people say Pandora is, but 
> better second best than nothing, which is clearly what I have now.

> 

> -Original Message-

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> 

> Carolyn, that’s strange

> 

> 

> 

> 

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> Subject: I must be the red headed step child.

> 

> I got away doing other things, then tried Pandora again.

> After even changing my password, they said, sorry, could not register me. 
> That is so crazy. I am just thankful I had no problem with Google.

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RE: I must be the red headed step child.

[Larry Lumpkin]

It's not free as well as pandora. I think you get some limited use with both 
but you have to buy a subscription to either to get full functionality. I pay 
about $50 a year for pandora.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I must be the red headed step child.

So, then, Spotify is not free? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I must be the red headed step child.

I don’t like Spotify, but it does let you have a free trial.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:48:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: I must be the red headed step child. 
 
Yes, it is. I just hope Spotify is as good as people say Pandora is, but better 
second best than nothing, which is clearly what I have now. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I must be the red headed step child.

Carolyn, that’s strange 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net>
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Subject: I must be the red headed step child. 
 
I got away doing other things, then tried Pandora again.
After even changing my password, they said, sorry, could not register me. That 
is so crazy. I am just thankful I had no problem with Google. 

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RE: Question about Pandora.

[Larry Lumpkin]

I don't think so.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about Pandora.

Can I just ask Siri to play a song, now that I finally got the Pandora app 
downloaded? 

Thanks. 

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RE: Blog post about Audible/Amazon limiting access to audio books, worth reading and considering

[Larry Lumpkin]

I have no difficulty putting audible books on our streams. I just download them 
and point Humanware companion to the folder where they are.


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RE: Blog post about Audible/Amazon limiting access to audio books, worth reading and considering

[Larry Lumpkin]

I think audible has the same right to have exclusive deals with 
authors/publishers as anyone else.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blog post about Audible/Amazon limiting access to audio books, 
worth reading and considering

I have heard of a couple of these programs that you can use to strip off the 
digital rights management from audible recordings. But it’s not legal, because 
when you do that, you are violating the terms of service that you agreed to in 
order to purchase the rights to use the books.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 25, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Excuse me, but you cannot convert audible books to mp3.
> Or if you can, I have never heard of it.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 9:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blog post about Audible/Amazon limiting access to audio 
> books, worth reading and considering
> 
> What I'd do, is have your friend give you the money, and buy the book 
> from audible.  That's what I'd do.  I would just convert the book to
> mp3 format there you go.  No problems.  Audible is still cheaper then a lot 
> of audio book places, so I will continue to use it.  However, if I canceled 
> my audible membership, I'd still have so many books from bard or bookshare, 
> it really wouldn't matter to me.  Richard, if you don't have audible, write 
> me off list and I'll see what I can do to get the book.
> 
>> On 5/25/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> As someone who has an Amazon Prime membership, yes, that is 
>> offputting, which is why I said I do not agree with everything, 
>> however it raises huge concerns about access to books.
>> One example that sent me over the edge which is why I decided to 
>> spread the word about this, is I was trying to get a book for a 
>> friend who is a 90-year old Sister of Providence. The book is only 
>> available through Audible. It was written 7 years ago and is a Catholic 
>> theology book.
>> My friend cannot deal with learning new software like audible or 
>> especially Kindle.
>> I was hoping to get it from Libro.fm where you can actually download 
>> an MP3 file and play it on any device, like her BARD book player.
>> She would buy the book.
>> But, the author/publisher, someone, signed an exclusive agreement 
>> with Amazon.
>> That's BS!
>> I've written the author to see if something can be done, but I'm not 
>> holding my breath.
>> My friend really needs human read books.
>> So, that is one real life example where Amazon is getting too damn 
>> powerful.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> u
>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cfd95d2a655b340082a9d08d91f9d57a5%
>> 7 
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>> o 
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>> u
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>> 
>> 
>> On May 25, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe my statement came across the wrong way, but if such articles 
>> are written to raise awareness of issues regarding book access and 
>> such the author should do so in a more objective way which is not 
>> going to offend the majority of people who read this. Let's face it, 
>> how many people order from Amazon and statements like "Amazon is 
>> evil" would make many of them feel insantly defensive.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Blog post about Audible/Amazon limiting access to audio 
>> books, worth reading and considering
>> 
>> Well, if you want to close your mind because of one stupid sentence, 
>> that is your right.
>> The rest of the article is quite informative in my opinion.
>> I do not know how libraries work in Canada, but libraries in this 
>> country are quite upset by this trend because it limits access to books, 
>> period.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> u
>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cfd95d2a655b340082a9d08d91f9d57a5%
>> 7 
>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637575582901799642%7CUnkn
>> o 
>> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
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RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[Larry Wayland]

All a person would have to do in case the software fails is to have a cane 
along with them.

If the robot worked well enough, and was not too expensive, I would use it.

Larry

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

I think this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  What if something 
goes wrong with the software in the robot?  What then?  Nothing will replace 
either the white cane or a guide dog.  I use a cane myself and always will!

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On May 23, 2021, at 9:13 PM, goshawk on horseback 
mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> > wrote:

 

that's more or less what I said as well. 

 

Simon 

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 1:41 AM

Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

I thought it would be a good read since we’re talking about technology being 
helpful to supplement the tools we already have. 

If they had a robot dog as a guide, I’d sign up so long as the AI is suitable 
enough to help me have an easier time navigating open spaces and other settings.

 





On May 23, 2021, at 6:45 PM, goshawk on horseback 
mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> > wrote:

 

I disagree. 

there have already over this last couple of weeks alone, been conversations on 
at least 4 other e-mail lists that I am on, about possible robot guide dogs for 
example. 

