Help with native Calendar app please

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I seem to be totally flummoxed by the native Calendar app.

I've put in Events and have the USA Holidays app that automatically loads US 
Holiday dates.

Sometimes I go into Calendar and click List, and get Holidays and Events 
starting June 2013, even though it's now December 2014. If I one finger flick 
to delete, then double tap to delete, delete announces but delete doesn't 
happen.

Other times, I go to a date with an event. It states there is an event and 
announces to double tap the button to get details about the event.  When I 
Double tap on the button, I only get a page with Calendar Headings but no info.

Is there a recommended resource I can go to to figure out the native Calendar 
app using Voiceover? Any guidance will be most appreciated.

Thanks in advance. Keith.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All 
new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can 
be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[Richard Turner]

My advice is to buy FantastiCal 2 for the iPhone.
It pulls the information in your native Calendar app, but is much easier to 
use. If you are interested in more details about it, let me know and I will 
give you some more detailed examples.
You may want to first read the app description in the app store.

Fantastical 2 for iPhone - Calendar and Reminders by Flexibits Inc.
https://appsto.re/us/2GhZQ.i

Richard


Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe



Sent from my iPhone 5S



> On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I seem to be totally flummoxed by the native Calendar app.
>  
> I’ve put in Events and have the USA Holidays app that automatically loads US 
> Holiday dates.
>  
> Sometimes I go into Calendar and click List, and get Holidays and Events 
> starting June 2013, even though it’s now December 2014. If I one finger flick 
> to delete, then double tap to delete, delete announces but delete doesn’t 
> happen.
>  
> Other times, I go to a date with an event. It states there is an event and 
> announces to double tap the button to get details about the event.  When I 
> Double tap on the button, I only get a page with Calendar Headings but no 
> info.
>  
> Is there a recommended resource I can go to to figure out the native Calendar 
> app using Voiceover? Any guidance will be most appreciated.
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith.
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 
> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list 
> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All 
new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can 
be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[Alex Hall]

For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got Fantastical 
while it was on sale a couple months back, but I never use it. I don't see what 
it offers me, besides far easier appointment adding, that the native app does 
not.

As to listing events, don't flick to them - you'll start way back in the past, 
as you discovered. Instead, touch the middle of the screen, or wherever the 
list is displayed, and you will land on the current or nearest event. You can't 
delete holiday events because those are on a public (read-only) calendar. The 
hint you hear, and the delete gesture, don't know that, so VoiceOver still 
presents the option even though it will do nothing. I'm not sure what you mean 
about not being able to view event details - double tapping an event should 
open that event. Again, the public holidays calendar may not support this, I'm 
not sure.
> On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> My advice is to buy FantastiCal 2 for the iPhone.
> It pulls the information in your native Calendar app, but is much easier to 
> use. If you are interested in more details about it, let me know and I will 
> give you some more detailed examples.
> You may want to first read the app description in the app store.
> 
> Fantastical 2 for iPhone - Calendar and Reminders by Flexibits Inc.
> https://appsto.re/us/2GhZQ.i 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
> 
> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I seem to be totally flummoxed by the native Calendar app.
>>  
>> I’ve put in Events and have the USA Holidays app that automatically loads US 
>> Holiday dates.
>>  
>> Sometimes I go into Calendar and click List, and get Holidays and Events 
>> starting June 2013, even though it’s now December 2014. If I one finger 
>> flick to delete, then double tap to delete, delete announces but delete 
>> doesn’t happen.
>>  
>> Other times, I go to a date with an event. It states there is an event and 
>> announces to double tap the button to get details about the event.  When I 
>> Double tap on the button, I only get a page with Calendar Headings but no 
>> info.
>>  
>> Is there a recommended resource I can go to to figure out the native 
>> Calendar app using Voiceover? Any guidance will be most appreciated.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance. Keith.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 
>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list 
>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ 
>> .
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone 
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 
> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list 
> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ 
> .
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .


--
Have a great day,
Alex Hall
mehg...@icloud.com

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All 
new members to the thi

RE: Help with native Calendar app please

[Richard Turner]

I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time, 

I just went into it.

First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.

You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.

Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.

Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.

I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upper 
right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen just above the home 
button.

It actually works quite well.

 

I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in particular, 
the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, etc.

Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of events in one 
string in Fantastical 2.  

