RE: Face ID With Banking App

2023-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, if you can still touch the phone with your tongue it's way too close 藍

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID With Banking App

Does face ID work more reliably when  you’re unlocking your phone or is it just 
with these apps? I found that I was holding the phone too close to my face when 
using face ID. Once I got the hang of holding it the right distance my success 
rate when way up.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID With Banking App

I did allow logging in with face ID on various apps like keeper and wells 
fargo. the problem is that it almost never works and i have to enter my login 
and password. is there anything i can do to get more consistent results? Touch 
ID didn't work all the time but it was a lot more reliable than this.
Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

On Oct 2, 2023, at 5:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Once you are signed in with your password on the iPhone 15 Pro find the 
Settings in the app and you will find somewhere an option to enable Face Id.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Face ID With Banking App

Hi, Group.
I log in  my Bank of Montreal app with face id with iPhone12 just fine, 
however, with 15Pro, the app does not present face id option and I have to log 
in with password.
If someone is using Bank of Montreal app with face id with 15Pro, I would like 
to know how can I use FI, please?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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RE: Face ID With Banking App

2023-10-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Does face ID work more reliably when  you’re unlocking your phone or is it just 
with these apps? I found that I was holding the phone too close to my face when 
using face ID. Once I got the hang of holding it the right distance my success 
rate when way up.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID With Banking App

I did allow logging in with face ID on various apps like keeper and wells 
fargo. the problem is that it almost never works and i have to enter my login 
and password. is there anything i can do to get more consistent results? Touch 
ID didn't work all the time but it was a lot more reliable than this.
Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen


On Oct 2, 2023, at 5:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Once you are signed in with your password on the iPhone 15 Pro find the 
Settings in the app and you will find somewhere an option to enable Face Id.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Face ID With Banking App

Hi, Group.
I log in  my Bank of Montreal app with face id with iPhone12 just fine, 
however, with 15Pro, the app does not present face id option and I have to log 
in with password.
If someone is using Bank of Montreal app with face id with 15Pro, I would like 
to know how can I use FI, please?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Re: Face ID With Banking App

2023-10-03 Thread Robert Doc Wright
bring the middle of the phone to your nose and pull away to arm's length.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kimberly
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 9:26 AM
  Subject: Re: Face ID With Banking App


  I did allow logging in with face ID on various apps like keeper and wells 
fargo. the problem is that it almost never works and i have to enter my 
login and password. is there anything i can do to get more consistent 
results? Touch ID didn't work all the time but it was a lot more reliable 
than this.

  Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
  ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books 
can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen


On Oct 2, 2023, at 5:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



Once you are signed in with your password on the iPhone 15 Pro find the 
Settings in the app and you will find somewhere an option to enable Face Id.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID With Banking App



Hi, Group.

I log in  my Bank of Montreal app with face id with iPhone12 just fine, 
however, with 15Pro, the app does not present face id option and I have to 
log in with password.

If someone is using Bank of Montreal app with face id with 15Pro, I 
would like to know how can I use FI, please?

Thanks!

Thanks!

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Re: Face ID With Banking App

2023-10-03 Thread Kimberly
I did allow logging in with face ID on various apps like keeper and wells fargo. the problem is that it almost never works and i have to enter my login and password. is there anything i can do to get more consistent results? Touch ID didn't work all the time but it was a lot more reliable than this. Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can be.“ Viet Thanh NguyenOn Oct 2, 2023, at 5:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Once you are signed in with your password on the iPhone 15 Pro find the Settings in the app and you will find somewhere an option to enable Face Id.
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID With Banking App


 
Hi, Group.
I log in  my Bank of Montreal app with face id with iPhone12 just fine, however, with 15Pro, the app does not present face id option and I have to log in with password.
If someone is using Bank of Montreal app with face id with 15Pro, I would like to know how can I use FI, please?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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RE: Face ID With Banking App

2023-10-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Once you are signed in with your password on the iPhone 15 Pro find the 
Settings in the app and you will find somewhere an option to enable Face Id.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID With Banking App

Hi, Group.
I log in  my Bank of Montreal app with face id with iPhone12 just fine, 
however, with 15Pro, the app does not present face id option and I have to log 
in with password.
If someone is using Bank of Montreal app with face id with 15Pro, I would like 
to know how can I use FI, please?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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RE: Specifics About Face ID

2023-09-30 Thread Richard Turner
I'd call Apple Accessibility.  I think you have to have one successful setup, 
then you can add an alternate view.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of matthew 
dyer
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Specifics About Face ID

I have troublee getting Face ID to work on my iPhone 15.  It tells me that 
glasses not detected.  How do I try to use a different view.  I saw n9o way to 
change it derring setup.  Thanks.

Matthew



> On Sep 29, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You can do it later, if you want to. 
> 
> I am totally blind, and mine recognizes me with or without glasses. 
> 
> As for a beard, old Grannie me can't help you there. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> portillo@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Specifics About Face ID
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I’ve seen talk before on this list about advantages and disadvantages of 
> using Face ID. Sieghard recently made a very good point about the ease and 
> convenience of Face ID as opposed to needing to put in a code.
> 
> Today is the day I update phones to a 15 pro, and I’m willing to do the Face 
> ID, but I’d like to ask for some specifics rather than opinions.
> 
> Here goes.
> 
> First, I generally wear sunglasses when I’m out. Of course, if I’m just home 
> and such, then I don’t. Will Face ID recognize me with or without sunglasses, 
> or will I only be able to use Face ID a certain way?
> 
> Second, I have a beard. Will it recognize me with it either long or trimmed? 
> 
> I guess I basically want to know what it will recognize regarding my facial 
> features, and how I should best do my Face ID for the best possible 
> recognition. 
> 
> Since I am totally blind, is this something I can do on my own, or is it best 
> to have sighted assistance? 
> 
> Oh, finally, is Face ID something I can do later on, once the rest of my 
> phone is set up, or something I need to do as I set my phone up?
> 
> My apology for my specific questions, but I want to get this as best as I can.
> 
> 
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RE: Specifics About Face ID

2023-09-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
When I first set up face ID, I had hair, a beard and no glasses. Since then, I 
shaved my head, went clean shaven for a few weeks and now have a goatee. I've 
also used my iPhone with and without sun glasses. I've basically never had any 
problems with face ID. I was holding the phone a bit too close to my face early 
on, so I was getting a few more failures then I liked, but now the only time I 
have any trouble is when I'm a bit to lazy when unlocking my phone, like when I 
forgot to point it at my face.

As others have said, you can set up an alternative face and do all of this 
later. I'm totally blind, and I did all of this myself when I got my iPhone. 
Another nice thing about face ID is that you can also configure a lot of apps 
to use face ID, so no need to use a user ID and password to log in.

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Subject: RE: Specifics About Face ID

Hi Jim,

There is an option to set an alternate view, so I would do it first without the 
sunglasses.
Then, if it doesn't recognize you with the sunglasses, try setting the 
alternate view with them.
The beard trimming won't matter.  I have a beard and it always works, unless I 
reboot the phone, then it requires the passcode.

I'm totally blind, but had sight until I was 12, but I set it up on my own.

The key is holding the phone about 6 to 12 inches from your face, probably more 
like 8 to 12.
I'd start with your nose touching the center of the screen, then pull it back 
keeping it straight up and down.

Once you start the Face ID, you will be given directions by VoiceOver to look 
up toward 12 o'clock, then rotate clockwise in a circle, slowly.
It will give you status reports as you go.
You will likely have to do it twice.
So long as the phone doesn't move, it should work.

You can set it up any time.



Richard, USA.
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Greetings,
I've seen talk before on this list about advantages and disadvantages of using 
Face ID. Sieghard recently made a very good point about the ease and 
convenience of Face ID as opposed to needing to put in a code.
Today is the day I update phones to a 15 pro, and I'm willing to do the Face 
ID, but I'd like to ask for some specifics rather than opinions.
Here goes.
First, I generally wear sunglasses when I'm out. Of course, if I'm just home 
and such, then I don't. Will Face ID recognize me with or without sunglasses, 
or will I only be able to use Face ID a certain way?
Second, I have a beard. Will it recognize me with it either long or trimmed?
I guess I basically want to know what it will recognize regarding my facial 
features, and how I should best do my Face ID for the best possible recognition.
Since I am totally blind, is this something I can do on my own, or is it best 
to have sighted assistance?
Oh, finally, is Face ID something I can do later on, once the rest of my phone 
is set up, or something I need to do as I set my phone up?
My apology for my specific questions, but I want to get this as best as I can.

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Re: Specifics About Face ID

2023-09-29 Thread matthew dyer
I have troublee getting Face ID to work on my iPhone 15.  It tells me that 
glasses not detected.  How do I try to use a different view.  I saw n9o way to 
change it derring setup.  Thanks.

Matthew



> On Sep 29, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You can do it later, if you want to. 
> 
> I am totally blind, and mine recognizes me with or without glasses. 
> 
> As for a beard, old Grannie me can't help you there. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> portillo@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Specifics About Face ID
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I’ve seen talk before on this list about advantages and disadvantages of 
> using Face ID. Sieghard recently made a very good point about the ease and 
> convenience of Face ID as opposed to needing to put in a code.
> 
> Today is the day I update phones to a 15 pro, and I’m willing to do the Face 
> ID, but I’d like to ask for some specifics rather than opinions.
> 
> Here goes.
> 
> First, I generally wear sunglasses when I’m out. Of course, if I’m just home 
> and such, then I don’t. Will Face ID recognize me with or without sunglasses, 
> or will I only be able to use Face ID a certain way?
> 
> Second, I have a beard. Will it recognize me with it either long or trimmed? 
> 
> I guess I basically want to know what it will recognize regarding my facial 
> features, and how I should best do my Face ID for the best possible 
> recognition. 
> 
> Since I am totally blind, is this something I can do on my own, or is it best 
> to have sighted assistance? 
> 
> Oh, finally, is Face ID something I can do later on, once the rest of my 
> phone is set up, or something I need to do as I set my phone up?
> 
> My apology for my specific questions, but I want to get this as best as I can.
> 
> 
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RE: Specifics About Face ID

2023-09-29 Thread Carolyn Arnold
You can do it later, if you want to. 

I am totally blind, and mine recognizes me with or without glasses. 

As for a beard, old Grannie me can't help you there. 

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Subject: Specifics About Face ID

Greetings,

I’ve seen talk before on this list about advantages and disadvantages of using 
Face ID. Sieghard recently made a very good point about the ease and 
convenience of Face ID as opposed to needing to put in a code.

Today is the day I update phones to a 15 pro, and I’m willing to do the Face 
ID, but I’d like to ask for some specifics rather than opinions.

Here goes.

First, I generally wear sunglasses when I’m out. Of course, if I’m just home 
and such, then I don’t. Will Face ID recognize me with or without sunglasses, 
or will I only be able to use Face ID a certain way?

Second, I have a beard. Will it recognize me with it either long or trimmed? 

I guess I basically want to know what it will recognize regarding my facial 
features, and how I should best do my Face ID for the best possible 
recognition. 

Since I am totally blind, is this something I can do on my own, or is it best 
to have sighted assistance? 

Oh, finally, is Face ID something I can do later on, once the rest of my phone 
is set up, or something I need to do as I set my phone up?

My apology for my specific questions, but I want to get this as best as I can.

 

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RE: Specifics About Face ID

2023-09-29 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Jim,

 

There is an option to set an alternate view, so I would do it first without the 
sunglasses.

Then, if it doesn't recognize you with the sunglasses, try setting the 
alternate view with them.

The beard trimming won't matter.  I have a beard and it always works, unless I 
reboot the phone, then it requires the passcode.

 

I'm totally blind, but had sight until I was 12, but I set it up on my own.

 

The key is holding the phone about 6 to 12 inches from your face, probably more 
like 8 to 12.

I'd start with your nose touching the center of the screen, then pull it back 
keeping it straight up and down.

 

Once you start the Face ID, you will be given directions by VoiceOver to look 
up toward 12 o'clock, then rotate clockwise in a circle, slowly.

It will give you status reports as you go.

You will likely have to do it twice.

So long as the phone doesn't move, it should work.

 

You can set it up any time.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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Subject: Specifics About Face ID

 

Greetings,

I’ve seen talk before on this list about advantages and disadvantages of using 
Face ID. Sieghard recently made a very good point about the ease and 
convenience of Face ID as opposed to needing to put in a code.

Today is the day I update phones to a 15 pro, and I’m willing to do the Face 
ID, but I’d like to ask for some specifics rather than opinions.

Here goes.