 

Simon 

 

 

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From: CrazyEyez <mailto:bmkreco...@gmail.com> 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:50 PM

Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

honestly this is stupid. 

Another money grab.

You'll never ever replace the cane.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) mailto:garcesp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everyone, 

Thought this might be interesting to read.

 

 


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/


Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired


Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace canes and 
guide dogs


 <https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/dalvin-brown/> Dalvin Brown  

March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT



Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered backpack to help 
visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel)  

Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s designed to 
audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly hazardous situations 
like crosswalks or strangers.

The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could face 
years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. Still, the 
product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as progress in AI and 
machine learning increasingly help people with vision issues better perceive 
their environments and, therefore, live more independently.

The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who took 
existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system that seeks 
to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.

Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to Jagadish K. 
Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who also 
specializes in computer vision for robots.

 
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/19/smart-wheelchairs/?itid=lk_interstitial_manual_11>
 What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.

“I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing problems to me 
that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, I’ve been 
teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot see things 
and need help,” Mahendran said.

There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It looks like an 
ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, inside. A 
match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outside.

In a demonstration video, the user also wears a vest with tiny holes to conceal 
an embedded AI camera. When connected to the computer, the 4K camera captures 
depth and color information used to help people avoid things like hanging 
branches. The camera can also be embedded in a fanny pack or other waist-worn 
pouches.

The spatial camera, built by the computer vision company Luxonis, can

RE: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

[Larry Lumpkin]

The books would still have been on bard for re-download.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

I don't know about voice dream reader, but I know with bard mobile at this 
time, there isn't a thing you can do about it.  I've got over
1400 bard books on bard mobile.  That is the main reason why when my lower 
speaker went out on my iPhone 8, I didn't get it replaced with a new one.  I 
have apple care plus, so it wouldn't have cost me a thing to get a new iPhone 
8.  I'm not going to lose all those bard books I got over the past 2 years.  If 
I had gotten a new iPhone 8, I would have had to send back my current iPhone 8 
which would have meant, all my bard books in bard mobile would have been gone.

On 5/21/21, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> When I moved from an iPhone 6 to an 8, I lost everything in BARD 
> Mobile and I think Voice Dream Reader. Then, when I went from an 8 to 
> my current 10 XS, it happened *AGAIN*! Today, I learned that upgrading 
> to the 12 Pro Max is a simple phone swap and a reset on my payment 
> plan, which was a nice surprise, so I'll probably do it before the 
> trade-in price of the 10 XS drops! What can I do to make sure I don't 
> lose my VDR and BARD books and mas? Not that somethin  sure a box is 
> checked? To that end, in the list of applications that will be backed 
> up, both BARD and VDR are checked, but the amount of data they showw 
> ill be backed up is minuscule compared to what I know is really in 
> there--about seventy braille ma in BARD and about 2.5GB of audio content in 
> VDR.
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RE: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Larry Lumpkin]

I pull classical music into my library and it satisfies me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

Well, the audience is certainly bigger than voiceover users. Not that they 
shouldn’t do stuff for voiceover users, but they’re a huge company. And there’s 
just no reason for them not to have a better search mechanism. If a little 
dinky companies like tidal and prime phonic can do it, Apple really has zero 
excuse.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Apple is a rich company. It is also a big company, with more 
> than one billion iPhones in active use. It is likely that classical 
> music is too small an audience to devote a lot of resources.  
> Classical lovers are better off ripping CD’s and transferring them to 
> their device or finding classical radio streams they like.
> 
>> On 5/14/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I have no idea. All I know is that Apple is a very rich company. 
>> They’re really getting into services. And maybe classical just isn’t 
>> big enough for them to mess with, but so far prime phonic is still in 
>> business. Maybe what they need to do is buy prime phonic, but not 
>> screw it up like they did with Siri, rather let prime phonic show apple how 
>> classical music should be done.
>> It’s really a good service, although the Accessibility is not that great.
>> That’s why I want Apple to get their stuff together.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder if they use a different database than perhaps other services.
>>> Or, the CD itself had Bach as the Artist.
>>> I know I ran across that a lot with CD’s that I ripped into iTunes.
>>> I spent too much time editing the tagging so the Artist was actually 
>>> the artist and not the composer, etc.
>>> 
>>> Pretty stupid.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>>> but what they become by it."
>>> 
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 5:21 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Malcolm. I’ll have to check out that site. I was really 
>>> interested in this new service the Apple is supposed to offer. But I 
>>> surely do wish they would get their classical act together. People 
>>> have been complaining for years, but I guess we’re such a small group that 
>>> Apple doesn’t care.
>>> It’s not like they don’t have the resources.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The short answer to the question is no.
>>> 
>>> Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical 
>>> music.
>>> 
>>> Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  
>>> Or I have followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of 
>>> interest.
>>> 
>>> What I normally do is use the following site then type an 
>>> interesting result into Apple Music and then listen to what I am interested 
>>> in.
>>> 
>>> https://www.prestomusic.com/classical
>>> 
>>> I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not 
>>> show when searching by their facility alone.
>>> His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi Mary,
>>> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach 
>>> Brandenburg concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 
>>> concertos recorded by the English Consort.
>>> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small 
>>> minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting 
>>> for them to get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s 
>>> ridiculous that you can’t search for composers. You can’t enter the 
>>> name of a composer and a specific piece. You may get stuff, single 
>>> movements of piano Concerto’s mixed in with God knows what else. For 
>>> a company that is supposed to be so great, they are the worst when 
>>> it comes to classical. I know it’s not too popular, but a lot of 
>>> people who buy high resolution streaming services like classical 
>>> period and Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has anyone 
>>> found a way around Apple Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where 
>>> you cannot search for a composer and a specific piece 

RE: Money apps

[Larry Lumpkin]

I use Eyenote on 14.5.1 and it has always worked beautifully.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Money apps

Actually, EyeNote will work.
It may take some extra trials and errors but I got it working on my SE 2020 
with iOS 14.5.1.
Try this.
Delete the ap.
Reboot your phone.
Download the app again.
Before opening the app, go to settings, eyenote, and give it permission to use 
the camera.
Then, run the app.
See if it works then.




Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



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Villeda
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Money apps

For some reason, Eye note will not read money using iOS 14.5.1.
I used to have seeing AI, but I could never get the currency app to read.


On May 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:

You could get either a EyeNote or if you have Seeing AI it has a part in it to 
read currency.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good money reading app?
> The free version of cash reader, will not read  anything above a 10, and I 
> will not be using any other currency, so it doesn’t make sense to get a paid 
> subscription.
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RE: iPhone directions.

[Larry Lumpkin]

BlindSquare is only $40 or so. You might consider that to make 
direction-finding easier if one of you is blind. I like it a lot.


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Lumpkin
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Subject: RE: iPhone directions.

If siri isn't doing its job, I'd call apple.


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OK, you can also open the Maps app, and then in the search box, you can use the 
dictate button. And tell her the address that way. Then hit search then tap on 
the place then hit start.

> On May 9, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> Today, we started to leave, and I pushed the Siri Button and
> said:
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> Driving directions to 2919 Beechtree Drive, Sanford, NC. She never did 
> a thing. I did the same once again, said she was checking. That's all 
> that happened.
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RE: iPhone directions.

[Larry Lumpkin]

If siri isn't doing its job, I'd call apple.


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Subject: Re: iPhone directions.

OK, you can also open the Maps app, and then in the search box, you can use the 
dictate button. And tell her the address that way. Then hit search then tap on 
the place then hit start.

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RE: Eyenote, and other apps, was Scanning Money

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hi Richard Et al. I just installed eyenote on my se2020 running 14.5.1 and all 
worked splendidly. I’ve had no trouble with the app.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Eyenote, and other apps, was Scanning Money

 

Good morning,

 

I was shocked yesterday when I couldn’t get a peep out of EyeNote on 14.5.1.

I deleted and reinstalled, still nothing.

It didn’t ask for camera permission when I reinstalled it.

Seeing AI, TapTapSee, and Cash reader all worked fine.

 

I got it working today by doing these steps, whether they work for anyone else, 
time will tell.

 

I deleted Eyenote.

I rebooted my phone.

I re-downloaded EyeNote.

I went to the settings before launching Eyenote as I was curious and the 
Eyenote settings said camera off.

I launched Eyenote, and no money identification.  But it also did not ask 
permission.

I app switched back to settings and turned on the camera  permission.

Bingo, it recognized money as quickly as it ever did.

I went back to settings, and turned on the show menu, where you can choose 
whether it speaks, plays a serious of tones, or vibrates in a pattern for 
privacy.

It still worked perfectly fine.

 

So, something must have gotten corrupt with it, but deleting it and rebooting 
seems to have cleared it up.

 

I hope this works for anyone else having the same problem.

I am on the SE 2020, iOS 14.5.1.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

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RE: configuring an iphone for a new user

[Larry Lumpkin]

Great post. Thanks very much.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: configuring an iphone for a new user

 

Hi, 

 

Here are a few settings I adjust when doing initial IOS training. Once the 
student has an initial knowledge, I alter some of these. I am referring to IOS 
14.x here. 

 

1. Turn on "Do Not DisturB".  This will prevent notifications from disturbing 
the class. If your phone also had cell service, it would prevent phone calls 
from disturbing you as well. 

 

Settings / Do Not Disturb

 

2. Turn off "Autolock" by setting it to "never". This prevents the student's 
phone from locking every few minutes while in the class.

 

Settings / Display & Brightness / Autolock

 

Note - you may want to reset these two items after the class if the student 
will be taking the phone away with them. 

 

3. If the student is a Voiceover-only user, turn on the "screen curtain" to 
save some battery usage. 

 

3-finger tripple tap

 

4. If Voiceover is being used, make sure "hints" are turned on. 

 

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Verbosity / Speak hints

 

5. If Voiceover is being used, set the Voiceover volume so both the instructor 
and the student can hear it. If in an area where you need to be quiet, consider 
using a splitter so two sets of earpods or headphones can be used at the same 
time. 

 

Volume buttons or add "volume" to the rotor

 

6. Set SIRI options to display its responses and your spoken inputs. This will 
help the student while learning to use SIRI. 

 

Settings / SIRI & Search / SIRI Responses 

 

7. If cell service is available, set the phone option to use "full screen" for 
calls. This avoids the difficulties for beginners in dealing with the one-line 
display mode on calls. 

 

Settings / Phone / Incoming calls

 

8. Initially, set typing style to "standard" when working with the on-screen 
keyboard. Once the student is comfortable with the on-screen keyboard you can 
introduce the other typing styles. 

 

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / typing / typing style

 

There are likely other settings one could adjust. Much depends on the model of 
phone, the IOS version, the usage the student will make of the phone, and their 
current level of knowledge / skill with it. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


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I am configuring an iphone with no cell service to help a new user learn it. 
I’d like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as 
stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also 
turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can’t find the 
setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further steps I could take to accomplish 
my goal? Thanks.