But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app seems to be 
just fine.

 

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please

 

For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got Fantastical 
while it was on sale a couple months back, but I never use it. I don't see what 
it offers me, besides far easier appointment adding, that the native app does 
not.

 

As to listing events, don't flick to them - you'll start way back in the past, 
as you discovered. Instead, touch the middle of the screen, or wherever the 
list is displayed, and you will land on the current or nearest event. You can't 
delete holiday events because those are on a public (read-only) calendar. The 
hint you hear, and the delete gesture, don't know that, so VoiceOver still 
presents the option even though it will do nothing. I'm not sure what you mean 
about not being able to view event details - double tapping an event should 
open that event. Again, the public holidays calendar may not support this, I'm 
not sure.

On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Richard Turner mailto:rich...@turner42.com> > wrote:

 

My advice is to buy FantastiCal 2 for the iPhone.

It pulls the information in your native Calendar app, but is much easier to 
use. If you are interested in more details about it, let me know and I will 
give you some more detailed examples.

You may want to first read the app description in the app store.

 

Fantastical 2 for iPhone - Calendar and Reminders by Flexibits Inc.

https://appsto.re/us/2GhZQ.i

 

Richard

 

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I seem to be totally flummoxed by the native Calendar app.

 

I’ve put in Events and have the USA Holidays app that automatically loads US 
Holiday dates.

 

Sometimes I go into Calendar and click List, and get Holidays and Events 
starting June 2013, even though it’s now December 2014. If I one finger flick 
to delete, then double tap to delete, delete announces but delete doesn’t 
happen.

 

Other times, I go to a date with an event. It states there is an event and 
announces to double tap the button to get details about the event.  When I 
Double tap on the button, I only get a page with Calendar Headings but no info.

 

Is there a recommended resource I can go to to figure out the native Calendar 
app using Voiceover? Any guidance will be most appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith. 

 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All 
new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can 
be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> .
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> .
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All 
new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
directly rather than posting on the lis

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[Alex Hall]

I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the 
event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :) As 
to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify far 
more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other Friday or 
Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins when creating 
events, as you said, and its different interface and ability to combine 
calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just don't find it to 
offer anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer keeping my reminders 
and calendars separate, and entering events is slower but doable. I'm not 
saying one is better than the other, but if the OP spends more time with the 
native app, he might find he can save $5.
> On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time, 
> I just went into it.
> First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
> You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
> Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
> Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
> I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upper 
> right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen just above the 
> home button.
> It actually works quite well.
>  
> I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in 
> particular, the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday, 
> Wednesday, Friday, etc.
> Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of events in 
> one string in Fantastical 2.  
> But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app seems to be 
> just fine.
>  
> Richard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>  
> For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got Fantastical 
> while it was on sale a couple months back, but I never use it. I don't see 
> what it offers me, besides far easier appointment adding, that the native app 
> does not.
>  
> As to listing events, don't flick to them - you'll start way back in the 
> past, as you discovered. Instead, touch the middle of the screen, or wherever 
> the list is displayed, and you will land on the current or nearest event. You 
> can't delete holiday events because those are on a public (read-only) 
> calendar. The hint you hear, and the delete gesture, don't know that, so 
> VoiceOver still presents the option even though it will do nothing. I'm not 
> sure what you mean about not being able to view event details - double 
> tapping an event should open that event. Again, the public holidays calendar 
> may not support this, I'm not sure.
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Richard Turner > <mailto:rich...@turner42.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> My advice is to buy FantastiCal 2 for the iPhone.
>> It pulls the information in your native Calendar app, but is much easier to 
>> use. If you are interested in more details about it, let me know and I will 
>> give you some more detailed examples.
>> You may want to first read the app description in the app store.
>>  
>> Fantastical 2 for iPhone - Calendar and Reminders by Flexibits Inc.
>> https://appsto.re/us/2GhZQ.i <https://appsto.re/us/2GhZQ.i>
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>> mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I seem to be totally flummoxed by the native Calendar app.
>>>  
>>> I’ve put in Events and have the USA Holidays app that automatically loads 
>>> US Holiday dates.
>>>  
>>> Sometimes I go into Calendar and click List, and get Holidays and Events 
>>> starting June 2013, even though it’s now December 2014. If I one finger 
>>> flick to delete, then double tap to delete, delete announces but delete 
>>> doesn’t happen.
>>>  
>>> Other times, I go to a date with an event. It states there is an event and 
>>> annou

