Re: Is an app called Glip accessible

[Shaf Patel]

How about downloading the app and checking its accessibility yourself?


On 8/12/2017 10:11 AM, eden...@comcast.net wrote:
> Hello, I am about to start a new job hopefully, but I need to know if
> Glip is accessible. It's a chat or connecting type app from Ring Central.
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Re: Shopping in the UK

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Asda have an accessible app.


On 8/11/2017 12:14 PM, 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
>  
>
> This is IPhone related but further down.
>
>  
>
> Tesco have just revamped their grocery website which the accessability
> is now really bad.
>
>  
>
> Can people recommend Sainsbury, Morrisons or ASDA?
>
>  
>
> And related to this e-mail list.  If their website is accessable how
> accessable are their IPhone apps.
>
>  
>
> Cheers
>
> Martin
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My Review of Aira

[Shaf Patel]

I've been using Aira for almost a month, and it's been incredible. Read
my review here in this thread on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/ShafPatel/status/893223374851379200

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Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external scanner?

[Shaf Patel]

Doesn't Screen Curtain being turned on save battery, regardless of what
the brightness level is set to?


On 7/18/2017 4:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
> just add to what Richard said, remember to up your brightness if, like
> me, you keep it at zero for battery saving reasons.
>
> Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 18 Jul 2017, at 02:50, Richard Turner  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Make sure the screen curtain is turned off.
>>
>> Then, do a screen shot with the home and power buttons pressed together.
>>
>> Then, share that screen shot with an app like KNFB Reader, Seeing AI,
>> Prizmo Go, and they should be able to get some of the text.
>>
>> The issue you will have is how clear and crisp the text is.
>>
>> Digital newspapers are not known for being terribly clear.
>>
>>  
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Flor Lynch
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 17, 2017 2:36 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an
>> external scanner?
>>
>>  
>>
>> With VoiceOver off, sighties can zoom in and enlarge or decrease the
>> text size. With VO on, this option apparently disappears.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I tried scanning such a screen on my PC, and got a blank page. Speak
>> Screen doesn’t work either, either with or without VoiceOver on.
>> (Siri says, “sorry, there is nothing to read here”. Well there is,
>> Siri girl.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*Flor Lynch 
>>
>> *Sent:*Monday, July 17, 2017 5:40 PM
>>
>> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> *Subject:*Scanning and OCR of text on iPhone screen with an external
>> scanner?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Has anyone ever tried doing OCR from an external scanner where text
>> of an article onscreen on the iPhone (or iDevice) cannot be read by
>> VoiceOver. I’m thinking of digital newspaper text on the iPhone
>> screen that is not/cannot be read by VoiceOver. Would scanning it on
>> a CanoScan scanner – used by Kurzweil 1000 attached to a PC -
>> potentially do any damage to an iPhone screen? (Of course, would or
>> could one get any satisfactory results thereby?) My newspaper app
>> can’t be transferred between devices, and I can’t export stuff from
>> it to DropBox – there being no facility provided for it (and/or  I
>> can’t read it. The search boxes read fine, and do the page numbers.
>> If I type text into the search box, I’ll get results back, which are
>> read by VoiceOver. But that is of course a very tedious way to have
>> to get through an article or articles.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thoughts on this proposition?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>  
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Re: Seeing AI and scanning documents

[Shaf Patel]

Two words:

Justified Paranoia.


On 7/13/2017 11:00 AM, Shaf Patel wrote:
> Two words:
>
> Justified Paranoia.
>
>
> On 7/13/2017 10:21 AM, Dave wrote:
>> one word.
>>
>> Paranoia!
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Shaf Patel
>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI and scanning documents
>>
>> Microsoft is probably selling your data in exchange for providing a free
>> app. If you care about your privacy, just be aware of the information
>> you share with Seeing AI.
>>
>>
>> On 7/13/2017 9:37 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> I'm going to paste the results I got with the first page  of the
>>> document of VoiceOver gestures I put together.
>>> I did this free hand based on the feedback from the app.
>>> I am completely blown away by this.  This was on my work iPhone 6S.
>>> You will note that the heading level was kept, and the bullets, not
>>> to mention the accuracy.
>>> VoiceOver Gestures
>>> * Practice Mode: Four finger double tap, Puts
>>> VoiceOver in practice mode so you can practice gestures without
>>> opening or changing anything.
>>> * Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
>>>
>>> If you slide your one finger without lifting it, you can explore what
>>> is on the screen without changing or opening anything.
>>> * Select the next or previous item: Swipe right
>>> or left with one finger.
>>> * Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger
>>> swipe up.
>>> * Read all from the current position: Two-finger
>>> swipe down.
>>> * Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
>>> * To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous
>>> screen: Twofinger scrub: Move two fingers rapidly in a small circle
>>> or slide two fingers back and forth three times quickly (making a "z")
>>> * Speak Screen: Touch the status bar with one
>>> finger and swipe down with two fingers; only works if Speak Screen is
>>> turned on in settings, general, accessibility, speech. VoiceOver will
>>> continue reading even if the screen is locked.
>>> * Scroll one page up or down at a time:
>>> Three-finger swipe up or down.
>>>
>>> In Email, if you touch somewhere in the list of emails, then swipe
>>> down with three fingers, it will refresh the Email list and get any
>>> new messages.
>>> * Three-finger swipe right or left. For example):
>>> Go to the next or previous page (on the Home screen.
>>> * Open Notification Center: touch the status bar
>>> and swipe down with three fingers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, if they add the ability to save multi-page documents, for me,
>>> this will replace KNFB Reader hands down.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>

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Re: Seeing AI and scanning documents

[Shaf Patel]

Microsoft is probably selling your data in exchange for providing a free
app. If you care about your privacy, just be aware of the information
you share with Seeing AI.


On 7/13/2017 9:37 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> I'm going to paste the results I got with the first page  of the document of 
> VoiceOver gestures I put together.
> I did this free hand based on the feedback from the app.
> I am completely blown away by this.  This was on my work iPhone 6S.
> You will note that the heading level was kept, and the bullets, not to 
> mention the accuracy.
> VoiceOver Gestures
> * Practice Mode: Four finger double tap, Puts VoiceOver 
> in practice mode so you can practice gestures without opening or changing 
> anything.
> * Select and speak the item: Touch with one finger.
>
> If you slide your one finger without lifting it, you can explore what is on 
> the screen without changing or opening anything.
> * Select the next or previous item: Swipe right or left 
> with one finger.
> * Read all from the top of the screen: Two-finger swipe 
> up.
> * Read all from the current position: Two-finger swipe 
> down.
> * Stop or resume speaking: Two-finger touch.
> * To dismiss an alert or go back to the previous screen: 
> Twofinger scrub: Move two fingers rapidly in a small circle or slide two 
> fingers back and forth three times quickly (making a "z")
> * Speak Screen: Touch the status bar with one finger and 
> swipe down with two fingers; only works if Speak Screen is turned on in 
> settings, general, accessibility, speech. VoiceOver will continue reading 
> even if the screen is locked.
> * Scroll one page up or down at a time: Three-finger 
> swipe up or down.
>
> In Email, if you touch somewhere in the list of emails, then swipe down with 
> three fingers, it will refresh the Email list and get any new messages.
> * Three-finger swipe right or left. For example): Go to 
> the next or previous page (on the Home screen.
> * Open Notification Center: touch the status bar and 
> swipe down with three fingers.
>
>
> Now, if they add the ability to save multi-page documents, for me, this will 
> replace KNFB Reader hands down.
>
> Richard
>

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Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

[Shaf Patel]

If this was made accessible, just think of the possibilities!

No more begging sighted folks for help signing legal documents.


Also, iOS 11 will not support 32 bit apps. If this is something you care
about, don't upgrade until the developer updates the app.


On 7/11/2017 8:52 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
> True Richard,
> but think of this, we are not the only ones to find digitising text useful. 
> so, I suspect, even if it doesn't come out with this iOS, it may follow in 
> fairly rapid succession! also, and perhaps I am misunderstanding this, think 
> of the size of the screen of your phone: The image of, say, an A4 or foolscap 
> piece of paper, would be quite small. people would find it very difficult to 
> write a signature in the appropriate space on such a small image. 
> nevertheless, mention of the ability to add a signature is there. so, there 
> must be a way to transpose a signature from the screen which can be placed at 
> the right size and in the right place onto the image.
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I would not get too excited about this feature until we hear if this will be 
>> at all VoiceOver accessible.
>> There is no mention of OCR at this point, just capturing images.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that does sound pretty cool!
>>> Here's hopeing 11.0 will indeed do that!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>>>
>>> it's very loose thinking at this point, but let's say I have a document 
>>> that I need to sign: perhaps, it will be possible to write your signature 
>>> with your finger on your phone screen and have it placed in the document. 
>>> placed in the correct position, that is. then I could either print it out 
>>> and submit it or send it electronically. conversely, perhaps we will be 
>>> able to import into the Notes app from, say, an email attachment, and be 
>>> able to sign it just by writing on the screen.
>>>
>>> I have experienced being on my own and needing to get a document signed 
>>> quickly and have had, unfortunately, to search around my friends to find 
>>> someone who had time to come over and help me sign it. I am hoping that 
>>> this new functionality might help me out in this respect. Plus, I like my 
>>> privacy!
>>>
>>> just being hopeful, Sandy
>>>
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>
 On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:49, Mike Ulrich  wrote:

 I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
 Signature; as in using for what?
 Thanks and much appreciated!

 -Original Message-
 From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - 
 CNET

 it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it placed 
 on the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!
 Sandy

 sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
>
> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>
> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the 
> need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with 
> the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with 
> the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it 
> into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
> Scan a document
> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the 
> Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you 
> want).
> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and 
> looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device 
> directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed 
> its document scanner to work from various angles.
> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a 
> scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there 
> is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the 
> document.
> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left 
> corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning 
> 

Experiences with Aira?

[Shaf Patel]

Hi,
Anybody on this list own an Aira, and if so, what are your experiences
and reviews of it? Is it worth the $90 per month for 100 minutes of
support over the free iOS alternatives (BeMyEyes, Facetiming a friend) etc?

Thanks.

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Fwd: [recycle-it] For Sale: first gen Apple watch

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Fwd: [thebargainstore] FS: iPhone SE, 64GB, silver.

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Fwd: [recycle-it] fs: macbook air

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Hi all

Reposting this with proper specs, as it's better than originally thought.
macbook air 2015, perfect working condition, comes with case and charger.

specs:
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Re: wi-fi calling how to use it

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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t=j==s=web=2=rja=8=0ahUKEwjH1dHdg6fTAhULkywKHVMkDAoQFgg3MAE=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fen-gb%2FHT203032=AFQjCNGWpjn-xmszBP28I0qTeBK7SOkxOA=bv.152479541,d.bGg


Google works wonders.
On 4/15/2017 1:34 PM, Casey wrote:
> Hi I have wi-fi calling enabled on my phone.
>
> But if you would like to use it.
>
> How do you make sure when you make A cal you are using wi-fi instead
> of your cell data?
>
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Scanning Cards With Apple Pay

[Shaf Patel]

Hi,
Has anybody found a good solution for easily scanning a credit card with
Apple Pay and actually getting it to scan within a minute? What methods
do you use to get the card positioned exactly how the app wants it?

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Re: Question regarding Keychain, and the latest iPhone update

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No you won't be nagged. Go ahead and update.


On 4/9/2017 8:03 PM, Dave wrote:
>  
> HI.
>  
> I have a question about Keychain on the iPhone 6s.
>  
> I don’t use any apps like safari, that require me to put in passwords
> or credit card Details, and i don't plan to in the near future.
>  
> I am running version 9.3.5 and haven’t updated as yet, but i am
> thinking about taking the plunge, and updating to 10.3.1.
>  
> I am not currently using keychain and don’t want to.  My question is,
> if I update my phone, will I get nagged to turn on keychain?  If so,
> how do I stop the nag screen?
>  
> I’ve seen all the articles on how it works, and people telling me,
> that i should use it, but I have never had nag screens, in earlier
> updates.
>  
> I still don’t want to use it,  I just want to know if I will be nagged
> or not, and if possible, how to stop it.
>  
> many thanks,
>  
> Dave.
>  
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Re: Your recent purchase from AMZN Mobile LLC

[Shaf Patel]

This is clearly spam. Here's why:


The email starts with: Dear User

Any legitimate email from companies like Apple will have your full name
instead of the generic user.

It also ends with: Apple Account Support.

This is not how Apple signs their messages.


Finally, look at this URL:

http://secure2.iforgot.apple.com.recover-my-account-by-resetting-password-and-auth-token.main-fd8g6df.info


Notice how crafty this URL is?
It contains .apple.com, but .apple.com does not end with a /. However,
the site in question ends with a .info.
If you click the above link without the extra bullshit they sent you in
the email, it'll redirect to www.apple.com.

If you receive an email claiming to be from Apple and are not sure of
its authenticity, go to appleid.apple.com directly instead of clicking
any links in emails. Be careful, protect your data and do not be a
victim of fraud.

-Shaf
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> Hi,  I have a question for you.  Did you sign up an account from that
> company?  If it is not, then it is a spam.  Cheers,  Scott Dollar 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 8, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Michael Amaro <mikeam...@earthlink.net
> <mailto:mikeam...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>> Could this be spam?
>>
>> *From:* Store Apple <mailto:supp...@supporte-account.info>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 8, 2017 6:10 AM
>> *To:* mikeam...@earthlink.net <mailto:mikeam...@earthlink.net>
>> *Subject:* Your recent purchase from AMZN Mobile LLC
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear User,
>>
>> Your account ( mikeam...@earthlink.net
>> <mailto:mikeam...@earthlink.net> ) was just used to purchase AMZN
>> Mobile LLC from the computer or device that had not previously been
>> associated with your account.
>>
>> If you made this purchase, you can disregard this email.
>>
>> If you did not make this purchase, we recommend that you go to Reset
>> My Password
>> <http://iforgot.apple.com.being-redirect-toserverdua.redir-fd8g6df.info/>
>> to change your password.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Apple Account Support
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Re: Has anyone used the peer to peer cash transfer apps Square Cashh or Venmo?

[Shaf Patel]

Please send $3000 to shafpatel[@]gmail[dot]com. Thanks!


On 4/9/2017 1:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Do you not have Interac email money transfer in the States? Here in Canada 
> most of the financial institutions support this now, it does come with a $1 
> fee, but I can easily and securely send money (minimum of $10 and maximum of 
> $3,000) to anybody, all I need is their email address.
> I just login to my online banking, start an Interac email money transfer, 
> enter the person's name and email address (after the first time they are 
> available for me to pick in a combo drop-down0) and then I put in the amount 
> I want to send. I also have to specify a security question and the answer 
> (the recipiant of course needs to know the answer)and I can send along an 
> optional message.
> About half an hour later at most the person gets an email, they select their 
> financial institution from a list and if I have that bank's app on my iPhone 
> I can choose to either deposit via the app or to use Safari and the mobile 
> banking site of my bank. I use Scotia Bank and have it set up to use Touch Id 
> to log in, so I tap to use the app and continue, it prompts me to login using 
> Touch Id, then I simply specify which account I want the money to be 
> deposited to, type in the answer to the security question and confirm the 
> deposit.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has anyone used the peer to peer cash transfer apps Square Cashh 
> or Venmo?
>
> Hi sieghard.
> I use the cash app, and did that by mistake!  I meant to send my friend 20 
> dollars, and added an extra 0!  Yep, sent her 200.  I know that's not much... 
> well to some people it's not... but we found out we can refund money that 
> way!  LOL.
> Jen
>
> On 4/8/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Keith,
>>
>> Please let me know which one you want to try, I'll install it and we 
>> can see if it is free to send me $1,000 *smile*.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 11:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Has anyone used the peer to peer cash transfer apps Square 
>> Cashh or Venmo?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’m curious if any have used the peer to peer cash transfer apps 
>> Square Cash or Venmo?
>>
>> Curious about both accessibility and security. I understand they are 
>> free, unless one wants an immediate cash out through Square Cash, 
>> which is stated in the App Description as 1%. But otherwise, it sounds 
>> as if waiting overnight for both apps is without fee.
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: Does the iPad Mini Record in Stereo?

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Mono. You'll have to buy an external mic if you want to record in stereo.



On 4/7/2017 3:25 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
> Hi,
> I haven’t recorded anything with my iPad Mini 4 yet, but I’m just
> wondering, does the internal mike record in stereo or mono?
> It’s not a big deal, but if it records in stereo, I will probably be
> quicker to get a recording app to play around with if I can make
> stereo recordings without having to buy an external stereo mike.
> Thanks.
> Evan
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Re: iTunes 12.6.0.2 for Windows and Strange Behavior

[Shaf Patel]

They can also help you with iTunes. Good luck with resolving the problem.