First, I generally wear sunglasses when I’m out. Of course, if I’m just home 
and such, then I don’t. Will Face ID recognize me with or without sunglasses, 
or will I only be able to use Face ID a certain way?

Second, I have a beard. Will it recognize me with it either long or trimmed? 

I guess I basically want to know what it will recognize regarding my facial 
features, and how I should best do my Face ID for the best possible 
recognition. 

Since I am totally blind, is this something I can do on my own, or is it best 
to have sighted assistance? 

Oh, finally, is Face ID something I can do later on, once the rest of my phone 
is set up, or something I need to do as I set my phone up?

My apology for my specific questions, but I want to get this as best as I can.

 

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Specifics About Face ID

2023-09-29 Thread portillo.jim
Greetings,

I've seen talk before on this list about advantages and disadvantages of
using Face ID. Sieghard recently made a very good point about the ease and
convenience of Face ID as opposed to needing to put in a code.

Today is the day I update phones to a 15 pro, and I'm willing to do the Face
ID, but I'd like to ask for some specifics rather than opinions.

Here goes.

First, I generally wear sunglasses when I'm out. Of course, if I'm just home
and such, then I don't. Will Face ID recognize me with or without
sunglasses, or will I only be able to use Face ID a certain way?

Second, I have a beard. Will it recognize me with it either long or trimmed?


I guess I basically want to know what it will recognize regarding my facial
features, and how I should best do my Face ID for the best possible
recognition. 

Since I am totally blind, is this something I can do on my own, or is it
best to have sighted assistance? 

Oh, finally, is Face ID something I can do later on, once the rest of my
phone is set up, or something I need to do as I set my phone up?

My apology for my specific questions, but I want to get this as best as I
can.

 

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Face ID With Banking App

2023-09-29 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Hi, Group.
I log in  my Bank of Montreal app with face id with iPhone12 just fine, 
however, with 15Pro, the app does not present face id option and I have to log 
in with password.
If someone is using Bank of Montreal app with face id with 15Pro, I would like 
to know how can I use FI, please?
Thanks!
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RE: Face ID again for 15Pro?

2023-09-26 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Hi, Group.
I have done it successfully and done it in first attempt.
Thanks!

From: Mohammad Fazil
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Subject: Face ID again for 15Pro?

Hi, Group.
Two years ago, I got very useful tips for setting face ID for iPhone12 from the 
group.
In two years I forgot how I setup that. May I have a few tips again for 15Pro, 
please?
Thanks!

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Face ID again for 15Pro?

2023-09-26 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Hi, Group.
Two years ago, I got very useful tips for setting face ID for iPhone12 from the 
group.
In two years I forgot how I setup that. May I have a few tips again for 15Pro, 
please?
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RE: face ID on iphone 14

2023-08-15 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I have a 14 Pro and had facial ID on my 11 and have it on my 14 Pro. I am 
totally blind and set up both of mine. 

I went into Settings and down in their past Accessibility, keep flicking, and 
you'll come to Facial ID. Go into it, and it will prompt you. It will tell you 
to move your head this way and that way. 

When I got my 11, the guy at Wal-Mart couldn't get it, but I did, and so, when 
I got this one from AT, I didn't even suggested that we do it there, just 
waited until I was at home and did it myself. 

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Hi,

I purchased an iphone 14 a week ago.

 

How do I setup face id with voiceOver on? Is it useable with VoiceOver?

 

Note: I'm using my right hand, I have CP in my left hand.

 

Thanks so much,

 

 

 

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face ID on iphone 14

2023-08-15 Thread Afik Souffir

Hi,
I purchased an iphone 14 a week ago.

How do I setup face id with voiceOver on? Is it useable with VoiceOver?

Note: I'm using my right hand, I have CP in my left hand.

Thanks so much,



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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carolyn
Same here, Joshua. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

When I set up face ID on my iPhone 13 pro max, it was quite easy.
Voice over was great at telling me if the phone was to close to my face or not 
or to turn my head.

On 3/3/23, Carla  wrote:
> I’ve got it fixed thanks.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how 
> far away do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said 
> somebody helped you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set 
> itup or did a sighted person do it without Voiceover? If so you should 
> probably first turn off the attention aware feature. Apart from that 
> it would probably be easier if a sighted person can help you trouble 
> shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too close or maybe 
> you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your face 
> properly.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Carla
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> Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  
> I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and 
> closing apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone 
> accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone 
> have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go 
> back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the power button rather 
> than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the stereo sound 
> when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
When I set up face ID on my iPhone 13 pro max, it was quite easy.
Voice over was great at telling me if the phone was to close to my
face or not or to turn my head.

On 3/3/23, Carla  wrote:
> I’ve got it fixed thanks.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far
> away do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody
> helped you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a
> sighted person do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn
> off the attention aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier
> if a sighted person can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just
> hold the phone too close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the
> camera doesn't see your face properly.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Carla
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
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> Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I
> can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing
> apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID
> which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to
> make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even
> learning to use the power button rather than using a home button.  I love
> the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
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> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carla
I’ve got it fixed thanks.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question
 
You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far away 
do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody helped 
you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a sighted person 
do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn off the attention 
aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier if a sighted person 
can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too 
close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your 
face properly.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question
 
I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Keith, if Voiceover is on when you set up Face Id this is automatically turned 
off.


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Kramlinger
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith



On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far away 
do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody helped 
you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a sighted person 
do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn off the attention 
aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier if a sighted person 
can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too 
close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your 
face properly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla

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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carla
Thank you.  I will check for that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

I am totally blind and have set up facial ID on an 11 and a 14 Pro. I had no 
problems. Just extend your arm about a foot from your face. Hold your phone to 
the level of it being centered with your face. You will be instructed turn face 
to right, left, up down, I can't remember, but just keep doing what it says to 
do, and it will get your face in there. Turn off Attention Mode if it is on, 
which is located in the Voiceover settings. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 11:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
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The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carolyn
I am totally blind and have set up facial ID on an 11 and a 14 Pro. I had no 
problems. Just extend your arm about a foot from your face. Hold your phone to 
the level of it being centered with your face. You will be instructed turn face 
to right, left, up down, I can't remember, but just keep doing what it says to 
do, and it will get your face in there. Turn off Attention Mode if it is on, 
which is located in the Voiceover settings. 

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Carla
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Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
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stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carla
I think I'm getting it.  I like my fingerprint better but I love this phone!

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Carla.  It will take a bit of practice to get face ID wright.  It isn't 
something you can learn in 15 or 20 minutes.  I don't even think much about 
face ID THESE days.  Good luck.

On 3/3/23, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
> hi Carla,
> You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off 
> the require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not 
> require your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I 
> believe, with visual difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
> Best, Keith
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:
>
> 
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  
> I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and 
> closing apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone 
> accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone 
> have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go 
> back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the power button rather 
> than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the stereo sound 
> when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
>
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Star Gazer
Yes, with 
attention aware, you have to make eye contact with the screen v. just look in 
the direction. Apple should probably rephrase this feature to mean eye contact 
v. attention since they are different things. 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 1:30 AM
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hi Carla,

You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.

Best, Keith

 





On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Carla

 

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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Kathy Blackburn
Perhaps Siri made a dictation error. The correct name of the feature referenced below should be "require attention."
Kathy Blackburn
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On Mar 3, 2023 12:29 AM, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:

hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual difficulties
 turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith



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I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday. 
I went to this phone from the SE3.  
I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc. 
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up. 
Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3. 
I’m even learning to use the power button rather than using a home button. 
I love the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music. 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 


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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-02 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Carla.  It will take a bit of practice to get face ID wright.  It
isn't something you can learn in 15 or 20 minutes.  I don't even think
much about face ID THESE days.  Good luck.

On 3/3/23, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
> hi Carla,
> You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the
> require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require
> your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with
> visual difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
> Best, Keith
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:
>
> 
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I
> can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing
> apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID
> which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to
> make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even
> learning to use the power button rather than using a home button.  I love
> the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-02 Thread Keith Kramlinger
hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith


On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:


I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
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power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla


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Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-02 Thread Carla
I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I
can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing
apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID
which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to
make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I'm even
learning to use the power button rather than using a home button.  I love
the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
 
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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Janet,

I hope you didn't think I was being patronizing or trying to offend you, but 
obviously I don't know you and your history of vision loss/being sighted most 
of your life. Anyways, it is of course not impossible that something could be 
wrong with your camera, only a technician at an Apple Store could probably tell 
you that. All I can say that I have set up Face Id on my iPhone 11 more than 
once and recently on my iPhone 13 Pro and the phone had certainly no issues 
seeing me and recording the head movements it asked me to do with it being held 
in front of me. I should mention that I don't hold the phone at head height, it 
feel not natural to me so I hold it slightly angled up/back pointing at my 
face/head and at the same time looking down on a slight angle; I would say I 
probably hold the phone at chest heifght.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hello Sieghard,
I have no problem with sense of directions.  I don’t have to make an effort to 
look at people including the phone, as that still comes natural to me, maybe 
because I was sighted most of my live so I don’t have any problem with looking 
directly at  anything.  As people don’t even believe I’m Blind including some 
of my own family members.  There has been several times I’ve had to show 
verification to prove I am really Blind.  But, in either case that is how it is 
with me.  I stand completely straight, I walk completely straight, my head is 
completely straight up.My eyes are clear and wide open as well.  The rep 
also had a hard time seeing my face, as he said that is the way the Camera is 
seeing me.  Matter of fact, all he could see was the left side of my face just 
a little.  He kept saying it is to dark, even though, I had the lights on.   I 
was outside earlier trying to set up the Face Id, but I couldn’t set up Face ID 
because I was holding the phone in front of my face.  I set up Face ID at least 
three times with the same phone, and the same body and head, with no problem.  
A person would have to have a complete disfigured body to set up the phone in 
the way I had to sit in order to enable Face ID.  The main problem was the way 
the phone was seeing me, and that was in a  extremely unusual way.  Now, could 
the main problem be because of the way the phone seen me, in which this makes 
me wonder just how the phone does see me as far as Security, I don’t know. Is 
there something wrong with my Camera, I don’t know.  Could it be because I had 
my Screen Curtain on at the same time I was trying to enable Face Id, I don’t 
know, could have something accidentally gone wrong during the update, I don’t 
know.  Ok now Sieghard, sit in a chair, tilt your head to the left, and look 
down as if you are trying to look at your left hip, with you holding the phone 
down very close to your left thigh.  Smile!  In any case, I do have Face ID 
working.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Janet, not everybody has the same sense of direction and for some blind people 
it is really difficult o look at something, to walk in a reasonably straight 
line and so on.
I think maybe the Apple rep had some experience with this and found that asking 
people to hold the phone this way and looking down was the best way to get them 
to look the right way.
I just set up my iPhone 13 Pro last week and for me it was fine to  hold the 
camera more or less at arms length, of course I did have my elbow bent a bit so 
the phone wasn't too far away, but this worked fine for me. I have been blind 
for a long time now, I am 55 and lost my sight in an accident when I was 16, 
but I try to make an effort to look at people when I speak to them and I have 
had conversations with customers at my store who didn't know me and who never 
realized for the first minute or two that I couldn't see.
It's good Apple Accessibility could help and hopefully you feel a bit less mad 
at iOS 16.2 since it obviously turned out that it was not the culpret 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not t

RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Janet,

Once again there is another thing you can try and that is to simply play some 
radio station from Apple Music or ask Siri to play whatever music you like and 
then see if the music also stops. If it does not then obviously there might be 
something happening with your playlists.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Feliciano,

I’m  sorry to say, but my Bluetooth issue came back.  Although, I am finding my 
Bluetooth Bose Speaker stops playing only when I am listening to certain Apple 
play list, but not all play list that I have created some years ago.  I’ve 
listened to Apple Music with my Bose Speaker, my Sony 400 Ear Buds, my Power 
Beats Ear Pods, the phone by its self, meaning without any Speakers, and the 
Apple Music still stops playing.  But, like I said only with certain play lists 
 ,  I listen to.  I find this quite unusual as well.  Thank you for your 
encouragement it is greatly appreciated.I think I might need to do 
something to the play lists, just not for sure yet.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet
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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-11 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Janet,
Life teaches ya’ a little. I have experienced this when I use to use iTunes. 
Your best bet is to go through the playlist on your down time and delete from 
there rather than when you listen to music..

Goodluck,

Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 8:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Feliciano,
Now, you could very well be on to something here.  I’ve heard an error message 
several times when playing one of my play list.  I’ve also heard messages about 
this song is no longer available in your country, and then I get an ok button.  
So, if I’m not in the room and hear that message, the song just won’t play, and 
I would think the music stopped.  Thank you for this, as I will need to start 
paying attention more.