 

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RE: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash

[Larry Lumpkin]

I find that focus jumps a lot.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash

 

I use Door Dash frequently. Some aspects have made it less convenient, but to 
say that it is inaccessible or impossible to use is a stretch. One issue is 
that the order button is not labeled, but if you have used the app at all you 
know what it is.

 

I think there is a difference between inconvenience and inaccessibility.

Andy

 

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From: Larry Lumpkin <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>  

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Subject: the faltering accessibility of DoorDash

 

I used DoorDash some months ago and found it very accessible. Now it is almost 
unusable. Has this been the experience of anyone else?

 

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RE: configuring an iphone for a new user

[Larry Lumpkin]

Good ideas. Thanks. I was looking for "Orientation lock".

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Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: configuring an iphone for a new user

Turn off Shake to Undo, and maybe also put it on rotation lock, so that it 
stays on portrait. 

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I am configuring an iphone with no cell service to help a new user learn it. 
I’d like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as 
stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also 
turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can’t find the 
setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further steps I could take to accomplish 
my goal? Thanks.

 

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the faltering accessibility of DoorDash

[Larry Lumpkin]

I used DoorDash some months ago and found it very accessible. Now it is
almost unusable. Has this been the experience of anyone else?

 

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RE: Bank of America App

[Larry Lumpkin]

I found the same thing you did. It disappoints that a bank that large would not 
keep up the accessibility on their app.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bank of America App

 

Hello,

 

I’ve downloaded the bank of America app to my iPhone 8 with the latest IOS 
update and find that it is not very accessible. 

 

I received a verification code which I entered but then it was very difficult 
to find a continue button. I actually called AIRA and they were able to help me 
find it using another iPhone to check the screen. There were 2 buttons which 
were not labeled so that I could say whether I wanted the device to be 
remembered and AIRA had to tell me which button was which; yes or no.  

 

Okay, so I got logged in and selected one of the tabs on the bottom just to 
check out what was in there and then I couldn’t find a back button and the Z 
scrub didn’t work. I couldn’t even sign out of the app so I just closed out of 
the app and will wait for the session to time out to log me out.

 

Does anyone have any work arounds for this app or am I doing something wrong? 
Is it just not accessible? Maybe it’s slightly usable?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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a difference between the iphone 7 and the SE2020 in IOS14

[Larry Lumpkin]

When I check for updates on the iphone 7, when I draw focus to the app store
icon on the home screen, it informs me of the number of updates I have. This
doesn't seem to be happening on the SE2020. Any thoughts?

 

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configuring an iphone for a new user

[Larry Lumpkin]

I am configuring an iphone with no cell service to help a new user learn it.
I'd like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as
stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also
turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can't find the
setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further steps I could take to
accomplish my goal? Thanks.

 

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RE: Scanning money

[Larry Lumpkin]

It might be INote. I can’t remember the exact spelling.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John J. 
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:58 PM
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Subject: Scanning money

 

Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using to 
scan money at this point?

Thanks. 

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RE: Scanning money

[Larry Lumpkin]

I use EyeNote from the treasury department. It’s interface has absolutely no 
controls in it but just presents a blank screen which leads you to believe that 
it isn’t accessible. But it is. Just wave the phone over a bill and it will 
say, for example, five dollars front. It tells you the fronts and backs of 
bills if you need that info but there is absolutely no way to configure the app 
that I have found. It is free however.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John J. 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:58 PM
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Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using to 
scan money at this point?

Thanks. 

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RE: alternative pod cast player

[Larry Lumpkin]

I like icatcher a lot. It isn’t free but well worth the $5 in my opinion.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternative pod cast player

 

get Overcast. You won't look back. It is so far superior to the native podcast 
app that I do not have the words to explain. 

Try it out and check out the settings.

It is free.

 

 

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On May 3, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Dan mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have been using the podcast player that comes with Iphones.  However, for the 
past few software releases one of the functions I really liked about it has 
gone away.

 

I really liked the way I could download an episode and then tell it to add that 
episode to the up next list.  Now though, that seems to have gone away so I 
can't find a way to add an episode to a up next kind of list.

 

Is there a free podcast player app out there that is accessible and will let me 
do this kind of thing?

 

Thanks.

 

 

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RE: In need of assistance

[Larry Lumpkin]

I was referring to the blindShell.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

I am not sure I understand this post?  Are you referring to another phone?

Kait

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:47 AM Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

I think most vendors offer 30-day trials. If the phone meets her needs, who 
cares whether you can get rid of it or not.


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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Cryptic responses like this help no one.
Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?

We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
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Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
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> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
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>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
&g

RE: In need of assistance

[Larry Lumpkin]

I think most vendors offer 30-day trials. If the phone meets her needs, who 
cares whether you can get rid of it or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Cryptic responses like this help no one.
Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?

We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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Web site: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because when you 
get that phone you can’t get rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful 
> research. 
> 
> I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT and is 
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is 
> having some real issues; she can't even sell it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
> be easier for your grandmother. 
> 
> The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
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> 
> 
>On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Kait,
> 
> 
> 
>This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
> adaptive technology.
> 
> 
> 
>Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult in 
> the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
> screen reader then you really start having clashs 
> 
>I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a mobile 
> and computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>As you say just take it one step at a time,
> 
> 
> 
>As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 
> 
>She should be able to use it to call 911,
> 
> 
> 
>The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
> times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> 
> 
> 
>Which may or may not be a good thing,
> 
> 
> 
>Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has an 
> alert for people that have fallen 
> 
>So if you had a watch for your gran,
> 
>The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency services 
> know that she had fallen.
> 
> 
> 
>Hope this is of some use,
> 
>Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kait Forbes
>Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> 
> 
> 
>okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will 
> be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's 
> just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  
> nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this 
> and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that 
> I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time 
> with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm 
> her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a 
> time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in 
> time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here 
> and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon 
> realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the plate for her as she was 
> for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you here but if 
> you could see your way clear to assisting 

RE: In need of assistance

[Larry Lumpkin]

It is.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

Is the Blind Shell classic at elast a 4G phone?