On 4/7/2017 12:47 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> Shaf,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but Apple Care covers my iPhone 7 but not my 
> Windows 7 computer. If you have a good email address or phone number for 
> someone at Apple who will talk to me, I'll be more than happy to contact them.
>
> Alan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shaf Patel
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.6.0.2 for Windows and Strange Behavior
>
> Contact Apple Care.
>
>
> On 4/6/2017 2:41 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed instructions. I did reset my wi-fi router.
>>
>> I also went into iTunes and signed out of my Apple ID so I could sign back 
>> in again and hopefully jar things into working. Now, I get a message saying 
>> there was an error connecting to the Apple ID server. I get this when trying 
>> to sign into the iTunes Store or to authorize my computer. Is there some 
>> other step such as de-authorization that I must do first? I'm really getting 
>> frustrated and am running out of ideas.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 8:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.6.0.2 for Windows and Strange Behavior
>>
>> Thank you for the update, Alan.
>>
>> Did you reboot your Wifi router and modem?
>>
>> Okay, as for Help/Check for Updates, that is not how one initiates the app 
>> update process but merely checks with Apple to see if there is a later 
>> version of iTunes, only.  
>>
>> Do me a favor, reboot your computer and do not open iTunes and do not 
>> connect your phone to your PC.  Instead, from the start menu open the Apple 
>> Check for Updates app and see if it informs you that you have the latest 
>> versions of all your installed Apple software.
>>
>> Also, when you're in iTunes, without the phone being connected, can you 
>> connect to the App Store?  This is to say, can you search for various apps 
>> and have them be displayed on your screen?  Also, are you able to rate any 
>> apps from your computer?  
>>
>> Alan, it may be a good idea to make certain that you're signed into your 
>> Account on your computer and for good measure, select to authorize the 
>> computer.  Don't worry, if the computer is already authorized, no change 
>> will occur to your account.  
>>
>> Once you have done this, from the Account menu, in iTunes, select the Check 
>> for Available Downloads.  This should clear the cache of any download 
>> problems, if any exist.
>>
>> Finally, from the App Library of iTunes, can you see any of your apps being 
>> listed?  If so, place focus on them and see if any have an update option.  
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 6:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.6.0.2 for Windows and Strange Behavior
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Thanks for these recommendations. I did make sure that I'm not syncing my 
>> podcasts. I also did a Google search for troubleshooting problems with 
>> iTunes and uninstalled all the programs Apple Support said I should 
>> uninstall including iTunes, Apple Software Update, Apple Mobile Device 
>> Support, Bonjour, Apple Application Support (32-bit), and Apple Application 
>> Support (64-bit). I then downloaded iTunes for Windows 64-bit 12.6.1 and 
>> installed it fresh. Unfortunately, I'm still getting some strange results 
>> although I'm not getting quite as long of a delay before iTunes stops 
>> displaying the hourglass and when I connect my iPhone, it displays its icon 
>> pretty quickly. However, when I go to Help, Check for Updates from within 
>> iTunes, I get a dialog that says contacting Apple and it ran for more than 
>> 35 minutes with no result before I gave up and stopped it. And the recent 
>> app updates I downloaded to my iPhone 7 are not showing up as updates in 
>> iTunes.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:36 PM
>> To

Re: Easy to use recording app free today

[Shaf Patel]

Turns out you need to double tap and hold on the Settings button until
you hear the triple ascending tone, then while holding the button swipe
left, then let go. Both buttons will be undimmed after you do that.



On 4/6/2017 6:19 PM, Shaf Patel wrote:
> No idea, left a comment on the developer's blog letting him know of the
> issue.
>
>
> On 4/6/2017 6:17 PM, jeffrey Turner wrote:
>> How do you get the Settings and player buttons to undim?
>>
>> Jeffrey
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Sherrie Gosling <nanagoose4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This app is free today. I downloaded it and it is quite voice over friendly. 
>> You can even set it to start recording when you open it. Can also save 
>> recordings to iCloud.
>>
>> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>>
>>
>>> Mic'd -  Beautifully simple recording
>>> http://appadvice.com/shareapp/985079727
>>>
>>>

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Re: Easy to use recording app free today

[Shaf Patel]

No idea, left a comment on the developer's blog letting him know of the
issue.


On 4/6/2017 6:17 PM, jeffrey Turner wrote:
> How do you get the Settings and player buttons to undim?
>
> Jeffrey
>
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:
>
> This app is free today. I downloaded it and it is quite voice over friendly. 
> You can even set it to start recording when you open it. Can also save 
> recordings to iCloud.
>
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>
>
>> Mic'd -  Beautifully simple recording
>> http://appadvice.com/shareapp/985079727
>>
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Re: Updating To iOS 10.31

[Shaf Patel]

Back up your data, then go ahead and install.


On 4/6/2017 6:00 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>  
> Using an SE iPhone with iOS 9.33, & have never done an update.  I'm
> going to update to 10.31, & is there anything I should do before
> double tapping the install button?  Should I turn off Bluetooth, or
> anything like that, or just go ahead & install.  All apps are closed,
> & I have backed up the phone to both my computer & iTunes.  Thanks much.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
> Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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Re: Easy to use recording app free today

[Shaf Patel]

Fantastic, it supports the Watch! Thanks for this.


On 4/6/2017 5:52 PM, Sherrie Gosling wrote:
> This app is free today. I downloaded it and it is quite voice over friendly. 
> You can even set it to start recording when you open it. Can also save 
> recordings to iCloud.
>
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>
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>> Mic'd -  Beautifully simple recording
>> http://appadvice.com/shareapp/985079727
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Re: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

[Shaf Patel]

Digit Eyes has never worked for me. However, I've been told by other
successful users of the app that it works; I've just never been able to
get it to scan product bar codes.
On 4/6/2017 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>
> You probably could use the labels you already bought for Digit Eyes.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Ulrich
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:24 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility
>
>  
>
> Thanks Sieghard, I guess I just fell for typical BS on various blind
> Iphone list serves. Plus a good blind buddy that teaches blind tech
> stuff at the Collier County Lighthouse told me Eli rocks. But perhaps
> it’s his sighted gal pal helping him along?
>
>  
>
> Thanks for straightening me out!
>
> I’ll look into Digit Eyes.
>
>  
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:02 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility
>
>  
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>  
>
> Why didn’t you stick with Digit-Eyes, it’s not free, but it works and
> you can order labels or make/use your own, they even have waterproof
> ones which can go in the washing machine for labelling clothing.
>
> I had a look at the Invision ELI app on the app store, here is what
> the one review that was listed says:
>
>  
>
> *Poorly designed app barely usable 1 Star*
>
> * *by TallyChip
>
> Do you think the company selling products to the visually impaired
> could do better than this with their app design, which offers no
> feedback at all via voice over as to how to use it or control it.
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>  
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Ulrich
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:19 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility
>
>  
>
> So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?
>
>  
>
> I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli
> app was indeed accessible and worked very well.
>
> So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once
> the labels finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally
> not accessible in voice over.
>
>  
>
> Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?
>
> I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if
> they can operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If
> that’s the case, I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get
> their Sh*t straight!
>
>  
>
> Michael D. Ulrich
>
> Just an ordinary average blind guy
>
> Florida Council of the Blind
>
> Fundraising Committee Member
>
>  
>
> Home: 239-540-7431
>
> Cell: 239-565-5845
>
> Email: mulr...@centurylink.net 
>
>  
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Re: iTunes 12.6.0.2 for Windows and Strange Behavior

[Shaf Patel]

Contact Apple Care.


On 4/6/2017 2:41 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for the detailed instructions. I did reset my wi-fi router.
>
> I also went into iTunes and signed out of my Apple ID so I could sign back in 
> again and hopefully jar things into working. Now, I get a message saying 
> there was an error connecting to the Apple ID server. I get this when trying 
> to sign into the iTunes Store or to authorize my computer. Is there some 
> other step such as de-authorization that I must do first? I'm really getting 
> frustrated and am running out of ideas.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 8:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.6.0.2 for Windows and Strange Behavior
>
> Thank you for the update, Alan.
>
> Did you reboot your Wifi router and modem?
>
> Okay, as for Help/Check for Updates, that is not how one initiates the app 
> update process but merely checks with Apple to see if there is a later 
> version of iTunes, only.  
>
> Do me a favor, reboot your computer and do not open iTunes and do not connect 
> your phone to your PC.  Instead, from the start menu open the Apple Check for 
> Updates app and see if it informs you that you have the latest versions of 
> all your installed Apple software.
>
> Also, when you're in iTunes, without the phone being connected, can you 
> connect to the App Store?  This is to say, can you search for various apps 
> and have them be displayed on your screen?  Also, are you able to rate any 
> apps from your computer?  
>
> Alan, it may be a good idea to make certain that you're signed into your 
> Account on your computer and for good measure, select to authorize the 
> computer.  Don't worry, if the computer is already authorized, no change will 
> occur to your account.  
>
> Once you have done this, from the Account menu, in iTunes, select the Check 
> for Available Downloads.  This should clear the cache of any download 
> problems, if any exist.
>
> Finally, from the App Library of iTunes, can you see any of your apps being 
> listed?  If so, place focus on them and see if any have an update option.  
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 6:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.6.0.2 for Windows and Strange Behavior
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for these recommendations. I did make sure that I'm not syncing my 
> podcasts. I also did a Google search for troubleshooting problems with iTunes 
> and uninstalled all the programs Apple Support said I should uninstall 
> including iTunes, Apple Software Update, Apple Mobile Device Support, 
> Bonjour, Apple Application Support (32-bit), and Apple Application Support 
> (64-bit). I then downloaded iTunes for Windows 64-bit 12.6.1 and installed it 
> fresh. Unfortunately, I'm still getting some strange results although I'm not 
> getting quite as long of a delay before iTunes stops displaying the hourglass 
> and when I connect my iPhone, it displays its icon pretty quickly. However, 
> when I go to Help, Check for Updates from within iTunes, I get a dialog that 
> says contacting Apple and it ran for more than 35 minutes with no result 
> before I gave up and stopped it. And the recent app updates I downloaded to 
> my iPhone 7 are not showing up as updates in iTunes.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.6.0.2 for Windows and Strange Behavior
>
> Hello Alan,
>
> I am running the latest version of iTunes on two Windows 7 computers, one 
> 32-bit version and 1 64-bit version.  I have experienced none of your issues.
>
> I suggest that you:
>
> 1.
> Reboot your WiFi router/modem and confirm that it is connecting to the 
> internet at acceptable/expected data speeds.
>
> 2.
> Swap out the lightning cable to insure that you have a solid good connection.
>
> 3.
> If you are using iTunes on your PC to download podcast, turn this feature off 
> as it can greatly, and I do mean greatly slow down application startup and 
> device connectivity.  Years ago, before I discovered this fact, I would 
> sometimes wait up to 45 minutes in order for iTunes to complete its launch.  
> It was a nightmare.
>
> 4.
> Rather than re-installing  iTunes, on top of itself, first, completely 
> remove/uninstall iTunes from your Windows 7 PC. 
> Doing this will not delete any of your data; however, I always recommend 
> making a backup of your iTunes Library before proceeding with such a step. 
> Next, reboot the computer. Finally, install a fresh copy of iTunes on your 
> PC.  To be sure, re-installing iTunes on top of itself is not 

Re: Alternative to my banking app

[Shaf Patel]

Would you REALLY trust a third-party app with your sensitive banking
information?

I think not. It's best to use their website if they don't want to make
their iOS app accessible.



On 4/5/2017 4:49 PM, Traci Duncan wrote:
> So, my local credit union iOS app has been inaccessible for a couple years 
> now.  It does not look like they are going to improve it.
>
> Are there third party apps for banking and paying bills?  Of course ones that 
> are safe with my information.
>
> It’s annoying that my local bank isn’t accessible anymore, but I really don’t 
> want to switch institutions.
>
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard repeating letters

[Shaf Patel]

I can confirm the bug. Turning off/on VoiceOver helps.


On 4/5/2017 7:08 AM, terrie arnold wrote:
> I wish Apple would fix this this is been going on since 07 and Collin
> says speak about it that they have not fixed it and apparently in the
> last iOS update, it hasn't been's fixed either so I'm not always
> turning off voiceover and, turning it back on solves the problem
>
> My thoughts for today
>
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 4:38 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> > wrote:
>
>> I have always found that turning off VoiceOver (with the 3 click
>> setting) and then turning on again does solve them. 
>>
>>
>>
>> Carol P - Sent from my iPhone :)
>>
>>
>> On 4 Apr 2017, at 5:08 pm, pegkan...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Unfortunately the suggestion that you have made about turning off the
>> repeat repeat keys does not correct this problem.
>> I have contacted Apple several times, and they have not changed this
>> situation or been able to fix it rather
>> The only thing that seems to work, is to turn off the phone and then
>> turn it back on when trying to use a keyboard. And sometimes this
>> does not work either.
>> Fondly,
>> Peggy
>>
>> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Louise Johnson >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi thanks for the steps I had it on also and didn't know that . I
>>> will have to type later today on the keyboard as I am using my
>>> computer now.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MamaPeach
>>> Sent: April 4, 2017 4:21 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard repeating letters
>>>
>>> Try going to Settings, then to General, then to accessibility, then
>>> to Keyboard. If you look under the header HARDWARE KEYBOARDS, there
>>> is something that says Key Repeat. Make sure this is set to off and
>>> see if that helps.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Terri Stimmel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 1:27 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard repeating letters
>>>
>>> Hello once more,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have talked about this issue before. But I wanted to find out if
>>> the problem still existed for anyone, or if it is just happening to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am using a 5S. I have a Boxwave Buddy keyboard. When I mention the
>>> problem I am having, I am not talking about the known bug that can
>>> happen, that can be fixed by turning off voiceover, then turning it
>>> back on again.
>>>
>>> Although, it would be great if that bug was fixed! I haven't updated
>>> to the latest update yet. So maybe that has finally been fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, whenever I am typing on my keyboard, sometimes it will add a
>>> letter to a word, 2 or 3 more times than I need it too. This is
>>> highly anoying, as you can probably imagine. I have to listen for
>>> the errors, or realize the phone is letting me know that a word has
>>> been mis-spelled.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, while writing a text, or posting on Facebook, it may only
>>> happen once. Other times when writing out something, it happens way
>>> too much!
>>>
>>>
>>> The keyboard is used.
>>>
>>> However, it was given to me by a friend who takes great care of her
>>> stuff. The keys don't seem too sensative. Actually, at first it was
>>> difficult to press the numbers. But this has improved.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone else deal with this?
>>>
>>> If so, do you have any reccomendations as to how to deal with the issue?
>>>
>>>
>>> Any thoughts, or suggestions, would be grately appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>> Terri
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Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

For somebody who spams the list with a reply to every single message in
a thread instead of reading everything and then responding to the last
message, it's strange to see why your comment on sending multiple
messages should even be taken seriously.



On 4/4/2017 8:36 PM, James Homuth wrote:
> If you send more than one message, I'm not surprised you're bumped down to
> the bottom of the queue. I'd take my time answering you if you pinged me
> every couple hours about the same thing either. Seriously, I've never
> required more than one message to actually get something resolved, unless it
> was to clarify which trip I was on that needed resolving.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Shaf Patel
> Sent: April-04-17 8:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>
> Sometimes. It really depends on how much you fight for progress on the
> issue. But if you send 2 or three messages, they won't take it seriously
> unless the ticket get routed to somebody who understands what actually
> happened.
>
> So the answer is yes, but only if you fight for progress.
>
>
> On 4/4/2017 7:56 PM, Donna Neff wrote:
>> Drivers have assured me that they can, and will, be suspended for refusing
> to take someone with a dog guide. Can anyone verify this?
>> On a few occasions, here in Los Angeles, I've have had to report A driver
> refusing to take me with my dog. Fortunately, I tend to get many more
> accommodating drivers than those who aren't. Of course, not allowing a
> person with a dog guide in and Uber vehicle is totally unacceptable!
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> I must say that Shaf is correct in that having to report an issue with a
> guide dog and then getting a call in a day or two and a refund is not a fix
> to the problem. They can be the most polite agent in the world, but that
> doesn't solve the actual issue and I for one would want a lot more if I, for
> example, stood somewhere in the middle of the winter at minus 30 and then a
> driver showed up and refused to take me.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:29 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I have always contacted uber support directly through the app.
>>> I have always been contacted with 24-48 hours with the issues of me
> reporting service animal issues.
>>> Service animal issues I mean leader dogs, seeing eye dog issues, guide
> issues, what ever school you come from.
>>> Personally, they are all the same with different titles lol stating I was
> denied a ride.
>>> Always, always always always have I been contacted by an american person
> from CA.
>>> They have always been super polite, and have refunded my account with any
> charges that have been applied.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 1:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>>>
>>> I could not find out anything as to where Uber customer service centres
> or call centres might be located by doing a Google search. Shaf, maybe you
> should for once provide actual information in the form of links instead of
> just hinting that something is not factual and saying otherwise.
>>> I would, however, be curious as to what number people called if people
> have called. I did find an article which outlined various ways to contact
> Uber and that article stated clearly that there is no such thing as an
> actual customer service number which let's you speak with a live customer
> service agent. They mentioned a hot line for critical incidents and
> emergencies, but all other help apparently needs to be requested via the
> website or the app.
>>> Apparently at one point Uber had the email supp...@uber.com where one
> could send an email with a question or concern, but it says in the article
> that as of December 2016 (a few months ago) this email is no longer valid
> and generates an auto response saying so. The article also said that there
> at one point was a live chat feature which is also no longer available. For
> those interested, here is a link to that article:
>>&g

Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

Sometimes. It really depends on how much you fight for progress on the
issue. But if you send 2 or three messages, they won't take it seriously
unless the ticket get routed to somebody who understands what actually
happened.

So the answer is yes, but only if you fight for progress.