Janet
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Janet,
There are occasions where artists remove songs from a streaming service. It 
could be a case here with your said playlists. Typically, they are marked as 
error when going through the playlist. You may want to review the playlist and 
delete the song and see if you experience the issues you are having. 
Additionally, it could be a song that you potentially ripped (put onto your 
computer) that can be found via apple music library section. Same can be done 
where you can delete it if there is an error.

Worth a shot here.
Hope that helps.

Feliciano

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Feliciano,

I’m  sorry to say, but my Bluetooth issue came back.  Although, I am finding my 
Bluetooth Bose Speaker stops playing only when I am listening to certain Apple 
play list, but not all play list that I have created some years ago.  I’ve 
listened to Apple Music with my Bose Speaker, my Sony 400 Ear Buds, my Power 
Beats Ear Pods, the phone by its self, meaning without any Speakers, and the 
Apple Music still stops playing.  But, like I said only with certain play lists 
 ,  I listen to.  I find this quite unusual as well.  Thank you for your 
encouragement it is greatly appreciated.I think I might need to do 
something to the play lists, just not for sure yet.

Janet
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross 
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Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time. 

RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-11 Thread janet gross
Feliciano,
Now, you could very well be on to something here.  I’ve heard an error message 
several times when playing one of my play list.  I’ve also heard messages about 
this song is no longer available in your country, and then I get an ok button.  
So, if I’m not in the room and hear that message, the song just won’t play, and 
I would think the music stopped.  Thank you for this, as I will need to start 
paying attention more.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Janet,
There are occasions where artists remove songs from a streaming service. It 
could be a case here with your said playlists. Typically, they are marked as 
error when going through the playlist. You may want to review the playlist and 
delete the song and see if you experience the issues you are having. 
Additionally, it could be a song that you potentially ripped (put onto your 
computer) that can be found via apple music library section. Same can be done 
where you can delete it if there is an error.

Worth a shot here.
Hope that helps.

Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Feliciano,

I’m  sorry to say, but my Bluetooth issue came back.  Although, I am finding my 
Bluetooth Bose Speaker stops playing only when I am listening to certain Apple 
play list, but not all play list that I have created some years ago.  I’ve 
listened to Apple Music with my Bose Speaker, my Sony 400 Ear Buds, my Power 
Beats Ear Pods, the phone by its self, meaning without any Speakers, and the 
Apple Music still stops playing.  But, like I said only with certain play lists 
 ,  I listen to.  I find this quite unusual as well.  Thank you for your 
encouragement it is greatly appreciated.I think I might need to do 
something to the play lists, just not for sure yet.

Janet
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then t

RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-11 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi Janet,
There are occasions where artists remove songs from a streaming service. It 
could be a case here with your said playlists. Typically, they are marked as 
error when going through the playlist. You may want to review the playlist and 
delete the song and see if you experience the issues you are having. 
Additionally, it could be a song that you potentially ripped (put onto your 
computer) that can be found via apple music library section. Same can be done 
where you can delete it if there is an error.

Worth a shot here.
Hope that helps.

Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Feliciano,

I’m  sorry to say, but my Bluetooth issue came back.  Although, I am finding my 
Bluetooth Bose Speaker stops playing only when I am listening to certain Apple 
play list, but not all play list that I have created some years ago.  I’ve 
listened to Apple Music with my Bose Speaker, my Sony 400 Ear Buds, my Power 
Beats Ear Pods, the phone by its self, meaning without any Speakers, and the 
Apple Music still stops playing.  But, like I said only with certain play lists 
 ,  I listen to.  I find this quite unusual as well.  Thank you for your 
encouragement it is greatly appreciated.I think I might need to do 
something to the play lists, just not for sure yet.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.
Feliciano
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-11 Thread janet gross
Hello Sieghard,
I have no problem with sense of directions.  I don’t have to make an effort to 
look at people including the phone, as that still comes natural to me, maybe 
because I was sighted most of my live so I don’t have any problem with looking 
directly at  anything.  As people don’t even believe I’m Blind including some 
of my own family members.  There has been several times I’ve had to show 
verification to prove I am really Blind.  But, in either case that is how it is 
with me.  I stand completely straight, I walk completely straight, my head is 
completely straight up.My eyes are clear and wide open as well.  The rep 
also had a hard time seeing my face, as he said that is the way the Camera is 
seeing me.  Matter of fact, all he could see was the left side of my face just 
a little.  He kept saying it is to dark, even though, I had the lights on.   I 
was outside earlier trying to set up the Face Id, but I couldn’t set up Face ID 
because I was holding the phone in front of my face.  I set up Face ID at least 
three times with the same phone, and the same body and head, with no problem.  
A person would have to have a complete disfigured body to set up the phone in 
the way I had to sit in order to enable Face ID.  The main problem was the way 
the phone was seeing me, and that was in a  extremely unusual way.  Now, could 
the main problem be because of the way the phone seen me, in which this makes 
me wonder just how the phone does see me as far as Security, I don’t know. Is 
there something wrong with my Camera, I don’t know.  Could it be because I had 
my Screen Curtain on at the same time I was trying to enable Face Id, I don’t 
know, could have something accidentally gone wrong during the update, I don’t 
know.  Ok now Sieghard, sit in a chair, tilt your head to the left, and look 
down as if you are trying to look at your left hip, with you holding the phone 
down very close to your left thigh.  Smile!  In any case, I do have Face ID 
working.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Janet, not everybody has the same sense of direction and for some blind people 
it is really difficult o look at something, to walk in a reasonably straight 
line and so on.
I think maybe the Apple rep had some experience with this and found that asking 
people to hold the phone this way and looking down was the best way to get them 
to look the right way.
I just set up my iPhone 13 Pro last week and for me it was fine to  hold the 
camera more or less at arms length, of course I did have my elbow bent a bit so 
the phone wasn't too far away, but this worked fine for me. I have been blind 
for a long time now, I am 55 and lost my sight in an accident when I was 16, 
but I try to make an effort to look at people when I speak to them and I have 
had conversations with customers at my store who didn't know me and who never 
realized for the first minute or two that I couldn't see.
It's good Apple Accessibility could help and hopefully you feel a bit less mad 
at iOS 16.2 since it obviously turned out that it was not the culpret 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-11 Thread janet gross
Hi Feliciano,

I’m  sorry to say, but my Bluetooth issue came back.  Although, I am finding my 
Bluetooth Bose Speaker stops playing only when I am listening to certain Apple 
play list, but not all play list that I have created some years ago.  I’ve 
listened to Apple Music with my Bose Speaker, my Sony 400 Ear Buds, my Power 
Beats Ear Pods, the phone by its self, meaning without any Speakers, and the 
Apple Music still stops playing.  But, like I said only with certain play lists 
 ,  I listen to.  I find this quite unusual as well.  Thank you for your 
encouragement it is greatly appreciated.I think I might need to do 
something to the play lists, just not for sure yet.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet
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RE: face id question

2023-01-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It shouldn't if she uses Voiceover with the attention feature turned off.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: face id question

Hi all. I have a friend who just got an iphone 12. She’s having difficulty 
setting up face ID. Her eyelids are always closed. Would this effect her 
setting up face ID?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
God bless!
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RE: face id question

2023-01-10 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Paula,

The short answer to your question is, “No.”  As long as she does not have the 
attention aware feature switched on, Face ID does not look for the presence of 
eyes and/or eye position, so to speak.

If she is having difficulty, it is probably because she is not positioning  her 
entire face within the camera’s field of view.

Mark

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Jordan
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Subject: face id question

Hi all. I have a friend who just got an iphone 12. She’s having difficulty 
setting up face ID. Her eyelids are always closed. Would this effect her 
setting up face ID? 
Thanks in advance for your thoughts. 
God bless!
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face id question

2023-01-10 Thread Paula Jordan
Hi all. I have a friend who just got an iphone 12. She's having difficulty
setting up face ID. Her eyelids are always closed. Would this effect her
setting up face ID? 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts. 

God bless!

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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-10 Thread Carolyn
Same here, Siegard about looking at people and not having problem setting up. 
We all have different problems and some more some less than others. These lists 
are very helpful to us who do experience problems of one kind or another. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Janet, not everybody has the same sense of direction and for some blind people 
it is really difficult o look at something, to walk in a reasonably straight 
line and so on.

I think maybe the Apple rep had some experience with this and found that asking 
people to hold the phone this way and looking down was the best way to get them 
to look the right way.

I just set up my iPhone 13 Pro last week and for me it was fine to  hold the 
camera more or less at arms length, of course I did have my elbow bent a bit so 
the phone wasn't too far away, but this worked fine for me. I have been blind 
for a long time now, I am 55 and lost my sight in an accident when I was 16, 
but I try to make an effort to look at people when I speak to them and I have 
had conversations with customers at my store who didn't know me and who never 
realized for the first minute or two that I couldn't see. 

It's good Apple Accessibility could help and hopefully you feel a bit less mad 
at iOS 16.2 since it obviously turned out that it was not the culpret 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

 

Hi Everyone, 

I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!  

 

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!  

 

Janet   

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Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-10 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
It took me a bit to get used to face ID.  I find that if I have the
phone on my lap and I kind of turn my head kind of towards my phone
that things work better.  I didn't have to much trouble setting up
face ID in the beginning which was unexpected for me.  Glad you were
able to get things resolved.

On 1/10/23, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.
>
> Feliciano
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> On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to
> enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap,
> and holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone,
> and then Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my
> head!  I was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually
> did to enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite
> unusual, but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could
> tell me where to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera
> is seeing my face.  I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!
> Now, about my Bose Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did
> just about everything we could think of, we removed the speaker from the
> phone, reconnected the phone back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth
> settings, and nothing would work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did
> you check the volume buttons on the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will
> check them, and I pressed the up volume button, and sure enough, the Bose
> Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  Wow, you talk about feeling like an
> idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I both started laughing!  What a idiot
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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-09 Thread M. Taylor
Janet,

I am so glad that all is working correctly.

As for the volume issue?  I have made the same mistake, time and time again.  
You are definitely not an idiot.

It sounds as though you reached a very patient and caring Apple rep to whom you 
mattered.  I am so glad for you.

Thank you for sharing your experience.  We have all learned something new about 
Face ID.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Everyone, 
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!  

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!  

Janet   
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Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-09 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.

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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross  wrote:


Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet

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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Janet, not everybody has the same sense of direction and for some blind people 
it is really difficult o look at something, to walk in a reasonably straight 
line and so on.
I think maybe the Apple rep had some experience with this and found that asking 
people to hold the phone this way and looking down was the best way to get them 
to look the right way.
I just set up my iPhone 13 Pro last week and for me it was fine to  hold the 
camera more or less at arms length, of course I did have my elbow bent a bit so 
the phone wasn't too far away, but this worked fine for me. I have been blind 
for a long time now, I am 55 and lost my sight in an accident when I was 16, 
but I try to make an effort to look at people when I speak to them and I have 
had conversations with customers at my store who didn't know me and who never 
realized for the first minute or two that I couldn't see.
It's good Apple Accessibility could help and hopefully you feel a bit less mad 
at iOS 16.2 since it obviously turned out that it was not the culpret 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet
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Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

2023-01-09 Thread janet gross
Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn't have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet

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RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

2023-01-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't ignore what people say on lists, but I realize that people are more 
likely to complain about a bad experience then they are to let everyone know 
that it went OK. I put a lot of weight on the reports from AppleVis and compare 
them to how I use my iPhone. I also remember that upgrading means I can take 
advantage of new features, get security patches and call Apple for support. IOS 
isn't like Windows where older version will still be supported and get security 
fixes. I still take into account what people say on lists like this, but I 
balance it against outer information.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

I check to see what people on lists say about updates before updating, have 
skipped one or two. I am skipping 16.2; I hear too many minuses about it. I'll 
see what people say about the next one, and if it sounds safe enough, I'll skip 
16.2. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

hello to all,

I,  have an iPhone 12 pro Max. I personally would not  update iOS  updating iOS 
for any reason, unless you require your phone in education and/or employment 
settings. this goes for all technology. do not upgrade to a major opperating 
system, or update to a miner one, unless your workplace or educational 
institution   has compatibility requirements to be running the latest software. 
for example: I bought windows 11 enterprize for this exact reason, and because 
the temptation  to beta test was presented, back as a windows insider i am. 
now, when the next major release of windows 11 ships, i will be automaticly 
unenrolled from the windows insider program, as my settings are such. that is 
my personal opinion after a sirious bug in iOS forst me to reconsider beta 
testing. the bug was, VoiceOver would work as it always does. then it would 
stop. I had an iPhone SE, second generation at the time, it would get very hot, 
it would freeze, and VoiceOver would not  work. as i was beta testing, bugs are 
to be expected. i broke my NDA, as another bug with Bluetooth keyboard access, 
which was it would not allow me to accept keyboard feedback   to VoiceOver, so 
called AppleCare accessibility support i did. the bug was, so sirious that the 
only way to get the phone working, was to literally , call, 911. I did that 
twice, speaking with dispatchers,(who asked me,if i could speak freely to them 
now)  and it was finally fixt in iOS 15.2 developer beta four, as i had a 
developer program membership, at that time. I decided to never beta test, on my 
primary device again! 