No one should put money into anything less than a 4G phone since 3G is going 
fast.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

I, too, am a former rehab teacher as was my wife. If your grandmother is newly 
blinded and has never used technology before, she may have a very difficult 
time in mastering what is for sure a complex piece of technology. Might I 
suggest something that might be, to her, much easier and more satisfying. There 
are several made for the blind special-purpose phones. I think the least 
expensive of these is the blindShell Classic which sells for around $350. I 
know this is expensive but it might be the best solution for her.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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RE: In need of assistance

[Larry Lumpkin]

I, too, am a former rehab teacher as was my wife. If your grandmother is newly 
blinded and has never used technology before, she may have a very difficult 
time in mastering what is for sure a complex piece of technology. Might I 
suggest something that might be, to her, much easier and more satisfying. There 
are several made for the blind special-purpose phones. I think the least 
expensive of these is the blindShell Classic which sells for around $350. I 
know this is expensive but it might be the best solution for her.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?

Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? 
Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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RE: In need of assistance

[Larry Lumpkin]

A bit more descriptive subject would be helpful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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Re: EcoBee Thermostat

[Larry Smith]

Hi. I use the ecobee app with my ecobee 4 thermostat. I also use the Alexa as 
well as the Siri home and google apps. The ecobee app is VoiceOver accessible. 

> On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Does anyone have experience with using the EcoBee thermostat, either with the 
> app or the one that works with Alexa?  Any comments on its accessibility?
>  
> Thanks,
> Pam
>  
>  
>  
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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Larry Lumpkin]

Thanks Richard. Great steps. I thought I’d gone through that earlier but when I 
followed your steps exactly, it worked. It asked for my passcode instead of 
password but entered it and it took. Again, Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

The steps are:

One, open settings, Touch ID and Passcode.

2.  enter your passcode.

3.  Find the button that says Turn Off passcode and double tap.

4.  You will have to confirm you want to do this on the next screen.

5.  You will be asked for your Apple ID password, enter it and activate turn 
off passcode again.

Lastly, you will have to enter your passcode again before it will actually turn 
it off.

 

I just did it and rebooted and it stay off.

 

Now, I recreated it because I want the protection of a passcode.

 

 

 

Richard

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they become by it."

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Yes. 

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. It 
lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t want 
either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

 

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RE: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Larry Lumpkin]

There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I did 
find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off but when 
I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very disappointed. 
This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use and learn on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

 

Yes. 

There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.

Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, go 
to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, then go 
and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.

Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
passtcode.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

 

Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. It 
lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t want 
either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

 

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IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can't get past the pass code screen. It
lets me skip touch id but I'm in a loop on the pass code screen. I don't
want either and can' seem to get around this. Am I missing something?

 

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RE: Time to grab IOS 14.5

[Larry Lumpkin]

Can you change the subject please.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb Cook 
Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Time to grab IOS 14.5

Well the question was, could you use the newer app with the old model, I don't 
think so.
The newer app is still in the app store if it would work.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Time to grab IOS 14.5

No, you cannot use the older app with the new model. I have both models.
Thanks 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb Cook 
Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5

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No, you cannot use the newer app with the old pots in my experience.
If someone knows differently, I'm all ears please.
I will lose the Instant Pot and my weight scale when i get a new phone so my 
hope was to keep my 8+ around for just that purpose so I'd like to not lose the 
IP bluetooth model just yet. I know there's always a risk.

On 4/27/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It may help if you mentioned exactly which app you use, e.g. name and 
> version number which you can find either in the app store app or if 
> you open the app and find where in Settings or Help this information 
> appears, but most apps do show this information. I have never bought 
> an Instant Pot yet because I don't like their flaky approach to 
> accessibility, but I thought you can also use the newer app with the older 
> Bluetooth pots?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Danny Keys
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5
>
> OK,
> The Instant Pot and the Bluetooth app are working just fine.
> Note.
> This  the older Bluetooth model, not the Wi-Fi model.
> I’m running iOS 15 and on an iPhone SE second gen.
> So, I don’t know what’s going on. Of course, I cant say that you will 
> have the same success. But I hope you do.
> Again. This is the older Bluetooth app.
> I uninstalled it several months back. Then several weeks ago, I went 
> back through my purchase history and reinstalled the app while under iOS 14.
> At least here, it is working under iOS 15.
>
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Danny Keys  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Ok.
>> I’ll post in a short while in either case.
>> Just give me a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Kay Malmquist 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dan,
>>> I hate to sound bossy, but could you do this asap?  Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to 
>>> tell anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call 
>>> attention to their shining - just shine.
>>> Dwight L. Moody - 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Danny Keys" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Time to grab IOS 14.5
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> This is the app I download it I think in 2016 or 17.
>>>
>>> I removed it from the phone several months ago.
>>>
>>> A month or so ago I reinstalled it on the phone just to see if it 
>>> would work whenever the new update came out.
>>>
>>> So far, at least the app is accessible.
>>>
>>> Sometime in the next few days I'll give it a try with the Insta pot 
>>> and see how it does.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 ?Wow! That's interesting. I wonder why am I still not working.