On 4/4/2017 7:56 PM, Donna Neff wrote:
> Drivers have assured me that they can, and will, be suspended for refusing to 
> take someone with a dog guide. Can anyone verify this?
>
> On a few occasions, here in Los Angeles, I've have had to report A driver 
> refusing to take me with my dog. Fortunately, I tend to get many more 
> accommodating drivers than those who aren't. Of course, not allowing a person 
> with a dog guide in and Uber vehicle is totally unacceptable!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I must say that Shaf is correct in that having to report an issue with a 
>> guide dog and then getting a call in a day or two and a refund is not a fix 
>> to the problem. They can be the most polite agent in the world, but that 
>> doesn't solve the actual issue and I for one would want a lot more if I, for 
>> example, stood somewhere in the middle of the winter at minus 30 and then a 
>> driver showed up and refused to take me.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jeremy Gilley
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>>
>> Hello,
>> I have always contacted uber support directly through the app.
>> I have always been contacted with 24-48 hours with the issues of me 
>> reporting service animal issues.
>> Service animal issues I mean leader dogs, seeing eye dog issues, guide 
>> issues, what ever school you come from.
>> Personally, they are all the same with different titles lol stating I was 
>> denied a ride.
>> Always, always always always have I been contacted by an american person 
>> from CA.
>> They have always been super polite, and have refunded my account with any 
>> charges that have been applied.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 1:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>>
>> I could not find out anything as to where Uber customer service centres or 
>> call centres might be located by doing a Google search. Shaf, maybe you 
>> should for once provide actual information in the form of links instead of 
>> just hinting that something is not factual and saying otherwise.
>>
>> I would, however, be curious as to what number people called if people have 
>> called. I did find an article which outlined various ways to contact Uber 
>> and that article stated clearly that there is no such thing as an actual 
>> customer service number which let's you speak with a live customer service 
>> agent. They mentioned a hot line for critical incidents and emergencies, but 
>> all other help apparently needs to be requested via the website or the app.
>> Apparently at one point Uber had the email supp...@uber.com where one could 
>> send an email with a question or concern, but it says in the article that as 
>> of December 2016 (a few months ago) this email is no longer valid and 
>> generates an auto response saying so. The article also said that there at 
>> one point was a live chat feature which is also no longer available. For 
>> those interested, here is a link to that article:
>>
>> http://www.idrivewithuber.com/help/contact-uber-support/
>>
>> I did just for the fun of it send an email to supp...@uber.com, just put 
>> subject "Guide Dogs" and asked if Uber had a policy which would make sure a 
>> driver can't refuse me because I have a guide dog. Here is what came back, 
>> exactly what the article said would happen:
>>
>> From: Uber Support [mailto:supp...@uber.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:23 AM
>> To: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
>> Subject: Request not received: Guide dogs
>>
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> We're sorry. You've contacted an address that does not accept incoming 
>> email. We're not monitoring questions through this email address and this 
>> request has not been received by our support team.
>> We'd love to help out if you have an issue. Please sub

Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

Look, I really do understand where you're coming from. But when you have
an issue where a driver refuses to take somebody who has a service
animal, you really don't want your issue met with a canned copy/paste
response and a refund of the cancellation fee from somebody in a
completely different country. That complaint needs to be dealt in the
same country where the customer is located, and not with a "sorry for
the trouble, here's a refund" message. What I'm getting at is that you
have to go back and forth with a customer service rep from some other
country before actually having your issue heard.

I've heard from so many people where both Uber and Lyft refuse to take
action against drivers who refuse to drive passengers with service
animals. It's lack of communication and an unwillingness of actually
understanding the issue.

For generic customer service, having anybody respond to your support
request is fine. But not when it becomes a discrimination problem.

Cheers.
F
On 4/4/2017 3:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> OK, fair enough, but while I am not necessarily a big fan of Uber, I also am 
> not necessarily for or against international call centres. After all, just 
> about all large companies nowadays do this and I have had aweful experiences 
> and fantastic experiences just as I have had aweful or fantastic experiences 
> with customer support personal that is or was based in North 
> America. I think how good or not good the end result is depends on the type 
> of personell they hire in these countries, how well they get trained and 
> supervised. Just because a call centre is in the US doesn't mean 90% of the 
> staff may not be immigrants whose english may or may not be the same as that 
> of the staff in the Philippines or wherever. Also, the one link you provided 
> mentions this:
>
> Uber is in the middle of building out a global customer service center in 
> Manila, BuzzFeed News has confirmed. This new office — which the company calls
> a “Center of Excellence” — will house “a team of customer support 
> representatives and several people managers,” who will service several 
> different markets
> globally, according to job listings the company has posted.
> The Manila office is one of eight new or newly announced centers around the 
> world. The others are in Phoenix, Arizona; Chicago, Illinois; Hyderabad, 
> India;
> Krakow, Poland; Wuhan, China; Limerick, Ireland; and San Jose, Costa Rica.
>
> As you can see two of the 8 new centres mentioned are in the US and one is in 
> Ireland, of course it would make sense that the centre in India and China may 
> mostly be used to service the market there.
>
> It again all goes back to making these generalized statements. I am in the 
> retail business and sell top brand name outdoor gear from companies like 
> North Face, Icebreaker, Mountain Hardwear, backpacks from Deuter, a german 
> company which has been making backpacks since the 1890's, binocular and rifle 
> scopes from Vortex and Leupold etc. A lot of the products are manufactured in 
> China, Vietnam, the Philippines or eastern European countries and as long as 
> the factories used have top quality equipment and the staff is trained and 
> the quality control is there it is no problem at all and these products are 
> just as good as they would be were they made in the US or Canada. I always 
> think of one story of a small canadian company who at the time prided 
> themselves for manufacturing all their backpacks and clothing in Vancouver. 
> Of course the fabrics they used were from the big fabric mills wherever and 
> when I did a tour of their facility in Vancouver one of my employees who was 
> there as well told me afterwards that out of the 60 or 80 people that worked 
> their sewing, glueing and doing whatever almost all were women and maybe 3 or 
> 4 were caucasians, the rest were all chinese immigrants. 
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shaf Patel
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>
> Sure.
>
>
> https://qz.com/465613/uber-customer-complaints-from-the-us-are-increasingly-handled-in-the-philippines/
>
> http://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/uber-is-building-out-a-customer-support-center-in-manila-phi
>
> On 4/4/2017 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I could not find out anything as to where Uber customer service centres or 
>> call centres might be located by doing a Google search. Shaf, maybe you 
>> should for once provide actual information in the form of links instead of 
>> just hinting that something is not factual and saying otherwise.
>>
>>

Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

Sure.


https://qz.com/465613/uber-customer-complaints-from-the-us-are-increasingly-handled-in-the-philippines/

http://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/uber-is-building-out-a-customer-support-center-in-manila-phi

On 4/4/2017 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> I could not find out anything as to where Uber customer service centres or 
> call centres might be located by doing a Google search. Shaf, maybe you 
> should for once provide actual information in the form of links instead of 
> just hinting that something is not factual and saying otherwise.
>
> I would, however, be curious as to what number people called if people have 
> called. I did find an article which outlined various ways to contact Uber and 
> that article stated clearly that there is no such thing as an actual customer 
> service number which let's you speak with a live customer service agent. They 
> mentioned a hot line for critical incidents and emergencies, but all other 
> help apparently needs to be requested via the website or the app. Apparently 
> at one point Uber had the email supp...@uber.com where one could send an 
> email with a question or concern, but it says in the article that as of 
> December 2016 (a few months ago) this email is no longer valid and generates 
> an auto response saying so. The article also said that there at one point was 
> a live chat feature which is also no longer available. For those interested, 
> here is a link to that article:
>
> http://www.idrivewithuber.com/help/contact-uber-support/
>
> I did just for the fun of it send an email to supp...@uber.com, just put 
> subject "Guide Dogs" and asked if Uber had a policy which would make sure a 
> driver can't refuse me because I have a guide dog. Here is what came back, 
> exactly what the article said would happen:
>
> From: Uber Support [mailto:supp...@uber.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:23 AM
> To: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
> Subject: Request not received: Guide dogs
>
> 
> Hi there,
> We're sorry. You’ve contacted an address that does not accept incoming email. 
> We’re not monitoring questions through this email address and this request 
> has not been received by our support team.
> We'd love to help out if you have an issue. Please submit your request by 
> tapping “Help” in the Uber app or by visiting help.uber.com from a web 
> browser. There you’ll find answers to frequently asked questions and have the 
> option to submit a support request.
> We look forward to chatting with you soon!
> - Team Uber
> ---
> Need help accessing your account? Visit t.uber.com/contact-form
> This email is a service from Uber.
> [N4GQ9M-EKG3]
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shaf Patel
> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>
> LOL OK.
>
> Ask your friend Google where their customer services are located.
>
> I'm waiting.
>
>
> On 4/4/2017 5:39 AM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
>> I think you need to look at their company info my friend.
>> they are not from third world countries.
>> and before I really say something here, I think I better just not 
>> reply to anymore of your emails because its quite apparent you have no 
>> clue about UBER and the company itself.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Shaf Patel
>> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 9:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>>
>> Uber drivers also deny guide dogs. Do your research.
>>
>> Lyft also have a phone number on their website where you can report 
>> these kinds of issues, htlp.uber.com is where you need to go.
>>
>>
>> The people who work at Uber customer support responding to your 
>> messages are mostly from third world countries, not America.
>>
>> Not sure how you managed to get 3 managers to call you, you must have 
>> been lucky. But the majority of people who are denied rides due to 
>> having service animals do you get anything besides a generic response 
>> with Uber, and also Lyft.
>>
>> "Now, all 3 managers also confirmed that when they credit your account 
>> with the credit, they also will notify you of the drivers outcome."
>>
>> This goes against their privacy policy, according to an agent. So no, 
>> that is not factual.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2017 6:48 PM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
>>&g

Re: Please Join Me in Requesting That The New 140-Character Reply Feature, introduced in the Latest Version of the iOS Twitter App, Be Made VoiceOver Accessible

[Shaf Patel]

Where is this feature?
When replying to a conversation, I still see the @usernames being filled
in the edit field.
Struggling to see how this is a VO issue and not a Twitter issue.


On 4/4/2017 1:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
> list.
>
> The following is the new feature, introduced in the latest version of
> Twitter for iOS:
>
> [BEGIN DESCRIPTION]:
> 6.75.2:
>
> 1.
> A few minor updates to make Twitter an even better place.
>
> 2.
> You can now watch Periscope videos directly from a Moment. 
>
> 3.
> We're changing replies so that you have all 140 characters to express
> yourself. When you reply to a Tweet, @usernames will not automatically be
> added to the beginning of the reply, giving you all 140 characters to use in
> your response. You can see the full list of participant usernames in the
> conversation by clicking or tapping the prompt above the Tweet.
> [END DESCRIPTION]
>
> In short, the new 140-character Reply feature is not available when
> VoiceOver is enabled.
>
> Please join me in requesting that the new 140-character Reply feature be
> made VoiceOver accessible.  
>
> The following is a short request that you are free to use in your feedback
> to Twitter:
>
> [BEGIN REQUEST]
> Subject:
> Request to Make the Latest 140-Character Reply Feature Available to
> VoiceOver Users
>
> Hello,  
>
> Please make the new 140-character reply feature, introduced in version
> 6.75.2, available to blind and low vision users, via VoiceOver.
>
> Thank you,
> [END REQUEST]
>
> The following is my Tweet on this matter:
> [BEGIN TWEET]:
> Please make the new #iOS @Twitter 140-character Reply feature available to
> #VoiceOver users. Thank you. @Support
> [END TWEET]
>
> Post your request in the App Store, as a review, send a tweet to both
> @support and @Twitter, and 
> Submit a formal request to Twitter via the feedback form located at:
> https://support.twitter.com/forms/feature_report?feature=tweets.
>
> As always, thank you for your support and I'll see you on Twitter at:
> @MarkMarcus.
>
> Mark
>

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Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

LOL OK.

Ask your friend Google where their customer services are located.

I'm waiting.


On 4/4/2017 5:39 AM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
> I think you need to look at their company info my friend.
> they are not from third world countries.
> and before I really say something here, I think I better just not reply to
> anymore of your emails because its quite apparent you have no clue about
> UBER and the company itself.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Shaf Patel
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 9:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>
> Uber drivers also deny guide dogs. Do your research.
>
> Lyft also have a phone number on their website where you can report
> these kinds of issues, htlp.uber.com is where you need to go.
>
>
> The people who work at Uber customer support responding to your messages
> are mostly from third world countries, not America.
>
> Not sure how you managed to get 3 managers to call you, you must have
> been lucky. But the majority of people who are denied rides due to
> having service animals do you get anything besides a generic response
> with Uber, and also Lyft.
>
> "Now, all 3 managers also confirmed that when they credit your account with
> the credit, they also will notify you of the drivers outcome."
>
> This goes against their privacy policy, according to an agent. So no,
> that is not factual.
>
>
>
> On 4/3/2017 6:48 PM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
>> This is total nonsense.
>> Please don't tell the list this information.
>> over the past 5 months I have been denied from riders to my seeing eye
> dog.
>> Every single time, and I mean every single time when I reported the issue,
> I
>> have been contacted by uber support with in 24-48 hours.
>> None of them had an accent of any kind and have all called me from Cal.
>> This last time, When I requested to talk directly to a manager, I had not
> 1,
>> not 2, but 3 different managers 3 days in a row calling me telling me how
>> they are implementing a new system.
>> Now, I don't know about other countries, but I do know that now when a
>> driver accesses the app, they have to tap ok that they will accept dogs.
> If
>> they don't, they don't drive.
>> IF they tap ok, and they deny you, and you take the time to report it
>> through the app, and by the way, I used uber tonight and it still is
> working
>> great for me.
>> Anyways, if they see that indeed the driver did accept to take service
>> animals, the driver is instantly let go, and the rider is given a $25
>> credit.
>> I have been complaining so much that I wasn't getting the feed back about
>> the drivers and what takes place after I reported them.
>> Now, all 3 managers also confirmed that when they credit your account with
>> the credit, they also will notify you of the drivers outcome.
>> So, please don't tell someone to not report something because you believe
> it
>> will go to a different country.
>> They are based here in the states, and that is indeed who I talked too.
>> Thanks for reading my book, but had to tell my story.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Shaf Patel
>> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 1:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>>
>> Don't even bother leaving them feedback. Your feedback will be sent to
>> somebody in India who will give you a canned response and trash the
> feedback
>> But yes, the app is absolutely sluggish on iOS. There's not even a way
>> to rate a driver after a trip accessibly unless you're actually on
>> another trip, then you'll get the popup.
>>
>> I know there are people in their "accessibility" team who are working on
>> the app, but they are doing an absolutely terrible job with it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2017 1:31 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
>>> Is this happening to anyone else? Today I was getting a blipping sound
> and
>> the menu items were shifting. I couldn't find the contact driver button
> for
>> the longest time. Are used to be able to change my destination for doing a
>> second stop, but now I can't. This is really disappointing when before the
>> app had been stable and easy to use. I went to their website, found where
> it
>> says accessibility under the help menu, and left them feedback, would you
>> can do after double tapping more in that menu. I suggest others do the
> same.
>

Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

How did you contact Uber Corporate?


On 4/3/2017 7:33 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
> Letting you all know, I wrote to Uber corporate. Also, it seems that when you 
> turn off location services, that you don't hear the blipping sound and the 
> menu doesn't refresh. I will have to see what happens when I do my next trip..
>
>> On Apr 3, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
>>
>> UBER does all this as well.
>> I have not experienced any of the issues that others have complained about.
>> I have a Iphone 6+, and depend on VO 100% of the time.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 5:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>>
>> I much prefer Lyft. The app is accessible, and very easy to use. It now 
>> gives you a countdown timer when your car arrives, and a countdown estimate 
>> of when you will arrive at your destination. If you have some vision, or 
>> have a sighted person waiting with you, it tells you the make and color of 
>> the car, as well as the driver's name. It has been a long time since i have 
>> used Uber because I find the experience with lyft so satisfactory.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Kathy Brandt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:31 AM
>> Subject: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>>
>>
>> Is this happening to anyone else? Today I was getting a blipping sound and 
>> the menu items were shifting. I couldn't find the contact driver button for 
>> the longest time. Are used to be able to change my destination for doing a 
>> second stop, but now I can't. This is really disappointing when before the 
>> app had been stable and easy to use. I went to their website, found where it
>>
>> says accessibility under the help menu, and left them feedback, would you 
>> can do after double tapping more in that menu. I suggest others do the same.
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Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

Uber drivers also deny guide dogs. Do your research.

Lyft also have a phone number on their website where you can report
these kinds of issues, htlp.uber.com is where you need to go.


The people who work at Uber customer support responding to your messages
are mostly from third world countries, not America.

Not sure how you managed to get 3 managers to call you, you must have
been lucky. But the majority of people who are denied rides due to
having service animals do you get anything besides a generic response
with Uber, and also Lyft.

"Now, all 3 managers also confirmed that when they credit your account with
the credit, they also will notify you of the drivers outcome."

This goes against their privacy policy, according to an agent. So no,
that is not factual.