so i gave the SE to a friend who had an android phone which was unusible, do to 
no sensativity in his fingers for a touchscreen, and no reliable keyboard 
access. i took a $983.00 loss, as the phone was 1067.20, with an eighteen 
dollar case. he lives in a nurcing home, and thus, cannot afford a new iPhone. 
so that’s that. I don’t plan to beta test in the near term, but things might 
turn in another direction … who knows. as far as Face ID, i too am struggling 
with it! got a trusted family member to help set it up, and the tip i got from 
Apple, is to make sure your nose is in the centre. when i was doing the hed 
movements, i was told by that family member, what to do, and was guided 
physically where to position my hed. it is possible however, it takes time and 
pations. now, i hope you have success, and if an update or upgrade comes, do 
not take it! I did, update my ChromeBook, and Chromevox, the chrome OS screen 
reader, was changed majorly. so updates can brake things, and as screen reader, 
or other acccessibility users, need stability. imagine, you’re in a meeting for 
work. and an update to Chrome OS, or windows, is automaticly installed, as they 
always are. you expect JAWS, ChromeVox, NVDA, or VoiceOver to work, and that 
meeding is highly important to keeping your job! if something goes wrong in the 
moment, updates install, and because of one, you are fired, now that would be 
catastrophic! upgrades and updates are not always what they are cracked up to 
be! Eloquence in iOS, still has a sirious bug where it does not read chunks of 
documents, emails, or any other large peace of text. it siriously inhibits  my 
workflow, to the point of not using it, and having to switch to another 
sinthasizer. eSpeak fits that bill nicely! it’s technicly a beta, but not as 
major as an entire opperating system, and provides bennifits nothing else comes 
close to having! i signed up for beta testing weather gods, but that is 
valuable  feedback i can send, and as a perk, everything is free! actually all 

RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

2023-01-09 Thread Carolyn
I check to see what people on lists say about updates before updating, have 
skipped one or two. I am skipping 16.2; I hear too many minuses about it. I'll 
see what people say about the next one, and if it sounds safe enough, I'll skip 
16.2. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

hello to all,

I,  have an iPhone 12 pro Max. I personally would not  update iOS  updating iOS 
for any reason, unless you require your phone in education and/or employment 
settings. this goes for all technology. do not upgrade to a major opperating 
system, or update to a miner one, unless your workplace or educational 
institution   has compatibility requirements to be running the latest software. 
for example: I bought windows 11 enterprize for this exact reason, and because 
the temptation  to beta test was presented, back as a windows insider i am. 
now, when the next major release of windows 11 ships, i will be automaticly 
unenrolled from the windows insider program, as my settings are such. that is 
my personal opinion after a sirious bug in iOS forst me to reconsider beta 
testing. the bug was, VoiceOver would work as it always does. then it would 
stop. I had an iPhone SE, second generation at the time, it would get very hot, 
it would freeze, and VoiceOver would not  work. as i was beta testing, bugs are 
to be expected. i broke my NDA, as another bug with Bluetooth keyboard access, 
which was it would not allow me to accept keyboard feedback   to VoiceOver, so 
called AppleCare accessibility support i did. the bug was, so sirious that the 
only way to get the phone working, was to literally , call, 911. I did that 
twice, speaking with dispatchers,(who asked me,if i could speak freely to them 
now)  and it was finally fixt in iOS 15.2 developer beta four, as i had a 
developer program membership, at that time. I decided to never beta test, on my 
primary device again! 

so i gave the SE to a friend who had an android phone which was unusible, do to 
no sensativity in his fingers for a touchscreen, and no reliable keyboard 
access. i took a $983.00 loss, as the phone was 1067.20, with an eighteen 
dollar case. he lives in a nurcing home, and thus, cannot afford a new iPhone. 
so that’s that. I don’t plan to beta test in the near term, but things might 
turn in another direction … who knows. as far as Face ID, i too am struggling 
with it! got a trusted family member to help set it up, and the tip i got from 
Apple, is to make sure your nose is in the centre. when i was doing the hed 
movements, i was told by that family member, what to do, and was guided 
physically where to position my hed. it is possible however, it takes time and 
pations. now, i hope you have success, and if an update or upgrade comes, do 
not take it! I did, update my ChromeBook, and Chromevox, the chrome OS screen 
reader, was changed majorly. so updates can brake things, and as screen reader, 
or other acccessibility users, need stability. imagine, you’re in a meeting for 
work. and an update to Chrome OS, or windows, is automaticly installed, as they 
always are. you expect JAWS, ChromeVox, NVDA, or VoiceOver to work, and that 
meeding is highly important to keeping your job! if something goes wrong in the 
moment, updates install, and because of one, you are fired, now that would be 
catastrophic! upgrades and updates are not always what they are cracked up to 
be! Eloquence in iOS, still has a sirious bug where it does not read chunks of 
documents, emails, or any other large peace of text. it siriously inhibits  my 
workflow, to the point of not using it, and having to switch to another 
sinthasizer. eSpeak fits that bill nicely! it’s technicly a beta, but not as 
major as an entire opperating system, and provides bennifits nothing else comes 
close to having! i signed up for beta testing weather gods, but that is 
valuable  feedback i can send, and as a perk, everything is free! actually all 
iOS and iPadOS app betas,as a condition of Apple’s beta testing app, 
TestFlight, it is a stipulation developers adhere to. so it’s not all bad, but 
never take an operating system for a spin in a beta cycle, unless you are a 
competent power user!  apps are fine, sometimes, but if you need one 
specifically   for a job or schooling, never beta test! and especially not on a 
daily driver! 
sincerely,
Daniel Angus MacDonald
  


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 8, 2023, at 7:56 PM, janet gross  
wrote:



 

Hi Everyone. 

I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had 
to erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent 
folder of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now 
having is I can’t set up Face ID.  When I  try to set

RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

2023-01-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Mark, how often one has to enter your Pin I think is highly subjective. I know 
people who do a lot of manual labour and who said Touch Id never worked for 
them or at least not to the point where they even bothered with it because 
their fingers were always too dirty or scratched up for it. They don't have 
this issue with Face Id.
For myself Face Id works better and more reliably than Touch Id as well and I 
often go days without having to enter my Pin.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 7:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

Hello Janet,

First, I am so sorry for your experience. It sounds horrible and very scary; at 
least, it would be scary to me to have to erase my phone in order to get it 
back to a functioning state.

Second, I have given your post a great deal of consideration.  Let me say that, 
regardless of what some would lead you to believe, for those of us who are 
visually impaired, Face ID is far from perfect.  

I am assuming that , like many of us, you cannot see the contents of the phone 
display when it is held at any distance from your face.  

If this is the case, then you are holding the device too close to your face 
when attempting to setup Face ID.  

It may also be the case that the lighting is either too low or not even enough, 
when setting up Face ID.

Were I you, I would ask a sighted person to assist during the Face ID setup 
process.  

In short, you will have to learn the approximate distance from your face, to 
hold the phone in order to use Face ID.  As many have reported in this 
community, this can be learned but, make no mistake, it does take time and 
practice.

Also keep in mind that even sighted users have to enter the device password 
more than was necessary when Touch ID was in vogue.  

So, I suggest that you keep a pair of headphones with you, when in public, just 
in case you need to enter the device password.

Please know that you have our support and try not to be too hard on yourself.  
Learning to use Face ID takes time.

Let us know how it goes, okay?

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

Hi Everyone. 
I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had to 
erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent folder 
of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now having is 
I can’t set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it up, I keep getting a message 
saying my face is not in the frame, then I get a message saying Face ID can’t 
detect any sun glasses put on sun glasses and try again, but I’m not wearing 
glasses.  Sometimes I get the message saying move my head to the right, and 
then move my head to  the left, move my head up.  I then get a message saying 
30  percent. 65 percent move head up, I move my head and it says Face ID not 
available try again later.  I checked in the detention feature and it is off.  
Can someone please tell me is there a new way of setting up Face ID in iOS 
16.2? I feel this is a real security threat not being able to use Face ID.  
When I am around people, when I am in the store, when I am in the doctor’s 
office, I have to enter in my passcode using Voiceover, in which means everyone 
can hear my passcode.  

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  

Janet 
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RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

2023-01-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Why on earth would calling 9 1 1 do anything? If calling was required why not 
call a friend or if you can't call your bank's automated phone system or 6 1 1 
which in Canada connects you to whoever your provider is.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

hello to all,

I,  have an iPhone 12 pro Max. I personally would not  update iOS  updating iOS 
for any reason, unless you require your phone in education and/or employment 
settings. this goes for all technology. do not upgrade to a major opperating 
system, or update to a miner one, unless your workplace or educational 
institution   has compatibility requirements to be running the latest software. 
for example: I bought windows 11 enterprize for this exact reason, and because 
the temptation  to beta test was presented, back as a windows insider i am. 
now, when the next major release of windows 11 ships, i will be automaticly 
unenrolled from the windows insider program, as my settings are such. that is 
my personal opinion after a sirious bug in iOS forst me to reconsider beta 
testing. the bug was, VoiceOver would work as it always does. then it would 
stop. I had an iPhone SE, second generation at the time, it would get very hot, 
it would freeze, and VoiceOver would not  work. as i was beta testing, bugs are 
to be expected. i broke my NDA, as another bug with Bluetooth keyboard access, 
which was it would not allow me to accept keyboard feedback   to VoiceOver, so 
called AppleCare accessibility support i did. the bug was, so sirious that the 
only way to get the phone working, was to literally , call, 911. I did that 
twice, speaking with dispatchers,(who asked me,if i could speak freely to them 
now)  and it was finally fixt in iOS 15.2 developer beta four, as i had a 
developer program membership, at that time. I decided to never beta test, on my 
primary device again!

   so i gave the SE to a friend who had an android phone which was 
unusible, do to no sensativity in his fingers for a touchscreen, and no 
reliable keyboard access. i took a $983.00 loss, as the phone was 1067.20, with 
an eighteen dollar case. he lives in a nurcing home, and thus, cannot afford a 
new iPhone. so that’s that. I don’t plan to beta test in the near term, but 
things might turn in another direction … who knows. as far as Face ID, i too am 
struggling with it! got a trusted family member to help set it up, and the tip 
i got from Apple, is to make sure your nose is in the centre. when i was doing 
the hed movements, i was told by that family member, what to do, and was guided 
physically where to position my hed. it is possible however, it takes time and 
pations. now, i hope you have success, and if an update or upgrade comes, do 
not take it! I did, update my ChromeBook, and Chromevox, the chrome OS screen 
reader, was changed majorly. so updates can brake things, and as screen reader, 
or other acccessibility users, need stability. imagine, you’re in a meeting for 
work. and an update to Chrome OS, or windows, is automaticly installed, as they 
always are. you expect JAWS, ChromeVox, NVDA, or VoiceOver to work, and that 
meeding is highly important to keeping your job! if something goes wrong in the 
moment, updates install, and because of one, you are fired, now that would be 
catastrophic! upgrades and updates are not always what they are cracked up to 
be! Eloquence in iOS, still has a sirious bug where it does not read chunks of 
documents, emails, or any other large peace of text. it siriously inhibits  my 
workflow, to the point of not using it, and having to switch to another 
sinthasizer. eSpeak fits that bill nicely! it’s technicly a beta, but not as 
major as an entire opperating system, and provides bennifits nothing else comes 
close to having! i signed up for beta testing weather gods, but that is 
valuable  feedback i can send, and as a perk, everything is free! actually all 
iOS and iPadOS app betas,as a condition of Apple’s beta testing app, 
TestFlight, it is a stipulation developers adhere to. so it’s not all bad, but 
never take an operating system for a spin in a beta cycle, unless you are a 
competent power user!  apps are fine, sometimes, but if you need one 
specifically   for a job or schooling, never beta test! and especially not on a 
daily driver!
sincerely,
Daniel Angus MacDonald

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 8, 2023, at 7:56 PM, janet gross  wrote:

Hi Everyone.
I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had to 
erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent folder 
of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now having is 
I can’t set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it up, I keep getting a message 
saying my face is not in the frame, then I get a message saying Face ID can’t 
detect any sun glasses

RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

2023-01-08 Thread M. Taylor
Janet, 

I'm curious:  Are you saying that Face ID worked on your X R before you updated 
to iOS 16.2?