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[Wayne Merritt]

Regarding the native calendar, one difference and perhaps advantage it
has over Fantastical 2 is when scheduling appointments. I scheduled an
annual event from the native calendar and noticed a new "travel time"
option on the new appointment screen. I haven't used the native
calendar in a long time, also preferring Fantastical, but that travel
time item must be a new addition in iOS 8. It looks like once you
enable this, and then enter the total amount of time it will take to
get to your appointment, the calendar will add that time onto the
appointment time. I suppose it then would give you an appropriate
alert based on the travel and appointment times. For those that use
their location services in that way, that sounds very handy.

Wayne

On 12/4/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the
> event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :)
> As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify
> far more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other
> Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins
> when creating events, as you said, and its different interface and ability
> to combine calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just
> don't find it to offer anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer
> keeping my reminders and calendars separate, and entering events is slower
> but doable. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if the OP
> spends more time with the native app, he might find he can save $5.
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>
>> I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time,
>> I just went into it.
>> First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
>> You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
>> Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
>> Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
>> I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upper
>> right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen just above the
>> home button.
>> It actually works quite well.
>>
>> I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in
>> particular, the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday,
>> Wednesday, Friday, etc.
>> Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of events in
>> one string in Fantastical 2.
>> But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app seems to
>> be just fine.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>>
>> For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got
>> Fantastical while it was on sale a couple months back, but I never use it.
>> I don't see what it offers me, besides far easier appointment adding, that
>> the native app does not.
>>
>> As to listing events, don't flick to them - you'll start way back in the
>> past, as you discovered. Instead, touch the middle of the screen, or
>> wherever the list is displayed, and you will land on the current or
>> nearest event. You can't delete holiday events because those are on a
>> public (read-only) calendar. The hint you hear, and the delete gesture,
>> don't know that, so VoiceOver still presents the option even though it
>> will do nothing. I'm not sure what you mean about not being able to view
>> event details - double tapping an event should open that event. Again, the
>> public holidays calendar may not support this, I'm not sure.
>>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Richard Turner >> <mailto:rich...@turner42.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My advice is to buy FantastiCal 2 for the iPhone.
>>> It pulls the information in your native Calendar app, but is much easier
>>> to use. If you are interested in more details about it, let me know and I
>>> will give you some more detailed examples.
>>> You may want to first read the app description in the app store.
>>>
>>> Fantastical 2 for iPhone - Calendar and Reminders by Flexibits Inc.
>>> https://appsto.re/us/2GhZQ.i <https://appsto.re/us/2GhZQ.i>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>>

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[Richard Turner]

Interesting.
I was curious about this after your note.
I went in and added travel time to an appointment.
Nothing changed in the main listing for that appointment. The travel time only 
showed if I opened the appointment and double tapped on edit.
I could have more easily just entered the travel time in the location field 
where it would show up by default.
Unless I am missing something really obvious.
Richard


Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe



Sent from my iPhone 5S



> On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Regarding the native calendar, one difference and perhaps advantage it
> has over Fantastical 2 is when scheduling appointments. I scheduled an
> annual event from the native calendar and noticed a new "travel time"
> option on the new appointment screen. I haven't used the native
> calendar in a long time, also preferring Fantastical, but that travel
> time item must be a new addition in iOS 8. It looks like once you
> enable this, and then enter the total amount of time it will take to
> get to your appointment, the calendar will add that time onto the
> appointment time. I suppose it then would give you an appropriate
> alert based on the travel and appointment times. For those that use
> their location services in that way, that sounds very handy.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 12/4/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the
>> event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :)
>> As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify
>> far more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other
>> Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins
>> when creating events, as you said, and its different interface and ability
>> to combine calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just
>> don't find it to offer anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer
>> keeping my reminders and calendars separate, and entering events is slower
>> but doable. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if the OP
>> spends more time with the native app, he might find he can save $5.
>>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time,
>>> I just went into it.
>>> First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
>>> You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
>>> Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
>>> Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
>>> I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upp

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All 
new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can 
be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[Wayne Merritt]

Hmm, not sure. I just saw that entry today. Not totally sure how it works.