 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Danny Keys  wrote:
>
> ?hi,
>
> Well I haven't connected to the Insta pot today I did open the app 
> on iOS
> 14.5 it does open and it does go to all the menus.
>
> note I'm using an iPhone SE second generation.
>
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Deb Cook Lewis 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>
>> ?Is it still true that if we update to 14.5, the Bluetooth 
>> Instant Pot will no longer work as previously reported by beta 
>> testers? My phone is old and doesn't benefit much from updates 
>> except of course for security, but I won't update it if I lose 
>> access to my instant pot.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Gordon
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Time to grab IOS 14.5
>>
>> The long wait is over, IOS 14.5 has just been released.
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RE: Doordash App

[Larry Lumpkin]

It's my understanding that the ACB is trying to connect with them on this as 
well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Doordash App

I did leave a review in the app store pointing out these horrible focus 
inconsistencies.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Doordash App

I've tweeted them, b/c DD help usually responds on Twitter to issues. Haven't 
received a response.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Janusauskas
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 3:49 PM
To: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Doordash App


Sounds like several have observed the regression in accessibility. Has anyone 
actually reported the issues to DoorDash to make them aware?


> On Apr 25, 2021, at 2:41 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello again everyone,
> 
> 
> This is for you all that might use the Doordash App.
> 
> 
> Have you all noticed that for a while now, the App doesn't seem as accessible?
> 
> Not that it was ever 100 percent accessible. But I feel it used to be much 
> better. I can't seem to scroll through the list of restaurants anymore. It 
> seems as though the App keeps refreshing or something. It is very annoying! 
> We use this App sometimes several times a month. So it makes it a problem 
> when I struggle to use it.
> 
> 
> I have also noticed that I struggle to add items to the cart, when I am 
> trying to work with previous orders we have placed.
> 
> However, I have gotten this to work a few times.
> 
> 
> What has been your experiences with the App lately?
> 
> And are there possible work arounds I am not aware of.
> 
> I do use the search feature, when I know exactly what restaurant we want to 
> order from.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

[Larry Lumpkin]

Possible 10 or 15 years ago, I bought my first set and did not find the dongle 
before throwing away the packaging. I called customer service and purchased two 
exgtra dongles.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

No, each H800 dongle  is headset specific.  You cannot get replacement dongles 
for the H800 headsets and this is from Logitech tech support themselves.  I 
talked to them a week ago because I wanted to get another dongle for my headset 
and this is what I was told.  If I'm wrong, blame their tech support and if 
anyone would like to check here's their contact info.

 

Email:  supp...@logi.com <mailto:supp...@logi.com> 


Phone numbers:  1-866-632-5644  or,  1 646-454-3200


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Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Larry Lumpkin <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 9:53 AM

Subject: RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

Logitech will sell you a replacement dongle but pairing it using their app to 
do so is very difficult to do and requires sighted assistance.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

Once found, the dongle stores beautifully in the left ear piece.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

If you are unboxing the unit, the dongle is wedged somewhere in the plastic, or 
at least ours was when we bought it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

Alan, it's very small, about the size of a smaller handed person's thumb nail.  
It's got a USB port on the end and a smooth end opposite the USB port.  It's 
been a few years since I've unboxed mine, but it was tucked into the bottom 
layer of packaging, in a tiny plastic babby.  I had to physically remove each 
piece of card board just so I wouldn't miss it.  I only thought to do this 
because Logitech also packages their USB keyboard dongles in this manner.

 

If that doesn't work, it's possible they put it in the left earpiece.  There's 
a little compartment that swings out that stores the dongle when not in use.  
The boom mic is on the right earpiece just to make finding it easier.

 

Hope this helps some.

 

Lisa

 

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com> 

On 4/26/2021 10:38 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi List,

 

I got the Logitech H800 headset that I’ve heard about many times on this list 
as a gift for a friend. My friend was unable to find the USB dongle in order to 
use the headset with her computer and I’m hoping someone who has got one of 
these recently can provide some info about the dongle’s physical 
characteristics and where it might be found. Through the years, I’ve gotten a 
variety of products with USB dongles and know they are sometimes housed within 
the device itself as opposed to being packed separately in the shipping 
container. 

 

Any help you can provide with this issue will be greatly appreciated. I 
downloaded the user manual from Amazon but didn’t find it very helpful as it 
contained multiple languages and was hard to read. Any other info you can 
provide about this headset will also be appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

[Larry Lumpkin]

Logitech will sell you a replacement dongle but pairing it using their app to 
do so is very difficult to do and requires sighted assistance.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

Once found, the dongle stores beautifully in the left ear piece.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

If you are unboxing the unit, the dongle is wedged somewhere in the plastic, or 
at least ours was when we bought it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

Alan, it's very small, about the size of a smaller handed person's thumb nail.  
It's got a USB port on the end and a smooth end opposite the USB port.  It's 
been a few years since I've unboxed mine, but it was tucked into the bottom 
layer of packaging, in a tiny plastic babby.  I had to physically remove each 
piece of card board just so I wouldn't miss it.  I only thought to do this 
because Logitech also packages their USB keyboard dongles in this manner.

 

If that doesn't work, it's possible they put it in the left earpiece.  There's 
a little compartment that swings out that stores the dongle when not in use.  
The boom mic is on the right earpiece just to make finding it easier.

 

Hope this helps some.