If so, then you already know how to use Face ID and my previous comments were 
in error.

Please let me know.

I eagerly await your reply,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:40 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

Hi Mark, 
Thank you for your understanding.  I am just so tired of this so called 
accessible technology!  I've spent two days working on this phone, just because 
I updated.  I've read online if one has a hard time with Face ID after 
updating, just tap on the Face ID reset button, but I don't have the Face ID 
button.  So now, I will have to spend more time on the phone with the Apple 
Support tomorrow again!  
Janet .

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

Hello Janet,

First, I am so sorry for your experience. It sounds horrible and very scary; at 
least, it would be scary to me to have to erase my phone in order to get it 
back to a functioning state.

Second, I have given your post a great deal of consideration.  Let me say that, 
regardless of what some would lead you to believe, for those of us who are 
visually impaired, Face ID is far from perfect.  

I am assuming that , like many of us, you cannot see the contents of the phone 
display when it is held at any distance from your face.  

If this is the case, then you are holding the device too close to your face 
when attempting to setup Face ID.  

It may also be the case that the lighting is either too low or not even enough, 
when setting up Face ID.

Were I you, I would ask a sighted person to assist during the Face ID setup 
process.  

In short, you will have to learn the approximate distance from your face, to 
hold the phone in order to use Face ID.  As many have reported in this 
community, this can be learned but, make no mistake, it does take time and 
practice.

Also keep in mind that even sighted users have to enter the device password 
more than was necessary when Touch ID was in vogue.  

So, I suggest that you keep a pair of headphones with you, when in public, just 
in case you need to enter the device password.

Please know that you have our support and try not to be too hard on yourself.  
Learning to use Face ID takes time.

Let us know how it goes, okay?

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

Hi Everyone. 
I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had to 
erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent folder 
of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now having is 
I can't set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it up, I keep getting a message 
saying my face is not in the frame, then I get a message saying Face ID can't 
detect any sun glasses put on sun glasses and try again, but I'm not wearing 
glasses.  Sometimes I get the message saying move my head to the right, and 
then move my head to  the left, move my head up.  I then get a message saying 
30  percent. 65 percent move head up, I move my head and it says Face ID not 
available try again later.  I checked in the detention feature and it is off.  
Can someone please tell me is there a new way of setting up Face ID in iOS 
16.2? I feel this is a real security threat not being able to use Face ID.  
When I am around people, when I am in the store, when I am in the doctor's 
office, I have to enter in my passcode using Voiceover, in which means everyone 
can hear my passcode.  

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  

Janet 
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2023-01-08 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Janet,

First, I am so sorry for your experience. It sounds horrible and very scary; at 
least, it would be scary to me to have to erase my phone in order to get it 
back to a functioning state.

Second, I have given your post a great deal of consideration.  Let me say that, 
regardless of what some would lead you to believe, for those of us who are 
visually impaired, Face ID is far from perfect.  

I am assuming that , like many of us, you cannot see the contents of the phone 
display when it is held at any distance from your face.  

If this is the case, then you are holding the device too close to your face 
when attempting to setup Face ID.  

It may also be the case that the lighting is either too low or not even enough, 
when setting up Face ID.

Were I you, I would ask a sighted person to assist during the Face ID setup 
process.  

In short, you will have to learn the approximate distance from your face, to 
hold the phone in order to use Face ID.  As many have reported in this 
community, this can be learned but, make no mistake, it does take time and 
practice.

Also keep in mind that even sighted users have to enter the device password 
more than was necessary when Touch ID was in vogue.  

So, I suggest that you keep a pair of headphones with you, when in public, just 
in case you need to enter the device password.

Please know that you have our support and try not to be too hard on yourself.  
Learning to use Face ID takes time.

Let us know how it goes, okay?

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

Hi Everyone. 
I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had to 
erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent folder 
of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now having is 
I can’t set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it up, I keep getting a message 
saying my face is not in the frame, then I get a message saying Face ID can’t 
detect any sun glasses put on sun glasses and try again, but I’m not wearing 
glasses.  Sometimes I get the message saying move my head to the right, and 
then move my head to  the left, move my head up.  I then get a message saying 
30  percent. 65 percent move head up, I move my head and it says Face ID not 
available try again later.  I checked in the detention feature and it is off.  
Can someone please tell me is there a new way of setting up Face ID in iOS 
16.2? I feel this is a real security threat not being able to use Face ID.  
When I am around people, when I am in the store, when I am in the doctor’s 
office, I have to enter in my passcode using Voiceover, in which means everyone 
can hear my passcode.  

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  

Janet 
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RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

2023-01-08 Thread Dennis Long
I can’t disagree with you more.  You should always upgrade to the latest.  It 
has numerous security fixes and for that reason alone  you should upgrade

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

 

hello to all,

 

I,  have an iPhone 12 pro Max. I personally would not  update iOS  updating iOS 
for any reason, unless you require your phone in education and/or employment 
settings. this goes for all technology. do not upgrade to a major opperating 
system, or update to a miner one, unless your workplace or educational 
institution   has compatibility requirements to be running the latest software. 
for example: I bought windows 11 enterprize for this exact reason, and because 
the temptation  to beta test was presented, back as a windows insider i am. 
now, when the next major release of windows 11 ships, i will be automaticly 
unenrolled from the windows insider program, as my settings are such. that is 
my personal opinion after a sirious bug in iOS forst me to reconsider beta 
testing. the bug was, VoiceOver would work as it always does. then it would 
stop. I had an iPhone SE, second generation at the time, it would get very hot, 
it would freeze, and VoiceOver would not  work. as i was beta testing, bugs are 
to be expected. i broke my NDA, as another bug with Bluetooth keyboard access, 
which was it would not allow me to accept keyboard feedback   to VoiceOver, so 
called AppleCare accessibility support i did. the bug was, so sirious that the 
only way to get the phone working, was to literally , call, 911. I did that 
twice, speaking with dispatchers,(who asked me,if i could speak freely to them 
now)  and it was finally fixt in iOS 15.2 developer beta four, as i had a 
developer program membership, at that time. I decided to never beta test, on my 
primary device again! 

 

so i gave the SE to a friend who had an android phone which was 
unusible, do to no sensativity in his fingers for a touchscreen, and no 
reliable keyboard access. i took a $983.00 loss, as the phone was 1067.20, with 
an eighteen dollar case. he lives in a nurcing home, and thus, cannot afford a 
new iPhone. so that’s that. I don’t plan to beta test in the near term, but 
things might turn in another direction … who knows. as far as Face ID, i too am 
struggling with it! got a trusted family member to help set it up, and the tip 
i got from Apple, is to make sure your nose is in the centre. when i was doing 
the hed movements, i was told by that family member, what to do, and was guided 
physically where to position my hed. it is possible however, it takes time and 
pations. now, i hope you have success, and if an update or upgrade comes, do 
not take it! I did, update my ChromeBook, and Chromevox, the chrome OS screen 
reader, was changed majorly. so updates can brake things, and as screen reader, 
or other acccessibility users, need stability. imagine, you’re in a meeting for 
work. and an update to Chrome OS, or windows, is automaticly installed, as they 
always are. you expect JAWS, ChromeVox, NVDA, or VoiceOver to work, and that 
meeding is highly important to keeping your job! if something goes wrong in the 
moment, updates install, and because of one, you are fired, now that would be 
catastrophic! upgrades and updates are not always what they are cracked up to 
be! Eloquence in iOS, still has a sirious bug where it does not read chunks of 
documents, emails, or any other large peace of text. it siriously inhibits  my 
workflow, to the point of not using it, and having to switch to another 
sinthasizer. eSpeak fits that bill nicely! it’s technicly a beta, but not as 
major as an entire opperating system, and provides bennifits nothing else comes 
close to having! i signed up for beta testing weather gods, but that is 
valuable  feedback i can send, and as a perk, everything is free! actually all 
iOS and iPadOS app betas,as a condition of Apple’s beta testing app, 
TestFlight, it is a stipulation developers adhere to. so it’s not all bad, but 
never take an operating system for a spin in a beta cycle, unless you are a 
competent power user!  apps are fine, sometimes, but if you need one 
specifically   for a job or schooling, never beta test! and especially not on a 
daily driver! 

sincerely,

Daniel Angus MacDonald

  

Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 8, 2023, at 7:56 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Everyone. 

I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had to 
erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent folder 
of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now having is 
I can’t set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it up, I keep getting a message 
saying my face is not in the frame, then I get a message saying Face ID can’t 
detect any sun g

Re: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

2023-01-08 Thread Daniel MacDonald
hello to all,I,  have an iPhone 12 pro Max. I personally would not  update iOS  updating iOS for any reason, unless you require your phone in education and/or employment settings. this goes for all technology. do not upgrade to a major opperating system, or update to a miner one, unless your workplace or educational institution   has compatibility requirements to be running the latest software. for example: I bought windows 11 enterprize for this exact reason, and because the temptation  to beta test was presented, back as a windows insider i am. now, when the next major release of windows 11 ships, i will be automaticly unenrolled from the windows insider program, as my settings are such. that is my personal opinion after a sirious bug in iOS forst me to reconsider beta testing. the bug was, VoiceOver would work as it always does. then it would stop. I had an iPhone SE, second generation at the time, it would get very hot, it would freeze, and VoiceOver would not  work. as i was beta testing, bugs are to be expected. i broke my NDA, as another bug with Bluetooth keyboard access, which was it would not allow me to accept keyboard feedback   to VoiceOver, so called AppleCare accessibility support i did. the bug was, so sirious that the only way to get the phone working, was to literally , call, 911. I did that twice, speaking with dispatchers,(who asked me,if i could speak freely to them now)  and it was finally fixt in iOS 15.2 developer beta four, as i had a developer program membership, at that time. I decided to never beta test, on my primary device again! 	so i gave the SE to a friend who had an android phone which was unusible, do to no sensativity in his fingers for a touchscreen, and no reliable keyboard access. i took a $983.00 loss, as the phone was 1067.20, with an eighteen dollar case. he lives in a nurcing home, and thus, cannot afford a new iPhone. so that’s that. I don’t plan to beta test in the near term, but things might turn in another direction … who knows. as far as Face ID, i too am struggling with it! got a trusted family member to help set it up, and the tip i got from Apple, is to make sure your nose is in the centre. when i was doing the hed movements, i was told by that family member, what to do, and was guided physically where to position my hed. it is possible however, it takes time and pations. now, i hope you have success, and if an update or upgrade comes, do not take it! I did, update my ChromeBook, and Chromevox, the chrome OS screen reader, was changed majorly. so updates can brake things, and as screen reader, or other acccessibility users, need stability. imagine, you’re in a meeting for work. and an update to Chrome OS, or windows, is automaticly installed, as they always are. you expect JAWS, ChromeVox, NVDA, or VoiceOver to work, and that meeding is highly important to keeping your job! if something goes wrong in the moment, updates install, and because of one, you are fired, now that would be catastrophic! upgrades and updates are not always what they are cracked up to be! Eloquence in iOS, still has a sirious bug where it does not read chunks of documents, emails, or any other large peace of text. it siriously inhibits  my workflow, to the point of not using it, and having to switch to another sinthasizer. eSpeak fits that bill nicely! it’s technicly a beta, but not as major as an entire opperating system, and provides bennifits nothing else comes close to having! i signed up for beta testing weather gods, but that is valuable  feedback i can send, and as a perk, everything is free! actually all iOS and iPadOS app betas,as a condition of Apple’s beta testing app, TestFlight, it is a stipulation developers adhere to. so it’s not all bad, but never take an operating system for a spin in a beta cycle, unless you are a competent power user!  apps are fine, sometimes, but if you need one specifically   for a job or schooling, never beta test! and especially not on a daily driver! sincerely,Daniel Angus MacDonald  Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 8, 2023, at 7:56 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi Everyone. 
I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had to erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent folder of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now having is I
 can’t set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it up, I keep getting a message saying my face is not in the frame, then I get a message saying Face ID can’t detect any sun glasses put on sun glasses and try again, but I’m not wearing glasses.  Sometimes I get the
 message saying move my head to the right, and then move my head to  the left, move my head up.  I then get a message saying 30  percent. 65 percent move head up, I move my head and it says Face ID not available try again later.  I checked in the detention
 feature and it is off.  Can someone please tell me is there a new way of setting up Face ID in iOS 16.2? I feel this is a real

Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

2023-01-08 Thread janet gross
Hi Everyone.
I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had to 
erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent folder 
of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now having is 
I can't set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it up, I keep getting a message 
saying my face is not in the frame, then I get a message saying Face ID can't 
detect any sun glasses put on sun glasses and try again, but I'm not wearing 
glasses.  Sometimes I get the message saying move my head to the right, and 
then move my head to  the left, move my head up.  I then get a message saying 
30  percent. 65 percent move head up, I move my head and it says Face ID not 
available try again later.  I checked in the detention feature and it is off.  
Can someone please tell me is there a new way of setting up Face ID in iOS 
16.2? I feel this is a real security threat not being able to use Face ID.  
When I am around people, when I am in the store, when I am in the doctor's 
office, I have to enter in my passcode using Voiceover, in which means everyone 
can hear my passcode.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Janet

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RE: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

2022-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Mark, I am not sure why Face Id on your iPhone 11 seemed unreliable, I 
have an iPhone 11 and it works almost flawlessly and for me at least it works 
better than Touch Id ever did and Touch Id for me also worked very well, but 
Face Id especially now that masks are not typically required any more is 
fantastic.