Wayne

On 12/4/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Interesting.
> I was curious about this after your note.
> I went in and added travel time to an appointment.
> Nothing changed in the main listing for that appointment. The travel time
> only showed if I opened the appointment and double tapped on edit.
> I could have more easily just entered the travel time in the location field
> where it would show up by default.
> Unless I am missing something really obvious.
> Richard
>
>
> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>
> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>
>
>
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> Regarding the native calendar, one difference and perhaps advantage it
>> has over Fantastical 2 is when scheduling appointments. I scheduled an
>> annual event from the native calendar and noticed a new "travel time"
>> option on the new appointment screen. I haven't used the native
>> calendar in a long time, also preferring Fantastical, but that travel
>> time item must be a new addition in iOS 8. It looks like once you
>> enable this, and then enter the total amount of time it will take to
>> get to your appointment, the calendar will add that time onto the
>> appointment time. I suppose it then would give you an appropriate
>> alert based on the travel and appointment times. For those that use
>> their location services in that way, that sounds very handy.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 12/4/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap
>>> the
>>> event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works.
>>> :)
>>> As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you
>>> specify
>>> far more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other
>>> Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins
>>> when creating events, as you said, and its different interface and
>>> ability
>>> to combine calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just
>>> don't find it to offer anything I can't already do that I need - I
>>> prefer
>>> keeping my reminders and calendars separate, and entering events is
>>> slower
>>> but doable. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if the OP
>>> spends more time with the native app, he might find he can save $5.
 On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

 I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long
 time,
 I just went into it.
 First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
 You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
 Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
 Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
 I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the
 upp
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list.
> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any
> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a
> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators
> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list
> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>


-- 
Follow me on Twitter at:
www.twitter.com/wcmerritt
My websites:
www.wayneism.com
www.whitecaneday.org

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All 
new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can 
be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Help with native Calendar app please

[SSEric]

Wayne, out of curiosity the other night, I tried that. I scheduled an
appointment at 9:00. Based on the location of the appointment and my current
location, it said it would take 15 minutes to get there. So, I expected an
alert at 8:45. I don't know if I was too close to that time, as it was about
8:30 then, or if I did something else wrong, but I did not get an alert of
the appointment at 8:45.

Let us know if you find out what that really does. Maybe someone else has
better information.

Eric

P.s. I've not followed this thread, but I do find the time zone support
interesting. For a trip last week, I used it when scheduling appointments
with mixed results. I would often forget it was correcting for time zone or
I would not listen to the entire calendar entry when it says the time in the
current zone and for the actual time zone, and I would mentally make
adjustments not necessary. That's how I was 2 hours off scheduling
transportation at the airport. SMILE It is a nice addition...
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please

Regarding the native calendar, one difference and perhaps advantage it has
over Fantastical 2 is when scheduling appointments. I scheduled an annual
event from the native calendar and noticed a new "travel time"
option on the new appointment screen. I haven't used the native calendar in
a long time, also preferring Fantastical, but that travel time item must be
a new addition in iOS 8. It looks like once you enable this, and then enter
the total amount of time it will take to get to your appointment, the
calendar will add that time onto the appointment time. I suppose it then
would give you an appropriate alert based on the travel and appointment
times. For those that use their location services in that way, that sounds
very handy.

Wayne

On 12/4/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double 
> tap the event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least 
> it works. :) As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in 
> iOS8 lets you specify far more detailed repeat intervals than ever 
> before, such as every other Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two 
> weeks. Fantastical still wins when creating events, as you said, and 
> its different interface and ability to combine calendar events and 
> reminders in one place is helpful. I just don't find it to offer 
> anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer keeping my 
> reminders and calendars separate, and entering events is slower but 
> doable. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if the OP spends
more time with the native app, he might find he can save $5.
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>
>> I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long 
>> time, I just went into it.
>> First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
>> You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
>> Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
>> Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
>> I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the 
>> upper right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen 
>> just above the home button.
>> It actually works quite well.
>>
>> I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in 
>> particular, the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday, 
>> Wednesday, Friday, etc.
>> Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of 
>> events in one string in Fantastical 2.
>> But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app 
>> seems to be just fine.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] 
>> On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>>
>> For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got 
>> Fantastical while it was on sale a couple months back, but I never use
it.
>> I don't see what it offers me, besides far easier appointment adding, 
>> that the native app does not.
>>
>> As to listing events, don't flick to them - you'll start way back in 
>> the past, as you discovered. Instead, touch the middle of the screen, 
>> or wherever the list is dis