 

Lisa

 

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com> 

On 4/26/2021 10:38 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi List,

 

I got the Logitech H800 headset that I’ve heard about many times on this list 
as a gift for a friend. My friend was unable to find the USB dongle in order to 
use the headset with her computer and I’m hoping someone who has got one of 
these recently can provide some info about the dongle’s physical 
characteristics and where it might be found. Through the years, I’ve gotten a 
variety of products with USB dongles and know they are sometimes housed within 
the device itself as opposed to being packed separately in the shipping 
container. 

 

Any help you can provide with this issue will be greatly appreciated. I 
downloaded the user manual from Amazon but didn’t find it very helpful as it 
contained multiple languages and was hard to read. Any other info you can 
provide about this headset will also be appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

[Larry Lumpkin]

Once found, the dongle stores beautifully in the left ear piece.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

If you are unboxing the unit, the dongle is wedged somewhere in the plastic, or 
at least ours was when we bought it.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

Alan, it's very small, about the size of a smaller handed person's thumb nail.  
It's got a USB port on the end and a smooth end opposite the USB port.  It's 
been a few years since I've unboxed mine, but it was tucked into the bottom 
layer of packaging, in a tiny plastic babby.  I had to physically remove each 
piece of card board just so I wouldn't miss it.  I only thought to do this 
because Logitech also packages their USB keyboard dongles in this manner.

 

If that doesn't work, it's possible they put it in the left earpiece.  There's 
a little compartment that swings out that stores the dongle when not in use.  
The boom mic is on the right earpiece just to make finding it easier.

 

Hope this helps some.

 

Lisa

 

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com> 

On 4/26/2021 10:38 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi List,

 

I got the Logitech H800 headset that I’ve heard about many times on this list 
as a gift for a friend. My friend was unable to find the USB dongle in order to 
use the headset with her computer and I’m hoping someone who has got one of 
these recently can provide some info about the dongle’s physical 
characteristics and where it might be found. Through the years, I’ve gotten a 
variety of products with USB dongles and know they are sometimes housed within 
the device itself as opposed to being packed separately in the shipping 
container. 

 

Any help you can provide with this issue will be greatly appreciated. I 
downloaded the user manual from Amazon but didn’t find it very helpful as it 
contained multiple languages and was hard to read. Any other info you can 
provide about this headset will also be appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

[Larry Lumpkin]

If you are unboxing the unit, the dongle is wedged somewhere in the plastic, or 
at least ours was when we bought it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Alan Lemly 
Subject: Re: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

 

Alan, it's very small, about the size of a smaller handed person's thumb nail.  
It's got a USB port on the end and a smooth end opposite the USB port.  It's 
been a few years since I've unboxed mine, but it was tucked into the bottom 
layer of packaging, in a tiny plastic babby.  I had to physically remove each 
piece of card board just so I wouldn't miss it.  I only thought to do this 
because Logitech also packages their USB keyboard dongles in this manner.

 

If that doesn't work, it's possible they put it in the left earpiece.  There's 
a little compartment that swings out that stores the dongle when not in use.  
The boom mic is on the right earpiece just to make finding it easier.

 

Hope this helps some.

 

Lisa

 

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com  

On 4/26/2021 10:38 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi List,

 

I got the Logitech H800 headset that I’ve heard about many times on this list 
as a gift for a friend. My friend was unable to find the USB dongle in order to 
use the headset with her computer and I’m hoping someone who has got one of 
these recently can provide some info about the dongle’s physical 
characteristics and where it might be found. Through the years, I’ve gotten a 
variety of products with USB dongles and know they are sometimes housed within 
the device itself as opposed to being packed separately in the shipping 
container. 

 

Any help you can provide with this issue will be greatly appreciated. I 
downloaded the user manual from Amazon but didn’t find it very helpful as it 
contained multiple languages and was hard to read. Any other info you can 
provide about this headset will also be appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Can I add titles to Apple Music library that are not available through the app but which I can add from a CD

[Larry Lumpkin]

That may be ITunes match and not apple music.

 

 

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through the app but which I can add from a CD

 

Hi Amy,

 

I don't use Apple Music, but my understanding is that if you import a CD, it 
will be available for download on all of your devices.

 

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Question says it all.

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a real mess in my contacts on my new SE2020

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hi, When I looked at contacts in my new Se2020 after I logged into my
account, I discovered I had pages of contacts, many of which I no longer
needed and many many duplicates. Is there any way to delete all contacts and
start over. I don't have many to enter and it would be much easier to just
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RE: Can't find column brouser in itunes

[Larry Lumpkin]

When I selected songs I found it.

 

 

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I use the column brouser a lot in itunes and can’t find it in the latest 
update. Anyone know where it moved?

 

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Can't find column brouser in itunes

[Larry Lumpkin]

I use the column brouser a lot in itunes and can't find it in the latest
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RE: 3GP format in voice dream reader

[Larry Lumpkin]

It isn’t a DRM.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 3GP format in voice dream reader

 

Voice Dream cannot used DRM daisy books, only non-DRM.

So, try it and see what happens.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 12:54 PM
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I should have added that this format is the one used in some daisy books I’ve 
acquired.

 

 

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Hi. Will the old 3GP audio format NLS first used in the original stream work in 
VoiceDream reader?

 

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RE: 3GP format in voice dream reader

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I should have added that this format is the one used in some daisy books I’ve 
acquired.

 

 

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Hi. Will the old 3GP audio format NLS first used in the original stream work in 
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Hi. Will the old 3GP audio format NLS first used in the original stream work
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RE: accessible recumbent exercise bicycle

[Larry Lumpkin]

Ok. Thanks.

 

 

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No, but I did reach out to them and they do have some with a talking feature.