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Subject: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

Hello Everyone,

I think it is fair to say that no one was a bigger critic of Face ID than I.

However, I must admit that using Face ID on iPhone 14 has been much, much 
better than my experience than on iPhone 11. 

I cannot articulate how or why this is so but there is definitely a difference 
in how the systems feels between the two devices.

The funny thing is, two nights ago, when I went back to my beloved 8 Plus for a 
few minutes to check on an app, I found myself wanting to use Face ID gestures 
more than my beloved Touch ID.  It took me more than a few minutes to figure 
out why some of the gestures were not working on my beloved 8 Plus. When I 
realized that Touch ID was the method of choice on the old phone I couldn't 
stop laughing at how readily the brain can adapt to new techniques.

To those using Touch ID, I say keep doing so for as long as you can.
However I will add that on iPhone 14, at least, Face ID is not bad, not bad at 
all.  (smile).

Mark


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Re: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

2022-12-26 Thread Michael Irons
Hello everyone I got the iPhone SE 20 because I was not willing to mess around 
with Face ID and possibly having to wear a mask. I didn’t think I would be able 
to set up Face ID where it would work. I was born blind from birth and 
literally have not seen a thing in my life. I have lots of difficulty 
understanding what things really look like. I would say if no one leave me they 
might as well come and beat me up. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 26, 2022, at 12:32 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I think it is fair to say that no one was a bigger critic of Face ID than I.
> 
> However, I must admit that using Face ID on iPhone 14 has been much, much
> better than my experience than on iPhone 11. 
> 
> I cannot articulate how or why this is so but there is definitely a
> difference in how the systems feels between the two devices.
> 
> The funny thing is, two nights ago, when I went back to my beloved 8 Plus
> for a few minutes to check on an app, I found myself wanting to use Face ID
> gestures more than my beloved Touch ID.  It took me more than a few minutes
> to figure out why some of the gestures were not working on my beloved 8
> Plus. When I realized that Touch ID was the method of choice on the old
> phone I couldn't stop laughing at how readily the brain can adapt to new
> techniques.
> 
> To those using Touch ID, I say keep doing so for as long as you can.
> However I will add that on iPhone 14, at least, Face ID is not bad, not bad
> at all.  (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

2022-12-26 Thread Carolyn
LOL, Mark, interesting about new tricks. Good that facial ID is good for you 
now, because I do not think it is going away ever. 

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Subject: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

Hello Everyone,

I think it is fair to say that no one was a bigger critic of Face ID than I.

However, I must admit that using Face ID on iPhone 14 has been much, much 
better than my experience than on iPhone 11. 

I cannot articulate how or why this is so but there is definitely a difference 
in how the systems feels between the two devices.

The funny thing is, two nights ago, when I went back to my beloved 8 Plus for a 
few minutes to check on an app, I found myself wanting to use Face ID gestures 
more than my beloved Touch ID.  It took me more than a few minutes to figure 
out why some of the gestures were not working on my beloved 8 Plus. When I 
realized that Touch ID was the method of choice on the old phone I couldn't 
stop laughing at how readily the brain can adapt to new techniques.

To those using Touch ID, I say keep doing so for as long as you can.
However I will add that on iPhone 14, at least, Face ID is not bad, not bad at 
all.  (smile).

Mark


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Re: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

2022-12-25 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I don't always get face ID to work on my 13 pro max, but it is nice.

On 12/26/22, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I think it is fair to say that no one was a bigger critic of Face ID than
> I.
>
> However, I must admit that using Face ID on iPhone 14 has been much, much
> better than my experience than on iPhone 11.
>
> I cannot articulate how or why this is so but there is definitely a
> difference in how the systems feels between the two devices.
>
> The funny thing is, two nights ago, when I went back to my beloved 8 Plus
> for a few minutes to check on an app, I found myself wanting to use Face ID
> gestures more than my beloved Touch ID.  It took me more than a few minutes
> to figure out why some of the gestures were not working on my beloved 8
> Plus. When I realized that Touch ID was the method of choice on the old
> phone I couldn't stop laughing at how readily the brain can adapt to new
> techniques.
>
> To those using Touch ID, I say keep doing so for as long as you can.
> However I will add that on iPhone 14, at least, Face ID is not bad, not bad
> at all.  (smile).
>
> Mark
>
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Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

2022-12-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I think it is fair to say that no one was a bigger critic of Face ID than I.

However, I must admit that using Face ID on iPhone 14 has been much, much
better than my experience than on iPhone 11. 

I cannot articulate how or why this is so but there is definitely a
difference in how the systems feels between the two devices.

The funny thing is, two nights ago, when I went back to my beloved 8 Plus
for a few minutes to check on an app, I found myself wanting to use Face ID
gestures more than my beloved Touch ID.  It took me more than a few minutes
to figure out why some of the gestures were not working on my beloved 8
Plus. When I realized that Touch ID was the method of choice on the old
phone I couldn't stop laughing at how readily the brain can adapt to new
techniques.

To those using Touch ID, I say keep doing so for as long as you can.
However I will add that on iPhone 14, at least, Face ID is not bad, not bad
at all.  (smile).

Mark


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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-10 Thread Dennis Long
Reason one to not set it on the raise to wake setting is battery drain. 

 If you keep your phone in your pocket it will wake up if the phone moves.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Homuth
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2022 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Because that doesn’t prevent Face ID from firing when it wakes, which is what I 
want to do.

 

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Gazer
Sent: December 9, 2022 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Why not set it 
on the raise to wake setting? 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

I mean, you can. But every time the phone wakes, Face ID fires. That’s what I 
want to turn off if possible – because just because I woke the thing up doesn’t 
mean I want to do more than make it repeat itself. If I need to just make sure 
I unlock it first, then… I mean… I will, but if I don’t have to, then why?

 

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mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> 
Sent: December 7, 2022 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hmm this is a good question I wonder if you could use a combination of face id 
and pin? Since I have a I phone 8 but am planning to get a I phone 14 prow in 
the new year. It would be good if you had a choice of using face id and pin in 
combination with one another. From Mich.

 

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James Homuth
Sent: December 7, 2022 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!

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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-09 Thread James Homuth
Because that doesn’t prevent Face ID from firing when it wakes, which is what I 
want to do.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: December 9, 2022 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Why not set it 
on the raise to wake setting? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

I mean, you can. But every time the phone wakes, Face ID fires. That’s what I 
want to turn off if possible – because just because I woke the thing up doesn’t 
mean I want to do more than make it repeat itself. If I need to just make sure 
I unlock it first, then… I mean… I will, but if I don’t have to, then why?

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> 
Sent: December 7, 2022 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hmm this is a good question I wonder if you could use a combination of face id 
and pin? Since I have a I phone 8 but am planning to get a I phone 14 prow in 
the new year. It would be good if you had a choice of using face id and pin in 
combination with one another. From Mich.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: December 7, 2022 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!

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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-09 Thread Star Gazer
Why not set it 
on the raise to wake setting? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

I mean, you can. But every time the phone wakes, Face ID fires. That’s what I 
want to turn off if possible – because just because I woke the thing up doesn’t 
mean I want to do more than make it repeat itself. If I need to just make sure 
I unlock it first, then… I mean… I will, but if I don’t have to, then why?

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> 
Sent: December 7, 2022 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hmm this is a good question I wonder if you could use a combination of face id 
and pin? Since I have a I phone 8 but am planning to get a I phone 14 prow in 
the new year. It would be good if you had a choice of using face id and pin in 
combination with one another. From Mich.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: December 7, 2022 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-08 Thread Carolyn
I keep it disabled. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

I have no problems with attention turned off, even though I have a full beard 
that hangs down past my chest.

Kelly



On 12/7/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> Yeah, I've done that. Thanks for confirming. That's how I discovered 
> the thing in my other thread. LOL
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: December 7, 2022 12:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
> You will definitely have better luck if you disable attention.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
> Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end 
> up enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with 
> that setting disabled.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
> Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the 
> phone kind of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the 
> phone and it usually works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth 
> keyboard most of the time to unlock my phone with my passcode.  I use 
> my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal apps.
>
> On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
>> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for 
>> once when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I 
>> didn’t appear to have a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of tony k5twz.com
>> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>>
>>
>>
>> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the 
>> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
>> Haven’t had a problem since.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of James Homuth
>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was 
>> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using 
>> for successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It 
>> seems to enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up 
>> resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after 
>> using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
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Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-08 Thread Kelly Pierce
I have no problems with attention turned off, even though I have a
full beard that hangs down past my chest.

Kelly



On 12/7/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> Yeah, I've done that. Thanks for confirming. That's how I discovered the
> thing in my other thread. LOL
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: December 7, 2022 12:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
> You will definitely have better luck if you disable attention.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James
> Homuth
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
> Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end up
> enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with that
> setting disabled.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
> Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the phone
> kind of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the phone and it
> usually works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth keyboard most of the time
> to unlock my phone with my passcode.  I use my face ID for my crecdit card
> and paypal apps.
>
> On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
>> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once
>> when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t
>> appear to have a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> tony k5twz.com
>> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>>
>>
>>
>> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the
>> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
>> Haven’t had a problem since.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>> Behalf Of James Homuth
>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was
>> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for
>> successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to
>> enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the
>> passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for
>> years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
>>
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Re: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread Maria Heinrichs


    I have an idea. So, if you get a wallet case it's not gonna do that 
because the case is like a book 'cause you'd flip open the cover. Or, if 
you didn't have a wallet case, if you just had an open case, meaning 
it's just on the bottom but the screen is exposed, turn the iPhone face 
down, then when it goes off and you walk by it, your face won't appear. 
Hope this helps.

Maria On 12/7/2022 9:25 AM, James Homuth wrote:


Hi Alan,

Thanks for that. I’m familiar with that setting. The thing is, it’s 
not that I never want to use Face ID to unlock my phone. It’s that I 
don’t always want my phone to unlock when I’m using it. If I can do a 
thing without unlocking it, like read the weather warning I’m under 
right now, then I see no reason to unlock it. Now, if turning off Face 
ID is the only way to stop the iPhone from trying to unlock every time 
I wake it, then I mean that’s what I’ll do. I’d just rather not have to.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Alan Lemly

*Sent:* December 7, 2022 10:00 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

Hi James,

You should go to Settings, Face ID and Passcode and become familiar 
with the various settings found within that screen. At the top is a 
heading Use Face ID for and the first item under it is Unlock iPhone. 
You might try turning that off to see if you get the desired result.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 7, 2022, at 2:02 AM, James Homuth  wrote:



Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID
question. Mostly I think it’s just going to be getting used to it.
Speaking of that, I’m wondering if there’s a way I can prevent
Face ID from being the default – right now, the iPhone assumes I
want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face ID
trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m
busy doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to
see what it said in case, you know, something at work is on fire
and I need to be not doing the thing I’m doing. So I pull up my
notifications, and Face ID fires off. But because I’m not
intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I missed,
Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good
position for it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my
notifications? Besides waring earbuds or something, which makes no
sense if I’m the only one in the place and so my phone isn’t
disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my phone to only try
to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face ID is
probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself
after 5 failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again,
if I’m missing something obvious feel free to whap me upside the
head with it. Thanks for the help!