On 4/3/2017 6:48 PM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
> This is total nonsense.
> Please don't tell the list this information.
> over the past 5 months I have been denied from riders to my seeing eye dog.
> Every single time, and I mean every single time when I reported the issue, I
> have been contacted by uber support with in 24-48 hours.
> None of them had an accent of any kind and have all called me from Cal.
> This last time, When I requested to talk directly to a manager, I had not 1,
> not 2, but 3 different managers 3 days in a row calling me telling me how
> they are implementing a new system.
> Now, I don't know about other countries, but I do know that now when a
> driver accesses the app, they have to tap ok that they will accept dogs. If
> they don't, they don't drive.
> IF they tap ok, and they deny you, and you take the time to report it
> through the app, and by the way, I used uber tonight and it still is working
> great for me.
> Anyways, if they see that indeed the driver did accept to take service
> animals, the driver is instantly let go, and the rider is given a $25
> credit.
> I have been complaining so much that I wasn't getting the feed back about
> the drivers and what takes place after I reported them.
> Now, all 3 managers also confirmed that when they credit your account with
> the credit, they also will notify you of the drivers outcome.
> So, please don't tell someone to not report something because you believe it
> will go to a different country.
> They are based here in the states, and that is indeed who I talked too.
> Thanks for reading my book, but had to tell my story.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Shaf Patel
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>
> Don't even bother leaving them feedback. Your feedback will be sent to
> somebody in India who will give you a canned response and trash the feedback
>
> But yes, the app is absolutely sluggish on iOS. There's not even a way
> to rate a driver after a trip accessibly unless you're actually on
> another trip, then you'll get the popup.
>
> I know there are people in their "accessibility" team who are working on
> the app, but they are doing an absolutely terrible job with it.
>
>
> On 4/3/2017 1:31 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
>> Is this happening to anyone else? Today I was getting a blipping sound and
> the menu items were shifting. I couldn't find the contact driver button for
> the longest time. Are used to be able to change my destination for doing a
> second stop, but now I can't. This is really disappointing when before the
> app had been stable and easy to use. I went to their website, found where it
> says accessibility under the help menu, and left them feedback, would you
> can do after double tapping more in that menu. I suggest others do the same.

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Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

Yes, if you have a choice, definitely use Lyft over Uber. Better
customer service, more professional drivers and overall a better experience.


On 4/3/2017 4:59 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
> I much prefer Lyft. The app is accessible, and very easy to use. It
> now gives you a countdown timer when your car arrives, and a countdown
> estimate of when you will arrive at your destination. If you have some
> vision, or have a sighted person waiting with you, it tells you the
> make and color of the car, as well as the driver's name. It has been a
> long time since i have used Uber because I find the experience with
> lyft so satisfactory.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kathy Brandt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 10:31 AM
> Subject: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad
>
>
> Is this happening to anyone else? Today I was getting a blipping sound
> and the menu items were shifting. I couldn't find the contact driver
> button for the longest time. Are used to be able to change my
> destination for doing a second stop, but now I can't. This is really
> disappointing when before the app had been stable and easy to use. I
> went to their website, found where it says accessibility under the
> help menu, and left them feedback, would you can do after double
> tapping more in that menu. I suggest others do the same.
>

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Re: Uber app experience getting increasingly bad

[Shaf Patel]

Don't even bother leaving them feedback. Your feedback will be sent to
somebody in India who will give you a canned response and trash the feedback

But yes, the app is absolutely sluggish on iOS. There's not even a way
to rate a driver after a trip accessibly unless you're actually on
another trip, then you'll get the popup.

I know there are people in their "accessibility" team who are working on
the app, but they are doing an absolutely terrible job with it.


On 4/3/2017 1:31 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
> Is this happening to anyone else? Today I was getting a blipping sound and 
> the menu items were shifting. I couldn't find the contact driver button for 
> the longest time. Are used to be able to change my destination for doing a 
> second stop, but now I can't. This is really disappointing when before the 
> app had been stable and easy to use. I went to their website, found where it 
> says accessibility under the help menu, and left them feedback, would you can 
> do after double tapping more in that menu. I suggest others do the same.
>

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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

Great. April Fools is over, which means we should stop spamming the list
with this thread now.
On 4/2/2017 12:03 PM, Wayne Scott wrote:
> My little Focus 14 braille display cost me $1200.  I need to get it
> fixed which Freedom Scientific is giving me a flat rate estimate of
> $250.  That is ten times cheaper than Humanware wanted to charge me to
> fix my old braillenote.  I ended up getting a new braillenote.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Evan Reese" <ment...@dslextreme.com
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 21:59:25 -0400
> Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
> Thanks Lelia,
> I'd heard about research into cheaper braille displays, and there are
> other devices, Android ones, with braille built in, (admittedly quite
> a bit more expensive), and given Apple's proven commitment to greater
> accessibility than, say, Microsoft, well, putting it all together, I
> was prepared to believe it.
> It was very well done.
> Evan
>
> From: Lelia Struve
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
> Actually Evan, glad to know I'm not the only one who was taken in and
> is feeling sad.  At least you know you're not alone LOL.
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Mike B.  <mb69ma...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>  I think you added an extra 0!  I believe it's supposed to be $1,000.00.
>  Take care.
>  Mike
>  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>  Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Shaf Patel
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:20 PM
>  Subject: Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>  $10,000 + tax.
>
>
>  On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone.  How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device.  It's definitely worth
> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>
>
> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> It was almost believable, other than the price.
> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>
> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
> only hope, grin.
> Richard
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>
> Well, I admit it, I was taken in.  I guess my judgment was clouded by
> wishful thinking.  It would sure be cool to have such a device.
> Feeling a bit sad,
> Evan
>
> *From:* Merv Keck <mailto:blind5spar...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>
> Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
> each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
> the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
> amusing stories.  If someone posted a fake story about a blind
> friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
> fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said.  Hey only
> kidding.  Everyone would be angry.  Not the least bit amused.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>
>
> April fools!
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:*Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca
>
> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
>
> *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned 

Re: Application to access radio channels

[Shaf Patel]

TuneIn radio.


On 4/1/2017 9:59 PM, turab chimthanawala wrote:
> Hi all
> Would like to know of any IOS applications to access radio channels
> worldwide with specific coverage of Indian radio channels.
> Thanks in anticipation
> Best
> Turab
>

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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

$10,000 + tax.


On 4/1/2017 8:56 PM, Dani Pagador wrote:
> I missed the price on that special iPhone. How many pretty pennies
> that I don't have would it cost me???
>
> On 4/1/17, Shaf Patel <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
>> getting if you can get the funding for it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> It was almost believable, other than the price.
>>> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
>>> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>>>
>>> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
>>> only hope, grin.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com
>>> <mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
>>>> wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
>>>> Feeling a bit sad,
>>>> Evan
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Merv Keck <mailto:blind5spar...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
>>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>>>> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
>>>> each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
>>>> the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
>>>> amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
>>>> friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
>>>> fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
>>>> kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
>>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>>>> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> April fools!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>>>
>>>> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
>>>> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>>>> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
>>>> apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
>>>> Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
>>>> braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
>>>> braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
>>>> there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
>>>> touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
>>>> rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
>>>> to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
>>>> skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
>>>> Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
>>>> on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
>>>> a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
>>>> going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
>>>> as "Unlabelled 0":
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>>>>

Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

The HIMS notetaker is quite a decent device. It's definitely worth
getting if you can get the funding for it.


On 4/1/2017 8:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>
> It was almost believable, other than the price.
> Both Humanware and HIMS are touting android devices with a braille
> display, of course they are 4 to 5 thousand dollars.
>
> Science fiction has proven to be possible in the past, so one could
> only hope, grin.
> Richard
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Evan Reese  > wrote:
>
>> Well, I admit it, I was taken in. I guess my judgment was clouded by
>> wishful thinking. It would sure be cool to have such a device.
>> Feeling a bit sad,
>> Evan
>>  
>> *From:* Merv Keck 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:49 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* RE: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>  
>>
>> Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend
>> each year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at
>> the number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
>> amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind
>> friendly device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March
>> fourteenth and then at the end of the message they said. Hey only
>> kidding. Everyone would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind
>> with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>
>>  
>>
>> April fools!
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 
>>
>> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
>>
>> *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
>> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
>> apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
>> Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
>> braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
>> braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
>> there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
>> touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
>> rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
>> to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
>> skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
>> Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
>> on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be
>> a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
>> going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
>> as "Unlabelled 0":
>>
>> 
>> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>  
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

In other news, leaks obtained from the NFB confirm long standing rumors
that KNFB Reader will be priced at $0.99 from Monday. There will also be
an update with the feature to scan credit cards, and even handwriting.


On 4/1/2017 7:21 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>
> Well done!
> Richard
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>
>> April fool.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>>> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently
>>> reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working
>>> on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell braille display.
>>> This may be available as early as this fall, the braille cells would
>>> take up part of the screen, but of course there still would be a
>>> smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and
>>> it will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over
>>> $1,000 US. Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe
>>> to Today in iOS you can quickly skip ahead and start listening at
>>> around 32 minutes into the Podcast. I am not much of a braille user
>>> myself, but I know many on this list use braille all the time and
>>> this would probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now the
>>> link, if you listen by going to this link on a computer look for the
>>> button Jaws speaks as "Unlabelled 0":
>>>
>>> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

Get over yourself. Learn how to take a joke.

PS: CNN is partially fake news.


On 4/1/2017 6:49 PM, Merv Keck wrote:
>
> Considering how many resources Facebook and other companies spend each
> year trying to eliminate fake news, I am constantly amazed at the
> number of people who are amused by these obviously fake and not
> amusing stories. If someone posted a fake story about a blind friendly
> device on May 22^nd or a new Cumulative update on March fourteenth and
> then at the end of the message they said. Hey only kidding. Everyone
> would be angry. Not the least bit amused.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:33 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>  
>
> April fools!
>
>  
>
>  
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:*Sieghard Weitzel 
>
> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> *Sent:*Saturday, April 01, 2017 3:23 PM
>
> *Subject:*Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with
> integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that
> apparently reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said
> Apple is working on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell
> braille display. This may be available as early as this fall, the
> braille cells would take up part of the screen, but of course
> there still would be a smaller area which accepts the familiar
> touch gestures as well and it will be priced similarly to the
> rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000 US. Below is a direct link
> to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today in iOS you can quickly
> skip ahead and start listening at around 32 minutes into the
> Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but I know many
> on this list use braille all the time and this would probably be a
> big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you listen by
> going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws speaks
> as "Unlabelled 0":
>
> 
> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
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Re: Apple rumours hint at special iPhone for the blind with integrated 2-row 20-cell braille display

[Shaf Patel]

Yeah, nice one.

Trust no one today.


On 4/1/2017 6:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> April fool.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> In the most recent Today in iOS Podcast which I listened to this
>> morning at around the 32 minute mark, Rob mentioned that apparently
>> reliable sources from Mac Rumours and 9to5Mac said Apple is working
>> on a special iPhone for the blind with a 20-cell braille display.
>> This may be available as early as this fall, the braille cells would
>> take up part of the screen, but of course there still would be a
>> smaller area which accepts the familiar touch gestures as well and it
>> will be priced similarly to the rumoured iPhone 8 at just over $1,000
>> US. Below is a direct link to the Podcast, if you subscribe to Today
>> in iOS you can quickly skip ahead and start listening at around 32
>> minutes into the Podcast. I am not much of a braille user myself, but
>> I know many on this list use braille all the time and this would
>> probably be a big hit for braille users. Here now the link, if you
>> listen by going to this link on a computer look for the button Jaws
>> speaks as "Unlabelled 0":
>>
>> http://tii.libsyn.com/tii-item-0424-ios-103-gold-master-and-ios-1032-beta-1
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
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Re: AirPods - first impressions

[Shaf Patel]

It's bluetooth, they're not really all that special and there's bound to
be a delay.

On 12/19/2016 3:47 PM, Robin Christopherson wrote:
> Dear listers
>  
> I got my AirPods today and have been playing with them for a couple of
> hours now. The first thing to say is that there is some delay or lag
> which is borderline acceptable. It’s just a fraction of a second but you
> can definitely notice it. I think I’ll get used to it but may have to
> stick to wired earbuds for my Mac as that’s what I’m on for 90% of the day.
>  
> Also I was hoping that there would be some sort of magic whereby
> whichever device was active (i.e. being used) the AirPods would
> automagically switch to but this doesn’t seem to be the case unless I’m
> missing something. I’m running iOS 10 and Sierra latest versions on both
> and the pairing with both was magic – but no automatic swapping between
> both. For whichever device I use I need to manually switch the source
> away from one and to the other.
>  
> Apart from that I’m loving them and feeling very futuristic.
>  
> Thanks, Robin
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Re: Mac and Office

[Shaf Patel]

Try asking on the Macvisionaries list:
macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com

On 12/16/2016 4:20 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
> 
> Looking to get my first Mac Book but have a question.
> I know that you can put Microsoft Office on a Mac, but how accessible is Word 
> and Excel with voice over on the Mac?
> 
> Would appreciate any input from anyone who has tried Microsoft Office on 
> their Mac.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Shaf Patel]

Because KNFB Reader does not read bottles, packets etc very well, which
isn't surprising due to the shape of the product. You're better off
using TapTapSee to identify products. You'll usually be getting sighted
assistance at the store anyway.

On 11/29/2016 3:42 AM, Richard wrote:
> Why can't you use it while shopping?
> 
> Rick
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shaf Patel" <shafpa...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go
> 
> 
> You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
> signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
> materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
> worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
> have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.
> 
> On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>> Hey Guys,
>> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
>> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for
>> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there
>> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery
>> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought
>> that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have
>> using the app away from home?
>> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but
>> I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on
>> my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I
>> can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well
>> then, I could probably get one.
>> Thanks much.
>> Evan
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Shaf Patel]

You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for
> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there
> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery
> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought
> that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have
> using the app away from home?
> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but
> I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on
> my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I
> can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well
> then, I could probably get one.
> Thanks much.
> Evan
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Re: Leaving a phone dormant

[Shaf Patel]

Exactly. Thanks for talking sense, considering others and not
unnecessarily wasting resources.

On 11/28/2016 3:47 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I agree. I'd further suggest that the phone be kept in a cool dry place.
> 
> BTW, I hesitate myself to use the accessibility resources for
> non-accessibility questions and issues. I'd hate to think that a blind
> person with an accessibility issue isn't getting the help they need
> because I'm using that same resource for something that has nothing to
> do with accessibility and that I can get help with through some other
> means, just as a sighted Apple user would.
> 
> On 27/11/16 11:35, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Leave it fully charged, but off. There will always be nominal battery
>> drain, but off is the slowest for long periods of disuse.
>>
>> R.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kim Samco" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Leaving a phone dormant
>>
>>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> I will be out of the country for 5 weeks and leaving my work iPhone
>> behind.  Is it best to leave it plugged in or not?  Anything I
>> should know about leaving my phone dormant for this long?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Kim
>>
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Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

[Shaf Patel]

iRobot have a 30 day returns policy, so if it's not right for you just
return it for a full refund. I think you'll really like it though,
although you can no longer hack the newer models easily via command line.

On 11/27/2016 5:49 PM, Don Breda wrote:
> Thanks for all the answers.
> 
> 
> I wanted to get the neto but with the wifi issues etc. my friend is
> hardly technical so I felt the roomba might be easier for her to operate.
> 
> 
> I am glad the app is mostly accessible.
> 
> 
> Guess we can try it and return it if we don't like it.
> 
> 
> I used a Neato many years ago and was much more impressed with its
> cleaning ability although I thought the Roomba had a bit more inteligence.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately the Neato was quite hard to use and we just couldn't do it
> successfully most of the time so had to return it.
> 
> 
> There was the ability to access the linux shell in the neato through a
> computer but it was kind of a pain and a lot of trouble to go through
> just to try and vacuum successfully grint!
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> On 27-Nov-16 12:17 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
>>
>> Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and
>> Neato products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.
>>
>>  
>>
>> The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver,
>> but I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as
>> I could with better accessibility.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to
>> make their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I
>> received a response direct message from them several hours later
>> thanking me for bringing this to their attention, and that they had
>> forwarded the request on to engineering. Of course, there’s no
>> guarantee that anything will be done. I’ve made the same suggestion
>> through their customer support twice previously without evidence of
>> change in their 2 recent app upgrades. But, as Mark Taylor pointed out
>> to me, companies seem to have different and possibly more impactful
>> representatives on their social media streams. I encourage others
>> interested in this to either direct message NeatoRobotics, or another
>> avenue of their choice. It’s clearly in their interest to address
>> these changes.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks, Keith
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:09 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi Don,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a
>> bit cheaper and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been
>> discussed here quite a bit. I believe the app is accessible with some
>> issues, but it sounds from what Shaf said that this is also the case
>> for the Roomba.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:42 AM
>> *To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> *Subject:* Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Well the subject says it all.
>>
>>  
>>
>> A friend is considering getting one and I wanted to be sure the vacuum
>> and the app were a good combination.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Don
>>
>>  
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Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

[Shaf Patel]

I did the same with iRobot (the company that sells Roomba), they said
they'll fix the accessibility issues but haven't bothered for two months.

On 11/27/2016 5:17 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
> Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and
> Neato products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.
> 
>  
> 
> The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver,
> but I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I
> could with better accessibility.
> 
>  
> 
> I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to
> make their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I
> received a response direct message from them several hours later
> thanking me for bringing this to their attention, and that they had
> forwarded the request on to engineering. Of course, there’s no guarantee
> that anything will be done. I’ve made the same suggestion through their
> customer support twice previously without evidence of change in their 2
> recent app upgrades. But, as Mark Taylor pointed out to me, companies
> seem to have different and possibly more impactful representatives on
> their social media streams. I encourage others interested in this to
> either direct message NeatoRobotics, or another avenue of their choice.
> It’s clearly in their interest to address these changes.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, Keith
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:09 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
>  
> 
> Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a bit
> cheaper and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been
> discussed here quite a bit. I believe the app is accessible with some
> issues, but it sounds from what Shaf said that this is also the case for
> the Roomba.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:42 AM
> *To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> *Subject:* Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
> 
>  
> 
> Well the subject says it all.
> 
>  
> 
> A friend is considering getting one and I wanted to be sure the vacuum
> and the app were a good combination.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>  
> 
> Don
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Re: Leaving a phone dormant

[Shaf Patel]

No, this has nothing to do with accessibility. Don't call Apple
Accessibility about non-accessibility related queries.