 

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Is the bike you referenced in your fist message an IFit.

 

 

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Hello I bought this bike from Amazon last year

 

Exerpeutic Easy Step Thru Magnetic Recumbent Exercise Bike 
<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fdp%2FB08BN6PWWN%2Fref%3Dcm_sw_r_em_apip_6otCkuwtesezD=04%7C01%7Claurys%40michigan.gov%7C212e7570290e41b8a32208d904e20590%7Cd5fb7087377742ad966a892ef47225d1%7C0%7C0%7C637546191071115525%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=vrfgm2QkRjdz0N7ImUAg%2FNFq9V9tiy2KhxEI32M31Y8%3D=0>
 

 

I use an app called my cloud fitness with it and I am able to get my status 
such as calories, time, miles, heart rate, ETC. 

 

The app does have plans available for cost but I don’t use that. I select 
manual and ride for a certain amount of time. It also keeps track of your stats 
if you want to go back and look at it later. 

 

This is not the only bike that works with this app.

HTH

Thanks 

 

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RE: accessible recumbent exercise bicycle

[Larry Lumpkin]

Is the bike you referenced in your fist message an IFit.

 

 

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Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:45 AM
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Subject: RE: accessible recumbent exercise bicycle

 

Hello I bought this bike from Amazon last year

 

Exerpeutic Easy Step Thru Magnetic Recumbent Exercise Bike 
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I use an app called my cloud fitness with it and I am able to get my status 
such as calories, time, miles, heart rate, ETC. 

 

The app does have plans available for cost but I don’t use that. I select 
manual and ride for a certain amount of time. It also keeps track of your stats 
if you want to go back and look at it later. 

 

This is not the only bike that works with this app.

HTH

Thanks 

 

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RE: accessible recumbent exercise bicycle

[Larry Lumpkin]

We’re looking for a bike my wife can set through accessible talking menus.

 

 

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Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:45 AM
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Subject: RE: accessible recumbent exercise bicycle

 

Hello I bought this bike from Amazon last year

 

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I use an app called my cloud fitness with it and I am able to get my status 
such as calories, time, miles, heart rate, ETC. 

 

The app does have plans available for cost but I don’t use that. I select 
manual and ride for a certain amount of time. It also keeps track of your stats 
if you want to go back and look at it later. 

 

This is not the only bike that works with this app.

HTH

Thanks 

 

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accessible recumbent exercise bicycle

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Hello, Does anyone know of an accessible recumbent exercise bicycle?

 

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RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Larry Lumpkin]

I looked on my imap account and went to advanced. I saw an option for how long 
to keep deleted messages but nothing about leaving them on the server or 
not.I’m running 14.4 and a new se2020

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Go into Settings, Mail, then Accounts.  Double tap on the account you want to 
change.  Then go to Advanced.  You’ll find the setting there. 

 

I have one account on which I have messages deleted from the server, and one 
that I have messages left on the server so I can access them from my laptop.

 

Karen P

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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I am not sure it is on the iOS device for POP3 accounts, you set that on the 
web side, like for Gmail.

I am not finding it for iMap on the iOS device either.  Maybe I should do 
research before replying?

But, all my accounts are set up as iMap, and I don’t permanently delete 
messages until I’m on my computer out of habit from the old days.

This might be worth a call to Apple to double check the official word.

 

Until later,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

Good morning Richard,

 

Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
Thanks much.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

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Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

 

If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your 
phone. 

Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.

If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
leave messages on the server.

HTH,

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still doing 
this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most of my 
interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail from the 
server.

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keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles
from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still
doing this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most
of my interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail
from the server.

 

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goodmaps

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Doesn't goodmaps use open streetmaps and doesn't the app have intersection
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RE: a lot of unwanted apps I'd like to not see

[Larry Lumpkin]

She’s considering Hadley and we bought your iphone book many years ago and may 
get the new one when it comes out. Thanks.

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 9:34 AM
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Subject: Re: a lot of unwanted apps I'd like to not see

 

Hi Larry,

 

My book Getting Started with the iPhone is about to be released by National 
Braille Press. This is an updated version designed to help beginners get 
started, and it will be available in several formats. It's currently listed on 
their site, but the link to the book page doesn't work, so I assume it's not 
quite out but should be very soon.

 

appleVis has lots of information for new users, and there are tutorials at 
Hadley as well.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Apr 14, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

Sounds simple enough, smile. Thanks. My wife thinks she’d like to tackle the 
IOS eco system. Can you suggest any good, detailed, very positive, and 
supportive tutorial for that? Thanks.

 

 

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Hi Larry,

 

Turn on Edit Mode by tapping any app on the home screen, flicking up or down to 
Edit Mode, and double-tapping. Now find an app you want to delete, flick up or 
down to Delete, and double-tap. Follow the instructions to either remove the 
app from your home screen or delete it entirely.

 

Best,

Anna

 






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I remember that once you could delete or hide apps you didn’t want to deal 
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Can someone point me to instructions on how to do this.

 

 

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[Larry Lumpkin]

Sounds simple enough, smile. Thanks. My wife thinks she’d like to tackle the 
IOS eco system. Can you suggest any good, detailed, very positive, and 
supportive tutorial for that? Thanks.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
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Subject: Re: a lot of unwanted apps I'd like to not see

 

Hi Larry,

 

Turn on Edit Mode by tapping any app on the home screen, flicking up or down to 
Edit Mode, and double-tapping. Now find an app you want to delete, flick up or 
down to Delete, and double-tap. Follow the instructions to either remove the 
app from your home screen or delete it entirely.

 

Best,

Anna

 





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