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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread James Homuth
If it fails to recognize your face after 5 attempts, it requires a passcode to 
unlock your phone and reenable Face ID. Which is perfectly fine, if 4 of those 
5 attempts weren’t Face ID firing when I didn’t want it to.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 7, 2022 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

And if your face isn’t recognized you can still review your lock screen, and it 
won’t fire off again unless you slide up from the bottom of the screen. You 
don’t need to worry about anything like your data being wiped because it didn’t 
recognize your face after five or ten attempts.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

But then he won't be able to unlock his phone using Face Id at all.

Even if Face Id recognizes your face it won't take you to the home screen 
unless you swipe up from the bottom. I just tried several times both by tapping 
my screen (I have tap to wake enabled) as well as using the side button to wake 
up my phone.

If I look directly at my locked phone and press the side button I hear the tone 
that Face I d has done its thing, but I am still on the lock screen where I can 
review all my notifications and only when I swipe up from the bottom am I taken 
to the home screen. So yes, the phone has unlocked, but if all you want to do 
is review a notification you can do so and then either press the side button to 
lock the phone again or leave it to lock automatically.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hi James, 

 

You should go to Settings, Face ID and Passcode and become familiar with the 
various settings found within that screen. At the top is a heading Use Face ID 
for and the first item under it is Unlock iPhone. You might try turning that 
off to see if you get the desired result. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Dec 7, 2022, at 2:02 AM, James Homuth mailto:ja...@the-jdh.com> > wrote:



Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-07 Thread James Homuth
Yeah, I've done that. Thanks for confirming. That's how I discovered the thing 
in my other thread. LOL

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: December 7, 2022 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

You will definitely have better luck if you disable attention. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Homuth
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end up 
enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with that 
setting disabled.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the phone kind 
of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the phone and it usually 
works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth keyboard most of the time to unlock 
my phone with my passcode.  I use my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal 
apps.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once 
> when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t 
> appear to have a problem.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> tony k5twz.com
> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the 
> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
> Haven’t had a problem since.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was 
> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for 
> successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to 
> enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the 
> passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for 
> years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
>
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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
And if your face isn’t recognized you can still review your lock screen, and it 
won’t fire off again unless you slide up from the bottom of the screen. You 
don’t need to worry about anything like your data being wiped because it didn’t 
recognize your face after five or ten attempts.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

But then he won't be able to unlock his phone using Face Id at all.
Even if Face Id recognizes your face it won't take you to the home screen 
unless you swipe up from the bottom. I just tried several times both by tapping 
my screen (I have tap to wake enabled) as well as using the side button to wake 
up my phone.
If I look directly at my locked phone and press the side button I hear the tone 
that Face I d has done its thing, but I am still on the lock screen where I can 
review all my notifications and only when I swipe up from the bottom am I taken 
to the home screen. So yes, the phone has unlocked, but if all you want to do 
is review a notification you can do so and then either press the side button to 
lock the phone again or leave it to lock automatically.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

Hi James,

You should go to Settings, Face ID and Passcode and become familiar with the 
various settings found within that screen. At the top is a heading Use Face ID 
for and the first item under it is Unlock iPhone. You might try turning that 
off to see if you get the desired result.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2022, at 2:02 AM, James Homuth 
mailto:ja...@the-jdh.com>> wrote:

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!
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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You will definitely have better luck if you disable attention. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Homuth
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end up 
enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with that 
setting disabled.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the phone kind 
of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the phone and it usually 
works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth keyboard most of the time to unlock 
my phone with my passcode.  I use my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal 
apps.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once 
> when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t 
> appear to have a problem.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> tony k5twz.com
> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the 
> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
> Haven’t had a problem since.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was 
> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for 
> successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to 
> enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the 
> passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for 
> years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
>
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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
But then he won't be able to unlock his phone using Face Id at all.
Even if Face Id recognizes your face it won't take you to the home screen 
unless you swipe up from the bottom. I just tried several times both by tapping 
my screen (I have tap to wake enabled) as well as using the side button to wake 
up my phone.
If I look directly at my locked phone and press the side button I hear the tone 
that Face I d has done its thing, but I am still on the lock screen where I can 
review all my notifications and only when I swipe up from the bottom am I taken 
to the home screen. So yes, the phone has unlocked, but if all you want to do 
is review a notification you can do so and then either press the side button to 
lock the phone again or leave it to lock automatically.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

Hi James,

You should go to Settings, Face ID and Passcode and become familiar with the 
various settings found within that screen. At the top is a heading Use Face ID 
for and the first item under it is Unlock iPhone. You might try turning that 
off to see if you get the desired result.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2022, at 2:02 AM, James Homuth  wrote:

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!
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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread chrisjudge1967
You can. Just because you set up face id doesn’t mean you can’t use your 
passcode.

 

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mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: December 7, 2022 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hmm this is a good question I wonder if you could use a combination of face id 
and pin? Since I have a I phone 8 but am planning to get a I phone 14 prow in 
the new year. It would be good if you had a choice of using face id and pin in 
combination with one another. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: December 7, 2022 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!

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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread James Homuth
Hi Alan,

 

Thanks for that. I’m familiar with that setting. The thing is, it’s not that I 
never want to use Face ID to unlock my phone. It’s that I don’t always want my 
phone to unlock when I’m using it. If I can do a thing without unlocking it, 
like read the weather warning I’m under right now, then I see no reason to 
unlock it. Now, if turning off Face ID is the only way to stop the iPhone from 
trying to unlock every time I wake it, then I mean that’s what I’ll do. I’d 
just rather not have to.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: December 7, 2022 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hi James, 

 

You should go to Settings, Face ID and Passcode and become familiar with the 
various settings found within that screen. At the top is a heading Use Face ID 
for and the first item under it is Unlock iPhone. You might try turning that 
off to see if you get the desired result. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 7, 2022, at 2:02 AM, James Homuth mailto:ja...@the-jdh.com> > wrote:



Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread James Homuth
I mean, you can. But every time the phone wakes, Face ID fires. That’s what I 
want to turn off if possible – because just because I woke the thing up doesn’t 
mean I want to do more than make it repeat itself. If I need to just make sure 
I unlock it first, then… I mean… I will, but if I don’t have to, then why?

 

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Sent: December 7, 2022 4:57 AM
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Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hmm this is a good question I wonder if you could use a combination of face id 
and pin? Since I have a I phone 8 but am planning to get a I phone 14 prow in 
the new year. It would be good if you had a choice of using face id and pin in 
combination with one another. From Mich.

 

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James Homuth
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Subject: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!

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Re: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi James, You should go to Settings, Face ID and Passcode and become familiar with the various settings found within that screen. At the top is a heading Use Face ID for and the first item under it is Unlock iPhone. You might try turning that off to see if you get the desired result. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 7, 2022, at 2:02 AM, James Homuth  wrote:Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the help!



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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread michv
Hmm this is a good question I wonder if you could use a combination of face id 
and pin? Since I have a I phone 8 but am planning to get a I phone 14 prow in 
the new year. It would be good if you had a choice of using face id and pin in 
combination with one another. From Mich.

 

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Homuth
Sent: December 7, 2022 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!

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How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

2022-12-07 Thread James Homuth
Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly
I think it's just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I'm
wondering if there's a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default -
right now, the iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which
results in Face ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off
while I'm busy doing something, so when I'm free I decide to check it out to
see what it said in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need
to be not doing the thing I'm doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face
ID fires off. But because I'm not intending to unlock my phone but only
check to see what I missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don't have it
in a good position for it to succeed-why would I if I only want to check my
notifications? Besides waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if
I'm the only one in the place and so my phone isn't disturbing anyone, is
there a way I can set my phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I
tell it to? Otherwise, Face ID is probably going to continue to misfire and
end up disabling itself after 5 failed attempts that I didn't want to be
attempts. Again, if I'm missing something obvious feel free to whap me
upside the head with it. Thanks for the help!

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread chrisjudge1967
I just point my ugly mug at the screen, usually it unlocks.

 

 

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Sent: December 5, 2022 11:33 PM
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Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered when 
modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and 
consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on a 
regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
correctly?

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The same way, hold it in front of your face about 12 inches away. If that isn’t 
possible then use your PIN.

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Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

How do you get it to work say if your laying down and need to unlock your phone 
for a minute?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

I was having horrible success with face ID until I started holding the phone a 
bit further from my face. I’m guessing it’s a good 12 inches away now or maybe 
a bit more. I’d suggest practicing and changing things up a bit until you start 
having more success.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lielle 
Ben Simon ?? ?
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Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Hi, the trick I doing is that: I put the screen on my nose, and far away from 
my face.
You need to get practis on that, but it worth this.

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‫ב-6 בדצמ׳ 2022, בשעה 5:33, ‏‏James Homuth 
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Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered when 
modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and 
consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on a 
regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
correctly?
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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread Star Gazer
Correct you want that feature disabled as 
attention in this case means make eye contact with the phone in a way that most 
people who are blind just can't do. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Right; keep it disabled. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end up 
enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with that 
setting disabled.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the phone kind 
of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the phone and it usually 
works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth keyboard most of the time to unlock 
my phone with my passcode.  I use my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal 
apps.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once 
> when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t 
> appear to have a problem.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> tony k5twz.com
> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the 
> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
> Haven’t had a problem since.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
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> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
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>
>
> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was 
> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for 
> successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to 
> enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the 
> passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for 
> years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread kriegler01
Hi Dennis,

This doesn’t always work, but when it does, I hold the phone parallel to my 
body and I keep it low. I don’t hold it way up in the air. I also don’t hold it 
far away from me either, which is what I used to do, and that never worked.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

 

How do you get it to work say if your laying down and need to unlock your phone 
for a minute?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 4:43 AM
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Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

 

I was having horrible success with face ID until I started holding the phone a 
bit further from my face. I’m guessing it’s a good 12 inches away now or maybe 
a bit more. I’d suggest practicing and changing things up a bit until you start 
having more success.

 

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Hi, the trick I doing is that: I put the screen on my nose, and far away from 
my face.

You need to get practis on that, but it worth this.

 

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‫ב-6 בדצמ׳ 2022, בשעה 5:33, ‏‏James Homuth ‏< <mailto:ja...@the-jdh.com> 
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Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered when 
modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and 
consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on a 
regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
correctly?

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread Dennis Long
How do you get it to work say if your laying down and need to unlock your phone 
for a minute?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 4:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

 

I was having horrible success with face ID until I started holding the phone a 
bit further from my face. I’m guessing it’s a good 12 inches away now or maybe 
a bit more. I’d suggest practicing and changing things up a bit until you start 
having more success.

 

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Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

 

Hi, the trick I doing is that: I put the screen on my nose, and far away from 
my face.

You need to get practis on that, but it worth this.

 

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‫ב-6 בדצמ׳ 2022, בשעה 5:33, ‏‏James Homuth ‏< <mailto:ja...@the-jdh.com> 
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Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered when 
modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and 
consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on a 
regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
correctly?

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread Carolyn
Right; keep it disabled. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end up 
enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with that 
setting disabled.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the phone kind 
of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the phone and it usually 
works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth keyboard most of the time to unlock 
my phone with my passcode.  I use my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal 
apps.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once 
> when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t 
> appear to have a problem.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> tony k5twz.com
> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the 
> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
> Haven’t had a problem since.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was 
> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for 
> successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to 
> enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the 
> passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for 
> years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
>
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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread Carolyn
You turn Attention Awareness off. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Do you leave the “require attention” setting disabled?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lielle 
Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: December 5, 2022 11:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

 

Hi, the trick I doing is that: I put the screen on my nose, and far away from 
my face.

You need to get practis on that, but it worth this.

 

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‫ב-6 בדצמ׳ 2022, בשעה 5:33, ‏‏James Homuth ‏mailto:ja...@the-jdh.com> > כתב/ה:



Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered 
when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and 
consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on a 
regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
correctly?

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread Carolyn
Could be, you might try holding your phone a little farther from your face - 
about a foot away. 

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Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered when 
modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and 
consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on a 
regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
correctly?

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I was having horrible success with face ID until I started holding the phone a 
bit further from my face. I’m guessing it’s a good 12 inches away now or maybe 
a bit more. I’d suggest practicing and changing things up a bit until you start 
having more success.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lielle 
Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi, the trick I doing is that: I put the screen on my nose, and far away from 
my face.
You need to get practis on that, but it worth this.