On 11/27/2016 4:44 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> I would think you would be best to call Apple and get advice from them.
> There is a lot of differing opinions on this list as to best practices where 
> battery care is concerned.  When you talk to Apple, document the conversation 
> and get the person's name.
> I'd call the Apple Accessibility number: 877-204-3930
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kim Samco
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Leaving a phone dormant
> 
> Hello again,
> 
> I will be out of the country for 5 weeks and leaving my work iPhone behind.  
> Is it best to leave it plugged in or not?  Anything I should know about 
> leaving my phone dormant for this long?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Kim
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Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

[Shaf Patel]

Yeah, the app is mostly accessible (scheduling, settings etc).
Inaccessibility: battery and possibly checking the Roomba errors,
although Roomba talks to you so it's no big deal.
On 11/27/2016 12:42 PM, Don Breda wrote:
> Well the subject says it all.
> 
> 
> A friend is considering getting one and I wanted to be sure the vacuum
> and the app were a good combination.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Don
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Re: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people

[Shaf Patel]

It's not slander if it is true. Anyway, I'm glad somebody else called
her out on it. Hope she loses out more than she gains through her scams.

On 11/26/2016 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Shaf, I get it, it’s not like I don’t believe you and Sarah, but this is
> the “Viphone” list and not the “Vi-Legal” or “Vi-Slander” list. Why
> don’t we all just drop it, deal with her in whichever legal ways there
> are and remember that in order to be scammed you have to let it happen.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Shaf Patel
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:09 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of
> unsuspecting people
> 
>  
> 
> Forwareded from another group.
> 
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> 
> *Subject: *
> 
>   
> 
> Re: [MediaReq] About Eden Kizer's scams
> 
> *Date: *
> 
>   
> 
> Sat, 26 Nov 2016 12:48:57 -0500
> 
> *From: *
> 
>   
> 
> Rebecca Sutton via MediaReq <media...@lists.mediareq.com>
> <mailto:media...@lists.mediareq.com>
> 
> *Reply-To: *
> 
>   
> 
> Rebecca Sutton <rebecasut...@bell.net> <mailto:rebecasut...@bell.net>
> 
> *To: *
> 
>   
> 
> Sarah Sans <sarah...@protonmail.com> <mailto:sarah...@protonmail.com>
> 
> *CC: *
> 
>   
> 
> media...@lists.mediareq.com <mailto:media...@lists.mediareq.com>
> <media...@lists.mediareq.com> <mailto:media...@lists.mediareq.com>
> 
>  
> 
> well I have talked to her and she is a person with a lot of problems.  I 
> didn’t know that she would do something like that.  I was wondering did you 
> buy the braille note yourself?  the only reason I’m asking is because a lot 
> of people in canada are trying to sell things that they have gone from the 
> government and over here it seems that people are just doing it to make some 
> extra money for something that they haven’t purchased. I know however that in 
> the u.s people often have to purchase their own equipment  and as you say it 
> does cost a lot of money.  I can understand that you were trying to help her 
> out but I suppose that being the kind of person she is she knew that she 
> would be able to get away without paying for it because there would be 
> nothing that you  could do to get the whole payment from her.  She used to 
> work as a phone sex operator and she kept bragging about how much money she 
> got paid for doing it.  So really she could afford to pay you the money.  I 
> guess people like that don’t want to buy them from maxi aids and other places 
> like that because they won’t be able to scam the workers at such 
> organizations.  I don’t know if you know hooper but he does similar things 
> like that on a regular basis.  
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Sarah Sans via MediaReq 
>> <media...@lists.mediareq.com> <mailto:media...@lists.mediareq.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
> 
>> Hi list,
> 
>> 
> 
>> I was reading a thread on viphone where somebody else said that they were 
>> scammed by an individual named Eden Kizer. I was one of those individuals 
>> who was scammed by her.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Just over a year ago I advertised a BrailleNote braille display on 
>> Blindbargains, and was contacted by somebody named Eden Kizer asking too 
>> purchase it from me. I was selling it for $4000 and she said she couldn't 
>> afford to pay for it all at once. She asked me if she could pay monthly 
>> installments of $500 and, since I really wanted to sell it and thought she 
>> would honor her word, I took the first payment of $500 and sent her the 
>> BrailleNote. The BrailleNote was in excellent condition, had no scratches or 
>> dents, had an excellent battery and came with all the accessories including 
>> the carrying case.
> 
>> 
> 
>> I have yet to receive the rest of the payment for the BrailleNote (she owes 
>> me $3500). I have previously attempted to call her about it, and rather than 
>> talking about why she wouldn't pay the rest of the money she owes me she 
>> decided to change her phone number. She also ignores my emails.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> I just want everybody to be aware of Eden's scams. I'm extremely upset that 
>> she didn't pay me back in full for the BrailleNote I sold her and hope she 
>> doesn't do the same to anybody else. I'd hate to know that other people have 
>> also been scammed by her, although I'm sure she's done the same to oth

RE: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people

[Shaf Patel]

Forwareded from another group.



 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: [MediaReq] About Eden Kizer's scams
Date:   Sat, 26 Nov 2016 12:48:57 -0500
From:   Rebecca Sutton via MediaReq 
Reply-To:   Rebecca Sutton 
To: Sarah Sans 
CC: media...@lists.mediareq.com 



well I have talked to her and she is a person with a lot of problems.  I didn’t 
know that she would do something like that.  I was wondering did you buy the 
braille note yourself?  the only reason I’m asking is because a lot of people 
in canada are trying to sell things that they have gone from the government and 
over here it seems that people are just doing it to make some extra money for 
something that they haven’t purchased. I know however that in the u.s people 
often have to purchase their own equipment  and as you say it does cost a lot 
of money.  I can understand that you were trying to help her out but I suppose 
that being the kind of person she is she knew that she would be able to get 
away without paying for it because there would be nothing that you  could do to 
get the whole payment from her.  She used to work as a phone sex operator and 
she kept bragging about how much money she got paid for doing it.  So really 
she could afford to pay you the money.  I guess people like that don’t want to 
buy them from maxi aids and other places like that because they won’t be able 
to scam the workers at such organizations.  I don’t know if you know hooper but 
he does similar things like that on a regular basis.  
> On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Sarah Sans via MediaReq 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I was reading a thread on viphone where somebody else said that they were 
> scammed by an individual named Eden Kizer. I was one of those individuals who 
> was scammed by her.
> 
> Just over a year ago I advertised a BrailleNote braille display on 
> Blindbargains, and was contacted by somebody named Eden Kizer asking too 
> purchase it from me. I was selling it for $4000 and she said she couldn't 
> afford to pay for it all at once. She asked me if she could pay monthly 
> installments of $500 and, since I really wanted to sell it and thought she 
> would honor her word, I took the first payment of $500 and sent her the 
> BrailleNote. The BrailleNote was in excellent condition, had no scratches or 
> dents, had an excellent battery and came with all the accessories including 
> the carrying case.
> 
> I have yet to receive the rest of the payment for the BrailleNote (she owes 
> me $3500). I have previously attempted to call her about it, and rather than 
> talking about why she wouldn't pay the rest of the money she owes me she 
> decided to change her phone number. She also ignores my emails.
> 
> 
> 
> I just want everybody to be aware of Eden's scams. I'm extremely upset that 
> she didn't pay me back in full for the BrailleNote I sold her and hope she 
> doesn't do the same to anybody else. I'd hate to know that other people have 
> also been scammed by her, although I'm sure she's done the same to others. I 
> was only trying to do her a favor by accepting payment installments since I 
> understand not everybody has $4000 to pay all at once, but now I know not to 
> do that anymore and only accept a payment in full.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for reading and I hope people think twice before falling for these 
> horrible scams.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people

[Shaf Patel]

Well, she is a thief. Face the facts. Glad somebody else decided to call
her out on her deception.

On 11/26/2016 5:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Sarah,
> 
>  
> 
> $3,500 is a pretty good chunk of money. I am not at all disputing what
> you are saying but for such a large amount why not go to smallclaims
> court? Also, you at least don’t call her names and openly attack her on
> the list, you provide an account of what happened which supports Shaf,
> but beyond this it is not list related and calling somebody “thief” and
> worse is just not for this list even if it is true and it needs to be
> dealt with in other ways. Even if somebody pays in installments I guess
> it is better not to deliver the product until it is paid for in full. I
> own a retail store and we do Layaways but of course people don’t get to
> take the product until the last payment has been made.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*'Sarah Sans' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:38 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting
> people
> 
>  
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I was reading a thread where somebody else said that they were scammed
> by an individual named Eden Kizer. I was one of those individuals who
> was scammed by her.
> 
> Just over a year ago I advertised a BrailleNote braille display on
> Blindbargains, and was contacted by somebody named Eden Kizer asking too
> purchase it from me. I was selling it for $4000 and she said she
> couldn't afford to pay for it all at once. She asked me if she could pay
> monthly installments of $500 and, since I really wanted to sell it and
> thought she would honor her word, I took the first payment of $500 and
> sent her the BrailleNote. The BrailleNote was in excellent condition,
> had no scratches or dents, had an excellent battery and came with all
> the accessories including the carrying case.
> 
> I have yet to receive the rest of the payment for the BrailleNote (she
> owes me $3500). I have previously attempted to call her about it, and
> rather than talking about why she wouldn't pay the rest of the money she
> owes me she decided to change her phone number. She also ignores my emails.
> 
>  
> 
> I just want everybody to be aware of Eden's scams. I'm extremely upset
> that she didn't pay me back in full for the BrailleNote I sold her and
> hope she doesn't do the same to anybody else. I'd hate to know that
> other people have also been scammed by her, although I'm sure she's done
> the same to others. I was only trying to do her a favor by accepting
> payment installments since I understand not everybody has $4000 to pay
> all at once, but now I know not to do that anymore and only accept a
> payment in full.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for reading and I hope people think twice before falling for
> these horrible scams.
> 
>  
> 
> Sarah
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Re: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people

[Shaf Patel]

Exactly. Don't send items until you have received the payment in full no
matter what excuses they give.

On 11/26/2016 4:59 PM, Terri Stimmel wrote:
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> 
> This is just my personal opinion, and I don't mean to come across nasty.
> 
> 
> However, I purchase things sometimes, and there are times I can't pay in
> full. So I try to make arrangements with people who will work with me on
> this. And I owner my word.
> 
> 
> However, when this is donem, the person I am purchasing from, does not,
> under any circomstances, will not send me the item until it is payed for
> in full. No matter how long that takes.
> 
> 
> I'm so very sorry that you lost out, and you were scammed. But I feel
> sending it to her, before receiving all of your payment, was your
> biggest mistake.
> 
> 
> Again, I am sorry this happened to you. But please don't give up on
> helping someone if you can, just due to one possibly devious and
> munipulative person.
> 
> 
> Please just try to learn a huge lesson from this, and move on the best
> you can.
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/26/2016 10:37 AM, 'Sarah Sans' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> I was reading a thread where somebody else said that they were scammed
>> by an individual named Eden Kizer. I was one of those individuals who
>> was scammed by her.
>> Just over a year ago I advertised a BrailleNote braille display on
>> Blindbargains, and was contacted by somebody named Eden Kizer asking
>> too purchase it from me. I was selling it for $4000 and she said she
>> couldn't afford to pay for it all at once. She asked me if she could
>> pay monthly installments of $500 and, since I really wanted to sell it
>> and thought she would honor her word, I took the first payment of $500
>> and sent her the BrailleNote. The BrailleNote was in excellent
>> condition, had no scratches or dents, had an excellent battery and
>> came with all the accessories including the carrying case.
>> I have yet to receive the rest of the payment for the BrailleNote (she
>> owes me $3500). I have previously attempted to call her about it, and
>> rather than talking about why she wouldn't pay the rest of the money
>> she owes me she decided to change her phone number. She also ignores
>> my emails.
>>
>> I just want everybody to be aware of Eden's scams. I'm extremely upset
>> that she didn't pay me back in full for the BrailleNote I sold her and
>> hope she doesn't do the same to anybody else. I'd hate to know that
>> other people have also been scammed by her, although I'm sure she's
>> done the same to others. I was only trying to do her a favor by
>> accepting payment installments since I understand not everybody has
>> $4000 to pay all at once, but now I know not to do that anymore and
>> only accept a payment in full.
>>
>> Thanks for reading and I hope people think twice before falling for
>> these horrible scams.
>>
>> Sarah
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Re: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people

[Shaf Patel]

Congratulations! Now you know for next time. Sorry you trusted her and
fell for her deception.

On 11/26/2016 4:37 PM, 'Sarah Sans' via VIPhone wrote:
> Hi list,
> I was reading a thread where somebody else said that they were scammed
> by an individual named Eden Kizer. I was one of those individuals who
> was scammed by her.
> Just over a year ago I advertised a BrailleNote braille display on
> Blindbargains, and was contacted by somebody named Eden Kizer asking too
> purchase it from me. I was selling it for $4000 and she said she
> couldn't afford to pay for it all at once. She asked me if she could pay
> monthly installments of $500 and, since I really wanted to sell it and
> thought she would honor her word, I took the first payment of $500 and
> sent her the BrailleNote. The BrailleNote was in excellent condition,
> had no scratches or dents, had an excellent battery and came with all
> the accessories including the carrying case.
> I have yet to receive the rest of the payment for the BrailleNote (she
> owes me $3500). I have previously attempted to call her about it, and
> rather than talking about why she wouldn't pay the rest of the money she
> owes me she decided to change her phone number. She also ignores my emails.
> 
> I just want everybody to be aware of Eden's scams. I'm extremely upset
> that she didn't pay me back in full for the BrailleNote I sold her and
> hope she doesn't do the same to anybody else. I'd hate to know that
> other people have also been scammed by her, although I'm sure she's done
> the same to others. I was only trying to do her a favor by accepting
> payment installments since I understand not everybody has $4000 to pay
> all at once, but now I know not to do that anymore and only accept a
> payment in full.
> 
> Thanks for reading and I hope people think twice before falling for
> these horrible scams.
> 
> Sarah
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Re: How to forward a text message

[Shaf Patel]

double tap and hold on the message.

On 11/24/2016 3:51 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:
> Hi Group,
> 
> How do you forward a text message?
> 
> Mr. Ed
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Re: Google Allo's inability to play voice messages with Vo active?

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It's working just fine for me.

On 11/24/2016 3:18 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>  HI listers
> Am I the only one that from the most recent update of the Google Allo
> app to version 3.0, I'm no longer able to play audio messages with
> Voiceover active? I have to deactivate Voiceover and hunt with my finger
> for the message! Hopefully this will get fixed soon; before, it was very
> very accessible!
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Re: Refunding older paid apps?

[Shaf Patel]

Apple will not issue you a refund for an app outside of 60 days of
purchase (confirmed by an iTunes advisor).

On 11/24/2016 1:56 AM, Maria Reyes wrote:
> PodCruncher I am having problems with streaming podcasts. I have to look
> for theb other apps I know there is more
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:50 PM -0500, "Sieghard Weitzel"
> > wrote:
> 
> I still doubt Apple would do anything if an app which initially worked 
> with Voiceover and which now maybe hasn't been updated for 5 years is no 
> longer accessible. Just out of curiocity, what are some of the apps you are 
> having problems with?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Maria Reyes
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Refunding older paid apps?
> 
> Well I am having problems with some apps. Some apps don't work with VO 
> anymore.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> > 
> > I've never heard of anything like that before. I don't know of any 
> rules that Apple would have forcing devs to give refunds if they abandon an 
> app that people paid for.
> > 
> > 
> >> On 11/23/2016 7:28 PM, Maria Reyes wrote:
> >> Yes. I thought I had to contact Apple via email?
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >> 
> >>> On Nov 23, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> You mean like get your money back? I doubt that's possible.
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On 11/23/2016 7:19 PM, Maria Reyes wrote:
>  Hi everyone! Does any body know how to refund older paid apps? I 
> have some apps that haven't been updated in a long time.
>  
>  Sent from my iPad
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Re: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm

[Shaf Patel]

A suggestion on keeping apps open in the background: If you really want
to do so and don't care about background app refresh, turn it off. It'll
save a ton of battery.
Low Power Mode is also great, you'll still receive your push
notifications and calls.