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[Sherrie]

I think the difference in the way the list is shown is the important thing. I 
am still using IOS 7, by the way and the list showed up with all the dates and 
the no event, 1 event, etc. after each date with no details except at the 
bottom.  
I wanted the list shown the previous way which was just a list with only the 
dates that had appointments with each appointment listed right after the date.  
But the tricky part is that I can’t remember exactly how I got it into this 
format. Three times it has reverted back to the first, useless list and I spent 
a good chunk of time trying every combination of VO gestures until I eventually 
got the streamlined useful list.  The three times were months apart so I can’t 
remember exactly what worked to switch it to the better list even though the 
last time I was trying to pay attention so I could put it in my notes. It seems 
that maybe the gesture was something at the bottom of the screen but I am not 
going to take a chance on replicating it until I have to as it was very 
frustrating.
The “good” list also starts with dates from the past but tapping the “Today” 
button at the lower left and then the middle of the screen puts me in the right 
place.

Hopefully, the “good” list is the default in IOS 8 so that when I finally am 
forced to upgrade that will be one benefit.

When I was having trouble getting to the list I preferred I downloaded an app 
called Calendars 5 which does give a concise list of appointments and also 
includes the reminders in the same list.   I really like it but I downloaded it 
for free from Apps Gone Free and I think it is $6.99 now.  It coordinates the 
calendar app and the reminders app into one list.  This also allows you to use 
Siri to enter calendar events and Reminders and they show up in the Calendars 5 
app as well.
Here is the link to the info about the app:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/calendars-5-smart-calendar/id697927927?mt=8

Sherrie Gosling

From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please

I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the 
event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :) As 
to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify far 
more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other Friday or 
Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins when creating 
events, as you said, and its different interface and ability to combine 
calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just don't find it to 
offer anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer keeping my reminders 
and calendars separate, and entering events is slower but doable. I'm not 
saying one is better than the other, but if the OP spends more time with the 
native app, he might find he can save $5.

  On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

  I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time, 
  I just went into it.
  First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
  You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
  Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
  Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
  I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upper 
right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen just above the home 
button.
  It actually works quite well.

  I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in 
particular, the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday, Wednesday, 
Friday, etc.
  Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of events in 
one string in Fantastical 2.  
  But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app seems to be 
just fine.

  Richard

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Hall
  Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:25 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
   
  For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got Fantastical 
while it was on sale a couple months back, but I never use it. I don't see what 
it offers me, besides far easier appointment adding, that the native app does 
not.
   
  As to listing events, don't flick to them - you'll start way back in the 
past, as you discovered. Instead, touch the middle of the screen, or wherever 
the list is displayed, and you will land on the current or nearest event. You 
can't delete holiday events because those are on a public (read-only) calendar. 
The hint you hear, and the delete gesture, don't know that, so VoiceOver still 
presents the option even though it will do nothing. I'm not sure what you mean 
about not being able to view event details - double tapping an event should 
open that event. A

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[David Chittenden]

Travel time does a few things. If an appointment is flagged as busy, it marks 
the travel time as busy also, so one does not schedule another appointment 
during that time (or at least gives a warning of potential conflict). If the 
appointment is shared, the travel time portion is not shared.

Travel time adjusts the appointment alerts to alert the number of minutes 
before travel time rather than before the actual appointment.