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Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered when 
modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and 
consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on a 
regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
correctly?
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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread James Homuth
That's what I thought. Yeah, VO turns it off by default if you enable it during 
setup. Sometimes I want to use my phone without unlocking it so I thought I'd 
give it a try with that setting on.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 6, 2022 12:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I made sure the aquire attention was turned off before I even began to set up 
face ID.  You want to make sure this setting is turned off.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end 
> up enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with 
> that setting disabled.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
> Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the 
> phone kind of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the 
> phone and it usually works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth 
> keyboard most of the time to unlock my phone with my passcode.  I use 
> my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal apps.
>
> On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
>> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for 
>> once when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I 
>> didn’t appear to have a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of tony k5twz.com
>> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>>
>>
>>
>> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the 
>> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
>> Haven’t had a problem since.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of James Homuth
>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was 
>> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using 
>> for successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It 
>> seems to enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up 
>> resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after 
>> using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
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Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I made sure the aquire attention was turned off before I even began to
set up face ID.  You want to make sure this setting is turned off.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end up
> enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with that
> setting disabled.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
> Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the phone
> kind of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the phone and it
> usually works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth keyboard most of the time
> to unlock my phone with my passcode.  I use my face ID for my crecdit card
> and paypal apps.
>
> On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
>> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once
>> when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t
>> appear to have a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> tony k5twz.com
>> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>>
>>
>>
>> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the
>> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
>> Haven’t had a problem since.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
>> Behalf Of James Homuth
>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was
>> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for
>> successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to
>> enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the
>> passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for
>> years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread James Homuth
Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end up 
enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with that 
setting disabled.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the phone kind 
of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the phone and it usually 
works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth keyboard most of the time to unlock 
my phone with my passcode.  I use my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal 
apps.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once 
> when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t 
> appear to have a problem.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> tony k5twz.com
> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the 
> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.  
> Haven’t had a problem since.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was 
> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for 
> successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to 
> enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the 
> passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for 
> years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
>
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Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the
phone kind of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the
phone and it usually works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth
keyboard most of the time to unlock my phone with my passcode.  I use
my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal apps.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once when
> my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t appear to
> have a problem.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of tony
> k5twz.com
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>
>
> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the phone
> and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.  Haven’t had a
> problem since.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
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> consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on
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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread James Homuth
That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once when my 
head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t appear to have a 
problem.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of tony 
k5twz.com
Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the phone and 
moved it slowly around my face from different angles.  Haven’t had a problem 
since.

 

Tony

 

 

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regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
correctly?

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread tony k5twz . com
I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the phone and 
moved it slowly around my face from different angles.  Haven’t had a problem 
since.

Tony


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mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing 
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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread James Homuth
Do you leave the “require attention” setting disabled?

 

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Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: December 5, 2022 11:41 PM
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Hi, the trick I doing is that: I put the screen on my nose, and far away from 
my face.

You need to get practis on that, but it worth this.

 

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0509549090

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Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered when 
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regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t 
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Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
Hi, the trick I doing is that: I put the screen on my nose, and far away from my face.You need to get practis on that, but it worth this.מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ ‫ב-6 בדצמ׳ 2022, בשעה 5:33, ‏‏James Homuth ‏ כתב/ה:‬Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?



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Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

2022-12-05 Thread James Homuth
Yup, me again, with what I'm sure is another question that was answered when
modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for successfully and
consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to enjoy failing on me on
a regular basis and I end up resorting to the passcode. Which, I mean, I
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Re: why I don't like face ID

2022-09-12 Thread Lynn Schneider
Contrary to popular wisdom, on my iPhone 13 Pro with the latest software 
update, my face ID will just not work in the dark. Unfortunately for me, I 
forgot about this when I was sitting in my very dark room this morning trying 
to access my bank account. Having failed to recognize my face after three 
attempts, the app told me that I was locked out of my  Bank  because I forgot 
my bank password, which the app would not let me store in my keychain when I 
first set things up. So now, I am trying to recover my account. Coming up with 
a new strong password and typing it in on my iPhone is difficult, as it will 
not let me have a computer generated password and it has a time limit on typing 
things in. with all the capitals and punctuation and whatever else, with trying 
to type fast, my first password and my confirmation password never match. then, 
I am kicked out of the entire system and have to start the process all over 
again. this is not the first time something like this has happened to me, all 
because it did not recognize my face in the beginning. When I went to check my 
credit card balance, I was a little smarter this time and actually walked 
downstairs and was in good light. it recognized my face in a split second and 
there were no problems. so now, I am spending the afternoon engaged in the 
convoluted and arduous process of reestablishing access to my bank account with 
a password change. yes, I have attention turned off in the Face ID and I reset 
it frequently when it actually stops recognizing my face entirely. I am about 
ready to just ditch face ID all together for logins. according to my cited 
compatriots, my face does not change overnight so as to be unrecognizable. I am 
perplexed that I am having such difficulty considering the fact that most other 
blind users are not. Touch ID always worked flawlessly for me, but I accept the 
fact that we will never go back to that system. it is really disheartening that 
I have this problem and cannot seem to find solutions. I love my iPhone and I 
am thankful for its accessibility to me as a blind person, but I am just hoping 
that I will find a solution to the face ID conundrum.

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RE: why I don't like face ID

2022-09-12 Thread chrisjudge1967
I use to have trouble getting it to while laying down but since I got the 13 
pro it works the majority of the time.

 

Chris Judge

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There are a few reasons.  1 for what Mark and Donna brought up.

2 If I am laying down I can’t get it to reliably work.  I really wish Apple 
would give us the choice.

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why I don't like face ID

2022-09-12 Thread Dennis Long
There are a few reasons.  1 for what Mark and Donna brought up.

2 If I am laying down I can't get it to reliably work.  I really wish Apple
would give us the choice.

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RE: Face ID hit or miss

2022-09-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I wonder about this. I doubt Android manufacturers would keep using touch ID if 
at least someone outside of the blindness community wanted it. I could see 
where blind people would prefer touch ID over face ID more than sighted users 
would, since a sighted person isn't going to use their iPhone without looking 
at it.

I've seen reviews of Android phones where people love the touch ID on the back 
of the phone and others where they hate it. It depends a lot on where the touch 
ID sensor is located, which varies from manufacturer to manufacturer in Android 
land. With the desire to turn all smart phones into a slab of glass, I suspect 
touch ID, as long as it sticks around, will move to under the glass sensors.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

Hello James,

Of course you can send Apple your feedback regarding Touch Id, but apart from a 
few people mostly in the blind community I know very few people who prefer 
Touch Id over Face Id and unless it is already part of their plan for the next 
couple of releases, Apple will not continue to offer Touch Id just because a 
small minority of a minority prefers it. You can be sure that the iPhone 15 is 
probably mostly a done deal already inside Apple and that they are probably 
working on phones at least 2 generations ahead so unless they design an 
under-screen Touch Id option which meets their requirements and which is cheap 
enough to include without making the phones even more expensive I don't see it 
coming back. Of course a new SE phone even if it is the rumoured 6.1 inches 
instead of a smaller 4.7 inches could still feature the virtual home button 
with Touch Id.
I doubt Apple would put Touch Id on a side button and I doubt even more they 
would put it on the back of the phone. In most articles where people review 
phones with Touch Id on the back I read that it is not intuitive and convenient 
to use.
 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

Dennis,

Thanks for the link for submitting feedback to Apple.

I'll be explaining to Apple how important touch I D is for me.  And, I don't 
care where it is located on the phone.  I do not even necessarily  need a home 
button but, touch I D is extremely important for me.  Glad I don't live in a 
location where I have to wear gloves to protect my hands from frost bite.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 10:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I agree submit feedback to 
Feedback.apple.com 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
cory...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

One of my google phones has it on the power button as mentioned in my last 
email, and the other has it on the screen. I'm not sure what's taking apple so 
long to add this feature. 

C
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

That is simply speculation at this point, it is probably more likely they would 
come up with under-screen Touch Id which means that you put your finger on a 
certain area of the screen and that the scanner is embedded under the screen 
and it will read your finger print that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I read somewhere that on a future iPhone, they were going to put a fingerprint 
option in the Power Button. I probably would like that, although that is not a 
deal breaker in my case. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I like the finger print much better.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
Schneider
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

Attention has always been off, as I was instructed by others on this list to do 
back when I first got my phone about eight months ago or so. Believe me, I have 
tried everything. I don’t mind face ID, but I had better success with the 
fingerprint, that’s for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:30 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth, there is 

RE: Face ID hit or miss

2022-09-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello James,

Of course you can send Apple your feedback regarding Touch Id, but apart from a 
few people mostly in the blind community I know very few people who prefer 
Touch Id over Face Id and unless it is already part of their plan for the next 
couple of releases, Apple will not continue to offer Touch Id just because a 
small minority of a minority prefers it. You can be sure that the iPhone 15 is 
probably mostly a done deal already inside Apple and that they are probably 
working on phones at least 2 generations ahead so unless they design an 
under-screen Touch Id option which meets their requirements and which is cheap 
enough to include without making the phones even more expensive I don't see it 
coming back. Of course a new SE phone even if it is the rumoured 6.1 inches 
instead of a smaller 4.7 inches could still feature the virtual home button 
with Touch Id.
I doubt Apple would put Touch Id on a side button and I doubt even more they 
would put it on the back of the phone. In most articles where people review 
phones with Touch Id on the back I read that it is not intuitive and convenient 
to use.
 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

Dennis,

Thanks for the link for submitting feedback to Apple.

I'll be explaining to Apple how important touch I D is for me.  And, I don't 
care where it is located on the phone.  I do not even necessarily  need a home 
button but, touch I D is extremely important for me.  Glad I don't live in a 
location where I have to wear gloves to protect my hands from frost bite.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 10:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I agree submit feedback to 
Feedback.apple.com 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
cory...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

One of my google phones has it on the power button as mentioned in my last 
email, and the other has it on the screen. I'm not sure what's taking apple so 
long to add this feature. 

C
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

That is simply speculation at this point, it is probably more likely they would 
come up with under-screen Touch Id which means that you put your finger on a 
certain area of the screen and that the scanner is embedded under the screen 
and it will read your finger print that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I read somewhere that on a future iPhone, they were going to put a fingerprint 
option in the Power Button. I probably would like that, although that is not a 
deal breaker in my case. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I like the finger print much better.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
Schneider
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

Attention has always been off, as I was instructed by others on this list to do 
back when I first got my phone about eight months ago or so. Believe me, I have 
tried everything. I don’t mind face ID, but I had better success with the 
fingerprint, that’s for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:30 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth, there is a setting to not require attention for Face ID 
> that makes it more forgiving. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 8:35 PM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room where 
>> there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was standing 
>> behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried the 
>> suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had much 
>> better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that 
>> without having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face 
>> ID. I have too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been 
>> tempting in the past. 
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> 
&g

RE: Face ID hit or miss

2022-09-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'd guard against buying into the marketing from either side of the aisle. 
Sure, Google would like you to think Android is the more innovative platform, 
but there are examples where Apple has scooped them and examples where a new 
Android feature didn't work out in the market place. Apple would like you to 
think that they always get things right and don't introduce a feature until 
they've improved it somehow, but not all of Apple's feature pan out, like 3D 
touch peek and pop, and sometimes they're just flat late to the game, such as 
with wireless charging.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

Apple typically won't do anything unless it works really good. On the one hand 
you ask what is taking Apple so long, but let's remember who first introduced 
Touch Id on smart phones and who first introduced Face Id. In both cases it was 
Apple with Samsung, Google and others following. I just read an article where a 
guy on 9 to 5 Google wrote that he bought the latest Google Pixel phone which 
has under-display Touch Id. He handed it to a friend to check it out and his 
friend put his finger on the screen and the phone unlocked. At first he thought 
it was some fluke, but after locking the phone again his friend repeated it and 
he was consistently able to unlock his phone. Not so great and I'd rather Apple 
doesn't put something like that on an iPhone if it's potentially not safe.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
cory...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

One of my google phones has it on the power button as mentioned in my last 
email, and the other has it on the screen. I'm not sure what's taking apple so 
long to add this feature. 

C
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

That is simply speculation at this point, it is probably more likely they would 
come up with under-screen Touch Id which means that you put your finger on a 
certain area of the screen and that the scanner is embedded under the screen 
and it will read your finger print that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I read somewhere that on a future iPhone, they were going to put a fingerprint 
option in the Power Button. I probably would like that, although that is not a 
deal breaker in my case. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I like the finger print much better.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
Schneider
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

Attention has always been off, as I was instructed by others on this list to do 
back when I first got my phone about eight months ago or so. Believe me, I have 
tried everything. I don’t mind face ID, but I had better success with the 
fingerprint, that’s for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:30 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth, there is a setting to not require attention for Face ID 
> that makes it more forgiving. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 8:35 PM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room where 
>> there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was standing 
>> behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried the 
>> suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had much 
>> better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that 
>> without having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face 
>> ID. I have too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been 
>> tempting in the past. 
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
>>> necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the 
>>> time, if li

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