On 11/23/2016 2:37 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> Anything that uses GPS or the camera will usually use more battery
> power than other apps. There are also the exceptions, like Facebook
> and perhaps that Rogers app, which also use a lot of battery power. I
> regularly tell students to close the GPS and camera apps when they are
> done using them. When I gave my older iPhone to my wife several years
> ago, she thought that just because she went to the home screen, the
> phone would automatically take care of her apps. She was telling me
> that she started at a full charge early in the morning, and by 10am,
> her battery was down to 10 percent. I looked at her phone and saw that
> she had around 40 apps in the App Switcher; no wonder her battery was
> dropping faster than the stock market. Things are better today since
> we both have the iPhone 7, and these newer phones manage apps and
> processes much better. Still, I try to restart my phone at least once
> a week and keepa  close watch on how many apps are in the App
> Switcher. In doing these things, my battery generally lasts between 13
> and 16 hours a day before I need to charge. For full disclosure, I use
> to have the Apple smart Battery Case for my 6S and that was awesome.
> However, with the 7, you get an extra 1-2 hours of battery life and
> the phone is a lot better about managing things, that I really don't
> need one anymore.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/23/16, Pablo Cesar Morales  wrote:
>> I have noticed that when I use apps like google maps, or maps, even after
>> arriving to my destination, if I keep the app in the background, the battery
>> is consumed quickly. More over some apps when they are not running in the
>> background, are not using resources like Bluetooth or notifications, so
>> closing these apps also helps.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mr. Ed
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm
>>
>>
>>
>> I find this hard to believe that closing an app in the app switcher is going
>> to create problems. I will have to hear this from a good reliable  source
>> before I believe this. I think closing an app is just like closing it on the
>> pc. It has no effect. In fact it might run better as it clear all the junk
>> out and the app a lot of times works better after closing it in the app
>> switcher and reopening it. This is what you said, “please, please, please
>> read this article, closing your apps is a very, very unhelpful thing to do.”
>> Now you need to go back an read the article on the link you posted. It said
>> closing an app does not help battery life. I did not see where it said
>> anything about closing an app could be harmful.
>>
>> Please correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just a couple of things here. First, is that screen curtain on its own will
>> not help your battery. You must turn the brightness down to help in any way.
>> Second, charging at higher levels does not affect your battery like it used
>> to be rumored to. Third, and please, please, please read this article,
>> closing your apps is a very, very unhelpful thing to do. It will not save
>> battery and is not recommended (except for that one nasty time when Roger
>> decided to eat your battery like a picnic lunch). Read this article and be
>> informed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.wired.com/2016/03/closing-apps-save-battery-makes-things-worse/
>>
>> Essentially, closing an app tells your device that something’s wrong,
>> forcing it to try to find another way to do things. After closing apps a
>> lot, your phone can become unstable and begin behaving oddly, causing the
>> necessity to restart or even restore the device.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Aleeha
>>
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Tony  >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> From what I have read and experienced with lithium batteries charging habits
>> don't have much effect on them.  Depending on brand and the care in
>> manufacturing most batteries can be nearly completely discharged and then
>> fully recharged from 300 to 1000 times.  Warranties are usually calculated
>> at about 300 times but I have seen some as low as 100 cycles.
>>
>> The life of a battery is not based on the number of times you charge it 

Re: recording a skype call

[Shaf Patel]

When are you going to pay off your debts?
Probably never. Shame on you.
On 11/23/2016 9:42 AM, Eden wrote:
> I know there are apss that do this, but  I've seen several in the past. Which 
> do you find very  usable? I'm doing piano lessons via skype and I'd like to 
> record them. Thank you. 
> Eden
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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Shaf Patel]

Maybe mark his junk as spam so it doesn't even reach your inbox.

On 11/22/2016 6:32 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> Hi Billy. I'm only gonna reply to this message on list and after that
> I'll shut up because I might have ruffled a few feathers on here with my
> last comment. Unfortunately, I've only used Outlook for a few years and
> I'm still kinda learning. So no, I don't know how to create a filter on
> there. I don't even know how to create filters on Mac Mail but I'd love
> to learn so messages like the one I sent last night don't make it to the
> list. That's all I'll say. I think we should close this topic as Mark
> asked us to. I'll talk more off list if you'd like.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Billy Maynard > > wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>>  
>> since you mentioned a filter would there be a way to do such a thing
>> for him on outlook windows?   I've been giving my delete  key a
>> workout too because of him.  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> *From:* Shawn Krasniuk 
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 12:35 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
>>>
>>> Guys, why are you replying to his messages? The more you respond, the
>>> more you fuel the flames of his entitledness. I've deleted all of his
>>> emails after reading the first and second emails because I've
>>> realized that his opinions or facts matter and everybody else's
>>> don't. It's like he has the mentality of I'm better than you so I'm
>>> right and you're wrong. That's why the delete key has been my friend
>>> because I don't take him seriously. So if you ignore him, he'll go
>>> away. Maybe if I don't wanna keep pressing the delete button since I
>>> want to read what other people are saying and it takes up my time, I
>>> might learn how to set up a filter on Mail for my Mac so I don't have
>>> to read his messages again or keep deleting. Hope everyone has a good
>>> night.
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>
 On Nov 20, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Todd Patkus > wrote:

 Merv,
 That is for you.  I have no use.
 There are many apps related to Health.
 Apple Inc. is simply and slyly luring folks and those on this list
 to buy their products.
 Thanks.
 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Merv Keck
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 20, 2016 11:04 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* RE: Delete & remove in iOS
 Health might be useless to you. but I get gift cards from Amazon and
 iTunes for walking five miles a day thanks to the Health app. I use
 it to count my steps. Then I open my insurance app and the
 information from the health app is seamlessly transferred to the
 insurance app and when I get enough points I can cash in for as many
 gift cards as I can. I have already spent quite a few dollars at
 both Amazon and the App store over the past few years. I could save
 up for other purchases, even iPads and there are other stores as
 well such as Target. But these are the two I like to shop with.
 Apple can put all the stock apps they want on my 128 GB iPhone as
 long as the money keeps rolling in.
 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Todd Patkus
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 20, 2016 11:51 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* RE: Delete & remove in iOS
 Mary,
 You are mistaken.  I do not have behavioral problems.  No
 psychological issues, either!
 You do not understand the points I have made.  I have nothing
 against y’all.  Y’all need to learn to be a little bit more
 understanding.  That is where you need to work on.
 I do not need anything to do with Android.  That is not my thing.
 Some of you do not have common sense like I do.  I noticed that, yes.
 Only time will tell.  You will then see what it means.
 That is all.
 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mary Otten
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:47 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
 Well, this could be get me kicked 

Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Shaf Patel]

How very kind of you.

On 11/21/2016 5:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Shaf,
> 
> I may not agree with Todd's attitude, but you still should be careful when 
> you judge, you simply don't know somebody until you walked in their shoes.
> I definitely also don't appreciate people calling others jerk no matter what, 
> those who do that are no better and often worse than the person they are so 
> quick to label with such words.
> If I were moderator you would be off the list based on that statement.
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shaf Patel
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
> Jerks will be jerks. /ignore
> 
> On 11/21/2016 5:00 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
>>
>> Mr. Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of 
>> his posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help 
>> him. I do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in 
>> a wheelchair, have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside 
>> the country, U.S., there is no need to be nasty. There is far, far too 
>> much of that going around. It is time he try and make a point without 
>> attacking the very folks who are helping him. I have a hearing deficit 
>> also and frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there 
>> were no computers much less voice or braille displays. Talk about 
>> frustration. I had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my 
>> first computer at work. Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter. 
>> I do not know his age, but it does come across as a spoiled child. 
>> Jonathan is never nasty, and he has a worse hearing difficulty than 
>> me. Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs) On 
>> Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net 
>> <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Reggie,
>>
>> Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board. So he cannot use the 
>> method you gave him.
>>
>> Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step 
>> by step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
>>
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you 
>> are using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much 
>> trouble, but I am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps, 
>> tapped on that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one 
>> finger on that and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app 
>> or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Reggie and Lex
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:tpte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> All:
>>
>>  
>>
>> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
>>
>>  
>>
>> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, 
>> when I tried doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be 
>> deleted”.  This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to 
>> realize.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What 
>> kind of thing is that?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Use your common sense!
>>
>>  
>>
>> That is all I can say now.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Todd
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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Shaf Patel]

Jerks will be jerks. /ignore

On 11/21/2016 5:00 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
> 
> Mr. Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of his
> posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help him. I
> do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in a
> wheelchair, have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside the
> country, U.S., there is no need to be nasty. There is far, far too much
> of that going around. It is time he try and make a point without
> attacking the very folks who are helping him. I have a hearing deficit
> also and frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there
> were no computers much less voice or braille displays. Talk about
> frustration. I had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my first
> computer at work. Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter. I do not
> know his age, but it does come across as a spoiled child. Jonathan is
> never nasty, and he has a worse hearing difficulty than me. Would Helen
> Keller be nasty? Me thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs)
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr. Ed  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Reggie,
> 
> Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board. So he cannot use the
> method you gave him.
> 
> Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by
> step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
> 
> Mr. Ed
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you
> are using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much
> trouble, but I am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps,
> tapped on that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one
> finger on that and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app
> or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest. 
> 
>  
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  > wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
>  
> 
> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
> 
>  
> 
> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when
> I tried doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be
> deleted”.  This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to
> realize.
> 
>  
> 
> Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What
> kind of thing is that?
> 
>  
> 
> Use your common sense!
> 
>  
> 
> That is all I can say now.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Todd
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Re: changing topic how to stop harassment

[Shaf Patel]

Hilarious!

On 11/17/2016 7:05 PM, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Shaf,
> 
> What Rich said stands truthful.
> 
> Your behavior is being monitored by the NSA.  You need to behave a better 
> person, or else, you could be removed from this list.
> 
> You have only two choices:
> 
> Show good behavior and you will stay.
> 
> Continue behaving immaturely, you are out.
> 
> Yes, it is up to Mark and Cara.
> 
> Think twice.
> 
> Todd
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Richard McGann
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: changing topic how to stop harassment
> 
> I apologize to all of you.
> 
> shaf, mind your own business. let eden be the way and let her take good air 
> and enjoy life. let's move on.
> 
> shaf, do you realize that your words is public and there would be security 
> looking at you.
> 
> sincerely,
> rich
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: changing topic how to stop harassment
> 
> Shaf,
> 
> Even if Eden did what you said, it's your word against hers, that really is 
> not something you should bother this or other groups with. If I were the 
> moderator which fortunately for you I am not, you'd already be gone from this 
> list. As Eden said, if you have a legit claim against her then pursue it in 
> the normal and legal ways, but either way just quit it already on this list, 
> please.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shaf Patel
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: changing topic how to stop harassment
> 
> Pay your debts, stop stealing from individuals, stop lying and make amends 
> with the people who's trust you violated. But you'd rather spend that money 
> on weed instead of paying people back for the items you purchased on payment 
> plans.
> 
> On 11/17/2016 3:14 PM, Eden wrote:
>> How do I contact admin? This harassment has gone on for 4 years. I 
>> have invited Mr. Patel to file a lawsuit against me if he thinks I owe 
>> him money which I do not, but instead he has for 4 years attempted to 
>> harass me in public forums, attempted !be other person to obtain more 
>> personal info and the like. He has mad to being on any blind groups a 
>> nightmare. I am certainly hoping that the rest of this list might 
>> stand up with me and ask for this to stop. I asked a prior list admin 
>> to please ask Mr. Patel to stop tha that least publicly, but I was 
>> told this was a personal matter. I can ignore his personal attacks, 
>> delete is wonderful for that, but when he does this publicly, it 
>> impedes my abiltion to ask questions or my desire to answer others.
>> Thank you Eden Kizer
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:59 am
>> Subject: Re: how can I tell my drivers where to find me
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just asked this, off list;  too soon to have had a reply yet though.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 5:41 AM
>>> Subject: RE: how can I tell my drivers where to find me
>>>
>>>
>>> What does that mean? What do debts have to do with Lift or Uber?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Shaf Patel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 3:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: how can I tell my drivers where to find me
>>>
>>> Pay off your debts.
>>>
>>> On 11/16/2016 6:42 PM, Eden wrote:
>>>> Where I'm being picked up at is going to be a little tricky. I had 
>>>> put in a schedule with Lyft which I have never used before.
>>>> Where would I go to let the driver know how to find me etc. All 
>>>> that's in front of my apartments is a parking lot and astreet. I'd 
>>>> like to make sure they pull into the parking lot. I thought there 
>>>> might be a place to put such info since it's my house but I can't 
>>>> see it you. for either Uber

Re: changing topic how to stop harassment

[Shaf Patel]

Pay your debts, stop stealing from individuals, stop lying and make
amends with the people who's trust you violated. But you'd rather spend
that money on weed instead of paying people back for the items you
purchased on payment plans.

On 11/17/2016 3:14 PM, Eden wrote:
> How do I contact admin? This harassment has gone on for 4 years. I have 
> invited Mr. Patel to file a lawsuit against me if he thinks I owe him money 
> which I do not, but instead he has for 4 years attempted to harass me in 
> public forums, attempted !be other person to obtain more personal info and 
> the like. He has mad to being on any blind groups a nightmare. I am certainly 
> hoping that the rest of this list might stand up with me and ask for this to 
> stop. I asked a prior list admin to please ask Mr. Patel to stop tha that 
> least publicly, but I was told this was a personal matter. I can ignore his 
> personal attacks, delete is wonderful for that, but when he does this 
> publicly, it impedes my abiltion to ask questions or my desire to answer 
> others. Thank you
> Eden Kizer 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:59 am
> Subject: Re: how can I tell my drivers where to find me
> 
>>
>>
>> I just asked this, off list;  too soon to have had a reply yet though.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 5:41 AM
>> Subject: RE: how can I tell my drivers where to find me
>>
>>
>> What does that mean? What do debts have to do with Lift or Uber?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Shaf Patel
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 3:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: how can I tell my drivers where to find me
>>
>> Pay off your debts.
>>
>> On 11/16/2016 6:42 PM, Eden wrote:
>>> Where I'm being picked up at is going to be a little tricky. I had put in a 
>>> schedule with Lyft which I have never used before. 
>>> Where would I go to let the driver know how to find me etc. All that's in 
>>> front of my apartments is a parking lot and astreet. I'd 
>>> like to make sure they pull into the parking lot. I thought there might be 
>>> a place to put such info since it's my house but I 
>>> can't see it you. for either Uber or Lyft. Than
>>>
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Re: how can I tell my drivers where to find me

[Shaf Patel]

If you're going to write a blatant lie, at least do yourself a favor and
learn how to write a / (slash) symbol on your stolen braille display.
Pay back the people you owe, thief.

On 11/17/2016 6:23 AM, Eden wrote:
> I apologize for this message. This man has been harassing me for an imaginary 
> debt onstoff this list for 4 years. No one will stop him from doing this on 
> and off list so I apologize. 
> Eden
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:41 pm
> Subject: RE: how can I tell my drivers where to find me
> 
>>
>>
>> What does that mean? What do debts have to do with Lift or Uber?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Shaf Patel
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 3:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: how can I tell my drivers where to find me
>>
>> Pay off your debts.
>>
>> On 11/16/2016 6:42 PM, Eden wrote:
>>> Where I'm being picked up at is going to be a little tricky. I had put in a 
>>> schedule with Lyft which I have never used before. Where would I go to let 
>>> the driver know how to find me etc. All that's in front of my apartments is 
>>> a parking lot and astreet. I'd like to make sure they pull into the parking 
>>> lot. I thought there might be a place to put such info since it's my house 
>>> but I can't see it you. for either Uber or Lyft. Than
>>>
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Re: how can I tell my drivers where to find me

[Shaf Patel]

Pay off your debts.

On 11/16/2016 6:42 PM, Eden wrote:
> Where I'm being picked up at is going to be a little tricky. I had put in a 
> schedule with Lyft which I have never used before. Where would I go to let 
> the driver know how to find me etc. All that's in front of my apartments is a 
> parking lot and astreet. I'd like to make sure they pull into the parking 
> lot. I thought there might be a place to put such info since it's my house 
> but I can't see it you. for either Uber or Lyft. Than
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Re: CamFind

[Shaf Patel]

Maybe you should use a more relevant subject line when posting to the list.

On 11/16/2016 1:43 PM, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Sandy,
> 
> No change.  Same as before.  Nothing better.
> 
> Maybe someone on this list may know how to solve the issue.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Todd, here is the link for you
> 
> Tod,
> 
> Yes! Press the sleep/wake button on the right of the phone, holding it 
> down for a few seconds. Hopefully, your braille display will say "swipe to 
> turn off", doubletap on that, in which ever way you do that. Leave your phone 
> for a minute, just to clear its memory of unnecessary stuff and then press 
> the sleep/wake button again, holding it in for about 3 seconds and wait! It 
> might take your phone a little while to sort itself out, it is a sort of 
> reboot. after a while, you whould see another message on your braille 
> display. With my phone, I find myself on the last app used or the home screen.
> 
> Hope this helps, Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 16 Nov 2016, at 12:38, Todd Patkus  wrote:
>>
>> You mean I turn it off with the sleep/wak up button on the right side?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Todd, here is the link for you
>>
>> perhaps, you should power cycle your phone? I mean turn it off properly 
>> leave it a minute and then turn it on again.
>> Sandy
>>
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>
>>> On 16 Nov 2016, at 12:25, Todd Patkus  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sandy and Hope,
>>>
>>> I was able to download the Camfind app onto my iPhone, but it will not 
>>> open.  I did insert my Gmail address then my passcode, it will not log in!
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:23 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Todd, here is the link for you
>>>
>>> CamFind - Visual Search, QR Reader, Price Comparison & Barcode Scanner by 
>>> CamFind Inc.
>>> https://appsto.re/ie/0ebHJ.i
>>>
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Re: how to delete pictures off of the iPhone

[Shaf Patel]

https://www.google.com/#q=deleting+pictures+on+iPhone+with+file+explorer

On 11/15/2016 5:41 AM, Casey wrote:
> hi can you please pass along instructions on how to get your pictures
> from your phone using file explorer on you computer.
> With out dealing with iTunes.

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Re: Network Connection In Progress

[Shaf Patel]

You cannot.