If a location is used, Apple Maps is consulted to calculate travel time and 
directions from a chosen origin. Travel time can be set as this amount. Also, 
both driving and walking travel times are offered. One can choose which is 
preferred.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Dec 2014, at 10:15, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Interesting.
> I was curious about this after your note.
> I went in and added travel time to an appointment.
> Nothing changed in the main listing for that appointment. The travel time 
> only showed if I opened the appointment and double tapped on edit.
> I could have more easily just entered the travel time in the location field 
> where it would show up by default.
> Unless I am missing something really obvious.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
> 
> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Regarding the native calendar, one difference and perhaps advantage it
>> has over Fantastical 2 is when scheduling appointments. I scheduled an
>> annual event from the native calendar and noticed a new "travel time"
>> option on the new appointment screen. I haven't used the native
>> calendar in a long time, also preferring Fantastical, but that travel
>> time item must be a new addition in iOS 8. It looks like once you
>> enable this, and then enter the total amount of time it will take to
>> get to your appointment, the calendar will add that time onto the
>> appointment time. I suppose it then would give you an appropriate
>> alert based on the travel and appointment times. For those that use
>> their location services in that way, that sounds very handy.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 12/4/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the
>>> event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :)
>>> As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify
>>> far more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other
>>> Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins
>>> when creating events, as you said, and its different interface and ability
>>> to combine calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just
>>> don't find it to offer anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer
>>> keeping my reminders and calendars separate, and entering events is slower
>>> but doable. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if the OP
>>> spends more time with the native app, he might find he can save $5.
 On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 
 I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time,
 I just went into it.
 First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
 You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
 Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
 Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
 I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upp
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 
> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list 
> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All 
new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any 
questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 
member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 
directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can 
be searched at htt

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[David Chittenden]

As the default calendar alert is 15 minutes before the appointment start time, 
or the travel time if that is selected, you would not have received an alert as 
the time you selected was already past.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Dec 2014, at 10:51, SSEric  wrote:
> 
> Wayne, out of curiosity the other night, I tried that. I scheduled an
> appointment at 9:00. Based on the location of the appointment and my current
> location, it said it would take 15 minutes to get there. So, I expected an
> alert at 8:45. I don't know if I was too close to that time, as it was about
> 8:30 then, or if I did something else wrong, but I did not get an alert of
> the appointment at 8:45.
> 
> Let us know if you find out what that really does. Maybe someone else has
> better information.
> 
> Eric
> 
> P.s. I've not followed this thread, but I do find the time zone support
> interesting. For a trip last week, I used it when scheduling appointments
> with mixed results. I would often forget it was correcting for time zone or
> I would not listen to the entire calendar entry when it says the time in the
> current zone and for the actual time zone, and I would mentally make
> adjustments not necessary. That's how I was 2 hours off scheduling
> transportation at the airport. SMILE It is a nice addition...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 2:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
> 
> Regarding the native calendar, one difference and perhaps advantage it has
> over Fantastical 2 is when scheduling appointments. I scheduled an annual
> event from the native calendar and noticed a new "travel time"
> option on the new appointment screen. I haven't used the native calendar in
> a long time, also preferring Fantastical, but that travel time item must be
> a new addition in iOS 8. It looks like once you enable this, and then enter
> the total amount of time it will take to get to your appointment, the
> calendar will add that time onto the appointment time. I suppose it then
> would give you an appropriate alert based on the travel and appointment
> times. For those that use their location services in that way, that sounds
> very handy.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 12/4/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double 
>> tap the event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least 
>> it works. :) As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in 
>> iOS8 lets you specify far more detailed repeat intervals than ever 
>> before, such as every other Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two 
>> weeks. Fantastical still wins when creating events, as you said, and 
>> its different interface and ability to combine calendar events and 
>> reminders in one place is helpful. I just don't find it to offer 
>> anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer keeping my 
>> reminders and calendars separate, and entering events is slower but 
>> doable. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if the OP spends
> more time with the native app, he might find he can save $5.
>>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long 
>>> time, I just went into it.
>>> First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
>>> You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
>>> Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
>>> Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
>>> I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the 
>>> upper right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen 
>>> just above the home button.
>>> It actually works quite well.
>>> 
>>> I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in 
>>> particular, the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday, 
>>> Wednesday, Friday, etc.
>>> Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of 
>>> events in one string in Fantastical 2.
>>> But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app 
>>> seems to be just fine.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] 
>>

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[David Chittenden]