On 11/15/2016 3:12 AM, Kathy Brandt wrote:
> I had asked: on my iPod touch a lot of times I get network connection in 
> progress; iPod is strictly Wi-Fi. Sorry that my previous message ended up 
> towards the end; didn't realize I wasn't at the top. How can I fix network 
> connection in progress on iPod touch?
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Richard  wrote:
>>
>> Is there a new statement in here somewhere?
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Kathy Brandt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 5:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: Network Connection In Progress
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>
>>> Trying this again, I have to agree with Sieghard, in that my problem with 
>>> wifi assist is that it is on by default. A lot of people are going to be 
>>> using data and not knowing why. I checked,  and apparently it had gotten 
>>> turned on again during some upgrade. It is off now, that network 
>>> connection in progress icon has not appeared for the last two days. Let's 
>>> hope it is gone for good.
>>>
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chip,
>>>
>>> That is everybody's choice, if you have a big data plan you can certainly 
>>> leave it on. If I am at a hotel or on some other free WiFi and it doesn't 
>>> work reliably I just turn WiFi off and use my cell data. The problem I 
>>> have is not so much with the feature, but with the fact that it's on by 
>>> default.
>>> Many average users are not even aware of this setting especially since 
>>> it's hidden way below all the apps listed in Cellular settings so it can 
>>> just not be a good thing for people who don't have a lot of data and who 
>>> wonder why they are using so much of it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 12:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Network Connection In Progress
>>>
>>> I have to disagree with Sieghard about turning off wifi assist (unless you 
>>> simply never leave home).  I've been away from home in locations which 
>>> were supposed to provide free wifi, but what I've found is that their wifi 
>>> was so excessively slow, or the signal was so excessively poor, that I 
>>> could not use the internet at all without having wifi assist enabled to 
>>> switch over to use of cellular data.
>>>
>>> I suppose I could keep trying and failing with the wifi, until I figured 
>>> out it wasn't going to work, then tell it to go "forget this network", so 
>>> it would then use my cellular data, but on my next visit it could work ok, 
>>> but since I had to "forget" the network in order to use cell data, I'd 
>>> never know without going through all that again.
>>>
>>> I guess I am never this close to using every last byte of my cell data 
>>> plan, so I don't have to worry about it, and I simply want my phone to 
>>> work and work quickly (especially since I use siri to execute a lot of my 
>>> commands, and it needs internet access to even parse and execute my 
>>> commands).
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:23 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Network Connection In Progress
>>>
>>> Hi Arnold,
>>>
>>> Maybe check in Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services. 
>>> This is at the end of location services and I would turn off most of what 
>>> is in there except of course Find my iPhone and so on. But there are 
>>> things like traffic, frequent places, cell network search, Wi-fi Network 
>>> search, automatic time zone and all of that which you can turn off, maybe 
>>> that makes a difference as far as the message in the status bar that your 
>>> Wi-Fi connection is active.
>>> Also make sure you go to Settings > Cellular and again almost at the 
>>> bottom above Reset make sure WiFi Assist is turned off. This is more to 
>>> protect yourself from using excessive cellular data since this setting 
>>> means that if it is on your cellular data/connection is used to make up 
>>> for situations when your WiFi signal is poor. I just realized when I 
>>> checked it that it is on on my phone, I received a warranty replacement a 
>>> couple of weeks ago and this setting is on by default and I hadn't turned 
>>> it off yet. However, looking at the amount of data used, 3.8 Mb, it is 
>>> very minor as this was over a two-week period.
>>> Lastly, make sure you don't, for some reason, have Personal Hotspot on.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: Network Connection In Progress

[Shaf Patel]

On 11/15/2016 2:28 AM, Richard wrote:
> Is there a new statement in here somewhere?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kathy Brandt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Network Connection In Progress
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>> Trying this again, I have to agree with Sieghard, in that my problem with 
>> wifi assist is that it is on by default. A lot of people are going to be 
>> using data and not knowing why. I checked,  and apparently it had gotten 
>> turned on again during some upgrade. It is off now, that network 
>> connection in progress icon has not appeared for the last two days. Let's 
>> hope it is gone for good.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chip,
>>
>> That is everybody's choice, if you have a big data plan you can certainly 
>> leave it on. If I am at a hotel or on some other free WiFi and it doesn't 
>> work reliably I just turn WiFi off and use my cell data. The problem I 
>> have is not so much with the feature, but with the fact that it's on by 
>> default.
>> Many average users are not even aware of this setting especially since 
>> it's hidden way below all the apps listed in Cellular settings so it can 
>> just not be a good thing for people who don't have a lot of data and who 
>> wonder why they are using so much of it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 12:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Network Connection In Progress
>>
>> I have to disagree with Sieghard about turning off wifi assist (unless you 
>> simply never leave home).  I've been away from home in locations which 
>> were supposed to provide free wifi, but what I've found is that their wifi 
>> was so excessively slow, or the signal was so excessively poor, that I 
>> could not use the internet at all without having wifi assist enabled to 
>> switch over to use of cellular data.
>>
>> I suppose I could keep trying and failing with the wifi, until I figured 
>> out it wasn't going to work, then tell it to go "forget this network", so 
>> it would then use my cellular data, but on my next visit it could work ok, 
>> but since I had to "forget" the network in order to use cell data, I'd 
>> never know without going through all that again.
>>
>> I guess I am never this close to using every last byte of my cell data 
>> plan, so I don't have to worry about it, and I simply want my phone to 
>> work and work quickly (especially since I use siri to execute a lot of my 
>> commands, and it needs internet access to even parse and execute my 
>> commands).
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Network Connection In Progress
>>
>> Hi Arnold,
>>
>> Maybe check in Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services. 
>> This is at the end of location services and I would turn off most of what 
>> is in there except of course Find my iPhone and so on. But there are 
>> things like traffic, frequent places, cell network search, Wi-fi Network 
>> search, automatic time zone and all of that which you can turn off, maybe 
>> that makes a difference as far as the message in the status bar that your 
>> Wi-Fi connection is active.
>> Also make sure you go to Settings > Cellular and again almost at the 
>> bottom above Reset make sure WiFi Assist is turned off. This is more to 
>> protect yourself from using excessive cellular data since this setting 
>> means that if it is on your cellular data/connection is used to make up 
>> for situations when your WiFi signal is poor. I just realized when I 
>> checked it that it is on on my phone, I received a warranty replacement a 
>> couple of weeks ago and this setting is on by default and I hadn't turned 
>> it off yet. However, looking at the amount of data used, 3.8 Mb, it is 
>> very minor as this was over a two-week period.
>> Lastly, make sure you don't, for some reason, have Personal Hotspot on.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Network Connection In Progress
>>
>> It makes perfect sense when this is in my status bar when I am doing 
>> something for it to be there. But sometimes, it is there when I am not. 
>> Perhaps it is left over from when I was doing something, but I assume the 
>> connection is still live. Even when I close everything in the 

What's New in iOS 10.2 Beta 3: TV App Updates, SOS and Videos App Removed

[Shaf Patel]

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/14/whats-new-in-ios-10-2-beta-3/

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Live Reader comments

[Shaf Patel]

Hello,
I read a message on this list a few days ago, somebody asked if Live
Reader was any good.
It sucks for the most part, but it's OK if you have time to focus the
camera for 10 seconds to read signs. It's useless for books, newspapers,
your computer screen etc. It's not worth the price and until they vastly
improve the app, I recommend KNFBReader for the time being. Live Reader
hasn't been updated in months.

-Shaf

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Re: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone

[Shaf Patel]

they'll only take a few months to fix the bug.

On 11/10/2016 3:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Yes, just sent another message to accessibil...@apple.com
>  about that again today, it’s been
> mentioned on the list before and I can only hope that everybody takes
> the minute or two it takes to shoot off a message to Apple about it
> since that one definitely seems to be a freely available bug on all devices.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Ruby
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 6:25 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone
> 
>  
> 
> I wanted to mention too after I put the phone to my ear if you do it
> quick enough you hear incoming call, kind of strange since it is an out
> going call.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 09, 2016 7:00 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Auto switching of calls from earpiece to speakerphone
> 
>  
> 
> Hi List,
> 
>  
> 
> I am wondering if others experience this annoying issue where when you
> dial a call and it starts ringing in the earpiece you then place your
> phone against your ear and as soon as the other party answers the call
> decides to switch to speakerphone. You have to take the phone away from
> the ear, wait a second or two and then put it back up to your face
> before it usually switches back to the earpiece. Of course if you are in
> a public place this can be annoying since usually the other party can't
> hear you right away and keeps asking what's going on.
> 
> In my opinion this is not a hardware issue since this happened on my 6S
> Plus which was just replaced under warranty and the new phone has the
> exact same issue. This replacement phone was also set up as a new phone
> and was not restored from a backup.
> 
> I seem to remember that this started happening when I started to use Ios
> 10 and so far it continues to happen almost 100% of the time, from time
> to time I make a call and it does not happen. At the same time if I
> start a call and then put the phone to my face and take it away or put
> my hand over the top of the phone and then take it away to trigger the
> audio to go to speakerphone, the call usually reverts to the earpiece
> when somebody answers so the issues seems to go both ways.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
>  
> 
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Re: Speak screen in Kindle app?

[Shaf Patel]

no.

On 11/8/2016 7:04 PM, Harry Bell wrote:
> I'm trying to use Speak Screen on my iPhone 7 Plus with latest iOS. If I open 
> a Kindle book and then swipe down with two fingers or tell Siri to speak 
> screen, all goes well until I turn off the screen with a tap on the power 
> button: after this the iPhone carries on reading only until the end of the 
> current page and then stops dead. Have I misunderstood something? Harry
> 

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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

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Proof that the "NDA" doesn't need to be followed and means nothing:
MacRumors covers beta releases, and they are a part of the press invited
to Apple keynote events. Feel free to discuss betas.

What’s New in iOS 10.2 Beta 2: SOS Feature, Music Changes and New ‘TV’
App http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/07/whats-new-in-ios-10-2-beta-2/

iOS 10.2 Beta 2 Includes New ‘TV’ App for Discovering Content
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/07/ios-10-2-includes-new-tv-app/

Apple Seeds Second Beta of tvOS 10.1 to Developers With Single Sign-On
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/07/apple-seeds-tvos-10-1-beta-2-to-developers/

Apple Seeds Second Beta of watchOS 3.1.1 to Developers
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/07/apple-seeds-watchos-3-1-1-beta-2-to-developers/
Apple Seeds Second Beta of iOS 10.2 to Developers
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/07/apple-seeds-ios-10-2-beta-2-to-developers/


On 11/8/2016 4:41 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I don't know if the NDA is a big deal as far as Apple is concerned or
> how much trouble you could get into from Apple, but I do know Apple says
> the following at https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/legal
> 
> 5. Definition of Confidential Information.  You agree that the
> Pre-Release Software and any information concerning the Pre-Release
> Software (including its nature and existence, features, functionality,
> and screen shots), the Seeding Tools, and any other information
> disclosed by Apple to you in connection with the Beta Program will be
> considered and referred to in this Agreement as “Confidential Information.”
> 
> 6. Nonuse and Nondisclosure of Confidential Information.  Except as
> expressly permitted in this Section 6, you agree that you will not
> disclose, publish, or otherwise disseminate any Confidential Information
> to anyone other than individuals who are enrolled in the same individual
> seed as you, or as otherwise expressly permitted or agreed to in writing
> by Apple.  You further agree to take reasonable precautions to prevent
> any unauthorized use, disclosure, publication, or dissemination of
> Confidential Information, including preventing access to or display of
> the Apple Software to third parties.  You agree to use the Confidential
> Information solely for the permitted uses as set forth in this
> Agreement.  You agree not to use Confidential Information otherwise for
> your own or any third party’s benefit without the prior written approval
> of an authorized representative of Apple in each instance.  You hereby
> acknowledge that unauthorized disclosure or use of Confidential
> Information could cause irreparable harm and significant injury to Apple
> that may be difficult to ascertain.  Accordingly, you agree that Apple
> will have the right to seek immediate injunctive relief to enforce
> obligations under this Agreement in addition to any other rights and
> remedies it may have.
> 
> I'm not here to tell anyone what to do or not do with the beta and the
> NDA, but I would definitely encourage anyone to read the NDA before they
> agree to it and join the beta and make up your own mind as to what Apple
> wants you to do and not do. I definitely would not just take the word of
> Shaf Patel on this list.
> 
> On 07/11/16 20:55, Robin Frost wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I wasn't as worried about Apple as I was violating list policies about
>> such things which is why I was careful to clarify the scope of my
>> question from the outset (smile).
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Shaf Patel
>> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers
>>
>> Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple
>> for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device
>> because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.
>>
>> On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
>>> non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
>>> participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main
>>> iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a
>>> secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it
>>> back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was curious what
>>> others chose and why.
>>> See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
>>> curiosity.
>>> Robin
>>>
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Re: the difference between text messages and iMessages

[Shaf Patel]

Yes you can. You either send an iMessage to a phone number or an email
address (or Apple ID)

On 11/8/2016 12:38 AM, Terrie Terlau wrote:
> Can you send an iMessage to an iPod? I'm asking because you said we don't 
> need a phone number to send iMessages. Also, what do you use instead of a 
> phone number?
> Thank you so much. I have been trying to figure out the difference between 
> these two kinds of messages for several years.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>
>> iMessages use Apple servers, so you can use them between two Apple devices. 
>> They will use your data and not your text messaging plan. You can use your 
>> Apple ID, and you don't need a cellular number.
>>
>> Text messages are SMS messages that use your cellular provider's services. 
>> You'll need a cellular number to send a text message. You can send text 
>> messages to any other device with a phone number that supports SMS.
>>
>>> On 06/11/16 18:14, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>>> What’s The Difference Between iMessage and Text Messages on iPhone?
>>>  1
>>> BY
>>> DAVID PAYETTE
>>> ON JANUARY 28, 2016
>>> IPHONE
>>> What's The Difference Between iMessages and Text Messages on iPhone?
>>>
>>> Underneath the surface, iMessages and text messages are fundamentally
>>> different technologies, even though they both live in the Messages app
>>> on your iPhone.
>>> I think it’s important for every iPhone owner to know the difference
>>> between text messages and iMessages, because that knowledge can have a
>>> significant
>>> impact on your phone bill.
>>>
>>> Text Messages
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>>> list of 3 items
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>>> frame
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>>>
>>> Regular text messages use the text messaging plan that you purchase
>>> through your carrier. There are two kinds of text messages:
>>>
>>> list of 2 items
>>> ◾ SMS (Short Message Service): The original text messages that we’ve
>>> been using for years. SMS messages are limited to 160 characters and can
>>> only contain
>>> text.
>>> ◾ MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service): MMS messages extend the capability
>>> of original text messages, and support sending photos, longer text
>>> messages, and
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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Shaf Patel]

Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple
for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device
because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.

On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
> Hi,
> No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
> non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
> participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main
> iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a
> secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it
> back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was curious what
> others chose and why.
> See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
> curiosity.
> Robin
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Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

[Shaf Patel]

You really didn't need to continue the conversation on another thread,
and nobody is forcing you to switch to UEB despite your claims.

On 11/7/2016 1:30 AM, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Both,
> 
>  
> 
> Despite your statements, I am simply firm about what was said in the
> first place.  Therefore, you cannot tell anyoen what to do and cannot
> force them to go with UEB.
> 
>  
> 
> Shaf, yes, UEB definitely really sucks.  I have found it totally shoddy
> and too many unnecessary characters that are, again, useless eating up
> even more of paper!  I do not follow these shoddy stuff.  I keep all my
> equipment set in computer Braille and set to eight dots.  That is it.
> 
>  
> 
> Flor, you need to understand not all will agree what you said.
> 
>  
> 
> Both:  I did not read all.  I do not care.
> 
>  
> 
> Plezse, this is the bottom line.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

[Shaf Patel]

Flor is correct, eventually you'll have to learn to use UEB if you're a
heavy braille user and want to continue reading new material.

On 11/7/2016 1:10 AM, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Flor,
> 
> Who do you think you are?
> 
> I do not need to go with it.  Yes, BANA is still wrongful.  That stands all 
> against them!  Please, no more of this stuff and move on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Flor Lynch
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?
> 
> You're going to have to put up with and use UEB, though, because it's 
> becoming more and more established as the new standard Braille writing medium 
> in countries all across the Angophone world. Every sigbnificant Braille 
> authority in the English-speaking world has adopted UEB.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Todd Patkus
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?
> 
> Anna,
> 
> Unfortunately, I do not bother the UEB.  I stay with the standard Braille. 
> Yes, BANA fails to realize that what they did is completely wrong.  No more 
> talk on that UEB.  Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, 
> go to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On 
> that page, choose English u.S.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>
>> Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English 
>> Braille contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs 
>> don't seem to be recognized. Any ideas?
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
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Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?

[Shaf Patel]

UEB is the worst thing to happen to braille since the beginning of
braille. It was fine how it was, leave it alone and stop making things
more complicated than they need to be. 
It's a good idea for everybody to learn it though. Unfortunately it's
here to stay.
On 11/7/2016 12:26 AM, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Anna,
> 
> Unfortunately, I do not bother the UEB.  I stay with the standard Braille.  
> Yes, BANA fails to realize that what they did is completely wrong.  No more 
> talk on that UEB.  Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS Braille keyboard and some contractions aren't recognized?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Braille is set to use UEB by default. If you want to use those contractions, 
> go to VoiceOVer Settings, choose Braille, and then Braille Translation. On 
> that page, choose English u.S.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>
>> Using iOS9.3.5 on an Iphone 4S the Braille keyboard, and some English 
>> Braille contractions such as the lower f in to and several othehs don't seem 
>> to be recognized. Any ideas?
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
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Re: apple watch, does it have an on screen keyboard?

[Shaf Patel]

Everything has to be dictated except when a number keypad appears or
autoresponses for messages.

On 11/6/2016 10:27 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Okay, picked up an apple watch series 2 today.  My question is, does 
> everything have to be dictated, or is there a way to have an on screen 
> keyboard appear?  Thanks.
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Re: Watch Cover To Lock

[Shaf Patel]

No you can't. Get a watch if you care about being alerted to
notifications on your wrist. Other than that it's ridiculously
restrictive and overpriced.

On 11/6/2016 9:46 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:
> Can't you turn that off?
> 
> another good reason why I never bothered with one.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shaf Patel" <shafpa...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 1:29 AM
> Subject: Watch Cover To Lock
> 
> 
> Is there a way of disabling that cover to lock feature on the Watch? It
> seems to get triggered by almost anything that passes over the watch
> screen, and this is extremely inconvenient for situations such as
> recording when locking the screen will stop a recording (huge fail, Apple).
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Watch Cover To Lock

[Shaf Patel]

Is there a way of disabling that cover to lock feature on the Watch? It
seems to get triggered by almost anything that passes over the watch
screen, and this is extremely inconvenient for situations such as
recording when locking the screen will stop a recording (huge fail, Apple).

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Re: KNFB Reader Question

[Shaf Patel]

No. KNFBReader is more designed to scan using the camera. I attempted to
scan a 51 page PDF (it was a scanned image) and not everything got
scanned. However, I used a desktop app with fantastic results.

On 11/1/2016 11:12 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
> If I receive a scan of a PDF where the scanner didn't correctly
> paginate, is there a way to tell this to KNFB Reaer? Example: someone
> scans me a 50-page document, but for whatever reason when the scan was
> made into a pdf the facing pages weren't broken correctly so the PDF
> shows as 25 pages. In Kurzweil 1000 for the PC you can tell it this
> and it fixes the problem.
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Re: is there a recording time limit on the voice memos app?

[Shaf Patel]

no, yes, and yes.

On 11/1/2016 9:35 PM, Chris Judd wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>  
> I was wondering, is there a recording time limit on the voice memos
> app?  also, can you record while the screen is locked, and does it still
> record?
> Thanks for any help,
> Chris
>  
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Re: Glass Screen Protecter?

[Shaf Patel]

You can certainly use 3d touch if you're blind, and it's very useful.

On 10/28/2016 3:51 AM, Dianne Phelps wrote:
> Because of a phone, my 6 falling out of a pocket, hitting the floor, I
> had a major phone trauma-drama. Yes, part of my screen shattered in the
> upper left part of the screen with a jagged piece where the speaker for
> the phone is, and nasty little glass splinters under fingers. There  was
> a process whereby I could have had my phone replaced because I pay for
> the insurance. I have been saying for quite some time that the 6 was
> just too big in general for me, and I opted to pay off my contract and
> get the SE which, so far, is terrific. Being totally blind, I am not
> sure I could use three-D touch anyway.
> 
>  
> 
> I did purchase a glass screen protecter  for it, and though I have
> placed the sticky ones myself before, I had my little sister place it
> for me for which I am most thankful. She digs me out of my computer
> foibles around here when she visits. Normally, I am on my own with this
> stuff and, for the most part, we manage just fine. But every once in a
> while, we hit a snag, and if I can’t ultimately solve it myself, I am
> stuck until I can borrow someone’s eyes to help.
> 
>  
> 
> I also updated my Microsoft Surface on my own this morning, and the
> changes threw me off terribly. Thankfully, she was coming down today,
> and when she could tell me what she could see on the screen and where I
> needed to get JAWS to be, it was solved.
> 
>  
> 
> This is why I have kind of a love/hate relationship with all of this stuff.
> 
>  
> 
> Hopefully, Apple will get the bug infestation in IOS 10.1 fixed before
> too long, though I have been mostly all right with it.
> 
>  
> 
> Take care, everyone and have a terrific weekend.
> 
>  
> 
> Dianne and Hibiscus
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Re: voice over questions

[Shaf Patel]

Turning your brightness down to 0 percent will not prevent people from
being able to see your screen. Always use Screen Curtain.

On 10/27/2016 9:22 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:
> Thank you.
> Louise
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Daniel L. Gervais
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voice over questions
> 
> Hi Louise,
> 
> Screen Curtain is a feature that you can toggle with a three finger triple 
> tap.  If you keep your screen brightness at 10% or higher, screen curtain 
> will simply make your screen black so anyone near you can't see your screen.  
> I find that it is simpler just to bring your brightness down to 0% as this 
> will help in saving battery life.
> 
> The second item is toggled by performing a three finger double tap, and does 
> exactly what it says, turns off the speech.  It doesn't turn off VoiceOver, 
> just silences the speech.  You still interact with the device the same way, 
> it's just that you won't hear VoiceOver speak, but you will hear the sounds 
> and clicks.
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> 
> From: Louise Peyton 
> To:   "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
> Date: 2016/10/27 1:52 PM
> Subject:  voice over questions
> 
> Hello:
> When I turn on my iPhone 7, I hear "screen courtain on."  How do I get rid of 
> this message?
> Also, sometimes when maneuvering around the screen, I accidentally hit a icon 
> which says "speech off."  Is the "speech off" feature a part of the main 
> screen?  I am a new iPhone user, so your advice is appreciated.
> Louise
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Re: Update on my Uber Question

[Shaf Patel]

That is actually not Uber's official policy. Some drivers want you to do
that so they can gain another booking fee, most drivers however will
wait for you if you ask, without you having to request another trip. The
latter option was endorsed by an Uber customer service agent.

-Shaf

On 10/27/2016 2:25 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> 
> Hi guys:
> Just thought I’d give an update. Remember when I asked how to handle Uber and 
> multiple errands? Well tonight, I had an emergency, and got to put that in to 
> play. Here is how it works, according to my driver. If you set a destination, 
> and want to make a bunch of stops between your pickup location and the end 
> destination, that is fine. You can keep the trip going. Now, where it gets 
> tricky is if you want him to wait at your end point, and then resume the trip 
> to another place, he ends the trip, and you immediately request another one 
> while with him, and set a second end destination. He can then pick up the 
> trip and you can keep him. If you do not do this, then he has to pickup the 
> next Uber request. He cannot deny it, and wait for you. So, I hope this helps.
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Re: Opinions about glass screen protectors and affect on 3D touch

[Shaf Patel]

There is no reason *to* pay for a screen protector. I've never used one,
never had an issue with my screen.

On 10/25/2016 8:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> I have used a glass screen protector on an iPhone 5s, 6S, and now my 7+.
> With regard to 3D Touch, I don't see any difference. And frankly, I like
> the way the glass feels as opposed to the film ones. My finger seems to
> slide over the screen more smoothly than it does with the film.
> Unfortunately, I don't remember who made the various screen protectors I
> have, but I can tell you that none of them was very expensive, like 10
> bucks or less. I also have a cheap screen protector made out of glass on
> a Google Nexus six. That doesn't have the 3D Touch of course, but the
> screen protector has worked well. I wouldn't worry about it. Find one
> that has good reviews on Amazon that isn't very expensive and go for it.
> There is no reason to pay 30 or $35 for a glass screen protector.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Alan Lemly  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello List,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I've only ever used a film screen protector on the two iPhones I've
>> owned. I'm starting to look at accessories for the iPhone 7 which I'm
>> planning to get at the beginning of February and wanted to get
>> opinions from those who have used glass screen protectors on their
>> iPhones.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I've always considered glass screen protectors to be more than I
>> needed with the care I take with my iPhone and have never been fully
>> convinced that they don't interfere with the touch sensitivity of the
>> iPhone. However, I don't want to make assumptions about such things
>> and would prefer to get comments from those on the list who actually
>> use a glass screen protector with their iDevice. I'm particularly
>> interested in the opinions of those who have them with models 6S and
>> higher that have 3D Touch capability and if they have noticed any
>> affect the glass screen protector has on 3D Touch efficacy.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I see on Amazon a very wide range of prices of glass screen protectors
>> from $6 up and one from Tech21 who makes the case I use which goes for
>> about $35 for the iPhone 7. This is quite a range and I'm having a
>> hard time reconciling the differences which account for such a range.
>> I'd love to hear from anyone who has recommendations about a specific
>> glass screen protector model and about what it costs.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any comments you can provide.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Alan Lemly
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Re: accessible SSH clients

[Shaf Patel]

prompt 2

On 10/24/2016 6:19 PM, Gordon wrote:
> I operate a system called Mytelespace and I'm wondering if there's
> something out there that will let me ssh into the box from my phone? I'm
> not looking to do anything complex, but just running basic commands to
> kill PIDS when the AGI scripts get stuck.
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Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Shaf Patel]

Problem with the AirPods is they cover your ears, which isn't so good
for us blind folks if we're traveling etc. I have the same headset as
you, and I get around a quarter second lag. What I dislike about
Bluetooth headsets is that you can only have one device playing through
the headset at once. I hope they improve that in new Bluetooth technologies.

On 10/24/2016 11:24 AM, Michael Feir wrote:
> I very much enjoy my Trekz Titaniums for travel situations. One thing to 
> really be careful of when choosing headsets is to make certain they use the 
> latest possible Bluetooth version. The Titaniums use 4.1 and I don't 
> experience any lag whatsoever with Voiceover use. Same with my new Aukey 
> speaker. I made damned certain it used 4.1 and there's no lag. My Logitech UE 
> Boomb sits unused despite being durrable, having a great super battery and 
> sounding great due to the annoying lag. It uses version 4 of Bluetooth. I 
> didn't think to check before purchase.
> 
> From what I hear, bluetooth version 5 is going to be much better. It might 
> finally due away with lag difficulties with Bluetooth devices which use it. 
> However, it may be a while before accessories come out making use of it. I'm 
> interested to see how this W1 chip performs from Apple. Hopefully, it 
> addresses lag and connectivity issues. I'm hoping to either get a pair of 
> Airpods or wait for a third-party company to come up with a headset using the 
> W1 technology. 
> 
> Michael Feir
> 
> Twitter: mfeir
> Skype: michael-feir
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Shaf Patel <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the new model is fantastic. I have it paired to my Watch and Phone
>> (it sucks because it's bluetooth), but it's really useful.
>>
>>> On 10/24/2016 8:39 AM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:
>>> Hi Paul, I use the After Shox and really like them.  I understand the new
>>> titanium model is even lighter, and more durable as well.
>>>
>>> Have a good one:
>>> John
>>>
>>> 
>>> This Man Cured His Nasty Nail Fungus in 10 Minutes
>>> adclk.co
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/580dc358d5a6d43582e76st02duc
>>>
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Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Shaf Patel]

Yes, the new model is fantastic. I have it paired to my Watch and Phone
(it sucks because it's bluetooth), but it's really useful.

On 10/24/2016 8:39 AM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:
> Hi Paul, I use the After Shox and really like them.  I understand the new
> titanium model is even lighter, and more durable as well.
> 
> Have a good one:
> John
> 
> 
> This Man Cured His Nasty Nail Fungus in 10 Minutes
> adclk.co
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/580dc358d5a6d43582e76st02duc
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Re: question about the whatsapp

[Shaf Patel]

Short answer: You can't.

On 10/21/2016 7:05 PM, Afik Sofir wrote:
>  
> 
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> I have question about the whatsapp.
> 
>  
> 
> How can I downgrade the latest version of the app to the purvious version?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> I have incounted a bug with the voice messaging/.
> 
>  
> 
> Afik.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> בברכה,
> 
> אפיק סופיר
> 
> רכז במרכז לחיים עצמאיים ברשת
> 
> Makshivim Net
> 
> a...@makshivim.net 
> 
> 0505782208
> 
>  
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Re: Apple Watch may not be as scarce as Apple wants you to think

[Shaf Patel]

What?

On 10/21/2016 5:46 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
> Apple products are designed by under nourished vegans and vegetarians
> in California.  Those at the top of the company can’t imagine the
> needs of big, muscular men.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> On 10/20/16, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> They are overcharging on certain products/accessories. I don't necessarily
>> think they do so on the iPhones. Yes, they are expensive and could be less
>> so, but the recently recalled and now completely discontinued exploding
>> Samsung Note 7 was just as expensive. I can only guess at the uproar had
>> this happened to Apple's iPhone 7 or 7 Plus, there would have been no end to
>> the press slamming Apple.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Shaf Patel
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch may not be as scarce as Apple wants you to think
>>
>> Apple is a complete ripoff, period. If it wasn't for better accessibility
>> I'd have switched to Android a long time ago.
>>
>> On 10/20/2016 7:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I finally ordered my 38mm stainless steel Apple Watch SERIES 2 on
>>> Monday using the website since I simply could not figure out how to
>>> switch from Store Pick Up to having it shipped to me with the Apple
>>> Store app. When I ordered it the website said that deliverytime is 3
>>> to 4 weeks. I resigned myself to the wait only to get a text message
>>> the next day that my Apple Watch has shipped from China and I will get
>>> it next Wednesday, October 26.
>>>
>>> This ticked me off a bit since I have been in Calgary for over a week
>>> and had I ordered it for store pick-up last week right away it would
>>> probably be here by now and I could have picked it up in Calgary where
>>> I would have paid 7% less tax compared to my home province of British
>>> Columbia and this would have saved me approx. $45.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also must say that any band Apple sells is a total and complete
>>> rip-off. I really wanted the Milanese Loop stainless steel band, but
>>> at a $150 CAD premium over the default configuration with the Sports
>>> Band I just can’t justify this and I will order a third-party Milanese
>>> Loop band on Amazon or other website. I think it’s even more of a
>>> rip-off that you can’t even select the larger band that comes with the
>>> 42mm watch when you buy the 38mm watch. Once you select the size the
>>> band is selected and can’t be changed. I tried on a 38mm watch at the
>>> Apple Store and while my wrists aren’t huge, the smaller band barely
>>> is big enough and even at it’s widest setting is pretty tight. Why on
>>> earth doesn’t Apple just let you pick the watch you want in whichever
>>> material, colour and size and then let you add the size band you need.
>>> I’m not a Mac user, but I’m quite a fan of the iPhone, Apple TV and I
>>> will probably love the watch, but this stinginess from the richest
>>> company in the world is enough to make even an Apple fan get a bit mad.
>>>
>>> If you think about how the most expensive band Apple offers is $599
>>> Canadian which is more than what the Apple Watch Sport costs you
>>> really just have to shake your head.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>
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Re: Apple Watch may not be as scarce as Apple wants you to think

[Shaf Patel]

Apple is a complete ripoff, period. If it wasn't for better
accessibility I'd have switched to Android a long time ago.

On 10/20/2016 7:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
>  
> 
> I finally ordered my 38mm stainless steel Apple Watch SERIES 2 on Monday
> using the website since I simply could not figure out how to switch from
> Store Pick Up to having it shipped to me with the Apple Store app. When
> I ordered it the website said that deliverytime is 3 to 4 weeks. I
> resigned myself to the wait only to get a text message the next day that
> my Apple Watch has shipped from China and I will get it next Wednesday,
> October 26.
> 
> This ticked me off a bit since I have been in Calgary for over a week
> and had I ordered it for store pick-up last week right away it would
> probably be here by now and I could have picked it up in Calgary where I
> would have paid 7% less tax compared to my home province of British
> Columbia and this would have saved me approx. $45.
> 
>  
> 
> I also must say that any band Apple sells is a total and complete
> rip-off. I really wanted the Milanese Loop stainless steel band, but at
> a $150 CAD premium over the default configuration with the Sports Band I
> just can’t justify this and I will order a third-party Milanese Loop
> band on Amazon or other website. I think it’s even more of a rip-off
> that you can’t even select the larger band that comes with the 42mm
> watch when you buy the 38mm watch. Once you select the size the band is
> selected and can’t be changed. I tried on a 38mm watch at the Apple
> Store and while my wrists aren’t huge, the smaller band barely is big
> enough and even at it’s widest setting is pretty tight. Why on earth
> doesn’t Apple just let you pick the watch you want in whichever
> material, colour and size and then let you add the size band you need.
> I’m not a Mac user, but I’m quite a fan of the iPhone, Apple TV and I
> will probably love the watch, but this stinginess from the richest
> company in the world is enough to make even an Apple fan get a bit mad.
> 
> If you think about how the most expensive band Apple offers is $599
> Canadian which is more than what the Apple Watch Sport costs you really
> just have to shake your head.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
>  
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Re: iMessage standard SMS question

[Shaf Patel]

Try turning off iMessages and see if that helps. She can also send her
messages to you as text messages by holding on the message and selecting
'send as text message'

On 10/17/2016 5:16 AM, Gordon wrote:
> So both me and my GF have iPhones. I temporarily switched to my Android
> phone for a while. I can send her text messages and she gets them just
> fine. However I don't get her text messages because it sends them as
> iMessages. We tried everything, but it wont go back to regular sms
> messages for me. Is there a way to tell the system that I'm not
> currently using my iPhone and that it needs to see me as an sms instead
> of iMessage?
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Re: Apple Watch Voiceover voices

[Shaf Patel]

Yes, you can change the VoiceOver voice. Do not give out misinformation.
When you set up Apple Watch for the first time, you need to select the
watch region. Depending on the country selected, you'll get that
specific voice, so for example if you want the Australian voice you'll
select Australia, UK for Daniel, US for Samantha etc. There is no other
way of changing the voice, and I hope Apple start listening to their
users requests and implement that feature.

-Shaf

On 10/16/2016 6:09 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
> 
> No, you can not change the voice over voice.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Jeff Clark <jeffclark...@comcast.net
> <mailto:jeffclark...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just picked up Apple Watch series 1 and learning to work with it.
>> Does anyone know if you can change the Voiceover voice? There are no
>> speech settings that I can find to do so.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
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