It depends on which calendar screen you are in when you select list view.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Dec 2014, at 03:09, Sherrie  wrote:
> 
> I think the difference in the way the list is shown is the important thing. I 
> am still using IOS 7, by the way and the list showed up with all the dates 
> and the no event, 1 event, etc. after each date with no details except at the 
> bottom. 
> I wanted the list shown the previous way which was just a list with only the 
> dates that had appointments with each appointment listed right after the  
> date.  But the tricky part is that I can’t remember exactly how I got it into 
> this format. Three times it has reverted back to the first, useless list and 
> I spent a good chunk of time trying every combination of VO gestures until I 
> eventually got the streamlined useful list.  The three times were months 
> apart so I can’t remember exactly what worked to switch it to the better list 
> even though the last time I was trying to pay attention so I could put it in 
> my notes. It seems that maybe the gesture was something at the bottom of the 
> screen but I am not going to take a chance on replicating it until I have to 
> as it was very frustrating.
> The “good” list also starts with dates from the past but tapping the “Today” 
> button at the lower left and then the middle of the screen puts me in the 
> right place.
>  
> Hopefully, the “good” list is the default in IOS 8 so that when I finally am 
> forced to upgrade that will be one benefit.
>  
> When I was having trouble getting to the list I preferred I downloaded an app 
> called Calendars 5 which does give a concise list of appointments and also 
> includes the reminders in the same list.   I really like it but I downloaded 
> it for free from Apps Gone Free and I think it is $6.99 now.  It coordinates 
> the calendar app and the reminders app into one list.  This also allows you 
> to use Siri to enter calendar events and Reminders and they show up in the 
> Calendars 5 app as well.
> Here is the link to the info about the app:
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/calendars-5-smart-calendar/id697927927?mt=8
>  
> Sherrie Gosling
>  
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>  
> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the 
> event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :) 
> As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify 
> far more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other 
> Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins when 
> creating events, as you said, and its different interface and ability to 
> combine calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just don't 
> find it to offer anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer keeping 
> my reminders and calendars separate, and entering events is slower but 
> doable. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if the OP spends 
> more time with the native app, he might find he can save $5.
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>  
>> I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time, 
>> I just went into it.
>> First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
>> You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
>> Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
>> Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
>> I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upper 
>> right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen just above the 
>> home button.
>> It actually works quite well.
>>  
>> I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in 
>> particular, the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday, 
>> Wednesday, Friday, etc.
>> Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of events in 
>> one string in Fantastical 2.  
>> But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app seems to be 
>> just fine.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>>  
>> For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got 
>> Fantastical while it was on sale a couple months bac

RE: Help with native Calendar app please

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Can you expand upon this, please? Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please

It depends on which calendar screen you are in when you select list view.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Dec 2014, at 03:09, Sherrie 
mailto:nanagoose4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think the difference in the way the list is shown is the important thing. I 
am still using IOS 7, by the way and the list showed up with all the dates and 
the no event, 1 event, etc. after each date with no details except at the 
bottom.
I wanted the list shown the previous way which was just a list with only the 
dates that had appointments with each appointment listed right after the date.  
But the tricky part is that I can’t remember exactly how I got it into this 
format. Three times it has reverted back to the first, useless list and I spent 
a good chunk of time trying every combination of VO gestures until I eventually 
got the streamlined useful list.  The three times were months apart so I can’t 
remember exactly what worked to switch it to the better list even though the 
last time I was trying to pay attention so I could put it in my notes. It seems 
that maybe the gesture was something at the bottom of the screen but I am not 
going to take a chance on replicating it until I have to as it was very 
frustrating.
The “good” list also starts with dates from the past but tapping the “Today” 
button at the lower left and then the middle of the screen puts me in the right 
place.

Hopefully, the “good” list is the default in IOS 8 so that when I finally am 
forced to upgrade that will be one benefit.

When I was having trouble getting to the list I preferred I downloaded an app 
called Calendars 5 which does give a concise list of appointments and also 
includes the reminders in the same list.   I really like it but I downloaded it 
for free from Apps Gone Free and I think it is $6.99 now.  It coordinates the 
calendar app and the reminders app into one list.  This also allows you to use 
Siri to enter calendar events and Reminders and they show up in the Calendars 5 
app as well.
Here is the link to the info about the app:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/calendars-5-smart-calendar/id697927927?mt=8

Sherrie Gosling

From: Alex Hall<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please

I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the 
event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :) As 
to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify far 
more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other Friday or 
Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins when creating 
events, as you said, and its different interface and ability to combine 
calendar events and reminders in one place is helpful. I just don't find it to 
offer anything I can't already do that I need - I prefer keeping my reminders 
and calendars separate, and entering events is slower but doable. I'm not 
saying one is better than the other, but if the OP spends more time with the 
native app, he might find he can save $5.
On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:rich...@turner42.com>> wrote:

I have to admit, I have not used the native calendar app in a long time,
I just went into it.
First, double tap on the day of the event you want to check.
You will get a list of your appointments from that day forward.
Touch the event you want more details on or want to edit.
Flick up or down until it says details and double tap.
I now have a screen with just that event, with an edit button in the upper 
right and a delete event button at the bottom of the screen just above the home 
button.
It actually works quite well.

I still prefer the ease of entering events in Fantastical 2 and in particular, 
the ease of setting up repeating events on say, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, etc.
Once you get the hang of the phrasing, you can do those kinds of events in one 
string in Fantastical 2.
But, for straight forward calendaring, I will say the native app seems to be 
just fine.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please

For the record, I've never had trouble with the native app. I got Fantastical 
while it was on sale a couple months back, but I never use it. I don't

Re: Help with native Calendar app please

[David Chittenden]

There is a list view button at the top of every calendar standard view screen. 
SELECTING the list view button has a different effect depending on which 
calendar view screen one is in. For instance, when in the month view, 
activating list view makes month view work like the older month view with the 
date and number of appointments announced, and the current date selected list 
of appointments at the bottom of the display. Whilst in this view, 
double-tapping on the appointment opens the appointment screen. Double-tapping 
on a day selects the day and brings that day's appointments up at the bottom of 
the screen. When list view is not selected in month view, double-tapping on a 
date brings up day/week view. In this view, all seven days of the current week 
are displayed at the top of the display, and the current selected day is 
displayed hour by hour on the screen. I do not remember what selecting list 
view does in this screen. If list view is selected, it anchors to the screen 
that it was selected on, and causes appropriate changes to other views. 
Deselecting list view switches calendar to standard. List view can then be 
selected in the current view screen to activate different factors. One of the 
standard view screens will place the complete list of appointments on the 
display. I do not remember which view screen one must be in for this particular 
view effect as I do not use it. I encourage people to experiment and find the 
view they prefer. The calendar is very powerful.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Dec 2014, at 08:12, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can you expand upon this, please? Thanks.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>  
> It depends on which calendar screen you are in when you select list view.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 6 Dec 2014, at 03:09, Sherrie  wrote:
> 
> I think the difference in the way the list is shown is the important thing. I 
> am still using IOS 7, by the way and the list showed up with all the dates 
> and the no event, 1 event, etc. after each date with no details except at the 
> bottom. 
> I wanted the list shown the previous way which was just a list with only the 
> dates that had appointments with each appointment listed right after the 
> date.  But the tricky part is that I can’t remember exactly how I got it into 
> this format. Three times it has reverted back to the first, useless list and 
> I spent a good chunk of time trying every combination of VO gestures until I 
> eventually got the streamlined useful list.  The three times were months 
> apart so I can’t remember exactly what worked to switch it to the better list 
> even though the last time I was trying to pay attention so I could put it in 
> my notes. It seems that maybe the gesture was something at the bottom of the 
> screen but I am not going to take a chance on replicating it until I have to 
> as it was very frustrating.
> The “good” list also starts with dates from the past but tapping the “Today” 
> button at the lower left and then the middle of the screen puts me in the 
> right place.
>  
> Hopefully, the “good” list is the default in IOS 8 so that when I finally am 
> forced to upgrade that will be one benefit.
>  
> When I was having trouble getting to the list I preferred I downloaded an app 
> called Calendars 5 which does give a concise list of appointments and also 
> includes the reminders in the same list.   I really like it but I downloaded 
> it for free from Apps Gone Free and I think it is $6.99 now.  It coordinates 
> the calendar app and the reminders app into one list.  This also allows you 
> to use Siri to enter calendar events and Reminders and they show up in the 
> Calendars 5 app as well.
> Here is the link to the info about the app:
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/calendars-5-smart-calendar/id697927927?mt=8
>  
> Sherrie Gosling
>  
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help with native Calendar app please
>  
> I never even have to flick up or down to find details, I just double tap the 
> event and it opens. I'm not sure why you have to, but at least it works. :) 
> As to repeating events, the update to the calendar in iOS8 lets you specify 
> far more detailed repeat intervals than ever before, such as every other 
> Friday or Monday and Thursday of every two weeks. Fantastical still wins when 
> creating e